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Welcome to My Weekly Mixtape, a podcast that

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takes the classic mixtape approach to building

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a modern playlist. I'm your host, Brian Colburn.

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Joining me tonight as guest curator is Pantheon

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Podcast Network mate, Jesse Jackson, host of

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the Set Lusting Bruce podcast. Jesse, thank you

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so much for joining me tonight, man. Well, Brian,

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I had a blast when you joined me and we talked

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about Petty and your podcast. And so I am thrilled

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that you're letting me hang out with you. I think

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we're going to have a fun discussion tonight.

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I am so nervous about our discussion tonight,

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but we'll get into that in a few minutes, because

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being you're a first time guest, I get to ask

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you my first time guest question, which is, Jesse,

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what does the word mixtape mean to you? So mixtapes

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to me bring to mind two things. either portable

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or actual stereo with two cassette tape decks

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where you could mix, you know, you could record

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off one and the other. Also, I am of the age

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that you used to have the little bitty cassette

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recorder that kind of looks like a brick and

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you push the two buttons and you would have it

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next to the radio. And you're like, oh, I want

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this song. So you would not always get because

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you wouldn't know. And then sometimes like the

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song Color My World with Chicago, you would get

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it at the beginning. And then right before the

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DJ would go, Color My World on KLOU as time goes

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on. So the mixtape to me is that I remember.

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And then. Then when you could go to burning CDs,

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that was a whole, boy, that was like, okay, we've

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gone to mixtape 2 .0, right? Where you could

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go, where you get that and burn it. So that's

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what it means to me. This idea of doing your

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own personalized, once again, I'm going to show

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my age, K -Tel record. I grew up with the K -Tel

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records on the TV, the best of the hits. And

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you could buy this cassette or a track with these

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different collections of songs on it. So that's

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what it means to me. Well, tonight we have the

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challenge. I'll do this K -Tel record style.

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We're going to be talking Bruce Springsteen's

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21 studio albums, 23 live albums, multiple B

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-sides, soundtrack songs, and compilations. And

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we're whittling it down. to 20 songs. I'm picturing

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song titles just scrolling endlessly up the screen

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right now, and I am trying to think, oh my God,

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what have we just got ourselves into? Now, Jesse,

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you host a podcast that is dedicated to all things

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Bruce Springsteen. I'd love to know what your

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goal is for tonight's mixtape in terms of balancing

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the hit songs, songs that are important to his

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legacy, as well as personal favorites and maybe

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some deep cuts. So one of the things you and

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I brought up in our pre -show discussion to pull

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the curtain back is you can't even get one song

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per album. Some of our podcast brethrens have

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that show. where you go through, you pick one

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song per album. We can't even do that. Yeah,

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Jason Whistle over at There Can Only Be One is

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smiling right now. Yes. And you have to understand,

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you ask, what am I thinking? I'm hoping that

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my regular listeners don't get too PO'd at me.

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Because the discussion is going to be, how can

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you leave blank off a Springsteen mixtape? So

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there is a lot of discussion on what do we do?

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One of the things that I always bring up there

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on E Street Radio, which is the Sirius XM dedicated

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to Bruce, they have a segment called Be the Boss,

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where you pick five songs and you send into them

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and you're the DJ. And I always say, don't waste

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a slot on Thunder Road and Born to Run. You know,

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everyone's going to pick Thunder Road and Born

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to Run. So that gives you another spot. How do

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you do a mixtape without Thunder Road and Born

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to Run? Maybe as we go through this, we might,

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right? But I think we're trying to serve many

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masters. And I love your premise, Brian, is that

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we are going to, where you're a Springsteen newbie,

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this will give you a feeling of what his career

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is. And if you're a Springsteen fanatic. We're

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going to try to hit as many of the highlights

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as we can. And somewhere in the middle, we're

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going to come up with our 20 songs. Well, let's

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get down to business and not waste any more time

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tonight. As I mentioned at the top of the show,

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Jesse and I will be curating the ultimate. Bruce

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Springsteen mixtape, and we'll use the old cassette

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deck approach. Jesse, as my special guest, will

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begin side A with his first song choice, and

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then I'll add a song that I feel best follows

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up that choice. We'll then flip -flop choosing

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songs until we've mapped out 10 songs for side

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A. We'll then give our mixtape a proverbial flip,

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and then we'll map outside, be only this time

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I'll kick things off with Jesse choosing second.

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Our overall goal for this episode is to craft

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the best Bruce Springsteen mixtape possible through

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only 20 songs. At the end of the show, you can

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take our conversation to the next level by visiting

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the episode page at myweeklymixtape .com to give

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our final mixtape a listen via the embedded playlist.

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And if you like what you're hearing on the show,

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you can help me out by either telling a friend,

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at patreon .com forward slash myweeklymixtape.

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And a few of the Patreon mixtapers chimed in

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with songs they would use to kick off a Bruce

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Springsteen playlist, and I want to shout a few

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of those out. Jason Doncic chimed in with, on

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behalf of David Hudson from the State of America

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podcast, Loose Ends. Philip chimed in that he's

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starting with either the obvious attention -grabbing

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sting of Born in the USA or with the deep cut

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Stand on It. Cactus Pete said there's simply

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way too many to choose from, that I completely

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understand, but that he was going to make it

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easy on himself and pick his all -time favorite

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Bruce song, Glory Days, because at this point

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of his life, he could truly relate to it and

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he's always loved it. Seeker chimed in from Australia

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with Born to Run, his favorite boss track, with

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Rosalita being a strong second option. And Sean

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Faust chimed in with My City of Ruins to get

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things started with some hope. So Jesse, right

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then and there, we have a nice spectrum of musical

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food for thought out in the atmosphere. So I'm

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going to officially press the record button on

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our mixtape and turn the floor over to you. Why

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don't you dive into the song you chose to kick

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off Side A? So a few years ago, Bruce put out

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the Riverbox set. And included in that box set

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was the original single album. Bruce actually

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had The River was going to be a single album.

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It was totally mixed and done. And then they

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decided, no, it needed to be a two album. One

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of the outtakes was a song called Meet Me in

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the City. It was he did it on Saturday Night

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Live for that Christmas show that Tina Fey and

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Amy Poehler hosted. So I'm starting out with

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an outtake, Meet Me in the City. It is a song

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filled with energy. When he was doing the River

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Tour, the second River Tour, that was what they

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would start every show with. So I'm thinking

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right away, let's start out with energy, start

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out with something that a song a lot of people

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may not have heard. But a really great way to

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say, hey, this mixtape is not full of losers

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and we're pulling out of here to win. I love

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the song. Now, anybody that is a Saturday Night

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Live diehard that watches all the seasons and

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all the shows will be familiar with this from

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the live performance, like you said. But it's

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one of those songs that I listen to and think

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to myself, how the hell did this first version

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of the river not get released? Because. It's

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so strong before it became the double album.

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I don't know what made them think, let's shelve

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this and start again because it sounds like a

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perfectly finished body of work through the whole

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listen. Absolutely. I agree. You know, one of

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the things Little Steven says is that if Bruce

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had wanted to be a pop songwriter, he believes

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he could have been one of the best pop songwriters

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of all times. because of some of the songs like

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Fire with the Pointer Sisters and Because the

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Night from Patti Smith and other songs that he's

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written for people that if they wanted, he could

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have done a lot of pop songs, but that wasn't

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where his heart was. Well, following that up,

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I am going to go with a song that I think I'm

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going to jump right on what you said right there,

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where his heart was. Because to me, 2020's Letter

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to You was an album that truly came from the

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heart for Bruce. And I think the song I'm going

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to pull from that is the song that he was using

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in the second slot in a lot of his live shows.

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And to me, an absolute anthem from the new album.

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One of the most rousing songs on Letters to You

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and a live staple ever since is Ghosts. To me,

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this song is joy. It's written about. Members

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of the E Street band that are no longer with

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us, such as Danny Federici and Clarence Clemons.

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I mean, in the lyrics, you could hear the joy

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that Bruce had having them in his life, but you

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can also feel the pain that they're not there

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with him. And those two things combined together

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over this rousing, joyous track, two words I've

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already used. Really create this tension, this

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yin and yang pull from a song that just makes

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you want to get up and sing to these introspective

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lyrics that are how he feels about people that

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he's lost. So it's so conflicting. And to me,

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that makes for a powerful, memorable tune. And

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then Jake Clemens saxophone solo. I mean, look,

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I get it. He is blood for Clarence. But to me,

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that. is what truly shines on the track, and

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the sing -along at the end just evokes a togetherness

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that was custom -built for a Springsteen live

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show. So I'm going to follow up Meet Me in the

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City with Ghosts. Excellent choice. One, he played

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it on Saturday Night Live, so there is the theme.

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I don't know if you realized that. Yeah, from

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the same night. I probably should have mentioned

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that. Yeah, and so the other thing is... Many

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of us Springsteen fans had good money that he

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would open the 2023 tour with Ghost. He ended

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up doing No Surrender most nights, but Ghost

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is one of the early ones. Because the idea, I

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hear the sound of your guitar and just going,

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it is joyous. I think that is excellent. And

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I was worried. Because I have multiple songs

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from Letter to You that we may not have gotten

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that on the list. So to have his latest studio

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album included, I now feel a little bit better

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if none of the others make it, though I love

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that whole album. So great, great choice. Perfect.

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So I'm going to continue with the joy and I'm

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going to do Out in the Street. Yes. Out in the

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Street is a great rocking. Once again, it's Off

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the River, which is in a lot of ways Bruce's

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most party album. When they do it live, one of

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the things I love is he goes out in the street,

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Susie, and then Susie, who's the violinist, will

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sing out in the street, out in the street, kneels,

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and then kneels. They all take it. And I have

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to include Out in the Street because it has my

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son's favorite lyric. He says, Brian, that no

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matter what level of the world you are in, whether

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you are the lowest person working in the factory

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or the CEO, there is not one person that on Monday

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morning when the foreman calls time, you don't

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have Friday on your mind. And that is one of

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the lyrics, you know. And so I think all of us

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feel that way. On Monday, we're already thinking

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about the weekend. So I'm going to go out in

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the street for number three. Well, not only did

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you scoop me on the pick, you now followed up

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my most favorite song from Bruce's modern catalog

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with my favorite song from Bruce Springsteen

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ever. Out in the Street is my personal favorite

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Bruce Springsteen song. So thank you for choosing

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that. Shocked that it was never released as a

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single. It's obviously a live staple. But again.

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I was also shocked that meet me in the city and

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the original version of the river was shelved.

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So, and this was one of the last songs recorded

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for the double album. And at one point from what

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I've read about this song, it was almost left

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off the river and I can't picture the river without

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this song. There's a timelessness to this track

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that. You could say this was recorded in the

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70s and I'd believe you. You could tell me this

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was recorded in the 80s and I'd believe you.

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You could tell me it was recorded in the 90s,

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the 2000s, 2010. You could tell me this was recorded

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yesterday and I would believe you because it

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feels relevant. Everything that there is to love

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about Bruce Springsteen is in this song. And

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hell, I've talked about this on the show before.

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Adam Sandler covered this song. As the closing

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track to his HBO special, What the Hell Happened

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to Me, that came out in the 90s. And it was at

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that moment that I said to myself, even if there's

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an Adam Sandler movie that I don't find funny,

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I got to hat tip this guy because he has obviously

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some amazing musical taste. Because to me, this

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is a deeper pick for people that are Springsteen

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newbies. And I absolutely adore it. I think it's

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fantastic. I did not know that Adam Sandler had

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done this. And so after our talk and you shared

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that with me, I went and looked at it and he

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does it straight up. I mean, there is no schtick.

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He isn't doing anything. This is just him with

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his band on there doing it straight up and he

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rocks it. And it is a live stable and is that

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I, you know. this the whole idea uh out in the

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streets and it's just yeah i i agree with you

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just it is a wonderful song and there is so much

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joy when he does this live yeah i agree well

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i'm gonna follow that up with the song that introduced

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me to bruce springsteen so it's a personal favorite

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okay to me this song keeps the energy going from

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the first three songs however His live concerts

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may say otherwise because the song hasn't been

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played live since he did Born in the USA in its

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entirety. But because it's the song that introduced

00:16:27.220 --> 00:16:29.980
me to Bruce Springsteen, I wanted to include

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it for personal reasons. Now, I am sure there's

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going to be some Springsteen fans out there that

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are here nor there on this song. But this is

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one that it was a single. It was the sixth single

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from the album. And it motivated me to say, hey,

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mom, hey, dad, can you let Santa know I want

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this cassette for Christmas? And sure enough,

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I got it. And one of the first songs I fast forwarded

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to or actually I put the tape in and rewound

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side B to get to I'm going down now. I've told

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you I'm a Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers fanatic.

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So when you listen to I'm Going Down, there's

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a similarity there in the musical style. Those

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songs could be played back to back on rock radio

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at the time. A Tom Petty song and I'm Going Down

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and feel like you're still in the same vibe.

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Now, I get it. The word down is used over 80

00:17:21.359 --> 00:17:24.480
times in the song. I want to say it's 86. It

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would definitely make that his most repetitive

00:17:26.579 --> 00:17:30.079
lyric. But even at that point. I never got sick

00:17:30.079 --> 00:17:32.420
of it because it's the song is so infectious

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and it's got such a pop quality to it that you

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can't help but sing along with this song. And

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when as I got older and the novelty of just the

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music wore off and I started diving into lyrics

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and reading the lyrics and understanding where

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their songwriter came from, I dove into the fact

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that this song is truly about frustration. woven

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through this relationship, whether it be personal,

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sexual, however you want to put it. That part

00:18:04.490 --> 00:18:06.589
went right over my head when I was a kid listening

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to the music. And when I got older and started

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thinking more about lyrics, it hit home with

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me on a different level. And I'm going to also

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go on a limb by saying when bands like Trampled

00:18:17.809 --> 00:18:21.089
by Turtles cover the song in bluegrass fashion,

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Frank Black and the Cadillacs cover it in punk

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rock style. And Vampire Weekend takes an indie

00:18:29.019 --> 00:18:31.980
stab at the track. Here's a song that's crossing

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through different genres of covers and still

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holding an impact on people and still working

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in all of those different musical atmospheres.

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That just goes to show what a prolific songwriter

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Springsteen is. And to me, this is probably one

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of the more underrated singles from Born in the

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USA, even though it was a hit. Yeah, I think

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you mentioned this, the turtles, right? Didn't

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you mention? Trampled by turtles, yes. Yeah.

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So that's from an amazing Dead Man Town, a tribute

00:19:00.910 --> 00:19:04.710
to Born in the USA, all done by Americana artists.

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Holly Williams does No Surrender. Jason Isbell

00:19:08.029 --> 00:19:12.049
and Amanda Shires do Born in the USA. It is too

00:19:12.049 --> 00:19:16.150
many people. And when someone tells me. I don't

00:19:16.150 --> 00:19:18.349
like Bruce Springsteen. I go, do you listen to

00:19:18.349 --> 00:19:21.509
anything besides Born in the USA, that CD? Because

00:19:21.509 --> 00:19:25.210
that can be overplayed. What I think too many

00:19:25.210 --> 00:19:29.769
Bruce Springsteen fans forget that it was the

00:19:29.769 --> 00:19:33.750
gateway album. There are some people that will

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only go with Born in the USA and then they'll

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move on. But many people bought that album and

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then discovered The River, Born to Run. Greetings

00:19:45.289 --> 00:19:49.029
from Ashbury Park, right? This taught them, I

00:19:49.029 --> 00:19:52.769
like this guy. And Going Down is one of those

00:19:52.769 --> 00:19:56.970
that is not as overplayed as You're Much. You're

00:19:56.970 --> 00:20:00.490
right. It's not normally in the rotation doing

00:20:00.490 --> 00:20:05.230
it live. And this may be one of the few songs

00:20:05.230 --> 00:20:08.650
from Born in the USA I've never heard live. So

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I think that's a perfect song because it... You're

00:20:13.740 --> 00:20:15.660
like, oh, you're picking something from Born

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in the USA. But unlike, say, Bobby Jean, which

00:20:20.880 --> 00:20:24.880
I adore, or Darlington County or something, it

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is something a little more that kind of fits

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this. So I love the idea that you're talking

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about heartbreak. So I'm going to slow us down

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a little bit and talk about a different kind

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of heartbreak with racing in the street. Earlier

00:20:41.349 --> 00:20:46.890
this year, I had five Springsteen fans join me

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on a Saturday morning. And Chris Bloom from South

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Africa put together 256 Bruce Springsteen songs.

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And we did round -robin tournament style. This

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or this, all the way down to number one. And

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believe it or not, racing in the street is what

00:21:06.069 --> 00:21:09.109
won. That was when we looked at all the different

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songs. Racing in the Street is ended up being

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the best. I think whether it's the version that

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was released, there's a 78 version that is a

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little bit slower. But Racing in the Street is

00:21:22.190 --> 00:21:27.869
Bruce's first try at a Beach Boys song. Right.

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I fun cars and I'm going to do it my way. I love

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racing in the street, the instrumental, the voice.

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And so I think we've gotten four really strong

00:21:41.569 --> 00:21:44.049
pop songs. And now that we're kind of dropping

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it down a little bit, racing in the street would

00:21:45.869 --> 00:21:48.529
be my choice. I'm just hearing that beautiful

00:21:48.529 --> 00:21:52.289
piano coming out of the speakers right after

00:21:52.289 --> 00:21:55.049
I'm going down fades out. It's a really nice

00:21:55.049 --> 00:21:59.150
transition. And this is truly a beautiful song.

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You can hear the angst. Of darkness on the edge

00:22:03.960 --> 00:22:08.039
of town in racing in the streets. The storyline

00:22:08.039 --> 00:22:10.400
that's woven throughout that album. It's definitely

00:22:10.400 --> 00:22:13.920
a much more. I don't want to use the word bitter

00:22:13.920 --> 00:22:17.240
because that comes across wrong, but it's definitely

00:22:17.240 --> 00:22:20.279
people that are a little jaded. The characters

00:22:20.279 --> 00:22:23.400
from born to run are in a different place on

00:22:23.400 --> 00:22:28.079
this album. And I think this song is a great

00:22:28.079 --> 00:22:31.000
way to sum it up. Coming out of that's going

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to be really tough because it's a slower song,

00:22:34.640 --> 00:22:38.039
but there's this angst in it. And I think I'm

00:22:38.039 --> 00:22:40.900
going to tap into that a little bit more and

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go a little more. Let's get a little more angsty

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here. And I am a absolute sucker for cover songs.

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And when I think about cover songs that Bruce

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did, I think about one in particular. Because

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when I was a child, I had no idea that this was

00:23:03.440 --> 00:23:05.579
a cover song. It wasn't until I started reading

00:23:05.579 --> 00:23:08.680
the liner notes. And this is a song that's not

00:23:08.680 --> 00:23:12.299
even officially on a Bruce Springsteen studio

00:23:12.299 --> 00:23:16.380
album, unless you buy the essential Bruce Springsteen

00:23:16.380 --> 00:23:20.299
three CD set and it's on disc three. But originally

00:23:20.299 --> 00:23:23.700
when I was growing up, it was on the 1985 compilation.

00:23:24.299 --> 00:23:27.950
We are the world. To me, the most memorable song

00:23:27.950 --> 00:23:31.609
off the entire compilation, his cover of Jimmy

00:23:31.609 --> 00:23:36.309
Cliff's Trapped, recorded August 6th, 1984, right

00:23:36.309 --> 00:23:38.990
down the street from where I grew up, less than

00:23:38.990 --> 00:23:42.130
a mile, Meadowlands Arena. Even though the song

00:23:42.130 --> 00:23:44.769
was never released as a single, it peaked at

00:23:44.769 --> 00:23:47.609
number one on Billboard's rock charts. So right

00:23:47.609 --> 00:23:51.170
there, that says that this song meant something

00:23:51.170 --> 00:23:53.809
to people, that it wasn't released officially.

00:23:54.539 --> 00:23:57.740
But I heard it nonstop on New York rock radio

00:23:57.740 --> 00:24:00.579
growing up on New York top 40. This was everywhere.

00:24:01.259 --> 00:24:03.940
Pretty much. I'd say as much as I was hearing,

00:24:03.960 --> 00:24:05.779
we are the world on the radio. I was hearing

00:24:05.779 --> 00:24:10.900
trapped. And I guess because of the fact that

00:24:10.900 --> 00:24:14.079
it's not on an official Bruce studio album, other

00:24:14.079 --> 00:24:17.619
than the essential Bruce Springsteen. I would

00:24:17.619 --> 00:24:21.140
say this falls under the quote unquote underrated

00:24:21.140 --> 00:24:24.500
section of Bruce songs, maybe a deeper cut, maybe

00:24:24.500 --> 00:24:26.740
a B side. I don't know how you would, what you

00:24:26.740 --> 00:24:29.920
would officially classify this as, but it topped

00:24:29.920 --> 00:24:31.819
the rock chart. So to me, that says it's important.

00:24:31.920 --> 00:24:35.140
Otherwise trapped live from the, we are the world

00:24:35.140 --> 00:24:39.059
compilation. So for those of you who are pretty

00:24:39.059 --> 00:24:42.059
big Springsteen fans listening to this, you know

00:24:42.059 --> 00:24:44.609
this, but for the rest of you, There was a little

00:24:44.609 --> 00:24:48.849
bit of controversy in 2023 because Bruce, for

00:24:48.849 --> 00:24:54.049
the first time in multiple tours, was not changing

00:24:54.049 --> 00:24:57.589
his set list as much as he had in the past. Early

00:24:57.589 --> 00:25:01.329
in his career, even as late as The Rising, his

00:25:01.329 --> 00:25:06.109
set list was pretty set. But over the past tours,

00:25:06.369 --> 00:25:09.690
he's been pretty flexible. And that's where the

00:25:09.690 --> 00:25:12.740
name of my podcast comes from. Set lusting, Bruce.

00:25:12.900 --> 00:25:15.660
You're at home, not at a show. You're seeing

00:25:15.660 --> 00:25:18.700
social media. And instead of set listing, you

00:25:18.700 --> 00:25:22.279
start set lusting. I can't believe. So on this

00:25:22.279 --> 00:25:27.019
discussion that many people were thrilled when

00:25:27.019 --> 00:25:30.440
he brought out Trapped and they felt like, oh,

00:25:30.519 --> 00:25:34.819
at least we got Trapped. Now, to me, Trapped

00:25:34.819 --> 00:25:38.039
is just another cover song. I do not have the

00:25:38.039 --> 00:25:41.450
emotional attachment to it that you do. But I

00:25:41.450 --> 00:25:46.190
am also the person that is not the biggest fan

00:25:46.190 --> 00:25:51.250
of Jungle Land, which makes people hate me. I

00:25:51.250 --> 00:25:55.549
would never say I'm wrong. Yeah. So I think that

00:25:55.549 --> 00:26:00.269
you absolutely have made a ton of diehard Springsteen

00:26:00.269 --> 00:26:04.390
fans thrilled. And they try to explain it to

00:26:04.390 --> 00:26:09.109
me. And I get it. The reason why this is so different

00:26:09.109 --> 00:26:12.750
from the original. Yes. I mean, it is. He takes

00:26:12.750 --> 00:26:19.329
this iconic song and totally reinvents it and

00:26:19.329 --> 00:26:22.109
puts it out there, as you say, not even from

00:26:22.109 --> 00:26:26.650
original album. So it is now I've heard it live

00:26:26.650 --> 00:26:30.170
and it is an amazing song. I mean, don't get

00:26:30.170 --> 00:26:32.329
me wrong. I love hearing it. I will never complain

00:26:32.329 --> 00:26:36.109
hearing it. So I think an excellent choice. And

00:26:36.109 --> 00:26:39.390
I think it definitely fits our theme of where

00:26:39.390 --> 00:26:42.960
we're going. Oh, perfect. Perfect choice. Well,

00:26:43.039 --> 00:26:45.759
now we're back to you now to follow it up. All

00:26:45.759 --> 00:26:50.400
right. So there are going to be albums that aren't

00:26:50.400 --> 00:26:54.819
included in this mix just by pure. And we've

00:26:54.819 --> 00:26:57.700
already picked two songs that were not on official

00:26:57.700 --> 00:27:00.240
releases. So that means there's going to even

00:27:00.240 --> 00:27:05.000
be more albums. But I thought Nebraska had to

00:27:05.000 --> 00:27:08.259
be on this. There has to be a song from Nebraska

00:27:08.259 --> 00:27:13.339
on this. Because Nebraska is often people who

00:27:13.339 --> 00:27:18.720
are into punk or into really wild music will

00:27:18.720 --> 00:27:22.220
pick Nebraska as their favorite album. Warren

00:27:22.220 --> 00:27:26.059
Zane was on the podcast earlier this year. He

00:27:26.059 --> 00:27:29.240
wrote a great book, Deliver Me From Nowhere,

00:27:29.339 --> 00:27:32.099
The Making of Bruce Springsteen's Nebraska. Anyone

00:27:32.099 --> 00:27:34.640
who loves music at all, I recommend the book

00:27:34.640 --> 00:27:38.289
immediately. Go get it. It is a mystery. Why

00:27:38.289 --> 00:27:41.190
does Bruce Springsteen put out The River? And

00:27:41.190 --> 00:27:44.809
then two albums later, Born in the USA. Why did

00:27:44.809 --> 00:27:47.450
he put this silent little album? And for those

00:27:47.450 --> 00:27:50.789
of you who may not know, bear with me. He recorded

00:27:50.789 --> 00:27:55.650
this on a home recorder and carried the cassette

00:27:55.650 --> 00:28:00.190
without a case around in his pocket because he

00:28:00.190 --> 00:28:02.670
thought it was going to be demos that the E Street

00:28:02.670 --> 00:28:07.440
Band would do. And no one... As success has many

00:28:07.440 --> 00:28:12.319
fathers, many people have said, but the story

00:28:12.319 --> 00:28:15.599
most told is Little Steven says, this is the

00:28:15.599 --> 00:28:18.720
album. You don't need to have us do it. So I'm

00:28:18.720 --> 00:28:21.440
going to pick Atlantic City. I think it fits

00:28:21.440 --> 00:28:25.119
with track. I think Atlantic City is, as you

00:28:25.119 --> 00:28:27.640
say, you've heard the band cover it. You've heard

00:28:27.640 --> 00:28:32.079
other people cover it. It is a great song. And

00:28:32.079 --> 00:28:35.319
you've got that meet me in Atlantic City, right?

00:28:35.879 --> 00:28:38.059
Everything dies, baby, that's a fact. Everything

00:28:38.059 --> 00:28:41.859
dies, but sometimes comes back. So I think, and

00:28:41.859 --> 00:28:45.759
one of my favorite personal moments, I was in

00:28:45.759 --> 00:28:49.000
New Orleans. We were at a kind of a round table,

00:28:49.099 --> 00:28:52.140
people doing jam session. The lady was passing

00:28:52.140 --> 00:28:55.619
the hat. I asked, my wife said, go ahead, ask

00:28:55.619 --> 00:28:57.640
her. And I said, yeah, what are you asking about?

00:28:57.720 --> 00:28:59.779
And I said, I'm a huge Bruce fan. And she goes,

00:28:59.839 --> 00:29:02.019
oh, I love Atlantic City. I'll do Atlantic City

00:29:02.019 --> 00:29:05.680
for you. And they did it for me. I think Atlantic

00:29:05.680 --> 00:29:08.019
City fits in perfect with our theme. We're a

00:29:08.019 --> 00:29:10.640
little bit slower, a little bit. And that way

00:29:10.640 --> 00:29:14.619
we get Nebraska checked off our list. Fantastic

00:29:14.619 --> 00:29:18.259
pick. I mean, Rolling Stone, I take what they

00:29:18.259 --> 00:29:21.039
say with a grain of salt, but sometimes they

00:29:21.039 --> 00:29:23.599
even manage to get it right. And they ranked

00:29:23.599 --> 00:29:27.380
it on back in 2021 on their 500 best songs of

00:29:27.380 --> 00:29:30.779
all time. And there's something that you mentioned

00:29:30.779 --> 00:29:33.920
at the punk community. This album has a punk.

00:29:34.519 --> 00:29:37.900
spirit to it when you listen to guys that record

00:29:37.900 --> 00:29:41.299
albums with acoustic guitars but with that punk

00:29:41.299 --> 00:29:44.400
flair there's almost this outlaw i don't want

00:29:44.400 --> 00:29:46.940
to say outlaw country because that might it's

00:29:46.940 --> 00:29:50.640
not a country album but that vibe that pretense

00:29:50.640 --> 00:29:54.559
is in the music i love the diy fact that it's

00:29:54.559 --> 00:29:57.980
so simple a four -track recorder and it's so

00:29:57.980 --> 00:30:02.470
personal and it's such a powerful moment in between

00:30:02.470 --> 00:30:06.410
the river and born in the usa music has dynamics

00:30:06.410 --> 00:30:09.650
in it and the loudness war has stopped a lot

00:30:09.650 --> 00:30:12.609
of people in especially younger kids from understanding

00:30:12.609 --> 00:30:15.990
musical dynamics where in a song like stairway

00:30:15.990 --> 00:30:19.710
to heaven by led zeppelin the loudest part of

00:30:19.710 --> 00:30:24.349
the song should not be as audible as the quietest

00:30:24.349 --> 00:30:27.259
part of the song and on the original vinyl When

00:30:27.259 --> 00:30:29.640
Robert Plant is done at the end saying, and she's

00:30:29.640 --> 00:30:35.559
buying a stairway to heaven. It is a lot lower

00:30:35.559 --> 00:30:39.960
than when their full band is blaring. But when

00:30:39.960 --> 00:30:42.859
you listen to recent remasters of it, it's the

00:30:42.859 --> 00:30:47.599
same volume. To me, Nebraska is the dynamics

00:30:47.599 --> 00:30:51.660
of Bruce Springsteen, where the river is high

00:30:51.660 --> 00:30:54.740
and loud and big. And so was born in the USA.

00:30:55.420 --> 00:30:58.579
But Nebraska's the dynamics. And I absolutely

00:30:58.579 --> 00:31:02.140
love the pick. The other thing, right, is that

00:31:02.140 --> 00:31:06.619
Warren talks about in the book that often we

00:31:06.619 --> 00:31:10.220
need to take a step backwards and a moment of

00:31:10.220 --> 00:31:14.319
reflection before we move forward. And they mention

00:31:14.319 --> 00:31:17.799
other creative people that have done that. Yeah.

00:31:17.940 --> 00:31:21.880
And it is a dark album. I mean, the title track

00:31:21.880 --> 00:31:25.160
is about a serial killer, right? You know. Highway

00:31:25.160 --> 00:31:28.220
Patrolman about brothers. You know, there is

00:31:28.220 --> 00:31:33.079
so much used car, so many wonderful story songs

00:31:33.079 --> 00:31:36.160
on that. There's just Bruce and his guitar and

00:31:36.160 --> 00:31:39.220
maybe harmonica. So, yeah, if you've not spent

00:31:39.220 --> 00:31:42.000
time with Nebraska, I think you should do yourself

00:31:42.000 --> 00:31:44.980
a favor and spend some time with it because it

00:31:44.980 --> 00:31:49.140
is rightly considered a gem. And to follow that

00:31:49.140 --> 00:31:51.740
up, that's difficult because I kind of want to

00:31:51.740 --> 00:31:55.460
go. big and loud to get the dynamics at play

00:31:55.460 --> 00:31:57.339
here. But I think I'm going to do this in a,

00:31:57.480 --> 00:32:00.559
I'm going to keep this in Jersey because trapped

00:32:00.559 --> 00:32:04.779
was recorded at the Meadowlands arena. Then you

00:32:04.779 --> 00:32:07.140
hopped in your car, you drove down the turnpike,

00:32:07.220 --> 00:32:09.339
got on the garden state parkway and went down

00:32:09.339 --> 00:32:11.759
to Atlantic city. Now I'm just going to turn

00:32:11.759 --> 00:32:14.119
around and come straight back to the Meadowlands.

00:32:14.579 --> 00:32:17.720
And I'm going to go with the title track of wrecking

00:32:17.720 --> 00:32:21.910
ball. My grandfather was part of the labor foreman

00:32:21.910 --> 00:32:24.670
that helped construct the original giant stadium.

00:32:24.890 --> 00:32:28.369
So this song, when that stadium was being torn

00:32:28.369 --> 00:32:31.890
down, it was tough on my family because that

00:32:31.890 --> 00:32:34.309
was a piece of his legacy that was now going

00:32:34.309 --> 00:32:38.089
to be a parking lot. And when Bruce made that

00:32:38.089 --> 00:32:41.589
part of the theme of this song, it truly resonated

00:32:41.589 --> 00:32:44.759
with me and my family because. The same things

00:32:44.759 --> 00:32:47.480
we were feeling. Here's this person that we don't

00:32:47.480 --> 00:32:49.839
know. He obviously has no connection to us other

00:32:49.839 --> 00:32:52.539
than all being from New Jersey. He was able to

00:32:52.539 --> 00:32:54.680
put into words what we were feeling about those

00:32:54.680 --> 00:32:58.079
moments. And, you know, just from the opening

00:32:58.079 --> 00:33:00.180
lyrics, I was raised out of steel here in the

00:33:00.180 --> 00:33:03.319
swamps of Jersey some misty years ago through

00:33:03.319 --> 00:33:05.460
the mud and beer and the blood and cheers. I've

00:33:05.460 --> 00:33:09.890
seen champions come and go just. Poetic. I absolutely

00:33:09.890 --> 00:33:13.210
love this song. And coming out of Nebraska, there's

00:33:13.210 --> 00:33:17.710
still a touch musically of this Americana, almost

00:33:17.710 --> 00:33:21.549
folk vibe that is woven throughout Wrecking Ball.

00:33:21.750 --> 00:33:25.589
But then the song builds into this massive stadium

00:33:25.589 --> 00:33:30.329
anthem. So to me, it's a nice transition musically

00:33:30.329 --> 00:33:32.690
out of Atlantic City and it keeps us in Jersey.

00:33:33.390 --> 00:33:36.430
And if you're going to name the album. a track

00:33:36.430 --> 00:33:38.410
on the album that better be a memorable Bruce

00:33:38.410 --> 00:33:40.890
Springsteen track. And I think he knocked it

00:33:40.890 --> 00:33:42.630
out of the park with this one. So I'm following

00:33:42.630 --> 00:33:46.349
Atlantic city up with wrecking ball. Um, I love

00:33:46.349 --> 00:33:49.750
wrecking ball. It is one of my favorite modern

00:33:49.750 --> 00:33:52.910
era albums. I think there is so much good on

00:33:52.910 --> 00:33:57.309
there and the idea, you know, hold on to your

00:33:57.309 --> 00:34:00.670
anger, but don't fall to your fears. I was very

00:34:00.670 --> 00:34:06.240
upset unfairly, but when Texas stadium, in Dallas

00:34:06.240 --> 00:34:10.300
was imploded because they now had the new Jerry

00:34:10.300 --> 00:34:13.440
World. I was like, why are they not playing Wrecking

00:34:13.440 --> 00:34:16.079
Ball? Right. Why are they not playing Wrecking

00:34:16.079 --> 00:34:18.840
Ball? Even though it was about, you know, and

00:34:18.840 --> 00:34:21.599
the live version, we're going to tear the old

00:34:21.599 --> 00:34:26.019
girl down. I just love this song. I'm so glad

00:34:26.019 --> 00:34:27.980
that we've got something from Wrecking Ball.

00:34:28.280 --> 00:34:33.800
And it is such a perfect, just an anthem. And

00:34:33.800 --> 00:34:36.059
so I'm going to keep it rolling. We're down to

00:34:36.059 --> 00:34:40.500
our last two songs on the cassette. So from Wrecking

00:34:40.500 --> 00:34:43.239
Ball, let's go 10th Avenue Freezeout. Nice. Right?

00:34:43.400 --> 00:34:46.199
We kind of did Trapped, Atlantic City. Now then

00:34:46.199 --> 00:34:48.300
Wrecking Ball kind of brings us up there, that

00:34:48.300 --> 00:34:52.300
anthem. And then we go right to 10th Avenue Freezeout.

00:34:52.559 --> 00:34:54.599
I don't think there's much that needs to be said

00:34:54.599 --> 00:34:58.360
about this song. It is just an absolute anthem.

00:34:59.500 --> 00:35:01.380
what else could you possibly say? It's one of

00:35:01.380 --> 00:35:05.619
those songs that just emotes what the E Street

00:35:05.619 --> 00:35:09.579
band is all about. It's one of those, what can

00:35:09.579 --> 00:35:12.000
you possibly say that hasn't already been said

00:35:12.000 --> 00:35:13.639
about the song, but I'm just going to leave it

00:35:13.639 --> 00:35:16.320
at the big man joins the band. I mean, that's

00:35:16.320 --> 00:35:18.460
all that needs to be said about this. And now

00:35:18.460 --> 00:35:22.719
I have the challenge of following that up. It's

00:35:22.719 --> 00:35:24.639
really tough. I actually want to do something

00:35:24.639 --> 00:35:27.519
that might be to Bruce fans, a little controversial.

00:35:28.570 --> 00:35:31.150
but I feel like it might actually work here.

00:35:31.789 --> 00:35:35.590
And we have not gone back to the same album twice

00:35:35.590 --> 00:35:38.150
yet. Technically, if you want to count meet me

00:35:38.150 --> 00:35:41.269
in the city and out in the street by association

00:35:41.269 --> 00:35:45.170
from the river box set, you could say that, but

00:35:45.170 --> 00:35:48.869
I think to close outside a, we want people up

00:35:48.869 --> 00:35:51.659
and singing along and dancing. And I just told

00:35:51.659 --> 00:35:53.280
you I have an affinity. If you're going to name

00:35:53.280 --> 00:35:55.460
the album, you better do it right. Let's follow

00:35:55.460 --> 00:35:57.800
up 10th Avenue Freezeout. You said we're going

00:35:57.800 --> 00:36:00.320
to do at least one of them, Born to Run to close

00:36:00.320 --> 00:36:04.980
out Side A. Perfect. I absolutely agree. We don't

00:36:04.980 --> 00:36:07.420
need to justify why we're putting Born to Run

00:36:07.420 --> 00:36:10.440
on there. But I think that is perfect, right?

00:36:10.539 --> 00:36:13.960
That you do the 10th Avenue Freezeout is the

00:36:13.960 --> 00:36:17.219
story of the band. You know, when the big man

00:36:17.219 --> 00:36:20.829
joined the band and people go crazy. Before we

00:36:20.829 --> 00:36:24.269
lost Clarence and even more now. And so to have

00:36:24.269 --> 00:36:29.750
that go into the lights have now gone up in the

00:36:29.750 --> 00:36:33.070
stadium, right? Everyone's screaming and yelling.

00:36:33.269 --> 00:36:38.530
I think that is a perfect way to end because

00:36:38.530 --> 00:36:42.469
now then, you know, everyone is just ready to

00:36:42.469 --> 00:36:46.789
flip over. So, oh, I think that is perfect. That

00:36:46.789 --> 00:36:50.320
is absolutely. And I'm looking at our. goes and

00:36:50.320 --> 00:36:53.159
i'm like that's a hell of a side well that mixtapers

00:36:53.159 --> 00:36:56.320
concludes side a of our ultimate bruce springsteen

00:36:56.320 --> 00:36:59.059
mixtape which consists of meet me in the city

00:36:59.059 --> 00:37:01.980
from the river box set ghosts from letter to

00:37:01.980 --> 00:37:05.260
you out in the street from the river i'm going

00:37:05.260 --> 00:37:08.599
down from born in the usa racing in the street

00:37:08.599 --> 00:37:11.440
from darkness on the edge of town trapped from

00:37:11.440 --> 00:37:14.440
the we are the world compilation atlantic city

00:37:14.440 --> 00:37:17.619
from nebraska wrecking ball from the album of

00:37:17.619 --> 00:37:20.949
the same name and then 10th Avenue, Freeze Out,

00:37:21.050 --> 00:37:25.309
and Born to Run, both from Born to Run. Head

00:37:25.309 --> 00:37:27.889
over to myweeklymixtape .com to hear all the

00:37:27.889 --> 00:37:30.769
songs we've discussed in this mix through the

00:37:30.769 --> 00:37:34.510
playlist embedded on the episode page. Now, before

00:37:34.510 --> 00:37:36.769
we flip the tape over to Side B and I kick that

00:37:36.769 --> 00:37:38.909
off, Jesse, why don't you tell the My Weekly

00:37:38.909 --> 00:37:41.170
Mixtape listeners a little bit about Set Lusting

00:37:41.170 --> 00:37:45.070
Bruce? Absolutely. So Set Lusting Bruce has been

00:37:45.070 --> 00:37:50.300
going on since 2015. What we do is I invite people

00:37:50.300 --> 00:37:54.440
who, not just Bruce Springsteen fans, but someone

00:37:54.440 --> 00:37:59.360
who loves music to join me and we talk about

00:37:59.360 --> 00:38:05.239
how music has enhanced their lives. Whether it's

00:38:05.239 --> 00:38:08.300
Tom Petty, whether it's Aretha Franklin, whether

00:38:08.300 --> 00:38:11.420
it's Leonard Cohen. And so we talk about it.

00:38:11.420 --> 00:38:13.920
We talk about their childhood growing up, what

00:38:13.920 --> 00:38:17.119
kind of music they listened to. What about this

00:38:17.119 --> 00:38:20.219
artist spoke to them? If they've seen them live,

00:38:20.420 --> 00:38:22.579
if they've not, talk about the favorite music.

00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:25.820
So basically, this gives a chance for people

00:38:25.820 --> 00:38:31.800
to share stories about why music, and sometimes

00:38:31.800 --> 00:38:35.420
a specific musician, sometimes a general brand

00:38:35.420 --> 00:38:39.219
of music, why it has meant so much to them. You

00:38:39.219 --> 00:38:41.699
know, Brian, I believe music helps us mourn.

00:38:41.699 --> 00:38:44.699
It helps us celebrate. It helps us grieve. It

00:38:44.699 --> 00:38:49.659
helps us feel joy. And I love capturing that

00:38:49.659 --> 00:38:54.119
story where people talk about seeing Bruce only

00:38:54.119 --> 00:38:56.840
the one time they've seen him or someone who's

00:38:56.840 --> 00:38:59.780
seen him a hundred times, someone who's seen

00:38:59.780 --> 00:39:03.219
Jimmy Buffett 30 times. And so I had someone

00:39:03.219 --> 00:39:06.639
on to talk about his passing. So if you like

00:39:06.639 --> 00:39:09.219
good stories, then I think you will like Set

00:39:09.219 --> 00:39:11.760
Lessing Bruce because that's all it is. It is

00:39:11.760 --> 00:39:15.340
just. Two people having a conversation and talking

00:39:15.340 --> 00:39:20.380
about why music in a specific musician's music

00:39:20.380 --> 00:39:23.039
means so much to them. It was an absolute pleasure

00:39:23.039 --> 00:39:25.260
when I was able to join the show, so I'm happy

00:39:25.260 --> 00:39:29.840
to repay the favor to you here tonight. And like

00:39:29.840 --> 00:39:31.960
I said, I was a little nervous going into side

00:39:31.960 --> 00:39:34.739
A, not knowing where we would head with this

00:39:34.739 --> 00:39:37.940
mixtape. But I think right now the balance that

00:39:37.940 --> 00:39:39.800
we were talking about at the beginning of the

00:39:39.800 --> 00:39:43.820
episode is being achieved. So to kick off side

00:39:43.820 --> 00:39:46.869
B. I want to try to achieve that balance once

00:39:46.869 --> 00:39:49.110
again. So I'm going to start with something.

00:39:49.190 --> 00:39:51.369
You started side A with something that was a

00:39:51.369 --> 00:39:53.710
little deeper. I'm going to start off side B

00:39:53.710 --> 00:39:56.550
with something that's not deep at all. And I'm

00:39:56.550 --> 00:39:59.789
shocked it wasn't a top 40 hit because it's truly

00:39:59.789 --> 00:40:02.530
one of his most beloved songs and a mainstay

00:40:02.530 --> 00:40:05.869
of his live show. I'm going with Badlands from

00:40:05.869 --> 00:40:11.030
1978's Darkness on the Edge of Town. I've read

00:40:11.030 --> 00:40:15.449
and heard other people discuss. that i mentioned

00:40:15.449 --> 00:40:18.710
this earlier darkness reflects the characters

00:40:18.710 --> 00:40:21.590
of born to run getting older and becoming more

00:40:21.590 --> 00:40:24.710
pessimistic about things and when you listen

00:40:24.710 --> 00:40:27.789
to lyrics in badlands like poor man wants to

00:40:27.789 --> 00:40:30.789
be rich rich man wants to be king king ain't

00:40:30.789 --> 00:40:33.989
satisfied till he rules everything you could

00:40:33.989 --> 00:40:37.869
feel the pessimism in that song and Over the

00:40:37.869 --> 00:40:40.389
years, I've loved the relationship that Bruce

00:40:40.389 --> 00:40:43.130
has had with the Dropkick Murphys. He has guested

00:40:43.130 --> 00:40:47.750
on a song on one of their albums. They have jammed

00:40:47.750 --> 00:40:50.550
with him on songs, including American Land from

00:40:50.550 --> 00:40:54.630
Wrecking Ball. Then Bruce joined Dropkick Murphys

00:40:54.630 --> 00:40:58.710
virtually for the COVID lockdown show that the

00:40:58.710 --> 00:41:02.590
Murphys did on the field at Fenway Park, which

00:41:02.590 --> 00:41:05.650
was truly memorable. And the Dropkick Murphys.

00:41:06.159 --> 00:41:08.599
during all of that have covered this song in

00:41:08.599 --> 00:41:11.800
punk fashion and the angst and anger of a punk

00:41:11.800 --> 00:41:15.960
band to me even with all the extra distortion

00:41:15.960 --> 00:41:18.699
and everything bruce's version is still just

00:41:18.699 --> 00:41:21.239
as heavy and still just as angsty as any punk

00:41:21.239 --> 00:41:23.320
band can do it and that's something that was

00:41:23.320 --> 00:41:25.659
hard to capture and he truly captured it on this

00:41:25.659 --> 00:41:28.500
track and i think that's why it's an anthem for

00:41:28.500 --> 00:41:31.320
pretty much every tour since he's been out there

00:41:31.320 --> 00:41:34.940
so i'm kicking off side b with badlands Great

00:41:34.940 --> 00:41:39.139
choice. He often will start a tour with Badlands.

00:41:39.500 --> 00:41:44.579
It is a audience favorite. Those lyrics, as you

00:41:44.579 --> 00:41:49.420
say, are amazing. Well, now I'm trying to decide

00:41:49.420 --> 00:41:51.960
because there's so many places you could go.

00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:55.920
You could go Promise Land. But I think I'm going

00:41:55.920 --> 00:41:59.699
to go. And once again, we're repeating. But I

00:41:59.699 --> 00:42:05.670
think No Surrender is a great. segue from Badlands

00:42:05.670 --> 00:42:09.469
to go No Surrender. I think that gets us off

00:42:09.469 --> 00:42:12.650
to a really strong start. And so, yeah, I'm going

00:42:12.650 --> 00:42:17.110
to do No Surrender from Born in the USA. Born

00:42:17.110 --> 00:42:19.489
in the USA. All right. And that's again, that's

00:42:19.489 --> 00:42:22.489
a quote unquote, I'm going to use the word deep

00:42:22.489 --> 00:42:26.590
cut. Yes. From Born in the USA with a wink, wink,

00:42:26.610 --> 00:42:29.889
nudge, nudge, because let's be honest, anything

00:42:29.889 --> 00:42:33.840
on Born in the USA is not really a. deep cut

00:42:33.840 --> 00:42:36.920
yeah but when you think about it wasn't a single

00:42:36.920 --> 00:42:40.480
nope but there is so much joy in that song 100

00:42:40.480 --> 00:42:46.659
yeah all right well what i'm gonna do is go with

00:42:46.659 --> 00:42:52.280
a song that i loved during my senior year of

00:42:52.280 --> 00:42:59.559
high school yes now i graduated in 1995 and if

00:42:59.559 --> 00:43:03.139
you would have told me That a song that I rocked

00:43:03.139 --> 00:43:05.300
throughout my whole senior year at high school

00:43:05.300 --> 00:43:10.159
was recorded 13 years earlier and should have

00:43:10.159 --> 00:43:14.440
been included or was meant to be included on

00:43:14.440 --> 00:43:17.000
Born in the USA. I wouldn't have believed you.

00:43:17.420 --> 00:43:20.500
But I am going off of his greatest hits album,

00:43:20.780 --> 00:43:25.739
Murder Incorporated. Ooh. Think about this. A

00:43:25.739 --> 00:43:30.019
song that's recorded in 1982. is released in

00:43:30.019 --> 00:43:36.260
1995 with a video that's recorded at, ahem, Tramp's

00:43:36.260 --> 00:43:38.880
nightclub in New York City. I have to throw the

00:43:38.880 --> 00:43:42.059
dad pun in there, but to me, that live video

00:43:42.059 --> 00:43:44.940
was so memorable. You feel the energy of the

00:43:44.940 --> 00:43:49.179
band. This is coming out of a moment when Bruce

00:43:49.179 --> 00:43:52.800
just did Human Touch in Lucky Town. And this

00:43:52.800 --> 00:43:55.119
is kind of getting the E Street Band back together,

00:43:55.199 --> 00:43:57.300
even though the song was recorded earlier. So

00:43:57.300 --> 00:44:00.340
there's an intensity and a vibe on this song

00:44:00.340 --> 00:44:03.679
that I think is on the same playing field as

00:44:03.679 --> 00:44:06.559
Out in the Street because it's timeless. The

00:44:06.559 --> 00:44:09.039
fact that it was released 13 years after it was

00:44:09.039 --> 00:44:12.510
recorded and still made a splash. shows the longevity

00:44:12.510 --> 00:44:14.570
and the power of the song they didn't feel the

00:44:14.570 --> 00:44:17.469
need to try to recapture it and re -record it

00:44:17.469 --> 00:44:19.489
like some of the other songs he put at the end

00:44:19.489 --> 00:44:22.250
of greatest hits they left the original 82 version

00:44:22.250 --> 00:44:25.030
and to me that that speaks volumes it's been

00:44:25.030 --> 00:44:29.929
played over 250 times live but hasn't been played

00:44:29.929 --> 00:44:33.530
since 2017 and to me that's a shame because this

00:44:33.530 --> 00:44:35.309
is an all -time great for him murder incorporated

00:44:35.309 --> 00:44:40.429
i love that pick kind of a surprise pick I love

00:44:40.429 --> 00:44:44.409
that. So I'm going to have to pivot. And based

00:44:44.409 --> 00:44:48.570
on your this was on my list, but I didn't think

00:44:48.570 --> 00:44:51.889
we would get to it. But I'm going with your theme.

00:44:52.289 --> 00:44:55.030
When Bruce was doing Letter to You, there is

00:44:55.030 --> 00:44:58.070
a documentary that's on Apple TV that I recommend

00:44:58.070 --> 00:45:01.949
people watching. It is fascinating because this

00:45:01.949 --> 00:45:04.550
is the first time the band had recorded kind

00:45:04.550 --> 00:45:07.650
of together in a lot of years. And they had talked

00:45:07.650 --> 00:45:11.360
about. quit, let's not play Beat the Demo, right?

00:45:11.440 --> 00:45:13.940
Like Bruce would come in, already have a demo

00:45:13.940 --> 00:45:16.400
of all the songs. And if you're Gary Talent,

00:45:16.639 --> 00:45:18.800
who's the bass player, I've got to play a bass

00:45:18.800 --> 00:45:22.360
better than what Bruce did on the demo. So he

00:45:22.360 --> 00:45:25.900
came in and he just had the songs and he played

00:45:25.900 --> 00:45:28.980
them on his guitar. And you see all the band

00:45:28.980 --> 00:45:31.739
members with their legal pad and pencils writing

00:45:31.739 --> 00:45:35.019
down. He recorded three songs on Letter to You

00:45:35.019 --> 00:45:39.300
that were from the early, early times. And one

00:45:39.300 --> 00:45:44.219
of them, as far as we know, till this tour, had

00:45:44.219 --> 00:45:48.539
only been played once live. It was one of the

00:45:48.539 --> 00:45:50.960
songs he played for John Hammond when he was

00:45:50.960 --> 00:45:54.659
applying, and it was If I Was the Priest. Same

00:45:54.659 --> 00:45:57.579
theme, Murder Incorporated, an older song coming

00:45:57.579 --> 00:46:00.719
back, If I Was the Priest, an absolutely amazing

00:46:00.719 --> 00:46:04.079
song. Little Steven has a great solo at the end.

00:46:04.239 --> 00:46:08.909
He tells the story that John Hammond said, note

00:46:08.909 --> 00:46:10.889
from someone that said if you aren't careful

00:46:10.889 --> 00:46:13.369
you're going to run out of words in the dictionary

00:46:13.369 --> 00:46:16.730
if you keep writing this way and that was bob

00:46:16.730 --> 00:46:19.969
dylan told john hammond that about bruce if i

00:46:19.969 --> 00:46:23.130
was the priest is what outlaw p wanted to be

00:46:23.130 --> 00:46:27.389
and so once again i'm a little surprised letter

00:46:27.389 --> 00:46:30.090
to you is getting two songs but i'm also not

00:46:30.090 --> 00:46:32.489
surprised because it's his latest solo album

00:46:32.489 --> 00:46:36.599
and someone is still in their 70s throwing a

00:46:36.599 --> 00:46:39.300
fastball, to use the baseball metaphor. I was

00:46:39.300 --> 00:46:43.159
in Houston, and Bruce said, I wrote this song

00:46:43.159 --> 00:46:46.280
50 years ago, and I still don't know what the

00:46:46.280 --> 00:46:50.059
F it's about. And we looked at each other, my

00:46:50.059 --> 00:46:53.320
friends, and said, no, no. And when he went into

00:46:53.320 --> 00:46:57.860
If I Was the Priest, we lost our shit. He played

00:46:57.860 --> 00:47:00.000
it in Houston. He played it in Austin. I got

00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:04.150
it twice on the tour and was just amazed. I was

00:47:04.150 --> 00:47:06.429
like, OK, I'm on house money now. He can play

00:47:06.429 --> 00:47:08.869
whatever he wants. I had a five as the priest

00:47:08.869 --> 00:47:11.789
twice. I am over the moon. I will be very curious

00:47:11.789 --> 00:47:15.030
to see how Bruce fans take two songs from Letter

00:47:15.030 --> 00:47:18.289
to You in this mix. But to me, this is up there

00:47:18.289 --> 00:47:20.849
with Ghost as two of the best tracks on the album.

00:47:20.989 --> 00:47:23.489
I also think this is one of my favorite parts

00:47:23.489 --> 00:47:26.630
of that documentary on Apple TV. So I love the

00:47:26.630 --> 00:47:29.869
pick. Well, let me see if what I follow up, if

00:47:29.869 --> 00:47:32.329
I was the priest with falls under your, he could

00:47:32.329 --> 00:47:35.449
play anything now. Cause to me, we're on side

00:47:35.449 --> 00:47:37.909
B of a mixtape. I want to dig a little deeper

00:47:37.909 --> 00:47:41.409
now. Okay. Before we kind of ramp it back up

00:47:41.409 --> 00:47:43.210
at the end with the crowd favorites. Cause again,

00:47:43.250 --> 00:47:45.190
we're trying to strike a balance between big

00:47:45.190 --> 00:47:48.469
hits. And deeper cuts to kind of give people

00:47:48.469 --> 00:47:51.070
a roundabout explanation of Bruce Springsteen.

00:47:51.070 --> 00:47:53.150
And I want to go with a song that I feel might

00:47:53.150 --> 00:47:55.849
be, in my opinion, one of his most underrated

00:47:55.849 --> 00:47:59.929
songs from one of his more recent albums. And

00:47:59.929 --> 00:48:03.210
I'll say more recent, meaning post 2000. Right.

00:48:03.289 --> 00:48:06.969
Bruce had stated about this particular track

00:48:06.969 --> 00:48:10.090
that this is a song about things that shouldn't

00:48:10.090 --> 00:48:14.500
happen here happening here. And I want to go

00:48:14.500 --> 00:48:18.699
off of 2004's Magic. And I want to go with Living

00:48:18.699 --> 00:48:23.400
in the Future. To me, Magic is just an all -around

00:48:23.400 --> 00:48:27.239
underrated Springsteen album. But Living in the

00:48:27.239 --> 00:48:30.679
Future is so underrated, in my humble opinion.

00:48:31.360 --> 00:48:34.019
Like Out in the Street, it has this timeless

00:48:34.019 --> 00:48:36.980
energy to it. If you told me that Living in the

00:48:36.980 --> 00:48:39.820
Future was originally written for Born to Run

00:48:39.820 --> 00:48:42.380
or Darkness on the Edge of Town, I would have

00:48:42.380 --> 00:48:45.659
believed you. Musically, not lyrically, because

00:48:45.659 --> 00:48:48.400
lyrically, the song is definitely rooted in the

00:48:48.400 --> 00:48:51.159
2000s. But musically, you could have told me

00:48:51.159 --> 00:48:52.739
that that music for that song was written for

00:48:52.739 --> 00:48:55.179
those two albums. And I would 100 percent believe

00:48:55.179 --> 00:48:58.579
you. Here's a song with this very happy, inviting

00:48:58.579 --> 00:49:03.519
exterior. But when you dive into it, it's a pretty

00:49:03.519 --> 00:49:07.960
scathing track. And he has explained the meaning

00:49:07.960 --> 00:49:10.179
of the song as political in nature. However,

00:49:10.420 --> 00:49:13.980
when you listen to lyrics like. And what I knew

00:49:13.980 --> 00:49:17.420
had come, stars struck deaf and dumb, like when

00:49:17.420 --> 00:49:19.639
we kissed the taste of blood on your tongue.

00:49:20.159 --> 00:49:23.079
There's many relationship layers, no matter what

00:49:23.079 --> 00:49:25.380
that relationship is, whether you want to take

00:49:25.380 --> 00:49:28.739
it literally or diving into other relationships

00:49:28.739 --> 00:49:33.460
people have. This song, to me, is just an absolute

00:49:33.460 --> 00:49:37.019
classic that I am shocked wasn't a single from

00:49:37.019 --> 00:49:40.239
this album that didn't get... more airplay because

00:49:40.239 --> 00:49:43.219
it's just an amazing, deeper Springsteen cut.

00:49:43.719 --> 00:49:47.079
So Brian, I'm really tempted to do Long Walk

00:49:47.079 --> 00:49:50.940
Home, right? Is that one, two punch, right? Yes.

00:49:51.159 --> 00:49:55.960
Long Walk Home is another amazing song, but you've

00:49:55.960 --> 00:49:59.039
got me in a magic mood. So I'm going to stick

00:49:59.039 --> 00:50:03.420
with magic, but I'm going to change our tune

00:50:03.420 --> 00:50:06.659
just a little bit. We already talked about his

00:50:06.659 --> 00:50:10.780
original Brian Wilson Beach Boy theme song. I'm

00:50:10.780 --> 00:50:13.099
going to do Girls in Their Summer Clothes. Ooh.

00:50:13.900 --> 00:50:17.900
Right? Something that I'm sure most people have

00:50:17.900 --> 00:50:22.519
not heard. It is very much a version of a Beach

00:50:22.519 --> 00:50:26.579
Boy song. A lot of wonderful harmonies in it,

00:50:26.619 --> 00:50:30.039
a lot of strings. I think because they're both

00:50:30.039 --> 00:50:34.480
from Magic, they are a nice little segue. We

00:50:34.480 --> 00:50:38.260
are giving a lot of love to, I think we've done

00:50:38.260 --> 00:50:43.860
a lot of throughout his career. So I'm going

00:50:43.860 --> 00:50:45.559
to do Girls in Her Summer Clothes because one

00:50:45.559 --> 00:50:48.820
of my favorite songs. And so I'm going to throw

00:50:48.820 --> 00:50:51.280
it on there. So I'm going to ask you as somebody

00:50:51.280 --> 00:50:55.719
who's hosted a Bruce Springsteen podcast, if

00:50:55.719 --> 00:50:58.159
you say to people, hey, we put together our 20

00:50:58.159 --> 00:51:01.380
song Bruce Springsteen list and two tracks back

00:51:01.380 --> 00:51:04.179
to back come from Magic. What's the response

00:51:04.179 --> 00:51:06.619
going to be? I'm being genuine when I ask that.

00:51:06.679 --> 00:51:08.420
Would they be shocked? Would there be a lot of

00:51:08.420 --> 00:51:11.079
people that feel the same about this album? So

00:51:11.079 --> 00:51:14.360
I think there are two types of people. There

00:51:14.360 --> 00:51:18.400
are many fans that believe that darkness on the

00:51:18.400 --> 00:51:21.880
edge of town, that 78 tour was the height of

00:51:21.880 --> 00:51:24.539
the street band. There are people that swear

00:51:24.539 --> 00:51:29.059
that the tour they had in 78, there was no better

00:51:29.059 --> 00:51:33.630
tour and that. Darkness was the best album Bruce

00:51:33.630 --> 00:51:42.050
ever did. Other people say magic is a unrecognized

00:51:42.050 --> 00:51:47.050
gem. That many people say that magic, because

00:51:47.050 --> 00:51:51.110
it's the modern era, doesn't get as much love

00:51:51.110 --> 00:51:54.730
as it deserves. Long walk home, living in the

00:51:54.730 --> 00:51:57.599
future, gypsy biker. I'll work for your love.

00:51:57.820 --> 00:52:00.480
Heck, Radio Nowhere. Yeah, Radio Nowhere. Absolutely.

00:52:00.539 --> 00:52:02.599
I could have started this mixtape with Radio

00:52:02.599 --> 00:52:05.579
Nowhere. I mean, just as easy. That is a song

00:52:05.579 --> 00:52:08.760
that just gets you up and moving. I'm hoping

00:52:08.760 --> 00:52:10.860
that we're running out of slots. I was hoping

00:52:10.860 --> 00:52:13.699
to get something from Western Stars. Don't know

00:52:13.699 --> 00:52:15.699
if it's going to happen. I have some of them

00:52:15.699 --> 00:52:20.099
on my thing. But I think people will say it's

00:52:20.099 --> 00:52:22.639
impossible to get everything on there. And if

00:52:22.639 --> 00:52:26.000
you're going to have a modern album. it's kind

00:52:26.000 --> 00:52:27.860
of cool that magic and letter to you are both

00:52:27.860 --> 00:52:30.199
getting some love. Well, we're going to give

00:52:30.199 --> 00:52:32.980
one more, some love right now, because I want

00:52:32.980 --> 00:52:35.579
to go back just a couple of short years prior

00:52:35.579 --> 00:52:40.360
to magic. And I want to go with a song that originally

00:52:40.360 --> 00:52:43.639
was written about Asbury park. However, after

00:52:43.639 --> 00:52:47.539
nine 11 and that opening version on the tribute

00:52:47.539 --> 00:52:52.500
to heroes telethon, my city of ruins became such

00:52:52.500 --> 00:52:57.869
an important. song to me living just on the other

00:52:57.869 --> 00:53:01.329
side of the city. At that point, I was actually

00:53:01.329 --> 00:53:04.389
on a bus heading into New York city during nine

00:53:04.389 --> 00:53:08.550
11 when things were happening. And when I turned

00:53:08.550 --> 00:53:10.889
that telethon on and he opened with this song,

00:53:10.989 --> 00:53:15.750
it spoke to me in words that you could not imagine.

00:53:16.090 --> 00:53:18.590
I had no idea at the time that the song was just.

00:53:18.889 --> 00:53:21.769
written a few years prior. I had no idea it was

00:53:21.769 --> 00:53:25.170
about Asbury Park. To me, Sean Faust had mentioned

00:53:25.170 --> 00:53:27.949
at the top of the show, this song is about joy.

00:53:28.170 --> 00:53:31.670
And it's truly the perfect way to close out The

00:53:31.670 --> 00:53:34.750
Rising. There's a gospel -esque nature of this

00:53:34.750 --> 00:53:38.130
song. The with these hands moment is absolutely

00:53:38.130 --> 00:53:41.849
spine -tingling. And to me, this is going to

00:53:41.849 --> 00:53:44.900
be always ranked in my... probably top five of

00:53:44.900 --> 00:53:47.940
all time. And it could be his most powerful song

00:53:47.940 --> 00:53:52.400
to me just from my personal experiences and how

00:53:52.400 --> 00:53:54.539
this song spoke to me at a time when I needed

00:53:54.539 --> 00:53:59.079
that joy and my city of ruins. I can't picture

00:53:59.079 --> 00:54:01.920
a Bruce Springsteen 20 song list without it.

00:54:01.960 --> 00:54:06.340
So I have to include it here. So the rising is

00:54:06.340 --> 00:54:10.739
the only song that I have seen. I have gone to

00:54:10.739 --> 00:54:15.099
Bruce 19 shows. And The Rising is the only song

00:54:15.099 --> 00:54:18.860
that has been played on all 19 shows. So people

00:54:18.860 --> 00:54:25.380
ask me, when did you become a Springsteen passionate

00:54:25.380 --> 00:54:29.320
slash obsessive? And there's a couple of moments.

00:54:29.519 --> 00:54:34.800
I was a fan of everyone. But after 9 -11, I turn

00:54:34.800 --> 00:54:39.380
on the TV for this telethon, this fundraiser,

00:54:39.380 --> 00:54:43.210
and you see the candles and you hear Bruce. a

00:54:43.210 --> 00:54:45.909
prayer for our fallen brothers and sisters. And

00:54:45.909 --> 00:54:48.869
when they go into that and you hear that rise

00:54:48.869 --> 00:54:54.630
up, rise up, it chills, chills. And then in 2002,

00:54:54.889 --> 00:54:58.929
I saw The Rising was my first tour. And that

00:54:58.929 --> 00:55:02.289
was it. I was sold. I was like, I know this is

00:55:02.289 --> 00:55:06.110
now my guy. This is my band. I will always love

00:55:06.110 --> 00:55:09.329
the Beach Boys and a lot of other bands. But

00:55:09.329 --> 00:55:13.329
Bruce is it. And so. I absolutely wanted something

00:55:13.329 --> 00:55:17.130
for The Rising and My City of Ruins is a perfect

00:55:17.130 --> 00:55:20.230
choice for that reason. I mean, you're telling

00:55:20.230 --> 00:55:23.750
that story and mine was exact. And I think that

00:55:23.750 --> 00:55:27.090
there are hundreds, if not thousands of people

00:55:27.090 --> 00:55:31.429
who saw that and needed that, you know, that

00:55:31.429 --> 00:55:34.690
feeling, that feeling of Bruce and then saying,

00:55:34.829 --> 00:55:40.409
and it feels like it was written for 9 -11, but

00:55:40.409 --> 00:55:43.710
it wasn't. And it's just a perfect song. Yeah,

00:55:43.750 --> 00:55:47.550
I absolutely agree. Ah, so that was strong. So

00:55:47.550 --> 00:55:49.269
we got Living in the Future, Girls in the Summer

00:55:49.269 --> 00:55:55.849
Clothes, My City of Ruins. I think I'm going

00:55:55.849 --> 00:56:00.809
to try to change our tone a little bit. And I'm

00:56:00.809 --> 00:56:05.550
going to go tougher than the rest from Tunnel

00:56:05.550 --> 00:56:08.949
of Love. I was tempted one step up, but I'm going

00:56:08.949 --> 00:56:11.750
to do tougher than the rest. If you push me,

00:56:12.449 --> 00:56:14.630
Tunnel of Love is my favorite Bruce Springsteen

00:56:14.630 --> 00:56:17.929
album. I just love that album. I think it's an

00:56:17.929 --> 00:56:22.769
album that as you grow, the album grows with

00:56:22.769 --> 00:56:25.690
you. You have to have your heart broken a few

00:56:25.690 --> 00:56:29.090
times to really appreciate the songs. The premise,

00:56:29.289 --> 00:56:33.230
this is after he had darned Born in the USA and

00:56:33.230 --> 00:56:36.309
he was married to Julianne Phillips at the time.

00:56:36.570 --> 00:56:39.929
The marriage was not going well. Partly because

00:56:39.929 --> 00:56:43.010
he did not believe anyone could, he wasn't worthy

00:56:43.010 --> 00:56:47.250
of love. And so tougher than the rest is kind

00:56:47.250 --> 00:56:50.909
of a country song, but I just love that. And

00:56:50.909 --> 00:56:55.369
I wanted something from that album. So I think

00:56:55.369 --> 00:56:58.889
my city of ruins flows through tougher than the

00:56:58.889 --> 00:57:01.570
rest. This is one of the songs he did on Broadway

00:57:01.570 --> 00:57:04.920
with Patty. So that's what I'm going to go. Fantastic

00:57:04.920 --> 00:57:06.860
pick. I'm actually surprised you didn't go with

00:57:06.860 --> 00:57:09.000
the Broadway version because that one with Patty

00:57:09.000 --> 00:57:12.619
is definitely memorable as well. But we haven't

00:57:12.619 --> 00:57:16.800
really besides trapped. We really haven't dove

00:57:16.800 --> 00:57:19.039
into a lot of live stuff tonight, which is another

00:57:19.039 --> 00:57:21.699
interesting choice. Put it down tougher than

00:57:21.699 --> 00:57:23.460
the rest from Broadway. Oh, you're going to say

00:57:23.460 --> 00:57:26.039
from Broadway instead. OK. Yeah. Now that you

00:57:26.039 --> 00:57:28.699
said that, absolutely. We need to do that. You

00:57:28.699 --> 00:57:30.159
know, I haven't been thinking which versions,

00:57:30.380 --> 00:57:33.400
but absolutely tougher than the rest from Broadway

00:57:33.400 --> 00:57:37.860
is. Great call, Brian. Well, we have one song

00:57:37.860 --> 00:57:43.059
each left. And we are talking about decades of

00:57:43.059 --> 00:57:47.219
massive hits here. I feel like we've gone a little

00:57:47.219 --> 00:57:50.980
deeper on... side b than we did on side a which

00:57:50.980 --> 00:57:53.599
is the case on a lot of mixtapes because if you've

00:57:53.599 --> 00:57:57.079
got somebody into your mixtape on side a side

00:57:57.079 --> 00:57:59.360
b is where you can kind of try to lure them into

00:57:59.360 --> 00:58:02.320
other bands you're into or other songs or and

00:58:02.320 --> 00:58:04.460
to me i feel like we're giving people a nice

00:58:04.460 --> 00:58:07.739
mix of stuff from all over his career but we're

00:58:07.739 --> 00:58:10.500
at the end of the road here so i want to put

00:58:10.500 --> 00:58:13.059
in a song that everybody knows everybody loves

00:58:13.059 --> 00:58:16.460
everyone's going to sing along and i am so scared

00:58:16.460 --> 00:58:21.239
to say it because I am afraid of the hardcore

00:58:21.239 --> 00:58:26.820
fans maybe going, ugh, all at once. But I told

00:58:26.820 --> 00:58:29.940
you I got born in the USA for I'm Going Down.

00:58:30.300 --> 00:58:32.980
And when my first song that I bought the cassette

00:58:32.980 --> 00:58:36.980
for finished, I heard the opening riff to Glory

00:58:36.980 --> 00:58:40.880
Days. And to me, those two songs back to back

00:58:40.880 --> 00:58:44.239
were what made me fall in love with Bruce Springsteen

00:58:44.239 --> 00:58:47.280
as an artist. And I played those two songs back

00:58:47.280 --> 00:58:50.000
to back. So much as a kid, and I loved them.

00:58:50.400 --> 00:58:54.619
But as an adult, with kids of my own now, the

00:58:54.619 --> 00:58:58.639
lyrics mean a lot more to me than they did when

00:58:58.639 --> 00:59:00.900
I was a kid. Very much the way Cactus Pete said

00:59:00.900 --> 00:59:04.360
it. I hear this song through a new lens now.

00:59:04.559 --> 00:59:07.360
My band covers this song when we play. We call

00:59:07.360 --> 00:59:10.380
it our contractually obligated New Jersey Bruce

00:59:10.380 --> 00:59:13.469
Springsteen cover song of the night. But it's

00:59:13.469 --> 00:59:15.889
one that every time we play it, everybody in

00:59:15.889 --> 00:59:18.710
the room gets up and sings along. And it's one

00:59:18.710 --> 00:59:22.230
of those songs that I know hardcore fans are

00:59:22.230 --> 00:59:24.530
probably tired of hearing because it is what

00:59:24.530 --> 00:59:28.110
made Born in the USA such a big album. And if

00:59:28.110 --> 00:59:30.210
it's not the reason, it's one of the reasons

00:59:30.210 --> 00:59:32.230
because there were so many popular songs from

00:59:32.230 --> 00:59:44.630
that album. Kind of balances out the deeper cuts

00:59:44.630 --> 00:59:48.289
on side B with something that's so big, it kind

00:59:48.289 --> 00:59:50.130
of makes it a little more even playing field

00:59:50.130 --> 00:59:53.170
here. I might have gone Dancing in the Dark instead

00:59:53.170 --> 00:59:55.909
of Glory Days, but I think either one of them,

00:59:55.909 --> 00:59:57.690
for the longest time, he didn't play either.

00:59:58.050 --> 01:00:00.230
I mean, he would not play them both. He is kind

01:00:00.230 --> 01:00:03.829
of now on his tour. I love Glory Days. I think

01:00:03.829 --> 01:00:09.530
Glory Days is a song that, as a fan of music,

01:00:09.949 --> 01:00:14.460
it is hard to get tired of. In that video, that

01:00:14.460 --> 01:00:18.599
video, you wanted to be in that club. You wanted

01:00:18.599 --> 01:00:21.860
to see little Steven playing that mandolin and

01:00:21.860 --> 01:00:26.119
Max twirling the drumsticks. I love glory days.

01:00:26.300 --> 01:00:30.079
I mean, everyone's laughing and joking. And so

01:00:30.079 --> 01:00:35.119
I agree that that is a really, really perfect

01:00:35.119 --> 01:00:39.309
next to last song. Well, that's the penultimate.

01:00:39.409 --> 01:00:42.030
You get to close us out tonight. You kicked us

01:00:42.030 --> 01:00:44.190
off with Meet Me in the City from the Riverbox

01:00:44.190 --> 01:00:47.090
set. Yeah. What are we closing out the night

01:00:47.090 --> 01:00:51.690
with tonight? So when people ask me, what is

01:00:51.690 --> 01:00:55.469
your favorite Bruce Springsteen songs? I always

01:00:55.469 --> 01:01:00.429
say Better Days off his The Other Band, right?

01:01:00.570 --> 01:01:04.389
Because that song says that life is a journey

01:01:04.389 --> 01:01:07.320
and you've got to enjoy that journey. And Land

01:01:07.320 --> 01:01:09.440
of Hope and Dreams. So I saw when I was going

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to be last, I'm like, OK, Land of Hope and Dreams.

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I mean, that's how we're going to end. But it's

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Thunder Road. But it's Thunder Road. It's like

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when I think about it, how can you not? And I

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cannot believe that I have a choice and I am

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not picking Land of Hope and Dreams. But it just

01:01:28.039 --> 01:01:31.380
seems perfect. You hear the Broadway tougher

01:01:31.380 --> 01:01:34.579
than the rest. Glory days. And then you could

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see the band has left. And I would do a solo

01:01:38.559 --> 01:01:41.659
version of Thunder Road, right? Bruce or even

01:01:41.659 --> 01:01:44.900
the band. It doesn't really where he's telling

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us goodbye. The other thing I thought of, I'll

01:01:47.519 --> 01:01:50.119
see you in my dreams because, you know, we love,

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but Letterview's already gotten two songs. So

01:01:53.420 --> 01:01:57.579
I think Thunder Road is, we got Bowling to Run

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and Thunder Road in both of them, but it seems

01:02:00.619 --> 01:02:03.340
like the perfect way to kind of end the side,

01:02:03.480 --> 01:02:08.590
right? This. invitation to join us. Well, and

01:02:08.590 --> 01:02:10.349
there's something about this song I would like

01:02:10.349 --> 01:02:12.809
you to talk about on Set Lusting Bruce, because

01:02:12.809 --> 01:02:15.309
we talked about this and this is something you

01:02:15.309 --> 01:02:17.349
talk about with everybody. And I would love for

01:02:17.349 --> 01:02:20.510
you to explain what that is to the My Weekly

01:02:20.510 --> 01:02:23.650
Mixtape listeners. I would love to do that, Brian.

01:02:23.710 --> 01:02:27.929
So maybe a year, not even two years into my podcast,

01:02:28.130 --> 01:02:32.090
I had a guy named Jay Armstrong join me and he

01:02:32.090 --> 01:02:35.349
was an honors English teacher. And he's a huge

01:02:35.349 --> 01:02:38.150
Bruce Springsteen fan. And he talked about that

01:02:38.150 --> 01:02:42.750
he would give his students the lyrics to Thunder

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Road and they would treat it as if it was a poem.

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They would compare it to like Robert Frost, The

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Road Not Taken. They would talk about and they

01:02:51.309 --> 01:02:56.090
would spend two classroom sessions, days breaking

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down Thunder Road and then discussing it. And

01:03:00.289 --> 01:03:03.909
at the end of the second day. He would ask his

01:03:03.909 --> 01:03:06.429
class, and that was their assignment, does Mary

01:03:06.429 --> 01:03:09.349
get in the car? So when he told me that, I went,

01:03:09.429 --> 01:03:11.829
what are you talking about? Of course she gets

01:03:11.829 --> 01:03:14.769
in the car. I mean, it's in the song. Mary, you

01:03:14.769 --> 01:03:17.070
know, climb in. We're pulling out of here to

01:03:17.070 --> 01:03:19.469
win. He goes, if you look at the lyrics, I'm

01:03:19.469 --> 01:03:21.909
pulling out of here to win. What? Wait a minute.

01:03:22.369 --> 01:03:25.369
So I've listened to the song. And so now then,

01:03:25.550 --> 01:03:29.050
seven years later, I end every podcast with the

01:03:29.050 --> 01:03:32.840
Mary question. I tell my guests beforehand. whether

01:03:32.840 --> 01:03:34.820
they're a Bruce fan or not, I said, listen to

01:03:34.820 --> 01:03:36.820
Thunder Road, read the lyrics, and then give

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your opinion. Does Mary get in the car? Half

01:03:40.920 --> 01:03:43.300
the people say, yes, she gets in the car. How

01:03:43.300 --> 01:03:46.280
could she not? And the other half say, no, she's

01:03:46.280 --> 01:03:48.380
not getting in the car. And they give the reasons

01:03:48.380 --> 01:03:52.940
why. So that's my homework. I give to everyone.

01:03:53.519 --> 01:03:57.199
And you gave a great answer. But yes, so I remember

01:03:57.199 --> 01:04:01.099
a few years ago, Joe Montana was on a sports

01:04:01.099 --> 01:04:03.699
station. And they were talking afterwards what

01:04:03.699 --> 01:04:06.639
a great guest he was. And they said, how could

01:04:06.639 --> 01:04:11.260
someone be that nice? He married Miss World,

01:04:11.539 --> 01:04:14.739
you know, the prettiest girl in the world. And

01:04:14.739 --> 01:04:18.179
when you have the discussion of the greatest

01:04:18.179 --> 01:04:21.639
quarterback of all times, he's in the discussion.

01:04:22.159 --> 01:04:25.159
He may not win. And this was before Brady had

01:04:25.159 --> 01:04:29.000
won all these, right? And so when you discuss.

01:04:29.719 --> 01:04:33.219
The greatest rock song of all times, Thunder

01:04:33.219 --> 01:04:38.260
Road, is in the discussion. And so we've got

01:04:38.260 --> 01:04:40.719
to end with Thunder Road. And I will just tease

01:04:40.719 --> 01:04:43.380
and say, head over to Setlusting Bruce and listen

01:04:43.380 --> 01:04:45.219
to my episode if you want to hear my answer.

01:04:45.280 --> 01:04:48.360
I will not spoil that here. Yes. There you have

01:04:48.360 --> 01:04:51.440
it, folks. Side B of our ultimate Bruce Springsteen

01:04:51.440 --> 01:04:54.639
mixtape, which kicked off with Badlands from

01:04:54.639 --> 01:04:57.559
Darkness on the Edge of Town. No Surrender from

01:04:57.559 --> 01:05:00.809
Born in the USA. Murder Incorporated from his

01:05:00.809 --> 01:05:03.610
greatest hits, If I Was the Priest from Letter

01:05:03.610 --> 01:05:06.329
to You, Livin' in the Future and Girls in Their

01:05:06.329 --> 01:05:09.730
Summer Clothes from Magic, My City of Ruins from

01:05:09.730 --> 01:05:12.489
The Rising, Tougher Than the Rest from the Broadway

01:05:12.489 --> 01:05:15.789
live album, Glory Days from Born in the USA,

01:05:16.070 --> 01:05:19.829
and Thunder Road from Born to Run. Head over

01:05:19.829 --> 01:05:22.530
to myweeklymixtape .com to hear all the songs

01:05:22.530 --> 01:05:25.489
we've discussed in this mix. through the playlist

01:05:25.489 --> 01:05:28.610
embedded on the episode page. Now, Jesse, if

01:05:28.610 --> 01:05:31.949
people want to hear my answer to the Thunder

01:05:31.949 --> 01:05:33.849
Road question, why don't you let people know

01:05:33.849 --> 01:05:35.929
where they can tune into and learn more about

01:05:35.929 --> 01:05:39.510
Set Lusting Bruce? Yeah, Set Lusting Bruce is

01:05:39.510 --> 01:05:42.489
a proud part of the Pantheon Podcast Network.

01:05:42.670 --> 01:05:45.190
I love the fact that I am part of a group that

01:05:45.190 --> 01:05:48.929
does nothing but music podcasts. Yeah, so if

01:05:48.929 --> 01:05:52.110
you look for Set Lusting Bruce anywhere where

01:05:52.110 --> 01:05:55.739
you get your... podcast you can hear us setlustingbruce

01:05:55.739 --> 01:05:59.440
at gmail .com is my email address you can send

01:05:59.440 --> 01:06:04.119
me i am currently on twitter aka x at jesse jackson

01:06:04.119 --> 01:06:07.320
dfw i would love to hear your feedback i'd love

01:06:07.320 --> 01:06:10.780
to hear you curse us on what songs we left i

01:06:10.780 --> 01:06:16.039
have another 12 that we didn't even get to talk

01:06:16.039 --> 01:06:18.699
about right i mean we didn't get anything from

01:06:18.699 --> 01:06:22.059
his first album i had growing up i'd love something

01:06:22.539 --> 01:06:26.099
from Western Star. So yeah, this was a lot of

01:06:26.099 --> 01:06:29.420
fun. And I feel pretty proud of us. I think we

01:06:29.420 --> 01:06:33.699
did a good job of trying to capture the well

01:06:33.699 --> 01:06:36.280
-known songs and mix again with maybe some of

01:06:36.280 --> 01:06:39.559
those rarities that if you're a casual Springsteen

01:06:39.559 --> 01:06:44.300
fan, you have not heard. And hopefully it'll

01:06:44.300 --> 01:06:47.199
make you want to go, well, maybe I should explore

01:06:47.199 --> 01:06:50.590
more of Bruce's music. Amen. And one thing that's

01:06:50.590 --> 01:06:52.909
the beauty of making mixtapes, there's always

01:06:52.909 --> 01:06:56.769
time for a volume two. Jesse, thank you so much

01:06:56.769 --> 01:06:58.730
for joining me on my weekly mixtape. I'm looking

01:06:58.730 --> 01:07:01.230
forward to continuing our musical relationship

01:07:01.230 --> 01:07:03.829
through Pantheon. And it was an absolute pleasure

01:07:03.829 --> 01:07:05.969
having you on tonight. Thank you, Brian. This

01:07:05.969 --> 01:07:08.619
was a joy. Remember, Mixtapers, you can find

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