WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.259 Welcome to Everyone Deserves Sunshine. I'm Diana. 00:00:02.540 --> 00:00:04.919 And I'm Anusha. We're the girls in the crease. 00:00:05.059 --> 00:00:08.460 Just two friends using a podcast to cope with 00:00:08.460 --> 00:00:11.439 our very, very big feelings about heated rivalry. 00:00:11.779 --> 00:00:14.539 Big feelings. All right, Anusha, should we drop 00:00:14.539 --> 00:00:17.699 the puck? Great hockey analogy, Diana. Thank 00:00:17.699 --> 00:00:20.940 you. This is episode one, Why We're Obsessed. 00:00:21.719 --> 00:00:24.719 I am so excited to be doing this with you. Me 00:00:24.719 --> 00:00:28.050 too. I'm really excited. But I'm also... oddly 00:00:28.050 --> 00:00:31.410 nervous because I feel like you're watching me 00:00:31.410 --> 00:00:34.590 stuff myself into a bathing suit and I haven't 00:00:34.590 --> 00:00:37.210 shaved my legs or something. That's a weird analogy. 00:00:37.549 --> 00:00:41.189 It would be weird for anyone but you. I'm gonna 00:00:41.189 --> 00:00:45.130 take that with love and not like you've literally 00:00:45.130 --> 00:00:49.619 seen me do that. But you know why I feel that 00:00:49.619 --> 00:00:52.880 way? Because I want to give the material, Heated 00:00:52.880 --> 00:00:55.179 Rivalry, the Game Changers universe, it's dear 00:00:55.179 --> 00:00:58.640 to so many people. I just want to give it all 00:00:58.640 --> 00:01:02.219 the fun and sensitivity that it deserves. I get 00:01:02.219 --> 00:01:04.579 that. I get that. You get that? Yeah. You get 00:01:04.579 --> 00:01:07.219 suffering from a crisis of confidence, Diana? 00:01:07.760 --> 00:01:10.560 No, I don't think I've ever suffered from a crisis 00:01:10.560 --> 00:01:12.540 of confidence, but I can understand what other 00:01:12.540 --> 00:01:16.480 people do. So much empathy. And I totally know 00:01:16.480 --> 00:01:19.939 that your confidence is like one of your hallmarks 00:01:19.939 --> 00:01:27.099 that I love and kind of envy 10 % snark. So quickie 00:01:27.099 --> 00:01:29.519 bio on you for all the people listening. All 00:01:29.519 --> 00:01:31.980 of them. All five of them. Who don't know you 00:01:31.980 --> 00:01:34.439 at all. The friends we made listen to our podcast. 00:01:34.620 --> 00:01:37.219 Yes. Yes. All right. Well, for all of you who 00:01:37.219 --> 00:01:41.250 don't know me. I, well, honestly, I don't know 00:01:41.250 --> 00:01:44.930 who I am right now because my brain has officially 00:01:44.930 --> 00:01:49.329 left my body and has positioned itself inside 00:01:49.329 --> 00:01:53.409 the cottage. Inside the cottage where Shane and 00:01:53.409 --> 00:01:56.430 Elia are living together. Correct. But not like 00:01:56.430 --> 00:01:58.870 in a creepy way. I'm just there. I'm just there. 00:01:59.010 --> 00:02:01.549 There's no way that's creepy. No. Not at all. 00:02:01.930 --> 00:02:05.659 You're just there like a fly on the wall. To 00:02:05.659 --> 00:02:07.719 be fair, they've invited us. They've invited 00:02:07.719 --> 00:02:11.680 us. Oh, I'm invited. You're invited, too. So 00:02:11.680 --> 00:02:14.319 that's where you're existing in some sort of 00:02:14.319 --> 00:02:18.479 metaphysical plane in the real world. Well, if 00:02:18.479 --> 00:02:24.180 I must. I am in the real world. I am a mom of 00:02:24.180 --> 00:02:27.379 two. I am a former high school English teacher. 00:02:27.560 --> 00:02:29.860 I love English teachers. They're my favorite. 00:02:30.240 --> 00:02:32.180 Thank you. You're not just saying that, right? 00:02:32.360 --> 00:02:34.479 No. They actually are my favorite. I love them. 00:02:34.800 --> 00:02:40.439 And fun fact, my first language is Russian. What? 00:02:40.879 --> 00:02:44.000 Yeah. Oh. I didn't know that. No, I did. I knew 00:02:44.000 --> 00:02:46.319 that very well. But that must have been like 00:02:46.319 --> 00:02:48.759 an immediate connection, right? It was. It was 00:02:48.759 --> 00:02:52.180 really awesome. Was it amazing to like see Russian 00:02:52.180 --> 00:02:54.419 spoken? We'll get into it in another episode. 00:02:54.419 --> 00:02:56.819 We will. And it really was amazing. Truly. It 00:02:56.819 --> 00:02:58.900 was probably really important. Yeah. I think 00:02:58.900 --> 00:03:01.259 I may have mentioned this to you when I told 00:03:01.259 --> 00:03:03.400 you to watch this show initially. You did. You 00:03:03.400 --> 00:03:05.659 did mention that. But let's move on. You know, 00:03:05.680 --> 00:03:07.520 we don't want to get too much into that because 00:03:07.520 --> 00:03:09.139 we're going to talk about it a little later. 00:03:09.580 --> 00:03:12.379 Instead of focusing on me so much. Why don't 00:03:12.379 --> 00:03:15.000 we talk about you a little? Who are you? Never 00:03:15.000 --> 00:03:17.900 heard you say that to me before. Wait, which 00:03:17.900 --> 00:03:19.900 part? That I don't want to focus on me? Yeah, 00:03:19.979 --> 00:03:23.139 that part. Well, listen, I'm in a very giving 00:03:23.139 --> 00:03:25.939 mood because I'm so happy that we're doing this 00:03:25.939 --> 00:03:28.780 together. So why don't you tell the five people 00:03:28.780 --> 00:03:31.599 who are listening to us today who you are and 00:03:31.599 --> 00:03:35.840 what you're about? And so I'm also a mom. I'm 00:03:35.840 --> 00:03:39.240 a doctor. Very serious. Very serious. Oh, wait. 00:03:39.240 --> 00:03:40.699 Doctors are my favorite. I think I'm supposed 00:03:40.699 --> 00:03:43.240 to say that. Yeah. Because I said. Because you 00:03:43.240 --> 00:03:45.439 said the teaching thing. Yeah. But I gave you 00:03:45.439 --> 00:03:47.639 a heart and you gave me like a sarcastic face. 00:03:47.699 --> 00:03:49.780 That's okay. I'll take it. Girl, that's who I 00:03:49.780 --> 00:03:52.120 am. You should know that by now. And I'm also 00:03:52.120 --> 00:03:56.520 a kind of emotional chameleon. What does that 00:03:56.520 --> 00:03:59.120 mean? I was hoping you would ask because, of 00:03:59.120 --> 00:04:01.219 course, that's why I said it like that. What 00:04:01.219 --> 00:04:05.419 does that mean? I just think I. I'm really open 00:04:05.419 --> 00:04:08.139 and warm and fuzzy like right away when you meet 00:04:08.139 --> 00:04:11.020 me. But I have a really hard time being honest 00:04:11.020 --> 00:04:14.180 with deep thoughts and feelings. A little Shane, 00:04:14.340 --> 00:04:17.740 a little Ilya combo. Okay. I get that. Yeah. 00:04:17.839 --> 00:04:19.439 I understand that. Thank you for explaining that. 00:04:19.860 --> 00:04:22.139 Is that like something you're familiar with, 00:04:22.199 --> 00:04:28.699 Diana? Being an emotional chameleon? No. So maybe 00:04:28.699 --> 00:04:30.500 you'll get to know me a little better doing this 00:04:30.500 --> 00:04:32.879 podcast. I hope so. We will see. We will see. 00:04:33.389 --> 00:04:36.529 We will see. Why are we doing this podcast? That's 00:04:36.529 --> 00:04:39.509 a great question. I think mostly because the 00:04:39.509 --> 00:04:42.410 world is a dumpster fire. Putting it mildly. 00:04:42.430 --> 00:04:45.329 Putting it mildly. Everything seems really daunting. 00:04:45.629 --> 00:04:48.689 Everything sucks. Everything sucks. And we are 00:04:48.689 --> 00:04:51.430 in a place where I just want to find some joy 00:04:51.430 --> 00:04:55.250 and hold on to that joy for as much and for as 00:04:55.250 --> 00:04:58.029 long as I can. That is a really, really good 00:04:58.029 --> 00:05:01.899 answer. I'm 100 % with you on that. And I also 00:05:01.899 --> 00:05:04.160 just feel like when I love something this much, 00:05:04.240 --> 00:05:07.060 I just want to deep dive into all the creases. 00:05:07.500 --> 00:05:09.819 The creases. Yes, because we're the girls in 00:05:09.819 --> 00:05:12.579 the crease. Correct. All the creases, the hockey 00:05:12.579 --> 00:05:16.379 creases, the sociological creases, the psychological 00:05:16.379 --> 00:05:20.060 creases, the butt creases. All the creases. All 00:05:20.060 --> 00:05:23.620 the creases. Oh, man. I'm excited. Yeah. Dive 00:05:23.620 --> 00:05:26.939 into the crease. Let's do it. Let's do it. So 00:05:26.939 --> 00:05:29.680 now that we've covered the basics of who we are 00:05:29.680 --> 00:05:33.120 and why we're here, I want to talk about our 00:05:33.120 --> 00:05:38.100 obsessions. And for me, this is one of the first, 00:05:38.139 --> 00:05:39.980 well, I feel like this is the second time I've 00:05:39.980 --> 00:05:46.540 been truly, deeply in love with a TV show. Really? 00:05:46.600 --> 00:05:49.360 Yeah. Second time. Second time. Yeah. Honestly, 00:05:49.500 --> 00:05:51.399 if I really have to think about it, the second 00:05:51.399 --> 00:05:54.959 time where I'm devoting every minute of my space 00:05:54.959 --> 00:05:58.459 in my brain. to a show. So what was the first 00:05:58.459 --> 00:06:02.500 time? Oh my God. Okay. I was, I think 16 or 17 00:06:02.500 --> 00:06:05.259 and it was Buffy the Vampire Slayer. I had the 00:06:05.259 --> 00:06:08.139 books. I had, well, I didn't have posters back 00:06:08.139 --> 00:06:10.079 then, but I would take it and I would rip the 00:06:10.079 --> 00:06:12.120 Teen Beat magazine pictures and I would put them 00:06:12.120 --> 00:06:16.540 on my wall. I would be in AOL chat rooms. reading 00:06:16.540 --> 00:06:19.300 and writing fan fiction for Buffy the Vampire 00:06:19.300 --> 00:06:22.199 Slayer. Wow. In a chat room. In an AOL chat room 00:06:22.199 --> 00:06:23.800 with like one of those CDs where you get like 00:06:23.800 --> 00:06:26.660 a thousand hours free. That's vintage. I'm aging 00:06:26.660 --> 00:06:29.639 myself so much right now. Yeah. Because it's 00:06:29.639 --> 00:06:32.420 been a minute since you were this in love. It's 00:06:32.420 --> 00:06:35.579 true, but it's true. And that's why I'm so amazed 00:06:35.579 --> 00:06:37.480 by what the show has done, because I haven't 00:06:37.480 --> 00:06:39.660 felt this way since probably I was a teenager. 00:06:39.959 --> 00:06:44.970 It's so interesting that you have only had two 00:06:44.970 --> 00:06:48.870 sort of obsessions with fandom because I get 00:06:48.870 --> 00:06:53.110 obsessed very easily. And this is a problem for 00:06:53.110 --> 00:06:55.410 my time management skills. And you're going to 00:06:55.410 --> 00:06:58.209 laugh because my first one was Jane Austen. Why 00:06:58.209 --> 00:07:00.550 would I laugh? I don't know, Diane. Why would 00:07:00.550 --> 00:07:03.389 you make fun of my nerdiness? No, never. You 00:07:03.389 --> 00:07:07.149 mean you didn't go around Bath to get the Jane 00:07:07.149 --> 00:07:09.930 Austen tour of like all the hat stores? Did you 00:07:09.930 --> 00:07:11.430 actually do that? Oh my gosh. Did I do that? 00:07:11.449 --> 00:07:14.899 Yeah. I'm someone who just really enjoys losing 00:07:14.899 --> 00:07:17.860 myself in things. Well, now you have a partner 00:07:17.860 --> 00:07:20.279 in me, at least with this, not Jane Austen. So 00:07:20.279 --> 00:07:23.220 how did you how did you even start with heated 00:07:23.220 --> 00:07:26.060 rivalry then? Yeah, that's a great question, 00:07:26.139 --> 00:07:31.120 because imagine I wake up at night because I 00:07:31.120 --> 00:07:34.339 have this terrible insomnia. Another love of 00:07:34.339 --> 00:07:38.620 mine is true crime. Not for me. Not for you? 00:07:38.759 --> 00:07:41.379 Okay, so this is not that kind of podcast. No, 00:07:41.379 --> 00:07:43.360 it's not. Okay, sorry. We're going to talk about 00:07:43.360 --> 00:07:46.740 sex, but not true crime. Let me get back to it. 00:07:46.899 --> 00:07:49.720 Let me get back to Shade and Ilya and explain 00:07:49.720 --> 00:07:55.240 to you how the... Murder shows to heated rivalry. 00:07:55.939 --> 00:07:58.199 Pipeline works. Pipeline. Okay. Yeah. Tell me, 00:07:58.240 --> 00:08:01.959 please. So what happens is it's midnight and 00:08:01.959 --> 00:08:06.660 you're watching a show called Who the Bleep Did 00:08:06.660 --> 00:08:09.879 I Marry? And this is really how this happened. 00:08:10.180 --> 00:08:11.180 I don't think we have to bleep because we are 00:08:11.180 --> 00:08:12.879 going to have explicit content. No, that's the 00:08:12.879 --> 00:08:17.180 title of the show. Oh. The title of the show 00:08:17.180 --> 00:08:20.339 is Who the Bleep Did I Marry? Did I marry? Oh. 00:08:21.139 --> 00:08:25.300 Spoiler alert. Most of these people, you know 00:08:25.300 --> 00:08:28.660 exactly the minute they come on, you're like, 00:08:28.720 --> 00:08:32.279 that person is going to be bad news. Like red 00:08:32.279 --> 00:08:35.100 flags everywhere. Red flags only. Only red flags. 00:08:35.179 --> 00:08:36.840 You know who didn't have red flags? I'm sorry. 00:08:36.960 --> 00:08:39.940 I can't. I can't. Ilya. Oh, my God. He had no 00:08:39.940 --> 00:08:43.139 red flags. It was all green flags. All the green 00:08:43.139 --> 00:08:44.519 flags. He's such a speaker. Okay. All right. 00:08:44.519 --> 00:08:49.019 Sorry. Sorry. Okay. So. I was watching that and 00:08:49.019 --> 00:08:53.059 I don't know what kind of algorithm HBO has because 00:08:53.059 --> 00:08:56.200 I think it recommends heated rivalry to anybody. 00:08:56.299 --> 00:08:59.279 And it was like after I finished this insane 00:08:59.279 --> 00:09:03.700 episode of that show, it said, you may like heated 00:09:03.700 --> 00:09:07.820 rivalry. So I really went in watching this show 00:09:07.820 --> 00:09:12.379 with no background. I had completely unknown. 00:09:13.419 --> 00:09:16.200 That's truly not how I watch TV shows. I love 00:09:16.200 --> 00:09:20.500 spoilers. I read everything beforehand. I get 00:09:20.500 --> 00:09:23.200 into it even before the show starts. But this 00:09:23.200 --> 00:09:26.399 one was so different. It was just really organic. 00:09:26.580 --> 00:09:29.620 And I didn't know what it was I'm watching. And 00:09:29.620 --> 00:09:31.799 that was actually one of the things that I really 00:09:31.799 --> 00:09:34.820 enjoyed. I don't think that happens anymore in 00:09:34.820 --> 00:09:37.879 this era of social media. You know everything 00:09:37.879 --> 00:09:41.090 that's going to happen. discovered it. It almost 00:09:41.090 --> 00:09:43.830 felt like a discovery. And I think you may have 00:09:43.830 --> 00:09:49.409 experienced my, you know, discovery process, 00:09:49.610 --> 00:09:55.009 the pheromones that the discovery like provided 00:09:55.009 --> 00:09:58.730 me. Yeah. Yeah. I think we met like maybe two 00:09:58.730 --> 00:10:00.950 days later. I saw you a couple of days after 00:10:00.950 --> 00:10:03.730 you started watching this show that I hadn't, 00:10:03.730 --> 00:10:06.110 I've heard of it, but I hadn't seen. And I, you 00:10:06.110 --> 00:10:08.970 know, I didn't know anything about it. And we 00:10:08.970 --> 00:10:11.370 were we went out to dinner with our friends. 00:10:11.769 --> 00:10:15.029 And I have never seen anything like this in my 00:10:15.029 --> 00:10:20.110 life because you were so horny the entire night. 00:10:20.450 --> 00:10:23.250 And she's going to say she she might deny this 00:10:23.250 --> 00:10:25.710 or she might not. I'm not denying this. She was 00:10:25.710 --> 00:10:30.029 trying to fuck me all night. I'm sorry. All right. 00:10:30.049 --> 00:10:32.909 Begs me, begs me to speak to her in Russian. 00:10:33.169 --> 00:10:36.700 Asks me to wear a cross. You are Jewish, though. 00:10:36.919 --> 00:10:40.539 I am. OK, so here's the thing. I'm not going 00:10:40.539 --> 00:10:44.080 to deny that the show is extremely beautiful. 00:10:44.340 --> 00:10:46.899 To the point where you're like trying to, you 00:10:46.899 --> 00:10:49.480 know. She was there with her husband, by the 00:10:49.480 --> 00:10:51.240 way. I just want to say that. Hot calling the 00:10:51.240 --> 00:10:53.320 kettle black because we'll talk about what happened 00:10:53.320 --> 00:10:56.539 to you maybe like a few days after you watched 00:10:56.539 --> 00:11:00.139 the show. I wasn't as bad as you, but OK. Because 00:11:00.139 --> 00:11:04.700 I was alone. I was alone in my hormonal days. 00:11:05.340 --> 00:11:08.559 But it wasn't even that. I think it triggered 00:11:08.559 --> 00:11:12.899 so many emotions. Right, right. In me, including 00:11:12.899 --> 00:11:17.460 horniness. A lot of it. And I just, I had no 00:11:17.460 --> 00:11:20.200 one to talk to about it. Right, right. And that's 00:11:20.200 --> 00:11:22.259 tough, actually. Now that I know, that's really 00:11:22.259 --> 00:11:26.159 tough. Exactly. And none of you guys had heard 00:11:26.159 --> 00:11:29.080 about the show. And I was the only one at that 00:11:29.080 --> 00:11:31.559 point in our friend group who had watched this 00:11:31.559 --> 00:11:34.389 show. Right. And you guys thought I was... Absolutely 00:11:34.389 --> 00:11:36.190 insane. We thought you were insane. Because I 00:11:36.190 --> 00:11:38.269 was crawling out of my skin. You were crawling 00:11:38.269 --> 00:11:41.830 out. I saw that. It was insane. And you were 00:11:41.830 --> 00:11:44.129 screaming at us the whole night. It's the themes. 00:11:44.330 --> 00:11:46.370 It's the themes. And I'm like, what themes would 00:11:46.370 --> 00:11:49.850 make you this horny? You did say I did not sell 00:11:49.850 --> 00:11:53.070 the show. But that's because I think this kind 00:11:53.070 --> 00:11:58.259 of show just needs. time to like really get into 00:11:58.259 --> 00:12:00.299 you didn't need time you got into it right away 00:12:00.299 --> 00:12:02.879 you know what i did get into get into it right 00:12:02.879 --> 00:12:05.539 away yeah i needed time you needed time i know 00:12:05.539 --> 00:12:08.940 it's so weird yeah i don't you know well you 00:12:08.940 --> 00:12:11.299 know what i feel like it's your fault honestly 00:12:11.299 --> 00:12:13.899 at the end of the day the reason i needed time 00:12:13.899 --> 00:12:16.980 is because you made it sound like this was a 00:12:16.980 --> 00:12:22.850 show of just two random guys fucking And, like, 00:12:22.929 --> 00:12:26.389 cool. You know, I want to see that. I did say 00:12:26.389 --> 00:12:28.429 there were themes. Okay, but the way you said 00:12:28.429 --> 00:12:32.409 there were themes, it made it sound sarcastic, 00:12:32.490 --> 00:12:34.669 right? Like, because you were, again, audience. 00:12:34.809 --> 00:12:36.809 She was trying to have sex with me all night. 00:12:36.929 --> 00:12:39.669 And I said to your husband, take her home right 00:12:39.669 --> 00:12:42.710 now. And give her what she needs. And consent 00:12:42.710 --> 00:12:46.110 to what she needs. Yeah. And he was quite happy 00:12:46.110 --> 00:12:49.350 with that. I'm sure. But you, it took you time. 00:12:49.450 --> 00:12:52.620 You were playing hard to get. with Ilya and Shane. 00:12:52.919 --> 00:12:55.200 Oh, God. All right. So what happened with you? 00:12:55.299 --> 00:12:58.120 I finally decided to watch it. I want to say 00:12:58.120 --> 00:12:59.960 it was right before Christmas when I watched 00:12:59.960 --> 00:13:01.960 the first episode. There was nothing. And it 00:13:01.960 --> 00:13:03.519 was late at night. I'm like, you know what? I'll 00:13:03.519 --> 00:13:05.080 give this show a chance, whatever. So I'm in 00:13:05.080 --> 00:13:07.519 bed watching it on my phone and I'm like, okay, 00:13:07.539 --> 00:13:11.659 like, whatever. Guys doing it, like, hot, but 00:13:11.659 --> 00:13:15.960 no story, no themes. So you didn't pick up on 00:13:15.960 --> 00:13:20.059 the subtleties. I didn't. It's okay. You didn't 00:13:20.059 --> 00:13:22.639 read Jane Austen. I didn't. That's probably my 00:13:22.639 --> 00:13:24.639 problem. That's probably it. Yeah. Perhaps if 00:13:24.639 --> 00:13:28.440 I had read Jane Austen, I would immediately understood 00:13:28.440 --> 00:13:32.340 the themes of episode one. But no, you know what? 00:13:32.419 --> 00:13:34.440 It is embarrassing. I am currently embarrassed 00:13:34.440 --> 00:13:36.879 because I am very obsessed. I did ask you for 00:13:36.879 --> 00:13:39.580 an apology. I did. And I did apologize. I did. 00:13:39.659 --> 00:13:42.220 I did. I apologized a lot, honestly. Personally 00:13:42.220 --> 00:13:44.820 to me. Personally to you. And to Shane. And to 00:13:44.820 --> 00:13:47.379 Ilya. And to Ilya and to Shane and to Kip and 00:13:47.379 --> 00:13:50.620 Scott. To all of them. I did. I owe them a huge 00:13:50.620 --> 00:13:52.899 apology. So when did you like really get into 00:13:52.899 --> 00:13:54.799 the show? So I watched the first episode, wasn't 00:13:54.799 --> 00:13:55.980 really into it. I was like, I don't think I want 00:13:55.980 --> 00:13:58.539 to continue watching the show. And then one of 00:13:58.539 --> 00:14:01.100 my friends reached out. I'm sorry. Again, I'm 00:14:01.100 --> 00:14:04.779 sorry. Not me. Not her. Not your fellow podcaster. 00:14:04.779 --> 00:14:07.299 No, not her. And she said, listen. Not your girl 00:14:07.299 --> 00:14:09.480 in the crease. Not the girl in the crease. Someone 00:14:09.480 --> 00:14:12.340 else. Someone else. She will never let this go, 00:14:12.460 --> 00:14:14.980 by the way. Yeah. As someone whose name also 00:14:14.980 --> 00:14:17.899 starts with an A. Yes. I actually thought you 00:14:17.899 --> 00:14:21.600 maybe misstated. Like misspelled your name when 00:14:21.600 --> 00:14:23.460 I said. Or like misstated. Like you were not 00:14:23.460 --> 00:14:25.759 sure. I was like, she must mean me. No, I did 00:14:25.759 --> 00:14:27.919 not mean you. Yeah. And someone else. Someone 00:14:27.919 --> 00:14:30.360 else. Just let it go. Okay. I don't think so. 00:14:30.419 --> 00:14:33.220 Someone else reached out to me and said, have 00:14:33.220 --> 00:14:36.039 you watched Heated Rivalry? And I said, no, you 00:14:36.039 --> 00:14:38.320 know, I tried and I really wasn't into it. And 00:14:38.320 --> 00:14:41.139 she said, I know, but sometimes like just trust 00:14:41.139 --> 00:14:44.159 me, give it. two more episodes. Episode three 00:14:44.159 --> 00:14:46.019 will like completely switch on you and you're 00:14:46.019 --> 00:14:48.679 going to love it. And I'm like, okay, fine. I 00:14:48.679 --> 00:14:51.919 had no other TV shows to watch. So I said, I 00:14:51.919 --> 00:14:55.460 will begrudgingly watch episode two just to get 00:14:55.460 --> 00:14:58.559 to episode three, which is when I was promised 00:14:58.559 --> 00:15:01.299 it was going to get good. Scotty and Kip. I know. 00:15:01.340 --> 00:15:02.960 That was a good story. So I watched episode two 00:15:02.960 --> 00:15:04.980 and I liked it. I can't say I was like blown 00:15:04.980 --> 00:15:07.539 away, but I liked it. And then I watched episode 00:15:07.539 --> 00:15:10.039 three and then within the first 10 minutes, I 00:15:10.039 --> 00:15:12.840 was like, oh my gosh. Who is this gorgeous man? 00:15:13.200 --> 00:15:16.720 Oh. Scott Hunter. So not the themes, actually. 00:15:17.620 --> 00:15:20.080 No, definitely not the themes. But I'd never 00:15:20.080 --> 00:15:23.279 pretended like you to have themes. I just saw 00:15:23.279 --> 00:15:26.419 a beautiful, beautiful man. And I said, you know 00:15:26.419 --> 00:15:29.799 what? This may actually be the show for me. And 00:15:29.799 --> 00:15:32.259 so I watched episode three that night and four. 00:15:32.779 --> 00:15:38.090 And episode four, dysregulated. my system. In 00:15:38.090 --> 00:15:41.470 the best way. In the best way. And I was just 00:15:41.470 --> 00:15:44.389 done. I was done. I was done. And then I had 00:15:44.389 --> 00:15:45.789 to go to sleep because it was probably like 3 00:15:45.789 --> 00:15:48.169 a .m. Woke up the next morning because we're 00:15:48.169 --> 00:15:51.850 all still home. It's winter break. And I didn't 00:15:51.850 --> 00:15:53.909 even get out of bed. I just turned the TV back 00:15:53.909 --> 00:15:56.929 on and watched the last two episodes and I was 00:15:56.929 --> 00:15:59.669 hooked. Do you know I've only watched this show 00:15:59.669 --> 00:16:03.620 on my phone? Really? Yeah. It's like I'm in my 00:16:03.620 --> 00:16:06.559 little cocoon and I just watch it and I just 00:16:06.559 --> 00:16:09.279 enjoy it so much. It's my cottage. It's your 00:16:09.279 --> 00:16:11.759 cottage. It's my cottage under my covers. Do 00:16:11.759 --> 00:16:13.320 you think you would like it better if you watched 00:16:13.320 --> 00:16:15.700 it on the TV? No, there's something like so intimate 00:16:15.700 --> 00:16:18.559 about it. I mean, also, I have two really young 00:16:18.559 --> 00:16:20.600 kids who don't leave me alone. All right. So 00:16:20.600 --> 00:16:24.799 it took you till... Episode three to like. Embarrassingly, 00:16:24.799 --> 00:16:27.340 yes. I'm not going to begrudge you this. Okay. 00:16:27.419 --> 00:16:31.259 You know, because Scott and Kip are just. That 00:16:31.259 --> 00:16:34.179 was a really sweet story. I mean, Shane and Ilya 00:16:34.179 --> 00:16:37.440 are hot and the yearning is like out of control. 00:16:37.639 --> 00:16:40.720 Yeah. Yeah. But there's something really, I think, 00:16:40.720 --> 00:16:44.139 like bittersweet and realistic about Scott and 00:16:44.139 --> 00:16:46.899 Kip's relationship. Right. And the love bombing. 00:16:47.059 --> 00:16:54.679 I know. You know. But. Unlike you, I lost my 00:16:54.679 --> 00:16:58.000 heart to the show, episode one. Tell me exactly 00:16:58.000 --> 00:17:00.480 what happens in that scene that took your heart. 00:17:00.919 --> 00:17:06.960 So Ilya, you know, is in the elevator. He's like 00:17:06.960 --> 00:17:10.220 swallowing the lump in his throat because he 00:17:10.220 --> 00:17:14.220 sees Shane's mom. He goes up. He knocks. Shane 00:17:14.220 --> 00:17:22.970 opens. And he pushes him against the wall. With 00:17:22.970 --> 00:17:27.230 intensity. Wait. Consensual intensity. Shane 00:17:27.230 --> 00:17:29.670 goes, should we talk? Yes. And Shane goes, should 00:17:29.670 --> 00:17:34.109 we talk? And he goes, no. No. Niet. Niet. But 00:17:34.109 --> 00:17:36.630 he doesn't say niet. He just does it with his 00:17:36.630 --> 00:17:39.269 eyes. Yeah, he just does it with his eyes. And 00:17:39.269 --> 00:17:43.569 he pushes him. And they are like, the kiss is 00:17:43.569 --> 00:17:46.329 so hot. I mean, it's like. Do you not want to 00:17:46.329 --> 00:17:48.269 be kissed like that? I have rewatched that kiss 00:17:48.269 --> 00:17:50.809 so many times. And I go back and think to myself, 00:17:50.950 --> 00:17:53.069 how did I not see that the first time around? 00:17:53.230 --> 00:17:56.089 People who kiss like that, I'm like, you guys 00:17:56.089 --> 00:17:59.809 are in major trouble because people don't kiss 00:17:59.809 --> 00:18:01.549 their situations just like that. Well, Shane 00:18:01.549 --> 00:18:04.490 did say, like, this isn't a good idea. This is 00:18:04.490 --> 00:18:09.009 not a good idea. But, and so, you know, there's 00:18:09.009 --> 00:18:12.230 this, like, sweet banter. You know, it's so... 00:18:12.779 --> 00:18:16.279 They're nervous. It's it's hot. But they're like 00:18:16.279 --> 00:18:19.359 still like themselves kind of ribbing on each 00:18:19.359 --> 00:18:25.500 other. And, you know, Shane goes down to give 00:18:25.500 --> 00:18:31.640 Ilya a little love. A blowjob. A blowjob. And 00:18:31.640 --> 00:18:34.980 Ilya, I mean, just pulls him up. And you could 00:18:34.980 --> 00:18:37.380 see Shane's posture change because this is the 00:18:37.380 --> 00:18:39.779 first time he's ever done anything, I think, 00:18:39.799 --> 00:18:42.299 sexual with anyone. Or it's implied at least. 00:18:42.299 --> 00:18:43.480 Definitely not with a man. Definitely not with 00:18:43.480 --> 00:18:47.960 a man. Not with a guy. And Shane's shoulders 00:18:47.960 --> 00:18:51.599 stoop and he goes, did I do, did I, was it not 00:18:51.599 --> 00:18:56.079 good? And Ilya takes his thumb and like rubs 00:18:56.079 --> 00:19:00.099 it across his cheekbone to give him physical 00:19:00.099 --> 00:19:04.059 reassurance. I was gone. You were a goner. I 00:19:04.059 --> 00:19:06.039 was gone. I knew they were going to be gone for 00:19:06.039 --> 00:19:06.779 each other. And this is why you tried to fuck 00:19:06.779 --> 00:19:10.599 me later. And it was so sweet and tender. And 00:19:10.599 --> 00:19:14.400 I'm like, you boys, this is a bad idea and major 00:19:14.400 --> 00:19:18.940 trouble. I knew all of the strings. All the strings 00:19:18.940 --> 00:19:21.539 are in all the creases. That's a little gross. 00:19:21.680 --> 00:19:25.400 I don't know. Whatever. But it was absolutely 00:19:25.400 --> 00:19:28.400 nearly going to be an incredibly emotional affair. 00:19:28.640 --> 00:19:31.299 See, I knew from the beginning. You did. It's 00:19:31.299 --> 00:19:32.940 because of the Jane Austen. It is. I'm positive. 00:19:33.099 --> 00:19:35.599 It is. Maybe because I had a good English teacher. 00:19:35.980 --> 00:19:38.259 Perhaps. Yeah. Yeah. Good thing I wasn't your 00:19:38.259 --> 00:19:40.599 English teacher. That did sound kind of rude. 00:19:41.319 --> 00:19:43.619 Well, you know, I'm used to it from you. You 00:19:43.619 --> 00:19:45.940 are older than me. I am. You could have been 00:19:45.940 --> 00:19:49.220 my English teacher. Could have. I'm only six 00:19:49.220 --> 00:19:50.839 months older than she is, by the way. Just I 00:19:50.839 --> 00:19:52.000 want everybody to know that. I know. I know. 00:19:52.019 --> 00:19:54.180 I was waiting for that to come. But, you know, 00:19:54.220 --> 00:19:57.589 you did turn 40. I did. I did. That's true. That's 00:19:57.589 --> 00:20:00.630 accurate. Listen, that scene, when I rewatch 00:20:00.630 --> 00:20:04.089 it over and over and over and over again, I actually 00:20:04.089 --> 00:20:06.950 am now embarrassed by how many times. I'm actually 00:20:06.950 --> 00:20:08.930 not embarrassed at all. Yeah. I'm embarrassed 00:20:08.930 --> 00:20:11.430 how blind I was. Yes. I'm not embarrassed at 00:20:11.430 --> 00:20:13.569 how many times I have watched it since. Yeah. 00:20:13.609 --> 00:20:16.470 But I am embarrassed that I said, nah, this isn't 00:20:16.470 --> 00:20:20.450 for me. I think if you watch it X number of times, 00:20:20.569 --> 00:20:23.589 you get to go to the cottage. Like, you get transported. 00:20:24.299 --> 00:20:26.700 Oh, so that's why I'm there, because I have met 00:20:26.700 --> 00:20:29.339 the criteria, the quota. Yeah, no, physically. 00:20:29.619 --> 00:20:32.500 You just, like, live there forever. It'll happen 00:20:32.500 --> 00:20:34.619 one day. I hope so. We'll have to, like, just 00:20:34.619 --> 00:20:36.079 stumble. Do you know that's, like, somebody's 00:20:36.079 --> 00:20:38.380 real house? Like, people live in that house. 00:20:38.440 --> 00:20:40.500 Mm -hmm. And they get to live in that house now 00:20:40.500 --> 00:20:44.759 still. Yeah, and people live in the other house, 00:20:44.819 --> 00:20:47.500 too. Sheen's, like, apartment, condo. Everybody, 00:20:47.500 --> 00:20:49.420 like, yes, everything. It's an actual... Mr. 00:20:49.599 --> 00:20:52.920 Real Estate. Yeah, it's an actual house, and 00:20:52.920 --> 00:20:56.299 it's in... I want to say it's not in Montreal. 00:20:56.480 --> 00:21:00.599 It's in Ottawa, maybe. Yeah, maybe. A family 00:21:00.599 --> 00:21:03.019 lives there. They use the same furniture. They 00:21:03.019 --> 00:21:04.819 actually use their—they didn't even change their, 00:21:04.859 --> 00:21:07.839 like, beds. I was like, damn. I know. I wouldn't 00:21:07.839 --> 00:21:11.299 change the sheets. Okay. So you're watching these 00:21:11.299 --> 00:21:14.599 two guys. Clearly, they're going to—it's going 00:21:14.599 --> 00:21:17.049 to end up. They're going to fall in love. They're 00:21:17.049 --> 00:21:19.049 going to fall in love. And I'm not saying it's 00:21:19.049 --> 00:21:21.009 going to be bad, but it's not good for them. 00:21:21.009 --> 00:21:23.809 Right. Like they're they're not in a very progressive 00:21:23.809 --> 00:21:26.269 sport. Right. So you're watching these two guys. 00:21:26.430 --> 00:21:28.450 They're going to fall in love. What does the 00:21:28.450 --> 00:21:31.230 story do to you? What like what emotions does 00:21:31.230 --> 00:21:33.869 it bring up for you at that moment? You know 00:21:33.869 --> 00:21:38.029 what it is? It's not just that it's a beautiful 00:21:38.029 --> 00:21:43.380 love story. And the yearning, you know, it's 00:21:43.380 --> 00:21:46.619 been going on for 10 years. It's all the other 00:21:46.619 --> 00:21:50.680 stuff, you know, it's what you said about who 00:21:50.680 --> 00:21:55.099 they are, you know, the layers, like so many 00:21:55.099 --> 00:21:59.640 layers, the themes, the creases to dive into, 00:21:59.920 --> 00:22:03.160 you know, you know, there's the immigrant layer. 00:22:04.079 --> 00:22:06.970 There's the, I can relate to that. Yeah. And 00:22:06.970 --> 00:22:09.829 we're going to have so many episodes. We have 00:22:09.829 --> 00:22:12.369 so many episodes where we dive into each one 00:22:12.369 --> 00:22:14.769 of these things. The immigrant layer, the like 00:22:14.769 --> 00:22:20.369 childhood trauma layer, the sports layer, the 00:22:20.369 --> 00:22:24.710 masculinity layer. Like they're just so there's 00:22:24.710 --> 00:22:29.690 so many factors external to this love affair. 00:22:29.930 --> 00:22:32.509 Right. Right. Yeah. And it draws you in. But 00:22:32.509 --> 00:22:37.220 when they're together, it's like. they exist 00:22:37.220 --> 00:22:43.579 in this bubble and that relationship is so it's 00:22:43.579 --> 00:22:46.519 not perfect right it's not perfect but it just 00:22:46.519 --> 00:22:50.180 there's so much mutual affection and respect 00:22:50.180 --> 00:22:53.920 you know and I think that whole combination of 00:22:53.920 --> 00:22:57.539 things really just like why are we doing this 00:22:57.539 --> 00:22:59.500 podcast why can't we stop thinking about the 00:22:59.500 --> 00:23:03.490 show I think it came at the perfect time right 00:23:03.490 --> 00:23:06.410 you had nothing to do I had nothing to do not 00:23:06.410 --> 00:23:08.509 really it was Christmas but it was just this 00:23:08.509 --> 00:23:12.130 moment in time where I was really trying to detach 00:23:12.130 --> 00:23:16.869 myself from the dumpster fire of the world like 00:23:16.869 --> 00:23:20.829 this like deep existential dread and this really 00:23:20.829 --> 00:23:27.319 sweet genuine authentically acted and made love 00:23:27.319 --> 00:23:30.759 story comes along and it's like not slamming 00:23:30.759 --> 00:23:34.480 something over your head. It's just, it lets 00:23:34.480 --> 00:23:41.279 it breathe. And that. Yeah. Like, or, or you 00:23:41.279 --> 00:23:44.859 just, it's just existing and it's showing you 00:23:44.859 --> 00:23:47.640 instead of telling you. Right. What it means 00:23:47.640 --> 00:23:50.099 to be a man. As an English teacher, when I tell 00:23:50.099 --> 00:23:53.279 my kids to write, I say show rather than tell. 00:23:53.339 --> 00:23:56.480 So why are you obsessed? You know, there are 00:23:56.480 --> 00:23:59.160 so many. I remember when I first finished watching 00:23:59.160 --> 00:24:01.579 it, I went on threads and I said, what is happening 00:24:01.579 --> 00:24:04.000 to me? I truly don't understand it. What are 00:24:04.000 --> 00:24:06.440 your theories? Right. And you found a whole bunch 00:24:06.440 --> 00:24:08.759 of other people. And I found a whole bunch of 00:24:08.759 --> 00:24:11.160 other people. Collective psychosis. Yeah. And 00:24:11.160 --> 00:24:13.940 I didn't I didn't understand it at first because 00:24:13.940 --> 00:24:16.769 it was immediate. Right. I didn't understand 00:24:16.769 --> 00:24:18.390 it at first, but of course, like I got the whole 00:24:18.390 --> 00:24:20.789 yearning and like love and like we shouldn't, 00:24:20.789 --> 00:24:22.549 but we should, you know, like that whole thing. 00:24:22.569 --> 00:24:24.410 That makes sense. You know, like that's hot. 00:24:25.309 --> 00:24:28.210 It's always been hot. But like I love the consent, 00:24:28.970 --> 00:24:31.730 you know, the consent wasn't like insane to me. 00:24:31.769 --> 00:24:35.710 It was so incredible to hear the way he got consent. 00:24:35.869 --> 00:24:37.890 It was just checking in all the time, like checking 00:24:37.890 --> 00:24:39.789 in. But that's not what did it for me. But it's 00:24:39.789 --> 00:24:42.130 just like a big part of it. But I think part 00:24:42.130 --> 00:24:45.990 of it that that keeps me in this loop forever. 00:24:45.839 --> 00:24:48.940 of being in the cottage is the fact that I don't 00:24:48.940 --> 00:24:53.380 remember feeling this way since like teenagehood. 00:24:53.400 --> 00:24:55.720 Honestly, when I was pining over Buffy the Vampire 00:24:55.720 --> 00:24:59.519 Slayer and Sarah Michelle Gellar and David Boreanaz 00:24:59.519 --> 00:25:02.140 and Spike, like, you know, she's with one and 00:25:02.140 --> 00:25:04.160 she's with the other. I just remember feeling 00:25:04.160 --> 00:25:07.680 the same exact way back when I was like 16, 17. 00:25:07.680 --> 00:25:09.579 What was that feeling like? It's just this feeling 00:25:09.579 --> 00:25:12.799 of like euphoria and just like love and like 00:25:12.799 --> 00:25:15.740 your heart is like bursting. So kind of like 00:25:15.740 --> 00:25:17.240 you're in love with the show. You're in love 00:25:17.240 --> 00:25:20.119 with the show and the characters. And it's been 00:25:20.119 --> 00:25:22.960 a long time since I've been in love with the 00:25:22.960 --> 00:25:24.920 characters, like all the characters. Right. Like 00:25:24.920 --> 00:25:26.880 there are shows where you're like like one and 00:25:26.880 --> 00:25:29.200 the other or maybe not. But this one, like every 00:25:29.200 --> 00:25:32.779 single character, except for Ilya's family, who 00:25:32.779 --> 00:25:35.660 is not lovable at all on purpose. But the others 00:25:35.660 --> 00:25:39.440 are great characters. So you just I just fell 00:25:39.440 --> 00:25:42.220 in love with the show because it. unlocked something 00:25:42.220 --> 00:25:45.220 in me that I feel like has been pretty locked 00:25:45.220 --> 00:25:47.299 away since I became an adult. You know, like 00:25:47.299 --> 00:25:50.039 when you're an adult, there's no room for this 00:25:50.039 --> 00:25:53.339 feeling and joy. And yeah, and that's unfortunate. 00:25:53.420 --> 00:25:55.940 But, you know, like you said, dumpster fire. 00:25:56.000 --> 00:25:58.759 Yeah. And like you get busy. I feel like the 00:25:58.759 --> 00:26:00.720 show sounds like you're saying like it slowed 00:26:00.720 --> 00:26:03.980 you down. It's giving me joy. Honestly, it's 00:26:03.980 --> 00:26:05.640 giving me so much joy. Everyone deserves that. 00:26:05.720 --> 00:26:09.039 Everyone deserves sunshine. That would be the 00:26:09.039 --> 00:26:11.119 name of our podcast? It is. Did you like that 00:26:11.119 --> 00:26:14.380 I snuck that in? I did. It was your idea. It 00:26:14.380 --> 00:26:17.319 was. Yeah, just letting everybody know. Oh, thank 00:26:17.319 --> 00:26:21.200 you. I'm sorry. Was I asking for credit with 00:26:21.200 --> 00:26:24.819 my eyes? No, no, you don't need credit. But yeah, 00:26:24.900 --> 00:26:26.859 that's it. I think it just unlocks something 00:26:26.859 --> 00:26:29.619 that has been locked for a very long time. That's 00:26:29.619 --> 00:26:33.980 it. That's the gist of it. We are... Obsessed. 00:26:33.980 --> 00:26:37.539 It's very clear. This is a shared obsession by 00:26:37.539 --> 00:26:42.279 many people. It's a wonderful place to be. So 00:26:42.279 --> 00:26:44.460 what have you been doing with yourself since 00:26:44.460 --> 00:26:47.579 the show ended? Can I ask, like, what? Like, 00:26:47.579 --> 00:26:52.019 honestly? Yes. I mean, we know you're replaying 00:26:52.019 --> 00:26:54.319 The Cottage. You're in another plane of existence. 00:26:54.720 --> 00:26:56.940 I am. But in this reality, what have you been 00:26:56.940 --> 00:26:59.500 doing with yourself? Well, I have watched the 00:26:59.500 --> 00:27:03.549 show numerous times. I've rewatched it very, 00:27:03.650 --> 00:27:05.730 I've never in my life rewatched a show ever. 00:27:05.829 --> 00:27:08.369 You've never rewatched a show? Never. Not a single 00:27:08.369 --> 00:27:10.049 time. I've watched like reruns, you know, like 00:27:10.049 --> 00:27:11.930 here and there. If I'm like doing laundry, like 00:27:11.930 --> 00:27:13.569 I love Schitt's Creek. I'll always put her on 00:27:13.569 --> 00:27:15.890 the background and just. But not like from front 00:27:15.890 --> 00:27:19.730 to back? No, not from like start to finish. I've 00:27:19.730 --> 00:27:23.170 never rewatched a show in my life. Wow, that's 00:27:23.170 --> 00:27:26.829 a lot. You have? I have. I watch the same stuff 00:27:26.829 --> 00:27:29.789 over and over. Okay. No, I haven't. I honestly 00:27:29.789 --> 00:27:31.430 haven't. And this was the first time. And I was 00:27:31.430 --> 00:27:33.309 like, I'm not going to rewatch this show. Like, 00:27:33.329 --> 00:27:35.109 I love it. I love it. I'm obsessed with it. But 00:27:35.109 --> 00:27:36.970 I'm going to rewatch it. I mean, it's six episodes. 00:27:37.130 --> 00:27:39.450 So it's a short commitment. Shorter commitment 00:27:39.450 --> 00:27:43.450 than like Buffy. Rewatching Buffy is a lot. Yeah, 00:27:43.490 --> 00:27:46.829 that's true. But you've rewatched it. I've rewatched 00:27:46.829 --> 00:27:48.849 it. I can't even tell you how many times. I think 00:27:48.849 --> 00:27:52.079 I rewatched it start to finish. three full times 00:27:52.079 --> 00:27:55.660 now. It's definitely a show where you, like, 00:27:55.660 --> 00:27:57.940 learn more as you rewatch. You do. You, like, 00:27:57.940 --> 00:28:00.319 pay attention. And of course, I loved episodes 00:28:00.319 --> 00:28:02.420 one and two the second time around. Like, love 00:28:02.420 --> 00:28:04.940 them. Yeah, the second time, right? First time 00:28:04.940 --> 00:28:07.000 you know the story. So I loved episodes one and 00:28:07.000 --> 00:28:09.440 two and then, of course, the rest of them. And 00:28:09.440 --> 00:28:11.599 so I watched it probably three times rewatched 00:28:11.599 --> 00:28:15.779 fully. I have watched episodes four, five, and 00:28:15.779 --> 00:28:20.250 six at least. five times. So you've rewatched 00:28:20.250 --> 00:28:22.009 everything. I've rewatched everything multiple 00:28:22.009 --> 00:28:24.769 times. So I've been doing that. Then I have also 00:28:24.769 --> 00:28:29.069 been watching reels. I've been watching reels, 00:28:29.069 --> 00:28:31.430 so social media. So like I'm on threads and I'm 00:28:31.430 --> 00:28:33.789 watching reels and I'm on threads and then I'm 00:28:33.789 --> 00:28:35.490 on Instagram and then I'm on Instagram and then 00:28:35.490 --> 00:28:39.009 I'm threads and every single piece of my algorithm 00:28:39.009 --> 00:28:43.460 is heated rivalry and I never. want that problem 00:28:43.460 --> 00:28:47.559 to ever go away. And so but I'm not the only 00:28:47.559 --> 00:28:49.380 one, right? Like I have plenty of girlfriends 00:28:49.380 --> 00:28:52.319 who are watching the show or who have watched 00:28:52.319 --> 00:28:55.660 the show. And all day long, we are sending each 00:28:55.660 --> 00:29:00.720 other reels or memes or clips or edits. They're 00:29:00.720 --> 00:29:04.150 so. There are so many edits. It's so interesting 00:29:04.150 --> 00:29:06.470 because it's like you could rewatch it and then 00:29:06.470 --> 00:29:09.109 you watch an edit that's like a compilation of 00:29:09.109 --> 00:29:11.150 clips. And then you have to go back and rewatch 00:29:11.150 --> 00:29:13.450 that part. Yeah. And they're set to a different 00:29:13.450 --> 00:29:16.349 like they're set to like great music. Yeah. And 00:29:16.349 --> 00:29:18.890 then you're like crying about it. I cry all the 00:29:18.890 --> 00:29:22.299 time. I am not. You know me. You don't cry all 00:29:22.299 --> 00:29:23.960 the time. She does not cry all the time. I am 00:29:23.960 --> 00:29:26.240 not an emotional. Yes. Very emotional person. 00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:28.599 You were just crying. You were sending me pictures 00:29:28.599 --> 00:29:30.799 of you with like a single tear. I was like, is 00:29:30.799 --> 00:29:33.539 this some art, some performance art? Right. So 00:29:33.539 --> 00:29:35.519 like, you know that I'm not, you know, must be 00:29:35.519 --> 00:29:37.799 the Russian, but I'm not very emotional. They 00:29:37.799 --> 00:29:40.279 don't blush either. I've heard. Never have I 00:29:40.279 --> 00:29:42.099 ever blushed. You've never blushed. That is not 00:29:42.099 --> 00:29:44.420 a thing that has ever happened. Russians do not 00:29:44.420 --> 00:29:49.559 blush. So I, I've been crying a lot. And just, 00:29:49.640 --> 00:29:53.819 like, emotional. Oh, my God. Like, I am always 00:29:53.819 --> 00:29:57.299 crying. I'm always crying now. So you've rewatched. 00:29:57.460 --> 00:30:00.700 You're watching reels. You're sending memes. 00:30:01.119 --> 00:30:04.440 And you're crying. I would be immediately making 00:30:04.440 --> 00:30:06.220 fun of you right now. I'd be like, she has lost 00:30:06.220 --> 00:30:10.039 her goddamn mind. But because... You can't. I 00:30:10.039 --> 00:30:12.900 understand. You do understand. Empathize. Are 00:30:12.900 --> 00:30:15.599 you also crying all the time, though? I, you 00:30:15.599 --> 00:30:19.000 know, I did. Get teary, but not like not like 00:30:19.000 --> 00:30:21.619 you. I think there's something also going on 00:30:21.619 --> 00:30:23.839 with like the Russian. Oh, that's yeah. I think 00:30:23.839 --> 00:30:26.180 we talked about this, which we'll talk about. 00:30:26.240 --> 00:30:28.359 We have an entire episode. Another episode, just 00:30:28.359 --> 00:30:33.859 teasers. But I the one social media that you're 00:30:33.859 --> 00:30:38.220 on, not on Diana, is Reddit. And I just find 00:30:38.220 --> 00:30:41.160 it's the ADHD in me. Another topic for another 00:30:41.160 --> 00:30:45.529 episode. But I just I just went on like. All 00:30:45.529 --> 00:30:48.849 of these deep dives. On Reddit. On Reddit about 00:30:48.849 --> 00:30:52.089 the show, like, which is typically how I just 00:30:52.089 --> 00:30:54.650 like watch a show because I know a lot about 00:30:54.650 --> 00:30:57.869 the show even before. I'm now reading the entire 00:30:57.869 --> 00:31:01.130 Game Changer series. Not in order because I got 00:31:01.130 --> 00:31:04.190 to get my Iliad first. Oh, are you reading the 00:31:04.190 --> 00:31:07.170 thing? I am. Okay. I am. No spoilers for the 00:31:07.170 --> 00:31:09.210 books. No. I will give you no spoilers. I don't 00:31:09.210 --> 00:31:10.769 want them. I'm not reading the books because 00:31:10.769 --> 00:31:12.730 I don't want the spoilers for the next season. 00:31:12.930 --> 00:31:15.680 Oh, no. Okay. The books are fantastic. Excellent. 00:31:15.799 --> 00:31:18.460 They're really good. But there's something about 00:31:18.460 --> 00:31:22.000 the show and Jacob Tierney's direction. He's 00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:25.799 a genius. And Hudson and Connor's complete commitment 00:31:25.799 --> 00:31:28.960 and authenticity that I think really elevates 00:31:28.960 --> 00:31:33.839 the genre. And unlike Diana, I do love smutty 00:31:33.839 --> 00:31:38.779 romances a lot. Another obsession of mine. And 00:31:38.779 --> 00:31:42.059 I have to say, what has this fandom given me 00:31:42.059 --> 00:31:45.839 is like an actual, hey, someone takes this sort 00:31:45.839 --> 00:31:49.460 of like. Seriously. You know what I mean? This 00:31:49.460 --> 00:31:51.680 is like, you know, the one thing like people 00:31:51.680 --> 00:31:54.559 would make fun of these harlequin romances. Who's 00:31:54.559 --> 00:31:57.420 reading this nonsense? And it's always been the 00:31:57.420 --> 00:32:00.640 ugly stuff sister. Like women are looked down 00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:03.279 upon if you read that stuff. Like, oh, you're 00:32:03.279 --> 00:32:06.480 not a serious person. Yes. And I'm a very serious 00:32:06.480 --> 00:32:09.259 person. You're a doctor. I'm a doctor. That's 00:32:09.259 --> 00:32:11.900 how serious I am. And I really, really enjoy 00:32:11.900 --> 00:32:15.920 these like smutty romances. And this. really 00:32:15.920 --> 00:32:18.819 leans into it and actually elevates it into something 00:32:18.819 --> 00:32:21.680 like really meaningful. Right. When you're trying 00:32:21.680 --> 00:32:24.680 to find joy, your sunshine. And who you are. 00:32:25.000 --> 00:32:28.720 Yes, who you are. Like when you're trying to 00:32:28.720 --> 00:32:32.980 find an escape from your reality. And we started 00:32:32.980 --> 00:32:35.839 the show saying, who are we? And I said that 00:32:35.839 --> 00:32:39.160 sometimes I feel like a little bit lost because 00:32:39.160 --> 00:32:42.180 everyone feels this way probably at some point 00:32:42.180 --> 00:32:44.480 in their life because they're always doing something. 00:32:44.809 --> 00:32:47.829 externally or giving externally or, you know, 00:32:47.890 --> 00:32:51.349 you're just lose that piece of yourself. And 00:32:51.349 --> 00:32:56.089 smutty romances give you something really quick 00:32:56.089 --> 00:33:00.630 and like a quick hit. And women are always looked 00:33:00.630 --> 00:33:03.549 down upon for that. And so this is something 00:33:03.549 --> 00:33:07.529 unexpected for me that the show, which started 00:33:07.529 --> 00:33:10.910 as these really well -written books, I should 00:33:10.910 --> 00:33:13.880 say. 100 % recommend. Maybe if someone else recommends 00:33:13.880 --> 00:33:15.700 them, I'll read them. Yeah. Maybe if someone 00:33:15.700 --> 00:33:18.640 else recommends them and then tells you in chapter 00:33:18.640 --> 00:33:21.380 six, it gets really good. Yeah. Maybe then I'll 00:33:21.380 --> 00:33:23.339 consider it. Then you'll consider it because, 00:33:23.400 --> 00:33:25.539 you know, my recommendations. Because your opinion 00:33:25.539 --> 00:33:28.819 is. You know, I'm not selling it. You're not 00:33:28.819 --> 00:33:32.420 selling it. No. Rachel Reed does not need to 00:33:32.420 --> 00:33:35.539 be sold. She's a really beautiful writer. The 00:33:35.539 --> 00:33:38.299 way she describes the characters, you really 00:33:38.299 --> 00:33:40.839 get into their head. And for some reason, the 00:33:40.839 --> 00:33:43.420 only word in my head when I read her books is 00:33:43.420 --> 00:33:45.839 adorable. The way she describes their thoughts 00:33:45.839 --> 00:33:49.359 and feelings is, it's just adorable. You fall 00:33:49.359 --> 00:33:54.019 in love with the characters. But the show, I 00:33:54.019 --> 00:33:58.620 just think, elevated it to a level that... Now 00:33:58.620 --> 00:34:00.900 everybody's doing it. You know what? I'm coming 00:34:00.900 --> 00:34:03.319 out of the smutty closet. I'm coming out of the 00:34:03.319 --> 00:34:07.880 smutty romance closet. I'm out of the smutty 00:34:07.880 --> 00:34:11.039 closet. Good for you. Good for you. I'm proud 00:34:11.039 --> 00:34:13.679 of you. Yeah, I read it. Yeah, I love it. And 00:34:13.679 --> 00:34:17.420 I'm coming out of the no emotions closet. And 00:34:17.420 --> 00:34:22.840 now I am just crying. I'm weeping all day long. 00:34:22.920 --> 00:34:25.219 I can't talk about almost anything without crying 00:34:25.219 --> 00:34:28.739 now. This show has... broken me and healed me 00:34:28.739 --> 00:34:32.280 in so many different ways, honestly. Is it like 00:34:32.280 --> 00:34:35.860 puzzling your husband a little bit? He's nervous. 00:34:36.760 --> 00:34:38.760 He's like, there's a lot of emotion. He is nervous. 00:34:39.119 --> 00:34:42.119 I didn't expect to feel this way, honestly. I 00:34:42.119 --> 00:34:44.219 haven't felt this way in a long time. So it's 00:34:44.219 --> 00:34:48.489 definitely... eerie a little bit but also like 00:34:48.489 --> 00:34:50.570 because so many people are like this it makes 00:34:50.570 --> 00:34:52.829 me feel like oh you're not alone i'm not alone 00:34:52.829 --> 00:34:54.949 and i would much rather stay at the cottage for 00:34:54.949 --> 00:34:57.050 as long as possible yeah yeah there's something 00:34:57.050 --> 00:35:00.710 to be said about escaping so oh wait i need to 00:35:00.710 --> 00:35:04.070 ask you something what is your body count body 00:35:04.070 --> 00:35:06.849 count body count do you need me to explain you're 00:35:06.849 --> 00:35:10.769 gonna have to explain this all right so so so 00:35:10.769 --> 00:35:14.179 it's not what you think What I'm asking is, how 00:35:14.179 --> 00:35:18.679 many people have you recruited to watch the show? 00:35:18.820 --> 00:35:20.860 Oh, like an MLM sort of situation? Yeah, like 00:35:20.860 --> 00:35:22.780 the MLM. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because that's what 00:35:22.780 --> 00:35:25.039 we do now, right? That's what we do. Yes. You 00:35:25.039 --> 00:35:28.539 failed with me, but... I... I'm going to count 00:35:28.539 --> 00:35:31.739 you as one of my recruits because I pulled you 00:35:31.739 --> 00:35:34.079 kicking and screaming. The person who made me 00:35:34.079 --> 00:35:36.380 do it is hopefully listening to this. And I just 00:35:36.380 --> 00:35:38.860 want to thank you for and thank you. And I also 00:35:38.860 --> 00:35:41.159 want to tell you, like, why did you do this to 00:35:41.159 --> 00:35:43.840 me? But also, thank you. So I feel like you're 00:35:43.840 --> 00:35:45.659 just doing this to make me a little bit jealous. 00:35:45.980 --> 00:35:49.420 Well, like, what is what is a situationship if 00:35:49.420 --> 00:35:52.199 I don't make you jealous? I agree. I feel like 00:35:52.199 --> 00:35:55.440 we're in the club locking eyes and you're like 00:35:55.440 --> 00:35:58.320 dancing up on some girl. And I'm just standing 00:35:58.320 --> 00:36:01.159 there. I'm so happy it's a girl that you've chosen 00:36:01.159 --> 00:36:04.380 because I'm definitely I am definitely not dancing 00:36:04.380 --> 00:36:07.199 up on a guy in a club. I am with you on this. 00:36:07.199 --> 00:36:10.219 That is gross. In a club. I agree. I agree. You 00:36:10.219 --> 00:36:14.320 know what? So you're on social media, etc. But 00:36:14.320 --> 00:36:17.280 you said something that was really sweet that 00:36:17.280 --> 00:36:20.199 I wanted to go back to is that you're like talking 00:36:20.199 --> 00:36:24.280 to all your friends. I have to say I have actually. 00:36:25.159 --> 00:36:27.380 texted people. I haven't texted in a while. I've 00:36:27.380 --> 00:36:30.079 been like, hey, happy New Year. Merry Christmas. 00:36:30.219 --> 00:36:33.159 This is exactly what MLM people do. And then 00:36:33.159 --> 00:36:35.659 three texts later, I'm like, have you watched 00:36:35.659 --> 00:36:39.820 this show called Tated Rivalry? And the funniest 00:36:39.820 --> 00:36:43.460 part and this like is that two of my really close 00:36:43.460 --> 00:36:47.360 friends I like reconnected with. So a fictional 00:36:47.360 --> 00:36:50.860 story has now given you more friends, has given 00:36:50.860 --> 00:36:55.159 me, well, not more friends. Friends, reconnection. 00:36:55.159 --> 00:36:56.820 You're reconnecting, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. 00:36:56.960 --> 00:37:02.039 So I don't count bodies. I count substance. Oh. 00:37:02.159 --> 00:37:03.480 That's the kind of person I am. Because of Jane 00:37:03.480 --> 00:37:06.940 Austen. Because of that, yes. But also because 00:37:06.940 --> 00:37:09.500 a lot of people have already watched the show. 00:37:09.780 --> 00:37:12.519 That's true. Is there anyone who hasn't? There 00:37:12.519 --> 00:37:14.639 is, honestly. And I don't want to be friends 00:37:14.639 --> 00:37:16.920 with them. I'm saying it right now into the microphone. 00:37:17.000 --> 00:37:19.539 If you have not watched the show and you are 00:37:19.539 --> 00:37:23.179 my friend, you are no longer my friend. Or. You 00:37:23.179 --> 00:37:25.900 can recruit them. I don't, you know what? There 00:37:25.900 --> 00:37:27.940 needs to be a pool. There needs, yeah. Yeah, 00:37:27.960 --> 00:37:31.139 someone, we need more. We need more of us. Yeah. 00:37:31.320 --> 00:37:33.820 I mean, it seems like there's a lot of us, honestly. 00:37:34.019 --> 00:37:36.119 I don't know how many people I've recruited, 00:37:36.199 --> 00:37:40.059 but at least six or seven. I have connected with 00:37:40.059 --> 00:37:43.039 people. I don't know if my body count is, body 00:37:43.039 --> 00:37:47.840 count, I guess, is six or seven, but a handful. 00:37:48.119 --> 00:37:51.789 Yeah. I don't like to kiss and tell, so. You 00:37:51.789 --> 00:37:54.210 just like to try to kiss people in public. Yes, 00:37:54.210 --> 00:37:58.389 enough. Enough that I'm now, my text chains are 00:37:58.389 --> 00:38:04.409 full of conversation about this. So I did text 00:38:04.409 --> 00:38:08.070 someone over the break who was a work colleague. 00:38:08.150 --> 00:38:11.380 That one I was like. my God, am I doing this? 00:38:11.420 --> 00:38:13.340 Right, right. But at this point, I just was like, 00:38:13.420 --> 00:38:14.840 I just need another. You just needed someone 00:38:14.840 --> 00:38:17.059 else because you didn't have anyone else. I didn't. 00:38:17.059 --> 00:38:20.280 I didn't. No, I was alone. It's a very, I can 00:38:20.280 --> 00:38:22.440 only imagine how lonely that is. Yeah, it's very, 00:38:22.559 --> 00:38:25.739 it's a lonely place. But now we're all in the 00:38:25.739 --> 00:38:28.059 cottage. I love talking about this with you. 00:38:28.119 --> 00:38:31.059 I do. It's so much fun. Okay, Diana, you know 00:38:31.059 --> 00:38:34.500 what I think we should do? What? As an homage 00:38:34.500 --> 00:38:38.079 to the title of the show, I think we should close. 00:38:38.670 --> 00:38:40.869 With a moment of sunshine. Oh, I love that. It 00:38:40.869 --> 00:38:44.489 can be from real life, can be from show life. 00:38:44.730 --> 00:38:47.010 I'm going to call it show life because it's on 00:38:47.010 --> 00:38:50.070 par with reality really for me. It can be anything. 00:38:50.449 --> 00:38:52.670 So should I go first? Yeah, I think you should. 00:38:52.769 --> 00:38:56.250 Okay. Okay. I'm going to pick something from 00:38:56.250 --> 00:38:59.929 the show. Okay. And the something is feet. Oh, 00:39:00.030 --> 00:39:02.369 that's your moment of sunshine. Feet. You perv. 00:39:02.389 --> 00:39:05.050 Of course. Of course you would think that. So 00:39:05.050 --> 00:39:08.829 I will explain, you know, how Shane and Ilya 00:39:08.829 --> 00:39:12.130 show each other affection in public. Right. Little 00:39:12.130 --> 00:39:14.650 touches. And the foot one is a big one, right? 00:39:14.750 --> 00:39:16.610 Yeah. Because no one can see that. No one can. 00:39:16.710 --> 00:39:19.590 Or even if, you know, it's so subtle. Right. 00:39:19.949 --> 00:39:24.730 And when Ilya is in that press conference where 00:39:24.730 --> 00:39:27.250 the reporter is asking him a question that literally 00:39:27.250 --> 00:39:31.429 took five minutes to explain and Shane gives 00:39:31.429 --> 00:39:35.070 him that sort of reassuring foot touch. And I 00:39:35.070 --> 00:39:37.989 love that that's reflected. This is my moment 00:39:37.989 --> 00:39:43.570 of sunshine in episode six when they're so comfortable 00:39:43.570 --> 00:39:47.050 and cozy in the cottage and Shane is reading. 00:39:47.900 --> 00:39:50.639 And Ilya's on his phone. But their feet are, 00:39:50.699 --> 00:39:52.780 like, pressed against each other. And they're 00:39:52.780 --> 00:39:56.460 just quietly doing their own thing. I love that. 00:39:56.500 --> 00:39:58.760 I love that part. Okay, so you're not a perv. 00:39:58.760 --> 00:40:00.800 It's very sweet. I'm not a perv. It's a very 00:40:00.800 --> 00:40:02.860 sweet moment. It's very sweet. I love that. So 00:40:02.860 --> 00:40:04.960 what's your moment of sunshine? My moment of 00:40:04.960 --> 00:40:07.960 sunshine is outside the show. But it has a lot 00:40:07.960 --> 00:40:11.059 to do with the show. My moment of sunshine is 00:40:11.059 --> 00:40:17.090 obsessing over a show with my best friend. With 00:40:17.090 --> 00:40:19.570 whom I talk to all the time, all the time. But 00:40:19.570 --> 00:40:21.969 we have been talking, I would want to say, three 00:40:21.969 --> 00:40:24.530 times a day. Just like a little short burst, 00:40:24.570 --> 00:40:25.949 you know, when we're taking like a lunch break 00:40:25.949 --> 00:40:27.769 from work or, you know, in the morning before 00:40:27.769 --> 00:40:29.210 we drop the kids off. Talking, talking. Right, 00:40:29.250 --> 00:40:31.050 talking, like on the phone. On the phone. Yeah. 00:40:31.130 --> 00:40:33.429 Well, we do. We do. That's our thing. But three 00:40:33.429 --> 00:40:35.610 times a day. Three times a day is a lot. It's 00:40:35.610 --> 00:40:38.570 a lot. It's a lot. But my moment of sunshine 00:40:38.570 --> 00:40:42.449 is the fact that she is in this with me. And 00:40:42.449 --> 00:40:46.289 I just love it. Like, I love. Talking to her 00:40:46.289 --> 00:40:50.789 about this and just feeling all the feels of 00:40:50.789 --> 00:40:52.789 the show together. That's my moment of sunshine 00:40:52.789 --> 00:40:55.889 for today. Feet and feels. Feet and feels. I 00:40:55.889 --> 00:40:58.090 love that. That's our moment of sunshine. Feet 00:40:58.090 --> 00:41:01.429 and feels. Next week on Everyone Deserves Sunshine, 00:41:01.630 --> 00:41:04.789 we're talking about... Drumroll, please. Drumroll. 00:41:05.610 --> 00:41:08.469 Masculinity. Masculinity. It's a lot. It's a 00:41:08.469 --> 00:41:11.650 big one. Specifically what it means to us and 00:41:11.650 --> 00:41:15.630 how the show portrays it. I can't wait. to talk 00:41:15.630 --> 00:41:18.550 about this with you, Diana. I really can't. And 00:41:18.550 --> 00:41:21.610 I want to thank our listeners. All five of them. 00:41:21.710 --> 00:41:24.889 Yep. Our friends and our family. 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