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Hi, this is Todd Parkmore with Big Hit Todd and

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the Monsters, and you're listening to my weekly

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mixtape with Brian Colbert, and we just finished

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incredible discussions about some of our favorite

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songs of Big Hit Todd and the Monsters, and hopefully

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you'll be intrigued. Welcome to My Weekly Mixtape,

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a podcast that takes the classic mixtape approach

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to building a modern playlist. I'm your host,

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Brian Colburn. Joining me tonight as guest curator

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is Todd Parkmore, lead vocalist and multi -instrumentalist

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for Big Head Todd and the Monsters. Todd, thank

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you so much for joining me on My Weekly Mixtape.

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Yeah, my pleasure. Thanks for having me. I'd

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like to start by asking you the same question

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I ask all of my first -time guests, and that's,

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What does the word mixtape mean to you? That

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means a cassette tape that is designed to impress

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a girl, as it means me. Well, tonight we're going

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to be trying to impress a lot of people with

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our mixtape because we're going to create the

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ultimate Big Head Todd and the Monsters mixtape

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together. Me from a fan perspective and you from...

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Well, the artist who writes all of the songs.

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My question for you is, how hard is it? Because

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you guys do this on a nightly basis with your

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set lists. How hard is it to cull down 35 years

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of music into something that's a little shorter

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and digestible? Well, it's not as hard as you

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think, because over those years, we learned what

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works and what doesn't. And people have favorites.

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We notice that certain songs, you know, push

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buttons and are useful in certain ways. But having

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said that, we have a lot of variety in our sets.

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I write a different set every night, and we usually

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include the predictable hits and successful songs

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of ours, but also, you know, things that are

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my favorites or stuff that I haven't heard in

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a while. You know, we try to keep it fresh for

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the band. That's really important. So I feel

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good about having a lot of music to choose from.

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Well, let's get down to business. Tonight, as

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I mentioned at the top of the show, Todd and

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I will be creating the ultimate Big Head Todd

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and the Monsters mixtape, and we'll use the old

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cassette deck approach. Todd, as my special guest,

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will begin Side A with his first song choice,

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and then I'll add a song that I feel best follows

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up that choice. We'll then flip -flop choosing

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songs until we've mapped out 10 songs for Side

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A. We'll then give our mixtape a proverbial flip

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and we'll map outside. Be only this time, I'll

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kick things off with Todd choosing second. Our

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overall goal for the episode is to craft the

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best Big Head Todd and the Monsters mixtape possible

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through only 20 songs. At the end of the show,

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you can take our conversation to the next level

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by visiting the episode page at myweeklymixtape

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.com to give our final mixtape a listen via the

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embedded playlist. And if you like what you're

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myweeklymixtape. And with that, Todd, I'm officially

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pressing the record button on our mixtape and

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the floor is yours. What song are you choosing

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to kick off side A? Whoa. Well, I like to choose

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a song called Thunderbird. And it's a new song

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of ours, and we'll get it to you so you can play

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it. But it's upcoming on our new release, which

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is called Her Way Out. It'll be coming in the

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end of May or the beginning of June, somewhere

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right around there. And this is the first song

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that I wrote for that album. And the way that

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it came about was during COVID, I got to watch

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a lot of movies since we were playing shows.

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I found out that it's a really great way to write

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songs. You know, Springsteen has this very cinematic

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thing going on in his songs, and cinema itself

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is pretty interesting because there's a story

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that's really important that's rich with a lot

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of dialogue. So Thunderbird is about the movie

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American Graffiti. If you recall, there's a white

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Thunderbird and this beautiful old lady that's

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driving it, and everybody's chasing her around

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through the whole movie. But, you know, I just

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watched the movie and just kind of take with

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my notepad. And and that's how it went down.

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All right. We have an absolute first happening

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here on my weekly mixtape. I am going to, thanks

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to Todd, premiere the song Thunderbird for you

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right now. And you're hearing it for the first

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time. As am I. This is really cool. Let's check

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it out. The first thing I'm going to say is my

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first impressions, I 100 % see why we're kicking

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off tonight's playlist with that song. It absolutely

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rocks. I love it. Nice. Man, we are kicking off

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2024 in style. And I get to follow up a brand

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new song. So what I'm going to do is play Counterbalance

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to Thunderbird. And I'm going to go all the way

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back to 1993. And I loved her yet. She Has Done

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Me Wrong, the opening track to Sister Sweetly,

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Broken Hearted Savior. This song has meant so

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much to me over the years. It's just such a brilliantly

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written tune. And it's the first song that introduced

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a lot of people to the band because it was the

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first song on your major label debut. So people

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putting in that CD for the first time, that's

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their introduction. Could you talk about the

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longevity of this song as well as Sister Sweetly

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as a whole? Because last year it turned 30 years

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old. Yeah. Well, yeah. Broken Heart Savior, as

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you said, is the first song on that album. We

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still play it every single night. It's probably

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our most popular rock song. It's my favorite

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rock song to play of ours. And I would say the

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success of that album, Sister Sweetly, I think

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it came out in 1993. really a special thing because

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i'm still proud of the record i still think it's

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a really great record and we still love playing

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all the all that material but to have fans have

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it be their favorite record or an important part

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of their life i mean that's an honor for us uh

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it's been a really great life for me to play

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that record over the last you know couple decades

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or whatever Has there ever been a moment where

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you said, let's try to leave that one out of

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the set? Or was that never a question? Um, not

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really. You know, I had my Dylan era maybe where,

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you know, we kind of like tried to zig and zag

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my way out of stuff that I thought was overplayed.

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But people pay money to get the pleasure of hearing

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their favorite songs. And it's really important,

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I think, to honor that. Well, following that

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up, the floor is now yours for track three. All

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right. Well, track three, I'm going to choose

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a song called Crazy Mary off of Beautiful World.

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And it's one of my favorite songs. I had it sort

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of in my pocket when producer Jerry Harrison

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was interested in recording the band. And I think

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it was a song that really got to him and convinced

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him that I have to produce this band. And I just.

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Again, we still love playing it to this day.

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It just has a calm to it that I really like.

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And I love the solo section and I love the lyric,

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which is just about maybe a less fortunate person.

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Somebody who's had a hard time and who needs

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an understanding person and an understanding

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ear, let's say. By all means, that is a... Beautifully

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ethereal song. I absolutely love the guitar work

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on it. I actually hearken back to the 2004 Live

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at the Fillmore DVD and CD set that there's a

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version on that that just has it's just fraught

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with emotion. And you could feel it coming out

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of the speakers. Obviously, the studio version

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is amazing as well. But thankfully, with Big

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Head Todd and the Monsters, there's also a lot

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of live albums to choose from. And while I'm

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talking about that 2004 album, that was for a

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tour of one of my personal favorite Big Head

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Todd and the Monsters albums, Crimes of Passion.

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So I'm going to follow up Crazy Mary with a track

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from that. And this is tough because I love this

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album. keep the vibe slow and go with Angela

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danger love. Cause that kind of keeps that vibe

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going. I could kind of go with that dirty blues

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groove of love transmission, but I feel like

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I want to pivot the vibe to just something down

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and dirty. And it's, it's in the name dirty juice.

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Okay. I mean, the song itself, the name is perfect.

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The dirty riff that's in this song carries you

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through. It's got a massive hook. The song really

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kicks off the album with authority. And now looking

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back, with 20 years of hindsight, two decades,

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do you still feel the same way about this album

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as when you guys first released it? Because as

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a fan, I still love this album. I appreciate

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that. Yeah, you know, it has some favorites for

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me. Imaginary Ships. Yes, yes. And yeah, I mean,

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there's a lushness to it. And there's a lot of

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sort of spacier kind of songs to it. And yeah,

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it's one of my favorites. And Dirty Juice, by

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the way, we still love playing. We play it almost

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every night. So we call it the hoedown. Because

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it's just got this kind of really solid blues

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beat to it. So I guess this next step won't be

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that complicated for you because the song is

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in your set list quite often. What song are you

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going to choose to follow up Dirty Juice for

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track five? Well, I'm going to choose Tower.

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Nice. Which I think it's on Beautiful World.

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Yes, that's correct. And it's got a Curtis Mayfield

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thing going on. It's a really great lyric. Walking

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around the Tower of Love and rain coming down.

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It's just got something that is a really moody

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soul song. Love the pick. Love the album. Beautiful

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World to me is an album that almost like a movie,

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like you said, there's a lot of different scenes

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in the album because you go from a song like

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Crazy Mary, which is really. Like Ethereal, like

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I had mentioned before. And then you've got Tower,

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but then you go into kind of the bluesier side

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of things with your cover of Boom Boom, which

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maybe we'll talk about at some point tonight.

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Yeah. But that album as a whole feels like you're

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telling a story through kind of different chapters

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as you go through the album. Nice. Can you bring

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us back to that album cycle and put us in the

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mindset of the band at that time? Well, that

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particular period for us was really nice. One

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of the things that was special about it was working

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with Jerry Harrison. We recorded it at the plant

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in Sausalito, which Fleetwood Mac, all kinds

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of people, is a really legendary place. And just

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to be there in that timeframe of our career,

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Bernie Worrell played on that album. Obviously,

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John Lee Hooker played on it. So it was an incredible

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session. And I'm proud of every song on it. Well,

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I think I'm going to throw a little loop now

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and go with something a little different because

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this is the first time I get to talk about my

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favorite songs from you. So I'm bouncing around

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from every album I can. And I'm going to go to

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2002's Riviera for this one. I'm going to go

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with a song that I think has such a ridiculously

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powerful hook. I am shocked the song wasn't a

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massive, massive hit. And it's the album opener,

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Juliana. I mean, it's an absolute highlight for

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me. And it's something that I've already chosen

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several album openers tonight. And that's something

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I want to touch on because every time I've purchased

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a Big Head Todd CD over the years that I'm sitting

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here holding my stack of them, I always know

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when I put it into the CD player, the first song

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I hear is going to grab my attention. And I feel

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like that's something that in the day of streaming

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and in digital media, that goes kind of out the

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door now. People don't think of really hooking

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people with that opening song. And is that something

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that you guys cognitively think about when you're

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putting together a new album, say, Her Way Out?

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Sure. It's really important. You know, if you

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don't like the first song, you probably won't

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listen to much more of the album. If you're going

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to bother with an album, you better start strong

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and then move on from there. That's the traditional

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logic is always to do that. And Julianna, I agree

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with you. I think that song should have been

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bigger too. I love that song. And I think it's

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a great pop rock song. By all means. Now we are

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back to you for track seven. Okay. If I could

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zag, I will. And I know that you are aware of

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this because of the mega fan you are, but I am

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such great. opportunity to learn about blues

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music through two projects that we did under

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the moniker of big hit blues club yes and uh

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one of them was uh it was a tribute to willie

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dixon and the track is called sit and cry on

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the blues the coolest thing about this song to

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me aside from it's really got a very unusual

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middle section is buddy guy recorded it And I

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got to play it for Buddy Guy at Buddy Guy Day

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in Chicago when he was celebrated, I think in

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the early 2000s. So that's a special song to

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me. So I have to ask, the Big Head Blues Club,

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obviously you're diving much, much deeper into

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the blues than you would on a Big Head Todd album

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and bringing in a lot of guests. Was there a

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reason to not just continue calling it Big Head

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Todd and the Monsters? Were you trying to purposely

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show the difference between the two? Yes. The

00:15:56.259 --> 00:15:59.980
whole project was sort of conceived as our band

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being a rhythm section for great living blues

00:16:05.120 --> 00:16:08.820
artists that probably were slightly under -celebrated.

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And at the time when it began, we were sort of

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the rock -pop thing that would... Help bring

00:16:16.330 --> 00:16:20.210
people in. And the tours were in performing arts

00:16:20.210 --> 00:16:25.970
centers all over the country. And we did want

00:16:25.970 --> 00:16:28.289
to differentiate it because it's a blues project

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with a very expanded band. We had two drummers

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for a lot of it. And so it was a really different

00:16:36.470 --> 00:16:39.330
project. But what it did for us is it enabled

00:16:39.330 --> 00:16:44.809
us to meet blues legends that I'd always adored.

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to work with them and to learn what's going on.

00:16:48.669 --> 00:16:50.870
Luther Dickinson of the Mississippi all -stars

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told me something about this sort of thing that

00:16:54.549 --> 00:16:56.769
always resonated with me. He said, yep, blues

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is the kind of thing you have to learn from somebody.

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Like you need to have a flesh and blood connection

00:17:03.009 --> 00:17:08.089
to somebody to really get it. And not that I

00:17:08.089 --> 00:17:11.869
got it, but I, I got a long way into it for sure.

00:17:12.690 --> 00:17:16.859
And did those projects, color the way you guys

00:17:16.859 --> 00:17:22.200
wrote music in the album's following? Yeah. To

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me, what's special about blues is that it's a

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tradition. And the point of it is to honor the

00:17:29.220 --> 00:17:32.380
mentors in a way and to carry the tradition through.

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It isn't about, oh, I'm such a great songwriter.

00:17:36.180 --> 00:17:39.559
I've got all these novel ideas. It's more about

00:17:39.559 --> 00:17:44.900
honoring the past and bringing it forward. And

00:17:44.900 --> 00:17:49.759
that feel in songwriting, it just really got

00:17:49.759 --> 00:17:52.480
to me. And the more that I studied the lyrics,

00:17:52.539 --> 00:17:55.299
especially Robert Johnson, Robert Johnson lyrics

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are vicious. Yep. Yeah. Are incredibly great.

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They're poignant and they're poetic. And there's

00:18:03.579 --> 00:18:06.839
a lot of imagery that it's just striking in it.

00:18:06.980 --> 00:18:10.099
So I learned a great deal from, from doing both

00:18:10.099 --> 00:18:13.730
of those. Well, following that up. I'm going

00:18:13.730 --> 00:18:16.890
to go with an album that the band did a very

00:18:16.890 --> 00:18:20.210
unique rollout for. And it's one that I'll never

00:18:20.210 --> 00:18:25.849
forget. In 2007, the band released an album,

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All the Love You Need. And the album was actually

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paid for and mailed out for free by various sponsors.

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And that is how I got my initial copy of the

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album. Wow. And the first song on that album

00:18:41.000 --> 00:18:43.380
follows where you went with the Big Head Blues

00:18:43.380 --> 00:18:46.140
Club because there's this dirty slide guitar

00:18:46.140 --> 00:18:49.200
on it that I absolutely gravitate to. And the

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track is Her Own Kind of Woman. Yeah. My question

00:18:52.359 --> 00:18:55.440
about that album was that was a very different

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way to bring music to the world. And this was

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happening around 2007. Streaming was not there

00:19:01.420 --> 00:19:04.880
at this point. This was only downloads and iTunes

00:19:04.880 --> 00:19:07.759
and everything else. What was the idea behind

00:19:07.759 --> 00:19:11.440
that approach? Well, I think that was a time,

00:19:11.480 --> 00:19:13.180
as you said, it was sort of in the middle of

00:19:13.180 --> 00:19:17.019
things. CDs were sort of less important. Other

00:19:17.019 --> 00:19:19.319
things were coming in. Napster, if you recall.

00:19:19.680 --> 00:19:23.160
Yep. But nothing was really firm. And we've always

00:19:23.160 --> 00:19:26.160
kind of struggled with the business model and

00:19:26.160 --> 00:19:28.240
with labels and all that. That's always been

00:19:28.240 --> 00:19:31.880
hard for us. But we basically just want to get

00:19:31.880 --> 00:19:35.359
our music to people. desperate as it may sound

00:19:35.359 --> 00:19:38.779
you got it for free and that worked out so um

00:19:38.779 --> 00:19:41.299
i'm glad that you did and by the way that album

00:19:41.299 --> 00:19:44.880
was produced by david bianco oh yeah who uh i

00:19:44.880 --> 00:19:47.839
think he produced petty's wildflowers yeah he's

00:19:47.839 --> 00:19:51.579
a great producer and uh had a lot uh to offer

00:19:51.579 --> 00:19:54.200
that album one of the things i noticed right

00:19:54.200 --> 00:19:57.039
from the jump in her own kind of woman was a

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full horn section yeah Is that something that

00:20:00.180 --> 00:20:02.359
you guys have worked with a lot over the years

00:20:02.359 --> 00:20:05.099
or wanted to? Because it was seamless in the

00:20:05.099 --> 00:20:07.279
song. It felt like you've always been doing it.

00:20:08.019 --> 00:20:12.259
You're sweet. Yeah, we flirted with it. And I

00:20:12.259 --> 00:20:15.579
love horn sections. I'm a huge Tower of Power

00:20:15.579 --> 00:20:18.759
fan. I love rhythm and blues and I love horns.

00:20:19.000 --> 00:20:25.259
I play sax and horns are really hard. It's hard

00:20:25.259 --> 00:20:30.250
to go on the road with horns. to Mike horns and

00:20:30.250 --> 00:20:33.569
horn players. You got to have them a bunch of

00:20:33.569 --> 00:20:37.210
them to pull it off. And so we, we do it every

00:20:37.210 --> 00:20:39.950
blue moon and it's worth doing it. And we will

00:20:39.950 --> 00:20:42.710
do it again, but it's not part of our regular

00:20:42.710 --> 00:20:46.130
system. Yeah. Her own kind of woman gives me

00:20:46.130 --> 00:20:50.170
almost a Rolling Stones exile on main street

00:20:50.170 --> 00:20:53.609
rocks off kind of vibe with the horns there.

00:20:53.650 --> 00:20:56.319
And it's just so unique. to have that kind of

00:20:56.319 --> 00:20:58.680
come out of the blue in an album. And it just,

00:20:58.759 --> 00:21:01.400
it was so seamless. It works so well. Thank you.

00:21:01.740 --> 00:21:04.079
Well, following that up, we're back to you for

00:21:04.079 --> 00:21:07.200
track nine. Okay. Let me get my list going here

00:21:07.200 --> 00:21:11.220
because you've thrown me some curve balls, but

00:21:11.220 --> 00:21:14.599
I'm going to throw you one. Okay. And this song

00:21:14.599 --> 00:21:20.960
is called Long Cold Train. And it is, I can't

00:21:20.960 --> 00:21:23.259
recall if it's on an album. I thought that was

00:21:23.259 --> 00:21:26.849
on New World Horizon. It is. It is. It's on New

00:21:26.849 --> 00:21:30.730
World Horizon. Thank you. But ironically, somehow

00:21:30.730 --> 00:21:34.849
on Spotify, it's in our top 10. And you wouldn't

00:21:34.849 --> 00:21:37.509
think that because it seems like kind of an out

00:21:37.509 --> 00:21:41.309
of the way song for us. I think it got on a really

00:21:41.309 --> 00:21:44.390
popular playlist and became popular through that.

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But regardless, because of that, we've been playing

00:21:47.349 --> 00:21:50.509
it again. And it's got some mojo. Check it out.

00:21:51.150 --> 00:21:53.470
Oh, it's a great tune. The whole album is fantastic.

00:21:53.950 --> 00:21:56.250
I'd be lying if I said that there might not be

00:21:56.250 --> 00:21:58.670
another song from New World to Rise and Coming

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Down the Pike. Okay. All right. Well, you started

00:22:02.710 --> 00:22:07.490
Side A with a song from Her Way Out. And I think

00:22:07.490 --> 00:22:11.529
I'm going to answer by closing Side A with another

00:22:11.529 --> 00:22:15.589
song from Her Way Out. And I am going to go with

00:22:15.589 --> 00:22:27.619
the lead single Crush. listening hallelujah I

00:22:27.619 --> 00:23:15.839
don't hear no echo but it sure Now, you've said

00:23:15.839 --> 00:23:18.559
that this song is about how we're formed by our

00:23:18.559 --> 00:23:22.500
past and the voices that influence us for good

00:23:22.500 --> 00:23:25.640
or for not. I'd love for you to elaborate on

00:23:25.640 --> 00:23:28.180
that because that's a really interesting concept.

00:23:31.319 --> 00:23:35.240
Well, I think that, you know, especially children,

00:23:35.500 --> 00:23:38.759
we are raised oftentimes with messages that are

00:23:38.759 --> 00:23:41.759
self -defeating or that prevent us from reaching

00:23:41.759 --> 00:23:46.839
our potential. A lot of times through relationships

00:23:46.839 --> 00:23:51.859
on every level and in politics, in society, there's

00:23:51.859 --> 00:23:56.200
a lot of lying. And I really feel strongly that

00:23:56.200 --> 00:23:59.720
when you lie to me about something, you've robbed

00:23:59.720 --> 00:24:03.160
me of my freedom. Like if I tell you you're free

00:24:03.160 --> 00:24:05.240
to choose between these two apples and I lie

00:24:05.240 --> 00:24:07.160
to you to tell you there's a worm in one that

00:24:07.160 --> 00:24:09.759
I want to have, what happened to your freedom

00:24:09.759 --> 00:24:13.750
to choose? It's gone. This issue, I think, is

00:24:13.750 --> 00:24:16.869
a really important one, whether it's a man -woman

00:24:16.869 --> 00:24:21.329
relationship or father -son or sort of just as

00:24:21.329 --> 00:24:25.390
saying, you know, I'm free. If I can see through

00:24:25.390 --> 00:24:30.690
what's going on here, then I'm free. Wow. Awesome.

00:24:31.009 --> 00:24:34.150
Well, there you have it, folks. Side A of our

00:24:34.150 --> 00:24:36.829
ultimate big head Todd in a Monsters playlist,

00:24:37.170 --> 00:24:39.789
which kicked off with Thunderbird from her way

00:24:39.789 --> 00:24:43.019
out. Broken Hearted Savior from Sister Sweetly.

00:24:43.180 --> 00:24:46.640
Crazy Mary from Beautiful World. Dirty Juice

00:24:46.640 --> 00:24:49.579
from Crimes of Passion. Tower from Beautiful

00:24:49.579 --> 00:24:53.599
World. Juliana from Riviera. Sitting Crying the

00:24:53.599 --> 00:24:56.440
Blues from A Tribute to Willie Dixon. Her Own

00:24:56.440 --> 00:24:59.259
Kind of Woman from All the Love You Need. Long

00:24:59.259 --> 00:25:02.309
Cold Train from New World Horizon. and crush

00:25:02.309 --> 00:25:06.150
from her way out. Head over to myweeklymixtape

00:25:06.150 --> 00:25:09.009
.com to hear all the songs we've discussed in

00:25:09.009 --> 00:25:11.910
this mix through the playlist embedded on the

00:25:11.910 --> 00:25:15.789
episode page. Now, Todd, earlier I had mentioned

00:25:15.789 --> 00:25:18.730
seeing the band on the Crimes of Passion tour

00:25:18.730 --> 00:25:21.569
some 20 years ago, and you had actually mentioned

00:25:21.569 --> 00:25:24.529
the North Mississippi All -Stars, so that brought

00:25:24.529 --> 00:25:27.910
up a memory for me. I saw a show, and I'm going

00:25:27.910 --> 00:25:30.660
to try to... Move some cobwebs in your brain

00:25:30.660 --> 00:25:33.740
because this was a show that to me is a defining

00:25:33.740 --> 00:25:36.339
live moment that I've seen in my life. Okay.

00:25:36.400 --> 00:25:38.599
The show took place at the Meadowbrook Pavilion

00:25:38.599 --> 00:25:42.700
in Guilford, New Hampshire in 2004. North Mississippi

00:25:42.700 --> 00:25:46.119
All -Stars, Big Head Todd and the Monsters, and

00:25:46.119 --> 00:25:49.640
Blues Traveler. Towards the end of your set,

00:25:49.819 --> 00:25:52.880
you guys broke into Led Zeppelin's Fool in the

00:25:52.880 --> 00:25:57.289
Rain. And one by one. members of blues traveler

00:25:57.289 --> 00:26:01.390
started appearing on stage to the point where

00:26:01.390 --> 00:26:04.309
at the end of the song, both bands were simultaneously

00:26:04.309 --> 00:26:08.549
playing with both drummers. And then one by one,

00:26:08.589 --> 00:26:11.789
you guys disappeared and blues traveler continued.

00:26:11.930 --> 00:26:15.789
So it was probably a 15 or 20 minute version

00:26:15.789 --> 00:26:18.569
in my recollection. And it was one of the coolest.

00:26:19.259 --> 00:26:22.960
live experiences i ever had because both of your

00:26:22.960 --> 00:26:26.119
sets were longer there was no intermission and

00:26:26.119 --> 00:26:28.799
the music just kept on going i would love to

00:26:28.799 --> 00:26:31.759
know how you guys logistically pulled that off

00:26:31.759 --> 00:26:34.759
because it was flawless to the audience that's

00:26:34.759 --> 00:26:36.839
pretty cool yeah i don't know that we've done

00:26:36.839 --> 00:26:40.579
that since and uh i barely remember that but

00:26:40.579 --> 00:26:43.980
now that you mentioned it it was amazing and

00:26:43.980 --> 00:26:48.140
it was their their song that their band had kind

00:26:48.140 --> 00:26:50.859
of Been playing for a while, you know, covering

00:26:50.859 --> 00:26:53.799
that song for a while. So we just thought, you

00:26:53.799 --> 00:26:56.440
know, that would be a great way to make a transition

00:26:56.440 --> 00:26:59.259
so that there's no, you know, people aren't just

00:26:59.259 --> 00:27:02.440
quiddling their thumbs. And we've never done

00:27:02.440 --> 00:27:04.819
it since. I've never done it since with any group

00:27:04.819 --> 00:27:07.660
ever, but we are out with Blues Traveler this

00:27:07.660 --> 00:27:10.140
summer again. So maybe that's something we should

00:27:10.140 --> 00:27:12.779
talk about. I want to put it out there that I'm

00:27:12.779 --> 00:27:15.599
feeding that seed because it was such an amazing

00:27:15.599 --> 00:27:20.299
jam. And from a, audience standpoint i remember

00:27:20.299 --> 00:27:23.640
your set was going on i'm going wow they've played

00:27:23.640 --> 00:27:25.940
for almost 75 minutes this is amazing we're not

00:27:25.940 --> 00:27:28.519
getting like a truncated set yeah and because

00:27:28.519 --> 00:27:31.420
there was no layover between the bands i felt

00:27:31.420 --> 00:27:35.339
like we hit the jackpot musically nice well i'll

00:27:35.339 --> 00:27:38.539
bring that up again all right well we're now

00:27:38.539 --> 00:27:41.680
moving into side b and i get to pick the first

00:27:41.680 --> 00:27:45.369
track this time around okay And when I was thinking

00:27:45.369 --> 00:27:47.750
about how I wanted to lead into the side, the

00:27:47.750 --> 00:27:50.430
more I thought about it, I wanted to start things

00:27:50.430 --> 00:27:54.450
off with the funkiest, danciest Big Head Todd

00:27:54.450 --> 00:27:57.190
groove that I could ever imagine. And I'm going

00:27:57.190 --> 00:28:00.069
to go with the title track to 2010's Rock Steady.

00:28:00.430 --> 00:28:03.910
Ooh, cool. Yeah, this song has just the album

00:28:03.910 --> 00:28:07.369
as a whole has such a loose, relaxed vibe, but

00:28:07.369 --> 00:28:10.690
it's chock full of killer tunes. And Glide Magazine

00:28:10.690 --> 00:28:14.769
actually called the album. Fresh in ways even

00:28:14.769 --> 00:28:18.670
the band might not expect. Which leads me to

00:28:18.670 --> 00:28:22.269
ask, with that album, was there a sense that

00:28:22.269 --> 00:28:25.150
you guys were trying to push the musical boundaries

00:28:25.150 --> 00:28:28.289
in terms of what fans can expect from Big Head,

00:28:28.390 --> 00:28:32.190
Todd? Yeah, absolutely. You know, we had come

00:28:32.190 --> 00:28:35.789
back from maybe our first or second Caribbean

00:28:35.789 --> 00:28:40.509
cruise. We spent some time down there. And there's

00:28:40.509 --> 00:28:42.599
something about that. part of the world that's

00:28:42.599 --> 00:28:47.819
just so musical and i really felt just a janky

00:28:47.819 --> 00:28:52.420
reggae inspiration that came from that place

00:28:52.420 --> 00:28:56.400
that we wanted to put into album form and the

00:28:56.400 --> 00:29:00.539
cover of rocksteady is from a very famous bar

00:29:00.539 --> 00:29:03.460
down there in the carib and i i can't recall

00:29:03.460 --> 00:29:06.299
but it'll say on the cover maybe you can call

00:29:06.299 --> 00:29:09.339
it like in the grill or something like that you

00:29:09.339 --> 00:29:13.119
know but anyways uh It is unusual. It's pretty

00:29:13.119 --> 00:29:16.680
soul oriented, reggae oriented, which isn't kind

00:29:16.680 --> 00:29:20.960
of our basic DNA. There's a lot of pretty produced

00:29:20.960 --> 00:29:25.599
background, nice multi -part background chorus

00:29:25.599 --> 00:29:28.400
type things. The Beast of Burden on that is really

00:29:28.400 --> 00:29:31.920
good too. Oh my God. I love that cover. So there's

00:29:31.920 --> 00:29:34.599
some really cool stuff. All right. Well, we're

00:29:34.599 --> 00:29:37.480
back to you now to follow it up with track two.

00:29:37.900 --> 00:29:41.549
Okay. My track two is Her Way Out, which is the

00:29:41.549 --> 00:29:45.130
title track for our next record. She says I'm

00:29:45.130 --> 00:29:51.650
living in a one -track mind Like a runaway train

00:29:51.650 --> 00:30:39.500
running I want to tell you a quick story about

00:30:39.500 --> 00:30:43.740
how that song came into being. I had somebody

00:30:43.740 --> 00:30:49.119
that I knew who was in a relationship. And he

00:30:49.119 --> 00:30:51.740
had gotten a little too drunk and said some things.

00:30:52.539 --> 00:30:58.180
And the next morning, it was over. And she would

00:30:58.180 --> 00:31:02.259
not tell him what he said that caused it to be

00:31:02.259 --> 00:31:06.559
over. He was like... so wounded by that. And

00:31:06.559 --> 00:31:09.160
I just thought that was just quite a situation

00:31:09.160 --> 00:31:11.720
to be in. And it sort of kind of inspired that

00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:15.779
song. But the gist of it is that in that case,

00:31:15.819 --> 00:31:19.700
he gave her, he was her way out. His behavior

00:31:19.700 --> 00:31:23.480
gave her an out. But later in the song, that

00:31:23.480 --> 00:31:26.720
phrase takes a turn where relationship can be

00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:29.000
your way out. Being together can be your way

00:31:29.000 --> 00:31:32.119
out. So the chorus kind of shifts its meaning

00:31:32.119 --> 00:31:34.220
by the third verse. It means something different.

00:31:34.720 --> 00:31:37.039
But the second thing I'll say about it is it

00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:40.819
has a real Petty, Tom Petty vibe to it. It's

00:31:40.819 --> 00:31:43.160
really, I can't tell you how important Petty

00:31:43.160 --> 00:31:46.859
is to our group. And I'm almost crying thinking

00:31:46.859 --> 00:31:50.619
about him. But our bassist, Rob, is probably

00:31:50.619 --> 00:31:54.319
the biggest Petty fan there is. And this is his

00:31:54.319 --> 00:31:58.920
favorite song that we've ever done. Wow. So that

00:31:58.920 --> 00:32:02.000
meant a lot to me. And I knew right away that,

00:32:02.019 --> 00:32:04.440
you know, hey, this is a... probably something

00:32:04.440 --> 00:32:07.319
that we should pursue so i'm glad became the

00:32:07.319 --> 00:32:09.799
title track of the record it's at radio now we

00:32:09.799 --> 00:32:11.660
haven't been we haven't had a track at radio

00:32:11.660 --> 00:32:15.819
in 20 years and it's doing really well in its

00:32:15.819 --> 00:32:18.259
beginnings we'll see where it goes but we love

00:32:18.259 --> 00:32:22.400
the song check it out i immediately caught the

00:32:22.400 --> 00:32:25.480
tom petty vibes cool and for anybody who listens

00:32:25.480 --> 00:32:27.539
to my weekly mixtape they already know where

00:32:27.539 --> 00:32:30.400
i'm going with this but All the listeners know

00:32:30.400 --> 00:32:32.680
Tom Petty is my favorite artist of all time.

00:32:32.779 --> 00:32:35.759
I actually have a candle that's sitting on my

00:32:35.759 --> 00:32:38.480
desk that just says, some days are diamonds,

00:32:38.660 --> 00:32:41.839
some days are rocks. Words to live by from the

00:32:41.839 --> 00:32:45.039
song Walls. Tom Petty to me, his music means

00:32:45.039 --> 00:32:48.259
so much to me. And anytime I hear a band that

00:32:48.259 --> 00:32:51.059
I'm a fan of channeling that, it's bringing together

00:32:51.059 --> 00:32:54.670
two worlds that mean a lot to me. And this was

00:32:54.670 --> 00:32:57.269
definitely in my bank of songs to include later

00:32:57.269 --> 00:33:00.369
for that very reason. So I'm so glad you included

00:33:00.369 --> 00:33:04.930
it now. When Tom Petty passed, I was distraught

00:33:04.930 --> 00:33:08.849
for days. It just, it didn't seem real. And every

00:33:08.849 --> 00:33:11.329
time I listened to his music, it still doesn't

00:33:11.329 --> 00:33:14.430
seem real. He's one of the just greatest songwriters

00:33:14.430 --> 00:33:17.730
of our generation. I truly believe. Absolutely.

00:33:17.750 --> 00:33:20.809
No doubt about it. Well, following that up, I'm

00:33:20.809 --> 00:33:23.569
going to bring the. Because we talked about Tom

00:33:23.569 --> 00:33:26.809
here and it's putting me in kind of a different

00:33:26.809 --> 00:33:29.130
mindset. And I think I know the perfect place

00:33:29.130 --> 00:33:31.869
to bounce off this, bringing the mood down a

00:33:31.869 --> 00:33:34.490
little bit, but with a song that also celebrates

00:33:34.490 --> 00:33:38.710
somebody who was gone too soon. And I think I'm

00:33:38.710 --> 00:33:41.710
going to go with the title track to 2014's Black

00:33:41.710 --> 00:33:46.170
Beehive, the heartfelt tribute to Amy Winehouse.

00:33:47.089 --> 00:33:50.799
Musically, the song is just stunning. But then

00:33:50.799 --> 00:33:53.039
when you pull out and look at the album as a

00:33:53.039 --> 00:33:55.839
whole, it's an incredible body of work produced

00:33:55.839 --> 00:33:59.140
by one of the most underrated musicians on the

00:33:59.140 --> 00:34:02.519
planet, the amazing Steve Jordan. I'd love to

00:34:02.519 --> 00:34:04.960
know what it was like working with him on this

00:34:04.960 --> 00:34:07.440
album and what he brought to the table musically

00:34:07.440 --> 00:34:11.260
for you guys. Sure. Yeah, he's one of the greatest

00:34:11.260 --> 00:34:15.260
drummers that ever lived and musical minds. He's

00:34:15.260 --> 00:34:17.960
been involved in, well, the Rolling Stones, for

00:34:17.960 --> 00:34:21.190
example. Yes. Little bar band, you know. Yeah.

00:34:21.190 --> 00:34:24.269
I mean, he's absolutely phenomenal. He produced

00:34:24.269 --> 00:34:27.429
John Mayer's Continuum. Yep. He's a great producer

00:34:27.429 --> 00:34:31.849
and just a really super smart guy. He loved Black

00:34:31.849 --> 00:34:34.789
Beehive. And I think that's one of the songs

00:34:34.789 --> 00:34:38.289
that completely sucked him in. He actually, that

00:34:38.289 --> 00:34:43.030
vocal was one take. Oh. He filmed the take. I

00:34:43.030 --> 00:34:45.650
think it may even be on YouTube. I'll have to

00:34:45.650 --> 00:34:48.760
see if it is because I think it might be. But

00:34:48.760 --> 00:34:52.260
at any rate, the song came about because I was

00:34:52.260 --> 00:34:55.159
writing a song a day and putting them on YouTube

00:34:55.159 --> 00:34:59.199
as a kind of writer's exercise, which was exhausting

00:34:59.199 --> 00:35:04.380
because I write the song, record the video of

00:35:04.380 --> 00:35:10.579
a live solo performance of it. But so many things

00:35:10.579 --> 00:35:13.300
happen. And when somebody passes away like Amy

00:35:13.300 --> 00:35:16.800
Winehouse, there's an incredible story. just

00:35:16.800 --> 00:35:19.099
such a rich story there i just couldn't resist

00:35:19.099 --> 00:35:22.599
it and uh it was just a lucky day when i wrote

00:35:22.599 --> 00:35:25.780
it you know because there's a lot of killer lines

00:35:25.780 --> 00:35:28.880
in it and it really does honor her you know it

00:35:28.880 --> 00:35:32.840
says the story and uh i like that a lot and it's

00:35:32.840 --> 00:35:35.340
definitely one that i see continues through the

00:35:35.340 --> 00:35:37.920
band's live sets to this day which is great yeah

00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:40.760
it really fits so well and it's in our top 10

00:35:40.760 --> 00:35:43.579
on spotify too there you have it it's a top 10

00:35:43.579 --> 00:35:46.170
against onslaught And deservedly so. It's an

00:35:46.170 --> 00:35:49.469
amazing piece. So with that, we are back to you

00:35:49.469 --> 00:35:54.150
now to follow it up for track four. Okay. Since

00:35:54.150 --> 00:36:00.269
we're sort of in ballad mode, I'd like to submit

00:36:00.269 --> 00:36:04.269
one of my favorite ballads that I wrote. And

00:36:04.269 --> 00:36:06.429
it's called These Days Without You. It's on Beautiful

00:36:06.429 --> 00:36:11.650
World. And it's pretty simple. I Miss Somebody.

00:36:12.740 --> 00:36:17.099
but it's really a choker. It won't choke you

00:36:17.099 --> 00:36:20.420
up. It chokes me up singing it because the lines

00:36:20.420 --> 00:36:25.099
are just so delicate and so true. And I enjoy

00:36:25.099 --> 00:36:27.119
performing it for that same reason. Like when

00:36:27.119 --> 00:36:29.519
we're in exactly the right setting, that song

00:36:29.519 --> 00:36:32.659
kills. Now I've noticed you've pulled several

00:36:32.659 --> 00:36:36.340
songs from Beautiful World tonight so far between

00:36:36.340 --> 00:36:39.500
Crazy Mary, Tower. Is this one of the albums

00:36:39.500 --> 00:36:41.579
that just seems to resonate with you on a higher

00:36:41.579 --> 00:36:47.800
level? Yeah, I think especially in this sort

00:36:47.800 --> 00:36:52.679
of ethereal, atmospheric, soulful kind of thing.

00:36:53.059 --> 00:36:56.320
But at the same time, you know, Resignation Superman

00:36:56.320 --> 00:36:58.480
was on that album. I think that's what the head

00:36:58.480 --> 00:37:01.800
track was. It had, you know, helpless. There's

00:37:01.800 --> 00:37:04.880
a lot of rock in it too. And, you know, the whole

00:37:04.880 --> 00:37:06.320
thing we were talking about, Jerry Harrison,

00:37:06.400 --> 00:37:09.639
the former talking head, producer, brilliant

00:37:09.639 --> 00:37:13.630
producer. It was a magic. moment in our career

00:37:13.630 --> 00:37:17.869
well pivoting out of the slower songs now i want

00:37:17.869 --> 00:37:20.329
to pick it up a little bit we shall return to

00:37:20.329 --> 00:37:23.650
balance yes i want i want to pick up the energy

00:37:23.650 --> 00:37:25.929
a little bit i'm going to go with a song that

00:37:25.929 --> 00:37:31.110
during the covid lockdowns the band did a live

00:37:31.110 --> 00:37:35.550
stream from red rocks and it was one of the most

00:37:36.639 --> 00:37:39.519
memorable moments because it was one of the few

00:37:39.519 --> 00:37:41.320
nights where i felt like oh i'm not looking at

00:37:41.320 --> 00:37:43.019
the same thing over and over again here's something

00:37:43.019 --> 00:37:46.440
that's actually happening and my whole family

00:37:46.440 --> 00:37:48.840
got together and we watched the we're gonna play

00:37:48.840 --> 00:37:51.840
it anyway show yeah you guys did and i'm gonna

00:37:51.840 --> 00:37:54.420
go with the title track the song you opened with

00:37:54.420 --> 00:37:56.780
new world arise and i had mentioned it earlier

00:37:56.780 --> 00:38:01.260
that live stream was a musical highlight of a

00:38:01.260 --> 00:38:03.480
really tough time in a lot of people's lives

00:38:03.480 --> 00:38:34.699
right you talk about Well, because. Of COVID,

00:38:34.900 --> 00:38:37.960
you know, obviously there was no performing.

00:38:38.340 --> 00:38:41.500
It pretty much shut everybody's business down.

00:38:41.679 --> 00:38:45.880
We were all at home. And the chance to do that

00:38:45.880 --> 00:38:49.659
was just so great. I mean, Red Rocks is probably

00:38:49.659 --> 00:38:52.360
the best venue in the world and one of the most

00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:56.400
scenic anyways and best sounding. But to be able

00:38:56.400 --> 00:38:59.139
to play at empty Red Rocks, nobody's done that.

00:39:00.219 --> 00:39:03.079
Nobody's done that. So it was really an honor

00:39:03.079 --> 00:39:06.139
to be able to. to do that. And the fact that

00:39:06.139 --> 00:39:08.500
it could be live streamed and it could reach

00:39:08.500 --> 00:39:11.400
people and all that. I mean, that's just so meaningful

00:39:11.400 --> 00:39:13.980
to us. I would like to say something about new

00:39:13.980 --> 00:39:16.980
world horizon while we're on it. It's a, it's

00:39:16.980 --> 00:39:18.780
a, another one of our favorites. We play it a

00:39:18.780 --> 00:39:22.360
lot and obviously it rocks. It's a hard rock

00:39:22.360 --> 00:39:26.099
song, but the origins of the song came from Charlie

00:39:26.099 --> 00:39:28.639
Patton. Charlie Patton is one of the very first

00:39:28.639 --> 00:39:32.139
blues men, whoever, you know, recorded he, you

00:39:32.139 --> 00:39:35.219
can buy his. box set out of paramount he was

00:39:35.219 --> 00:39:38.360
popular in the 20s i think he died in 1940 or

00:39:38.360 --> 00:39:41.380
something like that but he was a huge inspiration

00:39:41.380 --> 00:39:48.000
to bob dylan uh uh i i'm the guy from uh i'm

00:39:48.000 --> 00:39:52.500
zoning out but the credence lead guy john fogarty

00:39:52.500 --> 00:39:57.119
john fogarty he he paid for charlie patton's

00:39:57.119 --> 00:39:59.900
gravestone Wow. You know, it's like one of those

00:39:59.900 --> 00:40:02.219
kinds of things. And Charlie Patton had a song

00:40:02.219 --> 00:40:08.380
called Jesus is my dying bedmaker. And that's

00:40:08.380 --> 00:40:11.860
that song. I basically, you know, wrote some

00:40:11.860 --> 00:40:14.820
words to that song. I mean, it's a straight blues

00:40:14.820 --> 00:40:19.260
song, but it plays like a hard rock song and

00:40:19.260 --> 00:40:23.380
really fun. Well, we are back to you now for

00:40:23.380 --> 00:40:27.119
track six, the second half of Side B. All right.

00:40:27.159 --> 00:40:31.719
Well. You've been moving around a lot and through

00:40:31.719 --> 00:40:35.639
albums, which is really fun. And we get to bring

00:40:35.639 --> 00:40:39.380
up things that aren't albums that maybe aren't

00:40:39.380 --> 00:40:43.159
the normal for us. You mentioned Riviera. And,

00:40:43.179 --> 00:40:45.199
you know, I'd like to say a lot about Riviera.

00:40:46.019 --> 00:40:49.079
I love Riviera. And I also love the cover of

00:40:49.079 --> 00:40:53.139
Riviera. Yeah. It was shot out of my hotel room

00:40:53.139 --> 00:40:58.170
in, I think it was in Iowa City. He was in Iowa.

00:40:58.690 --> 00:41:02.409
But it's one of those things where at that time

00:41:02.409 --> 00:41:05.690
of our career, we weren't getting a lot of love.

00:41:06.030 --> 00:41:09.349
I mean, we were from you and from our fan base,

00:41:09.429 --> 00:41:12.489
but we were struggling with our label. We had

00:41:12.489 --> 00:41:15.449
been in a conflict with our label that lasted

00:41:15.449 --> 00:41:18.750
for several years because I refused to co -write.

00:41:19.369 --> 00:41:22.550
They wanted me to co -write with people that

00:41:22.550 --> 00:41:26.849
would kind of give some pop zing to end the band.

00:41:27.440 --> 00:41:30.940
And I just, I hated that idea. I just, I felt

00:41:30.940 --> 00:41:32.940
like I was, that I'm a good writer and I got

00:41:32.940 --> 00:41:35.420
things to say as a writer. And, you know, one

00:41:35.420 --> 00:41:38.800
thing that's nice about one guy writing is there's

00:41:38.800 --> 00:41:42.980
a person there. Like there's a marrow to something

00:41:42.980 --> 00:41:47.880
that one person did. And I just felt strongly

00:41:47.880 --> 00:41:50.780
about that. But that album just kind of has a

00:41:50.780 --> 00:41:53.719
special tone because of that. It was recorded

00:41:53.719 --> 00:41:58.179
at my, I had a log cabin. That was on Solar Power

00:41:58.179 --> 00:42:01.739
in Yampa, Colorado, which is like way in the

00:42:01.739 --> 00:42:04.800
mountains of Colorado. So it was a really fun

00:42:04.800 --> 00:42:07.239
album to make, a really special time of our career.

00:42:07.420 --> 00:42:11.019
And I love Riviera. Well, let me say I'm glad

00:42:11.019 --> 00:42:13.500
that you have chosen to continue to write songs

00:42:13.500 --> 00:42:15.679
on your own and not do the co -writing route

00:42:15.679 --> 00:42:19.460
because it shows I love the Riviera album. And

00:42:19.460 --> 00:42:21.420
I'm so glad you stuck to your guns with this

00:42:21.420 --> 00:42:25.099
one because it produced some amazing songs. Nice.

00:42:26.000 --> 00:42:28.800
Well, following that up, I am going to go with

00:42:28.800 --> 00:42:31.400
one of the bigger hits because I feel like I

00:42:31.400 --> 00:42:33.599
want to give a nice balanced approach here. And

00:42:33.599 --> 00:42:35.800
we've been digging deep, but I also want to put

00:42:35.800 --> 00:42:37.760
out some of my favorites of all time. Let's do

00:42:37.760 --> 00:42:40.699
it. And without these songs, I wouldn't be the

00:42:40.699 --> 00:42:43.820
fan I am today. And I'm going to go with one

00:42:43.820 --> 00:42:47.300
of the heaviest songs I think the band has ever

00:42:47.300 --> 00:42:51.059
written. It's just the energy and the aura around

00:42:51.059 --> 00:42:53.480
the song. And I'm going to go with Circle. From

00:42:53.480 --> 00:42:57.539
Sister Sweetly. It's just such a monster song.

00:42:57.639 --> 00:42:59.539
When you hit the high notes during the guitar

00:42:59.539 --> 00:43:02.519
solo, like the hair on my arms is standing up

00:43:02.519 --> 00:43:06.079
just talking about it. This song is so powerful.

00:43:06.440 --> 00:43:09.320
And at the time when it came out in the 90s,

00:43:09.320 --> 00:43:14.079
this was a six plus minute single. That is unheard

00:43:14.079 --> 00:43:17.340
of now. Yeah, I guess it is. You're right. That's

00:43:17.340 --> 00:43:20.420
interesting. Yeah. You know, at that time too,

00:43:20.500 --> 00:43:23.659
there wasn't a lot of guitar rock happening either.

00:43:23.880 --> 00:43:28.340
We were sort of unusual in that way for those

00:43:28.340 --> 00:43:32.519
days, but we still play Circle every show. It

00:43:32.519 --> 00:43:36.880
is usually in the, at the, it's our show ender.

00:43:37.619 --> 00:43:40.320
Almost every show. I mean, we'll play an encore,

00:43:40.400 --> 00:43:43.260
but I can't say enough about how important that's

00:43:43.260 --> 00:43:45.500
been to our career. I appreciate that you guys

00:43:45.500 --> 00:43:48.619
like it because. Oh God, yeah. Hell, when you

00:43:48.619 --> 00:43:51.000
guys open it up and take it into eight, nine,

00:43:51.079 --> 00:43:53.420
ten minutes, I'm all here for it. So, I mean,

00:43:53.500 --> 00:43:57.500
you know, jam on, man. Nice. All right. Well,

00:43:57.579 --> 00:44:00.519
following that up, you have track eight. All

00:44:00.519 --> 00:44:06.559
right. Well, let's go with. Just give me a moment

00:44:06.559 --> 00:44:12.539
here. Because I think I wouldn't mind going to

00:44:12.539 --> 00:44:15.519
another hit. I'm just not sure which one. I think

00:44:15.519 --> 00:44:18.639
I'll choose. I think I'll choose It's All Right.

00:44:19.239 --> 00:44:24.659
Nice. Which has been really an amazing thing

00:44:24.659 --> 00:44:27.639
for us to be able to play. You know, it's obviously

00:44:27.639 --> 00:44:31.320
been a successful song for the band. We've had

00:44:31.320 --> 00:44:35.340
incredible vocalist Hazel Miller as a big part

00:44:35.340 --> 00:44:37.579
of our career. She's been all over that song.

00:44:38.079 --> 00:44:41.460
And the original recording featured Javita Steele

00:44:41.460 --> 00:44:45.300
as she was the vocalist on that song. David Z

00:44:45.300 --> 00:44:48.699
produced it, who was Prince producer. And we

00:44:48.699 --> 00:44:53.440
recorded it at Paisley Park, that album. So he

00:44:53.440 --> 00:44:56.820
had a lot of that really slick kind of soul,

00:44:57.000 --> 00:45:01.760
R &B, Prince oriented, you know, very tight.

00:45:02.199 --> 00:45:06.400
At that time, there weren't computers. We weren't

00:45:06.400 --> 00:45:08.619
like gridding things out on a computer then.

00:45:08.840 --> 00:45:13.599
And so to get that kind of sound, I mean. was

00:45:13.599 --> 00:45:17.639
was a chore and that album it took a long time

00:45:17.639 --> 00:45:19.679
we were in the studio for like three and a half

00:45:19.679 --> 00:45:24.139
months really it was very intensive because of

00:45:24.139 --> 00:45:27.980
that you know going for that perfect time before

00:45:27.980 --> 00:45:30.099
there were computers you used to have a thing

00:45:30.099 --> 00:45:34.960
called it was called a russian dragon like russia

00:45:34.960 --> 00:45:37.699
you know on the on the faceplate of the machine

00:45:37.699 --> 00:45:40.300
yeah but it would tell you if you were rushing

00:45:40.300 --> 00:45:44.039
or dragging But there was so many things like

00:45:44.039 --> 00:45:47.659
that that just made that a really special Sally

00:45:47.659 --> 00:45:52.860
record. It really is. And that song, again, to

00:45:52.860 --> 00:45:56.519
me, it's a staple. It's a song that I don't want

00:45:56.519 --> 00:45:59.719
to say you expect to hear, but you'd almost be

00:45:59.719 --> 00:46:01.900
disappointed if you don't hear it in a live show.

00:46:01.920 --> 00:46:04.460
It's just so great. And I think I'm going to

00:46:04.460 --> 00:46:06.159
follow it up. We're going to do a trifecta from

00:46:06.159 --> 00:46:09.300
Sister Sweetly. I feel like we have to do that.

00:46:09.400 --> 00:46:12.340
And for track nine. I'm going to go with the

00:46:12.340 --> 00:46:15.699
song that introduced me to the band, which made

00:46:15.699 --> 00:46:18.679
me buy Sister Sweetly, which made me hear Brokenhearted

00:46:18.679 --> 00:46:21.159
Savior for the first time. And I'm going to go

00:46:21.159 --> 00:46:26.360
with the amazing pop rock hit, Bittersweet. I

00:46:26.360 --> 00:46:30.099
absolutely love the song. And what I love about

00:46:30.099 --> 00:46:34.360
it, it has all the workings of a classic 90s

00:46:34.360 --> 00:46:37.929
rock song. But then there's the guitar solo,

00:46:38.070 --> 00:46:43.130
and it just is so bluesy and so jangly, for lack

00:46:43.130 --> 00:46:46.489
of a better word. It takes it outside of what

00:46:46.489 --> 00:46:49.969
you would consider pop rock, and it just adds

00:46:49.969 --> 00:46:52.409
a whole new layer of complexity to it. Well,

00:46:52.429 --> 00:46:55.849
thank you. And to me, that is always what resonated

00:46:55.849 --> 00:46:58.309
with me about the band. There was a pop sensibility,

00:46:58.369 --> 00:47:02.250
but... You stuck to your roots of blues and rock,

00:47:02.289 --> 00:47:04.389
and you never let those fall to the wayside.

00:47:04.429 --> 00:47:08.170
They always stayed a part of the sound. My question

00:47:08.170 --> 00:47:11.630
about Bittersweet, that was originally featured

00:47:11.630 --> 00:47:16.929
on Midnight Radio. Why was that the one song

00:47:16.929 --> 00:47:20.730
that made the leap to Sister Sweetly? This is

00:47:20.730 --> 00:47:23.630
an excellent question. As you noticed, it did

00:47:23.630 --> 00:47:28.530
appear on Midnight Radio, and that was all perfectly

00:47:28.530 --> 00:47:31.929
good. Midnight Radio was the last album before

00:47:31.929 --> 00:47:34.530
we were signed to a major label. We released

00:47:34.530 --> 00:47:36.710
Midnight Radio on our own along with another

00:47:36.710 --> 00:47:40.070
album, another Mayberry. Yes. Before we were

00:47:40.070 --> 00:47:45.070
discovered by a major label and put in that system

00:47:45.070 --> 00:47:49.230
or whatever. When we did the album, Sister Sweetly,

00:47:49.389 --> 00:47:53.590
I did not want Bittersweet to be on it. Really?

00:47:54.070 --> 00:47:57.469
Because it was already on Midnight Radio. I mean.

00:47:58.409 --> 00:48:02.429
Oh, why am I putting it on two albums? That doesn't

00:48:02.429 --> 00:48:06.769
make any sense. And the powers that be, you know,

00:48:06.769 --> 00:48:10.730
put a lot of pressure on me to include that song.

00:48:11.409 --> 00:48:13.710
They ultimately prevailed. And I'm glad they

00:48:13.710 --> 00:48:16.750
did because, you know, the version that is on

00:48:16.750 --> 00:48:20.329
Sister Sweetly just, you know, has all those

00:48:20.329 --> 00:48:23.409
really high, you know, those big production poppy

00:48:23.409 --> 00:48:26.889
kind of elements. And it really is the band's

00:48:26.889 --> 00:48:29.800
most important song. It was our only number one

00:48:29.800 --> 00:48:36.280
rock radio hit. And it still is the song that

00:48:36.280 --> 00:48:40.719
people pay money to see us play, probably more

00:48:40.719 --> 00:48:43.300
than any other song. And you can feel it when

00:48:43.300 --> 00:48:47.579
we play it. So I'm glad you chose it. Well, now,

00:48:47.679 --> 00:48:51.440
Todd, you have the privilege, honor, or whatever

00:48:51.440 --> 00:48:55.260
you want to call it, a tough choice to pick the

00:48:55.260 --> 00:48:58.989
song that closes out Side B. Of the ultimate

00:48:58.989 --> 00:49:04.230
Big Head Todd in a Monsters playlist. Wow. Okay.

00:49:06.550 --> 00:49:11.570
I'm going to choose another song from Riviera,

00:49:11.670 --> 00:49:15.130
which is my favorite song since you've given

00:49:15.130 --> 00:49:17.610
me that chance. Sure. It's called Secret Mission.

00:49:18.510 --> 00:49:22.670
Nice. And I just love this song. I'll be honest

00:49:22.670 --> 00:49:25.909
with you. The very beginning, I borrowed from

00:49:25.909 --> 00:49:31.130
The Clash. Really? Clamp down or something like

00:49:31.130 --> 00:49:34.309
that. That feedback at the beginning going in

00:49:34.309 --> 00:49:39.070
there. Yeah. Outside of that, it's a very original

00:49:39.070 --> 00:49:44.650
song. And I love the lyric. Invisible ink on

00:49:44.650 --> 00:49:47.070
invisible paper, but I can still smell your perfume.

00:49:47.349 --> 00:49:51.010
That song is full of great run liners. And it's

00:49:51.010 --> 00:49:53.829
really an emotional and fun song to play every

00:49:53.829 --> 00:49:55.510
night. We don't play it every night, but we play

00:49:55.510 --> 00:49:58.329
it a lot still. Well, there you have it, folks.

00:49:58.510 --> 00:50:01.849
Side B of our ultimate Big Head Todd and the

00:50:01.849 --> 00:50:04.570
Monsters playlist, which kicked off with Rock

00:50:04.570 --> 00:50:07.570
Steady from the album of the same name. The brand

00:50:07.570 --> 00:50:10.190
new track Her Way Out from the album of the same

00:50:10.190 --> 00:50:12.309
name. And I'm actually going to say this a third

00:50:12.309 --> 00:50:15.309
time. Black Beehive from the album of the same

00:50:15.309 --> 00:50:18.190
name. All title tracks. There you go. These Days

00:50:18.190 --> 00:50:21.170
Without You from Beautiful World. Okay, here

00:50:21.170 --> 00:50:23.550
we go again. New World Horizon from New World

00:50:23.550 --> 00:50:26.760
Horizon, album of the same name. Riviera from

00:50:26.760 --> 00:50:30.159
Riviera, album of the same name, a trifecta of

00:50:30.159 --> 00:50:33.059
songs, Circle, It's Alright, and Bittersweet

00:50:33.059 --> 00:50:36.679
from Sister Sweetly, and Secret Mission from

00:50:36.679 --> 00:50:40.519
Riviera. Head over to myweeklymixtape .com to

00:50:40.519 --> 00:50:42.940
hear all the songs we've discussed in this mix

00:50:42.940 --> 00:50:45.760
through the playlist embedded on the episode

00:50:45.760 --> 00:50:49.539
page. Now, we did not touch on cover songs tonight,

00:50:49.719 --> 00:50:53.539
and I want to take a moment to do that because

00:50:54.760 --> 00:50:57.619
Through the years, cover songs have always been

00:50:57.619 --> 00:51:01.519
a part of Big Head Todd's repertoire, but done

00:51:01.519 --> 00:51:05.019
in a way that truly make them your own. A couple

00:51:05.019 --> 00:51:07.579
of them that come to mind, the band did an amazing

00:51:07.579 --> 00:51:11.800
rendition of Tangerine on the Led Zeppelin Ecomium

00:51:11.800 --> 00:51:16.539
release that came out in the 90s. You did a insane

00:51:16.539 --> 00:51:21.780
180 degree pivot. of leonard skinner's sweet

00:51:21.780 --> 00:51:25.179
home alabama on the under the influence tribute

00:51:25.179 --> 00:51:29.579
where you slowed it down and made it a hazy tripped

00:51:29.579 --> 00:51:32.239
out version it's just unbelievable we talked

00:51:32.239 --> 00:51:34.920
about your cover of the rolling stones beast

00:51:34.920 --> 00:51:38.340
of burden from rock steady you talked about the

00:51:38.340 --> 00:51:41.880
cover of boom boom with john lee hooker and then

00:51:41.880 --> 00:51:44.860
you also recorded a cover of neil young cinnamon

00:51:44.860 --> 00:51:50.000
girl with toad the wet sprocket What is the band's

00:51:50.000 --> 00:51:53.059
overall mindset when you're covering a song,

00:51:53.159 --> 00:51:56.019
trying to put that Big Head Todd stamp on it?

00:51:56.039 --> 00:51:59.460
Because all of those examples truly do that.

00:52:01.500 --> 00:52:04.840
Yeah, I think it's really important to try to

00:52:04.840 --> 00:52:08.840
add a little bit of your own way of doing things

00:52:08.840 --> 00:52:12.159
if you're going to do a cover. And at the same

00:52:12.159 --> 00:52:15.519
time, all those songs are huge songs. If you're

00:52:15.519 --> 00:52:18.599
going to just play just like it is, then... It's

00:52:18.599 --> 00:52:21.739
less impressive, I think, but choosing the song

00:52:21.739 --> 00:52:24.800
is so important too. You know, Tangerine has

00:52:24.800 --> 00:52:28.019
been a big song for us. There's a lot of great

00:52:28.019 --> 00:52:31.079
Led Zeppelin songs, but that's just such a, I

00:52:31.079 --> 00:52:33.579
don't know, that's just a clever song. I think

00:52:33.579 --> 00:52:37.099
that's been so fun for us to do. While we're

00:52:37.099 --> 00:52:39.059
on the cover songs, I want to mention Brandy.

00:52:39.099 --> 00:52:41.739
We have a version of Looking Glass Brandy that's

00:52:41.739 --> 00:52:45.980
really popular. Again, it's on a Spotify top

00:52:45.980 --> 00:52:48.320
10. It's probably number six. Or something like

00:52:48.320 --> 00:52:51.699
that. And it's not on an album. It's one of the

00:52:51.699 --> 00:52:54.960
Monster Monthly things. But like YouTube video,

00:52:55.079 --> 00:52:57.719
I think there's over a million views in it. Elliot

00:52:57.719 --> 00:53:01.900
Lurie, the singer from Looking Glass, gave us

00:53:01.900 --> 00:53:04.940
a huge kudos saying, you know, you guys made

00:53:04.940 --> 00:53:08.659
me proud covering that song. That's amazing.

00:53:08.760 --> 00:53:11.340
And unlike some of those other ones, that song

00:53:11.340 --> 00:53:13.460
is just pretty much straight and true to the

00:53:13.460 --> 00:53:15.860
original form of the song. We really didn't do

00:53:15.860 --> 00:53:18.769
much except for redo it. as good as we could.

00:53:18.829 --> 00:53:22.050
And it just worked out well. And then lest we

00:53:22.050 --> 00:53:24.550
forget the cover of Bruce Springsteen's Rosalita

00:53:24.550 --> 00:53:26.750
that you did with blues travelers, John Popper.

00:53:26.829 --> 00:53:30.050
Yeah. That's a special one too. John Popper playing

00:53:30.050 --> 00:53:33.710
the harmonica parts for all those Clarence Clemon,

00:53:33.789 --> 00:53:36.110
you know, all those big man sax parts. Yeah.

00:53:36.650 --> 00:53:39.989
Monica in our, in our thing. And that, that song

00:53:39.989 --> 00:53:43.869
is just a glorious, whatever it is, seven minutes.

00:53:43.889 --> 00:53:46.820
That's a long song. There's a lot of words in

00:53:46.820 --> 00:53:49.300
that song, but man, what a great piece of work

00:53:49.300 --> 00:53:51.840
that is. And you guys did an incredible version

00:53:51.840 --> 00:53:55.000
of it. Thank you. Well, along with the release

00:53:55.000 --> 00:53:58.599
of Her Way Out, what does the rest of 2024 have

00:53:58.599 --> 00:54:02.480
in store for the band? Well, we're in the middle

00:54:02.480 --> 00:54:05.440
of our winter tour. We're finishing it up. We

00:54:05.440 --> 00:54:10.659
have about three weeks left down the East Seaboard,

00:54:10.739 --> 00:54:14.909
you know, from New York to Carolina. And we'll

00:54:14.909 --> 00:54:17.650
finish that up at the end of February and have

00:54:17.650 --> 00:54:19.969
a couple months off. We're gearing it up for

00:54:19.969 --> 00:54:22.630
a release. It's been about seven years since

00:54:22.630 --> 00:54:25.650
we've put an album out. And we're really proud

00:54:25.650 --> 00:54:27.909
of what's going to happen when this comes, you

00:54:27.909 --> 00:54:31.110
know, this piece of music. That'll be kind of

00:54:31.110 --> 00:54:35.389
tied to our Red Rocks play in June, where we're

00:54:35.389 --> 00:54:37.949
going to do two shows with the Wallflowers. Nice.

00:54:38.010 --> 00:54:41.210
Which is pretty cool. Yeah. And then this summer,

00:54:41.250 --> 00:54:45.199
we'll have us back. with Blues Traveler. We played

00:54:45.199 --> 00:54:47.500
it last summer with them kind of in the West

00:54:47.500 --> 00:54:49.940
Coast and a little bit of Midwest. And this summer,

00:54:50.000 --> 00:54:52.340
we're going to finish it up and get to the East

00:54:52.340 --> 00:54:57.059
Coast. And after that, we'll do another winter

00:54:57.059 --> 00:55:01.980
tour. And in March, we'll be on a Joe Bonamassa

00:55:01.980 --> 00:55:07.539
cruise. Nice. To Belize. So I don't know who

00:55:07.539 --> 00:55:10.019
the other groups. He's got incredible artists.

00:55:10.039 --> 00:55:12.699
So it's a big... He does these big cruises with

00:55:12.699 --> 00:55:16.500
five or six big bands, but he's such a great

00:55:16.500 --> 00:55:19.679
guitarist. I really look forward to not cutting

00:55:19.679 --> 00:55:23.019
heads with him, but learning from him, you know

00:55:23.019 --> 00:55:24.980
what I'm saying? I'm not going to lie. I'd love

00:55:24.980 --> 00:55:27.079
to see you two throw down together on a song,

00:55:27.119 --> 00:55:29.059
man. I think that'd be amazing. We'll see what

00:55:29.059 --> 00:55:33.059
happens. I'll practice my skills. And don't forget

00:55:33.059 --> 00:55:35.980
Fool in the Rain with Blues Traveler this summer.

00:55:36.119 --> 00:55:38.519
Full band crossovers. Let's make it happen. Yeah.

00:55:38.800 --> 00:55:43.710
I love it. Okay. We're hoping to cover, just

00:55:43.710 --> 00:55:47.230
before with Blues Traveler, the song that we're

00:55:47.230 --> 00:55:51.389
hoping to do with them is The Wizard, Black Sabbath.

00:55:51.849 --> 00:55:55.849
Really? It's a really cool song. Oh, I love it.

00:55:55.889 --> 00:55:59.650
That harmonic is so haunting in it. Yeah. Oh,

00:55:59.690 --> 00:56:03.289
that'll be badass. We've been talking about it,

00:56:03.349 --> 00:56:05.130
so it's going to be cool when we pull it out.

00:56:05.289 --> 00:56:07.389
Are you taking the lead vocals on that or with

00:56:07.389 --> 00:56:12.420
John? We'll see. Uh, John, he, a lot, he's a,

00:56:12.599 --> 00:56:15.800
an incredible singer too. So I hope that he'll

00:56:15.800 --> 00:56:19.440
take some, but I, I'm really good at, uh, I got

00:56:19.440 --> 00:56:22.079
a pretty good Ozzy Osbourne imitation in here.

00:56:22.599 --> 00:56:24.820
Oh, I can't wait to hear it. That's gotta be

00:56:24.820 --> 00:56:27.460
another monthly release. It just has to happen.

00:56:27.579 --> 00:56:31.260
Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Well, Todd, thank

00:56:31.260 --> 00:56:33.820
you so much for joining me on my weekly mixtape.

00:56:33.900 --> 00:56:37.400
This has been an absolute honor. All right. Thanks

00:56:37.400 --> 00:56:40.329
Brian for having me. And, uh, I love, I just,

00:56:40.389 --> 00:56:43.329
it's humbling to have somebody like you that

00:56:43.329 --> 00:56:47.909
fell for my music. I mean, to such a degree that

00:56:47.909 --> 00:56:51.489
you have. Of course, we love it. Our band loves

00:56:51.489 --> 00:56:55.690
all of our albums. You know, it's just really

00:56:55.690 --> 00:56:58.809
special to have a lengthy career and to have

00:56:58.809 --> 00:57:01.909
people say that this song or that song is my

00:57:01.909 --> 00:57:03.809
favorite or this album is my favorite. I mean,

00:57:03.869 --> 00:57:06.469
that's just such an honor. So thank you so much

00:57:06.469 --> 00:57:09.050
for caring about our music and supporting our

00:57:09.050 --> 00:57:11.880
group. Well, trust me when I say, Todd, the pleasure

00:57:11.880 --> 00:57:15.019
is all mine. Thank you once again. And to all

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