WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.459 Hey everybody, what's going on? It's Sandy McKinnon. 00:00:02.520 --> 00:00:06.179 I play bass for the band Royal Tusk. Me and Brian 00:00:06.179 --> 00:00:08.099 Colburn today are going to get together on my 00:00:08.099 --> 00:00:11.019 weekly mixtape to talk all things hard rock. 00:00:11.240 --> 00:00:13.900 We have some fun, we're going to kill it, and 00:00:13.900 --> 00:00:27.620 let's get to it. Welcome to My Weekly Mixtape, 00:00:27.660 --> 00:00:30.239 a podcast that takes the classic mixtape approach 00:00:30.239 --> 00:00:33.359 to building a modern playlist. I'm your host, 00:00:33.399 --> 00:00:36.159 Brian Colburn. Joining me tonight as guest curator 00:00:36.159 --> 00:00:39.960 is Sandy McKinnon, bassist for Royal Tusk. Sandy, 00:00:40.000 --> 00:00:41.820 thank you so much for joining me on My Weekly 00:00:41.820 --> 00:00:44.039 Mixtape, man. I'm pumped to be here, brother. 00:00:44.320 --> 00:00:47.179 Well, I'd like to start by asking you the same 00:00:47.179 --> 00:00:49.700 question I ask all of my first -time guests, 00:00:49.939 --> 00:00:53.240 and that is, what does the word mixtape mean 00:00:53.240 --> 00:00:56.490 to you? you know what i'm glad to say that i 00:00:56.490 --> 00:00:58.490 actually grew up in the era of actually making 00:00:58.490 --> 00:01:01.109 mixtapes with the two uh cassette players and 00:01:01.109 --> 00:01:02.850 stuff like that or holding down the buttons when 00:01:02.850 --> 00:01:05.349 you're trying to record it off of a radio or 00:01:05.349 --> 00:01:07.549 whatever hell yeah so they mean a lot like i 00:01:07.549 --> 00:01:10.129 i mean back in the day i mean if i was interested 00:01:10.129 --> 00:01:12.310 in in a girl and i would be like you know this 00:01:12.310 --> 00:01:14.370 is what i've been listening to on mr cool you 00:01:14.370 --> 00:01:17.150 know and i'd slip it over or whatever and meanwhile 00:01:17.150 --> 00:01:21.159 she's going what the hell is this shit Well, 00:01:21.219 --> 00:01:23.459 I am so stoked to have you on the show tonight 00:01:23.459 --> 00:01:26.579 because not only are we co -curating a mixtape 00:01:26.579 --> 00:01:29.879 filled with modern hard rock songs, we're also 00:01:29.879 --> 00:01:32.260 going to be diving into tracks from the band's 00:01:32.260 --> 00:01:36.680 brand new album, Altruistic. Now, since Royal 00:01:36.680 --> 00:01:40.359 Tusk has toured with bands and artists such as 00:01:40.359 --> 00:01:44.400 Slash, Pop Evil, Monster Truck, and Big Wreck, 00:01:44.500 --> 00:01:47.519 as well as performed on the Shiprock Cruise, 00:01:47.640 --> 00:01:50.920 among many other things, I'm sure it's safe to 00:01:50.920 --> 00:01:54.780 say you probably have a wide bank of songs and 00:01:54.780 --> 00:01:58.319 bands to choose from for tonight. What were you 00:01:58.319 --> 00:02:01.079 looking to bring to the table, musically speaking, 00:02:01.359 --> 00:02:05.219 with your song choices? I guess when you asked 00:02:05.219 --> 00:02:07.760 me, I was sort of sitting there and I got a little 00:02:07.760 --> 00:02:10.259 stressed out because I was like, what I normally 00:02:10.259 --> 00:02:12.199 listen to is different from what Dan normally 00:02:12.199 --> 00:02:14.219 listens to or what Quinn normally listens to. 00:02:14.360 --> 00:02:16.360 And that's what makes us work so well together 00:02:16.360 --> 00:02:18.680 is because we don't have one genre that we sort 00:02:18.680 --> 00:02:20.800 of pull from. We all listen to different stuff. 00:02:21.000 --> 00:02:24.379 So, save for myself and the band, I listen to 00:02:24.379 --> 00:02:27.580 a lot of, I guess more on the heavy side of things. 00:02:28.159 --> 00:02:31.020 But we all still like our pop music, as you can 00:02:31.020 --> 00:02:33.879 tell, and even most. Tusk songs, you can hear 00:02:33.879 --> 00:02:36.530 it. Of course, of course. Well, let's get down 00:02:36.530 --> 00:02:38.830 to business. Hell yeah. Tonight, as I mentioned 00:02:38.830 --> 00:02:41.530 at the top of the show, Sandy and I will be curating 00:02:41.530 --> 00:02:44.550 the ultimate modern hard rock mixtape, and we're 00:02:44.550 --> 00:02:46.270 going to use that old cassette deck approach. 00:02:46.689 --> 00:02:49.270 Sandy, as my special guest, will begin side A 00:02:49.270 --> 00:02:51.669 with his first song choice, and then I'll choose 00:02:51.669 --> 00:02:54.330 a song that I feel best follows up that choice. 00:02:54.550 --> 00:02:56.969 We'll then flip -flop choosing songs until we've 00:02:56.969 --> 00:03:00.310 mapped out 10 tracks for side A. We'll then give 00:03:00.310 --> 00:03:02.629 our mixtape a proverbial flip, and we'll map 00:03:02.629 --> 00:03:04.610 out side B only this time. time, I'll kick things 00:03:04.610 --> 00:03:08.050 off with Sandy choosing second. Our overall goal 00:03:08.050 --> 00:03:10.710 for this episode is to craft the best modern 00:03:10.710 --> 00:03:14.270 hard rock mixtape possible through only 20 songs. 00:03:14.430 --> 00:03:16.689 At the end of the show, you can take our conversation 00:03:16.689 --> 00:03:19.569 to the next level by visiting the episode page 00:03:19.569 --> 00:03:22.930 at myweeklymixtape .com to give our final mixtape 00:03:22.930 --> 00:03:26.210 a listen via the embedded playlist. And if you 00:03:26.210 --> 00:03:27.990 like what you're hearing on the show, you can 00:03:27.990 --> 00:03:30.330 help me out by either telling a friend, leaving 00:03:30.330 --> 00:03:32.270 the show a five -star review wherever you're 00:03:32.270 --> 00:03:35.289 tuning in, or becoming a Patreon mixtaper at 00:03:35.289 --> 00:03:39.270 patreon .com forward slash myweeklymixtape. And 00:03:39.270 --> 00:03:41.689 before we get started, a few of the Patreon mixtapers 00:03:41.689 --> 00:03:45.030 chimed in with songs they would use to kick off 00:03:45.030 --> 00:03:46.810 tonight, and I want to give a quick shout out 00:03:46.810 --> 00:03:50.069 to a few of those. Tom Hutchinson chimed in with 00:03:50.069 --> 00:03:53.879 Baroness' Shock Me. Chad LaMassa chimed in with 00:03:53.879 --> 00:03:56.979 Dead Sarah's Weatherman, saying the opening riff 00:03:56.979 --> 00:03:59.840 by Suzy Medley hooked me the first time I ever 00:03:59.840 --> 00:04:01.639 heard that song and I've been a fan ever since. 00:04:01.860 --> 00:04:04.159 I personally couldn't agree more. That's an absolute 00:04:04.159 --> 00:04:07.580 monster. Both Philip Bergman and David Owens 00:04:07.580 --> 00:04:11.500 both chimed in with Andrew WK's Party Hard as 00:04:11.500 --> 00:04:15.520 a fun way to kick off the festivities. Cactus 00:04:15.520 --> 00:04:18.220 Pete chimed in with Alter Bridge's Pieces Broken, 00:04:18.459 --> 00:04:20.420 saying it's one of his favorite guitar riffs 00:04:20.420 --> 00:04:24.040 ever. And Seeker chimed in saying he can't go 00:04:24.040 --> 00:04:27.100 past Royal Blood. They're doing brilliant things 00:04:27.100 --> 00:04:30.240 that sound new but still respect the rock. And 00:04:30.240 --> 00:04:32.300 he went with Out of the Black from their self 00:04:32.300 --> 00:04:35.100 -titled album. So, Sandy, with those picks out 00:04:35.100 --> 00:04:37.660 in the musical atmosphere, I'm going to officially 00:04:37.660 --> 00:04:40.439 press the record button on our mixtape and turn 00:04:40.439 --> 00:04:43.040 the floor over to you. What song are you choosing 00:04:43.040 --> 00:04:47.240 to kick off side A and why? I'm going to kick 00:04:47.240 --> 00:04:49.790 off with something a little bit heavier. we actually 00:04:49.790 --> 00:04:51.970 used to tour with the guitar player in this band 00:04:51.970 --> 00:04:54.810 and it's a band from the uk called the architects 00:04:54.810 --> 00:04:58.829 and their brand new single called steen red when 00:04:58.829 --> 00:05:01.509 you ask for more modern stuff i sort of had to 00:05:01.509 --> 00:05:04.829 go into my my look at my spotify lists and sort 00:05:04.829 --> 00:05:07.310 of see what i've been listening to and i'm always 00:05:07.310 --> 00:05:09.930 a champion for my friends bands now their guitar 00:05:09.930 --> 00:05:14.230 player adam he's from vancouver and My old band 00:05:14.230 --> 00:05:16.709 and his old band used to tour together, so when 00:05:16.709 --> 00:05:19.610 I heard he kind of got the call up to be the 00:05:19.610 --> 00:05:23.149 guitar player in one of Europe's biggest metal 00:05:23.149 --> 00:05:26.670 bands, I was overjoyed for him. So I keep tabs 00:05:26.670 --> 00:05:30.149 on his career, and this single is definitely 00:05:30.149 --> 00:05:33.550 a barn burner. It's heavier than shit, and I 00:05:33.550 --> 00:05:35.949 love listening to it. Knowing that he's a man 00:05:35.949 --> 00:05:39.069 in the high six, I love that shit. Hell yeah. 00:05:39.129 --> 00:05:42.709 This is a monster song. This is definitely... 00:05:43.240 --> 00:05:45.800 taking the hard rock thing to the extreme and 00:05:45.800 --> 00:05:48.519 bringing the metal into it. So I like where you're 00:05:48.519 --> 00:05:50.879 going with this right from the jump is this gets 00:05:50.879 --> 00:05:54.079 the energy up and kicking it off with a level 00:05:54.079 --> 00:05:57.519 10 song is awesome. I'm all here for that. Hell 00:05:57.519 --> 00:06:01.579 yeah. So following that up, I think I'm going 00:06:01.579 --> 00:06:04.139 to bring it a little bit more towards the hard 00:06:04.139 --> 00:06:07.120 rock, but still keep that monster riffage going. 00:06:08.029 --> 00:06:10.050 And I'm going to go with a song that dropped 00:06:10.050 --> 00:06:13.230 in 2023 from their album Screaming at the Sky. 00:06:13.389 --> 00:06:15.889 I'm going to go with Blackstone Cherries, Out 00:06:15.889 --> 00:06:19.269 of Pocket. I've been a fan of this band since 00:06:19.269 --> 00:06:24.350 their self -titled album in 2006. And they effortlessly 00:06:24.350 --> 00:06:28.149 towed the line between Southern rock, hard rock, 00:06:28.149 --> 00:06:32.790 and blues. And they do it with such a friggin' 00:06:32.810 --> 00:06:37.019 swagger. And Out of Pocket is a classic example 00:06:37.019 --> 00:06:41.100 of the kind of monster hard riffs you get throughout 00:06:41.100 --> 00:06:45.100 Blackstone Cherry's catalog. And I feel like 00:06:45.100 --> 00:06:46.699 it's a good place to start if you're looking 00:06:46.699 --> 00:06:49.439 to kind of check out their newer music. You know, 00:06:49.459 --> 00:06:52.079 the term like Southern rock to me was always 00:06:52.079 --> 00:06:54.100 like kind of weird. What the hell is that? Like, 00:06:54.199 --> 00:06:56.230 I know what it means, but it's like. There's 00:06:56.230 --> 00:06:59.050 a sound, especially for a new band to say that 00:06:59.050 --> 00:07:01.069 sounds like Southern Rock. I say Blackstone Cherry 00:07:01.069 --> 00:07:03.689 is like the... If you were to look in the dictionary, 00:07:04.110 --> 00:07:06.189 their picture would be right there because they 00:07:06.189 --> 00:07:08.829 are killing it. It definitely has that throwback 00:07:08.829 --> 00:07:11.269 kind of swampiness feel to it. Kind of dirty. 00:07:11.370 --> 00:07:13.569 It's got that swagger. And I guess that's what 00:07:13.569 --> 00:07:16.089 it means. And I don't mean to sound like a dumbass. 00:07:16.410 --> 00:07:19.250 Not at all. What Southern Rock is, we all know 00:07:19.250 --> 00:07:21.629 what it is, but it's more of a feeling, I think, 00:07:21.670 --> 00:07:24.170 than a genre. You know what I mean? 100%. Yeah, 00:07:24.269 --> 00:07:26.660 they definitely... When you hear a song like 00:07:26.660 --> 00:07:30.000 Pieces Free, you hear the southern rock side 00:07:30.000 --> 00:07:31.860 of things where it's a little slower, a little 00:07:31.860 --> 00:07:34.600 bit more refined. But then when they open up, 00:07:34.720 --> 00:07:38.819 it's more of the vibe of the song than it is 00:07:38.819 --> 00:07:43.500 the genre itself. And it's merging the two. Exactly. 00:07:43.560 --> 00:07:46.339 And I think that's a badass choice you picked. 00:07:46.500 --> 00:07:49.420 That band's cool. That band's really cool. All 00:07:49.420 --> 00:07:51.139 right. Well, we're back to you now for track 00:07:51.139 --> 00:07:55.189 three to follow that up. man i i like i for modern 00:07:55.189 --> 00:07:57.730 i it's definitely not modern but this band definitely 00:07:57.730 --> 00:08:00.889 inspired us a ton while we were writing altruistic 00:08:00.889 --> 00:08:04.649 now the band the deftones deftones for us it's 00:08:04.649 --> 00:08:08.149 just you know it's not so much always riffing 00:08:08.149 --> 00:08:11.170 and always like doing the idea that less is more 00:08:11.170 --> 00:08:15.029 sometimes just it's harder than a than a sledgehammer 00:08:15.029 --> 00:08:17.029 like a band like deftones where they're writing 00:08:17.029 --> 00:08:19.850 one note all together it's so sonically massive 00:08:19.850 --> 00:08:23.800 it sounds like uh It feels like a weight on your 00:08:23.800 --> 00:08:26.379 chest, kind of. And that's what I really like 00:08:26.379 --> 00:08:29.360 about that band. And I think the song you've 00:08:29.360 --> 00:08:31.420 seen, The Butcher, off the album Diamond Eyes, 00:08:31.660 --> 00:08:35.179 it's got a really just kind of a delayed guitar 00:08:35.179 --> 00:08:38.700 riff. And it's kind of haunting. And it just 00:08:38.700 --> 00:08:42.460 slowly makes you bang your head. And it's totally 00:08:42.460 --> 00:08:45.519 kick -ass. Couldn't agree more. Diamond Eyes, 00:08:45.600 --> 00:08:49.000 to me, might be one of the Deftones' most... 00:08:49.519 --> 00:08:52.960 underrated albums i feel like it's not in the 00:08:52.960 --> 00:08:55.679 conversation as much as it should be because 00:08:55.679 --> 00:08:59.259 that album is full of killer tracks oh yeah this 00:08:59.259 --> 00:09:01.720 is a really underrated album in their catalog 00:09:01.720 --> 00:09:05.059 i love it i absolutely love it this song i mean 00:09:05.059 --> 00:09:07.279 it's maybe not obviously not a single or anything 00:09:07.279 --> 00:09:09.539 like that but i also when royal test started 00:09:09.539 --> 00:09:12.200 out we were on tour with with big rack i remember 00:09:12.200 --> 00:09:15.879 uh thornley was uh was sound checking to that 00:09:15.879 --> 00:09:17.789 and i was and i was like Oh yeah. Hell yeah. 00:09:17.830 --> 00:09:19.730 This guy's a music fan. He listens to everything 00:09:19.730 --> 00:09:22.230 from like really obscure rock and roll to even 00:09:22.230 --> 00:09:24.649 mainstream stuff, which I would consider Deftones 00:09:24.649 --> 00:09:27.769 pretty mainstream when it comes to metal. Well, 00:09:27.789 --> 00:09:31.870 from one basis to another, I'm going to follow 00:09:31.870 --> 00:09:35.269 up with a song that I'm going to align with one 00:09:35.269 --> 00:09:38.070 of the Patreon mixtapers for a band and a song. 00:09:38.710 --> 00:09:42.490 And from their 2014 self -titled album, I'm going 00:09:42.490 --> 00:09:44.830 to go with Royal Bloods Out of the Black. Hell 00:09:44.830 --> 00:09:47.669 yeah. I mean, when you're talking about a band 00:09:47.669 --> 00:09:52.789 that is a two piece with no guitar, for those 00:09:52.789 --> 00:09:54.809 of you that aren't familiar with Royal Blood, 00:09:55.110 --> 00:09:59.070 they are a singer slash bassist and a drummer. 00:09:59.570 --> 00:10:02.809 That's it. And yet they pull off a sound that's 00:10:02.809 --> 00:10:05.629 so massive, you would think it was a four or 00:10:05.629 --> 00:10:09.320 five piece band. And that speaks. ahem volumes 00:10:09.320 --> 00:10:12.519 about this group. And now they have brought a 00:10:12.519 --> 00:10:14.879 lot more of the pop element into their later 00:10:14.879 --> 00:10:18.500 albums, like typhoons and their new album, but 00:10:18.500 --> 00:10:21.720 they still have this heft. And as a bass player, 00:10:21.879 --> 00:10:25.000 I love the fact, and it's a selfish fact, but 00:10:25.000 --> 00:10:27.980 I love the fact that the bass is front and center 00:10:27.980 --> 00:10:30.620 in the sound. And it's just frigging that this 00:10:30.620 --> 00:10:33.320 riff is massive. So out of the black by Royal 00:10:33.320 --> 00:10:38.000 blood. Oh, this band is so good. When I first 00:10:38.000 --> 00:10:40.580 heard them, I didn't know what to really think. 00:10:41.080 --> 00:10:43.740 I was just like, oh, yeah, it's cool. I didn't 00:10:43.740 --> 00:10:46.320 know if it was really rocked in my socks. But 00:10:46.320 --> 00:10:48.019 then you sit down with it and you're like, holy 00:10:48.019 --> 00:10:50.799 shit. No, it actually kicks ass. And then you 00:10:50.799 --> 00:10:52.759 do go, oh, it's just the bass player and the 00:10:52.759 --> 00:10:55.500 drummer. And the best thing about music is it 00:10:55.500 --> 00:10:57.340 doesn't need to be stripped down. You can do 00:10:57.340 --> 00:10:59.440 whatever you want with it. If it's just bass 00:10:59.440 --> 00:11:01.299 and drums, it's just bass and drums. But if they're 00:11:01.299 --> 00:11:03.860 adding keys or all these other sounds, it's great. 00:11:03.960 --> 00:11:05.919 Those two guys working together sounds incredible. 00:11:06.779 --> 00:11:09.019 All right. Well, now we are following that up 00:11:09.019 --> 00:11:10.679 with track five. Where are you going to take 00:11:10.679 --> 00:11:16.799 it from here? Oh, Lord. I'm going to throw it 00:11:16.799 --> 00:11:19.419 back again, but I'm going to throw it back quite 00:11:19.419 --> 00:11:22.580 a bit more. Before we started talking on this, 00:11:22.740 --> 00:11:25.259 you had told me you brought your kids to go see 00:11:25.259 --> 00:11:28.419 Metallica. Yes. Now, how on earth can we do a 00:11:28.419 --> 00:11:31.500 rock or metal playlist without any Metallica 00:11:31.500 --> 00:11:37.009 on it? Right? You can't. It's impossible. but 00:11:37.009 --> 00:11:39.549 i was like and that was if someone you could 00:11:39.549 --> 00:11:42.169 do a whole podcast go name your top however many 00:11:42.169 --> 00:11:44.950 metallica songs i still be shitting my pants 00:11:44.950 --> 00:11:46.629 trying to figure out which ones are my favorite 00:11:46.629 --> 00:11:50.590 oh there would be fistfights 100 i was like i 00:11:50.590 --> 00:11:53.269 the way i did it was what was the last one that 00:11:53.269 --> 00:11:55.750 you were partying to and i could tell but based 00:11:55.750 --> 00:11:57.590 on like what was i last and i'm like oh that 00:11:57.590 --> 00:12:00.110 was sunday after super bowl and obviously had 00:12:00.110 --> 00:12:03.669 a million beers like you were listening to blackened 00:12:04.220 --> 00:12:08.460 The first track on Injustice Football. When I 00:12:08.460 --> 00:12:11.259 took my daughter to see them this past summer 00:12:11.259 --> 00:12:15.740 at MetLife Stadium, I had a bucket list Metallica 00:12:15.740 --> 00:12:18.399 song that I had never seen them perform live. 00:12:18.580 --> 00:12:21.120 And take into consideration, I've seen them live 00:12:21.120 --> 00:12:24.600 already about a dozen times. And I almost damn 00:12:24.600 --> 00:12:27.519 cried when the tape started playing of the reversed 00:12:27.519 --> 00:12:30.360 guitar in the beginning. And Justice for All 00:12:30.360 --> 00:12:33.379 is my favorite Metallica album. Blackened is 00:12:33.379 --> 00:12:36.659 my favorite ever Metallica song. So you just 00:12:36.659 --> 00:12:39.600 picked a goldmine winner as far as I'm concerned. 00:12:39.919 --> 00:12:44.080 I mean, I saw the Garage Inc. show at Roseland 00:12:44.080 --> 00:12:46.559 Ballroom when Metallica played Nothing But Covers. 00:12:46.620 --> 00:12:49.580 I saw the S &M concert and they never played 00:12:49.580 --> 00:12:51.419 Blackened. I'm like, when am I going to get a 00:12:51.419 --> 00:12:53.940 Blackened? I finally got a Blackened and it was 00:12:53.940 --> 00:12:58.620 frigging glorious. I absolutely love the pick. 00:12:59.000 --> 00:13:01.500 Yeah. And you know what? I'm going to follow 00:13:01.500 --> 00:13:03.980 up Metallica with one of the bands that's opening 00:13:03.980 --> 00:13:07.779 for them on this tour. Wolf Van Halen, Mammoth, 00:13:07.820 --> 00:13:12.480 WVH. You're to blame from his 2021 self -titled 00:13:12.480 --> 00:13:15.779 album. I mean, this kid plays every freaking 00:13:15.779 --> 00:13:19.059 instrument on this album, and it sounds so tight 00:13:19.059 --> 00:13:22.340 and so clean. And on top of that, he could sing. 00:13:22.679 --> 00:13:26.480 He could really freaking sing. And the fact that 00:13:26.480 --> 00:13:29.740 he's putting out these songs. He could easily 00:13:29.740 --> 00:13:32.960 do his father's guitar pyrotechnics and go out 00:13:32.960 --> 00:13:37.220 and put out Van Halen style music, but instead 00:13:37.220 --> 00:13:40.480 he's carving his own path. And I respect that 00:13:40.480 --> 00:13:43.879 more because he has his own musical voice and 00:13:43.879 --> 00:13:47.080 it's just coming through in epic fashion. I think 00:13:47.080 --> 00:13:50.120 Mammoth WVH is a hard rock band to be on the 00:13:50.120 --> 00:13:53.320 lookout for in the next few years. I absolutely 00:13:53.320 --> 00:13:55.200 agree. And one of the things I will say about 00:13:55.200 --> 00:13:58.649 that as well is. It's so easy to just copy styles 00:13:58.649 --> 00:14:02.049 and do the exact same thing, but there is no 00:14:02.049 --> 00:14:06.049 crossover really between Mammoth and any Van 00:14:06.049 --> 00:14:10.129 Halen stuff. There's no sound other than there's 00:14:10.129 --> 00:14:11.950 shredding, but even the shredding is different. 00:14:12.350 --> 00:14:15.269 I love exactly to go on your point. It's just 00:14:15.269 --> 00:14:20.370 badass rock and roll. It's not as badass as Van 00:14:20.370 --> 00:14:24.480 Halen was and is. It's just... It's just different. 00:14:24.580 --> 00:14:26.879 And exactly to your point, he's carving his own 00:14:26.879 --> 00:14:30.879 way and not just hanging off the coattails. He 00:14:30.879 --> 00:14:34.500 also looks like a really nice guy. Oh, my God. 00:14:34.539 --> 00:14:36.000 He seems like the kind of guy that you could 00:14:36.000 --> 00:14:38.460 sit down with and just geek out over music because 00:14:38.460 --> 00:14:41.600 he seems like a fan. First and foremost, when 00:14:41.600 --> 00:14:44.240 you hear him talking about other artists, you 00:14:44.240 --> 00:14:46.019 could tell that there's a love and admiration 00:14:46.019 --> 00:14:50.019 for not only the music he grew up seeing through 00:14:50.019 --> 00:14:53.350 his father, but the music that he's. taken on 00:14:53.350 --> 00:14:56.009 his own because he went out and played, if I'm 00:14:56.009 --> 00:14:58.350 not mistaken, when Tremonti went out and did 00:14:58.350 --> 00:15:01.929 a solo tour outside of Alter Bridge. That's right. 00:15:01.970 --> 00:15:06.309 I mean, the dude just is a mecca of talent and 00:15:06.309 --> 00:15:08.809 both of his albums, I think one and two are both 00:15:08.809 --> 00:15:11.690 fantastic, but you're to blame is that riff that 00:15:11.690 --> 00:15:15.970 as soon as you hear it, your head just starts 00:15:15.970 --> 00:15:17.529 going and you're like, yeah, this is going to 00:15:17.529 --> 00:15:19.730 get dirt. And when he kicks in, you're all in. 00:15:20.210 --> 00:15:24.429 And his voice is just, Angelic. He can hit some 00:15:24.429 --> 00:15:27.590 ridiculously high notes, and let's be honest, 00:15:27.710 --> 00:15:31.389 on the tours that he did with Van Halen, he was 00:15:31.389 --> 00:15:34.730 the Michael Anthony role, both on bass and vocally. 00:15:35.129 --> 00:15:37.870 I went and saw Black Sabbath when they did their 00:15:37.870 --> 00:15:41.429 final tour, and it was insane. But no Bill Ward 00:15:41.429 --> 00:15:43.870 on the drums. And I get it. The guy that got 00:15:43.870 --> 00:15:47.230 to replace him was incredible. Obviously, you're 00:15:47.230 --> 00:15:52.039 not going to get... a schlub but uh it was i 00:15:52.039 --> 00:15:54.259 was kind of like and that was the same kind of 00:15:54.259 --> 00:15:57.740 feeling i had with no michael anthony but i mean 00:15:57.740 --> 00:15:59.879 that's interband stuff and that's between them 00:15:59.879 --> 00:16:02.860 and their uh them and their them and their god 00:16:02.860 --> 00:16:05.080 i guess and yeah that's their own thing to deal 00:16:05.080 --> 00:16:07.700 with i'm not gonna lie this summer i'm i'm checking 00:16:07.700 --> 00:16:10.200 off the sammy list this summer i'm gonna go see 00:16:10.200 --> 00:16:13.639 sammy with michael anthony satriani and jason 00:16:13.639 --> 00:16:16.759 bonham doing the night of van halen I know it's 00:16:16.759 --> 00:16:19.960 not Van Halen, but if they were going to pick 00:16:19.960 --> 00:16:23.240 a guitarist that could pull off Eddie Van Halen 00:16:23.240 --> 00:16:25.159 to the point where you can enjoy it in a live 00:16:25.159 --> 00:16:27.899 setting, they didn't grab a slouch. Satriani 00:16:27.899 --> 00:16:29.960 is one of the best. He does some monster stuff 00:16:29.960 --> 00:16:32.820 with Chicken Foot. I mean, this band is top notch. 00:16:32.960 --> 00:16:35.879 I'm pretty stoked to see that this summer. I 00:16:35.879 --> 00:16:40.559 mean, Van Hagar is... All those songs are incredible. 00:16:41.080 --> 00:16:44.279 I love that era too. Obviously, I'm David Lee 00:16:44.279 --> 00:16:46.720 Roth. through and through, but those Van Hagar 00:16:46.720 --> 00:16:50.360 records are no slouch. All right. We had a Metallica 00:16:50.360 --> 00:16:53.000 Mammoth back -to -back one -two punch. What are 00:16:53.000 --> 00:16:55.659 you going with for track seven? I'm going back 00:16:55.659 --> 00:16:57.259 to the heavier side. I'm going back to the metal 00:16:57.259 --> 00:16:59.980 side of things. A band that we look up to a lot 00:16:59.980 --> 00:17:02.820 as a collective group and Royal Tusk is we love, 00:17:03.100 --> 00:17:06.720 love, love, love Mastodon. Yes. Yeah, absolutely. 00:17:06.819 --> 00:17:09.599 The riffing, how it can go from absolutely brutally 00:17:09.599 --> 00:17:13.509 punishing heaviness. Just sweet, sweet kind of 00:17:13.509 --> 00:17:15.869 melodies. And it just kind of bounces around. 00:17:16.150 --> 00:17:19.250 And it can get really evil sounding. And it's 00:17:19.250 --> 00:17:21.930 just, they're unreal. And it's a song more than 00:17:21.930 --> 00:17:25.150 I could chew off their newest record, Hush and 00:17:25.150 --> 00:17:28.230 Grim. Obviously, when that record dropped, I 00:17:28.230 --> 00:17:30.910 stayed up late to just listen to it. And it did 00:17:30.910 --> 00:17:33.910 not disappoint. I love that they're a band that 00:17:33.910 --> 00:17:36.849 has gone from being way more on the metal side 00:17:36.849 --> 00:17:39.920 of things to now. I might even say it's like 00:17:39.920 --> 00:17:41.900 kind of on the weird, just on the weird spectrum, 00:17:41.980 --> 00:17:44.180 like a band that goes out and tours with Primus 00:17:44.180 --> 00:17:46.339 is the same band that's going to be going out 00:17:46.339 --> 00:17:49.500 with Lamb of God this coming year. So, I mean, 00:17:49.500 --> 00:17:51.559 you're talking about diverse heavy metal music. 00:17:51.559 --> 00:17:54.740 I think Mastodon is that. I couldn't agree more 00:17:54.740 --> 00:17:57.920 in there. One of those bands that is so widely 00:17:57.920 --> 00:18:01.680 respected there. I mean, we just talked about 00:18:01.680 --> 00:18:04.220 Mammoth WVH, but I know he's posted about them 00:18:04.220 --> 00:18:07.059 several times, just gushing. over the songs. 00:18:07.099 --> 00:18:10.859 They almost reach this level of like tool where 00:18:10.859 --> 00:18:14.180 people just put them in a different bracket all 00:18:14.180 --> 00:18:16.819 in of itself. Like, is this metal? Is this hard 00:18:16.819 --> 00:18:19.740 rock? No, this is Mastodon. No, this is tool. 00:18:19.940 --> 00:18:22.640 It's, it's, it's its own thing. And to be able 00:18:22.640 --> 00:18:26.299 to carve that out in this current musical landscape 00:18:26.299 --> 00:18:29.819 is not an easy feat. And they do it with such 00:18:29.819 --> 00:18:34.019 ease album after album. It just seems effortless 00:18:34.019 --> 00:18:36.680 for these guys. watching them live is incredible 00:18:36.680 --> 00:18:39.900 like nice laser shows you can enjoy them over 00:18:39.900 --> 00:18:44.420 an edible or two and uh yeah like i just i i 00:18:44.420 --> 00:18:47.799 really really enjoy listening to that band one 00:18:47.799 --> 00:18:49.859 of the things quick little story here during 00:18:49.859 --> 00:18:51.859 pandemic you know everyone was like releasing 00:18:51.859 --> 00:18:55.779 weird kind of songs and stuff like that dan actually 00:18:55.779 --> 00:18:59.920 did a cover version of filters hey man nice shot 00:18:59.920 --> 00:19:03.130 oh what a great song and You can check it out 00:19:03.130 --> 00:19:05.369 on YouTube. It's there. But it's the guitar player 00:19:05.369 --> 00:19:08.690 Bill Keller from Macedon did it with him. Whoa. 00:19:08.829 --> 00:19:11.710 And Fluff from Dragged Under. Well, was of Dragged 00:19:11.710 --> 00:19:15.970 Under. And Chow from Stone Sour. And Tanner from 00:19:15.970 --> 00:19:18.630 In Flames. Quite a lineup. Oh, God. I'm going 00:19:18.630 --> 00:19:21.130 to have to embed that over at the episode page 00:19:21.130 --> 00:19:23.930 at myweeklymixtape .com. So anyone listening 00:19:23.930 --> 00:19:25.750 can go check out that video. I'll make sure to 00:19:25.750 --> 00:19:28.690 do that. I was absolutely like watching Dan do 00:19:28.690 --> 00:19:30.630 it. I was green with jealousy. I have actually, 00:19:30.670 --> 00:19:33.470 I did pick filter on there, but I, that song. 00:19:33.569 --> 00:19:34.809 And I was like, you know what? I'll just mention 00:19:34.809 --> 00:19:39.349 it actually. Cause I just mass it on them being 00:19:39.349 --> 00:19:41.849 together. And doing that was just like, to me, 00:19:41.849 --> 00:19:44.890 it was just totally kick ass. Couldn't agree 00:19:44.890 --> 00:19:48.170 more. And what I'm going to do now is do something 00:19:48.170 --> 00:19:50.250 we haven't done yet. I'm going to bring the ladies 00:19:50.250 --> 00:19:53.490 into this. Oh, hell yeah. Because hard rock has 00:19:53.490 --> 00:19:56.690 its share of amazing female singers. And one 00:19:56.690 --> 00:20:00.089 of my favorites over the last two decades was 00:20:00.089 --> 00:20:03.690 Lacey Sturm from Flyleaf. Oh, hell yeah. And 00:20:03.690 --> 00:20:08.049 in 2023, she put out an album, Kinotic Metanoia. 00:20:09.279 --> 00:20:11.779 This album is so massive and so heavy. I'm going 00:20:11.779 --> 00:20:14.160 to go with the song reconcile. Now I've always 00:20:14.160 --> 00:20:17.500 been a fan of Lacey's work with fly leaf. And 00:20:17.500 --> 00:20:20.539 I followed her through 2016 life screams, which 00:20:20.539 --> 00:20:23.539 was another killer album, but it was a bummer 00:20:23.539 --> 00:20:26.740 that it took from 2016 to 2023 to get a new album 00:20:26.740 --> 00:20:30.380 from her. But in that time, she's reunited with 00:20:30.380 --> 00:20:32.400 fly leaf again, and they're doing things together 00:20:32.400 --> 00:20:35.700 as well as her doing her solo stuff. Reconcile 00:20:35.700 --> 00:20:40.140 has this monster riff and. Lacey's voice is ridiculously 00:20:40.140 --> 00:20:43.799 powerful, yet extremely delicate and dynamic. 00:20:44.099 --> 00:20:47.359 She has such a way to go from the heft to the 00:20:47.359 --> 00:20:50.680 soft, like turning on a light switch on and off. 00:20:50.819 --> 00:20:53.420 Like there's no curve with it. It's just boom. 00:20:53.539 --> 00:20:57.599 She's there. And it's so unique. Her voice really 00:20:57.599 --> 00:20:59.599 stands out. As soon as you hear it, you're like, 00:20:59.680 --> 00:21:02.660 that's Lacey. And I feel like that deserves a 00:21:02.660 --> 00:21:05.480 spotlight in this mix tonight. So Lacey storms 00:21:05.480 --> 00:21:08.289 reconcile. That's a great choice. That's a great 00:21:08.289 --> 00:21:11.109 choice. That's a very unique sounding voice. 00:21:11.690 --> 00:21:14.269 In the hard rock genre, that is just like a powerful, 00:21:14.470 --> 00:21:17.890 powerful voice. Well, following that up, we each 00:21:17.890 --> 00:21:20.089 have one pick left for Side A. What do you got? 00:21:20.589 --> 00:21:23.829 You know, I'm going to keep it in the theme of 00:21:23.829 --> 00:21:26.450 the ladies. There's this band that I don't know. 00:21:26.470 --> 00:21:29.529 They're not really big in North America. I discovered 00:21:29.529 --> 00:21:32.369 them almost by accident while going down a Spotify 00:21:32.369 --> 00:21:36.150 rabbit hole. I found out they were actually quite 00:21:36.150 --> 00:21:38.670 prominent in Europe, headlining some festivals 00:21:38.670 --> 00:21:40.509 and stuff like that. But they're called Brutus. 00:21:40.789 --> 00:21:42.789 And they're from Belgium. They're a three -piece 00:21:42.789 --> 00:21:46.970 band. And the song is called War. And the vocalist, 00:21:47.029 --> 00:21:50.230 she actually is the drummer as well. Really? 00:21:50.609 --> 00:21:53.529 Big time. So we're talking like a Levon Helm 00:21:53.529 --> 00:21:56.490 in the band here. But I'm talking about like 00:21:56.490 --> 00:21:58.829 a band that's known for opening her bands like 00:21:58.829 --> 00:22:02.660 Deftones or Converge. Like you've got all these 00:22:02.660 --> 00:22:05.599 spectrums of like thrashier metal to like really 00:22:05.599 --> 00:22:09.099 just big sounds. Oh, and thrice and stuff. And 00:22:09.099 --> 00:22:12.259 it's like, it's cool. And she sounds, it's got 00:22:12.259 --> 00:22:14.839 these ethereal parts and there's parts that are 00:22:14.839 --> 00:22:18.160 just really blasty. It goes from being punk. 00:22:18.480 --> 00:22:22.099 It goes from almost kind of shoegazy parts. I 00:22:22.099 --> 00:22:25.549 love this band. And every time I get a chance 00:22:25.549 --> 00:22:27.650 to show somebody, I always feel like I'm championing 00:22:27.650 --> 00:22:29.410 this band because I don't feel like I'm not enough 00:22:29.410 --> 00:22:31.869 people know them here in North America. Well, 00:22:31.970 --> 00:22:34.670 I will be perfectly honest. You have stumped 00:22:34.670 --> 00:22:37.029 me on this one and I cannot wait until we're 00:22:37.029 --> 00:22:39.329 done recording. I've already got it pulled up 00:22:39.329 --> 00:22:41.809 here. I'll be experiencing this song for the 00:22:41.809 --> 00:22:44.950 first time. And I'm so stoked to hear it after 00:22:44.950 --> 00:22:46.569 the way you described it, because that sounds 00:22:46.569 --> 00:22:49.849 right up my alley. So thank you, because I love 00:22:49.849 --> 00:22:52.880 when people introduce me to new songs. song warm 00:22:52.880 --> 00:22:56.599 like it has a insane intro it's just oh it's 00:22:56.599 --> 00:23:00.900 it's a builder and then it's like well i know 00:23:00.900 --> 00:23:03.660 what i'm gonna close this side with because in 00:23:03.660 --> 00:23:08.240 2022 this band released one of my favorite albums 00:23:08.240 --> 00:23:10.980 of the year and here we are two years later and 00:23:10.980 --> 00:23:13.839 i still rock this album probably once a month 00:23:13.839 --> 00:23:17.400 and this is a band that's music has evolved over 00:23:17.400 --> 00:23:21.339 the last 20 something years The band I'm going 00:23:21.339 --> 00:23:24.920 with is Papa Roach, pretty much a household name 00:23:24.920 --> 00:23:28.400 to anybody in the country. New metal, last resort. 00:23:28.519 --> 00:23:31.680 But in 2022, they released the album Ego Trip, 00:23:31.900 --> 00:23:34.579 which was probably my favorite album of the year. 00:23:34.640 --> 00:23:37.380 And the opening track on it, Kill the Noise, 00:23:37.680 --> 00:23:41.619 is so massive. It's one of the songs that they 00:23:41.619 --> 00:23:45.420 either opened with or. put in the second slot 00:23:45.420 --> 00:23:48.180 of their shows. So that shows how much faith 00:23:48.180 --> 00:23:51.079 they have in the song to get people up and moving. 00:23:51.819 --> 00:23:55.359 And the fact that they were able to pair it up. 00:23:55.420 --> 00:23:57.420 The last time I took the whole family to see 00:23:57.420 --> 00:24:00.119 them, it was between angels and insects followed 00:24:00.119 --> 00:24:02.819 by kill the noise. And the one, two punch works 00:24:02.819 --> 00:24:07.619 so well together. Ego trip is an album was very 00:24:07.619 --> 00:24:10.299 interesting to me because I feel like if you 00:24:10.299 --> 00:24:14.200 listen to infest, And then you listen to 2019's 00:24:14.200 --> 00:24:16.880 Who Do You Trust? It almost feels like there's 00:24:16.880 --> 00:24:20.880 two different bands. However, on Ego Trip, the 00:24:20.880 --> 00:24:24.339 band took the entire evolution of their music 00:24:24.339 --> 00:24:28.200 and took every style that they ever incorporated 00:24:28.200 --> 00:24:32.859 and threw it into a blender and created something 00:24:32.859 --> 00:24:36.619 that really would please a fan of Papa Roach 00:24:36.619 --> 00:24:41.299 from any era. If you loved the new metal, rapping 00:24:41.299 --> 00:24:43.539 stuff that took place on infest there's something 00:24:43.539 --> 00:24:47.859 for you if you loved the emotive stuff like lifeline 00:24:47.859 --> 00:24:51.579 in the early to mid 2010s there's something for 00:24:51.579 --> 00:24:54.400 you if you like the later stuff like renegade 00:24:54.400 --> 00:24:56.400 music and who do you trust there's something 00:24:56.400 --> 00:24:59.160 for i could have picked any track on this album 00:24:59.160 --> 00:25:01.440 because i absolutely love it from start to finish 00:25:01.440 --> 00:25:04.940 but kill the noise punches you right in the face 00:25:04.940 --> 00:25:06.859 and i think it's a great way to close out the 00:25:06.859 --> 00:25:10.680 side book ending the architect seeing red the 00:25:10.680 --> 00:25:13.359 thing about papa roach we were out in the uk 00:25:13.359 --> 00:25:16.579 with uh we were supporting monster truck out 00:25:16.579 --> 00:25:19.160 there and a couple of the bigger venues have 00:25:19.160 --> 00:25:22.240 two rooms in them and stuff like that and a couple 00:25:22.240 --> 00:25:24.880 nights this other room had papa roach in there 00:25:24.880 --> 00:25:28.099 and so we would go over there and like after 00:25:28.099 --> 00:25:30.000 we would play we just like pack up our shit because 00:25:30.000 --> 00:25:31.819 we're the opener run over and we would be able 00:25:31.819 --> 00:25:35.920 to catch uh papa roach's set and they were incredible 00:25:35.920 --> 00:25:38.849 every single night But that's only overlooked 00:25:38.849 --> 00:25:43.769 by how nice Jacoby Shaddix is. We run into him 00:25:43.769 --> 00:25:46.750 either backstage or out and about when everyone's 00:25:46.750 --> 00:25:48.630 just killing the afternoon, going for a walk 00:25:48.630 --> 00:25:50.609 or something like that. And he was always such 00:25:50.609 --> 00:25:54.710 a nice dude. Shout out to Papa Roach. That whole 00:25:54.710 --> 00:25:58.309 crew is just a nice crew of dudes. I'm going 00:25:58.309 --> 00:26:01.410 to sidebar with one story about Jacoby because 00:26:01.410 --> 00:26:05.079 20 -something years ago. I saw with one of my 00:26:05.079 --> 00:26:08.779 buddies Papa Roach open for ready for this lineup. 00:26:08.839 --> 00:26:13.980 It was Papa Roach, Eminem in the mid slot and 00:26:13.980 --> 00:26:16.480 Limp Bizkit as the headliner. Oh, hell yeah. 00:26:16.500 --> 00:26:18.839 That sounds wicked. We were front row in the 00:26:18.839 --> 00:26:22.980 arena right on the side of the stage. And in 00:26:22.980 --> 00:26:25.940 between bands, Papa Roach was hanging out right 00:26:25.940 --> 00:26:28.099 in front of us. So I called him over it. I work 00:26:28.099 --> 00:26:30.880 in radio. I'm a radio guy. I said, tomorrow you're 00:26:30.880 --> 00:26:34.240 doing a radio tour. And I'm going to be right 00:26:34.240 --> 00:26:36.680 in the hallway next to you. So make sure you 00:26:36.680 --> 00:26:38.599 stop by and say hi. And he gave me like one of 00:26:38.599 --> 00:26:40.599 the bro hugs. He said, sure thing, dude. And 00:26:40.599 --> 00:26:43.079 my buddy said, he's not going to remember that 00:26:43.079 --> 00:26:45.700 tomorrow morning. Next morning, I'm sitting at 00:26:45.700 --> 00:26:47.980 work. I'm typing. It's like 10 o 'clock. And 00:26:47.980 --> 00:26:50.819 I hear, yo, where the F's my boy Brian at? Up 00:26:50.819 --> 00:26:53.299 and down the halls. And my boss comes in. She 00:26:53.299 --> 00:26:56.019 goes, Brian, it sounds like somebody wants to 00:26:56.019 --> 00:26:58.319 know where the F you're at. And I'm like, oh 00:26:58.319 --> 00:27:01.130 God. She goes, who is that? I said. That's our 00:27:01.130 --> 00:27:03.349 10 o 'clock radio tour. That's Cody Dick from 00:27:03.349 --> 00:27:05.410 Papa Roach. She goes, well, why don't you go? 00:27:05.549 --> 00:27:07.730 And I went out the hallway. He's like, yo, dude. 00:27:08.049 --> 00:27:10.609 And he came over and he gave me a big hug and 00:27:10.609 --> 00:27:12.470 brought me back into the studio with the rest 00:27:12.470 --> 00:27:14.849 of the band. And they were all really cool. They 00:27:14.849 --> 00:27:18.450 signed a copy of my Infest CD and we chatted 00:27:18.450 --> 00:27:21.369 for like 15 minutes. It was just absolutely awesome. 00:27:21.690 --> 00:27:24.630 That moment made me a ride or die fan for Papa 00:27:24.630 --> 00:27:27.470 Roach. Exactly. I can't agree with you more. 00:27:27.589 --> 00:27:30.240 That's a great story, actually. Well, there you 00:27:30.240 --> 00:27:33.119 have it, folks. Side A of our ultimate hard rock 00:27:33.119 --> 00:27:35.339 mixtape, which kicked off with The Architect's 00:27:35.339 --> 00:27:38.220 Seeing Red, Blackstone Cherry's Out of Pocket, 00:27:38.640 --> 00:27:41.599 Deftone's The Butcher, Royal Blood's Out of the 00:27:41.599 --> 00:27:44.559 Black, Metallica's Blackened. Nice follow up 00:27:44.559 --> 00:27:47.500 there. Black into Blackened. Yeah, yeah. Mammoth 00:27:47.500 --> 00:27:51.119 WVH, You're to Blame, Mastodon's More Than I 00:27:51.119 --> 00:27:54.910 Can Chew, Lacey Sturm's Reconcile. Brutus' War, 00:27:55.170 --> 00:27:58.349 and Papa Roach's Kill the Noise. Head over to 00:27:58.349 --> 00:28:01.410 myweeklymixtape .com to hear all the songs we've 00:28:01.410 --> 00:28:04.289 discussed in this mix through the playlist embedded 00:28:04.289 --> 00:28:09.789 on the episode page. Now, I'm super excited to 00:28:09.789 --> 00:28:11.970 dive into some of the tracks from Royal Tusk's 00:28:11.970 --> 00:28:16.329 new album, Altruistic, starting with the thrashy 00:28:16.329 --> 00:29:19.920 album opening track, Fire in Your Veins. Now, 00:29:19.940 --> 00:29:22.799 when you compare Fire in Your Veins to opening 00:29:22.799 --> 00:29:26.339 tracks from your mountain EP Shadow of Love, 00:29:26.660 --> 00:29:31.099 Deal Breakers Dynamo, or Tusk 2's First Time, 00:29:31.279 --> 00:29:35.380 I personally hear an evolution of the opening 00:29:35.380 --> 00:29:39.279 tracks getting consistently heavier and more 00:29:39.279 --> 00:29:44.160 aggressive with each Royal Tusk release. Is that 00:29:44.160 --> 00:29:46.180 something the band ever took into consideration 00:29:46.180 --> 00:29:49.299 when coming up with the album sequencing? I mean, 00:29:49.319 --> 00:29:52.380 we've had a few personnel changes from Mountain 00:29:52.380 --> 00:29:55.180 to where we are now. And I really think that 00:29:55.180 --> 00:29:57.359 like, you know, when you write music together 00:29:57.359 --> 00:29:59.819 with certain people, that's what the sound that 00:29:59.819 --> 00:30:01.799 comes out of it. So it's not so much that we're 00:30:01.799 --> 00:30:03.859 trying to write heavier. It's just that we're 00:30:03.859 --> 00:30:08.519 writing heavier music. It's been a mainstay of 00:30:08.519 --> 00:30:12.279 me, Quinn, and Dan since Deal Breaker. And even 00:30:12.279 --> 00:30:13.819 in Deal Breaker, we still had some other members 00:30:13.819 --> 00:30:16.140 that were still, you know, we had an organ player 00:30:16.140 --> 00:30:18.799 and stuff like that. When he left, we didn't 00:30:18.799 --> 00:30:22.019 change that. We just kept going as a four -piece 00:30:22.019 --> 00:30:24.779 now, and it was just back to two guitars, bass, 00:30:25.000 --> 00:30:28.279 and drums. And as we just kept going, man, like 00:30:28.279 --> 00:30:31.839 I said, it would be crazy for me to think that 00:30:31.839 --> 00:30:34.220 we were intentionally just writing heavier music. 00:30:34.940 --> 00:30:36.680 You know, we're like, oh, we should be heavy 00:30:36.680 --> 00:30:38.799 now. But that's not the case. It's just the way 00:30:38.799 --> 00:30:42.859 it's going. And the thrash element to me was 00:30:42.859 --> 00:30:46.279 something that I hear elements of it on other 00:30:46.279 --> 00:30:50.099 albums like Tusk, too. But to be front and center 00:30:50.099 --> 00:30:52.759 as the album opening track, it was such a kick 00:30:52.759 --> 00:30:55.220 in the face. And I love the way you open this 00:30:55.220 --> 00:30:57.799 album. So I'm kind of curious how this one came 00:30:57.799 --> 00:31:01.259 together for you. I mean, that song was the last 00:31:01.259 --> 00:31:04.940 song that we greenlighted for the record. Really? 00:31:05.000 --> 00:31:08.339 Yeah, we had so I'm telling you, there's probably 00:31:08.339 --> 00:31:12.349 a dozen. different demos of that song with different 00:31:12.349 --> 00:31:15.269 choruses, different ways we played the riff, 00:31:15.509 --> 00:31:19.089 different arrangements. It just, for some reason, 00:31:19.130 --> 00:31:22.549 we just couldn't get it to sound right. And then 00:31:22.549 --> 00:31:25.170 we just took a break from it. When we revisited, 00:31:25.230 --> 00:31:28.730 it was like, whatever we're doing now, it sounds 00:31:28.730 --> 00:31:32.089 the best. So don't fuck with it too much. It 00:31:32.089 --> 00:31:34.890 seems the most normal to us. It's like looking 00:31:34.890 --> 00:31:36.349 at each other, is something rubbing you in the 00:31:36.349 --> 00:31:39.309 wrong way? No, no, no. So. Yeah, that's the way 00:31:39.309 --> 00:31:42.890 it sort of went. Well, next up in my altruistic 00:31:42.890 --> 00:32:31.180 deep dive is the anthemic Head Up. Oh. In the 00:32:31.180 --> 00:32:34.559 middle of tracking this album, your front man, 00:32:34.680 --> 00:32:38.039 Daniel Careri, went through a pretty scary, almost 00:32:38.039 --> 00:32:40.799 year -long ordeal due to a blood clot in his 00:32:40.799 --> 00:32:45.180 lung, which left him barely able to speak. Can 00:32:45.180 --> 00:32:49.039 that insanely intense and, quite frankly, scary 00:32:49.039 --> 00:32:53.299 situation lend itself to the overall heft and 00:32:53.299 --> 00:32:56.440 weight of Altruistic as an album as a whole? 00:32:56.500 --> 00:32:59.319 Because to me, it's safe to say being a fan of 00:32:59.319 --> 00:33:03.480 the band's entire catalog i feel like altruistic 00:33:03.480 --> 00:33:06.440 is the band's heaviest effort to date i would 00:33:06.440 --> 00:33:08.559 agree with you absolutely it is our it is our 00:33:08.559 --> 00:33:11.160 heaviest to date when we finished the record 00:33:11.160 --> 00:33:14.839 uh when we did our last vocal note and our last 00:33:14.839 --> 00:33:17.299 little auxiliary percussion or whatever you have 00:33:17.299 --> 00:33:19.740 you one week of the day dan got sick and he was 00:33:19.740 --> 00:33:23.539 sick for the next two years uh me and dan go 00:33:23.539 --> 00:33:25.700 back we were we grew up in the same neighborhood 00:33:25.700 --> 00:33:27.640 we were friends we played the same soccer team 00:33:27.640 --> 00:33:31.119 we were five years old skateboarded we toured 00:33:31.119 --> 00:33:33.160 in our old band together all over the world and 00:33:33.160 --> 00:33:35.559 stuff and then he started this one and asked 00:33:35.559 --> 00:33:38.819 me to come along and i absolutely so when you're 00:33:38.819 --> 00:33:43.099 going to your friend's house every day to walk 00:33:43.099 --> 00:33:45.559 his dog because he can't do it because he's bedridden 00:33:45.559 --> 00:33:48.000 it was it was a bit of an eye -opener for all 00:33:48.000 --> 00:33:50.779 of us uh some things are bigger than the band 00:33:50.779 --> 00:33:53.720 you want your boys to be healthy and happy and 00:33:53.720 --> 00:33:57.009 that's something that sometimes you know I don't 00:33:57.009 --> 00:33:59.089 know the health. Maybe we take for granted, but 00:33:59.089 --> 00:34:01.630 when you kind of are face to face with it, it's, 00:34:01.630 --> 00:34:05.289 it's rough, you know? And so head up. I mean, 00:34:05.309 --> 00:34:07.690 we had already written it and it's a bit of a 00:34:07.690 --> 00:34:12.889 jock jam, which we love. And we are also, cause 00:34:12.889 --> 00:34:16.309 we're from Edmonton. We are diehard Edmonton 00:34:16.309 --> 00:34:20.710 Oilers fans. I kind of figured that we go, we 00:34:20.710 --> 00:34:22.329 take the good with the good. We take the bad 00:34:22.329 --> 00:34:23.929 with the bad. We've been to both ends of the 00:34:23.929 --> 00:34:29.159 pool, but, um, Right now, they are actually using 00:34:29.159 --> 00:34:33.019 our song when the Oilers come in in the third 00:34:33.019 --> 00:34:35.860 period at the Rogers Stadium. Oh, that's badass. 00:34:36.519 --> 00:34:39.800 Oh, man. And for us, just growing up and seeing 00:34:39.800 --> 00:34:42.539 that shit, you're like, oh, that to me was like, 00:34:42.559 --> 00:34:45.579 I'm in my nerdy, I think I've made it sort of 00:34:45.579 --> 00:34:49.059 moment. I mean, as a sports fan myself, could 00:34:49.059 --> 00:34:51.380 there be anything cooler than seeing one of your 00:34:51.380 --> 00:34:54.219 favorite teams come out to a song you wrote and 00:34:54.219 --> 00:34:56.780 recorded? Oh, yeah. And then we just went on 00:34:56.780 --> 00:35:01.960 that historic run, which was cut last week. But, 00:35:02.039 --> 00:35:04.840 you know, it was knowing that we're part of this 00:35:04.840 --> 00:35:08.960 this year's run for the cup is great. Yeah. Well, 00:35:09.139 --> 00:35:12.860 the band self -produced altruistic. Can you talk 00:35:12.860 --> 00:35:16.099 about what that meant in terms of writing, production 00:35:16.099 --> 00:35:19.480 and the release process versus your other efforts 00:35:19.480 --> 00:35:22.309 that were done with labels involved? Absolutely. 00:35:22.570 --> 00:35:24.789 When we started doing this, we kind of looked 00:35:24.789 --> 00:35:27.869 at each other. It was the way that we sort of 00:35:27.869 --> 00:35:30.690 our hand were kind of forced, just judging by 00:35:30.690 --> 00:35:33.309 the way the world was at the time. It's not like 00:35:33.309 --> 00:35:35.489 we could fly somewhere and make the record. We 00:35:35.489 --> 00:35:37.449 couldn't have people fly in to make the record. 00:35:37.849 --> 00:35:40.230 But we knew we had a handful of great songs and 00:35:40.230 --> 00:35:41.849 great demos that we could probably pick from. 00:35:42.269 --> 00:35:45.309 And, you know, none of us have like, we've all 00:35:45.309 --> 00:35:48.510 worked in making records before. So we kind of. 00:35:48.909 --> 00:35:50.969 have an idea of like what we're doing you know 00:35:50.969 --> 00:35:53.250 what i mean it's not like we need someone there 00:35:53.250 --> 00:35:56.289 to tell us how to do the songs but we had the 00:35:56.289 --> 00:35:58.730 studio rerun of the studio for months and months 00:35:58.730 --> 00:36:02.110 and months now growing up i was like man it'd 00:36:02.110 --> 00:36:03.949 be so cool to make a record like aerosmith they 00:36:03.949 --> 00:36:05.869 just seem to get to lock themselves in the studio 00:36:05.869 --> 00:36:09.289 for a year straight and just get drunk and hang 00:36:09.289 --> 00:36:12.829 out and party and make a record you know and 00:36:12.829 --> 00:36:15.840 when you join when you especially in this day 00:36:15.840 --> 00:36:17.420 and age in the music industry, that's not the 00:36:17.420 --> 00:36:20.239 case. You have a finite amount of time because 00:36:20.239 --> 00:36:22.619 you have a finite amount of money to make a goddamn 00:36:22.619 --> 00:36:25.159 record. You know what I mean? That was the best 00:36:25.159 --> 00:36:27.420 part about the way the world was during pandemic 00:36:27.420 --> 00:36:29.940 is they were like, yeah, no one's using the studio. 00:36:29.980 --> 00:36:35.059 Go ahead. Okay. So we had our nine to five and 00:36:35.059 --> 00:36:39.800 go in and create, which was the best. Quinn, 00:36:39.880 --> 00:36:41.920 when we're not on the road, his job is he produces 00:36:41.920 --> 00:36:44.420 some other bands as well too. So he's able to 00:36:44.420 --> 00:36:48.000 do the engineering side of things. Dan has produced 00:36:48.000 --> 00:36:52.199 tons of artists and helped co -write stuff. I've 00:36:52.199 --> 00:36:54.420 been there alongside the both of them forever. 00:36:54.539 --> 00:36:56.699 So I definitely write a bunch of songs as well. 00:36:56.760 --> 00:36:59.400 So having all of us in the room together, picking 00:36:59.400 --> 00:37:01.219 and choosing how these arrangements and what 00:37:01.219 --> 00:37:02.980 parts are going to stay and what parts are going 00:37:02.980 --> 00:37:07.079 to go, that was incredible. Again, not being 00:37:07.079 --> 00:37:10.219 forced and not being hurried along. So my follow 00:37:10.219 --> 00:37:13.800 up to that is when you're dealing with only band 00:37:13.800 --> 00:37:17.059 members opinions, sometimes you're kind of tunnel 00:37:17.059 --> 00:37:19.599 visioned as to what each of your own personal 00:37:19.599 --> 00:37:22.619 thoughts are of where the song goes. And that's 00:37:22.619 --> 00:37:25.460 sometimes where the producer. might be able to, 00:37:25.559 --> 00:37:28.880 from the outside looking in, make the situation 00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:32.139 easier. Were you guys all on the same page with 00:37:32.139 --> 00:37:34.420 where these songs were headed? Or was there any 00:37:34.420 --> 00:37:37.039 conflict in building them to try to get them 00:37:37.039 --> 00:37:39.880 to where it was a collective, that's what we're 00:37:39.880 --> 00:37:42.800 talking about? I mean, we actually put out a 00:37:42.800 --> 00:37:44.719 documentary about us being in the studio. It's 00:37:44.719 --> 00:37:46.760 on YouTube. It's called Do No Wrong, Making Up 00:37:46.760 --> 00:37:48.860 Altruistic. And one of the things that we do 00:37:48.860 --> 00:37:51.920 touch base on is like, you can be up all night 00:37:51.920 --> 00:37:54.670 making a riff. And you think it's the best thing 00:37:54.670 --> 00:37:57.050 since sliced bread. You bring it to everybody 00:37:57.050 --> 00:38:00.909 and everyone can be like, oh boy, that one is 00:38:00.909 --> 00:38:11.769 a fucking stinker. And if you're going to sit 00:38:11.769 --> 00:38:14.329 there and whine about it, yeah, you took some 00:38:14.329 --> 00:38:16.570 time. We all take time to write songs. You got 00:38:16.570 --> 00:38:18.150 to think of the betterment of like the final 00:38:18.150 --> 00:38:20.530 song. You know what I mean? Not so much that 00:38:20.530 --> 00:38:23.929 your part gets in there. That seems pretty egotistical 00:38:23.929 --> 00:38:27.389 now, does it? Your ego kind of needs to be kind 00:38:27.389 --> 00:38:30.250 of fucked off and in another room or something 00:38:30.250 --> 00:38:32.170 like that. Because if the part doesn't work, 00:38:32.269 --> 00:38:34.030 well, let's find a part that does. Let's find 00:38:34.030 --> 00:38:36.690 a part that this song that you could listen to 00:38:36.690 --> 00:38:39.329 and be like, it's kicks ass. Not this song is 00:38:39.329 --> 00:38:41.769 fine, but I'm really happy that I had my fucking 00:38:41.769 --> 00:38:46.650 two and a half minute bass solo in there. See, 00:38:46.690 --> 00:38:48.849 but you cut it down from four minutes. So at 00:38:48.849 --> 00:38:51.409 least you were being thoughtful there. I'll meet 00:38:51.409 --> 00:38:56.849 you halfway. Well, the next track I want to play 00:38:56.849 --> 00:40:06.199 is the death of common sense. Thematically, would 00:40:06.199 --> 00:40:09.800 you say the songs across Altruistic are telling 00:40:09.800 --> 00:40:13.440 a story? And if so, what would you say the overall 00:40:13.440 --> 00:40:16.440 theme of the album is? It's hard to say what 00:40:16.440 --> 00:40:20.719 the overall theme of the album is. The idea of 00:40:20.719 --> 00:40:23.199 altruism, when we were discussing it, it's like 00:40:23.199 --> 00:40:25.460 you can look at it so many different ways. One 00:40:25.460 --> 00:40:27.800 of the things I brought up was Altruistic. Is 00:40:27.800 --> 00:40:31.280 that? Is anybody ever genuinely altruistic? Like, 00:40:31.300 --> 00:40:34.019 are you doing something so selflessly? Or is 00:40:34.019 --> 00:40:36.019 there always that idea that you're bettering 00:40:36.019 --> 00:40:38.840 yourself by helping someone else? You know what 00:40:38.840 --> 00:40:41.159 I mean? Very much so. Yeah. And I don't want 00:40:41.159 --> 00:40:42.800 to take that idea because doing something good 00:40:42.800 --> 00:40:45.539 for somebody else, regardless, is good. Being 00:40:45.539 --> 00:40:48.960 a good person is what the world needs more of. 00:40:49.099 --> 00:40:51.820 Good people. Yeah. You know what I mean? And 00:40:51.820 --> 00:40:54.739 so, I mean, I guess it really doesn't matter. 00:40:55.230 --> 00:40:56.909 At the end of the day, if you're doing it to 00:40:56.909 --> 00:40:59.070 benefit yourself, but you're doing all this other 00:40:59.070 --> 00:41:01.489 stuff, then I mean, if doing it for yourself 00:41:01.489 --> 00:41:03.309 means you're sleeping better at night and fuck 00:41:03.309 --> 00:41:05.630 all the power to you, I think that's great. But 00:41:05.630 --> 00:41:07.489 if you're like, you know, if you're doing it 00:41:07.489 --> 00:41:10.590 just to be seen, I think that maybe that's a 00:41:10.590 --> 00:41:13.130 little crazy. But again, who the hell am I really? 00:41:13.730 --> 00:41:17.869 But I think at the end of it all, I think there 00:41:17.869 --> 00:41:20.190 are some people who selflessly do things for 00:41:20.190 --> 00:41:23.969 themselves or for other people. I mean, I like 00:41:23.969 --> 00:41:25.929 to think that that exists. Again, at the end 00:41:25.929 --> 00:41:28.010 of the day, if you're a good person, that is 00:41:28.010 --> 00:41:31.130 really what matters the most. Couldn't have said 00:41:31.130 --> 00:41:34.710 that better myself. 100 % agree. And now the 00:41:34.710 --> 00:41:37.570 next song that I'm going to pick from Altruistic 00:41:37.570 --> 00:41:40.030 is actually going to serve as double duty right 00:41:40.030 --> 00:41:42.909 now. Because it's the fourth track I'm sharing 00:41:42.909 --> 00:41:46.269 from the album, but it's also my choice to kick 00:41:46.269 --> 00:41:49.789 off Side B. And it's the current single from 00:41:49.789 --> 00:43:06.730 the album. And it's hated. Oh, hell yeah. Daniel 00:43:06.730 --> 00:43:09.170 has gone on record to say that this song was 00:43:09.170 --> 00:43:11.550 written from the point of view of someone who 00:43:11.550 --> 00:43:15.510 is labeled unredeemable. It doesn't campaign 00:43:15.510 --> 00:43:19.369 for the person's innocence, but poses a question. 00:43:19.809 --> 00:43:23.070 I found that statement to be absolutely fascinating. 00:43:23.449 --> 00:43:25.670 Could you elaborate a little bit on this track? 00:43:26.150 --> 00:43:28.809 I mean, that's in a nutshell, that's Dan. Like 00:43:28.809 --> 00:43:31.289 he was like when he was explaining what his idea 00:43:31.289 --> 00:43:34.630 was behind those lyrics. That makes sense. Is 00:43:34.630 --> 00:43:37.550 there an idea that someone could be changed and 00:43:37.550 --> 00:43:41.070 welcomed back almost like and as if nothing had 00:43:41.070 --> 00:43:43.969 happened? I mean, one thing we will see if someone 00:43:43.969 --> 00:43:46.530 gets out of jail, it's still to this day, it's 00:43:46.530 --> 00:43:48.829 impossible to get a job. You know what I mean? 00:43:48.889 --> 00:43:51.269 They'll always look at the blemish of mistakes 00:43:51.269 --> 00:43:55.710 made in the past. And again, we're not campaigning 00:43:55.710 --> 00:43:57.929 for anything like that. But, you know, it's something 00:43:57.929 --> 00:43:59.949 that needs to be brought up. It's definitely 00:43:59.949 --> 00:44:02.639 a very real. thing that happens in this in this 00:44:02.639 --> 00:44:05.360 world and in our society couldn't agree more 00:44:05.360 --> 00:44:07.659 in the song to me i could have went with any 00:44:07.659 --> 00:44:10.320 of those four to kick off the side but looking 00:44:10.320 --> 00:44:14.199 at side a i feel like hated is the perfect way 00:44:14.199 --> 00:44:16.699 to continue this out of papa roach's kill the 00:44:16.699 --> 00:44:19.800 noise the tape flips over and there you have 00:44:19.800 --> 00:44:21.840 hated and i think it's a perfect way to get things 00:44:21.840 --> 00:44:26.820 going so now you have the tough decision of what 00:44:26.820 --> 00:44:29.179 you're going to follow up your own song with 00:44:29.710 --> 00:44:31.610 I have my little list written beside me. So if 00:44:31.610 --> 00:44:33.530 you see me, my eyes is doing some weird shit. 00:44:33.570 --> 00:44:37.630 That's exactly what I'm doing. Uh, you know, 00:44:37.650 --> 00:44:41.469 I'm going to go with when this airs, we'll have 00:44:41.469 --> 00:44:44.469 been probably several weeks into our cross Canada 00:44:44.469 --> 00:44:48.530 tour with the band broken love. Yes. Yeah. There 00:44:48.530 --> 00:44:51.630 are homies. I love those dudes. That whole crew 00:44:51.630 --> 00:44:54.389 has been awesome. We met them while both of us 00:44:54.389 --> 00:44:56.909 were supporting Pop Evil. We've gone on to do 00:44:56.909 --> 00:44:59.530 more touring with them. When we were deciding 00:44:59.530 --> 00:45:01.929 who were going to be our touring partners for 00:45:01.929 --> 00:45:05.110 our, I'm not going to say our comeback, but it 00:45:05.110 --> 00:45:07.630 sort of is. We haven't been really a band since 00:45:07.630 --> 00:45:11.349 the pandemic thing started. So when we were coming 00:45:11.349 --> 00:45:12.949 back, we're like, of course, that was an easy 00:45:12.949 --> 00:45:14.929 decision. Boys, you want to jump back in the 00:45:14.929 --> 00:45:18.050 van and come out with the boys or what? So they 00:45:18.050 --> 00:45:24.050 have this song called Like a Drug. And it's one 00:45:24.050 --> 00:45:26.610 of those goddamn earworms that I find myself 00:45:26.610 --> 00:45:28.550 when I'm doing something like mowing the lawn 00:45:28.550 --> 00:45:31.630 or, you know, something like that. I'm always 00:45:31.630 --> 00:45:33.469 singing that melody. What the hell am I? Oh, 00:45:33.510 --> 00:45:36.210 it's broken love. She's always want to write 00:45:36.210 --> 00:45:38.250 a message. I'm like, stop writing songs like 00:45:38.250 --> 00:45:42.429 that. Bucking me up. I absolutely applaud the 00:45:42.429 --> 00:45:44.710 pick because you just scooped me on the band, 00:45:44.849 --> 00:45:49.110 on the song that 2022 is black box. This song. 00:45:49.809 --> 00:45:52.829 is, I'm going to use a word, and you normally 00:45:52.829 --> 00:45:56.630 don't use it with hard rock, but damn it, it's 00:45:56.630 --> 00:45:59.389 dancey, but it still rocks at the same time. 00:45:59.389 --> 00:46:03.030 There's this groove to it that's absolutely undeniable. 00:46:03.329 --> 00:46:05.690 I couldn't agree more. Like a Drug's got such 00:46:05.690 --> 00:46:08.869 a unique vibe. I'm so happy you picked that because 00:46:08.869 --> 00:46:10.849 that's one less song I got to stress over now. 00:46:11.090 --> 00:46:16.159 So bravo. And I'm going to lean into that. quote 00:46:16.159 --> 00:46:18.739 unquote dance vibe. Let me just put this out 00:46:18.739 --> 00:46:20.659 there for the real hard rock heads out there. 00:46:20.760 --> 00:46:22.619 I don't mean you're actually going to go out 00:46:22.619 --> 00:46:25.659 there and actually dance to it. It's one of those 00:46:25.659 --> 00:46:29.500 ones that just gets your head moving. And I feel 00:46:29.500 --> 00:46:34.219 like, yeah, one of my former guests has a song 00:46:34.219 --> 00:46:37.440 that I feel the exact same way about as I do 00:46:37.440 --> 00:46:40.900 broken loves like a drug. And I. feel like it's 00:46:40.900 --> 00:46:43.079 the perfect follow -up and i'm gonna go off of 00:46:43.079 --> 00:46:46.840 2022's love drugs and misery and i'm gonna go 00:46:46.840 --> 00:46:50.300 with eva under fire's blow featuring spencer 00:46:50.300 --> 00:46:53.699 charnas of ice nine kills oh hell yeah this is 00:46:53.699 --> 00:46:55.679 one of those hard rock tunes that immediately 00:46:55.679 --> 00:46:58.519 gets you pumped up i could see this song being 00:46:58.519 --> 00:47:03.260 used in wwe or sports broadcasting for like a 00:47:03.260 --> 00:47:05.780 wrestler coming out or you know at the start 00:47:05.780 --> 00:47:08.059 of a i guess based on where they're from we can 00:47:08.059 --> 00:47:10.920 maybe say a detroit lions game the entrance theme 00:47:10.920 --> 00:47:13.719 for them and this song was also featured in the 00:47:13.719 --> 00:47:16.780 2022 movie the retaliators which starred jacoby 00:47:16.780 --> 00:47:18.639 shattuck who we talked about earlier from pop 00:47:18.639 --> 00:47:21.530 broach Ivan Moody, a five finger death punch 00:47:21.530 --> 00:47:24.769 and many others. If you're a fan of Eva under 00:47:24.769 --> 00:47:27.530 fire or hard rock in general, I highly recommend 00:47:27.530 --> 00:47:30.869 going back to all the way back to episode seven, 00:47:30.949 --> 00:47:34.710 the ultimate hard rock cover songs playlist as 00:47:34.710 --> 00:47:37.190 Eva Marie was my guest curator for that episode. 00:47:37.250 --> 00:47:40.309 And we dove into a ton of great modern hard rock 00:47:40.309 --> 00:47:43.030 covers, but I think broken love in the Eva under 00:47:43.030 --> 00:47:45.829 fire is just, it's just a chef's kiss right here. 00:47:46.130 --> 00:47:49.019 No, hell yeah. So with that, we are back to you, 00:47:49.059 --> 00:47:52.860 Sandy, for track four. Track four. So I'm going 00:47:52.860 --> 00:47:55.179 to throw it back again. I want to throw it back 00:47:55.179 --> 00:47:57.179 to a band that made me actually want to start 00:47:57.179 --> 00:48:00.619 playing bass when I was about 10 years old. Rage 00:48:00.619 --> 00:48:04.800 Against the Machines. Oh, there we go. I got 00:48:04.800 --> 00:48:07.800 tickets for them when they were doing their tour. 00:48:08.519 --> 00:48:12.159 And unfortunately, they canceled that portion 00:48:12.159 --> 00:48:16.079 in Canada where we are. And I was heartbroken. 00:48:16.099 --> 00:48:19.260 I was like, but. they'll be back and then late 00:48:19.260 --> 00:48:21.000 last year when they announced they are not going 00:48:21.000 --> 00:48:24.079 to be getting back together I was mortified I 00:48:24.079 --> 00:48:27.559 was pissed off but I get it you know it's the 00:48:27.559 --> 00:48:29.559 way it goes it's the nature of the beast it's 00:48:29.559 --> 00:48:31.699 just a bummer because I had never that's a bucket 00:48:31.699 --> 00:48:34.000 list band that I'll now never be able to see 00:48:34.000 --> 00:48:37.519 the song I chose was from their covers album 00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:41.199 which is a I know I know it's weird but I also 00:48:41.199 --> 00:48:44.610 wanted to add the song I picked It's such a killer 00:48:44.610 --> 00:48:47.789 rap song, and I just wanted to put it on my list. 00:48:48.070 --> 00:48:50.070 So I figured, why don't I just do the cover? 00:48:50.250 --> 00:48:52.869 And it's that How I Could Just Kill a Man, the 00:48:52.869 --> 00:48:56.409 Cypress Hill cover. One thing I want you to do 00:48:56.409 --> 00:48:58.469 when you listen to it next is if you turn it 00:48:58.469 --> 00:49:01.989 up, the recording of it, it sounds demented. 00:49:02.130 --> 00:49:05.889 The bass is almost blown out. It sounds like 00:49:05.889 --> 00:49:07.829 the speaker they're using is flapping in the 00:49:07.829 --> 00:49:11.369 wind, and it just sounds so raw. And I thought, 00:49:11.389 --> 00:49:14.389 what a powerful choice song to pick to do. You 00:49:14.389 --> 00:49:17.510 know, like a metal band doing, I could just kill 00:49:17.510 --> 00:49:19.630 him in a Cypress Hill cover. The song gets me 00:49:19.630 --> 00:49:24.389 jacked. Let's be honest. The original is a heavy, 00:49:24.389 --> 00:49:28.570 badass song. Only Rage Against the Machine could 00:49:28.570 --> 00:49:31.730 take that up a notch. I totally agree. And I 00:49:31.730 --> 00:49:34.469 will say the seed that How I Could Just Kill 00:49:34.469 --> 00:49:37.670 a Man planted. was part of when they did the 00:49:37.670 --> 00:49:41.110 prophets of rage with chucky i feel like the 00:49:41.110 --> 00:49:43.769 seed was planted when rage covered how i could 00:49:43.769 --> 00:49:45.670 just kill a man the love became there between 00:49:45.670 --> 00:49:48.929 those guys and the guys in cypress hill and and 00:49:48.929 --> 00:49:53.369 how could it not well yeah send dog from uh cypress 00:49:53.369 --> 00:49:55.090 hill wasn't a wasn't a metal it was in a hardcore 00:49:55.090 --> 00:49:58.289 band in in the cypress hill era and i can't remember 00:49:58.289 --> 00:49:59.909 what the hell it's called off the top of my head 00:49:59.909 --> 00:50:03.670 oh yeah power flow that's right but hard hip 00:50:03.670 --> 00:50:08.059 -hop Going with metal is not that crazy. You 00:50:08.059 --> 00:50:11.039 got Public Enemy and Anthrax and all that kind 00:50:11.039 --> 00:50:13.579 of stuff. And when you hear it, it doesn't sound 00:50:13.579 --> 00:50:16.820 that crazy. It just sounds cool. Couldn't agree 00:50:16.820 --> 00:50:20.059 more. As a bassist, one of the first songs that 00:50:20.059 --> 00:50:24.639 I literally had to lock myself in the room and 00:50:24.639 --> 00:50:28.440 figure out. And it's one of my, it's my may I 00:50:28.440 --> 00:50:30.739 help you riff if I'm going to a music store to 00:50:30.739 --> 00:50:33.699 look at a bass. I start playing the opening to 00:50:33.699 --> 00:50:37.760 bomb track. Oh yeah, absolutely. Like that's 00:50:37.760 --> 00:50:40.000 my, am I going to like the sound of this base? 00:50:40.159 --> 00:50:42.780 So I love the fact that you picked rage. I'm 00:50:42.780 --> 00:50:45.860 all in a hundred percent on that. I'm going to 00:50:45.860 --> 00:50:49.800 pivot now. Okay. And these two songs on paper 00:50:49.800 --> 00:50:55.940 do not go well back to back. However, we're kind 00:50:55.940 --> 00:50:58.610 of. zigging and zagging on this side between 00:50:58.610 --> 00:51:01.309 different styles. So I feel because of that, 00:51:01.469 --> 00:51:04.329 it's going to work really well. And this is a 00:51:04.329 --> 00:51:08.469 song that I rocked all throughout 2023. And instead 00:51:08.469 --> 00:51:11.610 of leaning into the hip hop and the heavier side 00:51:11.610 --> 00:51:14.389 of things, I'm going to pull from the seventies 00:51:14.389 --> 00:51:18.389 arena rock and hard rock and garage rock. And 00:51:18.389 --> 00:51:20.050 I'm going to throw them into a blend. I'm not 00:51:20.050 --> 00:51:22.809 actually doing it. The band did it throwing these 00:51:22.809 --> 00:51:26.500 genres into a musical blender. And getting White 00:51:26.500 --> 00:51:30.639 Reaper's Fog Machine from 2023's Asking for a 00:51:30.639 --> 00:51:34.099 Ride. This is everything I love about Cheap Trick, 00:51:34.360 --> 00:51:37.159 Thin Lizzy, and all the bands on that ever. However, 00:51:37.440 --> 00:51:40.119 it's got a modern, fresh spin. There's nothing 00:51:40.119 --> 00:51:43.079 that sounds 70s or dated about White Reaper. 00:51:43.780 --> 00:51:47.420 They honor the 70s sound, but make it sound modern. 00:51:47.599 --> 00:51:51.019 And to me, that's not an easy thing to do. So 00:51:51.019 --> 00:51:53.800 I love this song so much. If you go back to episode 00:51:53.800 --> 00:51:57.579 50. The Songs of 2023 featuring D .T. Carroll 00:51:57.579 --> 00:52:00.059 of Space Castle. You can hear more about this 00:52:00.059 --> 00:52:04.179 one, but White Reaper owned 2023 with Fog Machine 00:52:04.179 --> 00:52:06.179 as far as I'm concerned. What a killer track. 00:52:06.860 --> 00:52:09.519 I can't get over how many of those songs made 00:52:09.519 --> 00:52:13.280 my year in review on Spotify. I just, I love 00:52:13.280 --> 00:52:17.460 that record so much. And Fog is such a... killer 00:52:17.460 --> 00:52:20.000 track i totally agree it's got the thin lizzy 00:52:20.000 --> 00:52:22.679 vibe but it almost has like a punk vibe to it 00:52:22.679 --> 00:52:25.599 too it's one of those bands that you know could 00:52:25.599 --> 00:52:29.960 literally tour with a punk band a rock band an 00:52:29.960 --> 00:52:32.159 indie rock band you know it's just like it's 00:52:32.159 --> 00:52:35.699 really great songs i mean it's pulling from everything 00:52:35.699 --> 00:52:38.440 you know what i mean and it got a lot of play 00:52:38.440 --> 00:52:41.320 from me And the baselines in it where he's just 00:52:41.320 --> 00:52:45.380 walking. Like, it's just like, oh, my God, thank 00:52:45.380 --> 00:52:48.900 you. Like, I just love the way they're able to 00:52:48.900 --> 00:52:54.219 take the nuances of the sleazy 70s glam and modernize 00:52:54.219 --> 00:52:57.940 it. And now you get to follow that up. Oh, yeah, 00:52:58.000 --> 00:53:01.179 absolutely. Oh, what am I going to follow it 00:53:01.179 --> 00:53:04.500 up with? Actually, I'm going to go with some 00:53:04.500 --> 00:53:07.559 friends we had met on Shiprock Cruise several 00:53:07.559 --> 00:53:09.969 years ago. And we stayed in contact. And hopefully 00:53:09.969 --> 00:53:11.550 at some point we'll do some touring with them. 00:53:11.630 --> 00:53:13.969 They released a new record at the ass end of 00:53:13.969 --> 00:53:17.710 last year. It's Beartooth. And the record, The 00:53:17.710 --> 00:53:21.530 Surface. And I really like their opening of the 00:53:21.530 --> 00:53:23.650 title track, The Surface. I thought that was 00:53:23.650 --> 00:53:26.750 a killer riff. It was a cool way to start. I 00:53:26.750 --> 00:53:29.250 really enjoyed the singles they put out leading 00:53:29.250 --> 00:53:32.170 up to the release of the record. But after I 00:53:32.170 --> 00:53:34.650 had kind of played them all to death, it was 00:53:34.650 --> 00:53:37.670 nice to hear some of the new tracks on it. And 00:53:37.670 --> 00:53:40.849 that one definitely did not disappoint. I have 00:53:40.849 --> 00:53:43.070 said it a million times on this show and people 00:53:43.070 --> 00:53:45.510 know the next sentence that's going to come out 00:53:45.510 --> 00:53:48.369 of my mouth. I'm a sucker for album opening tracks. 00:53:48.550 --> 00:53:51.889 I mentioned it with your opening track on altruistic. 00:53:51.889 --> 00:53:54.510 I always pay attention like the opening. You 00:53:54.510 --> 00:53:57.630 got to hook me. Or else I might not give the 00:53:57.630 --> 00:54:00.170 rest of the album a listen. And I know that's, 00:54:00.230 --> 00:54:02.590 I sound like I'm being elitist and snobby, but 00:54:02.590 --> 00:54:04.949 if you don't grab people's attention from the 00:54:04.949 --> 00:54:08.070 get -go in this day and age with streaming, they 00:54:08.070 --> 00:54:10.269 might not get to track two. They might veer off 00:54:10.269 --> 00:54:12.650 in a million different places. And I'm an album 00:54:12.650 --> 00:54:15.469 listening guy. So the album opener has got to 00:54:15.469 --> 00:54:18.750 be massive. And I have to say that could be my 00:54:18.750 --> 00:54:21.809 favorite song. It's tough because I also love 00:54:21.809 --> 00:54:25.019 Look the Other Way. And Riptide, I mean, it's 00:54:25.019 --> 00:54:28.239 a great album, but The Surface might be the pinnacle 00:54:28.239 --> 00:54:30.500 of that album, too. So I love the fact that you 00:54:30.500 --> 00:54:32.980 went with that one. There's another riff in that 00:54:32.980 --> 00:54:36.780 record that absolutely is a sledgehammer, is 00:54:36.780 --> 00:54:39.820 that one he does with Hardy. Oh, The Better Me. 00:54:39.940 --> 00:54:42.719 Oh, my God, that pull -off riff? Yep, yep, yep. 00:54:43.280 --> 00:54:48.059 That is gracier than all fast food food put together. 00:54:50.360 --> 00:54:55.630 Absolutely love it. Following that up, Jesus, 00:54:55.789 --> 00:54:59.969 I'm scrolling up and down my list. Oh, God, I 00:54:59.969 --> 00:55:02.610 could go in so many different directions here. 00:55:03.030 --> 00:55:07.050 As could I, man. Like, this is, oh, my God. Okay, 00:55:07.190 --> 00:55:09.849 I'm going to lean into your album opening track 00:55:09.849 --> 00:55:12.250 here. Okay. And I'm going to go with another 00:55:12.250 --> 00:55:15.329 song just like Beartooth was released at the 00:55:15.329 --> 00:55:19.150 tail end of 2023. And the album is called Pretty 00:55:19.150 --> 00:55:25.510 Vicious. Like my pick of Lacey Strum, Luke Spiller 00:55:25.510 --> 00:55:29.630 from the Struts has such a unique voice. I'm 00:55:29.630 --> 00:55:31.269 going to go with the album opener, Too Good at 00:55:31.269 --> 00:55:34.389 Raising Hell. When you have a band that channels 00:55:34.389 --> 00:55:39.510 the Rolling Stones, Queen, David Bowie, and modern 00:55:39.510 --> 00:55:43.250 hard rock and modern pop music and puts it all 00:55:43.250 --> 00:55:46.530 together and creates this unique sound. Again, 00:55:46.610 --> 00:55:49.800 we're pulling from the UK here. The fact that 00:55:49.800 --> 00:55:52.440 this band isn't a household name yet in the US 00:55:52.440 --> 00:55:56.480 shocks me. They should be. And there's this pop 00:55:56.480 --> 00:55:58.880 sensibility to their sound, but it's seamless. 00:55:59.199 --> 00:56:02.380 They could, like you had said with White Reaper, 00:56:02.599 --> 00:56:05.320 they could be on so many different bills and 00:56:05.320 --> 00:56:08.840 seamlessly fit right in and hit with different 00:56:08.840 --> 00:56:11.599 audiences. The Struts are a band that I could 00:56:11.599 --> 00:56:14.340 sit with my 70 -year -old parents and relate 00:56:14.340 --> 00:56:17.469 with them on. That's not easy to do in 2024. 00:56:17.949 --> 00:56:20.329 The fact that they also brought a horn section 00:56:20.329 --> 00:56:24.789 into this track adds this like level of exile 00:56:24.789 --> 00:56:29.309 on main street swagger to the song that look, 00:56:29.369 --> 00:56:32.389 I love jazz music and hearing horns in a rock 00:56:32.389 --> 00:56:35.809 song. If it's done the right way, I think elevates 00:56:35.809 --> 00:56:39.260 it. And too good at raising hell is just a. He's 00:56:39.260 --> 00:56:41.400 literally blowing on his nails and wiping them 00:56:41.400 --> 00:56:43.960 on his shirt. There's just such a swagger and 00:56:43.960 --> 00:56:47.079 such a confidence to this song that I feel it's 00:56:47.079 --> 00:56:49.579 just a great album opener. And I wish more people 00:56:49.579 --> 00:56:51.679 knew about The Struts. And I think they're going 00:56:51.679 --> 00:56:54.539 to. I really think they're going to. The one 00:56:54.539 --> 00:56:57.159 thing about The Struts is, I will say this, I 00:56:57.159 --> 00:57:01.099 fell victim to being a bit of a, I say the word 00:57:01.099 --> 00:57:03.480 I'm looking for is maybe a snob. When I saw, 00:57:03.559 --> 00:57:05.739 because I'd seen a picture of them before I actually 00:57:05.739 --> 00:57:08.380 listened to them. Now, I immediately thought, 00:57:08.460 --> 00:57:10.480 oh, we're going to have another band that's trying 00:57:10.480 --> 00:57:12.800 to do what The Darkness did, but it's almost 00:57:12.800 --> 00:57:14.920 going to come across as a joke. And here I am 00:57:14.920 --> 00:57:17.340 prejudging them before I even listen to it. And 00:57:17.340 --> 00:57:19.480 that shouldn't be the way I look. I mean, I know 00:57:19.480 --> 00:57:21.159 how that feels. I shouldn't fucking do that to 00:57:21.159 --> 00:57:26.320 anybody else. And everything you said is 100 00:57:26.320 --> 00:57:30.099 % correct. That band is a fucking monster. They 00:57:30.099 --> 00:57:34.000 sound great. They sound genuine. And so it really 00:57:34.000 --> 00:57:36.320 shut me up for any kind of preconceived notions 00:57:36.320 --> 00:57:38.739 that I had about this band. They just, they're 00:57:38.739 --> 00:57:40.739 a rock and roll band through and through and 00:57:40.739 --> 00:57:45.260 they kick ass. And that was my bad to even, even 00:57:45.260 --> 00:57:48.639 prejudge that before I even listened to it. You 00:57:48.639 --> 00:57:51.400 know, they, that band is right down to tasty 00:57:51.400 --> 00:57:54.139 guitar licks and really like the swagger. You 00:57:54.139 --> 00:57:56.800 said a hundred percent there as singer holds 00:57:56.800 --> 00:57:59.519 himself with a, you know, like a giant and it's 00:57:59.519 --> 00:58:02.920 awesome. Well, look, What I've always told people 00:58:02.920 --> 00:58:05.960 is even Stevie Ray Vaughan would miss a note 00:58:05.960 --> 00:58:10.099 here and there. We all sometimes look at an artist 00:58:10.099 --> 00:58:12.420 and judge before we hear we've all been there. 00:58:12.519 --> 00:58:15.019 You see a picture and you're going, I'm not going 00:58:15.019 --> 00:58:17.400 to like this or a band walks out on stage. And 00:58:17.400 --> 00:58:19.179 before they play a single note, you're like, 00:58:19.280 --> 00:58:21.699 oh, God, I don't know if I'm going to dig this. 00:58:22.059 --> 00:58:24.519 And I'm going to put a pin in that statement. 00:58:24.980 --> 00:58:27.980 Okay. And save it because you have the next pick 00:58:27.980 --> 00:58:30.630 for track eight. Oh, shit. What am I going to 00:58:30.630 --> 00:58:33.889 put on for the next one? I am actually going 00:58:33.889 --> 00:58:36.949 to... We kind of touched base on them earlier 00:58:36.949 --> 00:58:40.610 on the show, but you had mentioned Tool. Now, 00:58:40.650 --> 00:58:45.289 as an outing for the band, we all went and saw 00:58:45.289 --> 00:58:47.610 Tool on their last tour, came through Edmonton. 00:58:48.150 --> 00:58:51.909 And it was incredible. You just sort of stand 00:58:51.909 --> 00:58:54.909 there and your mouth is wide open. And one of 00:58:54.909 --> 00:58:57.360 the things... You know, some people have all 00:58:57.360 --> 00:58:59.780 these ideas of like backing tracks and vocal 00:58:59.780 --> 00:59:02.260 tracks and blah, blah, blah. But I know for a 00:59:02.260 --> 00:59:04.619 fact there were no vocal tracks while he was 00:59:04.619 --> 00:59:08.059 singing out there. And that's the beauty of Latin 00:59:08.059 --> 00:59:10.900 music sometimes is the imperfections of it all. 00:59:10.980 --> 00:59:12.980 It's why like art on the wall looks so great 00:59:12.980 --> 00:59:15.820 because it's not perfect. And that's why it should 00:59:15.820 --> 00:59:17.739 be. Don't get me wrong. I like the idea of like 00:59:17.739 --> 00:59:19.599 when they add things to make things sound bigger. 00:59:19.739 --> 00:59:22.719 But if you're enhancing the show, I get it. But 00:59:22.719 --> 00:59:24.659 if it always sounds the exact same, well, then 00:59:24.659 --> 00:59:26.340 they're kind of missing the beauty of it all. 00:59:26.400 --> 00:59:30.559 You know what I mean? And when they play Jambi 00:59:30.559 --> 00:59:35.880 from 10 ,000 Days, because I'd been following 00:59:35.880 --> 00:59:38.599 their set list FM stuff and I'm a total nerd 00:59:38.599 --> 00:59:40.199 when it comes to that stuff. What are they going 00:59:40.199 --> 00:59:43.260 to play? And I was like, oh, they're not. It 00:59:43.260 --> 00:59:46.019 looked like there was a zone in the set. And 00:59:46.019 --> 00:59:47.719 I saw from all the past ones that they were like, 00:59:47.800 --> 00:59:49.360 we'll put this one in tonight. We'll put this 00:59:49.360 --> 00:59:51.579 one in tonight. That they were changing, but 00:59:51.579 --> 00:59:53.300 they were doing mostly fear and oculum stuff. 00:59:53.739 --> 00:59:56.619 But when they did zombie in Edmonton, a damn 00:59:56.619 --> 01:00:01.840 near shit, a solid gold brick. It's that guitar 01:00:01.840 --> 01:00:06.619 lick at the beginning and the song starts growing 01:00:06.619 --> 01:00:09.059 and you're sitting there going, I've been listening 01:00:09.059 --> 01:00:10.260 to the song for three and a half minutes and 01:00:10.260 --> 01:00:11.559 the song still hasn't done anything, but it's 01:00:11.559 --> 01:00:15.099 totally captivated you. And then the drums. kind 01:00:15.099 --> 01:00:17.780 of demolish your ass the whole way to the end. 01:00:17.840 --> 01:00:19.760 And I couldn't get enough of that song. And when 01:00:19.760 --> 01:00:22.780 they did a live, I was felt like a, like a school 01:00:22.780 --> 01:00:25.400 kid again, you know, with pressure and heavy 01:00:25.400 --> 01:00:28.860 music smiling and lacked like a total Goomba. 01:00:29.619 --> 01:00:33.179 Oh, I get it. When I saw them in 2019 on the 01:00:33.179 --> 01:00:36.869 fear inoculum tour in New Jersey. I got Jambi 01:00:36.869 --> 01:00:39.030 in the set list too. And that was like, okay, 01:00:39.170 --> 01:00:41.369 if you're picking something from 10 ,000 days, 01:00:41.570 --> 01:00:44.670 you've chosen correctly. There was no, you chose 01:00:44.670 --> 01:00:47.809 poorly in this situation. However, I will say 01:00:47.809 --> 01:00:49.510 I was the one person that I thought I was going 01:00:49.510 --> 01:00:52.250 to get mugged on the way in because I walked 01:00:52.250 --> 01:00:54.650 in saying, I really hope they play Numa tonight. 01:00:54.969 --> 01:00:57.250 And people were like, we don't want to hear all 01:00:57.250 --> 01:00:58.789 of Fear Inoculum. I'm like, whoa, calm down, 01:00:58.849 --> 01:01:01.230 guys. I actually like Fear Inoculum. I'm sorry. 01:01:02.400 --> 01:01:05.480 love the new album i think it's great and numa 01:01:05.480 --> 01:01:07.980 to me was one of danny carey's like drumming 01:01:07.980 --> 01:01:12.099 opuses so i love that and the night i saw them 01:01:12.099 --> 01:01:15.639 i got to see them do enema live they did parable 01:01:15.639 --> 01:01:19.099 and parabola back to back which was like the 01:01:19.099 --> 01:01:21.579 fact that they mix sets up i'm the same way i'm 01:01:21.579 --> 01:01:24.920 a nerd where if i'm going to see a band i always 01:01:24.920 --> 01:01:28.539 look to see what they're playing when if they 01:01:28.539 --> 01:01:31.659 mix up the sets from night to night I had mentioned 01:01:31.659 --> 01:01:33.900 the Blackened thing from Metallica on Side A. 01:01:34.079 --> 01:01:36.900 I was following every one of their overseas dates. 01:01:37.079 --> 01:01:39.139 And the first two or three dates, they didn't 01:01:39.139 --> 01:01:41.380 play Blackened. And I'm going, son of a bitch, 01:01:41.460 --> 01:01:43.179 I'm not going to get my Blackened. And then they 01:01:43.179 --> 01:01:45.699 started reintroducing it. And I'm like, oh God, 01:01:45.800 --> 01:01:48.199 but New Jersey's the first show on the US tour. 01:01:48.280 --> 01:01:51.119 So I have no clue. It could be resetting the 01:01:51.119 --> 01:01:54.039 slate and they might not play it again. But thankfully 01:01:54.039 --> 01:01:56.440 they did. So I totally get where you're going 01:01:56.440 --> 01:01:59.400 with that. Yeah, man. And you know what? I'm 01:01:59.400 --> 01:02:01.599 with you. I like Fear Noculum. But here's the 01:02:01.599 --> 01:02:04.320 thing is there's so many years between every 01:02:04.320 --> 01:02:07.599 Tool album that Tool fans get to sit there and 01:02:07.599 --> 01:02:09.260 get to know it for years and years and years. 01:02:09.380 --> 01:02:11.460 We didn't really get that with Fear Noculum. 01:02:11.480 --> 01:02:13.420 And I think that's why you were probably going 01:02:13.420 --> 01:02:15.980 to get mugged. Yeah. I mean, but at the end of 01:02:15.980 --> 01:02:18.590 the day, I feel like. And I've listened to the 01:02:18.590 --> 01:02:21.869 albums many, many times since 2019. It ages like 01:02:21.869 --> 01:02:24.250 a, I'm sure Maynard would be happy to hear this. 01:02:24.309 --> 01:02:27.789 It ages like a fine wine because, and I'm really 01:02:27.789 --> 01:02:30.210 hoping we don't have to wait until what, 2027 01:02:30.210 --> 01:02:33.269 to get another Tool album. I'm hoping we get 01:02:33.269 --> 01:02:36.489 something sooner than that. I hope so too. But 01:02:36.489 --> 01:02:39.590 when I was a kid, to kind of go back a little 01:02:39.590 --> 01:02:42.489 bit, the first Rage Against the Machine and the 01:02:42.489 --> 01:02:46.289 first LP by Tool, Undertow, were like, to me, 01:02:46.650 --> 01:02:48.250 Those were like the Bibles, you know what I mean? 01:02:48.289 --> 01:02:50.050 And then when you have Maynard actually singing 01:02:50.050 --> 01:02:52.670 on the Rage Against the Machine record. Oh, yeah. 01:02:52.809 --> 01:02:54.710 I was like, oh, of course these guys are one 01:02:54.710 --> 01:02:57.050 of the same and cool as hell. And when I knew 01:02:57.050 --> 01:03:00.329 Tool was always going to be a band that I had 01:03:00.329 --> 01:03:03.670 respect for was when I learned that both Danny 01:03:03.670 --> 01:03:08.190 Carey and Maynard, well, Danny played drums and 01:03:08.190 --> 01:03:11.010 Maynard was one of the voices in Green Jell -O's 01:03:11.010 --> 01:03:13.690 Three Little Pigs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maynard 01:03:13.690 --> 01:03:17.139 is the nut by the hair. When I found out that 01:03:17.139 --> 01:03:19.280 that was Maynard, I'm like, this dude's frigging 01:03:19.280 --> 01:03:22.500 awesome. Like they don't take themselves so seriously 01:03:22.500 --> 01:03:24.440 all the time, but their music says otherwise. 01:03:24.780 --> 01:03:27.559 And I love that. Absolutely. Yeah, that's cool. 01:03:27.840 --> 01:03:29.920 All right. So now I'm going to pull the pin out 01:03:29.920 --> 01:03:32.340 of what I was thinking before. And this is a 01:03:32.340 --> 01:03:35.300 band that I saw open up for Shinedown. And the 01:03:35.300 --> 01:03:37.699 only thing I knew about them was one of my friends 01:03:37.699 --> 01:03:42.059 told me they were kind of emo rock. which casts 01:03:42.059 --> 01:03:45.219 a wide net. And there is some emo rock I'm a 01:03:45.219 --> 01:03:48.800 big fan of and other emo rock that I'm not at 01:03:48.800 --> 01:03:53.239 all. And going by just that and the band's name, 01:03:53.400 --> 01:03:57.699 I feel like I formed an opinion without hearing 01:03:57.699 --> 01:04:01.960 a single note. And to this day, I regret even 01:04:01.960 --> 01:04:05.239 having that thought enter my mind. So here we 01:04:05.239 --> 01:04:07.619 are at the show. I didn't know what to expect. 01:04:08.339 --> 01:04:11.239 And I usually do a ton of research of the bands 01:04:11.239 --> 01:04:13.920 I'm going to go see as opening acts. So I'm familiar 01:04:13.920 --> 01:04:16.880 with everything. However, we had just driven 01:04:16.880 --> 01:04:20.480 up to New Hampshire that day. And my father -in 01:04:20.480 --> 01:04:22.159 -law said to me, as soon as we got out of the 01:04:22.159 --> 01:04:24.800 car, have you ever heard of this band Shine Down? 01:04:25.039 --> 01:04:26.719 And I said, of course, I love them. He goes, 01:04:26.820 --> 01:04:29.780 my neighbor's selling tickets. They're like seventh 01:04:29.780 --> 01:04:33.699 row. And she just wants to sell them. Just to 01:04:33.699 --> 01:04:35.380 get rid of them because they can't go tonight. 01:04:35.559 --> 01:04:37.980 They're like $60 she's going to sell them for. 01:04:38.119 --> 01:04:40.860 Do you and Katie, my wife, want to go see it? 01:04:40.900 --> 01:04:42.679 I said, of course, we'll take a night out. We 01:04:42.679 --> 01:04:45.059 just spent seven hours in the car with the kids. 01:04:45.679 --> 01:04:49.280 We'll take it. So we went over there and I got 01:04:49.280 --> 01:04:51.539 to see and hear for the first time ever. We got 01:04:51.539 --> 01:04:54.639 there just in time to see Dinosaur Pile Up opened, 01:04:54.760 --> 01:04:56.599 which I love those guys. And they're in my list 01:04:56.599 --> 01:05:00.400 as well. But Bad Flower was on next. And they're 01:05:00.400 --> 01:05:03.340 set. blew my frigging mind. And I'm going to 01:05:03.340 --> 01:05:05.739 go with the song, The Jester. As soon as they 01:05:05.739 --> 01:05:07.420 were done with their set, I walked right over 01:05:07.420 --> 01:05:10.199 to the merch table, bought the CD, and it's been 01:05:10.199 --> 01:05:13.239 in constant rotation ever since. That song just 01:05:13.239 --> 01:05:16.880 hit me in such an emotional level. I feel like 01:05:16.880 --> 01:05:19.960 they're definitely one of those bands that is 01:05:19.960 --> 01:05:22.460 just on the cusp of exploding to something a 01:05:22.460 --> 01:05:25.320 lot bigger. And if they keep on the path they're 01:05:25.320 --> 01:05:27.079 at, they're going to be headlining the places 01:05:27.079 --> 01:05:29.480 Shinedown does, I think. So I'm going to go with 01:05:29.480 --> 01:05:33.400 The Jester. man that band bad flower is so good 01:05:33.400 --> 01:05:36.320 i know uh broken love has done a has done an 01:05:36.320 --> 01:05:38.900 american tour with them but we actually played 01:05:38.900 --> 01:05:41.059 with it as well on ship rocked and i got to meet 01:05:41.059 --> 01:05:42.780 some of the guys in the band we're all super 01:05:42.780 --> 01:05:45.619 nice chill dudes i'm with you when they got on 01:05:45.619 --> 01:05:47.320 stage i was like i had no idea what to expect 01:05:47.320 --> 01:05:51.480 and they absolutely lit the place on fire they 01:05:51.480 --> 01:05:55.940 were right unbelievable yeah good singers good 01:05:55.940 --> 01:05:59.500 players, good vibe on stage. Like when it was 01:05:59.500 --> 01:06:01.800 time to get tender, it was time to get tender. 01:06:01.880 --> 01:06:03.519 When it was time to rock out, it was like, holy 01:06:03.519 --> 01:06:07.079 shit, this is killer. And it was a total rollercoaster 01:06:07.079 --> 01:06:10.059 for the entire set. And my wife even turned to 01:06:10.059 --> 01:06:12.920 me and she said, I wasn't expecting this. And 01:06:12.920 --> 01:06:16.840 neither was I. It's just, they blew the roof 01:06:16.840 --> 01:06:19.559 off the place. And I know immediately why Shinedown 01:06:19.559 --> 01:06:22.360 brought them out because Shinedown doesn't bring. 01:06:22.989 --> 01:06:25.530 weak opening acts with them i know that there's 01:06:25.530 --> 01:06:28.190 been this talk in rock music that bands like 01:06:28.190 --> 01:06:30.550 to bring in groups that they know they could 01:06:30.550 --> 01:06:33.329 do better than on stage shinedown always seems 01:06:33.329 --> 01:06:35.530 to be that band that brings out groups that challenge 01:06:35.530 --> 01:06:39.309 them to be better on stage and to me when a band 01:06:39.309 --> 01:06:42.329 brings a talented opening act out on the road 01:06:42.329 --> 01:06:45.670 with them the winner is the audience Absolutely. 01:06:45.909 --> 01:06:48.550 And I want to see bands challenging each other. 01:06:48.690 --> 01:06:51.849 Look, it's not a competition. Please let me state 01:06:51.849 --> 01:06:54.849 that. But when you bring a band out that you 01:06:54.849 --> 01:06:57.230 know is going to destroy the place every single 01:06:57.230 --> 01:06:59.650 night, and then you get to do the same, it's 01:06:59.650 --> 01:07:02.949 just more amazing concert memories for the people 01:07:02.949 --> 01:07:07.090 in attendance. Man, the idea that from a musician's 01:07:07.090 --> 01:07:08.869 standpoint, it's like, man, we're all in this 01:07:08.869 --> 01:07:11.210 together, man. We've been doing this, we've been 01:07:11.210 --> 01:07:13.920 slugging it out. For someone to try to almost 01:07:13.920 --> 01:07:17.860 sabotage your career, that seems, to me, fucking 01:07:17.860 --> 01:07:21.079 bananas. That is crazy. Why would someone do 01:07:21.079 --> 01:07:24.139 that? Also, it's art. It's so hard to say this 01:07:24.139 --> 01:07:25.960 one's better than this because everything is 01:07:25.960 --> 01:07:29.179 so subjective. Hey, freaking men, man. That is 01:07:29.179 --> 01:07:32.800 something I preach each and every single episode 01:07:32.800 --> 01:07:36.099 on this show. Yeah. If a song doesn't vibe with 01:07:36.099 --> 01:07:39.039 you, that doesn't mean that the person next to 01:07:39.039 --> 01:07:41.440 you isn't moved to tears. And neither one of 01:07:41.440 --> 01:07:44.719 you are wrong. But the fact that a band can sometimes 01:07:44.719 --> 01:07:47.340 command where people that normally wouldn't vibe 01:07:47.340 --> 01:07:50.380 to it and bring them in and convince them through 01:07:50.380 --> 01:07:52.960 their stage show and do their performance. Again, 01:07:53.039 --> 01:07:56.219 the winners are the audience. And to me, when 01:07:56.219 --> 01:07:59.059 people go in with a closed mind, they're missing 01:07:59.059 --> 01:08:01.920 out because there's so much amazing stuff that 01:08:01.920 --> 01:08:04.940 they're too in their box, too narrow minded to 01:08:04.940 --> 01:08:07.920 embrace. So I'm always the person that says, 01:08:08.099 --> 01:08:11.269 what time does the first band go on? And my buddy's 01:08:11.269 --> 01:08:12.650 going, well, we can hang out in the parking lot. 01:08:12.650 --> 01:08:14.690 Hell, you can hang out in the parking lot. I 01:08:14.690 --> 01:08:16.810 want to see every band on the bill because I 01:08:16.810 --> 01:08:20.689 have no idea if my next favorite band is on this 01:08:20.689 --> 01:08:22.850 bill tonight. Hell, yeah. Well, you know the 01:08:22.850 --> 01:08:24.670 old saying, what's good for the goose ain't good 01:08:24.670 --> 01:08:29.850 for the gander. Amen. I do also, as a collective, 01:08:30.050 --> 01:08:32.289 if all the bands rock, I mean, for me personally, 01:08:32.510 --> 01:08:35.850 bringing out, one, people that are cool, good 01:08:35.850 --> 01:08:39.529 hang, and two, a band that I like. I mean, it's 01:08:39.529 --> 01:08:42.189 like, again, why would you bring out someone 01:08:42.189 --> 01:08:45.010 that you want to stomp around? That's bully mentality. 01:08:45.350 --> 01:08:47.529 You know what I mean? And rock and roll, I got 01:08:47.529 --> 01:08:48.890 a place for fucking bullies. You know what I 01:08:48.890 --> 01:08:51.350 mean? Nope. I've always been the kind of person 01:08:51.350 --> 01:08:53.930 where if I'm at a show and there's an opening 01:08:53.930 --> 01:08:56.810 band and somebody's not giving them a chance, 01:08:57.029 --> 01:09:00.909 I find another place to go hang because it ruins 01:09:00.909 --> 01:09:04.069 my experience. Especially when you get people 01:09:04.069 --> 01:09:05.869 that have had a couple too many and they think 01:09:05.869 --> 01:09:08.890 that they're the star of the room. drives me 01:09:08.890 --> 01:09:11.630 nuts it's like concert etiquette to me go and 01:09:11.630 --> 01:09:13.670 be in the moment and if you don't want go hang 01:09:13.670 --> 01:09:16.010 at the bar if it's not your thing no problem 01:09:16.010 --> 01:09:18.050 but yeah room for the people that want to be 01:09:18.050 --> 01:09:20.829 up front man it's a challenge every night i i 01:09:20.829 --> 01:09:23.310 i kind of embrace the idea of someone being like 01:09:23.310 --> 01:09:28.109 your band sucks i'm like fuck yeah well sandy 01:09:28.109 --> 01:09:32.109 we have talked about 19 songs tonight okay and 01:09:32.109 --> 01:09:35.529 as my guest you kick things off and you also 01:09:35.529 --> 01:09:41.829 get the privilege or despair of closing out this 01:09:41.829 --> 01:09:46.310 playlist what is the cherry on top of our hard 01:09:46.310 --> 01:09:50.489 rock playlist now would if you were me would 01:09:50.489 --> 01:09:53.670 you go on the side of sweets or would you go 01:09:53.670 --> 01:09:58.109 on the side of like thunderish considering When 01:09:58.109 --> 01:10:00.329 this song ends, the tape's going to flip over 01:10:00.329 --> 01:10:02.789 and go back to seeing Red by the Architects. 01:10:02.989 --> 01:10:05.529 I'd go out thunderous. I'd go out thunderous. 01:10:05.529 --> 01:10:08.430 So that way it continues this endless loop of 01:10:08.430 --> 01:10:10.949 the story we've told. But that's just me. That's 01:10:10.949 --> 01:10:13.090 just me. Well, you know what? Yeah, you're right. 01:10:13.930 --> 01:10:16.810 Okay, there's a brand new band. And they're considered 01:10:16.810 --> 01:10:19.270 a metal band. But I don't know if I would agree 01:10:19.270 --> 01:10:22.050 with the statement. I think they're brand new. 01:10:22.130 --> 01:10:24.529 And I almost feel like when I'm like, oh, these 01:10:24.529 --> 01:10:26.550 kids listen to crazy shit nowadays. You know 01:10:26.550 --> 01:10:29.800 what I mean? But I can't seem to stop listening 01:10:29.800 --> 01:10:33.439 to their stuff. And they wear masks like Slipknot 01:10:33.439 --> 01:10:35.819 and all that stuff. But they keep showing up 01:10:35.819 --> 01:10:38.079 on my feeds. And Spotify seems to know that I 01:10:38.079 --> 01:10:41.880 like it. And it's that bad sleep token. Yep. 01:10:41.979 --> 01:10:44.460 Yep. You know what I mean? And everything about 01:10:44.460 --> 01:10:46.720 it, I was kind of like, I'll get dragging my 01:10:46.720 --> 01:10:50.100 ass to get into it. Because I was like, oh, everything 01:10:50.100 --> 01:10:52.199 in my being is saying, you don't like this. You 01:10:52.199 --> 01:10:56.560 don't like this. But I fucking do like it. And 01:10:56.560 --> 01:10:58.720 I'm not going to pick one of their singles because 01:10:58.720 --> 01:11:01.119 I actually have found a B -side that I found 01:11:01.119 --> 01:11:04.739 to be like, in my opinion, top notch. And it's 01:11:04.739 --> 01:11:07.819 the ending track on their new record, Take Me 01:11:07.819 --> 01:11:10.479 Back to Eden. But the song is called Euclid. 01:11:11.239 --> 01:11:15.460 And at first I was like, I didn't know what to 01:11:15.460 --> 01:11:18.760 think about it. But his melodies are so syncopated 01:11:18.760 --> 01:11:22.500 with pop sensibilities that it's like, I'm having 01:11:22.500 --> 01:11:24.770 a tough time not listening to the song. Again, 01:11:24.829 --> 01:11:27.810 right after I listened to it, it's catchy. It's 01:11:27.810 --> 01:11:31.550 got some heavier bits in it. They revisit parts 01:11:31.550 --> 01:11:33.890 from other songs where they kind of put, you 01:11:33.890 --> 01:11:36.989 know, like it's just it's a very great, great 01:11:36.989 --> 01:11:40.170 track. Sleep token to me. And maybe this is because 01:11:40.170 --> 01:11:42.329 we're based in the US and they're from out of 01:11:42.329 --> 01:11:45.270 England. I feel like they just came from out 01:11:45.270 --> 01:11:48.649 of nowhere, out of the blue. And everybody overnight 01:11:48.649 --> 01:11:51.449 just knew who they were. And that might be because 01:11:51.449 --> 01:11:54.939 people were fans of them. from overseas and then 01:11:54.939 --> 01:11:57.180 when they started playing shows in the u .s they 01:11:57.180 --> 01:12:00.399 just naturally exploded i love the fact that 01:12:00.399 --> 01:12:04.039 again you can't put it in a box is it metal is 01:12:04.039 --> 01:12:07.340 it progressive i use the word in quotes there's 01:12:07.340 --> 01:12:10.560 progressive elements there's indie rock and pop 01:12:10.560 --> 01:12:14.380 elements all kind of thrown together and again 01:12:14.380 --> 01:12:17.600 that means it's its own thing and it's unique 01:12:17.600 --> 01:12:20.920 and it's different yeah and i'll just say it 01:12:21.180 --> 01:12:24.100 I don't think they need the masks, but I think 01:12:24.100 --> 01:12:26.600 they probably helped in the beginning to make 01:12:26.600 --> 01:12:29.359 the story. But I think the music stands without 01:12:29.359 --> 01:12:33.640 the masks. Totally. And again, rewind many decades 01:12:33.640 --> 01:12:37.659 ago when Kiss started. Was it the makeup that 01:12:37.659 --> 01:12:39.800 got them exposure or was it the fact that they 01:12:39.800 --> 01:12:42.579 had great songs? And the answer is yes to both. 01:12:42.600 --> 01:12:45.680 But would the music have gotten there without 01:12:45.680 --> 01:12:48.380 the two together? I don't know. I don't know 01:12:48.380 --> 01:12:51.340 how finicky. the music scene was back then because 01:12:51.340 --> 01:12:54.220 it was before i was born but to me i don't think 01:12:54.220 --> 01:12:56.880 sleep token needs it but i think it's part of 01:12:56.880 --> 01:13:00.000 the experience as well now yeah and again it's 01:13:00.000 --> 01:13:02.680 his piece of art and it's how he's presenting 01:13:02.680 --> 01:13:05.479 it and again that's when i'm going back do whatever 01:13:05.479 --> 01:13:07.520 the hell you want. It's your piece. Let's hear 01:13:07.520 --> 01:13:09.819 how it goes. I mean, if I can sit there and listen 01:13:09.819 --> 01:13:12.000 to your music and not know how you look, I don't 01:13:12.000 --> 01:13:13.800 give a shit. Right. But it's like, if you, but 01:13:13.800 --> 01:13:15.539 if I go and see you live and that's part of your 01:13:15.539 --> 01:13:17.680 whole package, then, then all the power to you, 01:13:17.720 --> 01:13:19.420 you know, at the end of the day, it's, I love 01:13:19.420 --> 01:13:24.180 kiss too. I fucking love kiss. But yeah, again, 01:13:24.359 --> 01:13:26.840 like when I, when I first heard them, I was almost 01:13:26.840 --> 01:13:28.979 wondering, I'm like, maybe it's just, maybe I'm, 01:13:28.979 --> 01:13:31.720 I'm the wrong demographic for it, but I gave 01:13:31.720 --> 01:13:33.750 it another try. And I was like, geez. Christ, 01:13:33.789 --> 01:13:36.149 he's got some nice melodies there. And I kind 01:13:36.149 --> 01:13:38.369 of kept going from there. And I've been following 01:13:38.369 --> 01:13:40.630 them. I've kind of heard them during when we 01:13:40.630 --> 01:13:42.630 were forced to be at home. So I didn't have anywhere 01:13:42.630 --> 01:13:44.729 to be. So I got a real good chance to sit with 01:13:44.729 --> 01:13:46.750 these records and kind of get to know them a 01:13:46.750 --> 01:13:49.470 little bit better, you know. And that was, I 01:13:49.470 --> 01:13:51.970 thought that band really, really shone because 01:13:51.970 --> 01:13:53.890 it was totally different from all the other stuff 01:13:53.890 --> 01:13:56.489 I was listening to. And I think the vibe coming 01:13:56.489 --> 01:13:59.810 out of the jester into Sleep Token is just perfect. 01:14:00.130 --> 01:14:03.399 I was going to go with Bleed by Meshuggah. Okay. 01:14:03.579 --> 01:14:06.380 And it like a real kick in the ass. But then 01:14:06.380 --> 01:14:08.220 right as I was about to say it, I kind of looked 01:14:08.220 --> 01:14:12.699 down like. And that's the fun of this. It's totally 01:14:12.699 --> 01:14:16.619 spontaneous. Absolutely. Absolutely. Well, there 01:14:16.619 --> 01:14:19.060 you have it, folks. Side B of our ultimate hard 01:14:19.060 --> 01:14:21.479 rock mixtape, which kicked off with Royal Tusks 01:14:21.479 --> 01:14:25.500 Hated, Broken Loves Like a Drug, Eva Under Fire's 01:14:25.500 --> 01:14:27.960 Blow, Rage Against the Machines, How I Could 01:14:27.960 --> 01:14:30.479 Just Kill a Man, White Reaper's Fog Machine, 01:14:31.039 --> 01:14:33.899 Beartooth's The Surface, The Struts, Too Good 01:14:33.899 --> 01:14:37.180 at Raising Hell, Tools, Jombie, Bad Flowers, 01:14:37.319 --> 01:14:40.380 The Jester, and Sleep Tokens, Euclid. Head over 01:14:40.380 --> 01:14:43.079 to myweeklymixtape .com to hear all the songs 01:14:43.079 --> 01:14:45.920 we've discussed in this mix through the playlist 01:14:45.920 --> 01:14:50.060 embedded on the episode page. Now, Sandy, Altruistic 01:14:50.060 --> 01:14:52.800 is out in the open right now. What does the rest 01:14:52.800 --> 01:14:57.229 of 2024 have in store for Royal Tusk? Well, I 01:14:57.229 --> 01:14:59.390 mean, when this comes out, we'll be ass deep 01:14:59.390 --> 01:15:02.090 in a Canadian tour, touring Canada in the middle 01:15:02.090 --> 01:15:03.890 of winter. I mean, I don't know who the hell's 01:15:03.890 --> 01:15:07.430 bright idea was that, but I mean. Couldn't do 01:15:07.430 --> 01:15:11.390 Key West. Oh yeah, no shit. But yeah, I think 01:15:11.390 --> 01:15:14.109 we'll finish the Canadian tour. We're using this 01:15:14.109 --> 01:15:16.970 time to actually reintroduce ourselves to everybody 01:15:16.970 --> 01:15:19.149 that, you know, because we've been gone for a 01:15:19.149 --> 01:15:22.550 little while due to personal sicknesses and just, 01:15:22.649 --> 01:15:25.420 you know, and it's fun to. put new music out 01:15:25.420 --> 01:15:28.159 and you get those messages from people that that 01:15:28.159 --> 01:15:30.000 didn't leave our sides and stuff like that and 01:15:30.000 --> 01:15:32.300 they know who they are and we you know we love 01:15:32.300 --> 01:15:35.180 them so much and everybody from from coast to 01:15:35.180 --> 01:15:37.100 coast from his tippy north to his tippy south 01:15:37.100 --> 01:15:39.340 to texas you know what i mean like everyone has 01:15:39.340 --> 01:15:41.520 been showing us love and i can't wait to get 01:15:41.520 --> 01:15:43.539 back out there and so hopefully we'll be back 01:15:43.539 --> 01:15:46.600 down to america sooner than later and uh hopefully 01:15:46.600 --> 01:15:48.680 back to europe as well too Well, I was going 01:15:48.680 --> 01:15:50.720 to say, if you're going to be coming back with 01:15:50.720 --> 01:15:54.039 a statement, altruistic is the statement to come 01:15:54.039 --> 01:15:56.180 back with. Congratulations on the new album. 01:15:56.500 --> 01:15:58.859 Look forward to seeing you guys when you swing 01:15:58.859 --> 01:16:01.539 through New Jersey. This has been an absolute 01:16:01.539 --> 01:16:03.819 pleasure, Sandy. Thank you so much for taking 01:16:03.819 --> 01:16:06.340 the time to join me on My Weekly Mixtape. My 01:16:06.340 --> 01:16:07.899 man, thanks for thinking of us, man. That was 01:16:07.899 --> 01:16:10.380 awesome. That was super fun. Remember, you can 01:16:10.380 --> 01:16:12.800 find My Weekly Mixtape on almost all the social 01:16:12.800 --> 01:16:15.880 media haunts at My Weekly Mixtape. You can also 01:16:15.880 --> 01:16:18.260 head to myweeklymixtape .com to check out the 01:16:18.260 --> 01:16:21.600 full catalog of My Weekly Mixtape episodes. 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