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Hello, in the Crown of Aragon 639 years ago,

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it was February 23rd 1387. My name is Jonathan

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Seyfried. I'm a PhD candidate in history at the

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University of New Mexico and this is the Historian's

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Notebook, a podcast about how history gets made.

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Season 1 is titled Molt Cara Companyona. We're

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looking at a document from each day of the first

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year of the reign of King Joan I of Aragon and

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Queen Violant de Bar. Let's begin today's

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document. There's so much to talk about with

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today's document and I've got a noisy shadow

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cat here with me For today's recording. So we'll

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see how this yep. There she is. We'll see how

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this goes Okay so this document is from the secret

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seal register of Joan and In this document,

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Joan is writing another safe conduct message.

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So we saw this for a minstrel a few episodes

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back. I think we, oh yeah, we also saw it in

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the pair of episodes where the outgoing copy

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had actually come back to the Crown of Aragon

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and it had that red wax seal on it. So I'm going

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to link to both of those episodes in the web

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page for today's. Now, there's a very revealing

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AI usage lesson with today's document. It was

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just yesterday that I was singing the praises

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of Gemini, but then I think it was yesterday's

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episode when I also said that in the fall Gemini

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had been dramatic with some of its hallucinations

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and I thought that that was done but in the transcript

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of my Gemini chat conversation You will be able

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to see how in certain moments with the paleography

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Gemini was trying to tell me that I was wrong

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and it was sounding really persistent and I Did

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some extra research because I was like, well,

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maybe I was kind of like doubting myself But

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then as I was working on it, I was like no this

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there's just no way that Gemini can be right

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about this And so before I get into the source

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information and the content more deeply with

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this particular document, I'm going to point

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out the AI usage issue. And goodness, this is

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one of those days when I feel like this episode

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could be 90 minutes because there's so much juicy

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stuff being referred to in the document itself,

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and then also in regards to the person who's

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receiving this safe conduct letter. All right,

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but we'll have to just be concise. And first,

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the paleographical issue. You'll notice that

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in the second line of the second folio of this

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document so one kind of an annoying and confusing

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thing is that the scribes decided that they needed

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to put two lines of this document on the bottom

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of folio 15 R and then continue with the bulk

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of the document on folio 15v. I had had this

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theory earlier in the podcast that the scribes

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were intentional about trying to fit things on

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the amount of space on the page, and so it's

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a bit of a mystery to me why it would be so important

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to save that amount of paper but maybe they were

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just like hey if you can fit two lines on there

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fit two lines on there if you don't have a shorter

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letter to squeeze into that little bit then you're

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just gonna have to go on to the next page it's

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a really yeah I guess it kind of fits with my

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theory that they were always trying to conserve

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the paper but at the same time it's like why

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do you need to start a document with those just

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those two lines on the bottom of one page i guess

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it's you know conservation of paper obviously

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but i mean it's just an interesting severity

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in that ethos of the conservation of the paper

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to have just two lines on the previous folio.

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So really what we're paying attention to is folio

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15v because the information in those two lines

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at the bottom of the previous folio are just

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the usual introductory stuff from Joan. You

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know, this is Joan the king of all these realms

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and this document goes out to everybody who might

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see it. It's pretty boilerplate where it gets

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interesting is in the second line of folio 15

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v where about one two three four five words in

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we see a very clear name isabel isabel spelled

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with a Y at the beginning, which was actually

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quite common. In a lot of the Chancery documents,

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even about 100 years later, about the famous

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Isabella of Castile married to Ferdinand of Aragon

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and sponsor of Christopher Columbus, Isabel is

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often spelled with a Y. at the beginning instead

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of how it is now commonly rendered with the letter

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i so okay we have isabelis so the ending on that

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is a well i want to say it's a nominative but

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if you have an is at the end i don't think it

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would be so there's something about maybe it's

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in dative here I'm not going to go too deeply

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into the Latin grammar today because we've got

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a lot of other stuff to do. Let's just register

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the fact that I'm not sure on site at this point

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because I'm not as well practiced in Latin as

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others. All right, then we have day, so it's

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Isabella of. Then what it looks like to me is

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the letter M and then A I O R I C. and then there's

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a macron over, so I read this as Majoricem,

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it's Isabella of Majorca. I had not heard of

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Isabella of Majorca, and I think that has a lot

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to do with the fact that I start my focus when

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Joann's rain begins and in the 1380s when he

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is together with Violant and I don't really

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read too much before 1380. So that explains why

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I don't really know about Isabel of Mallorca

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when if I had been reading a lot about I guess

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you could say the early half of Pere the Ceremonious

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is reign I would definitely know about Isabella

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of Mallorca and I'll tell you why a little bit

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later but we're on the paleography piece now

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so I read that as an M and Gemini read that as

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an AR and that really surprised me and I pushed

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back and I said Gemini I just don't think that's

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an AR and it pushed back on me and said no you're

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making a mistake it actually called it a quote

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classic paleographical mistake. That I was making

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a classic paleographical misread when I insisted

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that that was the letter M and not an AR. And

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then it proceeded to use other examples in the

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document to try to convince me. And I said, wait

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a second, Gemini, look at your own transcription

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of the very last line that dating clause where

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there's the word for 1000, right? I think it's

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millisimo or millenio. Yeah, I mean, oh my gosh,

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my Latin. And it transcribed it as an M and that

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M looks the same as the M. that's in this second

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line just a slight tiny difference and eventually

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Gemini relented and then was able to clarify

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some information about who this person is but

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it really wanted me to believe that it was Isabella

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of Armagnac. There was an Isabella of Armagnac,

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but it's very easy on Wikipedia and just general

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Google searching to see that Isabella of Armagnac

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was not alive. She had died in I think it was

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like 1375, and so there's no way that she would

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need a safe conduct letter in 1387, you know,

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12 years after her death. So either Joan was

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writing for some kind of zombie Isabella, or

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maybe vampire, or Gemini was completely wrong.

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So I went over to chat GPT and was like, I don't

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think there's an Isabella of Armagnac and chat

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GPT had trouble with this. Like, why are you

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chat bots having so much trouble when you it's

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just so it's so clear even from Wikipedia that

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this person is not alive. And I asked about Isabella

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of Majorca, and ChatGPT had trouble with that,

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and Gemini initially had trouble with that, and

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I just was looking just on Wikipedia, and I found

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the Isabella of Majorca without all that much

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trouble. So this was a moment that is a really

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good demonstration of the problems with the AI

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chatbots at this time. That while Gemini did

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another fantastic job with transcribing the gothic

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secretarial hand, I mean its mistake with the

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letter M was really glaring, but I really shouldn't

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allow that to take over again saying that you

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know, basically it did great with most of the

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other words. I mean, even with abbreviations

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and things crossed out and so, you know, you

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just have to watch out for the glaring errors

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and don't let its authoritative tone push you

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around, right? Maybe we won't have this problem

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in the future, chatbots, but for now... we have

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this problem. And so, again, you cannot just

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turn over everything to the chatbots and whenever

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you're taking away some kind of conclusion based

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on what the chatbot gives you, it's got to be

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treated as a provisional conclusion unless you

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do some additional research to confirm it. Alright,

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let's go to the sourcing of this letter. So one

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of the really important things about this letter

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is that it's from Joan and not Père the Ceremonious.

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Père the Ceremonious held grudges and he was

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no fan of Isabella of Mallorca. Why? Because

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he was responsible for her father's death, and

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they don't get along. Her father was James III

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of Majorca, who rebelled against Pere the Ceremonious,

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wanting to keep Majorca as an independent kingdom

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and not as a part of the Crown of Aragon. Pere

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the Ceremonious defeated Isabella's father, and

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he died on the battlefield, right? And then she

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was actually captured and she was imprisoned

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for her teenage years in Valencia and she was

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only freed at the age of about 20 when she agreed

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to renounce her claim to any rule over Mallorca.

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So at that point in 1358 she was let out of jail

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and then she got married and She just kind of

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bopped around like doing a bunch of different

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diplomatic things along with her husband But

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the real story in terms of conflict Conflict

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with Pere the ceremonious and crown of Aragon

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is with her brother So when her brother got old

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enough he James the fourth tried to once again

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fight for the independence of the island of Mallorca

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and he actually led an invasion of Roussillon

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which is the province that's today in the southwest

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of France so sort of like around Montpellier

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so and Perpignan to be more exact i think so

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James the fourth he tried to get Majorca back

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for their family, and he also did not succeed.

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He ended up dying, some say, in Isabella's arms.

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I think as the result of the strain of war, I

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don't think it was a battle injury, but I think

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because of what he was doing, somehow Yeah, maybe

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it was a battle injury or some kind of illness

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that he contracted when he was fighting I can't

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remember exactly but anyway drama he died in

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her arms now Now James IV of Majorca had was

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involved in some other drama in the time period

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of like the 1370s early 1370s because he married

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Joanna of Naples who was a really fascinating

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powerful woman of the mid 14th century and one

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of the conditions of the marriage was that James

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the fourth would have no governance over Naples

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and the crown of Aragon also had a claim to Naples

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that Joanna was fighting off but not it was as

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much of a threat as from other places like weirdly

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Hungary had a claim to rule over Naples so that

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was just oh it's so convoluted but it's a great

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story so if you can read that book by Elizabeth

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Casteen titled From She -Wolf to Martyr about

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Joanna the First of Naples you will not be disappointed

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it's such a really interesting story of intrigue

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and power and a medieval woman who was just a

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fascinating test case for how far you can push

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it for a woman to rule in this time period on

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her own, like in defiance of a lot of the men.

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around. So that's super interesting. And then

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Joanna of Naples spent a lot of time in Avignon

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and was trying to curry the favor of Pope Clement

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VII in Avignon. Oh gosh, I hope I got that number

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right because I'm like, is it the sixth? No,

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it's the seventh. So when Violant is writing

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to the Pope in Avignon, she's maybe continuing

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a kind of pattern. that Joanna had set up where

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basically there's a lot of activity from the

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queens in conversation with the pope. I don't

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know, that might be a bit of a stretch in terms

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of the context. So all right, Isabella of Majorca

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was not a friend of Pere the Ceremonious. He

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probably didn't care if she just kind of, you

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know, did stuff. elsewhere and didn't want to

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deal with her. But then Joan takes over and

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he's more friendly and you can tell in this he's

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writing this safe conduct letter which seems

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you know kind of generous and and why is it generous?

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It's generous because he's saying that no one

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can collect on her debts basically. So He specifies

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that she's got this big retinue, and we'll talk

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about the size of that retinue in just a moment.

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But he says that no one is allowed to take anything

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from her. I know, no one. And all of her creditors,

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like Shadow is playing the creditors, being mad.

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Why? Because she owed a ton of money. So by this

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time... Isabella of Mallorca was like really

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broke and like trying to get money from all which

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way places and she was being chased by her creditors

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actually so this safe conduct note is very nice

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to her because it basically makes it so that

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if her creditors find her They're not allowed

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to collect from her while she's traveling around

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in the lands ruled by Joan. So with the context

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in mind, we can see that Joan was being actually

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very nice to Isabella of Majorca. Not quite sure

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why. That's one of the questions I have. Like,

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why was Joan so much more friendly? You don't

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have to be. I mean, what was to be gained? Maybe

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it was just like anything his father did, he

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just kind of wanted to go the other direction.

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I don't know. Let's talk about the retinue. So

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in the, let's see, one, two, three, four, five,

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six, seven, eight. Seventh line of folio 15V,

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we can see it's crossed out. There was this,

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in the end. after the cross out the equitum,

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so horses, okay? So the retinue had 60 horses,

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sexaginta, and then they crossed it out and then

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above it they wrote centum, a hundred, and then

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they crossed that out and went back to 60. What

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is going on here? How is this happening that

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there's this back and forth about the number

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of horses in Isabella of Majorca's retinue? Are

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they getting updates about the information? Who

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is making the correction? Why is someone noticing,

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oh, it's not 60, it's 100? Why does it really

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matter how many there are I mean it does because

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if you show up with a with a hundred and you're

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only protected for 60 the people trying to collect

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and you'll be like well, you're over what it

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says in your document and so We're gonna take

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your extra 40 horses and the horses might represent

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Actually people and parts of the revenue and

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the treasure they have on them. So there's there

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is a lot to unpack with just that question of

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why there was a correction that needed to be

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made and before we wrap up this episode there's

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one more thing we need to talk about there is

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a little note that was added to the bottom of

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this one a little while later and it's a case

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where in this situation I've been trashing Gemini

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quite a lot but here Gemini really came through

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and it's again with the letter M so it's so funny

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because I was correctly recognizing the letter

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M and Gemini was getting it wrong in the document

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itself but this little added note below the document

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I oh my gosh the scribe just really I really

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just did a number on the letter M. Alright, so

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the second line of that little note that's been

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added on, you might be able to identify, well,

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what looks like the third word from the end.

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And that has an A -D -I. You could maybe argue

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that that's like a Y, but it's an I. A -D -I.

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So, odd -y. And then before that, that, folks,

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is the letter M. I know, Shadow, it's distressing

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because it doesn't look like an M at all. But

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what happened there was the scribe, and it's

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maybe the same scribe because we have Idem as

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the probata, but later on that scribe came back

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or another scribe came in and wrote this note

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saying something about May, I know. Shadow has

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a lot to say about this. Well, it's an extension.

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So what happened was that this original document

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said the safe conduct for Isabella of Majorca

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goes until the end of April. And she needed more

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time and she was granted it. And so they gave

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her an extension. through the end of May to have

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safe conduct through all of the realms. I know

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Shadow's really excited that Isabella of Mallorca

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got an extension. She just can't stop talking

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about it. I know! Shadow! She's really just over

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the top. I mean, I don't know what connection

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you have to or you have to Isabella of Mallorca,

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Shadow, but maybe Isabella of Mallorca was in

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some kind of a jam and she really needed that

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extra time and she got that extension and it

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made a big difference and now she's reincarnated

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as Shadow and that's why Shadow's making a lot

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of noise right now. Just one theory. Alright,

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thanks for listening to this episode of the Historian's

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Notebook, Season 1, Molt Cara Companyona. If

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you are leaving with more questions than you

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arrived with, like, why did Isabella need to

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journey around in the Crown of Aragon anyway?

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I don't know. Well, if you have questions like

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that, I've done my job. Because remember, the

00:25:04.730 --> 00:25:08.829
motto of the Historian's Notebook is, dissatisfaction

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guaranteed. Visit the website to see an image

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of today's document and additional show notes,

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including links to the Wikipedia pages for Isabella

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of Mallorca and her brother James IV. And listen

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again tomorrow to hear about the next day in

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the first year of the reign of King Joan of Aragon

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and Queen Violant de Bar. In the meantime, take

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care.
