WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.259 Hey guys, this is Kevin Baldus from Lit, and 00:00:02.259 --> 00:00:04.620 you're listening to My Weekly Mixtape with Brian 00:00:04.620 --> 00:00:19.339 Colburn. This show kicks ass. Welcome to My Weekly 00:00:19.339 --> 00:00:22.019 Mixtape, a podcast that takes the classic mixtape 00:00:22.019 --> 00:00:25.059 approach to building a modern playlist. I'm your 00:00:25.059 --> 00:00:27.660 host, Brian Colburn. One of the things I'm excited 00:00:27.660 --> 00:00:30.160 to do on my weekly mixtape is speak with some 00:00:30.160 --> 00:00:32.219 of the incredible artists whose music has been 00:00:32.219 --> 00:00:35.000 featured on countless mixtapes and playlists 00:00:35.000 --> 00:00:38.179 of mine. And in some instances, build the perfect 00:00:38.179 --> 00:00:41.780 mixtape for that artist with that artist, which 00:00:41.780 --> 00:00:44.619 is exactly what's going down tonight. Joining 00:00:44.619 --> 00:00:47.079 me for tonight's collaboration is Kevin Baldess, 00:00:47.159 --> 00:00:49.939 bassist for Lit. And tonight we are curating 00:00:49.939 --> 00:00:53.619 a mixtape of our favorite Lit. Kevin, thank you 00:00:53.619 --> 00:00:56.200 so much for joining me tonight on My Weekly Mixtape. 00:00:56.679 --> 00:00:59.100 Absolutely, man. Thanks for having me. It's an 00:00:59.100 --> 00:01:01.340 absolute pleasure having you on. Kevin, I'm going 00:01:01.340 --> 00:01:03.340 to start tonight's show by asking you the same 00:01:03.340 --> 00:01:05.819 question I ask each and every one of my guests. 00:01:06.200 --> 00:01:09.819 What does the word mixtape mean to you? Well, 00:01:09.859 --> 00:01:12.859 I've made many mixtapes when I was younger. I 00:01:12.859 --> 00:01:15.900 think it's just a hybrid of your favorite songs. 00:01:16.299 --> 00:01:19.019 But, you know, a mixtape can go in any direction. 00:01:19.120 --> 00:01:22.290 You can make a mixtape for a buddy. you know, 00:01:22.290 --> 00:01:23.549 maybe they're going to play football and they 00:01:23.549 --> 00:01:27.090 need some songs to help them get amped up. So 00:01:27.090 --> 00:01:30.269 you make a mixtape of that. Me, I'd make mixtapes 00:01:30.269 --> 00:01:33.890 for girlfriends and I'd put, you know, Journey 00:01:33.890 --> 00:01:39.599 in Chicago and what have you. Well, tonight's 00:01:39.599 --> 00:01:41.920 show will be a first for my weekly mixtape because 00:01:41.920 --> 00:01:45.040 not only are we curating a mix of our favorite 00:01:45.040 --> 00:01:46.939 lit tunes, like I mentioned at the top of the 00:01:46.939 --> 00:01:51.000 show, we'll also be balancing a 50 -50 mix between 00:01:51.000 --> 00:01:54.200 my fan perspective and Kevin's, you know, being 00:01:54.200 --> 00:01:58.409 in the band and all perspective. Yeah. i've got 00:01:58.409 --> 00:02:01.150 my bank of lit tunes that i'm ready to add to 00:02:01.150 --> 00:02:03.689 tonight's mixtape and it comes from three different 00:02:03.689 --> 00:02:06.989 perspectives songs that i feel are important 00:02:06.989 --> 00:02:10.889 to the band's history as a fan underrated songs 00:02:10.889 --> 00:02:15.009 from across the band's catalog and my obvious 00:02:15.009 --> 00:02:17.870 personal favorites my goal is to hopefully squeeze 00:02:17.870 --> 00:02:20.289 in a mix of all of those into the final mixtape 00:02:20.289 --> 00:02:23.509 tonight Now, Kevin, as a member of the band and 00:02:23.509 --> 00:02:26.650 someone whose creativity was paramount in making 00:02:26.650 --> 00:02:30.030 these songs what they are today, where are you 00:02:30.030 --> 00:02:32.689 personally coming from with your bank of lit 00:02:32.689 --> 00:02:35.810 songs? I'm looking to piss my band off with the 00:02:35.810 --> 00:02:38.430 songs I wish we would play live, but we never 00:02:38.430 --> 00:02:41.810 do. That being said, I'm going to kind of go 00:02:41.810 --> 00:02:45.270 at this with songs that I love from our set and 00:02:45.270 --> 00:02:49.229 songs that I wish were in the set. is kind of 00:02:49.229 --> 00:02:51.129 where i'm going to come from but i'm also going 00:02:51.129 --> 00:02:54.650 to open because when we make a headlining set 00:02:54.650 --> 00:02:56.650 it sucks when we have to make like a half an 00:02:56.650 --> 00:02:59.090 hour set it's the worst like what do you put 00:02:59.090 --> 00:03:00.810 on there there's a shit you have to put on there 00:03:00.810 --> 00:03:03.310 that you have to put on there and then there's 00:03:03.310 --> 00:03:04.689 the stuff that you wish you could do and the 00:03:04.689 --> 00:03:06.509 stuff that you wish you could do never ends up 00:03:06.509 --> 00:03:07.969 on there because you gotta you don't have much 00:03:07.969 --> 00:03:09.689 time and you gotta put a bunch of stuff on there 00:03:09.689 --> 00:03:12.229 that you have to do you know and i just had this 00:03:12.229 --> 00:03:14.069 concept the other day and i was talking to somebody 00:03:14.069 --> 00:03:18.780 i wish we had about 10 songs that were like way 00:03:18.780 --> 00:03:22.199 deep cuts and we put 10 of them in a bag. And 00:03:22.199 --> 00:03:25.419 each night we would put our hand in the hat and 00:03:25.419 --> 00:03:28.120 we would, or maybe we even let fans pick 10 songs 00:03:28.120 --> 00:03:31.159 that are deep cuts, not singles at all, deep 00:03:31.159 --> 00:03:35.139 cuts. And then we pick the top 10 of those selections. 00:03:35.620 --> 00:03:38.659 And every night we pick it from the hat and we 00:03:38.659 --> 00:03:40.979 have to add it. Song number five is the deep 00:03:40.979 --> 00:03:43.000 cut. And, you know, and so every night we get 00:03:43.000 --> 00:03:45.599 to play an oddball song and it's always different. 00:03:45.939 --> 00:03:49.020 I wish that was something we did. But we don't. 00:03:49.020 --> 00:03:51.659 And it sucks. Well, now that you've put it out 00:03:51.659 --> 00:03:53.479 in the universe, maybe it will become a thing 00:03:53.479 --> 00:03:57.419 because I am team deep cut from the band. Yeah. 00:03:57.780 --> 00:04:00.080 Yeah. I already know what song I wish we would 00:04:00.080 --> 00:04:03.379 open the show with. Well, let's get down to business 00:04:03.379 --> 00:04:05.560 then. Tonight, as I mentioned earlier, Kevin 00:04:05.560 --> 00:04:08.259 and I will be curating the Songs of Lit mixtape, 00:04:08.340 --> 00:04:10.560 and we'll use the old cassette deck approach, 00:04:10.800 --> 00:04:12.979 meaning our mixtape will be broken up into two 00:04:12.979 --> 00:04:16.680 sides, side A and side B. Kevin, as the special 00:04:16.680 --> 00:04:18.980 guest, will begin side A with his first song 00:04:18.980 --> 00:04:21.480 choice, and then I'll add a song that I feel 00:04:21.480 --> 00:04:24.779 best follows up his choice. We'll then flip -flop 00:04:24.779 --> 00:04:27.120 choosing songs until we've mapped out 10 songs 00:04:27.120 --> 00:04:30.279 for side A. We'll then give our mixtape a proverbial 00:04:30.279 --> 00:04:33.120 flip and we'll map out side B. Only this time, 00:04:33.160 --> 00:04:35.680 I'll kick the side off with Kevin choosing second. 00:04:35.959 --> 00:04:38.519 Our overall goal for this episode is to craft 00:04:38.519 --> 00:04:42.600 the best lit mixtape possible using only 20 songs. 00:04:42.800 --> 00:04:45.319 At the end of the show, you can take our conversation 00:04:45.319 --> 00:04:48.160 to the next level by visiting the Songs of Lit 00:04:48.160 --> 00:04:51.779 page at myweeklymixtape .com and give our final 00:04:51.779 --> 00:04:55.319 mixtape a listen via the embedded playlist. Finally, 00:04:55.379 --> 00:04:57.199 if you like what you're hearing on My Weekly 00:04:57.199 --> 00:05:00.310 Mixtape, please consider becoming a Patreon mixtaper 00:05:00.310 --> 00:05:04.009 at patreon .com forward slash myweeklymixtape. 00:05:04.310 --> 00:05:07.230 Kevin, I'm officially pressing record on the 00:05:07.230 --> 00:05:09.910 Songs of Lit mixtape, and the floor is yours. 00:05:09.970 --> 00:05:12.889 Why don't you dive into the song you would kick 00:05:12.889 --> 00:05:17.149 off Side A with? Dude, it comes off of our first 00:05:17.149 --> 00:05:19.889 album, Trip and Life Fantastic. You know, for 00:05:19.889 --> 00:05:23.370 years, and we continue to open, we actually changed 00:05:23.370 --> 00:05:26.509 it up recently. But the first track off of A 00:05:26.509 --> 00:05:28.930 Place in the Sun is called Four. That's been 00:05:28.930 --> 00:05:31.329 our opener. And for good reason. We used to write 00:05:31.329 --> 00:05:35.050 songs for what we needed for the set and how 00:05:35.050 --> 00:05:37.490 we wanted the set to go. So Four was kind of 00:05:37.490 --> 00:05:40.329 written as an intro to the set. That's why it's 00:05:40.329 --> 00:05:42.509 kind of an aggressive song. It's a bit faster. 00:05:42.629 --> 00:05:46.209 It's got a lot of meat on it. But for my mixtape 00:05:46.209 --> 00:05:48.290 here, I'm going to start the track listing off 00:05:48.290 --> 00:05:50.230 with My World off of Trippin' Like Fantastic. 00:05:51.040 --> 00:05:54.180 I brought that baseline to the rehearsal. It's 00:05:54.180 --> 00:05:56.860 funny because I'm not far from where that rehearsal 00:05:56.860 --> 00:06:00.439 space was that Trippin' Life Fantastic, A Place 00:06:00.439 --> 00:06:03.120 in the Sun, and Atomic were written at. I'm only 00:06:03.120 --> 00:06:07.000 blocks away from it currently. So I would definitely 00:06:07.000 --> 00:06:09.180 put my, I'd open it up with My World because 00:06:09.180 --> 00:06:11.199 I just think that's a kick in the balls, man, 00:06:11.279 --> 00:06:13.519 that song. I wish we'd play it on our set now. 00:06:13.800 --> 00:06:16.459 I'm not going to lie. I do too. I think that 00:06:16.459 --> 00:06:19.680 song. is probably my favorite off of tripping 00:06:19.680 --> 00:06:23.240 the life fantastic it has that distinct lit sound 00:06:23.240 --> 00:06:26.360 but i also feel there's a dare i use the word 00:06:26.360 --> 00:06:28.680 because i know some people might take this the 00:06:28.680 --> 00:06:30.860 wrong way but i feel like there's a touch of 00:06:30.860 --> 00:06:34.879 grunge in that song it's a grungier track and 00:06:34.879 --> 00:06:38.199 i absolutely as a bass player i love that opening 00:06:38.199 --> 00:06:40.839 it immediately grabs my attention yeah it's a 00:06:40.839 --> 00:06:43.240 it's a fun one to play too man it's it's a it's 00:06:43.240 --> 00:06:45.740 a fast rhythm you know it sounds like it's just 00:06:46.430 --> 00:06:49.009 and it kind of is once your wrist is used to 00:06:49.009 --> 00:06:54.089 it, but it's a cool rhythm. The whole song, you 00:06:54.089 --> 00:06:56.670 know? And the song is all of a minute and a half. 00:06:56.850 --> 00:06:59.069 I mean, it's a short song, but man, it's a kick 00:06:59.069 --> 00:07:01.189 in the balls. And it was actually the first video 00:07:01.189 --> 00:07:04.509 we ever made was for that song, My World. Well, 00:07:04.550 --> 00:07:06.949 following that up, I'm going to go to the other 00:07:06.949 --> 00:07:10.250 side of the spectrum here because I was put on 00:07:10.250 --> 00:07:13.449 notice by my nine -year -old that my first song 00:07:13.449 --> 00:07:17.259 choice had to be her favorite cut. Okay. So I 00:07:17.259 --> 00:07:19.600 am going to go with my nine -year -old's favorite 00:07:19.600 --> 00:07:22.319 lit song, and you might laugh when you hear what 00:07:22.319 --> 00:07:25.399 it is, but it's off your latest album, 2022's 00:07:25.399 --> 00:07:28.839 Taste Like Gold, and it's Kicked Off the Plane. 00:07:29.480 --> 00:07:32.500 Okay. Now, I don't know if I should be saying 00:07:32.500 --> 00:07:34.759 this or not, but when that chorus kicks in, she 00:07:34.759 --> 00:07:36.939 is singing along at the top of her lungs, and 00:07:36.939 --> 00:07:39.879 she's actually said to me, Dad, why do people 00:07:39.879 --> 00:07:43.410 get kicked off planes? And I said, I have no 00:07:43.410 --> 00:07:45.490 idea what happened, hon. Maybe it was just a 00:07:45.490 --> 00:07:48.009 misunderstanding or something. Right, right. 00:07:48.149 --> 00:07:50.790 A misunderstanding, yeah. Yeah, she absolutely 00:07:50.790 --> 00:07:53.189 loves that song. It's Soda Why. It's so infectious. 00:07:53.370 --> 00:07:57.509 It's so catchy. And it is really the polar other 00:07:57.509 --> 00:08:00.410 side of the spectrum from my world. So I wanted 00:08:00.410 --> 00:08:02.269 to do something new. I like to bounce around 00:08:02.269 --> 00:08:05.110 throughout the catalog. So this one's for you, 00:08:05.170 --> 00:08:07.699 sweetie. Not you, sweetie, Kevin, but my daughter, 00:08:07.779 --> 00:08:11.860 sweetie. Got it. And I'm going to go with kicked 00:08:11.860 --> 00:08:14.899 off the plane. I have to ask, though, without 00:08:14.899 --> 00:08:17.459 her listening, I'll pause this part of the podcast 00:08:17.459 --> 00:08:20.720 for her. Is that an autobiographical track for 00:08:20.720 --> 00:08:24.660 the band? Yes. A .J. Jeremy and our guitar tech 00:08:24.660 --> 00:08:27.560 Christian had a little bit too much fun the night 00:08:27.560 --> 00:08:29.699 before. And then they kept the fun going the 00:08:29.699 --> 00:08:32.159 next morning and they tried to keep the fun going 00:08:32.159 --> 00:08:36.000 onto the plane. And then. That's where their 00:08:36.000 --> 00:08:38.860 day started. And I don't think they I live in 00:08:38.860 --> 00:08:41.860 California. I think we were flying from Texas 00:08:41.860 --> 00:08:45.000 home and they were flying from Texas to Tennessee. 00:08:45.360 --> 00:08:48.340 And I think I got home way before they got home 00:08:48.340 --> 00:08:50.500 because they had to hang out in the airport for 00:08:50.500 --> 00:08:53.100 quite a while. But that is a real song that it 00:08:53.100 --> 00:08:56.139 really did happen. I blame our guitar tech. I 00:08:56.139 --> 00:08:57.799 do not blame my band members because they know 00:08:57.799 --> 00:09:01.759 better. They're professionals. All right, Kevin, 00:09:01.919 --> 00:09:04.899 what are you going to follow up? Kicked off the 00:09:04.899 --> 00:09:07.220 plane. It's funny because I feel like it's more 00:09:07.220 --> 00:09:09.519 than a mixtape. I feel like I'm making a set 00:09:09.519 --> 00:09:11.620 list. I feel like I'm sitting in a room with 00:09:11.620 --> 00:09:14.320 a band member that is OK with me choosing whatever 00:09:14.320 --> 00:09:16.360 I want. So I'm going to go ahead and take that 00:09:16.360 --> 00:09:18.799 feeling and roll with it. So we started with 00:09:18.799 --> 00:09:20.620 the first album we started with and then we went 00:09:20.620 --> 00:09:22.340 to the latest album. I'm going to meet somewhere 00:09:22.340 --> 00:09:24.200 in the middle now and we're going to go with 00:09:24.200 --> 00:09:27.700 our single off our self -titled album. Looks 00:09:27.700 --> 00:09:29.779 like they were right. And the reason why I'm 00:09:29.779 --> 00:09:32.580 doing that is because I feel I feel like. We 00:09:32.580 --> 00:09:35.840 gave them a one -two punch with My World into 00:09:35.840 --> 00:09:39.480 Kicked Off the Plane. And then The Way Looks 00:09:39.480 --> 00:09:41.519 Like They Were Right starts. It starts out with 00:09:41.519 --> 00:09:45.000 bass and drums again, but it's a little bit groovier. 00:09:45.139 --> 00:09:48.879 It's not the attack of My World. It settles in 00:09:48.879 --> 00:09:51.220 for a second, and then the song kicks off again. 00:09:51.559 --> 00:09:54.179 I'm a big fan, when we get to do a headlining 00:09:54.179 --> 00:09:56.940 set, I feel like the first four to five songs 00:09:56.940 --> 00:10:01.350 need to be on attack mode. And then by six and 00:10:01.350 --> 00:10:03.870 seven, we can chill out a little bit, you know, 00:10:03.870 --> 00:10:06.330 six and seven, eight, somewhere in there, we 00:10:06.330 --> 00:10:09.110 can start introducing newer songs. It's funny 00:10:09.110 --> 00:10:11.269 because if you look at our latest set list, it 00:10:11.269 --> 00:10:14.470 is kind of a roller coaster ride and everything's 00:10:14.470 --> 00:10:17.029 kind of thought out. You know, anybody's got 00:10:17.029 --> 00:10:19.490 to kind of think out how they're going to do 00:10:19.490 --> 00:10:21.250 their set list, you know, or in this case, a 00:10:21.250 --> 00:10:24.129 mixtape. So it looks like they were right. And 00:10:24.129 --> 00:10:26.070 we don't currently play that song live. And I 00:10:26.070 --> 00:10:29.360 wish we did. And it was a single. We have a video 00:10:29.360 --> 00:10:31.820 for it and everything. I'm going to absolutely 00:10:31.820 --> 00:10:34.539 echo that. That should be in the playlist. Not 00:10:34.539 --> 00:10:38.259 only is the song absolutely infectious and perfect 00:10:38.259 --> 00:10:41.480 early in the night, that was on my list of songs 00:10:41.480 --> 00:10:44.240 that I was hoping to get in tonight. So you saved 00:10:44.240 --> 00:10:46.500 me the heartache of having to cut it. I will 00:10:46.500 --> 00:10:50.039 call this easily the band's self -titled album 00:10:50.039 --> 00:10:53.720 is the most underrated album in your entire discography. 00:10:53.980 --> 00:10:57.299 And I'll go as far as to say. this is the most 00:10:57.299 --> 00:10:59.539 underrated single that the band has ever put 00:10:59.539 --> 00:11:01.960 out i feel like this should be up there with 00:11:01.960 --> 00:11:05.039 the my own worst enemies of the songs i feel 00:11:05.039 --> 00:11:07.000 like this is one of the best and i'm so glad 00:11:07.000 --> 00:11:12.279 you put it in as a bass player i love the walking 00:11:12.279 --> 00:11:15.100 that you're doing underneath the guitar riff 00:11:15.100 --> 00:11:17.620 that's very chuggy along with the drums and you're 00:11:17.620 --> 00:11:20.320 kind of moving the song into the different progressions 00:11:20.320 --> 00:11:24.100 so it's catchy and iconic for me in the catalog 00:11:24.100 --> 00:11:27.769 and it's just so upbeat There's no way that this 00:11:27.769 --> 00:11:31.429 song should not have been in this list. And if 00:11:31.429 --> 00:11:33.370 the rest of the band is listening, please put 00:11:33.370 --> 00:11:36.549 it in the set list moving forward. The self -titled 00:11:36.549 --> 00:11:39.690 album is so damn good. Thank you, man. We we 00:11:39.690 --> 00:11:42.509 hear that a lot. You know, the hardcore fans 00:11:42.509 --> 00:11:44.610 that come out. It's funny because they always 00:11:44.610 --> 00:11:47.570 we love your new stuff. But man, that black album 00:11:47.570 --> 00:11:49.230 is really, you know, they call it the black album 00:11:49.230 --> 00:11:51.889 or self -titled or whatever. But the self -titled 00:11:51.889 --> 00:11:56.299 album is is a fan favorite for sure. And man, 00:11:56.399 --> 00:11:58.539 what do we, I don't even know what we play off 00:11:58.539 --> 00:12:01.460 it. I haven't seen anything looking at setlist 00:12:01.460 --> 00:12:08.100 .fm recently. God, man, you know, new year, new 00:12:08.100 --> 00:12:10.899 setlist. I wish we would really dig deep into 00:12:10.899 --> 00:12:13.940 our pocket and grab some new songs to put in 00:12:13.940 --> 00:12:16.919 the set. Something just different and out there, 00:12:17.000 --> 00:12:20.039 man. We got a lot of really good songs. I really 00:12:20.039 --> 00:12:23.000 wish we would utilize those songs in our setlist. 00:12:23.759 --> 00:12:25.659 And to be honest with you, I should be the guy 00:12:25.659 --> 00:12:27.960 in the band that kind of keeps track of what 00:12:27.960 --> 00:12:30.860 we played in what city. Because, you know, certain 00:12:30.860 --> 00:12:33.500 big cities, you kind of hit two to three times 00:12:33.500 --> 00:12:35.679 a year. You might hit Houston, but you might 00:12:35.679 --> 00:12:38.419 hit like Cyprus right outside of Houston. And 00:12:38.419 --> 00:12:40.179 then you might hit another city outside of Houston. 00:12:40.259 --> 00:12:43.059 But ultimately, it's a lot of the same fans coming 00:12:43.059 --> 00:12:46.500 to see you. And you don't want to keep playing 00:12:46.500 --> 00:12:49.379 the same thing for them all the time. You want 00:12:49.379 --> 00:12:53.320 to give them different songs, you know. So. i 00:12:53.320 --> 00:12:56.240 don't know that's just my two cents well coming 00:12:56.240 --> 00:12:58.639 out of looks like they were right i want to keep 00:12:58.639 --> 00:13:02.320 that energy up and i do want to give the lit 00:13:02.320 --> 00:13:04.700 fans something that everybody knows so i am going 00:13:04.700 --> 00:13:08.500 to go back to 1999's a place in the sun the band's 00:13:08.500 --> 00:13:11.539 iconic album and i am going to go with ziploc 00:13:11.539 --> 00:13:15.879 look the video is iconic you got d snyder to 00:13:15.879 --> 00:13:18.799 recreate the iconic role that mark metcalf played 00:13:18.799 --> 00:13:21.120 in animal house as well as the we're not going 00:13:21.120 --> 00:13:24.059 to take it video having him in the song must 00:13:24.059 --> 00:13:28.960 have been surreal oh yeah and then in in ahem 00:13:28.960 --> 00:13:32.799 blink and you'll miss it cameo the guys from 00:13:32.799 --> 00:13:35.940 blink 182 continued their what's my age against 00:13:35.940 --> 00:13:39.419 streaking in the music video for this song i'd 00:13:39.419 --> 00:13:42.340 love to know how that whole situation came about 00:13:43.159 --> 00:13:46.899 We were well, we don't talk to him a whole lot 00:13:46.899 --> 00:13:50.700 anymore, but we saw him in Texas and outside 00:13:50.700 --> 00:13:53.580 of Dallas. We did a show with them and we ran 00:13:53.580 --> 00:13:55.399 into him. And, you know, it's like time hasn't 00:13:55.399 --> 00:13:58.159 passed. But as far as like testing them on a 00:13:58.159 --> 00:14:00.379 daily basis, you know, none of us really do that. 00:14:00.480 --> 00:14:02.539 But when we see him, it's like, you know, hugs 00:14:02.539 --> 00:14:05.779 and kisses and how you doing? But when we were 00:14:05.779 --> 00:14:07.700 on the Warped Tour, they were on their way up. 00:14:07.740 --> 00:14:09.460 Things were breaking for them and things were 00:14:09.460 --> 00:14:12.399 breaking for us. So, you know. When you're coming 00:14:12.399 --> 00:14:16.580 up with ideas for a video and especially that 00:14:16.580 --> 00:14:18.340 video where it's going to be a party scene, you 00:14:18.340 --> 00:14:21.279 know, obviously we were buddying with Blink -182 00:14:21.279 --> 00:14:23.620 at the time and they had this video where they're 00:14:23.620 --> 00:14:25.940 running naked. We were like, hey, what if you 00:14:25.940 --> 00:14:28.620 guys ran naked through our video? And obviously 00:14:28.620 --> 00:14:30.740 it's a good play for them because now it's even 00:14:30.740 --> 00:14:34.539 more MTV time of them being on MTV. Oh, my God, 00:14:34.600 --> 00:14:36.799 there's the naked guys running again. So for 00:14:36.799 --> 00:14:39.440 its time, it was a really good idea. And, you 00:14:39.440 --> 00:14:41.519 know, it's one for the books for sure. It was 00:14:41.519 --> 00:14:43.639 cool that they came down and did that. And as 00:14:43.639 --> 00:14:46.139 far as the Dee Snider Twisted Sister nod, we 00:14:46.139 --> 00:14:50.799 had that idea forever, way before we broke. We 00:14:50.799 --> 00:14:52.259 were like, man, if we ever get to do a video, 00:14:52.320 --> 00:14:55.120 how cool would it be to continue the whole Twisted 00:14:55.120 --> 00:14:57.799 Sister idea, but for ourselves, but have Dee 00:14:57.799 --> 00:15:01.240 play him and blah, blah, blah. So it worked out 00:15:01.240 --> 00:15:03.600 really well. And then we ended up being asked 00:15:03.600 --> 00:15:06.299 to be on the tribute album for Twisted Sisters. 00:15:06.379 --> 00:15:08.080 So that led to that as well. And we're still 00:15:08.080 --> 00:15:11.220 friends with Dee. when he came out to long island 00:15:11.220 --> 00:15:12.980 and came on stage and we did a quits at sister 00:15:12.980 --> 00:15:15.679 song with him and it was killer that's where 00:15:15.679 --> 00:15:18.740 they're from so imagine that well being a big 00:15:18.740 --> 00:15:21.980 cover song nerd myself i absolutely love your 00:15:21.980 --> 00:15:24.500 cover of i wanna rock and i'm not gonna lie it 00:15:24.500 --> 00:15:27.360 is sitting in my bank but i don't know if we'll 00:15:27.360 --> 00:15:30.240 get to it we gotta see all right but i also being 00:15:30.240 --> 00:15:34.419 a cover song nerd In 2010, The Wonder Years did 00:15:34.419 --> 00:15:37.320 a cover of Ziploc, and I'm curious if you ever 00:15:37.320 --> 00:15:39.500 heard it and what you thought of a cover of your 00:15:39.500 --> 00:15:43.100 band's song. I think I did hear it. I've heard 00:15:43.100 --> 00:15:45.899 a lot of My Worst Enemy covers, ranging from 00:15:45.899 --> 00:15:51.620 folk to acapella to metal, like hard, hard, hard 00:15:51.620 --> 00:15:54.340 metal. I've heard people do things to the song 00:15:54.340 --> 00:15:57.019 that I thought were really unique and kind of 00:15:57.019 --> 00:15:59.559 interesting. Like, wow, I didn't even think to 00:15:59.559 --> 00:16:01.690 do that, but they did it, you know? And then 00:16:01.690 --> 00:16:04.009 I've heard Michelle Branch. I've heard Warrant. 00:16:04.049 --> 00:16:06.929 Dude, I've heard Suicidal Tendencies cover My 00:16:06.929 --> 00:16:10.210 Worst Enemy. I've heard everybody. Yeah, I've 00:16:10.210 --> 00:16:13.090 heard everybody cover that song. All right. I 00:16:13.090 --> 00:16:15.470 think coming out of Ziploc, Ziploc was a great 00:16:15.470 --> 00:16:18.490 one because we do the bass and drums intro for 00:16:18.490 --> 00:16:20.789 a while and it gives AJ a breather. That's something 00:16:20.789 --> 00:16:22.509 else you got to think of your singer. You got 00:16:22.509 --> 00:16:24.629 to give him moments to kind of catch his breath, 00:16:24.730 --> 00:16:26.230 kind of say something to the audience, kind of 00:16:26.230 --> 00:16:29.070 chill out for a second. So we do a bass and drum 00:16:29.070 --> 00:16:32.470 kind of breakdown. or lead track into that song. 00:16:32.809 --> 00:16:35.090 So coming out of that, I think we should bounce 00:16:35.090 --> 00:16:38.610 over to, God, we already, let's see. I think 00:16:38.610 --> 00:16:42.149 we should grab something off Atomic. And I think 00:16:42.149 --> 00:16:46.289 it should be, I'm trying to think of how, let's 00:16:46.289 --> 00:16:49.009 go into Everything's Cool. It's funny, Everything's 00:16:49.009 --> 00:16:51.690 Cool was never a single, but it was kind of the 00:16:51.690 --> 00:16:55.669 unsingled single on Atomic, if that makes any 00:16:55.669 --> 00:16:58.250 sense. And a lot of people have been asking for 00:16:58.250 --> 00:17:01.129 that and addicted. Off Atomic are kind of the 00:17:01.129 --> 00:17:04.630 two requested songs. So I think we should go 00:17:04.630 --> 00:17:06.829 into Everything's Cool. Something different, 00:17:06.970 --> 00:17:09.329 you know? I think that song, I actually, again, 00:17:09.450 --> 00:17:12.190 would like to play that song live myself. AJ 00:17:12.190 --> 00:17:14.309 is up for it. I'm not sure where Jeremy stands 00:17:14.309 --> 00:17:16.569 on it. And Taylor, our drummer, is literally 00:17:16.569 --> 00:17:19.329 up for anything. He comes into the band as a 00:17:19.329 --> 00:17:23.210 Lit fan. So true story, Taylor tried out for 00:17:23.210 --> 00:17:25.490 Lit and didn't even try out because we needed 00:17:25.490 --> 00:17:29.509 him really bad. And we were told he knew everything 00:17:29.509 --> 00:17:31.529 by lit. I was like, oh, here we go. One of these 00:17:31.529 --> 00:17:35.269 guys thinking he didn't know. Literally, he played 00:17:35.269 --> 00:17:37.789 every song perfectly and then said, what else 00:17:37.789 --> 00:17:39.069 do you guys want to play? And we had to look 00:17:39.069 --> 00:17:40.690 at him and go, we literally don't know any more 00:17:40.690 --> 00:17:43.349 of our songs. And he knew he knew more songs 00:17:43.349 --> 00:17:46.609 than we did. The guy's a geek, man. He's he's 00:17:46.609 --> 00:17:48.650 crazy. He's an amazing drummer. And he definitely 00:17:48.650 --> 00:17:51.650 adds a really cool element to the band. And it's 00:17:51.650 --> 00:17:54.089 so there you go. Well, we're bouncing around 00:17:54.089 --> 00:17:57.900 the catalog and. because we hit atomic i want 00:17:57.900 --> 00:18:01.460 to jump out to 2012 and i want to go to the view 00:18:01.460 --> 00:18:04.259 from the bottom oh nice okay and i'm going to 00:18:04.259 --> 00:18:07.240 pull a song that i feel is again another extremely 00:18:07.240 --> 00:18:10.880 underrated song in the band's catalog and it's 00:18:10.880 --> 00:18:14.500 a song called you tonight thank you i wrote that 00:18:14.500 --> 00:18:17.859 one I know along with a, it says here, Marty 00:18:17.859 --> 00:18:21.180 Fredrickson and the brothers pop off. So I would 00:18:21.180 --> 00:18:23.039 love to know what it was like working with Marty 00:18:23.039 --> 00:18:25.720 Fredrickson because of he's had a lot of tons 00:18:25.720 --> 00:18:28.900 of like metal and hard rock stuff. And I feel 00:18:28.900 --> 00:18:31.420 like that's an element that between you and him, 00:18:31.460 --> 00:18:33.319 because I know you're a hard rock guy as well. 00:18:33.519 --> 00:18:35.940 I feel like you tonight has a little bit more 00:18:35.940 --> 00:18:39.259 of a hard rock edge and I feel like it sticks 00:18:39.259 --> 00:18:43.039 out in a good way for me as a hard rock fan. 00:18:43.640 --> 00:18:45.799 amongst other songs in the catalog. So I'd love 00:18:45.799 --> 00:18:49.119 to know more about this one. So fun story. I'm 00:18:49.119 --> 00:18:51.819 glad you brought that song up. We were in Nashville. 00:18:52.099 --> 00:18:55.380 Everybody was writing and AJ and Jeremy had a 00:18:55.380 --> 00:18:58.059 co -write that day. And so they left the studio 00:18:58.059 --> 00:19:00.440 and I was hanging out with Marty and our then 00:19:00.440 --> 00:19:03.339 drummer, Nate Walker. Nate Walker and I were 00:19:03.339 --> 00:19:06.180 out front on this like porch in Nashville and 00:19:06.180 --> 00:19:08.819 I had an acoustic guitar. And one thing about 00:19:08.819 --> 00:19:11.859 me and songwriting. When I write a riff, the 00:19:11.859 --> 00:19:15.059 riff is almost percussive. It has a percussive 00:19:15.059 --> 00:19:17.160 groove to it. So if you listen to You Tonight, 00:19:17.319 --> 00:19:25.039 it's... So I write a lot of riffs like that. 00:19:25.500 --> 00:19:28.200 Needle and Thread off the self -titled as well. 00:19:28.220 --> 00:19:33.420 Same kind of riff. Throw Away off of... What 00:19:33.420 --> 00:19:36.380 album was that off of? Atomic? I don't know. 00:19:36.599 --> 00:19:38.599 That was from the self -titled album as well. 00:19:39.039 --> 00:19:42.329 Yeah, yeah. Same kind of idea. It's that groovy, 00:19:42.470 --> 00:19:47.549 percussive. You know, so I tend to write riffs 00:19:47.549 --> 00:19:50.329 like that. So I wrote the riff and the music 00:19:50.329 --> 00:19:52.910 and I even came up with a melody line. And I 00:19:52.910 --> 00:19:56.589 went inside and I said, Marty, you got to admit 00:19:56.589 --> 00:19:59.430 it. He came outside and he heard me play it. 00:19:59.430 --> 00:20:01.569 He grabbed his guitar and he had to change the 00:20:01.569 --> 00:20:06.470 key because I sing super high. So my brain automatically 00:20:06.470 --> 00:20:09.029 goes to high notes and he goes, we got to. AJ's 00:20:09.029 --> 00:20:12.150 not going to be able to sing that high you know 00:20:12.150 --> 00:20:13.789 and I was like crap I didn't think of that so 00:20:13.789 --> 00:20:16.410 he helped me adjust it back down to where it 00:20:16.410 --> 00:20:18.589 would be comfortable for AJ to sing which ultimately 00:20:18.589 --> 00:20:21.829 I think worked probably better I mean I don't 00:20:21.829 --> 00:20:24.690 know that my high tenor voice would be soothing 00:20:24.690 --> 00:20:27.170 for the ears you know imagine that so imagine 00:20:27.170 --> 00:20:29.609 you the night higher you know right it probably 00:20:29.609 --> 00:20:31.529 would be rad people like it the way it is now 00:20:31.529 --> 00:20:34.210 so Marty was right in having to lower the key 00:20:34.210 --> 00:20:37.890 and uh So we did that and we started demoing 00:20:37.890 --> 00:20:40.230 up the song. And to this day, man, I kind of 00:20:40.230 --> 00:20:42.170 have demo what they call demo fever. I almost 00:20:42.170 --> 00:20:45.230 like the demo better than I like the actual recorded 00:20:45.230 --> 00:20:47.890 version of our song. There's a percussive thing 00:20:47.890 --> 00:20:50.369 in it that didn't get translate very well over 00:20:50.369 --> 00:20:53.329 to the album version. And I was so bummed. I 00:20:53.329 --> 00:20:55.910 actually tried to get Poncho Sanchez. He's a 00:20:55.910 --> 00:20:59.410 Grammy award winning Latin jazz percussionist 00:20:59.410 --> 00:21:01.650 out of Whittier, California. And I've got connections 00:21:01.650 --> 00:21:04.599 with him. And I tried to get him to do his his 00:21:04.599 --> 00:21:09.279 bongos and tablas on you tonight. And I in my 00:21:09.279 --> 00:21:11.380 head, I was like, dude, this will be so epic 00:21:11.380 --> 00:21:13.920 if he does this. It would be such a cool tie 00:21:13.920 --> 00:21:16.319 in, too. And if we did a video for the song, 00:21:16.460 --> 00:21:18.259 it would have been even better having him do 00:21:18.259 --> 00:21:21.039 it. He's got this crazy beard, big Latin dude, 00:21:21.160 --> 00:21:25.279 but ultimately never happened. So anyways, great 00:21:25.279 --> 00:21:28.339 choice. I love it. Thank you very much. And that 00:21:28.339 --> 00:21:31.220 song goes in and out of rotation on the set list 00:21:31.220 --> 00:21:34.980 currently. So I always I love the vibe of the 00:21:34.980 --> 00:21:38.420 man has an STP kind of feel to it. You know, 00:21:38.420 --> 00:21:40.920 it bounces back and forth, something like they 00:21:40.920 --> 00:21:43.440 would have written. So, OK, so we're coming off 00:21:43.440 --> 00:21:47.339 of you tonight. Yes, sir. So I think I think 00:21:47.339 --> 00:21:49.480 where are we at? Number five in the set list. 00:21:49.539 --> 00:21:52.039 We're at number seven right now. Oh, we are. 00:21:53.079 --> 00:21:56.319 OK, time to like my set list writing is going 00:21:56.319 --> 00:21:58.380 to go. And so it's time to mellow out a little 00:21:58.380 --> 00:22:00.799 bit. And one song I wish we would bring into 00:22:00.799 --> 00:22:03.619 the set list would be let's go with the wall 00:22:03.619 --> 00:22:07.700 off of a view from the bottom. Great track back 00:22:07.700 --> 00:22:09.980 to back from view from the bottom. Yeah. Why 00:22:09.980 --> 00:22:12.839 not? Right. Definitely. We got everybody there, 00:22:12.839 --> 00:22:17.339 but the wall is it's, it's a personal song. I 00:22:17.339 --> 00:22:19.480 didn't actually help write that song, but it 00:22:19.480 --> 00:22:22.900 is personal. I think it's an awesome song and 00:22:22.900 --> 00:22:26.640 there's more behind the picture than the wall, 00:22:26.759 --> 00:22:31.410 you know? That's a cool sentiment to say because 00:22:31.410 --> 00:22:33.809 everybody has a picture on the wall and that 00:22:33.809 --> 00:22:35.849 picture was taken at a special time. You know, 00:22:35.849 --> 00:22:39.990 typically a wedding picture or you and your girlfriend 00:22:39.990 --> 00:22:42.569 on the beach or maybe a picture of you on stage 00:22:42.569 --> 00:22:45.849 at a special event. You know, you can look at 00:22:45.849 --> 00:22:48.049 a picture. I'm a photographer as well. So pictures 00:22:48.049 --> 00:22:51.930 are really close to my heart. So I know what 00:22:51.930 --> 00:22:54.549 picture they're talking about. I know what the 00:22:54.549 --> 00:22:58.210 song was written about. It's a picture. That 00:22:58.210 --> 00:23:01.809 was taken on Allen's last Orange County show. 00:23:02.009 --> 00:23:04.049 And we were at the edge of the stage taking a 00:23:04.049 --> 00:23:08.150 bow. And I got these canvases made for each guy 00:23:08.150 --> 00:23:11.230 in the band to have on their wall. And it's it's 00:23:11.230 --> 00:23:13.690 that picture. It's a sold out beyond sold out 00:23:13.690 --> 00:23:17.470 crowd at the House of Blues Anaheim about 2008 00:23:17.470 --> 00:23:22.130 or might have been early 2009. But it's the four 00:23:22.130 --> 00:23:26.250 of us taking a bow, you know, packed house. And 00:23:26.250 --> 00:23:27.529 I think when they were sitting down to write 00:23:27.529 --> 00:23:30.170 that song, they co -wrote it with somebody. And 00:23:30.170 --> 00:23:32.450 somebody said, what's that picture all about? 00:23:32.609 --> 00:23:35.250 You know, and that's when I went into it, you 00:23:35.250 --> 00:23:38.150 know. Well, it's funny you should ask about that 00:23:38.150 --> 00:23:40.109 picture because there's a lot behind that picture, 00:23:40.210 --> 00:23:42.250 you know. So that's kind of how that song was 00:23:42.250 --> 00:23:45.690 written. So I was told, you know, AJ and Jeremy 00:23:45.690 --> 00:23:47.130 might be able to shed a little bit more light 00:23:47.130 --> 00:23:48.730 on it. But that's what I believe it was about. 00:23:49.490 --> 00:23:52.049 I feel like the view from the bottom as a whole 00:23:52.049 --> 00:23:55.089 was probably the and this is coming from a fan. 00:23:55.680 --> 00:23:57.759 the most personal album for the band because 00:23:57.759 --> 00:24:01.200 losing Alan, you know, a year earlier must've 00:24:01.200 --> 00:24:03.559 had a profound impact on all of you. And I feel 00:24:03.559 --> 00:24:07.119 like that comes through in these songs. Yeah, 00:24:07.259 --> 00:24:11.740 you're right. It does. And, and it did. Yeah, 00:24:11.880 --> 00:24:14.720 you're right. It's, it's a, it's a, it's crazy 00:24:14.720 --> 00:24:18.539 album for sure. Oh, another thought we're talking 00:24:18.539 --> 00:24:20.220 about the wall, but the song before that you 00:24:20.220 --> 00:24:22.839 tonight, the broken was written the same day 00:24:22.839 --> 00:24:25.880 as you tonight at the exact same time. wow fun 00:24:25.880 --> 00:24:29.440 fact wow very cool yeah so i have to ask while 00:24:29.440 --> 00:24:31.700 we're on the view from the bottom right now butch 00:24:31.700 --> 00:24:33.880 walker produced that album he's done a lot of 00:24:33.880 --> 00:24:35.900 stuff with you guys throughout the years co -writing 00:24:35.900 --> 00:24:39.960 guesting on tracks what did he bring to these 00:24:39.960 --> 00:24:41.980 sessions because obviously the band was going 00:24:41.980 --> 00:24:43.900 through a lot at that time and this was the first 00:24:43.900 --> 00:24:46.900 album from the band in eight years from the self 00:24:46.900 --> 00:24:51.789 -titled album yeah we started production on that 00:24:51.789 --> 00:24:54.250 album with a guy named Matt something. I forget 00:24:54.250 --> 00:24:56.549 his name. I hate that I forget his name, but 00:24:56.549 --> 00:24:59.470 it wasn't it wasn't jiving very well. So we jumped 00:24:59.470 --> 00:25:02.509 ship and we went with Butch Walker. So a bulk 00:25:02.509 --> 00:25:07.630 of the music was kind of there. And we were able 00:25:07.630 --> 00:25:10.650 to get in with Butch and he was able to add some 00:25:10.650 --> 00:25:13.549 bells and whistles to it. And most specifically. 00:25:14.589 --> 00:25:17.470 the what he added to uh god off the top of my 00:25:17.470 --> 00:25:19.390 head i remember being in the in the studio with 00:25:19.390 --> 00:25:22.230 butch and he brought in a floor tom two floor 00:25:22.230 --> 00:25:24.309 toms and some drumsticks and he had our drummer 00:25:24.309 --> 00:25:26.170 meet him in the in there i had no idea what the 00:25:26.170 --> 00:25:29.190 hell he was doing and he recorded this drum beat 00:25:29.190 --> 00:25:32.049 thing like a tribal beat and i was like what 00:25:32.049 --> 00:25:33.650 the hell is this for and he and he put it on 00:25:33.650 --> 00:25:37.190 um same shit different drink and there's a there's 00:25:37.190 --> 00:25:39.609 a tribal beat thing to that and he came up with 00:25:39.609 --> 00:25:42.470 that But, you know, he put Butch Walker's touch 00:25:42.470 --> 00:25:46.190 on everything and then added his deal to the 00:25:46.190 --> 00:25:48.450 whole thing. Butch, he's a sweetheart. We've 00:25:48.450 --> 00:25:51.109 known him for years. And we're always happy to... 00:25:51.109 --> 00:25:53.930 He's a close friend, so it's really easy to just 00:25:53.930 --> 00:25:56.650 bring him in on something. And he's usually, 00:25:56.849 --> 00:25:59.230 you know, if he's available, he is a busy guy. 00:25:59.410 --> 00:26:02.630 But when we can, it's great. You know, these 00:26:02.630 --> 00:26:04.630 are the days he ended up doing a video with us. 00:26:04.670 --> 00:26:07.769 We had him out for that. We've done tours with 00:26:07.769 --> 00:26:10.759 him. co -writes and all kinds of stuff with him 00:26:10.759 --> 00:26:13.839 so it was cool it was an honor to have him on 00:26:13.839 --> 00:26:16.500 it because he's a very talented guy if you're 00:26:16.500 --> 00:26:17.940 out there and you're scratching your head and 00:26:17.940 --> 00:26:20.140 asking yourself who's butch walker just go to 00:26:20.140 --> 00:26:23.299 uh go to your favorite platform music platform 00:26:23.299 --> 00:26:26.480 and type his name in and uh he's he's got a great 00:26:26.480 --> 00:26:29.119 body of work you know and he's produced the biggest 00:26:29.119 --> 00:26:31.990 bands in the world So, but even for his stuff, 00:26:31.990 --> 00:26:34.970 like the spade to me is such a fantastic album. 00:26:35.230 --> 00:26:37.190 And then you go back to the, obviously the stuff 00:26:37.190 --> 00:26:38.849 with the marvelous three, when they would tour 00:26:38.849 --> 00:26:42.089 with you guys back when, um, uh, place in the 00:26:42.089 --> 00:26:44.369 sun was blowing up. They were a frequent opener 00:26:44.369 --> 00:26:46.769 on a lot of your shows, at least through my area 00:26:46.769 --> 00:26:49.750 in the tri -state area. He, what they were. Yeah. 00:26:50.109 --> 00:26:52.789 Yeah. We did a whole tour with them. Yep. Yeah. 00:26:52.829 --> 00:26:54.869 I think he had a song called mix. Yes, sir. That 00:26:54.869 --> 00:26:58.170 was from the 2004 album letters. Yes. Yes. Fun 00:26:58.170 --> 00:27:01.289 fact. All right, so coming out of the wall, I 00:27:01.289 --> 00:27:03.829 want to pick it back up again. All right. And 00:27:03.829 --> 00:27:05.930 I'm going to go all the way back to the beginning. 00:27:06.009 --> 00:27:08.769 I'm going to go back to 1996, and I'm going to 00:27:08.769 --> 00:27:11.569 go off of five smoking tracks from. All right. 00:27:12.130 --> 00:27:14.710 Hurry Up, Wait Up. I'm going to go with Bitter. 00:27:15.450 --> 00:27:19.210 Yeah, man. Another one, man. My guys will not 00:27:19.210 --> 00:27:22.690 do it, but I would rock that. I know, dude. I 00:27:22.690 --> 00:27:24.349 would rock that in a set in a heartbeat, dude. 00:27:24.410 --> 00:27:27.500 It's a banger. Why wouldn't you? Why wouldn't 00:27:27.500 --> 00:27:30.839 you bang the crap out of the crowd? Wow. Mind 00:27:30.839 --> 00:27:33.339 blown. That would be one that I would just think 00:27:33.339 --> 00:27:34.880 because that's the roots. That's where it all 00:27:34.880 --> 00:27:37.960 started. The first song on the first EP, like 00:27:37.960 --> 00:27:40.400 for the, I guess you'd call it the OGs, the original 00:27:40.400 --> 00:27:43.319 fan base. That was everyone's first introduction 00:27:43.319 --> 00:27:47.700 to the band. Yeah, I know, man. All right. All 00:27:47.700 --> 00:27:50.119 right. So we come off that and then we're going 00:27:50.119 --> 00:27:53.569 to go into a life that I got. We're going to 00:27:53.569 --> 00:27:54.869 go. We're going to bring them all the way up 00:27:54.869 --> 00:27:57.509 to the new album, to the song that we are currently 00:27:57.509 --> 00:28:00.250 pushing. We are currently playing our set now 00:28:00.250 --> 00:28:02.630 and it's doing very well. People love it. We 00:28:02.630 --> 00:28:05.869 just played the rock boat, Sister Hazel's rock 00:28:05.869 --> 00:28:08.509 boat. And we had American authors come up on 00:28:08.509 --> 00:28:10.890 stage and do Life That I Got With Us because 00:28:10.890 --> 00:28:13.809 they co -wrote that song with us. Yes. And dude, 00:28:13.869 --> 00:28:15.730 having them up on stage, going back and forth 00:28:15.730 --> 00:28:18.490 with AJ on the vocals was killer. It was a lot 00:28:18.490 --> 00:28:21.619 of fun. It's a great song. I love the new album. 00:28:21.700 --> 00:28:24.700 And I, you know, obviously we haven't of all 00:28:24.700 --> 00:28:27.019 the albums we've talked about tonight so far, 00:28:27.180 --> 00:28:30.400 we have not talked about, and I don't know if 00:28:30.400 --> 00:28:32.619 we will, I have some tracks from it sitting in 00:28:32.619 --> 00:28:36.740 my list, but 2017, these are the days I just 00:28:36.740 --> 00:28:40.039 haven't found a place that a song will fit yet. 00:28:40.779 --> 00:28:44.319 Right. But we still have a whole second side 00:28:44.319 --> 00:28:47.529 to go, but coming out of the life I got. i'm 00:28:47.529 --> 00:28:50.109 actually gonna do something and go deep again 00:28:50.109 --> 00:28:54.769 all right because to me this is a song that closes 00:28:54.769 --> 00:28:58.150 a very personal album for the band and to me 00:28:58.150 --> 00:29:01.630 it just feels like one of those power pop tracks 00:29:01.630 --> 00:29:05.130 that i think would have been a massive hit for 00:29:05.130 --> 00:29:07.009 the band had it been released as a single and 00:29:07.009 --> 00:29:09.829 i'm gonna go with the closing track for the third 00:29:09.829 --> 00:29:12.109 time on side a from the view from the bottom 00:29:12.109 --> 00:29:15.519 and i'm gonna go with right this time yeah I 00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:18.299 feel like this is the band flexing some power 00:29:18.299 --> 00:29:21.019 pop muscles. And this is the kind of song that 00:29:21.019 --> 00:29:23.700 I would hear on a road trip in a convertible 00:29:23.700 --> 00:29:28.740 with the top down. It's a feel good song. Yeah, 00:29:29.079 --> 00:29:32.000 it's very reflective. It just puts you kind of 00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:34.359 like in the rear view mirror. And I feel like, 00:29:34.359 --> 00:29:38.000 you know, the album was very deep, the view from 00:29:38.000 --> 00:29:39.880 the bottom. But I feel like there was this positive 00:29:39.880 --> 00:29:42.500 outlook at the end of it that really, you know, 00:29:42.500 --> 00:29:45.259 signal the future ahead for the band. after a 00:29:45.259 --> 00:29:49.019 really terrible thing happens, obviously. So 00:29:49.019 --> 00:29:52.619 to me, that song is a perfect set closer or a 00:29:52.619 --> 00:29:55.259 perfect side closer in this instance. And I'm 00:29:55.259 --> 00:29:57.599 going to go with Right This Time. Dude, thanks. 00:29:57.700 --> 00:30:00.640 Yeah, that's a good one, man. I'm loving that 00:30:00.640 --> 00:30:03.539 you're grabbing these songs, you know? This is 00:30:03.539 --> 00:30:06.200 fun. It's a fun way to do an interview. Doing 00:30:06.200 --> 00:30:09.690 a mixtape is great. Thank you. Well, that just 00:30:09.690 --> 00:30:13.069 closed side A. So what I'm going to do now, I'm 00:30:13.069 --> 00:30:15.650 going to review side A with our mixtapers. And 00:30:15.650 --> 00:30:19.009 we kick things off with My World, Kicked Off 00:30:19.009 --> 00:30:22.690 the Plane, Looks Like They Were Right, Ziploc, 00:30:22.930 --> 00:30:28.150 Everything's Cool, You Tonight, The Wall, Bitter, 00:30:28.349 --> 00:30:33.309 The Life I Got, and Right This Time. Wow. You 00:30:33.309 --> 00:30:35.910 could always head over to myweeklymixtape .com 00:30:35.910 --> 00:30:38.210 to hear all the songs we've discussed in this 00:30:38.210 --> 00:30:41.440 mix. through the lit playlist embedded on the 00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:44.960 episode page now before we flip this proverbial 00:30:44.960 --> 00:30:48.759 mixtape over to side b kevin 2022 was a busy 00:30:48.759 --> 00:30:51.019 year for the band tastes like gold was your first 00:30:51.019 --> 00:30:54.779 album in a long while and you also did some tracks 00:30:54.779 --> 00:30:56.779 with other musicians that i just wanted to highlight 00:30:56.779 --> 00:30:59.440 for a second the first being a song you guys 00:30:59.440 --> 00:31:01.819 recorded with diamante called american dream 00:31:01.819 --> 00:31:05.619 how did that pairing come together well taylor 00:31:05.619 --> 00:31:09.880 our drummer is the boyfriend of diamante so he 00:31:09.880 --> 00:31:12.500 came to us and we all kind of just were like 00:31:12.500 --> 00:31:14.160 yeah do whatever you want to do you know blah 00:31:14.160 --> 00:31:17.180 blah and i'm glad we did that song but in hindsight 00:31:17.180 --> 00:31:19.819 i kind of wish we would have done something new 00:31:19.819 --> 00:31:22.380 for her new for us basically we just covered 00:31:22.380 --> 00:31:24.420 her song you know it was already written it was 00:31:24.420 --> 00:31:27.059 her song which i think is neat it shows a different 00:31:27.059 --> 00:31:30.220 side of lit you know and maybe a different kind 00:31:30.220 --> 00:31:33.160 of sound i guess and it was all in fun it's done 00:31:33.160 --> 00:31:36.690 very well we never did a video for it They did 00:31:36.690 --> 00:31:39.109 some kind of video for it, but not like a video 00:31:39.109 --> 00:31:42.490 video. A lot of rehearsal footage. Yeah. I wish 00:31:42.490 --> 00:31:46.490 we would have probably done a cover, but some 00:31:46.490 --> 00:31:49.910 kind of deep cut cover and we could have whipped 00:31:49.910 --> 00:31:52.410 it up and made it something different. You know, 00:31:52.430 --> 00:31:53.769 I don't know what that cover would have been. 00:31:54.150 --> 00:31:56.930 You know, I don't know, Pat Benatar, but or maybe 00:31:56.930 --> 00:31:59.529 there's a duet out there of a guy and girl and 00:31:59.529 --> 00:32:02.309 we rock that out and then they have their parts, 00:32:02.390 --> 00:32:06.369 you know. I'm almost hearing. Dare I say it? 00:32:06.910 --> 00:32:10.430 Stop dragging my heart around. Oh, yeah. Stevie 00:32:10.430 --> 00:32:12.430 Nicks and Tom Petty. I could hear a little bit 00:32:12.430 --> 00:32:15.349 of that punk flavor being added to that. Yeah. 00:32:16.569 --> 00:32:19.910 Yeah, that could be cool. Maybe I'll bring that 00:32:19.910 --> 00:32:22.670 up. If it happens, you could say you heard it 00:32:22.670 --> 00:32:25.670 here first. I would love that. That's a good 00:32:25.670 --> 00:32:27.750 one. You love the Tom Petty, you know? Oh, of 00:32:27.750 --> 00:32:30.349 course, man. Of course. Another track the band 00:32:30.349 --> 00:32:35.500 appeared on in 2022 is Chad Tepper's 777. Yeah. 00:32:35.500 --> 00:32:38.180 AJ found him online. I don't even know how he 00:32:38.180 --> 00:32:39.539 found him. And he brought him to our attention. 00:32:40.299 --> 00:32:43.400 And then it started with having him do a show, 00:32:43.460 --> 00:32:47.299 a local show. He's from L .A. and we did a hometown 00:32:47.299 --> 00:32:51.160 show. Well, hometown for the history of lit goes. 00:32:51.400 --> 00:32:53.319 I mean, Jeremy and AJ live in Tennessee now, 00:32:53.420 --> 00:32:56.500 but we played House of Blues Anaheim and we just 00:32:56.500 --> 00:32:59.220 wanted fresh new blood on the bill. So we picked 00:32:59.220 --> 00:33:02.630 all fresh new blood. to be on the bill with us. 00:33:02.690 --> 00:33:05.230 And Chad was on the bill with us. And that's 00:33:05.230 --> 00:33:07.549 where, you know, leading up to the show, obviously 00:33:07.549 --> 00:33:09.410 we were going back and forth with them on, on 00:33:09.410 --> 00:33:11.369 helping to promote the show and whatnot. And 00:33:11.369 --> 00:33:14.789 then when we did the show, I think that just 00:33:14.789 --> 00:33:16.650 led to, Hey, we got to write a song together, 00:33:16.730 --> 00:33:18.829 blah, blah, blah. And AJ and Jeremy wrote that 00:33:18.829 --> 00:33:21.950 song with him. So, but every day I take my kid 00:33:21.950 --> 00:33:23.509 to school, he's listening to that song literally 00:33:23.509 --> 00:33:26.309 every day. And it's a great song. It's a great 00:33:26.309 --> 00:33:29.089 track. I absolutely love it. Well, with that, 00:33:29.150 --> 00:33:32.069 we're going to move on to side B. and i get to 00:33:32.069 --> 00:33:35.390 kick off side b okay i want to kick off side 00:33:35.390 --> 00:33:38.630 b with some aggression but i want to go old school 00:33:38.630 --> 00:33:43.089 but also slightly newer school if you will so 00:33:43.089 --> 00:33:45.230 i am going to go with a song that was featured 00:33:45.230 --> 00:33:48.930 on five smoking tracks from tripping the life 00:33:48.930 --> 00:33:52.069 fantastic as well as the version i picked which 00:33:52.069 --> 00:33:55.029 was on a place in the sun i'm gonna kick off 00:33:55.029 --> 00:33:58.869 side b with no big thing yep no big thing all 00:33:58.869 --> 00:34:03.619 right My question for that is how and why did 00:34:03.619 --> 00:34:06.799 the song end up on three subsequent releases? 00:34:06.859 --> 00:34:09.639 Was it a song that you guys all felt very strongly 00:34:09.639 --> 00:34:12.880 about? Or I mean, the song kicks ass. That's 00:34:12.880 --> 00:34:15.480 why I'm putting it on here. Yeah, it just kind 00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:18.059 of for its time. It really fit all the different 00:34:18.059 --> 00:34:21.980 key ingredients that we loved. The EP was a delicious 00:34:21.980 --> 00:34:25.639 vinyls idea. I want to say maybe that the EP 00:34:25.639 --> 00:34:28.139 is the demo version. And then we did a trip and 00:34:28.139 --> 00:34:30.960 a light fantastic version and that album did 00:34:30.960 --> 00:34:34.019 okay. So when it came down time to do the RCA, 00:34:34.139 --> 00:34:35.840 we were set, we said, Hey, let's give that song 00:34:35.840 --> 00:34:38.420 another chance. You know, let's, let's try and 00:34:38.420 --> 00:34:41.380 do it. So we recorded it yet again, you know, 00:34:41.380 --> 00:34:43.820 we love that song and it went away for a long 00:34:43.820 --> 00:34:46.739 time and it's back in the set now. So it's a 00:34:46.739 --> 00:34:50.480 fun, easy song for people to chew on, you know, 00:34:50.480 --> 00:34:53.050 and it. There's nothing else like it in the set. 00:34:53.170 --> 00:34:56.510 You know, it's kind of our our nod to like face 00:34:56.510 --> 00:34:59.429 to face, which is a SoCal punk band that we grew 00:34:59.429 --> 00:35:02.250 up. And it's the closest thing we got to a face 00:35:02.250 --> 00:35:05.130 to face song. And, you know, now that you mention 00:35:05.130 --> 00:35:07.889 it, I hear that big time. Wow. That is that is 00:35:07.889 --> 00:35:11.909 awesome. Yeah, definitely. My first punk pit 00:35:11.909 --> 00:35:14.989 was face to face. AJ grabbed me by the arm and 00:35:14.989 --> 00:35:16.929 threw me in the pit. And all of a sudden there 00:35:16.929 --> 00:35:19.079 I was. And it was a big pit. And this is about 00:35:19.079 --> 00:35:23.300 94, 95, I guess. I don't know what album they 00:35:23.300 --> 00:35:26.079 were on, but it was early. And the venue was 00:35:26.079 --> 00:35:27.719 called the Ice House. And it's now, I think, 00:35:27.719 --> 00:35:32.139 a Korean church right in Fullerton. But so going 00:35:32.139 --> 00:35:34.480 into our next song, it's funny because you kind 00:35:34.480 --> 00:35:37.099 of put the carriage before the horse or however 00:35:37.099 --> 00:35:39.619 they say that, because we usually do miserable 00:35:39.619 --> 00:35:42.380 into no big thing. But you're doing no big thing 00:35:42.380 --> 00:35:44.739 and I'm going into miserable. So we got to throw 00:35:44.739 --> 00:35:47.840 miserable in there. The bass player for Lit of 00:35:47.840 --> 00:35:51.099 me is knowing that we should probably throw some 00:35:51.099 --> 00:35:53.960 singles in there. And you already got, looks 00:35:53.960 --> 00:35:56.820 like they were right, Bitter, Ziploc in there. 00:35:56.900 --> 00:35:59.039 But we need Miserable in there. So I got to plop 00:35:59.039 --> 00:36:02.760 that in there. So I'm going to wage a wild guess 00:36:02.760 --> 00:36:05.300 here. You've played with the band on a lot of 00:36:05.300 --> 00:36:09.880 stages, be it boats, theaters, stadiums. I'm 00:36:09.880 --> 00:36:12.940 guessing the stage, quote unquote, that you played 00:36:12.940 --> 00:36:14.840 on in that video might be your favorite of all 00:36:14.840 --> 00:36:19.699 time. Oh, yeah. For those that don't know, that 00:36:19.699 --> 00:36:23.119 would be the video where they played on, I guess 00:36:23.119 --> 00:36:25.480 you would just say, Pam Anderson's butt. Yeah, 00:36:25.500 --> 00:36:29.059 every part of her body we played on. That was 00:36:29.059 --> 00:36:31.460 a very special time, man. The funny thing behind 00:36:31.460 --> 00:36:34.019 that video is RCA came to us with a treatment 00:36:34.019 --> 00:36:37.139 that we would be performing on a 50 -foot woman's 00:36:37.139 --> 00:36:40.380 body, and then she would eat us at the end, and 00:36:40.380 --> 00:36:42.380 we were completely against it until we got asked 00:36:42.380 --> 00:36:44.519 to do VIP, and then we circled back around and 00:36:44.519 --> 00:36:47.059 said, listen, If you can get Pam to be the 50 00:36:47.059 --> 00:36:50.039 foot woman, we'll do it. So we'll talk to her 00:36:50.039 --> 00:36:51.900 people. And then she came back with the idea. 00:36:52.059 --> 00:36:53.900 All right, we'll premiere the video. I'll do 00:36:53.900 --> 00:36:55.480 the video, but we're going to premiere it on 00:36:55.480 --> 00:36:57.760 my VIP show. And so we were like, all right, 00:36:57.760 --> 00:37:00.619 done deal. And so it really, really worked out 00:37:00.619 --> 00:37:03.199 in everybody's favor. And it was really special 00:37:03.199 --> 00:37:06.820 that she did it. We hated the idea of a 50 foot 00:37:06.820 --> 00:37:08.480 woman. We thought it was kind of lame. And all 00:37:08.480 --> 00:37:10.719 of a sudden you plop the idea of Pam being the 00:37:10.719 --> 00:37:13.480 50 foot woman. And you're like, oh, OK, yeah, 00:37:13.599 --> 00:37:16.530 that could be cool. I'm glad that you flipped 00:37:16.530 --> 00:37:18.590 the two together because I was at some point 00:37:18.590 --> 00:37:20.650 debating if I went with Miserable, if you would 00:37:20.650 --> 00:37:22.710 take the nod and go to No Big Thing. But I said, 00:37:22.730 --> 00:37:24.989 you know what? We're going a little deeper tonight. 00:37:25.090 --> 00:37:26.610 And I like that. And I'm going to go a little 00:37:26.610 --> 00:37:30.090 deeper again. But I'm going to go with 2001's 00:37:30.090 --> 00:37:32.110 Atomic. And this is something we talked about 00:37:32.110 --> 00:37:34.670 earlier in the night. And I'm so glad you mentioned 00:37:34.670 --> 00:37:38.269 it because, yeah. Oh, yeah. I think this should 00:37:38.269 --> 00:37:41.389 be in every lit set list. It's one of the most 00:37:41.389 --> 00:37:43.710 underrated songs in the band's catalog. I'm going 00:37:43.710 --> 00:37:46.849 with Addicted. OK, I'll back that. I like that. 00:37:47.829 --> 00:37:51.210 And then to follow that up, I'm going to we got 00:37:51.210 --> 00:37:53.530 to touch on the new album and I'm going to go 00:37:53.530 --> 00:37:55.949 with a single off the new album. I'm going to 00:37:55.949 --> 00:37:58.949 go with Mouth Shut. Nice. You worked with Adrian 00:37:58.949 --> 00:38:00.989 Young of No Doubt on that song. What was that 00:38:00.989 --> 00:38:03.849 like? Yeah, he's an old friend of ours and he 00:38:03.849 --> 00:38:06.210 lives in Southern California. I mean, it almost 00:38:06.210 --> 00:38:08.090 doesn't matter where anybody lives anymore. Right. 00:38:08.190 --> 00:38:10.389 You could just you could send tracks via email. 00:38:11.130 --> 00:38:13.789 So he has a studio at his house, so he played 00:38:13.789 --> 00:38:16.110 the drums in his basement to that. So when you 00:38:16.110 --> 00:38:19.769 listen to Mouth Shut, it's funny. I go into rabbit 00:38:19.769 --> 00:38:21.929 holes and I was on a rabbit hole on Spotify the 00:38:21.929 --> 00:38:23.989 other day and I went into, you know, if you go 00:38:23.989 --> 00:38:26.690 look up a band like Litter, No Doubt, you scroll 00:38:26.690 --> 00:38:29.510 down and it says this is No Doubt, right? And 00:38:29.510 --> 00:38:31.829 you go into that folder and it'll give you all 00:38:31.829 --> 00:38:34.090 kind of like the top songs that you should listen 00:38:34.090 --> 00:38:37.349 to to really know who No Doubt is, right? Well, 00:38:37.429 --> 00:38:40.090 Mouth Shut is in there. in that folder and i 00:38:40.090 --> 00:38:42.369 thought that was pretty cool you know yeah he's 00:38:42.369 --> 00:38:45.250 a hell of a drummer he's got a unique style of 00:38:45.250 --> 00:38:49.010 his own yeah he's a great guy too man he's he's 00:38:49.010 --> 00:38:51.349 the sweetest dude and he's he's off his rocker 00:38:51.349 --> 00:38:53.989 but in a really good way you know he he doesn't 00:38:53.989 --> 00:38:57.190 take life too seriously but he has fun he knows 00:38:57.190 --> 00:38:59.449 how to have fun and we we've got nothing but 00:38:59.449 --> 00:39:01.570 great stories and him and alan were really close 00:39:01.570 --> 00:39:05.269 and uh he wore a shirt in the video i heart owl 00:39:05.269 --> 00:39:07.989 and that was a shirt that was at the uh house 00:39:07.989 --> 00:39:11.139 of blues show for alan to raise money for him 00:39:11.139 --> 00:39:13.880 when he was sick uh it's also the same show where 00:39:13.880 --> 00:39:16.219 we did the bowel that ended up being the photo 00:39:16.219 --> 00:39:21.679 that is mentioned in the wall so all that wow 00:39:21.679 --> 00:39:25.159 if you back of all that yeah so well full circle 00:39:25.159 --> 00:39:28.360 moment there yeah there you go what are you gonna 00:39:28.360 --> 00:39:30.800 follow that up with i i gotta go back to the 00:39:30.800 --> 00:39:35.190 self -titled album i love that album i'm so so 00:39:35.190 --> 00:39:37.329 thankful for that album it's got so many great 00:39:37.329 --> 00:39:41.449 songs that i feel are just not represented anymore 00:39:41.449 --> 00:39:43.210 and that should be and i'm gonna go with the 00:39:43.210 --> 00:39:47.510 album opener too fast for a u -turn this song 00:39:47.510 --> 00:39:53.010 is ridiculously heavy it is bombastic i love 00:39:53.010 --> 00:39:55.429 the whole i gotta get get get to you it's got 00:39:55.429 --> 00:39:58.409 that just it's choppy and it's what a way to 00:39:58.409 --> 00:40:00.789 kick off an album and i said it before the band's 00:40:00.789 --> 00:40:04.230 most underrated album I wish this album got more 00:40:04.230 --> 00:40:07.929 love because it truly has some great music on 00:40:07.929 --> 00:40:11.230 it. And coming out of mouth shut, I feel like 00:40:11.230 --> 00:40:14.070 you're cranking up the energy a little bit before 00:40:14.070 --> 00:40:16.050 we kind of get to the big finish of the mixtape 00:40:16.050 --> 00:40:19.090 here. So too fast for a U -turn. Okay. I'll be 00:40:19.090 --> 00:40:22.170 curious where this sits in your mind with the 00:40:22.170 --> 00:40:25.289 band. I love you. We just call it simply U -turn. 00:40:25.389 --> 00:40:28.030 It was on a set list for a long, long, long time. 00:40:28.650 --> 00:40:31.869 I like it. It's a different kind of sound for 00:40:31.869 --> 00:40:35.090 us. Jeremy's using a special pedal on that that 00:40:35.090 --> 00:40:37.530 gives us a unique sound. And oddly enough, I 00:40:37.530 --> 00:40:40.510 do a very kind of weird tuning on my bass for 00:40:40.510 --> 00:40:43.250 that song. And I love it when bass players come 00:40:43.250 --> 00:40:45.530 up to me and go, what are you tuned to on that 00:40:45.530 --> 00:40:48.130 to get that song? Because it's not E and it's 00:40:48.130 --> 00:40:51.150 not half step down. But in order for me to hit 00:40:51.150 --> 00:40:54.409 that low note, I just simply go, I just tune 00:40:54.409 --> 00:40:56.989 my bass, the E string just slightly down to the 00:40:56.989 --> 00:40:59.929 11th note on the A string. So live, I just slide 00:40:59.929 --> 00:41:02.630 my finger down and I hit both strings and I just 00:41:02.630 --> 00:41:05.750 tune it down. And then I can play the song that 00:41:05.750 --> 00:41:09.309 way. Wild. Because the E wasn't low enough to 00:41:09.309 --> 00:41:11.429 hit that low note. So when we wrote the song, 00:41:11.449 --> 00:41:13.190 I was like, where is it? It was just one note 00:41:13.190 --> 00:41:16.469 down from E, high E, because I was going to have 00:41:16.469 --> 00:41:19.050 to hit that high note. And I was like, screw 00:41:19.050 --> 00:41:20.690 that. I'm just going to tune the E down to that 00:41:20.690 --> 00:41:23.369 note. If you're a guitar player or bass player, 00:41:23.489 --> 00:41:25.610 you know what I'm talking about. But I just wanted 00:41:25.610 --> 00:41:27.789 that low note for the song. So it was simply 00:41:27.789 --> 00:41:31.030 an adjustment on the E string, and I did it. 00:41:31.070 --> 00:41:32.710 And then I would just tune right back up at the 00:41:32.710 --> 00:41:35.329 end of the song. So it would literally take me 00:41:35.329 --> 00:41:38.030 a second to tune down, tune up, you know? All 00:41:38.030 --> 00:41:42.409 right. I love it. I get some bass nerd out of 00:41:42.409 --> 00:41:47.050 this tonight as well. Yeah. So track six. Oh, 00:41:47.190 --> 00:41:49.739 okay. I would definitely have to bring this into 00:41:49.739 --> 00:41:52.400 the set. It's I got a couple already in my head 00:41:52.400 --> 00:41:54.280 that I know we got to add to the set, but we 00:41:54.280 --> 00:41:57.900 have to put four in there. Four is that it's 00:41:57.900 --> 00:42:00.900 almost the it's the single that never was. And 00:42:00.900 --> 00:42:03.139 every person that went out and bought A Place 00:42:03.139 --> 00:42:05.679 in the Sun had to hear this song. It's not a 00:42:05.679 --> 00:42:07.739 deep song on the album. It's the first track 00:42:07.739 --> 00:42:11.780 off the biggest album. And so four almost is 00:42:11.780 --> 00:42:15.079 like its own single. So it's awesome when you 00:42:15.079 --> 00:42:17.280 open with that song or even play it in the set, 00:42:17.340 --> 00:42:20.280 because it's almost like we can plot for anywhere 00:42:20.280 --> 00:42:23.480 in the set. And it's almost as if you're starting 00:42:23.480 --> 00:42:26.440 the set now. So currently we open with a kicked 00:42:26.440 --> 00:42:30.159 off the plane and then we kick into four. Nice. 00:42:30.579 --> 00:42:33.000 Almost like we go out and test the waters with 00:42:33.000 --> 00:42:35.300 kicked off the plane. And then the set starts 00:42:35.300 --> 00:42:37.500 with four. You know, it's kind of how it feels 00:42:37.500 --> 00:42:39.739 right now. It's kind of rad. But I'm going to 00:42:39.739 --> 00:42:41.980 add four in there because it's. it's a rocker 00:42:41.980 --> 00:42:45.380 you know and it's it's a great song i absolutely 00:42:45.380 --> 00:42:49.579 love it obviously it kicks off the band's seminal 00:42:49.579 --> 00:42:52.599 album that everybody should know i am going to 00:42:52.599 --> 00:42:54.699 follow that up though with track seven i'm going 00:42:54.699 --> 00:42:56.420 to bring it down a notch because i feel like 00:42:56.420 --> 00:42:59.280 right before the end you want to have that moment 00:42:59.280 --> 00:43:02.360 you want to have the lighters up in the air and 00:43:02.360 --> 00:43:05.019 i've always been curious about this i'm going 00:43:05.019 --> 00:43:10.389 to go off of 2002's mr deeds soundtrack Oh, yeah. 00:43:10.510 --> 00:43:12.769 And I'm going to go with happy in the meantime, 00:43:12.929 --> 00:43:15.010 but I'm going to go with the remix, which actually 00:43:15.010 --> 00:43:18.949 features more drums and bass versus the version 00:43:18.949 --> 00:43:22.110 on Atomic, which is just straight up acoustic. 00:43:22.650 --> 00:43:25.469 I'm very curious why there were two versions 00:43:25.469 --> 00:43:28.889 of that song and, you know, what the reasoning 00:43:28.889 --> 00:43:31.309 behind it was going to the soundtrack with kind 00:43:31.309 --> 00:43:34.349 of a full band version. Kind of out of our hands, 00:43:34.389 --> 00:43:36.650 but we kind of backed it. I'm going to all transparency. 00:43:37.440 --> 00:43:41.860 it's a special song and and uh it is you know 00:43:41.860 --> 00:43:45.599 the song wasn't written to be a hit it was just 00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:47.920 a song written because it was a it was a thought 00:43:47.920 --> 00:43:51.000 it was a and it hit close to home for us you 00:43:51.000 --> 00:43:52.880 know being happy in the meantime and all that 00:43:52.880 --> 00:43:58.940 so but when it came around to having to select 00:43:58.940 --> 00:44:02.670 another single off of atomic Lipstick and Bruises 00:44:02.670 --> 00:44:05.349 wasn't My Own Worst Enemy. I love Lipstick and 00:44:05.349 --> 00:44:07.010 Bruises. And if you're a Lit fan, you love that 00:44:07.010 --> 00:44:10.250 song. But it's not My Own Worst Enemy. It's not 00:44:10.250 --> 00:44:12.610 meant maybe for the masses, I guess. I don't 00:44:12.610 --> 00:44:15.130 know. But RCA wanted to see what they could do 00:44:15.130 --> 00:44:17.929 with Happy in the Meantime. And so they were 00:44:17.929 --> 00:44:20.969 like, well, let's try and add drums to this. 00:44:21.050 --> 00:44:24.090 So we went back in the studio and tried to pepper 00:44:24.090 --> 00:44:26.690 it up a little bit and kind of almost turn it 00:44:26.690 --> 00:44:31.039 into a different song. I don't know that we ever 00:44:31.039 --> 00:44:33.519 went to radio with it. As a matter of fact, where 00:44:33.519 --> 00:44:36.239 did you find that song? Is it out there? It's 00:44:36.239 --> 00:44:39.420 on the Mr. Deeds soundtrack as well as the platinum 00:44:39.420 --> 00:44:43.860 and gold compilation for the band. Got it. Got 00:44:43.860 --> 00:44:47.519 it. All right. So I got to look that up and listen 00:44:47.519 --> 00:44:50.920 to it. I haven't heard that in years. I mean, 00:44:50.920 --> 00:44:54.579 for one, I haven't watched Mr. Deeds since it 00:44:54.579 --> 00:44:56.159 actually probably came out. I don't even know 00:44:56.159 --> 00:44:58.289 if I finished the whole thing. That's with Adam 00:44:58.289 --> 00:45:00.590 Sandler, right? Yeah, we watched it with the 00:45:00.590 --> 00:45:03.630 kids because my daughter has, my 14 -year -old 00:45:03.630 --> 00:45:06.150 has an affinity for Adam Sandler humor right 00:45:06.150 --> 00:45:08.630 now. So we're kind of doing the Adam Sandler, 00:45:08.670 --> 00:45:12.030 Billy Madison, Happy Gilmore, Mr. Deeds kind 00:45:12.030 --> 00:45:15.250 of binge with her right now. Okay. Yeah, I got 00:45:15.250 --> 00:45:17.369 to check that out. When my kid gets done with 00:45:17.369 --> 00:45:20.030 the football year, I'm going to go on Spotify 00:45:20.030 --> 00:45:22.010 and see if I can't find that. I'm going to follow 00:45:22.010 --> 00:45:24.409 up your Happy in the Meantime. I'm going to throw 00:45:24.409 --> 00:45:27.199 another single in there. And I love that we brought 00:45:27.199 --> 00:45:29.159 this back. Did I already put Lipstick and Bruises 00:45:29.159 --> 00:45:32.480 in this? You did not. It's got to be in there, 00:45:32.539 --> 00:45:36.500 man. It's a banger, man. It's a great song. I 00:45:36.500 --> 00:45:40.059 love the video. And so I'm dropping that one 00:45:40.059 --> 00:45:43.940 on you. So then I have to ask, why hasn't the 00:45:43.940 --> 00:45:46.980 band created a Mulletron action figure? Because 00:45:46.980 --> 00:45:51.139 I want one. You're not wrong, man. We should. 00:45:51.300 --> 00:45:54.460 We really should. I don't know who we would call. 00:45:55.050 --> 00:45:58.449 But yeah, we should, man. Well, coming out of 00:45:58.449 --> 00:46:00.869 that, I am just going to throw the gauntlet down. 00:46:02.110 --> 00:46:04.969 Obviously, we have two songs left, one pick each. 00:46:05.550 --> 00:46:08.369 And I am going to go with the obvious pick so 00:46:08.369 --> 00:46:10.349 that we could close with something different. 00:46:10.699 --> 00:46:13.420 But I am going to go with my own worst enemy 00:46:13.420 --> 00:46:17.420 here in track nine, because I feel like for an 00:46:17.420 --> 00:46:20.019 encore at the end of the tape, I would like the 00:46:20.019 --> 00:46:22.360 band to have kind of a different pick to kind 00:46:22.360 --> 00:46:25.159 of close the set out. But I do want to ask, because 00:46:25.159 --> 00:46:28.219 we're talking about movies right now, this song 00:46:28.219 --> 00:46:30.679 has had a resurgence in the last year because 00:46:30.679 --> 00:46:33.380 of the fact it was featured in the trailer for 00:46:33.380 --> 00:46:36.599 Clerks 3, which I won't spoil anything because 00:46:36.599 --> 00:46:39.940 I hate spoiling movies for people. If you haven't 00:46:39.940 --> 00:46:43.280 seen Clerks 3 yet, wow, that's all I'm going 00:46:43.280 --> 00:46:46.400 to say. But for you guys, how did it feel hearing 00:46:46.400 --> 00:46:48.659 that song back in the soundtrack for a movie 00:46:48.659 --> 00:46:52.099 that people kind of waited decades for this trilogy 00:46:52.099 --> 00:46:55.360 to finally come to a close? I was honored because 00:46:55.360 --> 00:46:57.980 Clerks has obviously got its hardcore following. 00:46:58.619 --> 00:47:01.380 So when we found out, obviously, way ahead of 00:47:01.380 --> 00:47:04.760 time that it was going to be featured in that. 00:47:04.880 --> 00:47:07.219 And so it was an honor for sure. And it felt 00:47:07.219 --> 00:47:10.849 good, obviously. You probably don't hear a lot 00:47:10.849 --> 00:47:14.809 of the movies that My Worst Enemy is a part of 00:47:14.809 --> 00:47:18.710 or commercials or bumper music. Dude, it's almost 00:47:18.710 --> 00:47:22.590 weekly, if not daily. It's somebody sending us 00:47:22.590 --> 00:47:24.070 something like, hey, I heard your song here. 00:47:24.170 --> 00:47:26.590 Did you realize that your song is a part of this 00:47:26.590 --> 00:47:29.349 and blah, blah, blah. And you say yes to things. 00:47:29.710 --> 00:47:31.989 And then it takes six months to a year for it 00:47:31.989 --> 00:47:34.190 to finally come out. And then it hits, you know. 00:47:34.670 --> 00:47:37.110 I forget how long Clerks was. I mean, it could 00:47:37.110 --> 00:47:38.710 have been six months and then finally it came 00:47:38.710 --> 00:47:40.869 out, you know, from us saying yes to it, to it 00:47:40.869 --> 00:47:45.090 actually happening. But yeah, dude, it's Jeremy 00:47:45.090 --> 00:47:48.190 and AJ's dad said something years ago. He said, 00:47:48.190 --> 00:47:51.909 my worst enemy is the smoke on the water of our 00:47:51.909 --> 00:47:55.289 generation. And it's crazy because it really 00:47:55.289 --> 00:47:57.809 kind of is. It's the riff. It's the song. It's 00:47:57.809 --> 00:48:00.039 the sentiment. It's. Everything all rolled into 00:48:00.039 --> 00:48:02.820 one. And we've honestly, we've been so blessed 00:48:02.820 --> 00:48:05.320 to have a song like that. And it has opened so 00:48:05.320 --> 00:48:08.980 many doors for us. And it's really opened a lot 00:48:08.980 --> 00:48:11.199 of people's ears to the rest of the music that 00:48:11.199 --> 00:48:13.300 has been written. You know, it's not, they open 00:48:13.300 --> 00:48:15.380 the door to Enemy and they go, wow, you got a 00:48:15.380 --> 00:48:17.599 whole catalog of stuff. Let me dive into all 00:48:17.599 --> 00:48:20.760 this. And so we're very fortunate to have something 00:48:20.760 --> 00:48:24.679 like that. You know, man, I'm twisted on what 00:48:24.679 --> 00:48:26.880 song should be last. But I'm going to go with 00:48:26.880 --> 00:48:29.159 my heart. And if I had to write a set list right 00:48:29.159 --> 00:48:32.840 now, the last song on this mixtape, I really 00:48:32.840 --> 00:48:36.139 feel I'm bummed that I didn't even think to put 00:48:36.139 --> 00:48:39.739 over my head on the mixtape because it's a single 00:48:39.739 --> 00:48:43.099 and it's my favorite song to play live by far 00:48:43.099 --> 00:48:46.559 because the bass playing on it is it's great. 00:48:46.679 --> 00:48:48.880 You know, it's fun to play for me. It's got some 00:48:48.880 --> 00:48:51.239 cool parts in there that I really am proud of. 00:48:52.059 --> 00:48:55.250 But. To close this out, I feel like a closer 00:48:55.250 --> 00:48:57.750 song might be cool if it was A Place in the Sun. 00:48:58.309 --> 00:49:02.110 The title track off of A Place in the Sun. It's 00:49:02.110 --> 00:49:04.210 the last song on the album and it really has 00:49:04.210 --> 00:49:06.489 a cool feeling to it. So I'm going to go with 00:49:06.489 --> 00:49:10.650 that. Wow. Very cool. I love it. I absolutely 00:49:10.650 --> 00:49:14.230 love it. You like how I open the mixtape with 00:49:14.230 --> 00:49:15.889 the bass and drum and I'm closing it with bass 00:49:15.889 --> 00:49:19.460 and drum? Yeah. See, there's a definite, and 00:49:19.460 --> 00:49:21.360 then you know what? The beauty, if this was an 00:49:21.360 --> 00:49:24.440 actual cassette, it would just click back over 00:49:24.440 --> 00:49:26.860 to side A and go right back into that My World 00:49:26.860 --> 00:49:30.280 bass line. Yeah, dude. Well, there you have it, 00:49:30.280 --> 00:49:34.340 Mixtapers. Side B consists of No Big Thing, Miserable, 00:49:34.500 --> 00:49:38.380 Addicted, Mouth Shut, Too Fast for a U -Turn, 00:49:38.679 --> 00:49:42.980 4, Happy in the Meantime Remix, Lipstick and 00:49:42.980 --> 00:49:46.250 Bruises, My Own Worst Enemy. and a place in the 00:49:46.250 --> 00:49:49.949 sun head over to myweeklymixtape .com right now 00:49:49.949 --> 00:49:53.170 and you could hear the entire playlist that kevin 00:49:53.170 --> 00:49:57.079 and i just discussed tonight Kevin, I can't thank 00:49:57.079 --> 00:49:59.199 you enough for joining me tonight and putting 00:49:59.199 --> 00:50:02.079 together this mix. I hope Lit fans take something 00:50:02.079 --> 00:50:04.699 away from this. And it's been an absolute pleasure. 00:50:04.860 --> 00:50:06.699 I can't wait for the next time the band comes 00:50:06.699 --> 00:50:09.139 through New Jersey. I can't wait to see you guys 00:50:09.139 --> 00:50:10.980 live again. My nine -year -old will be there 00:50:10.980 --> 00:50:13.460 singing Kicked Off the Plane at the top of her 00:50:13.460 --> 00:50:15.860 lungs along with me and everybody else. Lucky 00:50:15.860 --> 00:50:17.480 for her, we play it first so you can get her 00:50:17.480 --> 00:50:21.519 to bed. Thank you so much for the music. Thank 00:50:21.519 --> 00:50:23.500 you so much for the memories that the music has 00:50:23.500 --> 00:50:25.820 brought me. And most importantly, thank you so 00:50:25.820 --> 00:50:28.300 much for being a guest tonight on My Weekly Mixtape. 00:50:28.599 --> 00:50:31.179 Dude, I love this show, man. It's a great concept 00:50:31.179 --> 00:50:33.300 and it was a lot of fun. Thank you for having 00:50:33.300 --> 00:50:36.219 me. You can find My Weekly Mixtape on Facebook, 00:50:36.460 --> 00:50:39.820 Twitter. Instagram, and Tik TOK at my weekly 00:50:39.820 --> 00:50:42.739 mixtape. 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