WEBVTT 00:00:10.719 --> 00:00:13.480 Welcome to My Weekly Mixtape, a podcast that 00:00:13.480 --> 00:00:16.420 takes the classic mixtape approach to building 00:00:16.420 --> 00:00:18.960 a modern playlist. I'm your host, Brian Colburn. 00:00:19.039 --> 00:00:21.960 Joining me tonight from both The Neat Cast as 00:00:21.960 --> 00:00:26.100 well as Podcasters Assemble Podcasts is Zach 00:00:26.100 --> 00:00:28.940 Derby, somebody who I've known and gone back 00:00:28.940 --> 00:00:31.579 and forth with since the beginning of the Playlist 00:00:31.579 --> 00:00:34.420 Wars days, and we're finally, for the first time 00:00:34.420 --> 00:00:37.329 ever, doing an episode together, and I am so 00:00:37.329 --> 00:00:39.770 stoked about that. Zach, thank you so much for 00:00:39.770 --> 00:00:43.289 joining me on My Weekly Mixtape. Brian, I'm happy 00:00:43.289 --> 00:00:46.929 and honored to finally be here. It's been fun 00:00:46.929 --> 00:00:50.490 to watch you as a content creator grow and evolve 00:00:50.490 --> 00:00:53.210 from where you and Gomez were with Playlist Wars 00:00:53.210 --> 00:00:55.750 and where you are now with the My Weekly Mixtape. 00:00:56.149 --> 00:00:58.929 Being on NeatCast and a few others that I'm involved 00:00:58.929 --> 00:01:02.579 in, we're... We're not as unique, I think, in 00:01:02.579 --> 00:01:05.439 my opinion, as what you do. I don't really see 00:01:05.439 --> 00:01:09.239 any other content creators, at least in my field 00:01:09.239 --> 00:01:12.939 of podcast and viewing, doing what you're doing 00:01:12.939 --> 00:01:17.780 the way that you do it. We're comedy, or at Podcasters 00:01:17.780 --> 00:01:19.359 Assemble, we're talking about movies, but you, 00:01:19.439 --> 00:01:21.319 I love your approach, and you change it. It's 00:01:21.319 --> 00:01:23.609 always different every week, and I love it. Yeah, 00:01:23.629 --> 00:01:25.750 it's usually how my musical playlists go, but 00:01:25.750 --> 00:01:28.750 thank you very much for the kind words. And now 00:01:28.750 --> 00:01:31.069 for the first time in so many years, I get to 00:01:31.069 --> 00:01:34.170 ask you my first timer's question, which is, 00:01:34.189 --> 00:01:37.930 Zach, what does the word mixtape mean to you? 00:01:38.870 --> 00:01:43.829 Well, Brian, I am old enough to remember tapes 00:01:43.829 --> 00:01:47.069 prior to making the mix CDs, which I did do a 00:01:47.069 --> 00:01:49.409 fair amount of those because honestly, that became 00:01:49.409 --> 00:01:54.079 a bit easier. But the mixtape was. the old cassette 00:01:54.079 --> 00:01:57.280 boombox radio popping in the tape and just like 00:01:57.280 --> 00:01:59.780 everybody else like waiting for the right song 00:01:59.780 --> 00:02:02.640 and then you know you'd hear it because most 00:02:02.640 --> 00:02:05.579 everything we had was a hot ac chr they were 00:02:05.579 --> 00:02:07.840 playing the hits the new music and you'd wait 00:02:07.840 --> 00:02:10.039 for it and you'd hit it and you'd record it and 00:02:10.039 --> 00:02:12.599 if you're really good it almost sounded like 00:02:12.599 --> 00:02:15.180 you knew what you were doing. But sometimes you'd 00:02:15.180 --> 00:02:18.979 miss a couple seconds here or there, or the DJ, 00:02:19.159 --> 00:02:21.379 the jock, would come on the air, which didn't 00:02:21.379 --> 00:02:23.159 ruin it for me. I know some people hated that. 00:02:23.280 --> 00:02:26.580 Stop talking over the music! Well, that's what 00:02:26.580 --> 00:02:29.539 radio is, unfortunately. Sorry. I mean, I'm sorry. 00:02:29.639 --> 00:02:33.680 If a radio DJ could talk up to the opening lyrics 00:02:33.680 --> 00:02:38.539 and hit that post, to me, that is money right 00:02:38.539 --> 00:02:41.349 there. That is a skill. There's training wheels 00:02:41.349 --> 00:02:46.330 now with radio. It's so freaking easy to hit 00:02:46.330 --> 00:02:48.650 the post now with the software that they give 00:02:48.650 --> 00:02:51.169 you. I don't necessarily complain because I remember 00:02:51.169 --> 00:02:53.849 the reel -to -reel. I remember the tracks. I 00:02:53.849 --> 00:02:56.169 remember the carts. I remember all this. I was 00:02:56.169 --> 00:02:57.990 still using those when I came in, but they were 00:02:57.990 --> 00:03:01.009 going out. I'm not complaining about where technology 00:03:01.009 --> 00:03:04.569 is, but respect to the guys and girls that did 00:03:04.569 --> 00:03:08.939 that. just off pure sound and knowledge of the 00:03:08.939 --> 00:03:12.080 music. Just kudos to them. My owner is like that. 00:03:12.159 --> 00:03:16.419 He started as an on -air jock, and he knows how 00:03:16.419 --> 00:03:19.939 many intro seconds. Oh, yeah, 48 seconds. How 00:03:19.939 --> 00:03:24.659 do you know that? Well, tonight we are talking 00:03:24.659 --> 00:03:27.319 about a very divisive topic, and I'm going to 00:03:27.319 --> 00:03:29.960 say it's a divisive topic before we even record 00:03:29.960 --> 00:03:33.500 it, because... We recently dropped an episode, 00:03:33.759 --> 00:03:36.879 Guilty Pleasures of the 1980s. I heard it and 00:03:36.879 --> 00:03:39.560 I loved it. I loved it. It was great. Thank you. 00:03:39.560 --> 00:03:42.879 Thank you very much. And I want to take the same 00:03:42.879 --> 00:03:45.639 approach. So I'm going to start by giving the 00:03:45.639 --> 00:03:50.460 same PSA I gave before the 1980s episode, which 00:03:50.460 --> 00:03:53.400 was episode 67, if you want to check that out. 00:03:53.479 --> 00:03:56.659 But I want to stress that at least for me personally, 00:03:56.960 --> 00:04:02.020 I have never and will never. feel guilt listening 00:04:02.020 --> 00:04:07.360 to a song that i enjoy but coming from a podcasting 00:04:07.360 --> 00:04:10.620 perspective people search for the term guilty 00:04:10.620 --> 00:04:13.680 pleasures people have requested guilty pleasures 00:04:13.680 --> 00:04:17.319 of this show it's just the terminology for a 00:04:17.319 --> 00:04:21.060 song that is otherwise known as songs that people 00:04:21.060 --> 00:04:24.180 seem to hate but you love and people don't search 00:04:24.180 --> 00:04:29.540 for that So yes, I am pandering to the masses 00:04:29.540 --> 00:04:32.620 by saying that this is a guilty pleasures episode. 00:04:32.839 --> 00:04:36.040 But for me tonight, there's zero guilt. I love 00:04:36.040 --> 00:04:38.759 all of these songs, but a lot of publications 00:04:38.759 --> 00:04:42.439 hate them. Zach, what approach did you take coming 00:04:42.439 --> 00:04:45.379 up with your tracks for tonight? So this was 00:04:45.379 --> 00:04:48.240 actually tough because just like you said, guilty 00:04:48.240 --> 00:04:51.180 pleasure, you're implying that I like something 00:04:51.180 --> 00:04:54.199 that other people don't. And for me, I wasn't 00:04:54.199 --> 00:04:57.259 it was hard for me to go, all right, does the 00:04:57.259 --> 00:04:59.079 public really hate this? Because I know there 00:04:59.079 --> 00:05:00.860 are songs that the public really hates. But then 00:05:00.860 --> 00:05:03.259 I went, do I actually really like those songs? 00:05:03.319 --> 00:05:05.600 So for me, that was tough. But I know I had an 00:05:05.600 --> 00:05:08.970 easier time remembering. Back in the 90s, yes, 00:05:09.230 --> 00:05:11.370 I was born in the 80s, but I grew up in the 90s. 00:05:11.370 --> 00:05:14.329 So the 90s were my jam. And I remember the music 00:05:14.329 --> 00:05:16.750 that I would like that I went, I don't know if 00:05:16.750 --> 00:05:19.709 I want to play that around my friends. So that 00:05:19.709 --> 00:05:23.569 was my approach. I didn't share what. albums 00:05:23.569 --> 00:05:27.670 i got off the columbia house 20 cd sign up thing 00:05:27.670 --> 00:05:30.370 that you may or may not have paid for back in 00:05:30.370 --> 00:05:33.930 the day but that was my approach try to think 00:05:33.930 --> 00:05:37.470 of what do i secretly enjoy that maybe i didn't 00:05:37.470 --> 00:05:40.670 want my friends at the time to know and my objective 00:05:40.670 --> 00:05:43.990 tonight is for us to create a playlist so that 00:05:43.990 --> 00:05:46.610 you and i and everyone else are going to be listening 00:05:46.610 --> 00:05:48.759 to it going What do you mean this is a guilty 00:05:48.759 --> 00:05:50.959 pleasure? And they drop an F -bomb and they just 00:05:50.959 --> 00:05:53.600 sing along because they don't care. Because they 00:05:53.600 --> 00:05:56.540 just got the window down. If they had hair, it's 00:05:56.540 --> 00:05:58.560 flowing. I don't. And they're just going to have 00:05:58.560 --> 00:06:01.019 a blast with our playlist. That's my goal today. 00:06:01.480 --> 00:06:04.100 All right. And mine, I'm taking it one small 00:06:04.100 --> 00:06:07.540 step further. I went and Googled the most hated 00:06:07.540 --> 00:06:11.720 songs of the 1990s. You said that. And I found 00:06:11.720 --> 00:06:15.100 lists from Rolling Stone magazine, NPR, NME, 00:06:15.279 --> 00:06:18.860 Ranker. And I just. Looked through them and went 00:06:18.860 --> 00:06:22.279 wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. So I've got about 00:06:22.279 --> 00:06:25.480 45 wrongs in my list that we're going to try 00:06:25.480 --> 00:06:28.699 to whittle down to 20 and make right tonight. 00:06:29.660 --> 00:06:32.040 So let's get down to business. As I mentioned 00:06:32.040 --> 00:06:34.379 at the top of the show, Zach and I are curating 00:06:34.379 --> 00:06:38.060 the ultimate guilt -free guilty pleasures of 00:06:38.060 --> 00:06:40.319 the 90s mixtape, and we're going to use that 00:06:40.319 --> 00:06:43.079 old cassette deck approach. Zach, as my special 00:06:43.079 --> 00:06:45.300 guest, will begin side A with his first song 00:06:45.300 --> 00:06:47.779 choice, and then I'll add a song that I feel 00:06:47.779 --> 00:06:50.420 best follows up that choice. We'll then flip 00:06:50.420 --> 00:06:52.500 -flop choosing songs until we've mapped out. 00:06:52.720 --> 00:06:55.680 10 songs for Side A. We'll then give our mixtape 00:06:55.680 --> 00:06:58.300 a proverbial flip and we'll map out Side B. Only 00:06:58.300 --> 00:07:00.819 this time, I'll kick things off with Zach choosing 00:07:00.819 --> 00:07:03.620 second. Our overall goal for the episode is to 00:07:03.620 --> 00:07:06.819 craft the best guilt -free guilty pleasures of 00:07:06.819 --> 00:07:10.100 the 90s mixtape possible through only 20 songs. 00:07:10.360 --> 00:07:12.560 At the end of the show, you can take our conversation 00:07:12.560 --> 00:07:15.519 to the next level by visiting the episode page 00:07:15.519 --> 00:07:19.040 at myweeklymixtape .com to give our final mixtape 00:07:19.040 --> 00:07:22.060 a listen. via the embedded playlist. 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Ben from the Too Vague 00:07:58.819 --> 00:08:02.240 podcast chimed in with Scooby Snacks by the Fun 00:08:02.240 --> 00:08:06.300 Lovin' Criminals. Jen Fink chimed in with Chumbawamba's 00:08:06.300 --> 00:08:09.259 Tub Thumping or Limp Bizkit's Nookie, depending 00:08:09.259 --> 00:08:12.319 on how we want to set the tone. And speaking 00:08:12.319 --> 00:08:15.079 of Limp Bizkit, Tom Hutchinson chimed in with 00:08:15.079 --> 00:08:19.199 Break Stuff or Hadaway's What Is Love. Chad LaMassa 00:08:19.199 --> 00:08:21.540 chimed in with Wannabe from the Spice Girls, 00:08:21.779 --> 00:08:25.329 saying the song is infectious and fun. And to 00:08:25.329 --> 00:08:28.769 that, Zebrahead does a killer punk version. If 00:08:28.769 --> 00:08:31.550 you want to hear that, go check it out. Philip 00:08:31.550 --> 00:08:34.409 Bergman chimed in with Step by Step by New Kids 00:08:34.409 --> 00:08:37.830 on the Block. And Sean Goff chimed in with Walk 00:08:37.830 --> 00:08:41.629 This World by Heather Nova. And over on the brand 00:08:41.629 --> 00:08:45.370 new My Weekly Mixtape Discord server, which you 00:08:45.370 --> 00:08:48.409 can find in the show notes here, as well as the 00:08:48.409 --> 00:08:51.409 main menu at myweeklymixtape .com, there was 00:08:51.409 --> 00:08:54.960 a last minute chime in of Escape Club's. I'll 00:08:54.960 --> 00:08:57.539 be there. Just a reminder, if you want to chime 00:08:57.539 --> 00:09:00.200 in for future My Weekly Mixtape episodes, you 00:09:00.200 --> 00:09:03.139 could join the Mixtaper family at patreon .com 00:09:03.139 --> 00:09:07.220 forward slash My Weekly Mixtape. So, Zach, with 00:09:07.220 --> 00:09:09.980 that musical food for thought out in the atmosphere, 00:09:10.120 --> 00:09:13.820 everyone cleansed their souls of the guilt. This 00:09:13.820 --> 00:09:16.539 is a safe space. I'm officially going to press 00:09:16.539 --> 00:09:19.960 the record button on our mixtape and pass the 00:09:19.960 --> 00:09:24.019 mic over to you. What song? Are you unabashedly 00:09:24.019 --> 00:09:27.879 diving into to kick off Side A? Boy, this is 00:09:27.879 --> 00:09:30.659 a little bit of pressure. This is the first one 00:09:30.659 --> 00:09:33.019 they're going to hear. And I was going back and 00:09:33.019 --> 00:09:35.440 forth going, oh, man, do I want to start slow? 00:09:35.600 --> 00:09:37.460 Do I want to start fast? Do I want to start annoying? 00:09:37.779 --> 00:09:39.299 Do I want to start with something that people 00:09:39.299 --> 00:09:43.360 go, oh, nice. Ah, gosh. And this one I'm just 00:09:43.360 --> 00:09:44.860 going to start with because this was the one 00:09:44.860 --> 00:09:48.139 when you said guilty pleasure song. This is one 00:09:48.139 --> 00:09:49.740 of the first ones that came to mind because. 00:09:50.320 --> 00:09:52.820 I got a reaction from my friends off of, again, 00:09:52.860 --> 00:09:54.799 a mix CD I had made when we were just playing 00:09:54.799 --> 00:09:58.580 it, hanging out. It was Butthole Surfer's Pepper. 00:09:59.200 --> 00:10:03.259 And the look I got as it started, all their heads 00:10:03.259 --> 00:10:05.960 turning because I was the one that made the mixtape. 00:10:06.259 --> 00:10:08.559 And at first I was like, oh, they like it. But 00:10:08.559 --> 00:10:12.399 then I saw their faces and I went, oh. Not fans 00:10:12.399 --> 00:10:17.259 of the butthole surfers, I see. So butthole surfers 00:10:17.259 --> 00:10:20.059 pepper is what I'll be starting with, if that's 00:10:20.059 --> 00:10:23.000 okay by you. Oh, by all means, man, I'm actually 00:10:23.000 --> 00:10:25.639 shocked that that one would come up as a guilty 00:10:25.639 --> 00:10:28.679 pleasure song, because I think maybe more that 00:10:28.679 --> 00:10:31.639 the band name was just outside the norm than 00:10:31.639 --> 00:10:34.740 anything else. To me, again, I had the approach 00:10:34.740 --> 00:10:38.440 of going off my personal experience than just 00:10:38.440 --> 00:10:41.360 necessary. I do have some that people hate or 00:10:41.360 --> 00:10:43.539 can't stand. But for me, it was one that I really 00:10:43.539 --> 00:10:45.720 loved. And just that reaction went, oh, this 00:10:45.720 --> 00:10:49.169 is now my guilty pleasure song. Well. I think 00:10:49.169 --> 00:10:51.289 it's a great way to start things off. It's a 00:10:51.289 --> 00:10:55.230 little weird. Yeah. It's got that definite 90s 00:10:55.230 --> 00:10:58.289 vibe to it. And God, that one never even came 00:10:58.289 --> 00:11:02.470 up on my radar. So coming out of that, I'm scrolling 00:11:02.470 --> 00:11:04.769 through my list and I'm going, hmm, that won't 00:11:04.769 --> 00:11:07.309 work. That won't work. That won't work. However, 00:11:07.590 --> 00:11:11.350 I found something that just might. So what I 00:11:11.350 --> 00:11:14.250 think I'm going to do is tap into the kind of 00:11:14.250 --> 00:11:18.659 the weirdness of. butthole surfers pepper and 00:11:18.659 --> 00:11:21.620 slow it down a little bit for a track too which 00:11:21.620 --> 00:11:24.659 is a weird way to start a playlist but out of 00:11:24.659 --> 00:11:27.019 every song on my list this is the only one that 00:11:27.019 --> 00:11:31.080 actually makes some musical sense and this song 00:11:31.080 --> 00:11:34.480 was ranked number three on buzzfeed's 20 worst 00:11:34.480 --> 00:11:39.500 songs of the 90s now if a song is that bad weirdo 00:11:39.500 --> 00:11:43.840 yankovic will not parody it and on his box set 00:11:44.350 --> 00:11:47.409 permanent record al in the box he closed the 00:11:47.409 --> 00:11:51.549 box set out by parodying this song as headline 00:11:51.549 --> 00:11:53.710 news and i'm going to go with the crash test 00:11:53.710 --> 00:12:00.950 dummies it was a distinctly 90s song and i think 00:12:00.950 --> 00:12:05.029 the biggest problem with the song is that it 00:12:05.029 --> 00:12:08.450 gives people the idea that that's all that the 00:12:08.450 --> 00:12:10.889 crash test dummies are about and they're an incredible 00:12:10.889 --> 00:12:15.330 band and i feel like this song just got so big 00:12:15.330 --> 00:12:20.889 it almost became the issue in and of itself because 00:12:20.889 --> 00:12:23.769 this is a great group they're still constantly 00:12:23.769 --> 00:12:26.690 on the road touring and if a song was that bad 00:12:26.690 --> 00:12:28.769 i don't think weird al would do a parody of it 00:12:28.769 --> 00:12:33.129 so he's pretty particular with what he chooses 00:12:33.129 --> 00:12:36.610 and he hits some of the the ones that you know 00:12:36.610 --> 00:12:40.009 and love so it's a nice simple nice simple parody 00:12:40.009 --> 00:12:44.940 and then others are thinkers And he is very meticulous 00:12:44.940 --> 00:12:47.659 with his at least that's how I always understood 00:12:47.659 --> 00:12:50.740 his approach to me. Agree. And that's this is 00:12:50.740 --> 00:12:53.120 probably headline news, at least one of the few 00:12:53.120 --> 00:12:56.559 instances where when I play Weird Al songs for 00:12:56.559 --> 00:12:59.580 my kids now, I kind of skip that one, because 00:12:59.580 --> 00:13:03.320 unless you were alive during that era, a lot 00:13:03.320 --> 00:13:05.200 of those stories, I'd have to sit there and pause 00:13:05.200 --> 00:13:08.860 the song and explain the stories he's talking 00:13:08.860 --> 00:13:12.299 about. In headline news, because that was a very 00:13:12.299 --> 00:13:15.419 dated comedic song for Weird Al, which is a lot 00:13:15.419 --> 00:13:17.399 different than a lot of his other stuff that 00:13:17.399 --> 00:13:19.519 has a more timeless nature to it. But we're not 00:13:19.519 --> 00:13:21.879 talking about Weird Al. We're talking about crash 00:13:21.879 --> 00:13:24.860 test dummies. No guilt in this song. It's awesome. 00:13:25.039 --> 00:13:27.000 And I think it's a great follow up to Pepper. 00:13:27.340 --> 00:13:32.220 No, I agree. It's it is a very slower song to 00:13:32.220 --> 00:13:35.210 start. So it follows very well. So what are you 00:13:35.210 --> 00:13:38.330 going to follow up Pepper and Mm -Mm -Mm -Mm 00:13:38.330 --> 00:13:41.350 with? Baruch Assault? This is going to be the 00:13:41.350 --> 00:13:44.730 slowest playlist ever. It's just all under like 00:13:44.730 --> 00:13:47.889 60 beats a minute. It's awesome. No, I think 00:13:47.889 --> 00:13:51.610 I'm going to bring it up a little bit. Gosh, 00:13:51.649 --> 00:13:55.110 but what do I want to bring it up with? Ooh, 00:13:55.389 --> 00:13:58.049 because that one, that one I want to use, but 00:13:58.049 --> 00:13:59.110 I'm going to hold on to that because that's a 00:13:59.110 --> 00:14:04.500 little, that just shoots out like a cannon. I'm 00:14:04.500 --> 00:14:07.639 going to start with this one because I remember 00:14:07.639 --> 00:14:12.120 hearing it and it was popular. And then I think 00:14:12.120 --> 00:14:15.039 it started to wane on people because it was being 00:14:15.039 --> 00:14:20.360 played everywhere, especially after A Night at 00:14:20.360 --> 00:14:23.519 the Roxbury came out and it's had away what is 00:14:23.519 --> 00:14:28.159 love. I remember hearing it and it was, you heard 00:14:28.159 --> 00:14:29.820 this at all the school dances and everything, 00:14:29.940 --> 00:14:33.620 but it quickly wore out its welcome once the 00:14:33.620 --> 00:14:36.320 movie hit and everybody was playing it everywhere 00:14:36.320 --> 00:14:39.259 and then you couldn't get away from it. And I 00:14:39.259 --> 00:14:42.059 still enjoy it. It's repetitive, but you just, 00:14:42.100 --> 00:14:44.460 all of a sudden you just, you're bopping along 00:14:44.460 --> 00:14:46.399 to it and you're going, yeah, I'm listening. 00:14:46.500 --> 00:14:49.240 I'm still listening to it. I absolutely love 00:14:49.240 --> 00:14:52.000 that song, man. I mean, even before a night at 00:14:52.000 --> 00:14:54.980 the Roxbury, I had this on cassette single. Like 00:14:54.980 --> 00:14:58.620 I really liked this song. This is an absolute 00:14:58.620 --> 00:15:02.159 dance anthem worldwide. This was a worldwide 00:15:02.159 --> 00:15:05.179 hit. I think the only thing that this song suffers 00:15:05.179 --> 00:15:10.200 from is the fact that it was so popular. It just 00:15:10.200 --> 00:15:13.519 got played to the point of nauseam. And I think 00:15:13.519 --> 00:15:16.200 that might be a lot of things that we touch on 00:15:16.200 --> 00:15:18.470 tonight that. These songs aren't necessarily 00:15:18.470 --> 00:15:21.769 guilty pleasures. They were just so big and so 00:15:21.769 --> 00:15:25.169 unescapable that people almost felt bombarded 00:15:25.169 --> 00:15:28.909 by them. Yep. And there is a song. I'll wait 00:15:28.909 --> 00:15:30.769 until I hope it doesn't go on the list because 00:15:30.769 --> 00:15:33.389 I can't stand it. But if it does, I'll tell the 00:15:33.389 --> 00:15:35.769 story then. If not, I'll tell you about a certain 00:15:35.769 --> 00:15:39.409 song that I can't bring myself to add into the 00:15:39.409 --> 00:15:42.899 rotation of my station because. I just can't. 00:15:42.899 --> 00:15:46.019 It was so overplayed that I don't ever want it 00:15:46.019 --> 00:15:48.779 to come back on the radio. It was just that awful. 00:15:49.340 --> 00:15:52.059 Well, I'm going to go with one to follow that 00:15:52.059 --> 00:15:56.259 up with a song that, according to a lot of publications, 00:15:56.620 --> 00:16:01.580 is a quote unquote bad song. This was ranked 00:16:01.580 --> 00:16:05.259 number one on Rolling Stone Reader's poll of 00:16:05.259 --> 00:16:08.659 the worst songs of the 90s. So if we're going 00:16:08.659 --> 00:16:10.519 for the cleanup spot here, we might as well go 00:16:10.519 --> 00:16:14.460 for a home run. Sure. Number 17 on BuzzFeed's 00:16:14.460 --> 00:16:18.299 20 worst songs of the 90s. Number two on Bustle's 00:16:18.299 --> 00:16:23.159 18 annoying 90s songs that we all listen to obsessively. 00:16:23.440 --> 00:16:27.600 And number one on American Songwriter's 10 worst 00:16:27.600 --> 00:16:32.500 songs of the 90s. Now, if you were alive in 2023. 00:16:33.159 --> 00:16:37.379 I was. You were. So was I. Oh, good. Yeah. You 00:16:37.379 --> 00:16:41.779 would remember the fact that Barbie was. inescapable 00:16:41.779 --> 00:16:46.980 oh no and yes we are going there aqua barbie 00:16:46.980 --> 00:16:51.740 girl coming out of what is love this song i never 00:16:51.740 --> 00:16:56.620 thought was bad i always enjoyed that euro dance 00:16:56.620 --> 00:17:00.179 sound yep like around the world la la la la la 00:17:00.179 --> 00:17:03.320 all those songs with that very much similar sound 00:17:03.320 --> 00:17:06.059 similar beat i always thought this one was just 00:17:06.059 --> 00:17:12.059 novelty -esque enough that it was fun but still 00:17:12.059 --> 00:17:14.299 danceable you could still play this in a club 00:17:14.299 --> 00:17:17.319 and people would get into it but it was just 00:17:17.319 --> 00:17:20.200 as much fun that it kind of crossed barriers 00:17:20.200 --> 00:17:23.759 when it was played around younger audiences the 00:17:23.759 --> 00:17:27.319 innuendos would go over their head and i would 00:17:27.319 --> 00:17:30.119 have to assume if a punk band like homegrown 00:17:30.119 --> 00:17:34.619 recorded a cover of it usually you don't cover 00:17:34.619 --> 00:17:38.299 songs you hate So while all of these places said 00:17:38.299 --> 00:17:41.500 it was the worst song ever, you got punk bands 00:17:41.500 --> 00:17:44.339 covering it, and then you fast forward 20 -something 00:17:44.339 --> 00:17:47.240 years later, and the song is brought back into 00:17:47.240 --> 00:17:50.180 a revival through the Barbie movie and is now 00:17:50.180 --> 00:17:53.900 being celebrated for what it did back in the 00:17:53.900 --> 00:17:57.119 90s. So while it's not my favorite song of the 00:17:57.119 --> 00:18:00.180 90s, coming out of What Is Love will keep the 00:18:00.180 --> 00:18:03.299 dance vibe going a little bit longer. Okay. All 00:18:03.299 --> 00:18:10.079 right. I feel that. Well, okay. I could also 00:18:10.079 --> 00:18:12.359 do something that's a little novelty, I guess. 00:18:14.720 --> 00:18:17.559 This is going to be from my extra category, but 00:18:17.559 --> 00:18:21.359 it was in there. And personally, I don't listen 00:18:21.359 --> 00:18:24.319 to this gentleman that much anymore. But when 00:18:24.319 --> 00:18:27.440 his first album came out, and I love the man 00:18:27.440 --> 00:18:30.119 on Fresh Prince of Bel -Air, but when Will Smith 00:18:30.119 --> 00:18:32.559 dropped his first album, I got that and went, 00:18:32.660 --> 00:18:36.579 oh, wow. This is fun. This is interesting. But 00:18:36.579 --> 00:18:40.059 then the one that I think people dislike more 00:18:40.059 --> 00:18:43.640 than anything off of his first album was after 00:18:43.640 --> 00:18:48.319 Wild Wild West came out and hit Will Smith doing 00:18:48.319 --> 00:18:51.819 Wild Wild West. It's one of those. It's still 00:18:51.819 --> 00:18:55.299 you hear it start and it's got that. It's a little 00:18:55.299 --> 00:18:57.900 bit of an earworm and it just sticks with you. 00:18:57.940 --> 00:18:59.759 And no matter what you try to do, it's still 00:18:59.759 --> 00:19:01.859 stuck in there and you're singing all about. 00:19:02.319 --> 00:19:06.740 wild wild west i love the original from cool 00:19:06.740 --> 00:19:10.900 mo d in the 80s so when this one came out like 00:19:10.900 --> 00:19:14.279 i remember the original so i'm like oh this is 00:19:14.279 --> 00:19:16.660 kind of like an updated version of that song 00:19:16.660 --> 00:19:20.420 so to me when i think about it through my 80s 00:19:20.420 --> 00:19:23.259 hip -hop lens when i was in middle school going 00:19:23.259 --> 00:19:25.519 to middle school dances there's a part of me 00:19:25.519 --> 00:19:31.779 that appreciates that song but I am definitely 00:19:31.779 --> 00:19:35.880 much more of a getting jiggy with a fan. If you 00:19:35.880 --> 00:19:38.640 were to ask me, because that one to this day, 00:19:38.700 --> 00:19:42.279 I still genuinely love, but I could see where 00:19:42.279 --> 00:19:45.559 wild, wild West would get more of the hate movie 00:19:45.559 --> 00:19:49.759 and song actually. Yes. And that's a guilty pleasure 00:19:49.759 --> 00:19:53.119 movie of mine. If I haven't watched it in a long 00:19:53.119 --> 00:19:56.700 time, but I know it's not a very well -received 00:19:56.700 --> 00:19:59.160 movie, but I would sit down and watch it. It 00:19:59.160 --> 00:20:03.299 was peak Will Smith when he was becoming the 00:20:03.299 --> 00:20:06.700 Hollywood star. And I'll still go back and watch 00:20:06.700 --> 00:20:10.140 it. And getting jiggy with it is, I think, a 00:20:10.140 --> 00:20:12.480 better song that I do enjoy more. But for the 00:20:12.480 --> 00:20:15.859 guilty pleasure purposes, I think this fits a 00:20:15.859 --> 00:20:18.819 little bit better from my list. All right. Well, 00:20:18.900 --> 00:20:21.400 following it up. I'm going to stick with this 00:20:21.400 --> 00:20:25.000 kind of rap, kind of hip hop, almost pop hip 00:20:25.000 --> 00:20:27.759 hop scene here. And I'm going to go with a song 00:20:27.759 --> 00:20:31.460 that ranked number 13 on Bustle's 18 annoying 00:20:31.460 --> 00:20:35.119 90 songs that we all listen to obsessively. Now, 00:20:35.160 --> 00:20:37.779 I don't understand even that headline, annoying 00:20:37.779 --> 00:20:40.440 songs that we all listen to obsessively. It's 00:20:40.440 --> 00:20:41.960 almost like we were kind of torturing ourselves. 00:20:42.079 --> 00:20:44.660 However, I don't think this song was ever annoying. 00:20:44.900 --> 00:20:47.279 And I think there's a lot more love for this 00:20:47.279 --> 00:20:51.900 song than. People are going to want to admit 00:20:51.900 --> 00:20:56.619 to, but at the time there were a lot of children, 00:20:56.819 --> 00:20:59.160 hip hop artists. You had another bad creation 00:20:59.160 --> 00:21:03.619 who did Aisha and playground. You had the youngsters, 00:21:03.640 --> 00:21:07.779 which did hip hop ride and cruise pop, which 00:21:07.779 --> 00:21:10.279 featured trash from naughty by nature. But I'm 00:21:10.279 --> 00:21:12.680 going to go with the one that became a thing 00:21:12.680 --> 00:21:15.559 because of the music video and the backwards 00:21:15.559 --> 00:21:18.720 clothes, which we all probably tried at one point. 00:21:19.369 --> 00:21:22.650 in middle school because yeah everybody when 00:21:22.650 --> 00:21:26.410 that opening to crisscross's jump hits i don't 00:21:26.410 --> 00:21:30.349 care that people said it was annoying i think 00:21:30.349 --> 00:21:32.670 people were almost ashamed to say we're enjoying 00:21:32.670 --> 00:21:37.130 kids rapping but i think crisscross scored the 00:21:37.130 --> 00:21:40.309 biggest hit of all of those child rappers and 00:21:40.309 --> 00:21:43.289 it's something that the song has been used in 00:21:43.289 --> 00:21:47.250 movies i remember it being a joke point in that 00:21:47.250 --> 00:21:51.900 movie with justin timberlake and was it no strings 00:21:51.900 --> 00:21:55.019 attached i think so yeah one of those movies 00:21:55.019 --> 00:21:57.200 where friends with benefits no string i'm not 00:21:57.200 --> 00:21:59.480 a big movie guy so you're gonna have to help 00:21:59.480 --> 00:22:02.759 me on that one but it was justin timberlake and 00:22:02.759 --> 00:22:07.500 the one from that 70s show mila kunis mila kunis 00:22:07.500 --> 00:22:09.740 and there was a whole thing about jump in that 00:22:09.740 --> 00:22:12.799 movie i just remember that scene but to me the 00:22:12.799 --> 00:22:16.440 song had a great beat yes they had a gimmick 00:22:16.440 --> 00:22:20.190 but so does kiss And nobody complains about that. 00:22:20.210 --> 00:22:22.849 Well, they do, but whatever. Crisscross jump. 00:22:23.589 --> 00:22:27.670 That's a good follow -up. All right. Well, I 00:22:27.670 --> 00:22:33.650 am going to go a different direction. But still, 00:22:33.869 --> 00:22:38.289 I think this is something, I know it's a type 00:22:38.289 --> 00:22:41.569 of music, but this is the one that stuck out 00:22:41.569 --> 00:22:44.750 in the 90s and really was the one that seemed 00:22:44.750 --> 00:22:47.750 to be the most popular. And you would hear it. 00:22:48.079 --> 00:22:50.880 Not so much on the radio, but you would hear 00:22:50.880 --> 00:22:57.299 it at parties, dances, events. It was always 00:22:57.299 --> 00:23:02.079 being played. And that is Scatman John, Scatman. 00:23:02.420 --> 00:23:04.839 Ooh, interesting pick. I'd actually love to take 00:23:04.839 --> 00:23:09.619 a minute and get your deep lyrical analysis and 00:23:09.619 --> 00:23:17.140 perspective on this one. I'm the scat man, skitty 00:23:17.140 --> 00:23:18.920 -ditty -dab -a -doop, bop -bop -boop, and that's 00:23:18.920 --> 00:23:21.779 it. Yeah, not bad, not bad. I think we might 00:23:21.779 --> 00:23:24.140 have to, they might actually tag it for thinking 00:23:24.140 --> 00:23:26.140 that I played the original in the episode here. 00:23:26.160 --> 00:23:29.759 That was so lifelike. I mean, are you scat man? 00:23:30.440 --> 00:23:34.400 You know, you lie like my co -host on the NeatCast, 00:23:34.420 --> 00:23:38.299 and I like it. All right. Well, we've got this 00:23:38.299 --> 00:23:40.839 kind of dance. I don't know how we went from 00:23:40.839 --> 00:23:44.440 butthole surfers and crash test dummies to scat 00:23:44.440 --> 00:23:48.140 man. I don't know, but I got stuck here. I'm 00:23:48.140 --> 00:23:50.119 now looking at my list going, how many of these 00:23:50.119 --> 00:23:52.700 are dance songs? And I'm looking going, probably 00:23:52.700 --> 00:23:55.819 a third of them are at least dance songs. I don't 00:23:55.819 --> 00:23:58.000 know how I got to this. All right. Well, I'm 00:23:58.000 --> 00:24:01.720 going to give us a huge record scratching pivot 00:24:01.720 --> 00:24:04.220 point. where we could go anywhere we want for 00:24:04.220 --> 00:24:06.359 the last two songs of the night, because I've 00:24:06.359 --> 00:24:09.480 got a couple of tracks that are definitely weird. 00:24:10.160 --> 00:24:12.500 Okay. And I think coming out of scat, man, I 00:24:12.500 --> 00:24:14.819 think I could get away with this one because 00:24:14.819 --> 00:24:18.299 it is a kind of a rap song, kind of a dance song. 00:24:18.500 --> 00:24:21.579 And it was a 1999 single. And the song became 00:24:21.579 --> 00:24:25.460 so popular on MTV's total request live that it 00:24:25.460 --> 00:24:29.700 went to number one, prompting MTV to have this 00:24:29.700 --> 00:24:33.240 artist quote unquote, retire it. Why they did 00:24:33.240 --> 00:24:35.759 that, I have no idea, because the video was promoting 00:24:35.759 --> 00:24:39.660 another MTV network show and the song became 00:24:39.660 --> 00:24:44.680 a hit that would have conceivably drove viewership. 00:24:44.680 --> 00:24:47.859 But I digress. And as Tom Green said, he wanted 00:24:47.859 --> 00:24:50.740 to at least give 98 degrees a chance. I'm going 00:24:50.740 --> 00:24:54.359 with Tom Green, Lonely Swedish, the bum bum song. 00:24:55.369 --> 00:24:59.410 If Eminem interpolates parts of the song in both 00:24:59.410 --> 00:25:03.410 the real Slim Shady and Without Me, with Eminem 00:25:03.410 --> 00:25:08.309 going as far as to wear a superhero costume similar 00:25:08.309 --> 00:25:13.490 to Tom Green, the song is a novelty hit, but 00:25:13.490 --> 00:25:15.849 it still gets a little bit of respect. If one 00:25:15.849 --> 00:25:19.529 of the greatest hip -hop artists ever pays homage 00:25:19.529 --> 00:25:23.630 to your novelty track, It has to have a place 00:25:23.630 --> 00:25:27.809 on a guilty pleasures playlist, man. I, you just 00:25:27.809 --> 00:25:31.529 unlocked a memory. I, I remember watching the 00:25:31.529 --> 00:25:35.569 Tom green show. It is a Tom green show. This 00:25:35.569 --> 00:25:40.470 is not the green Tom show. And I remember when 00:25:40.470 --> 00:25:42.930 this song came out and I remember watching the 00:25:42.930 --> 00:25:47.470 video and just laughing hysterically out of just 00:25:47.470 --> 00:25:51.349 Tom green being Tom green. And I forget when 00:25:51.349 --> 00:25:54.690 I, grew out of tom green or he retired or canceled 00:25:54.690 --> 00:25:58.710 i forget but i i just went up and looked up the 00:25:58.710 --> 00:26:01.710 video again went oh yeah yep there he is he's 00:26:01.710 --> 00:26:04.569 doing his thing again that's tom green i still 00:26:04.569 --> 00:26:07.430 have that song on several 90s playlists because 00:26:07.430 --> 00:26:10.230 i love what it just pops up randomly and who's 00:26:10.230 --> 00:26:13.329 ever in the car with you goes is that what i 00:26:13.329 --> 00:26:16.450 think it is Because for a hot minute, you couldn't 00:26:16.450 --> 00:26:19.329 escape the song on MTV. It really became a movement. 00:26:19.430 --> 00:26:21.750 And I'm actually shocked that MTV didn't just 00:26:21.750 --> 00:26:25.029 ride that wave. Because there were some pretty 00:26:25.029 --> 00:26:28.170 funny bits on Tom Green. I used to love the man 00:26:28.170 --> 00:26:30.589 on the street reporter where he would put dog 00:26:30.589 --> 00:26:32.890 crap into the microphone and then close it in 00:26:32.890 --> 00:26:35.049 and ask people questions. I thought that was 00:26:35.049 --> 00:26:36.910 one of the funniest things on the planet at the 00:26:36.910 --> 00:26:40.049 time. Yeah, back then. I don't know if I would 00:26:40.049 --> 00:26:42.369 want that done to me. No, no, no. But back at 00:26:42.369 --> 00:26:45.250 the time in the 90s in college, that skit was 00:26:45.250 --> 00:26:49.450 legendary. It was. God. Now the memories are 00:26:49.450 --> 00:26:52.690 starting to unfold from the Rolodex. Another 00:26:52.690 --> 00:26:56.289 old term that's relevant now. Right, kids? Ha 00:26:56.289 --> 00:26:58.930 ha. Well, and plus, I mean, you could really 00:26:58.930 --> 00:27:01.109 go anywhere you want out of this song because 00:27:01.109 --> 00:27:03.490 at this point I just threw a grenade on the side 00:27:03.490 --> 00:27:07.819 A. I know. What do I want to end with now? Yeah, 00:27:07.920 --> 00:27:13.700 your last pick for side A. Yeah. Gosh. This is 00:27:13.700 --> 00:27:15.460 tough. This is really tough because I've got 00:27:15.460 --> 00:27:21.140 a bunch that I could go any direction. And some 00:27:21.140 --> 00:27:24.140 of these, I think what I'm going to do is I'm 00:27:24.140 --> 00:27:28.220 going to get back to, this is certainly, I guess, 00:27:28.240 --> 00:27:32.519 not really a guilty. Pleasure per se, but it 00:27:32.519 --> 00:27:34.599 is something that I went, you know, I didn't 00:27:34.599 --> 00:27:39.940 ever see myself as being a fan of this artist. 00:27:40.819 --> 00:27:45.180 But the more and more that I heard their music 00:27:45.180 --> 00:27:48.259 over their career, I went, all right, I'm not 00:27:48.259 --> 00:27:52.940 pop, but I like it. And for the 90s, I'm going 00:27:52.940 --> 00:27:55.019 to go with Michael Jackson's Black or White. 00:27:55.450 --> 00:27:58.730 And I was never a big Michael fan. But yeah, 00:27:58.769 --> 00:28:00.490 more and more I heard it and went, I like it, 00:28:00.529 --> 00:28:04.349 I like it. I can kind of equate Michael in the 00:28:04.349 --> 00:28:08.009 90s, now that I go back and listen, is kind of 00:28:08.009 --> 00:28:12.069 like where Lady Gaga is for me now. I don't listen 00:28:12.069 --> 00:28:14.970 to her music, but I respect her as an artist 00:28:14.970 --> 00:28:16.910 and what she has accomplished and what she's 00:28:16.910 --> 00:28:20.009 done. And she can perform. She's a hell of a 00:28:20.009 --> 00:28:22.630 performer and an artist, but she's not my cup 00:28:22.630 --> 00:28:25.460 of tea. michael wasn't either for the most part 00:28:25.460 --> 00:28:28.500 i am on the other side of that i was a big michael 00:28:28.500 --> 00:28:31.759 jackson fan in the 80s i thought the video for 00:28:31.759 --> 00:28:34.160 black and white used technology that i had never 00:28:34.160 --> 00:28:36.900 seen before and oh yeah with the face changes 00:28:36.900 --> 00:28:41.730 it was mind -blowing at the time pre -cgi I mean, 00:28:41.750 --> 00:28:43.609 you think about that video now, I'm sure somebody 00:28:43.609 --> 00:28:45.930 probably can whip it up an AI in 30 minutes, 00:28:45.990 --> 00:28:48.250 but at the time this was like some groundbreaking 00:28:48.250 --> 00:28:51.150 shit that was happening. And the song was catchy 00:28:51.150 --> 00:28:53.829 slash played guitar on it. So I got that little 00:28:53.829 --> 00:28:56.549 bit of the rock edge into the mix, but it was 00:28:56.549 --> 00:28:59.069 definitely a pop song and a little bit of a different 00:28:59.069 --> 00:29:02.269 vibe from the bad album. And I still think the 00:29:02.269 --> 00:29:06.990 song holds up and. Hmm. Where do you go from 00:29:06.990 --> 00:29:08.549 Michael Jackson? Because that's one of the biggest 00:29:08.549 --> 00:29:11.109 names. So I have to really hit a home run to 00:29:11.109 --> 00:29:15.230 close out Side A. Sorry to put you in this position. 00:29:15.630 --> 00:29:18.690 Yeah, I'm going to go with one that I have firsthand 00:29:18.690 --> 00:29:22.190 experience that as soon as I say the name of 00:29:22.190 --> 00:29:24.250 the song, people are going to start getting angry 00:29:24.250 --> 00:29:28.170 with me. But I have seen firsthand on many Colburn 00:29:28.170 --> 00:29:31.650 and Company occasions, people genuinely love 00:29:31.650 --> 00:29:35.170 the song and they sing along with it unabashedly. 00:29:35.680 --> 00:29:37.839 But when you say it, it's going to follow the 00:29:37.839 --> 00:29:40.319 crisscross line a little bit here, because this 00:29:40.319 --> 00:29:43.359 was a group that was made up of younger kids 00:29:43.359 --> 00:29:48.480 that just happened to play pop rock music. And 00:29:48.480 --> 00:29:52.680 you could not escape in the 90s. The Hanson Brothers. 00:29:53.119 --> 00:29:57.740 Yeah. Mbop reached number six on Rolling Stone's 00:29:57.740 --> 00:30:00.380 Reader's Poll of the Worst Songs of the 90s and 00:30:00.380 --> 00:30:04.039 American Songwriters' 10 Worst Songs of the 90s. 00:30:04.440 --> 00:30:07.440 Number eight on BuzzFeed's The 20 Worst Songs 00:30:07.440 --> 00:30:11.160 of the 90s. Man, I'm not going to lie. Hanson 00:30:11.160 --> 00:30:12.900 was one of those bands. That first album was 00:30:12.900 --> 00:30:15.220 very much geared towards the new kids on the 00:30:15.220 --> 00:30:18.180 block. It was the Justin Bieber of that time, 00:30:18.259 --> 00:30:22.599 only it was a pop trio. If you put on some later 00:30:22.599 --> 00:30:25.700 Hanson albums, the three brothers are ridiculously 00:30:25.700 --> 00:30:29.400 talented. They're incredible songwriters. There's 00:30:29.400 --> 00:30:32.539 a video out there that they recreate Shake Your 00:30:32.539 --> 00:30:35.390 Tail Feather. From the original Blues Brothers 00:30:35.390 --> 00:30:38.730 movie with one of their original songs. Really? 00:30:38.970 --> 00:30:42.069 Yes. And the song is called Thinking About Something. 00:30:42.529 --> 00:30:45.609 And they do kind of an homage to the Blues Brothers. 00:30:45.769 --> 00:30:49.849 And the song is so infectious and so catchy that 00:30:49.849 --> 00:30:51.910 I think it would blow a lot of people's minds. 00:30:52.009 --> 00:30:56.049 Now, the reason I put Mbop here, usually when 00:30:56.049 --> 00:30:58.230 Colburn and Company closes a show, we do a little 00:30:58.230 --> 00:31:01.069 mashup of songs. And it starts off with What 00:31:01.069 --> 00:31:04.430 I Got by Sublime. And from that, it goes into 00:31:04.430 --> 00:31:07.390 Chumbawamba's tub thumping. And then it goes 00:31:07.390 --> 00:31:10.789 back into What I Got. And then it goes into Sledgehammer 00:31:10.789 --> 00:31:14.049 by Peter Gabriel. Nice. And it goes back into 00:31:14.049 --> 00:31:17.289 What I Got. Then it goes into Sugar Ray's Fly. 00:31:17.890 --> 00:31:21.230 And from there, we go into Mbop. And the first 00:31:21.230 --> 00:31:23.309 time we did it, we literally said to ourselves, 00:31:23.450 --> 00:31:25.609 there's a good chance we're going to get shit 00:31:25.609 --> 00:31:29.660 thrown at us. If we try this. And when we started 00:31:29.660 --> 00:31:32.740 doing it, everybody turned and their faces lit 00:31:32.740 --> 00:31:35.700 up, guys and girls. And everyone started singing 00:31:35.700 --> 00:31:38.920 Mbop at the top of their lungs. And to me, that 00:31:38.920 --> 00:31:42.279 spoke a little nostalgia. I don't know what it 00:31:42.279 --> 00:31:46.319 is, but people love the song. And Busted, which 00:31:46.319 --> 00:31:50.480 is a UK group, recorded a 2 .0 punk version of 00:31:50.480 --> 00:31:53.460 the song last year with the members of Hanson. 00:31:53.500 --> 00:31:57.000 And it's actually. It's a bop, dude. Like they 00:31:57.000 --> 00:31:59.200 did a really good job with it. I would like to 00:31:59.200 --> 00:32:02.640 hear the punk version of Mbop. Sometimes I like 00:32:02.640 --> 00:32:06.980 hearing like a slightly different, harder take 00:32:06.980 --> 00:32:11.720 on stuff like Phil Collins and Invisible Touch. 00:32:11.880 --> 00:32:14.160 Oh, yeah. Genesis. Like you hear his version 00:32:14.160 --> 00:32:17.039 and you're like, OK, man, I'd be great if I heard 00:32:17.039 --> 00:32:19.920 a rock version. And I've heard some independent 00:32:19.920 --> 00:32:22.779 artists actually do a really good rock version 00:32:22.779 --> 00:32:26.430 of that. And I go, I like this. I like this more 00:32:26.430 --> 00:32:29.630 than I thought I would. So to hear a punk version 00:32:29.630 --> 00:32:33.529 of Mbop, I am intrigued. Definitely look that 00:32:33.529 --> 00:32:36.390 one up. The band is busted. It's called Mbop 00:32:36.390 --> 00:32:39.950 2 .0. And there you have it, folks. Love it or 00:32:39.950 --> 00:32:42.569 hate it, our guilt -free, guilty pleasures of 00:32:42.569 --> 00:32:46.130 the 90s side A mix, which kicked off with Butthole 00:32:46.130 --> 00:32:49.670 Surfer's Pepper, Crash Test Dummy's Mm -Mm -Mm 00:32:49.670 --> 00:32:53.650 -Mm, Hadaway's What Is Love, Aqua's Barbie Girl, 00:32:54.119 --> 00:32:57.720 Will Smith's Wild Wild West, Criss Cross Jump, 00:32:58.119 --> 00:33:02.599 Scatman John's Scatman, Tom Green's Lonely Swedish, 00:33:02.740 --> 00:33:05.599 The Bum Bum Song, Michael Jackson's Black or 00:33:05.599 --> 00:33:09.700 White, and Hanson's Mbop. Head over to myweeklymixtape 00:33:09.700 --> 00:33:12.160 .com to hear all the songs we've discussed in 00:33:12.160 --> 00:33:15.160 this mix through the playlist embedded on the 00:33:15.160 --> 00:33:18.250 episode page. Now, Zach, at the beginning of 00:33:18.250 --> 00:33:19.930 the show, you talked a little bit about NeatCast. 00:33:20.029 --> 00:33:22.009 Why don't you let listeners know a little bit 00:33:22.009 --> 00:33:24.470 about what you guys do over there and where they 00:33:24.470 --> 00:33:27.759 can find the show? So I've been with NeatCast 00:33:27.759 --> 00:33:31.980 for a little while, and we like to call ourselves 00:33:31.980 --> 00:33:34.119 a comedy podcast. I don't know if we're actually 00:33:34.119 --> 00:33:36.799 funny, but we have a good time doing it. We're 00:33:36.799 --> 00:33:39.740 very good friends with Bobby, Rick, and Griff 00:33:39.740 --> 00:33:43.980 over at FN Cultured. So we switch out guests 00:33:43.980 --> 00:33:45.720 left and right. We're constantly hazing each 00:33:45.720 --> 00:33:48.819 other. And we have a little bit different structure 00:33:48.819 --> 00:33:51.700 where we have what we call segments, and we each 00:33:51.700 --> 00:33:55.230 take a segment. Of an area that we just find 00:33:55.230 --> 00:33:57.470 interesting or stuff that we want to present. 00:33:57.589 --> 00:34:02.170 And I usually handle the more recent pop culture 00:34:02.170 --> 00:34:05.170 type news that you're going to find in the average 00:34:05.170 --> 00:34:09.070 radio show or blog or post on social media. But 00:34:09.070 --> 00:34:11.070 I'll bring it to you so that we can discuss it. 00:34:11.650 --> 00:34:14.849 Jeremy likes getting into the weird news. So 00:34:14.849 --> 00:34:16.889 some of the weird things that you go, oh, I can't 00:34:16.889 --> 00:34:19.610 believe that this guy speared this guy with a 00:34:19.610 --> 00:34:23.800 narwhal horn and he's going to jail for it. Here's 00:34:23.800 --> 00:34:26.280 a Bigfoot sighting or whatever it may be. It's 00:34:26.280 --> 00:34:28.239 more of the weirder news that you you're not 00:34:28.239 --> 00:34:32.460 sure if you believe or not. Michael brings the 00:34:32.460 --> 00:34:37.800 spook. He loves cryptids and phantoms and aliens. 00:34:37.940 --> 00:34:40.920 And he finds something to talk about every week 00:34:40.920 --> 00:34:45.119 and usually tries to back it up with evidence 00:34:45.119 --> 00:34:49.860 of some sort and first person stories. And then 00:34:49.860 --> 00:34:52.590 the last segment. with usually an improv that 00:34:52.590 --> 00:34:55.630 we will do a game or if we have a guest we let 00:34:55.630 --> 00:34:57.449 them do a talking point or whatever it is that 00:34:57.449 --> 00:34:59.309 the guest would like to do but we usually come 00:34:59.309 --> 00:35:00.909 up with something for the fourth segment and 00:35:00.909 --> 00:35:04.969 we always aim to be like less than an hour but 00:35:04.969 --> 00:35:07.469 usually it's like 90 minutes to two hours long 00:35:07.469 --> 00:35:10.730 we can't help it we talk a lot so we release 00:35:10.730 --> 00:35:13.730 that every monday uh and if you want to follow 00:35:13.730 --> 00:35:16.650 along learn more about neatcast or past episodes 00:35:16.650 --> 00:35:20.210 check out All the social media, it's all online 00:35:20.210 --> 00:35:24.710 at theneatcast .com. And while we're at it, let's 00:35:24.710 --> 00:35:26.510 not forget to talk about your other podcast, 00:35:26.809 --> 00:35:28.969 Podcasters Assembled. Why don't you talk a little 00:35:28.969 --> 00:35:32.159 bit about that one as well? So Podcasters Assemble 00:35:32.159 --> 00:35:37.099 is a movie hype series, very much akin to I Love 00:35:37.099 --> 00:35:40.760 the 80s, I Love the 90s style. You know what 00:35:40.760 --> 00:35:43.019 shows I'm talking about. You have a variety of 00:35:43.019 --> 00:35:45.400 celebrities talking about, I love this about 00:35:45.400 --> 00:35:48.639 the 80s or this song or this movie. And this 00:35:48.639 --> 00:35:51.730 started. when they were leading up to Endgame 00:35:51.730 --> 00:35:55.369 from the MCU, and they covered every film in 00:35:55.369 --> 00:35:59.550 the MCU leading up to Endgame within a month. 00:35:59.690 --> 00:36:03.349 And you had anywhere from five to eight podcasters 00:36:03.349 --> 00:36:06.030 submit their audio, they chopped it up, and they 00:36:06.030 --> 00:36:08.170 would talk about these movies. And then after 00:36:08.170 --> 00:36:10.469 Endgame happened, they went, oh, what do we do 00:36:10.469 --> 00:36:12.570 now? And they've covered a variety of different 00:36:12.570 --> 00:36:15.510 series over their seasons with movies that are 00:36:15.510 --> 00:36:18.989 coming out. So the Star Wars Skywalker saga. 00:36:19.480 --> 00:36:22.179 The James Bond movies, the Jurassic Park movies. 00:36:22.380 --> 00:36:24.760 We went through the Godzilla movies, Mortal Kombat, 00:36:25.079 --> 00:36:28.300 Indiana Jones, Ghostbusters. We're currently 00:36:28.300 --> 00:36:31.659 doing all the Ghibli or Ghibli films, depending 00:36:31.659 --> 00:36:35.079 on how you pronounce that. I never grew up on 00:36:35.079 --> 00:36:37.800 these. So for me, it's a fresh watch. I've never 00:36:37.800 --> 00:36:40.320 seen any of these. And it's a fun trip to see 00:36:40.320 --> 00:36:43.980 this whole other. I grew up on Disney. and Bluth 00:36:43.980 --> 00:36:47.260 Productions. So this is really cool. But then 00:36:47.260 --> 00:36:50.739 we also do occasional what we call disassembled 00:36:50.739 --> 00:36:53.000 episodes where it's more of a traditional podcast 00:36:53.000 --> 00:36:56.000 like this, where we've got four, maybe six of 00:36:56.000 --> 00:36:59.159 us podcasting, talking about a film. And usually 00:36:59.159 --> 00:37:01.260 those are more recent or an anniversary style, 00:37:01.480 --> 00:37:05.760 as opposed to the here's 15 people all chopped 00:37:05.760 --> 00:37:08.119 up into two hours talking about a film, which 00:37:08.119 --> 00:37:11.760 is that is an undertaking to edit that together. 00:37:12.280 --> 00:37:15.360 And I don't envy the editors and the producers 00:37:15.360 --> 00:37:18.739 on that. So kudos to you, gentlemen. Bravo. It's 00:37:18.739 --> 00:37:22.719 a great concept. Really enjoy both shows. And 00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:28.219 now we are going to start side B. And I get to 00:37:28.219 --> 00:37:30.760 kick this off. So I'm just going to hit this 00:37:30.760 --> 00:37:33.480 nail right on the head. Because for an opening 00:37:33.480 --> 00:37:37.559 song that considerably could be a guilty pleasure, 00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:41.019 at least for metal fans out there. I don't think 00:37:41.019 --> 00:37:43.699 there's a more divisive metal moment in the nineties 00:37:43.699 --> 00:37:46.440 than when Metallica cut their hair. Oh, very. 00:37:46.679 --> 00:37:50.820 And that to me was a moment people. Oh my God. 00:37:50.880 --> 00:37:56.880 The, the audacity of them to do that. I chose 00:37:56.880 --> 00:38:01.380 to kick off side B because people didn't like 00:38:01.380 --> 00:38:05.119 load, but people really didn't like reload for 00:38:05.119 --> 00:38:08.420 some reason. And yet when I saw Metallica this 00:38:08.420 --> 00:38:11.610 past summer, For the 72 Seasons World Tour, when 00:38:11.610 --> 00:38:15.289 they kicked into fuel, the place went nuts. But 00:38:15.289 --> 00:38:18.769 for some reason, it's still considered like part 00:38:18.769 --> 00:38:22.190 of the they cut their hair moment. And I don't 00:38:22.190 --> 00:38:24.889 know. It's still a kick -ass song. My neck's 00:38:24.889 --> 00:38:27.570 still sore from headbanging at it. Oh, see? You 00:38:27.570 --> 00:38:31.030 know. I've got the Razor Star in my arm. Metallica 00:38:31.030 --> 00:38:33.610 is one of the bands I've seen the most. And I 00:38:33.610 --> 00:38:36.489 would have loved to have gone to the... the 72 00:38:36.489 --> 00:38:40.090 season show they just unfortunately had it like 00:38:40.090 --> 00:38:43.869 one day day off one day there was no way i could 00:38:43.869 --> 00:38:46.010 afford the tickets at the time or work it out 00:38:46.010 --> 00:38:48.769 so it was like i've seen them every time since 00:38:48.769 --> 00:38:51.190 summer sanitarium i had seen them every tour 00:38:51.190 --> 00:38:53.630 up until that one went i just can't swing it 00:38:53.630 --> 00:38:58.420 now Father of two, different days. I can't do 00:38:58.420 --> 00:39:00.380 it. Sorry. We had to divide and conquer with 00:39:00.380 --> 00:39:02.780 my wife and I going one night, my daughter and 00:39:02.780 --> 00:39:05.039 I go in the other night just to kind of break 00:39:05.039 --> 00:39:07.659 things up a little bit because it was just so 00:39:07.659 --> 00:39:09.460 hard to do the scheduling. But I will give it 00:39:09.460 --> 00:39:12.920 this much. Metallica is closing in on their 60s. 00:39:13.219 --> 00:39:16.300 I don't know if it would behoove them to go back 00:39:16.300 --> 00:39:19.099 to back nights. And I think the tour could suffer. 00:39:19.219 --> 00:39:22.079 So I understand why they're doing it that way. 00:39:23.169 --> 00:39:25.409 And I'll be honest, they still bring it. I got 00:39:25.409 --> 00:39:28.309 the CDs from both nights. You were able to order 00:39:28.309 --> 00:39:30.530 them from the Metallica site. I listened back 00:39:30.530 --> 00:39:33.849 to the soundboards, man, for their age, there 00:39:33.849 --> 00:39:35.550 is no reason on this earth. They should still 00:39:35.550 --> 00:39:38.190 be rocking the way they do. And I'm just going 00:39:38.190 --> 00:39:42.550 to be the one to say it. I love the load album. 00:39:43.369 --> 00:39:47.079 I loved. That album. I still do. I think it's 00:39:47.079 --> 00:39:50.059 Metallica's take on Black Sabbath. Reload, I 00:39:50.059 --> 00:39:52.019 thought, was a little weaker because of the fact 00:39:52.019 --> 00:39:53.880 that there were some kind of songs that felt 00:39:53.880 --> 00:39:58.480 a little leftover. But overall, it's a hell of 00:39:58.480 --> 00:40:00.699 a lot stronger than St. Anger as far as I'm concerned. 00:40:00.880 --> 00:40:03.420 So, yes, kicking things off with Fuel. Yeah, 00:40:03.500 --> 00:40:09.420 that is one of my favorite Metallica songs from 00:40:09.420 --> 00:40:13.289 the 90s is Fuel because it's one of those. We 00:40:13.289 --> 00:40:16.769 don't care. We're in it. It's fast. It's not 00:40:16.769 --> 00:40:20.309 heavy, heavy old stuff, but it is hard rock and 00:40:20.309 --> 00:40:23.610 it's fast and I still enjoy it. You can't go 00:40:23.610 --> 00:40:27.769 wrong with Fuel. Anyone that gets offended by 00:40:27.769 --> 00:40:33.989 Metallica in the 90s, you know, bands are allowed 00:40:33.989 --> 00:40:36.929 to do what they want. ACDC put out basically 00:40:36.929 --> 00:40:39.889 the same album from 40 and I love every one of 00:40:39.889 --> 00:40:42.880 them. Love them. They could put out 50 new albums. 00:40:42.960 --> 00:40:45.599 I'm going to love them all the same. I actually 00:40:45.599 --> 00:40:47.960 respect the fact that Metallica was trying different 00:40:47.960 --> 00:40:51.179 things. Some of them worked. Some of them didn't. 00:40:51.179 --> 00:40:54.579 I'll be honest. Not a fan of Lulu. I gave it 00:40:54.579 --> 00:40:56.760 a listen. I am there with you. I wanted to hear 00:40:56.760 --> 00:41:00.159 what they were going for. And I did. And then 00:41:00.159 --> 00:41:03.400 I put it down. And I don't think I've tried it 00:41:03.400 --> 00:41:07.739 twice since it was released. And both times I 00:41:07.739 --> 00:41:10.570 was like, maybe time will. Give me different 00:41:10.570 --> 00:41:14.909 perspective. And so far, it hasn't. No, no, I'm 00:41:14.909 --> 00:41:17.489 there with you. And someday, if you ever just 00:41:17.489 --> 00:41:20.030 want to talk Metallica, I will talk Metallica 00:41:20.030 --> 00:41:22.710 with you. But we are making a mixtape. And I 00:41:22.710 --> 00:41:25.829 don't want to take up all the time talking about 00:41:25.829 --> 00:41:28.210 Metallica, although I'd love to. There's a lot 00:41:28.210 --> 00:41:30.389 of music we still need to get to on Side B. So 00:41:30.389 --> 00:41:34.150 what are you following up Fuel with? Gosh, oh, 00:41:34.329 --> 00:41:38.829 man, what's the slowest song I could pick? I'm 00:41:38.829 --> 00:41:39.969 trying to think of something that's going to 00:41:39.969 --> 00:41:45.250 be kind of fast -ish. It's not going to be as 00:41:45.250 --> 00:41:49.210 hard because, one, I don't want to just copy 00:41:49.210 --> 00:41:51.989 and paste and just continue with something like 00:41:51.989 --> 00:41:56.590 that. But I think I am going to stick with the 00:41:56.590 --> 00:42:01.210 rock theme at the moment. And I've got two I 00:42:01.210 --> 00:42:06.269 could go with, but I think I'll... I think I'll 00:42:06.269 --> 00:42:08.469 save that one. And also, I'm not actually sure. 00:42:08.570 --> 00:42:10.590 I think I just like that one. I don't even think 00:42:10.590 --> 00:42:13.090 that's a guilty pleasure. But I'm going to go 00:42:13.090 --> 00:42:18.210 with Gin Blossoms Found Out About You. Oh. Gin 00:42:18.210 --> 00:42:22.650 Blossoms, they were one of those 90 bands that, 00:42:22.650 --> 00:42:26.110 like, I found people were split on. Like, they 00:42:26.110 --> 00:42:29.349 seemed to, I like Gin Blossoms, but then I'd 00:42:29.349 --> 00:42:30.869 talk to someone else and be like, I can't freaking 00:42:30.869 --> 00:42:34.179 stand them. Why? What is it? I don't know. I 00:42:34.179 --> 00:42:39.679 just don't like them. Okay. Sorry. And I never 00:42:39.679 --> 00:42:42.099 had an issue with them. They came and played 00:42:42.099 --> 00:42:47.519 one of the small venues back in the mid 2010s. 00:42:47.599 --> 00:42:49.699 And I got to do the interview and meet the band, 00:42:49.780 --> 00:42:51.619 go backstage with them. And they were so laid 00:42:51.619 --> 00:42:54.480 back and nice. And they put on a hell of a show 00:42:54.480 --> 00:42:58.659 to a 400 person crowd. It was great. And I never 00:42:58.659 --> 00:43:02.820 understood. Just why people didn't like them. 00:43:02.840 --> 00:43:06.539 I understand not loving them, but I never did 00:43:06.539 --> 00:43:08.519 not like their music. I always enjoyed what they 00:43:08.519 --> 00:43:11.320 played. I mean, they're associated with Empire 00:43:11.320 --> 00:43:15.360 Records. So that right there has to be a plus 00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:19.500 one on Team Jim Blossoms. And then I'm just going 00:43:19.500 --> 00:43:21.860 to say it found out about you is my favorite 00:43:21.860 --> 00:43:24.539 Jim Blossom song because it reminds me of the 00:43:24.539 --> 00:43:28.280 cars. To me, that was a long lost car song. The 00:43:28.280 --> 00:43:32.420 harmonies, the delivery, it's power pop and it's 00:43:32.420 --> 00:43:35.940 fun and it's infectious, but it still had that 00:43:35.940 --> 00:43:38.440 90s feel. But you could take it back into the 00:43:38.440 --> 00:43:41.940 80s and it would have still worked. And that 00:43:41.940 --> 00:43:43.619 was something I felt like there's a timeless 00:43:43.619 --> 00:43:46.949 nature to found out about you. And, man, I love 00:43:46.949 --> 00:43:49.989 the Jim Blossoms, so I actually know where I'm 00:43:49.989 --> 00:43:52.130 going to go from here. Oh, good. I'm glad I made 00:43:52.130 --> 00:43:54.510 it easy for you. Yeah, this one's actually not 00:43:54.510 --> 00:43:57.389 hard because I went to a tour that was one of 00:43:57.389 --> 00:44:01.510 those 90s package tours. Oh, yeah. And the 90s 00:44:01.510 --> 00:44:08.449 package tour was Marcy Playground, Lit, Jim Blossoms, 00:44:08.590 --> 00:44:14.050 a band that I'm about to mention, and then Everclear 00:44:14.050 --> 00:44:17.550 Headlining. And the band that I'm about to mention 00:44:17.550 --> 00:44:21.710 was a band that when I discovered them, they 00:44:21.710 --> 00:44:26.949 were opening for Korn. They were a heavy hardcore 00:44:26.949 --> 00:44:32.789 slash punk band. Their album Lemonade and Brownies 00:44:32.789 --> 00:44:36.090 was getting tons of airplay on college radio 00:44:36.090 --> 00:44:41.510 stations. And my buddies and I spun this album 00:44:41.510 --> 00:44:45.480 nonstop. And then a couple of years later. they 00:44:45.480 --> 00:44:48.679 came back with fly and we're a whole new band. 00:44:49.099 --> 00:44:54.159 However, as much as fly was a pivot from lemonade 00:44:54.159 --> 00:44:58.480 and brownies, the song every morning seemed to 00:44:58.480 --> 00:45:02.219 be the song that people went, ah, sugar Ray. 00:45:02.500 --> 00:45:05.239 And I always got mad because I'm like, no, they're 00:45:05.239 --> 00:45:08.000 lemonade and brownies. They're lemonade and brownies 00:45:08.000 --> 00:45:09.880 because they were, they were a heavy hardcore 00:45:09.880 --> 00:45:14.429 band. And it was such a one 80 that I love Lemonade 00:45:14.429 --> 00:45:16.789 and Brownies as an album so much. I've forgiven 00:45:16.789 --> 00:45:18.949 everything they've done since. And I've gone 00:45:18.949 --> 00:45:23.190 to see them several times. And I even enjoy the 00:45:23.190 --> 00:45:25.809 poppier side of Sugar Ray. But damn it, I wish 00:45:25.809 --> 00:45:27.670 they did more stuff like Lemonade and Brownies 00:45:27.670 --> 00:45:31.150 because they were really good at it. And I actually 00:45:31.150 --> 00:45:34.150 have under one of my extras, I had Sugar Ray 00:45:34.150 --> 00:45:36.909 Fly, the featuring Super Cat, though, version. 00:45:36.949 --> 00:45:40.349 You got to have Super Cat. I heard the one without. 00:45:40.860 --> 00:45:43.159 super cat and it sounded so foreign to me because 00:45:43.159 --> 00:45:46.179 that was the only version i ever heard and then 00:45:46.179 --> 00:45:48.840 when he wasn't there i went what what is this 00:45:48.840 --> 00:45:51.760 it's empty this is fine i don't like it's empty 00:45:51.760 --> 00:45:55.719 yes that was it it was so empty and but again 00:45:55.719 --> 00:45:57.519 it was one of those extra songs where i went 00:45:57.519 --> 00:46:01.360 does this fit guilty pleasure or is it just what 00:46:01.360 --> 00:46:04.099 i mean again for me yes but is it a guilty pleasure 00:46:04.099 --> 00:46:09.260 for everyone no Your pick is definitely a guilty 00:46:09.260 --> 00:46:11.599 pleasure, in my opinion. And it's one of those 00:46:11.599 --> 00:46:15.099 songs that every time it comes on, I never turn 00:46:15.099 --> 00:46:18.320 it off and I find myself singing along with the 00:46:18.320 --> 00:46:20.440 chorus. But then I'm like, God, I got to go put 00:46:20.440 --> 00:46:22.260 on lemonade and brownies next because it's like 00:46:22.260 --> 00:46:25.829 it kind of whets your appetite. And if you have 00:46:25.829 --> 00:46:28.170 not heard Sugar Ray's Lemonade and Brownies, 00:46:28.230 --> 00:46:30.809 go back and listen to it and have your mind blown. 00:46:31.050 --> 00:46:33.110 Because for the first half of the album, when 00:46:33.110 --> 00:46:35.730 they're rapping and they're doing hardcore and 00:46:35.730 --> 00:46:38.070 punk and screaming, you're going to be sitting 00:46:38.070 --> 00:46:40.550 there going, this isn't the same band. But yes, 00:46:40.590 --> 00:46:46.250 it is. And now you get to follow up Metallica, 00:46:46.329 --> 00:46:51.389 Gin Blossoms and Sugar Ray. Hmm. Yeah, I'm gonna 00:46:51.389 --> 00:46:57.280 I'm gonna. continue to pivot but what do i want 00:46:57.280 --> 00:47:04.699 to pivot to i know there we go so i this was 00:47:04.699 --> 00:47:08.579 an artist that i heard a lot on the local stations 00:47:08.579 --> 00:47:11.099 we didn't have many much radio up in where i 00:47:11.099 --> 00:47:12.840 grew up in the white mountains of new hampshire 00:47:12.840 --> 00:47:17.900 so you would hear a lot of the the popular stuff 00:47:17.900 --> 00:47:20.639 as it was dropping and this artist i loved her 00:47:20.639 --> 00:47:23.670 voice But she was somebody I was never going 00:47:23.670 --> 00:47:27.110 to go see, just because, well, I can't go see 00:47:27.110 --> 00:47:32.309 her. I'm a boy. That'd be weird. But I had the 00:47:32.309 --> 00:47:36.670 opportunity to see her open up for Hart after 00:47:36.670 --> 00:47:39.510 the Wilson sisters got in their fight, and they 00:47:39.510 --> 00:47:41.889 separated, and then they came back for a tour, 00:47:41.949 --> 00:47:45.469 and they're getting along now again. But this 00:47:45.469 --> 00:47:48.610 little spitfire put on a hell of a show, was 00:47:48.610 --> 00:47:52.000 just as excited to be out. performing live and 00:47:52.000 --> 00:47:54.320 they came out with the Wilson sisters later and 00:47:54.320 --> 00:47:57.719 performed with them. I'm going to add Sheryl 00:47:57.719 --> 00:48:01.039 Crow. All I want to do. I am not going to lie. 00:48:01.320 --> 00:48:06.960 I love Sheryl Crow. I have a ton of her albums 00:48:06.960 --> 00:48:11.340 and Tuesday night music club is a nineties classic. 00:48:12.119 --> 00:48:16.719 I think the songs on it are incredible. They 00:48:16.719 --> 00:48:20.599 hold up. She's an incredible songwriter. And 00:48:20.599 --> 00:48:22.559 hey, going back to your Michael Jackson pick 00:48:22.559 --> 00:48:24.579 on Side A, she used to sing background vocals 00:48:24.579 --> 00:48:27.500 for him. So, I mean, she obviously has been in 00:48:27.500 --> 00:48:30.199 the industry for a long time. I love the fact 00:48:30.199 --> 00:48:31.920 that she's kind of pivoted a little bit into 00:48:31.920 --> 00:48:34.340 country music because her voice always had that 00:48:34.340 --> 00:48:37.639 tonality. And it works really well, but doesn't 00:48:37.639 --> 00:48:41.980 seem like you're trying to cram a circle into 00:48:41.980 --> 00:48:46.280 a square musically. It really fits. And she has 00:48:46.280 --> 00:48:48.719 a song called Prove You Wrong with Maren Morris 00:48:48.719 --> 00:48:50.960 and Stevie Nicks and the three of them together. 00:48:51.119 --> 00:48:55.920 It's an incredible trio of female vocal harmonies. 00:48:56.059 --> 00:48:59.559 She is one that I think just kind of got lumped 00:48:59.559 --> 00:49:03.639 into that saccharine 90s pop that I genuinely 00:49:03.639 --> 00:49:06.400 love. I don't know what the big deal was about 00:49:06.400 --> 00:49:11.840 it. So what's fun with Cheryl is. I play her 00:49:11.840 --> 00:49:15.280 on two of the radio stations, and one is a light 00:49:15.280 --> 00:49:18.300 AC, and you'll hear some Sheryl Crow, but then 00:49:18.300 --> 00:49:20.940 you will hear the countryside of her on the country 00:49:20.940 --> 00:49:23.000 station. So every once in a while, depending 00:49:23.000 --> 00:49:25.579 on which station we have playing over the PA, 00:49:25.739 --> 00:49:28.019 I'll be like, which station is on the PA? I'm 00:49:28.019 --> 00:49:30.699 hearing Sheryl. Which one is it? Oh, okay. We're 00:49:30.699 --> 00:49:32.719 listening to the country station today. Okay. 00:49:33.320 --> 00:49:35.980 Well, coming out of Sheryl Crow for track five, 00:49:36.019 --> 00:49:38.139 I'm going to stick with the female side of things 00:49:38.139 --> 00:49:41.739 here. And I'm going to go with a song that the 00:49:41.739 --> 00:49:45.199 band is a one hit wonder. And this song is very 00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:48.219 divisive. Either people love it or they hate 00:49:48.219 --> 00:49:50.840 it. We've covered the song and I can kind of 00:49:50.840 --> 00:49:53.340 look at the room and see where the audience lies 00:49:53.340 --> 00:49:58.800 on this track. I am love it for this song. Always 00:49:58.800 --> 00:50:03.539 have been, always will be. And I think. The singer 00:50:03.539 --> 00:50:07.280 -songwriter for this group is an incredible songwriter. 00:50:07.340 --> 00:50:10.320 She's had hits with Adele, Alicia Keys, Gwen 00:50:10.320 --> 00:50:14.960 Stefani, Cheap Trick, Christina Aguilera. However, 00:50:15.260 --> 00:50:18.219 when you go back to the 90s, one of the first 00:50:18.219 --> 00:50:22.179 songs that really got people either up in arms 00:50:22.179 --> 00:50:26.820 or into this group is Four Non Blondes' What's 00:50:26.820 --> 00:50:30.130 Up, Linda Perry. I think she's got an incredible 00:50:30.130 --> 00:50:34.150 voice. I love the cover that they do of Misty 00:50:34.150 --> 00:50:37.150 Mountain Hop on the 90s Zeppelin tribute album. 00:50:37.409 --> 00:50:41.050 I think the entire album for Four Non Blondes 00:50:41.050 --> 00:50:43.769 was incredible. But this song ranked number 10 00:50:43.769 --> 00:50:47.289 on both Rolling Stone's Reader's Poll of the 00:50:47.289 --> 00:50:50.590 Worst Songs of the 90s and American Songwriter's 00:50:50.590 --> 00:50:53.650 10 Worst Songs of the 90s. I don't know. You 00:50:53.650 --> 00:50:55.750 work with Country Station, so you're aware of 00:50:55.750 --> 00:50:59.789 this. laney wilson just did a cover of what's 00:50:59.789 --> 00:51:02.889 up for her most recent album and she kind of 00:51:02.889 --> 00:51:05.750 put a little bit of a country spin on it a well 00:51:05.750 --> 00:51:07.909 -written song is a well -written song and what's 00:51:07.909 --> 00:51:13.150 up to me is just a well -written song that is 00:51:13.150 --> 00:51:18.469 a good one and i actually had four non -blondes 00:51:18.469 --> 00:51:21.769 uh somewhere uh over on the side list of yeah 00:51:21.769 --> 00:51:23.630 that might be a possibility i might be able to 00:51:23.630 --> 00:51:26.599 toss that in there but I have heard quite a few. 00:51:26.679 --> 00:51:30.639 We're not pushing a lot of the new music, but 00:51:30.639 --> 00:51:32.579 we do spin it here and there, depending on how 00:51:32.579 --> 00:51:34.559 it charts, and you'll sprinkle it in here and 00:51:34.559 --> 00:51:38.719 there. But I have heard just over the past few 00:51:38.719 --> 00:51:40.840 years of my involvement with country, it's like, 00:51:40.920 --> 00:51:44.579 wait, this isn't the rock version. Wait, this 00:51:44.579 --> 00:51:47.599 isn't the pop version. Someone covered this, 00:51:47.719 --> 00:51:50.980 and it does well on the country station. It's 00:51:50.980 --> 00:51:57.079 interesting to see that. Luke and covering Tracy 00:51:57.079 --> 00:52:01.039 Chapman with Fast Car. That was one that all 00:52:01.039 --> 00:52:03.860 of a sudden just exploded. And I remember it 00:52:03.860 --> 00:52:07.639 from the 90s. And I remember seeing it pop up 00:52:07.639 --> 00:52:10.380 under the list. I went, that's not a guilty pleasure 00:52:10.380 --> 00:52:13.239 song. It can't be. But it also charged my mind 00:52:13.239 --> 00:52:15.420 with what you're talking about. You take something. 00:52:15.460 --> 00:52:18.260 It was a good song. It was a popular song. And 00:52:18.260 --> 00:52:21.619 here's somebody who's. Paying homage to Tracy 00:52:21.619 --> 00:52:23.719 and she performed with them. They did a hell 00:52:23.719 --> 00:52:26.860 of a duet, which was amazing at the award ceremony. 00:52:27.679 --> 00:52:30.699 It's awesome to see some of these great songs 00:52:30.699 --> 00:52:34.639 be reprised and be in a new light and a new sound 00:52:34.639 --> 00:52:37.960 and a new voice. It's I I find it very interesting 00:52:37.960 --> 00:52:41.860 and not the sidebar too much in the 90s. There 00:52:41.860 --> 00:52:44.880 was a point where songwriters were selling their 00:52:44.880 --> 00:52:48.500 songs to multiple artists. And I remember when 00:52:48.500 --> 00:52:51.239 I Swear was a hit for John Michael Montgomery 00:52:51.239 --> 00:52:55.139 on country radio and All For One on R &B and 00:52:55.139 --> 00:52:57.739 pop radio. And that was kind of that crossover 00:52:57.739 --> 00:53:00.420 appeal. And I think it also happened with Nobody 00:53:00.420 --> 00:53:04.000 Knows by the Tony Rich Project was also a country 00:53:04.000 --> 00:53:06.440 version at the same time. There was a lot of 00:53:06.440 --> 00:53:08.760 that happening. But that's a total sidebar for 00:53:08.760 --> 00:53:12.079 another time. You could make a playlist out of 00:53:12.079 --> 00:53:13.380 that. You certainly could. You could do it for 00:53:13.380 --> 00:53:15.780 decades. You could be like, you know, Manford 00:53:15.780 --> 00:53:17.840 Band to Earth Band. They're the ones known for 00:53:17.840 --> 00:53:20.460 Blinded by the Light. No one thinks of Springsteen. 00:53:20.500 --> 00:53:23.679 Yeah, exactly. That's just what people know it 00:53:23.679 --> 00:53:26.559 for. Putting a pin in a new episode idea. There 00:53:26.559 --> 00:53:30.400 we go. You're welcome. Glad I could help. So 00:53:30.400 --> 00:53:33.539 what are you following up what's up with? Yeah, 00:53:33.599 --> 00:53:36.599 I want to I like that. Do I want to speed things 00:53:36.599 --> 00:53:41.039 up? Do I want to kind of stay right there? Oh, 00:53:41.039 --> 00:53:46.760 man, this one, this one. OK, this is what I'm 00:53:46.760 --> 00:53:48.320 going to do, because I know there's people in 00:53:48.320 --> 00:53:51.739 my station that hate when this one plays, but 00:53:51.739 --> 00:53:56.599 I can't help it. I can't help it because it was 00:53:56.599 --> 00:53:58.699 an earworm when I heard it when I was growing 00:53:58.699 --> 00:54:03.030 up. There was something about it, and we're going 00:54:03.030 --> 00:54:05.989 to also stick with an artist similar to Sheryl 00:54:05.989 --> 00:54:09.289 who has transitioned from where they started 00:54:09.289 --> 00:54:12.670 to where he is now, is Hootie and the Blowfish, 00:54:12.869 --> 00:54:15.610 Only Wanna Be With You. Because Darius Rucker 00:54:15.610 --> 00:54:19.170 now is having a pretty good career in country, 00:54:19.409 --> 00:54:25.320 but in the 90s, this song was... And they had 00:54:25.320 --> 00:54:28.300 a few other hits that did do well, but this seemed 00:54:28.300 --> 00:54:31.860 to be the one for me all over the place. I know 00:54:31.860 --> 00:54:34.340 multiple people in my station that when this 00:54:34.340 --> 00:54:37.760 comes on, they go, oh, you're playing it again. 00:54:38.219 --> 00:54:41.760 The rotation is slow. It's been three days. Calm 00:54:41.760 --> 00:54:45.059 down. Look, when Hootie and the Blowfish first 00:54:45.059 --> 00:54:47.739 broke, I was down in college in North Carolina, 00:54:47.880 --> 00:54:49.539 and my buddies and I said, man, this could be 00:54:49.539 --> 00:54:54.079 played on country radio. top 40 radio with ease 00:54:54.079 --> 00:54:57.400 and just slide in and out and that was something 00:54:57.400 --> 00:54:59.400 i think that was very endearing about hooting 00:54:59.400 --> 00:55:01.960 the blowfish and probably what got them to the 00:55:01.960 --> 00:55:04.800 popularity that they were because the 90s was 00:55:04.800 --> 00:55:08.039 huge for country and if you had the ability to 00:55:08.039 --> 00:55:11.440 teeter that line between country and pop like 00:55:11.440 --> 00:55:15.280 a shania twain like a garth brooks like billy 00:55:15.280 --> 00:55:17.760 ray cyrus with achy breaky heart where you're 00:55:17.760 --> 00:55:20.780 getting that cross genre appeal another song 00:55:20.780 --> 00:55:23.989 that could easily fit into the 90s guilty pleasures 00:55:23.989 --> 00:55:27.449 oh yeah hooting the blowfish had a sound that 00:55:27.449 --> 00:55:30.550 worked well on two formats so they were creating 00:55:30.550 --> 00:55:35.070 two separate audiences that love them and to 00:55:35.070 --> 00:55:37.829 me there's nothing but respect for that and hooty 00:55:37.829 --> 00:55:41.559 obviously will not hooty darius rucker yeah Took 00:55:41.559 --> 00:55:44.739 country. I mean, that poor guy probably gets 00:55:44.739 --> 00:55:47.099 called Hootie like everywhere he goes. Hootie 00:55:47.099 --> 00:55:51.880 to his friend. You can call me Mr. Hoot. Thank 00:55:51.880 --> 00:55:56.380 you. Mr. Hoot. The Blowfish are out back. And 00:55:56.380 --> 00:55:59.679 to me, it's one of those groups that, I mean, 00:55:59.679 --> 00:56:02.179 they were embedded with the Friends lore because 00:56:02.179 --> 00:56:04.619 of the whole episode where they went to go see 00:56:04.619 --> 00:56:07.280 them. And Monica got the hickey from one of the 00:56:07.280 --> 00:56:10.139 Blowfish. Hootie and the Blowfish, believe it 00:56:10.139 --> 00:56:12.179 or not, I actually have every album they've ever 00:56:12.179 --> 00:56:14.619 released. I still enjoy their stuff. They're 00:56:14.619 --> 00:56:17.280 a hell of a show if you want to go see it. But 00:56:17.280 --> 00:56:19.599 Only Want to Be With You is probably their most 00:56:19.599 --> 00:56:23.199 overplayed song. So I agree with the pick here. 00:56:23.579 --> 00:56:26.920 Yeah, it is. But people love hearing it. It's 00:56:26.920 --> 00:56:30.639 one of their biggest hits for a reason. And I 00:56:30.639 --> 00:56:33.139 dropped a bomb at this point of Side A with Tom 00:56:33.139 --> 00:56:35.639 Green's Lonely Swedish. I'm going to drop a bomb 00:56:35.639 --> 00:56:39.510 here for Side B too. okay and pivot us a little 00:56:39.510 --> 00:56:42.929 bit it's a total 180 from hootie and the blowfish 00:56:42.929 --> 00:56:46.789 it's a cover song and you know how my feeling 00:56:46.789 --> 00:56:48.670 about i love my cover songs and if you're going 00:56:48.670 --> 00:56:51.750 to take a song and you're going to reinvent it 00:56:51.750 --> 00:56:55.610 and make it something new you better do it right 00:56:55.610 --> 00:57:00.909 and this was number one on buzzfeed's 20 worst 00:57:00.909 --> 00:57:04.599 songs of the 90s And number eight on Bustle's 00:57:04.599 --> 00:57:08.800 18 annoying 90s songs that we all listen to obsessively. 00:57:08.940 --> 00:57:11.519 Again, I really don't get that article title, 00:57:11.619 --> 00:57:15.000 but I digress. The first time I heard the opening 00:57:15.000 --> 00:57:18.940 chords to Limp Bizkit's Faith, I said, you've 00:57:18.940 --> 00:57:22.039 got to be kidding me. They're doing a version 00:57:22.039 --> 00:57:26.460 of George Michael? Oh, my God. Yes. Okay. When 00:57:26.460 --> 00:57:29.579 this song kicked in and he starts screaming Faith. 00:57:30.320 --> 00:57:33.380 I'll be honest. I loved the Faith album in the 00:57:33.380 --> 00:57:36.719 80s when a band had the balls to take this song 00:57:36.719 --> 00:57:39.840 and just make it this screaming, bloody murder, 00:57:40.000 --> 00:57:42.420 kind of punk rock, kind of hardcore, kind of 00:57:42.420 --> 00:57:46.960 new metal anthem. I was all in. And Limp Bizkit 00:57:46.960 --> 00:57:51.059 is one of those hated bands. Oh, they are. Like 00:57:51.059 --> 00:57:53.139 when you think about 90s hatred, they're like, 00:57:53.219 --> 00:57:55.639 oh, Limp Bizkit. And I don't know how they became 00:57:55.639 --> 00:57:59.460 kind of the. Maybe it was Woodstock 99. I don't 00:57:59.460 --> 00:58:01.340 know, but they kind of became the poster child 00:58:01.340 --> 00:58:05.460 for hated new metal. And I'm not going to lie. 00:58:05.559 --> 00:58:08.360 I still have tons of their songs on my phone. 00:58:08.840 --> 00:58:11.500 And hell, I was rocking dad vibes when they dropped 00:58:11.500 --> 00:58:14.000 that on their most recent album. I thought that 00:58:14.000 --> 00:58:16.920 song had a great groove to it. They're ridiculously 00:58:16.920 --> 00:58:20.800 talented musicians. Wes Borland's a frigging 00:58:20.800 --> 00:58:23.659 genius on guitar. And yeah, Fred Durst is Fred 00:58:23.659 --> 00:58:27.030 Durst, but. Not every song needs to be something 00:58:27.030 --> 00:58:29.750 impactful and meaningful. Sometimes you just 00:58:29.750 --> 00:58:32.190 need to have fun. And faith is frigging fun. 00:58:32.469 --> 00:58:37.429 And that is the band having fun. You know, there's 00:58:37.429 --> 00:58:40.150 been plenty of covers I've heard from rock bands 00:58:40.150 --> 00:58:42.849 that have put their spin on it. I've heard a 00:58:42.849 --> 00:58:45.210 fair share, you know, from Metallica. They have 00:58:45.210 --> 00:58:51.219 albums dedicated to it. God, you almost got like 00:58:51.219 --> 00:58:53.739 one album from Disturbed. Like it seemed like 00:58:53.739 --> 00:58:55.539 they were always throwing at least one cover 00:58:55.539 --> 00:58:58.579 in there. And sometimes I'd hear these covers 00:58:58.579 --> 00:59:01.599 by these hard rock bands and go, I like it. It's 00:59:01.599 --> 00:59:03.079 good. And then sometimes you hear it and be like, 00:59:03.179 --> 00:59:06.699 not sure that works. But kudos to you for trying. 00:59:06.960 --> 00:59:10.480 And Limp Bizkit's Faith was definitely not one 00:59:10.480 --> 00:59:13.960 of the ones that I listened to a lot or really 00:59:13.960 --> 00:59:16.550 enjoyed. I remember hearing it going. That is 00:59:16.550 --> 00:59:21.130 a choice. Well done. Well done, Limp Bizkit. 00:59:21.250 --> 00:59:23.909 All right, then. You have gotten my attention. 00:59:24.489 --> 00:59:26.869 And believe it or not, that's what the song did. 00:59:26.969 --> 00:59:31.010 It got everyone's attention. And it catapulted 00:59:31.010 --> 00:59:33.710 them to the level they were. Because that was 00:59:33.710 --> 00:59:38.090 the song that broke them. And to me, my favorite 00:59:38.090 --> 00:59:41.070 song is always going to be Break Stuff, Unabashedly. 00:59:41.070 --> 00:59:44.690 I love that track. A two -chord monster. But 00:59:44.690 --> 00:59:47.829 Faith was the one that when I would play it for 00:59:47.829 --> 00:59:49.909 people, they would either go, dude, that's the 00:59:49.909 --> 00:59:52.369 greatest thing I've ever heard. Or, you know, 00:59:52.389 --> 00:59:54.769 like Beavis and Butthead, this sucks like that. 00:59:54.769 --> 00:59:57.369 That was never an in -between. There was never 00:59:57.369 --> 01:00:00.789 a lukewarm. It was just like visceral hate or 01:00:00.789 --> 01:00:04.150 all in. And I think the divisiveness is what 01:00:04.150 --> 01:00:06.989 kind of creates that guilty pleasure lore, at 01:00:06.989 --> 01:00:11.760 least for Limp Bizkit. I agree. Now, this one, 01:00:11.840 --> 01:00:16.519 I'm going through my list now, and a lot of the 01:00:16.519 --> 01:00:19.079 stuff I have now, I'm getting down to, all right, 01:00:19.099 --> 01:00:23.219 these are now personal experience of me hearing 01:00:23.219 --> 01:00:26.760 something, enjoying it, and then witnessing other 01:00:26.760 --> 01:00:32.539 people shit all over it. And at the time, and 01:00:32.539 --> 01:00:35.880 I still actually like this song. It screams 90s 01:00:35.880 --> 01:00:40.440 to me. Powerful female vocals. But this sticks 01:00:40.440 --> 01:00:43.800 out to me because it was a song that my dad hated. 01:00:44.099 --> 01:00:46.960 And it may have been just because my parents 01:00:46.960 --> 01:00:49.360 were getting divorced and he had a horrible view 01:00:49.360 --> 01:00:52.420 of women and anything of women kind of talking 01:00:52.420 --> 01:00:55.480 about themselves and how they are. But I always 01:00:55.480 --> 01:00:58.940 enjoyed this. And I do chuckle the fact that 01:00:58.940 --> 01:01:01.719 it really pissed him off that he hated this song. 01:01:01.980 --> 01:01:06.019 But I'm going to go with Meredith Brooks' Bitch. 01:01:06.889 --> 01:01:10.269 Yeah, I like this song. I love it. And I never 01:01:10.269 --> 01:01:13.630 understood what was wrong with it. Because just 01:01:13.630 --> 01:01:16.949 her lyrics, she's just being blunt. She's like, 01:01:17.010 --> 01:01:19.889 this is who I am. This is what you're going to 01:01:19.889 --> 01:01:23.750 get. And I think if I'm going to psychoanalyze 01:01:23.750 --> 01:01:26.309 anybody, or at least the people that I know beyond 01:01:26.309 --> 01:01:29.150 my father as well that did not like this, it 01:01:29.150 --> 01:01:32.789 was because they felt challenged by it. By a... 01:01:33.130 --> 01:01:36.050 strong independent woman slash artist who was 01:01:36.050 --> 01:01:40.070 being this blunt and this being at this point 01:01:40.070 --> 01:01:41.570 of being like this is who I am this what I'm 01:01:41.570 --> 01:01:43.210 going to be this what you're going to get instead 01:01:43.210 --> 01:01:47.050 of the more let's say traditional approach of 01:01:47.050 --> 01:01:50.769 past generations and I think that's why when 01:01:50.769 --> 01:01:52.909 I was growing up hearing it and witnessing it 01:01:52.909 --> 01:01:55.130 from the older generation I went I don't get 01:01:55.130 --> 01:01:58.929 this but okay they don't like it I think that's 01:01:58.929 --> 01:02:02.849 a fantastic song one hit wonder But what a hit 01:02:02.849 --> 01:02:05.530 it was. I always thought it was powerful. It 01:02:05.530 --> 01:02:09.670 was catchy. And it was quote unquote controversial 01:02:09.670 --> 01:02:12.429 because she was somehow able to get away with 01:02:12.429 --> 01:02:16.170 using bitch multiple times in the song. And that 01:02:16.170 --> 01:02:18.829 was also part of it, I think, was that it was 01:02:18.829 --> 01:02:21.469 maybe offensive wasn't the right word, but it 01:02:21.469 --> 01:02:24.309 was challenging authority with being able to 01:02:24.309 --> 01:02:27.809 say this inappropriate word over and over during 01:02:27.809 --> 01:02:32.340 daytime radio. How dare you? children could hear 01:02:32.340 --> 01:02:35.000 this let me go drop an f -bomb in the next room 01:02:35.000 --> 01:02:37.719 when i hit my ham my hand with a thumb but that's 01:02:37.719 --> 01:02:40.980 fine well i will say this the night that i met 01:02:40.980 --> 01:02:44.360 my wife my wife and i met up in new hampshire 01:02:44.360 --> 01:02:47.519 at a dance club in west lebanon at the time going 01:02:47.519 --> 01:02:51.340 back 20 something years ago uh -huh and my buddy 01:02:51.340 --> 01:02:54.280 and i were driving to this club with a group 01:02:54.280 --> 01:02:56.519 of us we were all meeting there and we're listening 01:02:56.519 --> 01:02:59.400 to the radio in new hampshire a rock station 01:03:00.010 --> 01:03:02.690 And they were playing Candlebox You. And the 01:03:02.690 --> 01:03:04.269 whole song, my buddy and I are sitting there 01:03:04.269 --> 01:03:07.070 going, there is no way they got the balls to 01:03:07.070 --> 01:03:09.869 play the uncensored version. There's no way they're 01:03:09.869 --> 01:03:11.170 going to play the uncensored version. They're 01:03:11.170 --> 01:03:13.110 going to cut out. And all of a sudden, the third 01:03:13.110 --> 01:03:15.590 verse started kicking in. I'm like, dude, this 01:03:15.590 --> 01:03:18.170 is the album cut. Either the DJ doesn't know 01:03:18.170 --> 01:03:20.670 or they're going to play the album cut or they 01:03:20.670 --> 01:03:23.369 figured out a way to cut the F -bomb out of the 01:03:23.369 --> 01:03:27.070 song. And we're driving along and hand to God, 01:03:27.150 --> 01:03:30.039 may I be struck by lightning. both F -bombs got 01:03:30.039 --> 01:03:32.920 dropped in the song and it blew our mind that 01:03:32.920 --> 01:03:36.360 this was eight o 'clock on New Hampshire radio 01:03:36.360 --> 01:03:41.079 and they played the studio cut on accident. And 01:03:41.079 --> 01:03:43.539 we were like, we thought we were witnessing something 01:03:43.539 --> 01:03:45.380 that was kind of like epic. We're like, whoa, 01:03:45.559 --> 01:03:47.900 I can't believe this. And I always tell my wife 01:03:47.900 --> 01:03:49.880 that story. She goes, that's what you remember 01:03:49.880 --> 01:03:51.420 from the night we met. I'm like, oh, it was. 01:03:51.789 --> 01:03:53.769 You don't hear that often. You'd hear it in The 01:03:53.769 --> 01:03:57.829 Who, Who Are You, or Jet Airliner by Steve Miller, 01:03:57.909 --> 01:04:01.929 but never Candlebox. No, even with Fuel. There's 01:04:01.929 --> 01:04:04.949 an F -bomb in Fuel that we play. I mean, unless 01:04:04.949 --> 01:04:09.829 it's a very blatant F -drop, we play the unedited 01:04:09.829 --> 01:04:13.250 versions of almost all these songs because, in 01:04:13.250 --> 01:04:17.050 my opinion, that's what they were intended to 01:04:17.050 --> 01:04:20.780 be. But if it's blatant... I forget which one 01:04:20.780 --> 01:04:22.860 it is from Pink Floyd, but I had to edit that 01:04:22.860 --> 01:04:25.579 one out because, oh, what do you want from me? 01:04:25.659 --> 01:04:29.280 That one was very blatant. Yes. I couldn't let 01:04:29.280 --> 01:04:33.179 that one go through. Jet airliner. Who are you? 01:04:33.280 --> 01:04:36.679 You know, it fits. I mean, as a kid, you're sitting 01:04:36.679 --> 01:04:41.159 there going when it happened. All right. Coming 01:04:41.159 --> 01:04:44.519 out of bitch. I've got one song left and I am 01:04:44.519 --> 01:04:48.139 so torn because there are two bands. That I want 01:04:48.139 --> 01:04:51.579 to go to here because I feel like these two bands 01:04:51.579 --> 01:04:55.780 caught so much hate over the 90s that I want 01:04:55.780 --> 01:04:58.980 to spotlight. I'd love to spotlight both of them, 01:04:59.000 --> 01:05:05.260 but I'm down to one pick. So I'll give you a 01:05:05.260 --> 01:05:07.920 choice. Do we want to go upbeat and happy or 01:05:07.920 --> 01:05:11.480 do we want to go big, anthemic and soaring coming 01:05:11.480 --> 01:05:16.929 out of Meredith Brooks's bitch? Oh, boy. Oh, 01:05:16.929 --> 01:05:19.010 man. Now I have to think about what I want to 01:05:19.010 --> 01:05:23.469 end with because this would affect. So what am 01:05:23.469 --> 01:05:26.269 I to a big, upbeat and what? Upbeat and fun, 01:05:26.429 --> 01:05:30.869 little boppy kind of fun or big, soaring rock 01:05:30.869 --> 01:05:38.269 anthem. Let's do. Personally, I've never been 01:05:38.269 --> 01:05:42.449 a fan of ending on an anthem. I'd rather end 01:05:42.449 --> 01:05:47.280 with an upbeat kind of. than kind of the, like, 01:05:47.400 --> 01:05:50.880 if it's a slower anthem. So why don't you go 01:05:50.880 --> 01:05:53.739 with the, I'll try to cover, I'll try to end 01:05:53.739 --> 01:05:57.340 on the upbeat if you want to do this awesome 01:05:57.340 --> 01:06:00.300 anthem. Let's go with the anthem then. Should 01:06:00.300 --> 01:06:02.639 I spoil what the upbeat song was going to be? 01:06:03.039 --> 01:06:05.760 Yeah, I mean, probably go ahead, you know, but 01:06:05.760 --> 01:06:07.739 I may also be shooting myself in the foot by 01:06:07.739 --> 01:06:09.400 having you do this anthem if it's what I think 01:06:09.400 --> 01:06:11.980 it is, but continue. Okay, well, the upbeat song 01:06:11.980 --> 01:06:16.239 was Smash Mouth All Star. Because the song just 01:06:16.239 --> 01:06:20.099 was everywhere, inescapable. It was in movies, 01:06:20.280 --> 01:06:23.599 TV shows, commercials. I mean, like you were 01:06:23.599 --> 01:06:25.199 in Kohl's and the song was always played. It 01:06:25.199 --> 01:06:28.440 was everywhere. Couldn't escape it. And I'll 01:06:28.440 --> 01:06:30.460 be honest, I love Smash Mouth. Walking on the 01:06:30.460 --> 01:06:34.539 Sun is one of my favorite songs of the 90s. And 01:06:34.539 --> 01:06:37.360 then All Star made them kind of this hated band. 01:06:37.480 --> 01:06:40.119 And I never understood it because I think the 01:06:40.119 --> 01:06:43.360 song was just too popular for its britches. But. 01:06:43.440 --> 01:06:46.630 Yep. I am going to go with a song that kind of 01:06:46.630 --> 01:06:50.969 became the poster child for the term butt rock. 01:06:51.190 --> 01:06:53.630 And we're going to go with Creed and higher. 01:06:54.110 --> 01:06:58.929 Okay. I saw Creed play this song at a radio show 01:06:58.929 --> 01:07:01.909 at Irving Plaza in New York City. The lineup 01:07:01.909 --> 01:07:07.690 was Oleander, Our Lady Peace, and Creed. 1999. 01:07:08.730 --> 01:07:12.010 All three of the bands commanded the stage and 01:07:12.010 --> 01:07:15.429 Creed debuted higher that night. Human Clay came 01:07:15.429 --> 01:07:18.570 out the next day. When they played this song, 01:07:18.710 --> 01:07:21.250 you looked out in the audience and people were 01:07:21.250 --> 01:07:24.170 just blown away by the song. And I said to my 01:07:24.170 --> 01:07:27.769 buddy, this thing is going to be frigging massive, 01:07:27.809 --> 01:07:31.269 this song. And it was. But then it became so 01:07:31.269 --> 01:07:35.050 massive, it kind of became the poster child for 01:07:35.050 --> 01:07:37.250 that term butt rock, which I don't like. It's 01:07:37.250 --> 01:07:40.579 just. hard rock music i mean all those bands 01:07:40.579 --> 01:07:43.400 that they kind of lump into that it was just 01:07:43.400 --> 01:07:45.920 kind of a derogatory blabbermouth term that i 01:07:45.920 --> 01:07:49.380 really feel like hell creed is selling out cruises 01:07:49.380 --> 01:07:52.920 now they're they're back in 2024 they're doing 01:07:52.920 --> 01:07:56.260 tours again did they have their moments that 01:07:56.260 --> 01:07:59.179 might have been a little off sure but i go back 01:07:59.179 --> 01:08:01.260 and listen to the first few creed albums and 01:08:01.260 --> 01:08:04.320 there's a lot of great music on there and i don't 01:08:04.320 --> 01:08:07.619 understand maybe it was the I don't want to say 01:08:07.619 --> 01:08:11.079 religious nature of some of the lyrics. Maybe 01:08:11.079 --> 01:08:14.699 I don't know what it was, but Creed got the Nickelback 01:08:14.699 --> 01:08:17.359 hate before Nickelback hate became Nickelback 01:08:17.359 --> 01:08:19.569 hate. I was actually going to make that next 01:08:19.569 --> 01:08:22.289 point was going to be Creed was pre Nickelback 01:08:22.289 --> 01:08:25.630 because I think and I think the similarities 01:08:25.630 --> 01:08:29.989 between Creed and Nickelback are you can listen 01:08:29.989 --> 01:08:33.649 to some Creed songs go, OK, this is rock. But 01:08:33.649 --> 01:08:36.210 then you get something like higher. And then 01:08:36.210 --> 01:08:38.489 all of a sudden I remember one of my teachers 01:08:38.489 --> 01:08:41.149 because we were just have CDs playing in our 01:08:41.149 --> 01:08:43.729 I .T. class just when we were doing work and 01:08:43.729 --> 01:08:47.270 higher was coming from somebody's. PC through 01:08:47.270 --> 01:08:49.949 the speakers and he's like whatever that is you 01:08:49.949 --> 01:08:52.850 turn off that chick music and he was former military 01:08:52.850 --> 01:08:55.770 and he was just like god damn Creed music and 01:08:55.770 --> 01:08:58.989 went off about it and it was like okay we know 01:08:58.989 --> 01:09:02.750 he doesn't like Creed and Nickelback Nickelback 01:09:02.750 --> 01:09:06.010 I think took what Creed was doing and they said 01:09:06.010 --> 01:09:09.489 hold my beer and they went so much further because 01:09:09.489 --> 01:09:12.909 they had been so successful that People hate 01:09:12.909 --> 01:09:16.270 them, partially for their success, also because 01:09:16.270 --> 01:09:19.810 they have songs that are fast, hard rock songs, 01:09:20.010 --> 01:09:23.609 and then they have this softer side, which shows 01:09:23.609 --> 01:09:28.649 range, but in many people's views, I think, is 01:09:28.649 --> 01:09:32.789 a... I don't know. It's taking a soft approach 01:09:32.789 --> 01:09:35.149 to being what you're supposed to be known for 01:09:35.149 --> 01:09:38.729 rocking out, you know, as as the band Nickelback. 01:09:39.109 --> 01:09:42.289 But I saw them. I didn't see them live in concert 01:09:42.289 --> 01:09:45.250 and they put on a hell of a show. So I don't 01:09:45.250 --> 01:09:47.689 know what people I mean, I know why people don't 01:09:47.689 --> 01:09:51.409 like them, but also at the same time, I can go 01:09:51.409 --> 01:09:53.890 see them live. It was still a still a good show. 01:09:54.050 --> 01:09:58.750 I'll say this. Creed and Nickelback were both 01:09:58.750 --> 01:10:02.979 modern era Bon Jovi. To me, Bon Jovi did it in 01:10:02.979 --> 01:10:05.520 the 80s. They had hard rock and heavy songs that 01:10:05.520 --> 01:10:08.180 the guys liked. You Give Love a Bad Name. That 01:10:08.180 --> 01:10:11.319 was a good hard rock song. Let it rock. But then 01:10:11.319 --> 01:10:15.279 you had your power ballads. And they did it so 01:10:15.279 --> 01:10:18.260 well. And Nickelback just kind of took the same 01:10:18.260 --> 01:10:20.579 formula. And so did Creed. We got the heavier 01:10:20.579 --> 01:10:24.060 side. We got the lighter side. And it works. 01:10:24.319 --> 01:10:27.399 They're still selling out stadiums and arenas. 01:10:29.260 --> 01:10:32.300 So what? Who cares? So, yeah, I put Creed on 01:10:32.300 --> 01:10:34.239 here. I know people. I know there's going to 01:10:34.239 --> 01:10:36.039 be somebody who's going to be angry. You're going 01:10:36.039 --> 01:10:39.199 to get some hate, which means I can't let you 01:10:39.199 --> 01:10:41.399 be alone. I can't let you. I appreciate that. 01:10:41.720 --> 01:10:47.579 I am going to end with something that will probably 01:10:47.579 --> 01:10:49.859 get a little bit of hate as well so that we can 01:10:49.859 --> 01:10:51.539 share this together, because I feel we've really 01:10:51.539 --> 01:10:56.100 bonded over the past hour and. 20 minutes or 01:10:56.100 --> 01:10:58.260 however long it's been. There's a lot I could 01:10:58.260 --> 01:10:59.640 choose with, but I'm going to choose something 01:10:59.640 --> 01:11:03.039 that's upbeat, quick, annoying for many people. 01:11:04.000 --> 01:11:07.140 And they're really, really popular now with Dune 01:11:07.140 --> 01:11:11.380 coming out. It's Spice Girls Wannabe. Yes. Thank 01:11:11.380 --> 01:11:16.060 you. You're welcome. Look, if Zebra Head covers 01:11:16.060 --> 01:11:19.470 the song in punk rock fashion. Just like I said 01:11:19.470 --> 01:11:22.649 about Aqua's Barbie girl. That's a stamp of approval. 01:11:22.789 --> 01:11:25.770 That's the zebra head stamp of approval. Zebra 01:11:25.770 --> 01:11:28.689 head has an entire album out called panty raid. 01:11:28.869 --> 01:11:33.189 And it's all punk versions of female songs. It's 01:11:33.189 --> 01:11:37.449 a really fun album. Get this party started. Want 01:11:37.449 --> 01:11:40.789 to be all these good female pop songs. And they 01:11:40.789 --> 01:11:43.789 went and punk eyes them. And it's so much fun. 01:11:43.850 --> 01:11:46.750 Such a great listen. I loved Wannabe when it 01:11:46.750 --> 01:11:49.949 came out. I was in a punk band in the early 2000s. 01:11:49.949 --> 01:11:51.989 And in the middle of our song, we would break 01:11:51.989 --> 01:11:55.350 out to the rap part of Wannabe just in punk form. 01:11:55.829 --> 01:11:58.949 Just because the song was so much fun. It was 01:11:58.949 --> 01:12:02.810 so infectious. God, there's not a bad thing about 01:12:02.810 --> 01:12:04.750 this song. But I will tell this story because 01:12:04.750 --> 01:12:07.470 one of my closest friends on the planet, Bob 01:12:07.470 --> 01:12:09.710 and I were back in college together. He is now 01:12:09.710 --> 01:12:13.550 my daughter's godfather. And we went to the theater 01:12:13.550 --> 01:12:15.550 one night. We're like, let's just go catch a 01:12:15.550 --> 01:12:18.369 flick. We're not tired. It was a nine o 'clock 01:12:18.369 --> 01:12:21.949 showing of two movies. We had a choice. And it 01:12:21.949 --> 01:12:24.189 was the Spice Girls, whatever that was called, 01:12:24.289 --> 01:12:27.189 Spice World movie. Oh, yeah. Yeah, Spice World. 01:12:27.289 --> 01:12:31.189 Or Deep Rising with Treat Williams. And we went 01:12:31.189 --> 01:12:33.970 with Deep Rising. And Deep Rising was one of 01:12:33.970 --> 01:12:37.369 the worst horror movies. It was about this alien 01:12:37.369 --> 01:12:42.439 creature on a submarine, whatever. Oh, yeah. 01:12:42.560 --> 01:12:44.520 Opening scene of the movie. This person sits 01:12:44.520 --> 01:12:48.560 on the toilet and the being just sucks them into 01:12:48.560 --> 01:12:51.520 the toilet. Never breaks the actual toilet, though. 01:12:51.539 --> 01:12:53.659 The whole human body just kind of like it was 01:12:53.659 --> 01:12:57.359 so bad. It was brilliant. And we laughed so hard 01:12:57.359 --> 01:13:00.479 through that movie. But for the last almost 30 01:13:00.479 --> 01:13:03.520 years, we were like, what would have happened 01:13:03.520 --> 01:13:05.960 if we saw Spice World instead? It's always become 01:13:05.960 --> 01:13:08.460 the it was like the fork in the road. And we 01:13:08.460 --> 01:13:13.380 went to. deep rising instead of did we did we 01:13:13.380 --> 01:13:15.659 choose the right universe did we should we have 01:13:15.659 --> 01:13:19.579 gone should we is this is this are you were you 01:13:19.579 --> 01:13:21.380 the catalyst that has brought us to this place 01:13:21.380 --> 01:13:25.699 in this universe brian should do it but at the 01:13:25.699 --> 01:13:28.079 end of the day what a great way to close outside 01:13:28.079 --> 01:13:32.260 be a very eclectic Side B of our guilt -free 01:13:32.260 --> 01:13:36.380 90s guilty pleasures with kicked off with Metallica's 01:13:36.380 --> 01:13:40.159 Fuel. Gin Blossoms found out about you. Sugar 01:13:40.159 --> 01:13:43.199 Rays every morning. Sheryl Crow's All I Want 01:13:43.199 --> 01:13:46.279 to Do. Four Non Blondes What's Up. Hootie and 01:13:46.279 --> 01:13:48.880 the Blowfishes Only Want to Be With You. Limp 01:13:48.880 --> 01:13:52.500 Bizkit's Faith. 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