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Hey, this is Eric Senech from the Van Halen News

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Desk and host of the Booked on Rock podcast,

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and you are listening to one of my favorite podcasts

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of all time, My Weekly Mixtape with Brian Colburn.

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Let's mix it up. Welcome to My Weekly Mixtape,

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a podcast that takes the classic mixtape approach

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to building a modern playlist. I'm your host,

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Brian Colburn. Joining me tonight for the first

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time are two guests and a slightly revised format

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to accommodate the change. First up is Eric Senech

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from the Van Halen News Desk, as well as the

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host of the Booked on Rock podcast. Eric, thank

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you so much for joining me today, man. Brian,

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this is an honor. I told you, I love your show.

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Love it. So this is so great to be on. I can't

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get enough of your podcast, man. I'm telling

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you. So it's great to be here, man. Thanks. Well,

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I appreciate you being here and I'm excited to

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talk some Van Halen with you tonight. And joining

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the two of us tonight is Patreon mixtaper Cactus

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Pete, who I have mentioned his name a ton of

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times since the show launched. So Pete, thank

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you so much for joining the show tonight, man.

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Thanks for having me on. Like Eric said, it's

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an honor to be here. Ready to go. This will be

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a lot of fun. He's got the radio name, Brian.

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Cactus Pete. I know. Old school radio. Yeah,

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I can touch on that. In broadcast school, we

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had to pick a name, and we were encouraged to

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do so back then. So I chose, I did a little copy

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and paste, and I chose Eddie Anthony was my on

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-air name that I used for three years on radio.

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And it made it a lot of fun. That's hilarious

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because my first radio name was Eric Anderson.

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And then I was Fletch. I worked at WCCC in Hartford.

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Ah, Howard. Yeah, the old home of Howard Stern.

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And they said, what are your favorite TV? This

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is the day before I'm going on the air. And I

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mentioned Fletch. That's it. You're Fletch. Okay.

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And this is tomorrow I'm going on the air with

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this. Yeah, I love the radio names. Should we

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refer to you tonight as Fletch then, moving forward?

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Hey, by all means. Greatest comedy movie ever.

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Chevy Chase. Absolutely love it. Well, with every

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first time guest tonight, I get to ask my opening

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question twice. So Eric, we'll start with you.

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What does the word mixtape mean to you? Oh, man.

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You know, it takes me back to really two important

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periods of my life. First is high school. And

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there were two mixtapes that I had that I always

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listened to. My older brother had a vinyl record

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player where you could record. what was on vinyl

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onto cassette. And then I would take that cassette

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and I would go for rides around town and listen

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to it nonstop. And my older brother, my oldest

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brother, I should say, had a ton of vinyl. And

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he had, you know, The Dark Side of the Moon,

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Zeppelin, you name it, one, two, three, four,

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right up through the outdoor. I think he had

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presents too. He had Genesis Three Sides Live

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in there, I remember. So I would pluck out all

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these songs that I loved that I would hear on

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the radio and I would record them from vinyl

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onto cassette. And they sounded just as good

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as if you're listening straight off vinyl. Sharp,

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you know. So anyway, I listened to those two

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tapes so much to the point where, as I'm sure

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you guys know, whenever you hear a certain song

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nowadays, you're waiting for the next song to

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be what was on your mixtape, you know? Oh, yeah.

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And so there was that. And then when I was in...

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college and I was interning at a radio station,

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there was CDs all over the place where you could

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just, anything you wanted was there. And I used

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to go into the production room and just put in

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all of my favorite songs. And I had, I remember

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CSNY, Southern Cross, and I would play that cassette

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over and over and over again. So mixtapes, a

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lost art. That it was something I talk about

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a lot on this show. Pete, same question to you.

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A lot of what Eric said to it. Takes me back

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specifically more to my junior high days to get

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the Memrix tape and put that in the old Magnavox

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cassette player. And whether or not you were

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waiting for something to come on on the radio,

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which was a real pain. And I learned later why

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you had to wait so long. After I waited for Bobby

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McFerrin's Don't Worry, Be Happy for an hour

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and a half before I heard it. I sat there with

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my finger on the record button when he said,

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you play it soon. But yeah, it was making music

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for friends. Sometimes even throwing in something

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maybe that they didn't expect, something new.

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Like if you'd say set a drift on Memory Bliss,

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well, let's throw in something else. Let's throw

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in Paper Doll because maybe they're not familiar

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with that. Maybe that'll get them to become more

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interested in PM Dawn or whatever the case may

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be. And then you could go on swings. You could

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go from more of a heavy rocker down to more of

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a poppy song down to a ballad and then pick it

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up again. But a musical roller coaster is what

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it always seemed like. And how much could you

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fit on that tape was always the... There's always

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a question. Oh, yes. Hey, Pete, did you ever

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have where you had to take a song because it

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wouldn't fit and you'd have to like cut it down

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and shorten the song? Because I had to do that

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with ACDCs. It's a long way to the top. I had

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to literally cut out that great bagpipe ending

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and I was like, this sucks, but I can't fit it

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on sidewalk. Give me a minute. Yeah, or you'd

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look for something shorter. What I always ended

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up doing when a song ended and I knew I only

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had a minute or so left on the side, I had this

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collection of what I called short songs. So it

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was stuff like S .O .D., The Ballad of Jimi Hendrix,

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all by the Descendants, all songs that were anywhere

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from 30 seconds to two seconds. And no matter

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what kind of mixtape I made, whether it was.

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a bunch of slow songs for a girlfriend or a bunch

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of heavy stuff or a bunch of hip hop. These five

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or six songs would always end every side. And

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sometimes I would just go in a rotation just

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to fill the space. It's like an art form though.

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It really is, man. It's so, it's just a lost

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art. You know, a lot of the younger people that

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are listening right now, they, they missed out.

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You know, they really did. Mixtapes were just

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so fun. Well, hopefully tonight we're going to

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turn some people on to some cool new music because

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tonight we are talking about the legendary Van

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Halen. I really hope we're not turning anybody

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on to Van Halen tonight. But regardless, we're

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celebrating the legendary Van Halen tonight.

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And Eric, I'd like to start by asking you how

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you got involved with the Van Halen News Desk.

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Oh, the News Desk. Yeah, I was working in radio.

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This is probably six, seven years ago. And I

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was working at a radio station in Fairfield County,

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Connecticut, and they had a new website and they

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invited all the jocks to write blogs. And so

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I would write a lot of different articles on

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different things. And every now and then I would

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do a Van Halen article. That was funny because

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the program director says, don't write about

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Van Halen every time. I said, don't worry, I

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won't. He knew. But I would write about Van Halen

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and then I would share those articles on a website,

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which Pete may know about. VH links, which is

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where all the fans would go, right? He'd go there

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and people just post various things, whatever

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they feel like they're in the mood to post. And,

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um, I would post my articles there and people

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would read them and they seem to enjoy them.

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And all of a sudden on the blue, I get a message

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from Jeff Hausman from the Van Halen news desk.

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And he said, Hey, you know, I see your articles,

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man. They're cool. Would you like to write for

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us? And, uh, I said, let me think about it. Yes.

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And that was it, you know? And then, From there,

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in the beginning, I would submit an article or

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two here and there. And then I started helping

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just to put content up, you know, on an almost

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daily basis, which to this day we're doing. So

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it became one of those things where I would help

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Jeff to, and still do, scour the internet, look

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for, so we sign up for subscription sites that

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send us anything that's on the web related to

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Van Halen. So we check it daily and it's just

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become a part of my life. You know, I get back

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from my... daytime job and it's like okay what

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do we got what can we find on van halen and you

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know and when eddie passed it was kind of like

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you know what's going to happen now but you know

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the news keeps coming in there's always stuff

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and we try to find fun things it doesn't have

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to be newsworthy it's it's it could be just fun

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videos that somebody makes or whatever so yeah

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i've been doing it for about six seven years

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how does working with the van halen news desk

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impact your song selection tonight Well, interesting

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question, Brian, because, yeah, there are songs

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that, you know, I think of Van Halen one and

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it's just it's the definitive classic Van Halen

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album that everybody should listen to. Right.

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But there are songs on there that you just you

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get burned out on, especially working your radio.

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So running with the devil and talk about love

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and these bonafide classics that sometimes, you

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know, they might get pushed down my list only

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because it's songs like and I'm going to mention

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a few tonight that aren't on the radio. that

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I love more so just because they weren't on the

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radio a lot. However, there's songs like Dance

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of the Night Away, which I can't get enough of.

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You know, I've heard it a million times, but

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yet I have not burned down on it. But working

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for the Van Halen News Desk, I think it's a similar

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thing as being in radio. But to add to that,

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though, working for the News Desk has given me

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a whole slew of new information behind these

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songs, behind the albums, behind the band members.

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And suddenly you listen to these songs in a whole

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different light because you learn things. You

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get information from the inside source, people

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who were there, how a song was recorded, what

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was the original title. Dave had different lyrics

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to start. He changed them. Or just throwing one

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out there, like Hoffer Teacher. Initially, Eddie

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had recorded where he was doing the bass and

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guitar intro at the same time, kind of like what

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he and Wolfie did on the song Chinatown from

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2012. It's a different kind of truth, right?

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And the producer, Ted Templeman, he said, well.

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It's going to be hard to do live, you know? So

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Eddie said, oh, okay. So then now you just hear

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what we hear, right? And you wonder if that stuff's

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in the vaults. But, you know, all those little

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stories, you know, they just, and the whole process

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of the Fair Warning album from 1981 is just fascinating

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because that's really Eddie's high point as an

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artist. So, yeah, it definitely opens it up to

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a whole new world when you listen to these songs.

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Well, Pete, you and I have been messaging back

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and forth over months over this episode in Van

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Halen. And as a longtime fan, what are you looking

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to bring to the discussion tonight in terms of

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song selection? Kind of like what Eric said,

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I've heard Ain't Talking About Love. I've heard

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it a million times. Some of the same songs, Panama

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and Jump, they're excellent, but everybody and

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their mother knows those. I always tend to look

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for a little more, not a deeper cut per se, but

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a little more variety than that to show someone

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that may not be as familiar with the deeper cuts

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of the catalog and whatnot. Like, hey, try this

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on, see what you think of this. Maybe they might

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download the album. Now we say download the album

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instead of go out and buy the cassette tape or

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whatnot for the first time. And they'll hear

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a whole bunch of songs that they've really never

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heard before that maybe they like and can give

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to their kids or something to share with their

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children. Kind of keep growing the fan base.

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This is not a singles band. Not at all. That's

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for sure. There's more to Van Halen than singles.

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And then in my humble opinion, I don't feel there

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are many quote unquote deep cuts for Van Halen.

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If you think about their run between Van Halen

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one through balance. Because to me, I always

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listen to them as complete albums. So there's

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no song that you're going to pull from any one

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of those that I'm going to go, wow, that's a

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deeper cut. But to the radio fans that know the

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hits, it might be considered that way. In my

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world, the deeper cuts come from 1998's Van Halen

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3 with Gary Cherone on vocals. And maybe to some

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extent, 2012's a different kind of truth just

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because. They're kind of outside of the band's

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main catalog just in time past. But my goal for

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tonight is to hopefully strike a hem balance

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between the David Lee Roth and Sammy Hagar years

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and hopefully throw in a few fun surprises for

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the Van Halen fans that are tuning in. It's interesting.

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Deep cut. What is a deep cut? right because you're

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so familiar with the songs like you say if you

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listen to the albums but you know deep cut is

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i guess technically it's it wasn't released as

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a single it wasn't released as a promotional

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type of device and so it was just left for those

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who bought the album to listen to so there's

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a that's interesting because van halen one is

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like greatest hits right but some of those songs

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weren't technically released as singles but yet

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we hear them all the time exactly Well, let's

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get down to business tonight. As I mentioned

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at the top of the show, Eric, Pete, and I will

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be creating the ultimate Van Halen mixtape and

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we'll still use the old cassette deck approach.

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Only this time there's a slight twist. Since

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this is the first time I've had two guests on

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the show, this episode will have a slightly different

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rotation versus the usual back and forth discussion.

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Pete's going to begin side A with his first song

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choice, followed by Eric, and then by myself.

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And we'll rinse, lather, and repeat that cycle

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four times until we've mapped out 12 songs for

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side A. Dirty dozen, if you will. We'll then

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give our mixtape a proverbial flip, and we'll

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map out side B. Only this time, Eric will kick

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things off, followed by myself. and then Pete

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for four more round robins. So if you consider

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a regular My Weekly Mixtape episode to be a 90

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-minute cassette, let's just consider today a

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120. Our overall goal for this episode is to

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craft the best Van Halen mixtape possible through

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our 24 song choices. At the end of the show,

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you can take our conversation to the next level

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by visiting the episode page at myweeklymixtape

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.com to give our final mixtape a listen via the

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embedded playlist. And finally, if you like what

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you're hearing on the show, you can help me out

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by either telling a friend, leaving the show

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a five -star review wherever you're tuning in,

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or by becoming a Patreon mixtaper at patreon

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.com forward slash myweeklymixtape. And a few

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of the Patreon mixtapers chimed in with the songs

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they would use to kick off their Van Halen mix.

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And I want to give a quick shout out to a few

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of those. David Lee Smith chimed in with I'm

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the One. Sean Faust chimed in with two different

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options, 1984 to set a huge mood and dance the

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night away to get the party started. Ben from

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the Too Vague podcast chimed in saying that first,

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my question was actually rhetorical. And then

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he asked himself, how could I not start with

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Hot for Teacher? I just can't. Hashtag, I don't

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feel tardy. Seeker agrees with Ben saying that

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if Hot for Teacher doesn't start side A and a

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one -two punch of Eruption and You Really Got

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Me starts side B, then we're doing it all wrong.

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And finally, brand new Patreon mixtaper Philip

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Bergman chimed in saying he would start with

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Eruption. Although not necessarily leading into

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You Really Got Me, because in his opinion, it's

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a perfect simmering up to a full boil to start

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things off. And I'd like to take this moment

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to welcome Philip to the Patreon Mixtaper family,

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and I look forward to our musical discussions

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in the forum. So Pete, as the official representative

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of the Patreon Mixtapers for this episode, I'm

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officially pressing the record button on our

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mixtape, and I'm giving you the pleasure. or

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stress, depending on how you want to look at

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it, to kick things off tonight. So why don't

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you dive into the song you're choosing to kick

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off side A? This one was stress. I had probably

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three songs in my mind that could kick this thing

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off. Do you want to appease the masses? Or do

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you kind of want to go your own route and say,

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I know what this probably should be, but I'm

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going to go my own way and pick something a little

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different. After trying to go through these three

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songs back and forth, you just have to go and

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start with everything house on fire. We're going

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to start with eruption to get things started.

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Can't go wrong, man. In fact, that's what kicks

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off the best of both worlds, best of double CD

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from 2004, because it sets the tone. It's a perfect

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opener. And it's basically saying, as we get

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into these songs, just be reminded. There's one

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guy, there's one guy that you have to look to.

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And that's Eddie in eruption and a song that

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came by accident. Ted Templeman just overheard

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Eddie playing it. He said, what is that? And

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he said, well, I'm just do this to warm up before

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each show. He goes, well, warm up, keep playing,

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hit record, roll tape. And that's what you hear.

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I mean, and Eddie was like, yeah, I guess it's

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okay. Didn't think anything of it. Didn't even

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think that's. The mindset that he always had.

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It's no big deal. Just a punk kid who plays guitar

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is what he said. Widely considered to be the

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greatest guitar solo of all time. And I would

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never argue anyone that said that to me. According

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to Eddie, there's actually a, and I'm going to

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use quote marks to say this, a mistake at the

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top of the song, which to me just points to the

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beauty in the subjectivity of the music that

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we listen to. Because. Here is Eddie thinking

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that he could have played it better. And I'm

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sitting here thinking there's no other human

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on earth that can ever play this music like he

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did. So to me, it is the greatest hard rock solo

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of all time. Guys, I've spoken with guitarists,

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guitar experts, guys who wrote for Guitar World,

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and they can't find the mistake that Eddie's

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saying. They cannot find it. Wherever it is,

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we don't know where. unbelievable well eric we

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are going to you now to follow that up and now

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like new patreon mixtaper phillips said you could

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go with you really got me or you've got this

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kind of wide open slate to go wherever you want

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with it right you know and i broke down this

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is so difficult just to pair this down but i

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broke it down into three different categories

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for me so there's personal favorites There's

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the lost, the last, or the least mentioned cuts.

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And there's the must -have hits or classics,

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right? Songs that aren't necessarily singles,

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but just classics. So we've got Eruption taken

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off the list. So what do we follow Eruption with?

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Boy, well, I think because we start with that,

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I just believe that it makes perfect sense then

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to follow with You Really Got Me. It's one of

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those songs, I don't skip over it when it's on,

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but it's among those songs you've heard a lot.

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And it's kind of lost its effect, but still just

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an amazing song. And a song, one of many King

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songs that they played in the club days. And

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for some reason, that particular one just really

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stood out. And Ted Templeman wanted that to be

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a single. And the reason was because he had previously

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produced Montrose. The debut Montrose album,

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which, by the way, had Sammy Higg on vocals.

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That album is now considered one of the most

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influential albums in hard rock history, right?

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No hit singles. And it bummed Ted Templeman out.

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He just thought that was going to be the album.

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So he learned his lesson, and he says, let's

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get a bonafide hit. Well, Eddie never liked covers.

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He always said, you know, it's already halfway

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there because it was already a hit. I want to

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write my own stuff. It became the perfect opener

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for the band. It opened the door to what we hear

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on the rest of the album. And there was a band

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called Angel that was also playing You Really

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Got Me. And one of the members of the band had

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been chatting with Eddie. And Eddie mentioned

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in passing, yeah, we recorded You Really Got

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Me. We're going to release it as a single. Eddie

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was, he just didn't think anything of it. So

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this band, Angel. they race into the studio,

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they record their version, and they're going

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to get that single out before Van Halen. Well,

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somehow Ted Templeman finds out, and he's like,

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let's get this song out now. So they got it out

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before Angel, and the rest is history. Who knows?

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I've never heard Angel's version, but I don't

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think we need to. No. There's only two versions

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to listen to, The Kinks and Van Halen. It's a

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perfect follow -up. There's so much energy to

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that. It's, I think, one of those songs where,

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You know, the remake is better than the original.

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One of those two where you play it for your parents

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and at the time we're like, why did they ruin

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this song? Well, it is no surprise that I am

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a huge fan of cover songs. But when you're a

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band that can take a song that is already widely

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established and widely known and elevate it.

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In a way where they're putting their musical

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stamp on the song, but also truly respecting

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the original. It's a tough balance to find. And

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it's something that Van Halen always seemed to

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do through all the cover songs that they chose.

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They always found a way to truly make it a Van

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Halen song first and foremost with a wink, wink,

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nudge, nudge to the original. Sometimes going

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as far as. Like the start of Van Halen 2, You're

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No Good, where the riff is completely written

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based off of Ted Templeman's humming the opening

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of the song to Eddie and Eddie then reinterpreting

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this riff in a jam. To me, that's really far

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removed from the Linda Ronstadt version that

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was a bigger hit a couple of years earlier and

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then obviously very far away from the original

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by Betty Everett. So I'm not going to follow

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it up with a cover. But now I'm in this weird

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predicament for song three already because I

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have this moment in the episode where I can either

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send us down a chronological road or I could

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skew us off into outer space. And I think I'm

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going to go with the latter. And we're going

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to jump, no pun intended, from 1978 all the way

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to 1991. with a song that hit me right in the

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midst of eighth grade and high school. And the

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reason I'm choosing this song, Pete, you went

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with Eruption, a song that kind of invented and

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introduced a new style of guitar playing to the

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world. And I want to follow it up with something

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as my first piece, something with Eddie in it,

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and then also bring Sammy into this conversation,

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but also... Do something innovative. And I'll

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be honest, in 1991, I was only 13 or 14 years

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old, so I didn't have many years of experience

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in me. But I listened to enough music to know

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that nobody was playing electric guitar with

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a power drill. And here comes Eddie Van Halen

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in the opening to For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge.

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And I'm going to go with Pound Cake. It's one

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of the most innovative guitarists ever, finding

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new ways to innovate. guitar playing and raise

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the bar even for himself. And let's just be honest

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here. If the power drill opening led to a sub

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par Van Halen track, it might just be known as

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that power drill part of that song, as opposed

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to what it is. A really good Van Halen song.

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And it's an album opener. Van Halen always nails

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the album opening and I'm a sucker for album

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opening track. So my first contribution tonight,

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pound cake. From Four Unlawful Carnal Knowledge.

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That's a great pick. Great pick. I agree. This

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song, the whole album I find, because I've always

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said OU812 is my favorite Sammy era album, but

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I find myself going back to Four Unlawful Carnal

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Knowledge more so now than ever. And Pound Cake

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is just massive sounding. Don't forget Alex,

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right with that Bonham -esque drum beat. Yeah.

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But yeah, you're right with the drill. Andy Johns,

00:24:51.690 --> 00:24:54.029
who produced the album, he just said Eddie was,

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he just, the drill was there in the studio. And

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Eddie's just like, oh, yeah, let's try this.

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You know, again, you know, Eddie's just brilliant.

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But by that time, you would think that he had

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pretty much, you know, the well was dry in terms

00:25:07.529 --> 00:25:10.609
of innovative things or things that really kind

00:25:10.609 --> 00:25:12.849
of blow your mind. Because by this time now,

00:25:12.930 --> 00:25:15.650
because as we get to the Sammy years, and even

00:25:15.650 --> 00:25:18.609
as we get like 1984, Eddie's more focused now

00:25:18.609 --> 00:25:22.019
on becoming a songwriter. He would instead of,

00:25:22.019 --> 00:25:23.759
you know, doing a lot of the stuff that just,

00:25:23.819 --> 00:25:26.400
you know, could blow people's minds. And even

00:25:26.400 --> 00:25:30.059
as early as far back as 80, 81, he was telling

00:25:30.059 --> 00:25:33.099
a journalist, you know, he's like, I don't know

00:25:33.099 --> 00:25:35.779
how many more of these, you know, eruptions or

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Spanish flies or, you know, all these things

00:25:39.500 --> 00:25:42.220
that I'm doing. These crazy things. I don't know

00:25:42.220 --> 00:25:44.319
how many more I have left in me, you know, so

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I don't know what's going to happen. People may

00:25:46.579 --> 00:25:49.079
like it, may not like it, but it is what it is.

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But then we get to 1991 and there it is. You

00:25:50.900 --> 00:25:52.579
know, he's got something he's doing again and

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it's just perfect. And I love when you turn it

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up. I'm sure you know, Ryan, when you turn it

00:25:56.180 --> 00:25:57.640
up real loud in the beginning, you can hear him

00:25:57.640 --> 00:26:01.539
plug in. And you're waiting for it, waiting for

00:26:01.539 --> 00:26:04.480
it. You know, you just, the adrenaline, you just

00:26:04.480 --> 00:26:07.539
feel it. Goosebumps. Yeah. It almost sounds like

00:26:07.539 --> 00:26:10.519
they say, you ready? Okay, let's do it. but a

00:26:10.519 --> 00:26:12.539
little more drawn out than that. I think you

00:26:12.539 --> 00:26:15.240
can kind of hear that. Yeah. Even the drill was

00:26:15.240 --> 00:26:17.700
painted and striped. That was great too. I think

00:26:17.700 --> 00:26:20.920
what were the, on the, was it the 91 MTV music

00:26:20.920 --> 00:26:23.220
video award? They were on some award show and

00:26:23.220 --> 00:26:24.880
you had the drill out there and put a Hawaiian

00:26:24.880 --> 00:26:26.980
shirt on or something. It was just spectacular.

00:26:27.539 --> 00:26:30.980
A little bit of a fun fact. After high school,

00:26:31.059 --> 00:26:34.920
I had to get new license plates and I couldn't

00:26:34.920 --> 00:26:38.359
think of what to put on that car. And I came

00:26:38.359 --> 00:26:41.380
up with, Looking through the cupboard one day

00:26:41.380 --> 00:26:45.720
and I saw some flour in there and it said one

00:26:45.720 --> 00:26:49.880
pound of flour, one LB of flour. And I thought

00:26:49.880 --> 00:26:52.420
to myself, I can't fit pound cake, but I could

00:26:52.420 --> 00:26:56.440
fit LB cake on my license plate. So I had LB

00:26:56.440 --> 00:26:58.500
cake license plates throughout college years.

00:26:59.059 --> 00:27:01.119
It's like it comes in the pound cake. I forget

00:27:01.119 --> 00:27:03.079
legally. Did you have to turn it? Do you still

00:27:03.079 --> 00:27:04.700
have it? Or did they make you turn it in when

00:27:04.700 --> 00:27:06.740
you get a new car? No, I still, I actually, I

00:27:06.740 --> 00:27:09.299
still have them packed away. I love it. I love

00:27:09.299 --> 00:27:11.809
it. Yeah. All right, Pete, we're back to you

00:27:11.809 --> 00:27:15.650
for track four. Okay. So you went with that and

00:27:15.650 --> 00:27:18.289
it is difficult. What do you do? Do you keep

00:27:18.289 --> 00:27:22.930
swinging with, you know, now Sammy to Dave and

00:27:22.930 --> 00:27:26.410
whatnot. One of the things that really got me

00:27:26.410 --> 00:27:30.049
into Van Halen more so than say other bands that

00:27:30.049 --> 00:27:31.910
I am an older brother. That's how I got into

00:27:31.910 --> 00:27:34.009
these guys. That's all I can't listen to. It

00:27:34.009 --> 00:27:36.230
was just, I knew more Van Halen songs. I think

00:27:36.230 --> 00:27:38.230
when I was five or six years old and I did any

00:27:38.230 --> 00:27:40.490
nursery rhymes whatsoever. Like here, I can give

00:27:40.490 --> 00:27:42.250
you the 5150 album, but I can't tell you about

00:27:42.250 --> 00:27:45.950
Mother Goose. So I just always like the backing

00:27:45.950 --> 00:27:49.170
vocals. It seems like Van Halen concentrated

00:27:49.170 --> 00:27:53.190
on that or they shined in that area more so than

00:27:53.190 --> 00:27:55.490
other bands. I don't know. Maybe then the ones

00:27:55.490 --> 00:27:58.369
my brother is too. Who knows? That being said,

00:27:58.529 --> 00:28:02.609
going back to my radio days, I'm going to bring

00:28:02.609 --> 00:28:06.009
this one in because I just really like. the backing

00:28:06.009 --> 00:28:09.049
sound in this. And to go up with Pound Cake,

00:28:09.150 --> 00:28:11.710
because to me, Pound Cake sounds very, like Eric

00:28:11.710 --> 00:28:13.690
said, with the drums and how many microphones

00:28:13.690 --> 00:28:15.650
they used in recording that, because of what

00:28:15.650 --> 00:28:18.190
Andy John's helping with that. It sounded so

00:28:18.190 --> 00:28:21.670
deep and fat and heavy. Going back to my redo

00:28:21.670 --> 00:28:24.069
days, though, like I said, I was in the studio

00:28:24.069 --> 00:28:27.369
and I had to do some prod in the studio. And

00:28:27.369 --> 00:28:31.170
the PD came in and he said at the time, hey,

00:28:31.170 --> 00:28:33.309
Eddie, I have something for you. No one else

00:28:33.309 --> 00:28:36.140
has this. We just got it. I'm going to give this

00:28:36.140 --> 00:28:39.920
to you, but you cannot play this anywhere but

00:28:39.920 --> 00:28:43.799
here. And he gave me a CD single and I have it.

00:28:44.380 --> 00:28:49.619
And it was called MeWise Magic. And I put that

00:28:49.619 --> 00:28:53.039
CD in and I cranked that thing so loud that on

00:28:53.039 --> 00:28:54.440
the other side of the studio, they came in and

00:28:54.440 --> 00:28:56.140
said, Eddie, I'm showing you that. That brought

00:28:56.140 --> 00:28:59.180
so broad into the air. I had that thing cranked.

00:28:59.319 --> 00:29:03.240
And when I heard it, it was like, wow, this.

00:29:03.839 --> 00:29:06.500
is what would be possible if you guys could just

00:29:06.500 --> 00:29:08.779
get your stuff straight. And I was just, I was

00:29:08.779 --> 00:29:11.079
blown away. I thought it was an excellent song.

00:29:11.240 --> 00:29:13.400
So to back up Pound Cake, I'm going to go with

00:29:13.400 --> 00:29:17.240
Mewi's Magic. Wow, what a song. Yeah, like you,

00:29:17.299 --> 00:29:20.759
Pete, I was working in radio in Hartford at WCCC,

00:29:20.799 --> 00:29:23.799
and I got to play that song when it debuted as

00:29:23.799 --> 00:29:26.200
a single. I was like, that's like a career highlight

00:29:26.200 --> 00:29:30.339
for me because I never got to experience the

00:29:30.339 --> 00:29:34.220
original Dave years, but you're so right. we

00:29:34.220 --> 00:29:37.640
could have gotten more of if dave was able to

00:29:37.640 --> 00:29:42.099
just keep it together well then you there everybody's

00:29:42.099 --> 00:29:44.440
got their opinion on that i mean they apparently

00:29:44.440 --> 00:29:46.680
never even thought about having him back in the

00:29:46.680 --> 00:29:49.660
band anyway it was one of those we already picked

00:29:49.660 --> 00:29:53.500
gary chiron but we need two new songs for this

00:29:53.500 --> 00:29:56.180
best of so we can promote it and get it sold

00:29:56.180 --> 00:29:58.599
to more people because obviously the longtime

00:29:58.599 --> 00:30:00.500
fans aren't just going to buy a best of with

00:30:00.500 --> 00:30:02.599
songs they already have So let's throw two new

00:30:02.599 --> 00:30:06.079
songs. Sammy said no, not going to do it. Eddie

00:30:06.079 --> 00:30:10.420
calls Dave. Dave says yes. But all along, they

00:30:10.420 --> 00:30:13.279
never planned on having Dave back. And that song

00:30:13.279 --> 00:30:15.740
in Can't Get the Stuff No More, you know, those

00:30:15.740 --> 00:30:18.940
are two great songs. Dark, not the early Dave

00:30:18.940 --> 00:30:21.700
era. Then again, I should say, the Dave era did

00:30:21.700 --> 00:30:23.440
have some dark stuff. You know, we go to Fair

00:30:23.440 --> 00:30:25.119
Warning and there's some dark stuff in there.

00:30:25.180 --> 00:30:28.619
But that's a good pick for an early on track.

00:30:28.759 --> 00:30:32.019
Track four, side A. I like it. Wasn't that supposedly

00:30:32.019 --> 00:30:36.099
all the while all this is going on back in the

00:30:36.099 --> 00:30:38.880
guest house, Mitch Malloy is supposedly sitting

00:30:38.880 --> 00:30:41.079
there watching all this stuff going on on MTV

00:30:41.079 --> 00:30:43.420
with everybody else saying, well, wait a minute,

00:30:43.500 --> 00:30:45.319
I'm not going to be a part of this. If it's so

00:30:45.319 --> 00:30:46.940
big, everybody's going to want Dave back in the

00:30:46.940 --> 00:30:50.240
band. Yes, you are correct. I don't think Mitch

00:30:50.240 --> 00:30:54.119
was there at Ed's place because I know Gary moved

00:30:54.119 --> 00:30:56.940
into Ed's place when they were recording three,

00:30:57.019 --> 00:31:02.549
but Malloy did say, He was watching because he

00:31:02.549 --> 00:31:04.930
had already got the gig, according to him. Eddie

00:31:04.930 --> 00:31:07.910
said, Mitch, you got the job. And Mitch was over

00:31:07.910 --> 00:31:13.029
the moon. And he's watching MTV. And he had heard

00:31:13.029 --> 00:31:16.289
some rumblings Dave might be there. And he watches

00:31:16.289 --> 00:31:19.849
this. And he's just thinking, this is over. I'm

00:31:19.849 --> 00:31:21.930
not going to do this. Because now you've got

00:31:21.930 --> 00:31:25.029
Dave up there. The crowd's going nuts. Now you

00:31:25.029 --> 00:31:26.750
want me to go out there and be the next singer?

00:31:27.009 --> 00:31:31.440
Hell no. And he called Eddie. and said, Ed, I'm

00:31:31.440 --> 00:31:34.000
sorry, man, but I got to decline the offer. You

00:31:34.000 --> 00:31:37.160
should just get Dave back. And Eddie got pissed

00:31:37.160 --> 00:31:41.319
off. What the fuck do you mean I could bring

00:31:41.319 --> 00:31:42.940
Dave back? Do you know what I went through with

00:31:42.940 --> 00:31:45.440
that guy? And Mitch was like, Ed, I'm sorry,

00:31:45.539 --> 00:31:47.160
man. I don't mean to piss you off. It's just

00:31:47.160 --> 00:31:49.680
that, you know, I saw what just happened up there,

00:31:49.740 --> 00:31:53.619
man. People went nuts. And I think he made up

00:31:53.619 --> 00:31:55.740
with that in later years. I think they were cool

00:31:55.740 --> 00:31:57.640
in later years. But, you know, Eddie did not

00:31:57.640 --> 00:32:01.279
want to bring Dave back. But yeah, Pete, you're

00:32:01.279 --> 00:32:03.480
right, man. That was it. Mitch Malloy. I don't

00:32:03.480 --> 00:32:05.440
think I would have been happy with Mitch Malloy

00:32:05.440 --> 00:32:07.740
as the singer. I think he was a little too clean,

00:32:07.799 --> 00:32:10.680
a little too, I don't know, a little too professional.

00:32:10.700 --> 00:32:13.539
I don't know. Sammy and Dave have their own unique

00:32:13.539 --> 00:32:15.660
sound, their voices. I mean, they're just so

00:32:15.660 --> 00:32:18.059
identifiable that I don't know if it would have

00:32:18.059 --> 00:32:20.220
worked. Yeah. We got a taste of it with that

00:32:20.220 --> 00:32:22.339
single, which is interesting. You could go on

00:32:22.339 --> 00:32:24.079
a really deep cut there if you would call it

00:32:24.079 --> 00:32:26.400
that. You're talking about the one with Mitch?

00:32:26.890 --> 00:32:29.289
Yeah, the same music that they used the last

00:32:29.289 --> 00:32:32.450
minute cut from was at the three album. They

00:32:32.450 --> 00:32:34.349
cut the song and put Josephine on there instead,

00:32:34.490 --> 00:32:37.109
I think. It was supposed to be That's Why I Love

00:32:37.109 --> 00:32:39.190
You with Gary. Yes, you're right. You're right.

00:32:39.250 --> 00:32:41.549
It's the same music. And Mitch had different

00:32:41.549 --> 00:32:45.309
lyrics. Yeah. It's interesting to hear the same

00:32:45.309 --> 00:32:48.269
music and see an artist's interpretation of the

00:32:48.269 --> 00:32:50.730
same thing. Kind of like the different kind of

00:32:50.730 --> 00:32:52.849
truth. Kind of the same thing a little bit. But

00:32:52.849 --> 00:32:55.339
it's interesting. to hear the same band, different

00:32:55.339 --> 00:32:57.680
singer, different interpretation with lyrics.

00:32:57.960 --> 00:33:00.259
Yeah, they're out there on YouTube. People can

00:33:00.259 --> 00:33:02.680
hear them. If you just go to YouTube, type in

00:33:02.680 --> 00:33:04.660
Mitch Malloy Van Halen, you'll see. I can't recall

00:33:04.660 --> 00:33:06.700
the name of the song. It's the right time, it

00:33:06.700 --> 00:33:08.339
might be. Yeah, yeah, something like that. Yep.

00:33:08.720 --> 00:33:11.480
MeWise Magic is the first song with David Lee

00:33:11.480 --> 00:33:15.000
Roth back on mic after the Sammy Hagar years.

00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:19.869
And instead of getting that old school... Van

00:33:19.869 --> 00:33:23.269
Halen, David Lee Roth sound. To me, Me Wise Magic

00:33:23.269 --> 00:33:28.630
was always a blending of kind of the songwriter

00:33:28.630 --> 00:33:31.609
sound that came out during the Van Hagar years,

00:33:31.829 --> 00:33:36.269
as well as that charismatic sound that was very

00:33:36.269 --> 00:33:39.490
evident during the David Lee Roth years. To me,

00:33:39.490 --> 00:33:43.349
Dave's voice is still in perfect form on this

00:33:43.349 --> 00:33:46.089
track. This song was definitely in my bank of

00:33:46.089 --> 00:33:49.119
tunes to me because it has that. Perfect blend

00:33:49.119 --> 00:33:52.200
of the two eras musically that I think would

00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:55.259
make any Van Halen fan happy. But the thing that

00:33:55.259 --> 00:33:59.579
I most love about this track is Dave's lower

00:33:59.579 --> 00:34:03.339
register delivery during the verses. It's a side

00:34:03.339 --> 00:34:06.819
of David Lee Roth you don't get a lot of. He's

00:34:06.819 --> 00:34:11.880
very refined and very mellow during those verses.

00:34:11.980 --> 00:34:14.940
And then he does his vocal stuff during the chorus

00:34:14.940 --> 00:34:17.739
to really... Give it that old school feel. And

00:34:17.739 --> 00:34:19.980
I think that's a really different side of him.

00:34:20.139 --> 00:34:23.920
And I'm actually shocked that during the 2007

00:34:23.920 --> 00:34:28.119
to 2015 run of live shows that this song was

00:34:28.119 --> 00:34:31.139
never explored because Dave was starting to have

00:34:31.139 --> 00:34:34.260
a little bit of trouble with the higher end towards

00:34:34.260 --> 00:34:37.760
those later ends of those tours. To me, this

00:34:37.760 --> 00:34:41.090
would have been kind of a. mid -set palate cleanser

00:34:41.090 --> 00:34:43.829
for him to be able to rest his vocal cords but

00:34:43.829 --> 00:34:46.510
still have a really cool song i'm actually shocked

00:34:46.510 --> 00:34:49.670
this was never played live yeah never played

00:34:49.670 --> 00:34:52.750
live and dave did struggle through that recording

00:34:52.750 --> 00:34:56.230
eddie and alex said they gave him credit this

00:34:56.230 --> 00:34:59.389
is after the falling out from the mtv awards

00:34:59.389 --> 00:35:02.590
but they said to dave's credit he soldiered through

00:35:02.590 --> 00:35:05.539
it because at that time dave had He'd abandoned

00:35:05.539 --> 00:35:08.320
the rock and roll route. He was just going to

00:35:08.320 --> 00:35:10.780
do the Vegas thing. And he, he did have a tour

00:35:10.780 --> 00:35:13.340
that year before, and he was playing some Van

00:35:13.340 --> 00:35:15.239
Halen songs. I think some of his solo songs,

00:35:15.340 --> 00:35:18.500
but also some covers of other tunes like show

00:35:18.500 --> 00:35:20.239
tunes. It was almost like it was a Vegas show,

00:35:20.239 --> 00:35:22.679
you know? So his delivery was different and he

00:35:22.679 --> 00:35:24.820
didn't have a lot of time to get his voice back

00:35:24.820 --> 00:35:26.719
in shape. So he pushed through that one. He worked

00:35:26.719 --> 00:35:29.539
hard for it. And he even brought in, he brought

00:35:29.539 --> 00:35:33.730
in. These fake trees, coconut trees and all that

00:35:33.730 --> 00:35:35.869
in the studio just to get in the right mood.

00:35:36.170 --> 00:35:39.909
And classic Dave. But if you listen to, Brian,

00:35:40.010 --> 00:35:42.449
interesting, have you ever listened to Dave's

00:35:42.449 --> 00:35:44.550
solo album, Your Filthy Little Mouth from 1994?

00:35:45.050 --> 00:35:47.849
Okay. So you see, that's when his voice changes.

00:35:48.030 --> 00:35:51.110
He's discovered a whole new range, but it sounds

00:35:51.110 --> 00:35:53.769
different. The train whistle scream is not there

00:35:53.769 --> 00:35:57.130
anymore. So he's got more of a screech, but he's

00:35:57.130 --> 00:36:01.159
hitting these higher notes. Good or bad, a lot

00:36:01.159 --> 00:36:03.800
of people were turned off by it, but his voice

00:36:03.800 --> 00:36:06.159
had changed. And so you're hearing a little bit

00:36:06.159 --> 00:36:08.500
of that in Mewi's magic, but you're also hearing

00:36:08.500 --> 00:36:10.719
in a song like Experience from your filthy little

00:36:10.719 --> 00:36:13.920
mouth, Dave's doing that, you know, hear what

00:36:13.920 --> 00:36:16.199
you're thinking, you know, the talk. And it's

00:36:16.199 --> 00:36:18.760
almost like a Leonard Cohen type thing, you know,

00:36:18.780 --> 00:36:22.300
vibe going there. And Henry Rollins was loving

00:36:22.300 --> 00:36:23.920
that too. I think he said, you know, Dave was

00:36:23.920 --> 00:36:26.440
just sounding cool, you know, he was like a poet.

00:36:27.280 --> 00:36:30.019
But he soldiered through that song. And the lyrics

00:36:30.019 --> 00:36:32.139
are cool too. Me wise magic. It's like having

00:36:32.139 --> 00:36:35.099
a belief in yourself. Well, Eric, now you get

00:36:35.099 --> 00:36:37.840
to follow it up with track five. Okay. See, I

00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:39.440
was killing time there because I don't know what

00:36:39.440 --> 00:36:41.099
I want to pick next. I don't know what to do

00:36:41.099 --> 00:36:42.820
here. So I figured I'd filibuster it. This episode's

00:36:42.820 --> 00:36:44.820
going to be three and a half hours long. It's

00:36:44.820 --> 00:36:48.059
all good. Okay. So you know what I think we need

00:36:48.059 --> 00:36:50.519
to do? This is, I think this calls for a good

00:36:50.519 --> 00:36:53.639
deep track, right? Something that... It wasn't

00:36:53.639 --> 00:36:55.380
on the radio, because we've got Eruption, You

00:36:55.380 --> 00:36:57.699
Really Got Me, Pound Cake, MeWiseMagic, all on

00:36:57.699 --> 00:37:01.460
the radio, Pound Cake all over the MTV. Video

00:37:01.460 --> 00:37:04.619
was all over the place at that time. So let's

00:37:04.619 --> 00:37:07.219
see. How about I'm going to dip into my personal

00:37:07.219 --> 00:37:11.159
favorites category here. I like MeWiseMagic because

00:37:11.159 --> 00:37:14.239
it's kind of taken the tempo down a bit, and

00:37:14.239 --> 00:37:16.699
we want to try to balance things out with, no

00:37:16.699 --> 00:37:20.320
pun intended, with Dave and Sammy, because I

00:37:20.320 --> 00:37:25.000
am going to go to... This is actually not on

00:37:25.000 --> 00:37:27.460
balance, but on the Japanese version. And it's

00:37:27.460 --> 00:37:30.739
a song called Crossing Over. Crossing Over is

00:37:30.739 --> 00:37:34.139
now available on the reissues. So on the reissue

00:37:34.139 --> 00:37:37.420
box set of all the Sammy years, you can now find

00:37:37.420 --> 00:37:40.260
it there. This is an interesting track because,

00:37:40.340 --> 00:37:43.719
well, two things. Lyrically, Sammy wrote the

00:37:43.719 --> 00:37:47.360
lyrics about their manager who had passed away,

00:37:47.639 --> 00:37:51.880
Ed Leffler. And he wrote the lyrics about that.

00:37:52.380 --> 00:37:55.760
And I believe, so this song was originally written

00:37:55.760 --> 00:37:58.659
by Eddie back in the mid 80s. And he had written

00:37:58.659 --> 00:38:01.099
about a friend of his that passed away, if I'm

00:38:01.099 --> 00:38:05.099
not mistaken. So what's cool about this is when

00:38:05.099 --> 00:38:07.860
you're listening to the drums, you are hearing

00:38:07.860 --> 00:38:10.719
the original drums that Alex played, the electric

00:38:10.719 --> 00:38:14.559
drums from 84, 85 in one channel. In the other

00:38:14.559 --> 00:38:17.380
channel, you're hearing Alex's all new drums

00:38:17.380 --> 00:38:22.590
from 1995. The guitar work on this, it is dark.

00:38:22.989 --> 00:38:26.409
This song would have been perfect as a replacement

00:38:26.409 --> 00:38:31.130
for, say, I'm really not a fan of Not Enough,

00:38:31.369 --> 00:38:34.550
I have to admit, although it was a hit, so I

00:38:34.550 --> 00:38:36.829
guess we would keep it on there. I think maybe

00:38:36.829 --> 00:38:40.710
replace Big Fat Money with this, Crossing Over.

00:38:41.110 --> 00:38:43.550
It wouldn't have been a hit, but it's a powerful

00:38:43.550 --> 00:38:45.670
song. It's something that should have been on

00:38:45.670 --> 00:38:48.949
that album. So there we go, crossing over. Now

00:38:48.949 --> 00:38:51.210
we're starting to bring the tempo down a bit.

00:38:51.389 --> 00:38:53.510
And correct me if I'm wrong, that was also the

00:38:53.510 --> 00:38:55.809
B -side to the Can't Stop Loving You single in

00:38:55.809 --> 00:38:58.230
the U .S., right? We still had access to it.

00:38:58.329 --> 00:39:00.489
Correct. You're right. Because a lot of times

00:39:00.489 --> 00:39:04.070
these bonus songs were only for Japan. And you'd

00:39:04.070 --> 00:39:06.329
get really pissed because a lot of times the

00:39:06.329 --> 00:39:09.409
bonus tracks were as good, if not better than...

00:39:09.739 --> 00:39:12.280
some of the tracks on the main album so for me

00:39:12.280 --> 00:39:14.139
this was one of those instances where i didn't

00:39:14.139 --> 00:39:17.360
feel cheated being a van halen fan in the u .s

00:39:17.360 --> 00:39:21.340
because at least we got to hear it uh as far

00:39:21.340 --> 00:39:23.139
as the replacement track eric you could have

00:39:23.139 --> 00:39:25.559
just said you don't need no stinking click yeah

00:39:25.559 --> 00:39:29.420
exactly or feeling could have been the one that

00:39:29.420 --> 00:39:31.860
they could have switched it out with right feeling

00:39:32.250 --> 00:39:34.750
It was the last track. That's okay. Yeah, I guess

00:39:34.750 --> 00:39:37.469
you could correct me if I'm wrong. I always heard

00:39:37.469 --> 00:39:39.730
that that was left off the album because then

00:39:39.730 --> 00:39:42.090
they thought it was just too dark because of

00:39:42.090 --> 00:39:44.789
the song Feeling on there and it gave off too

00:39:44.789 --> 00:39:48.409
dark of a vibe. You could be right. But mid -90s,

00:39:48.409 --> 00:39:50.849
that grunge era, that's why they were forcing

00:39:50.849 --> 00:39:53.389
Sammy to change the lyrics to be more of the

00:39:53.389 --> 00:39:56.309
times. Yeah, it's a great song. It's different,

00:39:56.449 --> 00:39:58.389
I feel like, for them at the time. It seemed

00:39:58.389 --> 00:40:00.130
a little more experimental. It almost seemed

00:40:00.130 --> 00:40:03.710
like that's where... They were headed for three.

00:40:03.929 --> 00:40:06.769
In hindsight, I can say that. But at the time,

00:40:06.789 --> 00:40:08.550
I was like, well, this is really different. All

00:40:08.550 --> 00:40:11.570
right. Well, you went deep. So now I want to

00:40:11.570 --> 00:40:13.849
go in the opposite direction. Again, we're trying

00:40:13.849 --> 00:40:17.429
to keep that quote unquote balance here. So I'm

00:40:17.429 --> 00:40:19.949
going to start with the rhetorical question of

00:40:19.949 --> 00:40:23.090
how in the living hell was this song not released

00:40:23.090 --> 00:40:26.750
as a single? I'll forever wonder this every time

00:40:26.750 --> 00:40:32.219
I drop the needle on 1981's Fair Warning. And

00:40:32.219 --> 00:40:36.239
Mean Street starts. I mean, in Europe, it was

00:40:36.239 --> 00:40:38.699
a single apparently, but for some reason, not

00:40:38.699 --> 00:40:40.940
here in the US. So my question still stands.

00:40:41.420 --> 00:40:44.579
That opening fret tapping from Eddie is just

00:40:44.579 --> 00:40:49.559
absolute insanity. And the song is just so heavy.

00:40:49.599 --> 00:40:52.800
It has such a swagger and a confidence to it.

00:40:53.289 --> 00:40:56.909
And it just shows how locked in the band was

00:40:56.909 --> 00:40:59.590
with Ted Templeman at that point in their career.

00:40:59.710 --> 00:41:03.289
They just popped off four consecutive years with

00:41:03.289 --> 00:41:06.590
four consecutive albums. And to me, they were

00:41:06.590 --> 00:41:09.650
really in a groove at this point. And like I

00:41:09.650 --> 00:41:13.329
had mentioned with Pound Cake, Van Halen is fantastic

00:41:13.329 --> 00:41:15.449
with opening tracks, and this is no different.

00:41:15.550 --> 00:41:18.690
So Mean Street from Fair Warning. Yeah, released

00:41:18.690 --> 00:41:22.110
in Europe only. Yeah, you're so right, Brian.

00:41:22.489 --> 00:41:25.690
What a performance by Ed on this. And it's great

00:41:25.690 --> 00:41:28.070
that they include that opening as part of the

00:41:28.070 --> 00:41:30.289
track because they could have maybe split it

00:41:30.289 --> 00:41:34.530
into two. But that whole album, you know, Eddie's,

00:41:34.530 --> 00:41:39.010
he's got more creative input now. He's sneaking

00:41:39.010 --> 00:41:42.730
into the studio late at night when Ted Templeman

00:41:42.730 --> 00:41:44.969
and Dave and everybody else is gone. It's just

00:41:44.969 --> 00:41:47.409
him and the engineer, Don Landy, and they're

00:41:47.409 --> 00:41:49.909
playing around having fun. doing things that

00:41:49.909 --> 00:41:51.929
they couldn't do before, that they were told

00:41:51.929 --> 00:41:54.670
they couldn't do. And Ed was pushing a little

00:41:54.670 --> 00:41:57.289
bit more. So he's got more of a creative control

00:41:57.289 --> 00:41:59.869
over this. And we see that this trend continues

00:41:59.869 --> 00:42:02.130
to the point where he builds his own studio,

00:42:02.349 --> 00:42:07.210
5150 Studios, for the 1984 album. But this song,

00:42:07.409 --> 00:42:10.469
yeah, and Dave's lyrics, the way he delivers

00:42:10.469 --> 00:42:13.690
the lyrics, the aggression, the attitude, something

00:42:13.690 --> 00:42:17.639
that you can't... forget about he's got that

00:42:17.639 --> 00:42:20.179
unmistakable delivery that the combination of

00:42:20.179 --> 00:42:23.059
dave and ed together was perfect two different

00:42:23.059 --> 00:42:26.639
guys introvert extrovert you know but they just

00:42:26.639 --> 00:42:30.760
had that magic and the sound the pristine production

00:42:30.760 --> 00:42:35.199
credit to ted templeman and landy because these

00:42:35.199 --> 00:42:38.239
songs and these albums all the first six albums

00:42:38.239 --> 00:42:42.920
with dave they are just pristine perfect sounds

00:42:42.920 --> 00:42:45.480
like you're in the room with them And at Sunset

00:42:45.480 --> 00:42:49.019
Sound Studios, they would set it up so that Dave

00:42:49.019 --> 00:42:51.539
would be in the booth, looking through the window

00:42:51.539 --> 00:42:54.719
at the guys in the band performing like it's

00:42:54.719 --> 00:42:58.920
live. So it has that feel to it. This is really,

00:42:58.940 --> 00:43:02.739
from an artistic standpoint, Eddie's peak. From

00:43:02.739 --> 00:43:05.039
a commercial standpoint, we would get it with

00:43:05.039 --> 00:43:11.400
1984. But this is perfect. A good pick. Because

00:43:11.400 --> 00:43:14.559
again, it combines nicely. Comes off of Me Wise

00:43:14.559 --> 00:43:17.460
Magic and Crossing Over, so it's perfect. I like

00:43:17.460 --> 00:43:20.440
it. Actually, to be honest, that was one of the

00:43:20.440 --> 00:43:21.920
other ones that I was having a hard time opening.

00:43:22.300 --> 00:43:25.519
I get it. If you would try to explain to someone

00:43:25.519 --> 00:43:28.960
what he's doing to make that noise at the beginning

00:43:28.960 --> 00:43:31.920
of the song, it's just incredible. And I remember

00:43:31.920 --> 00:43:34.099
when we did see them, the first concert I was

00:43:34.099 --> 00:43:36.659
ever to was the Balance Tour in Minneapolis.

00:43:37.219 --> 00:43:38.880
That's actually, I think, one of the few concerts

00:43:38.880 --> 00:43:40.420
where they had the monks come out at the very

00:43:40.420 --> 00:43:42.260
beginning before they kicked off showing to the

00:43:42.260 --> 00:43:44.190
Seventh Seal. So when they came out, everybody's

00:43:44.190 --> 00:43:46.769
like, what, what is going on here? You know,

00:43:46.769 --> 00:43:49.449
after they boot off Our Lady of Peace. That's

00:43:49.449 --> 00:43:52.090
right. Very interesting. Because then they bring

00:43:52.090 --> 00:43:53.469
these guys out. Everyone's like, well, what's

00:43:53.469 --> 00:43:55.429
this? You know, and it's like, that bunks just

00:43:55.429 --> 00:43:58.110
happened to be in town. It was really cool. But

00:43:58.110 --> 00:44:01.050
he would, during his guitar solo, if I remember

00:44:01.050 --> 00:44:03.329
correctly, there are a few songs that he would,

00:44:03.389 --> 00:44:05.150
you know, quote unquote, tease from the day they

00:44:05.150 --> 00:44:08.469
just, they wouldn't do. And I remember that Mean

00:44:08.469 --> 00:44:11.179
Tree, he would pop that off. And the crowd would

00:44:11.179 --> 00:44:14.380
just go nuts. Just like, come on, just go into

00:44:14.380 --> 00:44:17.599
the song, you know? It's an iconic song as far

00:44:17.599 --> 00:44:19.860
as Van Halen's concerned. The guitar and everything

00:44:19.860 --> 00:44:23.460
in there. It's got that deeper, darker, dirtier

00:44:23.460 --> 00:44:26.360
sound because of the album. Great pick. What's

00:44:26.360 --> 00:44:29.219
cool is, too, that he was inspired by the funk

00:44:29.219 --> 00:44:32.719
slap bass technique. So that's where he's playing

00:44:32.719 --> 00:44:34.619
around. Again, I'd love to just play around with

00:44:34.619 --> 00:44:39.019
different ideas. There it is, man. That's Ed

00:44:39.019 --> 00:44:42.619
at his best. No arguments there. All right, Pete,

00:44:42.719 --> 00:44:45.099
we're back to you now for track seven. Okay,

00:44:45.139 --> 00:44:48.980
I'll follow you up and go with the 1982 release

00:44:48.980 --> 00:44:52.519
Diver Down. This one, I don't know if it's considered

00:44:52.519 --> 00:44:55.719
so much as a deep cut or whatnot amongst Van

00:44:55.719 --> 00:44:58.039
Halen fans. It's one that I'm sure many wish

00:44:58.039 --> 00:45:00.679
was released for a single. Myself included. I

00:45:00.679 --> 00:45:03.300
can never figure out why once you guys release

00:45:03.300 --> 00:45:07.280
Little Guitars is a single. There's so much.

00:45:07.550 --> 00:45:11.829
energy there and just how the background Michael

00:45:11.829 --> 00:45:15.710
and Eddie sing you know Senorita I don't know

00:45:15.710 --> 00:45:18.869
there's a lot going on in that song with it sounds

00:45:18.869 --> 00:45:21.949
so simple but yet there's so much going on and

00:45:21.949 --> 00:45:24.610
it's I love the sound of this album I know it

00:45:24.610 --> 00:45:27.130
gets a lot of flack for all the covers on it

00:45:27.130 --> 00:45:30.969
but I just love how this album sounds and this

00:45:30.969 --> 00:45:34.570
is my favorite song from this album by far I

00:45:34.570 --> 00:45:36.449
just I can't believe it wasn't ever released

00:45:36.449 --> 00:45:39.590
as a single Yeah, think about the originals that

00:45:39.590 --> 00:45:41.070
are on Dive or Down, because a lot of people

00:45:41.070 --> 00:45:44.010
overlook those or forget. Those originals are

00:45:44.010 --> 00:45:45.989
as good as anything that are on any other Van

00:45:45.989 --> 00:45:48.829
Halen album. And there are a few covers there

00:45:48.829 --> 00:45:51.909
that I will defend, and we can get to that maybe

00:45:51.909 --> 00:45:55.530
later. But Little Guitars is one of those songs

00:45:55.530 --> 00:45:57.809
that, yeah, more people need to know about it,

00:45:57.829 --> 00:46:00.050
because unless you're really into Van Halen,

00:46:00.050 --> 00:46:02.789
you may not be aware of this song. And again,

00:46:02.869 --> 00:46:09.380
Dave, with the lyrics. The Mexican flavor. Can't

00:46:09.380 --> 00:46:10.900
crow before I'm out of the woods, but there's

00:46:10.900 --> 00:46:12.840
exceptions to the rule. It's an old saying that

00:46:12.840 --> 00:46:14.840
means a crow flying through the forest won't

00:46:14.840 --> 00:46:17.559
make any noise or it will draw attention to itself

00:46:17.559 --> 00:46:20.380
and could get eaten. I mean, where does Dave

00:46:20.380 --> 00:46:22.440
come up with this stuff? Now, Dave's very well

00:46:22.440 --> 00:46:25.199
read. Dave reads books all the time. He's a reader,

00:46:25.340 --> 00:46:27.340
big time reader, which I should get him on Booked

00:46:27.340 --> 00:46:29.480
on Rock, Brian. What do you think? Can I be a

00:46:29.480 --> 00:46:32.239
guest host? He'll talk rock and roll. Yeah, so.

00:46:32.940 --> 00:46:34.519
Yeah. And I like this because little guitars

00:46:34.519 --> 00:46:36.920
for now, we don't want to get too mellow and

00:46:36.920 --> 00:46:39.460
dark for too long here. So we got me was magic

00:46:39.460 --> 00:46:42.400
crossing over mean street. Okay. So a little

00:46:42.400 --> 00:46:45.800
aggressive sometimes down lyrically, but now

00:46:45.800 --> 00:46:47.860
we're picking things back up here, little guitars.

00:46:48.159 --> 00:46:50.880
So we're, we're on the upward. It's time to party

00:46:50.880 --> 00:46:53.559
again. Yeah. I'm not going to lie. Diver down

00:46:53.559 --> 00:46:57.300
is probably my least favorite Van Halen album

00:46:57.300 --> 00:47:00.460
from the David Lee Roth years. And my reason

00:47:00.460 --> 00:47:03.349
for that is. What you said before, Pete, and

00:47:03.349 --> 00:47:05.429
it sounds weird coming out of my mouth because

00:47:05.429 --> 00:47:09.110
I'm such a big fan of cover songs. But there

00:47:09.110 --> 00:47:11.070
was always this. I can't believe this word keeps

00:47:11.070 --> 00:47:14.750
coming up tonight. Balance with Van Halen one

00:47:14.750 --> 00:47:19.469
having two cover songs on it and then Van Halen

00:47:19.469 --> 00:47:24.010
two having one cover song on it. But then you

00:47:24.010 --> 00:47:26.590
skip two albums with no cover songs and then

00:47:26.590 --> 00:47:30.610
you go to Diver Down and you. offset it with

00:47:30.610 --> 00:47:33.429
five which tilts the scale in the wrong direction

00:47:33.429 --> 00:47:35.710
and eddie would agree with you brian he would

00:47:35.710 --> 00:47:37.449
have agreed with you if he was here right now

00:47:37.449 --> 00:47:39.170
he'd tell you the same thing but that's the thing

00:47:39.170 --> 00:47:42.650
the originals on it are so strong i know they

00:47:42.650 --> 00:47:45.630
were rushing this out because again every year

00:47:45.630 --> 00:47:51.030
from 78 to 82 you got a van halen album and i

00:47:51.030 --> 00:47:53.269
feel like this was a little rushed because i'll

00:47:53.269 --> 00:47:55.730
tell you right now when the band took a little

00:47:55.730 --> 00:48:00.440
bit of time look what comes next So I feel like

00:48:00.440 --> 00:48:02.460
Diver Down could have been one of the bigger

00:48:02.460 --> 00:48:05.360
albums in the band's catalog had they taken just

00:48:05.360 --> 00:48:08.440
a little bit more time and not focused so heavy

00:48:08.440 --> 00:48:10.860
on the covers. But I love the pick. They weren't

00:48:10.860 --> 00:48:12.659
a little rushed. They were a lot rushed. Right.

00:48:12.739 --> 00:48:14.599
I was just trying my best to be kind about it.

00:48:14.760 --> 00:48:17.500
You were being kind. And they had that Pretty

00:48:17.500 --> 00:48:19.719
Woman single that was put out there just to keep

00:48:19.719 --> 00:48:21.739
the name out there, just to keep people reminded,

00:48:21.900 --> 00:48:24.119
hey, Fanny Hillen's still here. It becomes a

00:48:24.119 --> 00:48:26.900
big hit. So now Warner Brothers is saying. Guys,

00:48:26.940 --> 00:48:29.480
you got to get in the studio. Let's go. And Eddie

00:48:29.480 --> 00:48:31.619
was saying, I need time. I don't have because

00:48:31.619 --> 00:48:34.579
they were tapping into on those first two albums

00:48:34.579 --> 00:48:37.559
and sporadically over the next two, tapping into

00:48:37.559 --> 00:48:40.380
some of the songs that they had, you know, in

00:48:40.380 --> 00:48:42.719
their arsenal from before or that Eddie had some

00:48:42.719 --> 00:48:44.619
ideas that he was working on already. But now

00:48:44.619 --> 00:48:47.300
he's like, I need some time. You know, I mean,

00:48:47.300 --> 00:48:50.960
give me some time here. No. So you have this

00:48:50.960 --> 00:48:53.639
knee jerk reaction. Plus the knee jerk reaction.

00:48:54.239 --> 00:48:56.599
to fair warning because it didn't have any hit

00:48:56.599 --> 00:48:59.719
singles on it they wanted to they being dave

00:48:59.719 --> 00:49:01.559
and ted templeman really think that those two

00:49:01.559 --> 00:49:03.659
and warner brothers certainly wouldn't have argued

00:49:03.659 --> 00:49:06.760
it that let's get some hits so let's record songs

00:49:06.760 --> 00:49:10.780
that were already bonafide hits you know just

00:49:10.780 --> 00:49:12.760
like pretty woman let's do it again so you have

00:49:12.760 --> 00:49:15.940
dancing in the street and songs like that so

00:49:15.940 --> 00:49:18.409
eric we're back to you now for track eight So

00:49:18.409 --> 00:49:20.670
I'm up next. Okay. So now we're getting back

00:49:20.670 --> 00:49:23.269
into the Van Halen party mode, right? So little

00:49:23.269 --> 00:49:30.210
guitars. Okay. Well, let's see. I think it's

00:49:30.210 --> 00:49:34.630
time to bust out an undeniable classic from the

00:49:34.630 --> 00:49:39.170
same years. It's time to pull out dreams. Let's

00:49:39.170 --> 00:49:42.210
do it. Excellent. Let's do it. Dreams, right?

00:49:42.429 --> 00:49:44.650
Now I'm saying we're in a party mode here. Dreams

00:49:44.650 --> 00:49:47.800
is not necessarily a party song, but it's. adrenaline

00:49:47.800 --> 00:49:52.860
it's it's feel good time and what song epitomizes

00:49:52.860 --> 00:49:55.699
that more than this especially during sammy years

00:49:55.699 --> 00:49:59.460
vocally sammy just reaching to all new heights

00:49:59.460 --> 00:50:02.239
and mick jones from foreigner he produced the

00:50:02.239 --> 00:50:04.739
album he just kept pushing sammy he sammy said

00:50:04.739 --> 00:50:07.139
you know they they were walking along the beach

00:50:07.139 --> 00:50:09.199
there where they're recording and he's like i

00:50:09.199 --> 00:50:11.679
can't man i can mix like you can do it man you

00:50:11.679 --> 00:50:13.480
can do it so he went back in there he pushed

00:50:13.480 --> 00:50:17.280
it and he man this is vocally just This is his

00:50:17.280 --> 00:50:19.119
peak. And lyrically, too, you know, I mean, this

00:50:19.119 --> 00:50:22.280
is this epitomizes that Sammy era, you know,

00:50:22.300 --> 00:50:24.699
just that positive mindset that he has to this

00:50:24.699 --> 00:50:27.639
day. You know, he just makes the most out of

00:50:27.639 --> 00:50:30.559
every day. And boy, he's here's a guy who came

00:50:30.559 --> 00:50:33.719
from very little, you know, poverty. His dad

00:50:33.719 --> 00:50:36.219
was an alcoholic, not in the picture, eventually

00:50:36.219 --> 00:50:39.360
died fairly young. And, you know, Sammy could

00:50:39.360 --> 00:50:42.400
have just said, hey, my life is just, you know.

00:50:42.800 --> 00:50:44.579
It's going to turn out the same way, but he was

00:50:44.579 --> 00:50:46.340
destined to become a rock star, he said, and

00:50:46.340 --> 00:50:50.440
he became one. This song is very, very special

00:50:50.440 --> 00:50:53.539
to me for personal reasons, which I'll get into

00:50:53.539 --> 00:50:56.019
in a second. But you talked about Sammy's vocals.

00:50:56.260 --> 00:50:59.099
When you're introducing a new singer to a band,

00:50:59.320 --> 00:51:03.920
you want to make sure you distinguish why he

00:51:03.920 --> 00:51:07.880
is now the singer. And Dreams is a song that

00:51:07.880 --> 00:51:12.239
as much as I love David Lee Roth. I cannot picture

00:51:12.239 --> 00:51:17.699
David Lee Roth attacking this style of Van Halen

00:51:17.699 --> 00:51:22.000
song. And to me, that was a smart move on the

00:51:22.000 --> 00:51:25.219
band's part to include a song like this in the

00:51:25.219 --> 00:51:28.340
fold. And Sammy has gone out and said that dreams

00:51:28.340 --> 00:51:31.000
and right now are his two favorite songs from

00:51:31.000 --> 00:51:34.960
his tenure with dreams slightly edging out right

00:51:34.960 --> 00:51:37.059
now. If you were to push him on the subject.

00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:40.679
So to me, I couldn't agree more. And the personal

00:51:40.679 --> 00:51:43.440
meaning is my football coach in high school used

00:51:43.440 --> 00:51:46.860
this on his gym workout mix. And when we were

00:51:46.860 --> 00:51:50.280
lifting weights, this was on his tape and nobody

00:51:50.280 --> 00:51:53.780
was able to take that tape out of the boom box

00:51:53.780 --> 00:51:57.860
in the gym. If he was there, it was this song.

00:51:57.900 --> 00:52:00.690
It was, there was no easy way out. From Rocky

00:52:00.690 --> 00:52:04.070
four, all different. That's a classic workouts.

00:52:04.190 --> 00:52:08.070
Yeah. You're the best karate kid, all these like

00:52:08.070 --> 00:52:11.030
positive up and you could not change that cassette.

00:52:11.070 --> 00:52:15.110
However, I always loved dreams prior to those

00:52:15.110 --> 00:52:17.670
workouts. And to me, as soon as I hear the opening

00:52:17.670 --> 00:52:20.860
to this song. I could close my eyes and I'm in

00:52:20.860 --> 00:52:23.260
that gym with my buddies in high school getting

00:52:23.260 --> 00:52:25.460
ready for football. I'm picturing the montage

00:52:25.460 --> 00:52:28.500
scenes with Brian getting jacked here in Listen

00:52:28.500 --> 00:52:32.780
to Dreams. So I love the pick. Yeah, excellent

00:52:32.780 --> 00:52:36.360
pick. It might be up there. Somebody always asks

00:52:36.360 --> 00:52:38.900
you, what's your top five favorite song in all

00:52:38.900 --> 00:52:42.340
genres, all time? This might be in that top five.

00:52:42.420 --> 00:52:46.059
Just growing up in the MTV. era you know i remember

00:52:46.059 --> 00:52:48.420
the video they make quote unquote like an official

00:52:48.420 --> 00:52:51.119
video but it was with the with the blue angels

00:52:51.119 --> 00:52:54.300
were on it and it was you almost get goosebumps

00:52:54.300 --> 00:52:57.820
every time and what sticks out for me in this

00:52:57.820 --> 00:53:02.019
song is quote unquote the second guitar solo

00:53:02.019 --> 00:53:05.599
i don't when he taps and sammy's hitting that

00:53:05.599 --> 00:53:07.880
high note oh my god i just the first sticks up

00:53:07.880 --> 00:53:11.860
you know it's just an incredible that band right

00:53:11.860 --> 00:53:15.739
there in that moment is so on it it's hard to

00:53:15.739 --> 00:53:19.800
beat you nailed it when i listened to this cassette

00:53:19.800 --> 00:53:23.059
my older brother's cassette this is what got

00:53:23.059 --> 00:53:26.639
me into van halen this album christmas eve 1988

00:53:26.639 --> 00:53:32.420
and it was that second solo where i just remember

00:53:32.420 --> 00:53:35.679
closing my eyes i'm just like god damn that's

00:53:35.679 --> 00:53:38.519
awesome you know because i mean the whole song

00:53:38.519 --> 00:53:42.150
this is one where sammy said that eddie had shoeboxes

00:53:42.150 --> 00:53:44.329
of cassettes, you know, or just cassettes all

00:53:44.329 --> 00:53:46.369
over the floor at the studio. And they would

00:53:46.369 --> 00:53:48.369
go through each and play it. And Sammy would

00:53:48.369 --> 00:53:51.489
say, yeah, I like that. Let's hold on to that.

00:53:51.969 --> 00:53:54.309
No, I don't like that. And when he heard Dreams

00:53:54.309 --> 00:53:58.110
come up, he was like, whoa, okay, let's work

00:53:58.110 --> 00:54:01.949
in this. And Eddie's doing some really cool stuff

00:54:01.949 --> 00:54:03.610
with the acoustic guitars and, of course, the

00:54:03.610 --> 00:54:06.550
keyboards. And this is songwriter Eddie right

00:54:06.550 --> 00:54:09.630
here. And that second solo is very Clapton -esque.

00:54:09.690 --> 00:54:12.619
It's less is more. It's minimalist. You know,

00:54:12.619 --> 00:54:14.219
that's the thing. A lot of people will try to

00:54:14.219 --> 00:54:15.840
say, Eddie's just all about playing a million

00:54:15.840 --> 00:54:18.940
notes. Listen to this song. This is a great example.

00:54:19.199 --> 00:54:22.800
He knew when to pull back, and he fits that little

00:54:22.800 --> 00:54:26.199
solo right there at the end, and it's just goosebumps.

00:54:26.460 --> 00:54:28.820
Yeah, love it. You can't not feel good listening

00:54:28.820 --> 00:54:31.440
to this song. All right, well, I get to follow

00:54:31.440 --> 00:54:35.679
it up now with track. And because this is a longer

00:54:35.679 --> 00:54:38.179
side, we still have a couple of more tracks to

00:54:38.179 --> 00:54:40.380
go. I'm going to go with what I feel is one of

00:54:40.380 --> 00:54:44.340
the most criminally underrated songs on one of

00:54:44.340 --> 00:54:47.079
the band's biggest albums. And I'm going to go

00:54:47.079 --> 00:54:50.199
back to 1984. And I'm going to go with the album.

00:54:50.380 --> 00:54:54.860
No, I'm just kidding. The whole album. The whole

00:54:54.860 --> 00:54:58.659
album, yeah. When you go back to 1984, so many

00:54:58.659 --> 00:55:01.869
massive hits, so much radio play. And then at

00:55:01.869 --> 00:55:04.389
the end of side one, you get drop dead legs.

00:55:05.530 --> 00:55:09.909
ACDC -esque in nature. It gives it its own home

00:55:09.909 --> 00:55:13.110
in this varied types of sounds that you were

00:55:13.110 --> 00:55:16.349
getting on 1984. And let's just be honest, the

00:55:16.349 --> 00:55:21.590
last 90 seconds of that song are some of Eddie's

00:55:21.590 --> 00:55:25.110
most ridiculous. I mean, the riff and the solo

00:55:25.110 --> 00:55:28.760
over each other. My young mind at that point,

00:55:28.780 --> 00:55:31.480
when my cousin played me this album for the first

00:55:31.480 --> 00:55:34.400
time, I couldn't process what I was hearing.

00:55:34.780 --> 00:55:38.980
It was magic to me as a young kid. And it still

00:55:38.980 --> 00:55:42.460
is as an adult. Talk about closing out an album

00:55:42.460 --> 00:55:46.760
side. I mean, 1984, Jump, Panama, Top Jimmy,

00:55:46.980 --> 00:55:50.039
Drop Dead Legs. So we're getting towards the

00:55:50.039 --> 00:55:52.579
end of the side here, following up Dreams. Let's

00:55:52.579 --> 00:55:54.619
go with something a little different. Eddie said

00:55:54.619 --> 00:55:57.769
he was trying to. play something inspired by

00:55:57.769 --> 00:56:00.590
ACDC. Because, you know, they played a few shows

00:56:00.590 --> 00:56:05.110
with him in 83. And so this was him trying to,

00:56:05.190 --> 00:56:07.650
you know, because he was a big fan of Angus.

00:56:07.789 --> 00:56:10.469
And this was his way of, you know, tipping his

00:56:10.469 --> 00:56:14.989
cap to Angus. And it is an ACDC -like song. And

00:56:14.989 --> 00:56:17.030
then you have Dave's lyrics, which are inspired

00:56:17.030 --> 00:56:19.679
partly by... the movie Some Like It Hot, Marilyn

00:56:19.679 --> 00:56:22.719
Monroe. And there's a scene in there where she's

00:56:22.719 --> 00:56:26.099
walking past the train and the steam goes up,

00:56:26.179 --> 00:56:28.360
you know, and that's where the lyrics come from,

00:56:28.360 --> 00:56:32.619
you know, the big butt and this, you know, all

00:56:32.619 --> 00:56:35.579
that makes me scream and all that stuff. Yeah,

00:56:35.659 --> 00:56:38.179
this is like vintage Van Halen. This is like

00:56:38.179 --> 00:56:41.440
them at their peak in terms of, you know, reaching

00:56:41.440 --> 00:56:44.260
that point where, you know, they're making a

00:56:44.260 --> 00:56:49.500
song that musically, It's got all the ending.

00:56:49.579 --> 00:56:52.559
Like you say, that extended ending, Eddie was

00:56:52.559 --> 00:56:55.300
inspired by Alan Holdsworth. He was a big fan

00:56:55.300 --> 00:56:57.360
of Alan Holdsworth. So that was him tipping it

00:56:57.360 --> 00:57:00.699
out to him. I don't know how often they played

00:57:00.699 --> 00:57:04.219
it on that tour, but boy, drop dead legs, man.

00:57:04.679 --> 00:57:06.619
You can't go wrong with that, but I'm probably

00:57:06.619 --> 00:57:09.539
going to say that so many times. But inspired

00:57:09.539 --> 00:57:12.280
by Back in Black specifically, Eddie said. You

00:57:12.280 --> 00:57:14.320
can hear that too a little bit in there, that

00:57:14.320 --> 00:57:16.280
inspiration. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

00:57:16.500 --> 00:57:20.280
I like it. I really like technology these days

00:57:20.280 --> 00:57:22.460
with the headphones we have, because to hear

00:57:22.460 --> 00:57:25.659
that on a good set of headphones, the ending

00:57:25.659 --> 00:57:27.820
of the song, just kind of the noodling around

00:57:27.820 --> 00:57:30.619
and stuff on Alex playing the drums and things,

00:57:30.719 --> 00:57:32.780
kind of like you said, how many songs are we

00:57:32.780 --> 00:57:35.019
going to see this month? It's underrated. It's

00:57:35.019 --> 00:57:37.889
like picking your favorite kid. it's a fantastic

00:57:37.889 --> 00:57:40.869
song i really like it it seemed like a little

00:57:40.869 --> 00:57:43.869
bit of a change up on there i know the other

00:57:43.869 --> 00:57:46.510
release they had it's uh my mind's drawn a blank

00:57:46.510 --> 00:57:48.789
right now i can go to this and be ashamed while

00:57:48.789 --> 00:57:51.269
people are throwing things at their their phones

00:57:51.269 --> 00:57:53.590
they'll be like it's all wait darn it i'll wait

00:57:53.590 --> 00:57:56.610
yeah but yeah it was it's a little different

00:57:56.610 --> 00:58:00.010
you know the that album It's somewhat of a roller

00:58:00.010 --> 00:58:02.530
coaster. You got just the two little dips in

00:58:02.530 --> 00:58:04.269
there, you know, with Drop Dead Lights, just

00:58:04.269 --> 00:58:06.309
a tone down just a little bit, you know, but

00:58:06.309 --> 00:58:08.469
just really powerful and funky. And then I'll

00:58:08.469 --> 00:58:10.730
wait. But then all the other songs in there are

00:58:10.730 --> 00:58:13.570
just blistering, you know. So, yeah, it was a

00:58:13.570 --> 00:58:15.550
cool change of it. It's such a great sound on

00:58:15.550 --> 00:58:17.250
that song. That's a great pick. It's a great

00:58:17.250 --> 00:58:20.570
Ed and Al moment. There are Ed and Al songs where

00:58:20.570 --> 00:58:23.269
the two of them are just in lockstep with each

00:58:23.269 --> 00:58:25.829
other and that's it. That's a result of them

00:58:25.829 --> 00:58:28.449
playing endless hours together in the studio.

00:58:28.670 --> 00:58:30.610
And like Alex would say, we would just play and

00:58:30.610 --> 00:58:33.469
play and play. And then we would pick up on something

00:58:33.469 --> 00:58:35.650
that stood out and say, let's go with that. And

00:58:35.650 --> 00:58:37.670
I could just imagine, I could just see that riff

00:58:37.670 --> 00:58:39.530
all of a sudden popping up and he just starts

00:58:39.530 --> 00:58:42.550
to play it. And Alex is like, whoa, okay. To

00:58:42.550 --> 00:58:44.789
be a fly on the room during those sessions, damn.

00:58:45.389 --> 00:58:47.150
Well, Pete, with that, we're back to you for

00:58:47.150 --> 00:58:49.949
track 10. Yeah, I don't want to slow down too

00:58:49.949 --> 00:58:52.809
much with that one. So we'll keep a little bit

00:58:52.809 --> 00:58:55.309
of a party mode here. This one sticks out to

00:58:55.309 --> 00:58:57.730
me particularly in concert when everybody would

00:58:57.730 --> 00:58:59.690
get if they had a towel or some people their

00:58:59.690 --> 00:59:02.789
shirt or whatnot. Just whip it and run and round

00:59:02.789 --> 00:59:05.989
and round and round up in the air. I'll pick

00:59:05.989 --> 00:59:08.469
and run around from For Unluckled Colonel Knowledge.

00:59:08.730 --> 00:59:11.550
I love that video. I keep going back to MTV,

00:59:11.730 --> 00:59:15.389
but it's what I did back then. Nintendo and MTV.

00:59:16.010 --> 00:59:19.489
It was a great video watching those guys walk

00:59:19.489 --> 00:59:23.000
on that disc that would spin around. Of course,

00:59:23.039 --> 00:59:25.000
Alex, throughout those years, we're wearing the,

00:59:25.039 --> 00:59:27.780
what the funky sunglasses with the sides on them.

00:59:27.820 --> 00:59:29.880
If you remember from the pound cake video and

00:59:29.880 --> 00:59:32.719
Alex was just always so cool. Like, can anybody

00:59:32.719 --> 00:59:35.820
be as cool as Alex is on the drums? I love the,

00:59:35.880 --> 00:59:38.480
you call it a breakdown and a song, you know,

00:59:38.500 --> 00:59:40.599
when it kind of gets quiet and, you know, Sammy

00:59:40.599 --> 00:59:43.260
shows off his former boxing moves and stuff in

00:59:43.260 --> 00:59:45.960
the video. And I, it's a great song. I, I like

00:59:45.960 --> 00:59:48.400
it. So I'm going to take, run around just to

00:59:48.400 --> 00:59:50.219
keep up kind of the party mood here at the end.

00:59:50.789 --> 00:59:53.050
Love Runaround, and Sammy's vocals are great

00:59:53.050 --> 00:59:55.409
on this, and he's in the pocket when they get

00:59:55.409 --> 00:59:58.510
into those verses, and it's a great groove. Runaround,

00:59:58.650 --> 01:00:01.409
a song that even I have friends who aren't huge

01:00:01.409 --> 01:00:04.989
fans of the Sammy era that will say, I gotta

01:00:04.989 --> 01:00:07.769
admit, I love Runaround. Yeah, that's one of

01:00:07.769 --> 01:00:11.750
their last big hits, I guess, because then they

01:00:11.750 --> 01:00:14.789
had Can't Stop Loving You after that on Balance,

01:00:15.010 --> 01:00:18.820
but yeah, one of the great Sammy era tunes. I

01:00:18.820 --> 01:00:21.539
got her in my sight, but just out of reach. The

01:00:21.539 --> 01:00:25.880
kind of lyrics and themes that you'll only get

01:00:25.880 --> 01:00:28.579
from the Van Hagar era of the band. Because really,

01:00:28.699 --> 01:00:32.280
Runaround is essentially a pining, a love song

01:00:32.280 --> 01:00:35.260
that you're not getting from the David Lee Roth

01:00:35.260 --> 01:00:37.980
era. I mean, the closest love song that I could

01:00:37.980 --> 01:00:39.599
think of off the top of my head is Hot for Teacher.

01:00:39.840 --> 01:00:43.199
But it's a totally different type of love. And

01:00:43.199 --> 01:00:47.380
the guitar solo in Runaround could be my favorite.

01:00:48.039 --> 01:00:51.139
on for unlawful carnal knowledge besides the

01:00:51.139 --> 01:00:54.519
power drill like so i love the pick i absolutely

01:00:54.519 --> 01:00:58.059
love it and now eric we're back to you to follow

01:00:58.059 --> 01:01:00.920
it up your last pick for side a all right so

01:01:00.920 --> 01:01:03.000
here we go i've been waiting to pull this one

01:01:03.000 --> 01:01:06.000
out and i think this is the right time and this

01:01:06.000 --> 01:01:10.420
is my hands down favorite deep track from the

01:01:10.420 --> 01:01:13.179
dave era And by the way, my favorite deep track

01:01:13.179 --> 01:01:15.699
from the Sammy era comes from For Unlawful Carnal

01:01:15.699 --> 01:01:17.599
Knowledge, so I'm hoping to sneak that one in

01:01:17.599 --> 01:01:22.360
side B. Romeo Delight from Women and Children

01:01:22.360 --> 01:01:27.199
First. Absolute classic Dave era song. Because

01:01:27.199 --> 01:01:29.699
it was never released as a single, it makes it

01:01:29.699 --> 01:01:32.099
that much more enjoyable because every time I

01:01:32.099 --> 01:01:34.019
hear it, it feels like I'm listening to it for

01:01:34.019 --> 01:01:39.880
the first time. That opening... And they open

01:01:39.880 --> 01:01:43.489
the... The Us Festival, that show they opened

01:01:43.489 --> 01:01:45.570
with that song, and it's just a perfect opener.

01:01:45.809 --> 01:01:48.269
And it's got that stop and start and a push and

01:01:48.269 --> 01:01:51.969
pull and that perfect interlude for Dave to do

01:01:51.969 --> 01:01:54.929
his thing. And you're hearing Michael Anthony

01:01:54.929 --> 01:01:57.769
doing that cool little thumping bass in the middle.

01:01:57.809 --> 01:02:01.170
And when I listened to this for the first time,

01:02:01.230 --> 01:02:06.110
I hadn't seen Dave perform this live at any time.

01:02:06.269 --> 01:02:09.369
Never did it as a solo artist and never saw him.

01:02:09.679 --> 01:02:11.639
perform it with van halen but i just remember

01:02:11.639 --> 01:02:14.199
saying boy i could close my eyes and just imagine

01:02:14.199 --> 01:02:16.599
this as a perfect live song and when you get

01:02:16.599 --> 01:02:19.199
to the 2007 tour and they have that in the set

01:02:19.199 --> 01:02:22.420
list dave was just like on his game when they

01:02:22.420 --> 01:02:26.199
get to that breakdown and he's like we're building

01:02:26.199 --> 01:02:28.599
tension here you know and then you hear eddie

01:02:28.599 --> 01:02:33.699
like you know it is like i said my hands down

01:02:33.699 --> 01:02:36.340
favorite deep track from the dave era romeo delight

01:02:36.340 --> 01:02:41.510
track number 11. Side A. Romeo Delight. The first

01:02:41.510 --> 01:02:43.369
thing that sticks out to me, like you said, is,

01:02:43.369 --> 01:02:45.230
I don't know, whatever, right? The Us Festival,

01:02:45.349 --> 01:02:48.250
the U .S. Festival. Whether or not Dave really

01:02:48.250 --> 01:02:52.210
forgets the blanking words is the question. I'm

01:02:52.210 --> 01:02:54.789
not really sure. We also don't know if The Clash

01:02:54.789 --> 01:02:56.610
are the only ones that put iced tea in their

01:02:56.610 --> 01:03:00.190
whiskey bottles, but it's a classic song. Yeah.

01:03:00.329 --> 01:03:02.550
I also found it interesting not to take anything

01:03:02.550 --> 01:03:05.349
away from Dave, but when Gary did it on Tour

01:03:05.349 --> 01:03:09.159
2. They sounded great two years later. Yeah,

01:03:09.300 --> 01:03:12.719
that's a really good deep track song. More people

01:03:12.719 --> 01:03:14.239
need to hear that one. So if you're listening,

01:03:14.320 --> 01:03:16.059
go check out Romeo Delight. You'll be delighted.

01:03:16.260 --> 01:03:19.579
Yeah, the great harmonics tapping. And credit

01:03:19.579 --> 01:03:22.679
to Gary for wanting to put that in the set list.

01:03:23.219 --> 01:03:27.179
And I'll also say that, like Drop Dead Legs,

01:03:27.179 --> 01:03:29.920
this was at a moment in time when the band is

01:03:29.920 --> 01:03:34.769
focusing on albums. Not singles. Bands did this.

01:03:34.889 --> 01:03:38.690
But album opening songs were supposed to be just

01:03:38.690 --> 01:03:42.530
as strong as the side closer. Because if you

01:03:42.530 --> 01:03:44.889
have a weak side closer, you're not really enticing

01:03:44.889 --> 01:03:46.909
people to flip it over and continue listening.

01:03:47.150 --> 01:03:51.429
And Romeo Delight is such a perfect side one

01:03:51.429 --> 01:03:54.889
closer to me, just like Drop Dead Legs is on

01:03:54.889 --> 01:03:58.070
1984. Because you don't get to Hot for Teacher.

01:03:58.639 --> 01:04:01.179
If you don't flip it over, same thing with women

01:04:01.179 --> 01:04:02.820
and children first, you don't get the Torah Torah

01:04:02.820 --> 01:04:07.079
and loss of control. To me, I love it. And now

01:04:07.079 --> 01:04:10.119
I have the tough decision to close out Side A.

01:04:10.860 --> 01:04:14.079
And I want to bounce around and get to some albums

01:04:14.079 --> 01:04:16.800
we haven't talked about yet. So I am going to

01:04:16.800 --> 01:04:21.460
go to a song that my father fell in love with

01:04:21.460 --> 01:04:23.719
at the same time as I did. Now, this was at a

01:04:23.719 --> 01:04:28.079
point in time, 1988. where my father and I were

01:04:28.079 --> 01:04:30.480
drifting musically in different directions. I

01:04:30.480 --> 01:04:34.719
was now growing into my teens and starting to

01:04:34.719 --> 01:04:37.800
create my own musical identity. But there were

01:04:37.800 --> 01:04:40.139
certain times where we would align on a song

01:04:40.139 --> 01:04:43.579
and be like, we're still in lockstep. And Finish

01:04:43.579 --> 01:04:46.739
What You Started from OU812 is one of those moments.

01:04:47.480 --> 01:04:51.119
Plus, it's the last song on side A, so Finish

01:04:51.119 --> 01:04:52.900
What You Started kind of has a little bit of

01:04:52.900 --> 01:04:55.929
a meta vibe going here. It reached number 13,

01:04:56.170 --> 01:04:59.969
almost a top 10 hit. So it was a massive hit

01:04:59.969 --> 01:05:02.750
for the band. Stayed on the chart for 20 weeks,

01:05:02.949 --> 01:05:06.010
one week shy of their longest charting song,

01:05:06.150 --> 01:05:08.750
which was Jump. So, I mean, this song had staying

01:05:08.750 --> 01:05:13.110
power. And as a musician, I love the fact that

01:05:13.110 --> 01:05:17.030
Eddie recorded this guitar clean, plugged directly

01:05:17.030 --> 01:05:21.010
into the board. That is how you get this really

01:05:21.010 --> 01:05:25.719
unique sound. on the song. And with that unique

01:05:25.719 --> 01:05:28.760
sound, to me, it sticks out like a Spanish fly

01:05:28.760 --> 01:05:33.719
does on Van Halen 2. This is a song that utilizes

01:05:33.719 --> 01:05:36.860
less overdrive and distortion, which is kind

01:05:36.860 --> 01:05:40.199
of a mainstay in Van Halen music. So by going

01:05:40.199 --> 01:05:43.440
to the opposite end of that spectrum, you really

01:05:43.440 --> 01:05:47.539
flip the album on its side. It works really well

01:05:47.539 --> 01:05:49.559
with Sammy. It's one of the two songs that he

01:05:49.559 --> 01:05:53.130
actually plays guitar. in a Van Halen song. Now

01:05:53.130 --> 01:05:56.030
think about that. The only two songs that Sammy

01:05:56.030 --> 01:05:59.690
Hagar, a very accomplished guitarist, he is not

01:05:59.690 --> 01:06:03.050
a slouch on guitar. One of two times he picked

01:06:03.050 --> 01:06:07.489
up the guitar. And then in 1990, the song was

01:06:07.489 --> 01:06:10.809
used as the theme music for a short -lived Valerie

01:06:10.809 --> 01:06:14.369
Bertinelli sitcom called Sydney. So I guess it's

01:06:14.369 --> 01:06:16.869
good to have connections in that scenario. But

01:06:16.869 --> 01:06:20.070
I still love this song to this day. Finishing

01:06:20.070 --> 01:06:23.960
out. Side A, finish what you started from OU812.

01:06:24.500 --> 01:06:26.719
Yeah, and a great example of what that album

01:06:26.719 --> 01:06:30.019
OU812 represented, which is experimenting, doing

01:06:30.019 --> 01:06:33.239
things, having fun, stretching out. Some of the

01:06:33.239 --> 01:06:35.980
songs on there, Sammy regretted lyrically because

01:06:35.980 --> 01:06:38.480
they just were just having fun. You know, like

01:06:38.480 --> 01:06:42.219
I think, what was it? If You Naturally Wired

01:06:42.219 --> 01:06:44.420
or one of those songs. But anyway, this song

01:06:44.420 --> 01:06:48.460
is, and you mentioned Brian, he's plugging directly

01:06:48.460 --> 01:06:51.820
into the studio mixing console with his Fender

01:06:51.820 --> 01:06:54.500
Stratocaster. And this is something that, this

01:06:54.500 --> 01:06:56.800
kind of harkens back to the Dave years of experimenting,

01:06:57.059 --> 01:06:58.539
like kind of like the Women and Children First

01:06:58.539 --> 01:07:01.119
thing where you have some experimenting going

01:07:01.119 --> 01:07:03.519
on here. And I love that Eddie came up with the

01:07:03.519 --> 01:07:05.559
guitar part like two o 'clock in the morning

01:07:05.559 --> 01:07:07.980
and Sammy was his neighbor. So they live next

01:07:07.980 --> 01:07:10.760
to each other. he's sammy you gotta come over

01:07:10.760 --> 01:07:14.079
man and sammy's like what the hell man i'm sleeping

01:07:14.079 --> 01:07:17.320
but when creativity strikes with eddie you you

01:07:17.320 --> 01:07:19.239
better be there and sammy showed up and they

01:07:19.239 --> 01:07:22.179
finished up this song and yeah like you said

01:07:22.179 --> 01:07:24.820
brian it's just one of the bigger hits from the

01:07:24.820 --> 01:07:27.000
sammy era and i remember this being on the radio

01:07:27.000 --> 01:07:29.199
all the time and the video too the black and

01:07:29.199 --> 01:07:31.739
white video wearing the cowboy hats and get some,

01:07:31.739 --> 01:07:34.420
uh, some smoking hot women in the video, you

01:07:34.420 --> 01:07:37.139
know, the eighties, man, beautiful thing. Yeah.

01:07:37.199 --> 01:07:39.320
The main thing that comes to mind with this song

01:07:39.320 --> 01:07:42.860
is at the beginning, that drum beat, what the

01:07:42.860 --> 01:07:45.039
heck is going on? I just sit there and I try

01:07:45.039 --> 01:07:47.059
to tap to it in the car all the time. Like, man,

01:07:47.159 --> 01:07:49.199
I just, I can't figure out what the heck you're

01:07:49.199 --> 01:07:52.159
doing here. Good luck keeping up. Right? Exactly.

01:07:52.300 --> 01:07:55.260
Yeah. That's the underrated Alex Van Halen right

01:07:55.260 --> 01:07:57.389
there. I think underrated. Yeah, that drum beat,

01:07:57.510 --> 01:07:59.670
you could count. You could snap your finger and

01:07:59.670 --> 01:08:02.070
count along with the song. But the stuff and

01:08:02.070 --> 01:08:05.670
the times he's hitting the snare is so complex.

01:08:06.570 --> 01:08:10.349
In its simplicity, it's staggering. Yeah, you're

01:08:10.349 --> 01:08:12.809
so right. Well, you know, Pete, this is the thing.

01:08:12.889 --> 01:08:15.630
One of the magical things about Van Halen is

01:08:15.630 --> 01:08:20.250
that this band would attract musicians and non

01:08:20.250 --> 01:08:22.369
-musicians. Like myself, I'm not a musician.

01:08:22.670 --> 01:08:24.829
You just, when you hear a song, you love it.

01:08:25.960 --> 01:08:29.140
Those who are hardcore musicians, hardcore guitarists,

01:08:29.140 --> 01:08:31.279
they love listening to Eddie and hearing what

01:08:31.279 --> 01:08:34.159
he's doing, but you don't have to be. And that's

01:08:34.159 --> 01:08:36.520
what makes, again, Eddie a great songwriter.

01:08:36.619 --> 01:08:38.979
And we got to give credit to Sammy and Dave for

01:08:38.979 --> 01:08:40.819
contributing with the songwriting, you know,

01:08:40.819 --> 01:08:43.579
that whole package. But it's the songs that matter

01:08:43.579 --> 01:08:46.300
most. And Ed would tell you that, you know, it

01:08:46.300 --> 01:08:47.960
wasn't, you know, he could have gone and done

01:08:47.960 --> 01:08:50.420
an instrumental album at any time, but it was

01:08:50.420 --> 01:08:52.579
about the songs, the whole package. And these

01:08:52.579 --> 01:08:55.289
songs are just undeniable. Well, there you have

01:08:55.289 --> 01:08:58.909
it, folks. Side A of our ultimate Van Halen mixtape

01:08:58.909 --> 01:09:02.789
consisting of Eruption from Van Halen 1, You

01:09:02.789 --> 01:09:05.909
Really Got Me from Van Halen 1, Pound Cake from

01:09:05.909 --> 01:09:09.470
4 Unlawful Carnal Knowledge, Me Wise Magic from

01:09:09.470 --> 01:09:12.649
Best Of Volume 1, Crossing Over from the Japanese

01:09:12.649 --> 01:09:16.109
Edition of Balance, Mean Street from Fair Warning,

01:09:16.409 --> 01:09:20.329
Little Guitars from Diver Down, Dreams from 5150,

01:09:20.710 --> 01:09:24.529
Drop Dead Legs from 1984, Run around from Four

01:09:24.529 --> 01:09:27.489
Unlawful Carnal Knowledge, Romeo Delight from

01:09:27.489 --> 01:09:29.810
Women and Children First, and Finish What You

01:09:29.810 --> 01:09:34.050
Started from OU812. Head over to MyWeeklyMixtape

01:09:34.050 --> 01:09:36.770
.com to hear all the songs we've discussed in

01:09:36.770 --> 01:09:39.869
this mix through the playlist embedded on the

01:09:39.869 --> 01:09:43.550
episode page. Now, before we flip things over

01:09:43.550 --> 01:09:46.449
to Side B, Eric, you mentioned your podcast Booked

01:09:46.449 --> 01:09:48.510
on Rock at the top of the show. Why don't you

01:09:48.510 --> 01:09:50.529
tell people a little bit more about the show?

01:09:51.190 --> 01:09:53.050
Yeah, Books on Rock. Thanks, Brian. Yeah, it

01:09:53.050 --> 01:09:57.569
is focused on, well, it's about our love of classic

01:09:57.569 --> 01:09:59.729
rock. So anything from, you know, you can go

01:09:59.729 --> 01:10:01.869
all the way back to the Elvis Presley years right

01:10:01.869 --> 01:10:04.949
up and through to today, if you'd like, but primarily

01:10:04.949 --> 01:10:07.970
from the mid -60s to mid -90s. And it focuses

01:10:07.970 --> 01:10:09.630
on all these books that have been written, these

01:10:09.630 --> 01:10:11.149
amazing books that have been written on these

01:10:11.149 --> 01:10:14.310
artists, on these albums, on these eras or particular

01:10:14.310 --> 01:10:17.989
stories that took place during these periods

01:10:17.989 --> 01:10:21.369
like Woodstock or, you know, Altamont. So each

01:10:21.369 --> 01:10:23.909
week we have at least one, if not two episodes

01:10:23.909 --> 01:10:27.119
where we talk with an author of a book who. Tells

01:10:27.119 --> 01:10:28.880
us all the great stories that are in the book.

01:10:29.039 --> 01:10:31.779
For example, we just had an episode recently,

01:10:31.920 --> 01:10:34.039
a book on Counting Crows. Jeff Harkness wrote

01:10:34.039 --> 01:10:36.460
a book on Adam Duritz and Counting Crows. I had

01:10:36.460 --> 01:10:39.199
James Campion on recently who wrote a fabulous

01:10:39.199 --> 01:10:42.140
book from 2018. And we wanted to have him back

01:10:42.140 --> 01:10:43.939
on just to talk about the late, great Warren

01:10:43.939 --> 01:10:46.579
Zevon. And he wrote a book called Accidentally

01:10:46.579 --> 01:10:49.039
Like a Martyr, The Tortured Art of Warren Zevon.

01:10:49.380 --> 01:10:53.239
We've had episodes on David Bowie's Scary Monsters

01:10:53.239 --> 01:10:56.819
album, The Who Quadrophenia, Ozzy at 75. But,

01:10:56.819 --> 01:10:58.859
you know, some of the moments on the show that

01:10:58.859 --> 01:11:01.579
really stand out for me is a recent one, really,

01:11:01.640 --> 01:11:04.760
from Liberty DeVito, the drummer of Billy Joel.

01:11:05.079 --> 01:11:07.800
And he had some absolutely phenomenal stories

01:11:07.800 --> 01:11:10.239
about his time with Billy, his falling out with

01:11:10.239 --> 01:11:12.939
Billy, how he made up. And they made peace again

01:11:12.939 --> 01:11:16.060
after 15 years of not talking. And so we had

01:11:16.060 --> 01:11:20.880
him on. I think we're up to now, let's see, 156

01:11:20.880 --> 01:11:23.890
episodes total. And I just think people will

01:11:23.890 --> 01:11:26.369
enjoy it. If you love classic rock and you want

01:11:26.369 --> 01:11:28.770
to hear all the great stories, this is it. You

01:11:28.770 --> 01:11:31.529
can go to BookedOnRock .com or on YouTube, Spotify,

01:11:31.810 --> 01:11:33.510
you name it. We're all over the place. All the

01:11:33.510 --> 01:11:35.949
platforms you can find right there. And I think

01:11:35.949 --> 01:11:39.430
that covers it. And we also have a series of

01:11:39.430 --> 01:11:42.210
shows we call The Dialogue, which is basically

01:11:42.210 --> 01:11:44.329
a chillin' chat, you know, with just various

01:11:44.329 --> 01:11:47.970
musicians and podcasters and you name it. And

01:11:47.970 --> 01:11:50.550
we happen to have Brian Colburn, a podcaster.

01:11:51.130 --> 01:11:52.189
I've heard of him. I think you've heard of him.

01:11:52.510 --> 01:11:54.729
He'll be on as well. So we're going to be just

01:11:54.729 --> 01:11:57.869
talking BS and talking rock and roll, talking

01:11:57.869 --> 01:11:59.670
books. And you gave me some of the books that

01:11:59.670 --> 01:12:02.130
you have read, that you love, that you want to

01:12:02.130 --> 01:12:03.829
read, that you would like to see written. So

01:12:03.829 --> 01:12:05.890
it's going to be fun. It's a great show and I'm

01:12:05.890 --> 01:12:07.909
excited to be an upcoming guest. So thank you

01:12:07.909 --> 01:12:10.829
so much for having me be a part of that as well.

01:12:11.130 --> 01:12:14.789
But with that, Eric, you get the pleasure or

01:12:14.789 --> 01:12:17.850
pain, depending on how you look at it, of kicking

01:12:17.850 --> 01:12:21.670
off Side B. We got 12 more. Let's see what we

01:12:21.670 --> 01:12:24.670
got here. Boy, oh boy. The first track on side

01:12:24.670 --> 01:12:26.710
two, it's got to be a banger, right? It's got

01:12:26.710 --> 01:12:28.710
to be something everybody knows. It's got to

01:12:28.710 --> 01:12:34.949
be a party anthem. So, Panama. Come on. We haven't

01:12:34.949 --> 01:12:38.149
put Panama on this mixtape yet. So let's put

01:12:38.149 --> 01:12:42.229
that bad boy in there. Track one, side B. Panama's

01:12:42.229 --> 01:12:44.890
one of those songs, it's kind of similar to Jump,

01:12:44.970 --> 01:12:47.380
where even those who... Don't know Van Halen

01:12:47.380 --> 01:12:49.579
all that much. They know Panama, like my nephew.

01:12:49.760 --> 01:12:52.520
He said he loved that song because he heard it

01:12:52.520 --> 01:12:56.680
on Superbad, right? The two cops are doing the

01:12:56.680 --> 01:12:58.979
donuts and they're playing Panama. It's a great

01:12:58.979 --> 01:13:01.800
party song. I mean, what more can you say about

01:13:01.800 --> 01:13:04.640
it? I mean, the video. The video. Forget it,

01:13:04.659 --> 01:13:06.840
man. Classic. One of the three classic videos

01:13:06.840 --> 01:13:09.659
from the 1984 album, Jump, Hot for Teacher, and

01:13:09.659 --> 01:13:14.060
Panama. But, you know, the guitar. Again, Eddie's,

01:13:14.079 --> 01:13:16.729
you know. What more can you say about the guy?

01:13:17.149 --> 01:13:18.869
Panama, this is a great riff, but, you know,

01:13:18.869 --> 01:13:21.529
then you got that great chemistry with Dave and

01:13:21.529 --> 01:13:24.270
you get the breakdown and Dave comes in, you

01:13:24.270 --> 01:13:26.289
know, going to reach down between the legs, ease

01:13:26.289 --> 01:13:28.489
the seat back. And that was a great thing about

01:13:28.489 --> 01:13:30.689
Van Halen and Dave era that, and they had their

01:13:30.689 --> 01:13:34.949
moments with Sammy too, but they really could

01:13:34.949 --> 01:13:38.569
just play with your emotions where they get you

01:13:38.569 --> 01:13:41.029
real fired up and then it slows down and then

01:13:41.029 --> 01:13:43.329
it builds back up again, like Unchained, you

01:13:43.329 --> 01:13:46.680
know, does that too. Panama, to me, is a perfect

01:13:46.680 --> 01:13:50.199
side starter. It could have been a starter for

01:13:50.199 --> 01:13:53.159
Side A, but I think Side A is perfect with Eruption

01:13:53.159 --> 01:13:54.859
and You Really Got Me because it introduced the

01:13:54.859 --> 01:13:57.479
band. But let's throw an ultimate party and kick

01:13:57.479 --> 01:14:01.640
it off with Panama. Love it. And honestly, during

01:14:01.640 --> 01:14:04.119
the David Lee Roth era, the band always had this.

01:14:04.680 --> 01:14:07.180
panache about their breakdowns if you will they

01:14:07.180 --> 01:14:10.340
took the very seriously especially dave because

01:14:10.340 --> 01:14:13.560
he always had his his moments during those songs

01:14:13.560 --> 01:14:16.840
where he would just kind of go on his rambles

01:14:16.840 --> 01:14:19.500
and rants and this one i feel like they really

01:14:19.500 --> 01:14:22.939
nailed it with this song and apparently now i'm

01:14:22.939 --> 01:14:24.939
not you would probably know this to be you could

01:14:24.939 --> 01:14:28.060
fact check me on this eric if i'm wrong but david

01:14:28.060 --> 01:14:31.699
lee roth was once accused by a reporter of singing

01:14:31.699 --> 01:14:35.640
only about women partying and fast cars. And

01:14:35.640 --> 01:14:38.520
at that point, all it did was make David Lee

01:14:38.520 --> 01:14:42.479
Roth realize that he never wrote a song about

01:14:42.479 --> 01:14:47.619
a fast car. So that's why we have Panama. Sir,

01:14:47.720 --> 01:14:50.140
you are correct. Could there be a more David

01:14:50.140 --> 01:14:52.659
Lee Roth response than that? I mean, really.

01:14:52.699 --> 01:14:55.220
I know. I know. I know. And there's always a

01:14:55.220 --> 01:14:57.640
question of, what is this song about? And then

01:14:57.640 --> 01:14:59.539
Dave would give different answers to different

01:14:59.539 --> 01:15:02.420
reporters because he just loved doing that. And,

01:15:02.460 --> 01:15:05.119
you know, it's like those breakdowns are a lot

01:15:05.119 --> 01:15:07.100
like, you know, when you think about Eddie, like

01:15:07.100 --> 01:15:09.359
we talked about eruption and he's just, you know,

01:15:09.359 --> 01:15:11.880
messing around. It's kind of like that's Dave's

01:15:11.880 --> 01:15:13.840
moment, you know, just to mess around and let's

01:15:13.840 --> 01:15:15.619
just see what comes off the top of his head.

01:15:15.699 --> 01:15:18.649
And boy, what's inside of that head, man? brain

01:15:18.649 --> 01:15:23.210
of his and um yeah it's it's uh panama is interesting

01:15:23.210 --> 01:15:26.229
because it's a it's part i really i think it's

01:15:26.229 --> 01:15:30.430
mostly inspired uh by uh there's a drag racer

01:15:30.430 --> 01:15:32.710
he he saw that the name of the car i think was

01:15:32.710 --> 01:15:36.010
called panama express and that's kind of the

01:15:36.010 --> 01:15:38.109
impetus behind the song but you know with dave

01:15:38.109 --> 01:15:40.170
it's kind of like an amalgamation of all these

01:15:40.170 --> 01:15:43.000
different things going through his mind but i

01:15:43.000 --> 01:15:44.739
think that's what he was going for but again

01:15:44.739 --> 01:15:47.420
intentionally not not writing about he was being

01:15:47.420 --> 01:15:49.439
criticized you know all he writes about are the

01:15:49.439 --> 01:15:53.020
same things you know so this was his his way

01:15:53.020 --> 01:15:56.520
of doing it you know dave as a lyricist you know

01:15:56.520 --> 01:15:59.439
at times could be so fun and sometimes head scratching

01:15:59.439 --> 01:16:02.119
and where's he coming up with his stuff but boy

01:16:02.119 --> 01:16:05.079
never a dull moment i mean i think you know jump

01:16:05.079 --> 01:16:08.600
was a little more i guess on the on the uh that

01:16:08.600 --> 01:16:12.189
was One that I guess you can't really say that

01:16:12.189 --> 01:16:14.409
he was really doing a whole lot of lyrical gymnastics

01:16:14.409 --> 01:16:18.189
on that one. But he was still it's just what

01:16:18.189 --> 01:16:20.189
he's coming up with. You know, it's like a guy

01:16:20.189 --> 01:16:22.510
jumping out of the window and he sees it on the

01:16:22.510 --> 01:16:24.989
newscast. He says, oh, I might as well jump.

01:16:25.329 --> 01:16:27.210
It's like, where does he come up with this stuff?

01:16:27.489 --> 01:16:30.729
And what's cool, too, is Eddie backs up his Lamborghini.

01:16:31.229 --> 01:16:33.789
To his studio and records, you know, he's revving

01:16:33.789 --> 01:16:35.590
up the engine. So that's where you get in that

01:16:35.590 --> 01:16:39.470
middle part. It's the hairdryer on stage in the

01:16:39.470 --> 01:16:43.569
video, but that's Ed's Lamborghini, which that's

01:16:43.569 --> 01:16:46.270
classic Ed again, just the innovative side of

01:16:46.270 --> 01:16:50.430
Eddie. Anyway, Panama, side B track one. And

01:16:50.430 --> 01:16:52.890
that song pretty much global. You hear it almost

01:16:52.890 --> 01:16:55.750
at every sporting event you go to when they're

01:16:55.750 --> 01:16:57.890
coming back from commercial or something on a

01:16:57.890 --> 01:17:02.310
NBA game, NFL game, hockey. It's a huge song.

01:17:02.449 --> 01:17:04.989
And also, I always thought of this song to the

01:17:04.989 --> 01:17:08.449
chorus when they yell or sing Panama itself.

01:17:08.890 --> 01:17:10.909
For that time frame, I don't know if anybody

01:17:10.909 --> 01:17:12.670
else will feel what I'm saying here, but that

01:17:12.670 --> 01:17:15.909
brings me almost like a Def Leppard, Brian Adams

01:17:15.909 --> 01:17:18.710
type -ish in that era where Mutt Lang worked

01:17:18.710 --> 01:17:21.329
with those two artists. Just how they say that.

01:17:21.409 --> 01:17:24.229
It sounds not mechanical and machine -like, but

01:17:24.229 --> 01:17:27.850
it's just so loud. Maybe that's what they were

01:17:27.850 --> 01:17:29.189
going for when they all look up at the camera

01:17:29.189 --> 01:17:32.539
and scream Panama. It comes across as just a

01:17:32.539 --> 01:17:37.100
huge, huge party sports anthem. Never been left

01:17:37.100 --> 01:17:39.899
out of a set list in any Van Halen concert. I

01:17:39.899 --> 01:17:41.840
mean, even during the Sammy years, they played

01:17:41.840 --> 01:17:44.899
it. Right. And now I have to follow that up.

01:17:45.300 --> 01:17:49.220
So I'm going to keep the energy high and I'm

01:17:49.220 --> 01:17:51.840
not going to jump singers. I'm going to stick

01:17:51.840 --> 01:17:55.560
with Dave for the second pick. And have I mentioned

01:17:55.560 --> 01:17:59.539
that I love album openers before? Yeah. I'm a

01:17:59.539 --> 01:18:01.520
sucker for it, but I also want to talk about

01:18:01.520 --> 01:18:03.399
a moment in time that's actually important to

01:18:03.399 --> 01:18:06.800
the band because it's the first time that Eddie

01:18:06.800 --> 01:18:10.670
Van Halen plays keyboards in a song. And that

01:18:10.670 --> 01:18:13.989
is the opening track on 1980s Women and Children

01:18:13.989 --> 01:18:17.869
First, End the Cradle Will Rock. So to me, you've

01:18:17.869 --> 01:18:20.409
got the energy of Panama, but then you want to

01:18:20.409 --> 01:18:22.750
keep the head bobbing for track two. You want

01:18:22.750 --> 01:18:25.390
that groove. You want that swagger. You want

01:18:25.390 --> 01:18:27.829
that energy, but you don't want it to be 180

01:18:27.829 --> 01:18:30.510
miles an hour. You want to be strutting down

01:18:30.510 --> 01:18:33.109
the street and End the Cradle Will Rock gives

01:18:33.109 --> 01:18:36.909
you just that. I love the fact that it's Eddie

01:18:36.909 --> 01:18:40.100
playing keyboards, but a lot of people. had no

01:18:40.100 --> 01:18:42.260
idea it was Eddie playing keyboards. They thought

01:18:42.260 --> 01:18:45.680
it was his guitar. It was a Wurlitzer electric

01:18:45.680 --> 01:18:51.260
piano being run through his amplifiers with flange

01:18:51.260 --> 01:18:55.659
effect on it. Again, innovation. This is stuff

01:18:55.659 --> 01:18:59.159
that was not being done. And to me, David Lee

01:18:59.159 --> 01:19:02.340
Roth's vocals on this track, his vocal leaps

01:19:02.340 --> 01:19:05.920
on this one are maybe some of his best. They

01:19:05.920 --> 01:19:09.100
have grit to them. You feel it. You feel it in

01:19:09.100 --> 01:19:11.739
this song. And to me, it's just a perfect way

01:19:11.739 --> 01:19:14.699
to follow up Panama. Eddie the Mad Scientist.

01:19:14.979 --> 01:19:18.899
The song's intro written using a guitar in the

01:19:18.899 --> 01:19:22.300
band's tour bus, two keys on the piano, broken

01:19:22.300 --> 01:19:24.319
while recording because Eddie was pounding on

01:19:24.319 --> 01:19:28.779
them so hard. The Mad Scientist. Yeah. And even

01:19:28.779 --> 01:19:31.880
the band gave him a little grief for this using

01:19:31.880 --> 01:19:34.729
keyboard, but you couldn't even tell. Yeah, this

01:19:34.729 --> 01:19:37.670
is another one of those must inclusions on the

01:19:37.670 --> 01:19:40.010
set list during the Dave years. Sammy wasn't

01:19:40.010 --> 01:19:41.550
going to touch this one. This wasn't the vibe

01:19:41.550 --> 01:19:44.829
of Sammy, but this is all Dave, you know. And,

01:19:44.890 --> 01:19:48.420
you know, it's perfect because this period. van

01:19:48.420 --> 01:19:50.199
halen the guys are still young and they got a

01:19:50.199 --> 01:19:52.560
lot of teenage fans and so it just hits home

01:19:52.560 --> 01:19:55.220
with all those teenagers you know like what's

01:19:55.220 --> 01:19:57.180
the other song on women and children first uh

01:19:57.180 --> 01:20:00.000
uh you know not into the golden rules you know

01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:02.840
loving to break the rules and that dave knew

01:20:02.840 --> 01:20:06.220
what he was doing with those and yes and the

01:20:06.220 --> 01:20:08.479
cradle will rock women and children first is

01:20:08.479 --> 01:20:11.279
maybe the most underrated album of the dave era

01:20:11.279 --> 01:20:14.380
now you don't hear as much off of that album

01:20:14.880 --> 01:20:16.859
as the rest of them. It's unfortunate. Yeah,

01:20:16.880 --> 01:20:18.579
it's a really good song. I couldn't believe it

01:20:18.579 --> 01:20:21.420
either when I thought that was keyboards as well.

01:20:21.479 --> 01:20:24.640
I'm like, wait, what? That's a song. Yeah, underrated

01:20:24.640 --> 01:20:27.279
song. It's a great opener. A very classic. You

01:20:27.279 --> 01:20:29.479
hear it quite a bit. Very popular. Can't go wrong

01:20:29.479 --> 01:20:32.420
with that one. I'd call it the keyboard gateway

01:20:32.420 --> 01:20:34.640
drug for a Van Halen track because he fooled

01:20:34.640 --> 01:20:38.720
all of us. All right, Pete, we're back to you

01:20:38.720 --> 01:20:41.399
now for track three. Okay, that one's kind of

01:20:41.399 --> 01:20:43.600
tough to follow up just because of the vibe of

01:20:43.600 --> 01:20:48.279
that one. I guess I'll put attitude up with,

01:20:48.300 --> 01:20:52.439
I guess, attitude. The hello, baby. Good enough.

01:20:52.699 --> 01:20:57.760
From 5150, switch back to Sam. I just love how

01:20:57.760 --> 01:21:02.159
this song sounds. I love the whole album, but

01:21:02.159 --> 01:21:04.260
this song in particular, I just think it's a

01:21:04.260 --> 01:21:09.060
great intro. And just to key up on that, it's

01:21:09.060 --> 01:21:13.100
unfortunate with this album. Because as you probably

01:21:13.100 --> 01:21:16.239
have heard, Eric, I want some action. When I

01:21:16.239 --> 01:21:19.539
hear that, I hear just a sliver of good enough.

01:21:19.640 --> 01:21:21.800
And it's like, man, I wish that could have made

01:21:21.800 --> 01:21:23.640
that. I just wanted it. This is off key, but

01:21:23.640 --> 01:21:25.220
I just wanted to say that too, because you're

01:21:25.220 --> 01:21:26.899
probably aware of that song. Every time I listen,

01:21:27.020 --> 01:21:29.399
I'm like, man, this song, it's got a little inch

01:21:29.399 --> 01:21:32.420
of good enough in it. But back to the song, there

01:21:32.420 --> 01:21:34.880
is so much energy in that song. And even when

01:21:34.880 --> 01:21:37.899
he's doing it with the circle. It's just such

01:21:37.899 --> 01:21:40.779
a good Bible of the baseline in there. And yeah,

01:21:40.979 --> 01:21:43.420
was he trying to be kind of like Dave with the,

01:21:43.460 --> 01:21:46.159
Hey waitress, you know, part of the spoken word

01:21:46.159 --> 01:21:49.500
part. Maybe I just love the energy and everything

01:21:49.500 --> 01:21:52.079
that's in this. So I think it's a great opener.

01:21:52.479 --> 01:21:55.279
So I'll pick good enough from the 51 50 album

01:21:55.279 --> 01:21:58.600
here. Good pick. And one of two songs written

01:21:58.600 --> 01:22:02.300
for Dave. And that was good enough in summer

01:22:02.300 --> 01:22:05.319
nights. Oh yeah, 100 % hear that. From the Hello

01:22:05.319 --> 01:22:08.699
Baby to the Breakdown, that's all classic Dave.

01:22:09.199 --> 01:22:13.180
But I feel like you couldn't have asked for a

01:22:13.180 --> 01:22:15.520
better introduction to the Sammy Hagar years

01:22:15.520 --> 01:22:19.020
than that song. Because that Hello Baby gives

01:22:19.020 --> 01:22:22.220
you just enough of what people expect from Van

01:22:22.220 --> 01:22:25.619
Halen, from the David Lee Roth years, to kind

01:22:25.619 --> 01:22:28.439
of be that transition point. And then throughout

01:22:28.439 --> 01:22:31.899
5150, they start weaving in the new sounds. Good

01:22:31.899 --> 01:22:35.199
Enough was the perfect song to open up 5150.

01:22:35.340 --> 01:22:38.140
And what can I say? Thank you, Pete, because

01:22:38.140 --> 01:22:40.380
that's one less album opener. I had that on my

01:22:40.380 --> 01:22:43.760
list because again, they nailed the album. I

01:22:43.760 --> 01:22:46.399
could have picked all album openers for my eight

01:22:46.399 --> 01:22:49.420
choices and they would all be damn good picks

01:22:49.420 --> 01:22:52.479
because they know how to open an album. So thank

01:22:52.479 --> 01:22:55.020
you for that. And with that, Eric, we're back

01:22:55.020 --> 01:23:00.479
to you for track four. Okay. You know, I think

01:23:00.479 --> 01:23:03.779
it might be time. Well, what's better to follow

01:23:03.779 --> 01:23:07.039
up good enough lyrically than with Beautiful

01:23:07.039 --> 01:23:10.819
Girls? Nice. All right. Beautiful Girls, Diamond

01:23:10.819 --> 01:23:16.100
Dave, Toes in the Sand, Drink in My Hand. This

01:23:16.100 --> 01:23:18.359
is such a great party song, and this is one of

01:23:18.359 --> 01:23:21.579
those songs I think I'm not going tired of hearing,

01:23:21.680 --> 01:23:23.600
even though I've heard it and played it on the

01:23:23.600 --> 01:23:27.250
radio many times. this is classic diamond dave

01:23:27.250 --> 01:23:29.449
and this is where you see the difference lyrically

01:23:29.449 --> 01:23:31.170
and dave could be a little more creative good

01:23:31.170 --> 01:23:34.409
enough sammy's you know me too movement i don't

01:23:34.409 --> 01:23:36.729
know if that song would work so well these days

01:23:36.729 --> 01:23:39.890
right but beautiful girls yeah um just that image

01:23:39.890 --> 01:23:41.810
you know dave was creating that whole image of

01:23:41.810 --> 01:23:45.289
of california and the beach and the summer and

01:23:45.289 --> 01:23:49.390
and and just eddie's got that great riff yeah

01:23:49.390 --> 01:23:51.689
i think it's a good follow -up to good enough

01:23:51.689 --> 01:23:54.640
keeping the party going here You know, everybody's

01:23:54.640 --> 01:23:56.939
got a good buzz on now. We're inside B here.

01:23:57.039 --> 01:23:59.800
We got to keep it going. This is essential classic

01:23:59.800 --> 01:24:03.060
Van Halen. Yeah, great pick. That's a classic

01:24:03.060 --> 01:24:05.779
song. It's something you'd play at every party,

01:24:05.899 --> 01:24:08.460
keep everybody in a good mood and things. If

01:24:08.460 --> 01:24:10.439
I'm not mistaken, wasn't that on the SNL skit?

01:24:10.439 --> 01:24:13.260
I believe it was Chris Farley and Adam Sandler.

01:24:13.300 --> 01:24:17.199
I mean, you hit SNL, you know, made it by then,

01:24:17.260 --> 01:24:20.619
of course, years later. Yeah, great song. I love

01:24:20.619 --> 01:24:23.220
the guitar riff in it. And again, the backing

01:24:23.220 --> 01:24:25.880
vocals, the backing vocals, the backing vocals

01:24:25.880 --> 01:24:29.140
on all, especially those early records. Oh, my

01:24:29.140 --> 01:24:31.939
gosh. They're so good. Huge part of the Van Halen

01:24:31.939 --> 01:24:35.659
sound. Could not agree more. This is what Van

01:24:35.659 --> 01:24:38.640
Halen was all about during those first couple

01:24:38.640 --> 01:24:42.260
of years was that attitude. And Beautiful Girls

01:24:42.260 --> 01:24:44.819
nails that attitude. And coming out of Good Enough,

01:24:44.939 --> 01:24:47.500
you feel that vibe. We're still in that vibe.

01:24:48.199 --> 01:24:51.659
So here we are. I'm on track five now for Side

01:24:51.659 --> 01:24:55.119
B. The last time we've talked about what could

01:24:55.119 --> 01:24:57.819
arguably be one of the greatest debut albums

01:24:57.819 --> 01:25:00.319
of all time was right at the beginning, the one

01:25:00.319 --> 01:25:02.760
-two punch of Eruption and You Really Got Me.

01:25:03.039 --> 01:25:06.140
So I feel like I'm doing a disservice to not

01:25:06.140 --> 01:25:08.420
go back to Van Halen one. And obviously every

01:25:08.420 --> 01:25:11.760
song on there is a winner. So I'm just going

01:25:11.760 --> 01:25:14.460
to go with Eddie Van Halen's two -chord punk

01:25:14.460 --> 01:25:17.199
rock parody. Ain't talking about love because

01:25:17.199 --> 01:25:20.079
my hard rock band used to cover it. I love the

01:25:20.079 --> 01:25:23.659
song because let's be honest, it is two chords.

01:25:23.779 --> 01:25:26.260
And you think to yourself, how can anybody make

01:25:26.260 --> 01:25:28.600
two chords work? Eddie Van Halen can make two

01:25:28.600 --> 01:25:32.079
chords work. And it was one of the few David

01:25:32.079 --> 01:25:34.739
Lee Roth era songs. I think there's only six

01:25:34.739 --> 01:25:38.859
or maybe seven in total that Sammy was willing

01:25:38.859 --> 01:25:41.779
to sing during his tenure. So that has to speak

01:25:41.779 --> 01:25:45.529
to something. Ain't talk about love. Again, Eddie

01:25:45.529 --> 01:25:49.369
downplaying his skills, didn't consider it to

01:25:49.369 --> 01:25:53.949
be good enough to show his bandmates. He said

01:25:53.949 --> 01:25:56.689
it was just something, it was just a parody,

01:25:56.810 --> 01:25:59.689
like you say, of punk rock and a stupid thing,

01:25:59.850 --> 01:26:05.270
he called it. Man, that guitar solo is one of

01:26:05.270 --> 01:26:08.149
the greatest in rock history, doubled in overdubs

01:26:08.149 --> 01:26:11.689
with an electric sitar. Yeah, you cannot, I mean,

01:26:11.710 --> 01:26:14.630
this would have been, I think, You would have

01:26:14.630 --> 01:26:17.689
been in trouble, Ryan, if we left this off of

01:26:17.689 --> 01:26:20.090
a Van Halen mixtape. Yeah, I always think about

01:26:20.090 --> 01:26:22.689
that. I think about people emailing me saying,

01:26:22.890 --> 01:26:25.949
how the hell did you do a vent without this?

01:26:26.149 --> 01:26:29.430
And I already know no matter what 24 songs we

01:26:29.430 --> 01:26:31.470
pick, somebody's going to message me, how did

01:26:31.470 --> 01:26:34.829
you leave off? And the only answer is, you're

01:26:34.829 --> 01:26:38.529
right. Yes. Just thank God that nobody knows

01:26:38.529 --> 01:26:40.369
your home address, right? Because if that wasn't

01:26:40.369 --> 01:26:44.680
on there. Pete, ain't talking about love. Yeah,

01:26:44.739 --> 01:26:46.520
I remember when my brother would play that thing.

01:26:46.720 --> 01:26:50.640
Man, like, wow, that guitar just sounds so raw

01:26:50.640 --> 01:26:53.779
on there. It's like, man, are you bleeding when

01:26:53.779 --> 01:26:56.020
you're playing that thing? It just, it's so in

01:26:56.020 --> 01:26:58.520
your face. It's really, it's great. And I'll

01:26:58.520 --> 01:27:02.880
never forget when I was out at a club, we're

01:27:02.880 --> 01:27:05.300
on the dance floor and all of a sudden you kind

01:27:05.300 --> 01:27:07.760
of hear somebody. sounded like an old lady kind

01:27:07.760 --> 01:27:09.840
of talking in the background and somebody yelled

01:27:09.840 --> 01:27:11.720
something and then all of a sudden you hear eddie

01:27:11.720 --> 01:27:13.600
van halen playing this guitar i'm like they're

01:27:13.600 --> 01:27:15.840
playing van halen i'm like what is this is this

01:27:15.840 --> 01:27:18.039
a remix when it turned out it was what a two

01:27:18.039 --> 01:27:22.399
live crew song that they had sampled i was like

01:27:22.399 --> 01:27:24.939
whoa i'm it's like when home i told my brother

01:27:24.939 --> 01:27:27.640
like did you know that they sampled van halen

01:27:27.640 --> 01:27:30.239
song for one of these songs and i played it for

01:27:30.239 --> 01:27:33.770
him it's interesting but uh Yeah, great song.

01:27:33.909 --> 01:27:36.930
But that whole album, it just sounds, even from

01:27:36.930 --> 01:27:38.390
the song, it sounds so much different. It's just

01:27:38.390 --> 01:27:42.289
so raw, like, unbiltered, but clean at the same

01:27:42.289 --> 01:27:45.850
time. Excellent pick. Like you said, if you wouldn't,

01:27:45.869 --> 01:27:48.029
you know, they'd come look at the... Well, and

01:27:48.029 --> 01:27:51.270
then you have to talk about it. Hip -hop loved

01:27:51.270 --> 01:27:54.329
Van Halen 1. You had two live crew pulling Ain't

01:27:54.329 --> 01:27:57.069
Talkin' About Love, and then you had Tone Loke.

01:27:57.609 --> 01:28:00.630
who took the drum beat and guitar riff from Jamie's

01:28:00.630 --> 01:28:04.069
crying and made it into a massive hit wild thing.

01:28:04.270 --> 01:28:07.810
And apparently the band sued him and won $180

01:28:07.810 --> 01:28:11.189
,000, which for the time seems like a lot of

01:28:11.189 --> 01:28:14.489
money, but wild thing is still a massive hip

01:28:14.489 --> 01:28:18.210
hop classic. And I think Van Halen was being

01:28:18.210 --> 01:28:21.590
nice to him at that point because sent a message

01:28:21.590 --> 01:28:24.329
though. Yes. Years to come. Cause the beastie

01:28:24.329 --> 01:28:26.829
boys was doing a lot of sampling on Paul's boutique

01:28:26.829 --> 01:28:29.199
and Nobody knew that that was going to blow up

01:28:29.199 --> 01:28:31.779
like it did. And so the artists were like, wait

01:28:31.779 --> 01:28:35.000
a minute, you're using my music. I think you

01:28:35.000 --> 01:28:36.960
owe us a few bucks for that. A couple dollars.

01:28:37.279 --> 01:28:41.989
Vanilla Ice with his comical excuse for... No,

01:28:42.029 --> 01:28:45.050
I didn't take Queens under pressure. Hers is

01:28:45.050 --> 01:28:47.149
doom, doom, doom, doom, doom, doom. Mine is doom,

01:28:47.210 --> 01:28:49.170
doom, doom, doom, doom, doom. Doom, doom, doom,

01:28:49.270 --> 01:28:53.470
doom, doom. That's right. It's in there. You're

01:28:53.470 --> 01:28:55.229
right, dude. It's a totally different song. You

01:28:55.229 --> 01:28:59.090
fooled the whole world. Yeah. Pete, we're back

01:28:59.090 --> 01:29:02.670
to you for track six. We're back to track six.

01:29:02.890 --> 01:29:05.270
Okay, so we ended up with Ain't Talking About

01:29:05.270 --> 01:29:09.010
Love. Yeah, I have, like you said, Eric, there's

01:29:09.010 --> 01:29:12.229
a list of favorites here. There's one staring

01:29:12.229 --> 01:29:15.649
me in the face as just this complete outlier.

01:29:16.210 --> 01:29:19.149
People that kind of dropped off listening to

01:29:19.149 --> 01:29:22.390
the band after the Dave years were over. I don't

01:29:22.390 --> 01:29:24.550
know if they would know. I kind of want to put

01:29:24.550 --> 01:29:28.170
that in my pocket. One that I want to see on

01:29:28.170 --> 01:29:32.890
here that maybe the casual fan won't know about.

01:29:32.970 --> 01:29:35.130
I kind of put it in there with like the little

01:29:35.130 --> 01:29:39.090
guitars type songs in here, the category. One

01:29:39.090 --> 01:29:42.210
song that I just think. It doesn't receive enough

01:29:42.210 --> 01:29:45.409
recognition except for more of the hardcore fans.

01:29:45.649 --> 01:29:48.109
Awful Women and Children first. It's called In

01:29:48.109 --> 01:29:51.890
a Simple Rhyme. And I love that song. When you

01:29:51.890 --> 01:29:54.310
listen at the breakdown at the end with Michael

01:29:54.310 --> 01:29:58.729
Anthony and Ed with the backing vocals and you

01:29:58.729 --> 01:30:02.909
can hear an angel sing. It's just such a spectacular

01:30:02.909 --> 01:30:05.649
song. But then again, kind of like some of their

01:30:05.649 --> 01:30:07.850
other songs, all of a sudden it takes off again

01:30:07.850 --> 01:30:11.390
like a musical explosion. And then at the very

01:30:11.390 --> 01:30:14.229
end, it kind of calms and lulls you down again

01:30:14.229 --> 01:30:17.069
into what? Into growth. What would be or not

01:30:17.069 --> 01:30:19.789
be, I guess, growth. But I always loved that

01:30:19.789 --> 01:30:21.789
song and I would play it and some people would

01:30:21.789 --> 01:30:24.890
say, well, what is this? It's not like this hidden

01:30:24.890 --> 01:30:26.810
track. It's on there. You just got to listen

01:30:26.810 --> 01:30:28.550
to the whole album. But it started to blab on.

01:30:28.649 --> 01:30:30.890
But for me, it's in a simple rhyme from Women

01:30:30.890 --> 01:30:33.470
and Children first. It's like, how do you describe

01:30:33.470 --> 01:30:37.149
that to somebody? Yeah, that's as close, I guess,

01:30:37.170 --> 01:30:39.149
to a ballad as you get during the Dave years.

01:30:40.380 --> 01:30:43.159
maybe the closest of them all, but in a simple

01:30:43.159 --> 01:30:45.819
rhyme, man. It's just, yeah, it's the angelic

01:30:45.819 --> 01:30:52.220
harmonies of Eddie and Michael Anthony. And that

01:30:52.220 --> 01:30:55.460
is such a special ingredient to that classic

01:30:55.460 --> 01:30:58.579
Van Halen sound. Both eras, you know, Sammy and

01:30:58.579 --> 01:31:01.000
Dave, but in a simple rhyme, man. You're so right,

01:31:01.119 --> 01:31:04.060
Pete. And this is just one of those songs that's

01:31:04.060 --> 01:31:07.909
overlooked, you know. Like I call them the lost,

01:31:07.930 --> 01:31:10.689
the last or the least mentioned, you know, that's

01:31:10.689 --> 01:31:13.310
on the list in a simple rhyme. And I've made

01:31:13.310 --> 01:31:16.449
a note here, harmonies. That was the first thing

01:31:16.449 --> 01:31:19.689
that you think of harmonies. Beautiful song.

01:31:20.029 --> 01:31:22.710
Yeah. And I was going to say, I think I mentioned

01:31:22.710 --> 01:31:25.489
earlier that there was no quote unquote ballads

01:31:25.489 --> 01:31:27.430
during the David Lee Roth years, but Eric, you

01:31:27.430 --> 01:31:30.369
took the words right out of my mouth. I'll wait.

01:31:30.470 --> 01:31:33.189
And in a simple rhyme are the closest you're

01:31:33.189 --> 01:31:37.159
ever going to get. To a Dave ballad. And then

01:31:37.159 --> 01:31:40.039
as far as I'm concerned. The first time I ever

01:31:40.039 --> 01:31:43.779
heard David Lee Roth do a ballad. And I'm using

01:31:43.779 --> 01:31:46.460
big quote marks with that. Would be damn good

01:31:46.460 --> 01:31:49.260
off the Skyscraper album. Because to me that

01:31:49.260 --> 01:31:53.079
felt like a tried and true ballad. Love that

01:31:53.079 --> 01:31:55.439
song. Yeah. One of Dave's best. It's a great

01:31:55.439 --> 01:31:59.159
song. It's probably my second favorite on Skyscraper

01:31:59.159 --> 01:32:01.220
as a whole. It's just such a beautiful tune.

01:32:01.939 --> 01:32:04.770
Awesome. so with that eric we're back to you

01:32:04.770 --> 01:32:07.390
for track seven yes i think here we go now with

01:32:07.390 --> 01:32:09.569
same with side a you get to that middle portion

01:32:09.569 --> 01:32:11.630
here and we're taking it down a notch a little

01:32:11.630 --> 01:32:13.909
bit so i think a good follow -up to in a simple

01:32:13.909 --> 01:32:16.430
rhyme is a song that you just can't leave out

01:32:16.430 --> 01:32:18.710
because it's real important to the history of

01:32:18.710 --> 01:32:21.090
van halen and how they were able to make that

01:32:21.090 --> 01:32:25.069
transition into the 90s as tastes start to change

01:32:25.069 --> 01:32:30.170
right now it's so important The song itself is

01:32:30.170 --> 01:32:33.630
a classic. It's brilliant. It's a song that Eddie

01:32:33.630 --> 01:32:35.930
had that piano part for a while, going back to

01:32:35.930 --> 01:32:40.270
the mid-'80s, yeah. And what it did for the band

01:32:40.270 --> 01:32:43.590
was it just gave them that legitimacy as you

01:32:43.590 --> 01:32:46.970
get into the 90s. It was something that was just

01:32:46.970 --> 01:32:49.449
completely on its own. It just had a sound of

01:32:49.449 --> 01:32:51.829
its own. It still sounded like Van Halen, but

01:32:51.829 --> 01:32:53.550
it wasn't something that they had ever done before,

01:32:53.630 --> 01:32:57.189
lyrically as well. It wasn't a huge hit single

01:32:57.189 --> 01:33:00.430
on the radio, but once it blew up on MTV, that's

01:33:00.430 --> 01:33:03.689
when it became a staple on radio. To this day,

01:33:03.710 --> 01:33:05.890
you'll hear it right now. I think that's what's

01:33:05.890 --> 01:33:07.930
shocking about that song. People automatically

01:33:07.930 --> 01:33:10.590
assume it's one of the band's biggest hits. It

01:33:10.590 --> 01:33:13.529
only reached 55. It wasn't even a top 40 hit.

01:33:13.649 --> 01:33:16.890
But as soon as you say Van Hagar, people always

01:33:16.890 --> 01:33:20.630
go to that song. And I think that was MTV didn't

01:33:20.630 --> 01:33:23.630
necessarily define the charts as much as we,

01:33:23.729 --> 01:33:27.449
the people that grew up during the MTV era, when

01:33:27.449 --> 01:33:30.770
they played music videos were extremely influenced

01:33:30.770 --> 01:33:34.670
by MTV more than the radio at the time, more

01:33:34.670 --> 01:33:37.270
than radio was ever willing to admit. And this

01:33:37.270 --> 01:33:39.770
is one of the prime examples of that because

01:33:39.770 --> 01:33:43.789
to us, it's shocking to find out that it only

01:33:43.789 --> 01:33:46.729
reached 55. How, how was that not a number one

01:33:46.729 --> 01:33:51.260
hit? Yeah, and then it's outlasted the songs

01:33:51.260 --> 01:33:54.300
that were hits at the time. Like Run Around,

01:33:54.560 --> 01:33:56.699
you don't hear that nearly as much as you hear

01:33:56.699 --> 01:33:58.399
right now, and Run Around was the bigger hit

01:33:58.399 --> 01:34:01.479
at the time. It just has a staying power to it.

01:34:01.579 --> 01:34:05.220
It doesn't sound of a time, of a specific time.

01:34:05.420 --> 01:34:07.199
You don't listen to it and say, oh, that's 1991.

01:34:08.079 --> 01:34:10.979
It's just a song that sounds great no matter

01:34:10.979 --> 01:34:12.720
when you listen to it. And one other thing I'll

01:34:12.720 --> 01:34:15.979
say about it, the piano part. Just the piano

01:34:15.979 --> 01:34:19.119
riff is the closest thing to an Eddie Van Halen

01:34:19.119 --> 01:34:23.159
guitar riff on piano, because there's a part

01:34:23.159 --> 01:34:27.140
of my mind that could hear that on guitar. Yeah.

01:34:27.300 --> 01:34:30.119
And it would still work. But for Sammy Hagar,

01:34:30.239 --> 01:34:33.060
the piano definitely leans more towards. But

01:34:33.060 --> 01:34:35.279
if he came up with that riff and played it on

01:34:35.279 --> 01:34:37.859
guitar, it would have still made a great Van

01:34:37.859 --> 01:34:40.039
Halen song. Yeah. Wouldn't that be interesting

01:34:40.039 --> 01:34:43.539
to hear? Yeah. Cool. Back in high school. When

01:34:43.539 --> 01:34:46.720
this came out, I worked at a grocery store, and

01:34:46.720 --> 01:34:49.359
the first thing I think of is all of the pallets

01:34:49.359 --> 01:34:54.260
of Crystal Pepsi that I had to stack. Every time

01:34:54.260 --> 01:34:56.619
I do it, I think of the commercial with the two

01:34:56.619 --> 01:34:59.539
ice cubes coming and clashing on everything and

01:34:59.539 --> 01:35:02.539
the water, you know, how dramatic it was. You

01:35:02.539 --> 01:35:05.640
know, this song is interesting considering in

01:35:05.640 --> 01:35:10.420
radio, I was told when it would come on to select,

01:35:10.619 --> 01:35:13.880
we had two parts to that. the main version and

01:35:13.880 --> 01:35:16.159
then the second version because the main version

01:35:16.159 --> 01:35:19.260
so I worked on a top 40 radio station the main

01:35:19.260 --> 01:35:22.239
version was too quote unquote too rock and roll

01:35:22.239 --> 01:35:26.560
so we had to play version two which if serves

01:35:26.560 --> 01:35:29.640
me correct pretty much the guitar solo was taken

01:35:29.640 --> 01:35:33.020
out and instead it was just keyboards in there

01:35:33.439 --> 01:35:36.279
omitted the guitar solo talk about neutering

01:35:36.279 --> 01:35:39.720
van halen really i mean it was religious you

01:35:39.720 --> 01:35:42.680
do not remove eddie's guitar yeah that might

01:35:42.680 --> 01:35:45.640
be on youtube i could see that meme where it's

01:35:45.640 --> 01:35:47.800
just a guy with his fingers in the air one does

01:35:47.800 --> 01:35:51.439
not remove yes eddie van halen's guitar right

01:35:51.439 --> 01:35:55.399
well following up a massive hit like right now

01:35:55.399 --> 01:35:57.960
i want to stay we're kind of going down a little

01:35:57.960 --> 01:36:00.340
bit but i want to start picking it up but i want

01:36:00.340 --> 01:36:06.159
it to be big massive actually and when i think

01:36:06.159 --> 01:36:09.720
massive i think of bruce fairbairn's production

01:36:09.720 --> 01:36:13.539
on balance because that is a massive sounding

01:36:13.539 --> 01:36:15.840
album you said earlier in the night you don't

01:36:15.840 --> 01:36:17.819
know how the remaster could sound any better

01:36:17.819 --> 01:36:20.899
because the album is just so massive and i'm

01:36:20.899 --> 01:36:24.180
gonna go with the song that was the original

01:36:24.180 --> 01:36:26.300
working title for the album have i mentioned

01:36:26.300 --> 01:36:29.319
i'm a sucker for album opening tracks we've talked

01:36:29.319 --> 01:36:32.460
about it before but I am going with the seventh

01:36:32.460 --> 01:36:37.300
seal. Hell yeah. This is a massive, massive track.

01:36:37.399 --> 01:36:41.460
It has that pound cake drive to it. That John

01:36:41.460 --> 01:36:44.819
bottom mask led Zeppelin style drumming. And

01:36:44.819 --> 01:36:48.119
in my opinion, this song contains some of my

01:36:48.119 --> 01:36:51.760
favorite lyrics from Sammy Hagar. You give this

01:36:51.760 --> 01:36:54.920
Armageddon vibe to this song, the tension that's

01:36:54.920 --> 01:36:59.380
being added. And dare I say this. This song shows

01:36:59.380 --> 01:37:04.539
a refined side of Eddie refined using big, big

01:37:04.539 --> 01:37:08.800
quote marks because the guitar work in the seventh

01:37:08.800 --> 01:37:12.399
steel is still ridiculously complex, but it's

01:37:12.399 --> 01:37:16.420
more complex in terms of chord structures than

01:37:16.420 --> 01:37:21.279
it is in soloing pyrotechnics. Here's a prime

01:37:21.279 --> 01:37:24.460
example of Eddie Van Halen playing to the strength

01:37:24.460 --> 01:37:30.010
of the song. This is one of the most underrated

01:37:30.010 --> 01:37:34.090
Van Halen songs in their entire history. It's

01:37:34.090 --> 01:37:36.770
so big. It's so massive. They almost named the

01:37:36.770 --> 01:37:40.050
damn album after it. How this one wasn't a big

01:37:40.050 --> 01:37:42.750
hit for the band at this time still blows my

01:37:42.750 --> 01:37:46.010
mind. Excellent song playing to the song. That's

01:37:46.010 --> 01:37:49.229
what he was doing. And the tone on that album,

01:37:49.289 --> 01:37:53.369
his guitar tone on that album. is thick and it's

01:37:53.369 --> 01:37:56.109
as massive sounding as alex's drums and credit

01:37:56.109 --> 01:37:58.289
to bruce fairbairn on that the late great bruce

01:37:58.289 --> 01:38:01.430
fairbairn yep yep and a seventh seal what an

01:38:01.430 --> 01:38:04.369
album opener and you hear though the monks chanting

01:38:04.369 --> 01:38:08.250
and all of a sudden alex boom you know just here

01:38:08.250 --> 01:38:11.109
we go and i think they opened the tour with that

01:38:11.109 --> 01:38:14.270
song if i'm not mistaken or maybe not yeah they

01:38:14.270 --> 01:38:16.850
did yeah yeah yeah good way to follow right now

01:38:16.850 --> 01:38:19.750
i like it yeah great pick like i mentioned earlier

01:38:20.380 --> 01:38:22.859
first concert i ever went to was that tour and

01:38:22.859 --> 01:38:25.640
again said the monks were there in minneapolis

01:38:25.640 --> 01:38:28.239
and they came out they chanted for about 10 minutes

01:38:28.239 --> 01:38:32.800
and it was incredible and like you said not knowing

01:38:32.800 --> 01:38:36.180
i was an idiot i didn't take earplugs and it

01:38:36.180 --> 01:38:38.619
was inside the target center and when alex hit

01:38:38.619 --> 01:38:42.560
that bass drum And I felt my guts rattle. My

01:38:42.560 --> 01:38:44.500
buddy looked at me and he goes, I think we made

01:38:44.500 --> 01:38:48.199
a big mistake. I couldn't hear decent for like

01:38:48.199 --> 01:38:49.960
three or four days after that. I thought I had

01:38:49.960 --> 01:38:52.920
permanent hearing damage. Yeah, that's a very

01:38:52.920 --> 01:38:55.739
powerful song. Lyrics, you know, on things dark.

01:38:55.819 --> 01:38:58.279
It's a great song. Another one that doesn't get

01:38:58.279 --> 01:39:00.220
listened to maybe as much as it should. But,

01:39:00.220 --> 01:39:03.079
you know, being an opener for the album, it definitely

01:39:03.079 --> 01:39:05.479
helps. But just a great sound on that album.

01:39:05.680 --> 01:39:08.689
Such a heavy, crisp, clear sound. Little, little

01:39:08.689 --> 01:39:11.149
did we know the guys were not getting along at

01:39:11.149 --> 01:39:14.310
that point. Yeah. Well, Pete, you have to follow

01:39:14.310 --> 01:39:17.670
it up now. What do you got? So that one, that's

01:39:17.670 --> 01:39:21.189
heavy. And my quote unquote, my picks, what I

01:39:21.189 --> 01:39:25.510
have left, I'm going to do meant go and do something

01:39:25.510 --> 01:39:28.470
I mentioned earlier. I'm going to go away. I'm

01:39:28.470 --> 01:39:31.289
going way out here. Everybody else wants, you

01:39:31.289 --> 01:39:33.560
know, unchained. feel your love tonight several

01:39:33.560 --> 01:39:35.800
that we probably missed but because that's so

01:39:35.800 --> 01:39:39.260
heavy i want to match heavy with heavy but on

01:39:39.260 --> 01:39:41.899
the dave side and one that people might not be

01:39:41.899 --> 01:39:44.779
as familiar with love them all i says and let

01:39:44.779 --> 01:39:48.060
cupid sort them out i'm gonna go with as is from

01:39:48.060 --> 01:39:51.520
a different kind of truth amen brother yeah what

01:39:51.520 --> 01:39:55.220
a crazy song amen to that i was wondering when

01:39:55.220 --> 01:39:57.939
we were going to get to something post me wise

01:39:57.939 --> 01:40:01.630
magic so awesome As is. That album just came

01:40:01.630 --> 01:40:03.930
out kind of at a bad time, really. Not for Van

01:40:03.930 --> 01:40:07.250
Halen fans per se, but everybody at Van Halen.

01:40:07.289 --> 01:40:09.310
I'd call into the Hard Rock channel there in

01:40:09.310 --> 01:40:12.409
Illinois and I'd request She's the Woman. Like,

01:40:12.449 --> 01:40:16.189
oh yeah, we'll get to it. And at the time, other

01:40:16.189 --> 01:40:19.229
things were playing much more. And man, these

01:40:19.229 --> 01:40:21.250
kids need to hear what these guys can do. They're

01:40:21.250 --> 01:40:23.489
old and they can still rock with the best of

01:40:23.489 --> 01:40:26.689
them. But that beat in that song kind of reminds

01:40:26.689 --> 01:40:30.489
me of... Hot for teacher -ass kind of, I mean,

01:40:30.510 --> 01:40:32.909
Alex is just going, I don't know, on those drums

01:40:32.909 --> 01:40:35.750
there. And like you had said earlier here, in

01:40:35.750 --> 01:40:37.529
the one song, Dave kind of goes into that spoken

01:40:37.529 --> 01:40:40.489
word, that Henry Rollins -like, that spoken word

01:40:40.489 --> 01:40:43.970
part. I just love it when Dave does kind of stuff

01:40:43.970 --> 01:40:46.850
like that. And, you know, with limits, but yeah,

01:40:46.850 --> 01:40:49.250
I liked it. Yeah, and I believe that starts with

01:40:49.250 --> 01:40:52.770
you hear Alex going, one, two, three, four, one,

01:40:52.930 --> 01:40:57.569
two, three. I think that's him shouting. Boom.

01:40:58.369 --> 01:41:01.810
Yeah, that massive opening. As Is, it's so great

01:41:01.810 --> 01:41:04.930
that you chose that because that's kind of risen

01:41:04.930 --> 01:41:07.729
above all the other tracks with the exception

01:41:07.729 --> 01:41:12.189
maybe of She's the Woman. I would say As Is along

01:41:12.189 --> 01:41:15.050
with Blood and Fire, probably my two favorites

01:41:15.050 --> 01:41:17.890
from A Different Kind of Truth. Yeah, As Is,

01:41:17.949 --> 01:41:20.390
a great choice because I think it's important

01:41:20.390 --> 01:41:23.350
when you're giving somebody a mixtape to introduce

01:41:23.350 --> 01:41:27.550
them to some songs. that people may not be aware

01:41:27.550 --> 01:41:31.090
of from all eras have we covered every album

01:41:31.090 --> 01:41:33.909
not yet because there's been nothing from three

01:41:33.909 --> 01:41:37.609
oh yes and we only have three songs left but

01:41:37.609 --> 01:41:40.729
before we get to those last three i'll just say

01:41:40.729 --> 01:41:44.250
this i will slightly disagree with you eric as

01:41:44.250 --> 01:41:46.989
chinatown does sit up there for me on a different

01:41:46.989 --> 01:41:51.960
kind of truth because as a parent i love seeing

01:41:51.960 --> 01:41:55.319
Wolfie and Eddie do that breakdown together as

01:41:55.319 --> 01:41:59.819
a father, to me, that is ridiculously powerful

01:41:59.819 --> 01:42:02.539
father and son jamming together. It's a beautiful

01:42:02.539 --> 01:42:05.439
moment and you can just hear. And if you were

01:42:05.439 --> 01:42:09.500
there in person, see the joy in both Eddie and

01:42:09.500 --> 01:42:12.359
Wolfie's face playing that part together. And

01:42:12.359 --> 01:42:15.560
I'm so glad that we've been able to include Wolfgang

01:42:15.560 --> 01:42:18.079
in the discussion in some facet tonight, because

01:42:18.079 --> 01:42:21.760
I don't care what anybody says. I love his, first

01:42:21.760 --> 01:42:24.880
two solo albums. I love the fact he's playing

01:42:24.880 --> 01:42:27.119
all the instruments. I think he is a ridiculous

01:42:27.119 --> 01:42:30.220
talent, but I want people to stop telling him

01:42:30.220 --> 01:42:34.439
to try to be Van Halen. Let him do his own thing.

01:42:34.619 --> 01:42:38.800
He did his Van Halen on Chinatown on a different

01:42:38.800 --> 01:42:41.579
kind of truth. Yeah. And by the way, that second

01:42:41.579 --> 01:42:43.840
mammoth album, I think is even better than the

01:42:43.840 --> 01:42:46.260
first. I love the new album. I love them both.

01:42:46.359 --> 01:42:49.199
I mean, he is going to be, if he continues down

01:42:49.199 --> 01:42:52.829
this path, one of the biggest rock bands. I mean,

01:42:52.850 --> 01:42:55.430
come on, between opening the Guns N' Roses tours,

01:42:55.550 --> 01:42:58.270
the Metallica tours, he's getting a lot of exposure

01:42:58.270 --> 01:43:01.510
and a lot of people are going, man, Eddie Van

01:43:01.510 --> 01:43:04.350
Halen's kid does modern music really well because

01:43:04.350 --> 01:43:06.750
I think people were automatically assuming it

01:43:06.750 --> 01:43:09.789
was going to be Van Halen Jr. And it's not. And

01:43:09.789 --> 01:43:13.310
I love that. Yeah, you talk about getting emotional.

01:43:13.390 --> 01:43:16.590
I saw him open for Seven Dust and Alter Bridge

01:43:16.590 --> 01:43:20.619
here in Connecticut. they zoom in on him. So

01:43:20.619 --> 01:43:23.180
on the big screen, you could see at certain times,

01:43:23.239 --> 01:43:26.779
he does show you flashes of his dad and he does

01:43:26.779 --> 01:43:29.100
the finger tapping and things like that. And

01:43:29.100 --> 01:43:31.579
I'm watching that and you see the EVH guitar.

01:43:32.380 --> 01:43:34.340
And I just thought, man, I remember when he was

01:43:34.340 --> 01:43:36.779
born, you know, I remember Eddie talking about

01:43:36.779 --> 01:43:39.760
him, but you know, and it really, it was cool

01:43:39.760 --> 01:43:42.550
to see. It was really cool to see. And let's

01:43:42.550 --> 01:43:44.470
face it, that album, Different Kind of Truth,

01:43:44.590 --> 01:43:47.390
and those tours, the 07, 12, and 15 tours, would

01:43:47.390 --> 01:43:49.649
not have happened if not for Wolfgang. It's the

01:43:49.649 --> 01:43:51.430
only reason that he went back out there again.

01:43:51.489 --> 01:43:55.630
He was ready to make peace with Mike and go out

01:43:55.630 --> 01:43:58.229
in a bang, have Sammy and Dave out there and

01:43:58.229 --> 01:44:00.329
do the whole package. It never happened. Yeah,

01:44:00.329 --> 01:44:03.789
the kitchen sink. Kitchen sink. As far as those

01:44:03.789 --> 01:44:06.630
previous tours, which, by the way, Eddie sounded

01:44:06.630 --> 01:44:10.239
phenomenal on those. especially on the 12 and

01:44:10.239 --> 01:44:14.460
15 tours. It was great to see him finish his

01:44:14.460 --> 01:44:17.260
career at the top because he went through such

01:44:17.260 --> 01:44:20.380
a rough period in the early 2000s. By all means.

01:44:20.439 --> 01:44:23.000
And we are down now, believe it or not, to the

01:44:23.000 --> 01:44:26.279
home stretch. Time has flown, but we are literally

01:44:26.279 --> 01:44:29.380
looking at probably a 120 -minute cassette for

01:44:29.380 --> 01:44:32.039
this episode. We each have one song choice left.

01:44:32.479 --> 01:44:35.319
And Eric, we're going to go to you. The big question

01:44:35.319 --> 01:44:38.460
is... Will we actually get something from three

01:44:38.460 --> 01:44:42.560
in the last three songs? Oh, boy. This is where

01:44:42.560 --> 01:44:45.960
I'm just bumming because I have like 30 songs

01:44:45.960 --> 01:44:49.680
that I wish I could include. Yeah, you know,

01:44:49.699 --> 01:44:53.039
I wanted to include something from three because

01:44:53.039 --> 01:44:55.439
I just felt like it was right to do. But then

01:44:55.439 --> 01:44:58.079
again, you can't leave off. I mean, there's some

01:44:58.079 --> 01:45:04.810
glaring omissions so far. Yeah, you know. Okay,

01:45:04.890 --> 01:45:07.949
let's go with, you know, we have to put Unchained

01:45:07.949 --> 01:45:11.069
in there. We have to. To me, it is the definitive

01:45:11.069 --> 01:45:16.829
Van Halen song. It encompasses all that is magical

01:45:16.829 --> 01:45:19.989
about the Dave era. So Unchained, we are going

01:45:19.989 --> 01:45:25.750
to put as track number 10. Guys, what do you

01:45:25.750 --> 01:45:29.949
think? That is mandatory Van Halen. The riff,

01:45:30.109 --> 01:45:34.270
the attitude. David Lee Roth ripping on a record

01:45:34.270 --> 01:45:38.689
executive. That suit is you. That is everything.

01:45:38.770 --> 01:45:42.010
That is unadulterated David Lee Roth. Can you

01:45:42.010 --> 01:45:45.649
imagine these songs without his personality behind

01:45:45.649 --> 01:45:49.850
them? I mean, it's songs like this and Mean Street,

01:45:49.949 --> 01:45:53.949
for that matter, that make me wonder why Fair

01:45:53.949 --> 01:45:56.369
Warning sales weren't up to par with the other

01:45:56.369 --> 01:45:59.550
albums. It's staggering to me. It is. By the

01:45:59.550 --> 01:46:01.310
way, there's a story behind that little breakdown.

01:46:01.409 --> 01:46:04.670
Ted Templeman literally, he was in the studio

01:46:04.670 --> 01:46:06.630
all dressed up in a nice suit because he had

01:46:06.630 --> 01:46:09.130
to go to a meeting. So Dave was busting his balls.

01:46:09.529 --> 01:46:12.210
Hey, man, that's, you know, Templeman's like,

01:46:12.289 --> 01:46:14.630
yeah, okay. Oh, that was Ted? I didn't realize

01:46:14.630 --> 01:46:17.470
that was Ted. Well, that's Ted saying, come on,

01:46:17.470 --> 01:46:22.189
Dave, give me a break. So that was planned, but

01:46:22.189 --> 01:46:24.829
not so much planned in the sense that that all

01:46:24.829 --> 01:46:26.970
came about because Dave was just busting his

01:46:26.970 --> 01:46:29.949
stones like, hey, look at this guy. And then

01:46:29.949 --> 01:46:31.970
I think at some point, either one or both of

01:46:31.970 --> 01:46:33.890
them said, let's put this on tape. Let's do it.

01:46:34.149 --> 01:46:37.710
Nice. Yeah, come on, Dave, give me a break. Pete,

01:46:37.850 --> 01:46:41.010
Unchained. Yeah, that was the battle. Unchained,

01:46:41.010 --> 01:46:43.649
Main Street, and Eruption were the three that

01:46:43.649 --> 01:46:45.920
I was trying to. December between the open up

01:46:45.920 --> 01:46:49.340
and Saturday. That is a monumental song from

01:46:49.340 --> 01:46:51.960
them. Just that opening guitar riff. When you

01:46:51.960 --> 01:46:54.239
hear that, you just know those guys are down

01:46:54.239 --> 01:46:57.500
to business, you know? But again, then you get

01:46:57.500 --> 01:46:59.680
that little bit of a breakdown there where he's

01:46:59.680 --> 01:47:02.680
yelling at Ted and stuff towards the middle of

01:47:02.680 --> 01:47:06.579
the song. And it just goes to show how it can

01:47:06.579 --> 01:47:09.539
be heavy and dirty into it, but they can, you

01:47:09.539 --> 01:47:10.960
know, all of a sudden turn around and have some

01:47:10.960 --> 01:47:14.279
fun real quick, you know? party on and then get

01:47:14.279 --> 01:47:16.619
right back down to business again finish the

01:47:16.619 --> 01:47:19.000
song off so yeah what what a great sound the

01:47:19.000 --> 01:47:22.020
brown sound great song all right well for my

01:47:22.020 --> 01:47:24.399
last pick of the night i'm also gonna go big

01:47:24.399 --> 01:47:26.939
i'm gonna go with a hit that everyone knows and

01:47:26.939 --> 01:47:30.640
loves and i'm gonna go with one of the only quote

01:47:30.640 --> 01:47:34.369
unquote new songs that the band wrote for Van

01:47:34.369 --> 01:47:37.489
Halen 2, as most of the material on that album

01:47:37.489 --> 01:47:40.289
existed in their club days, but one of the ones

01:47:40.289 --> 01:47:42.569
they wrote during the studio sessions for the

01:47:42.569 --> 01:47:46.409
album, to me, is probably one of the band's poppiest

01:47:46.409 --> 01:47:49.470
songs ever, and that's Dance the Night Away.

01:47:49.810 --> 01:47:53.689
Again, thanks to Ted Templeman's production and

01:47:53.689 --> 01:47:56.869
Michael Anthony's unmistakable backing vocals,

01:47:57.149 --> 01:48:01.489
you get this fun, danceable song, pun intended,

01:48:01.710 --> 01:48:05.949
in the title. So much so that ska punk band The

01:48:05.949 --> 01:48:09.250
Forces of Evil, which features Real Big Fish's

01:48:09.250 --> 01:48:13.789
Aaron Barrett as alias Aaron Evil, covers the

01:48:13.789 --> 01:48:17.829
song on the band's 2003 full -length album Friend

01:48:17.829 --> 01:48:20.590
or Foe. If you're a ska punk fan, you should

01:48:20.590 --> 01:48:24.949
really check out what horns and ska punk do to

01:48:24.949 --> 01:48:27.869
Van Halen's Dance the Night Away. But I'm thinking

01:48:27.869 --> 01:48:30.500
it's the end of the night. people are up it's

01:48:30.500 --> 01:48:32.500
partying you got to throw the hits out we've

01:48:32.500 --> 01:48:35.220
we've went deep a couple of times here we got

01:48:35.220 --> 01:48:38.140
to end on a bang so dance the night away that's

01:48:38.140 --> 01:48:40.619
the one i'm going to close out tonight with yeah

01:48:40.619 --> 01:48:44.680
influenced by go your own way from fleetwood

01:48:44.680 --> 01:48:47.600
mac and and originally titled the dance lolita

01:48:47.600 --> 01:48:50.699
dance and yeah it's one of those songs you know

01:48:50.699 --> 01:48:53.279
that just shows you you know they had all these

01:48:53.279 --> 01:48:55.840
songs from the club days but then it's like hey

01:48:55.840 --> 01:48:58.539
ed can you come up with anything new yeah here

01:48:58.539 --> 01:49:02.640
you go i mean you know and it's got cowbell you

01:49:02.640 --> 01:49:05.079
know you got you got gotta have a cowbell song

01:49:05.079 --> 01:49:08.039
on this list yeah what a great song dance the

01:49:08.039 --> 01:49:10.199
night away i never grow tired of this one as

01:49:10.199 --> 01:49:12.640
soon as i hear it it's like you know if i hear

01:49:12.640 --> 01:49:15.239
that pop up on a jukebox at the bar whatever

01:49:15.239 --> 01:49:18.319
man it's like hell yeah dance the night away

01:49:18.319 --> 01:49:21.859
yeah great what a classic song and again the

01:49:21.859 --> 01:49:25.359
harmonies in the background And the little guitar

01:49:25.359 --> 01:49:27.680
ditty that Ed plays in there with the tapping.

01:49:28.119 --> 01:49:31.260
It's such a great song. And amazing, the sound

01:49:31.260 --> 01:49:33.060
difference between the first album and the second

01:49:33.060 --> 01:49:36.020
album. Here in Michael Anthony's harmonies. What

01:49:36.020 --> 01:49:37.600
a classic song of theirs. Yeah, you can't go

01:49:37.600 --> 01:49:40.180
wrong with that one. It's great. Mikey, the pressure's

01:49:40.180 --> 01:49:43.140
on you, Pete. You got the last choice. Yeah,

01:49:43.140 --> 01:49:45.460
no pressure at all, man. You started this thing

01:49:45.460 --> 01:49:49.060
out, but now you got to bring us home, man. So

01:49:49.060 --> 01:49:51.899
you had to kick things off and you get the honor.

01:49:52.649 --> 01:49:55.409
of putting the exclamation point at the end of

01:49:55.409 --> 01:49:59.270
this ultimate Van Halen mixtape. Wow. I haven't

01:49:59.270 --> 01:50:03.369
said this for, oh my gosh, what, 20 or 30 years?

01:50:03.630 --> 01:50:07.149
Send all hate mail. Carol, Eddie Anthony, WIFC

01:50:07.149 --> 01:50:10.229
Studios, Jefferson Street. Because I'm going

01:50:10.229 --> 01:50:12.930
to get hate for this one. Uh -oh. So I know what

01:50:12.930 --> 01:50:14.670
we're omitting. So people that are listening,

01:50:14.810 --> 01:50:17.909
I know what's being omitted. Trust me. All three

01:50:17.909 --> 01:50:19.949
of us have listened to these CDs back and forth

01:50:19.949 --> 01:50:22.600
so many times. But because you're ending it,

01:50:22.659 --> 01:50:25.279
you're with Dance the Night Away. It's nice and

01:50:25.279 --> 01:50:28.640
easy. So let's just have a nice car ride home

01:50:28.640 --> 01:50:30.220
from the party because you're probably feeling

01:50:30.220 --> 01:50:33.060
woozy. I'm going to go with a favorite of mine

01:50:33.060 --> 01:50:35.819
from the MTV era that from what I understand,

01:50:35.939 --> 01:50:39.560
I'm not so sure on how on I am about this information.

01:50:39.640 --> 01:50:42.800
I understand that Alex didn't care for this song

01:50:42.800 --> 01:50:45.680
so much and it had to be fought to be put on

01:50:45.680 --> 01:50:48.590
OU812. But I'm going to go with feel so good

01:50:48.590 --> 01:50:51.930
to end it off. Yes. I love the beginning to that

01:50:51.930 --> 01:50:55.430
song. I love it. Yeah, when I think about it.

01:50:55.770 --> 01:50:59.329
So it's that song, feel so good, up for breakfast.

01:50:59.930 --> 01:51:02.869
And why can't this be love? If I'm not mistaken,

01:51:02.949 --> 01:51:07.449
they all start with that synthesizer beat, if

01:51:07.449 --> 01:51:11.010
I'm not mistaken. And my brother boy, back in

01:51:11.010 --> 01:51:13.630
the day when the parents were gone. He would,

01:51:13.630 --> 01:51:15.550
it was why I can't just be love Mac then and,

01:51:15.550 --> 01:51:17.930
and, and feel so good. Uh, because obviously

01:51:17.930 --> 01:51:20.050
I'm from Breckenridge was out yet. He would rank

01:51:20.050 --> 01:51:21.789
that part in the window. It just would have,

01:51:21.829 --> 01:51:27.189
you know, I love that. And just the music video

01:51:27.189 --> 01:51:31.210
was so cool. And I just love how the chorus doesn't

01:51:31.210 --> 01:51:33.729
even come up till later in the song. It almost

01:51:33.729 --> 01:51:36.329
reminds me of don't go away mad. Just go away

01:51:36.329 --> 01:51:38.090
by Motley Crue. It's like, I don't even get to

01:51:38.090 --> 01:51:39.970
the course till later. You get all the verses

01:51:39.970 --> 01:51:43.579
first. I just thought it was a really cool song.

01:51:43.720 --> 01:51:47.479
So just start off, I guess, in an easier note

01:51:47.479 --> 01:51:49.859
on a nice car ride home and listen to that while

01:51:49.859 --> 01:51:51.739
I get stuff chucked at me from the listeners.

01:51:53.159 --> 01:51:55.899
Yeah, I mean, that's a controversial one. I mean,

01:51:55.939 --> 01:52:01.420
I would say because actually to clarify, you

01:52:01.420 --> 01:52:03.659
know, that one, I don't think Alex had so much

01:52:03.659 --> 01:52:06.300
of an issue with it. I think, well, Sammy had

01:52:06.300 --> 01:52:08.619
said that. They were kind of doing a Genesis

01:52:08.619 --> 01:52:10.500
thing there. They're looking for a Genesis style.

01:52:10.920 --> 01:52:13.520
And Eddie comes up with an interesting sound

01:52:13.520 --> 01:52:16.319
to the keyboards. And this is one of my personal

01:52:16.319 --> 01:52:18.500
favorites, I guess. It's just because, you know,

01:52:18.500 --> 01:52:20.439
my age. This is when I became a fan. I'm like

01:52:20.439 --> 01:52:24.359
16 when this album came out. Now, Sammy liked

01:52:24.359 --> 01:52:26.199
it. But I don't think, you know, you could be

01:52:26.199 --> 01:52:27.500
right, though. I don't think anybody else in

01:52:27.500 --> 01:52:28.819
the band liked it. I don't think they'd have

01:52:28.819 --> 01:52:31.659
wanted it. But it ended up on the record. And

01:52:31.659 --> 01:52:34.439
they ended up making a video for it. It was released

01:52:34.439 --> 01:52:37.909
as a single. as far as i know they never played

01:52:37.909 --> 01:52:41.510
it live yeah i i just it's one of my favorites

01:52:41.510 --> 01:52:43.829
it's got that in fact i think alex was the one

01:52:43.829 --> 01:52:47.069
who said um he came up with the i think he's

01:52:47.069 --> 01:52:50.489
the one just doing like he was like helping ed

01:52:50.489 --> 01:52:54.050
with that part i think but it's such a feel -good

01:52:54.050 --> 01:52:56.850
song i i can't i know there are people that just

01:52:56.850 --> 01:52:58.750
hate it but i think it's a good way to finish

01:52:59.239 --> 01:53:03.119
And I know we've omitted quite a few bangers.

01:53:03.220 --> 01:53:05.579
Oh, of course. That's part of what this show

01:53:05.579 --> 01:53:08.760
is all about, though. This is all about a conversation.

01:53:08.979 --> 01:53:11.819
And I love the song. And I remember my dad would

01:53:11.819 --> 01:53:14.300
always drop the needle to try to go to finish

01:53:14.300 --> 01:53:16.420
what you started. And if he didn't hit it just

01:53:16.420 --> 01:53:18.420
perfect, he would catch the end of Feel So Good.

01:53:18.460 --> 01:53:20.939
He'd go, now let's go back one. And then he would

01:53:20.939 --> 01:53:22.739
play Feel So Good right in to finish what you

01:53:22.739 --> 01:53:25.279
started. And the part that shocks me the most

01:53:25.279 --> 01:53:30.279
here. is that both side A and side B close out

01:53:30.279 --> 01:53:33.500
with tracks from OU812, which is very interesting.

01:53:33.800 --> 01:53:35.739
Oh, yeah, you're right. But there you have it,

01:53:35.739 --> 01:53:39.340
folks. Side B of our ultimate Van Halen mixtape,

01:53:39.399 --> 01:53:43.659
which consists of Panama from 1984 and The Cradle

01:53:43.659 --> 01:53:46.520
Will Rock from Women and Children First, Good

01:53:46.520 --> 01:53:50.340
Enough from 5150, Beautiful Girls from Van Halen

01:53:50.340 --> 01:53:53.359
2, Ain't Talkin' About Love from Van Halen 1,

01:53:53.720 --> 01:53:56.380
in a simple rhyme from women and children first

01:53:56.380 --> 01:53:59.720
right now from for unlawful carnal knowledge

01:53:59.720 --> 01:54:03.560
the seventh seal from balance as is from a different

01:54:03.560 --> 01:54:07.329
kind of truth unchained from fair warning Dance

01:54:07.329 --> 01:54:10.890
the Night Away from Van Halen 2 and Feels So

01:54:10.890 --> 01:54:15.210
Good from OU812. Head over to myweeklymixtape

01:54:15.210 --> 01:54:18.310
.com to hear all the songs we've discussed in

01:54:18.310 --> 01:54:21.270
this mix through the playlist embedded on the

01:54:21.270 --> 01:54:24.189
episode page. And also, I want to know what song

01:54:24.189 --> 01:54:27.189
you would like to add to this list. Hit me up

01:54:27.189 --> 01:54:30.729
on social media at myweeklymixtape or email me

01:54:30.729 --> 01:54:34.329
at myweeklymixtape at gmail .com and let me know

01:54:34.329 --> 01:54:37.100
what song you would add. to the mixtape we've

01:54:37.100 --> 01:54:40.439
created this evening. Eric, before we go, why

01:54:40.439 --> 01:54:42.260
don't you remind people how they can get in touch

01:54:42.260 --> 01:54:44.319
with you and where they can find Booked on Rock?

01:54:45.020 --> 01:54:48.159
Yes, go to BookedOnRock .com. You can contact

01:54:48.159 --> 01:54:50.880
me through there. You can also, if you go to

01:54:50.880 --> 01:54:54.920
VHND .com, you'll see my brief bio there, which

01:54:54.920 --> 01:54:57.720
you can also connect to Booked on Rock. Yeah,

01:54:57.800 --> 01:54:59.779
give Booked on Rock a listen. I think you guys

01:54:59.779 --> 01:55:02.399
are going to love it. I have so much fun doing

01:55:02.399 --> 01:55:04.819
it. And I think you guys are going to have fun

01:55:04.819 --> 01:55:07.960
listening to it. So check that out and get vhnd

01:55:07.960 --> 01:55:10.000
.com. We're always trying to put stuff up almost

01:55:10.000 --> 01:55:14.420
daily if we can. And the Van Halen store, I should

01:55:14.420 --> 01:55:16.880
mention too, vanhalenstore .com, some great stuff

01:55:16.880 --> 01:55:20.060
there. And I'd love to hear from people. I do

01:55:20.060 --> 01:55:23.220
get some people who will just reach out to me

01:55:23.220 --> 01:55:26.180
with Van Halen questions or just want to tell

01:55:26.180 --> 01:55:29.000
me their Van Halen story. And always welcome,

01:55:29.079 --> 01:55:31.119
always great to talk to fellow Van Halen fans.

01:55:31.890 --> 01:55:34.689
And, yeah, and I'm just, boy, I'm looking at

01:55:34.689 --> 01:55:37.670
all these songs we left off the list. The guilt

01:55:37.670 --> 01:55:41.630
is setting in, huh? Oh, I'm so sorry. We need

01:55:41.630 --> 01:55:46.449
a part two. We need a double mixtape. We need

01:55:46.449 --> 01:55:48.550
three mixtapes. Yeah, I think we're going to

01:55:48.550 --> 01:55:50.689
have to follow this one up at some point. But

01:55:50.689 --> 01:55:53.210
Eric, thank you so much for joining me on this

01:55:53.210 --> 01:55:55.149
one, man. My pleasure, man. Thanks so much for

01:55:55.149 --> 01:55:57.409
having me on. This is, like I said, this is one

01:55:57.409 --> 01:55:59.449
of my favorite podcasts. So it was so great to

01:55:59.449 --> 01:56:01.449
be on. Well, I really appreciate that. And Pete,

01:56:01.689 --> 01:56:04.550
I first want to thank you for being such a huge

01:56:04.550 --> 01:56:07.479
supporter of the show. And being one of the first

01:56:07.479 --> 01:56:09.659
Patreon mixtapers, it really means the world

01:56:09.659 --> 01:56:12.439
to me. And more importantly, thank you for being

01:56:12.439 --> 01:56:15.260
a guest with me on this episode tonight. It's

01:56:15.260 --> 01:56:17.039
been a lot of fun talking Van Halen with you

01:56:17.039 --> 01:56:19.060
tonight. Yeah, thanks for having me on. I really

01:56:19.060 --> 01:56:21.340
appreciate it. Love what you're doing. I always

01:56:21.340 --> 01:56:23.159
look forward to the show, so I'm looking forward

01:56:23.159 --> 01:56:24.859
to this one and all the other ones that you have

01:56:24.859 --> 01:56:26.659
coming out. So thank you very much for having

01:56:26.659 --> 01:56:28.579
me on. Thanks, Eric. All right. Thanks, Pete.

01:56:28.640 --> 01:56:31.680
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