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Welcome to My Weekly Mixtape, a podcast that

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takes the classic mixtape approach to building

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a modern playlist. I'm your host, Brian Colburn.

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Joining me once again to wrap up a year in music,

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and for the record, what a year it was, is DT

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Carell, host of Space Castle. DT, welcome back,

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my friend. Dude, it is always a pleasure. I look

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forward to this every year now. Please invite

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me back every single year because it's like my

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favorite thing to do at the end of every year.

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It's awesome. I think it's a tradition at this

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point, right? I'm good with that, man. This is

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my Thanksgiving. This is my Christmas. Well,

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there you go. I'm glad this is, I mean, we're

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setting the bar low for that. I hope the rest

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of the holidays are good for you. But 2024 was

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a very eclectic and busy year in music overall.

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So what were you looking for in the songs you

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brought to the table this evening? Oh, man. So

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I'm a huge pop fan. A lot of people don't know

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that about me. People who know me best know that

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about me. But this is just a phenomenal year

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for pop music. Like so many great artists broke

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out this year. A few of them made my list. And

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it was also a great year for... post -hardcore

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out of nowhere, which was amazing. Sky Punk and

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punk bands came out of nowhere and had a revival.

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The usual stable of legendary hip -hop artists

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put out some amazing music this year. This year,

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I just wanted to try and capture all of that

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and capture my favorites from every genre that

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just had a phenomenal 2024 and hopefully maybe

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introduce some people into some new stuff that

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they maybe haven't dived into up to this point.

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Yeah, my list is kind of ridiculously insane.

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It's a mix of artists that are household names

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and other artists that people might have never

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heard of before. And I think that's going to

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be interesting to see. Well, I'll just say this

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from the bat. This is not going to be your typical

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2024 playlist, at least from my picks. I have

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a feeling that what the mainstream. publications

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are going to be publishing for their songs at

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2024 and the my weekly mixtape space castle 2024

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playlist are going to be two different animals

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tonight i'm just going to go ahead and guess

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that based off last year and playlist wars the

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year before i'm expecting this one to go off

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the rails quick Yeah, 100%. I can't wait. Well,

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let's get down to business. As I mentioned at

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the top of the show, DT and I will be curating

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the ultimate 2024 mixtape, and we'll use the

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old cassette deck approach. DT, as my special

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guest, will begin side A with his first song

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choice, and then I'll add a song that I feel

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best follows up his choice. We'll then flip -flop

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choosing songs until we've mapped out 10 songs

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for side A. We'll then give our mixtape a proverbial

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flip and we'll map outside, be only this time

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I'll kick things off with DT choosing second.

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Our overall goal for this episode is to craft

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the best 2024 mixtape possible through only 20

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songs. At the end of the show, you can take our

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conversation to the next level by visiting the

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episode page at myweeklymixtape .com to give

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our final mixtape a listen. via the embedded

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and so much more. And a few of the Patreon mixtapers

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chimed in with songs they would use to kick things

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off tonight, and I want to give a shout out to

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a few of those. Brandon from Virginia chimed

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in with Bicycle Stranges' The Fretless Guitar

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Jams, Volume 1. Sean Goff chimed in with Bring

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Me the Horizons, Utopia. Yeah. Chad LaMassa chimed

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in with Cursive's Impostoring, saying that a

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band this deep in their career rarely releases

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a song that instantly becomes a third favorite

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song of their entire catalog. Mike Daly chimed

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in with Slash's Crossroads from his incredible

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Orgy of the Damned LP that featured Gary Clark

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Jr., saying his spin on this song is fantastic.

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And Chris Pizica chimed in with a pick that...

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Really does hit home for me because, you know,

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age and all. And that is Frank Turner's Never

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Mind the Back Problems. Awesome pick. Oh, it's

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a great tune. Once again, if you'd like to chime

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in for future My Weekly Mixtape episodes, come

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join the fellow mixtapers at patreon .com forward

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slash My Weekly Mixtape. And DT, with that said,

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I'm officially pressing the record button on

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our mixtape and the floor is yours. What song

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are you kicking off our ultimate 2024 playlist

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with? It's gotta be Good Luck, Babe by Chapel

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Roan. Who had a bigger 2024 than Chapel Roan?

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I've been a fan for quite a while now. I was

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a follower on her TikTok and watched all her

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videos on YouTube. And she was just quietly this

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sort of kick -ass, awesome pop star slash drag

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queen who was just doing her thing and just doing

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amazing things. 2024 came along and she just

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exploded. Jumping onto the scene and touring

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with Olivia Rodrigo and Sabrina Carpenter and

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doing all these awesome things. And she's just

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taking the world by storm. And her album that

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released in 2023, The Rise and Fall of a Midwest

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Princess, was fantastic. And if I could, I would

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pick one of the tracks from that. But we're doing

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2024, and it's got to be the single she released

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this year, which she also performed at the VMAs.

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And it was just an incredible performance. It's

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Good Luck Babe by Chapel Roan. It's just amazing.

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She is quickly becoming a mainstay in not only

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pop culture, but pop music too. I think she's

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phenomenal. Couldn't agree more. I've heard a

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lot of it this year from my girls. The song reached

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number four on the US Billboard Hot 100, Canadian

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Hot 100, and Australia ARIA charts, number two

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on the UK Singles chart, and number five on the

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Global 200. It also reached the coveted number

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one spot in Ireland and was a top 10 hit in seven

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other countries. This song is breezy, synthy.

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And I even want to say it has a cross -pollination

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of like 80s new wave with modern indie pop. 100%,

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yeah. This is considered by a lot of people to

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be her quote -unquote breakout song, but I don't

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know if it was as inescapable as Hot To Go because

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maybe it's just the fact that my kids did the

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H -O -T -T -O -G -O over and over again. Yeah.

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For the better part of the year. Yeah, that was

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definitely her breakout track. But I think she's

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already growing and evolving as an artist. And

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I think Good Luck, Babe is a huge evolution just

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from the rise and fall of a Midwest presence.

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I just can't wait to see what she does in the

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future because this song blew me away in comparison

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to music from her I already previously loved.

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Well, I think to follow that up, I am actually

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going to go with another breakout star in 2024

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because. I think a lot of people are looking

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forward to see what Chapel Rome brings to 2025.

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And this is an artist that I really am looking

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forward to, to see what he brings to 2025 and

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beyond. And I'm going to stay in that pop range

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and I'm going to cheat a little bit. Who's going

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to stop you, right? Right. I mean, I make the

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rules up as I go along anyway, but this song

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was released on his 2023 album. I tried everything

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in therapy part one. However, In 2024, he released

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I've Tried Everything in Therapy Part 1 .5. So

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there's my loophole to pull a song from this

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album. I'm going with Teddy Swims. Now, obviously,

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when I say his name, a lot of people are going

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to gravitate to his second single and Billboard

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number one smash hit, Lose Control, which did

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come out in 2023, as well as The Door, which

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reached number 24 on the Billboard US Hot 100.

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But I'm actually going to go with an album track

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that to this day, I am shocked was not released

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as a single because I think it's the strongest

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song on the album. And it's everything I love

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about Teddy Swims in a song. And it's the track.

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Goodbye's been good to you. This is definitely

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one of the how the hell is this an album only

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track moments of 2024 for me. The song oozes

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with swagger. It's funky. It's swampy. And his

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voice is gravel sits over the song with a Joe

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Cocker S confidence that you don't hear in pop

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music nowadays. And early in 2025, I've tried

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everything, but therapy part two is coming our

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way. And I can already tell you. There's probably

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a good chance a year from now, you and I are

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going to be talking about another song from that

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one, because I think Teddy Swims is just going

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to be one of those people that like Chapel Roan

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is going to continue to explode. I completely

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agree. The production value on that track is

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incredible. It is so rich and so warm. I just

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want to envelop myself in it. It's just so cozy.

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And at the same time, exciting and hip and cool.

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And like you said, he's just got such a swagger

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to him. And it's just a fun track. I love the

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choice. And even though we're neck and neck as

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far as breakup and bad relationship songs all

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of a sudden, right out of the gate, the one you

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picked is so warm and so cozy and just so simultaneously

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introspective, but also uplifting at the same

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time. It's a wonderful track. I love it. I think

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I've played that track more than maybe any other

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track this year. It was sitting second in my

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playlist with the first track being something

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I am probably going to talk about a little later

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in the evening. But this one, every time that

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song opens and he starts with the vocals and

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the hand claps are going behind them, like you

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are just like the groove hits you immediately

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and you're all the way in. But I'll be curious.

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We've got pop and we've got this swampy pop.

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Where do we go from here? Well, there's this

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guy who was born and raised in Detroit and he's

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sort of this underground musician. I don't know

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if you've heard of him. His name is Jack White.

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He wrote this song way back in the 2000s called

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Seven Nation Army and it was a minor hit, you

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know, whatever. Anyway, he did a bunch of stuff.

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He's done a bunch of albums since. He comes back

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in 2024 and he... just all of a sudden releases

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this album online for free and encourages people

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to pirate it and burn it to CDs and sort of distribute

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it and do whatever they want with it. And then

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all of a sudden he starts doing secret shows

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across the country. We're usually announcing

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them like the day before and tickets are selling

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out like crazy. The man is creating an absolute

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stir, but he put this album out entirely for

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free. It's called No Name because he just listed

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it out as like track one, track two, track three,

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threw it out there as MP3s. It is a full return

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to not only his roots as a musician in the White

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Stripes, but even going back further than that

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to his days in like the Upholsterers. This album

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is just no nonsense, dirty, grungy, garage rock,

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where it just sounds like he just recorded every

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instrument himself in his basement. And it is

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wonderful. And he put out this track called Bombing

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Out. And it's like the third track on the album.

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And I just love this track. It feels like you're

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listening to it from 50 yards away because it's

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so distorted and so removed. And I just, I love

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the feel because I love the White Stripes. I

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love the Rock Contours, but I really love the

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Upholsterers, which was a band he was in like

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way back in the 90s before anybody knew who he

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was. And the track is just so much fun. It was

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hard to pick a track off the album because everything

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is just 100 % why I've loved Jack White for 20

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plus years now. And it's just crunchy. And it's

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just him going off and having a blast and just

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writing whatever the F he wants to write. And

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I'm along for the ride because I love Jack White,

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but I haven't loved his last two solo albums

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as much as I wanted to. And this one just makes

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up for it like a thousand times over. So it's

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Jack White bombing out off of No Name. Love it.

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As far as I'm concerned, this immediately jumped

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to Jack's strongest solo outing to date, I think,

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over everything he's done. And it might be and

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I'm going to catch some flack for this. It might

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be neck and neck with even some of the White

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Stripes albums. This album is raw garage blues

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punk experimental that we all came to love a

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quarter of a century ago from Jack. And I feel

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like this is his return to. flexing his musical

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muscles because yeah i don't know if i was such

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a big fan of 2022's entering heaven alive it

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was a little too experimental for me he was like

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rapping and it just didn't really work like it

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didn't feel right lazaretto was a little bit

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more like mainstream jack white but still just

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didn't quite feel right either and this is just

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him stripped down and i think that's where he

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belongs is just clean like no layers just him

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raw doing whatever he wants to do And along with

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the MP3s that you talked about, I got to give

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him some props with the most creative release

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strategy of the year, because at several third

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man record stores around the country and around

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the world, I think one in London and two in the

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US, he actually just started putting unmarked

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vinyl copies of the album in with other sales

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and just giving it away in the store before the

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digital release in July and the physical release

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in August. So creative testing new ways to get

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the music out there in a world where people kind

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of they have expectations now with the way they

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get their music because of streaming. And I feel

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like this is Jack's way of both flipping his

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nose at that as well as doing something that

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might pave the way for new albums in the future.

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Yeah, absolutely. It's a different way of engaging

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with the audience and getting them invested and

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getting them excited about something. Instead

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of just waiting for it to drop at midnight on

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Spotify, which in and of itself is fully cool

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and exciting and whatnot. But like you said,

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an entirely different strategy of releasing an

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album and just doing it randomly. Like, here's

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a brand new Jack White album. It's out there.

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Rip it. Share it with all your friends. Do whatever

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you want with it. That's incredible and selfless

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and genius. And along with exciting release strategies,

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I'm going to tap into that for my next pick.

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Because I feel like Pearl Jam knocked it out

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of the park this year with Dark Matter. I feel

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like the way Jack returned to form on No Name,

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Pearl Jam did on Dark Matter. And their release

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strategy was to put the album out in theaters

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and play the album twice through. Once in a completely

00:14:50.669 --> 00:14:54.090
darkened theater where you're sitting with a

00:14:54.090 --> 00:14:57.909
bunch of peers listening to this album in complete

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darkness. Dark Matter. And then after that, playing

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the album a second time with a visual element

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added on screen. So I feel like that was a very

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creative way to build up hype around the album.

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But at the end of the day, Wreckage from that

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album is the best Pearl Jam song that the band

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has released maybe since Better Man or Given

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a Fly, for me at least, in my humble opinion.

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Yeah, like the last 20 years at least. It is

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a wonderful track. It's great. There's something

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that's timeless about it. And Eddie Vedder has

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said that the song has both political and relationship

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undertones. And with Eddie Vedder, that's two

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things he sings about quite often. So you could

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kind of take where you want to sit with the lyrics

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and take it wherever you want to go. And I hear

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both of those at play. But to me, Dark Matter

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is so aligned with Pearl Jam's earlier catalog,

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a lot more than Gigaton, which came out in 2020.

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This album as a whole is easily in my top 10

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for 2024. But when I listen to it from a song

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by song basis, it doesn't get any stronger than

00:16:03.070 --> 00:16:05.509
records for me. Yeah, it's a beautiful track.

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And Eddie Vedder, as he gets older, has this

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sort of inherent sadness in his voice now, which

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just lends itself to the track, lends itself

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to the album as well. And I've always been a

00:16:15.350 --> 00:16:17.129
huge fan of Eddie Vedder. Everything from his

00:16:17.129 --> 00:16:20.750
incredible vocals and lyrics to climbing up.

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30 -foot scaffoldings and jumping off and just

00:16:22.950 --> 00:16:25.289
being an absolute wild man. But as he's growing

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older and settling down, his lyrics have reached

00:16:27.629 --> 00:16:29.429
a whole different level of introspectiveness.

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And like I said, his voice has just got this

00:16:31.409 --> 00:16:34.769
natural sadness to it now, which just tugs at

00:16:34.769 --> 00:16:36.509
your heartstrings, just adds this whole other

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level to what he's saying in his songs. Wonderful

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track. I love the pick. Awesome choice. All right.

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We've got two pop songs followed by two rock

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songs. Where do we go from here for track five?

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We're going to go back to pop and we're going

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to keep it a little bit sad. Which is weird because

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the artist I'm picking next is Sabrina Carpenter

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and everybody's in love with her and everybody's

00:17:00.860 --> 00:17:02.960
over the moon with her. Another massive breakout

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artist in 2024. Everybody's been all about Espresso

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and all the other hit singles off of her short

00:17:09.880 --> 00:17:12.680
and sweet album. But I think that Lie to Girls

00:17:12.680 --> 00:17:15.420
is quietly the best song on the album and one

00:17:15.420 --> 00:17:18.140
of my favorite releases of 2024. Honestly, the

00:17:18.140 --> 00:17:20.910
song is introspective. It's... It's melancholy.

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Much of the song just uses like distortion and

00:17:23.509 --> 00:17:26.970
ambient studio sounds and plucking guitars and

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all kinds of like feedback and synths to just

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help paint this tapestry of a song that's about

00:17:33.490 --> 00:17:35.970
heartache. And it's about a relationship that's

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like dysfunctional at best and probably abusive

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at worst. And she does it in such a way that

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it's still poppy and it's still like a bop to

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listen to. But you're listening to lyrics and

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it's like... Sabrina, you all right? You've been

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through some stuff. It's a really bare bones,

00:17:51.599 --> 00:17:54.119
honest song, which she threw in there with the

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likes of Espresso and all these songs about just

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being a girl out in the world and having fun

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and playing all these boys for fools and whatnot.

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And then she turns around and the song is about

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how you don't have to lie to girls because if

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they like you, they'll just lie to themselves

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and they'll just bury themselves in pretending

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it's a good relationship, despite the fact that

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it's one that might potentially be full of regret

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and Fear and sadness and maybe even a little

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bit of violence. I don't know. But it is a wonderful,

00:18:22.470 --> 00:18:25.490
shocking, beautiful song. And it had to go on

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the list. Not only because Sabrina Carper is

00:18:27.289 --> 00:18:28.970
just one of those huge breakout stars of 2024,

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but because this album has been such a massive

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hit. And I think everybody is overlooking this

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track, which I think is the best one on that

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album. Well, having two kids that were obsessed.

00:18:40.200 --> 00:18:43.279
with Girl Meets World during its 2014 to 2017

00:18:43.279 --> 00:18:46.740
run. I've been familiar with Sabrina's music

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for years, and it certainly matured over the

00:18:50.960 --> 00:18:53.180
time, because in the beginning, it was very bubblegummy

00:18:53.180 --> 00:18:55.720
when she was putting out songs that came out

00:18:55.720 --> 00:18:59.160
during that Girl Meets World run. But the music

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has matured over the time, and let's be honest.

00:19:02.089 --> 00:19:05.029
Jack Antonoff, which wrote and produced a song

00:19:05.029 --> 00:19:08.210
with Sabrina Carpenter and Amy Allen, has his

00:19:08.210 --> 00:19:12.009
finger on the pulse of what's going to hit stratospheric

00:19:12.009 --> 00:19:15.930
heights musically. And he's proven that time

00:19:15.930 --> 00:19:18.470
and time again with Taylor Swift. And I think

00:19:18.470 --> 00:19:21.250
he's doing so once again here with Sabrina Carpenter.

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And while this isn't a single as of this recording

00:19:24.970 --> 00:19:28.359
that we're doing tonight. I'd honestly be surprised

00:19:28.359 --> 00:19:31.119
if it doesn't get released during this album

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cycle because it's certainly being performed

00:19:34.140 --> 00:19:37.059
in her live shows. So it's already getting a

00:19:37.059 --> 00:19:39.960
ton of exposure. And I think because of that,

00:19:40.039 --> 00:19:42.559
they might be earmarking it for like an early

00:19:42.559 --> 00:19:45.940
25 release. So you might be ahead of the curve

00:19:45.940 --> 00:19:48.980
with this one, picking it for a 2024 playlist

00:19:48.980 --> 00:19:52.579
where next year you might be like, damn it. Now

00:19:52.579 --> 00:19:54.680
I can't use that because it was one of the biggest

00:19:54.680 --> 00:19:58.150
bops of 25. Don't I always have my finger on

00:19:58.150 --> 00:19:59.509
the pulse? Aren't I always ahead of the curve?

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I liked JPEG Mafia before he was cool. Come on.

00:20:02.849 --> 00:20:06.089
There you go. Well, what I'm going to do is follow

00:20:06.089 --> 00:20:09.609
up this song with an artist that I have my finger

00:20:09.609 --> 00:20:13.109
on the pulse of. And it's somebody that I think

00:20:13.109 --> 00:20:16.849
is starting to explode. Hasn't gotten to the

00:20:16.849 --> 00:20:20.589
Sabrina Carpenter, Chapel Roan level yet. But

00:20:20.589 --> 00:20:23.089
she's also coming from the rock perspective.

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And I think it's harder to get to that level.

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When you're coming from the rock world, because

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for every pop artist like a Shania Twain or a

00:20:33.220 --> 00:20:37.500
Madonna in the 90s, Alanis Morissette took a

00:20:37.500 --> 00:20:39.740
lot to cut through the cracks in the beginning.

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And then it exploded and you got the Veruca Saltz

00:20:42.720 --> 00:20:45.700
and other rock artists, female rock artists of

00:20:45.700 --> 00:20:50.440
the 90s. In 2020, J .J. Wilde released an album.

00:20:51.259 --> 00:20:54.019
Ruthless that won Rock Album of the Year at the

00:20:54.019 --> 00:20:57.680
2021 Juno Awards. And the reason I brought up

00:20:57.680 --> 00:21:00.819
Alanis Morissette before was J .J. Wilde was

00:21:00.819 --> 00:21:04.039
the first woman to win that award going back

00:21:04.039 --> 00:21:09.740
to Alanis' 1996 win. Wow. So needless to say,

00:21:09.759 --> 00:21:12.319
the expectations were high for this year's album

00:21:12.319 --> 00:21:16.640
of hers, Vices. And I think she did a similar

00:21:16.640 --> 00:21:20.589
to the rollouts we talked about with Jack White

00:21:20.589 --> 00:21:23.329
and Pearl Jam, a unique way to release the album.

00:21:23.410 --> 00:21:26.490
She first started with a single, then did an

00:21:26.490 --> 00:21:29.849
EP in the summer, which was four or five of the

00:21:29.849 --> 00:21:32.589
tracks, and then released the full album in the

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fall. The song I'm going to go with is the lead

00:21:35.750 --> 00:21:40.890
single, Arizona. It is swampy and breezy, and

00:21:40.890 --> 00:21:45.589
her vocals soar over this chorus musically. I

00:21:45.589 --> 00:21:48.609
think it fits with the Jack Antonoff style production

00:21:48.609 --> 00:21:52.309
of lie to girls, but it definitely adds a little

00:21:52.309 --> 00:21:54.809
bit more of the rock vibe. Her voice definitely

00:21:54.809 --> 00:21:58.250
is a little bit more rock esque in comparison

00:21:58.250 --> 00:22:02.329
to Sabrina Carpenter. But even though it might

00:22:02.329 --> 00:22:05.970
be a deep cut here in the U S I really feel like

00:22:05.970 --> 00:22:09.750
she's on the brink of breaking in 2025. And I

00:22:09.750 --> 00:22:12.680
hope that next year. When people are talking

00:22:12.680 --> 00:22:16.380
about vices all year long, hopefully we can point

00:22:16.380 --> 00:22:20.140
back and be like, we were talking about her for

00:22:20.140 --> 00:22:23.119
2024. Like, come on, get with, get with it here.

00:22:23.400 --> 00:22:26.819
Cause I love this song and it's been on my playlist

00:22:26.819 --> 00:22:29.839
all year long. It's just such a vibe, such a

00:22:29.839 --> 00:22:32.500
vibe. It's a hundred percent of vibe. I think

00:22:32.500 --> 00:22:34.440
she's getting an incredible voice. JJ wild. I

00:22:34.440 --> 00:22:36.599
think you're completely right about being a breakout

00:22:36.599 --> 00:22:39.400
star and she's going to be in 2025. She's going

00:22:39.400 --> 00:22:41.220
to be huge. So everybody get ready for it. But

00:22:41.220 --> 00:22:44.180
that song, Arizona, it's just got such a wonderful

00:22:44.180 --> 00:22:46.680
texture to it. I grew up in Arizona. I'm born

00:22:46.680 --> 00:22:49.039
and raised in Phoenix. And the story she tells

00:22:49.039 --> 00:22:50.839
of going out to the Southwest and just trying

00:22:50.839 --> 00:22:53.799
to lose yourself and just basically escape things.

00:22:54.500 --> 00:22:57.160
She captures that vibe of the Southwest perfectly

00:22:57.160 --> 00:22:59.740
about those long stretches of highway and the

00:22:59.740 --> 00:23:01.200
wilderness that most people don't know about

00:23:01.200 --> 00:23:05.180
in Arizona. Only 30 % of the state is actually

00:23:05.180 --> 00:23:07.349
desert. The rest is all like... conifer forest

00:23:07.349 --> 00:23:09.369
and it snows and it's beautiful and it's wonderful.

00:23:09.930 --> 00:23:12.730
And Arizona is a place where you can go and lose

00:23:12.730 --> 00:23:14.690
yourself and rediscover yourself at the same

00:23:14.690 --> 00:23:18.049
time. And I think when you listen to this song

00:23:18.049 --> 00:23:20.710
with your eyes closed, it makes me feel like

00:23:20.710 --> 00:23:23.349
I'm back home, honestly. She's just got this

00:23:23.349 --> 00:23:25.390
incredible way of telling a story with her music

00:23:25.390 --> 00:23:27.910
and her vocals and she's a dynamo. She's going

00:23:27.910 --> 00:23:29.849
to be huge. I love the pick. Awesome, awesome

00:23:29.849 --> 00:23:32.349
pick. Well, what are we going to follow that

00:23:32.349 --> 00:23:36.759
up with for track seven? So here's a band that's

00:23:36.759 --> 00:23:39.660
been around for 30 years now that should be famous,

00:23:39.680 --> 00:23:42.140
like J .J. Wilde is about to be. And they're

00:23:42.140 --> 00:23:44.000
famous in their own right, but I've always felt

00:23:44.000 --> 00:23:45.039
like they should have been one of the biggest

00:23:45.039 --> 00:23:47.079
bands in the world, and they just inexplicably

00:23:47.079 --> 00:23:50.039
haven't been. It's Hot Water Music. Yes! And

00:23:50.039 --> 00:23:53.039
I love Hot Water Music so much. I was first introduced

00:23:53.039 --> 00:23:55.259
to them as a kid going out to local shows where

00:23:55.259 --> 00:23:58.140
all the musicians I knew had Hot Water Music

00:23:58.140 --> 00:24:01.559
tattoos. They say that Sparks is your favorite

00:24:01.559 --> 00:24:03.940
musician's favorite musician. That's what Hot

00:24:03.940 --> 00:24:06.240
Water Music was to me. All my favorite musicians'

00:24:06.519 --> 00:24:08.900
favorite band was Hot Water Music. And like I

00:24:08.900 --> 00:24:10.460
said, they've been around for 30 years now. This

00:24:10.460 --> 00:24:12.660
is their 30th anniversary. And they just put

00:24:12.660 --> 00:24:16.319
out their 10th studio album, Vows. And the track

00:24:16.319 --> 00:24:17.759
that I'm going to pick and throw on this list

00:24:17.759 --> 00:24:19.640
is called Burn Forever. I think it's a standout

00:24:19.640 --> 00:24:21.660
track on the album. It's an evolution of their

00:24:21.660 --> 00:24:24.740
music, but also has the same sort of like leitmotifs

00:24:24.740 --> 00:24:27.339
that aren't predictable as far as Hot Water Music,

00:24:27.480 --> 00:24:30.759
but are familiar of their discography. It's a

00:24:30.759 --> 00:24:32.529
great track. One thing that's different about

00:24:32.529 --> 00:24:34.250
Hot Water Music with his album is just the fact

00:24:34.250 --> 00:24:36.849
that Chuck Reagan's gravely voice, you can tell

00:24:36.849 --> 00:24:38.710
he's getting older and he's probably like blowing

00:24:38.710 --> 00:24:40.970
out his vocal cords a little bit. So he's been

00:24:40.970 --> 00:24:43.210
strained and it gets more strained as the years

00:24:43.210 --> 00:24:46.309
go by. So he and Chris Waller have been splitting

00:24:46.309 --> 00:24:48.450
the vocals and Waller takes the lead on this.

00:24:48.589 --> 00:24:50.869
And I don't think the music like suffers anything

00:24:50.869 --> 00:24:53.670
or loses anything with that splitting of the

00:24:53.670 --> 00:24:55.529
lead vocals. I think Chris Waller is a fantastic

00:24:55.529 --> 00:24:58.250
guitar player and a singer. And I think he just

00:24:58.250 --> 00:25:00.900
knocks it out of the park. The band describes

00:25:00.900 --> 00:25:04.779
this song as being dark, but positive and being

00:25:04.779 --> 00:25:06.599
introspective and understanding why you're feeling

00:25:06.599 --> 00:25:09.359
what it is you're feeling and staying motivated,

00:25:09.640 --> 00:25:12.099
working towards that goal, getting through all

00:25:12.099 --> 00:25:14.339
the BS that you're dealing with and just trying

00:25:14.339 --> 00:25:15.640
to reach that light at the end of the tunnel,

00:25:15.720 --> 00:25:17.859
which is largely what their music has always

00:25:17.859 --> 00:25:19.779
been about for the last 30 years. They've always

00:25:19.779 --> 00:25:21.819
been incredibly inspirational to me. They still

00:25:21.819 --> 00:25:24.819
are. I think Burn Forever is just a wonderful

00:25:24.819 --> 00:25:27.519
track on a wonderful 10th album on the 30th anniversary

00:25:27.519 --> 00:25:29.660
of this incredible band that more people need

00:25:29.660 --> 00:25:32.000
to know about and have as one of their favorite

00:25:32.000 --> 00:25:35.900
bands. Easily scooped me on the band and the

00:25:35.900 --> 00:25:38.660
album. There had to be something. So this actually

00:25:38.660 --> 00:25:42.079
makes my life easier. I mean, this album had

00:25:42.079 --> 00:25:45.039
guest spots from City in Color, The Interrupters,

00:25:45.079 --> 00:25:47.740
Thrice, Calling Hours. I'm going to say this,

00:25:47.740 --> 00:25:50.740
though. I personally think Chuck Reagan's vocals

00:25:50.740 --> 00:25:53.799
are just as perfect as they were on Caution 22

00:25:53.799 --> 00:25:57.140
years ago because the gravelly nature of it just

00:25:57.140 --> 00:26:00.380
sits with the introspective part of the music.

00:26:00.460 --> 00:26:03.519
And it gives you that. I don't want to compare

00:26:03.519 --> 00:26:05.400
it to country music because that's wrong, even

00:26:05.400 --> 00:26:08.339
though Chuck does dabble in some country -esque

00:26:08.339 --> 00:26:12.269
stuff. Like, the end of the line for Johnny Cash,

00:26:12.470 --> 00:26:15.509
where his voice was just, like, it just sits

00:26:15.509 --> 00:26:19.009
in the music so well. Or even Tom Waits, even.

00:26:19.109 --> 00:26:21.769
Yeah, I mean, Hot Water Music are one of those

00:26:21.769 --> 00:26:25.250
bands where album after album, I scratch my head

00:26:25.250 --> 00:26:27.289
in disbelief as to why they're not one of the

00:26:27.289 --> 00:26:30.549
biggest punk bands on the planet. In the last

00:26:30.549 --> 00:26:33.430
12 years, they've released four albums that I

00:26:33.430 --> 00:26:37.869
friggin' love. 2020 -12's Exister, 2017's Light

00:26:37.869 --> 00:26:42.779
It Up. 2022's Feel the Void, and now 2024's Vows,

00:26:42.880 --> 00:26:47.339
I'd be hard -pressed to find one song that I

00:26:47.339 --> 00:26:49.680
don't thoroughly love on any of these albums.

00:26:49.799 --> 00:26:52.920
However, I had three songs sitting in my bank.

00:26:53.099 --> 00:26:55.799
And just to show where we differ a little bit,

00:26:55.960 --> 00:27:00.619
I had After the Impossible, Remnants, and Much

00:27:00.619 --> 00:27:02.839
Love because of the Interrupters collaboration.

00:27:03.140 --> 00:27:06.140
I couldn't not include that. But you could pick

00:27:06.140 --> 00:27:09.900
any song off this album. And I'm all in. So Burn

00:27:09.900 --> 00:27:13.240
Forever is an absolute soaring monster. And I

00:27:13.240 --> 00:27:16.339
love where you went with it. Thanks, man. Oh,

00:27:16.519 --> 00:27:21.079
all right. I'm going to go somewhere next. I'm

00:27:21.079 --> 00:27:28.000
going to go with you. And God, again, with these

00:27:28.000 --> 00:27:32.180
releases that are shocking people and doing something

00:27:32.180 --> 00:27:35.299
a little different and kind of out of the blue.

00:27:35.930 --> 00:27:40.450
September 5th, 2004, this band did a just out

00:27:40.450 --> 00:27:43.549
of nowhere live stream after a strange countdown

00:27:43.549 --> 00:27:48.450
clock on social media led to nothing but the

00:27:48.450 --> 00:27:52.069
clock hitting zero and then starting to count

00:27:52.069 --> 00:27:58.789
back up again from zero. We're going to go with

00:27:58.789 --> 00:28:02.150
Linkin Park and I'm going to go with. The first

00:28:02.150 --> 00:28:04.769
song that they debuted with Emily Armstrong on

00:28:04.769 --> 00:28:08.750
vocals. And that is Emily Armstrong of the amazing

00:28:08.750 --> 00:28:11.670
Dead Sarah, who you and I have talked about on

00:28:11.670 --> 00:28:15.170
this show and on Playlist Wars. And I think the

00:28:15.170 --> 00:28:17.569
emptiness machine was the perfect way to introduce

00:28:17.569 --> 00:28:20.849
her. I agree. When I think of Linkin Park's last

00:28:20.849 --> 00:28:23.789
studio album prior to this, One More Light, there

00:28:23.789 --> 00:28:27.000
was definitely. more of a pop influence. And

00:28:27.000 --> 00:28:30.440
while that is still a part of the sound on from

00:28:30.440 --> 00:28:33.700
zero, I think Emily has brought back some heft

00:28:33.700 --> 00:28:36.359
to the band sound that maybe hearkens back to

00:28:36.359 --> 00:28:40.619
the hybrid theory, meteora era. And for me personally,

00:28:40.779 --> 00:28:46.099
I'm all in. However, I completely respect that.

00:28:46.160 --> 00:28:47.940
There are going to be some fans of dead Sarah

00:28:47.940 --> 00:28:50.240
that might be concerned about this because of

00:28:50.240 --> 00:28:53.779
their band status, but in Lincoln park synergy,

00:28:54.799 --> 00:28:58.220
I think back to when Chester was balancing his

00:28:58.220 --> 00:29:01.180
role in Lincoln Park as well as Stone Temple

00:29:01.180 --> 00:29:05.000
Pilots. So personally, as a fan of Dead Sarah

00:29:05.000 --> 00:29:08.700
and Lincoln Park, I'm going into this era of

00:29:08.700 --> 00:29:12.259
the band with some optimism of great music from

00:29:12.259 --> 00:29:16.559
hopefully both bands. I don't expect her to replace

00:29:16.559 --> 00:29:20.349
Chester. She never will replace Chester. I think

00:29:20.349 --> 00:29:23.009
bringing a female element to this band is an

00:29:23.009 --> 00:29:25.769
interesting approach. So I'm going to be curious

00:29:25.769 --> 00:29:30.089
to see how it unfolds, both in terms of the album's

00:29:30.089 --> 00:29:34.049
chart impact as we move into 2025, as well as

00:29:34.049 --> 00:29:36.410
their ability to continue to sell out concerts

00:29:36.410 --> 00:29:39.309
with this lineup. So far, they're selling out

00:29:39.309 --> 00:29:41.970
in minutes all over the world. So they're doing

00:29:41.970 --> 00:29:44.690
something right. And given what I've seen done

00:29:44.690 --> 00:29:48.029
in Alice in Chains with William Duvall in the

00:29:48.519 --> 00:29:52.799
impossible position of being the quote unquote

00:29:52.799 --> 00:29:58.400
new lane staley i don't envy emily at all right

00:29:58.400 --> 00:30:02.539
now and i'm sure she's got to get past that whole

00:30:02.539 --> 00:30:05.960
it's the new chester role but i mean when an

00:30:05.960 --> 00:30:11.079
artist dies like an allison chains like bon scott

00:30:11.079 --> 00:30:14.019
and acdc and then you have brian johnson coming

00:30:14.019 --> 00:30:16.299
in and replay you need a voice that's strong

00:30:16.299 --> 00:30:20.950
but also fits and i think emily does that with

00:30:20.950 --> 00:30:23.289
lincoln park and i really feel like the emptiness

00:30:23.289 --> 00:30:27.490
machine was a great way to introduce her and

00:30:27.490 --> 00:30:29.630
show love and respect to the band sound over

00:30:29.630 --> 00:30:33.410
the years so i hope that this lineup works because

00:30:33.410 --> 00:30:37.890
i love lincoln park i love dead sarah and i'm

00:30:37.890 --> 00:30:41.269
hoping that more people now go who is this oh

00:30:41.269 --> 00:30:43.930
she's been in a band and dead sarah's music gets

00:30:43.930 --> 00:30:46.869
more attention from this massive massive spotlight

00:30:46.869 --> 00:30:50.609
on her Yeah, I'm a huge fan of Dead, Sarah. I

00:30:50.609 --> 00:30:53.789
have been for a number of years. And yeah, I'm

00:30:53.789 --> 00:30:56.410
really happy for Emily. And I completely agree

00:30:56.410 --> 00:30:59.009
with you that there's no replacing Chester Bennington.

00:30:59.069 --> 00:31:01.069
He was such a unique person and such a unique

00:31:01.069 --> 00:31:03.950
voice in the genre of, I guess you can call it

00:31:03.950 --> 00:31:05.609
alternative. I don't want to call it rap rock.

00:31:05.609 --> 00:31:08.130
I feel like that's reductive of what they did

00:31:08.130 --> 00:31:12.609
as a band. But if you're going to try and, in

00:31:12.609 --> 00:31:15.609
simplest terms, replace Chester Bennington, I

00:31:15.609 --> 00:31:17.650
can't think of a better person who is a fit for

00:31:17.650 --> 00:31:19.710
their style of music than Emily Armstrong. That

00:31:19.710 --> 00:31:23.450
woman's just got a voice and lungs on her. And

00:31:23.450 --> 00:31:25.029
when I first heard the track, I was skeptical

00:31:25.029 --> 00:31:27.470
like everybody else. But knowing Emily Armstrong's

00:31:27.470 --> 00:31:29.450
style of vocals and knowing Dead Sarah as well

00:31:29.450 --> 00:31:30.869
as I do, it was like, okay, this is actually

00:31:30.869 --> 00:31:32.210
going to be probably something really special.

00:31:32.869 --> 00:31:35.430
And sure enough, like you said, it pays homage

00:31:35.430 --> 00:31:36.970
and it pays respect. And it's not like they're

00:31:36.970 --> 00:31:39.089
trying to replace Chester Bennington. And I think

00:31:39.089 --> 00:31:42.170
there's just enough of Emily Armstrong's own

00:31:42.170 --> 00:31:45.369
flair and style in there where... It's a familiar

00:31:45.369 --> 00:31:48.650
continuation of what happened and the aftermath

00:31:48.650 --> 00:31:50.950
of the tragedy of what happened with Chester

00:31:50.950 --> 00:31:53.710
Bennington. But it also feels different and fresh

00:31:53.710 --> 00:31:55.829
in a way that I wasn't expecting to, which I

00:31:55.829 --> 00:31:58.609
actually really like. This is a track that I

00:31:58.609 --> 00:32:00.430
had my time and place with Linkin Park way back

00:32:00.430 --> 00:32:02.210
in the day, and I actually haven't really touched

00:32:02.210 --> 00:32:04.609
them since Chester Bennington died. So coming

00:32:04.609 --> 00:32:07.130
back to this, it felt familiar, but also new

00:32:07.130 --> 00:32:08.630
and exciting at the same time. I've actually

00:32:08.630 --> 00:32:11.470
had this track in my rotation now, and I actually

00:32:11.470 --> 00:32:14.609
really love it. I think Emily Armstrong was an

00:32:14.609 --> 00:32:16.750
inspired choice. I think the way she plays off

00:32:16.750 --> 00:32:19.329
of Mike Shinoda's vocals is very reminiscent

00:32:19.329 --> 00:32:22.329
without being disrespectful of the dynamic that

00:32:22.329 --> 00:32:25.430
Shinoda and Bennington had together. I think

00:32:25.430 --> 00:32:27.150
it was a brilliant choice. I am excited to see

00:32:27.150 --> 00:32:29.569
what the band does going forward. And I think

00:32:29.569 --> 00:32:32.710
this has to be on the best of 2024 songs just

00:32:32.710 --> 00:32:36.329
because of the impact it had and how meaningful

00:32:36.329 --> 00:32:38.230
it is to everybody involved. So I love the pick.

00:32:38.309 --> 00:32:41.519
I love the song. Awesome choice. All right. We

00:32:41.519 --> 00:32:44.940
each have one song left for side A, track nine.

00:32:45.059 --> 00:32:48.579
Where do we go from Linkin Park? I'm just going

00:32:48.579 --> 00:32:50.140
to go total left field. I'm just going to go

00:32:50.140 --> 00:32:52.220
weird. I'm sorry. I'm going to go fully weird.

00:32:52.500 --> 00:32:55.440
I already mentioned the man once before. I mean,

00:32:55.599 --> 00:32:57.319
dude, he put some stuff out this year that was

00:32:57.319 --> 00:32:59.240
actually really fun. I thought about it, but

00:32:59.240 --> 00:33:02.099
I mentioned JPEG Mafia once before already this

00:33:02.099 --> 00:33:05.150
episode. He put out another album called I Lay

00:33:05.150 --> 00:33:07.390
Down My Life. And every time that man releases

00:33:07.390 --> 00:33:09.450
an album, I stop what I'm doing. I put it down

00:33:09.450 --> 00:33:11.490
and I put my headphones on and I just go to the

00:33:11.490 --> 00:33:14.150
places he wants to take me because he is still

00:33:14.150 --> 00:33:16.750
continues to be one of the most interesting and

00:33:16.750 --> 00:33:19.589
exciting producers and rappers in hip hop today.

00:33:19.970 --> 00:33:22.089
And this album is no different from the rest

00:33:22.089 --> 00:33:24.910
of his discography. It's just incredible. The

00:33:24.910 --> 00:33:28.710
track I'm picking is Don't Rely on Other Men.

00:33:29.519 --> 00:33:32.599
And it's an awesome track because he's just got

00:33:32.599 --> 00:33:34.720
this way of sampling weird and bizarre stuff.

00:33:34.819 --> 00:33:37.339
He'll do like Japanese Famicom commercials from

00:33:37.339 --> 00:33:39.119
the 80s and turn it into like this incredible

00:33:39.119 --> 00:33:43.700
song. And the motif of this track is a line spoken

00:33:43.700 --> 00:33:47.000
by Logan Roy in succession as played by the legendary

00:33:47.000 --> 00:33:50.579
Brian Cox. And it's just him repeating this line

00:33:50.579 --> 00:33:52.519
over and over again. And that becomes the impetus

00:33:52.519 --> 00:33:54.200
for this song that just takes you to all these

00:33:54.200 --> 00:33:56.740
wild places. And it kicks in about two thirds

00:33:56.740 --> 00:33:58.799
of the way with some incredible guitar riffs

00:33:58.799 --> 00:34:01.640
from Alex Goldblatt. And it just makes the track.

00:34:01.779 --> 00:34:04.259
Like every time Peggy releases something new,

00:34:04.359 --> 00:34:07.619
it's wild and crazy and weird and exciting. And

00:34:07.619 --> 00:34:09.280
I want to share it with everybody who will listen

00:34:09.280 --> 00:34:11.960
to me and take the chance on listening to this

00:34:11.960 --> 00:34:14.239
weird experimental hip hop. Because Peggy, like

00:34:14.239 --> 00:34:16.719
every time he releases something, it's like the

00:34:16.719 --> 00:34:18.840
best stuff of that year. It's crazy. Like the

00:34:18.840 --> 00:34:21.800
man is just unstoppable. Oh, yeah. This album

00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:25.969
as a whole. reached number 102 on the U .S. Billboard

00:34:25.969 --> 00:34:29.809
Hot 100. For an independent artist? For an experimental

00:34:29.809 --> 00:34:32.889
artist, yeah. Yeah, and it reached number 15

00:34:32.889 --> 00:34:36.849
on the U .S. independent album charts. Is this

00:34:36.849 --> 00:34:39.849
track hip -hop? Is it rap rock? Is it new metal?

00:34:40.050 --> 00:34:42.909
Is it experimental? There's so many elements

00:34:42.909 --> 00:34:46.429
that you could argue for this song. Last year...

00:34:46.679 --> 00:34:48.420
I'm going to do a little spoiler here. You had

00:34:48.420 --> 00:34:51.360
Perfect, which featured Danny Brown on your list.

00:34:51.440 --> 00:34:56.900
And that had this 70s meets modern hip hop backdrop.

00:34:57.179 --> 00:35:00.679
And now you've got Don't Rely on Other Men that,

00:35:00.739 --> 00:35:03.119
like you said, includes that line from Succession

00:35:03.119 --> 00:35:07.840
along with a door slamming that he loops as the

00:35:07.840 --> 00:35:12.980
bass beat in this song. It's wildly unique. And

00:35:12.980 --> 00:35:16.489
maybe I'm old, but as far as I'm concerned. In

00:35:16.489 --> 00:35:20.110
my mid forties, it's way ahead of its time because

00:35:20.110 --> 00:35:22.909
I don't hear a ton of music that fits into this

00:35:22.909 --> 00:35:26.130
box, but I feel like if there was more of it,

00:35:26.210 --> 00:35:30.639
this would become. what mainstream hip hop is.

00:35:31.000 --> 00:35:34.199
When I compare it to some of the mumble rap out

00:35:34.199 --> 00:35:37.400
there that I'm not the biggest fan of, this to

00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:41.019
me has such artistic integrity and such authority

00:35:41.019 --> 00:35:44.920
to the delivery in it that I would love to see

00:35:44.920 --> 00:35:48.579
more artists going down this road. Yeah. Authority

00:35:48.579 --> 00:35:50.860
is a really good way of putting it. He just does

00:35:50.860 --> 00:35:53.300
whatever the heck he wants to do, and he does

00:35:53.300 --> 00:35:55.920
it with such panache and confidence that he just

00:35:55.920 --> 00:35:58.550
takes you along for the ride. Most of the stuff

00:35:58.550 --> 00:36:01.570
he does on paper should not work, but he is such

00:36:01.570 --> 00:36:05.030
a creative and confident producer that it's just

00:36:05.030 --> 00:36:09.349
fire every single time. All right. To close out

00:36:09.349 --> 00:36:11.829
Side A, I'm going to go with my favorite musical

00:36:11.829 --> 00:36:17.650
story of 2024. The song, because of this story,

00:36:17.769 --> 00:36:19.969
has become one of my favorites and one of my

00:36:19.969 --> 00:36:24.090
family's favorites. This summer, before I went

00:36:24.090 --> 00:36:27.500
through a medical emergency, I got to take my

00:36:27.500 --> 00:36:32.480
family to see Some 41, The Interrupters, and

00:36:32.480 --> 00:36:36.079
opening act Joey Valance and Bray. And Joey Valance

00:36:36.079 --> 00:36:38.219
and Bray is what I'm going to close the side

00:36:38.219 --> 00:36:42.239
with. These guys are a 90s hip -hop throwback

00:36:42.239 --> 00:36:45.179
incorporating elements of the Beastie Boys, Cypress

00:36:45.179 --> 00:36:47.940
Hill, House of Pain, and so many other artists

00:36:47.940 --> 00:36:50.440
of that boom -bap nature. But there's a punk

00:36:50.440 --> 00:36:54.679
spirit along with the delivery. But the reason...

00:36:55.159 --> 00:36:57.800
I'm choosing this group is because of this following

00:36:57.800 --> 00:37:01.380
story. My daughter, my wife, my oldest daughter,

00:37:01.460 --> 00:37:03.699
my wife said, we're going to go grab some French

00:37:03.699 --> 00:37:06.239
fries and a drink because we're there in ponchos

00:37:06.239 --> 00:37:09.460
because it's about 45 degrees and it's drizzling

00:37:09.460 --> 00:37:11.940
just enough where it's kind of uncomfortable

00:37:11.940 --> 00:37:15.650
for the kids. Like I told them wear hats in and

00:37:15.650 --> 00:37:17.550
I gave everybody beanies and they all looked

00:37:17.550 --> 00:37:20.269
at me like I was, oh, come on, dad. But as soon

00:37:20.269 --> 00:37:22.750
as we got in, they were like, crap, we're cold.

00:37:22.869 --> 00:37:25.510
Could we buy hoodies? So that backfired on me

00:37:25.510 --> 00:37:28.750
immediately. But anyway, we're up there watching

00:37:28.750 --> 00:37:30.869
the show and my daughter goes, I'm going to go

00:37:30.869 --> 00:37:33.670
grab something. I'll be right back. And her and

00:37:33.670 --> 00:37:36.630
my wife leave. And for some reason, at the point

00:37:36.630 --> 00:37:39.010
when they left, the entire rest of the crowd

00:37:39.010 --> 00:37:42.090
just happened to show up. So my daughter's calling

00:37:42.090 --> 00:37:45.300
me. Saying, do me a favor. Put your hand up in

00:37:45.300 --> 00:37:49.340
the air so I could find you. So I raise my hand

00:37:49.340 --> 00:37:52.579
in the air. And Joey Valance and Bray start the

00:37:52.579 --> 00:37:56.920
song, The Baddest. Hands up. Hands up. Hands

00:37:56.920 --> 00:38:01.679
up. Hands up. Okay. Let's go. I'm the baddest

00:38:01.679 --> 00:38:04.260
bitch in this club. So as she's saying to raise

00:38:04.260 --> 00:38:07.440
my hand. 2 ,000 people have their hands up in

00:38:07.440 --> 00:38:09.920
the air. Oh, it's comedic timing at its finest.

00:38:10.019 --> 00:38:13.179
It was just glorious. So she starts texting me

00:38:13.179 --> 00:38:15.659
at that point because the song's playing. She's

00:38:15.659 --> 00:38:17.079
like, put your hands down so I can find you.

00:38:17.619 --> 00:38:20.559
So they're rapping the verse and she's like,

00:38:20.619 --> 00:38:23.119
okay, put your hands up in the air again so I

00:38:23.119 --> 00:38:26.340
can find you. And sure as shit, I put my hands

00:38:26.340 --> 00:38:28.699
up in the air. It gets right back to the chorus.

00:38:28.960 --> 00:38:32.300
So this happens. And by the time they get to

00:38:32.300 --> 00:38:34.300
us, it's towards the end of the song. Now this

00:38:34.300 --> 00:38:37.010
whole time, I've got them a little nervous because

00:38:37.010 --> 00:38:38.269
they're trying to make their way through the

00:38:38.269 --> 00:38:40.530
crowd. It's an outdoor show and I've got my 11

00:38:40.530 --> 00:38:42.869
-year -old next to me, but I've got my arm around

00:38:42.869 --> 00:38:46.110
her, but I'm not looking at her. And they get

00:38:46.110 --> 00:38:50.750
there and it's the last chorus. Hands up. Hands

00:38:50.750 --> 00:38:53.210
up. So I look down at my 11 -year -old. Hands

00:38:53.210 --> 00:38:57.570
up. Hands up. Okay, let's go. I'm the baddest

00:38:57.570 --> 00:39:02.369
bitch in this club. And I'm like, what? So to

00:39:02.369 --> 00:39:05.739
close outside, eh? Every time this song comes

00:39:05.739 --> 00:39:08.179
on, she goes, mom, am I allowed to sing it this

00:39:08.179 --> 00:39:13.119
time? I got to go with the baddest from Joey

00:39:13.119 --> 00:39:15.619
Valance and Bray, my favorite concert moment

00:39:15.619 --> 00:39:17.679
of the year. It's a memory I'm going to live

00:39:17.679 --> 00:39:19.900
with for decades. I'm always going to remember

00:39:19.900 --> 00:39:22.900
my youngest at 11 years old yelling, I'm the

00:39:22.900 --> 00:39:26.019
baddest bitch in this club. That's so awesome.

00:39:26.139 --> 00:39:30.010
I love the pic. Yeah, they're such a fun group.

00:39:30.110 --> 00:39:33.050
And it's almost like self -aware parody at times.

00:39:33.190 --> 00:39:35.949
It's just so much fun. And they know how absurd

00:39:35.949 --> 00:39:37.610
and silly they are. But at the same time, it's

00:39:37.610 --> 00:39:39.429
like a loving throwback to, like you said, the

00:39:39.429 --> 00:39:42.389
days of 90s hip hop. It just works. It is such

00:39:42.389 --> 00:39:44.530
a great pick. It's such a great track. I would

00:39:44.530 --> 00:39:46.250
be fine if you wanted to end the entire playlist

00:39:46.250 --> 00:39:47.889
side B with this track, because it's just such

00:39:47.889 --> 00:39:50.650
a great stamp on what was this year of music.

00:39:51.010 --> 00:39:53.730
Just such a great pick. So much fun. That's a

00:39:53.730 --> 00:39:55.170
track I'll throw on when it's time to clean the

00:39:55.170 --> 00:39:57.710
house, because I just need to pick me up. just

00:39:57.710 --> 00:40:00.170
so much damn fun and like the video the video

00:40:00.170 --> 00:40:02.469
is hysterical too like it's just it's awesome

00:40:02.469 --> 00:40:05.230
all their videos have the throwback look to them

00:40:05.230 --> 00:40:07.409
I mean all the way back from punk tactics when

00:40:07.409 --> 00:40:10.210
they ended up on Ellen like they were viral because

00:40:10.210 --> 00:40:13.110
of their TikTok nature as well and I think we're

00:40:13.110 --> 00:40:15.550
going to talk about that more tonight but artists

00:40:15.550 --> 00:40:18.269
like Chapel Roan and Joey Valance and Bray are

00:40:18.269 --> 00:40:21.309
making names for themselves through TikTok and

00:40:21.309 --> 00:40:24.679
these guys are doing it in a throwback way That

00:40:24.679 --> 00:40:26.940
to the audience, they're actually going after,

00:40:27.079 --> 00:40:29.699
which is the interrupters crowd and some 41s

00:40:29.699 --> 00:40:32.860
crowd, which is a mixture of people our age and

00:40:32.860 --> 00:40:36.579
younger. It's new, even though it's a throwback

00:40:36.579 --> 00:40:40.900
to us. Yeah. So that mixtapers concludes side

00:40:40.900 --> 00:40:44.300
A of our ultimate 2024 mixtape, which consists

00:40:44.300 --> 00:40:47.400
of Chaperone's Good Luck, Babe. Teddy Swim's

00:40:47.400 --> 00:40:50.179
Goodbye's Been Good to You. Jack White's Bombing

00:40:50.179 --> 00:40:53.750
Out. Pearl Jam's Wreckage. Sabrina Carpenter's

00:40:53.750 --> 00:40:58.150
Lie to Girls, JJ Wilde's Arizona, Hot Water Music's

00:40:58.150 --> 00:41:00.969
Burn Forever, Linkin Park's The Emptiness Machine,

00:41:01.550 --> 00:41:04.690
JPEG Mafia featuring Freaky and Alex Goldblatt's

00:41:04.690 --> 00:41:07.349
Don't Rely on Other Men, and Joey Valance and

00:41:07.349 --> 00:41:10.889
Bray's The Baddest. Head over to myweeklymixtape

00:41:10.889 --> 00:41:13.230
.com to hear all the songs we've discussed in

00:41:13.230 --> 00:41:16.210
this mix through the playlist embedded on the

00:41:16.210 --> 00:41:20.829
episode page. And now I get to kick off. Side

00:41:20.829 --> 00:41:23.389
B, and I'm going to start with a song that musically

00:41:23.389 --> 00:41:27.469
is a summer pop punk jam. And it kind of was

00:41:27.469 --> 00:41:30.170
because the single was released in late August,

00:41:30.190 --> 00:41:34.269
but the full album dropped in early November.

00:41:34.849 --> 00:41:38.510
So my only criticism of this song is the fact

00:41:38.510 --> 00:41:41.469
that this group waited till late August because

00:41:41.469 --> 00:41:46.489
this song is, for lack of a better word, a breezy

00:41:46.489 --> 00:41:49.860
and poppy pop punk tune. that I think would have

00:41:49.860 --> 00:41:52.960
benefited being released in May or June to give

00:41:52.960 --> 00:41:55.519
the people the chance to rock this all summer

00:41:55.519 --> 00:41:58.159
long. And I'm going with state champs, silver

00:41:58.159 --> 00:42:03.420
clouds from their 2024 self -titled album. I

00:42:03.420 --> 00:42:08.019
can promise you this song will be on many 2025

00:42:08.019 --> 00:42:11.119
summer playlists without a shadow of a doubt.

00:42:11.480 --> 00:42:15.619
The lyrics are a little dark, but it's yin and

00:42:15.619 --> 00:42:20.130
yang against this pop. punk anthem that really

00:42:20.130 --> 00:42:24.210
harkens back to the early 2000s pop punk sound

00:42:24.210 --> 00:42:29.110
there was a resurgence of pop punk in 2024 and

00:42:29.110 --> 00:42:33.190
i feel like what is old is new again the cycle

00:42:33.190 --> 00:42:35.889
has been completed because state champs when

00:42:35.889 --> 00:42:37.489
i listened to this song this song could have

00:42:37.489 --> 00:42:40.130
been released in 2002 and it could have been

00:42:40.130 --> 00:42:43.510
a banger and it was released in 2024 and it is

00:42:43.510 --> 00:42:47.500
a banger so silver clouds I love the pick, man.

00:42:47.599 --> 00:42:49.860
This band takes me back to my Warped Tour days

00:42:49.860 --> 00:42:52.260
for sure. They're very much in line with bands

00:42:52.260 --> 00:42:54.940
like Sum 41 and bands I grew up listening to

00:42:54.940 --> 00:42:57.860
in Arizona, like 4Banger, were very nasally,

00:42:57.860 --> 00:43:00.920
high -pitched vocals and very sort of FU, middle

00:43:00.920 --> 00:43:03.159
fingers, despite the fact that they're all jumping

00:43:03.159 --> 00:43:05.139
around in unison and playing guitars and crap.

00:43:05.480 --> 00:43:08.599
I love the pick, man. I love pop punk. I always

00:43:08.599 --> 00:43:10.980
have. I love the resurgence that we're seeing

00:43:10.980 --> 00:43:13.940
of it in 2024. It just tickles me and warms my

00:43:13.940 --> 00:43:16.400
heart. They're a fun band, man. They kick ass,

00:43:16.420 --> 00:43:20.190
and I love the pick. And yeah, more pop punk

00:43:20.190 --> 00:43:23.070
coming back, please. We saw a resurgence of Blink

00:43:23.070 --> 00:43:25.670
-182 this year, too. It's coming back in a big

00:43:25.670 --> 00:43:27.630
way, in a whole new wave, and it excites me.

00:43:27.690 --> 00:43:29.409
I like it a lot because that's what I grew up

00:43:29.409 --> 00:43:31.929
with. I'm a kid of the 80s and 90s, but I spent

00:43:31.929 --> 00:43:34.909
the majority of my teen years in the 2000s. So

00:43:34.909 --> 00:43:38.550
this is home to me. So I love the pic. It's awesome.

00:43:38.989 --> 00:43:42.349
So then I guess my question is, are we staying

00:43:42.349 --> 00:43:46.420
in this pop punk realm for track two? Uh, so

00:43:46.420 --> 00:43:50.280
like, I've got to like kind of keep it kind of

00:43:50.280 --> 00:43:53.139
poppy, I guess, sort of maybe punky. Let's say

00:43:53.139 --> 00:43:55.860
punk at least. Because the pick that I have next

00:43:55.860 --> 00:43:58.380
is, it's a track called Say What, or Whatever

00:43:58.380 --> 00:44:00.500
You Say Man. And it's by a band called Spiritual

00:44:00.500 --> 00:44:03.539
Cramp based out of San Francisco. And it's featuring

00:44:03.539 --> 00:44:06.019
White Reaper, who you and I both love. We both

00:44:06.019 --> 00:44:08.500
love White Reaper. So these two bands, for whatever

00:44:08.500 --> 00:44:10.260
reason, they got together and they decided to

00:44:10.260 --> 00:44:13.519
do like a dual single release in 2024, where

00:44:13.519 --> 00:44:16.440
one song is Spiritual Cramp featuring White Reaper.

00:44:16.519 --> 00:44:18.380
And the other one on the flip side is White Reaper

00:44:18.380 --> 00:44:21.380
featuring Spiritual Cramp. So Spiritual Cramp

00:44:21.380 --> 00:44:23.340
has quickly become one of my favorite bands in

00:44:23.340 --> 00:44:25.679
the last few years. And I always describe this

00:44:25.679 --> 00:44:28.179
being like if Mark Mothersbaugh created a hipster

00:44:28.179 --> 00:44:32.519
punk band. Again. This song in particular, whatever

00:44:32.519 --> 00:44:36.099
you say, man, it makes you want to throw on a

00:44:36.099 --> 00:44:38.360
leather jacket and walk through the roughest

00:44:38.360 --> 00:44:40.280
neighborhood in your city. It's just one of those...

00:44:40.750 --> 00:44:43.190
I'm a bad mofo type songs with just a steady

00:44:43.190 --> 00:44:46.289
beat and guitars and this delightful, wonderful

00:44:46.289 --> 00:44:50.349
pretentiousness to it. And both the tracks are

00:44:50.349 --> 00:44:52.230
killer. And I love the fact that these two bands

00:44:52.230 --> 00:44:53.949
that I really love got together and became friends

00:44:53.949 --> 00:44:56.489
and did this double -sided single together. And

00:44:56.489 --> 00:44:58.590
I was actually able to see Spiritual Cramp open

00:44:58.590 --> 00:45:01.309
for The Hives in Santa Ana, California back in

00:45:01.309 --> 00:45:03.989
August. And man, their records are fantastic,

00:45:04.210 --> 00:45:07.369
but their live show is just something else. straight

00:45:07.369 --> 00:45:09.750
out of the 90s punk scene. It was just so much

00:45:09.750 --> 00:45:11.949
fun to see them play. And of course, White Reaper

00:45:11.949 --> 00:45:14.369
is legendary status for you and me. We both love

00:45:14.369 --> 00:45:17.110
that band. So these two really creative, really

00:45:17.110 --> 00:45:18.849
unique, really high energy bands getting together

00:45:18.849 --> 00:45:20.630
and just putting out these two kick -ass tracks.

00:45:21.250 --> 00:45:23.090
Honestly, I could switch one for the other on

00:45:23.090 --> 00:45:25.449
this list, but I went with Whatever You Say Man

00:45:25.449 --> 00:45:28.429
just because it's just got that badass, take

00:45:28.429 --> 00:45:32.130
no nonsense beat to it. And the chemistry and

00:45:32.130 --> 00:45:34.590
the alchemy of these two bands coming together

00:45:34.590 --> 00:45:37.619
just works in a way that... surprised me despite

00:45:37.619 --> 00:45:40.139
the fact that i love both these bands so yeah

00:45:40.139 --> 00:45:42.719
spiritual cramp featuring white reaper it's a

00:45:42.719 --> 00:45:46.559
single release called whatever you say man spoiler

00:45:46.559 --> 00:45:51.920
alert i didn't waste any time last year on episode

00:45:51.920 --> 00:45:55.719
50 making sure that white reaper got into the

00:45:55.719 --> 00:45:58.840
2023 playlist but i won't say what song go back

00:45:58.840 --> 00:46:01.019
and listen to episode 50 if you want to check

00:46:01.019 --> 00:46:05.320
out some awesome 2023 stuff and judge us on how

00:46:05.320 --> 00:46:09.599
those 2023 songs held up in 2024. But alas, I'm

00:46:09.599 --> 00:46:12.940
so glad to see a year later, we're still talking

00:46:12.940 --> 00:46:16.820
about what I consider still underrated. White

00:46:16.820 --> 00:46:19.320
Reaper, as much as you and I love them, and I

00:46:19.320 --> 00:46:21.019
know a lot of people do. I know our friends at

00:46:21.019 --> 00:46:23.079
The Itch love them. I know a lot of different

00:46:23.079 --> 00:46:26.170
podcasters are all over them. But I feel like

00:46:26.170 --> 00:46:28.789
they're still under the radar a little bit. And

00:46:28.789 --> 00:46:31.269
I feel like next year with the Warped Tour returning,

00:46:31.710 --> 00:46:34.949
I just have a feeling if they happen to be on

00:46:34.949 --> 00:46:38.349
that bill, they're going to explode like no other

00:46:38.349 --> 00:46:40.210
band. There's something about them. And Spiritual

00:46:40.210 --> 00:46:44.190
Cramp doing this release with them, I feel like

00:46:44.190 --> 00:46:47.869
it served both bands well because like this unique

00:46:47.869 --> 00:46:50.789
way of releasing albums and releasing singles

00:46:50.789 --> 00:46:52.389
like you and I have been talking about throughout

00:46:52.389 --> 00:46:56.320
tonight. each camp introduced their music to

00:46:56.320 --> 00:47:00.300
the other band's fan base. And I think it benefited

00:47:00.300 --> 00:47:03.340
both bands in the process because I was familiar

00:47:03.340 --> 00:47:08.260
with spiritual cramp before this song, but this

00:47:08.260 --> 00:47:11.119
song made me go back and dive into their music

00:47:11.119 --> 00:47:14.400
more. And I'm so glad I did. And I have to thank

00:47:14.400 --> 00:47:17.039
white Reaper for that. And I'm hoping the same

00:47:17.039 --> 00:47:20.340
happened for spiritual cramp fans that now became

00:47:20.340 --> 00:47:23.860
white Reaper fans. Yeah. It's almost like that

00:47:23.860 --> 00:47:26.659
hip hop style of collaboration where both artists

00:47:26.659 --> 00:47:28.480
or whatever artists feature on a track and a

00:47:28.480 --> 00:47:30.699
hip hop track, both get that sort of boost. And

00:47:30.699 --> 00:47:33.760
I love that communal feel of collaborating on

00:47:33.760 --> 00:47:35.199
music and releasing it together. It's awesome.

00:47:35.440 --> 00:47:38.019
And something tells me because of the success

00:47:38.019 --> 00:47:40.440
of tracks like this, we might see more of that

00:47:40.440 --> 00:47:45.980
in 2025. Yeah. But moving on from this, well,

00:47:46.119 --> 00:47:49.349
I mentioned Warped Tour. So I'm going to go with

00:47:49.349 --> 00:47:51.809
a band that when I think of Warped Tour, their

00:47:51.809 --> 00:47:56.130
name comes to mind. And this year, the band released

00:47:56.130 --> 00:48:00.329
their quote unquote, like, you know, Dr. Evil,

00:48:00.510 --> 00:48:04.829
Magma. I'm going to go with Final Album, Heaven

00:48:04.829 --> 00:48:06.949
and Hell. And I use quote marks around Final

00:48:06.949 --> 00:48:10.010
because, quite frankly, I don't believe the word

00:48:10.010 --> 00:48:13.289
Final Tour. I don't believe Final Album. I just

00:48:13.289 --> 00:48:16.389
don't believe it anymore. Kiss has made me skeptical.

00:48:16.570 --> 00:48:18.989
I've seen so many final Kiss farewell tours at

00:48:18.989 --> 00:48:21.630
this point. I swear at this point, I feel like

00:48:21.630 --> 00:48:24.090
when bands say it's their final album, it's a

00:48:24.090 --> 00:48:27.769
life encore. They like walk off stage and they're

00:48:27.769 --> 00:48:30.010
like, that's it. We're retiring. And everybody

00:48:30.010 --> 00:48:33.550
in the world yells for years, like, no, come

00:48:33.550 --> 00:48:36.070
back. And then they all come back out on stage.

00:48:36.130 --> 00:48:41.590
Like, we're just kidding. Anyway, Sum 41. Yeah,

00:48:41.590 --> 00:48:44.309
oh man. Again, with the pop punk resurgence,

00:48:44.389 --> 00:48:46.429
like hell yeah, dude. It's still happening. I

00:48:46.429 --> 00:48:49.590
mean, look, Landmines was released at the end

00:48:49.590 --> 00:48:53.010
of 2023. Like so far at the end of 2023, it was

00:48:53.010 --> 00:48:56.769
released after you and I recorded the 2023 episode.

00:48:57.170 --> 00:48:59.510
So it immediately went to, remember I said on

00:48:59.510 --> 00:49:03.849
side A, the first song on my 2024 playlist was

00:49:03.849 --> 00:49:06.409
Landmines leading into, I know it makes no sense,

00:49:06.570 --> 00:49:08.949
but that's what I do musically. Teddy Swim's

00:49:08.949 --> 00:49:11.500
Goodbye Has Been Good To You. This song reached

00:49:11.500 --> 00:49:15.079
number two on the US Rock Airplay Chart and topped

00:49:15.079 --> 00:49:18.400
both the US Alternative Airplay Chart and the

00:49:18.400 --> 00:49:22.699
Canada Rock Chart. The last time Sum 41 topped

00:49:22.699 --> 00:49:26.000
the Alternative Airplay Chart was Fat Lip in

00:49:26.000 --> 00:49:31.940
2001. 22 years, five months, and three weeks

00:49:31.940 --> 00:49:36.219
in between number ones on that chart. The longest

00:49:36.219 --> 00:49:40.380
gap. In that chart's 35 -year history, topping

00:49:40.380 --> 00:49:43.980
the killers who waited between When You Were

00:49:43.980 --> 00:49:48.840
Young in October of 2006 and Caution in April

00:49:48.840 --> 00:49:52.460
of 2020. Landmines also reached number 30 on

00:49:52.460 --> 00:49:54.820
New Zealand's Hot Singles chart and number 48

00:49:54.820 --> 00:49:58.420
on France's Airplay chart. This is quintessential

00:49:58.420 --> 00:50:02.210
Sum 41 punk rock. It's got that infectious sing

00:50:02.210 --> 00:50:05.130
-along chorus, gives you all those warm and fuzzy

00:50:05.130 --> 00:50:09.289
nostalgic early 2000s pop punk vibes. And it's

00:50:09.289 --> 00:50:11.829
only one piece of this album's puzzle as Heaven

00:50:11.829 --> 00:50:14.570
and Hell bridges the gap between the band's pop

00:50:14.570 --> 00:50:17.389
punk side and their heavier side that they've

00:50:17.389 --> 00:50:20.250
always incorporated in their sounds. Tracks like

00:50:20.250 --> 00:50:22.929
Rise Up show that these guys could play metal

00:50:22.929 --> 00:50:25.230
if they want to play metal. But this album kind

00:50:25.230 --> 00:50:29.469
of bridges the gap between the two. Landmines

00:50:29.469 --> 00:50:33.690
sounds like Derek is looking back with a little

00:50:33.690 --> 00:50:38.409
bit of understanding and a little bit of hindsight

00:50:38.409 --> 00:50:42.530
in this song. And to me, as somebody who has

00:50:42.530 --> 00:50:46.869
spent 2024 looking back on a lot with hindsight,

00:50:47.309 --> 00:50:50.170
this song just hits with me. Even though it's

00:50:50.170 --> 00:50:53.670
pop punk, it still hits me in the feel. So Landmines.

00:50:54.269 --> 00:50:57.650
Yeah, Sum 41 has a storied history. Especially

00:50:57.650 --> 00:51:00.170
the lead singer, he went through some hard times

00:51:00.170 --> 00:51:02.809
for quite a while there. And this isn't just

00:51:02.809 --> 00:51:05.989
a resurgence of the band and the genre. This

00:51:05.989 --> 00:51:08.429
is also a triumphant return for the band themselves

00:51:08.429 --> 00:51:12.090
as individuals. And this album's got that spirit

00:51:12.090 --> 00:51:15.250
to it. And again, like I said, I grew up sneaking

00:51:15.250 --> 00:51:17.050
into Warped Tour and meeting all the bands. Never

00:51:17.050 --> 00:51:19.210
met Sum 41, met a bunch of other bands, but they're

00:51:19.210 --> 00:51:22.250
all the fun bands that I really followed and

00:51:22.250 --> 00:51:25.280
really looked up to. And I had some friends back

00:51:25.280 --> 00:51:26.860
in the day in a band called Authority Zero in

00:51:26.860 --> 00:51:29.159
Arizona, and they toured with Sum 41 extensively.

00:51:29.760 --> 00:51:31.900
And they had nothing but nice things to say about

00:51:31.900 --> 00:51:33.820
all those guys. And they had some absolutely

00:51:33.820 --> 00:51:35.960
epic prank wars, too, when they were on tour

00:51:35.960 --> 00:51:38.400
together. So Sum 41's always been a band that's

00:51:38.400 --> 00:51:41.980
been near and dear to my heart. And I love the

00:51:41.980 --> 00:51:44.159
fact that they're like... the forerunners along

00:51:44.159 --> 00:51:46.159
with like Bleak 182 is this resurgence of pop

00:51:46.159 --> 00:51:49.340
punk in 2024. I love the song and I love the

00:51:49.340 --> 00:51:51.000
way you said that they've been sort of mixing

00:51:51.000 --> 00:51:52.880
up genres and they've been really sort of stretching

00:51:52.880 --> 00:51:55.019
their musical muscles too and playing a bunch

00:51:55.019 --> 00:51:57.219
of different styles and not necessarily like

00:51:57.219 --> 00:51:59.420
keeping themselves to just that sort of pop punk

00:51:59.420 --> 00:52:02.360
feel. They're wildly talented musicians. I think

00:52:02.360 --> 00:52:04.139
a lot of people kind of box them into the pop

00:52:04.139 --> 00:52:07.059
punk sort of genre back in the day. And I don't

00:52:07.059 --> 00:52:08.619
know if they even necessarily wanted it to be

00:52:08.619 --> 00:52:10.300
that. I know they were having a lot of fun doing

00:52:10.300 --> 00:52:12.769
it back in the day, but... They're wildly talented.

00:52:12.869 --> 00:52:14.550
And the fact that they're able to come back and

00:52:14.550 --> 00:52:16.530
have this triumphant return and kind of shock

00:52:16.530 --> 00:52:18.710
some people at the same time, I really, really

00:52:18.710 --> 00:52:22.929
enjoy. So awesome pick. Thinking on it now, I

00:52:22.929 --> 00:52:24.829
don't think you could have a best of 2024 list

00:52:24.829 --> 00:52:27.429
without some 41s return on here. It's wonderful.

00:52:28.030 --> 00:52:31.250
And hopefully in 2025, we say, see, I told you

00:52:31.250 --> 00:52:33.309
so. They already have their reunion album out.

00:52:33.829 --> 00:52:36.130
I would love to see them if they want to stick

00:52:36.130 --> 00:52:37.929
around long enough to show up on Warped Tour,

00:52:38.050 --> 00:52:39.630
because I'm thinking about going to the Long

00:52:39.630 --> 00:52:42.679
Beach, California location. And I'd love to see

00:52:42.679 --> 00:52:44.699
them there with a number of other bands I love

00:52:44.699 --> 00:52:46.440
back in the day that I saw in a Warped Tour many,

00:52:46.559 --> 00:52:48.960
many times, many years in a row. So that'd be

00:52:48.960 --> 00:52:51.480
cool if they showed up. But like you said, they're

00:52:51.480 --> 00:52:53.079
always kind of shaky about whether or not they're

00:52:53.079 --> 00:52:54.219
going to do something else or they're going to

00:52:54.219 --> 00:52:56.000
stay broken up. And I understand their reasons

00:52:56.000 --> 00:52:59.480
why. But like I said, I've been a lifelong KISS

00:52:59.480 --> 00:53:01.679
fan. And I've been to so many final KISS reunion

00:53:01.679 --> 00:53:05.619
tours and farewell tours. And musicians get that

00:53:05.619 --> 00:53:07.980
itch. They miss the performing. They miss the

00:53:07.980 --> 00:53:09.619
writing. They miss their friends that they...

00:53:09.980 --> 00:53:12.039
used to spend every waking minute with on the

00:53:12.039 --> 00:53:14.099
road. And I get why a lot of these bands will

00:53:14.099 --> 00:53:16.780
come back, even if it's for a short run, just

00:53:16.780 --> 00:53:18.840
to come back and have fun and do it for a little

00:53:18.840 --> 00:53:21.579
while. And then if they're able to, and they

00:53:21.579 --> 00:53:23.420
have the luxury of doing so, take another break

00:53:23.420 --> 00:53:25.000
and chill and then come back with something weird

00:53:25.000 --> 00:53:27.019
and cool and obscure a few years down the road.

00:53:27.079 --> 00:53:29.719
It's great. All right. Well, we are moving on

00:53:29.719 --> 00:53:33.280
to track four. What do you got next? So I'm going

00:53:33.280 --> 00:53:35.920
to go with another sort of hybrid band, which

00:53:35.920 --> 00:53:37.800
I think kind of sort of ties in with the whole

00:53:37.800 --> 00:53:41.760
Sum 41 vibe in a very weird, loose way. Once

00:53:41.760 --> 00:53:43.320
I say the band and the track, it's not going

00:53:43.320 --> 00:53:44.880
to make any sense, but it made sense to me in

00:53:44.880 --> 00:53:49.460
my head just now. The track I've chosen is the

00:53:49.460 --> 00:53:52.880
Stargate by Blood Incantation off their 2024

00:53:52.880 --> 00:53:57.760
album, Absolute Elsewhere. And I bring them up.

00:53:57.949 --> 00:54:00.269
immediately after Sum 41, because this is a band

00:54:00.269 --> 00:54:01.829
that's a death metal band, but they're equal

00:54:01.829 --> 00:54:04.670
parts death metal and prog rock, which should

00:54:04.670 --> 00:54:07.849
not make sense on paper, but they're such wildly

00:54:07.849 --> 00:54:10.809
talented musicians. And when you tie in the death

00:54:10.809 --> 00:54:13.690
metal sort of, sort of aesthetic and what they're

00:54:13.690 --> 00:54:16.250
all about and with like the weird sort of stonerness

00:54:16.250 --> 00:54:20.030
of prog rock, it makes sense. So they're a weird

00:54:20.030 --> 00:54:22.969
band, but they're awesome. And they just, they

00:54:22.969 --> 00:54:24.909
have these songs throughout this entire album,

00:54:24.989 --> 00:54:26.489
absolutely elsewhere. Well, they'll go, they'll

00:54:26.489 --> 00:54:29.920
go from the, drop D tuning, the heavy growling,

00:54:29.980 --> 00:54:32.400
the double bass pedals. And they'll go into these

00:54:32.400 --> 00:54:34.780
wild stretches of prog rock, which are like not

00:54:34.780 --> 00:54:37.000
dissimilar from like King Crimson, for example.

00:54:37.500 --> 00:54:40.159
And they just do this back and forth. And it's

00:54:40.159 --> 00:54:43.119
almost seamless to where you just, you stop realizing

00:54:43.119 --> 00:54:45.019
that you've stopped listening to a death metal

00:54:45.019 --> 00:54:46.860
song halfway through. And now you're listening

00:54:46.860 --> 00:54:48.880
to a prog rock song. And all of a sudden it just

00:54:48.880 --> 00:54:50.719
shifts right back into death metal. It's just,

00:54:50.739 --> 00:54:53.400
it's wild. And it's really cool. And what's also

00:54:53.400 --> 00:54:55.000
awesome is the fact that they're from Colorado.

00:54:55.019 --> 00:54:57.039
So they're from my neck of the woods, which is

00:54:57.039 --> 00:55:03.050
cool. And this album is quietly on a ton of best

00:55:03.050 --> 00:55:06.670
albums of 2024 lists across the country, across

00:55:06.670 --> 00:55:09.730
the internet even. And they're just this sort

00:55:09.730 --> 00:55:11.730
of under the radar band that not a lot of people

00:55:11.730 --> 00:55:14.130
know about unless they're big fans of the genre.

00:55:14.510 --> 00:55:16.610
And it's cool that they're just very quietly

00:55:16.610 --> 00:55:18.809
sort of leading the charge of death metal in

00:55:18.809 --> 00:55:22.590
America. And I've got this friend who is a huge,

00:55:22.650 --> 00:55:24.530
massive death metal and metal fan in general.

00:55:24.570 --> 00:55:26.150
She knows more about the genre and the musicians

00:55:26.150 --> 00:55:29.119
than I'll ever know. And she refers to them as

00:55:29.119 --> 00:55:31.239
pretty good for an American death metal band,

00:55:31.519 --> 00:55:34.880
which doesn't sound like the highest praise ever,

00:55:34.980 --> 00:55:38.039
but it actually is. So go and listen to the album,

00:55:38.119 --> 00:55:40.519
but in particular, listen to The Stargate, which

00:55:40.519 --> 00:55:44.559
I think is a very good sort of summary of what

00:55:44.559 --> 00:55:45.760
they're doing with the album or what they do

00:55:45.760 --> 00:55:47.920
as musicians in general. You get a really healthy

00:55:47.920 --> 00:55:50.800
mix of their death metal side, but also the prog

00:55:50.800 --> 00:55:52.980
rock that they kind of bend into and out of as

00:55:52.980 --> 00:55:55.400
they're... sort of weaving these long eight minute

00:55:55.400 --> 00:55:59.219
long tapestries of songs. So yeah, Blood Incantations,

00:55:59.219 --> 00:56:02.559
The Stargate off of the album Absolute Elsewhere.

00:56:02.760 --> 00:56:06.559
Which is named after a prog rock band, Absolute

00:56:06.559 --> 00:56:09.099
Elsewhere. So there's a little prog stuff. I'm

00:56:09.099 --> 00:56:11.940
sure Sean Faust, we have his ears propped up

00:56:11.940 --> 00:56:13.719
as he's listening to this episode right now.

00:56:13.739 --> 00:56:16.860
I mean, yes, this is death metal. Make no mistake.

00:56:16.980 --> 00:56:20.739
It is heavy as freaking hell, but it's also.

00:56:21.130 --> 00:56:25.769
Proggy and trippy and dare I use the word jammy.

00:56:26.050 --> 00:56:29.829
This song takes death metal and fuses it with

00:56:29.829 --> 00:56:32.489
this progressive jam band trippiness. I mean,

00:56:32.510 --> 00:56:36.030
at eight minutes and 20 seconds long, I'm pretty

00:56:36.030 --> 00:56:37.750
much going to assume this is going to be our

00:56:37.750 --> 00:56:41.130
longest song of the evening. But I think it's

00:56:41.130 --> 00:56:44.030
unique and refreshing if either one of those

00:56:44.030 --> 00:56:47.360
genres are your go to. And with that, I will

00:56:47.360 --> 00:56:50.079
say that one thing's for certain, my weekly mixtape

00:56:50.079 --> 00:56:53.840
will be the only Songs of 2024 playlist that

00:56:53.840 --> 00:56:56.739
will include a spectrum of JPEG Mafia to Sabrina

00:56:56.739 --> 00:56:59.860
Carpenter to Teddy Swims to Blood Incantation.

00:57:00.460 --> 00:57:03.659
But while I don't have anything that leans towards

00:57:03.659 --> 00:57:07.460
the prog side of the spectrum, I do have a song

00:57:07.460 --> 00:57:09.920
that'll work on the heavy side of the spectrum

00:57:09.920 --> 00:57:13.380
in my list. It's not death metal, it's more grind

00:57:13.380 --> 00:57:16.449
metal, but I feel like... It's the heaviest thing

00:57:16.449 --> 00:57:19.530
I've got to come out of that. And I'm going to

00:57:19.530 --> 00:57:22.730
go there for similar to the Joey Valance embrace

00:57:22.730 --> 00:57:24.929
story, something a little personal with this

00:57:24.929 --> 00:57:28.349
song. And I'm going to go with lamb of God featuring

00:57:28.349 --> 00:57:32.710
Mastodon single floods. Hell yes. I love it.

00:57:32.769 --> 00:57:36.309
This was released on the heels of the group's

00:57:36.309 --> 00:57:39.750
co -headlining ashes of Leviathan arena tour,

00:57:39.829 --> 00:57:42.889
which celebrated their respective albums, ashes

00:57:42.889 --> 00:57:46.699
of the wake and Leviathan. I had to miss this

00:57:46.699 --> 00:57:49.780
tour this summer because at the time that the

00:57:49.780 --> 00:57:52.019
tour was rolling through the area, I was in a

00:57:52.019 --> 00:57:54.340
hospital recovering from open heart surgery.

00:57:54.579 --> 00:57:57.360
I've talked about this on a couple episodes of

00:57:57.360 --> 00:58:00.639
my weekly mixtape over the fall, and I've mentioned

00:58:00.639 --> 00:58:03.820
it on social media. But I know people pick and

00:58:03.820 --> 00:58:06.139
choose what episodes of the show they listen

00:58:06.139 --> 00:58:09.559
to based on the styles of music they like. And

00:58:09.559 --> 00:58:11.260
I know a lot of people will listen to this one

00:58:11.260 --> 00:58:13.280
because it kind of covers all styles of music.

00:58:14.570 --> 00:58:18.070
Long story short, I was home recovering from

00:58:18.070 --> 00:58:23.489
this life -changing major event in my life. And

00:58:23.489 --> 00:58:26.429
my wife's cousin, Sue, who I will forever be

00:58:26.429 --> 00:58:30.070
grateful for, had Mark Morton of Lamb of God

00:58:30.070 --> 00:58:34.210
create a cameo and send it to me. No way. As

00:58:34.210 --> 00:58:36.929
I was recovering from open heart surgery. While

00:58:36.929 --> 00:58:41.369
he was on tour? While he was on this tour. Cool.

00:58:41.369 --> 00:58:44.650
He did it from up in Maine. And if it's okay,

00:58:44.730 --> 00:58:48.050
I'm going to just share a short clip. I'm not

00:58:48.050 --> 00:58:49.250
going to share the whole thing because some of

00:58:49.250 --> 00:58:51.550
it involves personal stuff that I'd rather not

00:58:51.550 --> 00:58:54.710
air. But this one section right here, I listened

00:58:54.710 --> 00:58:57.829
to so many times during my heart surgery recovery.

00:58:58.010 --> 00:59:00.730
And I just want to play it because it just means

00:59:00.730 --> 00:59:05.010
so, so much to me. So what I would leave you

00:59:05.010 --> 00:59:07.469
with, Brian, is that I think you probably know

00:59:07.469 --> 00:59:11.349
this. already, but I will remind you that music

00:59:11.349 --> 00:59:13.849
heals. It really does. It's like a spiritual

00:59:13.849 --> 00:59:17.369
thing. And I think you're probably very in tune

00:59:17.369 --> 00:59:20.710
with that because of just how big a part music

00:59:20.710 --> 00:59:23.889
plays in your life. So don't forget that music

00:59:23.889 --> 00:59:26.710
is healing and lean into that because you need

00:59:26.710 --> 00:59:29.530
some healing right now. And I'm glad you're on

00:59:29.530 --> 00:59:33.139
the mend. godspeed you did the right thing so

00:59:33.139 --> 00:59:34.860
you can be present for your daughters and for

00:59:34.860 --> 00:59:37.860
your family and for your wife and for your wife's

00:59:37.860 --> 00:59:42.980
cousin sue so godspeed to you and um lean into

00:59:42.980 --> 00:59:46.099
the music man and get well soon get better soon

00:59:46.099 --> 00:59:50.659
get uh i think you are better just get uh get

00:59:50.659 --> 00:59:53.059
back to doing your thing as quick as possible

00:59:53.059 --> 00:59:57.860
i mean that is everything i love about music

00:59:57.860 --> 01:00:01.019
and it's coming from Mark Morton of Lamb of God.

01:00:01.159 --> 01:00:03.880
So Mark, thank you so much for that cameo. Sue,

01:00:04.099 --> 01:00:07.179
thank you so much for sending that to me. You

01:00:07.179 --> 01:00:10.000
have no idea how much that brightened my summer

01:00:10.000 --> 01:00:13.099
as I was recovering from this. And I should also

01:00:13.099 --> 01:00:16.699
take this moment to thank my family and other

01:00:16.699 --> 01:00:20.539
podcasters like UDT and Jason from It's Not That

01:00:20.539 --> 01:00:23.880
Bad and The Itch and Sean Faust, all the friends

01:00:23.880 --> 01:00:27.969
that rallied around me, Gomez at Sleevy G. Thank

01:00:27.969 --> 01:00:54.480
you. I know this is kind of heartfelt in a Lamb

01:00:54.480 --> 01:00:56.639
of God segment, but thank you, thank you, thank

01:00:56.639 --> 01:00:59.059
you. Lamb of God is for the children. They're

01:00:59.059 --> 01:01:01.679
wonderful, man. They're metal, but they're accessible.

01:01:01.860 --> 01:01:04.199
They're great. And that's one of the coolest

01:01:04.199 --> 01:01:05.760
things I've ever heard. Not just the clip, but

01:01:05.760 --> 01:01:08.480
just the story of how your family really kind

01:01:08.480 --> 01:01:11.480
of came together and rallied around you. Yeah.

01:01:11.539 --> 01:01:13.699
I mean, I, I've been a part of the, I I've moved

01:01:13.699 --> 01:01:16.019
on to YouTube. Um, I'm not necessarily a podcaster

01:01:16.019 --> 01:01:17.599
anymore, but you and I became really good friends

01:01:17.599 --> 01:01:20.099
as a result of both being podcasters. Yes. And

01:01:20.099 --> 01:01:22.880
it was my absolute honor to help in any way I

01:01:22.880 --> 01:01:25.000
could while you were in that situation. And I

01:01:25.000 --> 01:01:26.400
hope that I helped in some small way. I don't

01:01:26.400 --> 01:01:27.860
know. Obviously it wasn't there in the whole,

01:01:27.880 --> 01:01:31.960
uh, you know, I was gonna say a hotel room. Yeah.

01:01:32.320 --> 01:01:34.440
I was, and obviously it wasn't there on your

01:01:34.440 --> 01:01:36.139
side of the country in the, in the hospital room

01:01:36.139 --> 01:01:38.539
to, you know, help and whatnot. But I'm, I, I

01:01:38.539 --> 01:01:40.360
personally, I am very thankful for your family.

01:01:40.590 --> 01:01:43.889
your kids that they sort of jumped up and answered

01:01:43.889 --> 01:01:45.929
the call and helped maintain the show because

01:01:45.929 --> 01:01:48.630
you mean a lot to me and you mean a lot to a

01:01:48.630 --> 01:01:50.429
lot of people. And I think the show means a lot

01:01:50.429 --> 01:01:52.949
to a lot of people too. And the fact that this

01:01:52.949 --> 01:01:54.829
community rallied around the show, which means

01:01:54.829 --> 01:01:56.449
so much to a lot of people, myself included,

01:01:56.690 --> 01:01:59.469
it's just a beautiful thing. And it happened

01:01:59.469 --> 01:02:02.190
under not the greatest of circumstances, but

01:02:02.190 --> 01:02:05.110
it's sometimes those circumstances that show

01:02:05.110 --> 01:02:07.869
us how much we mean to the people around us.

01:02:08.489 --> 01:02:10.289
And it's just a really sweet story. So thank

01:02:10.289 --> 01:02:12.170
you to your kids. Thank you to your wife. Thank

01:02:12.170 --> 01:02:13.809
you to your wife's cousin for that incredible

01:02:13.809 --> 01:02:15.929
clip. I can't believe he sat down and recorded

01:02:15.929 --> 01:02:17.909
that while he was on tour too. That is just one

01:02:17.909 --> 01:02:19.570
of the coolest things I've ever heard. So yeah,

01:02:19.730 --> 01:02:23.130
I'll never, that'll never leave my phone. I mean,

01:02:23.130 --> 01:02:25.869
no. And to be honest, you know, I will say I

01:02:25.869 --> 01:02:29.750
look back at this year with a lot of gratefulness

01:02:29.750 --> 01:02:32.269
and it's a tough word to use when you say you

01:02:32.269 --> 01:02:35.269
had open heart surgery, but many doctors told

01:02:35.269 --> 01:02:39.000
me, had I not. I would not have made it through

01:02:39.000 --> 01:02:42.119
the summer. So it was a preventative surgery.

01:02:42.800 --> 01:02:46.099
But at the end of the day, I am here talking

01:02:46.099 --> 01:02:50.199
to you right now and able to continue this show

01:02:50.199 --> 01:02:54.000
based on the love and help that everyone provided.

01:02:54.599 --> 01:02:56.820
Honestly, I could have very easily just said

01:02:56.820 --> 01:03:00.780
taking two months off of the show because of

01:03:00.780 --> 01:03:02.880
what's happening and everybody would have understood.

01:03:02.940 --> 01:03:05.039
I know that everybody would have understood.

01:03:06.510 --> 01:03:08.550
As I'm laying in the hospital, my oldest said

01:03:08.550 --> 01:03:10.170
to me, what are you going to do? You're just

01:03:10.170 --> 01:03:13.090
sitting here. You're laying here. You know, that's

01:03:13.090 --> 01:03:15.130
where your mind is going. Let me just sit here

01:03:15.130 --> 01:03:17.809
and do it for you. You just talk to me and, and

01:03:17.809 --> 01:03:20.329
we'll, you've got all these. I had recorded a

01:03:20.329 --> 01:03:22.630
bunch of episodes because I had planned to take

01:03:22.630 --> 01:03:24.769
the summer off to spend more time with the family,

01:03:24.909 --> 01:03:28.190
not to have open heart surgery. So like the stars

01:03:28.190 --> 01:03:30.690
aligned in a very weird way. And there were some

01:03:30.690 --> 01:03:33.750
people that still don't even know I had it. So

01:03:33.750 --> 01:03:36.960
yeah, somehow I've been able to go. This is episode

01:03:36.960 --> 01:03:40.320
98, 98 straight weeks without missing an episode.

01:03:40.420 --> 01:03:43.059
So, I mean, if there's anything I could, there's

01:03:43.059 --> 01:03:45.159
nobody that'll question my dedication to this

01:03:45.159 --> 01:03:49.480
show, I guess. Hell no. But anyway, enough about

01:03:49.480 --> 01:03:52.920
me. Let's get back to the songs of 2024. I mean,

01:03:52.960 --> 01:03:56.679
following up Blood Incantation and Lamb of God,

01:03:56.920 --> 01:03:59.619
where do we go from here? All right. Well, I

01:03:59.619 --> 01:04:02.079
mean, the last track was Floods of Triton. And

01:04:02.079 --> 01:04:05.670
I mean. Speaking of floods washing away everything

01:04:05.670 --> 01:04:09.289
and waves of destruction, don't ever piss off

01:04:09.289 --> 01:04:14.829
Kendrick Lamar. Holy crap. Not Like Us may go

01:04:14.829 --> 01:04:17.409
down as not only the top hip hop single of 2024,

01:04:17.769 --> 01:04:20.469
it also may just go down as one of the most iconic

01:04:20.469 --> 01:04:24.309
tracks of 2024, period. Regardless of your take

01:04:24.309 --> 01:04:27.449
of what went on between Drake and Kendrick Lamar.

01:04:28.110 --> 01:04:31.090
This track is absolute hip hop genius in its

01:04:31.090 --> 01:04:34.130
design and execution. And this is just one of

01:04:34.130 --> 01:04:38.909
the quietly meanest mofos in hip hop at his most

01:04:38.909 --> 01:04:41.690
diabolical. This is just a killer track. It's

01:04:41.690 --> 01:04:43.989
one of the most iconic tracks, iconic disc tracks

01:04:43.989 --> 01:04:47.050
of all time, depending on your take on disc tracks.

01:04:47.449 --> 01:04:50.489
But it's also just like peak rap and hip hop

01:04:50.489 --> 01:04:53.050
from one of its most like modern and legendary

01:04:53.050 --> 01:04:56.559
individuals working today. It's a longer track

01:04:56.559 --> 01:05:00.380
and it's just relentless and it's just diabolical

01:05:00.380 --> 01:05:04.619
and mean jabs at Drake, which I'm not going to

01:05:04.619 --> 01:05:07.639
say if I agree or not. I've got my take on what

01:05:07.639 --> 01:05:09.380
happened between the two of them, as most people

01:05:09.380 --> 01:05:11.239
do, because it was very, very public and it's

01:05:11.239 --> 01:05:14.340
become very sort of iconic even in the realm

01:05:14.340 --> 01:05:17.260
of pop culture for the year of 2024. But it's

01:05:17.260 --> 01:05:20.480
also just a really, really freaking good and

01:05:20.480 --> 01:05:23.179
well -engineered and well -produced hip hop track.

01:05:24.019 --> 01:05:26.159
Like Kendrick Lamar being pissed off at somebody

01:05:26.159 --> 01:05:28.099
and coming at him with one of the best songs,

01:05:28.280 --> 01:05:30.519
one of the best hip hop songs of this year and

01:05:30.519 --> 01:05:33.079
maybe the last decade. Like there's just no coming

01:05:33.079 --> 01:05:37.380
back from that. Like Drake, just go home, go

01:05:37.380 --> 01:05:41.539
to bed, call it a night, relax, wake up the next

01:05:41.539 --> 01:05:44.710
day and see what you can do. Yeah, no, Not Like

01:05:44.710 --> 01:05:47.329
Us had to be on this. It was just an iconic move,

01:05:47.550 --> 01:05:50.690
an iconic track from an iconic rapper, and just

01:05:50.690 --> 01:05:53.889
one of the most out of left field and wild happenings

01:05:53.889 --> 01:05:56.820
in pop culture this year at the same time. Reached

01:05:56.820 --> 01:05:59.599
number one on the U .S. Billboard Hot 100, U

01:05:59.599 --> 01:06:03.460
.S. Hot R &B and Hip -Hop Songs, U .S. Pop Airplay,

01:06:03.579 --> 01:06:07.059
and U .S. Rhythmic Charts. It also topped the

01:06:07.059 --> 01:06:10.519
Billboard Global 200, the Australia Hip -Hop

01:06:10.519 --> 01:06:14.460
R &B Charts, and the U .K. Hip -Hop R &B Charts,

01:06:14.460 --> 01:06:18.480
as well as topping charts in several other countries.

01:06:19.719 --> 01:06:22.880
Worldwide smash. Here in the U .S., it spent

01:06:22.880 --> 01:06:27.869
21 weeks. Atop the hot rap songs chart, which

01:06:27.869 --> 01:06:31.809
broke the record by Lil Nas X's Old Town Road

01:06:31.809 --> 01:06:34.429
featuring Billy Ray Cyrus. And you know how long

01:06:34.429 --> 01:06:37.670
that song was on the radio because everybody

01:06:37.670 --> 01:06:40.550
got sick of it by the time that Old Town Road

01:06:40.550 --> 01:06:43.929
ended its run. People did not get sick of Not

01:06:43.929 --> 01:06:47.449
Like Us this year. And to me, this song instantly

01:06:47.449 --> 01:06:50.949
reached the Mount Rushmore of top hip hop diss

01:06:50.949 --> 01:06:54.639
tracks, including. cannabis is second round knockout

01:06:54.639 --> 01:07:00.159
ice cubes no vaseline ether by nos and tupac

01:07:00.159 --> 01:07:02.940
with the outlaws hit him up i mean not like us

01:07:02.940 --> 01:07:05.980
has to be included at this point it was that

01:07:05.980 --> 01:07:09.760
brutal of a takedown and then the video just

01:07:09.760 --> 01:07:12.679
did it all over again like it was so rough like

01:07:12.679 --> 01:07:14.960
could you imagine starting up some beef with

01:07:14.960 --> 01:07:17.230
kendrick And he comes back like a week later

01:07:17.230 --> 01:07:19.090
and he writes this track that sets the entire

01:07:19.090 --> 01:07:22.309
world on fire. It gets the entire world on his

01:07:22.309 --> 01:07:24.929
side. Can you imagine pissing this guy off and

01:07:24.929 --> 01:07:26.690
he comes back and he's got the entire planet

01:07:26.690 --> 01:07:29.570
coming after you? Like, my God, insane. Just

01:07:29.570 --> 01:07:32.289
insane. But again, an incredible rap track too.

01:07:32.630 --> 01:07:35.800
Like he just was not messing around. No, if Kendrick

01:07:35.800 --> 01:07:38.119
Lamar ever cut me off, I wouldn't even honk at

01:07:38.119 --> 01:07:39.900
him. I would just say thank you. I would ask

01:07:39.900 --> 01:07:41.719
him if he would like to take my car. Just do

01:07:41.719 --> 01:07:44.760
you want my car? Just don't write any songs about

01:07:44.760 --> 01:07:46.780
my weekly mixtape. I don't think I can handle

01:07:46.780 --> 01:07:49.320
the heat, man. My heart's not strong enough for

01:07:49.320 --> 01:07:53.280
that, I don't think. But following that up, I

01:07:53.280 --> 01:07:58.800
think the only logical place to go is when one

01:07:58.800 --> 01:08:02.659
of the greatest comes out with a new album. And

01:08:02.659 --> 01:08:04.659
we got to talk about the death of Slim Shady,

01:08:04.719 --> 01:08:08.739
Coup de Grace, Eminem. And I am going to go with

01:08:08.739 --> 01:08:11.980
Houdini. It reached number two on the U .S. Billboard

01:08:11.980 --> 01:08:15.719
Hot 100. But it topped the Billboard Global 200,

01:08:16.140 --> 01:08:19.760
the Canada Hot 100, the Australia ARIA charts,

01:08:19.939 --> 01:08:24.539
the U .K. Singles chart, as well as a dozen other

01:08:24.539 --> 01:08:26.560
countries. For some reason, was not a number

01:08:26.560 --> 01:08:29.359
one hit here in the U .S. Probably because they're

01:08:29.359 --> 01:08:32.760
not like us, but it did win Best Hip Hop Video

01:08:32.760 --> 01:08:37.079
and Best Visual Effects at the 2024 MTV Video

01:08:37.079 --> 01:08:40.539
Music Awards. I didn't even know MTV still played

01:08:40.539 --> 01:08:43.479
music videos, but that goes from there. Maybe

01:08:43.479 --> 01:08:45.020
a YouTube channel? Did they play them there?

01:08:45.100 --> 01:08:48.600
I don't know. The song interpolates prior hits

01:08:48.600 --> 01:08:50.939
from Eminem, Without Me, My Name Is, and Just

01:08:50.939 --> 01:08:54.479
Lose It, along with Steve Miller Band's massive

01:08:54.479 --> 01:08:58.010
1982 hit, Abracadabra. which Steve Miller himself

01:08:58.010 --> 01:09:01.409
praised, saying that Eminem is, and I got to

01:09:01.409 --> 01:09:04.869
read this quote here, one of those timeless originators

01:09:04.869 --> 01:09:08.750
building something new on a long legacy of original

01:09:08.750 --> 01:09:12.649
artists, which is huge praise, especially that

01:09:12.649 --> 01:09:15.689
he sampled and interpolated Steve Miller's song.

01:09:15.810 --> 01:09:18.010
Some artists might get offended by it. I think

01:09:18.010 --> 01:09:21.130
this was nothing but love here. This song takes

01:09:21.130 --> 01:09:24.770
shots at everything and everyone, including...

01:09:25.340 --> 01:09:28.060
DT, both you and I as listeners, I mean, Eminem

01:09:28.060 --> 01:09:31.060
goes after his own kids in this song. Some people

01:09:31.060 --> 01:09:34.199
praised it and some people loathed it. But the

01:09:34.199 --> 01:09:37.739
thing is, Eminem is 52 years old as of 2024,

01:09:37.840 --> 01:09:41.460
and he still manages to stir the pot lyrically

01:09:41.460 --> 01:09:45.319
and musically. And he gets conversation started

01:09:45.319 --> 01:09:48.260
as if he's finished or washed or whatever you

01:09:48.260 --> 01:09:50.460
want to call it. This whole time that people

01:09:50.460 --> 01:09:52.479
are arguing, these songs are rocketing up the

01:09:52.479 --> 01:09:55.600
charts. And there aren't many artists that are

01:09:55.600 --> 01:09:58.520
able to create such a longevity on the charts

01:09:58.520 --> 01:10:01.739
while always bringing controversy along with

01:10:01.739 --> 01:10:03.779
the ride. And one that I want to compare it to,

01:10:03.840 --> 01:10:07.420
and yes, people might go, what? But Madonna.

01:10:07.920 --> 01:10:11.960
Because Madonna was always bringing controversy

01:10:11.960 --> 01:10:15.039
along with her hits. Think back to Like a Virgin.

01:10:15.579 --> 01:10:18.819
Then fast forward to Like a Prayer. Then fast

01:10:18.819 --> 01:10:22.420
forward to Justify My Love and the Erotica video.

01:10:23.199 --> 01:10:27.159
She knew how to bring controversy with her songs

01:10:27.159 --> 01:10:29.899
to always bring her to the front of the news

01:10:29.899 --> 01:10:31.720
and the front of the charts. And Eminem has done

01:10:31.720 --> 01:10:35.939
that in the world of hip hop. 52 years old, dropping

01:10:35.939 --> 01:10:39.239
a song like this, whether you love it or not,

01:10:39.420 --> 01:10:43.239
the chart speak for itself. Yeah, it's Eminem,

01:10:43.239 --> 01:10:45.260
man. Anytime the man speaks, the world listens.

01:10:45.359 --> 01:10:47.239
Like he's an icon. He's one of the greatest rappers

01:10:47.239 --> 01:10:49.720
to have ever. wrapped he's the one of the greatest

01:10:49.720 --> 01:10:51.500
in the game and he probably always will be that

01:10:51.500 --> 01:10:53.619
man's gonna be 65 70 and still dropping hot like

01:10:53.619 --> 01:10:56.159
fire tracks like and still bring a controversy

01:10:56.159 --> 01:10:58.199
and finding ways to like freak out the kids and

01:10:58.199 --> 01:11:01.069
the old people like it's incredible It's really

01:11:01.069 --> 01:11:02.850
funny to me. Well, first of all, I love that

01:11:02.850 --> 01:11:05.050
pic. Like I said, it's Eminem. It's iconic. He

01:11:05.050 --> 01:11:07.250
dropped something new in 2024. It automatically

01:11:07.250 --> 01:11:09.890
belongs in the top 2024 songs. Like it just does

01:11:09.890 --> 01:11:12.289
automatically. But it's funny that you picked

01:11:12.289 --> 01:11:14.529
Houdini off that album because I had something

01:11:14.529 --> 01:11:16.210
in my bank and now I'm just going to drop it.

01:11:16.989 --> 01:11:19.670
I think I know what this is. I'm not going to

01:11:19.670 --> 01:11:23.340
say anything. It's Dua Lipa. It's Dua Lipa. It's

01:11:23.340 --> 01:11:26.640
Houdini off of Radical Optimism. Because first

01:11:26.640 --> 01:11:29.979
of all, it's got the same track name as the Eminem

01:11:29.979 --> 01:11:32.520
song. But the song is also an interpolation of

01:11:32.520 --> 01:11:35.539
another 80s hit, which is such a weird coincidence.

01:11:35.920 --> 01:11:38.420
Like you said, Eminem, he interpolated Abracadabra

01:11:38.420 --> 01:11:41.000
by Steve Miller Band. And this track, Houdini

01:11:41.000 --> 01:11:44.300
by Dua Lipa off of her 2024 release Radical Optimism,

01:11:44.300 --> 01:11:48.020
is an interpolation of the synth track from Talk

01:11:48.020 --> 01:11:51.680
Talk's It's My Life. Yes. Which is, it's genius

01:11:51.680 --> 01:11:54.319
the way it's implemented. But Dua just, I think

01:11:54.319 --> 01:11:56.659
she was probably on my 2023 list too last year.

01:11:56.659 --> 01:11:58.119
She was. Spoiler alert. I won't say what song

01:11:58.119 --> 01:12:00.659
though. Let people go back to episode 50 and

01:12:00.659 --> 01:12:03.699
find out for themselves. Yeah, but she just continues

01:12:03.699 --> 01:12:06.380
to dominate pop music and dance halls and my

01:12:06.380 --> 01:12:10.579
playlists. She's just, I mean, Houdini is just

01:12:10.579 --> 01:12:13.319
this killer dance track and just a single off

01:12:13.319 --> 01:12:15.560
of a killer dance album. And like I said, it's

01:12:15.560 --> 01:12:17.880
got that clever sampling of the synth from Talk

01:12:17.880 --> 01:12:20.579
Talk's It's My Life, which is an iconic song

01:12:20.579 --> 01:12:23.579
in its own right. And like you said, when you

01:12:23.579 --> 01:12:25.960
were discussing Eminem's Houdini, people take

01:12:25.960 --> 01:12:28.449
issue with... pop artists or hip hop artists

01:12:28.449 --> 01:12:30.529
interpolating or sampling classic songs like

01:12:30.529 --> 01:12:32.449
this. And I don't know why, because they've been

01:12:32.449 --> 01:12:34.810
doing it since the beginning of time. And Dua

01:12:34.810 --> 01:12:37.329
Lipa has taken her lumps for doing so. And she's

01:12:37.329 --> 01:12:39.210
really learned from it. And so have her co -writers

01:12:39.210 --> 01:12:41.750
and her producers. And we need to stop picking

01:12:41.750 --> 01:12:43.390
on her in particular for this for some reason.

01:12:43.449 --> 01:12:45.550
I don't know why people insist on jumping on

01:12:45.550 --> 01:12:48.590
her for doing this, because it is a super smart

01:12:48.590 --> 01:12:51.210
and super clever use of Talk Talk's It's My Life.

01:12:51.649 --> 01:12:54.430
And it's just a great bop. It's a great song.

01:12:54.920 --> 01:12:57.779
And if you're going to crank out dance anthems,

01:12:57.800 --> 01:13:01.800
what better genre or decade to pull from to craft

01:13:01.800 --> 01:13:04.840
these songs in the 80s? It's just a great track.

01:13:04.920 --> 01:13:08.880
It's a wonderful, sweet, endearing, confident,

01:13:09.119 --> 01:13:12.479
snarky, just bitchy album at times. And I fucking

01:13:12.479 --> 01:13:14.560
love it. Excuse my language. I went through this

01:13:14.560 --> 01:13:16.500
entire episode until now, until saying the F

01:13:16.500 --> 01:13:19.539
word. So I'm proud of myself. But yeah, my pick

01:13:19.539 --> 01:13:22.859
is Houdini from Dua Lipa off of Radical Optimism.

01:13:23.920 --> 01:13:26.039
I am so happy you picked that Eminem track, not

01:13:26.039 --> 01:13:28.300
only because it's a great track, but because

01:13:28.300 --> 01:13:31.300
it allowed me to do that. Well, do you want a

01:13:31.300 --> 01:13:34.739
funny story? On my 2024 playlist, Houdini and

01:13:34.739 --> 01:13:37.819
Houdini were back to back. Really? It was Eminem

01:13:37.819 --> 01:13:40.640
followed by Dua Lipa. And this might be a total

01:13:40.640 --> 01:13:43.640
dad joke and people might unsubscribe as I say

01:13:43.640 --> 01:13:45.920
it, but I feel like the two of them should have

01:13:45.920 --> 01:13:48.319
put the songs together and did an Abra Calabra

01:13:48.319 --> 01:13:53.210
remix of the two songs. I love it. It reached

01:13:53.210 --> 01:13:56.189
number 11 on the US Billboard Hot 100, number

01:13:56.189 --> 01:13:59.529
five on the Canada Hot 100, number three on the

01:13:59.529 --> 01:14:02.949
Global 200, number seven on the Australia ARIA

01:14:02.949 --> 01:14:06.630
charts, number two on the UK singles chart, and

01:14:06.630 --> 01:14:09.890
was a top 10 hit in Ireland, Germany, Switzerland,

01:14:09.970 --> 01:14:13.170
and France, among others. And like Teddy Swim's

01:14:13.170 --> 01:14:15.609
Goodbye Has Been Good To You, the single was

01:14:15.609 --> 01:14:18.750
released late in 2023 after you and I recorded.

01:14:19.579 --> 01:14:23.100
The song's a 2023 episode, but it really took

01:14:23.100 --> 01:14:26.739
hold in 2024 and it became one of the summer

01:14:26.739 --> 01:14:30.659
jams of 2024. I feel like the song almost had

01:14:30.659 --> 01:14:34.100
a resurgence when the warmer weather hit. And

01:14:34.100 --> 01:14:37.140
I'll just say it. It's my favorite Dua Lipa song

01:14:37.140 --> 01:14:41.619
ever. I love this song so much. I'm so glad you

01:14:41.619 --> 01:14:44.819
picked it because I didn't quite know where I

01:14:44.819 --> 01:14:47.100
was going to close with. And I was hoping that

01:14:47.100 --> 01:14:49.539
this song got talked about and you chose her

01:14:49.539 --> 01:14:52.779
last year. So thank you for granting that. Anytime,

01:14:52.899 --> 01:14:56.060
man. And to close it up, at least in terms to

01:14:56.060 --> 01:14:57.920
the songs I'm picking for this evening, because

01:14:57.920 --> 01:15:00.760
this is my last song choice. I'm going to go

01:15:00.760 --> 01:15:04.199
with another pop song, but it's not the pop song

01:15:04.199 --> 01:15:06.899
you're thinking. It's not a pop like Dua Lipa.

01:15:07.340 --> 01:15:10.439
It doesn't have pop elements like Eminem. And

01:15:10.439 --> 01:15:14.199
it's definitely going to be a break screeching

01:15:14.199 --> 01:15:17.500
halt. coming out of these two dancier tracks.

01:15:18.359 --> 01:15:22.020
But when I've waited since 1993's The River of

01:15:22.020 --> 01:15:24.979
Dreams to get a brand new Billy Joel pop song,

01:15:25.180 --> 01:15:28.840
and you get it with Turn the Lights Back On,

01:15:29.020 --> 01:15:31.380
there is no way it's not going to be my last

01:15:31.380 --> 01:15:35.420
pick of the evening. Is the song a romantic ballad?

01:15:35.500 --> 01:15:38.319
Is it a metaphor for how long Billy Joel fans

01:15:38.319 --> 01:15:40.300
have been waiting to get new music from him?

01:15:40.739 --> 01:15:42.840
That's up to you to decide. For me, it could

01:15:42.840 --> 01:15:46.170
be either or. The song reached number 62 on the

01:15:46.170 --> 01:15:48.550
Billboard US Hot 100, the first time he'd made

01:15:48.550 --> 01:15:51.270
that chart since his cover of To Make You Feel

01:15:51.270 --> 01:15:55.029
My Love back in 1997. It also hit number four

01:15:55.029 --> 01:15:58.170
on the UK singles chart and number seven on the

01:15:58.170 --> 01:16:02.210
Japan Hot Overseas chart and hit number one in

01:16:02.210 --> 01:16:06.109
Israel. Considering Billy Joel's age and the

01:16:06.109 --> 01:16:09.149
fact that the US Billboard Hot 100 is predominantly

01:16:09.149 --> 01:16:13.279
dominated by newer artists. I'm not entirely

01:16:13.279 --> 01:16:16.560
shocked that this wasn't a top 40 hit, but I

01:16:16.560 --> 01:16:20.039
also kind of am because this song is ridiculously

01:16:20.039 --> 01:16:23.539
powerful. And as someone who is been a Billy

01:16:23.539 --> 01:16:26.260
Joel fan for my entire life, anyone who listened

01:16:26.260 --> 01:16:29.840
to episode 15, the ultimate Billy Joel playlist

01:16:29.840 --> 01:16:32.859
with longtime Billy Joel band member, Liberty

01:16:32.859 --> 01:16:37.289
DeVito knows my fandom. There was no way like

01:16:37.289 --> 01:16:39.949
last year closing the way you and I brought the

01:16:39.949 --> 01:16:42.130
Beatles and the Rolling Stones into the mix.

01:16:42.430 --> 01:16:45.050
Yeah. I honestly thought this song would have

01:16:45.050 --> 01:16:47.689
had a bigger chart impact, but regardless of

01:16:47.689 --> 01:16:50.569
where it sat in the charts, I think Billy Joel

01:16:50.569 --> 01:16:53.109
fans were more than happy enough to make up for

01:16:53.109 --> 01:16:56.149
it with the love it brought them for him to finally,

01:16:56.149 --> 01:16:58.449
quote unquote, turn the lights back on with some

01:16:58.449 --> 01:17:02.229
new music. I hope it's not the last ever Billy

01:17:02.229 --> 01:17:06.710
Joel pop song, but if it is. It's very, very

01:17:06.710 --> 01:17:11.250
powerful. Yeah. I love the track and I love Billy

01:17:11.250 --> 01:17:14.130
Joel. I always have too. And the whole, you know,

01:17:14.170 --> 01:17:16.470
I'm late, but I'm here right now is just so fitting.

01:17:16.569 --> 01:17:18.590
Like you said, is it a love ballad about, you

01:17:18.590 --> 01:17:20.869
know, not showing up when you need to, but eventually

01:17:20.869 --> 01:17:22.510
showing up and being the man that somebody needs

01:17:22.510 --> 01:17:24.949
you to be? Or is it about making his fan base

01:17:24.949 --> 01:17:26.989
wait for so long for new music? It could be both.

01:17:27.029 --> 01:17:29.640
And it probably is both. And I mean, this wasn't

01:17:29.640 --> 01:17:31.560
like a bombastic release, like, you know, the

01:17:31.560 --> 01:17:33.340
resurgence of the Rolling Stones with a new album

01:17:33.340 --> 01:17:35.100
and their tour where they wanted to be the center

01:17:35.100 --> 01:17:37.319
of attention. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm missing

01:17:37.319 --> 01:17:39.659
the mark. But the release of this track and his

01:17:39.659 --> 01:17:42.579
new music felt more personal. It felt like it

01:17:42.579 --> 01:17:46.680
was more for the fans than him trying to topple

01:17:46.680 --> 01:17:48.899
the world all over again and go on tour and play

01:17:48.899 --> 01:17:50.699
arenas and stuff like that, which I think is

01:17:50.699 --> 01:17:53.140
really sweet and nice. But it's a wonderful track.

01:17:53.279 --> 01:17:55.699
I really love it. It's beautiful. That man's

01:17:55.699 --> 01:17:58.409
voice is timeless. He said he's getting up there

01:17:58.409 --> 01:18:01.510
in age and he still sounds wonderful. And he

01:18:01.510 --> 01:18:03.569
can still hit those notes. And there's just a

01:18:03.569 --> 01:18:05.329
timeless quality about both him and his music.

01:18:05.649 --> 01:18:07.649
And he's never been somebody who's been like,

01:18:07.729 --> 01:18:09.729
oh, he sounds like he's from the 80s or he sounds

01:18:09.729 --> 01:18:11.810
like he's from the 70s. He just sounds like he's

01:18:11.810 --> 01:18:15.329
from every time. There's just a wild timelessness

01:18:15.329 --> 01:18:18.329
and universal appeal of his music where it's

01:18:18.329 --> 01:18:19.890
just Billy Joel. You know what I mean? It's not

01:18:19.890 --> 01:18:22.409
like 90s Billy Joel. There's no 70s Billy Joel.

01:18:22.529 --> 01:18:23.989
It's just Billy Joel. And that's something I've

01:18:23.989 --> 01:18:25.909
always loved and appreciated about all of his

01:18:25.909 --> 01:18:28.430
music. So, and I love that you kind of brought

01:18:28.430 --> 01:18:29.970
it full circle from last year where we kind of

01:18:29.970 --> 01:18:31.430
closed out with the Beatles and the Rolling Stones

01:18:31.430 --> 01:18:33.569
and now it's Billy Joel. And it's wonderful to

01:18:33.569 --> 01:18:35.770
see these older artists that I loved as a kid

01:18:35.770 --> 01:18:37.569
that my parents loved when they were kids come

01:18:37.569 --> 01:18:40.710
back, not miss a beat, still crank out incredible,

01:18:40.970 --> 01:18:44.210
moving, beautiful music like no time has passed.

01:18:44.369 --> 01:18:48.470
It's great. Well, we have had a roller coaster

01:18:48.470 --> 01:18:52.189
of a 2024 playlist, DT, and you get to take us

01:18:52.189 --> 01:18:56.289
home with the final song of the night. Everything

01:18:56.289 --> 01:18:59.630
from Chapel Roan to Blood Incantation and back

01:18:59.630 --> 01:19:02.909
again. How do we close out the ultimate 2024

01:19:02.909 --> 01:19:05.789
playlist? I mean, at this point, you could choose

01:19:05.789 --> 01:19:09.310
any artist, any genre, smooth jazz. I don't care

01:19:09.310 --> 01:19:11.789
what it is. I have a feeling it's going to work.

01:19:12.430 --> 01:19:14.510
We're all just going to take a moment to reflect.

01:19:16.100 --> 01:19:18.279
I'm going to go weird again, and I don't have

01:19:18.279 --> 01:19:20.680
any way of really tying into Billy Joel. Yeah,

01:19:20.699 --> 01:19:22.659
that was a tough one. I'm sorry about that. No,

01:19:22.680 --> 01:19:24.479
not at all. Just aside from the fact that I feel

01:19:24.479 --> 01:19:26.539
like this next artist is going to be one of those

01:19:26.539 --> 01:19:28.520
people that's going to be timeless, because he

01:19:28.520 --> 01:19:30.439
has such a knack for reinventing himself and

01:19:30.439 --> 01:19:32.140
his style over the years. And every time he does

01:19:32.140 --> 01:19:35.920
it, it just feels natural and awesome and just

01:19:35.920 --> 01:19:38.859
great. And it's Childish Gambino, Donald Glover,

01:19:38.960 --> 01:19:42.380
because he had an incredible 2024. It's Lithonia

01:19:42.380 --> 01:19:46.170
off of Bando Stone in the New World. Like I said,

01:19:46.250 --> 01:19:49.130
this man has just reinvented himself and his

01:19:49.130 --> 01:19:51.010
career so many times over. He went from being

01:19:51.010 --> 01:19:55.170
an internet video sketch comedy actor to a sitcom

01:19:55.170 --> 01:19:59.609
actor to a stand -up comedian to a rapper to

01:19:59.609 --> 01:20:02.270
an alternative and experimental rapper to an

01:20:02.270 --> 01:20:04.770
R &B singer. And now with this track, Luthonia,

01:20:04.850 --> 01:20:07.050
he's dabbling in rock and roll. And it's like,

01:20:07.130 --> 01:20:10.630
I never knew I needed an alternative hard rock

01:20:10.630 --> 01:20:13.550
Childish Gambino song until I heard it. And it's

01:20:13.550 --> 01:20:15.670
like, why hasn't he done a whole album of this?

01:20:15.710 --> 01:20:18.229
It's incredible. And on top of this, the music

01:20:18.229 --> 01:20:20.310
that he wrote, this song included, which was

01:20:20.310 --> 01:20:23.250
the single off the album, is also doubling as

01:20:23.250 --> 01:20:26.729
the score for a film he directed this year. The

01:20:26.729 --> 01:20:29.550
man just does it all. It's insane. But Lithonia

01:20:29.550 --> 01:20:33.170
is this really cool, heavy rock song coming from

01:20:33.170 --> 01:20:35.909
a well -known and established rapper and R &B

01:20:35.909 --> 01:20:39.229
artist. And it's pretty dark and affecting, but

01:20:39.229 --> 01:20:41.989
Glover himself says that it's... actually positive

01:20:41.989 --> 01:20:44.329
and insists that it's uplifting. But when you

01:20:44.329 --> 01:20:47.449
listen to the song, it's very sort of melancholy,

01:20:47.529 --> 01:20:49.630
but it's also got a hopefulness to it, which

01:20:49.630 --> 01:20:52.289
I really like. But the man is just exercising

01:20:52.289 --> 01:20:54.550
his range with all these different vocal styles

01:20:54.550 --> 01:20:57.329
in this track by itself, along with some heavy

01:20:57.329 --> 01:21:00.890
guitar and synth, and it just kicks ass. And

01:21:00.890 --> 01:21:03.430
like I said, I would take an entire album of

01:21:03.430 --> 01:21:06.310
just Childish Gambino doing alternative rock

01:21:06.310 --> 01:21:09.500
because it just somehow makes sense. He's become

01:21:09.500 --> 01:21:11.899
a massive icon. And I don't think you can do

01:21:11.899 --> 01:21:15.680
a 2024 list of best songs or iconic songs without

01:21:15.680 --> 01:21:18.359
including him in some fashion. And honestly,

01:21:18.520 --> 01:21:21.859
what better way to end a 2024 playlist with something

01:21:21.859 --> 01:21:25.819
that's on the surface appears deeply pessimistic,

01:21:25.819 --> 01:21:29.100
but it's actually really hopeful and has a whole

01:21:29.100 --> 01:21:31.420
lot of really optimistic undertones and messages

01:21:31.420 --> 01:21:33.579
for the future. That sounded really pretentious,

01:21:33.619 --> 01:21:35.920
but I'm sticking with it. No, not at all, man.

01:21:35.979 --> 01:21:37.640
I'm going to challenge one thing, though. You

01:21:37.640 --> 01:21:39.899
said that it's weird coming out of Billy Joel,

01:21:40.020 --> 01:21:41.979
and I actually think I found a connection here

01:21:41.979 --> 01:21:45.920
because Lithonia reached number 69 on the Billboard

01:21:45.920 --> 01:21:49.699
US Hot 100, number 85 on the Canada Hot 100,

01:21:50.000 --> 01:21:52.960
number 88 on the UK Singles Chart, and number

01:21:52.960 --> 01:21:56.699
14 on the New Zealand Hot Singles Chart. Yes,

01:21:56.800 --> 01:22:00.010
it's got a rock -leaning vibe to it. So you could

01:22:00.010 --> 01:22:02.550
conceivably say it's a quote unquote rock song,

01:22:02.609 --> 01:22:04.529
but that's not where I'm going coming out of

01:22:04.529 --> 01:22:06.970
Billy Joel. But I'm going to come from a standpoint

01:22:06.970 --> 01:22:12.909
that we closed out a 2024 playlist with two underrated

01:22:12.909 --> 01:22:16.390
tracks that probably should have gotten more

01:22:16.390 --> 01:22:21.130
love on the charts than they did. Instead of

01:22:21.130 --> 01:22:24.149
closing with the songs that did blow up the tracks

01:22:24.149 --> 01:22:27.399
like the Kendrick and the Chapel Roan. We went

01:22:27.399 --> 01:22:31.140
with some underrated songs that maybe people

01:22:31.140 --> 01:22:33.680
missed this year and kind of gives people something

01:22:33.680 --> 01:22:36.659
to reflect on and marinate on when they listen

01:22:36.659 --> 01:22:39.220
to this playlist all the way through. So I'll

01:22:39.220 --> 01:22:42.600
be very curious to see where the mixtapers stand

01:22:42.600 --> 01:22:45.600
with these song choices tonight. Yeah, man, absolutely.

01:22:45.859 --> 01:22:48.399
I'm looking forward to discussion. Aside from

01:22:48.399 --> 01:22:50.460
being on these episodes and just hanging out

01:22:50.460 --> 01:22:51.939
with you and talking music, one of my favorite

01:22:51.939 --> 01:22:54.039
things is seeing the discussion that comes about

01:22:54.039 --> 01:22:56.359
from these episodes we do, which is super cool.

01:22:56.479 --> 01:22:58.739
The community you have built around this podcast

01:22:58.739 --> 01:23:01.739
is phenomenal. It's wonderful, dude. I am so

01:23:01.739 --> 01:23:04.079
grateful for each and every person that chooses

01:23:04.079 --> 01:23:07.380
to be a part of it because I just love talking

01:23:07.380 --> 01:23:10.279
music. And I love the fact that there's other

01:23:10.279 --> 01:23:13.399
people out there like me that just want to talk

01:23:13.399 --> 01:23:16.079
about music and celebrate the songs that we love.

01:23:16.760 --> 01:23:18.600
And that's the thing. It comes through in every

01:23:18.600 --> 01:23:20.300
episode you do. And that's why people gravitate

01:23:20.300 --> 01:23:22.640
towards you, including all the big stars you've

01:23:22.640 --> 01:23:25.000
had on this show. Like, holy crap, man. I still

01:23:25.000 --> 01:23:26.579
feel like small potatoes compared to some of

01:23:26.579 --> 01:23:27.819
the people that have been on the show just this

01:23:27.819 --> 01:23:31.340
year. It's been insane. But you have this genuineness

01:23:31.340 --> 01:23:32.939
about you that comes through in every episode

01:23:32.939 --> 01:23:35.279
you do and this genuine love for music and wanting

01:23:35.279 --> 01:23:37.939
to share music and appreciate music. And it draws

01:23:37.939 --> 01:23:40.319
people in. And I'm one of those people, obviously.

01:23:40.840 --> 01:23:42.779
It's an honor to be here and to do another one

01:23:42.779 --> 01:23:46.579
of these last of the year sort of... recap episodes

01:23:46.579 --> 01:23:48.319
and talk about the best music of the year and

01:23:48.319 --> 01:23:50.380
it's just my genuine honor to just hang out with

01:23:50.380 --> 01:23:53.119
you for an hour and change and just talk bs and

01:23:53.119 --> 01:23:55.239
talk about music oh dude the feeling's absolutely

01:23:55.239 --> 01:23:58.180
mutual thank you so much for those kind words

01:23:58.180 --> 01:24:00.420
it got me all like choked up here especially

01:24:00.420 --> 01:24:03.520
given the year i've had here but before we get

01:24:03.520 --> 01:24:06.800
to that let me clear my throat here and uh someone

01:24:06.800 --> 01:24:09.199
who's ever chopping onions get the hell out of

01:24:09.199 --> 01:24:12.399
the room because that mixtapers concludes side

01:24:12.399 --> 01:24:15.760
b of the ultimate 2024 mixtape which consists

01:24:15.760 --> 01:24:19.739
of state champs silver clouds spiritual cramp

01:24:19.739 --> 01:24:21.880
featuring white reaper whatever you say Amen,

01:24:22.180 --> 01:24:25.880
Some 41's Landmines, Blood Incantations, The

01:24:25.880 --> 01:24:29.960
Stargate, Tablet One, Lamb of God featuring Mastodon's

01:24:29.960 --> 01:24:33.140
Floods of Triton, Kendrick Lamar's Not Like Us,

01:24:33.560 --> 01:24:37.899
Eminem's Houdini, Dua Lipa's Houdini, Billy Joel's

01:24:37.899 --> 01:24:41.039
Turn the Lights Back On, and Childish Gambino's

01:24:41.039 --> 01:24:44.659
Lithonia. Head over to myweeklymixtape .com to

01:24:44.659 --> 01:24:46.960
hear all the songs we've discussed in this mix

01:24:46.960 --> 01:24:50.180
through the playlist embedded on the episode

01:24:50.180 --> 01:24:53.720
page. Now, DT, we've talked about all of our

01:24:53.720 --> 01:24:57.039
top songs for 2024, but there's one question

01:24:57.039 --> 01:25:01.739
that remains. What's your 2024 album of the year

01:25:01.739 --> 01:25:06.460
and why? Oh, geez. Oh, can I have more than one?

01:25:06.600 --> 01:25:08.920
Because I feel like the reason I picked all these

01:25:08.920 --> 01:25:10.859
tracks are because they're all off of my favorite

01:25:10.859 --> 01:25:15.939
albums of the year. To pick just one? I mean,

01:25:15.960 --> 01:25:17.920
I want to say Jack White's No Name just because

01:25:17.920 --> 01:25:21.020
of the weird and strange circumstances with which

01:25:21.020 --> 01:25:22.859
he released it. And the fact that he's one of

01:25:22.859 --> 01:25:26.060
my favorite musicians of all time. And he kind

01:25:26.060 --> 01:25:28.439
of, like I said, did this really weird but beautiful

01:25:28.439 --> 01:25:31.819
and awesome and kick -ass return to form. But

01:25:31.819 --> 01:25:34.060
I also love the fact that Vows from Hot Water

01:25:34.060 --> 01:25:36.159
Music is their 10th album. It's their 30th anniversary

01:25:36.159 --> 01:25:38.659
as a band. And you can tell that all the songs

01:25:38.659 --> 01:25:40.539
on that album were so incredibly meaningful to

01:25:40.539 --> 01:25:44.100
them. And also JPEG Mafia putting out I Lay Down

01:25:44.100 --> 01:25:46.800
My Life because it's so fucking weird and wonderful.

01:25:47.100 --> 01:25:50.039
And the man just does not stop. But oh, man,

01:25:50.119 --> 01:25:51.800
I'm just going to rip the bandit off and say

01:25:51.800 --> 01:25:53.500
that it's probably Jack White's no name just

01:25:53.500 --> 01:25:57.500
because it was such a wonderful surprise in kind

01:25:57.500 --> 01:26:00.039
of a period of the year where I needed kind of

01:26:00.039 --> 01:26:03.279
a nice surprise. I obviously did go through a

01:26:03.279 --> 01:26:06.659
heart surgery or anything quite as crazy or harrowing.

01:26:07.279 --> 01:26:09.640
But, you know, it's 2024, I think, for a lot

01:26:09.640 --> 01:26:12.380
of people has been a weird year. And Jack White

01:26:12.380 --> 01:26:13.939
just being like, here's my gift to the world.

01:26:13.979 --> 01:26:15.859
I just got in my garage and hang out with a bunch

01:26:15.859 --> 01:26:18.239
of friends and wrote some stupid music that turned

01:26:18.239 --> 01:26:19.640
out really, really great. And you can all have

01:26:19.640 --> 01:26:22.800
it for free was just such a really cool punk

01:26:22.800 --> 01:26:25.680
rock Jack White thing to do. So I'm going to

01:26:25.680 --> 01:26:28.220
give it to that just for those reasons. All right.

01:26:28.279 --> 01:26:30.840
And I'm going to agree with you on Hot Water

01:26:30.840 --> 01:26:34.189
Music's vows. It's definitely. in my top two

01:26:34.189 --> 01:26:36.729
of the year, but believe it or not, my number

01:26:36.729 --> 01:26:40.069
one album of the year has not been talked about

01:26:40.069 --> 01:26:43.449
tonight. Oh, quite frankly, because I couldn't

01:26:43.449 --> 01:26:47.449
find a fucking place to include a fish song in

01:26:47.449 --> 01:26:50.810
this weird mix. Pardon my language. I actually,

01:26:50.829 --> 01:26:56.569
I actually was thinking about coming. out of

01:26:56.569 --> 01:27:00.649
blood incantations the stargate with fish's oblivion

01:27:00.649 --> 01:27:04.810
from their 2024 album evolved but that is a funk

01:27:04.810 --> 01:27:09.170
dance fish jam band tune but i was thinking of

01:27:09.170 --> 01:27:13.170
the jam band connection but as soon as i thought

01:27:13.170 --> 01:27:17.369
about the stargate tablet one I immediately heard

01:27:17.369 --> 01:27:19.729
Floods of Triton following it up. So I never

01:27:19.729 --> 01:27:23.409
found the place to include Phish. But as an album,

01:27:23.649 --> 01:27:27.069
Phish made such a statement with Evolve. It's

01:27:27.069 --> 01:27:29.229
my favorite album from there since Farmhouse.

01:27:29.529 --> 01:27:32.189
And I know I just pissed off a lot of Phish fans

01:27:32.189 --> 01:27:34.149
because Farmhouse isn't always their favorite

01:27:34.149 --> 01:27:36.409
album. Oh, they're always looking for reasons

01:27:36.409 --> 01:27:39.189
to be pissed anyway. I know, but it's the album

01:27:39.189 --> 01:27:41.310
that my wife and I bonded over when we first

01:27:41.310 --> 01:27:43.409
met. So to me, it always holds a special place

01:27:43.409 --> 01:27:45.689
in my heart. And this year with everything. I

01:27:45.689 --> 01:27:47.930
was going through, we listened to this album

01:27:47.930 --> 01:27:51.649
a lot and we bonded over this album. So yes,

01:27:51.710 --> 01:27:55.029
it didn't make my top 20 songs, but that's not

01:27:55.029 --> 01:27:58.210
for a lack of love. Fishes Evolve gets my album

01:27:58.210 --> 01:28:01.710
of the year. Along that same vein, I'm going

01:28:01.710 --> 01:28:03.909
to throw out Chromacopia by Tyler, the creator.

01:28:04.569 --> 01:28:06.970
That was one that I considered, but the album

01:28:06.970 --> 01:28:09.130
is such an experience in and of itself that it

01:28:09.130 --> 01:28:11.930
was hard to pick out one track to isolate and

01:28:11.930 --> 01:28:14.760
talk about. Because that's not an album I'm ever

01:28:14.760 --> 01:28:16.500
going to be able to pick songs out of and just

01:28:16.500 --> 01:28:17.880
put them in a playlist. It's going to be a playlist

01:28:17.880 --> 01:28:20.640
unto itself. It's such a personal album for him

01:28:20.640 --> 01:28:22.359
and such an introspective album. And he's telling

01:28:22.359 --> 01:28:24.819
such a story with it that it almost becomes sort

01:28:24.819 --> 01:28:26.899
of a concept album. And obviously the way he's

01:28:26.899 --> 01:28:29.239
been marketing it is the same way too. But to

01:28:29.239 --> 01:28:31.119
try and pick out one singular song out of that

01:28:31.119 --> 01:28:33.479
album was just impossible. But Chromacopia by

01:28:33.479 --> 01:28:35.760
Tyler, the Creator is easily one of the best

01:28:35.760 --> 01:28:39.170
albums of the year too. Well, 2024 obviously

01:28:39.170 --> 01:28:42.310
has been an amazing year in music, and it's also

01:28:42.310 --> 01:28:46.090
been an amazing year over at Space Castle. Why

01:28:46.090 --> 01:28:48.689
don't you remind everybody what's been going

01:28:48.689 --> 01:28:51.430
on over by you and where they can find your YouTube

01:28:51.430 --> 01:28:53.489
show? Obviously on YouTube, I shouldn't do that.

01:28:54.409 --> 01:28:57.550
No worries, man. Yeah, youtube .com forward slash

01:28:57.550 --> 01:29:00.590
at Space Castle show. Shout out to YouTube for

01:29:00.590 --> 01:29:04.380
making those URLs as confusing as possible. You

01:29:04.380 --> 01:29:05.859
can find me pretty easily on most of the social

01:29:05.859 --> 01:29:08.380
media platforms, or you can just check out SpaceCastle

01:29:08.380 --> 01:29:11.979
.net, which has links to all that stuff. So I

01:29:11.979 --> 01:29:15.340
am doing all kinds of zany nerd essay videos

01:29:15.340 --> 01:29:18.319
with crazy backstories and side stories where

01:29:18.319 --> 01:29:20.640
it's me floating through space, exploring all

01:29:20.640 --> 01:29:23.699
things nerdy in the universe. And I'm also playing

01:29:23.699 --> 01:29:26.600
video games. Uh, I'm also like going back and

01:29:26.600 --> 01:29:28.600
doing retrospective videos about like my childhood

01:29:28.600 --> 01:29:31.039
and like growing up and how pop culture kind

01:29:31.039 --> 01:29:33.279
of shaped my growing up and stuff. So it's a

01:29:33.279 --> 01:29:34.659
lot of fun. And if anybody wants to come and

01:29:34.659 --> 01:29:36.979
hang out with me and check out a video, I'd love

01:29:36.979 --> 01:29:39.140
to have you. And I want to thank you for the

01:29:39.140 --> 01:29:42.560
sticker that you have on the space castle set

01:29:42.560 --> 01:29:45.560
of my weekly mixtape, dude. Oh, you know, I stuck

01:29:45.560 --> 01:29:47.579
that on the, on the window of the bridge of the

01:29:47.579 --> 01:29:50.340
space castle there. No worries, man. Yeah. This

01:29:50.340 --> 01:29:53.000
makes my weekly mixtape intergalactic in nature.

01:29:53.079 --> 01:29:55.489
So for that, I thank you, dude. I'm spreading

01:29:55.489 --> 01:29:57.569
the good word throughout the universe. Absolutely.

01:29:58.390 --> 01:30:01.529
But more importantly, thank you so much for joining

01:30:01.529 --> 01:30:05.510
me on our 2024 recap. I'm already looking forward

01:30:05.510 --> 01:30:08.949
to what we're going to bring to the 2025 discussion

01:30:08.949 --> 01:30:12.449
12 months from now. Yeah, man, me too. I can't

01:30:12.449 --> 01:30:13.909
wait. Like I said, I look forward to this every

01:30:13.909 --> 01:30:16.529
year now. Thank you for making me be the annual

01:30:16.529 --> 01:30:19.779
recap guy. This is a blast. Well, I also like

01:30:19.779 --> 01:30:23.140
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