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Welcome to My Weekly Mixtape, a podcast that

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takes the classic mixtape approach to building

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a modern playlist. I'm your host, Brian Colburn.

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Tonight, we are going to go back in time for

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a bonus TuneStyles Throwback episode because...

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This week, it's the Super Bowl. So what better

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time than to revisit this really fun episode

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that Jay Sweet and I did with Justin Pennick,

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co -host of the Talking Giants podcast, where

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we dove into some of our favorite Super Bowl

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halftime show moments of all time. Now, to put

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this in perspective, this show was recorded in

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2021 during COVID. So the Super Bowl halftime

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performances of the weekend. Dr. Dre, Snoop Dogg,

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Eminem, Mary J. Blige, and Kendrick Lamar, as

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well as Rihanna and Usher's halftime performances

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are not included in this discussion, but we are

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talking about pretty much everything else. Now,

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So let's go back in time and... wax poetic about

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Super Bowl halftime shows and apologies in advance

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if you're not a New York Giants fan, because

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this is one of the few chances in all the years

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I've been music podcasting to talk about the

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New York Giants. Jay, I've talked about music

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all the time on this show, and anyone that knows

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me knows I'm passionate about music, my kids,

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and the New York football Giants. Anybody that

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knows me. Yep, yep. One of my favorite podcasts

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that I listen to outside of the music sphere

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of all of our friends that we talk about all

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the time on the show is a show called Talking

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Giants. And I am very excited to bring one of

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the hosts of Talking Giants onto TuneStyles today

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to talk a little sports music with us. It's very

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exciting. Yeah, so please welcome Justin Penick

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from Talking Giants. Justin, thank you for joining

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us, man. Brian and Jay, it's awesome to be on

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with you guys. This is honestly... A great honor,

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because usually when I'm asked for interviews,

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it's about, oh, just let's just talk about football.

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And eventually you talk so much football, it

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kind of gets a little tiring. You kind of get

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a little kind of gets a little old. But this

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is so fun. Like this is, you know, I'm about

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maybe two years into this whole podcasting thing.

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And this is one of the first times I'm not really

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like talking sports, which is kind of cool, kind

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of neat. Yes. So because you said you don't like

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going on shows and talking about football and

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talking about sports, Jay, why don't we ask him

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some questions about football and sports before

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we get to that? Yeah, right. Considering that

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the show is Dr. Day and I'm right. Considering

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that the show that you host is about Giants football.

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Now, in full disclosure, I am not a fan of the

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blue. Now, I rooted for the blue. What was it?

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Ninety ninety two. When they won? Against the

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Bills? Yeah. 90 -91 against the Bills. Yeah,

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91. That was the one. Because I am a Dolphins

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fan, and I have to root against the Bills. Right.

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So I was very happy that the Giants did win in

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91. And for a little while, I admit that I did

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carry a little bit of, all right, if I'm going

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to live in New York, I might as well. Go blue

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for, you know, for at least, you know, as long

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as the Dolphins suck, which unfortunately, what's

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the running tally in the 37 years since they've

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seen it? seeing the turf inside a Super Bowl

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stadium. Yeah, so anyway, you now have this podcast,

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Talking Giants. Tell us a little bit about how

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it came together and in its current format and

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how you and Bobby Skinner have built the program

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up over the last couple of seasons. Yeah, so

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I started a podcast in 2018 called Bleeding Blue.

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And then eventually I did that for about two

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years, 2018 season, 2019 season. Did it with

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a good buddy of mine, David Powis. We found some

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success. We really hit our stride, especially

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during the summer when I was able to go to training

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camp. I did a lot of live streams, did a lot

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of social media content. We were knocking out

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podcasts. Pretty much every day in the month

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of August, we had a podcast episode out previewing

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a player. And we kind of found some momentum,

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found our stride a little bit. Bobby Skinner,

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we connected during that 2019 season. I eventually

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joined Talking Giants at the start of 2020. Giants

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is a part of John Boy Media. It's a John Boy

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Media company. It's actually funny. I started

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podcasting because of John Boy and Jake, what

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they were doing at Talking Yanks. If you're a

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Yankees fan, even if you're a baseball fan, I

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feel like you know the John Boy Media YouTube

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channel and their breakdowns. So I started podcasting

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because of him, even before he had the YouTube

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channel, even before he did the breakdowns. And

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now to kind of be with that company, to be in

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their company and to be a company man, kind of

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two years later, like I've said before, I'm kind

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of young. It's kind of like a dream come true,

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so to speak. So Bobby Skinner, we connected during

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2019 season, had a lot of success during 2020

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when I joined Talking Giants. And we're looking

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forward to attacking the offseason. And we're

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growing on the YouTubes. We're now the highest

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rated and most rated Giants podcast in the world.

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It's kind of very proud to say that and very

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humble, very thankful to say that. So yeah, we're

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gonna have a lot of fun. So we're gonna talk

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Super Bowl. halftime shows now see now i don't

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think it's entirely accurate to say what was

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your favorite performance because this is going

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to be all subjective as to who our favorite artists

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are right not necessarily you see tom petty's

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was my favorite performance because i was there

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well and he's your favorite he is your favorite

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he is my favorite artist so that that just timed

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out perfectly but as a third prong to that i

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made 20 bucks off that halftime show there you

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go because during the second quarter they handed

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everybody a sheet of paper and said be ready

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to sing along with these tom petty classics so

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i called my folks and bet them 20 bucks that

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i can predict the entire set list in order and

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they took me up on it and as soon as as soon

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as halftime was over my father called me up and

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said They gave you the lyrics to something. You're

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so full of shit. There's no way you guessed that.

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Put one over on your parents. Wow, man. But we

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flew into Vegas before the Super Bowl, and I

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actually threw 20 bucks on Eli winning the MVP

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and the Giants winning. We ended up winning a

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couple hundred bucks, which paid for, I don't

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know, one tenth of one of the tickets. But it

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felt good. It felt good. So, yeah. So you're

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right, Jay. These are Super Bowl halftime shows,

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but some of them like trivia. Does anyone on

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that know who the first Super Bowl halftime show

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was? No, not not at all. And there's a reason

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for that. For the first two decades of the Super

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Bowl halftime show, it wasn't the musical experience

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that we have known. It's not the spectacle. It

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was. The Super Bowl one featured the University

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of Arizona Symphonic Marching Band, Grambling

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State University Marching Band, Al Hurt, and

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the Anaheim High School Anaheim Steppers Drill

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Team and Flag Girls. Wow. The halftime shows

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used to be like the Rose Bowl parades. It was

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all marching bands. Sure. And they always went

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above and beyond for the Super Bowl to get the

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biggest and best marching bands. Much later into

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the Super Bowl story that rock artists started

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joining the fold. The first rock artist that

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we would call rock to perform at the Super Bowl

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would be Super Bowl 22, 1988, when Chubby Checker

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came out and performed with the Rockettes. And

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even then, that was more towards the marching

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band side of things. But they were just dabbling

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and testing the waters with Chubby Checker. That's

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how it slowly morphed into the Super Bowl that

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we know today, the halftime show. Well, I think

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what happened in Super Bowl XXI, the beginning

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of the halftime show, because that's the Super

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Bowl that also the Giants are in. Giants won

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against the Denver Broncos 39 -20. Yes. George

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Burns comes out of his balloon, comes out of

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some Disney balloon with Snow White. Snow White

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on his arm, cigar in the other hand. And he said,

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pretty girl, little too young for me. And I'm

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thinking to myself, how Georgie, Georgie, how

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young do you need him? And he's smoking this

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cigar and then he introduces the band. So I think

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maybe they looked at themselves at that point.

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It's like, yeah, maybe let's not get I don't

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know who George Burns is, by the way. He seems

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like a wild guy. Let's not have George Burns

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come out of a Disney balloon of Mickey Mouse,

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Mickey Mouse ears with snow white on his arms

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and saying, cute, cute girl, a little too young

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for me. Let's change it up and let's get some

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more. Let's get some better accent here. Yeah.

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Yeah, well, my parents, where I told you the

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story of how I went to with my wife to the 2007

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Super Bowl, my grandfather was actually one of

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the labor foremen that helped build the original

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Giants stadium. So my father had been on the

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Giants list for many years up until that point.

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And that's how my parents ended up with Giants

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season tickets. And they went to. Super Bowl

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21. I was out there with them, but I stayed with

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my uncle and cousins for that day and watched

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the game at home while they were at the Rose

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Bowl. But it was still I asked him, what do you

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think of the halftime show? He goes, interesting.

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It was there. But it wasn't like when we went,

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my dad's like, you know, you get to see Tom Petty

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and I got to see, you know, the land of make

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believe marching band songs. It's definitely

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come a long way. Now, again, after Chubby Checker,

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Jay, Super Bowl 23. They brought out an Elvis

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impersonator. What? I can't even. An Elvis impersonator

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called Elvis. I can't even say it. Elvis Presto.

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Oh, no. And they did a mix of like stray cats

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and Elvis songs. And it was really, really bad.

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Really bad. And this is 1989. Now, I'm going

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to remind you, in 1989, I was almost 15. won

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Super Bowl XXIII. I mean, that just goes to show

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you guys, there's not a lot of Super Bowls that

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we are, you know, we're still young into this

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thing. And then Super Bowl XXV, which was another

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Giants Super Bowl, Jay, you know where I'm keeping

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this connected here. That's the one I'm fairly

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sure I watched, maybe not entirely sober. Well,

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that was the new kids on the block where the

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halftime show along with Disney characters again,

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because Walt Disney did the Super Bowl. But the

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difference was, and I remember this visually

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because we were at my parents' friend's house.

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They showed the halftime performance after the

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game because it was right during Operation Desert

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Storm. And they cut to the news during halftime

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because of everything going on. But I remember

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watching new kids on the block. And, you know,

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at the time I was. In high school, I was like,

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okay, so they did pop acts. And this is where

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the NFL said, wait a minute, we're onto something

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here. And the rest, honestly, for the most part,

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is history of rock acts becoming into it. And

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I don't want to name any other ones now because

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I'd like to try to get into some of all of our

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favorites here at the Topic at Hand. So, Justin,

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being our guest, you got 54 different choices

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here. What are some of your favorite Super Bowl

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moments? So there are some obvious ones, and

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I want to save some obvious ones, but there was

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some that I was rewatching. I kind of want to

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start off with Diana Ross in 1996. Okay. I have

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a whole thing. I have a whole thing. There was

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so much going on. There was too much going on.

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And Diana Ross, not typically football music

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where you want to get pumped up and get ready

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for the second half and party. Bruce Springsteen,

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absolute party. That was a party like the energy

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that he brought. Diana Ross brings energy. It's

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a different kind of energy. But there were so

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many dancers on the stage, so many people on

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the field being part of the show. And this is

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before they had fans. This is before they had

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fans actually on the field. And they were part

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of the show where it feels like more like a concert.

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Right. But there were people on the field and

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they were bumping into each other like they were

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all a part of the show. The camera would go onto

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the field and people. Oh, excuse me. They were

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squirming. So early on to the show, they also

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released like probably a thousand balloons in

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the air. And I'm thinking to myself, well, what

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was the aftermath of that? Where did they go?

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What section did they land in? Or just people

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outside the state? And I'm talking about like

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thousands. And it wasn't individual balloons.

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They were all just together. They just released

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them into the air. We don't care. Okay, so her

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costume changes were awesome. Now kind of like

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to the music, to the show. Her costume changes

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were awesome. Whenever a child choir is used,

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it pulls up my heartstrings. You get some bonus

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points. I think Bruno Mars used a child choir

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to start. It automatically gets the goosebumps

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flowing in you. I get goosebumps during Ain't

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No Mountain High Enough, church choir vibe, and

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child choir, so you get double bonus points.

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She ends with I Will Survive with more costume

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changes, and then a helicopter appears. And she

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says, oh, here comes my ride. She gets on this

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helicopter, sits on the edge and just flies away.

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That was the halftime show. So and I'm also thinking

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to myself, there are hundreds of people on this

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field. There are so many dancers on this stage.

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Where are they landing this helicopter? They

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landed it right on the stage. They strap her

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in. She waves and flies away. Take me higher.

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That was the song that that was playing as she

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was flying away. Oh, my God. The puns, the puns,

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the puns. She's like flying through the air going,

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you get it yet? You get it? You see a song playing?

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I'm up here now. So it was low key a favorite

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of mine. You know, there's some obvious favorites

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and I think we'll get to it. But that was an

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underrated one where it was part of like Diana

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Ross is awesome. You know, she has insane hits,

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great hits, but doesn't really fit football.

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And there was just so much going on. All right,

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I'm going to see you with that one, and I'm going

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to follow up with my number three, Jay, if you

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don't mind, because this is actually the year

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following the one Justin just mentioned. This

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was Super Bowl 31, and it took place in 1997.

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And the lineup, to me, was just one of the coolest

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lineups you ever got at the Super Bowl. The Blues

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Brothers, ZZ Top, and James friggin' Brown. Now,

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on paper, you're like, that seems a little odd.

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But you get the Blues Brothers coming out on

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stage. You had Jim Belushi playing the role for

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John. And you had John Goodman in his role that

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he would eventually play in Blues Brothers 2000

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on stage. You had the full Blues Brothers band.

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They come out with Everybody Needs Somebody to

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Love, which my wedding theme was based on the

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Blues Brothers for our entrances. And then Soul

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Man. That was like their quote unquote hit from

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television. And as they're finishing that, James

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Brown follows up on stage and they go into, I

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got you, I feel good, and get up, sex machine.

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As only James Brown can do it. And you're thinking,

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wow, that's odd. That's like a weird transition.

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And then all of a sudden, the Eliminator drives

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out onto the field. Up on stage is ZZ Top for

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Tush and Legs. And then all the artists, Blues

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Brothers, ZZ Top, and James Brown do Gimme Some

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Lovin' by the Spencer Davis Group. And they jam

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it out. Now, obviously, they're all singing to

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backing tracks. We know. You're not fooling anybody.

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We get it. We understand. These are not live

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performances. And we'll talk about this when

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we get to Bruno Mars at some point. But we know

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that these were either pre -recorded or they're

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using the... actual song the studio recording

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and just kind of throwing some reverb on it which

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i think that's exactly what they did for uh zz

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top songs but don't hold me to that i think james

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brown's vocals and the blues brothers vocals

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were pre -recorded but regardless they have to

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do that for technical reasons because as like

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justin mentioned you're wheeling out three stages

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and 5 000 people for a 15 minute performance

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that you don't have time to sit there and get

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mics checked and everything else. And you're

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not just going to run a mixer off of one of these

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floating stages and just plug in an XLR and be

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like, all right, send it out to 10 million people.

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So we get it. It's the spectacle that goes along

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with the songs. So that was definitely a spectacle.

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I love the Blues Brothers. They're iconic in

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pop culture. And then, I mean, ZZ Top is legendary.

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And James Brown, one of the greatest soul artists

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of all time. I mean, that was just a fun who's

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who. I just vividly remember watching it as a

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kid, loving it, saying, like, this was a hell

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of a lot of fun. And it was the first Super Bowl

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that I remembered that was that much fun, even

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more so than Michael Jackson. And I, you know,

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just because of all these different artists coming

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together. So, Jay? So, you want to get to Bruno

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Mars. That would be my number three. And I'll

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say this. Look, Bruno Mars, I like Beyonce. I

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think she does really, really well. Coldplay,

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I... Take it or leave it. I'm not a big fan of

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Coldplay. But when they revealed Bruno Mars in

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for the Uptown Funk with Mark Ronson was just

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unbelievable. And that cemented, I think, Bruno

00:17:55.319 --> 00:17:59.279
Mars' place in pop royalty. That was such a fun

00:17:59.279 --> 00:18:02.480
performance. That performance was one of those

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ones where when I was watching it, I said, you

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know what? We're looking at a future legend.

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Like this is a guy whose name I think you will

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be hearing 30 years from now because he showed

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off his prowess behind the drums. He rocked out,

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obviously bringing the chili peppers up here.

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Here's where my, my little rant on the prerecorded

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flea on purpose, didn't plug his basin and was

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jumping up around and spinning around and like

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at some points he would even hold the base showing

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it was not plugged in. That was just his way

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of like, this is all fake, but we're having fun

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up here. That's like the middle finger that as

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only the Chili Peppers could do it. But the way

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that Bruno Mars and his band conducted himself

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on that stage, you saw somebody that could span

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generations. My parents were sitting there going,

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this guy is awesome. Obviously, my kids were

00:18:56.079 --> 00:18:58.079
there losing their minds because they love that

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song at the time. And they were really young

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at the time. And my wife and I saw three generations

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of people enjoying one artist. That speaks to

00:19:04.619 --> 00:19:07.799
longevity. And that has not happened a lot in

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the 2010s. A lot of the times I'm sitting there

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going. Right. And there's like a group of people

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that really love it. Like Coldplay. Sorry, Coldplay.

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I'll say, I mean, I don't hate them. I just I've

00:19:22.099 --> 00:19:24.670
never been a huge fan. That was probably one

00:19:24.670 --> 00:19:27.970
of my least favorite Super Bowl halftime performances.

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I get it. They're hugely popular. Sorry to all

00:19:31.769 --> 00:19:34.130
the Coldplay fans out there. I just felt like

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it was watered down compared to some of the other

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Super Bowls. I feel like some of the Coldplay

00:19:39.450 --> 00:19:43.269
fans feel like it's very culty. Like you either

00:19:43.269 --> 00:19:45.589
you love them and you really love them. Like

00:19:45.589 --> 00:19:48.950
that Coldplay is your go to. Or it's like, eh,

00:19:49.089 --> 00:19:51.569
you can kind of do without. And people that really

00:19:51.569 --> 00:19:53.789
love it get on you. A little culty. A little

00:19:53.789 --> 00:19:55.789
bit. Yeah, I could definitely, that's a good

00:19:55.789 --> 00:19:58.349
way to put it. And then pretty much with all

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halftime shows or life in general at that point,

00:20:01.309 --> 00:20:03.069
you always have to be on the lookout for that

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moment that could become bigger than the event

00:20:05.130 --> 00:20:08.069
itself. And in the case of the J -Lo and Shakira

00:20:08.069 --> 00:20:12.170
performance, the meme that came from Shakira's

00:20:12.170 --> 00:20:14.750
part of the performance lived on for several

00:20:14.750 --> 00:20:17.950
weeks after the performance. Katy Perry with

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the shark with left shark. Yeah, for sure. Left

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shark. And then obviously the big one will slip.

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Yeah. I mean, really, does anybody name one song

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Janet Jackson performed during that whole set?

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Either one of you go ahead. Don't look it up.

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You see, you can't. No one can. I didn't. To

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be honest. I mean, and listen, we joke and it's

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funny and it's true. But the only I only saw

00:20:39.150 --> 00:20:42.490
that on on replays on the news because I was

00:20:42.490 --> 00:20:45.309
working that night. And I could not see the game.

00:20:45.349 --> 00:20:47.430
And I couldn't watch the halftime show because

00:20:47.430 --> 00:20:50.450
I'm covering it. So there was no way for me to

00:20:50.450 --> 00:20:52.170
even know what was going on. And when I saw it

00:20:52.170 --> 00:20:54.039
afterwards, I... I mean, I could have told you

00:20:54.039 --> 00:20:55.700
what she's saying. Didn't she do Rhythm Nation?

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I could. Maybe. But the point is, and I'm not

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saying that the performance was bad. I'm saying

00:21:00.240 --> 00:21:05.240
that the story event of that happening overshadowed

00:21:05.240 --> 00:21:06.920
anything that possibly could have happened. And

00:21:06.920 --> 00:21:09.940
in the world we live in now with instant access

00:21:09.940 --> 00:21:12.500
to millions of people's opinions, that's why

00:21:12.500 --> 00:21:16.269
Left Shark. Right. Became such a big thing for

00:21:16.269 --> 00:21:18.670
Katy Perry. Again, overshadowing the performance.

00:21:18.930 --> 00:21:21.490
So funny. And like I mentioned, the Shakira meme

00:21:21.490 --> 00:21:25.369
from last year. I loved JLo and Shakira. One,

00:21:25.710 --> 00:21:28.970
there are three main beats of that performance

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that did it for me, that put this into the top

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three for me. One, two Latina ladies who were

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singing in their own language, which I think

00:21:39.410 --> 00:21:41.730
a lot of times, I've told you a couple of times,

00:21:41.789 --> 00:21:45.099
Bri, where a few of the the artists from New

00:21:45.099 --> 00:21:47.200
York City would come through New York One when

00:21:47.200 --> 00:21:48.740
I was working up there and they would bring,

00:21:48.859 --> 00:21:50.779
you know, we would get to interview them for

00:21:50.779 --> 00:21:53.339
New York One Noticias, which was great. I love

00:21:53.339 --> 00:21:55.819
Spanish pop. Like, I think it's amazing. It's

00:21:55.819 --> 00:21:58.240
a lot of fun. It's sexy. It's great. It's good

00:21:58.240 --> 00:22:00.319
music. There's a reason why so many of those

00:22:00.319 --> 00:22:03.160
songs cross over to American pop radio. 100%.

00:22:03.160 --> 00:22:06.400
100%. And I think they brought that to the table

00:22:06.400 --> 00:22:09.839
and I think that was a first, really, in terms

00:22:09.839 --> 00:22:13.269
of Super Bowl halftime shows. Secondly, Both

00:22:13.269 --> 00:22:16.049
of those women are in their 40s, are they not?

00:22:16.670 --> 00:22:22.369
And I'm sorry, they were singing? They both looked

00:22:22.369 --> 00:22:25.509
amazing. And the production quality of the show

00:22:25.509 --> 00:22:28.650
was top notch. I mean, yes, it was frenetic.

00:22:28.670 --> 00:22:30.349
It was crazy. It was all over the place. But

00:22:30.349 --> 00:22:32.869
that's the feel of that music. And I completely

00:22:32.869 --> 00:22:35.309
understand. But my thing was, I felt like they

00:22:35.309 --> 00:22:37.950
tried to cram too many songs in. You've got like

00:22:37.950 --> 00:22:40.930
this 12 minute time limit. Okay. And where like

00:22:40.930 --> 00:22:43.730
the other side of the spectrum, when Tom Petty

00:22:43.730 --> 00:22:46.289
performed, he did four songs. And he did most

00:22:46.289 --> 00:22:48.329
of each of those songs. Same thing with Springsteen

00:22:48.329 --> 00:22:49.849
when they did the whole classic rock run. They

00:22:49.849 --> 00:22:53.190
did two or three, maybe four songs. Kind of at

00:22:53.190 --> 00:22:55.349
the point that Justin was talking about earlier.

00:22:56.109 --> 00:22:58.829
The Black Eyed Peas was when they started mashing

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in different bands and guest appearances really

00:23:01.130 --> 00:23:04.490
heavily and trying to put in as many songs as

00:23:04.490 --> 00:23:10.369
possible where it becomes a medley. But depending

00:23:10.369 --> 00:23:13.890
on the pace of that medley, it just again, I

00:23:13.890 --> 00:23:16.670
knew. I'd say three quarters of the songs that

00:23:16.670 --> 00:23:19.670
they performed and 25 % I didn't know, but they

00:23:19.670 --> 00:23:21.950
were changing so fast. I almost felt myself having

00:23:21.950 --> 00:23:23.690
a hard time keeping up. That was my only critique.

00:23:23.809 --> 00:23:26.470
I thought the performance was fantastic. I think

00:23:26.470 --> 00:23:29.170
all the performances on these, honestly, there's

00:23:29.170 --> 00:23:33.769
never really been a, maybe Elvis Presto. But

00:23:33.769 --> 00:23:36.009
Brian, like you said, if they're, you know, they're

00:23:36.009 --> 00:23:39.170
fitting in so many songs in a span of 12 minutes,

00:23:39.309 --> 00:23:42.529
right? With multiple artists. And that's, I actually,

00:23:42.650 --> 00:23:45.359
this is a little bit of a, Hot take, but it's

00:23:45.359 --> 00:23:48.759
just how I felt at the time. I didn't fully appreciate

00:23:48.759 --> 00:23:51.559
what JLo and Shakira did until I was able to

00:23:51.559 --> 00:23:53.819
rewatch the performance the next day on YouTube.

00:23:54.400 --> 00:23:57.000
At the time, I felt overwhelmed. I felt like,

00:23:57.039 --> 00:23:59.440
whoa, that was too much. We were running around.

00:23:59.579 --> 00:24:02.880
We were doing a lot. The brilliance of those

00:24:02.880 --> 00:24:05.079
two women, even before they stepped on the stage,

00:24:05.160 --> 00:24:08.339
was very apparent. After the performance, it

00:24:08.339 --> 00:24:10.660
was done, especially Super Bowl halftime shows.

00:24:10.740 --> 00:24:13.539
I feel like they have the tendency to take a

00:24:13.539 --> 00:24:16.140
little long. The beginning is always like, all

00:24:16.140 --> 00:24:17.759
right, what are we getting into here? Which is

00:24:17.759 --> 00:24:19.660
why I think Bruno Mars' beginning was awesome

00:24:19.660 --> 00:24:22.440
with the child choir and then drums. It's like,

00:24:22.460 --> 00:24:27.079
okay, we're in. Two big Ws right there. So it

00:24:27.079 --> 00:24:28.759
took me until the next day to really appreciate

00:24:28.759 --> 00:24:30.740
their greatness because of kind of how much was

00:24:30.740 --> 00:24:33.259
going on, Brian. But Jay and Brian, I agree with

00:24:33.259 --> 00:24:35.160
kind of both of your points. It was brilliant.

00:24:36.230 --> 00:24:39.130
two awesomely talented women, but it also was

00:24:39.130 --> 00:24:40.809
a lot. And that's the risk that you run with

00:24:40.809 --> 00:24:42.970
fitting in too much in the span of 12 minutes

00:24:42.970 --> 00:24:44.910
to make it so much of a production. Sure, and

00:24:44.910 --> 00:24:47.369
I'm sure that both of them were so excited that

00:24:47.369 --> 00:24:49.849
they just wanted to get as much, you know, in

00:24:49.849 --> 00:24:52.329
there of their own catalogs as they possibly

00:24:52.329 --> 00:24:55.009
could. But it was a true testament to where you're

00:24:55.009 --> 00:24:56.630
sitting there going, oh, I know that one, I know

00:24:56.630 --> 00:24:59.200
that one too. Because, you know, being... Jay,

00:24:59.299 --> 00:25:01.960
we have talked about this over the last 15 years,

00:25:02.059 --> 00:25:04.500
how we've gravitated away from radio and the

00:25:04.500 --> 00:25:07.200
radio that we do get is, you know, you're in

00:25:07.200 --> 00:25:09.480
the car with somebody and they'll change the

00:25:09.480 --> 00:25:11.440
station. Maybe they listen to the radio more

00:25:11.440 --> 00:25:13.720
than I do. And you'll catch a song here or there,

00:25:13.779 --> 00:25:16.369
but it's not. The same where everybody was listening

00:25:16.369 --> 00:25:18.529
to specific stations and we all kind of honed

00:25:18.529 --> 00:25:21.450
in in the 80s and early 90s where we had our

00:25:21.450 --> 00:25:24.029
cluster of stations and we knew the music we

00:25:24.029 --> 00:25:26.309
were getting out of it. Now it's very much music's

00:25:26.309 --> 00:25:28.230
coming from everywhere. And I think a lot of

00:25:28.230 --> 00:25:31.349
songs are in our vernacular, but we don't necessarily

00:25:31.349 --> 00:25:35.430
know them until they're presented to the world.

00:25:35.509 --> 00:25:38.930
And one example of that would be the song Zombie

00:25:38.930 --> 00:25:41.650
Nation. Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure. Most people,

00:25:41.670 --> 00:25:44.089
when they hear that. What? I've never heard that

00:25:44.089 --> 00:25:47.170
song. Yes, you have. Yes, you have. And they'll

00:25:47.170 --> 00:25:49.029
argue with you. I've never heard a song called

00:25:49.029 --> 00:25:50.869
Zombie Nation. And yes, you have. And then when

00:25:50.869 --> 00:25:53.230
they hear it, oh, that's what that's called?

00:25:53.509 --> 00:25:55.970
And that's a good example of what I was going

00:25:55.970 --> 00:25:59.269
with there. It was very exciting when Daddy Yankee

00:25:59.269 --> 00:26:03.000
crossed over with Despacito. And it just helped

00:26:03.000 --> 00:26:06.519
propel that momentum of what Shakira was doing,

00:26:06.660 --> 00:26:09.200
what J -Lo was doing. And I mean, Shakira has

00:26:09.200 --> 00:26:12.079
done many, many Spanish -speaking albums. And

00:26:12.079 --> 00:26:15.339
they're fantastic. The music's great. And her

00:26:15.339 --> 00:26:19.759
voice is brilliant. I enjoy her 100%. I don't

00:26:19.759 --> 00:26:21.720
always understand everything she's saying, and

00:26:21.720 --> 00:26:24.859
that's okay. Music is a universal language. I

00:26:24.859 --> 00:26:27.079
think we've all said that many times in our lives,

00:26:27.140 --> 00:26:29.299
let alone on this show. But for the most part,

00:26:29.440 --> 00:26:32.779
I mean, J -Lo playing Selena and bringing Tejano

00:26:32.779 --> 00:26:35.859
music into the pop culture, really opening up

00:26:35.859 --> 00:26:39.099
those doors. Gloria Estefan, for crying out loud.

00:26:39.279 --> 00:26:42.619
And Miami Sound Machine was also a Super Bowl

00:26:42.619 --> 00:26:44.440
halftime performer in the 90s. They were, because

00:26:44.440 --> 00:26:49.039
if I'm not mistaken, Mr. and Mrs. Gloria Estefan,

00:26:49.470 --> 00:26:51.450
are part owners or were part owners of the Miami

00:26:51.450 --> 00:26:53.829
Dolphins. Oh, I did not know that Dolphins fan.

00:26:53.950 --> 00:26:56.970
Yes, I do. So, Justin, we still have a bunch

00:26:56.970 --> 00:26:58.869
of Super Bowl halftime shows to talk about. So

00:26:58.869 --> 00:27:04.150
what's your number two? My number two. Now, I

00:27:04.150 --> 00:27:07.190
just publicly bashed him on social media because

00:27:07.190 --> 00:27:11.089
I do not like his voice. But again, Super Bowl

00:27:11.089 --> 00:27:12.789
halftime show more a little bit more about a

00:27:12.789 --> 00:27:15.569
performance. Bruce Springsteen is my number two

00:27:15.569 --> 00:27:17.670
Super Bowl halftime show. I rewatched it today.

00:27:18.400 --> 00:27:20.460
And I was thinking to myself, let's just give

00:27:20.460 --> 00:27:22.140
it a try. Let's just let's just give it a try.

00:27:22.160 --> 00:27:25.480
Give Bruce a chance is usually for somebody who

00:27:25.480 --> 00:27:27.720
never really listens to Bruce because I just

00:27:27.720 --> 00:27:29.579
I don't like the sound of his voice. It's not

00:27:29.579 --> 00:27:32.180
pleasing to my ears. And this is somebody from

00:27:32.180 --> 00:27:34.859
New Jersey. And that is that's a sin to say.

00:27:34.960 --> 00:27:37.759
And I recognize that I recognize I'm a bad guy.

00:27:37.839 --> 00:27:39.839
I recognize this. OK, you're a traitor to your

00:27:39.839 --> 00:27:43.430
kind, Justin. I am. I really am. I actually lost

00:27:43.430 --> 00:27:45.710
15 followers because of some of my beliefs on

00:27:45.710 --> 00:27:47.809
Bruce Springsteen. Wow. This past weekend. Yeah.

00:27:47.930 --> 00:27:51.809
Note to self, don't bash the boss. Check. It

00:27:51.809 --> 00:27:55.450
was a good tip down. But I watched it and I said,

00:27:55.509 --> 00:27:59.150
man, I hate myself for not loving the boss. I

00:27:59.150 --> 00:28:01.730
hate myself for not loving him because the energy

00:28:01.730 --> 00:28:04.750
that he brought, it made the rest of the E Street

00:28:04.750 --> 00:28:07.049
Band look like they were sleeping. And that's

00:28:07.049 --> 00:28:09.029
nothing against the E Street Band. And also there's

00:28:09.029 --> 00:28:11.500
an iconic shot. When he slides with the guitar,

00:28:11.680 --> 00:28:14.819
the crotch shot just right into the camera. And

00:28:14.819 --> 00:28:17.619
he's laughing. He's laughing because he knows

00:28:17.619 --> 00:28:20.859
America just got to see his crotch. And then

00:28:20.859 --> 00:28:23.720
he gets up and he still continues to play. So

00:28:23.720 --> 00:28:26.259
what a halftime show. Even though, like I said,

00:28:26.359 --> 00:28:28.259
don't like the sound of his voice, at least record

00:28:28.259 --> 00:28:30.339
it. I think live is a little bit better. It's

00:28:30.339 --> 00:28:33.059
a little bit more pleasing to the ears. But yeah,

00:28:33.119 --> 00:28:35.960
what a halftime show. What a show. Bruce Springsteen's

00:28:35.960 --> 00:28:38.940
performance was. up there with Tom Petty's to

00:28:38.940 --> 00:28:40.599
me. It didn't make my top three list because

00:28:40.599 --> 00:28:43.880
I have another one at number two. Obviously,

00:28:43.880 --> 00:28:45.940
there's no shock what my number one is, so we'll

00:28:45.940 --> 00:28:49.539
just wait for later for that. But Bruce Springsteen's

00:28:49.539 --> 00:28:54.799
was a classic example of how a rock band can

00:28:54.799 --> 00:28:58.779
bring the house down. They came out on that stage

00:28:58.779 --> 00:29:02.210
and tore it up. And they're a stadium band. So

00:29:02.210 --> 00:29:06.130
this is what they do. They're made to play stadiums.

00:29:06.130 --> 00:29:08.890
You're not going to see a Bruce Springsteen in

00:29:08.890 --> 00:29:12.250
the E Street Band at a Birch Hill nightclub or

00:29:12.250 --> 00:29:14.569
a Starland Ballroom. I'd love to. On Broadway?

00:29:15.569 --> 00:29:17.890
On Broadway, but that was just him and a guitar

00:29:17.890 --> 00:29:24.829
at $700 a ticket. Yeah, I guess. So Jada, did

00:29:24.829 --> 00:29:28.029
Bruce make your top three? No, no. Okay. No,

00:29:28.089 --> 00:29:31.309
but I enjoyed that performance for sure. Yeah.

00:29:31.369 --> 00:29:37.009
My number two now is from 2007, the year before

00:29:37.009 --> 00:29:42.369
Tom Petty. And it was the best example of how

00:29:42.369 --> 00:29:46.470
taking a medley of songs and making it work and

00:29:46.470 --> 00:29:52.529
being so iconic as a moment in music history

00:29:52.529 --> 00:29:57.799
is Prince's Super Bowl 41 performance. Yep. opening

00:29:57.799 --> 00:30:01.000
up with the we will rock you intro from queen

00:30:01.000 --> 00:30:04.299
which everybody knows is like the sports anthem

00:30:04.299 --> 00:30:08.460
let's just be honest and then the opening organ

00:30:08.460 --> 00:30:12.819
of let's go crazy there's no like really that

00:30:12.819 --> 00:30:15.380
was taylor made and then the rest of his performance

00:30:15.380 --> 00:30:18.920
by bringing out in doing proud mary and all along

00:30:18.920 --> 00:30:22.599
the watchtower and then a friggin foo fighter

00:30:22.599 --> 00:30:25.319
song Because the Foo Fighters covered Darling

00:30:25.319 --> 00:30:28.059
Nikki back in the 90s when the color and the

00:30:28.059 --> 00:30:30.740
shape came out and Prince heard it and liked

00:30:30.740 --> 00:30:33.940
it and kind of extended his love for the Foo

00:30:33.940 --> 00:30:37.119
Fighters with his version of Best of You, which,

00:30:37.220 --> 00:30:42.779
my God, dude, is just incredible. And then ending

00:30:42.779 --> 00:30:46.839
the performance on Purple Rain during a real

00:30:46.839 --> 00:30:52.019
honest to God rainstorm. Yeah. I mean, really.

00:30:52.589 --> 00:30:57.490
This was just such a perfect moment. Yeah. The

00:30:57.490 --> 00:31:00.170
guy directing that performance must have been

00:31:00.170 --> 00:31:02.190
just sitting there going, I'm directing history.

00:31:02.349 --> 00:31:05.710
Because he was. That Purple Rain guitar solo

00:31:05.710 --> 00:31:08.869
in the pouring rain as he's just, dude, I'm getting

00:31:08.869 --> 00:31:11.549
goosebumps just reliving it, talking about it.

00:31:11.690 --> 00:31:14.210
Absolutely. That's my number one. That's your

00:31:14.210 --> 00:31:16.130
number one? That's my number one, too. Oh. Wow,

00:31:16.269 --> 00:31:17.750
I just cleared out the house with everyone's

00:31:17.750 --> 00:31:20.259
number one. There you go. Man. So back to you

00:31:20.259 --> 00:31:22.380
for your number one, which I think nobody will

00:31:22.380 --> 00:31:24.500
be surprised by. Nobody's going to be shocked

00:31:24.500 --> 00:31:26.619
about. But honestly, there's a reason, though.

00:31:27.440 --> 00:31:29.660
Being there in person. Yes, it was looking at

00:31:29.660 --> 00:31:32.259
the back of a curtain. Yeah. But I was still

00:31:32.259 --> 00:31:35.740
in the same room as Tom Petty. And it was so

00:31:35.740 --> 00:31:37.779
amazing because he's one of my favorite artists.

00:31:38.920 --> 00:31:42.059
But at the same time. We were still having fun

00:31:42.059 --> 00:31:44.140
at that point, just taking in the moment that

00:31:44.140 --> 00:31:46.539
we were at the Super Bowl. Because when I walked

00:31:46.539 --> 00:31:48.599
into that game, I kept saying to her, you know,

00:31:48.759 --> 00:31:51.519
I had my shocky jersey on. I said, you know,

00:31:51.640 --> 00:31:56.240
I'm just happy to be here. The Patriots are 18

00:31:56.240 --> 00:31:59.039
-0. My wife's whole family, my in -laws, they're

00:31:59.039 --> 00:32:01.119
all from New England. They're all Pats fans.

00:32:01.619 --> 00:32:04.420
I said, I'm just happy to be here. I literally

00:32:04.420 --> 00:32:06.380
am just thankful that I'm getting this opportunity.

00:32:07.150 --> 00:32:09.569
I know that the Giants probably won't win this

00:32:09.569 --> 00:32:11.410
one, but man, they gave them such a good run

00:32:11.410 --> 00:32:14.430
in week 16 of that season. Let's just hope for

00:32:14.430 --> 00:32:18.750
the best. And I was a calm Zen. I had my during

00:32:18.750 --> 00:32:22.430
the game. I had a Patriots fan before the game

00:32:22.430 --> 00:32:26.049
drunk come up to me as we were walking around

00:32:26.049 --> 00:32:28.390
the Super Bowl experience and start yelling in

00:32:28.390 --> 00:32:31.890
my face of how he hated Shockey. And I'm looking

00:32:31.890 --> 00:32:34.410
at my wife going, I don't want to get thrown

00:32:34.410 --> 00:32:38.019
out. And all of his friends were around him going,

00:32:38.160 --> 00:32:41.099
dude, stop it. We don't want to get thrown out.

00:32:41.819 --> 00:32:46.119
So literally, the friends brought us around while

00:32:46.119 --> 00:32:48.480
the one friend took this guy off. They're like,

00:32:48.559 --> 00:32:50.319
we're so sorry. Like, really cool Pats fans.

00:32:50.539 --> 00:32:52.720
Like, for the most part, everybody we talked

00:32:52.720 --> 00:32:54.960
with, except for the fact that they all were

00:32:54.960 --> 00:32:57.400
saying to me, hope you guys enjoyed that you

00:32:57.400 --> 00:33:00.240
paid money to watch the Giants lose because this

00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:03.200
is the crowning of the 19 -0 season and you're

00:33:03.200 --> 00:33:06.420
just here to witness it. And we were talking

00:33:06.420 --> 00:33:08.700
with a couple behind us in line that told us

00:33:08.700 --> 00:33:10.880
father and son, God bless them. They're really

00:33:10.880 --> 00:33:13.619
nice folk. And he said, you know, they asked

00:33:13.619 --> 00:33:15.940
us how much we spent for the tickets. And we,

00:33:16.000 --> 00:33:18.480
as giant season ticket holders, got them for

00:33:18.480 --> 00:33:21.980
the base price that year of a cheap $750 per

00:33:21.980 --> 00:33:25.880
ticket. Cheap, considering what they go for now.

00:33:26.180 --> 00:33:29.980
And he told me, he's like, well. My son and I

00:33:29.980 --> 00:33:32.039
have bonded over football since he was a kid,

00:33:32.079 --> 00:33:35.160
so I paid $3 ,500 a seat to watch him witness

00:33:35.160 --> 00:33:37.640
the perfect season so we could live it together.

00:33:38.059 --> 00:33:41.400
Ouch. And he goes, I'm really sorry that you

00:33:41.400 --> 00:33:44.259
and your wife wasted $1 ,500 to watch the Giants

00:33:44.259 --> 00:33:48.259
lose. And I said, chances are you're right. I

00:33:48.259 --> 00:33:51.240
said, but God forbid the Giants pull out an upset

00:33:51.240 --> 00:33:54.079
at David and Goliath's story. When you're walking

00:33:54.079 --> 00:33:59.769
to your car tonight, just say to yourself, seven

00:33:59.769 --> 00:34:04.450
thousand dollars. And I looked at my wife as

00:34:04.450 --> 00:34:06.089
we're walking to the car and said, God, I hope

00:34:06.089 --> 00:34:07.930
I don't run into that guy. He's going to murder

00:34:07.930 --> 00:34:13.070
me in this parking lot. And as luck would have

00:34:13.070 --> 00:34:16.969
it, he probably would have because they definitely

00:34:16.969 --> 00:34:19.409
pulled the upset. And by the way, thanks for

00:34:19.409 --> 00:34:21.829
that, because the Dolphins still retain the perfect

00:34:21.829 --> 00:34:25.150
season. Yes. So, Justin, I got to I got to ask

00:34:25.150 --> 00:34:27.769
being we are merging in some football talk here.

00:34:28.280 --> 00:34:31.360
As a Giant fan, that day has to resonate with

00:34:31.360 --> 00:34:34.380
you as one of the greatest moments for a Giant

00:34:34.380 --> 00:34:36.800
fan. What are some of your thoughts about that

00:34:36.800 --> 00:34:39.980
game? I mean, to me, the second Super Bowl where

00:34:39.980 --> 00:34:42.239
they beat them the second time, all that did

00:34:42.239 --> 00:34:44.960
was give me a lifetime of bragging rights against

00:34:44.960 --> 00:34:47.659
my entire in -laws and extended family. Because

00:34:47.659 --> 00:34:49.360
every time I go up there, they pick on me about

00:34:49.360 --> 00:34:51.380
the Giants. And over the last, I don't know,

00:34:51.400 --> 00:34:53.039
seven years, they've had a good thing. But I

00:34:53.039 --> 00:34:55.480
always look at them and go. We beat you twice

00:34:55.480 --> 00:34:58.119
in the Super Bowl. The Patriots have to beat

00:34:58.119 --> 00:35:00.300
the Giants three times in the Super Bowl before

00:35:00.300 --> 00:35:04.119
you're allowed to talk shit to me. So I think

00:35:04.119 --> 00:35:07.840
I've got at least my lifetime of leniency now.

00:35:08.440 --> 00:35:12.179
Especially what that second one did is it. That

00:35:12.179 --> 00:35:15.159
cemented Eli Manning's legacy. 100%. Because

00:35:15.159 --> 00:35:18.820
that was his team. That was on his arm. That

00:35:18.820 --> 00:35:21.599
was on his back. So that was awesome to see if

00:35:21.599 --> 00:35:23.980
you were just an Eli fan. And then especially

00:35:23.980 --> 00:35:26.019
since Michael K's show, he actually said that

00:35:26.019 --> 00:35:28.179
summer. I feel like I'm an elite quarterback.

00:35:28.500 --> 00:35:31.780
They asked him one of these cliche phrases, do

00:35:31.780 --> 00:35:33.699
you think you're elite? And Eli Manning's not

00:35:33.699 --> 00:35:35.420
going to come out and say no, kind of put him

00:35:35.420 --> 00:35:37.320
in a tough spot. So that's what that second one

00:35:37.320 --> 00:35:39.199
did. If you're a big fan of Eli, that was like

00:35:39.199 --> 00:35:42.900
his big moment, more than 07 in my opinion. But

00:35:42.900 --> 00:35:47.650
what 07 did, especially against Bill, former

00:35:47.650 --> 00:35:49.710
Giants defensive coordinator, and Tom Coughlin

00:35:49.710 --> 00:35:51.989
was the wide receivers coach for those kind of

00:35:51.989 --> 00:35:54.210
Super Bowl teams in the 80s and early 90s too.

00:35:54.389 --> 00:35:57.010
So it was former Giants coaches, but Bill has

00:35:57.010 --> 00:35:59.130
always been the one that I feel like was more

00:35:59.130 --> 00:36:02.869
highly regarded in Giants land and within Giants

00:36:02.869 --> 00:36:05.369
fans. We always wanted Bill. We always wanted

00:36:05.369 --> 00:36:08.090
Bill Belichick to take over after Parcells, and

00:36:08.090 --> 00:36:09.909
we were always kind of jealous of what the Patriots

00:36:09.909 --> 00:36:12.409
were doing. And Coughlin was on his way out.

00:36:12.679 --> 00:36:14.159
if they didn't make playoffs, that your coffin

00:36:14.159 --> 00:36:16.059
was going to be fired. There were going to be

00:36:16.059 --> 00:36:18.820
questions about Eli Manning. Maybe even if they

00:36:18.820 --> 00:36:21.039
lost in the first round to the Tampa Bay Bucs

00:36:21.039 --> 00:36:23.619
against John Gruden, which I don't view John

00:36:23.619 --> 00:36:26.139
Gruden as a great coach, by the way. I think

00:36:26.139 --> 00:36:28.119
he inherited a pretty good team from Tony Dungy,

00:36:28.159 --> 00:36:30.260
but neither here nor there. They were on their

00:36:30.260 --> 00:36:32.239
way out because that would have been three years

00:36:32.239 --> 00:36:34.940
straight of first -round playoff exits, and they

00:36:34.940 --> 00:36:36.159
didn't even win the division that year. They

00:36:36.159 --> 00:36:38.480
got into the wild card because of Ahmad Bradshaw

00:36:38.480 --> 00:36:40.719
having an awesome run in a snowy game against

00:36:40.719 --> 00:36:44.170
Buffalo. What it really did, I think I draw a

00:36:44.170 --> 00:36:46.090
lot of similarities. If you're a Giants fan,

00:36:46.130 --> 00:36:47.789
if you're an older Giants fan, I draw a lot of

00:36:47.789 --> 00:36:51.949
similarities between 2007 and 1987, where obviously

00:36:51.949 --> 00:36:54.409
1987 when they won the Super Bowl, then it was

00:36:54.409 --> 00:36:58.389
decades of bad football and bad play. But even

00:36:58.389 --> 00:37:01.929
you got just a similar feeling that if the Giants

00:37:01.929 --> 00:37:03.789
were going to let go of Coughlin and if they

00:37:03.789 --> 00:37:06.570
were going to somehow have Eli Manning not work.

00:37:07.210 --> 00:37:09.530
They were going to enter into a huge period of

00:37:09.530 --> 00:37:11.750
instability that the Giants are not familiar

00:37:11.750 --> 00:37:14.050
with. The Giants are not familiar with constantly

00:37:14.050 --> 00:37:16.230
moving on from head coaches without some sort

00:37:16.230 --> 00:37:18.710
of success. Even with Fossil, they won an NFC

00:37:18.710 --> 00:37:21.829
championship. They're not familiar with instability

00:37:21.829 --> 00:37:24.349
maybe at the quarterback position. They had Sims

00:37:24.349 --> 00:37:27.409
for over a decade. They had Y .A. Tittle for

00:37:27.409 --> 00:37:30.329
a long period of time. They're familiar with

00:37:30.329 --> 00:37:32.510
it if they're at the bottom of the barrel, which

00:37:32.510 --> 00:37:34.170
you didn't feel like the Giants were at the bottom

00:37:34.170 --> 00:37:38.239
of the barrel in... 05, 06, and then 07. So they

00:37:38.239 --> 00:37:40.099
were about to enter a very big period of instability

00:37:40.099 --> 00:37:42.880
in an unknown period. But what that victory did

00:37:42.880 --> 00:37:45.039
is it cemented the New York football giants back

00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:48.199
as the New York football giants as one of the

00:37:48.199 --> 00:37:50.340
most successful franchises in the National Football

00:37:50.340 --> 00:37:51.980
League. So that's what it really did. And for

00:37:51.980 --> 00:37:54.920
me, I was a fan for life. That's what it did

00:37:54.920 --> 00:37:57.179
for me right there. You know, seeing Tyree with

00:37:57.179 --> 00:37:59.079
the helmet catch, Jay Alford, like I said, Jay

00:37:59.079 --> 00:38:00.719
Alford, that sack, that's a moment I look back

00:38:00.719 --> 00:38:03.460
on and I just smile every time I see it and I

00:38:03.460 --> 00:38:06.679
see the hit and I go. I just clinch up and I

00:38:06.679 --> 00:38:08.360
know it's coming, but it gets me every time.

00:38:08.500 --> 00:38:10.780
So it made me a fan for life after that moment

00:38:10.780 --> 00:38:13.340
and couldn't be more thankful for that game.

00:38:13.679 --> 00:38:15.980
Awesome, awesome. Now, did we get everybody's

00:38:15.980 --> 00:38:17.980
top three here? I want to make sure that no one

00:38:17.980 --> 00:38:20.039
missed out, right? No, I think we're all good

00:38:20.039 --> 00:38:22.619
here. Now, our friend Amanda from the Strike

00:38:22.619 --> 00:38:25.380
a Chord podcast brought up one that actually

00:38:25.380 --> 00:38:28.440
none of us talked about. and was a very memorable

00:38:28.440 --> 00:38:30.420
Super Bowl halftime show. It was the year that

00:38:30.420 --> 00:38:35.380
MTV took over and tried to make it the TRL of

00:38:35.380 --> 00:38:38.179
Super Bowl halftime shows, and they brought out

00:38:38.179 --> 00:38:41.960
NSYNC, Britney Spears, Mary J. Blige, Nelly,

00:38:42.059 --> 00:38:44.079
and then for the rock crowd, they brought in

00:38:44.079 --> 00:38:47.340
Aerosmith. And I'll say this. It was a good show.

00:38:47.599 --> 00:38:51.699
A lot of the Aerosmith purists were, you know,

00:38:51.699 --> 00:38:54.940
Britney Spears singing Aerosmith songs. Hey,

00:38:54.940 --> 00:38:59.130
dude, shut up. She's got a good voice. It's not

00:38:59.130 --> 00:39:03.889
awful. It was a merging of the genres. People

00:39:03.889 --> 00:39:07.829
were offended that Aerosmith did Walk This Way

00:39:07.829 --> 00:39:09.630
with NSYNC. I'm like, they did Walk This Way

00:39:09.630 --> 00:39:14.269
with Run DMC. They're all about merging with

00:39:14.269 --> 00:39:16.489
other bands. I was just going to make that point

00:39:16.489 --> 00:39:19.650
where we've said many times on this show, right

00:39:19.650 --> 00:39:23.909
from my mouth, Aerosmith is a band that blends.

00:39:24.929 --> 00:39:27.730
They've reinvented themselves so many times over

00:39:27.730 --> 00:39:30.409
their career that of course they're going to

00:39:30.409 --> 00:39:32.730
do Walk This Way with NSYNC. And of course it's

00:39:32.730 --> 00:39:34.949
going to kick ass because NSYNC was awesome.

00:39:35.210 --> 00:39:37.369
Like, I'm sorry. I'm not ashamed to admit that

00:39:37.369 --> 00:39:40.550
I liked NSYNC. They had a good thing going at

00:39:40.550 --> 00:39:43.309
the turn of the century. And I think out of that,

00:39:43.389 --> 00:39:47.369
Justin Timberlake is an amazing performer. If

00:39:47.369 --> 00:39:50.070
you're looking at people who pick up the mantle

00:39:50.070 --> 00:39:54.139
for the purple one, it's going to be... Justin

00:39:54.139 --> 00:39:57.860
Timberlake, it's going to be Bruno Mars. What

00:39:57.860 --> 00:40:01.480
else do you need? Now, Frank also wrote in, U2

00:40:01.480 --> 00:40:04.099
after 9 -11 was pretty powerful. Oh, absolutely.

00:40:04.500 --> 00:40:07.179
That's a tough one for me. The return to normal.

00:40:07.480 --> 00:40:11.519
Yeah, that was hard to watch. That's all I'll

00:40:11.519 --> 00:40:14.260
say. Not because it's U2. We joke about U2, but

00:40:14.260 --> 00:40:17.760
beautiful, beautiful performance. but it literally

00:40:17.760 --> 00:40:19.960
puts a lump in my throat just talking about it

00:40:19.960 --> 00:40:23.000
here. It was emotionally driven for sure. That

00:40:23.000 --> 00:40:25.320
was the season that ushered out my exodus from

00:40:25.320 --> 00:40:27.840
New York City the first time following the attacks.

00:40:28.219 --> 00:40:30.539
And we haven't talked an awful lot about that

00:40:30.539 --> 00:40:34.500
here, but boy, that was a really, really dark

00:40:34.500 --> 00:40:37.000
time. Yeah, yeah. And I think they did a pretty

00:40:37.000 --> 00:40:41.070
good job. I mean, they had a pretty big... responsibility

00:40:41.070 --> 00:40:43.230
yeah going into that show i would not have wished

00:40:43.230 --> 00:40:46.070
that on and yeah that at all now steve wrote

00:40:46.070 --> 00:40:49.309
in tom petty 100 so i'm glad i'm justified there

00:40:49.980 --> 00:40:52.719
Jamie wrote in Bruno Mars really surprised me.

00:40:52.739 --> 00:40:55.000
Even my dad loved it. And he never heard of them,

00:40:55.019 --> 00:40:57.139
which speaks to our point. Exactly. He crossed

00:40:57.139 --> 00:41:00.260
over generations. The kids loved it. Our generation

00:41:00.260 --> 00:41:02.699
loved it. And our parents loved it. That makes

00:41:02.699 --> 00:41:05.579
you an icon moving forward. And then finally,

00:41:05.599 --> 00:41:08.519
Brian wrote in Prince. Can you make it rain harder?

00:41:09.059 --> 00:41:11.800
Really? Like I'm hearing that in a Chandler Bing

00:41:11.800 --> 00:41:15.079
voice. Can it rain any harder? Like that moment.

00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:18.199
Really? And then Springsteen. So he's echoing.

00:41:18.599 --> 00:41:21.420
Everybody here, Tom Petty, and then Lady Gaga's,

00:41:21.440 --> 00:41:23.500
which was also. We didn't talk about her either.

00:41:23.659 --> 00:41:26.639
Hers was fantastic too. Yeah. The song You and

00:41:26.639 --> 00:41:29.739
I. I love that freaking song. She can do no wrong.

00:41:29.860 --> 00:41:32.920
I love everything Gaga does. Tammy and I, my

00:41:32.920 --> 00:41:36.500
wife, we're watching A Star is Born. Yes. And

00:41:36.500 --> 00:41:39.079
I love Bradley Cooper because he's Bradley Cooper.

00:41:39.199 --> 00:41:42.099
He's Rocket freaking Raccoon. And every time

00:41:42.099 --> 00:41:44.599
that young woman opens her mouth, it's just the

00:41:44.599 --> 00:41:47.260
most, normally the most beautiful sound comes

00:41:47.260 --> 00:41:51.119
out of it. You could take all of the early Fame

00:41:51.119 --> 00:41:55.179
Monster stuff, and sure, it's glam pop, but her

00:41:55.179 --> 00:41:58.360
voice is solid. Oh, her voice is absolutely incredible.

00:41:58.699 --> 00:42:00.679
I mean, I can't say enough good things about

00:42:00.679 --> 00:42:02.260
her voice. I mean, she did an album with Tony

00:42:02.260 --> 00:42:04.559
Bennett, and it worked. Why? Because she can

00:42:04.559 --> 00:42:07.719
actually sing. Absolutely. You can't just sit

00:42:07.719 --> 00:42:10.460
on a track with Tony Bennett if you don't have

00:42:10.460 --> 00:42:13.199
the range to be able to sing in that jazz style.

00:42:13.400 --> 00:42:16.119
Exactly. Whereas she could use her auto -tune

00:42:16.119 --> 00:42:19.309
on her voice artistically. And it works. But

00:42:19.309 --> 00:42:21.409
she can also belt out with the best of them without

00:42:21.409 --> 00:42:24.610
any effects. And that works too. So I don't mind

00:42:24.610 --> 00:42:28.570
autotune as a tool in certain songs. I mean,

00:42:28.590 --> 00:42:31.210
even Cher used it on Believe as like a tool of

00:42:31.210 --> 00:42:34.650
her vocal line. And we know Cher can sing. But

00:42:34.650 --> 00:42:37.369
for people that only use autotune, which makes

00:42:37.369 --> 00:42:39.769
you question if they even can sing. Yeah, and

00:42:39.769 --> 00:42:43.480
her transition. Right. The transition from being

00:42:43.480 --> 00:42:45.079
what she was at the start. I know, Jay, you kind

00:42:45.079 --> 00:42:47.460
of mentioned this, but how what she was doing

00:42:47.460 --> 00:42:50.519
at the start and all the extracurriculars that

00:42:50.519 --> 00:42:52.679
was attached. And now it's like, oh, now we know

00:42:52.679 --> 00:42:55.480
Lady Gaga, not because of what she wears. We

00:42:55.480 --> 00:42:57.380
know Lady Gaga because of her voice, because

00:42:57.380 --> 00:43:00.719
of her talent. And I think that's rare. I think

00:43:00.719 --> 00:43:02.940
that's rare for some. And it's also smart by

00:43:02.940 --> 00:43:05.219
her to get her foot on the scene where odds are

00:43:05.219 --> 00:43:07.599
the sad thing is in today's world. She may have

00:43:07.599 --> 00:43:10.480
not been as famous as she is right now if she

00:43:10.480 --> 00:43:12.579
had not have done that. And that's a shame, but

00:43:12.579 --> 00:43:15.280
smart, but also very glad it's worked out to

00:43:15.280 --> 00:43:17.400
now. You know, when we think of Lady Gaga, we're

00:43:17.400 --> 00:43:19.019
not thinking of the meat dress. We're thinking

00:43:19.019 --> 00:43:21.340
of her voice and her talent. So there are three

00:43:21.340 --> 00:43:25.099
women, female vocalists, modern that I would

00:43:25.099 --> 00:43:30.639
consider modern. Anything after 1995. 95, somewhere

00:43:30.639 --> 00:43:33.800
around there. Christina Aguilera has an amazing

00:43:33.800 --> 00:43:36.559
voice. And unfortunately, we didn't get to hear

00:43:36.559 --> 00:43:39.280
it early in her career. We got to hear it later

00:43:39.280 --> 00:43:44.619
in her career after she did the... Oh, what was

00:43:44.619 --> 00:43:47.219
that song, Ryan? With the horns, where she took

00:43:47.219 --> 00:43:48.739
off and did the big band thing for a minute.

00:43:48.820 --> 00:43:51.530
Candyman. Candyman. Thank you. Candyman and Ain't

00:43:51.530 --> 00:43:54.630
No Other Man are like the two that I love from

00:43:54.630 --> 00:43:57.210
her. Yeah. That was such a fun album. Yeah. And

00:43:57.210 --> 00:43:58.849
then all of a sudden it's like, whoa, wait a

00:43:58.849 --> 00:44:00.989
minute. This 16 year old like Disney kid can

00:44:00.989 --> 00:44:05.250
sing. Right. And then there's Lady Gaga and Ariana

00:44:05.250 --> 00:44:08.530
Grande. Okay. That kid has a freaking voice.

00:44:09.280 --> 00:44:11.320
And you know what? When I realized it was not

00:44:11.320 --> 00:44:14.179
during any of her performances, which any of

00:44:14.179 --> 00:44:17.800
her records that I've heard. You're going to

00:44:17.800 --> 00:44:20.480
say Fallon, aren't you? When she was on Fallon.

00:44:20.559 --> 00:44:24.000
Yes. Doing all the voice impressions. Their voice.

00:44:25.059 --> 00:44:27.500
That's the moneymaker right there. Oh, definitely.

00:44:27.679 --> 00:44:29.659
Now, Justin, I'm not going to let you get away

00:44:29.659 --> 00:44:31.960
with this show without talking about something

00:44:31.960 --> 00:44:35.159
here. I've seen, you know, we're friends on Twitter.

00:44:35.280 --> 00:44:36.820
And, you know, I've been following your feed

00:44:36.820 --> 00:44:40.449
and listening to the show. And I know. how large

00:44:40.449 --> 00:44:43.969
of a fan of Shania Twain you are. And Shania

00:44:43.969 --> 00:44:46.550
Twain has performed at a Super Bowl halftime

00:44:46.550 --> 00:44:49.110
show. I'd like to know, because you talk about

00:44:49.110 --> 00:44:52.550
her as your highness and how you have her on

00:44:52.550 --> 00:44:55.630
this pedestal of greatness, how the hell didn't

00:44:55.630 --> 00:44:57.869
she make your list, just out of curiosity, being

00:44:57.869 --> 00:45:02.119
one of your favorite artists? I did not. I think

00:45:02.119 --> 00:45:05.559
Shania Twain's halftime show fully personifies

00:45:05.559 --> 00:45:09.599
who she is as an artist. I didn't like, first

00:45:09.599 --> 00:45:11.539
of all, only one song. She only got one song,

00:45:11.619 --> 00:45:14.659
and it was a backtracked version of Man, I Feel

00:45:14.659 --> 00:45:17.980
Like a Woman. Now, I think back in the day, before

00:45:17.980 --> 00:45:21.059
she had Lyme's disease, and before she went through

00:45:21.059 --> 00:45:24.679
her divorce with Mutt Lang, and before she even

00:45:24.679 --> 00:45:26.199
just parted ways with Mutt Lang, because Mutt

00:45:26.199 --> 00:45:28.840
Lang is a musical genius in his own right, I

00:45:28.840 --> 00:45:31.019
think she had an amazing voice. Amazing, amazing

00:45:31.019 --> 00:45:34.179
voice. I don't know, maybe 2003, 2002, if she

00:45:34.179 --> 00:45:35.920
was going through some vocal troubles. But like

00:45:35.920 --> 00:45:38.820
we said before, the backtrack isn't necessarily

00:45:38.820 --> 00:45:40.480
just because you have a bad voice. It's because

00:45:40.480 --> 00:45:43.179
you have so many people, so many things going

00:45:43.179 --> 00:45:45.820
on. And it's just not realistic sometimes to

00:45:45.820 --> 00:45:47.880
have the actual person sing when there's so many

00:45:47.880 --> 00:45:49.920
moving parts. Putting Shania Twain on the national

00:45:49.920 --> 00:45:53.820
stage like that, that was not who she was as

00:45:53.820 --> 00:45:58.059
an artist. I think why I love Shania, and let

00:45:58.059 --> 00:46:00.769
me even just preface it this way. How big of

00:46:00.769 --> 00:46:03.969
a Shania Twain fan I am since she has come back.

00:46:04.150 --> 00:46:07.449
So 2015, I have seen her every opportunity I

00:46:07.449 --> 00:46:09.349
can get. I have seen her a total of four times,

00:46:09.449 --> 00:46:11.969
twice in concert, rock this country tour now

00:46:11.969 --> 00:46:14.429
tour. And then I went to Las Vegas. I went to

00:46:14.429 --> 00:46:16.710
her Vegas residency in Caesars. You're still

00:46:16.710 --> 00:46:19.269
the one. And then I just went to the one in December

00:46:19.269 --> 00:46:22.869
before COVID went to the Let's Go Las Vegas residency.

00:46:23.190 --> 00:46:28.250
So my mom bought Come On Over in 97 and we would

00:46:28.250 --> 00:46:31.289
play it in. her Jeep Grand Cherokee growing up

00:46:31.289 --> 00:46:35.269
on CDs. I am young enough for CDs. I will say

00:46:35.269 --> 00:46:38.449
that. Not young enough for record players or

00:46:38.449 --> 00:46:39.710
anything like that or cassette tapes, but I'm

00:46:39.710 --> 00:46:42.550
young enough for CD players. So we listen to

00:46:42.550 --> 00:46:46.250
Come On Over in the car and just, you know, that's

00:46:46.250 --> 00:46:48.130
how I was introduced to music. So it wasn't even

00:46:48.130 --> 00:46:50.590
at that point. one of those things where I could

00:46:50.590 --> 00:46:52.869
fully appreciate just how diverse that album

00:46:52.869 --> 00:46:54.809
is. Ninth best -selling album of all time, by

00:46:54.809 --> 00:46:57.309
the way. We sometimes forget this. Top 10 selling

00:46:57.309 --> 00:46:59.789
album of all time, Come On Over. So I didn't

00:46:59.789 --> 00:47:01.449
get to appreciate just how diverse it was. So

00:47:01.449 --> 00:47:04.110
then I put it down for a few years. I go through

00:47:04.110 --> 00:47:06.809
my musical stages, phases. And then in high school,

00:47:06.869 --> 00:47:08.489
I just start, you know, I just want to listen

00:47:08.489 --> 00:47:10.610
to some songs from my childhood. So I start playing

00:47:10.610 --> 00:47:12.750
Come On Over again. I'm like, oh my God, this

00:47:12.750 --> 00:47:15.429
is great. There's no... We talked about, you

00:47:15.429 --> 00:47:17.309
know, you have to eat, right? And you have to

00:47:17.309 --> 00:47:19.889
eat and you have to fit a certain brand. You

00:47:19.889 --> 00:47:22.570
have to fit a certain category of country, pop,

00:47:22.909 --> 00:47:25.210
rock, whatever. And that's how you're going to

00:47:25.210 --> 00:47:27.030
get to your audience. And that's what's going

00:47:27.030 --> 00:47:30.269
to sell. Shania didn't have that. You know, I

00:47:30.269 --> 00:47:32.230
would say definitely her first album, her self

00:47:32.230 --> 00:47:33.869
-titled album, that was an album she didn't write.

00:47:34.130 --> 00:47:36.750
But The Woman and Me, kind of mostly country.

00:47:36.809 --> 00:47:38.829
She blended in a little bit of rock, but especially

00:47:38.829 --> 00:47:42.690
the come on over and up albums were just everything.

00:47:43.230 --> 00:47:45.429
For Up, she made three different versions of

00:47:45.429 --> 00:47:47.869
the same songs because she didn't want to fit

00:47:47.869 --> 00:47:50.110
a certain box, a certain category. It's like,

00:47:50.150 --> 00:47:52.570
oh, you want to put me in a box? Here's three

00:47:52.570 --> 00:47:54.730
different versions of the same songs. So you

00:47:54.730 --> 00:47:57.449
can't. You literally can't. So I love Shania

00:47:57.449 --> 00:47:59.210
Twain. Love her backstory. Love her upbringing.

00:47:59.769 --> 00:48:01.889
She went through a lot of adversity. And I love

00:48:01.889 --> 00:48:03.630
the way that she kind of approaches music and

00:48:03.630 --> 00:48:06.050
the way that she was really a trailblazer for

00:48:06.050 --> 00:48:07.750
a lot of artists. I don't think there is a Taylor

00:48:07.750 --> 00:48:09.570
Swift. I don't think Taylor Swift makes that

00:48:09.570 --> 00:48:12.630
transition from country to pop and is the bitch.

00:48:12.619 --> 00:48:14.639
biggest superstar in the world right now if it

00:48:14.639 --> 00:48:16.920
was not for Shania Twain trailblazing that path

00:48:16.920 --> 00:48:19.019
for her. You are absolutely right. I was going

00:48:19.019 --> 00:48:23.440
to say 100%. She is the Garth Brooks to male

00:48:23.440 --> 00:48:26.460
country music crossing over for what she did

00:48:26.460 --> 00:48:29.739
for female artists and pop. You would not have

00:48:29.739 --> 00:48:32.300
a Taylor Swift. That's a great point. And now

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