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Welcome to My Weekly Mixtape, a podcast that

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takes the classic mixtape approach to building

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a modern playlist. I'm your host, Brian Colburn.

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Joining me once again as guest curator is fellow

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Pantheon Podcast Network mate, Jason Whistle,

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host of the It's Not That Bad and There Can Only

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Be One podcast. Jason, welcome back to the show.

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I feel kind of guilty for taking over the airwaves

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on your show, but see how it's our guilty pleasures

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episode. I feel no guilt today. I'm going to

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have so much fun with this. Same here. Like you

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said, we are talking guilty pleasures, but we're

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going to tie it to a decade and we're going to

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tie it to the 1980s. And I just want to make

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one thing crystal clear to everybody listening

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before we get started. For me personally, and

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I don't know about you, Jason, I have never and

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will never feel guilt. listening to a song that

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I truly enjoy. And I don't think any of the listeners

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of this show should ever feel guilt enjoying

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a song. However, breaking the fourth wall a little

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bit, the title of 80s Guilty Pleasures is something

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people immediately understand versus the original

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title I had, which was the ultimate songs a lot

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of people seem to hate, but you actually love

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playlist. Oh, I mean, when I was making my list,

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it was one of those things where I had to sit

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there and put myself into that headspace of when

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this came out, if I had the album, was I hiding

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the album from my friends at the time? Like right

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now, like it's 2024. I don't give a damn what

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anyone thinks about the music in my collection,

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because if we went through my CD book and started

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flipping through the pages, you sit there and

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go. Oh, you have that? Oh, I remember when that

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was big. It's no longer, oh, you have that. Oh.

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The stigma is gone. So, Jason, what approach

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did you take coming up with these songs? Because

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I have a specific one I know for this particular

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episode. I had to put myself back into my 80s

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mindset, into the songs that I was listening

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to at the time. A. The album release date mattered.

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There was one song that the minute we started

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talking about this, I was like, oh, this has

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to go in. It has to go in. But it was on a 1979

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album. And then I'm like, well, maybe there's

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that gray area where it's like, oh, maybe it

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was released in 1980 as a single. No, it was

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released in 78 as a single. Then the album came

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out in 79. As much as I wanted to put Rock Lobster

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on my list, I could not put Rock Lobster by the

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352s on my list. But the way I take a look at

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it, a lot of these songs were either songs that

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I found myself putting on mixtapes for whatever

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mood I was in in the 80s at the time, regardless

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of who was going to listen to it, or songs that

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if someone put a cover of that song out today,

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I would crank it and jam it because the song

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carries no matter what the genre would be. Well,

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for me, like I said at the top of the episode,

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I never felt guilt. But I understand what you're

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talking about, because there were tapes where

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if I had buddies coming over, it wasn't so much

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guilt. It was, dare I use fear, because kids

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are horrible sometimes growing up. But once I

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got to high school, I felt like the crew I hung

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out with were all music people and could care

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less as long as you enjoyed it. understanding

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going on when i was in high school that i know

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a lot of people didn't deal with so what i did

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was i sought out articles based on the most hated

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songs of the 1980s as well as all time and i

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found lists from the likes of rolling stone magazine

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npr nme ranker and 80s fan sites and i just pulled

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from the songs that they hate And I love. So

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I kind of went with that approach. I think there's

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also the overplayed factor because some of these

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songs are probably going to would also fit onto

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a list of novelty songs of the 80s as well. But

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they were overplayed like to death to the point

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of, you know, wonder how Taylor Swift fans or

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non Taylor Swift fans feel now where everything

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is Taylor Swift. Think of some of these songs

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and how often they were played on the radio.

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over and over and over again until it felt like

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Stockholm Syndrome that you liked it at that

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point and you finally just rebelled against it

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and switched the station. I'm curious how many

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times, because there's 20 songs on this mixtape,

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how many times are we going to say that a song

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is a bop? Well, from my bank of songs, it'll

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be at least 10. I've lost track of the number

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of times of my notes I have here that says it's

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a bop. It's still a bop. It could be a bop. All

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right. All right. Well, let's get down to business

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then and see what we've got going tonight. As

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I mentioned, Jason and I are curating an 80s

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quote -unquote guilty pleasures mixtape, and

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we'll use the old cassette deck approach. Jason,

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as my special guest, will begin side A with his

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first song choice, and then I'll add a song that

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I feel best follows up that choice. We'll then

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flip -flop choosing songs until we've mapped

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out 10 songs for side A. We'll then give our

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mixtape a proverbial flip and we'll map outside,

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be only this time I'll kick things off with Jason

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choosing second. Our overall goal for this episode

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is to craft the best 80s guilty pleasures mixtape

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possible through only 20 songs. At the end of

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the show, you can take our conversation to the

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next level by visiting the episode page at myweeklymixtape

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.com to give our final mixtape a listen. via

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the embedded playlist. And if you like what you're

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hearing on the show, you can help me out by either

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telling a friend, leaving the show a five -star

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review wherever you're tuning in, or becoming

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a Patreon mixtaper at patreon .com forward slash

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myweeklymixtape. And several of the Patreon mixtapers

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chimed in with songs that they would use to kick

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off the festivities tonight, and I want to give

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a shout -out to those. Chad LaMassa chimed in

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with Martika's Toy Soldiers, which... Not only

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do I totally agree with being a banger song,

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I'll just go on record and say it's one of my

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favorite songs of the 80s, hands down, Hard Stop.

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I love that tune. Great pick there. Seeker chimed

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in with Alice Cooper's Roses on White Lace from

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the Raise Your Fist and Yell album. That was

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the one that just before Trash or Age of Reason

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by John Farnham, who is an Aussie pop rock male

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vocalist. And he says Richard Marks comes to

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mind as a correlation to listeners here in the

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U .S. David Owens chimed in with the song that

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was number one on his birthday. Jay Guile's band

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Centerfold love the track. Tom Hutchinson chimed

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in with Party All the Time by Eddie Murphy. I

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have to admit, this one's a little embarrassing.

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I had a mixtape as a kid growing up, and I had

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the song listed as Stevie Wonder Party All the

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Time. I thought it was Stevie Wonder. Oh, well.

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Ben from the Too Vague podcast chimed in with

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Murray Head's One Night in Bangkok. And then

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Ben also followed up with another contender.

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I know there's something going on by Frida saying

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that Phil Collins drumming is unmistakable. And

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last but certainly not least, Philip chimed in

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with Brand New Lover by Dead or Alive saying

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he doesn't stylistically like similar acts along

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the lines of Tears for Fears, Frankie Goes to

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Hollywood, Thompson Twins, Simple Minds. However,

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Dead or Alive is so over the top, it's hard to

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not just let go and enjoy it. So right there,

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we've already got a ton of great songs on the

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table. Jason, I'm officially going to press the

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record button on our mixtape now and turn the

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mic over to you. What song are you choosing to

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kick off our Guilty Pleasures playlist? Oh, there's

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a few on that list that are actually on my list

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as well. But I'm going to start with one that

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wasn't mentioned and one that would definitely

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fit in an 80s one -hit wonders cassette as well.

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I'm going to go with I Want Candy from Bow Wow

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Wow. Not only do you have a very cool, almost

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Caribbean -style tribal drumming going on in

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this, but that surf guitar lead. Like, honestly,

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if you don't have that little guitar lick in

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your head, even the lyrics alone. Okay, the lyrics

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are a little annoying after a while, but that

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guitar literally is the lead vocalist to me in

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this song. And there were a few songs that came

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out in that era where the guitar may as well,

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if you had put it out as an instrumental. The

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guitar would basically be your singer. And I

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want candy. I don't care who you are, what decade

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it is. This song comes on. You're going to dance.

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You're absolutely going to dance and enjoy yourself.

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So I'm going to go with the horribly named band

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Bow Wow Wow and go with I Want Candy. Now, if

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they were called Bow Wow Wow, Yippee Yo, Yippee

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Yay, would you change your mind? Only if you

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say it in a really lower voice. Honestly, you

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had mentioned almost a Caribbean feel. To me,

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I hear Bo Diddley through the 80s glasses with

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this song. I hear a Bo Diddley song. So I love

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that. Oh, absolutely. To me, that was this blues

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rock only with this, and I'm using quote marks

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in the air, modern sheen of the 80s. Because

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when you're a kid, you knew that 80s sound meant

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like it's new music, not your parents' oldies

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station kind of stuff. And to me, this was a

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song that both my parents enjoyed and I enjoyed

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as well. So I love that tune. And I'm going to

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follow up with another one that certainly fell

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under the my parents loved it and so did I. And

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this was one that makes pretty much every list

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of worst songs of all time. And I've honestly

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never understood why. Rolling Stone, I think,

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topped off their list with it. But 1985, Knee

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Deep in the Hoopla, which was an awesome name

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for an album. I'm just going right in headfirst.

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Starships, We Built This City. I don't care that

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everyone ranks this song as the worst song of

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all time. I love it. It always puts a smile on

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my face. And hell, in 2011, the Muppets used

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the song in the Muppets movie. It was only called

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the Muppets, so I couldn't say the Muppet movie

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because that was 1979. But I digress. In the

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Muppets, it was used as a montage. And my daughter

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at the time. fell in love with the song. So she

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always asked to play it. And it was one of those

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few, my kid likes a song and they're playing

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it over and over and over again, songs that never

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bothered me. And one other thing I loved about

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this song, and this is going to show my radio,

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how obsessed with radio I am as a kid. I actually

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have a cassette sitting right in front of me.

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One of my original mixtapes, it's called the

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Get Down Rock Party. I recorded stuff off the

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radio and I made it. In 1987 is where I figured

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it out because what I did is I googled a bunch

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of the songs that were on it. And it looks like

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it was right around early 87. And there's a version

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of We Built This City on it. However, at the

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beginning of the song, Z100, the New York affiliate

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radio station, added a jingle for the station

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into the actual song. So it made it tied to the

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New York City market, which to me I thought was

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really cool. And I'm sure... The network did

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it for all the stations across the country. But

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as far as I was concerned as a kid, there was

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that special version that you can only hear on

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the radio, which who uses that phrase ever now?

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So we built the city. Let's get knee deep in

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the hoopla for track two. I think that song hits

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on some of those lists more because of where

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Jefferson Starship kind of came from. You know,

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people who are going to be equated to Jefferson

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Airplane sit there and probably have the same.

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mindset when they listen to 80s heart versus

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barracuda era heart or keyboard era rush versus

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2112 era rush so i can see where that kind of

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falls into play but it really was the song of

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the moment like it was everywhere on tv and in

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movies i mean yes when i think movies and jefferson

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starship i instantly think of the mannequin It

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really was. And one of the songs that would fit

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in almost every single possible avenue of media

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that you could think of and overplayed. But I

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think I know where I'm going to follow up this.

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Because I'm going to go with another song that

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has been used over and over and over again in

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TV shows and movies. I'm going to go with Timbuk3's

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The Future's So Bright I Gotta Wear Shades. okay

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hey it's a fun song and i feel bad that it's

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going to get tied in with you know with the movie

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dream a little dream which yeah we've done an

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episode on that as well so that episode exists

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but i mean this song is fun as hell and along

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with the i don't know if it's a real harmonica

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or a fake harmonica but it definitely kind of

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carries that tune and if this comes on the radio

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on a road trip No matter how much you may have

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been tired of it from the number of times it's

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appeared in TV shows, you're going to sing along.

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Could not agree more. So far, this is an 80s

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guilty pleasures playlist that could completely

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double as an 80s party mixtape. Oh, absolutely.

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To me, Timbuk3 was one of those songs that as

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time went on, people started reminiscing for

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it. Because I know when people make 80s mixtapes

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now, this is kind of a staple. But at the time,

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it was an eye roll. And I think time served this

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song well. And following it up, I want to keep

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this upbeat kind of party vibe going. And I'm

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going to go with a song that NPR listed as one

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of its worst songs of the 80s. And I want to

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challenge this. And I want to go to 1988. And

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the reason I'm going to challenge this is my

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old cover band used to play it. And when the

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drum beat starts, it could be hundreds of different

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songs. However, when the bass line kicks in.

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Escape Club, Wild Wild West from 1988 Wild Wild

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West. This song is so much fun. It's one of those

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songs that every time we played it. people in

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the room would stop in their tracks. It was just

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an unexpected cover song. And for the first verse,

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people are going, why do I know this? Where do

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I know this? And by the end, they're all singing

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along with it. And then we got to talk about

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that breakdown in the middle. Is it reggae? Is

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it rap? I don't know what he's doing in it, but

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it's just such a snapshot of the 80s where if

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you did it now, it would be a mockery. But back

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then, it was just pop music. So I love it. Wild

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Wild West. I don't have any Fresh Prince on my

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list of songs because if you're going to do something

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called Wild Wild West and then go with Fresh

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Prince, that would have been a future connection,

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if you will, because Wild Wild West is definitely

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a movie that we'll have to cover at some point.

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But how to follow that up? Okay. I think I know

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where to go with this because there's a few.

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There's a few that are really kind of begging

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to be jumped in here. I think I'm going to let

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my Canadian show a little bit on this one. So

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apologies to anyone who is tired of me pumping

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up the tires on various Canadian artists. But

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this one needs to go in here. We had our answer,

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our Canadian answer to Billy Idol in the 80s.

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His name was Corey Hart. Uh -huh. He had the

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typical Billy Idol -esque dour look and the spiked

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hair and the, you know, don't smile, don't you

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dare smile in your videos and had that swagger.

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So when you tune on to CBC and video hits comes

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on and they start... First song, first album.

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The album's called First Offense. The song is

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Sunglasses at Night. And if you heard that song

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and you didn't try to wear your sunglasses at

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night and then accidentally walk into a tree,

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you were doing Canada absolutely wrong. But the

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song still carries to this day. And it almost

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kind of reclaimed itself much in the way that

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I remember you showing me that acoustic version

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of Aha's Take on Me and how that song kind of

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matured into that performance, which that is

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a phenomenal performance. Corey Hart is kind

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of. come back around and it's like okay no these

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songs were actually good and put into that kind

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of a setting it would still carry on very well

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but trust me when i say sunglasses at night may

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have been played as much as the canadian anthem

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when it came out dude this is literally just

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an 80s dance party episode at this point every

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single elementary through middle school dance

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I remember sunglasses at night and people would

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put sunglasses on in the gym with the lights

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going. Yeah. What a vibe that song was. And I

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think we could finally use it so far. Every one

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of these songs, it's a bop. It's definitely a

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bop. And yeah, when you think about the sunglasses

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in the gym at the dance, it feels like you're

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in and, you know. pretty in pink or not breakfast

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club because they were all in the library but

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you know one of those teen era type films from

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the 80s where you knew the cool kid because they

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were wearing the sunglasses no matter what time

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of day it almost felt like that attitude in those

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films and tv shows came from a song like sunglasses

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and when you listen to the song too it's not

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necessarily just a straight pop pop it's got

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some atmosphere to it as well Most certainly.

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And I think that's where that Billy Idol -esque

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connection comes into play because Billy Idol

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had the heavier side, but he also had a lot of

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the pop side. And I think people forget that

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that was there. And with Corey Hart, I feel like

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the pop side of what Billy Idol did was more

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on display because there was less of the guitars

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to really kind of make it a gray area between

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the pop and the heavier side of things. Oh, absolutely.

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So following that up, I'm just going to lean

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right into this party thing we got going here.

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Because this is all upbeat, all fun, all dancey.

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And I'm going to go with a song that Blender

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Magazine listed as one of the 50 worst songs

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ever. And I have to disagree. Because in 1986,

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not only was everybody having fun tonight, everybody

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was Wang Chunging tonight. They made Wang Chung

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a verb from 1986's Mosaic. I had the 45 and I

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spun that thing to the point where my parents

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were ready to say, okay, that 45 might be getting

00:20:02.720 --> 00:20:06.720
lost if it keeps spinning. I love the song. It's

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so much fun. Wang Chung is awesome. And any era

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of Wang Chung that gets put on a worse song,

00:20:13.619 --> 00:20:17.000
that's just raising your musical snob nose and

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looking down at it. Because Wang Chung is just

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such a fun band. I don't see how anybody, even

00:20:24.059 --> 00:20:27.359
though this one has more pop in it, I don't see

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where anybody can hate this group. As much as

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Blender Magazine saying the worst of all time.

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That's really far -fetched, man. You could argue

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that it might have been the most overplayed song

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of that year. But that's about the only knock

00:20:43.160 --> 00:20:45.980
against the song that you can get. I mean, how

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many times where there's just like... nonsensical

00:20:49.579 --> 00:20:51.960
lyrics, but just sing along with them because

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it doesn't matter. And yeah, everyone I'm sure

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had that, you know, oh, hey, you want a Wang

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Chung tonight? Because it's literally, it's begging.

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It's almost like when Def Leppard put out Let's

00:21:03.640 --> 00:21:05.200
Get Rocked. I'm like, we know what you're talking

00:21:05.200 --> 00:21:07.599
about. We know exactly what you're talking about.

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But it was fun. It was tongue in cheek. And it's

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a bop. I'm not going to lie. It's a bop as well.

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I'm of two minds on this next song. If I want

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to keep the momentum going for what we've got

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for this party side, I know what to go with.

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Or do I want to, like every high school dance,

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about six or seven songs in, throw in a slow

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song because that's what you would do at a high

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school dance. Maybe it's time to slow it down

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a little bit. Let me paint a picture. It was

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the 80s, and there were two singers. And you

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were either in one camp or you were in the other.

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You were either team Debbie Gibson or you were

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team Tiffany. I was team Tiffany. Yes. Correct.

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Look, I love Debbie Gibson. I love Debbie Gibson.

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Tiffany was my first ever crush. Thank you. I

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know. I already know the song you picked, but

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I'll just let you go ahead. I have the album.

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Yeah. Long sleeve sweater, red hair. Count me

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in. And again, nothing gets Debbie Gibson. I

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love that Debbie Gibson is almost having like

00:22:18.140 --> 00:22:22.259
a career resurgence right now. And yes, to tie

00:22:22.259 --> 00:22:24.920
it back to, it's not that bad. The very first

00:22:24.920 --> 00:22:28.940
episode I ever recorded for that show was on

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mega shark versus giant octopus. and she's in

00:22:32.549 --> 00:22:34.450
it there's actually a movie i can't remember

00:22:34.450 --> 00:22:38.069
which one it was but debbie gibson and tiffany

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were both in it and they had so much fun filming

00:22:41.470 --> 00:22:43.569
that they actually had like a a fight scene between

00:22:43.569 --> 00:22:45.130
their two characters and it was just so like

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this is the 80s brawl for all that we wish we

00:22:48.569 --> 00:22:53.220
had Just go out. I think it was like Mega Python

00:22:53.220 --> 00:22:55.640
versus Gatorade or something like that. Something

00:22:55.640 --> 00:22:57.980
absolutely horrible from the asylum, but it gave

00:22:57.980 --> 00:23:00.880
us that 80s dream match. But no, you know, it's

00:23:00.880 --> 00:23:03.839
could have been. Yes. I get. I think we're alone

00:23:03.839 --> 00:23:07.140
now is probably her biggest song of all time,

00:23:07.160 --> 00:23:10.160
but could have been as a ballad. And I don't

00:23:10.160 --> 00:23:12.980
know if it's the reverb on her voice in that

00:23:12.980 --> 00:23:17.069
recording. I mean, it's a great ballad. And I

00:23:17.069 --> 00:23:19.650
lost track of the number of slow song mixtapes

00:23:19.650 --> 00:23:22.490
I made just because I was really into slow songs

00:23:22.490 --> 00:23:25.910
in the 80s at the time. Although, since we're

00:23:25.910 --> 00:23:28.269
talking Debbie Gibson here, I'm going to tell

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you a story here. I remember one Christmas. I

00:23:31.690 --> 00:23:34.789
got the first ever two cassettes in my collection

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in that same Christmas. One was definitely me.

00:23:39.869 --> 00:23:43.130
It was Motley Crue's Shout at the Devil. The

00:23:43.130 --> 00:23:46.769
other was Debbie Gibson. Out of the blue? It

00:23:46.769 --> 00:23:50.750
was completely out of the blue. And both. Both.

00:23:51.349 --> 00:23:55.089
Figuratively and literally. Yes. But there were

00:23:55.089 --> 00:23:57.009
still good songs on both. And I think I have

00:23:57.009 --> 00:24:00.690
even put Foolish Beat and like some slow song

00:24:00.690 --> 00:24:03.529
off of Shadow of the Devil on the same mixtape

00:24:03.529 --> 00:24:05.250
because, well, they were the two tapes that I

00:24:05.250 --> 00:24:07.950
had. But yeah, you could like everything. It

00:24:07.950 --> 00:24:09.950
was okay. But no, I was Team Tiffany for sure.

00:24:10.289 --> 00:24:12.990
Well, anyone that knows me, including my wife,

00:24:13.069 --> 00:24:16.450
knows where I stand with this. Now, Tiffany started

00:24:16.450 --> 00:24:20.829
her mall tour, fun fact, at the Bergen Mall in

00:24:20.829 --> 00:24:25.470
Paramus, New Jersey in 1987. And my mom didn't

00:24:25.470 --> 00:24:28.430
take me. So I'm still pissed about that. Oh,

00:24:28.430 --> 00:24:31.789
no. Oh, no. Oh, yes. I missed it. And part of

00:24:31.789 --> 00:24:34.589
it made the video for the damn song. So imagine

00:24:34.589 --> 00:24:39.009
that. I loved that first album. I actually had

00:24:39.009 --> 00:24:42.589
two songs in my list from the same album. I had

00:24:42.589 --> 00:24:45.910
I Think We're Alone Now. But then I also, depending

00:24:45.910 --> 00:24:49.049
on where we went with this, had a deeper cut

00:24:49.049 --> 00:24:51.710
from the album just to show my Tiffany fandom.

00:24:51.789 --> 00:24:54.009
The album opening track should have been me.

00:24:54.349 --> 00:24:57.230
I thought that was a great song, unapologetically.

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And I still do. It's still my favorite Tiffany

00:24:59.509 --> 00:25:01.690
song. I just know most people would have went,

00:25:01.769 --> 00:25:04.210
what? Because they're thinking that it's going

00:25:04.210 --> 00:25:06.130
to be, could have been, or I think we're alone

00:25:06.130 --> 00:25:09.049
now. So you totally scooped me on that. And now

00:25:09.049 --> 00:25:12.119
that we got that, for me at least. awkward middle

00:25:12.119 --> 00:25:14.759
school slow dance out of the way. Let's pick

00:25:14.759 --> 00:25:17.440
up the pace a little bit as we're easing back

00:25:17.440 --> 00:25:21.039
into the end of the side here. And I'm going

00:25:21.039 --> 00:25:25.500
to go with a song that I feel gets equal amounts

00:25:25.500 --> 00:25:30.339
of hate as it does love. There is such a divide

00:25:30.339 --> 00:25:34.500
on this song. So I don't know if this technically

00:25:34.500 --> 00:25:38.630
would fit guilty pleasure. Because of the fact

00:25:38.630 --> 00:25:41.390
that there are so many people that love this

00:25:41.390 --> 00:25:44.930
song. But the amount of hate this song gets,

00:25:45.150 --> 00:25:49.170
I feel, is so vocal and so loud that even though

00:25:49.170 --> 00:25:51.930
it's half the room, it's worth pointing out.

00:25:52.029 --> 00:25:54.970
And I'm going to go back to 1982 in a song that

00:25:54.970 --> 00:25:57.950
NPR listed as one of the worst songs of all time.

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And I'm going to go with Toto's Africa from Toto

00:26:00.970 --> 00:26:04.599
4. I am team love with this one. I always have.

00:26:04.740 --> 00:26:07.299
I've always thought this was a great song. This

00:26:07.299 --> 00:26:09.680
was a song where, look, my parents listened to

00:26:09.680 --> 00:26:13.619
Hold the Line. When Africa came out, it was just

00:26:13.619 --> 00:26:16.099
another song from a band they enjoyed. So to

00:26:16.099 --> 00:26:19.579
me, it was just continuing down the Toto path.

00:26:20.109 --> 00:26:22.170
And anybody that could look and say, oh, well,

00:26:22.210 --> 00:26:24.690
Toto is cheesy. Get out of here. I mean, look

00:26:24.690 --> 00:26:27.190
at the lineup they had at that point. Bobby Kimball

00:26:27.190 --> 00:26:30.849
on lead vocals, Steve Lukather on guitar, David

00:26:30.849 --> 00:26:35.029
Peitch, Steve Piccaro, David Huntgate and Jeff

00:26:35.029 --> 00:26:39.410
Piccaro. Get out of here. Toto is awesome. And

00:26:39.410 --> 00:26:43.849
then the song also hit a modern divide when Weezer

00:26:43.849 --> 00:26:47.690
covered it in 2018. Just like when Toto's came

00:26:47.690 --> 00:26:51.059
out. there was equal amounts of hate and love

00:26:51.059 --> 00:26:54.319
for Weezer's version, which they didn't deviate.

00:26:54.440 --> 00:26:59.000
It was a paint -by -numbers cover, slightly downtuned

00:26:59.000 --> 00:27:01.480
from the original. But besides that, they didn't

00:27:01.480 --> 00:27:04.079
take any liberties with it. Quiet Drive took

00:27:04.079 --> 00:27:06.759
liberties with their punk cover of it and turned

00:27:06.759 --> 00:27:11.220
it into a high -speed punk anthem. So to me,

00:27:11.240 --> 00:27:13.099
if you want to hear a different version of Africa,

00:27:13.220 --> 00:27:14.960
that's the one you listen to. But Weezer's was

00:27:14.960 --> 00:27:18.569
great. And it was just a modern telling of the

00:27:18.569 --> 00:27:21.569
song. They didn't reimagine it. But again, just

00:27:21.569 --> 00:27:24.250
as equal amount of love and hate for Toto's Africa

00:27:24.250 --> 00:27:28.750
in 1982 and in 2018. So to me, this one kind

00:27:28.750 --> 00:27:31.829
of fits in multiple layers as the guilty pleasure.

00:27:32.470 --> 00:27:34.890
It's funny. You mentioned those versions of the

00:27:34.890 --> 00:27:39.650
song. And I have two saved in my Spotify liked

00:27:39.650 --> 00:27:44.240
songs collection. Neither of the two versions

00:27:44.240 --> 00:27:47.079
are ones that you have listed yet. And there

00:27:47.079 --> 00:27:50.619
are a lot of versions of Todos Africa way back

00:27:50.619 --> 00:27:53.039
at the beginning of TuneStyles. Jay Sweet and

00:27:53.039 --> 00:27:56.599
I did an entire episode dedicated on the sheer

00:27:56.599 --> 00:28:00.839
amount of Africa covers. Oh, absolutely. The

00:28:00.839 --> 00:28:02.799
first one that comes to mind is the one from

00:28:02.799 --> 00:28:08.119
Chaos Divine. Phenomenal, heavy version of that

00:28:08.119 --> 00:28:11.599
song. The other one. is the only one of these

00:28:11.599 --> 00:28:14.680
versions that I have actually seen live, and

00:28:14.680 --> 00:28:18.380
it's from Chris DeBerg, who was actually able

00:28:18.380 --> 00:28:21.299
to pull that falsetto off, because let's be honest,

00:28:21.460 --> 00:28:23.700
there are times when a song comes on the radio,

00:28:23.880 --> 00:28:26.160
and you know it, and you want to sing it, and

00:28:26.160 --> 00:28:29.700
there's no way you're hitting that note, whether

00:28:29.700 --> 00:28:31.900
through falsetto or whether you actually have

00:28:31.900 --> 00:28:34.740
the octave range to do it, because it ain't happening.

00:28:35.119 --> 00:28:37.740
It's just not happening. Like that song comes

00:28:37.740 --> 00:28:40.460
on and the chorus comes up and it's like, no,

00:28:40.700 --> 00:28:42.579
no, I'm going to save everyone in the car and

00:28:42.579 --> 00:28:45.140
just not sing along at this point. And now Jay

00:28:45.140 --> 00:28:47.640
and I might need to revisit that Toto Africa

00:28:47.640 --> 00:28:49.779
episode of Tune Styles because those are two

00:28:49.779 --> 00:28:52.440
other versions we didn't even mention on that

00:28:52.440 --> 00:28:56.380
episode. But it is, it's a phenomenal song and

00:28:56.380 --> 00:29:01.299
I don't see the hate for it at all. I don't either.

00:29:01.400 --> 00:29:03.940
And that's again, why I say. There's no guilt

00:29:03.940 --> 00:29:05.920
for me with any of these songs. This whole first

00:29:05.920 --> 00:29:09.240
side has just been one banger after another as

00:29:09.240 --> 00:29:11.619
far as I'm concerned. There might be a layer

00:29:11.619 --> 00:29:15.200
of 80s cheese, as my wife would say, on the sandwich

00:29:15.200 --> 00:29:18.579
we're concocting right now, but that's kind of

00:29:18.579 --> 00:29:21.400
the beauty of the 80s. It didn't take itself

00:29:21.400 --> 00:29:24.059
so seriously. There was a lot of synth, and I

00:29:24.059 --> 00:29:27.240
don't know why people equate synthesizers with

00:29:27.240 --> 00:29:30.299
cheese. Maybe because it was a product of its

00:29:30.299 --> 00:29:32.900
time, but these songs were played in constant

00:29:32.900 --> 00:29:35.079
rotation on the radio and none of them bothered

00:29:35.079 --> 00:29:39.599
me. I'm going to throw a song in there that you

00:29:39.599 --> 00:29:43.160
could argue that maybe Africa kind of qualifies

00:29:43.160 --> 00:29:45.220
Toto as a one hit wonder if that's the only song

00:29:45.220 --> 00:29:47.660
you know from them, which in some cases it might

00:29:47.660 --> 00:29:49.839
actually be. I'm not calling Toto a one hit wonder

00:29:49.839 --> 00:29:51.940
by any stretch of the imagination, but for some,

00:29:51.980 --> 00:29:55.079
it may at least feel like that. I'm going to

00:29:55.079 --> 00:29:57.759
go with a song. that definitely qualifies as

00:29:57.759 --> 00:30:00.680
a one -hit wonder and did end up on a few guilty

00:30:00.680 --> 00:30:02.700
pleasures list that i did see out there while

00:30:02.700 --> 00:30:04.960
i was doing my research and saying am i really

00:30:04.960 --> 00:30:07.380
calling this a guilty pleasure because i have

00:30:07.380 --> 00:30:10.440
zero guilt at all on this one and this one you

00:30:10.440 --> 00:30:12.660
would consider a banger as well and i would love

00:30:12.660 --> 00:30:17.079
love to hear a modern retake on this one so i'm

00:30:17.079 --> 00:30:19.140
going to lean on you and hopefully you know of

00:30:19.140 --> 00:30:23.319
a cover of big countries in a big country that

00:30:23.319 --> 00:30:27.240
song I wish I could hear it live. I wish I could

00:30:27.240 --> 00:30:31.740
see some band do a modern rock kick -ass version

00:30:31.740 --> 00:30:34.980
of this song. But even the original still has

00:30:34.980 --> 00:30:37.619
almost like a galloping beat to it. And I freaking

00:30:37.619 --> 00:30:41.500
love it. Well, I can help you, but not the way

00:30:41.500 --> 00:30:44.640
you're thinking. Because you're looking for a

00:30:44.640 --> 00:30:49.140
hard rock version of it. And I don't think I

00:30:49.140 --> 00:30:52.650
know a hard rock version of it. However... I

00:30:52.650 --> 00:30:56.930
do want to tip my hat to my guest on episode

00:30:56.930 --> 00:30:59.970
35. One of my favorite jam bands of all time,

00:31:00.210 --> 00:31:04.269
Jim Lachlan of Mo episode 35, the ultimate Mo

00:31:04.269 --> 00:31:08.150
playlist Mo covered in a big country for their

00:31:08.150 --> 00:31:11.789
2001 album dither. And I highly suggest you look

00:31:11.789 --> 00:31:14.690
that version up to me. I like it more than the

00:31:14.690 --> 00:31:18.210
original with zero disrespect to the original.

00:31:18.289 --> 00:31:20.410
The original was good enough that when I heard

00:31:20.410 --> 00:31:25.279
Mo's version, I'm like, Nice. This is a song

00:31:25.279 --> 00:31:29.220
I would love to hear a band, maybe like a Paramore,

00:31:29.319 --> 00:31:32.180
do a cover of this. Put a little synth in behind.

00:31:32.380 --> 00:31:35.859
Why not? Go for it. Or a band like Against the

00:31:35.859 --> 00:31:38.319
Current. Great band in New York. And if you like

00:31:38.319 --> 00:31:40.799
Paramore, you're going to love Against the Current.

00:31:41.019 --> 00:31:43.359
They're the kind of band I could see easily doing

00:31:43.359 --> 00:31:46.579
a fun cover of this one as well. Agreed. Agreed.

00:31:47.599 --> 00:31:50.839
And I get the. pleasure of putting the stamp

00:31:50.839 --> 00:31:54.900
at the end of this side. And I know exactly what

00:31:54.900 --> 00:31:57.660
I'm going to do because I don't know how many

00:31:57.660 --> 00:32:01.359
playlists this could possibly make. And I would

00:32:01.359 --> 00:32:03.839
love to know when I named this song, if you're

00:32:03.839 --> 00:32:06.440
out there listening, what playlists you would

00:32:06.440 --> 00:32:09.359
put this song on and keep it clean. People be

00:32:09.359 --> 00:32:13.380
nice to me, but I am going to Rick roll the entire

00:32:13.380 --> 00:32:16.700
audience. 1987. Whenever you needed somebody,

00:32:16.819 --> 00:32:19.480
Rick Astley is never going to give you up. Rolling

00:32:19.480 --> 00:32:21.940
Stone ranked it one of the worst songs of the

00:32:21.940 --> 00:32:24.940
80s. And I'm sorry, the whole Rick Roll thing,

00:32:25.180 --> 00:32:29.140
I think it started off being mean. But then I

00:32:29.140 --> 00:32:32.900
think because of the Rick Roll, the younger generation

00:32:32.900 --> 00:32:38.240
actually started liking the song. And I don't

00:32:38.240 --> 00:32:40.519
remember people hating this song in the 80s.

00:32:40.799 --> 00:32:43.119
I just remember it being on the radio a lot.

00:32:43.180 --> 00:32:44.519
And it's one of those songs that when it was

00:32:44.519 --> 00:32:46.759
on Z100, it would be in between all the other

00:32:46.759 --> 00:32:49.859
great hits. 1987 was such an amazing year of

00:32:49.859 --> 00:32:53.059
music. I vividly remember hearing Never Gonna

00:32:53.059 --> 00:32:55.720
Give You Up into Guns N' Roses' Sweet Child of

00:32:55.720 --> 00:32:59.359
Mine. 1987 radio, baby. And it worked because

00:32:59.359 --> 00:33:01.799
that was top 40 at the time. Top 40 didn't, it

00:33:01.799 --> 00:33:04.920
wasn't pigeonholed into one genre. I also remember

00:33:04.920 --> 00:33:08.480
at one point hearing Skid Row followed by, I

00:33:08.480 --> 00:33:10.980
want to say Vanilla Ice. Maybe I'm wrong, but

00:33:10.980 --> 00:33:13.559
artists you normally wouldn't hear back to back.

00:33:13.700 --> 00:33:17.119
That was top 40 radio in the 80s. And then over

00:33:17.119 --> 00:33:19.920
time, it got a lot more compartmentalized where

00:33:19.920 --> 00:33:24.279
top 40 was very much a singular sound and a singular

00:33:24.279 --> 00:33:26.920
genre. And that's probably what I love about

00:33:26.920 --> 00:33:29.559
the 80s so much. It was so varied. It was so

00:33:29.559 --> 00:33:32.220
open and never going to give you up. Yes, it's

00:33:32.220 --> 00:33:36.559
a Rick Roll. Everybody has seen that gag, but

00:33:36.559 --> 00:33:38.240
I think that's what makes the song enduring.

00:33:38.500 --> 00:33:40.700
The fact that the Foo Fighters brought Rick Astley

00:33:40.700 --> 00:33:42.839
up on stage to perform it with them in a hard

00:33:42.839 --> 00:33:45.480
rock version, Rick rolling an audience of 20

00:33:45.480 --> 00:33:48.380
,000 people. The fact that Rick Astley himself

00:33:48.380 --> 00:33:51.240
can smile at this, because I'll be honest with

00:33:51.240 --> 00:33:53.460
you, I would love if they Colburn rolled people

00:33:53.460 --> 00:33:55.279
with one of my songs. Think about the amount

00:33:55.279 --> 00:33:57.140
of streams this dude is getting from all the

00:33:57.140 --> 00:33:59.859
Rick rolls. I mean, to me, it's brilliant. Whoever

00:33:59.859 --> 00:34:02.400
came up with the idea originally, bravo, cheers,

00:34:02.740 --> 00:34:06.539
kudos to you, slow golf clap on that one. But

00:34:06.539 --> 00:34:09.559
I love the song. And when I get Rick rolled,

00:34:09.699 --> 00:34:12.579
I actually let the song play out. That's how

00:34:12.579 --> 00:34:15.079
bad it is. I don't hate it at all. So closing

00:34:15.079 --> 00:34:16.940
out Side A, Rick Astley's never going to give

00:34:16.940 --> 00:34:20.659
you up. When this song comes on in the car, and

00:34:20.659 --> 00:34:23.920
if the family is doing a drive and going somewhere

00:34:23.920 --> 00:34:29.159
as a group, my oldest, my teenage son, hates

00:34:29.159 --> 00:34:33.539
it because everyone else in the car is singing

00:34:33.539 --> 00:34:37.280
along and dancing and like you know as much as

00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:39.340
you can car dance you know with the maybe the

00:34:39.340 --> 00:34:41.960
roxbury head bop that goes along with it because

00:34:41.960 --> 00:34:43.880
you're in a car seat you shouldn't be dancing

00:34:43.880 --> 00:34:46.900
especially when you're the one driving but it's

00:34:46.900 --> 00:34:50.840
one of those things where it's just so infectiously

00:34:50.840 --> 00:34:56.260
happy it really is and there were certain songs

00:34:56.260 --> 00:35:00.179
that because of the mood of the 80s you can't

00:35:00.179 --> 00:35:02.239
help but smile and i think yes it did suffer

00:35:02.239 --> 00:35:04.820
from overplay and was also one of those songs

00:35:04.820 --> 00:35:08.519
where if you just heard this on the radio and

00:35:08.519 --> 00:35:11.000
you heard that voice and you're like okay okay

00:35:11.000 --> 00:35:13.579
cool cool cool and then you see the video for

00:35:13.579 --> 00:35:17.900
the first time you're like oh pale ginger is

00:35:17.900 --> 00:35:20.940
singing this one cool no problem whatsoever didn't

00:35:20.940 --> 00:35:26.090
expect that at all But it is. This song has reclaimed

00:35:26.090 --> 00:35:29.030
its greatness, and everyone is now at that point

00:35:29.030 --> 00:35:32.849
of they appreciate it. It's kind of like the

00:35:32.849 --> 00:35:35.610
William Shatner effect, where after, you know,

00:35:35.610 --> 00:35:37.429
for a section, William Shatner was just like,

00:35:37.510 --> 00:35:39.349
oh, come on, just don't Shatner all over the

00:35:39.349 --> 00:35:41.090
place. And now people are like, please, for the

00:35:41.090 --> 00:35:42.829
love of God, Shatner all over the place. It's

00:35:42.829 --> 00:35:46.489
fun as hell, and we appreciate it. I think Rick

00:35:46.489 --> 00:35:49.409
Astley getting on stage with the Foo Fighters,

00:35:49.429 --> 00:35:52.349
because that video is fun as hell. That moment.

00:35:52.829 --> 00:35:54.929
is literally the moment when Shatner appeared

00:35:54.929 --> 00:35:56.670
on Saturday Night Live and they did the Star

00:35:56.670 --> 00:35:59.750
Trek convention sketch. And he's like, have you

00:35:59.750 --> 00:36:02.070
ever kissed a girl? Because I don't think you

00:36:02.070 --> 00:36:05.610
have. And that moment allowed Shatner to reclaim

00:36:05.610 --> 00:36:09.190
the cheesiness of his acting and turn it into

00:36:09.190 --> 00:36:12.690
something different. I think now Rick Astley

00:36:12.690 --> 00:36:14.610
can sit there and laugh all the way to the bank

00:36:14.610 --> 00:36:17.289
because people have rediscovered that love. Completely

00:36:17.289 --> 00:36:20.150
agree. And I'll be sure to embed the Foo Fighters

00:36:20.150 --> 00:36:23.869
Rick Astley video. Over at the episode page on

00:36:23.869 --> 00:36:26.849
myweeklymixtape .com. But there you have it,

00:36:26.889 --> 00:36:30.489
folks. Side A of our ultimate 80s guilty pleasures

00:36:30.489 --> 00:36:33.190
mixtape, which kicked off with Bow Wow Wow's

00:36:33.190 --> 00:36:36.329
I Want Candy, Starship's We Built This City,

00:36:36.730 --> 00:36:39.369
Timbuk3's The Future is Bright, I Gotta Wear

00:36:39.369 --> 00:36:43.570
Shades, Escape Club's Wild Wild West, Corey Hart's

00:36:43.570 --> 00:36:46.969
Sunglasses at Night, Wang Chung's Everybody Have

00:36:46.969 --> 00:36:50.510
Fun Tonight, Tiffany's Could Have Been, Toto's

00:36:50.510 --> 00:36:54.090
Africa, Big countries in a big country, and Rick

00:36:54.090 --> 00:36:56.809
Astley's never going to give you up. Head over

00:36:56.809 --> 00:36:59.949
to myweeklymixtape .com to hear all the songs

00:36:59.949 --> 00:37:02.809
we've discussed in this mix through the playlist

00:37:02.809 --> 00:37:06.250
embedded on the episode page. Now, Jason, before

00:37:06.250 --> 00:37:09.210
we flip this mixtape over to Side B, why don't

00:37:09.210 --> 00:37:10.969
you catch everybody up on what's been happening

00:37:10.969 --> 00:37:13.469
over at It's Not That Bad, and there can only

00:37:13.469 --> 00:37:16.769
be one. Well, thank you so much. Hope you guys

00:37:16.769 --> 00:37:18.929
had fun with March on It's Not That Bad because

00:37:18.929 --> 00:37:21.429
we just finished up our Razzies month where we

00:37:21.429 --> 00:37:23.530
did our grading on a curve, looking at the worst

00:37:23.530 --> 00:37:26.510
movies of the year nominees for last year, as

00:37:26.510 --> 00:37:29.090
well as four straight Razzie themed episodes

00:37:29.090 --> 00:37:31.230
on Keep Watch Pass. Those episodes come out on

00:37:31.230 --> 00:37:33.110
Monday. What if you do like our Keep Watch Pass

00:37:33.110 --> 00:37:35.429
format? And of course, our It's Not That Bad

00:37:35.429 --> 00:37:38.489
comes out on Wednesdays where we not necessarily

00:37:38.489 --> 00:37:40.809
just look at films that have a bad rating, but

00:37:40.809 --> 00:37:42.989
sometimes it's more of a public service that

00:37:42.989 --> 00:37:45.400
you. Just listen to us talk about it. And so

00:37:45.400 --> 00:37:47.380
you don't have to watch it. So you're welcome.

00:37:48.039 --> 00:37:50.239
And then on there can only be one. You're going

00:37:50.239 --> 00:37:53.599
to get an episode every Tuesday. On opposite

00:37:53.599 --> 00:37:55.699
weeks, you're going to get an episode where we

00:37:55.699 --> 00:37:58.219
take a look at an artist's studio discography

00:37:58.219 --> 00:38:01.420
and go through album by album, pick only one

00:38:01.420 --> 00:38:04.340
song off of those albums. And on the opposite

00:38:04.340 --> 00:38:05.900
weeks, because it takes a while to go through

00:38:05.900 --> 00:38:08.500
a discography, we have Spin, Shuffle, Skip, where

00:38:08.500 --> 00:38:10.699
we go through one album and pick three songs.

00:38:10.900 --> 00:38:13.239
One that you would spin, one that you would shuffle,

00:38:13.400 --> 00:38:15.059
and one that you would definitely hit the skip

00:38:15.059 --> 00:38:17.480
button on. So that way you have episodes every

00:38:17.480 --> 00:38:20.260
week. Those always come out on Tuesdays, and

00:38:20.260 --> 00:38:22.719
they are available wherever you get your... podcast

00:38:22.719 --> 00:38:25.860
and trust me when i say brian there are a list

00:38:25.860 --> 00:38:28.780
of songs and artists and whatnot that we have

00:38:28.780 --> 00:38:33.199
to go through i now feel now that you've expressed

00:38:33.199 --> 00:38:36.059
your tiffany love that we may have to do a tiffany

00:38:36.059 --> 00:38:40.559
episode i am in i am all in on that and the thing

00:38:40.559 --> 00:38:44.519
is let me just say when i think of tiffany right

00:38:44.519 --> 00:38:49.039
now i'm 46 years old so when i say it now it

00:38:49.039 --> 00:38:53.519
comes across as creepy guy gawking over somebody

00:38:53.519 --> 00:38:57.480
i was 10 years old when this song came out so

00:38:57.480 --> 00:38:59.820
i want people to understand there was an innocence

00:38:59.820 --> 00:39:04.679
to my crush on tiffany and i was oh i've always

00:39:04.679 --> 00:39:06.539
said to my wife if i meet her i'm gonna tell

00:39:06.539 --> 00:39:08.960
her she was my first crush but i don't want it

00:39:08.960 --> 00:39:13.320
to come across as you were my first crush like

00:39:13.320 --> 00:39:16.699
there was a childhood innocence to it Every time

00:39:16.699 --> 00:39:19.239
I hear that music, it actually reminds me of

00:39:19.239 --> 00:39:21.159
when I was 10. And it's a different feeling.

00:39:21.360 --> 00:39:25.780
It was before life kicked in and everything was

00:39:25.780 --> 00:39:28.460
different. It seems so much simpler when you

00:39:28.460 --> 00:39:31.420
were 10 years old. Oh, when you think of the

00:39:31.420 --> 00:39:36.900
the 80s teenage first crush starter pack, Tiffany

00:39:36.900 --> 00:39:39.420
is definitely in there, probably along with the

00:39:39.420 --> 00:39:42.780
likes of Debbie Gibson and Alyssa Milano and

00:39:42.780 --> 00:39:46.840
Lita Ford. There you go. There you go. It is

00:39:46.840 --> 00:39:50.239
literally in the 80s first crush starter pack.

00:39:50.760 --> 00:39:53.900
Well, kicking off side B, I'm going to lean into

00:39:53.900 --> 00:39:57.460
the Lita Ford side of music, and we're going

00:39:57.460 --> 00:39:59.679
to go hard rock. I'm not including Lita Ford

00:39:59.679 --> 00:40:03.380
because, A, she doesn't belong here. She's duetted

00:40:03.380 --> 00:40:05.579
with Ozzy. That immediately discounts. There's

00:40:05.579 --> 00:40:08.480
zero guilt at all, and nobody's ever included

00:40:08.480 --> 00:40:11.690
her. on a guilty pleasure playlist because kiss

00:40:11.690 --> 00:40:14.269
me deadly and close my eyes forever. Just absolutely

00:40:14.269 --> 00:40:17.710
amazing tunes, but I'm going to go with a rock

00:40:17.710 --> 00:40:22.929
song that has been just destroyed over the years,

00:40:23.090 --> 00:40:26.469
just ridiculed to death. And I've never understood

00:40:26.469 --> 00:40:31.289
why both Rolling Stone and NME included this

00:40:31.289 --> 00:40:34.329
on their worst songs of the eighties lists. And

00:40:34.329 --> 00:40:39.639
I really disagree. It starts off their 1986 album

00:40:39.639 --> 00:40:42.099
of the same name. So it's an album opener, something

00:40:42.099 --> 00:40:44.340
I love. And being I'm opening the side, let's

00:40:44.340 --> 00:40:49.400
go with a big anthemic album opener. And let's

00:40:49.400 --> 00:40:52.400
have Europe's The Final Countdown. You already

00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:54.539
hear the synthesizer in the beginning, the...

00:40:54.539 --> 00:41:03.119
And then the... I mean, the rest of the song

00:41:03.119 --> 00:41:05.280
rocks. I think that's the part that everybody

00:41:05.280 --> 00:41:09.239
like clings on. And regardless, I still love

00:41:09.239 --> 00:41:13.280
it. It was 1986. Synthesizer was in rock. It

00:41:13.280 --> 00:41:16.360
was in hard rock. Get over it. I love this song.

00:41:16.480 --> 00:41:19.300
And it's a great side opener. Wasn't it Geico

00:41:19.300 --> 00:41:22.619
that did a commercial with Europe? Oh, yeah.

00:41:22.659 --> 00:41:25.519
In a way, bringing it back and celebrating it

00:41:25.519 --> 00:41:27.619
with a wink, wink, nudge, nudge. But at the end

00:41:27.619 --> 00:41:29.980
of the day, the song is still incredible. And

00:41:29.980 --> 00:41:32.179
Joey Tempest can still hit those notes. And Europe

00:41:32.179 --> 00:41:35.099
is still awesome. I just love this band. So,

00:41:35.119 --> 00:41:38.460
yeah, the final countdown. I'll admit you scooped

00:41:38.460 --> 00:41:40.480
me on the artist because I actually had Carrie

00:41:40.480 --> 00:41:43.980
on my list from Europe. There you go. Admittedly,

00:41:43.980 --> 00:41:46.440
yes, my wife's name is Carrie. It's spelled differently.

00:41:46.719 --> 00:41:48.920
It's spelled differently. Funny story, though.

00:41:49.119 --> 00:41:52.119
She didn't know that that song existed until

00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:55.360
I played it for her. Really? She had no clue

00:41:55.360 --> 00:41:58.860
that there was a Carrie song. Huh. Yeah. Again,

00:41:58.940 --> 00:42:01.059
this is another one of those songs that it got

00:42:01.059 --> 00:42:02.920
played everywhere. It still gets played everywhere.

00:42:02.980 --> 00:42:05.300
Every sports arena, you know, we got the two

00:42:05.300 --> 00:42:07.099
minute warning and it's going to play over the

00:42:07.099 --> 00:42:10.300
speaker is guaranteed. No question there. And

00:42:10.300 --> 00:42:13.320
again, it's just stuck around so long that, again,

00:42:13.440 --> 00:42:15.260
I think people just have Stockholm syndrome.

00:42:15.300 --> 00:42:19.260
But yes, that keyboard is much like the guitar

00:42:19.260 --> 00:42:22.119
lick in I Want Candy. I think we've got another

00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:26.059
side starter. that the lead instrument line is

00:42:26.059 --> 00:42:28.659
the lyric more so than the actual lyrics themselves.

00:42:29.739 --> 00:42:32.000
I know exactly where I'm going to go with this.

00:42:32.099 --> 00:42:34.780
And I'm going to go with another album opener

00:42:34.780 --> 00:42:41.800
because not only were songs off this album kind

00:42:41.800 --> 00:42:46.840
of panned. I get it. The entire band became a

00:42:46.840 --> 00:42:50.449
joke. Thanks to Beavis and Butthead. I'm going

00:42:50.449 --> 00:42:53.510
to go with the debut album and the lead off track

00:42:53.510 --> 00:42:56.730
from Winger. I'm going to go with Madelaine.

00:42:57.170 --> 00:43:01.349
Yes. Now, I get it. People are sitting there

00:43:01.349 --> 00:43:04.510
going, oh, you like Winger, don't you? Winger

00:43:04.510 --> 00:43:07.670
sucks. And if you don't say something like that

00:43:07.670 --> 00:43:09.690
in a Beavis and Butthead voice like that, you

00:43:09.690 --> 00:43:13.349
didn't live in the 90s. But the thing is, Winger

00:43:13.349 --> 00:43:18.099
are a fantastic. Agreed. Of the first two concerts

00:43:18.099 --> 00:43:20.659
that I ever saw, the first one my mother brought

00:43:20.659 --> 00:43:23.280
me to, it was Krista Berg's Man on the Line tour.

00:43:23.400 --> 00:43:26.760
So Krista Berg pre Lady in Red. So the good stuff.

00:43:27.119 --> 00:43:30.980
The second concert I saw by myself, skipped school,

00:43:31.320 --> 00:43:33.780
waited in line because I wanted to be right at

00:43:33.780 --> 00:43:36.980
the front. Kiss is Hot in the Shade tour with

00:43:36.980 --> 00:43:40.460
opening act Slaughter and Winger on their In

00:43:40.460 --> 00:43:43.760
the Heart of the Young album. That concert. And

00:43:43.760 --> 00:43:47.400
again. I'm a bassist. So to see a bassist also

00:43:47.400 --> 00:43:49.679
as the lead singer, and then you start to put

00:43:49.679 --> 00:43:53.420
two and two together because you watch old Alice

00:43:53.420 --> 00:43:55.619
Cooper live concert videos and you're like, hey,

00:43:55.639 --> 00:43:57.639
that's the guy from Winger. And you start to

00:43:57.639 --> 00:44:01.840
make the connections there. Kip Winger all of

00:44:01.840 --> 00:44:05.139
a sudden became like a role model for me as a

00:44:05.139 --> 00:44:07.739
bassist because he was also the front man. And

00:44:07.739 --> 00:44:11.599
you didn't see that very often. Winger is ridiculously

00:44:11.599 --> 00:44:17.559
underrated. became the butt of a joke undeservedly.

00:44:17.820 --> 00:44:20.440
They are an extremely talented band. And yes,

00:44:20.539 --> 00:44:24.880
I get it. The lyrics to 17, not their finest

00:44:24.880 --> 00:44:28.420
moment. Let's just leave it at that. But there

00:44:28.420 --> 00:44:30.500
are other songs that they've put out, Can't Get

00:44:30.500 --> 00:44:33.360
Enough, Under One Condition. They do a really

00:44:33.360 --> 00:44:36.300
good cover of Purple Haze on the self -titled

00:44:36.300 --> 00:44:39.019
Winger album. And then you have Pull, which was

00:44:39.019 --> 00:44:41.840
a much heavier release. They're still putting

00:44:41.840 --> 00:44:44.510
out... Really good music. And Kip Winger did

00:44:44.510 --> 00:44:46.750
some solo albums that kind of veer a little bit

00:44:46.750 --> 00:44:48.769
outside of hard rock. And they're all incredible,

00:44:48.989 --> 00:44:52.750
very talented artists. And I think the Beavis

00:44:52.750 --> 00:44:56.250
and Butthead joke is where they became the laughingstock

00:44:56.250 --> 00:45:00.090
undeservedly for the entire hair metal movement.

00:45:00.190 --> 00:45:03.369
They became kind of the poster child for it for

00:45:03.369 --> 00:45:07.320
some reason. And I. I'd say that sucks because

00:45:07.320 --> 00:45:09.880
they put out some great songs and Madelaine might

00:45:09.880 --> 00:45:12.260
be my favorite all -time winger tune. And again,

00:45:12.320 --> 00:45:16.119
album opener, so bravo on that. But I'm going

00:45:16.119 --> 00:45:19.199
to jump on something you said there. It's a tour

00:45:19.199 --> 00:45:22.780
you saw. Kiss Hot in the Shade. I'm immediately

00:45:22.780 --> 00:45:25.960
just going to follow up with Forever. Co -written

00:45:25.960 --> 00:45:29.900
by Michael Bolton. Kiss fans lost their frigging

00:45:29.900 --> 00:45:32.699
mind when this song came out. I remember so many

00:45:32.699 --> 00:45:36.039
of my friends who were big Kiss fans were furious

00:45:36.039 --> 00:45:39.340
that Paul Stanley co -wrote with Michael Bolton

00:45:39.340 --> 00:45:42.579
and went down the quote unquote AOR style for

00:45:42.579 --> 00:45:45.440
Kiss. I don't think a lot of people our age,

00:45:45.440 --> 00:45:47.940
at least at the time, knew that Michael Bolton,

00:45:48.079 --> 00:45:51.599
and I didn't know this, I only knew how was I

00:45:51.599 --> 00:45:53.679
supposed to live without you and all the songs

00:45:53.679 --> 00:45:56.320
he had on the radio at the time. I had no idea.

00:45:56.860 --> 00:45:59.880
that Everybody's Crazy, which was featured in

00:45:59.880 --> 00:46:02.059
the party scene in Rodney Dangerfield's Back

00:46:02.059 --> 00:46:06.199
to School, was a Michael Bolton song. Michael

00:46:06.199 --> 00:46:10.460
Bolton has a hard rock, quote unquote, AOR slash

00:46:10.460 --> 00:46:13.679
type album called Everybody's Crazy that came

00:46:13.679 --> 00:46:17.500
out in 1985, as well as a self -titled album

00:46:17.500 --> 00:46:21.019
that came out in 1983. And both of those albums

00:46:21.019 --> 00:46:23.639
are completely different than the album oriented

00:46:23.639 --> 00:46:26.920
rock that he did from that point on. I highly

00:46:26.920 --> 00:46:29.900
suggest giving both albums a listen because they

00:46:29.900 --> 00:46:34.000
will shock a lot of people. The guy has a great

00:46:34.000 --> 00:46:37.380
hard rock voice and he had a hard rock sensibility.

00:46:37.900 --> 00:46:41.079
I think Forever is a fantastic power ballad.

00:46:41.119 --> 00:46:44.860
It made one of our power ballad episodes. If

00:46:44.860 --> 00:46:47.380
you go back with our good friend, Sean Faust,

00:46:47.400 --> 00:46:50.309
we had the ultimate. Power ballads of the 80s,

00:46:50.309 --> 00:46:53.869
parentheses, and some 90s. So I would check out

00:46:53.869 --> 00:46:56.329
volume one and volume two. It's on one of those.

00:46:56.369 --> 00:46:58.010
I won't say where. I don't want to spoil it.

00:46:58.030 --> 00:47:00.369
Leave a little bit of suspense in the air. But

00:47:00.369 --> 00:47:04.769
Forever is a great power ballad. And I think

00:47:04.769 --> 00:47:08.409
people were just trying to be too macho to admit

00:47:08.409 --> 00:47:11.570
that Kiss wrote good ballads. I mean, I Still

00:47:11.570 --> 00:47:13.789
Love You from Creatures of the Night was amazing.

00:47:14.210 --> 00:47:18.550
I loved Reason to Live. From Crazy Nights, which

00:47:18.550 --> 00:47:21.429
I talked about with Desmond Child on his episode

00:47:21.429 --> 00:47:23.590
because he co -wrote that with Paul Stanley.

00:47:23.969 --> 00:47:26.170
So the fact that people were shocked that Kiss

00:47:26.170 --> 00:47:27.989
was doing ballads when their biggest hit ever

00:47:27.989 --> 00:47:33.889
was Beth. Hello. So, yeah, Kiss forever. I think

00:47:33.889 --> 00:47:37.190
they're just having flashbacks from Shandy. But

00:47:37.190 --> 00:47:41.139
I will say forever. Not only did you scoop me

00:47:41.139 --> 00:47:43.639
on the artist, I mean, I was actually going to

00:47:43.639 --> 00:47:45.900
go with probably Tears Are Falling off the Asylum

00:47:45.900 --> 00:47:51.940
album, but Bruce Kulik era Kiss is my kiss. This

00:47:51.940 --> 00:47:54.059
is when I really first started to get into them.

00:47:54.159 --> 00:47:58.159
So for me, getting into them in the 80s, and

00:47:58.159 --> 00:48:00.360
I still remember actually one of the first albums

00:48:00.360 --> 00:48:02.980
that I listened to because my mother had it on

00:48:02.980 --> 00:48:05.780
vinyl was Animal Eyes. Yes, I get that's not

00:48:05.780 --> 00:48:09.099
Bruce Kulik era. But it still led into the Bruce

00:48:09.099 --> 00:48:12.340
Kulik era. So that was my era of Kiss. And then

00:48:12.340 --> 00:48:15.199
you kind of work your way backwards. But I don't

00:48:15.199 --> 00:48:17.679
understand why people would take a look at a

00:48:17.679 --> 00:48:20.960
song like Forever. Any other artist puts that

00:48:20.960 --> 00:48:24.940
song out, regardless of whose name is in the

00:48:24.940 --> 00:48:28.420
writing credits. It's going to play so well.

00:48:28.519 --> 00:48:31.579
If Poison put that song out, it'd be one of their

00:48:31.579 --> 00:48:35.360
biggest songs. It actually was my only one when

00:48:35.360 --> 00:48:37.980
we did the Kiss episode, because this is also

00:48:37.980 --> 00:48:41.539
the first song I ever learned when I bought my

00:48:41.539 --> 00:48:45.340
first bass guitar, which I still have that first

00:48:45.340 --> 00:48:48.300
bass guitar, and I'm doing the math on it now,

00:48:48.380 --> 00:48:51.710
and that bass guitar is so old. and still held

00:48:51.710 --> 00:48:55.250
together by duct tape and stickers. So bear with

00:48:55.250 --> 00:48:57.110
me on it. But isn't that where the beauty lies

00:48:57.110 --> 00:48:59.949
in a bass like that? Oh, absolutely. Like that

00:48:59.949 --> 00:49:04.750
bass saw so many shows and the screw on the strap

00:49:04.750 --> 00:49:07.070
bolt kept on falling out. So there were times

00:49:07.070 --> 00:49:08.750
that I'd have to drop down to my knees on stage.

00:49:08.909 --> 00:49:12.329
Like that bass is a beater like you wouldn't

00:49:12.329 --> 00:49:14.409
believe. But I remember going out and buying

00:49:14.409 --> 00:49:17.719
Guitar Magazine and that song was in it. And

00:49:17.719 --> 00:49:19.900
that was the first song I learned to play on

00:49:19.900 --> 00:49:23.559
that bass guitar was Forever. Well, now you get

00:49:23.559 --> 00:49:26.860
to follow this up, Gene Simmons, with track four.

00:49:27.559 --> 00:49:29.719
Well, I know exactly where I'm going to go. And

00:49:29.719 --> 00:49:32.800
I'm going to go kind of in that same vein with

00:49:32.800 --> 00:49:36.760
a decent band with a lot of synth going on on

00:49:36.760 --> 00:49:39.340
their first album. But I'm going to go with an

00:49:39.340 --> 00:49:43.360
80s super group. bad english and i'm gonna go

00:49:43.360 --> 00:49:47.260
with their song possession oh okay now again

00:49:47.260 --> 00:49:50.699
when i see you smile was their big hit but to

00:49:50.699 --> 00:49:55.519
me possession is the best song on that album

00:49:55.519 --> 00:49:59.039
and again it's heavy keyboard laden and you had

00:49:59.039 --> 00:50:01.480
like a lot of talent in that band there's zero

00:50:01.480 --> 00:50:04.260
question that whatsoever there But that song,

00:50:04.400 --> 00:50:07.139
again, if you had someone do that song today

00:50:07.139 --> 00:50:10.500
and replace the keys with some strings, I guarantee

00:50:10.500 --> 00:50:13.219
you that song would still go over well. Oh, my

00:50:13.219 --> 00:50:16.659
God. We're talking Jonathan Cain, Neil Sean and

00:50:16.659 --> 00:50:20.840
Dean Castronovo from Journey. John, wait. I mean,

00:50:20.920 --> 00:50:25.019
I love that album. I love Journey. And there

00:50:25.019 --> 00:50:27.280
was a part of me that had Journey in my back

00:50:27.280 --> 00:50:29.440
pocket for Don't Stop Believing. But at the end

00:50:29.440 --> 00:50:33.139
of the day, I felt like. There are way too many

00:50:33.139 --> 00:50:35.739
people that love that song that I think ever

00:50:35.739 --> 00:50:38.420
felt guilty about it. I really, I don't believe

00:50:38.420 --> 00:50:40.639
that that was ever a guilty pleasure, even though

00:50:40.639 --> 00:50:43.920
some people have put it on their worst songs

00:50:43.920 --> 00:50:46.599
of the 80s list. I think it's more for the overplayed

00:50:46.599 --> 00:50:49.960
factor than it is being a bad song. And Bad English,

00:50:50.099 --> 00:50:52.460
I thought was great. I loved When I See You Smile.

00:50:52.860 --> 00:50:56.059
I'm actually very surprised you went with Possession.

00:50:56.119 --> 00:50:58.320
That was one of the singles that it didn't take

00:50:58.320 --> 00:51:02.030
off quite like When I See You Smile. And that's

00:51:02.030 --> 00:51:05.570
because it wasn't When I See You Smile 2, Electric

00:51:05.570 --> 00:51:08.289
Boogaloo. It's kind of like when Warren had Heaven,

00:51:08.489 --> 00:51:10.909
and that song was huge, right? And then, of course,

00:51:10.949 --> 00:51:12.789
off the same album, they put out Sometimes She

00:51:12.789 --> 00:51:15.329
Cries, which wasn't Heaven, but it was still

00:51:15.329 --> 00:51:17.530
a good enough song. Although I will admit the

00:51:17.530 --> 00:51:19.969
first time I ever saw Warren in any kind of form

00:51:19.969 --> 00:51:23.420
was performing, if I remember correctly. When

00:51:23.420 --> 00:51:25.940
American Gladiators was on TV, there was also

00:51:25.940 --> 00:51:28.659
a roller derby show that was on the same channel

00:51:28.659 --> 00:51:31.579
and aired before it that used to have performances

00:51:31.579 --> 00:51:35.559
on and warrant was actually on that show doing

00:51:35.559 --> 00:51:38.639
heaven. I still remember that show, but I cannot

00:51:38.639 --> 00:51:41.139
remember the title of that show. Is that weird?

00:51:41.380 --> 00:51:44.320
No, not at all. American Gladiators was just

00:51:44.320 --> 00:51:46.380
that big at the time. Well, I'm going to follow

00:51:46.380 --> 00:51:48.780
up your is that weird question with one of my

00:51:48.780 --> 00:51:52.260
own. I'm team Sometimes She Cries. I actually

00:51:52.260 --> 00:51:54.920
like that more than Heaven. And I love both songs.

00:51:55.159 --> 00:51:59.860
I have no qualms about power ballads. And I will

00:51:59.860 --> 00:52:02.239
say that Warrant is also on one of those two

00:52:02.239 --> 00:52:04.199
power ballad episodes. I won't say which one

00:52:04.199 --> 00:52:06.840
to leave some room for. And I won't say which

00:52:06.840 --> 00:52:09.739
song made it. But I am team Sometimes She Cries.

00:52:11.340 --> 00:52:15.099
Man. All right. I'm sticking with The Rock here.

00:52:15.659 --> 00:52:17.860
And I'm also going to go back to a guest that

00:52:17.860 --> 00:52:21.440
I had on the show back at episode 25. But I'm

00:52:21.440 --> 00:52:23.719
going to go back to 1983 and an album that was

00:52:23.719 --> 00:52:26.179
so divisive for fans. And we talked about this

00:52:26.179 --> 00:52:30.239
on Side A when Toto's Africa was a little bit

00:52:30.239 --> 00:52:34.039
of a pivot from Hold the Line. When Starship's

00:52:34.039 --> 00:52:36.400
We Built This City was a pivot from Jefferson

00:52:36.400 --> 00:52:40.360
Starship and Jefferson Airplane. I don't know

00:52:40.360 --> 00:52:44.559
of a musical pivot that really shocked fans.

00:52:45.530 --> 00:52:49.670
the way 1983's Kill Roy Was Here did for fans

00:52:49.670 --> 00:52:53.250
of Styx. And I am going to go with the opening

00:52:53.250 --> 00:52:58.110
track from that album, Domo Arigato, Mr. Roboto.

00:52:58.610 --> 00:53:01.809
On episode 25, Lawrence Gown, who's now the current

00:53:01.809 --> 00:53:04.750
lead singer of Styx, talks about the song's revival

00:53:04.750 --> 00:53:08.030
in the band's set lists after many years of even

00:53:08.030 --> 00:53:12.110
them not playing the song. To me, this was the

00:53:12.110 --> 00:53:15.030
song that introduced me to Styx. 1983, I was

00:53:15.030 --> 00:53:18.590
five to six years old. My parents got the cassette

00:53:18.590 --> 00:53:21.130
at the time of Kilroy Was Here. And that was

00:53:21.130 --> 00:53:24.369
the first song I heard. And my dad turned the

00:53:24.369 --> 00:53:26.989
speakers up really loud and the synth was swelling.

00:53:27.090 --> 00:53:30.050
And it was like Star Wars in music to me as a

00:53:30.050 --> 00:53:34.170
kid. And I just loved it. And it fits that rock

00:53:34.170 --> 00:53:35.849
side that we're kind of putting together here

00:53:35.849 --> 00:53:40.659
for Side B. So Styx, Mr. Roboto. I'm not going

00:53:40.659 --> 00:53:43.199
to lie. I love that you had Lawrence Gowan on

00:53:43.199 --> 00:53:46.880
your show. And I say that not just as a Canadian,

00:53:47.059 --> 00:53:49.659
because I said that as a Canadian, but I mean,

00:53:49.679 --> 00:53:53.519
songs like Strange Animal and Criminal Mind.

00:53:53.559 --> 00:53:57.820
Criminal Mind is, it's the song I wish Chris

00:53:57.820 --> 00:54:00.420
DeBerg wrote, but I'm so happy that Gowan wrote

00:54:00.420 --> 00:54:02.480
it because it was so good. But even a song like

00:54:02.480 --> 00:54:05.739
Moonlight Desires, like Lawrence Gowan is a phenomenal

00:54:05.739 --> 00:54:08.500
songwriter. And if you go back and listen to

00:54:08.500 --> 00:54:12.590
his 80s, selection like his discography they

00:54:12.590 --> 00:54:18.590
were it was so good so good and i love the fact

00:54:18.590 --> 00:54:20.469
that he's still out there and touring and performing

00:54:20.469 --> 00:54:23.329
and they're actually doing some gowan songs they

00:54:23.329 --> 00:54:25.269
are stick set list and i think that's phenomenal

00:54:25.269 --> 00:54:29.869
absolutely deservedly so deservedly so and i

00:54:29.869 --> 00:54:32.170
know exactly where i'm going with this really

00:54:32.170 --> 00:54:36.820
it's a no -brainer huh i was no -brainer Because

00:54:36.820 --> 00:54:42.039
she blinded me with science. You could put these

00:54:42.039 --> 00:54:46.980
two on any best of the 80s CDs and it would feel

00:54:46.980 --> 00:54:49.780
like it was on the same album. Thomas Dolby.

00:54:50.219 --> 00:54:55.599
I mean, honestly, honestly, if someone says science,

00:54:55.679 --> 00:54:59.059
just even the word science, tell me you don't

00:54:59.059 --> 00:55:01.940
want to respond with science with the finger

00:55:01.940 --> 00:55:06.750
up in the air and the. The video was so corny.

00:55:06.809 --> 00:55:11.449
The song is so corny, but yet it fits so perfectly

00:55:11.449 --> 00:55:14.090
in this pocket. And people will still be like,

00:55:14.110 --> 00:55:16.050
yes, by the time the end of the song is there,

00:55:16.110 --> 00:55:19.949
you're screaming at the right of science. Guaranteed.

00:55:21.269 --> 00:55:24.690
So I guess my only follow up is, were you blinded

00:55:24.690 --> 00:55:28.329
by science? Oh, I know that was bad. Sorry. The

00:55:28.329 --> 00:55:30.389
only thing that blinded me with science and it

00:55:30.389 --> 00:55:31.929
wasn't the experiments because I didn't blow

00:55:31.929 --> 00:55:35.019
anything up, allegedly. Just take a look at my

00:55:35.019 --> 00:55:36.960
marks and you'll see why I'm not a scientist.

00:55:37.619 --> 00:55:42.400
There you go. This song was also the pilot theme

00:55:42.400 --> 00:55:44.559
song to the Big Bang Theory before they switched

00:55:44.559 --> 00:55:46.699
it to the theme by the Barenaked Ladies. And

00:55:46.699 --> 00:55:48.500
I don't think a lot of people even remember that.

00:55:48.599 --> 00:55:51.840
But I love this song. I don't care that it was

00:55:51.840 --> 00:55:55.820
cheesy. The 80s gave us great science songs.

00:55:55.980 --> 00:55:58.659
Between this and Weird Science, I mean, there's

00:55:58.659 --> 00:56:02.239
a perfect 80s science single for you. But I'm

00:56:02.239 --> 00:56:05.179
not going to use that as my follow up. I'm going

00:56:05.179 --> 00:56:08.360
to follow up with a song that you might actually

00:56:08.360 --> 00:56:12.559
turn off your camera, log off this and defriend

00:56:12.559 --> 00:56:16.440
me on all the social medias, as do everybody

00:56:16.440 --> 00:56:18.639
listening. My plays might all of a sudden just

00:56:18.639 --> 00:56:21.780
come to a screeching halt and everybody unsubscribes

00:56:21.780 --> 00:56:26.440
at once. But hear me out, please. This song features

00:56:26.440 --> 00:56:31.590
Glenn Hughes and Pat Thrall to very. Very talented

00:56:31.590 --> 00:56:35.889
musicians. And Glenn Hughes sings the chorus

00:56:35.889 --> 00:56:40.250
of the song. And both of them appear in the video.

00:56:40.809 --> 00:56:44.449
Dressed like pagan suspects being interrogated.

00:56:44.630 --> 00:56:49.170
And that video was the theme song to a movie

00:56:49.170 --> 00:56:53.210
that could very easily be a not that bad episode.

00:56:54.610 --> 00:56:59.309
1987's Dragnet. The song. Dan Aykroyd and Tom

00:56:59.309 --> 00:57:03.769
Hanks, City of Crime. Tom Hanks is doing his

00:57:03.769 --> 00:57:07.250
best Beastie Boys impression throughout. He's

00:57:07.250 --> 00:57:10.269
basically just screaming the words of the song

00:57:10.269 --> 00:57:13.849
because in the 80s, Tom Hanks was very, that

00:57:13.849 --> 00:57:16.590
was his kind of character and his persona. And

00:57:16.590 --> 00:57:19.769
Dan Aykroyd was playing the calm, straight Agent

00:57:19.769 --> 00:57:24.969
Friday. And the music video, fun fact, was directed

00:57:24.969 --> 00:57:29.320
by Paula Abdul. who a year later would explode

00:57:29.320 --> 00:57:32.739
onto the music scene with many music videos and

00:57:32.739 --> 00:57:35.679
the incredible Forever Your Girl album. But I

00:57:35.679 --> 00:57:38.400
heard this song for the first time. I saw the

00:57:38.400 --> 00:57:41.340
video on MTV. I begged my parents to take me

00:57:41.340 --> 00:57:44.500
to see the movie. The movie was not really, it

00:57:44.500 --> 00:57:47.199
went over my head at 10, 11 years old, but I

00:57:47.199 --> 00:57:50.360
still went out and got the soundtrack. I have

00:57:50.360 --> 00:57:54.420
the soundtrack to this day on CD. Unapologetically,

00:57:54.460 --> 00:57:59.610
I love. This song, it's Dan Aykroyd and Tom Hanks

00:57:59.610 --> 00:58:02.969
rapping. It did not get a lot of love, but it's

00:58:02.969 --> 00:58:05.750
one of those songs that I don't know why. As

00:58:05.750 --> 00:58:07.690
soon as we said we're doing a guilty pleasures

00:58:07.690 --> 00:58:10.670
of the 80s, this was the first song on my list.

00:58:10.750 --> 00:58:14.489
So I apologize to everybody who's no longer a

00:58:14.489 --> 00:58:17.469
fan, but I'm sure out there, there's at least

00:58:17.469 --> 00:58:21.460
three people. who are like, yes, oh my God, somebody

00:58:21.460 --> 00:58:24.579
else knows this song but me. If that's you, email

00:58:24.579 --> 00:58:28.239
me at myweeklymixtape at gmail .com and let me

00:58:28.239 --> 00:58:30.519
know that I'm not alone here. Dan Aykroyd and

00:58:30.519 --> 00:58:34.539
Tom Hanks, City of Crime. Guilty pleasure? Well,

00:58:34.599 --> 00:58:37.980
that's just the facts. Sorry, sorry. Bad, bad

00:58:37.980 --> 00:58:42.019
dad jokes. I find it funny because as I was putting

00:58:42.019 --> 00:58:44.840
my list together, I realized there were a number

00:58:44.840 --> 00:58:50.670
of actors. That put out singles. And I know,

00:58:50.710 --> 00:58:54.570
I know, at some point, someone's going to pitch

00:58:54.570 --> 00:58:58.489
to you the ultimate mixtape of actors who put

00:58:58.489 --> 00:59:00.989
out singles. And if they don't, I'll just put

00:59:00.989 --> 00:59:04.730
my hand up and just volunteer for that one. Yes,

00:59:04.889 --> 00:59:06.710
Dragnet is definitely one of those films that

00:59:06.710 --> 00:59:09.050
I would absolutely love to do an episode on.

00:59:09.150 --> 00:59:12.389
I'm pretty darn skippy it qualifies. Oh, it does.

00:59:12.510 --> 00:59:17.210
It's 50 % on the Tomatometer. And only 41 % on

00:59:17.210 --> 00:59:20.210
the audience score. That doesn't happen often

00:59:20.210 --> 00:59:23.269
where the audience score is less. That is a crime

00:59:23.269 --> 00:59:27.949
and a travesty all in one. The Virgin Connie

00:59:27.949 --> 00:59:30.489
Swale deserves so much better than this. Yes.

00:59:33.030 --> 00:59:36.449
Okay. I know exactly where I'm going. I don't

00:59:36.449 --> 00:59:38.769
know how I know this, but I'm going to go exactly

00:59:38.769 --> 00:59:42.630
here. I'm going to stay in this actors with singles

00:59:42.630 --> 00:59:46.739
out. And probably not the one you think of, because

00:59:46.739 --> 00:59:49.079
I know there was one mentioned in the earlier

00:59:49.079 --> 00:59:50.880
shout outs, but I'm going to go in a completely

00:59:50.880 --> 00:59:54.460
and utterly different direction. And it's a partnership

00:59:54.460 --> 00:59:57.239
that actually led to an episode on. It's not

00:59:57.239 --> 00:59:59.980
that bad that we did. I'll let you guess. Oh,

01:00:00.039 --> 01:00:04.059
crap. It's a partnership. I was going to go with

01:00:04.059 --> 01:00:08.750
Bruce Willis with his 80s album. yep i'm right

01:00:08.750 --> 01:00:13.510
okay off of his return of bruno album i'm gonna

01:00:13.510 --> 01:00:16.469
go with his cover of the staples singer's song

01:00:16.469 --> 01:00:19.070
respect yourself so let me let me explain the

01:00:19.070 --> 01:00:22.630
partnership here so the album was produced by

01:00:22.630 --> 01:00:25.789
robert craft and no not that robert craft if

01:00:25.789 --> 01:00:29.710
you're a patriots fan it's not him okay yes but

01:00:29.710 --> 01:00:37.260
robert craft then produced hudson hawk Starring

01:00:37.260 --> 01:00:42.179
Bruce Willis. And that movie is an absolute goofy,

01:00:42.360 --> 01:00:47.019
fun, hot mess. But the friendship between Bruce

01:00:47.019 --> 01:00:49.699
Willis' character and Danny Aiello's character

01:00:49.699 --> 01:00:51.920
in this is apparently based on the friendship

01:00:51.920 --> 01:00:54.780
between Robert Kraft and Bruce Willis. So the

01:00:54.780 --> 01:00:57.099
fact that Bruce Willis sounds like he's having

01:00:57.099 --> 01:01:00.639
a ton of fun on this album. makes total sense

01:01:00.639 --> 01:01:04.199
when you then go and watch hudson hawk so i kind

01:01:04.199 --> 01:01:08.039
of enjoy that and it's just goofy fun that someone

01:01:08.039 --> 01:01:10.539
who at the time was big for being in moonlighting

01:01:10.539 --> 01:01:14.820
puts out a covers album and it's surprisingly

01:01:14.820 --> 01:01:18.340
not bad at all yeah there's not like there's

01:01:18.340 --> 01:01:21.239
people that obviously Rag on it just for the

01:01:21.239 --> 01:01:23.480
sake of doing so. And I think that has to do

01:01:23.480 --> 01:01:25.679
with the novelty factor of it all. I mean, it

01:01:25.679 --> 01:01:29.280
is an actor putting out an album. So I get that

01:01:29.280 --> 01:01:33.039
part of it. It's kind of like when the WWE wrestlers

01:01:33.039 --> 01:01:36.519
sang on that pile driver cassette in the 80s.

01:01:36.519 --> 01:01:38.780
It's kind of along that line. Like, that's not

01:01:38.780 --> 01:01:40.880
really their role. But what the hell? They're

01:01:40.880 --> 01:01:43.400
going to do it anyway. I mean, this was rhythm

01:01:43.400 --> 01:01:45.739
and blues and soul. We're talking he's covering

01:01:45.739 --> 01:01:49.079
Booker T. Jones, The Temptations. This was a

01:01:49.079 --> 01:01:52.119
fun album. You don't need to overthink it sometimes.

01:01:53.039 --> 01:01:56.179
Was it capitalizing on his popularity at the

01:01:56.179 --> 01:02:00.380
time? Sure. But at the same token, you had not

01:02:00.380 --> 01:02:03.280
too many years earlier, the Blues Brothers turned

01:02:03.280 --> 01:02:06.219
it into a feature length film and a recording

01:02:06.219 --> 01:02:11.840
career. So I don't hate it. And yeah, God, I'm

01:02:11.840 --> 01:02:13.940
stalling here because I'm trying to think of

01:02:13.940 --> 01:02:16.400
how do I follow that up? Because we each only

01:02:16.400 --> 01:02:19.389
have one song left. And I'm going through my

01:02:19.389 --> 01:02:23.170
list and there's not a lot that really fits after

01:02:23.170 --> 01:02:27.429
Bruce Willis. All right, I'm just going to go

01:02:27.429 --> 01:02:30.849
with one that Ranker included as one of the worst

01:02:30.849 --> 01:02:36.349
songs of the 80s. And certainly if it's not thought

01:02:36.349 --> 01:02:39.050
of by a lot of people as one of the worst songs

01:02:39.050 --> 01:02:41.789
of the 80s, I will say it will likely be seen

01:02:41.789 --> 01:02:45.150
as one of the most controversial songs of the

01:02:45.150 --> 01:02:49.309
1980s, if not the entire album. And I am going

01:02:49.309 --> 01:02:53.510
to go back to 1989, right to the end. And we

01:02:53.510 --> 01:02:55.530
are going to go with the controversial album,

01:02:55.849 --> 01:02:58.250
Girl You Know It's True. And I'm going to go

01:02:58.250 --> 01:03:01.389
with Milli Vanilli's Baby Don't Forget My Number.

01:03:01.969 --> 01:03:04.309
That was the one song on that album where I'm

01:03:04.309 --> 01:03:07.130
like, I'm not really big into this Milli Vanilli

01:03:07.130 --> 01:03:08.449
thing because they were everywhere. They had

01:03:08.449 --> 01:03:10.010
just number one hit after number one hit after

01:03:10.010 --> 01:03:13.090
number one hit. This one, I was like, oh, I kind

01:03:13.090 --> 01:03:14.690
of like this. And I got the cassette single.

01:03:14.909 --> 01:03:17.150
And I like this song. And I've always liked this

01:03:17.150 --> 01:03:20.030
song. Mind you, when the videos came on, I was

01:03:20.030 --> 01:03:21.750
always like, nah, and I switched the channel

01:03:21.750 --> 01:03:24.349
because I didn't care so much about the dance

01:03:24.349 --> 01:03:27.090
music at the time. But this song stuck out to

01:03:27.090 --> 01:03:29.449
me. And then when everything unfolded with the

01:03:29.449 --> 01:03:34.269
lip sync drama and Milli Vanilli, I think back

01:03:34.269 --> 01:03:36.610
at that and I still didn't hate the song because

01:03:36.610 --> 01:03:38.550
at the end of the day, I really didn't care who

01:03:38.550 --> 01:03:41.989
was singing it. I didn't feel duped because I

01:03:41.989 --> 01:03:46.250
never paid to see them live or like cared what

01:03:46.250 --> 01:03:48.980
they looked like. I just liked the song because

01:03:48.980 --> 01:03:50.739
it was a good song. I don't care who was singing

01:03:50.739 --> 01:03:52.860
it. So when they said, oh, somebody else was

01:03:52.860 --> 01:03:55.360
actually singing on the tape, I'm like, I don't

01:03:55.360 --> 01:03:58.519
care. I still like the song. So it's definitely

01:03:58.519 --> 01:04:02.199
on every list of the most controversial songs

01:04:02.199 --> 01:04:06.320
of all time or albums or events in music history.

01:04:06.559 --> 01:04:09.579
But to me, when that whole lip syncing thing

01:04:09.579 --> 01:04:12.440
came down, it went from being these number one

01:04:12.440 --> 01:04:15.699
hits into a joke that you can only say was a

01:04:15.699 --> 01:04:18.420
guilty pleasure. But at the end of the day, no

01:04:18.420 --> 01:04:21.079
matter who was actually singing on the song,

01:04:21.320 --> 01:04:25.000
it was still a good song sang by a very good

01:04:25.000 --> 01:04:27.659
singer that the label was just dumb enough not

01:04:27.659 --> 01:04:30.320
to want to put up front and center, which blues

01:04:30.320 --> 01:04:33.119
traveler then mimicked and mocked in the runaround

01:04:33.119 --> 01:04:35.920
video where John Popper's backstage performing

01:04:35.920 --> 01:04:38.699
with the other band up in front, kind of that

01:04:38.699 --> 01:04:41.519
whole situation. But baby, don't forget my number.

01:04:41.619 --> 01:04:44.820
Total 180 from Europe's the final countdown here.

01:04:45.449 --> 01:04:47.829
But I feel like we're closing this mixtape out

01:04:47.829 --> 01:04:49.750
and I'm leading us in to be able to let side

01:04:49.750 --> 01:04:53.090
B flip back into Bow Wow Wow's I Want Candy on

01:04:53.090 --> 01:04:56.989
side A. And yeah, we had to talk Milli Vanilli

01:04:56.989 --> 01:04:59.949
tonight. We had to. Oh, you absolutely had to.

01:04:59.969 --> 01:05:03.010
Like, if you did something 80s guilty pleasure

01:05:03.010 --> 01:05:05.510
and the words Millie and Vanille in that order

01:05:05.510 --> 01:05:08.090
didn't come out of one of our mouths, then we

01:05:08.090 --> 01:05:11.909
have failed the assignment, much like my science

01:05:11.909 --> 01:05:15.110
score would blind anybody. So I have to ask then,

01:05:15.210 --> 01:05:18.150
which Millie Vanille song did you have in your

01:05:18.150 --> 01:05:21.190
bank? Oh, I had Girl, You Know It's True. Okay.

01:05:21.250 --> 01:05:23.230
Okay. You went with the title track. All right.

01:05:23.269 --> 01:05:29.639
Well, absolutely. But. Up to this point, we have

01:05:29.639 --> 01:05:32.559
failed. I feel like we've failed your listeners.

01:05:33.159 --> 01:05:38.559
Oh, no. Should we start all over? No. That'll

01:05:38.559 --> 01:05:40.519
be volume two. That'll be volume two. But we

01:05:40.519 --> 01:05:43.679
have failed your listeners. Because at no point

01:05:43.679 --> 01:05:48.340
have we said the words, rock me Amadeus. Falco.

01:05:48.920 --> 01:05:53.659
Oh, Falco. And I remember having this vinyl.

01:05:54.400 --> 01:05:57.179
Now, admittedly, Rock Me Amadeus was the big

01:05:57.179 --> 01:05:59.139
song and the song that I listened to over and

01:05:59.139 --> 01:06:01.340
over and over again. And yes, this is the song

01:06:01.340 --> 01:06:04.239
I'm putting on this cassette. For personal preference,

01:06:04.739 --> 01:06:09.820
I prefer Genie off of this because I had no idea

01:06:09.820 --> 01:06:11.840
what they were saying during the verses whatsoever.

01:06:11.920 --> 01:06:16.360
And I'm just like, okay, I can picture in my

01:06:16.360 --> 01:06:18.360
head what I think they're saying, but at points

01:06:18.360 --> 01:06:20.760
it sounds really, really nasty and guttural.

01:06:21.550 --> 01:06:24.210
kind of and then all of a sudden the the english

01:06:24.210 --> 01:06:26.929
language chorus comes up and you start singing

01:06:26.929 --> 01:06:28.869
along and then the verse comes up and you start

01:06:28.869 --> 01:06:30.150
mumbling because you have no idea what the hell

01:06:30.150 --> 01:06:33.530
they're saying but rock me amadeus again very

01:06:33.530 --> 01:06:36.849
much one of those songs that was just stupid

01:06:36.849 --> 01:06:40.250
fun you had no idea what the song was really

01:06:40.250 --> 01:06:44.469
about but it played over and over and over again

01:06:44.469 --> 01:06:47.610
and everyone like everyone on the schoolyard

01:06:47.610 --> 01:06:54.000
you got the work In the lexicon. Absolutely.

01:06:55.239 --> 01:06:57.420
I'm just glad it wasn't in the actual movie,

01:06:57.519 --> 01:07:01.860
Amadeus. Look, I love this song. I had that on

01:07:01.860 --> 01:07:04.440
my list. Totally scooped me. And I got to give

01:07:04.440 --> 01:07:06.480
a shout out to the Bloodhound Gang. Yes, the

01:07:06.480 --> 01:07:09.900
Bloodhound Gang in 1999 on the Hooray for Boobies

01:07:09.900 --> 01:07:12.880
album. This was a hit album. This was the album

01:07:12.880 --> 01:07:15.699
with the bad touch on it. So they had a song

01:07:15.699 --> 01:07:18.690
called Mope. And it was basically a song that

01:07:18.690 --> 01:07:20.889
was dedicated to Falco with the sample of Rock

01:07:20.889 --> 01:07:23.929
Me Amadeus in it. I love this song. I love the

01:07:23.929 --> 01:07:26.869
original. I also had Tacos Putting on the Ritz,

01:07:26.949 --> 01:07:30.130
which kind of came from that same vein as Rock

01:07:30.130 --> 01:07:32.610
Me Amadeus. Those two go really well back to

01:07:32.610 --> 01:07:35.510
back together. But what a way to end Side B,

01:07:35.750 --> 01:07:38.809
which kicked off with Europe's The Final Countdown,

01:07:39.090 --> 01:07:43.269
Winger's Madelaine, Kisses Forever, Bad English's

01:07:43.269 --> 01:07:47.309
Possession, Sticks' Mr. Roboto. Thomas Dolby's

01:07:47.309 --> 01:07:49.909
She Blinded Me With Science, Dan Aykroyd and

01:07:49.909 --> 01:07:53.250
Tom Hanks' City of Crime, Bruce Willis' Respect

01:07:53.250 --> 01:07:56.110
Yourself, Milli Vanilli's Baby Don't Forget My

01:07:56.110 --> 01:08:00.269
Number, and Falco's Rock Me Amadeus. Head over

01:08:00.269 --> 01:08:03.070
to myweeklymixtape .com to hear all the songs

01:08:03.070 --> 01:08:05.969
we've discussed in this mix through the playlist

01:08:05.969 --> 01:08:09.429
embedded on the episode page. Now, Jason, I do

01:08:09.429 --> 01:08:11.670
want to apologize to the Patreon mixtapers. We

01:08:11.670 --> 01:08:14.449
did not get to the songs they included. However...

01:08:15.019 --> 01:08:17.479
I feel like this has volume two written all over

01:08:17.479 --> 01:08:20.720
it. So stay tuned because there's a lot more

01:08:20.720 --> 01:08:23.340
we have yet to scratch the surface here. Oh,

01:08:23.359 --> 01:08:26.899
I have a list of songs here where I was hoping

01:08:26.899 --> 01:08:28.960
there were ones where I was just like, please,

01:08:29.039 --> 01:08:31.180
please go down this road so I can throw this

01:08:31.180 --> 01:08:34.159
song in. We didn't get to there, but I got back

01:08:34.159 --> 01:08:37.119
up for a volume two. And I'm sure that if K -Tel

01:08:37.119 --> 01:08:39.720
Records ever decided to have a resurgence, they

01:08:39.720 --> 01:08:41.600
should be calling us up right now for the rights

01:08:41.600 --> 01:08:46.449
to this mixtape. Amen. 100%. Jason, why don't

01:08:46.449 --> 01:08:48.229
you remind listeners where they can connect with

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