WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.819 Hi, everyone. This is Terrie Carr. You may know 00:00:02.819 --> 00:00:05.700 me from my radio days and, of course, my new 00:00:05.700 --> 00:00:09.279 Carr Stereo podcast. And I am so excited to be 00:00:09.279 --> 00:00:12.400 on my weekly mixtape with my good friend Brian 00:00:12.400 --> 00:00:15.080 Colburn talking about music. Brian's one of the 00:00:15.080 --> 00:00:17.300 best guys to talk about music to. He always gets 00:00:17.300 --> 00:00:20.339 my brain working a little bit. So super excited 00:00:20.339 --> 00:00:23.260 to be on the podcast. And I hope you guys enjoy 00:00:23.260 --> 00:00:36.979 it. What is going on, friends? Welcome to My 00:00:36.979 --> 00:00:39.380 Weekly Mixtape, the show that takes the classic 00:00:39.380 --> 00:00:42.479 mixtape approach to building a modern playlist. 00:00:42.679 --> 00:00:45.000 I'm your host, Brian Colburn, and joining me 00:00:45.000 --> 00:00:48.240 tonight is someone who I consider to be New Jersey, 00:00:48.380 --> 00:00:52.420 New York rock, radio royalty, and someone who 00:00:52.420 --> 00:00:55.859 sets the interview bar at heights that I aim 00:00:55.859 --> 00:00:58.500 to achieve each and every week here on My Weekly 00:00:58.500 --> 00:01:01.359 Mixtape. So it's my absolute honor to welcome 00:01:01.359 --> 00:01:04.500 the one and only Terry Carr to the show. Thank 00:01:04.500 --> 00:01:07.299 you so much for being here tonight. Brian, thank 00:01:07.299 --> 00:01:11.099 you so much for having me. I'm a fan of you and 00:01:11.099 --> 00:01:14.959 your interviews. I love the podcast because I 00:01:14.959 --> 00:01:17.140 love to talk music and I love to hear when people 00:01:17.140 --> 00:01:19.239 are talking about music. So I'm totally into 00:01:19.239 --> 00:01:22.099 it. So I'm really honored that you're letting 00:01:22.099 --> 00:01:24.439 me be a guest. It's so weird that I'm a guest 00:01:24.439 --> 00:01:26.640 because I'm never a guest. I always have the 00:01:26.640 --> 00:01:28.980 guest. So it's like so strange, you know, to 00:01:28.980 --> 00:01:31.359 be kind of on the other side here. Well, then 00:01:31.359 --> 00:01:34.390 I am going to start with the basics here. Okay. 00:01:34.469 --> 00:01:39.010 What does the word mixtape mean to you? Oh, the 00:01:39.010 --> 00:01:41.269 word mixtape has a bunch of different meanings 00:01:41.269 --> 00:01:45.030 to me. It means to me being a little kid and 00:01:45.030 --> 00:01:49.390 taping my favorite songs off the radio. It also 00:01:49.390 --> 00:01:52.930 has a very romantic meaning because, you know, 00:01:52.969 --> 00:01:56.109 back in the day, if a guy that you liked made 00:01:56.109 --> 00:02:01.849 you a mixtape, I have mixtapes from many people. 00:02:02.329 --> 00:02:04.909 that I dated, which is like really fun and nice. 00:02:04.989 --> 00:02:08.030 So there's like a lot of very romantic connotations, 00:02:08.030 --> 00:02:10.030 you know, and not just because you dated people, 00:02:10.210 --> 00:02:13.729 but music is very romantic. So it takes me back 00:02:13.729 --> 00:02:16.509 to a place where there was just romance in everything, 00:02:16.689 --> 00:02:18.969 if that makes any sense. Oh, it makes total sense. 00:02:19.110 --> 00:02:21.490 And what a perfect segue into tonight's topic, 00:02:21.610 --> 00:02:24.830 because we are going to be talking about post 00:02:24.830 --> 00:02:30.150 -2000 power ballads tonight. Ooh, okay. When 00:02:30.150 --> 00:02:34.530 I hear people discuss power ballads, it usually 00:02:34.530 --> 00:02:39.629 veers straight to that late 80s, put your lighters 00:02:39.629 --> 00:02:44.569 in the air motif. Yes. But at its core, a power 00:02:44.569 --> 00:02:49.330 ballad is a slow, heavy, anthemic rock song. 00:02:49.409 --> 00:02:52.689 That never went away. Yet the term itself, to 00:02:52.689 --> 00:02:57.389 me at least, feels frozen, kind of in the 80s. 00:02:58.000 --> 00:03:00.500 How do you think power ballads evolved over the 00:03:00.500 --> 00:03:04.120 last few decades? Well, power ballads are always 00:03:04.120 --> 00:03:08.000 very emotionally charged. They're not always 00:03:08.000 --> 00:03:11.659 down tempo. Some of them are kind of like a mid 00:03:11.659 --> 00:03:16.539 down tempo. And I think the evolution has changed 00:03:16.539 --> 00:03:20.560 from, you know, dare I say it, screwing your 00:03:20.560 --> 00:03:25.430 favorite person to mental health issues. loss, 00:03:25.550 --> 00:03:29.009 not just love loss, but losing a friend or losing 00:03:29.009 --> 00:03:31.550 a parent. I think that as artists evolve and 00:03:31.550 --> 00:03:34.050 get older, you're starting to experience more 00:03:34.050 --> 00:03:36.509 death in your life and less sex, drugs and rock 00:03:36.509 --> 00:03:41.729 and roll. So divorce, maybe losing a parent, 00:03:41.789 --> 00:03:44.530 a child or something. So a lot of the power ballads, 00:03:44.569 --> 00:03:46.629 I think, as artists get older and decades move 00:03:46.629 --> 00:03:51.969 on, change. And I also think that there's a different 00:03:51.969 --> 00:03:55.780 connotation. around mental health these days. 00:03:55.819 --> 00:03:59.439 So you will see a lot of the post 2000 power 00:03:59.439 --> 00:04:03.819 ballads starting to get some sprinklings in of 00:04:03.819 --> 00:04:06.139 when people are going through struggles. And 00:04:06.139 --> 00:04:08.860 I think that that's really come to the forefront 00:04:08.860 --> 00:04:12.460 in the modern day powered ballad for sure. Yeah, 00:04:12.479 --> 00:04:14.840 I'd have to agree. I don't remember a lot of 00:04:14.840 --> 00:04:18.439 that being touched on in the late 80s, except 00:04:18.439 --> 00:04:23.110 for the far extreme of. suicide like ozzy osbourne 00:04:23.110 --> 00:04:25.649 and lita for close my eyes forever or kicks uh 00:04:25.649 --> 00:04:28.629 don't close your eyes but the actual mental health 00:04:28.629 --> 00:04:32.629 part of it was almost taboo even during the hairband 00:04:32.629 --> 00:04:35.810 era because it didn't fit the sex drugs excess 00:04:35.810 --> 00:04:39.110 and rock and roll vibe it was almost that era's 00:04:39.110 --> 00:04:41.550 kryptonite in a sense especially for men like 00:04:41.550 --> 00:04:44.670 men never talked about mental health it was something 00:04:44.670 --> 00:04:47.800 that nobody ever spoke about And now it seems 00:04:47.800 --> 00:04:50.980 to be just a lot more commonplace. So I think 00:04:50.980 --> 00:04:54.839 that the evolution of music as a whole has embraced 00:04:54.839 --> 00:04:57.620 this sort of different box that wasn't there 00:04:57.620 --> 00:05:01.420 before. Well, before we start mapping out our 00:05:01.420 --> 00:05:04.939 collective post 2000 power ballads, I'd like 00:05:04.939 --> 00:05:06.980 to give a quick shout out to a few of the Patreon 00:05:06.980 --> 00:05:10.120 mixtapers who chimed in with songs they feel. 00:05:10.649 --> 00:05:13.129 should be on our radar this evening. And for 00:05:13.129 --> 00:05:14.810 those out there listening, if you'd like to be 00:05:14.810 --> 00:05:17.009 a part of that conversation, you could do so 00:05:17.009 --> 00:05:20.670 over at patreon .com forward slash my weekly 00:05:20.670 --> 00:05:24.329 mixtape. First off, Chad LaMassa chimed in with 00:05:24.329 --> 00:05:27.550 the bruised power ballad. And yes, that's actually 00:05:27.550 --> 00:05:31.870 a term for a subgenre of power ballads. I didn't 00:05:31.870 --> 00:05:34.730 know that. I like that. I like that a lot. That's 00:05:34.730 --> 00:05:37.459 Chad. Yeah, I never heard that term before, but 00:05:37.459 --> 00:05:40.139 I had to do some digging on it. Me neither. Go, 00:05:40.319 --> 00:05:42.519 Chad. I did not know this. How did I not know 00:05:42.519 --> 00:05:44.899 this in all my years in radio? Chad is the freaking 00:05:44.899 --> 00:05:48.360 man. Yeah, bruised power ballads are, and I quote, 00:05:48.600 --> 00:05:52.360 lyrically more intimate, vulnerable, or often 00:05:52.360 --> 00:05:55.839 self -destructive versus the traditional ballad 00:05:55.839 --> 00:05:58.529 rooted in romance or breakup. Wait, Brian, I 00:05:58.529 --> 00:06:00.529 may hit you up after for that because I may want 00:06:00.529 --> 00:06:03.290 to write all that down. That is very impressive. 00:06:03.550 --> 00:06:06.110 Chad, good for you. See, I learn something every 00:06:06.110 --> 00:06:09.430 day. And the song he chose was Sorry For It All 00:06:09.430 --> 00:06:13.689 by Dead Sarah. Oh, I love that song. Oh, Dead 00:06:13.689 --> 00:06:16.790 Sarah is incredible. And I know Chad and I have 00:06:16.790 --> 00:06:19.470 had many conversations about this because he's 00:06:19.470 --> 00:06:22.730 a bit concerned because of Emily Armstrong's 00:06:22.730 --> 00:06:25.209 association with Linkin Park now that Dead Sarah 00:06:25.209 --> 00:06:28.850 might not. be anymore. And I keep telling them, 00:06:28.850 --> 00:06:31.569 hold out hope. They never got what they deserve. 00:06:31.810 --> 00:06:33.709 They really, really never got as a band what 00:06:33.709 --> 00:06:35.449 they deserve. But I remember people telling me 00:06:35.449 --> 00:06:36.490 they're going to be huge. They're going to be 00:06:36.490 --> 00:06:37.730 huge. They're going to be huge. And there were 00:06:37.730 --> 00:06:40.410 just so many mountains that they had to climb 00:06:40.410 --> 00:06:43.889 and it just never, never happened. And such a 00:06:43.889 --> 00:06:46.730 great, great band. And I think when Linkin Park 00:06:46.730 --> 00:06:48.610 has downtime, I have a feeling they're going 00:06:48.610 --> 00:06:50.649 to finally get there just due. Yeah, she'd be 00:06:50.649 --> 00:06:53.949 crazy not to. Yeah. Sean Goff chimed in with 00:06:53.949 --> 00:06:57.470 Butch Walker's aptly titled mixtape, Love Me 00:06:57.470 --> 00:07:00.290 Some Butch Walker. And Tom Hutchinson chimed 00:07:00.290 --> 00:07:02.250 in with a pair of tunes, so I guess one lighter 00:07:02.250 --> 00:07:04.990 in each hand for this one, Hinder's Lips of an 00:07:04.990 --> 00:07:09.629 Angel and Buck Cherry's Sorry. Oh, a little Buck 00:07:09.629 --> 00:07:13.610 Cherry power ballad. I love that. And for those 00:07:13.610 --> 00:07:15.110 out there listening, once again, if you want 00:07:15.110 --> 00:07:17.189 to chime in on future My Weekly Mixtape episodes, 00:07:17.269 --> 00:07:20.550 you could do so at patreon .com forward slash. 00:07:21.120 --> 00:07:25.040 my weekly mixtape. All right, Terry, I'm going 00:07:25.040 --> 00:07:27.540 to turn the mic over to you. What is the first 00:07:27.540 --> 00:07:30.180 song that comes to your mind when you think about 00:07:30.180 --> 00:07:35.639 post -2000 power ballads and why? I try to give 00:07:35.639 --> 00:07:39.259 a little different list. I try to sort of think 00:07:39.259 --> 00:07:42.120 of some of the power ballads that maybe people 00:07:42.120 --> 00:07:46.240 didn't think of top of mind. And I'm going to 00:07:46.240 --> 00:07:48.779 start with one of my favorite bands of all time, 00:07:48.839 --> 00:07:53.259 and that is Seven Dust. Oh. An angel's son. Now, 00:07:53.300 --> 00:07:56.620 2001 was when they released it on Animosity, 00:07:56.620 --> 00:07:59.519 so it could be a little gray area here. Written 00:07:59.519 --> 00:08:03.879 by LJ, LeJean Witherspoon, and Clint Lowry, mourning 00:08:03.879 --> 00:08:08.639 the death of the lead vocalist of a band called 00:08:08.639 --> 00:08:11.939 Snot. if you remember. And there was a tribute 00:08:11.939 --> 00:08:15.300 album that actually came out to Lynn Strait of 00:08:15.300 --> 00:08:19.459 Snot before that. And then all of a sudden, these 00:08:19.459 --> 00:08:22.620 guys decided to put it on their record. And it 00:08:22.620 --> 00:08:24.819 was a big hit for Seven Dust. I mean, I remember 00:08:24.819 --> 00:08:27.220 when Seven Dust got signed, TVT, they were this 00:08:27.220 --> 00:08:29.800 wild metal band. A couple of my friends worked 00:08:29.800 --> 00:08:31.660 for TVT Records and said, you've got to check 00:08:31.660 --> 00:08:33.899 this band out. They are just like the new face. 00:08:34.690 --> 00:08:37.690 They were one of the first new metal bands and 00:08:37.690 --> 00:08:39.350 one of the most amazing new metal bands. And 00:08:39.350 --> 00:08:43.269 then we get this song from them. And LJ has a 00:08:43.269 --> 00:08:45.710 whole different vocal approach on this song. 00:08:45.850 --> 00:08:49.110 So I was able to actually hear his his ebbing 00:08:49.110 --> 00:08:52.789 and flowing and all of his singing. And this 00:08:52.789 --> 00:08:55.929 is just a really special song for me and a really 00:08:55.929 --> 00:08:58.049 special song when you see the band in concert, 00:08:58.110 --> 00:09:01.250 because as wild and amped up as the crowd is, 00:09:01.330 --> 00:09:04.950 then they do Angel's Son. And you can hear a 00:09:04.950 --> 00:09:08.490 pin drop and everybody just stops. And I think 00:09:08.490 --> 00:09:12.190 the band that can get you on 25 and then get 00:09:12.190 --> 00:09:15.149 you to just hear a pin drop and listen to every 00:09:15.149 --> 00:09:17.649 word and feel it and people are crying and it 00:09:17.649 --> 00:09:19.629 reminds them all of somebody that they've lost. 00:09:20.289 --> 00:09:24.509 It's a very impactful moment. So that song, I 00:09:24.509 --> 00:09:28.169 think, should always be at the upper list of 00:09:28.169 --> 00:09:31.870 the post -2000 power ballads. I immediately think 00:09:31.870 --> 00:09:34.450 of that original video with the members of Snot 00:09:34.450 --> 00:09:36.049 when they were sitting on the beach. That was 00:09:36.049 --> 00:09:39.429 for the Straight Up album. That came out my senior 00:09:39.429 --> 00:09:41.649 year in college, right at the tail end of me 00:09:41.649 --> 00:09:44.750 leaving college radio. Everybody sitting on the 00:09:44.750 --> 00:09:48.049 beach, jamming that song in eulogy. I get goosebumps 00:09:48.049 --> 00:09:50.950 just talking about it. Yeah, the video is incredible. 00:09:51.230 --> 00:09:54.649 Just absolutely incredible. The band wasn't really, 00:09:54.690 --> 00:09:58.169 nobody was sure what to do. you know, with that 00:09:58.169 --> 00:10:01.029 song or with that video, LJ kind of said, you 00:10:01.029 --> 00:10:03.250 know, we were coming up and we didn't really 00:10:03.250 --> 00:10:05.669 know that many people who died, you know, died 00:10:05.669 --> 00:10:09.350 in a car accident. So it was unexpected. And 00:10:09.350 --> 00:10:15.029 the emotion in that is just, just crazy. Unbelievable. 00:10:15.029 --> 00:10:17.049 And then obviously the version from animosity 00:10:17.049 --> 00:10:18.950 where they bring the string section in and they 00:10:18.950 --> 00:10:22.210 really put the seven dust sound on it. Now, to 00:10:22.210 --> 00:10:24.509 me, this introduced people to a whole different 00:10:24.509 --> 00:10:27.669 side of seven dust because the closest songs 00:10:27.669 --> 00:10:30.830 you can find on their first two albums to Angel's 00:10:30.830 --> 00:10:35.009 Son were maybe, and I'm really going out on a 00:10:35.009 --> 00:10:37.929 limb here, My Ruin from the self -titled had 00:10:37.929 --> 00:10:40.990 a bit of a mid -tempo vibe, but it was still 00:10:40.990 --> 00:10:44.710 heavy as hell. And then if you even want to count 00:10:44.710 --> 00:10:47.769 Insecure, which was just a one -minute interlude 00:10:47.769 --> 00:10:53.529 on Home, this showed people the depth that Seven 00:10:53.529 --> 00:10:56.889 Dust had. I don't think you would have ever gotten 00:10:56.889 --> 00:11:01.129 the acoustic tours or the acoustic album if it 00:11:01.129 --> 00:11:03.750 wasn't for Angel's Son opening up that dynamic 00:11:03.750 --> 00:11:07.110 of this band. Yeah, yeah. And a big hit for them. 00:11:07.230 --> 00:11:10.909 I think it went to number 11 on the charts. And 00:11:10.909 --> 00:11:14.190 that was a big deal at that time because music 00:11:14.190 --> 00:11:17.529 was kind of sounding the same -ish. And those 00:11:17.529 --> 00:11:20.029 metal bands were not really charting, you know, 00:11:20.049 --> 00:11:23.409 like they are now or like they can now. So that 00:11:23.409 --> 00:11:26.700 was a big moment. For Seven Dust, for sure. So 00:11:26.700 --> 00:11:29.220 huge stuff. Love that song. Love, love, love 00:11:29.220 --> 00:11:33.740 it. I'm going to stay in this vibe. A little 00:11:33.740 --> 00:11:36.779 bit of a darker way to start here. Because when 00:11:36.779 --> 00:11:38.799 we started this episode, we talked about how 00:11:38.799 --> 00:11:41.639 bands were opening up and being more vulnerable 00:11:41.639 --> 00:11:44.639 post -2000. Something you didn't get in the 80s. 00:11:44.679 --> 00:11:47.360 And I mentioned Ozzy Osbourne and Lita Ford's 00:11:47.360 --> 00:11:50.340 Close My Eyes Forever and Kix's Don't Close Your 00:11:50.340 --> 00:11:52.799 Eyes. Those were two that really jumped out to 00:11:52.799 --> 00:11:56.269 me during that age. of songs that I hadn't heard 00:11:56.269 --> 00:12:01.389 that touched on such serious topics. And I'm 00:12:01.389 --> 00:12:03.590 going to go with something from Papa Roach that 00:12:03.590 --> 00:12:08.450 came out in 2022 on their album Ego Trip, which 00:12:08.450 --> 00:12:10.490 I'm going to piss some people off when I say 00:12:10.490 --> 00:12:14.029 this, because I know everybody immediately thinks 00:12:14.029 --> 00:12:17.070 Infest. And I had a chance to meet Papa Roach 00:12:17.070 --> 00:12:19.289 when they were touring that album, opening up 00:12:19.289 --> 00:12:21.470 for Eminem and Limp Bizkit as the opening act 00:12:21.470 --> 00:12:24.990 on that tour. Ego Trip might be my favorite Papa 00:12:24.990 --> 00:12:27.909 Roach album ever. It feels like they took all 00:12:27.909 --> 00:12:31.470 of their eras over two decades and just honed 00:12:31.470 --> 00:12:33.509 it all in. And they brought little pieces of 00:12:33.509 --> 00:12:36.309 everywhere they've been musically. I agree. I 00:12:36.309 --> 00:12:38.509 agree. I think Jacoby agrees with that too. He 00:12:38.509 --> 00:12:40.970 felt that this was one of the best, if not the 00:12:40.970 --> 00:12:43.490 best record that they made as a band. I think 00:12:43.490 --> 00:12:46.809 there's everything. I often say this. It's everything 00:12:46.809 --> 00:12:50.610 we love about Papa Roach. Those impactful lyrics. 00:12:51.500 --> 00:12:55.159 that Papa Roach energy. And all right, so name 00:12:55.159 --> 00:12:56.679 your song. I know what you're going to pick, 00:12:56.700 --> 00:12:58.480 but name your song. I'm going to go with Leave 00:12:58.480 --> 00:13:01.440 a Light On. How could you not? It's probably 00:13:01.440 --> 00:13:05.159 the biggest and the best that we got in this 00:13:05.159 --> 00:13:08.440 era. I thought about going with Scars from 2004 00:13:08.440 --> 00:13:11.059 because that's more of the big power ballad, 00:13:11.059 --> 00:13:14.639 the love song. But coming out of Angel's Son, 00:13:14.740 --> 00:13:17.809 I feel like this is a fitting. Follow up to that. 00:13:17.929 --> 00:13:20.850 And a monster song for them. I mean, then Carrie 00:13:20.850 --> 00:13:24.450 Underwood came and cut a version. And again, 00:13:24.549 --> 00:13:28.269 it's one of those songs where when I saw P Roach 00:13:28.269 --> 00:13:31.009 at the Prudential Center. Incredible show. Were 00:13:31.009 --> 00:13:33.730 you there? Took the whole family. Spirit Box 00:13:33.730 --> 00:13:36.370 and Shine Down as well. What a show. Did you 00:13:36.370 --> 00:13:40.110 see when they were doing Last Resort and then 00:13:40.110 --> 00:13:42.470 Leave a Light On? It was exactly what I just 00:13:42.470 --> 00:13:45.490 said, where the whole place is on fire. And then 00:13:45.490 --> 00:13:49.399 all of a sudden. they're hanging on, you know, 00:13:49.419 --> 00:13:52.600 Jacoby's every word during leave a light on and 00:13:52.600 --> 00:13:55.460 the phones are up and the lighters are up. And 00:13:55.460 --> 00:13:58.820 it was a really intense moment. That was like 00:13:58.820 --> 00:14:01.620 some of the, one of the first times that I really 00:14:01.620 --> 00:14:04.899 started bonding with my oldest on music. Cause 00:14:04.899 --> 00:14:08.299 at the time they were both into the Taylor Swift's 00:14:08.299 --> 00:14:11.120 and whatever the pop stars were. And I've tried 00:14:11.120 --> 00:14:13.820 my best as a father to introduce them to as many 00:14:13.820 --> 00:14:16.940 bands as possible. I've taken them to see everything 00:14:16.940 --> 00:14:22.059 from Metallica to Blues Traveler to Lamb of God. 00:14:22.120 --> 00:14:24.720 The latter did not go over as well as I thought 00:14:24.720 --> 00:14:28.700 it would. Lucky kids. Holy crap. They are so 00:14:28.700 --> 00:14:30.960 lucky. I figured if anything, they're going to 00:14:30.960 --> 00:14:33.259 go off to college with a musical education and 00:14:33.259 --> 00:14:35.360 they could go on whatever musical path they want. 00:14:35.519 --> 00:14:37.940 But Leave a Light On was one of those moments 00:14:37.940 --> 00:14:42.320 that I think both my kids really felt music. 00:14:43.120 --> 00:14:45.100 And I think this is an important song to have 00:14:45.100 --> 00:14:48.039 on this just for the fact that it's such an important 00:14:48.039 --> 00:14:51.980 topic. Not everybody could be so big and strong 00:14:51.980 --> 00:14:55.080 and powerful in one song and then admit that 00:14:55.080 --> 00:14:58.200 we're all human and we all have our insecurities 00:14:58.200 --> 00:15:01.940 and our vulnerabilities and it's not weak to 00:15:01.940 --> 00:15:04.259 ask for help. And I think that's an important 00:15:04.259 --> 00:15:08.419 message in a post 2000 power ballad. Yeah, that's 00:15:08.419 --> 00:15:11.860 a special song. So that had to be on this list. 00:15:11.940 --> 00:15:13.480 And I'm really, really glad that you included 00:15:13.480 --> 00:15:15.879 it because some songs are great songs, but some 00:15:15.879 --> 00:15:18.659 songs are just like special where you go. This 00:15:18.659 --> 00:15:20.860 is a really special song. There's more happening. 00:15:20.940 --> 00:15:23.840 I call it purposeful music. You know, there's 00:15:23.840 --> 00:15:27.480 a purpose behind this song. And yeah, amazing, 00:15:27.679 --> 00:15:30.399 amazing, amazing choice. Absolutely had to be 00:15:30.399 --> 00:15:32.919 featured. All right, great. Is it my turn? Your 00:15:32.919 --> 00:15:35.220 turn next. We go back and forth here. All right. 00:15:35.240 --> 00:15:38.429 I have to give some of my ladies. you know, get 00:15:38.429 --> 00:15:40.470 some of my ladies on this list because I'm a 00:15:40.470 --> 00:15:45.210 big, big, big proponent of females in rock and 00:15:45.210 --> 00:15:47.789 roll, you know, really talented women. And Dorothy 00:15:47.789 --> 00:15:52.490 is on my list. Dorothy Martin, aka Dorothy. And 00:15:52.490 --> 00:15:55.889 I'm going to go with Rest in Peace. Nice. She 00:15:55.889 --> 00:15:59.509 came out with this song in 2022 from an album 00:15:59.509 --> 00:16:01.909 that I think is so criminally underrated called 00:16:01.909 --> 00:16:05.370 Gifts from the Holy Ghost. This song was written 00:16:05.370 --> 00:16:09.179 by Dorothy. Scott Stevens, who is an amazing 00:16:09.179 --> 00:16:11.679 songwriter and very good friend of mine. I got 00:16:11.679 --> 00:16:13.600 to tell Scott to listen to this. Scott writes 00:16:13.600 --> 00:16:17.399 for everybody and with everybody, Daughtry and 00:16:17.399 --> 00:16:20.059 Shinedown. I mean, like you named the band and 00:16:20.059 --> 00:16:23.220 Scott Stevens is somewhere. So he writes this 00:16:23.220 --> 00:16:25.980 also with a guy named Blair Daly and Zach Malloy, 00:16:26.000 --> 00:16:27.860 and they come up with Rest in Peace. But I remember 00:16:27.860 --> 00:16:30.840 Scott telling me, I couldn't imagine anybody 00:16:30.840 --> 00:16:34.120 else singing this song other than Dorothy. And 00:16:34.120 --> 00:16:36.059 I didn't really even know her that well, but 00:16:36.059 --> 00:16:38.720 I wanted her to sing this song. And there is 00:16:38.720 --> 00:16:41.960 something about it. She said it's a song that 00:16:41.960 --> 00:16:45.139 kind of rests her demons. I also think it's a 00:16:45.139 --> 00:16:47.980 song that can rest a bad relationship. One day 00:16:47.980 --> 00:16:51.720 I'll be dancing on your grave, taking it back, 00:16:51.899 --> 00:16:54.620 the life you stole. Now, you know, like it just 00:16:54.620 --> 00:16:58.759 the lyrics are so incredible. And it starts off. 00:16:59.950 --> 00:17:02.009 with her just kind of getting you into the song. 00:17:02.049 --> 00:17:04.750 And then the power of that ballad comes and then 00:17:04.750 --> 00:17:07.569 she takes it back. And it's storytelling, modern 00:17:07.569 --> 00:17:10.950 day power ballad storytelling at its finest. 00:17:11.009 --> 00:17:14.730 So Dorothy, rest in peace on my list. Is amen 00:17:14.730 --> 00:17:19.700 a good word to use to follow up that? The first 00:17:19.700 --> 00:17:24.160 time I heard the cadence in the chorus of hallelujah, 00:17:24.160 --> 00:17:28.940 I'm over you. Yeah. I was like, I am in, I am 00:17:28.940 --> 00:17:32.400 sold on this. Now to me, gifts from the Holy 00:17:32.400 --> 00:17:35.380 ghost was a bit of a musical pivot for Dorothy 00:17:35.380 --> 00:17:40.400 because rock is dead. Lead very indie rock. Then 00:17:40.400 --> 00:17:42.900 she had 28 days in the Valley, which was, she 00:17:42.900 --> 00:17:45.579 was like hippie trippy, you know, very organic 00:17:45.579 --> 00:17:49.390 kind of record. And that's what I love about 00:17:49.390 --> 00:17:52.210 her. You know, the common thread with all of 00:17:52.210 --> 00:17:56.089 her music is that incredible voice. Like that's 00:17:56.089 --> 00:17:58.269 the music. That's the instrument that you're 00:17:58.269 --> 00:18:00.430 listening to the most. She has a banging band. 00:18:01.329 --> 00:18:05.609 And yeah, she just surprises me all the time. 00:18:05.630 --> 00:18:07.490 You know, just when I think she's going to hear. 00:18:08.119 --> 00:18:11.339 She goes here and a true artist. She's a true 00:18:11.339 --> 00:18:13.339 artist. So I wanted to make sure she got some 00:18:13.339 --> 00:18:15.519 love on this list. Couldn't agree more. And I 00:18:15.519 --> 00:18:17.759 think everything she's done from gifts from the 00:18:17.759 --> 00:18:21.640 Holy ghost into the way signals where she's probably 00:18:21.640 --> 00:18:23.940 heading into the future. Cause I could just see 00:18:23.940 --> 00:18:27.559 her moving up the charts to be there with groups 00:18:27.559 --> 00:18:29.640 like the pretty reckless and hail storm who have 00:18:29.640 --> 00:18:32.359 made that leap to the next level. I hope so. 00:18:32.420 --> 00:18:35.140 Cause she deserves it. And I really want to see 00:18:35.140 --> 00:18:39.130 her. get there. She's a hard worker, too. I've 00:18:39.130 --> 00:18:41.609 seen her do stuff like where she's doing this 00:18:41.609 --> 00:18:43.250 and she's doing this and she's doing this. And 00:18:43.250 --> 00:18:45.309 she would be like, I'll come to the radio station, 00:18:45.529 --> 00:18:47.609 even though it's a show day for me. Like she 00:18:47.609 --> 00:18:51.809 works her ass off and really, really deserves 00:18:51.809 --> 00:18:53.950 it. I think she's the new breed of rock star 00:18:53.950 --> 00:18:57.420 and a quality artist through and through. Well, 00:18:57.440 --> 00:19:00.059 I think to follow her up, I'm going to stay with 00:19:00.059 --> 00:19:01.920 this female rock thing. As somebody with two 00:19:01.920 --> 00:19:04.299 daughters, I have to represent the ladies as 00:19:04.299 --> 00:19:08.200 well. Yes, yes. And this is a group that later 00:19:08.200 --> 00:19:10.559 this year, I bought the tickets a year in advance, 00:19:10.740 --> 00:19:13.839 but I will be taking my girls to see. And I can't 00:19:13.839 --> 00:19:18.099 wait because my father was the biggest ACDC fan. 00:19:18.259 --> 00:19:21.160 And in 2016, him and I went to go see them at 00:19:21.160 --> 00:19:23.420 MetLife. And I made a promise to him that night. 00:19:23.849 --> 00:19:27.490 that the next time ACDC came around, we would 00:19:27.490 --> 00:19:30.329 take the whole family. Now, unfortunately, my 00:19:30.329 --> 00:19:32.769 father is no longer with us, but he will be there 00:19:32.769 --> 00:19:37.109 in spirit. And I kept my promise. He will be 00:19:37.109 --> 00:19:39.730 there with us because I am taking the whole family 00:19:39.730 --> 00:19:43.950 to see ACDC. However, I am just as excited to 00:19:43.950 --> 00:19:45.869 see the opening act because it'll be the first 00:19:45.869 --> 00:19:49.509 time I get to see the Pretty Reckless live. And 00:19:49.509 --> 00:19:52.630 when it comes to power ballads, There are so 00:19:52.630 --> 00:19:54.869 many that I could choose from from their repertoire, 00:19:54.869 --> 00:19:56.670 but I'm going to go all the way back to their 00:19:56.670 --> 00:19:58.970 first album, Light Me Up, and go with a little 00:19:58.970 --> 00:20:01.690 bit of a deeper cut from them. And it's a song 00:20:01.690 --> 00:20:03.730 that I think is criminally underrated, should 00:20:03.730 --> 00:20:06.289 have been a massive hit. And it's the song that 00:20:06.289 --> 00:20:09.329 I discovered them on. And it's just tonight. 00:20:09.869 --> 00:20:12.390 And, you know, I get the fact that the way people 00:20:12.390 --> 00:20:15.609 are now with TMZ and everything else, that she's 00:20:15.609 --> 00:20:18.059 forever going to be followed by the fact. that 00:20:18.059 --> 00:20:20.339 she was the actress that played Cindy Lou Who 00:20:20.339 --> 00:20:23.559 in How the Grinch Stole Christmas, as well as 00:20:23.559 --> 00:20:26.539 her role on Gossip Girl, and she's the quote 00:20:26.539 --> 00:20:29.539 -unquote actress -turned -musician. But to me, 00:20:29.599 --> 00:20:33.539 she's purely a musician. Yes, I understand she 00:20:33.539 --> 00:20:35.359 can act, and I understand the stuff she's done, 00:20:35.559 --> 00:20:38.559 but I discovered her more through her music than 00:20:38.559 --> 00:20:40.359 I did through her roles in television and in 00:20:40.359 --> 00:20:44.240 movies. Because at the end of the day, she slays 00:20:44.240 --> 00:20:46.700 it, and she's got a bit of a bluesiness to her 00:20:46.700 --> 00:20:50.619 voice. that comes out in this heavier rock, but 00:20:50.619 --> 00:20:53.380 she could do a collaboration with Warren Haynes 00:20:53.380 --> 00:20:56.079 on an album, but then bring this darker edge 00:20:56.079 --> 00:20:58.680 to the spectrum where it's almost in this Soundgarden 00:20:58.680 --> 00:21:01.480 vein. I know she toured with them. Kind of like 00:21:01.480 --> 00:21:03.640 Dorothy, there's a little bit of a spectrum of 00:21:03.640 --> 00:21:07.099 music that she brings to this band that's not 00:21:07.099 --> 00:21:10.500 pigeonholed anywhere. But just tonight is that 00:21:10.500 --> 00:21:13.619 punch -you -in -the -face power ballad. And I 00:21:13.619 --> 00:21:15.119 get that we're staying on a little bit of these 00:21:15.119 --> 00:21:17.559 darker tones like we did with Seven Dust and 00:21:17.559 --> 00:21:20.380 Papa Roach and Dorothy. But here, this is a song 00:21:20.380 --> 00:21:22.819 about a tormented relationship, a breakup. I 00:21:22.819 --> 00:21:25.099 can't tell. Maybe there was a car crash involved. 00:21:25.359 --> 00:21:28.039 But the vocal delivery is what I'm focused on 00:21:28.039 --> 00:21:31.359 here. She delivers it in almost this more bluesy, 00:21:31.359 --> 00:21:34.559 even almost in a dare I use the word sexy way. 00:21:34.640 --> 00:21:36.660 She's trying to deliver this pain and torment. 00:21:36.880 --> 00:21:39.539 It kind of brings back a little bit of that 80s 00:21:39.539 --> 00:21:42.319 ethos. And I think it just works really well. 00:21:42.960 --> 00:21:45.000 Coming out of some of the darker tones that we've 00:21:45.000 --> 00:21:47.700 talked about already tonight. And I think on 00:21:47.700 --> 00:21:51.660 that record, they needed that song to give that 00:21:51.660 --> 00:21:54.700 record the diversity that she gives that band. 00:21:55.220 --> 00:21:58.440 So, yeah, there's so many great. You know what 00:21:58.440 --> 00:22:00.720 other song I love from them, too? I almost had 00:22:00.720 --> 00:22:04.039 it on my list is 25. Oh, yeah. Which is another 00:22:04.039 --> 00:22:07.640 phenomenal singing her heart out kind of power 00:22:07.640 --> 00:22:09.440 about. It's almost like a love song to herself. 00:22:10.220 --> 00:22:12.539 in a way, but I'm so happy that you've got Taylor 00:22:12.539 --> 00:22:15.400 on this list because she so deserves to be on 00:22:15.400 --> 00:22:19.079 it because she's a real torch song kind of rock 00:22:19.079 --> 00:22:22.480 vocalist. She's got this whole torch songy, like 00:22:22.480 --> 00:22:26.480 you said, bluesy, sexy kind of sound. Yeah, it's 00:22:26.480 --> 00:22:31.079 almost like her voice is pole dancing. A little 00:22:31.079 --> 00:22:33.900 bit. Well, we're about to close out the first 00:22:33.900 --> 00:22:38.400 half of this playlist. And you get to choose 00:22:38.400 --> 00:22:43.559 the last song for the first five. Okay. Let me 00:22:43.559 --> 00:22:46.539 go Alter Bridge. I'm going to go Alter Bridge 00:22:46.539 --> 00:22:53.400 and Blackbird. I love this song. It is very haunting. 00:22:53.740 --> 00:22:58.960 I think it took the band from one place to the 00:22:58.960 --> 00:23:01.099 next place. It's probably one of their longest 00:23:01.099 --> 00:23:03.339 songs on a record. A clock's in close to, I think, 00:23:03.380 --> 00:23:06.049 almost eight minutes. It's about a friend of 00:23:06.049 --> 00:23:09.269 Miles Kennedy who Miles lost. There's this whole 00:23:09.269 --> 00:23:13.630 big epic feel and vibe in the song. It's the 00:23:13.630 --> 00:23:17.369 title track from the album. And it's just one 00:23:17.369 --> 00:23:20.170 of those songs that when they sing it, if they 00:23:20.170 --> 00:23:23.450 sing it live. There's just something very magical 00:23:23.450 --> 00:23:27.470 about that song. And I've had people hit me up 00:23:27.470 --> 00:23:29.849 to play that song on the radio for them. And 00:23:29.849 --> 00:23:31.970 I'm like grabbing the CD to get the whole you 00:23:31.970 --> 00:23:33.549 got to do the whole song. You can't do a radio 00:23:33.549 --> 00:23:35.289 edit. There's no edit or anything like that. 00:23:35.309 --> 00:23:37.269 You got to get the whole thing in because it 00:23:37.269 --> 00:23:40.650 means a lot. It's a very impactful song for people. 00:23:40.750 --> 00:23:45.190 And it is not maybe one of their. Most well -known 00:23:45.190 --> 00:23:47.410 songs. But the Alter Bridge fans, they're a very 00:23:47.410 --> 00:23:49.390 special group as well. And they know everything 00:23:49.390 --> 00:23:53.890 this band does. It is a fan favorite. And one 00:23:53.890 --> 00:23:56.369 of their epic kind of songs, you know, they started 00:23:56.369 --> 00:23:58.970 then making more in the way of like epic sounding 00:23:58.970 --> 00:24:04.089 songs with big giant imagery. And I think Blackbird 00:24:04.089 --> 00:24:06.130 was one of those first songs that I heard that 00:24:06.130 --> 00:24:09.710 did that for me. I love the pick. I had this 00:24:09.710 --> 00:24:13.349 and Ghosts of Days Gone By on my list. Even though 00:24:13.349 --> 00:24:16.069 Ghost of Days Gone By is slightly a little bit 00:24:16.069 --> 00:24:19.029 more up -tempo during the verses and stuff, I 00:24:19.029 --> 00:24:21.269 still feel that anthemic chorus. Because when 00:24:21.269 --> 00:24:24.630 I think about an anthemic chorus post -2000, 00:24:25.089 --> 00:24:28.589 it's very hard to not immediately think about 00:24:28.589 --> 00:24:33.410 Miles Kennedy. His voice was built for that anthemic 00:24:33.410 --> 00:24:36.549 chorus. And I think he's one of the, what I call 00:24:36.549 --> 00:24:40.190 it, bridges to the old sound. of the 80s power 00:24:40.190 --> 00:24:42.049 ballad like we were talking about at the top 00:24:42.049 --> 00:24:44.910 of the episode because he hits those high notes 00:24:44.910 --> 00:24:50.130 with just such effortless ease. And I know there's 00:24:50.130 --> 00:24:52.910 a lot of people that talk about, well, Alter 00:24:52.910 --> 00:24:55.130 Bridge is just Creed with a different singer. 00:24:55.509 --> 00:24:59.210 Nah. I've never believed that because in this 00:24:59.210 --> 00:25:04.529 universe, I cannot hear Scott Stapp singing Blackbird. 00:25:04.630 --> 00:25:06.930 I really feel that even though the musicians 00:25:06.930 --> 00:25:10.440 are... one in the same between the two bands, 00:25:10.579 --> 00:25:14.460 and they share the two groups, I really feel 00:25:14.460 --> 00:25:17.460 like they've carved out their own niche on each 00:25:17.460 --> 00:25:20.160 side of that spectrum. And they do it in such 00:25:20.160 --> 00:25:25.339 a way that it feels unique to each singer's strengths. 00:25:25.640 --> 00:25:29.920 And Blackbird is something that, I'm sorry, as 00:25:29.920 --> 00:25:32.660 much as Scott Stapp is an incredible vocalist, 00:25:32.740 --> 00:25:36.960 that is Miles Kennedy's song. And that is their 00:25:36.960 --> 00:25:41.180 universe. That is an Alter Bridge song. And Creed 00:25:41.180 --> 00:25:44.539 has ones that I just don't feel that Miles would 00:25:44.539 --> 00:25:47.559 do justice to because it needs Scott's energy. 00:25:47.900 --> 00:25:50.180 And that's something that I've heard a lot of 00:25:50.180 --> 00:25:52.299 people argue about. And it kind of drives me 00:25:52.299 --> 00:25:55.180 crazy, to be honest with you. Yeah, I think the 00:25:55.180 --> 00:26:00.119 feel of the bands are so different. And I hear 00:26:00.119 --> 00:26:02.460 a different Tremonti in Alter Bridge than I hear 00:26:02.460 --> 00:26:05.019 in Creed. Maybe that's just me as a Tremonti 00:26:05.019 --> 00:26:07.759 fan. I hear a different rhythm section in Alter 00:26:07.759 --> 00:26:11.720 Bridge than I hear in Creed. So, yeah, I agree 00:26:11.720 --> 00:26:14.440 with you. I think that that is a Miles Kennedy 00:26:14.440 --> 00:26:16.180 song through and through. I don't think anybody 00:26:16.180 --> 00:26:19.539 else can sing the vocal gymnastics that are in 00:26:19.539 --> 00:26:22.480 that song. And there's definitely just a different 00:26:22.480 --> 00:26:26.099 feel for each band. And Miles is such an emotional 00:26:26.099 --> 00:26:29.599 singer. When you see them perform that live, 00:26:29.640 --> 00:26:31.740 when they perform that live, people are crying. 00:26:32.039 --> 00:26:36.279 Oh, yeah. That song means so much to them. So, 00:26:36.380 --> 00:26:39.059 yeah, I had to get an AB song on my list because 00:26:39.059 --> 00:26:41.640 I'm such an Alter Bridge fan. Perfect way to 00:26:41.640 --> 00:26:44.799 close out the first half of this post -2000s 00:26:44.799 --> 00:26:47.299 power ballads playlist, which kicked off with 00:26:47.299 --> 00:26:50.440 Seven Dust's Angel's Son, followed up by Papa 00:26:50.440 --> 00:26:53.920 Roach's Leave a Light On, Dorothy's Rest in Peace, 00:26:54.000 --> 00:26:57.539 The Pretty Reckless Just Tonight. and Alter Bridge's 00:26:57.539 --> 00:27:00.579 Blackbird. Head over to myweeklymixtape .com 00:27:00.579 --> 00:27:02.859 to hear all the songs we've discussed in this 00:27:02.859 --> 00:27:06.579 mix through the playlist embedded on the episode 00:27:06.579 --> 00:27:10.779 page. And now we're going to dive into the second 00:27:10.779 --> 00:27:13.180 half of this playlist. And Terry, I'm going to 00:27:13.180 --> 00:27:15.640 go with one that, a group that I actually got 00:27:15.640 --> 00:27:17.759 to catch up with you in person last summer when 00:27:17.759 --> 00:27:21.500 we both saw them live at their first ever headlining 00:27:21.500 --> 00:27:25.369 Madison Square Garden show. And that is the one 00:27:25.369 --> 00:27:28.190 and only Shine Down. And when I say the band 00:27:28.190 --> 00:27:31.789 name, there are so many different songs I could 00:27:31.789 --> 00:27:35.490 choose from here. I mean, Second Chance, I Dare 00:27:35.490 --> 00:27:40.789 You, A Symptom of Being Human, Get Up. There 00:27:40.789 --> 00:27:44.930 are so many that could work so, so well. And 00:27:44.930 --> 00:27:48.490 I'm going to go with one that, for me, is extremely 00:27:48.490 --> 00:27:53.250 important. Back in 2019, my wife and I... We're 00:27:53.250 --> 00:27:56.309 lucky enough to get our hands on a pair of Primo 00:27:56.309 --> 00:27:58.670 seats for the Attention Attention Tour up in 00:27:58.670 --> 00:28:00.990 Guilford, New Hampshire. And when they broke 00:28:00.990 --> 00:28:04.710 out, I'll follow you. It moved me to tears. I'm 00:28:04.710 --> 00:28:06.509 there with my wife, who's somebody who's been 00:28:06.509 --> 00:28:09.410 there with me now for over 20 years through thick 00:28:09.410 --> 00:28:12.670 and thin, good times and bad. I mean, life has 00:28:12.670 --> 00:28:15.750 thrown us everything, the ups, the downs, the 00:28:15.750 --> 00:28:18.990 happy times, the sad times. And she has been 00:28:18.990 --> 00:28:23.609 my rock through life. And it's a song like that, 00:28:23.690 --> 00:28:26.789 that we got married a long time, you know, way 00:28:26.789 --> 00:28:28.630 prior to this song ever coming out. And it's 00:28:28.630 --> 00:28:30.190 one of those ones that thinking back, I'm like, 00:28:30.269 --> 00:28:33.069 I see why people use this as their wedding song. 00:28:33.309 --> 00:28:36.230 And it doesn't necessarily have to be about a 00:28:36.230 --> 00:28:39.049 partner. It could be about a friend. There's 00:28:39.049 --> 00:28:42.789 just so many layers of depth to this song that 00:28:42.789 --> 00:28:46.490 Brent brings lyrically. I feel like they're a 00:28:46.490 --> 00:28:48.549 band that, and I know this sounds weird to say 00:28:48.549 --> 00:28:51.259 because they don't know me personally. But damn 00:28:51.259 --> 00:28:54.859 it, they get me for some reason lyrically, if 00:28:54.859 --> 00:28:56.180 that makes any sense. You're not the only one 00:28:56.180 --> 00:28:58.819 that feels that way. I mean, that I think is 00:28:58.819 --> 00:29:03.000 the magic of their fan base because they just 00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:07.859 connect. They are a band that connects. I saw 00:29:07.859 --> 00:29:10.900 that from the first minute I put them on the 00:29:10.900 --> 00:29:15.099 air. I mean, when I was at WDHA, the first one 00:29:15.099 --> 00:29:18.119 of the first stations they ever came to, if not 00:29:18.119 --> 00:29:22.299 the first in the Northeast, was us. And I wasn't 00:29:22.299 --> 00:29:24.099 even going to be there that day. I was doing 00:29:24.099 --> 00:29:26.619 a live broadcast from a barbecue joint. So they 00:29:26.619 --> 00:29:28.099 said, well, we'll come to the barbecue joint 00:29:28.099 --> 00:29:31.579 and we'll play. And they were at Pop's Barbecue 00:29:31.579 --> 00:29:36.460 in Madison, New Jersey. And I was doing the lunch 00:29:36.460 --> 00:29:39.160 hour live and Shinedown is in there. And they 00:29:39.160 --> 00:29:43.359 did four songs. They did Fly From the Inside. 00:29:43.400 --> 00:29:48.079 They did 45. They did Burning Bright and Simple 00:29:48.079 --> 00:29:51.549 Man. Of course. For this barbecue crowd, and 00:29:51.549 --> 00:29:56.289 I saw it then, there's a connection that this 00:29:56.289 --> 00:30:01.509 band makes with the fans that you just said it 00:30:01.509 --> 00:30:05.150 perfectly. They get me. Everybody feels like 00:30:05.150 --> 00:30:08.990 that. You could be a teenage girl or a 70 -year 00:30:08.990 --> 00:30:12.349 -old man. It doesn't matter because their fan 00:30:12.349 --> 00:30:16.890 base feels that way. This person is talking to 00:30:16.890 --> 00:30:20.740 me. And that's the magic, man. Everybody wants 00:30:20.740 --> 00:30:23.759 that, right? And that is not something that's 00:30:23.759 --> 00:30:26.700 easy to pull off. No. I mean, you think about 00:30:26.700 --> 00:30:28.460 a lot of the songs out there and you listen to 00:30:28.460 --> 00:30:30.799 it lyrically and you're like, man, in my 20s, 00:30:30.799 --> 00:30:33.319 I would have related to that. But now, eh, not 00:30:33.319 --> 00:30:36.140 so much. For some reason with Shinedown lyrics, 00:30:36.460 --> 00:30:38.539 no matter what it is, even a song like Adrenaline, 00:30:38.579 --> 00:30:41.440 something as simple as that, they just get who 00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:44.289 I am. Yeah. Yeah. Great choice, too. I'm glad 00:30:44.289 --> 00:30:45.990 you chose that one because, you know, symptom 00:30:45.990 --> 00:30:48.390 of being human. Everyone knows that one. So I'm 00:30:48.390 --> 00:30:50.190 glad that you that you picked that one because 00:30:50.190 --> 00:30:52.690 I think I think it's a perfect choice for the 00:30:52.690 --> 00:30:55.109 list. Great. All right. Well, tossing it back 00:30:55.109 --> 00:30:58.609 to you for track seven here. I have a prop for 00:30:58.609 --> 00:31:03.009 track seven. OK. All right. I'm going with Hailstorm. 00:31:03.269 --> 00:31:07.529 Nice. From their debut and familiar taste of 00:31:07.529 --> 00:31:10.769 poison. This was a different side I saw of the 00:31:10.769 --> 00:31:14.349 band. I love the video. It was almost like I 00:31:14.349 --> 00:31:17.190 saw Lizzy as a leading lady. Like all of a sudden 00:31:17.190 --> 00:31:19.890 I just saw all of the things that she could do. 00:31:19.950 --> 00:31:22.670 And she was still very young. This was 2009 when 00:31:22.670 --> 00:31:26.609 this came out. So I have this prop because Lizzy 00:31:26.609 --> 00:31:29.250 dedicated the song to me and gave me a rose. 00:31:29.819 --> 00:31:32.500 Wow. At PNC Bank Arts Center. And this is actually 00:31:32.500 --> 00:31:35.240 like, you know, it's not a real rose, but someone 00:31:35.240 --> 00:31:38.240 makes them in her camp. So she dedicated this 00:31:38.240 --> 00:31:40.299 song to me. So that song is always very special. 00:31:40.400 --> 00:31:42.859 I've always loved it. But then to have her dedicate 00:31:42.859 --> 00:31:45.619 that song to me and then give me the rose was 00:31:45.619 --> 00:31:48.980 very special. So I love it. So, yeah. That is 00:31:48.980 --> 00:31:52.359 absolutely. I caught that 2009 touring cycle 00:31:52.359 --> 00:31:55.519 several times up in New Hampshire, as well as 00:31:55.519 --> 00:31:57.500 in New Jersey Starland Ballroom. I think they 00:31:57.500 --> 00:32:00.809 were with. three days grace at the time. I think 00:32:00.809 --> 00:32:02.569 you're right. I think you're right. I was at 00:32:02.569 --> 00:32:06.390 that show. Yep. And seeing them on stage, I turned 00:32:06.390 --> 00:32:09.450 to my buddy and said, these guys are going to 00:32:09.450 --> 00:32:13.269 be huge. There is not a single doubt in my mind. 00:32:13.289 --> 00:32:17.490 They have every bit of the it factor. Then when 00:32:17.490 --> 00:32:19.430 I saw them that same year up in New Hampshire, 00:32:19.470 --> 00:32:22.789 it was with Chevelle shine down and stained. 00:32:23.329 --> 00:32:26.609 And again, You just knew. Everybody in the crowd 00:32:26.609 --> 00:32:29.309 knew. They were commanding the audience from 00:32:29.309 --> 00:32:32.630 what I call the sunshine slot, which is where 00:32:32.630 --> 00:32:35.190 the sun is just beaming down on them. They don't 00:32:35.190 --> 00:32:37.369 need lights because they're playing in the middle 00:32:37.369 --> 00:32:39.670 of the day and they were still commanding the 00:32:39.670 --> 00:32:44.049 audience like it was 11 o 'clock at night. And 00:32:44.049 --> 00:32:47.250 that, I think, went through all of their albums. 00:32:47.369 --> 00:32:49.609 I could have went with a ton of ballads from 00:32:49.609 --> 00:32:52.710 them. Raise Your Horns, which is just Lizzy and 00:32:52.710 --> 00:32:55.750 a piano. I know it's not a power ballad, but 00:32:55.750 --> 00:32:59.490 the notes she hits and the gravel she screams 00:32:59.490 --> 00:33:03.609 at the end of that song make a piano a power 00:33:03.609 --> 00:33:07.430 ballad. And then I have to just give a shout 00:33:07.430 --> 00:33:10.369 out to Here's to Us. I lost one of my closest 00:33:10.369 --> 00:33:13.210 friends back in 2011, and I got a chance to, 00:33:13.230 --> 00:33:15.890 I actually tweeted this out to Lizzy back when 00:33:15.890 --> 00:33:18.390 this happened. One of the lines in the song, 00:33:18.710 --> 00:33:21.630 if they give you hell, tell them go fuck themselves. 00:33:22.559 --> 00:33:26.259 My buddy always said to me, they don't like it. 00:33:26.519 --> 00:33:28.700 Tell them to go fuck themselves. And this song 00:33:28.700 --> 00:33:31.519 came out months after he passed. I was on Route 00:33:31.519 --> 00:33:36.319 46. I had to pull over my car so I could have 00:33:36.319 --> 00:33:38.380 myself a good cry and look up and go, are you 00:33:38.380 --> 00:33:42.180 kidding me? Her music, again, like Shinedown, 00:33:42.279 --> 00:33:46.970 they've evolved. so much since 2009. And I think 00:33:46.970 --> 00:33:49.430 their albums are getting bigger and more epic 00:33:49.430 --> 00:33:52.349 and they're really pushing the boundaries. She 00:33:52.349 --> 00:33:55.390 is a force to be reckoned with musically. She's 00:33:55.390 --> 00:33:57.589 an escalator. I've called her an escalator for 00:33:57.589 --> 00:33:59.630 women. You know, sometimes you get from here 00:33:59.630 --> 00:34:01.609 to here and it takes slow and sometimes you get 00:34:01.609 --> 00:34:03.529 from here to here. Lizzy's been somebody who 00:34:03.529 --> 00:34:06.970 has been an escalator, who has helped women in 00:34:06.970 --> 00:34:10.030 music because let's face it, the music business 00:34:10.030 --> 00:34:14.300 is all about money. So people want to know we're 00:34:14.300 --> 00:34:15.760 going to have a band and they're going to get 00:34:15.760 --> 00:34:17.800 on the charts and they're going to have 10 number 00:34:17.800 --> 00:34:21.079 ones and five number fives and we can put them 00:34:21.079 --> 00:34:23.340 as a headliner and they're going to sell tickets. 00:34:23.400 --> 00:34:26.280 And that's a big deal. And they never thought 00:34:26.280 --> 00:34:31.599 much of women in music in the past is still very 00:34:31.599 --> 00:34:35.119 male dominated. But Lizzie has been an escalator. 00:34:35.179 --> 00:34:36.940 So when you say she's a force to be reckoned 00:34:36.940 --> 00:34:42.300 with, she has done much more for. elevating women, 00:34:42.500 --> 00:34:45.420 talented women who are making music than anyone 00:34:45.420 --> 00:34:49.739 will ever know. I have to chime in on that because 00:34:49.739 --> 00:34:52.440 one of the first guests ever on my weekly mixtape 00:34:52.440 --> 00:34:55.320 was Amanda, the lead singer of Eva Under Fire. 00:34:55.559 --> 00:34:59.679 And Eva Under Fire does a amazing cover of Separate 00:34:59.679 --> 00:35:02.480 Ways, Worlds Apart, which came out about maybe 00:35:02.480 --> 00:35:07.099 a year prior to Lizzy and Daughtry's version 00:35:07.099 --> 00:35:10.159 of the same song. I remember that. And somehow 00:35:10.159 --> 00:35:12.539 the two of them connected and did it live once 00:35:12.539 --> 00:35:16.599 on stage when Eva Under Fire opened for Hailstorm. 00:35:16.800 --> 00:35:20.880 And I feel like Hailstorm giving that light to 00:35:20.880 --> 00:35:23.880 bands that are up and coming is so empowering. 00:35:24.079 --> 00:35:26.940 And it's something that is infectious because 00:35:26.940 --> 00:35:30.019 you see these bands continuing to try to raise 00:35:30.019 --> 00:35:33.639 other bands up and show the community aspect 00:35:33.639 --> 00:35:36.699 in music. And to me, that's a beautiful thing 00:35:36.699 --> 00:35:39.849 because A lot of times at the really underground 00:35:39.849 --> 00:35:42.849 stage when there's battle of the bands and who 00:35:42.849 --> 00:35:45.449 can sell more tickets than who the whole pay 00:35:45.449 --> 00:35:49.030 to play thing. Unfortunately, bands start to 00:35:49.030 --> 00:35:51.010 lose sight of the fact that at the end of the 00:35:51.010 --> 00:35:54.530 day, the local music scene and any music scene 00:35:54.530 --> 00:35:56.989 for that matter is supposed to be a community. 00:35:57.349 --> 00:35:59.530 Brilliant. And that's something that I always 00:35:59.530 --> 00:36:03.869 carry with me. I feel like it needs to be. Hailstorm 00:36:03.869 --> 00:36:06.710 is one of those bands too. I think somebody said 00:36:06.710 --> 00:36:09.570 this to me. Everyone likes to tour with Hailstorm 00:36:09.570 --> 00:36:11.769 and bands. Some bands don't like to tour with 00:36:11.769 --> 00:36:13.349 other bands. There's a lot of that that goes 00:36:13.349 --> 00:36:15.809 on behind the scenes. And a promoter said to 00:36:15.809 --> 00:36:18.130 me, well, Hailstorm, I can put them on any bill 00:36:18.130 --> 00:36:20.329 because everybody likes Hailstorm. They're just 00:36:20.329 --> 00:36:24.170 that kind of a band. And I also want to make 00:36:24.170 --> 00:36:27.570 a point. It's such a touchy subject because when 00:36:27.570 --> 00:36:29.469 you sometimes talk about women helping other 00:36:29.469 --> 00:36:31.670 women and stuff, people say, but now we have 00:36:31.670 --> 00:36:34.190 to take that out of it because bands just want 00:36:34.190 --> 00:36:37.789 to be bands. Well, I've got to tell you. Until 00:36:37.789 --> 00:36:40.789 the women get the same respect, the same money 00:36:40.789 --> 00:36:43.849 and the same everything as men, when you are 00:36:43.849 --> 00:36:48.309 able to move a cause forward, take that. Take 00:36:48.309 --> 00:36:53.269 those accolades because we need it. We're not 00:36:53.269 --> 00:36:57.949 there yet. We're definitely not there yet. So 00:36:57.949 --> 00:37:01.110 Lizzie is one of those people and she is so one 00:37:01.110 --> 00:37:03.949 of those people who will help. Any band she's 00:37:03.949 --> 00:37:06.250 a fan of, look what she did for Skid Row. Oh, 00:37:06.269 --> 00:37:08.889 what a run. I wish that came to Jersey. Those 00:37:08.889 --> 00:37:11.389 guys are super guys, and they just wanted to 00:37:11.389 --> 00:37:14.409 get some of their tour dates complete for the 00:37:14.409 --> 00:37:17.610 fans, for the band, for the promoters, for the 00:37:17.610 --> 00:37:20.849 venues. And she was like, look, I'm a fan of 00:37:20.849 --> 00:37:23.329 your band. I don't care what it pays, if it pays. 00:37:23.409 --> 00:37:25.150 She didn't care. She's like, whatever dates you 00:37:25.150 --> 00:37:27.849 have, I'm in. I'll do it. I just want to sing 00:37:27.849 --> 00:37:30.610 in Skid Row. Because that's just how she is. 00:37:31.150 --> 00:37:34.570 She's just a music fan. And man, we need those 00:37:34.570 --> 00:37:36.869 people. It's a community. You're right. And before 00:37:36.869 --> 00:37:38.889 I go too much onto this side, can I just say 00:37:38.889 --> 00:37:41.690 how incredible Hailstorm's cover of Slave to 00:37:41.690 --> 00:37:44.550 the Grind is from the Reanimate EP? Amazing. 00:37:44.650 --> 00:37:46.849 When she hits those high notes in it, like that 00:37:46.849 --> 00:37:50.869 is, oh my God, I love Slave to the Grind. Monkey 00:37:50.869 --> 00:37:53.130 Business is my favorite Skid Row song, but Slave 00:37:53.130 --> 00:37:56.329 to the Grind is such a monster. And when I heard 00:37:56.329 --> 00:37:59.260 they were covering this, I'm like. You have my 00:37:59.260 --> 00:38:01.400 attention. And when I first put it on, I'm like, 00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:04.619 OK, one of my favorite bands now. Takes balls, 00:38:04.880 --> 00:38:09.699 man. Takes balls to do that song. And she slayed 00:38:09.699 --> 00:38:12.679 it. She killed it. And those guys love her. And 00:38:12.679 --> 00:38:14.900 rightfully so. You know, she's just she's just 00:38:14.900 --> 00:38:17.579 Lizzie's also just good people. She's just really 00:38:17.579 --> 00:38:20.420 good people. Well, we're going to sway a little 00:38:20.420 --> 00:38:22.639 bit away from the female side of things here. 00:38:22.980 --> 00:38:25.650 And I'm going to go with a band that. I don't 00:38:25.650 --> 00:38:28.309 know necessarily if they'll fit in the hard rock. 00:38:28.650 --> 00:38:31.010 I consider them hard rock, but there's definitely 00:38:31.010 --> 00:38:35.070 a glam element to this group. And I saw them 00:38:35.070 --> 00:38:36.989 at the Prudential Center in Newark, New Jersey. 00:38:37.030 --> 00:38:39.190 It was either last year or 2024. It's a little 00:38:39.190 --> 00:38:41.409 hazy. The last year and a half has been crazy 00:38:41.409 --> 00:38:45.550 for me. With Cedar and Stained. Yeah, I think 00:38:45.550 --> 00:38:48.130 that was my radio station show. Yes, it was WDHA. 00:38:48.670 --> 00:38:52.889 Yes, I brought my youngest to that. And the struts 00:38:52.889 --> 00:38:55.849 blew my mind. I've been a fan of them since I 00:38:55.849 --> 00:39:00.269 first discovered their music in 2015. They were 00:39:00.269 --> 00:39:02.610 still just a UK band, but they put out this little 00:39:02.610 --> 00:39:06.489 EP on iTunes, and I listened to it for about 00:39:06.489 --> 00:39:09.309 five hours straight one day. And then in 2016, 00:39:09.389 --> 00:39:12.150 they released their debut album, Everybody Wants, 00:39:12.190 --> 00:39:16.150 in the US, which is essentially the 2014 album 00:39:16.150 --> 00:39:18.769 with some re -records and some extra tracks. 00:39:19.070 --> 00:39:22.809 And on that album is a song called Merry Go Round. 00:39:23.719 --> 00:39:31.440 And to me, this is a pure, tried and true 80s 00:39:31.440 --> 00:39:37.199 power ballad done in the 2010s. His vocals, there's 00:39:37.199 --> 00:39:40.559 a touch of David Bowie to it. There's a touch 00:39:40.559 --> 00:39:45.639 of the hair band glam. And there's a touch of 00:39:45.639 --> 00:39:48.400 Queen to it. And you kind of roll it all into 00:39:48.400 --> 00:39:52.119 one and you get this sound that is so unique. 00:39:53.150 --> 00:39:58.469 And I don't know if rock radio was ready for 00:39:58.469 --> 00:40:02.050 the struts at the time. I think we were. I will 00:40:02.050 --> 00:40:04.449 tell you off the record, well, I guess we're 00:40:04.449 --> 00:40:08.769 on the record now. I think we were ready. I don't 00:40:08.769 --> 00:40:11.050 think the band or the people around the band 00:40:11.050 --> 00:40:15.360 knew what they wanted to do with that band. And 00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:18.159 I would always ask about the struts. And I was 00:40:18.159 --> 00:40:20.300 super psyched when we had them finally had them 00:40:20.300 --> 00:40:22.099 on our show. I was like, oh, this is so cool. 00:40:22.179 --> 00:40:23.820 And I thought they stole. Personally, I thought 00:40:23.820 --> 00:40:25.579 they stole the show. They were incredible. They 00:40:25.579 --> 00:40:28.480 stole the show. But I don't think anybody knew 00:40:28.480 --> 00:40:31.659 because bands always have to be boxed. You know, 00:40:31.679 --> 00:40:33.500 we're going to get here on the active charts 00:40:33.500 --> 00:40:35.480 and here on the modern rock charts and here on 00:40:35.480 --> 00:40:38.500 the mainstream charts. And they were a band. 00:40:38.860 --> 00:40:42.170 And I don't know which camp it came from. Because 00:40:42.170 --> 00:40:44.050 somebody said, yeah, well, they're going to end 00:40:44.050 --> 00:40:46.110 up being more like a Maroon 5. And I'm like, 00:40:46.130 --> 00:40:48.510 a Maroon 5? They're like freaking Queen. He's 00:40:48.510 --> 00:40:50.050 not Maroon. Like, what are you talking about? 00:40:50.369 --> 00:40:53.650 So I think there was that confusion. I think 00:40:53.650 --> 00:40:57.489 rock radio, whether we knew it or not, was so 00:40:57.489 --> 00:41:00.610 ready for a little bit of a different vibe and 00:41:00.610 --> 00:41:02.750 a little bit of a different sound. And I thought 00:41:02.750 --> 00:41:06.329 they could have taken that song to be a single. 00:41:06.590 --> 00:41:09.039 And I thought they could have taken that. Banned 00:41:09.039 --> 00:41:11.940 from the beginning to go the distance. So I agree 00:41:11.940 --> 00:41:15.480 with you 10 ,000%. They're a rock band to me. 00:41:15.639 --> 00:41:18.000 They're 100 % tried and true. Even though they 00:41:18.000 --> 00:41:19.940 had body talks where they did a version with 00:41:19.940 --> 00:41:22.320 just the band and then they brought Kesha on, 00:41:22.519 --> 00:41:25.039 I think they were testing where they went. But 00:41:25.039 --> 00:41:28.039 on Pretty Vicious, their last studio album, they 00:41:28.039 --> 00:41:29.920 knew exactly where they were going. And that 00:41:29.920 --> 00:41:32.820 is rooted in kind of like Too Good at Raising 00:41:32.820 --> 00:41:35.659 Hell had that Rolling Stones, Dirty with the 00:41:35.659 --> 00:41:38.650 horn section. then Pretty Vicious, you get that 00:41:38.650 --> 00:41:41.369 late night drive swagger coming through in a 00:41:41.369 --> 00:41:46.550 song. They are so unique. And I feel like they're 00:41:46.550 --> 00:41:48.710 destined for greatness. And the thing is, on 00:41:48.710 --> 00:41:50.889 the other side of the pond, they're already there. 00:41:51.230 --> 00:41:55.170 The fact that it's taken nearly 12 years. What's 00:41:55.170 --> 00:41:59.389 going on? I never understand it. I just don't 00:41:59.389 --> 00:42:02.510 understand it. They should have been big five 00:42:02.510 --> 00:42:05.840 years ago. Amen. They should monster. They're 00:42:05.840 --> 00:42:08.679 big, but they should have been monster five years 00:42:08.679 --> 00:42:11.719 ago. Five years ago. They're rock stars. We need 00:42:11.719 --> 00:42:14.260 rock stars. People kind of forget sometimes. 00:42:14.559 --> 00:42:17.619 I love good singers. We love good songs, great 00:42:17.619 --> 00:42:22.579 live bands. We also need rock stars. Gotta have 00:42:22.579 --> 00:42:25.219 some rock stars. And Luke Spiller is a rock star. 00:42:25.559 --> 00:42:30.059 Amen. 100 % tried and true. And I'll say this. 00:42:30.590 --> 00:42:32.769 I think their time is coming, and I think it's 00:42:32.769 --> 00:42:35.449 coming very, very soon in the U .S. I hope so. 00:42:35.710 --> 00:42:39.389 It's about damn time. So, Terry, we're down to 00:42:39.389 --> 00:42:42.530 two songs left, one each. This is where it gets 00:42:42.530 --> 00:42:45.130 really tough because we're kind of summing up 00:42:45.130 --> 00:42:48.769 25 -plus years of power ballads, and we only 00:42:48.769 --> 00:42:52.710 got two songs. Okay. So what is your last pick 00:42:52.710 --> 00:42:57.670 for this evening? I have to go with one of my 00:42:57.670 --> 00:43:00.599 favorite supergroups of all time. And that is 00:43:00.599 --> 00:43:04.699 Velvet Revolver. Two of my all time favorite 00:43:04.699 --> 00:43:08.900 rock stars, musicians, artists are in that band. 00:43:08.980 --> 00:43:12.920 That's Scott Weiland and Slash. And Fall to Pieces 00:43:12.920 --> 00:43:16.599 was a song that it was the third single from 00:43:16.599 --> 00:43:20.599 Contraband. And when I first heard it, I said, 00:43:20.659 --> 00:43:24.199 this band is going to be massively huge. I'd 00:43:24.199 --> 00:43:27.199 hoped and prayed that we would get more music 00:43:27.199 --> 00:43:29.500 and more music and more music and more music. 00:43:29.869 --> 00:43:32.909 from the band there's something about that song 00:43:32.909 --> 00:43:39.849 it's kind of an ode to scott with drugs and everything 00:43:39.849 --> 00:43:42.829 that went on with drugs and he was sort of trying 00:43:42.829 --> 00:43:46.989 to leave it behind issues in his marriage so 00:43:46.989 --> 00:43:49.849 i think it's kind of leaving your demons here 00:43:49.849 --> 00:43:53.130 and trying to put that relationship back together 00:43:53.130 --> 00:43:57.179 and um It's just such an impactful song. His 00:43:57.179 --> 00:44:01.179 vocal is beautiful on it. Slash's guitar is incredible 00:44:01.179 --> 00:44:04.840 on it. And it was such a monster hit for the 00:44:04.840 --> 00:44:08.380 band. I think it stayed at number one for weeks 00:44:08.380 --> 00:44:10.619 and weeks and weeks. And it was on the charts, 00:44:10.780 --> 00:44:13.760 you know, the rock charts for 11 weeks or 12 00:44:13.760 --> 00:44:15.860 weeks, just like a massive hit for that band. 00:44:16.000 --> 00:44:19.619 So I could not leave Fall to Pieces out of my 00:44:19.619 --> 00:44:22.760 list because I think it's one of the most impactful 00:44:22.760 --> 00:44:27.110 songs. of the 2000s, of that era. And, you know, 00:44:27.130 --> 00:44:29.650 rest in peace, Scott. We had such a great band 00:44:29.650 --> 00:44:31.909 with Velvet Revolver, so different than Guns 00:44:31.909 --> 00:44:33.489 N' Roses. I don't know if Guns would have ever 00:44:33.489 --> 00:44:36.250 gotten back together had Scott gotten everything 00:44:36.250 --> 00:44:39.150 back together because they were so dynamic and 00:44:39.150 --> 00:44:42.190 such a rock and roll band. Everybody in the band 00:44:42.190 --> 00:44:45.510 was a rock star. It was just so cool. The term 00:44:45.510 --> 00:44:48.869 supergroup sometimes gets thrown around loosely. 00:44:49.770 --> 00:44:53.710 Velvet Revolver was every bit of the word super. 00:44:53.909 --> 00:44:56.610 When you look at that lineup and you look at 00:44:56.610 --> 00:45:01.630 the artists involved, the bar was set so high 00:45:01.630 --> 00:45:07.230 for them. You're talking Guns N' Roses and Stone 00:45:07.230 --> 00:45:11.610 Temple Pilots. On paper, when they first got 00:45:11.610 --> 00:45:13.789 announced, I remember a lot of people going, 00:45:13.969 --> 00:45:17.849 I don't know if this is going to work. And the 00:45:17.849 --> 00:45:20.409 first time I listened to Contraband front to 00:45:20.409 --> 00:45:23.469 back, I said, not only does this work, they've 00:45:23.469 --> 00:45:26.969 carved out something special here. And I really, 00:45:26.989 --> 00:45:30.130 it breaks my heart that we were not able to see 00:45:30.130 --> 00:45:32.230 more from them. And I have to agree with you. 00:45:32.329 --> 00:45:35.349 I don't know if you get a Guns N' Roses. Guns 00:45:35.349 --> 00:45:37.769 N' Roses was still doing the Guns N' Roses thing. 00:45:38.170 --> 00:45:41.190 Chinese democracy, that was all happening at 00:45:41.190 --> 00:45:45.610 this time. And I personally think Velvet Revolver 00:45:45.610 --> 00:45:49.639 eclipsed That era of Guns N' Roses. And I know 00:45:49.639 --> 00:45:52.440 that's a big say to the GNR fans out there. It 00:45:52.440 --> 00:45:55.079 was such a rock band. I remember thinking this 00:45:55.079 --> 00:45:58.460 is what rock and roll needs right now. I saw 00:45:58.460 --> 00:46:00.340 them at Starland Ballroom. It was still the best 00:46:00.340 --> 00:46:03.420 show I have ever seen at the Starland Ballroom. 00:46:03.559 --> 00:46:07.800 I mean, just watching Scott on stage was such 00:46:07.800 --> 00:46:13.360 an experience. He was such a magical. Rock star. 00:46:13.380 --> 00:46:16.579 I mean, you just got so swept up. You felt so 00:46:16.579 --> 00:46:19.360 rock and roll after you left any show that he 00:46:19.360 --> 00:46:22.159 was fronting. And then to have Slash there and 00:46:22.159 --> 00:46:24.920 Duff there and Dave was just amazing. It was 00:46:24.920 --> 00:46:27.519 just a really, really phenomenal band. That song, 00:46:27.519 --> 00:46:30.719 too, has so much angst in it. His vocal performance 00:46:30.719 --> 00:46:37.639 is so poignant and. Almost like we're hearing 00:46:37.639 --> 00:46:41.760 things for the last time, you know, I felt very 00:46:41.760 --> 00:46:45.360 lucky that I was able to speak with him. And 00:46:45.360 --> 00:46:47.079 I don't want to say lucky that I got the last 00:46:47.079 --> 00:46:49.579 interview, but I think I got his his last interview 00:46:49.579 --> 00:46:54.019 ever. And it was a surprise to me as well. He 00:46:54.019 --> 00:46:57.420 was playing the Wellmont Theater and they said 00:46:57.420 --> 00:46:59.320 Scott Weiland is going to call. And it was it 00:46:59.320 --> 00:47:02.820 was the day before Thanksgiving and to promote 00:47:02.820 --> 00:47:06.960 the show. And look, I had. many experiences with 00:47:06.960 --> 00:47:09.920 Scott. You couldn't always count on him to call. 00:47:10.460 --> 00:47:12.380 So I remember thinking, he's never going to call. 00:47:12.460 --> 00:47:13.900 And they said, he'll call, he's going to call 00:47:13.900 --> 00:47:16.519 the hotline at 105. And I'm thinking, yeah, right. 00:47:16.639 --> 00:47:19.059 Okay. I barely did any prep for it because I'm 00:47:19.059 --> 00:47:20.500 like, he's not going to call me. So what's the 00:47:20.500 --> 00:47:23.480 difference? And sure enough, at 105, the hotline 00:47:23.480 --> 00:47:26.760 rang and it was Scott Weiland. And he was talking 00:47:26.760 --> 00:47:29.400 about his show coming up and he was a little 00:47:29.400 --> 00:47:33.139 slow in his speech. But he was so lovely and 00:47:33.139 --> 00:47:39.199 wonderful and sweet. And I remember playing that 00:47:39.199 --> 00:47:42.219 song after the interview because I felt like 00:47:42.219 --> 00:47:44.079 playing fall to pieces. And it was almost like 00:47:44.079 --> 00:47:47.559 a full circle moment for me where then he he 00:47:47.559 --> 00:47:51.000 had passed away, you know, a couple of weeks 00:47:51.000 --> 00:47:55.280 later. And I just have a very special feeling 00:47:55.280 --> 00:47:58.179 for that song and that last interview I ever 00:47:58.179 --> 00:48:00.840 did with Scott Weiland. There are no words. You 00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:03.400 said poignant, I think, was the word you used 00:48:03.400 --> 00:48:06.920 for his vocal delivery. I think it might be, 00:48:07.000 --> 00:48:10.099 and he's got some incredible vocal parts throughout 00:48:10.099 --> 00:48:13.039 all of Stone Temple Pilots' catalog. It might 00:48:13.039 --> 00:48:17.099 be the most powerful chorus he ever hits. That 00:48:17.099 --> 00:48:20.760 chorus, when he hits those notes, it's transcendent. 00:48:20.760 --> 00:48:23.119 I think that's the word I'm looking for. It is. 00:48:23.139 --> 00:48:26.699 It is. That song transports you. And it's one 00:48:26.699 --> 00:48:28.739 of those songs where when the music is playing, 00:48:28.820 --> 00:48:30.480 you kind of feel like you're almost above the 00:48:30.480 --> 00:48:32.679 music looking down at it. I can't really explain 00:48:32.679 --> 00:48:36.639 it. But yeah, that's that's how I feel that song. 00:48:37.099 --> 00:48:40.280 And I feel him. So I think Velvet Revolver just. 00:48:41.429 --> 00:48:43.650 underrated now. I mean, we knew how great they 00:48:43.650 --> 00:48:45.690 were then, but then I almost feel like people 00:48:45.690 --> 00:48:48.349 have forgotten about that because Guns has come 00:48:48.349 --> 00:48:51.070 back and Stone Temple Pilots are kind of doing 00:48:51.070 --> 00:48:53.650 their thing these days and stuff. And I think 00:48:53.650 --> 00:48:56.670 about Velvet Revolver and I go, shit, what a 00:48:56.670 --> 00:48:59.050 great rock and roll band. They were lightning 00:48:59.050 --> 00:49:01.829 in a bottle a very short time. But what we got 00:49:01.829 --> 00:49:07.909 was boom. I mean, just the greatest. Oh, man. 00:49:08.130 --> 00:49:11.170 And I've got to. put a bow on these 10 songs 00:49:11.170 --> 00:49:14.590 here and I'm torn right now. I've got two songs 00:49:14.590 --> 00:49:17.869 that I could go to here and I'm not quite sure. 00:49:19.710 --> 00:49:24.170 Okay. Okay. I got to give a shout out to the 00:49:24.170 --> 00:49:26.250 song. I'm not going to use here because I think 00:49:26.250 --> 00:49:28.909 it's important. Kind of like an honorable mention. 00:49:29.210 --> 00:49:34.530 Go for it. And that is Cedar featuring Amy Lee's 00:49:34.530 --> 00:49:38.380 broken from 2004. That was on my list too. And 00:49:38.380 --> 00:49:41.079 then I said, let me go for some of these others. 00:49:41.340 --> 00:49:44.559 But I think that is one of the most important 00:49:44.559 --> 00:49:46.480 songs. So I'm glad you're giving that an honorable 00:49:46.480 --> 00:49:50.340 mention. It has to. Their voices together. I 00:49:50.340 --> 00:49:53.480 mean, now in this day and age, collaborations 00:49:53.480 --> 00:49:55.739 and features like we had talked about with Carrie 00:49:55.739 --> 00:49:58.239 Underwood and Papa Roach, they happen pretty 00:49:58.239 --> 00:50:00.480 much with every deluxe edition album that comes 00:50:00.480 --> 00:50:03.539 out. There's going to be a guest spot on a song 00:50:03.539 --> 00:50:06.460 that's already been recorded. Back when Broken 00:50:06.460 --> 00:50:09.900 came out, this was not the norm. And I know I'm 00:50:09.900 --> 00:50:11.900 saying that and there's a little bit of an irony 00:50:11.900 --> 00:50:15.860 in that because Evanescence's breakout hit had 00:50:15.860 --> 00:50:18.239 a feature of Paul McCoy from 12 Stones and Bring 00:50:18.239 --> 00:50:20.780 Me to Life, but there was something special about 00:50:20.780 --> 00:50:23.340 the version on Disclaimer 2 and the Punisher 00:50:23.340 --> 00:50:26.380 soundtrack with Broken that their voices together 00:50:26.380 --> 00:50:30.179 is just, again, like you had said with Velvet 00:50:30.179 --> 00:50:33.119 Revolver, it was lightning in a bottle. But... 00:50:33.369 --> 00:50:35.829 That's looking back to 2004. And I think the 00:50:35.829 --> 00:50:38.369 song I want to close out tonight, I think wraps 00:50:38.369 --> 00:50:40.989 a nice bow on this episode. And it also looks 00:50:40.989 --> 00:50:43.989 forward to the future of what the power ballad 00:50:43.989 --> 00:50:47.869 can become as we move forward. And this is somebody 00:50:47.869 --> 00:50:51.550 that you had the chance to have at Debonair Music 00:50:51.550 --> 00:50:55.690 Hall for WDHA. And I am going to close this up 00:50:55.690 --> 00:50:59.909 tonight with Mammoth's Take a Bow from 2023's 00:50:59.909 --> 00:51:04.659 Mammoth 2. Guitar playing aside, I think it's 00:51:04.659 --> 00:51:07.519 safe to say that Wolf is cut from the same cloth 00:51:07.519 --> 00:51:13.059 from the Van Halen lineage, but he plays every 00:51:13.059 --> 00:51:18.739 instrument on every mammoth album. And I don't 00:51:18.739 --> 00:51:23.960 think people understand the complexity. That 00:51:23.960 --> 00:51:27.360 goes on in these songs. And the first time I 00:51:27.360 --> 00:51:28.980 heard the mammoth album, I listened to it in 00:51:28.980 --> 00:51:31.179 headphones and I kept saying to myself, some 00:51:31.179 --> 00:51:35.480 of these runs, this kid is special. He's another 00:51:35.480 --> 00:51:38.000 level. And when I saw him open up for Metallica, 00:51:38.059 --> 00:51:41.860 I said, there is going to be no nepotism with 00:51:41.860 --> 00:51:45.699 Wolf Van Halen. Unfortunately in the wires and 00:51:45.699 --> 00:51:49.460 in the rags, there is people saying that it's 00:51:49.460 --> 00:51:52.239 all, Oh, the only reason he's famous. Shut up. 00:51:52.639 --> 00:51:56.179 He is famous because he earned every last bit 00:51:56.179 --> 00:52:00.059 of it. And Take a Bow is such a perfect song 00:52:00.059 --> 00:52:03.780 to kind of close this playlist up. Not because 00:52:03.780 --> 00:52:06.380 of the fact that he's playing his father's original 00:52:06.380 --> 00:52:10.579 Frankenstein guitar through an original Marshall 00:52:10.579 --> 00:52:14.900 head and a cabinet used on the early Van Halen 00:52:14.900 --> 00:52:17.760 album. So just there alone for the music nerds 00:52:17.760 --> 00:52:20.159 out there, that tone that you're hearing in the 00:52:20.159 --> 00:52:23.530 guitar. Is him channeling his father literally 00:52:23.530 --> 00:52:26.670 and figuratively? I love it so much. There's 00:52:26.670 --> 00:52:29.409 such a beauty to that. And I felt bad because 00:52:29.409 --> 00:52:32.369 I feel like he had to wait to do that because 00:52:32.369 --> 00:52:35.170 everybody was judging him all the time. Right 00:52:35.170 --> 00:52:37.650 from the start. Right from the start. And he 00:52:37.650 --> 00:52:41.210 couldn't, he had to like put his dad over here 00:52:41.210 --> 00:52:44.769 and then all of a sudden kind of got into the 00:52:44.769 --> 00:52:47.650 groove and said, you know what? These people 00:52:47.650 --> 00:52:51.019 are here for me. And this is my record and I 00:52:51.019 --> 00:52:55.500 can do this now. And what we got was just what 00:52:55.500 --> 00:52:59.340 you said, just a masterpiece. That song is a 00:52:59.340 --> 00:53:02.760 masterpiece. The longest song Mammoth has ever 00:53:02.760 --> 00:53:06.539 recorded as of now. And I am happy to say that 00:53:06.539 --> 00:53:10.000 as of recording this, we are just a month and 00:53:10.000 --> 00:53:13.389 change away. Of me taking my girls to their Christmas 00:53:13.389 --> 00:53:16.369 present of the year, which is 11th row at the 00:53:16.369 --> 00:53:18.769 wind Creek in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, beautiful 00:53:18.769 --> 00:53:22.789 mammoth and 10 years. Because again, I need to 00:53:22.789 --> 00:53:25.230 take them to as many different rock artists as 00:53:25.230 --> 00:53:27.949 I can. And I think they need to see mammoth. 00:53:27.989 --> 00:53:30.030 I think they need to experience that because 00:53:30.030 --> 00:53:32.889 one day when he's playing stadiums, they're going 00:53:32.889 --> 00:53:35.289 to say, I saw him when, and I'm going to say 00:53:35.289 --> 00:53:38.750 that's because of me and take a bow. Just feels 00:53:38.750 --> 00:53:43.159 like it's a nice close. lyrically and musically 00:53:43.159 --> 00:53:46.360 for tonight's post -2000s power ballad playlist. 00:53:46.719 --> 00:53:50.039 Yeah, and probably my favorite Mammoth song ever. 00:53:50.119 --> 00:53:53.840 So yeah, and I'm a Mammoth maniac. I love Wolfgang. 00:53:53.940 --> 00:53:55.940 I love everything that that whole band does. 00:53:56.019 --> 00:53:58.579 They're just brilliant. And so I'm glad you picked 00:53:58.579 --> 00:54:00.659 my favorite song from one of my favorite bands 00:54:00.659 --> 00:54:04.079 to close out today. Well, that, folks, is the 00:54:04.079 --> 00:54:06.780 second half of this post -2000s power ballad 00:54:06.780 --> 00:54:09.500 playlist, which kicked off with Shinedown's I'll 00:54:09.500 --> 00:54:12.079 Follow You, followed up by Hailstorm's Familiar 00:54:12.079 --> 00:54:15.000 Taste of Poison, The Struts' Merry Go Round, 00:54:15.340 --> 00:54:18.420 Velvet Revolver's Fall to Pieces, and Mammoth's 00:54:18.420 --> 00:54:21.360 Take a Bow. Head over to myweeklymixtape .com 00:54:21.360 --> 00:54:23.380 to hear all the songs we've discussed in this 00:54:23.380 --> 00:54:26.760 mix through the playlist embedded on the episode 00:54:26.760 --> 00:54:32.380 page. Well, Terry, that is a post -2000s power 00:54:32.380 --> 00:54:36.179 ballad playlist for the ages. This was so fun. 00:54:36.280 --> 00:54:39.480 Oh, my God. I had such a great time. I appreciate 00:54:39.480 --> 00:54:42.280 you being here to talk power ballads with me 00:54:42.280 --> 00:54:44.780 tonight. But more importantly, I also want to 00:54:44.780 --> 00:54:47.679 talk about car stereo. Why don't you tell people 00:54:47.679 --> 00:54:50.460 about the podcast and where they can connect 00:54:50.460 --> 00:54:53.099 with you on social? Because like I said at the 00:54:53.099 --> 00:54:56.219 top of the show. Your interviews have inspired 00:54:56.219 --> 00:54:59.159 me to become a better interviewer over the years. 00:54:59.280 --> 00:55:02.440 And I want my listeners to hear one of the best 00:55:02.440 --> 00:55:04.579 in the business and how you do it over there 00:55:04.579 --> 00:55:07.519 on car stereo. That is so sweet. Well, I figured 00:55:07.519 --> 00:55:10.880 I would call my podcast car stereo, C -A -R -R 00:55:10.880 --> 00:55:14.380 stereo, because I've been in people's car stereos 00:55:14.380 --> 00:55:20.579 for more than 30 years. Crazy. So, yeah, look. 00:55:21.000 --> 00:55:24.099 My terrestrial radio job fell by the wayside. 00:55:24.239 --> 00:55:27.559 So I was not going to really let all of my history 00:55:27.559 --> 00:55:30.679 and lineage in the business fall down the tube. 00:55:30.739 --> 00:55:33.119 So I love all my rock and roll family. I have 00:55:33.119 --> 00:55:34.920 great rock and roll connections with the artists 00:55:34.920 --> 00:55:37.079 have always had really. incredible, impactful 00:55:37.079 --> 00:55:39.719 conversations. So I wanted to continue that so 00:55:39.719 --> 00:55:44.019 people can find me on YouTube, Spotify, Apple, 00:55:44.159 --> 00:55:46.139 you know, wherever you get your podcasts. 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