WEBVTT 00:00:10.820 --> 00:00:13.619 Welcome to My Weekly Mixtape, a podcast that 00:00:13.619 --> 00:00:16.460 takes the classic mixtape approach to building 00:00:16.460 --> 00:00:19.000 a modern playlist. I'm your host, Brian Colburn. 00:00:19.140 --> 00:00:21.699 Tonight, I'm excited to welcome Cody Hanson of 00:00:21.699 --> 00:00:23.960 Hinder to the program. Now, for those of you 00:00:23.960 --> 00:00:25.839 that listened to me back in the TuneStyles days, 00:00:25.920 --> 00:00:28.640 I had the pleasure of speaking with Cody, along 00:00:28.640 --> 00:00:32.100 with Marshall Dutton and Blower. Feels like many 00:00:32.100 --> 00:00:35.359 moons ago, 2019. It's probably ages ago. But 00:00:35.359 --> 00:00:38.020 I'm super excited to have that opportunity once 00:00:38.020 --> 00:00:40.909 again tonight. On My Weekly Mixtape. Cody, it's 00:00:40.909 --> 00:00:42.969 great to see you again, man. Hey, man. Good to 00:00:42.969 --> 00:00:44.770 see you as well. Sorry you only have just me 00:00:44.770 --> 00:00:48.170 tonight. Well, we're going to make the most of 00:00:48.170 --> 00:00:51.710 it. But since this is your first time on My Weekly 00:00:51.710 --> 00:00:54.729 Mixtape, I'd like to start by asking you my first 00:00:54.729 --> 00:00:57.469 time guest question. And that is, what does the 00:00:57.469 --> 00:01:02.119 word mixtape mean to you? Ooh. Man, what a question 00:01:02.119 --> 00:01:04.700 right off the bat. Oh, I don't mess around. I 00:01:04.700 --> 00:01:06.299 mean, I don't know. I guess there's several different 00:01:06.299 --> 00:01:08.159 ways you could take this. I mean, obviously, 00:01:08.260 --> 00:01:11.239 I remember back in the day in middle school when 00:01:11.239 --> 00:01:13.299 you would, you know, you were trying to trying 00:01:13.299 --> 00:01:15.819 to get the girl, right? You'd make her the mixtape. 00:01:15.819 --> 00:01:18.340 You know what I mean? Now you just go to Pandora, 00:01:18.379 --> 00:01:22.099 right? Or, you know, Apple Music and just put 00:01:22.099 --> 00:01:24.439 on a playlist or whatever. But yeah, I mean, 00:01:24.480 --> 00:01:27.299 I guess it would just be. a collection of your 00:01:27.299 --> 00:01:30.299 favorite songs for whatever you want that mood 00:01:30.299 --> 00:01:33.299 or that vibe to be. Well, we've got a lot to 00:01:33.299 --> 00:01:34.620 talk about tonight because we're going to be 00:01:34.620 --> 00:01:37.980 diving into the 20th anniversary of Hinder's 00:01:37.980 --> 00:01:41.219 debut, Extreme Behavior, as well as the band's 00:01:41.219 --> 00:01:44.760 brand new album, Back to Life, which is the first 00:01:44.760 --> 00:01:48.739 since 2017's The Rain. And I'd like to start 00:01:48.739 --> 00:01:51.840 by talking about that because over the last two 00:01:51.840 --> 00:01:56.319 decades, Hinder's sound has evolved. So I'd love 00:01:56.319 --> 00:01:59.180 for you to talk about the evolution of the band's 00:01:59.180 --> 00:02:02.359 music over the last two decades. Yeah, I mean, 00:02:02.359 --> 00:02:05.900 you know, obviously with Marshall taking over 00:02:05.900 --> 00:02:09.300 at the lead singer position, I mean, you know, 00:02:09.319 --> 00:02:12.199 obviously that in and of itself just changes 00:02:12.199 --> 00:02:15.099 everything. But, you know, the fact that we kind 00:02:15.099 --> 00:02:18.879 of just do everything on our own in -house now, 00:02:18.979 --> 00:02:21.280 we've been doing it for so long, writing and 00:02:21.280 --> 00:02:24.620 producing together. You know, obviously, as you 00:02:24.620 --> 00:02:27.840 as you grow up, you know, you you mature and 00:02:27.840 --> 00:02:31.120 grow as a writer and as a producer and as an 00:02:31.120 --> 00:02:33.780 as an engineer. You know what I mean? So, yeah, 00:02:33.879 --> 00:02:36.039 I mean, things just kind of have to evolve and 00:02:36.039 --> 00:02:39.379 change. And, you know, we we don't fight it. 00:02:39.460 --> 00:02:42.120 You know, like a lot of bands, especially bands 00:02:42.120 --> 00:02:43.900 that came out around our time, they're still 00:02:43.900 --> 00:02:47.439 trying to recreate that first thing that made 00:02:47.439 --> 00:02:50.409 them popular. And, you know, I kind of think 00:02:50.409 --> 00:02:52.490 we're taking the opposite approach. We're writing 00:02:52.490 --> 00:02:54.969 the songs that we want to write and we're producing 00:02:54.969 --> 00:02:57.590 those songs for those songs, what they're supposed 00:02:57.590 --> 00:03:01.030 to be. We're not trying to do what we think everybody 00:03:01.030 --> 00:03:03.930 else wants us to do or be what everybody else 00:03:03.930 --> 00:03:06.729 wants us to be, if that makes sense. Makes 100 00:03:06.729 --> 00:03:09.090 % sense. And the thing I've always liked about 00:03:09.090 --> 00:03:12.289 Hinder is the fact that as a band, you've always 00:03:12.289 --> 00:03:15.860 worn many musical hats. And considering my tastes 00:03:15.860 --> 00:03:18.719 are all over the map, that plays into why I love 00:03:18.719 --> 00:03:22.840 this band. You get hard rock. You get power ballads. 00:03:22.840 --> 00:03:25.919 You get the acoustic moments. And you also get 00:03:25.919 --> 00:03:29.419 those pop sensibilities. So between the four 00:03:29.419 --> 00:03:33.080 of you, where do the branches of Hinder's sound 00:03:33.080 --> 00:03:38.259 derive from? Oh, that's, I mean, yeah. I think 00:03:38.259 --> 00:03:40.740 we're just, we all like so many different styles 00:03:40.740 --> 00:03:45.139 of music. You know, I grew up. listening to country 00:03:45.139 --> 00:03:48.139 and i grew up listening to gangster rap and uh 00:03:48.139 --> 00:03:51.719 i grew up listening to you know jimi hendrix 00:03:51.719 --> 00:03:54.879 and buddy holly and bad company and then i got 00:03:54.879 --> 00:03:58.719 into metallica and pantera and i mean it's you 00:03:58.719 --> 00:04:01.580 name it and i was into it you know i just and 00:04:01.580 --> 00:04:04.840 i know marshall's the exact same way so you know 00:04:04.840 --> 00:04:07.060 when when we get in the studio and sit down to 00:04:07.060 --> 00:04:10.080 write we just we just kind of let it all come 00:04:10.080 --> 00:04:12.340 out, you know, and sometimes you'll have an idea 00:04:12.340 --> 00:04:14.479 and you'll think back, oh, do you remember this 00:04:14.479 --> 00:04:16.800 song from the 90s? Or do you remember this song 00:04:16.800 --> 00:04:20.399 from, you know, just back in the day? And, you 00:04:20.399 --> 00:04:22.439 know, we'll try to pull inspiration from all 00:04:22.439 --> 00:04:25.939 these different genres and styles of music. And 00:04:25.939 --> 00:04:27.600 I think it's a good way to keep things interesting. 00:04:27.819 --> 00:04:30.540 It certainly is. Now, the last time you and I 00:04:30.540 --> 00:04:32.720 talked, which was, like I said, back in 2019, 00:04:32.920 --> 00:04:36.379 feels like decades ago, the band was working 00:04:36.379 --> 00:04:39.990 at the time on a new album. which if I recall, 00:04:40.149 --> 00:04:43.470 you had said was reminiscent of the Extreme Behavior 00:04:43.470 --> 00:04:46.970 sound. But as time has gone on, you ended up 00:04:46.970 --> 00:04:50.930 shelving that album entirely. Can you talk about 00:04:50.930 --> 00:04:54.350 that experience? And even if it's not directly, 00:04:54.490 --> 00:04:58.949 what led the band towards this new album? Yeah, 00:04:58.970 --> 00:05:02.029 I mean, as you said, we were intentionally trying 00:05:02.029 --> 00:05:04.689 to make a record because we knew the 20 -year 00:05:04.689 --> 00:05:06.910 anniversary was coming up. And so we thought, 00:05:07.449 --> 00:05:10.170 That might be a cool moment to make a record 00:05:10.170 --> 00:05:12.949 that people are looking for, that we're fans 00:05:12.949 --> 00:05:16.750 of the first album. Once we really got into it 00:05:16.750 --> 00:05:21.910 and we had it all done, mixed, going into mastering, 00:05:22.110 --> 00:05:25.410 and we just decided, you know what? This doesn't 00:05:25.410 --> 00:05:27.850 feel right. This doesn't feel like who we are 00:05:27.850 --> 00:05:31.870 now. We decided to just leave it on the hard 00:05:31.870 --> 00:05:34.610 drive. At that time, to be honest, we had decided 00:05:34.610 --> 00:05:37.180 we weren't going to do new music at all. We kind 00:05:37.180 --> 00:05:39.480 of figured, you know what? The reason we were 00:05:39.480 --> 00:05:42.459 making this album was because we thought people 00:05:42.459 --> 00:05:45.819 wanted to hear the first album. So we thought, 00:05:45.920 --> 00:05:48.779 why mess with that? Let's just go. Let's play 00:05:48.779 --> 00:05:51.319 shows. Let's play the songs that people know, 00:05:51.519 --> 00:05:54.920 that people are coming out to hear. And so, yeah, 00:05:54.980 --> 00:05:57.259 we, like I said, decided not to do new music. 00:05:57.300 --> 00:06:00.600 And then we sat down one day and just decided 00:06:00.600 --> 00:06:04.939 to write. Ended up writing our newest single, 00:06:05.079 --> 00:06:34.670 Bring Me Back to Life. I'm in a phase now I've 00:06:34.670 --> 00:07:15.649 been for days now Can you pick me up You know, 00:07:15.649 --> 00:07:18.490 that song was, it felt really special at the 00:07:18.490 --> 00:07:20.329 time. You know, I mean, it still does, obviously. 00:07:20.509 --> 00:07:23.529 I love that song, but it was something that felt 00:07:23.529 --> 00:07:27.089 fresh and different for us. And it felt, it felt 00:07:27.089 --> 00:07:30.410 exciting again. And it reminded us that we actually 00:07:30.410 --> 00:07:32.569 know how to do this. You know, we know how to 00:07:32.569 --> 00:07:35.470 write songs. We know how to produce music. So, 00:07:35.569 --> 00:07:38.050 yeah, that was kind of the jumping off point 00:07:38.050 --> 00:07:40.310 for the new material. So, yeah, pretty grateful 00:07:40.310 --> 00:07:42.740 for that song. Well, I have to ask because the 00:07:42.740 --> 00:07:45.319 opening lyrics on Bring Me Back to Life are, 00:07:45.379 --> 00:07:48.259 I've got nothing left to say that I really want 00:07:48.259 --> 00:07:50.920 to put into a song. There's got to be a story 00:07:50.920 --> 00:07:53.459 there. I mean, yeah. I mean, when you've been 00:07:53.459 --> 00:07:56.319 writing as long as we have, sometimes it's really 00:07:56.319 --> 00:07:59.560 difficult to be inspired to write a new song. 00:07:59.680 --> 00:08:02.000 You know what I mean? You sit around and you 00:08:02.000 --> 00:08:04.620 try to think of concepts that you haven't done 00:08:04.620 --> 00:08:07.500 before, and it just becomes a little daunting. 00:08:09.680 --> 00:08:11.420 That was actually Marshall's idea. We're sitting 00:08:11.420 --> 00:08:13.379 there trying to trying to come up with a concept 00:08:13.379 --> 00:08:15.180 to write about. And he's like, what if we just 00:08:15.180 --> 00:08:18.699 wrote about that? You know, like not being inspired, 00:08:18.839 --> 00:08:22.699 not having anything to say. And so that's kind 00:08:22.699 --> 00:08:24.980 of where we started was with that opening line. 00:08:25.300 --> 00:08:27.459 And then obviously, you know, the song kind of 00:08:27.459 --> 00:08:29.680 grew from there and became something else a little 00:08:29.680 --> 00:08:32.440 bit. I mean, it is it is about being uninspired 00:08:32.440 --> 00:08:35.960 and life being kind of. I don't know, being stuck 00:08:35.960 --> 00:08:38.700 in the same old routine and, you know, wanting 00:08:38.700 --> 00:08:41.519 someone to come in and kickstart you and bring 00:08:41.519 --> 00:08:44.440 you back, bring you back to life. So, yeah, that's 00:08:44.440 --> 00:08:46.700 kind of the story behind it. And that is where 00:08:46.700 --> 00:08:49.860 the album's title comes from, Back to Life. I 00:08:49.860 --> 00:08:52.519 guess it's safe to assume that none of the tracks 00:08:52.519 --> 00:08:55.080 from that scrapped album actually made the leap 00:08:55.080 --> 00:08:58.679 onto this album. They did not, for whatever reason. 00:08:58.740 --> 00:09:01.639 I mean. I need to I need to go back. It's been 00:09:01.639 --> 00:09:03.559 it's been a few years since I've listened through 00:09:03.559 --> 00:09:05.519 those through those songs. So it might be fun 00:09:05.519 --> 00:09:08.000 to go back and revisit them. But, you know, I 00:09:08.000 --> 00:09:10.059 think right now they're probably just going to 00:09:10.059 --> 00:09:12.500 live and die on the hard drive. They're going 00:09:12.500 --> 00:09:14.879 to wait for when you guys do like Bruce Springsteen, 00:09:14.940 --> 00:09:17.220 having the tracks box set will do a hinder one 00:09:17.220 --> 00:09:19.980 down the road with all the unreleased material, 00:09:20.139 --> 00:09:23.559 because I know as a fan, I want to hear it because 00:09:23.559 --> 00:09:27.460 I know as an artist, I sometimes feel like I'm 00:09:27.460 --> 00:09:30.409 my own worst critic. So what you guys might be 00:09:30.409 --> 00:09:32.710 saying, oh, God, it's just something that doesn't 00:09:32.710 --> 00:09:35.289 sit right. I bet you there's probably a good 00:09:35.289 --> 00:09:37.149 number of songs on there that the Hinder fan 00:09:37.149 --> 00:09:39.809 base is going to eat up. Yeah, you might be right. 00:09:39.970 --> 00:09:41.850 You know, it just kind of we'll just have to 00:09:41.850 --> 00:09:43.830 see what happens, you know, with time as you 00:09:43.830 --> 00:09:46.090 go back and listen to older, older material. 00:09:46.210 --> 00:09:48.029 Sometimes it hits you in a different way. And 00:09:48.029 --> 00:09:49.889 I mean, to be honest, that's kind of what happened 00:09:49.889 --> 00:09:52.730 on on this one. You know, we went and revisited 00:09:52.730 --> 00:09:56.090 older material that we had written for, you know, 00:09:56.090 --> 00:09:57.990 some of our side projects that we were planning 00:09:57.990 --> 00:10:01.190 on doing. And, you know, it had decided not to, 00:10:01.190 --> 00:10:03.909 you know, to continue with them. But yeah, some 00:10:03.909 --> 00:10:06.610 of those tracks we kind of reimagined as Hinder 00:10:06.610 --> 00:10:08.830 tracks, you know, and kind of gave them that 00:10:08.830 --> 00:10:12.230 like Hinder rock element back into them. And 00:10:12.230 --> 00:10:14.870 it completely changed some of those songs and 00:10:14.870 --> 00:10:17.350 made them contenders for the album. So, yeah, 00:10:17.429 --> 00:10:19.350 there are a few on there that are from other, 00:10:19.389 --> 00:10:22.450 you know, for other projects. Well, going back 00:10:22.450 --> 00:10:25.830 and looking at the band's discography, like Clockwork. 00:10:26.379 --> 00:10:28.580 For the first six albums, there was either a 00:10:28.580 --> 00:10:31.659 two or three year gap in between the albums. 00:10:31.759 --> 00:10:35.559 You had Extreme Behavior in 2005, Take It to 00:10:35.559 --> 00:10:38.600 the Limit in 2008, All American Nightmare in 00:10:38.600 --> 00:10:42.379 2010, Welcome to the Freak Show in 2012, When 00:10:42.379 --> 00:10:45.919 the Smoke Clears in 2015, and The Rain in 2017. 00:10:46.759 --> 00:10:49.860 The shelved album would have been 2020, which 00:10:49.860 --> 00:10:53.129 kept you on that two or three year cycle. So 00:10:53.129 --> 00:10:56.070 here we are in 2025, there's been an eight year 00:10:56.070 --> 00:11:00.350 break. Did breaking up that two to three year 00:11:00.350 --> 00:11:03.669 album cycle, maybe rejuvenate the band's creative 00:11:03.669 --> 00:11:07.190 spirit in a sense? You know, I don't know if 00:11:07.190 --> 00:11:10.190 I would say that necessarily because, you know, 00:11:10.190 --> 00:11:13.190 Marshall and I, we always write and record music 00:11:13.190 --> 00:11:16.029 for, you know, whether it's other projects or 00:11:16.029 --> 00:11:20.309 other bands or just sometimes just for fun. So, 00:11:20.370 --> 00:11:24.259 I mean. There are a handful of songs that I did 00:11:24.259 --> 00:11:27.080 by myself, for example. I doubt anybody will 00:11:27.080 --> 00:11:31.720 ever hear them, but we've done a lot. Like I 00:11:31.720 --> 00:11:33.460 said, we had a couple of side projects that we 00:11:33.460 --> 00:11:37.080 did just because creating music, that's who we 00:11:37.080 --> 00:11:40.100 are. That's what we do. And like I said, some 00:11:40.100 --> 00:11:42.440 of those songs were written during that break. 00:11:42.740 --> 00:11:45.960 So I wouldn't necessarily say that it changed 00:11:45.960 --> 00:11:48.820 much for us, to be honest. Okay, that's fair. 00:11:49.389 --> 00:11:51.929 Well, Back to Life is being released on Evil 00:11:51.929 --> 00:11:54.110 Teen Records, which is the label that's owned 00:11:54.110 --> 00:11:57.690 by the legendary Warren Haynes. Can you talk 00:11:57.690 --> 00:12:00.070 about how the band got connected with them for 00:12:00.070 --> 00:12:03.909 this release and what they bring to Hinder versus 00:12:03.909 --> 00:12:07.149 your experiences with, let's say, Universal Republic 00:12:07.149 --> 00:12:09.409 and The End, who put out the last two Hinder 00:12:09.409 --> 00:12:12.610 albums? Yeah, to be honest, we haven't even, 00:12:12.649 --> 00:12:15.929 we've never spoken with Warren. It's his wife, 00:12:16.070 --> 00:12:20.500 Stephanie. Yeah, she's been running running point 00:12:20.500 --> 00:12:24.379 on everything and her along with a guy that has 00:12:24.379 --> 00:12:27.279 worked for us and in our camp behind the scenes 00:12:27.279 --> 00:12:30.320 named Jason Duarte. He moved over to that side 00:12:30.320 --> 00:12:33.019 and started working with Steph. And so he's the 00:12:33.019 --> 00:12:36.039 one that actually introduced us and made everything 00:12:36.039 --> 00:12:39.259 kind of happen. So, yeah, it's it's been a it's 00:12:39.259 --> 00:12:41.059 been a really cool experience. You know, she's 00:12:41.059 --> 00:12:45.200 just so she's so laid back. She doesn't try to 00:12:45.200 --> 00:12:49.879 get involved on the creative side and make changes. 00:12:50.220 --> 00:12:55.279 She just lets us do what we want to do. Let's 00:12:55.279 --> 00:12:59.440 us be the band that we want to be. I think that's 00:12:59.440 --> 00:13:01.320 really made a difference for us. It's given us 00:13:01.320 --> 00:13:04.940 a little more confidence going into creating. 00:13:06.159 --> 00:13:09.600 It's made it definitely enjoyable. It's made 00:13:09.600 --> 00:13:12.769 it a lot of fun. Like everything that's happening 00:13:12.769 --> 00:13:15.809 that you're seeing, it's us. And that's nice. 00:13:16.429 --> 00:13:18.929 Now, would you say that for the first couple 00:13:18.929 --> 00:13:20.950 albums that when you were with Universal, with 00:13:20.950 --> 00:13:23.429 the major label, was there a pressure that was 00:13:23.429 --> 00:13:26.450 constantly on the band, especially after Extreme 00:13:26.450 --> 00:13:30.169 Behavior had the hits like Lips of an Angel and 00:13:30.169 --> 00:13:33.830 Get Stoned? When you got to... take it to the 00:13:33.830 --> 00:13:36.129 limit. I know there's that old edict that you 00:13:36.129 --> 00:13:38.470 have your entire life to write the first album 00:13:38.470 --> 00:13:41.809 and 35 seconds to write the second one. Was that 00:13:41.809 --> 00:13:44.470 something that came to play for you guys? No, 00:13:44.570 --> 00:13:47.429 not really. When we went up to Vancouver where 00:13:47.429 --> 00:13:50.470 we did both of our first two albums, when we 00:13:50.470 --> 00:13:52.190 went up there, we didn't have a lot of material. 00:13:52.610 --> 00:13:57.149 We had pretty much, I don't want to say a metal 00:13:57.149 --> 00:14:00.529 album, but it was a really dark, heavy album 00:14:00.529 --> 00:14:04.519 written. Right before we left to go to Canada, 00:14:04.700 --> 00:14:07.639 we had actually been talking with another producer 00:14:07.639 --> 00:14:10.779 by the name of Warren Riker out of L .A. And 00:14:10.779 --> 00:14:13.559 he did a bunch of the heavier stuff. He did Down. 00:14:13.700 --> 00:14:15.519 That was really the only one I can remember now. 00:14:15.700 --> 00:14:18.120 But so we were getting ready to head out to L 00:14:18.120 --> 00:14:20.620 .A. to work with him. And then the last second 00:14:20.620 --> 00:14:22.539 changed our mind and went to Vancouver and worked 00:14:22.539 --> 00:14:25.879 with Joey Moy and Brian Howes to do our demos, 00:14:26.159 --> 00:14:28.519 what became the demos for the first record. So 00:14:28.519 --> 00:14:30.000 when we got there, you know, we kind of just 00:14:30.000 --> 00:14:33.100 jumped in and started writing. So we sound like 00:14:33.100 --> 00:14:35.519 we had all these songs, you know, for a long 00:14:35.519 --> 00:14:38.539 time. So we did have them for about a year before 00:14:38.539 --> 00:14:40.620 we started actually recording for the album. 00:14:40.759 --> 00:14:43.980 So, yeah, so that wasn't the case for us. But 00:14:43.980 --> 00:14:45.879 I forgot where I was going with that. What was 00:14:45.879 --> 00:14:48.340 your initial question? The initial question was 00:14:48.340 --> 00:14:51.379 if there was after the success of Extreme Behavior, 00:14:51.639 --> 00:14:54.799 was there any pressure from the label to kind 00:14:54.799 --> 00:14:57.820 of recreate the magic on Take It to the Limit? 00:14:58.240 --> 00:15:02.379 Yeah, definitely. Which is where the song Without 00:15:02.379 --> 00:15:04.980 You came into play. You know, if you listen to 00:15:04.980 --> 00:15:08.759 that song, it is kind of a rewrite of Lips of 00:15:08.759 --> 00:15:11.399 an Angel. You know, it's very, even the chord 00:15:11.399 --> 00:15:13.620 progression is very similar. You know what I 00:15:13.620 --> 00:15:16.279 mean? So we actually referred to it as Lips 2. 00:15:17.240 --> 00:15:20.000 And we didn't play it for a long time because 00:15:20.000 --> 00:15:23.019 of that. But I mean, now, after taking a break 00:15:23.019 --> 00:15:24.620 from it for so long and going back, it's really 00:15:24.620 --> 00:15:27.200 not as similar as I remembered it being. But 00:15:27.200 --> 00:15:29.080 yeah, I mean, there's there's always that that 00:15:29.080 --> 00:15:31.980 pressure, you know what I mean? And when a label's 00:15:31.980 --> 00:15:36.080 involved, there are always several people, cooks 00:15:36.080 --> 00:15:37.940 in the kitchen, I guess. There are a lot of cooks 00:15:37.940 --> 00:15:41.000 in the kitchen. And we got lucky, though, I will 00:15:41.000 --> 00:15:43.500 say that when we were with Universal, we had 00:15:43.500 --> 00:15:46.879 a really, really great A &R guy. I don't know 00:15:46.879 --> 00:15:50.259 that we fully appreciated it at the time. But 00:15:50.259 --> 00:15:52.399 he had a lot of great ideas that really helped 00:15:52.399 --> 00:15:56.500 some of those songs in the end. And he was a 00:15:56.500 --> 00:15:58.539 really good dude. So I kind of miss having him 00:15:58.539 --> 00:16:00.720 around, if I'm being honest. Tom McKay was his 00:16:00.720 --> 00:16:03.740 name. He's a really good guy. Awesome. Well, 00:16:03.779 --> 00:16:05.519 the next song I want to dive into is actually 00:16:05.519 --> 00:16:07.600 the first single you released from the album 00:16:07.600 --> 00:16:10.879 back in late 2024. And that's the song Live Without 00:16:10.879 --> 00:16:25.889 It. Why it's hard to keep trusting you And now 00:16:25.889 --> 00:16:29.610 I'm getting older The fire's getting colder And 00:16:29.610 --> 00:16:33.950 it feels like wasting time Is there any question 00:16:33.950 --> 00:17:12.089 Why I shouldn't let this thing Judging from the 00:17:12.089 --> 00:17:15.049 comments from fans online, they've really flocked 00:17:15.049 --> 00:17:18.150 to this song from either the band's live show 00:17:18.150 --> 00:17:22.369 or the track's rotation on Sirius XM Octane. 00:17:22.569 --> 00:17:26.309 And I kind of found that compelling because usually 00:17:26.309 --> 00:17:29.509 all you hear from fans and if you read YouTube 00:17:29.509 --> 00:17:33.109 comments is, I stumbled across this on my YouTube 00:17:33.109 --> 00:17:36.420 feed or on my Spotify. And you don't hear people 00:17:36.420 --> 00:17:39.940 talking about live performances or radio airplay 00:17:39.940 --> 00:17:42.220 pretty much at all at this point. Given that 00:17:42.220 --> 00:17:45.500 streaming wasn't an option when Extreme Behavior 00:17:45.500 --> 00:17:49.500 came out 20 years ago, has the band's mindset 00:17:49.500 --> 00:17:53.799 at all changed in terms of releasing music? And 00:17:53.799 --> 00:17:57.019 how much has streaming factored into that? I 00:17:57.019 --> 00:17:59.200 mean, obviously, it changes everything. You know 00:17:59.200 --> 00:18:02.890 what I mean? once you're done with a song obviously 00:18:02.890 --> 00:18:06.329 i mean you're you go immediately into into marketing 00:18:06.329 --> 00:18:09.490 and into like what's the plan how are we going 00:18:09.490 --> 00:18:13.349 to get this music out to all these people so 00:18:13.349 --> 00:18:17.470 i mean your entire plan is is based around streams 00:18:17.470 --> 00:18:19.710 now because you're not nobody's selling anything 00:18:19.710 --> 00:18:22.799 right like I mean, there are a handful of artists 00:18:22.799 --> 00:18:24.720 out there that can actually sell records. But 00:18:24.720 --> 00:18:27.160 for the most part, it's all based around streaming. 00:18:27.339 --> 00:18:29.420 So you're trying to figure out, you know, your 00:18:29.420 --> 00:18:31.259 different plans. Where are we going to put this 00:18:31.259 --> 00:18:33.900 budget here for ads? And what are we going to 00:18:33.900 --> 00:18:37.059 link it to? You know what I mean? What platform 00:18:37.059 --> 00:18:39.799 is going to be the most supportive to put us 00:18:39.799 --> 00:18:42.960 on these playlists? And how do we pitch for those 00:18:42.960 --> 00:18:45.539 playlists? And there's just a lot that goes into 00:18:45.539 --> 00:18:48.299 it now. And it's, to be honest, I mean... Since 00:18:48.299 --> 00:18:51.240 it's been so long for us, it's kind of a foreign 00:18:51.240 --> 00:18:54.140 concept. And it's something that we had to play 00:18:54.140 --> 00:18:56.259 a little bit of catch up on and kind of learn 00:18:56.259 --> 00:18:58.680 the ins and outs of. And we're still learning 00:18:58.680 --> 00:19:01.279 about it every day. So it's kind of fun, but 00:19:01.279 --> 00:19:03.900 it's also a little scary because it's not the 00:19:03.900 --> 00:19:06.839 old way of doing things, which we felt like we 00:19:06.839 --> 00:19:09.640 knew how to do. OK, so then are you embracing 00:19:09.640 --> 00:19:11.779 the physical medium for this release? Are you 00:19:11.779 --> 00:19:14.940 going the streaming only route for now? Yeah, 00:19:15.000 --> 00:19:17.539 we are going to. I know for sure we're doing 00:19:17.539 --> 00:19:21.039 vinyl. I believe we're going to do CDs. I don't 00:19:21.039 --> 00:19:23.740 know what that's going to look like yet, how 00:19:23.740 --> 00:19:26.119 many, where they're going to be distributed to, 00:19:26.299 --> 00:19:29.299 but we are definitely planning on doing that. 00:19:29.319 --> 00:19:30.599 And that's another thing that's cool about Evil 00:19:30.599 --> 00:19:34.200 Teen and Steph is that she's kind of from the 00:19:34.200 --> 00:19:36.519 same school of thought as we are. You know what 00:19:36.519 --> 00:19:38.880 I mean? She manages a bunch of other bands that 00:19:38.880 --> 00:19:41.410 are... a little older and, you know, that have, 00:19:41.490 --> 00:19:44.049 I guess, heritage acts is what they would say 00:19:44.049 --> 00:19:48.450 now. So she gets it. She knows exactly how we 00:19:48.450 --> 00:19:51.349 feel about it. So it's cool to be in a partnership 00:19:51.349 --> 00:19:53.509 with somebody like that. Well, if I can just 00:19:53.509 --> 00:19:55.990 raise my hand and say that if you are selling 00:19:55.990 --> 00:19:58.829 CDs as somebody who owns nearly 5 ,000 of them, 00:19:58.910 --> 00:20:02.309 I need a copy. That is awesome. Where do you 00:20:02.309 --> 00:20:05.690 have the room to store 5 ,000 CDs? One of my 00:20:05.690 --> 00:20:08.289 closest friends on the planet built me a cabinet. 00:20:08.910 --> 00:20:11.869 I actually de -jewel case them and I have them 00:20:11.869 --> 00:20:14.309 in little mini sleeves. So they look like little 00:20:14.309 --> 00:20:17.650 vinyl LPs and bins and you pull a bin out and 00:20:17.650 --> 00:20:19.509 you can flip through them like vinyl records. 00:20:20.089 --> 00:20:22.410 That's amazing. I got to see a photo of this. 00:20:22.569 --> 00:20:24.490 I'll make sure to send that your way when we're 00:20:24.490 --> 00:20:26.069 done here. And then for the people listening, 00:20:26.190 --> 00:20:29.109 I'll post that image over on the episode page 00:20:29.109 --> 00:20:32.049 at myweeklymixtape .com. But with that said, 00:20:32.109 --> 00:20:35.140 look. 25 years in radio. When I was in college, 00:20:35.220 --> 00:20:37.599 I worked at a record store. There were always 00:20:37.599 --> 00:20:40.460 promos, demos. I would go to see bands and just 00:20:40.460 --> 00:20:43.500 grab stuff when I was there and at shows. And 00:20:43.500 --> 00:20:45.579 then obviously the stuff that I want to buy in 00:20:45.579 --> 00:20:47.559 record stores and indie record stores all over 00:20:47.559 --> 00:20:50.380 the place. So yeah, it adds up. And yeah, it's 00:20:50.380 --> 00:20:53.980 a sickness. I understand. That's awesome. I actually 00:20:53.980 --> 00:20:56.980 just saw or found some of our old promos the 00:20:56.980 --> 00:20:59.819 other day. One with, it was us on the bottom. 00:21:00.240 --> 00:21:01.880 And I think it was had get stoned on. And the 00:21:01.880 --> 00:21:04.759 top of it was the band 10 years and their first 00:21:04.759 --> 00:21:06.640 single wake or wasteland. That's what it was. 00:21:07.000 --> 00:21:08.900 And yeah, I thought that was pretty cool. I've 00:21:08.900 --> 00:21:11.119 got a box in the attic of, of all those old promo 00:21:11.119 --> 00:21:12.880 items that I kind of forgot about. I'm going 00:21:12.880 --> 00:21:15.579 to go revisit. Yeah. By all means. Yeah. It's 00:21:15.579 --> 00:21:18.420 kind of fun. Well, I do want to acknowledge something 00:21:18.420 --> 00:21:21.359 here because this is the 20th anniversary of 00:21:21.359 --> 00:21:24.279 extreme behavior. And I want to give props to 00:21:24.279 --> 00:21:26.900 hinder for kind of taking the road, less traveled 00:21:26.900 --> 00:21:29.390 in this situation. Because you could have very 00:21:29.390 --> 00:21:33.069 easily just trotted out the 20th anniversary 00:21:33.069 --> 00:21:37.390 deluxe edition of Extreme Behavior. But instead, 00:21:37.529 --> 00:21:41.849 the band decided to just say new album instead. 00:21:42.589 --> 00:21:44.589 Was that something you guys did intentionally? 00:21:44.710 --> 00:21:46.750 And if so, what was the mindset behind that? 00:21:46.789 --> 00:21:48.990 Because I think it's brilliant. Well, thank you. 00:21:49.089 --> 00:21:52.569 Thank you. Yeah, I mean, you know, it's kind 00:21:52.569 --> 00:21:54.829 of the same reason why we decided not to put. 00:21:55.259 --> 00:21:58.559 put out that that album that we thought was you 00:21:58.559 --> 00:22:01.720 know reminiscent of of that first album you know 00:22:01.720 --> 00:22:04.740 it's everything it's not who we are anymore you 00:22:04.740 --> 00:22:07.619 know i mean yeah those those songs are i mean 00:22:07.619 --> 00:22:09.599 they're ingrained in us right that i mean it 00:22:09.599 --> 00:22:13.359 is who we are but yet now as as a band you know 00:22:13.359 --> 00:22:15.740 we're looking toward the future you know we have 00:22:15.740 --> 00:22:19.059 new new fresh ideas that we we want to get out 00:22:19.059 --> 00:22:21.720 and um you know i think i think that's important 00:22:21.720 --> 00:22:24.900 to kind of just keep marching forward We're not 00:22:24.900 --> 00:22:27.380 done yet. We're not that old. I mean, I know 00:22:27.380 --> 00:22:30.140 we've been around for a long time, but we started 00:22:30.140 --> 00:22:31.940 when we were pretty young. So we have a lot of 00:22:31.940 --> 00:22:34.259 life left in us. And there's something I want 00:22:34.259 --> 00:22:36.079 to talk about with some of the new songs that 00:22:36.079 --> 00:22:38.740 are on this album, because some of them have 00:22:38.740 --> 00:22:41.640 been in Hinder's live rotation for the last several 00:22:41.640 --> 00:22:43.640 years, especially one we talked about earlier, 00:22:43.940 --> 00:22:46.900 Bring Me Back to Life. Did road testing these 00:22:46.900 --> 00:22:49.460 songs before recording them impact the final 00:22:49.460 --> 00:22:52.640 studio version in any way? On that one, not not 00:22:52.640 --> 00:22:55.579 really. It didn't it didn't change much. You 00:22:55.579 --> 00:22:58.220 know, we recorded it. It's funny. We ended up 00:22:58.220 --> 00:23:00.720 recording that song three different times. Oh, 00:23:00.759 --> 00:23:03.660 and I can't tell the difference really between 00:23:03.660 --> 00:23:07.640 the two. Yeah, that one that one just kind of 00:23:07.640 --> 00:23:09.839 once we did it, it kind of stayed, you know, 00:23:09.839 --> 00:23:14.579 and we we wrote that song and planned to release 00:23:14.579 --> 00:23:17.980 it, had a plan and it was about to come out. 00:23:18.240 --> 00:23:20.039 And then something would change. We'd have to 00:23:20.039 --> 00:23:22.380 move the date. And then, you know, we almost 00:23:22.380 --> 00:23:24.640 put it out on a different label. So we ended 00:23:24.640 --> 00:23:26.779 up going to L .A. and recording it with another 00:23:26.779 --> 00:23:29.579 producer. And that went in a handful of other 00:23:29.579 --> 00:23:31.960 songs and, you know, just didn't end up working 00:23:31.960 --> 00:23:34.279 out. So we came back and rerecorded it again 00:23:34.279 --> 00:23:37.799 and, you know, ended up with Evil Teen. So, yeah, 00:23:37.880 --> 00:23:40.180 that one was just one of those songs that I think 00:23:40.180 --> 00:23:42.180 we got it right the first time. That's how we 00:23:42.180 --> 00:23:45.180 felt. You know, there will be a rock version 00:23:45.180 --> 00:23:47.859 because, you know, that song is a little. It's 00:23:47.859 --> 00:23:50.119 a little lighter than some of what you typically 00:23:50.119 --> 00:23:54.079 hear on, say, Octane or the active rock format. 00:23:54.259 --> 00:23:57.920 So we did just finish a rock version that's a 00:23:57.920 --> 00:24:00.599 little bit heavier. So that might be fun for 00:24:00.599 --> 00:24:46.029 people to hunt down. While we're on the live 00:24:46.029 --> 00:24:48.930 thing here, Hinder's a band with, as of today, 00:24:49.230 --> 00:24:53.089 seven studio albums under its belt, plus a number 00:24:53.089 --> 00:24:55.369 of cover songs that you've recorded and released 00:24:55.369 --> 00:24:58.569 as bonus singles over the years. As the hits 00:24:58.569 --> 00:25:02.990 piled up for the band, the set list almost becomes 00:25:02.990 --> 00:25:06.650 beholden to certain songs because, i .e., the 00:25:06.650 --> 00:25:09.690 fans have spoken. If Hinder walked off stage 00:25:09.690 --> 00:25:13.089 and did not play Lips of an Angel, the people 00:25:13.089 --> 00:25:15.920 would revolt. But then there's the subset of 00:25:15.920 --> 00:25:18.960 fans, and I think I might lump myself into this 00:25:18.960 --> 00:25:22.220 group that love the hits, but I kind of want 00:25:22.220 --> 00:25:24.000 to hear some of the deeper cuts. I want to hear 00:25:24.000 --> 00:25:26.519 Loaded and Alone. I want to hear Drink You Away. 00:25:27.000 --> 00:25:30.220 I want to hear How Long. And then there's the 00:25:30.220 --> 00:25:33.559 band who want to continue to push forward musically 00:25:33.559 --> 00:25:36.960 with your new material. How does Hinder strike 00:25:36.960 --> 00:25:41.500 a balance that, in hopes, pleases all three of 00:25:41.500 --> 00:25:44.819 those pillars? It's hard. You know, it's really 00:25:44.819 --> 00:25:47.140 difficult to do, if I'm being honest. You know, 00:25:47.160 --> 00:25:50.160 we kind of get into little arguments about it 00:25:50.160 --> 00:25:52.539 every time, you know, a tour rolls around. But, 00:25:52.599 --> 00:25:55.740 you know, you just do the best you can. And like 00:25:55.740 --> 00:25:57.220 you said, you put in the hits, right? Because 00:25:57.220 --> 00:25:59.059 that's the reason people are coming to shows, 00:25:59.119 --> 00:26:01.079 the majority of people anyway. That's why they're 00:26:01.079 --> 00:26:04.599 coming. And then you put in your new stuff that 00:26:04.599 --> 00:26:07.140 you feel like you need to get out, right? You're 00:26:07.140 --> 00:26:09.460 promoting that new stuff. So, you know, you just 00:26:09.460 --> 00:26:11.880 pick two or three. You know, we try not to go 00:26:11.880 --> 00:26:14.349 more than three. you know, because we don't want 00:26:14.349 --> 00:26:16.210 to drive people away. We want to keep them interested, 00:26:16.329 --> 00:26:18.789 you know, and then so whatever's left in the 00:26:18.789 --> 00:26:20.690 set list for the time, you know, to fill the 00:26:20.690 --> 00:26:23.450 slot, then you just kind of decide, you know, 00:26:23.450 --> 00:26:25.769 go through the, go through the catalog and start 00:26:25.769 --> 00:26:27.809 making decisions, you know, and a lot of it'll 00:26:27.809 --> 00:26:30.990 be kind of dictated by tempo a lot of times, 00:26:31.109 --> 00:26:32.589 you know, because you don't, you don't want a 00:26:32.589 --> 00:26:35.529 set that's all ballads or something that's just 00:26:35.529 --> 00:26:38.630 in your face the whole time. Right. So, so yeah, 00:26:38.730 --> 00:26:41.769 I mean, I would say like tempo and feel will, 00:26:41.849 --> 00:26:44.559 will dictate a lot of it. Well, I touched on 00:26:44.559 --> 00:26:46.720 cover songs before briefly when we were talking 00:26:46.720 --> 00:26:48.420 about the live shows, but I'd like to take a 00:26:48.420 --> 00:26:50.900 moment to talk to you about some of those covers, 00:26:50.980 --> 00:26:53.900 because as far as I'm concerned, you guys have 00:26:53.900 --> 00:26:56.859 put out some certifiable bangers over the years, 00:26:56.900 --> 00:27:00.880 including your take or your reimagining, if you 00:27:00.880 --> 00:27:02.920 will, of Eddie Money's Take Me Home Tonight, 00:27:03.099 --> 00:27:07.930 which was on the deluxe. Walmart edition of Extreme 00:27:07.930 --> 00:27:10.369 Behavior, if I'm not mistaken. Because there's 00:27:10.369 --> 00:27:13.390 like sub -levels of deluxe editions that at that 00:27:13.390 --> 00:27:15.809 point in time, every store was getting their 00:27:15.809 --> 00:27:18.910 own exclusive copy of every album ever. Real 00:27:18.910 --> 00:27:20.869 tough time to be a CD fan at that point. But 00:27:20.869 --> 00:27:24.130 I digress. Back in 2019 when we talked, you had 00:27:24.130 --> 00:27:26.990 either just released or were about to release 00:27:26.990 --> 00:27:30.029 the band's cover of The Eagles' Life in the Fast 00:27:30.029 --> 00:27:32.950 Lane that you still play to this day. Using those 00:27:32.950 --> 00:27:36.150 two songs as examples, simply because, and I'm 00:27:36.150 --> 00:27:38.170 going to be honest here, I'm just being selfish. 00:27:38.430 --> 00:27:40.869 I want to hear the stories behind those two cover 00:27:40.869 --> 00:27:44.130 songs. But overall, what's the band's MO when 00:27:44.130 --> 00:27:47.369 it comes to putting your stamp on a song? Man, 00:27:47.470 --> 00:27:49.849 you know, it happens. It's different every single 00:27:49.849 --> 00:27:52.529 time. You know, like with the Eddie Money track. 00:27:52.809 --> 00:27:55.329 I mean, how could you not do that song? You know, 00:27:55.349 --> 00:27:57.890 it's just, I mean, that song's amazing. You know, 00:27:57.930 --> 00:28:01.900 it's got everything you want in a song. I mean, 00:28:01.920 --> 00:28:04.960 that one, it just kind of happened. We just kind 00:28:04.960 --> 00:28:09.059 of had a conversation and did it. With the Life 00:28:09.059 --> 00:28:12.720 in the Fast Lane version, I actually, I was sitting 00:28:12.720 --> 00:28:15.059 down one day with an acoustic guitar and I was 00:28:15.059 --> 00:28:16.980 like, oh, you know, I don't think I've ever, 00:28:17.019 --> 00:28:19.720 I've never learned that riff. I'm going to just 00:28:19.720 --> 00:28:22.319 kind of see if I can kind of learn it, you know, 00:28:22.319 --> 00:28:24.839 and I'm just doing it by ear and kind of struggling 00:28:24.839 --> 00:28:27.039 through because I'm not, you know, I'm not a 00:28:27.039 --> 00:28:30.210 real guitar player, you know what I mean? i i 00:28:30.210 --> 00:28:32.569 was kind of playing it different and i noticed 00:28:32.569 --> 00:28:35.990 like oh wow this is kind of this this seems a 00:28:35.990 --> 00:28:37.670 little more this is really interesting it's like 00:28:37.670 --> 00:28:40.329 dark and it's like in this like like in a minor 00:28:40.329 --> 00:28:45.009 key almost you know and and so um so yeah so 00:28:45.009 --> 00:28:47.529 i i took it to marshall and and you know he thought 00:28:47.529 --> 00:28:49.910 it was it was really interesting too so we decided 00:28:49.910 --> 00:28:52.140 to just kind of You know, the lyrics of that 00:28:52.140 --> 00:28:55.559 song are kind of dark and ominous way. So we 00:28:55.559 --> 00:28:57.420 thought it would be really cool to just make 00:28:57.420 --> 00:28:59.559 the production and the overall feel of the song 00:28:59.559 --> 00:29:02.400 kind of match the lyrics. While we're on cover 00:29:02.400 --> 00:29:04.960 songs, I want to take it now and kind of flip 00:29:04.960 --> 00:29:08.400 the coin because we are talking about the 20th 00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:11.799 anniversary of Extreme Behavior. And as of you 00:29:11.799 --> 00:29:14.859 and I recording this, Lakeview released a brand 00:29:14.859 --> 00:29:18.759 new studio cover. of lips of an angel. So on 00:29:18.759 --> 00:29:22.059 the flip side of hinder covering songs, what 00:29:22.059 --> 00:29:26.319 is it like for the band to hear your song re 00:29:26.319 --> 00:29:29.039 -imagined by another artist? And then to add 00:29:29.039 --> 00:29:31.000 to that, just what are your thoughts on their 00:29:31.000 --> 00:29:34.079 version overall? I would be, would have been 00:29:34.079 --> 00:29:37.059 extremely thrilled if they hadn't released it 00:29:37.059 --> 00:29:42.839 on this same day as our, our new single. No, 00:29:43.200 --> 00:29:46.119 I mean, I don't know, man. Like what, what a, 00:29:46.119 --> 00:29:48.779 what a cool thing to have happen. You know, I 00:29:48.779 --> 00:29:50.500 mean, for, for me, I mean, that song has been 00:29:50.500 --> 00:29:53.059 covered a million times and I've, I, you know, 00:29:53.059 --> 00:29:54.920 I've, I've heard a million of them, I feel like, 00:29:54.960 --> 00:29:59.680 but we are huge fans of Lakeview. And, uh, you 00:29:59.680 --> 00:30:01.839 know, that's, that's one of those bands that 00:30:01.839 --> 00:30:04.740 almost every night after the show, when we're, 00:30:04.740 --> 00:30:06.859 you know, sitting on the bus party and drinking, 00:30:06.859 --> 00:30:09.799 whatever, trying to wind down that album comes 00:30:09.799 --> 00:30:14.569 on almost every single night. And, uh, So, I 00:30:14.569 --> 00:30:17.569 mean, to have one of our favorite new bands cover 00:30:17.569 --> 00:30:21.450 our song like right now at this time, I think 00:30:21.450 --> 00:30:24.089 it's awesome. I mean, it's what a compliment. 00:30:24.289 --> 00:30:27.349 So we're thrilled. And they nailed it, too. Oh, 00:30:27.430 --> 00:30:29.369 they did a great job of it. I just want to say, 00:30:29.410 --> 00:30:31.910 if you ever want to do a right back at you to 00:30:31.910 --> 00:30:36.009 Lakeview, I could seriously hear Hinder's version 00:30:36.009 --> 00:30:39.069 of Home Team in my head. I'm just saying, dude. 00:30:39.589 --> 00:30:42.440 Yeah. I mean, honestly, like. A lot of their 00:30:42.440 --> 00:30:44.900 songs I could I could hear, you know, that way, 00:30:44.980 --> 00:30:47.000 because I mean, they already kind of do them 00:30:47.000 --> 00:30:48.940 in that style anyway. Right. They're they're 00:30:48.940 --> 00:30:50.740 they're heavy. They're heavier than we are. You 00:30:50.740 --> 00:30:53.559 know what I mean? But yeah, dude, all their songs 00:30:53.559 --> 00:30:55.980 are great. Their entire album front to back is 00:30:55.980 --> 00:30:58.500 is incredible. I mean, incredible songwriting. 00:30:58.579 --> 00:31:01.500 So, yeah. Well, we've talked about two of the 00:31:01.500 --> 00:31:03.420 singles from Back to Life, but I kind of want 00:31:03.420 --> 00:31:06.119 to dive a little deeper now and shift to some 00:31:06.119 --> 00:31:08.099 of the album tracks for a few minutes, if you 00:31:08.099 --> 00:31:10.930 don't mind. Now I have my personal favorites 00:31:10.930 --> 00:31:13.990 on the album, but I'm not in the band. What are 00:31:13.990 --> 00:31:16.309 some of your favorite songs from this new album 00:31:16.309 --> 00:31:19.730 and what's your connection to them? That's so 00:31:19.730 --> 00:31:22.410 hard. You know, like I'm really, really proud 00:31:22.410 --> 00:31:27.170 of this entire album front to back. So, you know, 00:31:27.190 --> 00:31:28.849 obviously Bring Me Back to Life is one of my 00:31:28.849 --> 00:31:31.849 favorites on the album, but there's so many. 00:31:32.430 --> 00:31:35.150 Reminiscing You, I think is a really, a really 00:31:35.150 --> 00:31:39.440 strong song. in our bedroom staring at the ceiling 00:31:39.440 --> 00:31:44.619 and it's cold now thinking about the summer when 00:31:44.619 --> 00:31:49.480 we saw the chains go cause it was so out and 00:31:49.480 --> 00:31:52.759 the chill in my bones is hurting my soul and 00:31:52.759 --> 00:31:56.640 it's wrong in the house it's kind of sad I'm 00:31:56.640 --> 00:31:58.839 reminiscing when there's no one here to listen 00:31:58.839 --> 00:32:03.059 would you hear me out if I shout about your daughter 00:32:33.959 --> 00:32:36.660 Bad Decisions is another one that I really like. 00:32:36.759 --> 00:32:39.319 It's a little more fun, a little more lighthearted. 00:32:39.920 --> 00:32:41.960 It's got that heavy rock thing to it, so that's 00:32:41.960 --> 00:34:00.140 cool. I mean, the whole thing. I was going to 00:34:00.140 --> 00:34:02.440 throw Rearview into the conversation. I think 00:34:02.440 --> 00:34:05.240 that one's another banger on there. Yeah, thanks. 00:34:05.380 --> 00:34:07.359 I keep getting that. I keep telling everybody 00:34:07.359 --> 00:34:09.500 that's like my second least favorite song on 00:34:09.500 --> 00:34:12.400 the record. Really? I don't know why. I have 00:34:12.400 --> 00:34:15.719 no idea why. I still love it. Like I said, I 00:34:15.719 --> 00:34:18.780 love the song. It's just like in order of my 00:34:18.780 --> 00:34:21.300 favorites, I think that one's pretty far down 00:34:21.300 --> 00:34:23.000 there. But I guess I'm going to have to revisit 00:34:23.000 --> 00:34:25.840 it because literally, I keep getting that. One 00:34:25.840 --> 00:34:28.199 of our really good... Good Friends is like obsessed 00:34:28.199 --> 00:35:26.840 with that song, so. It certainly hit me in the 00:35:26.840 --> 00:35:29.619 sweet spot for where I live musically. So that 00:35:29.619 --> 00:35:31.920 one, I'm just throwing that out there. I love 00:35:31.920 --> 00:35:34.280 that. No, I think that's great. I mean, I don't 00:35:34.280 --> 00:35:37.239 know. I don't get them all right, you know? All 00:35:37.239 --> 00:35:39.440 right. Well, look, this is a show that's centered 00:35:39.440 --> 00:35:42.960 around mixtapes and creating playlists and playlist 00:35:42.960 --> 00:35:46.239 curations. So I have to ask you, Cody, if you 00:35:46.239 --> 00:35:51.019 were creating the ultimate hinder mixtape, which 00:35:51.019 --> 00:35:53.329 I don't know, we'll go with. let's just say five 00:35:53.329 --> 00:35:57.150 songs across your seven albums that you would 00:35:57.150 --> 00:36:00.289 say would be, now this is not rattling off a 00:36:00.289 --> 00:36:02.969 greatest hits mix here. This is a mixtape. So 00:36:02.969 --> 00:36:06.409 this comes from your personal views of the songs, 00:36:06.469 --> 00:36:07.949 because that's what mixtapes are about, putting 00:36:07.949 --> 00:36:11.409 your stamp on it. So what would Cody Hanson's 00:36:11.409 --> 00:36:16.750 five song hinder playlist consist of? At first 00:36:16.750 --> 00:36:24.050 I got to remember all the songs. I'd say probably 00:36:24.050 --> 00:36:28.570 one of my all -time favorite Hinder songs is 00:36:28.570 --> 00:36:32.269 a song off of When the Smoke Clears called If 00:36:32.269 --> 00:36:35.630 Only for Tonight. So I'd say that one is definitely 00:36:35.630 --> 00:36:38.849 on there. The Best is Yet to Come is another 00:36:38.849 --> 00:36:42.269 6 -8 ballad. I think that song would have to 00:36:42.269 --> 00:36:45.070 be on there. Another song off of When the Smoke 00:36:45.070 --> 00:36:48.130 Clears would be Foolish Eyes. Love that song. 00:36:49.190 --> 00:36:54.650 Hmm. It's tough. It's tough. And then I'm going 00:36:54.650 --> 00:36:57.570 to have to say, I'm going to, I'll, I'll throw 00:36:57.570 --> 00:36:59.210 up and we bring me back to life on there, you 00:36:59.210 --> 00:37:02.989 know, um, from the new album. Um, what is that 00:37:02.989 --> 00:37:06.269 for? That's four. Yep. I got one more. I got 00:37:06.269 --> 00:37:09.550 one more. Um, normally we do 20, so I made it 00:37:09.550 --> 00:37:15.289 easy on you, you know, literally. Uh, yeah. And 00:37:15.289 --> 00:37:17.590 then probably, I don't know. I really like, um, 00:37:17.690 --> 00:37:21.360 man, this is hard. This is really hard. We'll 00:37:21.360 --> 00:37:23.159 go with just make it easy and say all American 00:37:23.159 --> 00:37:25.559 nightmare. I think that's a really cool, really 00:37:25.559 --> 00:37:28.840 cool rock track. Pick up your copy of hinders 00:37:28.840 --> 00:37:32.280 back to life starting today on streaming as well 00:37:32.280 --> 00:37:35.099 as vinyl. And I'm just going to say it. They're 00:37:35.099 --> 00:37:37.320 going to put out CDs in the future. I hope you 00:37:37.320 --> 00:37:39.840 do. I sure as hell hope you do. And be on the 00:37:39.840 --> 00:37:41.760 lookout for when hinder rolls through your town 00:37:41.760 --> 00:37:45.130 because they are always killer live. Cody, I 00:37:45.130 --> 00:37:47.469 honestly hope it's not another six years before 00:37:47.469 --> 00:37:50.130 our next sit down. Thank you so much for joining 00:37:50.130 --> 00:37:52.070 me on My Weekly Mixtape. This has been a blast. 00:37:52.710 --> 00:37:55.030 Always a pleasure, man. Thank you so much. 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