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Welcome to My Weekly Mixtape, a podcast that

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takes the classic mixtape approach to building

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a modern playlist. I'm your host, Brian Colburn.

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Joining me tonight as guest curator is Jamie

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Detringo, lead guitarist and vocalist for The

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Seas. Jamie, thank you so much for joining me

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on My Weekly Mixtape, man. Thanks for having

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me, Brian. Excited to be here. Well, I'd like

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to start by asking you the same question I ask

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all of my first -time guests, and that is, what

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does the word mixtape mean to you? That is such

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a good question of decades of actual mixtapes

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from physical tapes to CDs to MP3 mixes, but

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anything is just a collection, a smorgasbord,

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if you will. It could be different songs, artists,

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genres, types, filling up a side A and a side

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B and then so on and so forth as in the parlance

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of our times into technology of CDs. But yeah,

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just a random collection of material most of

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the time. And tonight will fall under that random

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-esque nature because we are talking number one

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hits of the 1990s. So this is very similar to

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episode 48, number one hits of the 1980s with

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Patreon mixtaper Ben Checkness. There's going

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to be no deep cuts tonight. We're only talking

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banger after banger after banger. Remember, the

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deepest of cuts we can pick tonight are number

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one songs that only lasted. One week on the chart.

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So even then, it's still a number one hit. So

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trivia time. Something everyone out there can

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use next time it pops up on Jeopardy. How many

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songs reached number one throughout the 1990s?

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Jamie, do you care to even wager a guess at that

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one? Let's say number one songs to the 90s, nine

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years. Let's call it 105. You are actually pretty

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close. The answer is 140. Okay. But that's really

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close. Tonight, you and I are tasked with whittling

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down 140 songs to 20 of the best. How do you

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feel about that? I'm into it. I love to go back

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to the impressionist years of the 90s of the

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growth of myself through the proxy of music and

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MTV and radio. Fantastic. Well, tonight, as I

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mentioned at the top of the show, Jamie and I

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will be curating a number one hits of the 1990s

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mixtape and we'll use the old cassette deck approach.

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Jamie, as my special guest, will begin Side A

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with his first song choice, and then I'll add

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a song that I feel best follows up that choice.

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We'll then flip -flop choosing songs until we've

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mapped out 10 songs for Side A. We'll then give

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our mixtape a proverbial flip and then we'll

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map outside. Be only this time, I'll kick things

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off with Jamie choosing second. Our overall goal

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for this episode is to craft the best number

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one hits of the 1990s mixtape possible through

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only 20 songs. And at the end of the show, you

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can take our conversation to the next level by

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visiting the episode page at myweeklymixtape

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.com where you can give our final mixtape a listen

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via the embedded playlist. And if you like what

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you're hearing on the show, you can help me out

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by either telling a friend, leaving the show

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a five -star review wherever you're tuning in,

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or becoming a Patreon mixtaper at patreon .com

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forward slash myweeklymixtape. And a few Patreon

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mixtapers chimed in with what they think we should

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kick off our playlist with, and I want to give

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a shout out to a few of those. Tom Hutchinson

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said One Week by the Barenaked Ladies as it was

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number one for one week. in 1998, which I immediately

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replied to him. Isn't that ironic? Don't you

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think? However, that only reached number four

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on the charts. So that killed my joke. Chad LaMassa

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first expressed his shock that Nirvana's Smells

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Like Teen Spirit never made it to number one,

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along with the fact that not one of the big four

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Seattle bands, meaning Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Alice

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in Chains and Soundgarden had a number one hit.

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In the 1990s. So instead, he went with Coolio's

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Gangster's Paradise. Ben from the Too Vague podcast

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feels like he should have used his pick for this

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episode for next week's 90s Canadian artists

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episode. And that is Snow's Informer, which spent

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seven weeks at number one, something he calls

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mind boggling. But then he proceeded to share

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with me the fact that Snow recorded the hold

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music. for yahoo and it's available on youtube

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so if you head over to the episode page at myweeklymixtape

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.com i'm going to embed this because you need

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to hear this hold me it's the greatest hold news

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like if we ever did an episode on the greatest

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hold music songs of all time it would be this

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song 20 times in a row Seeker chimed in from

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Australia saying, since I'm Australian, I'm using

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the ARIA charts and will nominate Tomorrow by

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Silverchair, which was number one for six weeks

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in 1994. That just makes me wonder how the hell

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the song didn't chart higher in the U .S. because

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I love that tune. And finally, Philip Bergman

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chimed in with London Beats' I've Been Thinking

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About You. And somewhere on his list is Timmy

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T's One More Try, and he's hoping he's not the

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only one who liked that song. And I will go as

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far as to say that after he posted that, I went

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on social media because I hadn't heard that song

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in a long time. So I queued it up and gave it

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a listen. And strangely enough, I don't remember

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any point in my life when I sat down and listened.

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To Timmy T's one more try from start to finish.

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It may have played at school dances or other

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events I was at, but I don't ever remember owning

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it or having it on any of my mixtapes. However,

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I knew every single word. To that song. And a

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lot of people chimed in with their love of the

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track. And the whole story behind it. Which is

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truly fascinating. If you don't know the story

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behind Timmy T's One More Try. I highly suggest

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looking it up. And going down a little Wikipedia

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rabbit hole. And reading up on that one. It's

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really interesting. So Jamie with that. I'm officially

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pressing the record button on our mixtape. And

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the floor is yours. Why don't you dive into the

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song you're choosing. To kick off side A. Thanks

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Brian. What's interesting and what I was thinking

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about for this mixtape to go by the year 1990,

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91, 92, we each pick one from each year and flip

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it because I think that really gets you into

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the flow of the 90 hits. Maybe not things you

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might be listening to today en masse, but it's

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kind of a throwback to go that way. What do you

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think about that approach? You know what? What

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the hell? Let's go for that because that sounds

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like a lot of fun. I've got my song bank here.

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I am sure that there's at least two songs from

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every year of the decade in here. So let's give

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that a try. 1990. Let's hear what you got. So

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I'm going to go with the anger of 1990 of Madonna

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Vogue. I would say coming out of the 80s for

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Madonna was obviously the rise of her power and

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hold on pop music and Vogue just. The contagious

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beat of that song in the videos of the early

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90s. I think David Fincher might have directed

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that one. You are correct. But that song just

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still stays with your head with all the dance

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moves and all the flavors that came with that

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song. Absolutely love Vogue. Look, I'm not going

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to lie. When I was, I think I was like 11 or

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12 at the time, we'd sit there watching the video,

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doing the hands around, like, you know, boxing

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your face, man. I guess that's what you'd call

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it. But that song. was so amazing because it

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was a throwback single for that dick tracy soundtrack

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i actually really love that album it's called

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i'm breathless she had that song hanky panky

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on there it was just this throwback sound and

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it really kind of reintroduced madonna at the

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time she was one of the biggest artists on the

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planet but it introduced her to some of the older

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crowd that may not have been into her like a

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prayer type pop sound at the time so i love that

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pick And now if I have to stay in 1990, you're

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killing me because that means I only get one

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song from 1990. And I could go with Nelson's

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Can't Live Without Your Love and Affection, Roxette's

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It Must Have Been Love. I mean, God, Sinead O

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'Connor's Nothing Compares to You. One of the

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best covers of all time. It really is. It really

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is. But if I'm going to go with one song from

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1990, and I can't believe I'm actually picking

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something over Nothing Compares to You. I just,

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there's something about this song that hits me

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so hard. And the way I discovered this song was

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actually through something at the New Jersey

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malls and the record shops in the late eighties,

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early nineties. They had a booth with a little

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book and it was called the personics station.

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And you would take this piece of paper and you'd

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go through the book and pick out songs and you'd

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write the number of the song down and then you'd

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bring it to the counter. And does this sound

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familiar? You'd pay 99 cents a song and they

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would record you a mixtape of all songs from

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the book. It was actually purchasing customized

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mixtapes with your own customized J card and

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liner notes. It was awesome. And every month

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they would give away a free song. And I brought

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up one of my cassettes to be made. And I had

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the free song tucked on at the back. And the

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kid behind the counter just went, dude, can I

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give you one small bit of advice or however you

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want to take it? And I said, I'm game. And he

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goes, that free song, start to tape with this

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because you're going to be rocking this song

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forever. It's just that good. And so kicking

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off one of my Presonix cassettes. was alana miles

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black velvet now this is a song that for me i

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know there's a little bit of a cheat going on

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here because the song was actually released in

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89 but guess what it didn't hit number one until

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1990 so it absolutely counts this song is bluesy

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it's soulful there's a touch of southern rock

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and country And yes, there's still a pop element

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to it because if you listen to the rest of Alana

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Miles' self -titled album, Black Velvet's kind

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of an outlier. But it's just such a perfect song.

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To me, it's absolutely timeless and needs to

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be included in a number one hits of the 90s episode

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because sadly, I couldn't include this song in

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the 80s episode because it, again, did not become

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number one until 1990. So Black Velvet by Alana

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Miles. Black Velvet. I mean, It's tough because

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there's so many songs as we look over that list.

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I mean, Ice Ice Baby, that's maybe something

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I'm listening to today. But I mean, that tape

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was huge. Everyone, Vanilla Ice was massive.

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But all these songs are just Jon Bon Jovi, Blaze

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of Glory. Was that the Young Guns 2 soundtrack?

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Yeah, yeah. Wilson Phillips, Hold On. I mean,

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that's... I mean, look, you wouldn't have gotten

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the Dan Banz version of Hold On if Wilson Phillips

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didn't do it first. Definitely not. So many bangers.

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So sticking with this then, we are going back

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to you for now 1991. 1991, man. I mean, I'm just

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trying to think of like, what was I hearing at

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this time at 10 years old as I'm dating myself?

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I mean. CNC Music Factory, Gonna Make You Sweat,

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That's A Thing. I mean, Brian Adams, Everything

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I Do Would Do It For You from the Robert Prince

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of Peace soundtrack. I mean, how huge was that

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song? Speaking of malls, I mean, like, a song

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like that you couldn't avoid. I mean, there's

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so many amazing songs, like More Than Words and

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Extreme, but Brian Adams, Everything I Do Would

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Do It For You. I mean, other than Kevin Costner

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not having a great English accent, that movie's

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fantastic. Alan Rickman, Thrown 100 Miles Per

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Hour. And if it wasn't for that movie, you wouldn't

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have gotten Robin Hood Men in Tights. Let's be

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honest. That's true. And with that, you would

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not have gotten Newfound Glory's incredible punk

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cover of Everything I Do, I Do It For You. That

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is very true. Man, 91 is tough, man. This is

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really tough. There's so many cheeseball routes

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you could go to. Oh, my God. I mean, look, more

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than words by Extreme, I love the Porno Graffini

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album. I'm not going to lie. That song. It's

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so amazing. The video, which Weird Al parodied

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in the You Don't Love Me Anymore video. I mean,

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it was an iconic video. Paula Abdul was everywhere

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in 91. Like, Rush Rush, that was a great ballad

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of hers that many people don't really remember

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because it never reached the massive stratospheric

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heights of every single from Forever Your Girl.

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But that song, to me, still holds up. It's still

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a great pop song. Michael Bolton. I mean, I mean

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everything. God, I am stuck between three songs

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right now. And if I can only pick one song that

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reminds me of 1991, I have to think about where

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I was in my life at this point. And I'm going

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to go back to my eighth grade dance and the song

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that everybody went nuts to the most during eighth

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grade, at least from the boy's side. was because

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Andrew Dice Clay was on the track. And I am going

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to go with EMF's Unbelievable. Unbelievable.

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That song was huge. Talk about like a one -hit

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wonder, like personified. In the U .S. for sure,

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although they had a second song from Schubert

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Dip called Lies that apparently cracked the top

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20 on Billboard. I don't remember hearing it

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that often, but it did make a mark. In the U

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.K., they did have a string of hits throughout

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the early 90s. They're obviously a U .K.-based

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band, so I'm not shocked there. But the only

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one that really made a splash in the U .S. was

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obviously Unbelievable. This song, I mean, just

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the sample of the, oh, like that was something

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that. People went nuts for. And I feel like this

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song, if you play it now, it's still danceable.

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It's still fun. It still holds up. Absolutely.

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And next up, going by the format that you requested

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at the top of the show, we are moving into 1992.

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Now it gets a little bit harder because the choice

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of songs, because of some number one hit rains

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that went on for a very long time. Your choice

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of songs is definitely shrinking down a lot here.

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So what do you got for 1992? It's interesting

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that two of the big hits were covers. I mean,

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talk about like young dances. I mean, Boyz II

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Men, End of the Road on the Boomerang soundtrack.

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I mean, that one, I mean, one of the greatest

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soundtracks ever. I'm going to go, I got to go

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with that. You know, that is so of the parlance

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of the time of 1992. Boyz II Men, that video.

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Yeah. One of my favorite boys to men songs. And

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I'll just say it probably one of my favorite

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ballads of the nineties. For sure. Just the harmonies

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are absolutely stunning in it. The song is insanely

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catchy and it has such soul to it. I mean, look,

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they had this and then they had, I'll make love

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to you, which was like even bigger hit. But at

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the time I was a lot younger end of the road

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resonated with my youth. A lot more than I'll

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Make Love to You did in early high school. This

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is one of those songs that to this day, it's

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still a vibe. And that's a hard thing to do,

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to have a song be so timeless that 30 -something

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years later, it still immediately creates a mood

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in a completely different decade than when it

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was released. Now, I love the fact that Me First

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and the Gimme Gimmes do a fun punk cover of it.

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And I love the fact that the song just has this

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enduring. If this came out in the 70s, I'd buy

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that. Oh, absolutely. I'd buy that it came out

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in the 80s. I'd buy that that song was released

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yesterday. It's timeless. Well, I think the interesting

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experiment of doing this exercise is you look

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at the songs and you're just like. Your head

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spins and you just go zapped back in the past

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because every single song has a different level

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of an emotional quality. If you were, you know,

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you could say that about any decade from whenever

00:16:55.940 --> 00:16:59.399
you were 10, 11, 12 impressionable, you know,

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prepubescent to puberty. Yeah. How much of these

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songs are just like massive. And timeless too.

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You think about like jump by crisscross has been

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used in pop culture and movies and on TV shows.

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I think back to I'm Too Sexy. How many movies

00:17:18.299 --> 00:17:20.539
has that been in? Zooland or all the different

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instances of that song. It's just you hear it

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and you immediately brings you back to 92. I

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got to mention Mr. Biggs to be with you because

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Billy Sheehan was one of the first guests on

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my weekly mixtape. And we talked about that song.

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And to this day, he's still thankful for it because

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he said. Actually, instead of giving the Cliff

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Notes version of this, I'm going to go back and

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play a small clip from episode 13, the ultimate

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Billy Sheehan playlist, because he talks about

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what to be with you means to both him and Mr.

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Big. Mr. Big, for me, was my biggest success.

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And I came out of David Lee Roth. I didn't know

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what I was going to do. Precarious time. Didn't

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have a lot of money. And so I put a band together.

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I knew Pat and Paul. I found Eric. We got an

00:18:08.440 --> 00:18:11.640
amazing manager, Herbie Herbert. And we went,

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after about two and a half years, we scored one

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of the most difficult things to achieve as a

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number one single. So that band beats everything

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to me. And we went through so many amazing adventures

00:18:23.839 --> 00:18:26.920
together. That song, To Be With You, was our

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passport to the entire world. We play it everywhere

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in Indonesia, Australia, Japan, all over Europe,

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all over South America. People worried that To

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Be With You was going to misrepresent Mr. Big.

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Because most of our stuff is straight up rock

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and hard and heavy. And then we come out with

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this little campfire ballad. Oh, it's going to

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be. And they would say, oh, you must be really

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pumped out. Are you kidding me? I'm the happiest.

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We pop champagne every day about that song. It's

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the greatest thing ever after any of us. We love

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that song. And I still do. And I love playing

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it. We look out over a thousand, 10 ,000 or more

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people. And the people are crying. You see tears

00:19:06.279 --> 00:19:09.619
when we played that song. So that, as much as

00:19:09.619 --> 00:19:12.680
I love the flamboyant technical things and all

00:19:12.680 --> 00:19:17.019
that, that song was, that means so much to me

00:19:17.019 --> 00:19:19.720
in so many ways. Yeah, I would have been totally

00:19:19.720 --> 00:19:21.900
remiss if we didn't talk about To Be With You,

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especially after that amazing conversation. So

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go check out episode 13, the ultimate Billy Sheehan

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playlist to hear more about all the things he's

00:19:29.660 --> 00:19:34.649
done with Mr. Big, David Lee Roth, Tallis. niacin

00:19:34.649 --> 00:19:37.509
the winery dog sons of apollo i can go on and

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on and on one of my favorite bass players on

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the planet however back to boys to men here gone

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the fact that boys to men's reign of 13 weeks

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ended with a theme song to the tv show of the

00:19:50.150 --> 00:19:53.890
moment the heights how do you talk to an angel

00:19:53.890 --> 00:19:56.109
was the song that knocked off end of the road

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that's one of those songs where you think back

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and you go that was a moment in time i remember

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when the heights was the big deal I've often

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thought about covering that song to get that

00:20:06.019 --> 00:20:11.440
real, how do you talk to that raspy thing of

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that dude who was on Melrose Place too. My wife

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is definitely more the television fanatic, but

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I want to say it was Beverly Hills 90210. The

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dude's name was Jamie Walters, if I remember

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that part correctly, because that was the music

00:20:23.440 --> 00:20:26.559
side of things. That's a prodigal son of early

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90s Fox network television. Oh, God, yeah. Out

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of all the songs from 1992, you picked one that

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was on the charts for 13 weeks. And I feel like

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the only way to compliment, there's no way. Yes,

00:20:42.980 --> 00:20:45.279
it's a cover song, but there's no way you could

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talk about 1992 and not talk about I Will Always

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Love You from Whitney Houston from The Bodyguard.

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Absolutely. Everybody I knew and their mom had

00:20:54.519 --> 00:20:56.950
this soundtrack. This song was everywhere. And

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let's just be honest. I love Dolly Parton's version.

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It's an amazing song. Whitney's is just unreal.

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It is one of those songs that you listen to her

00:21:07.670 --> 00:21:11.430
voice and you think, how is this possible? For

00:21:11.430 --> 00:21:13.869
her to take a song and just own it the way she

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does. And Dolly Parton is one of the most distinct

00:21:16.230 --> 00:21:19.549
and iconic voices in music history. And Whitney,

00:21:19.670 --> 00:21:22.029
just as effortless as all of her songs, just

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made it her own. Two costar soundtracks, back

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to back. Unbelievable, right? So I don't think

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you could talk about any 90s number one playlist

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without talking about I Will Always Love You.

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Absolutely. I agree. I agree 100%. 93, the list

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is even smaller. Yeah. Man. And now you're coming

00:21:41.640 --> 00:21:44.000
out of I Will Always Love You and End of the

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Road. So we just had this pair of ballads. Do

00:21:46.819 --> 00:21:49.480
you keep leaning into that or do you? Man, I

00:21:49.480 --> 00:21:56.970
don't know. Janet Jackson, that's the way love

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goes. I mean, Janet and Mariah Carey in these

00:22:00.509 --> 00:22:05.089
years were just hit, hit, hit factories. I mean,

00:22:05.170 --> 00:22:07.529
that's the way the love goes. All those videos

00:22:07.529 --> 00:22:11.049
and just like incredible stuff. Especially competing

00:22:11.049 --> 00:22:15.109
with your brother. Right? Hit, hit, hit. But

00:22:15.109 --> 00:22:17.029
that's the way love goes. That's definitely,

00:22:17.269 --> 00:22:21.069
that would be my pick for 93 for number one hits

00:22:21.069 --> 00:22:24.180
for sure. There was no denying Janet Jackson

00:22:24.180 --> 00:22:27.099
in the 90s because Michael Jackson only had two

00:22:27.099 --> 00:22:29.359
number one hits in the 90s, which was Black or

00:22:29.359 --> 00:22:32.059
White and You Are Not Alone. And Janet Jackson

00:22:32.059 --> 00:22:35.839
had six. So this might have been her decade over

00:22:35.839 --> 00:22:38.720
Michael's, even though Michael's the name that

00:22:38.720 --> 00:22:41.359
most people automatically go to because of his

00:22:41.359 --> 00:22:45.599
ridiculous run of hits in the 80s. But now to

00:22:45.599 --> 00:22:51.309
bounce off of Janet Jackson. Oh, man, it's tough.

00:22:52.250 --> 00:22:55.049
Patreon mixtaper Philip Bergman chimed in with

00:22:55.049 --> 00:22:58.670
Snow's Informer. And I won't lie, I had 12 inches

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of snow on cassette. Of course. Everybody knows

00:23:01.549 --> 00:23:04.890
that. So you would not have had Con Calma by

00:23:04.890 --> 00:23:07.549
Daddy Yankee come out a few years ago, which

00:23:07.549 --> 00:23:12.230
was an exact reworking of Informer if the original

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wasn't a banger. No, absolutely. However, I don't

00:23:17.410 --> 00:23:20.390
know if I can go with that. Because when there

00:23:20.390 --> 00:23:23.170
were songs that my parents and I could kind of

00:23:23.170 --> 00:23:26.589
be on the same page musically with, I always

00:23:26.589 --> 00:23:30.269
tried to take those moments. And when an artist

00:23:30.269 --> 00:23:34.109
from their era would release a track that would

00:23:34.109 --> 00:23:37.630
resonate with me, it was always an excuse to

00:23:37.630 --> 00:23:40.490
have that musical conversation. And in 1993,

00:23:41.049 --> 00:23:44.410
Meatloaf dropped, I'd do anything for love, but

00:23:44.410 --> 00:23:47.710
I won't do that. And I had already been very

00:23:47.710 --> 00:23:50.809
familiar with Bad Outta Hell 1. So this was something

00:23:50.809 --> 00:23:53.009
where we could listen to Bad Outta Hell 1 and

00:23:53.009 --> 00:23:56.509
2 together as a family. And those memories mean

00:23:56.509 --> 00:23:59.210
so much to me. And plus, let's be honest, it's

00:23:59.210 --> 00:24:02.170
a long ass song to hit number one for five weeks.

00:24:02.250 --> 00:24:04.630
Even the radio edit was seven, eight minutes

00:24:04.630 --> 00:24:07.190
long and it didn't matter. It was just that good.

00:24:08.150 --> 00:24:11.009
Absolutely. It's a great choice. I was toying

00:24:11.009 --> 00:24:13.849
with that myself, but. I definitely think I listened

00:24:13.849 --> 00:24:16.569
to that John Jackson record still to this day

00:24:16.569 --> 00:24:19.730
because it's just that synthetic sound of like

00:24:19.730 --> 00:24:23.450
the drums and bass and sense of the 90s is just

00:24:23.450 --> 00:24:27.369
like, ah, it oozes just that awesome pop. I love

00:24:27.369 --> 00:24:31.750
it. Well, moving into 1994 now, remember, we've

00:24:31.750 --> 00:24:34.930
already used Boyz II Men's End of the Road, so

00:24:34.930 --> 00:24:39.009
we can't go back to the same band twice. So I'll

00:24:39.009 --> 00:24:41.920
make love to you. And Unbended Knee are removed.

00:24:42.440 --> 00:24:44.859
So we have a total of one, two, three, four,

00:24:44.980 --> 00:24:48.559
five, six, seven songs to choose from because

00:24:48.559 --> 00:24:52.500
I'll Make Love to You was number one for 14 weeks

00:24:52.500 --> 00:24:57.519
again. Yeah. It's crazy how the staying power

00:24:57.519 --> 00:25:00.980
of those songs. I mean, like, I think it would

00:25:00.980 --> 00:25:05.160
be tough not to pick 1994 of a year like that.

00:25:05.240 --> 00:25:08.240
Maybe it's not. my favorite of songs but it's

00:25:08.240 --> 00:25:10.880
still stuck with your head and she's really played

00:25:10.880 --> 00:25:14.839
it all these years but i mean lisa lobe and nine

00:25:14.839 --> 00:25:17.920
stories stay i missed you i mean like how many

00:25:17.920 --> 00:25:20.660
times have you you've sung that at a bar or something

00:25:20.660 --> 00:25:22.920
like that not to say that these other songs you

00:25:22.920 --> 00:25:26.160
have not but that video and i don't know what

00:25:26.160 --> 00:25:27.640
i just saw her and maybe it was it was an old

00:25:27.640 --> 00:25:29.720
30 rock episode i think she might have been like

00:25:29.720 --> 00:25:35.000
that's just like a timeless of 1994 lisa lobe

00:25:35.720 --> 00:25:40.619
We watched recently, she was on an episode of

00:25:40.619 --> 00:25:45.180
Name That Tune, and we got a kick out of her

00:25:45.180 --> 00:25:48.759
doing that show. She's got a great radio show

00:25:48.759 --> 00:25:52.079
over on XM, interviews a lot of great artists.

00:25:52.279 --> 00:25:55.339
I love Lisa Loeb. She is just one of those people

00:25:55.339 --> 00:25:58.359
that you hear her voice and you instantly know

00:25:58.359 --> 00:26:02.140
who it is. It's just such a unique, distinct

00:26:02.140 --> 00:26:05.259
voice. Believe it or not, my favorite song from

00:26:05.259 --> 00:26:08.279
Lisa Loeb only cracked the top 20 and that was

00:26:08.279 --> 00:26:11.380
Do You Sleep? But obviously there's no denying

00:26:11.380 --> 00:26:17.259
how massive Stay was in 1994. Absolutely. Now

00:26:17.259 --> 00:26:22.700
for me, for my 1994 pick, there's only one song

00:26:22.700 --> 00:26:25.140
I could do because this is my junior year of

00:26:25.140 --> 00:26:27.460
high school leading into my senior year of high

00:26:27.460 --> 00:26:32.359
school. 1994 was when I played senior high school

00:26:32.359 --> 00:26:36.400
football. And after every win, we would rock

00:26:36.400 --> 00:26:39.960
one song after a victory in the locker room.

00:26:40.359 --> 00:26:43.079
And to me, that song will always put a smile

00:26:43.079 --> 00:26:45.299
on my face because it was always after. Now,

00:26:45.299 --> 00:26:47.500
we never played it after a loss, only the wins.

00:26:48.180 --> 00:26:51.279
So every time we got to plug in any kamosis,

00:26:51.339 --> 00:26:54.299
here comes the hot stepper. That means we just

00:26:54.299 --> 00:26:56.559
won a game. I hear that song now and that beat

00:26:56.559 --> 00:26:59.160
hits. I'm back in the locker room with my high

00:26:59.160 --> 00:27:02.640
school buddy celebrating a victory. And it just

00:27:02.640 --> 00:27:04.900
puts a smile on my face. I love the song. And

00:27:04.900 --> 00:27:07.400
when you're ending a side here, because we are

00:27:07.400 --> 00:27:10.880
at the end of side A, it kind of balances out

00:27:10.880 --> 00:27:13.039
with the opening of Madonna's Vogue for something

00:27:13.039 --> 00:27:17.019
kind of up and dancing. 100%. That's a banger.

00:27:17.079 --> 00:27:19.359
I mean, Ace of Base, the sign was definitely

00:27:19.359 --> 00:27:24.940
the one that was speaking to me just of the saccharine

00:27:24.940 --> 00:27:29.740
-ness of the videos of those families. But, I

00:27:29.740 --> 00:27:31.980
mean. Lisa Loeb, Stay, Miss You. And yeah, I

00:27:31.980 --> 00:27:34.579
mean, Here Comes the Hot Stepper, that was a

00:27:34.579 --> 00:27:36.680
banger. It still played a lot. You could still

00:27:36.680 --> 00:27:38.640
hear that song for sure. Yeah, I will be the

00:27:38.640 --> 00:27:41.519
first to admit that The Sign was definitely the

00:27:41.519 --> 00:27:44.640
song that was bigger to end the side with. However,

00:27:44.859 --> 00:27:47.640
I don't have any good memories of dancing to

00:27:47.640 --> 00:27:50.259
The Sign, but Here Comes the Hot Stepper, I rocked

00:27:50.259 --> 00:27:52.740
that to with my boys back in high school. I mean,

00:27:52.779 --> 00:27:56.579
that one holds a special place. But there you

00:27:56.579 --> 00:27:59.440
have it, folks. Side A of our number one hits

00:27:59.440 --> 00:28:02.380
of the 90s mixtape, which kicked off with Madonna's

00:28:02.380 --> 00:28:06.160
Vogue, Alana Miles' Black Velvet. That was 1990.

00:28:06.799 --> 00:28:09.539
Bryan Adams' Everything I Do, I Do It For You

00:28:09.539 --> 00:28:14.380
and EMF's Unbelievable from 1991. Boyz II Men's

00:28:14.380 --> 00:28:16.559
End of the Road and Whitney Houston's I Will

00:28:16.559 --> 00:28:20.589
Always Love You from 1992. Janet Jackson's That's

00:28:20.589 --> 00:28:22.950
the Way Love Goes and Meatloaf's I Would Do Anything

00:28:22.950 --> 00:28:27.009
for Love But I Won't Do That from 1993. And Lisa

00:28:27.009 --> 00:28:30.329
Loeb and Nine Stories Stay and Eni Kamosi's Here

00:28:30.329 --> 00:28:34.450
Comes the Hot Stepper from 1994. Head over to

00:28:34.450 --> 00:28:37.230
myweeklymixtape .com to hear all the songs we've

00:28:37.230 --> 00:28:40.650
discussed in this mix through the playlist embedded

00:28:40.650 --> 00:28:44.950
on the episode page. Now, Jamie, this past November,

00:28:45.210 --> 00:28:48.829
the C's released their debut album, Conversations

00:28:48.829 --> 00:28:52.630
With My Future Self. Yes, it did. Great day.

00:28:52.829 --> 00:29:41.480
It was a great November. What you're hearing

00:29:41.480 --> 00:29:45.160
now is a clip of The Calling, which is the album's

00:29:45.160 --> 00:29:48.880
opening track. Now, Jamie, thematically, you've

00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:51.660
said that this album is based on your love for

00:29:51.660 --> 00:29:54.980
Back to the Future, which I can promise you just

00:29:54.980 --> 00:29:58.039
made the My Weekly Mixtape listeners' ears perk

00:29:58.039 --> 00:30:00.480
up. So can you elaborate on that a little bit?

00:30:00.960 --> 00:30:04.839
Sure. I mean, you teed up it perfectly for what

00:30:04.839 --> 00:30:08.259
we're doing here with the 90s song experiments,

00:30:10.279 --> 00:30:13.200
writing these songs that you're looking for,

00:30:13.319 --> 00:30:15.960
but always taking two steps back and being Marty

00:30:15.960 --> 00:30:19.859
McFly and, you know, going into a DeLorean traveling

00:30:19.859 --> 00:30:22.279
from 1985 kind of seems like what we've been

00:30:22.279 --> 00:30:24.500
stuck in the last four years during the pandemic

00:30:24.500 --> 00:30:27.500
that things were shut down. Do you go outside?

00:30:27.799 --> 00:30:30.680
Do you stay in? When was it okay? If time felt

00:30:30.680 --> 00:30:34.519
very weird, I think we're still negotiating what

00:30:34.519 --> 00:30:38.789
timing feels like now. It gives you ample time

00:30:38.789 --> 00:30:40.730
to really think about and put things in perspective.

00:30:40.829 --> 00:30:44.329
And a lot of songs on the album are reflective

00:30:44.329 --> 00:30:48.269
of what would it be like to go backwards, to

00:30:48.269 --> 00:30:51.450
go forward, sometimes literally, sometimes veiled.

00:30:51.509 --> 00:30:54.289
But Conversation With My Future Self is a fascination

00:30:54.289 --> 00:30:57.829
of if you were to go in the future and have a

00:30:57.829 --> 00:30:59.809
conversation with yourself, what would that be?

00:30:59.849 --> 00:31:02.130
What would you say? What would you do? And it's

00:31:02.130 --> 00:31:04.569
kind of a fascinating thing after we were frozen

00:31:04.569 --> 00:31:07.400
for a little bit. in those first couple of months

00:31:07.400 --> 00:31:10.859
in March 2020. And it gave me the perspective

00:31:10.859 --> 00:31:13.480
to kind of, you know, whoa, there's bigger things

00:31:13.480 --> 00:31:17.180
at play here, you know, and let's all get together

00:31:17.180 --> 00:31:20.460
here and figure out a better way forward. Next

00:31:20.460 --> 00:31:23.359
up, I'd like to share a clip of the trippy end

00:31:23.359 --> 00:31:55.789
of scene. This song has a really unique mixture

00:31:55.789 --> 00:31:59.369
of vibes. I'm hearing this kind of stoner rock

00:31:59.369 --> 00:32:03.650
riff with elements of psychedelic rock. And it

00:32:03.650 --> 00:32:08.029
truly feels like in the album's listen, what

00:32:08.029 --> 00:32:11.950
I would describe as a musical dream sequence.

00:32:12.089 --> 00:32:14.470
And I'd love to know the background about this

00:32:14.470 --> 00:32:18.650
song. Yeah. And it's good with side A and side

00:32:18.650 --> 00:32:23.509
B of a mixtape. It's a side B of a vinyl, meaning

00:32:23.509 --> 00:32:28.930
that the first four tracks and the preceding

00:32:28.930 --> 00:32:32.569
track moments is more of a calming feel that

00:32:32.569 --> 00:32:36.490
eases you into a, I like to call it a David Lynchian

00:32:36.490 --> 00:32:40.490
red room hellscape of coming out of just this

00:32:40.490 --> 00:32:45.069
weird heaviness. And the song is about, you know,

00:32:45.089 --> 00:32:49.329
rain, shine, day, night, feeling this level of

00:32:49.329 --> 00:32:53.210
getting, and mired in this darkness and coming

00:32:53.210 --> 00:32:57.250
out into the end of the light with some, you

00:32:57.250 --> 00:33:00.450
know, the musical changes and the synthesizers

00:33:00.450 --> 00:33:04.549
are kind of really a throwback to 80s John Carpenter

00:33:04.549 --> 00:33:07.930
type of soundtracks to have that real feeling

00:33:07.930 --> 00:33:10.970
like you're watching the thing, but you're listening

00:33:10.970 --> 00:33:13.769
to a track. Being someone who loves a horror

00:33:13.769 --> 00:33:16.009
movie and sci -fi, yeah, it just has that real

00:33:16.009 --> 00:33:18.670
emotional quotient to it of, you know, the album

00:33:18.670 --> 00:33:21.609
is all over the place. feel -wise and sound -wise.

00:33:21.809 --> 00:33:25.269
And that song is definitely one of the heavier

00:33:25.269 --> 00:33:28.670
ones, which we really enjoy playing. Well, bouncing

00:33:28.670 --> 00:33:31.769
off that, I want to play a song that also has

00:33:31.769 --> 00:33:33.670
a different vibe from that. And I'm going to

00:33:33.670 --> 00:34:22.139
share a clip of the Anthemic Voices. This is

00:34:22.139 --> 00:34:24.760
a massive track that comes towards the tail end

00:34:24.760 --> 00:34:28.679
of the album. And overall, I feel like this album

00:34:28.679 --> 00:34:32.300
is extremely dynamic when you listen to it as

00:34:32.300 --> 00:34:35.820
an actual album from track one all the way to

00:34:35.820 --> 00:34:39.579
the end. I hear a musical story with definite

00:34:39.579 --> 00:34:42.679
peaks and valleys in the songs. Did you write

00:34:42.679 --> 00:34:45.260
this saying, okay, this next song needs to come

00:34:45.260 --> 00:34:47.699
down a little bit? Or was that something that

00:34:47.699 --> 00:34:51.719
was just... A perfect exercise in sequencing

00:34:51.719 --> 00:34:54.820
what you had recorded. Excellent question. And

00:34:54.820 --> 00:34:59.260
I'd be lying if I said it was somewhat conscious

00:34:59.260 --> 00:35:03.800
at the jump. It kind of all fell together during

00:35:03.800 --> 00:35:06.960
the process. You know, your subconscious is talking

00:35:06.960 --> 00:35:09.519
to your consciousness as like, oh, this all is

00:35:09.519 --> 00:35:12.380
making sense. It's all dealing with different

00:35:12.380 --> 00:35:16.940
fields of loss and yet hope. And, you know, voices

00:35:16.940 --> 00:35:20.539
was. Just the chord progression was something

00:35:20.539 --> 00:35:24.440
I wrote. And then the words came from on my apartment

00:35:24.440 --> 00:35:28.079
balcony in Greenpoint, Brooklyn in the summer

00:35:28.079 --> 00:35:30.400
of 2020 when the first responders were banging

00:35:30.400 --> 00:35:33.659
on pots and pans and just strumming away. And

00:35:33.659 --> 00:35:36.559
you really felt this connection, yet you couldn't

00:35:36.559 --> 00:35:40.380
really connect yet until you could. And it was

00:35:40.380 --> 00:35:44.539
very kind of like biting your thumb and a middle

00:35:44.539 --> 00:35:48.610
finger to people that were weather. They were

00:35:48.610 --> 00:35:50.630
saying things weren't as bad as they were or

00:35:50.630 --> 00:35:52.469
whatever it was when things were kind of chaos.

00:35:52.610 --> 00:35:54.429
It's like, hey, we could all get together here

00:35:54.429 --> 00:35:56.190
and do better. We could fight this oppression.

00:35:56.409 --> 00:35:59.210
We could knock down these walls, you know, whether

00:35:59.210 --> 00:36:01.710
it's a physical wall or emotional wall, whatever

00:36:01.710 --> 00:36:04.530
it might be, just, you know, it was kind of written

00:36:04.530 --> 00:36:08.030
in a way to just peek and say thank you to New

00:36:08.030 --> 00:36:11.590
York and our resilience during those crazy times

00:36:11.590 --> 00:36:14.429
when it was a little bit like zombie apocalypse

00:36:14.429 --> 00:36:17.199
in the beginning of things. Well, we're going

00:36:17.199 --> 00:36:19.380
to talk a little bit more about conversations

00:36:19.380 --> 00:36:22.280
with my future self after we get through side

00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:25.300
B, but let's jump into that now, which if I'm

00:36:25.300 --> 00:36:27.360
not mistaken, if I'm doing my math correct, we

00:36:27.360 --> 00:36:30.679
should be starting off with 1995 and I'm kicking

00:36:30.679 --> 00:36:34.119
off side B. And I think there's only one way

00:36:34.119 --> 00:36:36.539
you can do it because if you're starting a side

00:36:36.539 --> 00:36:38.139
of a mixtape, you got to get people's attention

00:36:38.139 --> 00:36:42.300
right away. And I think in 1995, again, this

00:36:42.300 --> 00:36:45.300
is senior year in high school for me. Nothing

00:36:45.300 --> 00:36:48.199
got people's attention more than the six words.

00:36:49.099 --> 00:36:53.320
This is how we do it. Montel Jordan. Inescapable.

00:36:53.400 --> 00:36:56.420
The song was everywhere. And yet nobody ever

00:36:56.420 --> 00:36:59.559
said, I'm getting sick of this song. Every time

00:36:59.559 --> 00:37:02.780
it came on, the place was going insane. And I

00:37:02.780 --> 00:37:05.980
think it still holds up to this day as a banger

00:37:05.980 --> 00:37:08.860
of a dance song. So Montel Jordan, this is how

00:37:08.860 --> 00:37:12.219
we do it. Seven weeks at number one. Yeah, you

00:37:12.219 --> 00:37:17.920
took my pick. So good. I mean, I mean, this talk

00:37:17.920 --> 00:37:21.420
about a prolific banger of a tune. I mean, I'm

00:37:21.420 --> 00:37:23.579
going to go a different route and kind of go

00:37:23.579 --> 00:37:27.619
with a timelessness. And after watching a movie

00:37:27.619 --> 00:37:30.519
that preceded this one the other day, kind of

00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:33.460
on brand to take seal kiss from a rose. Watch

00:37:33.460 --> 00:37:35.880
Batman Returns on a rewatch yesterday. Not Batman

00:37:35.880 --> 00:37:38.739
Forever with Val Kilmer. Who didn't get is just

00:37:38.739 --> 00:37:42.099
just do I. Even though it was the Joel Schumacher

00:37:42.099 --> 00:37:45.059
crazy universe. But I mean, Kiss from a Rose.

00:37:45.179 --> 00:37:47.320
I mean, how many times are you singing that in

00:37:47.320 --> 00:37:49.360
a karaoke? You're like, how many steps? You feel

00:37:49.360 --> 00:37:53.239
like it's a huge seal. I mean, it's a great one.

00:37:53.320 --> 00:37:54.920
There's so many choices, but I'm going to go

00:37:54.920 --> 00:37:59.960
with that. He has such an incredible voice. I

00:37:59.960 --> 00:38:02.940
mean, Crazy is one of those songs back in the

00:38:02.940 --> 00:38:06.739
early 90s that I was shocked wasn't a number

00:38:06.739 --> 00:38:10.650
one hit for him. Crazy was everywhere. I love

00:38:10.650 --> 00:38:14.369
that song so much. I mean, it's a great pick.

00:38:14.710 --> 00:38:18.449
Obviously, the movie, I don't have the greatest

00:38:18.449 --> 00:38:24.110
of memories of Batman Forever. Maybe I should,

00:38:24.190 --> 00:38:25.989
but I mean, it had a hell of a soundtrack. I

00:38:25.989 --> 00:38:28.469
will give it that. Between Kiss from a Rose by

00:38:28.469 --> 00:38:31.550
Seal, you had U2's Hold Me, Thrill Me, Kiss Me,

00:38:31.590 --> 00:38:34.650
Kill Me. You had The Offspring's cover of The

00:38:34.650 --> 00:38:38.480
Dams, Smash It Up. This soundtrack was awesome.

00:38:38.659 --> 00:38:42.880
The movie? Yeah. I mean, it was definitely a

00:38:42.880 --> 00:38:47.179
choice with Jim Carrey as Riddler, Tom Milley

00:38:47.179 --> 00:38:51.239
-Jones as Two -Face. Was that Nicole Kidman was

00:38:51.239 --> 00:38:55.079
in it? I mean, it was, yeah. I enjoyed it in

00:38:55.079 --> 00:38:56.920
a different way than I've been watching the Batman

00:38:56.920 --> 00:38:59.099
with Robert Pattinson or the Christopher Nolan

00:38:59.099 --> 00:39:02.119
verse. Totally different vibes there. Very popcorn

00:39:02.119 --> 00:39:05.039
-y, just sack, just like shoot in my veins. It's

00:39:05.039 --> 00:39:08.599
fun. It's stupid. I would be wrong to not acknowledge

00:39:08.599 --> 00:39:12.900
the fact that both of us skipped the song that

00:39:12.900 --> 00:39:15.539
had the longest reign of being a number one in

00:39:15.539 --> 00:39:19.579
the 90s, which was Mariah Carey and Boyz II Men's

00:39:19.579 --> 00:39:22.659
One Sweet Day. Could not escape it. But we did

00:39:22.659 --> 00:39:24.940
have Boyz II Men on, so maybe Mariah will get

00:39:24.940 --> 00:39:27.840
her just due at some point here. But moving into

00:39:27.840 --> 00:39:34.469
1996, coming out of Montel Jordan and Seal. There's

00:39:34.469 --> 00:39:38.050
not a ton of number one songs because Los Del

00:39:38.050 --> 00:39:41.570
Rios Macarena took it over for 14 weeks. Seems

00:39:41.570 --> 00:39:44.449
like it was longer than 14. It feels like it's

00:39:44.449 --> 00:39:46.949
still number one, right? I'm not going to lie.

00:39:47.010 --> 00:39:49.789
That one did not hold up for me. I still have

00:39:49.789 --> 00:39:53.719
PTSD. From hearing that song on every radio station

00:39:53.719 --> 00:39:56.920
24 -7 around the clock, the video, every dance

00:39:56.920 --> 00:40:00.199
club, every elevator, every food store, you could

00:40:00.199 --> 00:40:02.639
not escape the Macarena. And when the song was

00:40:02.639 --> 00:40:05.400
playing, people were essentially doing the dance,

00:40:05.460 --> 00:40:07.960
whether it was in the stands or in the elevator

00:40:07.960 --> 00:40:11.639
or in the food store. That song just PTSD. However.

00:40:12.280 --> 00:40:14.619
One of the greatest dance songs of the 90s was

00:40:14.619 --> 00:40:17.940
the song to knock Macarena off the charts and

00:40:17.940 --> 00:40:21.539
become number one for four weeks, starting in

00:40:21.539 --> 00:40:25.320
November of 1996. And I'm going to go with Black

00:40:25.320 --> 00:40:28.519
Street featuring Dr. Dre, No Diggity. I mean,

00:40:28.579 --> 00:40:32.199
it's fitting the vibe we're going for, for this

00:40:32.199 --> 00:40:35.539
side of the tape so far. And that opening, once

00:40:35.539 --> 00:40:40.059
you hear that, like, that's it. It's going to

00:40:40.059 --> 00:40:44.000
be nuts. Yeah. The song has such a unique groove.

00:40:44.119 --> 00:40:47.559
It works for hip hop and it works for R &B. And

00:40:47.559 --> 00:40:49.940
yet bands have been able to cover it. Virginia

00:40:49.940 --> 00:40:53.420
Coalition did a version back in the early 2000s.

00:40:53.420 --> 00:40:55.780
You had Ali Brown, who is a blues guitarist,

00:40:55.780 --> 00:40:58.780
do a blues rock version of it. And every single

00:40:58.780 --> 00:41:02.900
time it works so well. Why is that? Because the

00:41:02.900 --> 00:41:07.710
song itself. is a friggin' masterclass in catchiness.

00:41:07.889 --> 00:41:10.550
I mean, Dr. Dre could pretty much do no wrong

00:41:10.550 --> 00:41:13.369
in the 90s, and what he brought to Blackstreet

00:41:13.369 --> 00:41:16.610
with this song made a timeless dance classic

00:41:16.610 --> 00:41:21.369
that I think 30 and 40 years from now will still

00:41:21.369 --> 00:41:25.389
hold the power it did in November of 96. So I'm

00:41:25.389 --> 00:41:28.210
going with Blackstreet featuring Dr. Dre, no

00:41:28.210 --> 00:41:31.690
diggity, no doubt. I'm going to stick with the

00:41:31.690 --> 00:41:35.730
Interscope Records because, I mean, Tupac, How

00:41:35.730 --> 00:41:38.190
Do You Want It, California Love. I mean, just,

00:41:38.329 --> 00:41:43.050
Pac, I mean, the label just released those two

00:41:43.050 --> 00:41:45.590
songs in the same year. I mean, it's like, come

00:41:45.590 --> 00:41:47.889
on. I mean, those are ridiculous tracks. There's

00:41:47.889 --> 00:41:50.670
so many other great, I mean, Tony Braxton has

00:41:50.670 --> 00:41:53.550
two songs. We've even invoked Tony Braxton as

00:41:53.550 --> 00:41:56.929
a hit factory, but I'm going to go Tupac with

00:41:56.929 --> 00:42:01.590
KC and JoJo, Dr. Dre, How Do You Want It, California

00:42:01.590 --> 00:42:05.719
Love. Yeah. California love is ridiculous. That

00:42:05.719 --> 00:42:09.739
was originally recorded for the sequel to the

00:42:09.739 --> 00:42:13.500
chronic, not the chronic 2001, but an album called

00:42:13.500 --> 00:42:17.239
the chronic to a new world odor. Papa's got a

00:42:17.239 --> 00:42:19.760
brand new funk. However, that album never came

00:42:19.760 --> 00:42:23.440
to fruition. So technically that was only a single.

00:42:23.500 --> 00:42:26.340
It was never on a Tupac album, except for his

00:42:26.340 --> 00:42:30.500
greatest hits and the UK version of all eyes

00:42:30.500 --> 00:42:33.920
on me, which doesn't count. So, I mean, that

00:42:33.920 --> 00:42:39.840
song is, again, you play it now and it's timeless.

00:42:40.059 --> 00:42:42.539
It's timeless. It fits in with anything on the

00:42:42.539 --> 00:42:47.119
radio now and is as good, if not better. Absolutely.

00:42:47.800 --> 00:42:50.860
Well, I mean, look, if we're talking 90s and

00:42:50.860 --> 00:42:54.659
we're going in the 97 now, there's only one thing

00:42:54.659 --> 00:42:58.440
you could follow up Tupac with. And we got to

00:42:58.440 --> 00:43:01.300
go Notorious B .I .G., Hypnotize, Life After

00:43:01.300 --> 00:43:04.940
Death, Three Weeks at Number One, Inescapable.

00:43:05.300 --> 00:43:08.760
Again, this is how we do it. No diggity. California

00:43:08.760 --> 00:43:11.820
Love and Hypnotize. These are all songs you will

00:43:11.820 --> 00:43:16.300
hear at weddings, parties, dance clubs. They're

00:43:16.300 --> 00:43:21.059
absolutely timeless. And I think it's kind of

00:43:21.059 --> 00:43:23.239
fitting to talk about Tupac and Notorious B .I

00:43:23.239 --> 00:43:25.559
.G. back to back, given their whole story in

00:43:25.559 --> 00:43:28.099
the 90s as well. 100%. Yeah, that was definitely

00:43:28.099 --> 00:43:31.900
my choice as well. I mean, I guess we'll go with

00:43:31.900 --> 00:43:35.599
a lasting power that is similar to like Lisa

00:43:35.599 --> 00:43:40.860
Loeb. I mean, Hanson, Mbop. I mean, talk about

00:43:40.860 --> 00:43:45.900
timeless. I mean, when you see it's three weeks,

00:43:46.099 --> 00:43:48.519
that doesn't sound, again, it seems like it's

00:43:48.519 --> 00:43:53.179
still stuck in the so 1997. And I don't mean

00:43:53.179 --> 00:43:55.800
that in any bad way whatsoever. I mean, that

00:43:55.800 --> 00:43:59.440
was huge, that song. And it's getting a resurgence

00:43:59.440 --> 00:44:04.780
in 2023 and 2024 due to Busted doing a punk cover

00:44:04.780 --> 00:44:09.000
of Mbop with the members of Hanson called Mbop

00:44:09.000 --> 00:44:13.059
2 .0. I have not heard that. Honestly, it's wild.

00:44:13.159 --> 00:44:16.320
And you go back and listen to it, and they really,

00:44:16.340 --> 00:44:18.920
because they're older now, you hear the lyrics

00:44:18.920 --> 00:44:21.119
a little bit more and you're going, this was

00:44:21.119 --> 00:44:23.960
actually, for a group of kids, this was actually

00:44:23.960 --> 00:44:27.500
pretty creative lyrically. Credit where credit's

00:44:27.500 --> 00:44:33.000
due. Absolutely. And you've got the energy up

00:44:33.000 --> 00:44:37.099
with Mbop. I don't want to bring it down. And

00:44:37.099 --> 00:44:42.079
I know he's got some controversy surrounding

00:44:42.079 --> 00:44:45.480
his name with the slap at everything. But, I

00:44:45.480 --> 00:44:48.019
mean, look, Will Smith getting jiggy with it.

00:44:48.320 --> 00:44:51.159
I just watched the tribute to 50 Years of Hip

00:44:51.159 --> 00:44:52.820
Hop, and he came out and did a snippet of that

00:44:52.820 --> 00:44:55.820
song, and the place went nuts still. Yeah, he

00:44:55.820 --> 00:44:58.360
doesn't curse in his raps to sell records like

00:44:58.360 --> 00:45:01.840
Eminem blasted on. But this song samples such

00:45:01.840 --> 00:45:04.880
great music. It's so much fun. And it's one of

00:45:04.880 --> 00:45:06.619
the few dances I could do where you just kind

00:45:06.619 --> 00:45:08.760
of keep your fists right in front of your chest.

00:45:08.820 --> 00:45:10.719
I can handle that. That's like right up my alley.

00:45:11.099 --> 00:45:12.960
Yeah, I'm going to go Will Smith getting jiggy

00:45:12.960 --> 00:45:15.980
with it. I love it. No, for sure. I mean, there's

00:45:15.980 --> 00:45:18.840
so many. This is not my pick, but I mean, as

00:45:18.840 --> 00:45:22.599
far as timeless, I mean. Celine Dion, My Heart

00:45:22.599 --> 00:45:24.840
Will Go On, Titanic. I mean, how much bigger

00:45:24.840 --> 00:45:28.260
can you go than that? I mean, all these tunes.

00:45:29.239 --> 00:45:32.280
Barenaked Ladies, One Week. I mean, Aerosmith,

00:45:32.460 --> 00:45:34.199
Don't Want to Miss. I mean, when singles off

00:45:34.199 --> 00:45:35.960
of soundtracks matter. But I mean, to me, for

00:45:35.960 --> 00:45:38.380
Timeless, I'm going to go with Timeless. A record

00:45:38.380 --> 00:45:41.320
I still listen to and artists I still... She's

00:45:41.320 --> 00:45:44.719
insanely talented. Lauryn Hill, Do Up That Thing.

00:45:44.900 --> 00:45:47.420
I mean, that... Thank you. Yes, thank you. The

00:45:47.420 --> 00:45:50.199
record is... All these are the big hit like that

00:45:50.199 --> 00:45:52.500
we love, love like that song is. That record

00:45:52.500 --> 00:45:56.219
is insane. It's insane. The Miseducation of Lauryn

00:45:56.219 --> 00:45:59.400
Hill is an absolute masterpiece. I mean, I love

00:45:59.400 --> 00:46:02.519
the Fugees. Don't get me wrong. Nothing but love

00:46:02.519 --> 00:46:06.380
for the Fugees. Miseducation. It's on another

00:46:06.380 --> 00:46:08.559
level. It's on another level. It's an absolute

00:46:08.559 --> 00:46:11.519
masterpiece. And we each have one pick left,

00:46:11.619 --> 00:46:15.420
and it's both from 99. And I just had Desmond

00:46:15.420 --> 00:46:17.639
Child on the show a few weeks ago, so I feel

00:46:17.639 --> 00:46:21.579
guilty not going with Livin' La Vida Loca. But

00:46:21.579 --> 00:46:23.880
I'll be honest, he tells such a great story about

00:46:23.880 --> 00:46:26.139
that song. Go back and listen to the Desmond

00:46:26.139 --> 00:46:28.639
Child episode to hear some stuff about that.

00:46:28.699 --> 00:46:32.980
I mean, but No Scrubs, Believe by Cher, Baby

00:46:32.980 --> 00:46:37.469
One More Time by Britney Spears. Oh, my. This

00:46:37.469 --> 00:46:40.210
is like the real, you know, 99, and it's not

00:46:40.210 --> 00:46:42.590
because it was the precipice of the millennium,

00:46:42.590 --> 00:46:48.449
but it really has that real stark change of the

00:46:48.449 --> 00:46:52.230
late 90s of going into the NSYNC, Britney Spears,

00:46:52.289 --> 00:46:55.449
Christina Aguilera, you know, the TRL. Not saying

00:46:55.449 --> 00:46:57.329
any of this is bad. I'm just saying just as an

00:46:57.329 --> 00:47:00.530
observer. Yeah, the wheels were in motion. This

00:47:00.530 --> 00:47:05.300
was a distinct shift in 1999 for sure. I have

00:47:05.300 --> 00:47:08.440
to go with a song that, cause I feel like I could

00:47:08.440 --> 00:47:10.539
throw an asterisk on this one for when we do

00:47:10.539 --> 00:47:13.920
number one songs of the two thousands, because

00:47:13.920 --> 00:47:17.519
I am going to choose the last number one hit

00:47:17.519 --> 00:47:21.260
of the decade. Santana featuring Rob Thomas smooth

00:47:21.260 --> 00:47:26.179
from supernatural spent 12 weeks at number one

00:47:26.179 --> 00:47:32.829
from October 23rd, 1999 to January 8th. 2000

00:47:32.829 --> 00:47:36.110
so this song i can actually use in number one

00:47:36.110 --> 00:47:40.590
hits of the 90s and 2000s which to me is absolutely

00:47:40.590 --> 00:47:45.570
insane and to this day i still love this song

00:47:45.570 --> 00:47:47.769
there's something that's so much fun about it

00:47:47.769 --> 00:47:52.050
rob thomas's voice is perfect and then look i've

00:47:52.050 --> 00:47:54.829
loved santana's guitar since the 70s he found

00:47:54.829 --> 00:47:58.929
a way to make his music relevant in the late

00:47:58.929 --> 00:48:02.690
90s And Supernatural was a juggernaut like no

00:48:02.690 --> 00:48:04.710
other. You think about the stuff he did with

00:48:04.710 --> 00:48:06.449
Everlast on that album. And then it stretched

00:48:06.449 --> 00:48:10.590
into future albums. And to me, he could have

00:48:10.590 --> 00:48:12.889
been on just like the classic rock touring circuit.

00:48:13.030 --> 00:48:15.329
But instead of doing that, he made himself relevant

00:48:15.329 --> 00:48:18.269
to a point where I'd go as far as to say he was

00:48:18.269 --> 00:48:21.170
bigger with Smooth than anything he did. Oye

00:48:21.170 --> 00:48:23.610
Como Va, Black Magic Woman, any of it in the

00:48:23.610 --> 00:48:26.849
70s. Smooth was bigger. No, I would agree with

00:48:26.849 --> 00:48:30.880
that. In an old, old band, one of my first bands

00:48:30.880 --> 00:48:34.099
after college, we released a record and the engineer

00:48:34.099 --> 00:48:37.000
on it, John Seymour, he was one of the associate

00:48:37.000 --> 00:48:40.579
engineers and he worked on that record. Oh, wow.

00:48:40.679 --> 00:48:43.559
I mean, all like that. So it was like, I heard

00:48:43.559 --> 00:48:47.099
some amazing stories of the selflessness of Carlos

00:48:47.099 --> 00:48:51.219
Santana from as a musician and his tutelage to

00:48:51.219 --> 00:48:55.340
artists. It was pretty cool. I mean, I'm going

00:48:55.340 --> 00:48:57.840
to just go just because... To give the love as

00:48:57.840 --> 00:49:01.880
closing up the 90s, handing off. And I love this

00:49:01.880 --> 00:49:04.500
song to this day. You know, Mariah Carey with

00:49:04.500 --> 00:49:07.539
Jay -Z, Heartbreaker. I mean, we just wrapped

00:49:07.539 --> 00:49:13.019
up a decade and she's on every year. I mean,

00:49:13.139 --> 00:49:15.840
it's just like when you really look at it and

00:49:15.840 --> 00:49:18.679
you reflect, I mean, she's an incredible artist,

00:49:18.739 --> 00:49:23.039
musician, and she absolutely owned the 90s in

00:49:23.039 --> 00:49:29.750
so many ways. Yeah. 13 number one hits in the

00:49:29.750 --> 00:49:34.949
decade, more than double the next largest, which

00:49:34.949 --> 00:49:39.630
was Janet Jackson at six. She owned the 90s.

00:49:39.630 --> 00:49:42.630
And honestly, you and I would be doing this playlist

00:49:42.630 --> 00:49:45.210
a disservice if we didn't mention her in this

00:49:45.210 --> 00:49:47.750
discussion. I'm going to finalize my pick with

00:49:47.750 --> 00:49:51.090
that one. And I could not agree more. There you

00:49:51.090 --> 00:49:53.710
have it, folks. Side B of our number one hits

00:49:53.710 --> 00:49:56.809
of the 90s playlist, which kicked off with 1995.

00:49:57.769 --> 00:50:00.769
Montel Jordan's This Is How We Do It and Seal's

00:50:00.769 --> 00:50:04.769
Kiss From A Rose. 1996, Blackstreet with Dr.

00:50:04.949 --> 00:50:08.190
Dre, No Diggity and Tupac featuring Casey and

00:50:08.190 --> 00:50:11.789
JoJo. Dr. Dre again and Roger Troutman, California

00:50:11.789 --> 00:50:16.510
Love. 1997, Notorious B .I .G.'s Hypnotize and

00:50:16.510 --> 00:50:20.579
Hanson's Mbop. 1998, Will Smith's Getting Jiggy

00:50:20.579 --> 00:50:23.320
With It and Lauryn Hill's Do Wop That Thing.

00:50:23.539 --> 00:50:27.260
And finishing it up with 1999, Santana with Rob

00:50:27.260 --> 00:50:30.920
Thomas, Smooth, and Mariah Carey with Jay -Z,

00:50:31.119 --> 00:50:34.400
Heartbreaker. Head over to myweeklymixtape .com

00:50:34.400 --> 00:50:36.500
to hear all the songs we've discussed in this

00:50:36.500 --> 00:50:39.940
mix through the playlist embedded on the episode

00:50:39.940 --> 00:50:43.980
page. Now, Jamie, The C's have Conversations

00:50:43.980 --> 00:50:46.019
With My Future Self out. It's been out since

00:50:46.019 --> 00:50:48.429
this past November. Can you talk about what you've

00:50:48.429 --> 00:50:51.349
got going on in 2024 to help promote the album

00:50:51.349 --> 00:50:54.849
in terms of live shows and other ventures? Right

00:50:54.849 --> 00:50:58.349
now, we're trying to wrap up some touring for

00:50:58.349 --> 00:51:01.550
the year. So that is all in the works. I would

00:51:01.550 --> 00:51:04.570
love to get those dates out there, but trying

00:51:04.570 --> 00:51:07.230
to figure out scheduling and all those things.

00:51:07.349 --> 00:51:10.090
As far as we're actually going a couple of weeks

00:51:10.090 --> 00:51:13.809
to go record a couple of choice cover songs,

00:51:13.969 --> 00:51:18.639
speaking of hits. that we like to play live and

00:51:18.639 --> 00:51:20.639
you know it's not like a spoiler because if you've

00:51:20.639 --> 00:51:23.179
seen us play you've seen them we've been covering

00:51:23.179 --> 00:51:25.880
in excess never tear us apart and simple minds

00:51:25.880 --> 00:51:30.940
don't you forget about me and it just it's it's

00:51:30.940 --> 00:51:33.860
very humbling to try to attempt I say try to

00:51:33.860 --> 00:51:37.460
attempt to sing Michael Hutchins vocals but it

00:51:37.460 --> 00:51:39.820
feels great we're good we put a little like flavor

00:51:39.820 --> 00:51:42.099
on it so we're gonna start tracking those in

00:51:42.099 --> 00:51:45.139
a couple of weeks And for me, it's always about

00:51:45.139 --> 00:51:47.300
the next album, the next record. And from a live

00:51:47.300 --> 00:51:51.159
perspective, I always like playing a cover set,

00:51:51.320 --> 00:51:54.500
especially change that up and make them fresh.

00:51:54.639 --> 00:51:56.679
It brings people into the audience that they've

00:51:56.679 --> 00:51:59.380
never listened to the songs. So the goals for

00:51:59.380 --> 00:52:02.820
2024 is we'll hopefully have some dates hosted

00:52:02.820 --> 00:52:06.239
in the coming weeks. We'll be recording some

00:52:06.239 --> 00:52:09.599
covers and then probably start work on the next

00:52:09.599 --> 00:52:13.230
record, maybe later this summer. Yeah, but that's

00:52:13.230 --> 00:52:15.929
all the things in motion that we're excited about.

00:52:16.150 --> 00:52:18.250
Well, you have to promise to keep me posted on

00:52:18.250 --> 00:52:20.349
both of those covers because Don't You Forget

00:52:20.349 --> 00:52:22.989
About Me and Never Tear Us Apart are two songs

00:52:22.989 --> 00:52:25.150
that I play with Colburn and Company. They're

00:52:25.150 --> 00:52:29.349
both amazing tunes. And God, Never Tear Us Apart

00:52:29.349 --> 00:52:32.550
could be my all -time favorite in excess tune.

00:52:33.320 --> 00:52:35.800
Brian Fallon from the Gaslight Anthem, his group,

00:52:35.800 --> 00:52:38.579
The Horrible Crows, did a really unique version

00:52:38.579 --> 00:52:41.460
of it. But after hearing your album, I'm curious

00:52:41.460 --> 00:52:43.800
to hear what you guys are going to bring to that

00:52:43.800 --> 00:52:48.760
song. It's pretty true to the recording, but

00:52:48.760 --> 00:52:53.460
it also feels just the way it's recorded and

00:52:53.460 --> 00:52:56.300
the timing of it, it just seems a little bit

00:52:56.300 --> 00:53:00.260
more rock to it. But I mean, that's just innately

00:53:00.260 --> 00:53:04.289
how it's going to sound. listen to that song

00:53:04.289 --> 00:53:08.289
religiously, and it's with Yoni on our keyboards

00:53:08.289 --> 00:53:11.989
and synthesizers and Alex on bass. They've kind

00:53:11.989 --> 00:53:17.190
of conjured this collective sound to really get

00:53:17.190 --> 00:53:20.909
the strings, but also this bottom end to it that's

00:53:20.909 --> 00:53:23.670
really awesome, and Tim, our drummer, really

00:53:23.670 --> 00:53:26.510
holds it down. I mean, playing Simple Minds,

00:53:26.510 --> 00:53:29.070
don't you forget about me. Like I told, I'm like,

00:53:29.110 --> 00:53:32.099
Tim, this is... All for you just to play the

00:53:32.099 --> 00:53:33.820
drum fill of the ending. I mean, that's really...

00:53:33.820 --> 00:53:39.519
This is my gift to you. You just want to live

00:53:39.519 --> 00:53:42.679
in a John Hughes film world. And it's just like,

00:53:42.719 --> 00:53:46.179
you just build up to it. And it just pops. And

00:53:46.179 --> 00:53:49.860
it's so much fun. And I think people love covers.

00:53:50.840 --> 00:53:53.820
We're not a cover band. But I think it's important,

00:53:54.039 --> 00:53:58.000
especially in the first, after release. A lot

00:53:58.000 --> 00:54:01.099
of material to get people and be there for fans

00:54:01.099 --> 00:54:04.199
and prospective new fans that, you know, you

00:54:04.199 --> 00:54:05.800
want to give them something tethered that they

00:54:05.800 --> 00:54:08.599
could, oh, I recognize that. They could hate

00:54:08.599 --> 00:54:12.139
it. Let's hope that's not the case. When you

00:54:12.139 --> 00:54:14.639
want to give something, you know, that you're

00:54:14.639 --> 00:54:17.400
playing to people that it's a worthy entertainment

00:54:17.400 --> 00:54:20.000
business, right? You want to entertain and not

00:54:20.000 --> 00:54:22.369
try to take yourself too, too seriously. Amen

00:54:22.369 --> 00:54:24.789
to that. Well, if people want to learn more about

00:54:24.789 --> 00:54:27.409
The Seas and connect with you on social media

00:54:27.409 --> 00:54:28.829
and come out to a show, how can they go about

00:54:28.829 --> 00:54:31.829
doing that? Yeah, they could follow The Seas

00:54:31.829 --> 00:54:36.210
Instagram page at The Seas Music. We are not

00:54:36.210 --> 00:54:38.949
on Twitter, so it's really just Instagram, the

00:54:38.949 --> 00:54:42.329
website, theseasmusic .com. I think that's pretty

00:54:42.329 --> 00:54:45.809
much your best hub to go. The record is currently

00:54:45.809 --> 00:54:49.460
streaming on Spotify, Apple Music. Pandora, you

00:54:49.460 --> 00:54:51.599
could stream it there. It's on Tidal. It's on

00:54:51.599 --> 00:54:53.840
all the places you could download it and stream

00:54:53.840 --> 00:54:57.380
to listen to it. And we sell vinyl records at

00:54:57.380 --> 00:54:59.980
the shows. Well, Jamie, this has been an absolute

00:54:59.980 --> 00:55:01.980
blast. Thank you so much for joining me on my

00:55:01.980 --> 00:55:03.599
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00:55:03.599 --> 00:55:05.139
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