WEBVTT 00:00:00.460 --> 00:00:25.940 We'll be right back. to not another running podcast 00:00:25.940 --> 00:00:29.100 i'm your host line six today we're talking about 00:00:29.100 --> 00:00:31.600 how runners actually get coached by themselves 00:00:31.600 --> 00:00:35.700 by code or by an online coach because right now 00:00:35.700 --> 00:00:38.259 everyone's got a plan your watch has opinions 00:00:38.259 --> 00:00:40.820 your app has alerts and your coach has check 00:00:40.820 --> 00:00:43.820 -ins and some of you you're just winging it and 00:00:43.820 --> 00:00:46.460 hoping grit carries you through so the question 00:00:46.460 --> 00:00:49.899 is simple but uncomfortable who's actually making 00:00:49.899 --> 00:00:53.189 you better is it discipline and self -trust Is 00:00:53.189 --> 00:00:55.909 it an algorithm crunching in your data? Or is 00:00:55.909 --> 00:00:58.850 it a human on the other side of the screen? We're 00:00:58.850 --> 00:01:00.649 cutting through the noise, the sales pitches, 00:01:00.729 --> 00:01:03.609 and the egos today. Talking about what works, 00:01:03.649 --> 00:01:06.150 what doesn't, and what the powers that be don't 00:01:06.150 --> 00:01:09.810 want to admit. Before we break this down, I want 00:01:09.810 --> 00:01:11.969 you to hear from someone who's done the work. 00:01:12.450 --> 00:01:16.489 No theories, no hype, just miles. This is Megan 00:01:16.489 --> 00:01:22.090 Kahn's story. May 2023, I ran my first full marathon. 00:01:22.909 --> 00:01:26.049 The Cincinnati Flying Pig. After running two 00:01:26.049 --> 00:01:29.629 half marathons in fall 2022 and coming in first 00:01:29.629 --> 00:01:33.489 overall female both. I accidentally BQ'd the 00:01:33.489 --> 00:01:37.030 Flying Pig with no feel whatsoever. No real plan, 00:01:37.189 --> 00:01:41.150 no clue what I was doing. Let's go back 14 months 00:01:41.150 --> 00:01:45.969 prior, early March 2022. I was in deep, beyond 00:01:45.969 --> 00:01:50.340 deep, into heavy alcoholism. It had been building 00:01:50.340 --> 00:01:53.500 for about 20 years. By this point in March 2022, 00:01:53.920 --> 00:01:56.659 my days were spent waking up with the shakes. 00:01:57.200 --> 00:02:00.519 So I'd pound about six shots of vodka first thing 00:02:00.519 --> 00:02:03.540 in the morning. Repeat vodka shots throughout 00:02:03.540 --> 00:02:06.879 the day until I passed out. This was my life 00:02:06.879 --> 00:02:09.780 for a few years. Mind you, I was still functional. 00:02:10.139 --> 00:02:14.319 I held my job and appeared normal because I hid 00:02:14.319 --> 00:02:17.740 my alcoholism well. But I was slowly killing 00:02:17.740 --> 00:02:22.550 myself. My doctors told me so. I've been sober 00:02:22.550 --> 00:02:26.590 since March 25th, 2022. Getting there is a long 00:02:26.590 --> 00:02:30.710 story for another day. But thereafter, in a nutshell, 00:02:30.949 --> 00:02:34.789 I got bored as heck, so I took up running. I 00:02:34.789 --> 00:02:37.289 ran in one of those halves mentioned above and 00:02:37.289 --> 00:02:41.629 BQ'd in my first full. From there, I learned 00:02:41.629 --> 00:02:46.090 about the six stars. I set out to conquer all 00:02:46.090 --> 00:02:49.870 six. After Boston 2024, I hit a major setback. 00:02:49.909 --> 00:02:53.129 I broke my hip. I was on crutches all summer 00:02:53.129 --> 00:02:57.250 and couldn't run for over 100 days. Would I relapse 00:02:57.250 --> 00:03:01.490 into alcoholism? Some likely feared that. I would. 00:03:01.909 --> 00:03:05.469 But I did the opposite. I did what I could to 00:03:05.469 --> 00:03:08.669 build my strength. Bike, water jog, and lift. 00:03:09.310 --> 00:03:12.509 I ran the Chicago Marathon. after only a few 00:03:12.509 --> 00:03:18.509 weeks of training with a pr pr of 307 .53 after 00:03:18.509 --> 00:03:21.370 that after that my new goal was to hit sub 3. 00:03:21.949 --> 00:03:27.990 i hit that in january 2025 with a 257 .48 i hit 00:03:27.990 --> 00:03:31.189 a sub 3 again in london for my fourth star on 00:03:31.189 --> 00:03:33.870 deck for my fifth star was berlin in september 00:03:33.870 --> 00:03:37.909 2025 on september 3rd while doing speed work 00:03:38.539 --> 00:03:41.080 Outside, I stepped over a rock and broke my foot. 00:03:41.719 --> 00:03:44.300 I had to wear a walking boot for four weeks, 00:03:44.400 --> 00:03:48.000 including when the Berlin Marathon fell. Instead 00:03:48.000 --> 00:03:51.319 of pouting or relapsing, I flew to Berlin and 00:03:51.319 --> 00:03:55.560 ended up walking the entire marathon in my boot. 00:03:55.659 --> 00:03:58.620 It took me just over six hours and I earned my 00:03:58.620 --> 00:04:02.099 fifth star. I am set to get my sixth star medal 00:04:02.099 --> 00:04:07.460 in Tokyo on March 1st. Knock on wood. This was 00:04:07.460 --> 00:04:10.199 longer than I intended, but all of this is to 00:04:10.199 --> 00:04:13.379 say running changed my life. It quite literally 00:04:13.379 --> 00:04:16.379 saved my life. I hope others who are struggling 00:04:16.379 --> 00:04:19.540 can see that running can be the turning point, 00:04:19.699 --> 00:04:23.680 their lifeline. I got to say, huge thanks to 00:04:23.680 --> 00:04:25.899 Megan Kahn for trusting this community with her 00:04:25.899 --> 00:04:30.019 story. That takes guts, real guts. I see you, 00:04:30.019 --> 00:04:33.819 High Stepper. Get it, sis? And if you're listening 00:04:33.819 --> 00:04:36.800 and thinking, yeah, I've got a story too, You 00:04:36.800 --> 00:04:39.399 do. And if you're in the middle of it, climbing 00:04:39.399 --> 00:04:41.879 out of it, or just trying to survive the miles, 00:04:41.980 --> 00:04:45.360 send it in. No perfect ending needed. Just real 00:04:45.360 --> 00:04:48.600 people and real miles. All right, so this brings 00:04:48.600 --> 00:04:51.480 us to the first lane, self -coaching. The good, 00:04:51.620 --> 00:04:54.860 the bad, and why so many runners live here. First 00:04:54.860 --> 00:04:59.259 off, it's free. You can't beat free 99. No one 00:04:59.259 --> 00:05:01.879 cares about your success more than you do. At 00:05:01.879 --> 00:05:04.480 least they shouldn't. You know your body better 00:05:04.480 --> 00:05:08.399 than anyone else. Your success starts and stops 00:05:08.399 --> 00:05:11.000 with you, and you gain the knowledge of learning. 00:05:11.759 --> 00:05:16.000 This is how I started out. I started out by coaching 00:05:16.000 --> 00:05:19.779 myself, creating a plan on the fly from reading 00:05:19.779 --> 00:05:24.500 books, going on forums, surfing on YouTube. Today 00:05:24.500 --> 00:05:29.720 is the easiest time to be an athlete of any sport, 00:05:29.959 --> 00:05:33.769 literally. Growing up, I played basketball. And 00:05:33.769 --> 00:05:35.389 I'm sitting here and I'm watching all these videos 00:05:35.389 --> 00:05:39.730 on YouTube of all these cool training drills 00:05:39.730 --> 00:05:42.730 and stuff that I never in my life thought about. 00:05:42.829 --> 00:05:45.750 And I'm thinking, man, if only when I was a kid 00:05:45.750 --> 00:05:50.110 I had YouTube, I could have been so much better 00:05:50.110 --> 00:05:53.329 of a basketball player. I mean, everything that 00:05:53.329 --> 00:05:57.569 these kids can see pros doing on the court, they 00:05:57.569 --> 00:05:59.449 can sit there and learn and master it themselves. 00:06:00.319 --> 00:06:02.980 They just got to have the tenacity and the will 00:06:02.980 --> 00:06:05.500 to do it. And that's the same thing with running. 00:06:06.279 --> 00:06:12.879 You can go on YouTube and YouTube VO2 Max sessions, 00:06:13.000 --> 00:06:15.959 and they're going to tell you exactly what you 00:06:15.959 --> 00:06:18.180 should be doing and how you should be doing it. 00:06:18.779 --> 00:06:24.240 But the issue is so many people are lazy. They 00:06:24.240 --> 00:06:27.029 don't want to read between the lines. Just because 00:06:27.029 --> 00:06:29.569 dude man is sitting there doing his 400 meter 00:06:29.569 --> 00:06:33.329 repeat to the 450 mile pace, that's not saying 00:06:33.329 --> 00:06:35.709 you should be doing your 400 meter repeat to 00:06:35.709 --> 00:06:39.670 the 450 mile pace. You need to figure out what 00:06:39.670 --> 00:06:43.129 your training zones is and know you do not need 00:06:43.129 --> 00:06:46.509 a coach to tell you what pace you should be running 00:06:46.509 --> 00:06:49.970 at for those. They have all types of calculators 00:06:49.970 --> 00:06:54.170 online. But like I said, everybody wants everything 00:06:54.170 --> 00:06:57.949 handed to them. The thing is, having stuff handed 00:06:57.949 --> 00:07:01.970 to you comes at a cost. And you know just as 00:07:01.970 --> 00:07:05.589 well as I know, things has gotten expensive. 00:07:06.649 --> 00:07:10.009 Like when I was a kid, my mom could give me $5 00:07:10.009 --> 00:07:12.689 and I could go to the store and I could walk 00:07:12.689 --> 00:07:15.629 out with a bag full of candy. If I go to the 00:07:15.629 --> 00:07:19.170 store now with $5, I'm getting one king size 00:07:19.170 --> 00:07:22.709 Reese's cup and maybe a couple of lollipops. 00:07:22.709 --> 00:07:25.300 That ain't even enough to... Crush my sweet tooth. 00:07:25.480 --> 00:07:30.220 So if you can save money, you need to save money. 00:07:31.300 --> 00:07:34.279 Now, I'm sure somebody listening will say, well, 00:07:34.459 --> 00:07:37.480 if you really care about your running, what do 00:07:37.480 --> 00:07:41.000 you mean you should save money and not hire a 00:07:41.000 --> 00:07:43.839 running coach? Well, first off, if this is your 00:07:43.839 --> 00:07:45.899 first time running or you're just starting out, 00:07:46.100 --> 00:07:48.800 your body's going to make adaptations anyway. 00:07:50.220 --> 00:07:52.680 If you've never walked a mile and you start walking 00:07:52.680 --> 00:07:54.540 a mile every single day, pretty soon walking 00:07:54.540 --> 00:07:56.339 a mile is going to be easy. That's how the body 00:07:56.339 --> 00:08:00.319 works. So to go straight out the gate and hire 00:08:00.319 --> 00:08:03.519 a coach, that's just crazy. I mean, that's like 00:08:03.519 --> 00:08:06.319 you getting your first job as a 16 -year -old 00:08:06.319 --> 00:08:09.120 kid and you going to a car dealership and buying 00:08:09.120 --> 00:08:11.879 a Porsche. Like, come on, dude, you need to crawl, 00:08:12.000 --> 00:08:15.899 walk, run, get you a little beater, get proficient 00:08:15.899 --> 00:08:18.399 driving that beater, wait till your insurance 00:08:18.399 --> 00:08:21.670 premium. It's going to be less. And then upgrade 00:08:21.670 --> 00:08:24.129 your car to the next level and then the next 00:08:24.129 --> 00:08:26.389 level after that. But just to jump right out 00:08:26.389 --> 00:08:29.430 the gate and say, oh, I'm just going to start 00:08:29.430 --> 00:08:33.529 marathoning. Let me hire a coach. I mean, hey, 00:08:33.649 --> 00:08:36.190 it's all fine and dandy if that's what you want 00:08:36.190 --> 00:08:39.549 to do. I'm not pocket watching anybody. You spend 00:08:39.549 --> 00:08:42.070 your money how you want to spend. I'm just simply 00:08:42.070 --> 00:08:46.669 saying that there's better ways in the beginning 00:08:46.669 --> 00:08:50.820 stages of running. to spend your money now i'm 00:08:50.820 --> 00:08:52.759 not sitting here saying self -coaching is the 00:08:52.759 --> 00:08:55.639 end -all be -all because self -coaching it does 00:08:55.639 --> 00:08:59.659 come with its cons and potential hazards first 00:08:59.659 --> 00:09:02.679 off trial and error it costs time and fitness 00:09:02.679 --> 00:09:06.100 you only know what what you've experienced so 00:09:06.100 --> 00:09:08.460 there's a learning curve then you have the risk 00:09:08.460 --> 00:09:10.620 of overtraining you could have a type a personality 00:09:10.620 --> 00:09:14.559 where you think no matter what you do it's not 00:09:14.559 --> 00:09:16.889 enough and You're going to do more than you should. 00:09:17.049 --> 00:09:19.230 I've definitely ran down that rabbit hole plenty 00:09:19.230 --> 00:09:23.970 of times. Or you could be a person that don't 00:09:23.970 --> 00:09:26.590 ever want to step out their comfort zone, aren't 00:09:26.590 --> 00:09:29.149 going to do the things that you're not good at. 00:09:29.190 --> 00:09:31.549 Say you're a person that's really fast and you 00:09:31.549 --> 00:09:33.789 can run fast, but you can't run for a long time. 00:09:34.330 --> 00:09:36.350 You're going to want to tend to stay in doing 00:09:36.350 --> 00:09:38.169 speed workouts and stuff, and you're not going 00:09:38.169 --> 00:09:42.570 to want to go do that weekend long run at a slow 00:09:42.570 --> 00:09:46.950 pace. Also, if you're self -coaching and stuff, 00:09:47.029 --> 00:09:48.909 that's energy that you're spending having to 00:09:48.909 --> 00:09:50.830 think about your training instead of just going 00:09:50.830 --> 00:09:52.909 out and training. That's energy that you have 00:09:52.909 --> 00:09:56.009 to spend writing it out, figuring out a way to 00:09:56.009 --> 00:09:59.230 put it to your watch. And that energy is energy 00:09:59.230 --> 00:10:01.830 that you could better use just to focus predominantly 00:10:01.830 --> 00:10:05.230 on your training. So let's move to the next lane, 00:10:05.549 --> 00:10:08.789 AI coaching, what it does well and where it falls 00:10:08.789 --> 00:10:15.769 short. Man created AI, so man is smarter than 00:10:15.769 --> 00:10:19.370 AI. Just like man created the calculator, in 00:10:19.370 --> 00:10:22.730 fact, the guy's name was Blaise Pascal, so you 00:10:22.730 --> 00:10:24.389 would think that he would be able to solve an 00:10:24.389 --> 00:10:27.769 equation faster than the calculator. But I guarantee 00:10:27.769 --> 00:10:31.470 you this, you bring Blaise Pascal back to life, 00:10:31.590 --> 00:10:34.649 and you give me a calculator, and you ask us 00:10:34.649 --> 00:10:37.889 both a multiplication question or any type of 00:10:37.889 --> 00:10:43.940 mathematical question, will solve it faster than 00:10:43.940 --> 00:10:49.279 he would that's just the way it is so with ai 00:10:49.279 --> 00:10:52.500 training it's just training based on real -time 00:10:52.500 --> 00:10:56.820 data sleep quality heart rate hrv accumulated 00:10:56.820 --> 00:11:00.220 fatigue versus recovery it adapts to you day 00:11:00.220 --> 00:11:03.799 by day for example i wear a device called a whoop 00:11:03.799 --> 00:11:08.340 recently i had a workout that had 18 400 meter 00:11:08.340 --> 00:11:13.720 repeats 2 .25 mile warm up 2 .25 mile cool down 00:11:13.720 --> 00:11:18.539 anyhow my whoop gave me a notification saying 00:11:18.539 --> 00:11:23.200 your recovery wasn't what it should be we're 00:11:23.200 --> 00:11:26.539 gonna adjust your workout so instead of it having 00:11:26.539 --> 00:11:30.419 me do the 18 400 meter repeats it cut those repeats 00:11:30.419 --> 00:11:33.639 down to 10 but the key difference was instead 00:11:33.639 --> 00:11:37.379 of going straight into a one minute rest it had 00:11:37.379 --> 00:11:41.320 me do a 200 meter float jog in between those 00:11:41.320 --> 00:11:46.379 400 meter repeats and then a 30 second rest still 00:11:46.379 --> 00:11:50.740 the same warm up and same cool down it provides 00:11:50.740 --> 00:11:54.620 weekly mileage progressions workout balance easy 00:11:54.620 --> 00:11:58.899 hard long runs it's always available no scheduling 00:11:58.899 --> 00:12:02.940 a phone call or waiting for reply with ai you 00:12:02.940 --> 00:12:07.000 get immediate feedback it's cost effective you 00:12:07.000 --> 00:12:11.399 can It can range anywhere from $60 to $360 a 00:12:11.399 --> 00:12:14.639 year. I'm talking the Hal Higdon app, the Run 00:12:14.639 --> 00:12:18.039 app, the higher end of things would be buying 00:12:18.039 --> 00:12:22.759 a Whoop. It's scalable as your goals grow. So, 00:12:22.799 --> 00:12:28.360 for instance, you may start at running a 20 -minute 00:12:28.360 --> 00:12:31.879 5K, and then eventually you get that 5K down 00:12:31.879 --> 00:12:35.360 to 18 minutes. It's going to grow with you. It's 00:12:35.360 --> 00:12:38.250 easily accessible. It's data -driven feedback 00:12:38.250 --> 00:12:41.049 isn't going to tell you what you want to hear. 00:12:41.129 --> 00:12:43.450 It's going to tell you exactly what the data 00:12:43.450 --> 00:12:48.049 shows. AI, it adjusts to the runner. The runner 00:12:48.049 --> 00:12:52.149 doesn't adjust to AI. Now, like with anything, 00:12:52.450 --> 00:12:57.690 there's a whole host of cons to using AI for 00:12:57.690 --> 00:13:01.690 coaching. It's driven by data only and not purpose. 00:13:01.750 --> 00:13:05.549 It doesn't understand the personal meaning for 00:13:05.549 --> 00:13:08.370 your goals. There's no emotional connection. 00:13:09.570 --> 00:13:14.190 This app, this AI doesn't believe in you. And 00:13:14.190 --> 00:13:17.450 the data, it starts driving your every decision. 00:13:18.049 --> 00:13:22.309 And the thing about this is the data isn't always 00:13:22.309 --> 00:13:25.070 correct. There's been times where I've slept 00:13:25.070 --> 00:13:28.610 rough and my whoop bend and moved up on my arm 00:13:28.610 --> 00:13:31.509 too high. And I'm waking up and it's saying my 00:13:31.509 --> 00:13:33.970 rest and heart rate was 10 beats per minute. 00:13:34.070 --> 00:13:37.559 Like, no way. you're nearly dead at that point. 00:13:38.139 --> 00:13:42.500 And then your whoop would say, oh, my goodness, 00:13:42.639 --> 00:13:45.240 you have a world -class heart rate that's never 00:13:45.240 --> 00:13:47.600 been known to man. We're going to go out there 00:13:47.600 --> 00:13:50.000 and you're going to do 400 -meter repeats at 00:13:50.000 --> 00:13:53.240 a three -minute pace. I'm like, come on, dude. 00:13:53.799 --> 00:13:57.200 I'm not Elliot Kipchoge. But, no, real talk, 00:13:57.320 --> 00:14:01.980 though, it does have its cons, and you just need 00:14:01.980 --> 00:14:05.889 to be aware. If there's some data that just doesn't 00:14:05.889 --> 00:14:09.610 look right, like you know in your heart what 00:14:09.610 --> 00:14:12.870 you are. Just because something is telling you 00:14:12.870 --> 00:14:15.450 that you're something way more than what you 00:14:15.450 --> 00:14:18.210 are or way less than what you are, you got to 00:14:18.210 --> 00:14:20.830 use your judgment and think, maybe there's a 00:14:20.830 --> 00:14:25.789 reason why this data doesn't look right. If your 00:14:25.789 --> 00:14:28.669 HRV is normally 60 milliseconds and all of a 00:14:28.669 --> 00:14:31.669 sudden you wake up one day and it's 150 milliseconds, 00:14:32.110 --> 00:14:35.019 that should tell you. there's something off so 00:14:35.019 --> 00:14:37.980 i wouldn't trust the data for that day because 00:14:37.980 --> 00:14:41.179 at the end of the day garbage data is garbage 00:14:41.179 --> 00:14:44.879 guidance so take it with a grain of salt don't 00:14:44.879 --> 00:14:48.080 become a slave to the data this brings us to 00:14:48.080 --> 00:14:51.480 the third lane online running coaches you have 00:14:51.480 --> 00:14:54.820 access to experienced coaches from anywhere for 00:14:54.820 --> 00:14:57.960 instance you have someone you follow on strava 00:14:57.960 --> 00:15:01.279 you see The numbers they're putting up at races 00:15:01.279 --> 00:15:03.620 and you like what you see from them and they're 00:15:03.620 --> 00:15:06.740 raving about a coach, you too could have that 00:15:06.740 --> 00:15:10.399 very same coach. The ability to find a coach 00:15:10.399 --> 00:15:14.440 that understands you and your goals. Plans adjusted 00:15:14.440 --> 00:15:19.679 to your history, injuries, and life stress. Coaches 00:15:19.679 --> 00:15:22.659 understand nuances that data can't. Like I was 00:15:22.659 --> 00:15:27.360 saying, if your wearable device gives you false 00:15:27.360 --> 00:15:31.169 data, then in turn the AI is going to adjust 00:15:31.169 --> 00:15:33.590 your plan according to that data. And if the 00:15:33.590 --> 00:15:36.070 data is garbage, then the guidance is going to 00:15:36.070 --> 00:15:40.350 be garbage. Encouragement when motivation dips. 00:15:40.809 --> 00:15:44.110 I think that's probably the most important thing 00:15:44.110 --> 00:15:49.429 that a coach could provide to an athlete is the 00:15:49.429 --> 00:15:53.769 motivation and encouragement. When your confidence 00:15:53.769 --> 00:15:56.710 dips, I don't think there's an athlete out there 00:15:57.259 --> 00:16:00.659 that never has doubts in their mind. I know I 00:16:00.659 --> 00:16:03.340 have doubts all the time, and I will sit there 00:16:03.340 --> 00:16:06.159 and go in a rabbit hole in my mind for endless 00:16:06.159 --> 00:16:10.980 amounts of time. And at the end of the day, all 00:16:10.980 --> 00:16:15.080 you can do is what you can do. And wish in one 00:16:15.080 --> 00:16:17.879 hand and, you know, just keep putting in the 00:16:17.879 --> 00:16:21.519 work. But having somebody in your corner that's 00:16:21.519 --> 00:16:24.080 telling you like, hey, hey, dude, what you're 00:16:24.080 --> 00:16:27.870 doing is right. I've seen this before. Hey, dude, 00:16:28.070 --> 00:16:30.009 you're going to be all right, son. Don't even 00:16:30.009 --> 00:16:33.049 trip. All right, so now we're going to move into 00:16:33.049 --> 00:16:36.629 the cons of online running coaches. First and 00:16:36.629 --> 00:16:40.370 foremost will be the price. I've seen as low 00:16:40.370 --> 00:16:44.590 as $75 for the most basic coaching plans, upwards 00:16:44.590 --> 00:16:49.950 to over $300 a month. In my opinion, that's way 00:16:49.950 --> 00:16:59.330 too much money. I mean, at $150 an hour, I wouldn't 00:16:59.330 --> 00:17:02.429 imagine that it would take anybody more than 00:17:02.429 --> 00:17:06.869 an hour to create a person, a plan for one month. 00:17:07.170 --> 00:17:11.210 And the reason being is I did my research and 00:17:11.210 --> 00:17:15.670 most coaches are using this platform called Training 00:17:15.670 --> 00:17:20.170 Peaks or VDOT. Training Peaks is $60 a month. 00:17:20.329 --> 00:17:24.549 VDOT is $300 a year. for up to 25 athletes, $400 00:17:24.549 --> 00:17:28.609 a year for up to 100 athletes, and $4 .99 a year 00:17:28.609 --> 00:17:35.109 for over 200 athletes. All right. If you go and 00:17:35.109 --> 00:17:37.349 do your research, you'll see that pretty much 00:17:37.349 --> 00:17:41.470 with these plans that coaches use to create plans 00:17:41.470 --> 00:17:44.750 for the runners, all they're doing essentially 00:17:44.750 --> 00:17:49.250 is punching in the times that the runners give 00:17:49.250 --> 00:17:51.410 them or that the data shows that the runners 00:17:51.410 --> 00:17:55.769 run. And this platform that they're using is 00:17:55.769 --> 00:17:58.049 going to create a spreadsheet tailor -made to 00:17:58.049 --> 00:18:03.269 that runner. Now, to even take it even further, 00:18:03.490 --> 00:18:10.470 to become a running coach through UESCA, it costs 00:18:10.470 --> 00:18:15.009 $599, $599 to get that running coach certification. 00:18:16.009 --> 00:18:20.369 So you mean to tell me that if you have an athlete, 00:18:20.589 --> 00:18:24.240 one athlete, signed up for you for six months, 00:18:24.380 --> 00:18:27.039 and you're charging the athlete, we're going 00:18:27.039 --> 00:18:30.079 to go on the lower scale. Just $100 a month. 00:18:32.359 --> 00:18:34.799 In that six months, that athlete, they done paid 00:18:34.799 --> 00:18:37.700 for your coaching certification that you only 00:18:37.700 --> 00:18:40.720 got to pay for one time, so you done made your 00:18:40.720 --> 00:18:45.140 money back four times over than that. And you 00:18:45.140 --> 00:18:48.720 can't tell me, look me in the face and tell me 00:18:48.720 --> 00:18:52.390 that somebody's sitting at a computer, Just punching 00:18:52.390 --> 00:18:55.170 numbers into a computer, spitting it out on a 00:18:55.170 --> 00:18:59.089 spreadsheet and sending it to your watch deserves 00:18:59.089 --> 00:19:03.230 $150 an hour. Wait, hold on. I said $100. So 00:19:03.230 --> 00:19:07.230 $100 an hour just to do that. I mean, police 00:19:07.230 --> 00:19:09.829 officers don't make that much. Teachers don't 00:19:09.829 --> 00:19:12.309 make $100 an hour. These are people that are 00:19:12.309 --> 00:19:15.490 actually doing things for the betterment of the 00:19:15.490 --> 00:19:19.670 youth in the world. And that's the thing. I think. 00:19:21.900 --> 00:19:27.859 The world has a weird value on what professions 00:19:27.859 --> 00:19:31.660 cost what amount of money. You got professional 00:19:31.660 --> 00:19:34.059 athletes making millions of dollars to throw 00:19:34.059 --> 00:19:36.700 a ball in a hoop. You got actors making millions 00:19:36.700 --> 00:19:39.980 of dollars to stand and act. You got singers 00:19:39.980 --> 00:19:44.859 making, and it's because people pay for useless 00:19:44.859 --> 00:19:50.319 things all the time. Yeah, I said it. But why 00:19:50.319 --> 00:19:54.269 not? pay the person that's teaching your child 00:19:54.269 --> 00:19:58.990 something to develop or the person that's protecting 00:19:58.990 --> 00:20:02.390 your family and upholding the law those types 00:20:02.390 --> 00:20:06.230 of wages. So, no, I don't agree with the price 00:20:06.230 --> 00:20:11.269 of online coaches. Alright, next. High monthly 00:20:11.269 --> 00:20:15.150 fees with zero race day presence. So, you mean 00:20:15.150 --> 00:20:20.000 to tell me that you can justify charging a person 00:20:20.000 --> 00:20:23.740 that wants to do better, upwards of $300 a month, 00:20:23.819 --> 00:20:26.859 and you're not even coming to their race. If 00:20:26.859 --> 00:20:31.319 this person was with you for six months, at that 00:20:31.319 --> 00:20:35.539 price, they'd unpaid for your plane ticket and 00:20:35.539 --> 00:20:38.619 potentially your hotel for a one -night stay. 00:20:39.440 --> 00:20:42.180 You can't sit there and say you're coaching somebody 00:20:42.180 --> 00:20:46.539 if you're not really there. And add the fact 00:20:46.539 --> 00:20:50.920 that... How can you tell somebody what they need 00:20:50.920 --> 00:20:53.720 to work on as far as their running form and you're 00:20:53.720 --> 00:20:56.759 not at the track with them? Oh, well, we can 00:20:56.759 --> 00:20:59.880 put a phone and have them record their, what 00:20:59.880 --> 00:21:03.319 if they're only recording the first half of the 00:21:03.319 --> 00:21:05.920 workout before their form breaks down? You're 00:21:05.920 --> 00:21:08.720 not physically there to be able to give them 00:21:08.720 --> 00:21:11.819 a proper critique. So in that sense, you're no 00:21:11.819 --> 00:21:16.579 better than an AI coach. Next. Most of these 00:21:16.579 --> 00:21:19.380 online coaches, they have multiple athletes, 00:21:19.700 --> 00:21:24.099 which is cool. But how can they really say they 00:21:24.099 --> 00:21:27.059 are truly paying attention to your best interest? 00:21:27.240 --> 00:21:31.720 And then, to add insult to injury, if you go 00:21:31.720 --> 00:21:33.660 on a lot of these websites and stuff with these 00:21:33.660 --> 00:21:37.960 online coaches, they sit there and say, it's 00:21:37.960 --> 00:21:42.240 additional prices for a 15 -minute call. Like, 00:21:42.240 --> 00:21:47.009 come on, man. You can't sit there and charge 00:21:47.009 --> 00:21:51.450 a person this premium dollar and then tell them 00:21:51.450 --> 00:21:53.349 when they want to have a phone call with you 00:21:53.349 --> 00:21:57.690 that it's going to cost extra. I'm not saying 00:21:57.690 --> 00:22:01.009 all coaches do that. I'm just simply saying I've 00:22:01.009 --> 00:22:04.490 went on some of these popular websites and they're 00:22:04.490 --> 00:22:06.930 saying, hey, you're going to need to kick me 00:22:06.930 --> 00:22:08.670 a little bit of extra commission for me to sit 00:22:08.670 --> 00:22:11.349 on the phone and breathe and tell you something 00:22:11.349 --> 00:22:14.519 that you could probably just Google. Just think 00:22:14.519 --> 00:22:17.200 about this. If a coach is just reading your data 00:22:17.200 --> 00:22:19.740 and telling you what your watcher already knows, 00:22:19.980 --> 00:22:24.660 what are you really paying for? Now, I'm not 00:22:24.660 --> 00:22:27.980 saying there's no benefits to online running 00:22:27.980 --> 00:22:30.819 coaches at all. I'm just pointing out the cons. 00:22:31.480 --> 00:22:34.519 And these same online running coaches that have 00:22:34.519 --> 00:22:38.400 podcast platforms, they're quick to crap on apps 00:22:38.400 --> 00:22:41.819 like Runner and Hal Higdon and all these things. 00:22:42.539 --> 00:22:45.500 give you all the cons to using those. So it's 00:22:45.500 --> 00:22:50.240 fair game. I'm not saying being self -coached 00:22:50.240 --> 00:22:54.599 is the best. I'm not saying AI training is the 00:22:54.599 --> 00:22:57.579 best. I'm not saying having an online coach is 00:22:57.579 --> 00:23:00.940 the best. What I'm saying is everybody's situation 00:23:00.940 --> 00:23:07.140 is different. Too often, the masses are telling 00:23:07.140 --> 00:23:11.519 people that's looking for guidance, you need 00:23:11.519 --> 00:23:16.619 to have a coach. You need to come join our program. 00:23:16.799 --> 00:23:20.359 And I just don't think that's necessary. And 00:23:20.359 --> 00:23:23.779 for the people out there that don't have a coach 00:23:23.779 --> 00:23:26.099 and just starting out and you want to improve, 00:23:26.400 --> 00:23:29.839 just show up when you're supposed to. Be that 00:23:29.839 --> 00:23:33.099 guy. Be the hardest worker in the room. And you're 00:23:33.099 --> 00:23:35.920 going to progress. You don't need any fancy equipment, 00:23:36.160 --> 00:23:39.079 anything. You just got to have the heart and 00:23:39.079 --> 00:23:41.940 the will to succeed. And you will succeed. I 00:23:41.940 --> 00:23:46.359 promise you. Knowledge is power, folks. Go out. 00:23:46.420 --> 00:23:49.559 Don't be afraid to do your own research. Like 00:23:49.559 --> 00:23:53.119 they say, you give a man a fish, you feed him 00:23:53.119 --> 00:23:56.599 for a day. You teach a man a fish, you feed him 00:23:56.599 --> 00:24:00.960 for a lifetime. Same thing. If we always rely 00:24:00.960 --> 00:24:04.000 on somebody else or something else to teach us, 00:24:04.140 --> 00:24:07.519 we're never going to meet our potential and never 00:24:07.519 --> 00:24:10.940 going to go the places we can go. You got to 00:24:10.940 --> 00:24:13.799 become self -sufficient, like with anything in 00:24:13.799 --> 00:24:17.519 life. Thank you for listening. I'm out.