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Hey, it's Coco from Winona Fighter, and you're

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listening to My Weekly Mixtape with Brian Colburn.

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Welcome to My Weekly Mixtape, a podcast that

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takes the classic mixtape approach to building

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a modern playlist. I'm your host, Brian Colburn.

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Joining me tonight as guest curator is Coco Kinnan,

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lead singer and guitarist for Nashville -based

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punk group Winona Fighter. Coco, thank you so

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much for joining me. Yeah, thanks for having

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me. Well, since it's your first time on the program,

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I get to start by asking you my first Timers

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question, which is, what does the word mixtape

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mean to you? Oh man, when I think of mixtape,

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I remember when I have two older siblings, and

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I remember when they both got their licenses.

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I burn them a whole book of CDs. And so when

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I think mixtape, I think of downloading on LimeWire,

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burning them on CDs and just giving them to your

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friends, family and just like stuff that I think

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that they'll like or like helping them discover

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new stuff. That's what I love about a mixtape

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is I feel like it's always someone's approach

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to what someone else might like. To me, it is

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the perfect algorithm because as much as Spotify

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and Apple Music think they know me as a person,

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if someone gives me a mixtape saying, here's

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some songs I think you'll like, they know who

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I am. And I feel like that just means so much

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more than an algorithm choosing them. Yeah, I

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agree with that. Well, tonight we're going to

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be talking about 90s punk rock. And a few months

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back on episode 44, I was lucky enough to have

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Kay Hanley, lead singer for Letters to Cleo on

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the show. And we talked at the beginning of that

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episode about the indie music scene in Boston,

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which might be familiar to you because that is

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where you cut your musical teeth. Am I correct?

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Yes, that's true. Grew up as a drummer, and I

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was playing drums in punk rock bands in the Boston

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area. Well, I had a chance to catch your set

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this past week at the Starland Ballroom in Sayreville,

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New Jersey, where you opened for Armor for Sleep,

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Finch, and Bayside. And I just have to say, you

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guys truly commanded the room. You've also played

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the 2024 edition of The Shiprocked Cruise, which

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my friends over at The Itch Rock Radio and Podcast

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were able to catch that set. And you also played

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Bonnaroo 2023 and several showcases at the 2024

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South by Southwest Music Festival in Austin,

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Texas. So I think it's safe to say that Winona

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Fighter's music has reached a whole new audience

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over the last year. Yeah, I think you could say

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that. Definitely, it's been an eclectic run of

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shows for us recently. And definitely shows that

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aren't strictly punk rock, which has been just

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awesome for us. You know, like getting to play

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the Bonnaroos or like opening for bands like

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we opened for Incubus and The Offspring. It's

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definitely putting us in front of people that

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we wouldn't normally be put in front of. Now,

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when you guys play a show opening for a band

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that is, let's say, an incubus where they're

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not punk rock, do you find a harder time connecting

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with an audience? Whereas on a show like Finch

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and Bayside, punk rock is right in that wheelhouse.

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I think the thing with the incubus shows, everyone

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grew up listening to punk rock. I think that's

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what helps us is we get. A lot of people who

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are like, I remember listening to that stuff

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when I was in high school. So I think we definitely

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tug on the nostalgic heartstrings with those

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audiences. And I think it creates such like a

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great dynamic. So then it's like, you know, we

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come in blasting, full energy, punk, yelling.

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And then Incubus comes on, full blasting, rock,

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just melodic, beautiful. I think it's a cool

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contrast and I think it helps fill people's cups

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a little more. Whereas like with the Bayside

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shows, it's still a similar thing where it's

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like brings me back to when I first discovered

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Bayside or XYZ. I want to bring up something

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you did at the show to touch on those nostalgia

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strings, which you specifically said on stage.

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You guys performed a cover of Blur's song, too.

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And to me, that performance truly cemented the

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fact that I picked the perfect guest for this

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evening. With that being said, what were you

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looking for in the songs that you're bringing

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to the mixtape this evening? I was looking for.

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Well, one of the reasons we cover Song 2 and

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then another cover we do is Self -Esteem by The

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Offspring. We're a younger band. We're a newer

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band. And we want to be able to engage all audiences.

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And especially when we know we're playing to

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a little bit of an older fan base. And by older,

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I mean not teenagers. You know? Yes. It's so

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fun to engage them by pulling out those songs

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that were part of our childhood. or teenage years

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and just kind of bringing everyone back. And

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so that's what I kind of looked at when making

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my playlist tonight. I was like, what makes me

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feel like I'm driving down the highway at a fine

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speed and just screaming in the car with my friends?

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Because I think that's what 90s pop punk punk

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rock had to offer was a lot of just great punk

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songs with a lot of pop sensibility. And I love

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where you're going with that, because for me,

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the 90s punk spectrum is in a way similar to

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the 2000s as the word punk, quote unquote, covers

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such a huge spectrum. You think about the straight

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ahead punk bands. You think about your pop punk.

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And in the 90s, we had ska punk, as well as that

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blurring of lines with. hardcore bands, and even

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indie alternative artists that borrowed some

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of the punk sensibilities and brought them to

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a mainstream audience while not necessarily being

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a punk artist. So my goal for tonight was to

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try to cover as much of this spectrum as possible

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to give a good representation of what the 90s

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was in punk music. Yeah, I was making the playlist

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and I was like, Some of these might ruffle some

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feathers because a lot of people would probably

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say, oh, that's not pop punk or why would you

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call that song pop? You know, people would get

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maybe a little up in arms, but it's because it's

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for me like pop punk is punk music that everyone

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loves. You know, like not everyone listens to

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no effects, but anything off of punk and drum

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wick is singable. And will get stuck in anyone's

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head, even if you're not a fan of the band. So

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that, to me, is what pop punk is. Well, let's

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get down to business. Tonight, as I mentioned

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at the top of the show, Coco and I will be curating

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a 90s punk rock playlist. And we're going to

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use the old cassette deck approach. Coco, as

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my special guest, will begin side A with her

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first song choice, and then I'll add a song that

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I feel best follows up that choice. We'll then

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flip -flop choosing songs until we've mapped

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out 10 songs for side A. We'll then give our

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mixtape a proverbial flip, and we'll map out

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side B. Only this time, I'll kick things off

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with Coco choosing second. Our overall goal for

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the episode is to craft the best 90s punk rock

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mixtape possible. At the end of the show, you

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can take our conversation to the next level by

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visiting the episode page at myweeklymixtape

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.com to give our final mixtape a listen. via

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the embedded playlist. And if you like what you're

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hearing on the show, you can help me out by either

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telling a friend, leaving the show a five -star

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review wherever you're tuning in, or becoming

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a Patreon mixtaper at patreon .com forward slash

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episodes of the show, become a future guest,

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and so much more. And before we dive into our

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picks, a few of the Patreon mixtapers chimed

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in with the songs they would use to kick off

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a 90s punk rock mixtape with And I don't think

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they disappointed. Seeker chimed in with something

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from Australia, that being Spider Bait's Buy

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Me a Pony, which he describes as a searing indictment

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on the music industry in all 105 seconds of rock.

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Sean Goff chimed in with Gob's cover of the Rolling

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Stones' Paint It Black. Tom Hutchinson chimed

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in with NoFX, like you had mentioned before.

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He went with Linoleum, Lagwagon's Violins, and

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Therapy's Nowhere. Ben from the Too Vague podcast

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chimed in with Chicago's DIY band, The Reverse,

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in their track Warning Attention Announcement.

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Chad LaMassa chimed in with Babes in Toyland's

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Sweet 69. And last but not least, brand new Patreon

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mixtaper Jen Fink chimed in with L7's Shit List,

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though she could have went with any of their

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hits. Jen, first off, welcome to the Patreon

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mixtaper family. I'm glad to have you on board

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and I'm looking forward to talking music with

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you over on the forums. Love that pick. Once

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again, if you'd like to join the Patreon mixtaper

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family and chime in on future episodes, you could

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do so at patreon .com forward slash my weekly

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mixtape. With that, Coco, I'm officially pressing

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the record button on our mixtape and turning

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the mic over to you. What song did you choose

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to kick off our 90s punk rock playlist? Well,

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you mentioned it earlier. I'm going to kick it

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off with Song 2 by Blur. Nice. I chose this song

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because it is truly a personal favorite. And

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I think that it was written as a big F you to

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the music industry. And there's not really anything

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more punk rock than that than being signed to

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a label and pissing you off and you write the

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biggest hit in the world about it. Couldn't agree

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more with what you said there. And I do have

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to add that you guys did such an amazing cover

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of that track. I'm going to post a video of it

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over at myweeklymixtape .com on the episode page.

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So the mixtapers listening can be sure to check

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that one out. Now we're going back to 1997 and

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their self -titled album here. The thing about

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this song, it has that punk rock sensibility,

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that punk rock mindset. But if you listen to

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Blur's catalog, it's... One of those instances

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where I said it kind of toes the line, the song

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is punk in nature, but it might have misled people

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who were introduced to Blur by Song 2 thinking,

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oh, this is a punk band. They're a lot more indie

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alternative, but they really brought the punk

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vibe, flavor and flair for this track. So I love

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the opening pick. Thank you. I am going to follow

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that up with something that is. very very punk

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and this is a band that in no way shape or form

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has ever leaned outside of the punk spectrum

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they are a tried and true punk band one of the

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big names in punk and i think one of the more

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influential punk bands and i'm gonna go with

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a song that actually appeared on two of this

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band's albums the first being 1990s against the

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grain but the version i'm gonna go with is off

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their album Stranger Than Fiction, which came

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out in 1994. I'm going to go with Bad Religion's

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21st Century Digital Boy. There's something about

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Andy Wallace's production on Stranger Than Fiction,

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on the album, that just hit the sweet spot for

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me. And Stranger Than Fiction is probably in

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my top 10 favorite punk albums of all time. So

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I definitely wanted to go with something from

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this album. But I will say it's... Pretty damn

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hard to choose a 90s bad religion song because

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they had a ridiculous run of punk albums throughout

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the decade. And for me, the sweet spot is really

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the three album run of 93's Recipe for Hate,

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94's Stranger Than Fiction, and 96's The Gray

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Race, which was produced by one of my favorite...

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producers, songwriters of all time, Rick Okasik

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of the Cars. He did that album after his work

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on Weezer's Blue Album and Bad Brain's God of

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Love. I think Bad Religion is just an iconic

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group. I feel they're very underrated. They never

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hit the mainstream level like a Green Day or

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a Blink -182, but I don't think you get a Green

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Day or a Blink -182 without a band like Bad Religion.

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Well, I was going to say it's so bizarre to me

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that I truly think like bad religion, no effects

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started to pave the way for punk music in a mainstream

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way. And, you know, they walked so Blank and

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Green Day could run. I agree with you. I think

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they're completely underrated and I think they

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should have gotten their their wings for sure.

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Well, now you get to follow up Song 2 and 21st

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Century Digital Boy. What are you going with?

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Yeah, I'll go with one. One of your Patreon members

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recommended because it's high on my list. I'm

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going to go with Linoleum by NoFX from Punk and

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Drublet. One of my all -time favorite punk records.

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And I just, as we mentioned before, I just think

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that NoFX does such a good job of just having

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this raw, energy and this pure punkness to them

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but it could get anyone singing along and I think

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if you're looking to dip your toes into punk

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music that is like the perfect place to start

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is that album oh god yeah 1994 this is my senior

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year in high school this was a band that at the

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time everybody at least that I knew was either

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listening to Hip hop at the time, which was incredible

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in 1994. Don't get me wrong. Or a lot of the

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alternative bands, the Pearl Jams, the Sound

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Gardens, the Alice in Chains. Yet I used to go

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to this record shop in Kearney, New Jersey. It

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was called St. Mark's Place. And he was always

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blasting punk music. And he had this little bin

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at the front door that had 25 cent CD singles

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in it. And it was all different. bands that I

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would go on to discover later in life and become

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huge fans of. And one of the singles I bought

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was actually the single for leave it alone, which

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is the second track on punk and trouble. I had

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that one in my bank, but then at the last second,

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before we started recording, I actually switched

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it to linoleum because I thought to myself, real

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no effects fans, if they were going to introduce

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no effects to somebody who never heard no effects

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before. what song would they choose? And I thought

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linoleum would be it. And sure enough, that's

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the one you picked. And I think to introduce

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somebody to a band like no effects, if you start

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somewhere outside of punk and drublick, they

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might not give the band the chance. I feel like

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punk and drublick is their most digestible album

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for somebody who's never heard their music before.

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Yeah, I agree. And I think it is such an easy

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segue into harder punk stuff. by listening to

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that album first. It's one of my just all -time

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favorites. And I'm going to follow that up with

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something that is a little heavier in the punk

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spectrum. And this one might ruffle some feathers.

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Not the band. I know right now, when I say the

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band, everyone's going to go, yes. And then when

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I say the song, some people I think are going

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to go, yes. And other people I think are going

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to go, but what about Ruby Soho? Or what about

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Salvation? I am going to go with Rancid, but

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I am going up to 1998's Life Won't Wait because

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coming out of linoleum, I want the haze in the

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hose from Blood Clot. I like that. I like that

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take. I just feel like it's that heavy. side

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of rancid that still incorporates a little bit

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of that ska vibe but it's definitely a lot more

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aggressive and don't get me wrong i love time

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bomb i love ruby soho and outcome the wolves

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is an absolute masterpiece of an album but blood

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clot might low -key be my favorite Rancid song

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of all time. And it was also used for an entire

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scene in 1999's horror slash comedy, Idle Hands,

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yet never made the soundtrack with bands like

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The Offspring and all these other punk groups.

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How it didn't is beyond me, but I just love this

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song. I think they're a great band. Speaking

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of Segway bands, you know, I think they do have

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that ska vibe to them, but I don't think it's

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too much. I think there are ska punk bands that

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are in your face, like, this is ska, get used

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to it, buddy. But they just kind of ease into

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it, which I really liked. And I think that got

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me into more ska music, was by listening to them

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first. They're definitely a way to transition

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from the punk side of ska to the third wave side

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of ska. Where I would say Rancid is more of that

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two -tone sound, which you hear in bands, in

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modern bands like The Interrupters now, versus

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the third wave ska, which gives you the bands

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like Real Big Fish, Mighty Mighty Boss Tones,

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Goldfinger, that whole scene, which I love. Don't

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get me wrong. I've done an entire episode on

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ska punk already, and I probably will do several

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more because I love that scene. For some people,

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it's hard to go from punk to the third wave.

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They need a band to kind of ease them into that.

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And Rancid does it so effortlessly, you might

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not even be aware you're listening to something

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with a little bit of a ska touch. Yeah, it's

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just so nice. I think it's such a breath of fresh

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air, just having those little extra touches of

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ska in there. But again, it's not gonna... blow

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you out of the water could not agree more and

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this has been a pretty heavy first half of uh

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side a what are you following up blood clot with

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okay i am going to follow it up with come out

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and play the offspring smash awesome again i'm

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going off like my favorite albums of all time

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right now This album was like a game changer

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for me, and I think it's a very influential album

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on Winona Fighter's sound. We cover Self -Esteem,

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which was also off of Smash, but there's something

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about Come Out and Play that's got just a little

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more aggression to it. It just kind of has a

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grit to it that when you listen to Come Out and

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Play and then it goes into Self -Esteem, you're

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already amped up and you're ready to... hit those

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singing along parts and self -esteem. And so

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I think come out and play is one of the best

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songs on that album. One of the best officer

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spring songs of all time. Bite me. I don't care.

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Ah, it's time to relax. And you know what that

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means? A glass of wine, your favorite easy chair.

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And of course this compact disc playing on your

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home stereo, believe it or not. My first copy

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of the Offspring smash I got on vacation with

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my parents in North Carolina in 1994. And it

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was on cassette, meaning it did not include time

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to relax on it. I didn't get that joke until

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getting the CD years later. It's a 30 year anniversary

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smash. I know. I know. I had bad habit on my

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list. But I could have also, depending on if

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you started going into the ska realm of 90s pop

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punk, I also had What Happened to You. It was

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such an amazing album. They covered so many different

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styles. And I have to applaud Come Out and Play

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because at the end of the day, that was the song

00:21:07.710 --> 00:21:10.670
that introduced me to The Offspring as well as

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a lot of people. Because this was their mainstream

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introduction. Yeah. And I couldn't think of a...

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A better one for them. I mean, again, it's pop

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sensibility, but it is like there's that grit

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to it that you just it's undeniable punk. So

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I love that song. I love that album. Put it on

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the playlist. All right. And I am going to follow

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it up. I'm going to get a little little heavier

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here because I had a song on my list that one

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of the new Patreon mixtapers chose. And I have

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to agree wholeheartedly. It was one of the first

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songs I wrote down. Because I wanted to make

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sure we were including some of the female punk

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artists in our mixtape. And the first one that

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came to mind was L7's Shit List from 1992's Bricks

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Are Heavy. And that song, to me, I had already

00:22:02.150 --> 00:22:05.410
been familiar with the album. But two years later,

00:22:05.569 --> 00:22:08.769
I took a then -girlfriend to see the movie Natural

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Born Killers. And the opening scene of that movie...

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I had no idea what that movie was when we walked

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into it and we both walked out with our jaws

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on the ground. But that movie and this song in

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that movie just sends it on a whole different

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level. And at the end of the day, L7 were so

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influential and they brought such an aggression

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that I don't think you get a lot of, at least

00:22:36.799 --> 00:22:39.759
in the mainstream. I would say that there were

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groups like. but trumpet or which then became

00:22:43.710 --> 00:22:46.650
Betty blowtorch, which really leaned into that

00:22:46.650 --> 00:22:49.410
heavy, aggressive, angry sound. But that was

00:22:49.410 --> 00:22:52.509
much more in the underground scene. You were

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not even hearing that on college radio. And the

00:22:55.390 --> 00:22:58.990
fact that L seven was able to bring their sound

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to the college level. And even some mainstream

00:23:02.529 --> 00:23:05.569
radio to me was such a huge leap. And it's an

00:23:05.569 --> 00:23:08.230
important thing in the nineties. So I'm going

00:23:08.230 --> 00:23:10.549
to go with shit list. I think that's a great

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choice. I love L7. I really didn't get into them

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until about maybe like I was like 18, 19. But

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I think it's there's not a lot of influential

00:23:24.710 --> 00:23:28.589
females in the punk rock scene. It's like when

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you're like exposed to such bad asses, especially

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as a woman who is. pursuing the same thing it's

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like it's just so sick it's so inspiring and

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i think it's just cool to see a band who one

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like they're not out here being like oh like

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we're the most punk band you know they're like

00:23:52.200 --> 00:23:55.640
we're here with the guys we're rocking we're

00:23:55.640 --> 00:23:59.279
rolling deal with it and i i just think that's

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sick i think they're awesome and man oh man would

00:24:03.400 --> 00:24:05.759
i love to meet them one day And I'm not going

00:24:05.759 --> 00:24:08.720
to lie. I know you guys like to mix in cover

00:24:08.720 --> 00:24:11.400
songs. After seeing you live and hearing some

00:24:11.400 --> 00:24:13.279
of the notes that you can hit when you're screaming,

00:24:13.480 --> 00:24:15.859
I would love to hear you on that third verse

00:24:15.859 --> 00:24:18.380
of Shit List. I think you would nail that one.

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That would be sick. All right. So what are you

00:24:22.099 --> 00:24:26.259
coming out of that with? All right. I will do

00:24:26.259 --> 00:24:30.460
another one for the ladies. I have Bruise Violet

00:24:30.460 --> 00:24:36.250
by Babes in Toyland, 1992. fontanelle i chose

00:24:36.250 --> 00:24:39.309
that song because when i was learning how to

00:24:39.309 --> 00:24:43.329
scream that was my go -to song it's so aggressive

00:24:43.329 --> 00:24:45.809
and you have to use your voice in such a way

00:24:45.809 --> 00:24:51.230
that it taught me how to appropriately and like

00:24:51.230 --> 00:24:54.750
properly sing aggressively or scream while still

00:24:54.750 --> 00:24:56.970
like protecting my voice and again it's just

00:24:56.970 --> 00:25:01.450
like such an inspiring group that i truly think

00:25:01.450 --> 00:25:04.369
they're under so underrated oh god and i think

00:25:04.369 --> 00:25:06.509
everyone should get the chance to listen to them

00:25:06.509 --> 00:25:09.150
and i'm also glad that that's another one that

00:25:09.150 --> 00:25:11.450
we get to check off for the patreon mixtapers

00:25:11.450 --> 00:25:14.930
because chad lamassa chimed in with sweet 69

00:25:14.930 --> 00:25:18.890
yeah i mean another great song again very influential

00:25:18.890 --> 00:25:24.319
band you would not have groups like Veruca salt,

00:25:24.440 --> 00:25:26.759
which definitely leaned a little bit more alternative,

00:25:26.859 --> 00:25:31.359
but they definitely, I hear elements of babes

00:25:31.359 --> 00:25:33.519
and toy landing groups like that in the latter

00:25:33.519 --> 00:25:35.519
part of the nineties. And I think that's amazing.

00:25:35.819 --> 00:25:39.099
And it just blows my mind that a group like babes

00:25:39.099 --> 00:25:42.519
and toy land is still regulated to that kind

00:25:42.519 --> 00:25:46.680
of off outside the mainstream cuff that how did

00:25:46.680 --> 00:25:50.960
they not break mainstream? Because they're just.

00:25:51.400 --> 00:25:54.640
So good at what they do was so effortless. Yeah,

00:25:54.680 --> 00:25:58.019
they deserve their flowers and they did get them

00:25:58.019 --> 00:26:01.619
within the scene. But I mean, I think they should

00:26:01.619 --> 00:26:04.319
have been celebrated way more just across the

00:26:04.319 --> 00:26:08.539
board in the industry. They're awesome. 100%.

00:26:08.539 --> 00:26:10.660
And I'm going to follow that up with a band that

00:26:10.660 --> 00:26:13.980
I feel like has gotten their flowers in some

00:26:13.980 --> 00:26:17.480
sense. And in other sense, I feel like they deserve

00:26:17.480 --> 00:26:21.859
so much more because I used to draw. this band's

00:26:21.859 --> 00:26:26.720
iconic character on every textbook. When you

00:26:26.720 --> 00:26:30.099
would fold the brown paper bag inside out and

00:26:30.099 --> 00:26:31.660
you'd have your textbooks, they used to make

00:26:31.660 --> 00:26:33.859
you cover them back in the nineties. I would

00:26:33.859 --> 00:26:39.799
always draw Milo. Yes. On my textbooks. And I

00:26:39.799 --> 00:26:43.680
want to go off of 1996 is everything sucks. Even

00:26:43.680 --> 00:26:45.960
though I discovered the descendants, believe

00:26:45.960 --> 00:26:48.140
it or not through the movie, pump up the volume.

00:26:48.920 --> 00:26:51.700
With Christian Slater. He plays and screams along

00:26:51.700 --> 00:26:54.140
to their song Wienerschnitzel during the movie.

00:26:54.299 --> 00:26:56.519
And I said, what is that band? And I immediately

00:26:56.519 --> 00:26:59.140
started asking everybody I knew. My older cousin's

00:26:59.140 --> 00:27:01.980
like, dude, it's the Descendants. And he gave

00:27:01.980 --> 00:27:04.279
me the cassette. And that was it. I was a Descendants

00:27:04.279 --> 00:27:09.180
fan. And in 1996, I picked up an Epitaph Records

00:27:09.180 --> 00:27:13.599
compilation called Punk -O -Rama Volume 2. This

00:27:13.599 --> 00:27:16.299
featured songs from, like I said, Descendants,

00:27:16.339 --> 00:27:19.019
Pennywise, Pulley, Rancid, Me First and the Gimme

00:27:19.019 --> 00:27:22.380
Gimmes, Down by Law, Bad Religion. And I think

00:27:22.380 --> 00:27:26.359
the CD cost me like $3 .99. So at the time, it

00:27:26.359 --> 00:27:28.779
was a no -brainer way to check out a bunch of

00:27:28.779 --> 00:27:31.839
different punk bands. Really, really cheap. There

00:27:31.839 --> 00:27:34.319
was no streaming music at the time. There was

00:27:34.319 --> 00:27:38.039
no YouTube. It was either radio, MTV, or your

00:27:38.039 --> 00:27:40.539
friends. So this was a great way to kind of discover.

00:27:41.279 --> 00:27:43.920
And I saw a Descendants song on there. And I

00:27:43.920 --> 00:27:46.480
went, ooh, the Descendants must have a new album

00:27:46.480 --> 00:27:49.200
out. And sure enough, it was 1996's Everything

00:27:49.200 --> 00:27:52.920
Sucks. And the song that I chose is actually

00:27:52.920 --> 00:27:56.539
only 35 seconds long. So I've already spoken

00:27:56.539 --> 00:27:59.539
at least three times longer than the actual song

00:27:59.539 --> 00:28:04.039
length. However, Coffee Mug is 35 seconds of

00:28:04.039 --> 00:28:06.960
aggression that puts a smile on my face every

00:28:06.960 --> 00:28:10.160
time I hear it. The fact that they snuck the

00:28:10.160 --> 00:28:14.619
word mug into a 35 second song 13 times shows

00:28:14.619 --> 00:28:16.799
you the manic intensity you're getting from this

00:28:16.799 --> 00:28:20.000
one. Yes, it's a little silly. Yes, it's that

00:28:20.000 --> 00:28:23.720
descendant sense of humor. But I don't think

00:28:23.720 --> 00:28:25.160
there's ever been a morning that I've gotten

00:28:25.160 --> 00:28:26.980
up and walked down to the Keurig without going

00:28:26.980 --> 00:28:29.380
mug, mug, mug. So I had to go with coffee mug.

00:28:30.400 --> 00:28:33.740
I think that's a great choice. And, you know,

00:28:33.779 --> 00:28:36.299
I think hug can be a little silly. I mean, we

00:28:36.299 --> 00:28:39.250
have a song that's. just kind of pure satire

00:28:39.250 --> 00:28:43.349
and man the descendants we played a festival

00:28:43.349 --> 00:28:49.789
with them back in 2022 and they were just killing

00:28:49.789 --> 00:28:55.670
they were insane it was such like uh it wasn't

00:28:55.670 --> 00:28:58.509
like shocking but it was like holy shit these

00:28:58.509 --> 00:29:01.410
guys can still rock i felt the same way i saw

00:29:01.410 --> 00:29:04.250
youth of today and gorilla biscuits last year

00:29:04.250 --> 00:29:08.569
nice and they were Just mind blowing. And it's

00:29:08.569 --> 00:29:11.970
so cool to continue to be inspired by a band

00:29:11.970 --> 00:29:15.089
that's been around so long. They're pioneers.

00:29:15.289 --> 00:29:20.150
They're pioneers. And it shows that, yes, look,

00:29:20.309 --> 00:29:23.309
the one thing that is imminent in this world

00:29:23.309 --> 00:29:25.990
is that father time always ends up winning at

00:29:25.990 --> 00:29:28.170
the end of the day. But these guys are out there

00:29:28.170 --> 00:29:31.369
having done this for decades and they still command

00:29:31.369 --> 00:29:34.559
that stage. just as well as any of the young

00:29:34.559 --> 00:29:37.319
bucks with a lot more energy and a lot less back

00:29:37.319 --> 00:29:41.779
pain can do. Yeah. And I, I think that's so one

00:29:41.779 --> 00:29:43.819
of the reasons why it's so inspiring because

00:29:43.819 --> 00:29:46.019
you do like get a lot of people who are like,

00:29:46.099 --> 00:29:47.920
well, what are you going to, cause I move around

00:29:47.920 --> 00:29:50.680
and I thrash around and I am running around.

00:29:50.799 --> 00:29:52.259
Everyone's like, what are you going to do? Like,

00:29:52.259 --> 00:29:55.500
you know, when you're 50, I was like, well, I

00:29:55.500 --> 00:29:59.420
hope I'm still up there playing shows. What are

00:29:59.420 --> 00:30:02.539
you talking about? And to see those guys. Kill

00:30:02.539 --> 00:30:05.339
it to see Walter and Gorilla Biscuits trying

00:30:05.339 --> 00:30:08.740
to do like handstands on the drum riser. It's

00:30:08.740 --> 00:30:13.140
so cool. And it just makes you realize you can

00:30:13.140 --> 00:30:16.160
do it as long as you want to do it. Punk is an

00:30:16.160 --> 00:30:18.660
attitude. It's got nothing to do with age. Exactly.

00:30:19.059 --> 00:30:22.240
So what are you following up Coffee Mug with?

00:30:23.000 --> 00:30:28.640
Oh, man. Okay. I am going to go off of the album

00:30:28.640 --> 00:30:33.920
1994 Teenage Politics. I'm going to go MXPX Punk

00:30:33.920 --> 00:30:38.559
Rock Show. Nice. I chose this one because I saw

00:30:38.559 --> 00:30:42.380
them perform it this past fall at Furnace Fest.

00:30:42.720 --> 00:30:46.619
And it was just another situation where you felt

00:30:46.619 --> 00:30:49.779
like they were at their peak again watching it.

00:30:49.980 --> 00:30:53.359
And so I just love moments like that. And now

00:30:53.359 --> 00:30:56.279
every time I listen to the song, it just brings

00:30:56.279 --> 00:30:59.740
me back to seeing them perform it live. And I

00:30:59.740 --> 00:31:02.779
think it's such a good. segue for people to get

00:31:02.779 --> 00:31:07.319
again to get into mxpx i think it has that it

00:31:07.319 --> 00:31:10.579
just energizes you i don't know it just you know

00:31:10.579 --> 00:31:13.880
it's probably my favorite mxpx record probably

00:31:13.880 --> 00:31:17.980
one of my favorite songs punk rock show r -a

00:31:17.980 --> 00:31:22.200
-w -k well i love that song i saw them perform

00:31:22.200 --> 00:31:25.119
that at the birch hill nightclub which was it's

00:31:25.119 --> 00:31:28.059
now a condo development in old bridge new jersey

00:31:28.059 --> 00:31:31.909
but this was one of those venues that was Just

00:31:31.909 --> 00:31:36.309
to me, one of my favorite, smaller, intimate

00:31:36.309 --> 00:31:38.809
venues where you got to see bigger name bands

00:31:38.809 --> 00:31:40.910
because the venue just happened to draw them

00:31:40.910 --> 00:31:44.309
in somehow. And it was always somehow, no matter

00:31:44.309 --> 00:31:47.569
how big the band was, even if the show was sold

00:31:47.569 --> 00:31:50.130
out, somehow people always managed to get in.

00:31:50.269 --> 00:31:53.069
And MXPX was sold out when we got there. And

00:31:53.069 --> 00:31:54.789
the guy was just like, just give me the money

00:31:54.789 --> 00:31:57.710
and go up. Like, I don't even know. So I got

00:31:57.710 --> 00:31:59.650
to see this show. The one thing I'll never forget

00:31:59.650 --> 00:32:02.740
about this song. We were right up front during

00:32:02.740 --> 00:32:07.440
Punk Rock Show. And at the time I was 315 pounds

00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:11.039
and somebody in the front thought that they would

00:32:11.039 --> 00:32:14.039
be able to jump into me and knock me over in

00:32:14.039 --> 00:32:16.740
the pit. And I'll never forget the song was playing

00:32:16.740 --> 00:32:18.799
and this kid tried to do like a swinging kick

00:32:18.799 --> 00:32:22.980
into me and I caught him. And he looked me dead

00:32:22.980 --> 00:32:25.160
in the eye. He goes, that backfired. I said,

00:32:25.180 --> 00:32:28.180
it certainly did. And I just flog him up over

00:32:28.180 --> 00:32:32.160
my head. I love that. So I love that song. I

00:32:32.160 --> 00:32:35.039
love MXPX. And I'm so glad that they're still

00:32:35.039 --> 00:32:36.920
out doing what they do. Because Mike Herrera

00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:39.619
is just such an amazing talent. Such a great

00:32:39.619 --> 00:32:42.599
singer. Such a great bass player. He plays in

00:32:42.599 --> 00:32:45.400
Goldfinger now. He does shows with them on bass.

00:32:45.460 --> 00:32:49.609
So I love it. And to close out Side A, we've

00:32:49.609 --> 00:32:52.670
done such a unique spectrum here. I want to go

00:32:52.670 --> 00:32:55.950
with another iconic punk rock group. And I want

00:32:55.950 --> 00:32:58.710
to go with one that, because Coffee Mug was a

00:32:58.710 --> 00:33:00.829
little bit on the sillier side, I want to go

00:33:00.829 --> 00:33:02.690
to the other end of that spectrum and do something

00:33:02.690 --> 00:33:05.690
that's a little bit more introspective, maybe.

00:33:05.809 --> 00:33:07.650
I don't want to say serious, but definitely something

00:33:07.650 --> 00:33:11.329
that when you listen to the lyrics, it can kind

00:33:11.329 --> 00:33:12.970
of hit you in a way. And this is a song that

00:33:12.970 --> 00:33:17.000
has hit me decade by decade. More and more as

00:33:17.000 --> 00:33:19.440
the years go by. And I'm going to go off their

00:33:19.440 --> 00:33:23.059
1990 self -titled album. And I'm going with Social

00:33:23.059 --> 00:33:26.160
Distortion's Story of My Life. That was on my

00:33:26.160 --> 00:33:29.359
list. Nice. There's something about the lyrics

00:33:29.359 --> 00:33:31.980
in this song. The older I get, the more they

00:33:31.980 --> 00:33:35.339
resonate with me. And the more the song means

00:33:35.339 --> 00:33:38.119
to me. Because you can kind of feel the years

00:33:38.119 --> 00:33:41.490
behind you in this song. And obviously. Film

00:33:41.490 --> 00:33:44.549
fans will remember this song from Reality Bites.

00:33:44.569 --> 00:33:46.769
It was in the movie, but not on the soundtrack,

00:33:46.950 --> 00:33:49.869
which is ridiculous to me, but regardless. And

00:33:49.869 --> 00:33:53.549
in 2005, Real Big Fish covered the song in a

00:33:53.549 --> 00:33:56.890
full two -tone ska version on their We're Not

00:33:56.890 --> 00:33:59.809
Happy Till You're Not Happy album. I don't think

00:33:59.809 --> 00:34:02.910
you can do a 90s punk episode and not bring up

00:34:02.910 --> 00:34:07.210
Mike Ness. He is a pioneer in punk. He is somebody

00:34:07.210 --> 00:34:11.170
that I think the scene. has rallied around, looked

00:34:11.170 --> 00:34:14.070
up to. They've put out such an incredible catalog

00:34:14.070 --> 00:34:17.110
of albums. And they're one of those bands that

00:34:17.110 --> 00:34:21.130
never got massive, but are so well -respected

00:34:21.130 --> 00:34:24.849
and so influential. I don't think they ever needed

00:34:24.849 --> 00:34:28.030
the mainstream because they have somehow cemented

00:34:28.030 --> 00:34:30.030
their legacy without it. And to me, there's nothing

00:34:30.030 --> 00:34:32.869
more punk rock than that. Yeah, I mean, you can't

00:34:32.869 --> 00:34:37.750
say their name and not... I think they were not

00:34:37.750 --> 00:34:40.869
huge. but they're still like a household name,

00:34:40.969 --> 00:34:43.389
you know? And I think that's so special. And

00:34:43.389 --> 00:34:46.550
I saw them open for, I think, the Foo Fighters

00:34:46.550 --> 00:34:51.829
when I was in middle school. And I just thought

00:34:51.829 --> 00:34:54.630
it was the coolest thing ever. And then they

00:34:54.630 --> 00:34:58.389
closed it out with Story of My Life. And I just

00:34:58.389 --> 00:35:00.809
remember being like wide -eyed because that's

00:35:00.809 --> 00:35:03.989
when I was still getting into older punk rock

00:35:03.989 --> 00:35:09.260
music, like 90s. I was born in 97, so 90s. punk

00:35:09.260 --> 00:35:11.579
rock that's when I was like kind of diving into

00:35:11.579 --> 00:35:15.400
it a little more and and just realizing oh like

00:35:15.400 --> 00:35:18.659
you can be a punk rock band you can have heavier

00:35:18.659 --> 00:35:21.980
punk rock songs but you can also have your story

00:35:21.980 --> 00:35:26.699
of my life which is just so it's so nice you

00:35:26.699 --> 00:35:28.920
know it just it's like it's like you're on a

00:35:28.920 --> 00:35:31.760
beach that's like what I think when I hear that

00:35:31.760 --> 00:35:35.039
song it's just enlightening and it can't help

00:35:35.039 --> 00:35:37.889
but like put a smile on your face and You don't

00:35:37.889 --> 00:35:40.889
have to be angry all the time. Amen. Yeah. I

00:35:40.889 --> 00:35:42.409
think that's a great one to close it out with.

00:35:42.530 --> 00:35:45.150
Well, there you have it. Side A of our ultimate

00:35:45.150 --> 00:35:48.110
90s punk mixtape, which kicked off with Blur's

00:35:48.110 --> 00:35:51.969
Song 2, Bad Religion's 21st Century Digital Boy,

00:35:52.369 --> 00:35:56.969
NoFX's Linoleum, Rancid's Blood Clot, The Offspring's

00:35:56.969 --> 00:36:01.369
Come Out and Play, L7's Shitlist, Babe's in Toyland's

00:36:01.369 --> 00:36:05.420
Bruise Violet, Descendant's Coffee Mug, MXPX's

00:36:05.420 --> 00:36:08.860
Punk Rock Show, and Social Distortion's Story

00:36:08.860 --> 00:36:12.400
of My Life. Head over to myweeklymixtape .com

00:36:12.400 --> 00:36:14.960
to hear all the songs we've discussed in this

00:36:14.960 --> 00:36:18.260
mix through the playlist embedded on the episode

00:36:18.260 --> 00:36:21.630
page. Now, Coco, we've been talking about 90s

00:36:21.630 --> 00:36:23.650
punk the entire time, but now I'd like to take

00:36:23.650 --> 00:36:27.769
some time to talk about 2024 punk being Winona

00:36:27.769 --> 00:36:30.530
Fighter's music. As I mentioned at the top of

00:36:30.530 --> 00:36:32.369
the show, you started off in the Boston music

00:36:32.369 --> 00:36:35.969
scene before you upped and moved to Nashville.

00:36:36.250 --> 00:36:38.989
Did you have any musical culture shock when you

00:36:38.989 --> 00:36:42.070
first made that move? Because Nashville is not

00:36:42.070 --> 00:36:45.769
one of the meccas of punk rock, at least on paper.

00:36:46.250 --> 00:36:50.989
It was. A tough transition, but it's what inspired

00:36:50.989 --> 00:36:54.510
me to start when I'm a fighter. And Nashville

00:36:54.510 --> 00:36:57.570
has a way better rock and alternative scene now.

00:36:57.650 --> 00:37:02.329
But when I moved here in 2015, I would go to

00:37:02.329 --> 00:37:05.710
Cafe Coco and the Family Wash and a couple times

00:37:05.710 --> 00:37:08.969
a week. And I just never felt like I could find

00:37:08.969 --> 00:37:11.969
what I was missing from Boston. And so I was

00:37:11.969 --> 00:37:15.639
like, well, I'll just do it. myself. So it was

00:37:15.639 --> 00:37:18.840
definitely a culture shock, but I think it inspired

00:37:18.840 --> 00:37:23.360
me that much more to have a punk band of my own

00:37:23.360 --> 00:37:26.900
and get out from behind the drum kit and be a

00:37:26.900 --> 00:37:30.139
front person. Well, apologies in advance for

00:37:30.139 --> 00:37:32.619
the comparison, but you mentioned the band name

00:37:32.619 --> 00:37:34.480
before, and then you mentioned you were a drummer.

00:37:34.719 --> 00:37:38.559
So you have taken the quote unquote, Dave Grohl

00:37:38.559 --> 00:37:41.900
approach heading towards the microphone because

00:37:41.900 --> 00:37:44.869
you started off. on the drum kit. And you're

00:37:44.869 --> 00:37:46.730
an incredible drummer, I should add, because

00:37:46.730 --> 00:37:50.849
I saw your older drum cover of the Chainsmokers'

00:37:50.909 --> 00:37:54.530
Don't Let Me Down, which was awesome. Can you

00:37:54.530 --> 00:37:57.010
talk about that transition for you from behind

00:37:57.010 --> 00:37:59.050
the kit to in front of the microphone? Because

00:37:59.050 --> 00:38:03.030
personally, from my experience as a bassist and

00:38:03.030 --> 00:38:05.630
a lead singer, depending on what I'm doing on

00:38:05.630 --> 00:38:13.539
stage, it's a completely different mindset. biggest

00:38:13.539 --> 00:38:18.860
influence and I think it was nice to be influenced

00:38:18.860 --> 00:38:21.219
by him as a drummer and then when I was ready

00:38:21.219 --> 00:38:24.159
to kind of like make the switch be like oh well

00:38:24.159 --> 00:38:28.559
like he did it I'll do it you know and so I think

00:38:28.559 --> 00:38:33.760
that the biggest like mental change was I think

00:38:33.760 --> 00:38:36.800
the attention that you get as a front person

00:38:36.800 --> 00:38:40.619
because when I was back on the drums I'm a hard

00:38:40.619 --> 00:38:45.920
hitter I'm a heavy hitter And I am like an animal

00:38:45.920 --> 00:38:49.619
back there, but I couldn't see anyone. So like,

00:38:49.679 --> 00:38:52.280
I can't see them. They can't see me. I don't

00:38:52.280 --> 00:38:55.059
have to talk to the crowd. I just have to play

00:38:55.059 --> 00:38:59.579
these drums as hard as possible. And I think

00:38:59.579 --> 00:39:01.820
making that transition to being in front of everyone,

00:39:01.880 --> 00:39:05.940
it took me a second to kind of like realize that

00:39:05.940 --> 00:39:10.059
all attention is on you. And I think that's one

00:39:10.059 --> 00:39:14.030
of the reasons why. I am so comfortable making

00:39:14.030 --> 00:39:17.829
little jokes as a front person is because it

00:39:17.829 --> 00:39:20.269
makes me more comfortable being up there and

00:39:20.269 --> 00:39:22.250
being up front. It's like when you joke about

00:39:22.250 --> 00:39:25.650
your trauma to like make it easier. So I think

00:39:25.650 --> 00:39:28.530
that was the biggest transition was not necessarily

00:39:28.530 --> 00:39:35.030
the aspect of playing live, but just the you

00:39:35.030 --> 00:39:38.630
can see everyone and they see you and it's all

00:39:38.630 --> 00:39:42.260
eyes on you. So that was the biggest thing. Well,

00:39:42.300 --> 00:39:46.380
given your experience on drums, do you personally

00:39:46.380 --> 00:39:50.000
record the drums for Renona Fighters tracks in

00:39:50.000 --> 00:39:54.159
the studio? I do. Yep. So everything 2023 and

00:39:54.159 --> 00:39:58.900
forward are all my drums. Given that, how do

00:39:58.900 --> 00:40:02.219
you transition the songs from what you recorded

00:40:02.219 --> 00:40:04.320
to the live stage with your other drummer? Do

00:40:04.320 --> 00:40:07.889
you let him put his... touch or flare on them?

00:40:07.929 --> 00:40:10.130
Or do you try to keep them as close to the studio

00:40:10.130 --> 00:40:15.150
recordings as possible? I sent him the recordings

00:40:15.150 --> 00:40:18.769
and, you know, I were two completely different

00:40:18.769 --> 00:40:23.349
drummers. I am a guard hitting, stick to the

00:40:23.349 --> 00:40:27.949
basics and play in the pocket. And he is a very

00:40:27.949 --> 00:40:30.869
talented, loves like the intricate fills and

00:40:30.869 --> 00:40:34.909
stuff. So I just send him the things, like play

00:40:34.909 --> 00:40:37.329
the songs correctly. But do what you want to

00:40:37.329 --> 00:40:40.789
do. And I think that's great. I think it's better

00:40:40.789 --> 00:40:43.369
that way. I would never, as a drummer, I never

00:40:43.369 --> 00:40:47.170
liked when someone told me how to play. And so

00:40:47.170 --> 00:40:49.949
I'm not going to hire a drummer who I know has

00:40:49.949 --> 00:40:51.909
a different style than me and try to make them

00:40:51.909 --> 00:40:55.449
change their style. It's like if he's to do something

00:40:55.449 --> 00:40:58.630
that I hear that I don't like, I'll say it. But

00:40:58.630 --> 00:41:01.989
at the end of the day, I don't believe in making

00:41:01.989 --> 00:41:04.889
him a drummer that he's not. Because I wouldn't

00:41:04.889 --> 00:41:07.539
want that. So there's like the pros and cons.

00:41:07.659 --> 00:41:09.840
Like I know what it's like to be the drummer.

00:41:10.260 --> 00:41:12.519
But that being said, I also hear everything.

00:41:13.099 --> 00:41:15.340
So like one little thing is wrong. I'm like,

00:41:15.380 --> 00:41:22.619
what was that? It's a very hard gig. I give him

00:41:22.619 --> 00:41:25.119
all the credit in the world. It's a very hard

00:41:25.119 --> 00:41:27.920
gig. Well, I have to ask because I've been intrigued

00:41:27.920 --> 00:41:30.880
by the band name since I first was introduced

00:41:30.880 --> 00:41:33.739
to it. What's the story behind Winona Fighter?

00:41:34.699 --> 00:41:38.639
So for I started the project, I started writing

00:41:38.639 --> 00:41:43.579
for it in like 2015, started in 2016. And Dan

00:41:43.579 --> 00:41:46.639
is an OG member. And we were just going by my

00:41:46.639 --> 00:41:49.320
nickname for a while, which is Coco. And that's

00:41:49.320 --> 00:41:52.519
what everyone knows me as is Coco. And we were

00:41:52.519 --> 00:41:55.840
on beat and put on these like rock bills and

00:41:55.840 --> 00:41:58.500
these punk bills. And it just like didn't look

00:41:58.500 --> 00:42:01.809
right. I hated it. And also I'm very private

00:42:01.809 --> 00:42:04.389
too. So I'm like, I don't know if I want just

00:42:04.389 --> 00:42:08.110
like my name as the name. And we did the father

00:42:08.110 --> 00:42:10.590
figure EP. And I was like, do we want to release

00:42:10.590 --> 00:42:15.550
our debut EP under this name? And so it was actually

00:42:15.550 --> 00:42:20.030
Austin and I were going back and forth. Like

00:42:20.030 --> 00:42:23.030
just, we would walk by each other and say a band

00:42:23.030 --> 00:42:25.349
name. And I would either be like, no, or he would

00:42:25.349 --> 00:42:29.329
be like, no. And then one night he came up with.

00:42:29.739 --> 00:42:33.800
Winona Fighter and at first I was like no and

00:42:33.800 --> 00:42:37.199
then I woke up the next morning I kept playing

00:42:37.199 --> 00:42:39.280
it over in my head and I was like writing it

00:42:39.280 --> 00:42:42.280
down and he was like I think that's cool I think

00:42:42.280 --> 00:42:44.380
Winona Fighter is cool and I was like oh I don't

00:42:44.380 --> 00:42:47.280
know and then later that day I was like you know

00:42:47.280 --> 00:42:50.460
what no that's sick oh that's how we came up

00:42:50.460 --> 00:42:52.019
with the name we just wanted to do something

00:42:52.019 --> 00:42:57.320
that had like a feminine but also aggressive

00:42:58.380 --> 00:43:03.340
edge to it. And I think it really resembles us

00:43:03.340 --> 00:43:06.519
as a band. Oh, mission accomplished for sure.

00:43:06.800 --> 00:43:09.639
Yeah. And you recently signed to Rise Records.

00:43:09.760 --> 00:43:12.619
Can you talk about how that connection came about?

00:43:13.000 --> 00:43:17.420
Yeah, we had been talking to a few labels and

00:43:17.420 --> 00:43:21.420
doing the whole shopping our songs around and

00:43:21.420 --> 00:43:25.659
seeing if anyone bites. And I remember my manager

00:43:25.659 --> 00:43:31.099
over at Indigute. He introduced me to Sean, who

00:43:31.099 --> 00:43:34.000
works over at Rise Records, and we chatted it

00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:38.119
up. And it was like the first meeting where I

00:43:38.119 --> 00:43:43.380
felt seen as an artist. I felt like they genuinely

00:43:43.380 --> 00:43:47.420
cared about what we wanted to accomplish as a

00:43:47.420 --> 00:43:51.619
band. And they were just like, what you're doing

00:43:51.619 --> 00:43:54.039
is working. We're not going to make you change

00:43:54.039 --> 00:43:56.900
anything. We're not going to make you start like...

00:43:56.920 --> 00:43:59.119
doing these TikToks or we're not going to, if

00:43:59.119 --> 00:44:01.360
you want to record the whole album in your house,

00:44:01.400 --> 00:44:04.039
go for it. Like we're talking to you. So it's

00:44:04.039 --> 00:44:08.860
working obviously. And I just felt so good after

00:44:08.860 --> 00:44:11.199
talking to them. I was like, I don't, I don't

00:44:11.199 --> 00:44:13.739
think I want to talk to anyone else. You know,

00:44:13.739 --> 00:44:16.920
it was like when you're dating around. Yeah.

00:44:17.639 --> 00:44:20.460
And then I think it was like after that meeting,

00:44:20.699 --> 00:44:23.400
they were like, we would love to sign you guys.

00:44:24.039 --> 00:44:27.150
Obviously that's a slow process. Cut to six months

00:44:27.150 --> 00:44:31.570
later, January 2024, we signed a record deal

00:44:31.570 --> 00:44:34.550
with them. And it's probably the most artist

00:44:34.550 --> 00:44:37.130
-friendly record deal an up -and -coming band

00:44:37.130 --> 00:44:40.809
could ask for. Amazing. Well, let's take a listen

00:44:40.809 --> 00:44:43.269
to the band's latest single, I'm in the Market

00:44:43.269 --> 00:46:02.389
to Please No One. Now, Coco, this track is an

00:46:02.389 --> 00:46:05.389
anthemic way to stand up for yourself in the

00:46:05.389 --> 00:46:09.690
midst of toxicity. While the lyrics could feel

00:46:09.690 --> 00:46:12.150
like it's coming from, I'd say, a place of anger,

00:46:12.269 --> 00:46:14.130
you've stated that it's much more than that.

00:46:14.190 --> 00:46:17.929
Could you elaborate on that? Yeah, I wrote, I'm

00:46:17.929 --> 00:46:20.949
in the market to please no one. I had found a

00:46:20.949 --> 00:46:24.409
note. It must have been from like a therapy homework

00:46:24.409 --> 00:46:27.030
assignment. It was a letter I had written to

00:46:27.030 --> 00:46:33.920
an ex -partner. And I just felt so weak reading

00:46:33.920 --> 00:46:37.739
it. And I think there comes a point in every

00:46:37.739 --> 00:46:40.260
musician's career where you realize you have

00:46:40.260 --> 00:46:44.559
a voice and people want to listen to you. And

00:46:44.559 --> 00:46:48.139
so I had never written about this situation before.

00:46:48.360 --> 00:46:51.599
And I decided if I was going to write about it,

00:46:51.659 --> 00:46:54.139
then I'm going to do it in a way that's empowering

00:46:54.139 --> 00:46:57.829
and a way that... makes people want to stand

00:46:57.829 --> 00:47:00.170
up for themselves instead of in a way that is

00:47:00.170 --> 00:47:05.309
like solemn and I'm a victim and xyz it's like

00:47:05.309 --> 00:47:10.469
get up kick some ass and just kind of be strong

00:47:10.469 --> 00:47:14.369
so I was definitely like it was hard though to

00:47:14.369 --> 00:47:16.650
get to the process of releasing it because when

00:47:16.650 --> 00:47:18.849
I I know like when I showed it to Austin and

00:47:18.849 --> 00:47:21.949
Dan I was like but it's not a single when I showed

00:47:21.949 --> 00:47:23.650
it to management I was like it's not a single

00:47:23.650 --> 00:47:26.409
though Because I think it's tough writing about

00:47:26.409 --> 00:47:28.750
those things, but now that it is a single and

00:47:28.750 --> 00:47:32.349
it is out in the world, it's so cool to see how

00:47:32.349 --> 00:47:36.210
it's resonated with people. I had a dad with

00:47:36.210 --> 00:47:38.570
a 14 -year -old daughter come up to me the other

00:47:38.570 --> 00:47:42.550
day being like, it is so awesome for there to

00:47:42.550 --> 00:47:48.000
be an empowered female in the punk scene. And

00:47:48.000 --> 00:47:51.079
I had a domestic violence attorney come up to

00:47:51.079 --> 00:47:52.800
me at the show the other night being like, I

00:47:52.800 --> 00:47:55.760
send your song to all my clients. Like how it's

00:47:55.760 --> 00:47:58.340
resonated is so cool. And it's resonating in

00:47:58.340 --> 00:48:02.320
the exact way that I felt when I wrote it. Well,

00:48:02.420 --> 00:48:05.960
I have to echo what the other father said, because

00:48:05.960 --> 00:48:09.320
I have a teenager and soon to be teenager, both

00:48:09.320 --> 00:48:12.340
girls. And when I hear songs like this that empower

00:48:12.340 --> 00:48:15.889
women, it puts a smile on my face because That

00:48:15.889 --> 00:48:19.150
is why I have no problem taking the girls to

00:48:19.150 --> 00:48:22.150
see The Interrupters because I would rather them

00:48:22.150 --> 00:48:25.969
sing Take Back the Power and other songs along

00:48:25.969 --> 00:48:29.849
those lines where the power is given and not

00:48:29.849 --> 00:48:33.650
taken from them. And I think that it's rare in

00:48:33.650 --> 00:48:36.909
music now. And I'm glad to see more voices coming

00:48:36.909 --> 00:48:39.829
out with songs like this. So thank you for that.

00:48:40.010 --> 00:48:42.489
Thank you. Now I'd like to play a couple of other

00:48:42.489 --> 00:48:45.929
clips. The first being a song that I think, really

00:48:45.929 --> 00:48:48.130
lit up the Starland when I saw you guys last

00:48:48.130 --> 00:49:29.599
week, and that is Hams in a Glass. And along

00:49:29.599 --> 00:49:31.800
with Hams in a Glass, I'd also like to share

00:49:31.800 --> 00:49:35.260
a clip of another 2023 single from the band entitled

00:49:35.260 --> 00:50:20.670
Johnny's Dead. Now, Coco, is it safe to assume

00:50:20.670 --> 00:50:23.809
that these two songs that I just played, Hams

00:50:23.809 --> 00:50:27.570
in the Glass and Johnny's Dead, along with I'm

00:50:27.570 --> 00:50:30.269
in the Market to Please No One and another single

00:50:30.269 --> 00:50:32.829
you released, I Think You Should Leave, are those

00:50:32.829 --> 00:50:36.090
part of a larger, full -length Winona Fighter

00:50:36.090 --> 00:50:39.230
album? Or is the band taking the singles approach?

00:50:39.849 --> 00:50:43.309
I'm a firm believer in albums. There will be

00:50:43.309 --> 00:50:46.710
an album. Over my dead body will there not be

00:50:46.710 --> 00:50:49.679
enough. Well, the other thing I wanted to bring

00:50:49.679 --> 00:50:51.760
up from the recent live set, we talked about

00:50:51.760 --> 00:50:56.019
it earlier, your cover of Blur's Song 2, which

00:50:56.019 --> 00:50:59.239
you also covered, like you said, The Offspring's

00:50:59.239 --> 00:51:01.739
Self -Esteem. And I've seen a video of you guys

00:51:01.739 --> 00:51:05.179
covering Blink -182's Damn It. What is the band's

00:51:05.179 --> 00:51:08.760
mindset in terms of covering a song and bringing

00:51:08.760 --> 00:51:11.460
it into the set? Because from what I've seen

00:51:11.460 --> 00:51:13.920
live and as well as online, you guys are really

00:51:13.920 --> 00:51:16.139
hitting the nail on the head with the song choices.

00:51:16.679 --> 00:51:19.989
Thank you. I think the whole point of the covers

00:51:19.989 --> 00:51:24.630
is to engage people who have never heard of us

00:51:24.630 --> 00:51:27.610
and don't know the songs. And I always say that

00:51:27.610 --> 00:51:30.769
I believe in shows where everyone can sing along

00:51:30.769 --> 00:51:34.550
at least once. I mean, that's it's so freeing.

00:51:34.550 --> 00:51:37.309
It's such a just exciting experience. And so

00:51:37.309 --> 00:51:40.090
picking these songs that aren't deep cuts that

00:51:40.090 --> 00:51:43.409
are just like everyone knows this. You don't

00:51:43.409 --> 00:51:45.210
have to learn it. I don't have to teach it to

00:51:45.210 --> 00:51:48.309
you. I think. That brings excitement to our set

00:51:48.309 --> 00:51:51.010
for people who have never heard of us and don't

00:51:51.010 --> 00:51:53.489
know our music. Yeah, I love it. I love doing

00:51:53.489 --> 00:51:57.110
covers. I think a lot of bands shy away from

00:51:57.110 --> 00:51:59.150
it, but I think it's a great way to engage the

00:51:59.150 --> 00:52:01.829
audience. So with that, is there any chance you

00:52:01.829 --> 00:52:03.849
guys might record some of your cover songs at

00:52:03.849 --> 00:52:05.570
some point and release them as studio singles?

00:52:06.130 --> 00:52:09.610
I'd love to. Yeah, I think I could picture us

00:52:09.610 --> 00:52:14.369
doing. We did a video of a song, too, a while

00:52:14.369 --> 00:52:19.090
ago. But I would love to record self -esteem

00:52:19.090 --> 00:52:22.650
or maybe even pick something new and do like

00:52:22.650 --> 00:52:25.610
a studio version of it. Awesome. Well, with that,

00:52:25.650 --> 00:52:28.510
we're going to transition over to side B of our

00:52:28.510 --> 00:52:31.250
90s punk rock mixtape. And I get to kick things

00:52:31.250 --> 00:52:35.469
off. And there's one band that is on the yes,

00:52:35.510 --> 00:52:38.070
we're going to be obvious list. And I'm going

00:52:38.070 --> 00:52:39.809
to check it off. But I'm going to go with a song

00:52:39.809 --> 00:52:44.179
that might not be as obvious. So Big Name. And

00:52:44.179 --> 00:52:47.179
I'll say a little bit of a deeper cut. And this

00:52:47.179 --> 00:52:52.219
song came out in 1995 and it was featured on

00:52:52.219 --> 00:52:55.159
a soundtrack. And that soundtrack is one of my

00:52:55.159 --> 00:52:57.780
favorite soundtracks of the decade to a little

00:52:57.780 --> 00:53:01.099
known movie called Angus, which really hit home

00:53:01.099 --> 00:53:04.480
for me. It was a high school movie. And the opening

00:53:04.480 --> 00:53:08.380
track on the soundtrack was Green Day. And the

00:53:08.380 --> 00:53:12.739
song is called J .A .R. or Jason Andrew Relva.

00:53:13.070 --> 00:53:15.570
It's an outtake from the Dookie Sessions. It's

00:53:15.570 --> 00:53:18.530
now on the Dookie box set. But to me, it was

00:53:18.530 --> 00:53:22.469
always from the Angus soundtrack. Such an amazing

00:53:22.469 --> 00:53:24.929
opening bass line right up there with Longview.

00:53:25.010 --> 00:53:27.230
Mike Dern is one of my favorite bass players

00:53:27.230 --> 00:53:30.989
of the 90s. I love the way he walks during these

00:53:30.989 --> 00:53:34.710
punk songs. And there's something about Jason

00:53:34.710 --> 00:53:37.030
Andrew Relva knowing the story behind the song.

00:53:37.110 --> 00:53:39.050
It's about a friend of Mike Dern's who committed

00:53:39.050 --> 00:53:42.659
suicide in a car crash. The lyrics are a lot

00:53:42.659 --> 00:53:47.179
different than the teenage Longview style of

00:53:47.179 --> 00:53:51.360
Green Day. And it's a much deeper song. And it

00:53:51.360 --> 00:53:54.739
was at that point that I realized that pop punk

00:53:54.739 --> 00:53:58.280
could tug at the heartstrings a little bit. And

00:53:58.280 --> 00:54:01.400
to me, that was a defining moment in punk rock

00:54:01.400 --> 00:54:05.579
for me, because here was a song that at the time

00:54:05.579 --> 00:54:10.090
in 1995, Story of My Life. didn't hit like it

00:54:10.090 --> 00:54:13.809
does now so what i had ended on side a it took

00:54:13.809 --> 00:54:17.090
me a long time to realize what those words meant

00:54:17.090 --> 00:54:19.989
but the first time i heard jason andrew relva

00:54:19.989 --> 00:54:23.250
it hit me and i knew what those words meant and

00:54:23.250 --> 00:54:26.230
the song is just be on top of the fact that it's

00:54:26.230 --> 00:54:29.570
powerful it's also just a ridiculously catchy

00:54:29.570 --> 00:54:34.070
punk song yeah i love that song i 90s green day

00:54:34.070 --> 00:54:36.469
will always have a special place in my heart

00:54:36.989 --> 00:54:40.909
However, on our van ride yesterday, I was blasting

00:54:40.909 --> 00:54:44.269
All of American Idiot. You can't tell me that's

00:54:44.269 --> 00:54:47.730
not a good record, okay? No, it's awesome. People

00:54:47.730 --> 00:54:52.349
my age are haters about it. Really? And I'm shutting

00:54:52.349 --> 00:54:55.510
that down right now. But that being said, 90s

00:54:55.510 --> 00:54:58.789
Green Day will always just top that for me. It's

00:54:58.789 --> 00:55:00.940
weird for me because when people... say to me

00:55:00.940 --> 00:55:03.039
because i host a music podcast i get random like

00:55:03.039 --> 00:55:05.519
what's your favorite album by blank and when

00:55:05.519 --> 00:55:07.159
people say what's your favorite album by green

00:55:07.159 --> 00:55:10.619
day i don't even stop i go insomniac and people

00:55:10.619 --> 00:55:14.340
go what and they're like why insomniac that doesn't

00:55:14.340 --> 00:55:15.960
really have a lot of hits on it and i'm like

00:55:15.960 --> 00:55:20.460
aha exactly and yes brain stew is my least favorite

00:55:20.460 --> 00:55:23.539
song on the album because it was the big radio

00:55:23.539 --> 00:55:26.599
hit insomniac was kind of green days kind of

00:55:26.599 --> 00:55:29.570
flipping their flexing their punk rock muscles

00:55:29.570 --> 00:55:32.690
on that album and it's the heaviest most aggressive

00:55:32.690 --> 00:55:36.409
green day album but as far as single songs go

00:55:36.409 --> 00:55:40.090
no green day song hits me like jason andrew relva

00:55:40.090 --> 00:55:43.309
does so it's like i was really struggling trying

00:55:43.309 --> 00:55:45.050
to decide if i wanted to go with something off

00:55:45.050 --> 00:55:48.530
of insomniac or go with jar and that's what i

00:55:48.530 --> 00:55:52.570
ended up going with okay let me take a look at

00:55:52.570 --> 00:55:57.340
my list okay You know what? I'm going to follow

00:55:57.340 --> 00:56:00.820
suit, and I'm going to also do well -known band,

00:56:01.039 --> 00:56:05.159
well -known album, maybe a little bit of a deeper

00:56:05.159 --> 00:56:10.300
cut, because I think this song just rips. I'm

00:56:10.300 --> 00:56:15.960
going to go Year I Was Born, 1997, Blink -182's

00:56:15.960 --> 00:56:19.920
Dude Ranch, and I'm going to go Josie. Nice.

00:56:20.579 --> 00:56:24.000
With that album as a whole, I think it's definitely

00:56:24.000 --> 00:56:27.800
more raw. As far as Blink -182 goes, I think

00:56:27.800 --> 00:56:30.179
they're kind of starting to get into that more

00:56:30.179 --> 00:56:33.119
produced pop punkness, but it still has that

00:56:33.119 --> 00:56:38.420
like raw DIY energy to it. And I think Josie's

00:56:38.420 --> 00:56:44.159
just fast. It's fun. The lyrics are just so wild.

00:56:44.900 --> 00:56:47.760
And I think everyone can listen to this song.

00:56:47.920 --> 00:56:50.679
And again, it could be a segue. You listen to

00:56:50.679 --> 00:56:53.719
this song and then a bad religion song comes

00:56:53.719 --> 00:56:56.849
on after it. Then a no effect song comes on after

00:56:56.849 --> 00:57:01.789
it. I think it's a nice slope to just listening

00:57:01.789 --> 00:57:05.949
to, you know, punk rock across the board. Damn

00:57:05.949 --> 00:57:09.449
it was the song that probably introduced a lot

00:57:09.449 --> 00:57:12.309
of people to blink 182 because that was like

00:57:12.309 --> 00:57:16.010
their first breakout hit. Yeah. But Josie was

00:57:16.010 --> 00:57:20.030
the song to me that told the world we're more

00:57:20.030 --> 00:57:22.789
than just damn it. And the first time I heard

00:57:22.789 --> 00:57:25.480
that drumbeat, I'm going, what? the oh my god

00:57:25.480 --> 00:57:27.940
what is this madness that's happening in this

00:57:27.940 --> 00:57:33.019
song it was almost like a thrash blast beat but

00:57:33.019 --> 00:57:38.440
spun into a punk rock form and it worked so effortlessly

00:57:38.440 --> 00:57:43.659
i i think it's such a great song and i think

00:57:43.659 --> 00:57:47.340
it definitely ties it's like a nice little bow

00:57:47.340 --> 00:57:51.659
on damn it it's like hey like we can be this

00:57:51.659 --> 00:57:56.099
mainstream act but Here's what we're about. So

00:57:56.099 --> 00:58:02.800
Josie, 1997, Dude Ranch. I love it. And I'm going

00:58:02.800 --> 00:58:04.980
to follow that up. This is where it's going to

00:58:04.980 --> 00:58:08.739
get a little weird. But that drumbeat, as soon

00:58:08.739 --> 00:58:10.360
as I thought of it, I'm like, what do I want

00:58:10.360 --> 00:58:13.280
to come out of that song with? And I'm going

00:58:13.280 --> 00:58:16.219
to go with a song that really is going to be

00:58:16.219 --> 00:58:18.519
divisive amongst people listening to this episode.

00:58:18.960 --> 00:58:22.440
And when I say the band name. Everyone's going

00:58:22.440 --> 00:58:24.539
to immediately know that I'm not talking about

00:58:24.539 --> 00:58:28.480
the band that is currently selling out arenas

00:58:28.480 --> 00:58:32.800
because that version is the original Misfits

00:58:32.800 --> 00:58:36.219
with Glenn Danzig. But I am going to go with

00:58:36.219 --> 00:58:40.099
the Michael Graves era of the Misfits and the

00:58:40.099 --> 00:58:44.300
title track from 1997's American Psycho because

00:58:44.300 --> 00:58:50.480
that song uses straight up thrash metal blast

00:58:50.480 --> 00:58:54.900
beats. In a punk song. And then pivots. Into

00:58:54.900 --> 00:58:58.840
a whoa whoa sing along. Which is very punk rock.

00:58:59.099 --> 00:59:01.780
So it keeps teetering between. Is it punk is

00:59:01.780 --> 00:59:05.320
it metal. Is it punk is it metal. And to me the

00:59:05.320 --> 00:59:08.539
misfits of the 90s. The Michael Graves era. Is

00:59:08.539 --> 00:59:11.019
a completely different band. Than the Danzig

00:59:11.019 --> 00:59:13.739
fronted misfits. This was much more aggressive.

00:59:14.179 --> 00:59:17.480
Has a lot more hints of metal in it. But still

00:59:17.480 --> 00:59:21.559
carries that. Macabre nature of. the misfits

00:59:21.559 --> 00:59:25.099
into the lyrics, but musically, I don't know

00:59:25.099 --> 00:59:27.380
if I can hear Danzig singing these songs. It

00:59:27.380 --> 00:59:30.500
was a different band, but I'm just thinking drum

00:59:30.500 --> 00:59:34.320
wise coming out of Josie, that frantic drum beat

00:59:34.320 --> 00:59:36.559
that Travis Barker's playing. And then you pivot

00:59:36.559 --> 00:59:39.619
into American psycho and you get this blast beat.

00:59:39.679 --> 00:59:42.420
It's, it's a different song based on everything

00:59:42.420 --> 00:59:44.300
we've talked about tonight, but I feel like it

00:59:44.300 --> 00:59:46.940
has a spot here. I think so too. I agree with

00:59:46.940 --> 00:59:51.380
you. And misfits were, One of my first introductions

00:59:51.380 --> 00:59:55.760
to punk rock. I think it would be silly not to

00:59:55.760 --> 00:59:58.599
add them to the list. All right. And you are

00:59:58.599 --> 01:00:02.760
up now to follow Green Day, Blink -182, and the

01:00:02.760 --> 01:00:08.460
Misfits. Oh, boy. Okay. I'm going to go with

01:00:08.460 --> 01:00:12.739
a personal favorite. Underrated band. And they're

01:00:12.739 --> 01:00:15.360
still playing today. Completely underrated, in

01:00:15.360 --> 01:00:22.960
my opinion. I'm going to go... 1999, FTTW, H2O,

01:00:23.000 --> 01:00:27.800
the song One Life, One Chance. Nice! H2O was

01:00:27.800 --> 01:00:30.960
one of the first bands, one of the first very

01:00:30.960 --> 01:00:35.320
punk -leaning bands that their melodies are so

01:00:35.320 --> 01:00:38.820
fucking good, dude. Oh, yeah. Like, it's raw,

01:00:39.059 --> 01:00:43.780
it's heavy, but it's just so catchy. And I think

01:00:43.780 --> 01:00:47.199
that they are the... Perfect. Like perfectly

01:00:47.199 --> 01:00:50.119
encapsulate. Like when I tell someone like about

01:00:50.119 --> 01:00:53.260
Winona fighter and I was like, we're punk, but

01:00:53.260 --> 01:00:58.539
we have pop sensibility and we're punk pop. You

01:00:58.539 --> 01:01:01.239
know, I think, I think H2O fits in that category

01:01:01.239 --> 01:01:04.679
so well. And I think there's such like a cool

01:01:04.679 --> 01:01:08.940
inspiration for us. So, and Toby Morse is just

01:01:08.940 --> 01:01:12.199
bad -ass and seems like such a cool guy. I'm

01:01:12.199 --> 01:01:14.760
so glad that we're 70 episodes into this show.

01:01:14.860 --> 01:01:17.079
And now this marks the third time that we've

01:01:17.079 --> 01:01:20.360
talked about H2O on this show. I have talked

01:01:20.360 --> 01:01:22.719
about their cover of Like a Prayer on episode

01:01:22.719 --> 01:01:26.260
10, the 2000s punk rock playlist, as well as

01:01:26.260 --> 01:01:29.340
episode 26, the ultimate punk rock cover songs

01:01:29.340 --> 01:01:32.400
playlist. These guys bring a little bit of hardcore

01:01:32.400 --> 01:01:36.400
into their sound. But they blend it so effortlessly

01:01:36.400 --> 01:01:40.260
that they could play a hardcore show and a punk

01:01:40.260 --> 01:01:46.269
show. and fit in as if they were 100 % on either

01:01:46.269 --> 01:01:48.489
side of that spectrum. And that's what I love

01:01:48.489 --> 01:01:52.010
about H2O's music. Yeah. I think they're just

01:01:52.010 --> 01:01:54.530
such a special band where, as you said, I think

01:01:54.530 --> 01:01:57.309
they could stick them on any bill and they will

01:01:57.309 --> 01:02:00.590
rush it and they will fit right in. And I think

01:02:00.590 --> 01:02:05.090
that's like, that is a dream for any band is

01:02:05.090 --> 01:02:07.610
to be able to do that. And they do it so effortlessly.

01:02:08.510 --> 01:02:12.300
Amen. I'm going to lean into your mindset for

01:02:12.300 --> 01:02:13.820
your song pick there, because you went with a

01:02:13.820 --> 01:02:16.500
song that's one of your favorites. And I'm going

01:02:16.500 --> 01:02:19.480
to do the same. And I'm going to go with a band

01:02:19.480 --> 01:02:22.360
that also adds a little bit of that hardcore

01:02:22.360 --> 01:02:25.920
sound into the punk that they put together. And

01:02:25.920 --> 01:02:28.619
this is a song by a band that I have been a fan

01:02:28.619 --> 01:02:31.800
of since the 90s. And they're based out of New

01:02:31.800 --> 01:02:34.579
Jersey. I think they're criminally underrated.

01:02:35.150 --> 01:02:38.250
And the album I'm going to go from is actually

01:02:38.250 --> 01:02:40.789
not even available on Spotify. It was released

01:02:40.789 --> 01:02:44.050
on Earache Records in 1997. So I'm going to have

01:02:44.050 --> 01:02:47.409
to throw the YouTube video up on the episode

01:02:47.409 --> 01:02:50.030
page at myweeklymixtape .com. But the band I'm

01:02:50.030 --> 01:02:54.750
going with is called IDK, meaning the letters

01:02:54.750 --> 01:02:59.449
I period D period K period. And the song is called

01:02:59.449 --> 01:03:02.889
Fireman Song, and it's from 1997's Taking on

01:03:02.889 --> 01:03:06.650
the Monster. This group is, if you're from the

01:03:06.650 --> 01:03:08.949
New Jersey area and you're in the New Jersey

01:03:08.949 --> 01:03:11.090
punk scene, you are familiar with them. And they

01:03:11.090 --> 01:03:14.469
also have grown outside of the New Jersey area.

01:03:14.730 --> 01:03:17.590
And I feel like this group should have exploded.

01:03:17.650 --> 01:03:19.329
I was listening to this group when they were

01:03:19.329 --> 01:03:22.809
still putting out demos on cassette. And for

01:03:22.809 --> 01:03:25.190
anyone that doesn't know them, they do have some

01:03:25.190 --> 01:03:30.050
albums on streaming. 1996's EP, To Kill for the

01:03:30.050 --> 01:03:32.530
Good of the Fight, For the Right to Be Right.

01:03:33.190 --> 01:03:37.090
as well as 1998's Till Death Do Us Part. If you

01:03:37.090 --> 01:03:39.110
want to look them up on social, they're on Facebook

01:03:39.110 --> 01:03:46.530
at IDKNJ. That's all letters, IDKNJ. And I messaged

01:03:46.530 --> 01:03:50.590
the band on Facebook and word is, there's going

01:03:50.590 --> 01:03:52.590
to be some new music coming from them in 2024.

01:03:52.889 --> 01:03:55.630
So if you like what you hear on the episode page,

01:03:55.750 --> 01:03:59.809
be sure to check out IDK because like H2O, I

01:03:59.809 --> 01:04:02.760
think criminally underrated. Yeah, it's crazy

01:04:02.760 --> 01:04:07.559
to me how many phenomenal punk bands that could

01:04:07.559 --> 01:04:11.239
have been easily mainstream just flew under the

01:04:11.239 --> 01:04:15.920
radar. But I will go with a band that did not

01:04:15.920 --> 01:04:18.519
fly under the radar. And this one's going to

01:04:18.519 --> 01:04:21.539
be a hot take as to whether people think it's

01:04:21.539 --> 01:04:24.480
punk or not. Uh -oh. I think this is one of the

01:04:24.480 --> 01:04:30.489
most punk rock acts ever. I'm going... Beastie

01:04:30.489 --> 01:04:35.010
Boys Sabotage. Nice. 1994. The thing with punk

01:04:35.010 --> 01:04:37.809
music is I think it's such an umbrella. And I

01:04:37.809 --> 01:04:42.150
think it's so cool that, I mean, if I were to

01:04:42.150 --> 01:04:44.989
do a punk lineup and I put the Beastie Boys on

01:04:44.989 --> 01:04:48.329
there, they would fit right in. You can't tell

01:04:48.329 --> 01:04:50.489
me that it's like Beastie Boys, Rage Against

01:04:50.489 --> 01:04:53.030
the Machine. You can't tell me that those guys

01:04:53.030 --> 01:04:56.110
are not punk rock as fuck. And that is like a

01:04:56.110 --> 01:05:01.010
hill I will die on. Beastie Boys on my list and

01:05:01.010 --> 01:05:04.989
one of the greatest punk rock acts ever. If you've

01:05:04.989 --> 01:05:07.170
ever listened to the Some Old Bullshit album

01:05:07.170 --> 01:05:10.389
by Beastie Boys, there's no question that punk

01:05:10.389 --> 01:05:13.670
was always a part of their sound. Egg Raid on

01:05:13.670 --> 01:05:18.329
Mojo, Transit Cop, they pivoted to hip hop, but

01:05:18.329 --> 01:05:20.530
then still brought some of those elements throughout

01:05:20.530 --> 01:05:24.150
the years. And Sabotage might be one of my favorite.

01:05:24.730 --> 01:05:27.230
pump up songs of all time. Every time that song

01:05:27.230 --> 01:05:30.469
comes on, if I'm in a car driving, that car is

01:05:30.469 --> 01:05:33.130
going so much faster than it should. If I'm out

01:05:33.130 --> 01:05:36.750
for a run, I am throwing my back out. Like this

01:05:36.750 --> 01:05:40.210
song just makes you want to smash stuff. And

01:05:40.210 --> 01:05:44.610
it's done in such a way that even when they performed

01:05:44.610 --> 01:05:47.409
it live, they performed it on one of the late

01:05:47.409 --> 01:05:49.650
night TV shows. I want to say it was David Letterman.

01:05:49.960 --> 01:05:53.119
And they just blew the roof off the place. So

01:05:53.119 --> 01:05:57.840
I love that pick. And I am 100 % behind it. But

01:05:57.840 --> 01:06:02.800
following that up, hmm. All right. I don't know

01:06:02.800 --> 01:06:04.880
if this would be considered deep or not, but

01:06:04.880 --> 01:06:07.260
this is another one of those bands that I think

01:06:07.260 --> 01:06:10.659
they're definitely recognized within the punk

01:06:10.659 --> 01:06:14.900
scene. I'm just not sure how far beyond it they

01:06:14.900 --> 01:06:18.750
go in terms of name recognition. Okay. This song

01:06:18.750 --> 01:06:22.289
originally appeared on their 1992 debut album,

01:06:22.409 --> 01:06:26.170
Don't Turn Away. And it was remixed for a 1994

01:06:26.170 --> 01:06:30.449
EP called Over It. However, after the song started

01:06:30.449 --> 01:06:33.849
receiving radio airplay, their label asked them

01:06:33.849 --> 01:06:37.889
to re -record the song for 1995's Big Choice.

01:06:38.230 --> 01:06:41.829
And I'm going with Face to Face and Disconnected.

01:06:41.989 --> 01:06:45.090
Nice. This is the version of the song that was

01:06:45.090 --> 01:06:48.980
made into a music video. And that is how I discovered

01:06:48.980 --> 01:06:52.159
Face to Face. And it reached number 39 on the

01:06:52.159 --> 01:06:54.260
Billboard Modern Rock Tracks chart. So it's not

01:06:54.260 --> 01:06:56.860
like a massive hit, but it put them into the

01:06:56.860 --> 01:06:59.900
mainstream. So much so that they were asked to

01:06:59.900 --> 01:07:02.960
be on the Saturday Morning Cartoons compilation,

01:07:03.079 --> 01:07:06.059
which is one of my favorite compilations of the

01:07:06.059 --> 01:07:10.019
90s. And they did a kick -ass version of, I don't

01:07:10.019 --> 01:07:13.219
care, yes, kick -ass version of Popeye the Sailor

01:07:13.219 --> 01:07:17.909
Man. I love this band so much. They are punk

01:07:17.909 --> 01:07:21.349
to their core. And on the same album, following

01:07:21.349 --> 01:07:23.929
up Disconnected, the thing I love about the version

01:07:23.929 --> 01:07:26.449
on Big Choice is there's a hidden track right

01:07:26.449 --> 01:07:28.610
before Disconnected. And it's about a minute

01:07:28.610 --> 01:07:31.630
and a half of the band explaining why they don't

01:07:31.630 --> 01:07:33.909
want to rerecord Disconnected. And then boom,

01:07:33.949 --> 01:07:36.409
it just goes into their new version of it. I

01:07:36.409 --> 01:07:38.889
think it's brilliant. And then following that

01:07:38.889 --> 01:07:42.949
was a cover of The Descendants' Bikage, which...

01:07:43.369 --> 01:07:45.190
We talked about our love for the Descendants

01:07:45.190 --> 01:07:50.190
on Side A. When Face to Face covered the Descendants

01:07:50.190 --> 01:07:53.130
on this album, I was like, these guys are speaking

01:07:53.130 --> 01:07:56.369
my punk rock language. And they've done so much

01:07:56.369 --> 01:07:59.429
over that course of the 90s that I feel like

01:07:59.429 --> 01:08:02.889
gets overshadowed and overlooked by the bands

01:08:02.889 --> 01:08:05.349
like the Green Days and the Blink -182 that I

01:08:05.349 --> 01:08:07.869
would be upset if Face to Face wasn't in this

01:08:07.869 --> 01:08:10.570
discussion at some point. Yeah, I think that's

01:08:10.570 --> 01:08:12.920
a great pick. And I think like, In this playlist,

01:08:13.039 --> 01:08:16.819
we could do the Green Day, Blink -182, Weezer,

01:08:16.859 --> 01:08:19.260
if you'd even consider that, all day long. But

01:08:19.260 --> 01:08:22.140
I think the cool thing is all of these bands

01:08:22.140 --> 01:08:26.880
that you know inspired what are now some of the

01:08:26.880 --> 01:08:31.479
biggest punk rock bands ever. So I think that's

01:08:31.479 --> 01:08:37.899
a great choice, and I fully approve of it. So

01:08:37.899 --> 01:08:43.640
I think I... We'll follow that with, oh man,

01:08:43.819 --> 01:08:46.539
you know what? I'm going to go just a classic.

01:08:46.939 --> 01:08:49.220
I'm going to go classic. I'm going to go with

01:08:49.220 --> 01:08:54.100
Cannonball by The Breeders. Nice. That song and

01:08:54.100 --> 01:08:57.920
that band, again, was one of my first introductions

01:08:57.920 --> 01:09:02.979
to punk rock or heavy alternative. I think they're

01:09:02.979 --> 01:09:06.720
badass. I think that they have such a unique

01:09:06.720 --> 01:09:10.939
sound to them too. I think they were really inspiring

01:09:10.939 --> 01:09:14.159
in the way that you don't have to be cookie cutter.

01:09:14.500 --> 01:09:17.579
And they were definitely part of an era where

01:09:17.579 --> 01:09:21.079
you were getting a lot of the same stuff, but

01:09:21.079 --> 01:09:24.699
they definitely stepped outside the box and I

01:09:24.699 --> 01:09:27.979
think could be considered a big influence for

01:09:27.979 --> 01:09:31.159
us. But I'm going Cannonball because I think

01:09:31.159 --> 01:09:33.119
if you're going to listen to the Breeders, if

01:09:33.119 --> 01:09:35.039
you're going to get into them, start with that

01:09:35.039 --> 01:09:38.500
song. As a bass player, of course, that bass

01:09:38.500 --> 01:09:40.579
line just puts a smile on my face every time

01:09:40.579 --> 01:09:43.520
I hear it. We've talked about that song on several

01:09:43.520 --> 01:09:46.300
episodes of the show, including episode three,

01:09:46.420 --> 01:09:50.500
The Ultimate Songs of 1993, and episode 17, The

01:09:50.500 --> 01:09:53.239
Ultimate 90s Indie Alternative Playlist. Anytime

01:09:53.239 --> 01:09:56.399
I get the chance to talk about the incredible

01:09:56.399 --> 01:10:01.220
Deal Sisters, I'm all in. That song just immediately

01:10:01.220 --> 01:10:04.479
captivated me, and the Breeders are influential.

01:10:05.739 --> 01:10:08.380
There was a time in 1993 where you were getting

01:10:08.380 --> 01:10:12.020
bands like the Breeders and the Muffs that were

01:10:12.020 --> 01:10:15.779
bringing these strong female vocalists to the

01:10:15.779 --> 01:10:19.239
table. And I brought up the Muffs because I think

01:10:19.239 --> 01:10:21.720
about how sad I am that Kim Shattuck is no longer

01:10:21.720 --> 01:10:25.260
with us. But like these iconic voices that paved

01:10:25.260 --> 01:10:27.720
the way for groups like Veruca Salt to come along

01:10:27.720 --> 01:10:30.420
and continue that and groups like Winona Fighter.

01:10:31.020 --> 01:10:34.159
There's a door that got opened. With these groups

01:10:34.159 --> 01:10:36.619
that had these punk stylings, but with a female

01:10:36.619 --> 01:10:39.779
vocalist. And I feel like that part of the genre

01:10:39.779 --> 01:10:42.779
didn't get explored enough. And I'm so thankful

01:10:42.779 --> 01:10:45.340
for groups like the Breeders and the Muffs that

01:10:45.340 --> 01:10:49.220
kind of made it more mainstream and more digestible.

01:10:49.260 --> 01:10:52.100
So that way, a group like, and I know it's a

01:10:52.100 --> 01:10:54.399
little bit of a different sound, but a group

01:10:54.399 --> 01:10:57.840
like No Doubt can come out of the Orange County

01:10:57.840 --> 01:11:00.779
ska scene and explode to one of the biggest bands

01:11:00.779 --> 01:11:03.850
on the planet. I agree. And back to your point

01:11:03.850 --> 01:11:07.909
about how, I mean, her voice is just so unique.

01:11:07.989 --> 01:11:11.489
That was really important to me when I was starting

01:11:11.489 --> 01:11:14.689
to sing in bands and stuff, because like, I don't

01:11:14.689 --> 01:11:18.350
have this classic voice. I don't have this polished,

01:11:18.550 --> 01:11:23.829
pretty voice. And it's so cool to listen to another

01:11:23.829 --> 01:11:27.770
woman who is rocking out and doing it and not

01:11:27.770 --> 01:11:30.939
have this pretty polished. classically trained

01:11:30.939 --> 01:11:33.819
voice it's unique it's awesome and I feel like

01:11:33.819 --> 01:11:36.140
right now in punk rock there are a lot of like

01:11:36.140 --> 01:11:40.680
super talented female front women who do have

01:11:40.680 --> 01:11:44.579
that just like clean and nice and I'm gonna hit

01:11:44.579 --> 01:11:49.000
all the the high notes and do all the runs and

01:11:49.000 --> 01:11:51.840
it can be intimidating for someone like me who

01:11:51.840 --> 01:11:55.060
doesn't have that type of voice so looking back

01:11:55.060 --> 01:11:58.479
in the 90s and getting to be inspired by women

01:11:58.479 --> 01:12:01.119
in those these bands the breeders baby in toyland

01:12:01.119 --> 01:12:04.680
i think it's it's awesome wow well following

01:12:04.680 --> 01:12:09.060
that up i only have one song left and we have

01:12:09.060 --> 01:12:11.779
talked a lot over this episode about cover songs

01:12:11.779 --> 01:12:16.560
and i would be remiss if i didn't include one

01:12:16.560 --> 01:12:20.539
of my favorite albums of the 90s, period, hard

01:12:20.539 --> 01:12:23.380
stop, hands down, because I've always been a

01:12:23.380 --> 01:12:26.199
cover song fanatic. I talk about covers all the

01:12:26.199 --> 01:12:28.260
time on the show. When people talk about cover

01:12:28.260 --> 01:12:30.539
songs, I'm like, oh, have you heard this band's

01:12:30.539 --> 01:12:32.439
version and that band's version? Because there's

01:12:32.439 --> 01:12:35.180
something being a musician myself, I always love

01:12:35.180 --> 01:12:39.239
to hear how a musician puts their stamp on someone

01:12:39.239 --> 01:12:43.199
else's art and makes it their own. And a band

01:12:43.199 --> 01:12:46.319
that I discovered at that same record shop in

01:12:46.319 --> 01:12:49.460
Kearney, New Jersey. was Me First and the Gimme

01:12:49.460 --> 01:12:52.739
Gimmes. And this is a group that was made up

01:12:52.739 --> 01:12:54.779
of some people we've talked about tonight. Fat

01:12:54.779 --> 01:12:58.640
Mike, No Effects. You have a guy named Chris

01:12:58.640 --> 01:13:01.020
Shifflett. While we didn't mention him by name,

01:13:01.140 --> 01:13:05.000
he is a member of the Foo Fighters. And Me First

01:13:05.000 --> 01:13:07.439
and the Gimme Gimmes put out an album in 1997

01:13:07.439 --> 01:13:11.819
that blew my mind. It was called Have a Ball

01:13:11.819 --> 01:13:15.529
Plus Bowling Tips from the Gutter Punks. And

01:13:15.529 --> 01:13:18.229
the opening track on it was a cover of Loggins

01:13:18.229 --> 01:13:21.649
and Messina's Danny's Song. Anyone that knows

01:13:21.649 --> 01:13:24.649
the Yacht Rock song Danny's Song pictures this

01:13:24.649 --> 01:13:28.630
beautiful folky ballad with nice harmonies. The

01:13:28.630 --> 01:13:30.569
first time you hear Me First and the Gimme Gimme's

01:13:30.569 --> 01:13:33.890
version, you're like, whoa, these guys turned

01:13:33.890 --> 01:13:37.630
this into a punk song. And immediately they blew

01:13:37.630 --> 01:13:40.409
my mind because they took a song that my parents

01:13:40.409 --> 01:13:43.170
would listen to and made it into something that

01:13:43.170 --> 01:13:46.510
psychs me up. And the entire album does that,

01:13:46.569 --> 01:13:49.670
doing stuff like Uptown Girl by Billy Joel, Sweet

01:13:49.670 --> 01:13:53.109
Caroline by Neil Diamond, Fire and Rain by James

01:13:53.109 --> 01:13:56.789
Taylor, Rocketman by Elton John. These guys took

01:13:56.789 --> 01:14:01.550
my parents' musical discography and spoke to

01:14:01.550 --> 01:14:05.210
my generation with it. And to me, I love cover

01:14:05.210 --> 01:14:08.609
songs so much that I had to somehow introduce

01:14:08.609 --> 01:14:11.970
them into this episode. And if I'm going Me First

01:14:11.970 --> 01:14:13.750
and the Gimme Gimmes, Danny's song is the perfect

01:14:13.750 --> 01:14:16.600
place to go. I love that. I think that's a great

01:14:16.600 --> 01:14:19.680
pick. I think that's a great way to kind of like

01:14:19.680 --> 01:14:23.560
lead us out. And I'm going to end it on a very

01:14:23.560 --> 01:14:27.619
Winona Fyre note as to why we do covers is to

01:14:27.619 --> 01:14:30.619
so people can sing along. People have something

01:14:30.619 --> 01:14:34.680
familiar. And it's just like, so I'm going to

01:14:34.680 --> 01:14:37.819
end with a sing along. I started with a sing

01:14:37.819 --> 01:14:41.000
along. I'm going to end with one. I'm going Fly

01:14:41.000 --> 01:14:46.539
Pulsida. by Harvey Danger, 1997. If someone gets

01:14:46.539 --> 01:14:49.359
through our whole playlist and they know nothing

01:14:49.359 --> 01:14:53.220
about punk, ending it on this song, it's a nice

01:14:53.220 --> 01:14:56.560
little palate cleanser. Everyone knows it. Even

01:14:56.560 --> 01:14:58.380
if you think you don't know it, you know it.

01:14:58.739 --> 01:15:01.720
I love this song. And that's really all I can

01:15:01.720 --> 01:15:04.939
say is that I just fucking love this song. Couldn't

01:15:04.939 --> 01:15:07.579
agree more. 1997's Where Have All The Merrymakers

01:15:07.579 --> 01:15:11.750
Gone. This song was actually, here's a stupid

01:15:11.750 --> 01:15:14.430
fact. I don't know why I know, but I do because

01:15:14.430 --> 01:15:17.289
I'm just a big nerd. This was actually featured

01:15:17.289 --> 01:15:22.270
on the now one, the now one compilation of the

01:15:22.270 --> 01:15:26.170
U S one. Like we are at how now what? Like now

01:15:26.170 --> 01:15:29.770
a hundred and million number one flagpole SIDA.

01:15:29.890 --> 01:15:32.869
And this song is literally every time I've gone

01:15:32.869 --> 01:15:34.789
to see a cover band in the last 20 something

01:15:34.789 --> 01:15:37.729
years, they play this and everybody in the room.

01:15:38.320 --> 01:15:40.899
just lights up with happiness and joy. And it's

01:15:40.899 --> 01:15:43.439
one of those songs that just puts a smile on

01:15:43.439 --> 01:15:45.779
people's faces. And sometimes there's nothing

01:15:45.779 --> 01:15:47.939
more punk rock than that as far as I'm concerned.

01:15:48.220 --> 01:15:51.699
I agree. There you have it, folks. Side B of

01:15:51.699 --> 01:15:54.279
our ultimate 90s punk rock mixtape, which kicked

01:15:54.279 --> 01:15:57.500
off with Green Day's J .A .R., Jason Andrew Relva,

01:15:57.600 --> 01:16:01.380
Blink -182's Josie. Misfits, American Psycho,

01:16:01.420 --> 01:16:05.859
H2O's One Life, One Chance, IDK's Fireman Song,

01:16:06.319 --> 01:16:10.220
Beastie Boys, Sabotage, Face to Face, Disconnected,

01:16:10.300 --> 01:16:13.239
The Breeders, Cannonball, Me First and the Gimme

01:16:13.239 --> 01:16:16.659
Gimme's Danny Song, and Harvey Danger's Flagpole

01:16:16.659 --> 01:16:19.680
Sitta. Head over to myweeklymixtape .com to hear

01:16:19.680 --> 01:16:22.579
all the songs we've discussed in this mix through

01:16:22.579 --> 01:16:26.100
the playlist embedded on the episode page. Now,

01:16:26.100 --> 01:16:29.340
Coco, the band has some massive... Festival shows

01:16:29.340 --> 01:16:31.680
coming up this summer, including appearances

01:16:31.680 --> 01:16:35.600
at Ocean's Calling, Louder Than Life, and Aftershock,

01:16:35.600 --> 01:16:38.600
among others. Along with those big festivals,

01:16:38.899 --> 01:16:42.439
what does the rest of 2024 have in store for

01:16:42.439 --> 01:16:45.220
Winona Fighter in terms of touring and new music?

01:16:45.939 --> 01:16:49.060
We're finishing up our tour of Bayside in May

01:16:49.060 --> 01:16:52.159
and then playing Shaky Knees. Otherwise, we're

01:16:52.159 --> 01:16:54.340
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