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What's happening, this is C .J. Pierce from Drowning

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Pool, and you're listening to My Weekly Mixtape,

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right here with Brian Colburn. Get your sound.

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Welcome to My Weekly Mixtape, a podcast that

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takes the classic mixtape approach. to building

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a modern playlist. I'm your host, Brian Colburn.

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With this year's concert season heating up, I'm

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excited to kick off a new style of My Weekly

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Mixtape episode. And joining me for this inaugural

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discussion is the incredible C .J. Pierce of

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Jarning Pool. C .J., welcome to the show, my

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friend. Hey, what's happening, Brian? Thanks

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for having me. Since this is your first time

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on My Weekly Mixtape, I'd like to start by asking

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you my first -time guest question, which is...

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What does the word mixtape mean to you? The word

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mixtape? Yes, sir. I was making mixtapes back

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in the day with my, you know, I still have my

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cassette tapes, man. No, it's just, you know,

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putting your favorite songs on it back in the

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day, you know, especially with me, I went and

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dated all of it, had albums and cassette tapes

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came out. It was a new hot thing. But, you know,

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your different favorite songs from your favorite

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bands, you put them all together on one tape

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or it's high school and you like some lady like,

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hey, I made you this mixtape. Check out my jams.

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There you go. Well, as I teased at the top of

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the episode, tonight's discussion is something

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I haven't done before. And I'm really excited

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to see where this leads, because during the playlist

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curation episodes of my weekly mixtape, guests

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and I build mixtapes or playlists based on that

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episode's band or theme. But tonight we're taking

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a new spin on that. And while we're still talking

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kind of playlists, there's a twist. And CJ, that

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is if I were to give you carte blanche to build

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your own set list for your ultimate concert featuring

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any bands, any songs, any eras, zero limitation.

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Right. That's what we're going to explore tonight.

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But before we do that, as someone who's been

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a part of putting together drowning pool set

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lists night after night for the last several

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decades. What would you say the art of building

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the perfect concert set list is? For us, man,

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you know, as of late, the last few years, especially

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having Ryan McCombs back in the band, we've kind

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of taken more of the Grateful Dead approach where

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we have kind of a sort of a guideline list, if

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you will. But we'll be on stage and somebody

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will call out a different song. Or, you know,

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it's like tonight, the vibe kind of feels like

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this. So instead of doing this one song, we'll

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do another one. We kind of huddle up and get

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on stage and just keep it natural and organic

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like that. You know, there's always some staples

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in it, of course, that's in the set list. But

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it's always somewhat of a little bit of a challenge,

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but we work great together. We kind of put it

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together as a band as a whole. And again, even

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when we have the set list together, we'll go

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on stage and we'll still sometimes we'll just

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play something else or something we haven't played

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in five years. Like, hey, let's just play this

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one tonight. Really? All right, here we go. So

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it keeps it fun for us, especially for fans.

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We have a lot of fans, especially on stage. Sometimes

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we'll travel to two or three different shows.

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So you definitely get something a little different

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every night. So it's not the same. You know,

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we're not like Maritou. a click and all this

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program stuff. We're pretty much four guys just

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plugging and playing. Well, as someone who's

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seen Drowning Pool several times over the years,

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I know there's a lot of different eras of this

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band. How do you at least attempt to strike a

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balance between the contributions from Dave,

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Jason Jones, Ryan, and Jason Moreno's 10 years

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with the band? Yeah, it's pretty wild. Ryan's

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been great with that. You know, we would definitely

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play songs from different eras and different

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singers. you know that's something you know everyone's

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kind of had to step in since dave williams and

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uh you know you know we pay you know respect

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to dave williams doing a lot of songs at the

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center record but uh ryan's been great doing

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stuff you know we do some songs that we have

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with jason gong jones and some stuff with um

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jason moreno so the jasons so and again we mix

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it up especially per tour or per night you know

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we're always trying to bring something fresh

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into the set list for if it was me i like to

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play them all yeah i'll sit up stage all night

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long seven hours and go for it but um We have

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that time window. We got to fit it all in. There's

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only so many songs, right? Yeah. Now, before

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we get to your ultimate concert set list, I'd

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like to remind listeners that if you like what

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slash myweeklymixtape. Now, CJ, even though you're

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not crafting a drowning pool set list tonight,

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the pressure's still kind of on because you're

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now in the audience, and you're gonna... Explain

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to the My Weekly Mixtape listeners the ultimate

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C .J. Pierce concert. 12 songs, 12 different

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artists. The sky's the limit. So the magical

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moment hits. The lights cut out. You're in the

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front row. The energy's through the roof. Who

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is the first artist or band to take the stage?

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And what song is opening up your ultimate concert?

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Well, I'm going to go off of... There was Lollapalooza

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back in like 92, 93, 94. And that left a big

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impression on me, man. It was all these bands

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playing. There's this band called Rage Against

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the Machine I've never heard of. Tool goes on

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second, right? So it's like, you know, it's this

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new, you know, Alice in Chains were headlining.

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I think Primus was up there at the time as well.

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So for me, it's, you know, the first time I saw

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Rage and they came out and they played Killing

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in the Name of and it just, I was there with

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my friends, my high school friends, and we just

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went apeshit crazy nuts, man. It was awesome.

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So that song, you know, still to this day, just

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brings the energy to have some some like, you

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know, the opening band right back in 94. Look

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at him now, man. Just amazing. Still, you know,

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bringing the hits. That song gets me going every

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time, man. Oh, easily one of my favorite albums

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of the 90s. And when it comes to heavier music.

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It's definitely a top 10 for me. I don't think,

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honestly, you could have rattled off any track

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from the self -titled Rage Against, you could

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have said bomb track, freedom, any song. And

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I would be like, yes, I agree with that. Perfect.

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Like what a way to open things up and to get

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the crowd in the palm of your hand. Yeah. It's

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hard to pick one from any of these artists, but

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yeah, that one just, you know, the attitude in

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that song is, you know, just that it just drilled

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into you and just the energy, the riffs, man,

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just everybody's jumping at every freaking song

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out of Rage Against. All right, so the crowd

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now has that opening number. Where do we go for

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the second song of the night? So I went for this

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song, second song of the night, again, following

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with, again, some of my first experiences going

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to concerts and just seeing these amazing bands.

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And again, the second band on that one, and I'll

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get away from the structure here, is Tool. And

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I can pick anything from Tool. I mean, it was

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the first record when they did that tour. But

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there's something about the pot. I still love

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this song. I'm known for playing guitar, but

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I play bass. I play a lot of different instruments.

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And as of late, in between doing stuff with Drowning

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Pool, my wife and I would go out and just do

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a couple cover songs at the local bar here. So

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we just started playing the pot recently. So

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it's just a fun song to play. All the songs are

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amazing. Anything from Tool is amazing. But that

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one, just the technical art to that one. And

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it's another song that just has this head groove

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jam to it. It just gets me pumped up. Have you

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seen them recently in the last several runs where

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they do the no phone policy at the shows? Yeah,

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I think that's great. I'm all for it. We saw

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the 2019 tour and when the lights went out and

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the arena was pitch dark, I elbowed my buddy

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and said, when's the last time you've seen this?

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And he said, at least two decades. And it was

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such a moment for us. Yeah, I mean, they put

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on such a great show. They put a lot of time

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into the artistry, just the whole backdrop. And

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it's the experience. So, I mean, you know, nobody

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likes to be told what to do. And again, I come

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from the generation that didn't even have these

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phones at the time. And it's great to capture

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all that. And the last song, they do say, go

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ahead and videotape. But I think he did it in

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the right way where, you know, it's like, look,

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you came here, you bought the ticket, you know,

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just enjoy the show. And then after that, you

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get back on your phone, man. So, I mean, I'm,

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you know, to each his own, but that's definitely

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an art -type band, and you don't want to miss,

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I don't want to miss any of it. So I've seen

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them on every single tour. We did some shows

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with them in the past. So, you know, I get another

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one of those bands where you can just listen

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to anything and nothing. That's cool. It's awesome.

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Like, ACDC gave me another background, and it's

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not a bad song. 100%. Now, when Drowning Pool

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is out on the road, do you guys have a preference

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when it comes to cell phones in the crowd? I

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always ask people to pull them out, especially

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when we play Tearaway. Brian actually... has

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everybody pull out and put lights up on their

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phone. Man, we just did, we just got off tour

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with Godsmack and P .O .D. It was a lot of awesome

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shows in Europe and sold out arena shows and

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everybody pulls out their phone to put the light,

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the lighter up instead of like you're filming

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it or whatever. But when you see all of it, it's

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pitch black when we start the song and just see

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all the lights on from the phones. It's like

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the old school lighter kind of effect, if you

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will. So, hey, people keep in mind to have a

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good time, man. Do whatever you want. Go watch

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the show. Call your mom. I'm cool. You know what

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I mean? Putting the cell phone light on is a

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hell of a lot easier than back in the eighties

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and nineties when you had the lighter, because

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I mean, how many times did you burn your thumb?

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I mean, come on. I'll put the letters up and

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that's it. But so it works and it looks really

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cool, man. And we got a lot of cool video and

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shots from that. So I love that aspect of it.

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You know, we try to, you know, it's a rock show,

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man. We just all have to have a good time. Amen.

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All right. So we have a one, two Lollapalooza

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punch here. Where are we going for track three?

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Track three. All right. Let me think here. I'm

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looking through. Oh, man. I love so many freaking

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bands. All right. So there's another band that

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I absolutely love. And the first time I saw it,

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it's Korn. I have a song from Korn. And Korn

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has shown me, again, I'm all about the intensity

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and the jam. And they have so many heavy songs.

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And another band, I've seen them on every single

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album tour. We play with them. But this song,

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Alone I Break, that they have. There's something

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about that song. It's just, it's off the beating

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path for them. But it's heavy in its own, like.

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it's got this mid -tempo like creepy vibe to

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it but uh it's just intense without the music

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being just in your face intense it just gets

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me like that for some strange reason is it's

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probably one of their slower songs um but just

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something about that song man it just grabs me

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it's just as hard as like everything else that

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they have that's heavy going with something off

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of untouchables is such an interesting pick it's

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an underrated corn album if you ask me overall

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And sadly, Alone I Break is just one of those

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songs that the band, I don't want to say abandoned,

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but in the beginning, they tried playing it a

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couple of times live and then it kind of just

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dropped off. I'm catching one of the dates at

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MetLife Stadium in New Jersey this fall with

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System of a Down. Yeah, nice. I would love to

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see them brush this off, man. This is such, it

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makes this set so dynamic. Right, it's just one

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of those, it just, it puts you in that mind frame.

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Like you are here, you slam and. you're having

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a great time playing all the bangers, all the

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jammers. And then it's like, just that song just

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has this vibe. It's still heavy, but just has

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that vibe to it. Almost like, what song is it

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from Deftones that they play all the time? It's

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just one of those songs that just sets, that

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just kind of connects everybody to a different

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vibe. You thinking like Digital Bath here? Yeah,

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something like that, man. Like there's a few

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songs at Deftones that just go off into like

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this kind of mellow kind of part and they come

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back because, you know, another band is super

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heavy. Of course. All right. We've got Rage Against

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the Machine. Tool. Korn, I'm catching a vibe

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here. Where are we going for track four? All

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right, track four. We're going to go straight

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to heavy on this one, man. I've always been a

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Slipknot fan. Nice. We were touring with them

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once. I was in the pit. Because at that time,

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early on, I was still going out there and getting

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nuts. And I got totally trampled. Almost couldn't

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play the show the next day. Oh, man. So everyone's

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like, dude, you can't be out in the pit for Slipknot.

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We've got to put on a show as well. So that's

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kind of when I slacked off on jumping out, going

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crazy in the pit days, if you will. But yeah,

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dude, Duality, I love all their songs, but that's

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another one of those songs, like, if I'm getting

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ready to go out and do something, I want to get

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pumped up. Even sometimes before we go on stage,

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man, we'll stick Duality on and just go nuts

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to that song. So it's a jammer. Oh, it is. I've

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had the chance to catch Slipknot many times over

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the years, and I'm so glad to have this song

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in the fold, because then I might catch some

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slack. from rabid Slipknot fans here, as much

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as I love the heaviness of the self -titled and

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of Iowa, obviously. Volume three is such a sweet

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spot for me musically in terms of heft and a

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melodic side of the band. And I think it's such

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a balance. And I just love the fact that this

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was the song choice because it's got all the

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heft that you expect from Slipknot. But there's

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also this, I don't want to say. accessibility

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to it, but it's something that, even if you're

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not a rabid Slipknot fan, I feel like it's a

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gateway drug that could really bring you into

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the world of their music. Yeah, it's just one

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of the, you know, another one of those just jamming

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tunes that just grab and get you going, no matter

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who you are. When that comes on, it's just like,

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wait, you know, like, oh, shit, my parents, ah,

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this is the only thing that, ah, you know, I've

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been slamming. It's just great. Is this what

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I think it is? Yes. I think I'm going to use

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this whole set list before we go on stage every

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night. This is, I like it. I like where we're

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going. I mean, it's... Again, picking some of

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my favorite tunes. I was going to say, I think

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you should. And if Drowning Pool ever decides

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to do a cover songs album, so far, I think this

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would kick a lot of ass. Yeah, some of these

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I have covered. I just played Killing the Name

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Of with Leo Marocchioli over in Italy this past

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couple weeks ago in the middle of a tour. We

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had the one day off from tour with Godsmack,

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and he was playing in the same town. So I went

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out to a show and just jumped on stage and played

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Killing the Name Of with him. Awesome. From what

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I remember, I know I was pretty lit, but I had

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a great time with it. Well, what do we have now

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for track five coming out of Slipknot? Coming

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out of Slipknot, you know, I grew up Pantera,

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friends and family with Dom and Vinny and Rex

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and Phil. But it was a hard choice to pick a

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favorite one because, dude, I love all of them.

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You know, we do cover Cowboys from Hell sometimes,

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you know, to play Walk. I always stay up on my

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chops on these songs. But, you know, I was thinking

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long and hard about it. My first time when I

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really heard the first impression that it had.

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When I first listened to Cowboys from Hell and

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when Domination came on, it's just so freaking

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heavy. It's like the riff is like punching somebody

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in the face. And then the freaking solo on that

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thing. I mean, all dime solos are just genius.

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But to sum up that Domination, man, that was

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one of the songs that I was still learning how

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to play guitar and getting to my chops. It was

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one of those things that once I heard that, I'm

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like, made you want to put it down. Be like,

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all right, you got it, man. Kings of Metal. You

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won. Without a doubt. But it's an influence,

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man. I could definitely hear that. And I want

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to bring up a memory of Drowning Pool that I

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have. And I'm going to go all the way back to

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2001 on the Ozzfest tour. I was at the Home Dell,

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New Jersey show at the PNC Bank Arts Center,

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which around here, when people mention 2001 Ozzfest,

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it's infamous because it was the Papa Roach mud

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throwing incident. Right. On that same day, I

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caught former guest on the show. Brian Scott

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of union underground, obviously drowning pool

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was on that bill mud vein. It was like a who's

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who of the new metal scene that year. And I don't

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know if it was the entire band, but during union

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underground set, I know Dave came out because

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he was wearing a Texas flag wrapped around that.

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I'm not sure if you did as well, but there was

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definitely a drowning pool and union underground

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collaboration of cowboys from hell. Can you kind

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of talk about how all that came together? yeah

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that whole tour man that whole time was great

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i remember pnc specifically as well man that

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place is awesome um yeah dave you know dave's

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it's you know dave stage was a nickname like

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he always jumped up one stage just about everybody

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because he just loved to sing man he was all

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about it and um yeah you're on the ground that's

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that's why it's us the south texas you know we're

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dallas and then down you know houston san antonio

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area so um friends and family for life dude these

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guys are still rocking out but yeah dave was

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like that man we always want to Especially that

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tour. It was so wild. We'd all jump on each other's

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stage and play a song with each other. Same thing

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with Elias and Nonpoint. We've done stuff with

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them as well, the same kind of stuff. So it's

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just awesome to have that band camaraderie, if

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you will, with all these bands. It's still to

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this day. I just saw them not that long ago.

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You and Underground came through Dallas. Yeah,

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I feel like the bands that came out of the early

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2000s are very much a community. I really feel

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like there's a lot of love and a lot of respect

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between all the bands, especially coming from

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even something very close to home for you in

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Drowning Pool is the fact that Ryan is able to

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balance his work with Soil as well as Drowning

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Pool. Yeah, man, it's been a while, two years

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for us, for all bands. And we're all friends

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and family like that. Again, you know, there

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was in between us for after Ryan was with us

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for a year, you know, Soil did a tour and it

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came through Dallas. And it was fun for me because

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I wasn't playing that night. I just got to sit

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back and drink and watch the show, you know.

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And they did a kick -ass show. You know, I love

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Ryan's voice and soil. They do their style of

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thing and we do our style in the drowning pool.

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But you're right. It's like a family and friend

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vibe. You know, it's the same thing we just have

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with Godsmack and P .O .D. I love that it's like

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that, man. Everybody gets along from the crew

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to the band to just the whole production. So

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put on a rock show. Exactly. And we are at the

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halfway point of your ultimate concert. What

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is track six here? Track six. You know, not to

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go back to the Lollapalooza thing, it's even

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before that. There's a place, I grew up in New

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Orleans, and it's a place called Tipitina's that

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I saw a lot of bands in the 90s. That was kind

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of like the place to play. And I went and saw

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Primus with a friend of mine before they had

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blown up. I mean, literally, the same thing with

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Korn. I saw Korn there when there was like 50

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people. You know, who is this band? Who is Primus?

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I have to interrupt for one second because I

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remember, and people don't believe this when

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I tell them this story, but my buddy... went

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to Maxwell's in Hoboken to catch Korn and Sugar

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Ray on a dual bill in the early 90s because Sugar

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Ray's first album, Lemonade and Brownies, was

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much more in line with nu metal and the rap rock

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sound that Korn was doing at the time. And the

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bill made sense on paper. When I tell people

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about that show now, they look at me, they go,

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there's no way Sugar Ray and Korn toured together.

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I said, oh yeah. Yeah, it's the older stuff.

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So he was always cool, man. You know, I hung

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out with him a while ago. But again, I don't

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know what he's up to now, but I'll get peached

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again. Family and friends vibe. But yeah, dude,

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that just Primus, you know, just a whole nother

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sound at nuts. And there's that song, especially,

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you know, Jerry's race with our, just that riff

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on that. I mean, that slamming it's heavy as

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can be, but it's still got the funk groove to

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it. And of course, that's Claypool with his,

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with his wacky tone, man, just makes it fun,

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fun music. But dude, sick town to guys. When

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I talk about, favorite bass players on the planet.

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My brain goes to Les Claypool. It goes to Billy

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Sheehan. It goes to Flea. But the magic and energy

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that Les brings to his performances, whether

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it's Primus, the Flying Frog Brigade, Oysterhead,

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or even his solo stuff, it's instantly recognizable.

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You know when you hear his bass, the tone, the

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sound, and then obviously his voice. It's just,

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it's so unique. The only way to describe it is

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it's less. It's less. It's less. It's unique

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and original. It's amazing art, music art, if

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you will, the way he plays, man. Couldn't agree

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more. And when I tell people, like, oh, you know

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Primus, and they go, no, I don't really know

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a lot of Primus. As soon as I put on Jerry Was

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a Race Chord Driver and you hear the opening

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bass line, they're like, oh, I know that song.

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Yeah. Dude, sick line, too. Sick bass line. Back

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when we got the phone, I'm going to pick up the

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bass and rock out on it just because I have it

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in a minute. Grab it and just start jamming now.

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Grab it and start jamming now, right? I know

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I have this bad habit like that. Right before

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I left for just I went to grab a couple things

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from the guitar center and I bought a guitar.

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I got a Gretsch and then same thing when I just

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got back home because I got two small guitars

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for the kids. Just going to buy some straps.

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But I had this fat ass bass, bro. So I had this

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Epiphone acoustic bass. So I got that. Nice.

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There's all the same bass as well. We just play

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everything up in the house, man. My house is

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like, looks like guitar center, really. The home

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studio and then the garage is the studio. But

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all things music, man. That's my life. Exactly.

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All right. Well, we're officially starting the

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second half of your ultimate concert here. So

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let's say we had an intermission, if you will.

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Where would we go for the second half of the

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night? So I'm sticking with, again, all the songs

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that influenced me and just have these jamming

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vibes and jamming riffs in it. Another band that's

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going to be going out again, if they're not already

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out, a band called Snot. um yes and uh dude that

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whole that first that record jesus um it was

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why it's a great story so you know we're still

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local band early 90s um late 90s whatever and

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we had a van we toured in and it was dave williams

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man he had this cassette tape and it's not cassette

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tape it's like you gotta get ready to do road

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trip to go play in oklahoma and uh it's like

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you gotta use you guys get in the van and he

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pops the tape in and he plays stupid from it's

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not and it's like just that jamming riff on it

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man we're just all in a van jamming on the way

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to go play a show you know Local band heroes

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going to Oklahoma. Yeah, that's awesome. But

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I'll never forget that, just that vibe and that

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energy that they bring to the table and hearing

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it the first time because Dave had the cassette.

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I've seen footage of Snotts' recent shows with

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Andy Knapp on vocals, and obviously nobody is

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ever going to replace Lynn Strait. and nobody

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expects anybody to. But I was kind of blown away

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by the energy and passion he's bringing to these

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performances, and Snot sounds completely reinvigorated

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on this run. I can't wait for them to get to

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the East Coast. Yeah. I want to see a set myself,

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man, because this is another band I didn't get

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to see, but big influence and great songs. Maybe

00:21:50.630 --> 00:21:53.950
a Snot and Drowning Pool tour would be pretty

00:21:53.950 --> 00:21:56.170
killer. Yeah. I'm going to make some calls when

00:21:56.170 --> 00:21:57.509
I get on the phone with you. That sounds awesome.

00:21:57.880 --> 00:21:59.599
As long as it can be like, you know, promoted

00:21:59.599 --> 00:22:01.940
by my weekly mixtape. Oh, yeah, man. I'll wear

00:22:01.940 --> 00:22:05.119
the shirt and everything. There you go. All right.

00:22:05.339 --> 00:22:08.039
Track eight. Where are we going from Snot? Track

00:22:08.039 --> 00:22:10.240
eight. This is a song that I kind of rediscovered

00:22:10.240 --> 00:22:12.880
not that long ago. You know, every now and then

00:22:12.880 --> 00:22:14.740
when we do short runs, like a two -week run,

00:22:14.779 --> 00:22:16.359
a weekend run, we'll just still just take the

00:22:16.359 --> 00:22:18.319
van out. I like driving the van. I still like

00:22:18.319 --> 00:22:19.859
keeping it old school. I mean, you know, we did

00:22:19.859 --> 00:22:21.880
big tours. We're very fortunate to be in the

00:22:21.880 --> 00:22:23.279
tour bus. I'm grateful and thankful that we're

00:22:23.279 --> 00:22:25.440
there. But I still like driving, man. I still.

00:22:25.839 --> 00:22:28.119
And it gives me, like, playing shows and driving

00:22:28.119 --> 00:22:30.980
to the next venue. I stay up at night and I listen

00:22:30.980 --> 00:22:33.359
to whole catalogs of bands. It's, like, my time

00:22:33.359 --> 00:22:35.460
to really get to listen and re -listen. Because,

00:22:35.519 --> 00:22:36.779
like, pretty much all day, instead of playing

00:22:36.779 --> 00:22:39.380
a show, I'm just doing my own thing. So in that

00:22:39.380 --> 00:22:41.259
process, man, this band came out. I forgot. It's

00:22:41.259 --> 00:22:42.960
Jimmy's Chicken Shack. Yes. And a song called

00:22:42.960 --> 00:22:45.319
High. And I forgot, you know, again, it popped

00:22:45.319 --> 00:22:47.759
up on just out of nowhere a few months ago. And

00:22:47.759 --> 00:22:49.940
it's just such, again, another jamming riff that

00:22:49.940 --> 00:22:52.529
I think, you know, it's early. new metal -ish

00:22:52.529 --> 00:22:55.069
style before that became the name and the style,

00:22:55.170 --> 00:22:56.849
if you will. I think that's kind of early inception.

00:22:57.190 --> 00:22:58.910
But that song, man, it just has some kind of

00:22:58.910 --> 00:23:00.630
another one of those just slamming songs that

00:23:00.630 --> 00:23:02.589
just get you bouncing. And I was listening to

00:23:02.589 --> 00:23:04.470
it. It's another thing, you know, it came on.

00:23:04.490 --> 00:23:05.250
I was like, I haven't heard it in forever. I

00:23:05.250 --> 00:23:06.589
played like three or four times in a row. You

00:23:06.589 --> 00:23:08.029
can play your favorite songs or whatever again,

00:23:08.069 --> 00:23:09.589
man. So I'm just going down the highway at three

00:23:09.589 --> 00:23:10.650
o 'clock in the morning. Everybody's trying to

00:23:10.650 --> 00:23:13.549
sleep, but I'm just jamming. I'm not going to

00:23:13.549 --> 00:23:15.430
lie, dude. I'm so glad you brought up Jimmy's

00:23:15.430 --> 00:23:17.789
Chicken Shack because they're based out of Maryland.

00:23:17.869 --> 00:23:20.809
So being from New Jersey. This was kind of like

00:23:20.809 --> 00:23:22.670
a second home for them. So we got to kind of

00:23:22.670 --> 00:23:25.089
see the rise of Jimmy's Chicken Shack through

00:23:25.089 --> 00:23:28.950
the 90s. And they're so underrated. I feel like

00:23:28.950 --> 00:23:31.670
so many people should know who this group is.

00:23:31.829 --> 00:23:34.250
So to have this brought out tonight is such a

00:23:34.250 --> 00:23:36.950
refreshing thing to hear. Yeah, man. That's another

00:23:36.950 --> 00:23:40.210
one of those groups that are just amazing. Some

00:23:40.210 --> 00:23:41.329
fall between the cracks. Just don't get that

00:23:41.329 --> 00:23:43.690
recognition like you're saying, man. But that's

00:23:43.690 --> 00:23:46.119
one of them. That's sick. I'd say a double dose

00:23:46.119 --> 00:23:48.720
of underrated bands between snot and Jimmy's

00:23:48.720 --> 00:23:51.859
chicken shack to start side B. So where do we

00:23:51.859 --> 00:23:54.319
go from here? From here, we're going to go to

00:23:54.319 --> 00:23:56.740
a mainstream thing because, um, you know, again,

00:23:56.839 --> 00:23:58.900
just going with the intensity and just a minor

00:23:58.900 --> 00:24:01.660
show. And, um, you know, it's another band. I

00:24:01.660 --> 00:24:03.480
mean, we all know it's Metallica and, you know,

00:24:03.480 --> 00:24:05.099
they're another, you know, another Kings and

00:24:05.099 --> 00:24:08.000
metal and, you know, back, back when I first

00:24:08.000 --> 00:24:11.349
heard. master puppets it's like a you know it's

00:24:11.349 --> 00:24:13.430
a friend of mine and he he was just you know

00:24:13.430 --> 00:24:14.589
it's high school's lunchtime and he's got the

00:24:14.589 --> 00:24:16.009
cassette thing and he's jamming out i'm like

00:24:16.009 --> 00:24:18.150
what is that it's like it's a band called metallica

00:24:18.150 --> 00:24:19.609
you got to check this out so let me borrow the

00:24:19.609 --> 00:24:22.150
cassette tape and just it opens up with battery

00:24:22.150 --> 00:24:24.349
and just you know pretty acoustic guitar and

00:24:24.349 --> 00:24:25.769
you're thinking oh man this is some cool stuff

00:24:25.769 --> 00:24:28.910
and then just on your face just all triplets

00:24:28.910 --> 00:24:31.349
you know galloping riffs i'm like holy shit what

00:24:31.349 --> 00:24:33.470
just happened to my life so um it was one of

00:24:33.470 --> 00:24:35.710
those life and changing moments that uh you know

00:24:35.710 --> 00:24:38.000
you just never forget so That's one of the songs,

00:24:38.160 --> 00:24:40.299
you know, there's again, millions of, dude, so

00:24:40.299 --> 00:24:42.220
many great Metallica songs and, and, and probably

00:24:42.220 --> 00:24:44.059
like, like all of his artists feel better songs

00:24:44.059 --> 00:24:47.000
since then. But, um, that was like my first impression,

00:24:47.000 --> 00:24:48.740
first thing I ever heard from him. But yeah,

00:24:48.779 --> 00:24:51.720
man, I, you know, to hear that live, it's freaking

00:24:51.720 --> 00:24:54.599
sick. That's one of my favorites. Metallica is

00:24:54.599 --> 00:24:56.680
a top band for me. I've seen them so many times.

00:24:56.720 --> 00:24:59.549
When you talk about bands that just. know how

00:24:59.549 --> 00:25:02.289
to open an album with authority. I mean, let's

00:25:02.289 --> 00:25:04.710
just look at the five first albums, because anytime

00:25:04.710 --> 00:25:07.029
you go past the Black Album, people love to run

00:25:07.029 --> 00:25:09.390
their mouths. But Hit the Lights from Kill Em

00:25:09.390 --> 00:25:11.430
All, Fight Fire with Fire from Ride the Lightning.

00:25:11.529 --> 00:25:14.410
You just mentioned Battery from Master of Puppets,

00:25:14.450 --> 00:25:17.150
Blackened from Injustice for All, and Enter Sandman

00:25:17.150 --> 00:25:19.890
from the Black Album. Home run after home run

00:25:19.890 --> 00:25:22.130
after home run. Yeah, everyone knows. And then

00:25:22.130 --> 00:25:24.369
I'll jump even into the later albums. I'll just

00:25:24.369 --> 00:25:27.109
say it. Frantic is the best song on St. Anger.

00:25:27.500 --> 00:25:29.019
Right. We were talking about that the other day.

00:25:29.160 --> 00:25:31.099
We were actually listening to it, just going

00:25:31.099 --> 00:25:32.460
over, you know, again, when we have some time.

00:25:32.480 --> 00:25:34.599
And I love this with our band, like some dressing

00:25:34.599 --> 00:25:36.460
room time, which is rare to have some time. We'll

00:25:36.460 --> 00:25:38.980
get on a subject like that and just put a whole

00:25:38.980 --> 00:25:41.140
record on and just listen to it. So because right

00:25:41.140 --> 00:25:43.380
now we are back in writing mode. We're going

00:25:43.380 --> 00:25:45.019
to record it, try to get the rest of the songs

00:25:45.019 --> 00:25:47.900
done for a new album with Brian. So that's what

00:25:47.900 --> 00:25:49.720
I've been doing since I got home in the next

00:25:49.720 --> 00:25:51.460
couple of weeks, just write mode and listen into

00:25:51.460 --> 00:25:53.819
songs, get influence and do our own thing, man.

00:25:53.940 --> 00:25:55.900
So Metallica is definitely always an influence

00:25:55.900 --> 00:25:58.819
for all of us, man. Of course, of course. So

00:25:58.819 --> 00:26:01.700
where are we going out of battery? So I'm going

00:26:01.700 --> 00:26:04.180
to go with this one because this is another song

00:26:04.180 --> 00:26:07.019
that, dude, this band, another underrated band,

00:26:07.099 --> 00:26:09.960
big time. Head P .E., man. They have a lot of

00:26:09.960 --> 00:26:11.640
great songs, but Renegade, there's something

00:26:11.640 --> 00:26:13.839
about that song. Again, another song that just

00:26:13.839 --> 00:26:16.220
gets me pumped, man. That's like, I love that

00:26:16.220 --> 00:26:18.099
song when they play it live. Funny story, so

00:26:18.099 --> 00:26:19.400
again, my lady and I were getting ready. This

00:26:19.400 --> 00:26:21.099
was years ago when we first started seeing each

00:26:21.099 --> 00:26:23.890
other. And she puts on Renegade because... you

00:26:23.890 --> 00:26:25.430
know, since they were getting ready to play here

00:26:25.430 --> 00:26:27.650
in Dallas like the next week and and, you know,

00:26:27.650 --> 00:26:28.670
we're still getting to know each other. It's

00:26:28.670 --> 00:26:30.410
just like, would you go see this band called

00:26:30.410 --> 00:26:32.549
Head P .E. with me? I'm like, you love Head P

00:26:32.549 --> 00:26:34.750
.E.? I love Head P .E. It's like, I know Head

00:26:34.750 --> 00:26:37.390
P .E. We play with Head P .E. So that's like,

00:26:37.390 --> 00:26:38.849
you know, that's how we like when you get ready

00:26:38.849 --> 00:26:40.869
to go out. That's the jam I put on in the car

00:26:40.869 --> 00:26:42.609
when I take off the house. No matter what show

00:26:42.609 --> 00:26:44.869
I'm going to, we listen to Renegade first. And

00:26:44.869 --> 00:26:47.730
I do. I love Head P .E., man. They're definitely

00:26:47.730 --> 00:26:49.690
one of my top bands. Oh, they're incredible.

00:26:49.809 --> 00:26:52.329
I can't picture a Head P .E. show without the

00:26:52.329 --> 00:26:54.869
one -two punch of Bartender and Renegade closing

00:26:54.869 --> 00:26:59.190
out a set. And now, if I'm not mistaken, you're

00:26:59.190 --> 00:27:00.849
going to get a little bit of extra time with

00:27:00.849 --> 00:27:02.710
Head P .E. this fall because you're going out

00:27:02.710 --> 00:27:05.470
with them and Spineshank over in the U .K., correct?

00:27:05.849 --> 00:27:07.490
Yeah, we finally, I was just talking to Jared

00:27:07.490 --> 00:27:09.910
the other day about that. We just, all that stuff's

00:27:09.910 --> 00:27:12.029
obviously solidifying out now. But we did a little

00:27:12.029 --> 00:27:14.549
bit of touring together with Saliva. No, it wasn't

00:27:14.549 --> 00:27:17.430
Saliva. I'm sorry. It was El Nino. and a few

00:27:17.430 --> 00:27:20.329
other bands a couple years ago. And again, they

00:27:20.329 --> 00:27:21.549
were on tour with us for a little bit. And I

00:27:21.549 --> 00:27:22.970
just love those dudes, man. They let me come

00:27:22.970 --> 00:27:24.950
out and play a couple songs on their set. I guess

00:27:24.950 --> 00:27:26.250
it's this adrenaline thing. I don't know, man.

00:27:26.329 --> 00:27:29.450
But I made my way out to their set and played

00:27:29.450 --> 00:27:32.710
Renegade with them. But yeah, man, they just

00:27:32.710 --> 00:27:34.690
kill it, dude. I love it. It's a band. The cool

00:27:34.690 --> 00:27:36.250
thing about touring is it's like I get to be

00:27:36.250 --> 00:27:38.430
at a free head PE show if they're on tour with

00:27:38.430 --> 00:27:40.369
us every night. I get to watch them play every

00:27:40.369 --> 00:27:43.130
night on top of me playing my set. So yeah, I'm

00:27:43.130 --> 00:27:44.289
excited as hell to be touring with them again,

00:27:44.349 --> 00:27:46.750
dude. They put on a killer show. So much energy.

00:27:47.250 --> 00:27:50.869
Fantastic. Well, we're getting close to the end

00:27:50.869 --> 00:27:53.509
of the set here. We're nearing the finale. We

00:27:53.509 --> 00:27:56.809
got two songs left. We could call one the set

00:27:56.809 --> 00:27:59.390
closer and then track 12, the encore. Where do

00:27:59.390 --> 00:28:01.890
we go for track 11? I'm going to go to these,

00:28:02.009 --> 00:28:04.869
again, recently influenced, but we've been friends

00:28:04.869 --> 00:28:08.410
for 25 plus years, man. And I'm going with P

00:28:08.410 --> 00:28:11.349
.O .D. South Town because that song is jamming.

00:28:11.490 --> 00:28:15.220
I love all those dudes. Sonny's great. marcus

00:28:15.220 --> 00:28:17.480
is great freaking trade like all those dudes

00:28:17.480 --> 00:28:19.640
and the drummers act they have now man powerhouse

00:28:19.640 --> 00:28:21.660
so great dudes great friends but their their

00:28:21.660 --> 00:28:24.359
set has a vibe to it but something about south

00:28:24.359 --> 00:28:26.279
town man whenever that song comes on dude i'm

00:28:26.279 --> 00:28:28.000
just like stomping on the floor just anything

00:28:28.000 --> 00:28:29.640
that's around me it's gonna just get hit man

00:28:29.640 --> 00:28:33.599
i'm in the south towns so great dudes um they

00:28:33.599 --> 00:28:35.839
put on dude they have hits for days too man i

00:28:35.839 --> 00:28:37.299
think another band that's probably a little bit

00:28:37.299 --> 00:28:40.440
under underrated as well Oh, God, yeah. Even

00:28:40.440 --> 00:28:42.480
their greatest hits album, when you look at it,

00:28:42.500 --> 00:28:44.039
you're like, every single one of these songs

00:28:44.039 --> 00:28:47.359
was an absolute smash. But you don't think about

00:28:47.359 --> 00:28:50.619
P .O .D. as one of those big chart -topping bands,

00:28:50.779 --> 00:28:53.799
but that whole run between Southtown and Alive

00:28:53.799 --> 00:28:57.059
and that entire, those two album cycles, they

00:28:57.059 --> 00:28:58.940
were kind of on top of the world for a while

00:28:58.940 --> 00:29:01.039
there. Yeah, they got tons of hits in them. I'm

00:29:01.039 --> 00:29:02.180
hoping to do some more stuff with them. That

00:29:02.180 --> 00:29:03.660
was great to do that run with them and catch

00:29:03.660 --> 00:29:05.880
up and just, again, get to watch their show every

00:29:05.880 --> 00:29:08.869
night for free. Because I'm playing with them.

00:29:09.630 --> 00:29:11.970
See, so not only are you in a band, you're also

00:29:11.970 --> 00:29:13.630
a fan. And that's where the love of this comes

00:29:13.630 --> 00:29:16.130
in. That's where the community of music comes

00:29:16.130 --> 00:29:18.450
into play here. Yeah, that's what it's all about,

00:29:18.509 --> 00:29:20.170
man. I love being at a rock show. And like I'm

00:29:20.170 --> 00:29:22.190
saying, whenever we have a day off on tour, I'll

00:29:22.190 --> 00:29:24.789
go find somebody playing somewhere. Ryan always

00:29:24.789 --> 00:29:26.750
makes fun of me that my band guys are like, dude,

00:29:26.869 --> 00:29:29.970
we did six shows in a row, day off. It doesn't

00:29:29.970 --> 00:29:33.069
matter how many, whatever. It's a day off. I'm

00:29:33.069 --> 00:29:34.609
going to go find a club. There's somebody playing

00:29:34.609 --> 00:29:37.640
somewhere, man. I just love being at the show.

00:29:38.160 --> 00:29:40.839
So I have to ask, before we reveal the last song,

00:29:41.000 --> 00:29:44.539
there's a definite vibe to your ultimate concert.

00:29:45.180 --> 00:29:48.240
Would there be any genres of music that people

00:29:48.240 --> 00:29:50.619
would be shocked to learn that you're also a

00:29:50.619 --> 00:29:55.039
fan of? I'm a huge Fleetwood Mac fan. We played

00:29:55.039 --> 00:29:57.200
a lot of songs just around the house. Again,

00:29:57.299 --> 00:29:58.779
I got a couple of kids and we all played music

00:29:58.779 --> 00:30:00.259
together. Family, Partridge family over here.

00:30:00.420 --> 00:30:02.440
But, you know, I love a lot of 60s, 70s stuff.

00:30:02.599 --> 00:30:04.500
I've always been a Led Zeppelin fan. Who's not

00:30:04.500 --> 00:30:07.019
a Led Zeppelin fan? Yeah, it's still rock and

00:30:07.019 --> 00:30:08.940
roll themed, if you will. But, you know, I grew

00:30:08.940 --> 00:30:11.180
up in New Orleans with jazz and blues. So I still

00:30:11.180 --> 00:30:12.980
love that. I definitely get into, we get into

00:30:12.980 --> 00:30:15.519
these tricks like Amy Winehouse is amazing. Like,

00:30:15.539 --> 00:30:17.960
and I love Motown and my uncle is really big

00:30:17.960 --> 00:30:21.039
into, you know, jazz and Motown stuff. So we'll

00:30:21.039 --> 00:30:22.599
get, we'll go off into that zone at the house.

00:30:22.640 --> 00:30:24.819
People probably don't obviously know that. That's

00:30:24.819 --> 00:30:26.740
why we're discussing it. But yeah, I get into

00:30:26.740 --> 00:30:28.380
all that, man. I mean, my heart's in metal and

00:30:28.380 --> 00:30:30.160
rock and roll and the intensity, but I listen

00:30:30.160 --> 00:30:33.539
to everything, dude. And I'm open to all styles

00:30:33.539 --> 00:30:36.380
and music. And even the newer stuff, there's

00:30:36.380 --> 00:30:38.579
not a lot of newer bands on here, but the new

00:30:38.579 --> 00:30:39.859
stuff that's out now too, man, they're still

00:30:39.859 --> 00:30:42.799
killing it, bringing the metal. All right. Well,

00:30:42.839 --> 00:30:45.799
we are down to your last song of the night. This

00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:48.859
is the encore. This is the closer. What are we

00:30:48.859 --> 00:30:50.819
going to close things out with? I'm going to

00:30:50.819 --> 00:30:52.500
close it out again because I haven't seen this

00:30:52.500 --> 00:30:55.740
recently. And it's amazing all the love and respect

00:30:55.740 --> 00:30:59.000
to Sully from Godsmack because they still bring,

00:30:59.160 --> 00:31:02.160
I mean, their show is amazing. They bring the

00:31:02.160 --> 00:31:04.650
full rock show. um it takes you on a journey

00:31:04.650 --> 00:31:06.130
the lights are amazing the screen was amazing

00:31:06.130 --> 00:31:08.710
the whole introductory coming into it like it's

00:31:08.710 --> 00:31:10.730
only put a lot of thought and time into this

00:31:10.730 --> 00:31:13.130
set up if you haven't seen it recently and they

00:31:13.130 --> 00:31:14.829
they end you know they ended without standalone

00:31:14.829 --> 00:31:17.549
and just everybody's singing along you know i'm

00:31:17.549 --> 00:31:19.069
at the end of the night i'm watching the show

00:31:19.069 --> 00:31:20.690
every night i kind of walk out with the crowd

00:31:20.690 --> 00:31:22.369
we don't hang out talk to people at the merch

00:31:22.369 --> 00:31:24.990
and we're just all singing it so it's just thrilling

00:31:24.990 --> 00:31:27.349
to have man it's a good closer song just because

00:31:27.349 --> 00:31:28.950
i've got to see it every night it's it's you

00:31:28.950 --> 00:31:30.809
know again it's just standard kick -ass rock

00:31:30.809 --> 00:31:34.180
song from sally and the boys So I have to ask,

00:31:34.200 --> 00:31:37.079
did you guys like nickname this tour the Scorpion

00:31:37.079 --> 00:31:39.539
King Tour? Because if you look at that soundtrack,

00:31:39.960 --> 00:31:43.440
it kicks off with I Stand Alone. Then it's P

00:31:43.440 --> 00:31:46.880
.O .D.'s Tweaker remix of Set It Off and then

00:31:46.880 --> 00:31:49.960
Break You by Drowning Pool. Yeah, that's wild.

00:31:50.039 --> 00:31:51.980
You know, I think of it like that. Again, all

00:31:51.980 --> 00:31:53.660
of us being together coming from that era and

00:31:53.660 --> 00:31:55.440
touring together again. I would love to play

00:31:55.440 --> 00:31:57.220
Break You, throw that in the set list because

00:31:57.220 --> 00:31:59.099
we haven't ever actually played it. But we have

00:31:59.099 --> 00:32:01.140
an anniversary tour coming up next year. And

00:32:01.140 --> 00:32:02.680
we want to do a lot of fun stuff. Oh, but didn't

00:32:02.680 --> 00:32:04.680
just leak that out of the bag. Just scratch what

00:32:04.680 --> 00:32:06.319
I just said. You didn't hear that. I was going

00:32:06.319 --> 00:32:08.140
to say, well, I'm going to dig into that a little

00:32:08.140 --> 00:32:09.859
bit because I still have some more questions

00:32:09.859 --> 00:32:13.039
for you. But first, there you have it, folks.

00:32:13.200 --> 00:32:16.680
C .J. Pierce's ultimate concert set list, which,

00:32:16.720 --> 00:32:19.380
as a reminder, kicked off with Rage Against the

00:32:19.380 --> 00:32:22.039
Machines, Killing in the Name, Tools, The Pot,

00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:26.579
Korn's Alone I Break, Slipknot's Duality, Pantera's

00:32:26.579 --> 00:32:29.779
Domination. Primus' Jerry Was a Race Car Driver,

00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:34.500
Snot's Stupid, Jimmy Chicken Shack's High, Metallica's

00:32:34.500 --> 00:32:38.759
Battery, Head P .E.'s Renegade, P .O .D.'s Southtown,

00:32:38.839 --> 00:32:42.779
and Godsmack's I Stand Alone. And remember, you

00:32:42.779 --> 00:32:45.019
could hear a playlist featuring all of these

00:32:45.019 --> 00:32:48.799
songs over on the episode page at myweeklymixtape

00:32:48.799 --> 00:32:52.819
.com. So now we have to talk some Drowning Pool

00:32:52.819 --> 00:32:55.509
here, man. So I guess the best place to start

00:32:55.509 --> 00:32:57.789
would be right here in the present and the band's

00:32:57.789 --> 00:34:13.860
latest single, Madness. And along with that track,

00:34:13.940 --> 00:34:16.300
there's also the one that you guys released towards

00:34:16.300 --> 00:34:20.780
the end of 2024, which is Revolution, The Final

00:34:20.780 --> 00:35:28.789
Amen. Let's hear a clip of that as well. You

00:35:28.789 --> 00:35:30.550
mentioned earlier that you guys are kind of in

00:35:30.550 --> 00:35:33.550
the recording process for the next Drowning Pool

00:35:33.550 --> 00:35:35.670
album. Where do these songs kind of fit into

00:35:35.670 --> 00:35:37.829
that mold? You know, we're going boss of all

00:35:37.829 --> 00:35:39.630
jamming, man. The excitement of having Ryan back.

00:35:39.809 --> 00:35:41.429
I think that comes through in the music. That's,

00:35:41.429 --> 00:35:43.090
you know, where Revolution, you know, started.

00:35:43.170 --> 00:35:44.829
You know, he came here the first time he came

00:35:44.829 --> 00:35:47.230
back. It was like two years ago. And I have like

00:35:47.230 --> 00:35:48.909
a gazebo set up in the backyard. I just sat out

00:35:48.909 --> 00:35:50.980
there. actually with an acoustic thinking we're

00:35:50.980 --> 00:35:52.400
going to just sit out and jam. I just started

00:35:52.400 --> 00:35:54.239
rocking out hard on it. It doesn't matter what

00:35:54.239 --> 00:35:56.079
instruments you have. I love get on acoustic

00:35:56.079 --> 00:35:58.179
and rocking hard anyway. It's not, the acoustic

00:35:58.179 --> 00:36:00.460
doesn't have to just be for, you know, soft breeze

00:36:00.460 --> 00:36:03.500
songs. Hey, there's an MTV unplugged for a reason.

00:36:03.539 --> 00:36:05.480
Maybe a drowning pool unplugged set would kick

00:36:05.480 --> 00:36:07.420
some ass. I would love to do that, man. We did

00:36:07.420 --> 00:36:09.619
an acoustic set last year in Poland. We did eight

00:36:09.619 --> 00:36:12.159
shows for the troops and we did a 17 song acoustic

00:36:12.159 --> 00:36:14.000
set, but it was jamming, man. I actually had

00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:16.199
a little distortion on the acoustic anyway. You

00:36:16.199 --> 00:36:17.440
know, it was supposed to be an acoustic set,

00:36:17.460 --> 00:36:20.260
but, I don't know, some songs come across heavier

00:36:20.260 --> 00:36:22.780
on the acoustic when you're banging on it. At

00:36:22.780 --> 00:36:24.739
least for me, they sounded like that. I would

00:36:24.739 --> 00:36:26.019
love to do that. I'd love to do an acoustic record

00:36:26.019 --> 00:36:28.159
and some kind of acoustic tour. But yeah, that's

00:36:28.159 --> 00:36:29.340
all good things, man. I'm going to put that,

00:36:29.420 --> 00:36:30.820
we're going to write that down and I'll try to

00:36:30.820 --> 00:36:33.139
make that happen as well. But yeah, we have a

00:36:33.139 --> 00:36:35.039
lot of material. You know, every time we get

00:36:35.039 --> 00:36:36.300
together, there's been a lot of stuff on the

00:36:36.300 --> 00:36:37.880
plate. It just hasn't, we haven't had time to

00:36:37.880 --> 00:36:39.460
finish putting them together, if you will. So

00:36:39.460 --> 00:36:41.039
we have a lot of songs that are pretty much like

00:36:41.039 --> 00:36:44.280
90 % done. Just the final touches before we go

00:36:44.280 --> 00:36:46.599
record them. No, it's been great, dude. It's

00:36:46.599 --> 00:36:48.519
like we didn't skip a beat with Ryan. He's been

00:36:48.519 --> 00:36:50.460
easy to write with. All of us, you know, on fire

00:36:50.460 --> 00:36:52.059
again to have Ryan back in the band after 12,

00:36:52.139 --> 00:36:54.860
13 years. And he'll be here in two more weeks.

00:36:55.079 --> 00:36:56.400
And we're going to just get in a room and just

00:36:56.400 --> 00:36:57.679
start knocking these out. And it's going to stay

00:36:57.679 --> 00:36:59.260
after. And then two weeks after that, we're going

00:36:59.260 --> 00:37:02.139
to go record. So it's been great, dude. We just,

00:37:02.199 --> 00:37:03.960
you know, we play what we feel. We write what

00:37:03.960 --> 00:37:06.099
we feel, man. And right now, you know, like the

00:37:06.099 --> 00:37:08.019
set list, everything's been really intense and

00:37:08.019 --> 00:37:10.119
just awesome. We've been touring pretty strong

00:37:10.119 --> 00:37:12.539
the last two years. And just that feeling, you

00:37:12.539 --> 00:37:14.000
know, the vibe from the fans, you know, get off

00:37:14.000 --> 00:37:16.750
stage. especially at the playing bodies and um

00:37:16.750 --> 00:37:18.389
there's been a lot of times on tour like i'm

00:37:18.389 --> 00:37:20.030
still jacked up so get the guitar and write some

00:37:20.030 --> 00:37:22.130
kind of cool riff so now i'm at the point where

00:37:22.130 --> 00:37:23.949
i can just sit here and i'm gonna turn this on

00:37:23.949 --> 00:37:26.329
after we get done and uh put them together man

00:37:26.329 --> 00:37:29.730
make it happen well you said something earlier

00:37:29.730 --> 00:37:32.110
that i'm now gonna harp on because it wouldn't

00:37:32.110 --> 00:37:35.510
be very newslike of me if i didn't but next year

00:37:35.510 --> 00:37:39.610
2026 marks the 30th anniversary of drowning pool

00:37:39.610 --> 00:37:42.510
don't take me too much it's 25 you guys formed

00:37:42.510 --> 00:37:45.579
in 96 right We formed in 96, but it's a, well,

00:37:45.679 --> 00:37:47.360
it's a 30, you're right. It's 30 year anniversary

00:37:47.360 --> 00:37:48.920
of the band, but the center record came out in

00:37:48.920 --> 00:37:51.679
2001. So yes, of course. Are you right? Yeah.

00:37:51.719 --> 00:37:53.440
My knees hurt when you said that. What year is

00:37:53.440 --> 00:37:56.159
this? Where did the time go, man? I must've been

00:37:56.159 --> 00:37:58.179
drinking a lot in the middle of my life. It's

00:37:58.179 --> 00:38:00.019
blacked out for 10 years. Okay. So then we'll

00:38:00.019 --> 00:38:02.599
go with 25. We'll go with the 25th anniversary

00:38:02.599 --> 00:38:06.139
of sitter. Yeah. Does the band have anything

00:38:06.139 --> 00:38:08.800
in the works to mark the occasion? We have a

00:38:08.800 --> 00:38:10.860
lot of stuff in the works and a lot of things

00:38:10.860 --> 00:38:12.840
that we're working towards now. Things that,

00:38:12.880 --> 00:38:15.130
you know, we're still putting together a lot

00:38:15.130 --> 00:38:17.130
of amazing ideas um we want to do everything

00:38:17.130 --> 00:38:19.230
and anything first and foremost on to hats off

00:38:19.230 --> 00:38:21.989
to dave williams who is just a part of the making

00:38:21.989 --> 00:38:24.230
of the center record and uh you know kind of

00:38:24.230 --> 00:38:26.630
the foundation of our sound that you know with

00:38:26.630 --> 00:38:29.050
bodies so we have a lot of stuff and um i have

00:38:29.050 --> 00:38:31.269
a lot of you know i went to storage went had

00:38:31.269 --> 00:38:33.110
some time off cleaned out some stuff and i have

00:38:33.110 --> 00:38:35.130
a lot of music and cassette tapes and stuff we

00:38:35.130 --> 00:38:37.929
did that we didn't finish like record like we

00:38:37.929 --> 00:38:40.210
have a lot of songs with dave that just were

00:38:40.210 --> 00:38:43.079
not recorded professionally if you will so We've

00:38:43.079 --> 00:38:44.599
been talking about maybe getting some of those

00:38:44.599 --> 00:38:47.360
songs to have put them out there. Because you

00:38:47.360 --> 00:38:49.139
can get his voice off the cassette tape now with

00:38:49.139 --> 00:38:51.519
all this cool, fun technology. Still his voice,

00:38:51.559 --> 00:38:54.320
not this AI stuff. But we have songs, a few of

00:38:54.320 --> 00:38:56.960
them that we would like to finish. There's songs

00:38:56.960 --> 00:38:59.980
that we haven't played live. I don't think we

00:38:59.980 --> 00:39:03.039
played the game. Break You is another one that

00:39:03.039 --> 00:39:05.480
we did. So all things Dave Williams, man. We

00:39:05.480 --> 00:39:07.780
want to make this show all about that. And again,

00:39:07.840 --> 00:39:09.579
it's just fun. I haven't gone through everything

00:39:09.579 --> 00:39:12.699
yet, but I found a lot of video. And a lot of

00:39:12.699 --> 00:39:15.019
music that we just never got around to putting

00:39:15.019 --> 00:39:17.239
out yet. You know, we were in super writing mode

00:39:17.239 --> 00:39:19.420
before we even did center record. Any chance

00:39:19.420 --> 00:39:22.320
that there's maybe a 25th anniversary, maybe

00:39:22.320 --> 00:39:25.519
deluxe release of center? Yeah, definitely, man.

00:39:25.599 --> 00:39:27.820
That's definitely going to be that with all this

00:39:27.820 --> 00:39:29.760
stuff on it, just kind of narrow down to what

00:39:29.760 --> 00:39:31.679
we want to put on it. I want to put everything

00:39:31.679 --> 00:39:33.739
out, especially the video. I'll have so much

00:39:33.739 --> 00:39:35.800
video backed in. There's like the high eight

00:39:35.800 --> 00:39:38.159
cameras came out and we did a lot of stuff locally

00:39:38.159 --> 00:39:39.699
before, right before we got signed, we did some

00:39:39.699 --> 00:39:41.960
door and actually we'd had PE. We've got to open

00:39:41.960 --> 00:39:43.960
up for them here locally. Same thing with Seven

00:39:43.960 --> 00:39:47.260
Dust and with Kitty. Love Kitty. Love that band.

00:39:47.619 --> 00:39:49.840
So I have a lot of stuff, as long as they're

00:39:49.840 --> 00:39:51.320
cool with it, just to get it out there. Just

00:39:51.320 --> 00:39:53.539
us, Raw, all that stuff, kind of pre -Center

00:39:53.539 --> 00:39:55.800
Days, if you will, on the local scene. We did

00:39:55.800 --> 00:39:59.239
the big local show with Chaz here in town. So,

00:39:59.239 --> 00:40:01.300
yeah, there's a lot of stuff that we have to

00:40:01.300 --> 00:40:03.840
put out there. Some soundboards from some live

00:40:03.840 --> 00:40:06.849
shows from that touring cycle. Um, yeah, yeah,

00:40:06.929 --> 00:40:08.269
there's definitely video that I have that we

00:40:08.269 --> 00:40:10.230
haven't released and Mike and Stevie as well.

00:40:10.369 --> 00:40:12.869
So I want to get all that out, have a big package

00:40:12.869 --> 00:40:14.889
with that. But the fun, the exciting stuff is

00:40:14.889 --> 00:40:16.570
just as a handful of songs that I think we can

00:40:16.570 --> 00:40:18.489
probably either just clean off, keep it how it

00:40:18.489 --> 00:40:20.349
is on a cassette tape, or we can, us three, Mike,

00:40:20.369 --> 00:40:22.670
Stevie, myself can like redo the music and put

00:40:22.670 --> 00:40:24.690
the vocal on top to kind of polish it up. But

00:40:24.690 --> 00:40:26.730
I'm cool either way. It's just, it's just fun.

00:40:26.809 --> 00:40:28.989
We did some covers, a handful of cover songs

00:40:28.989 --> 00:40:31.750
too. Um, we did Day Tripper from the Beatles

00:40:31.750 --> 00:40:34.090
and I have that on as well recorded that nobody's

00:40:34.090 --> 00:40:35.449
ever heard. That was fun just hearing Dave do

00:40:35.449 --> 00:40:38.039
it. Oh, wow. A lot of material, yeah. There's

00:40:38.039 --> 00:40:38.840
a lot of stuff to pick through. I got to hear

00:40:38.840 --> 00:40:41.619
that, man. Yeah, it was heavy, man. I had like

00:40:41.619 --> 00:40:43.360
the low octave on it. I forgot we even did it

00:40:43.360 --> 00:40:44.920
until I heard the tape. So, and there's also

00:40:44.920 --> 00:40:46.820
like earlier versions of like Bodies in Terror

00:40:46.820 --> 00:40:47.900
Way that are a little different. I think some

00:40:47.900 --> 00:40:49.699
of that might be out there, some of the old Emerald

00:40:49.699 --> 00:40:52.239
versions. But if not, I still have those. Just

00:40:52.239 --> 00:40:54.760
stuff for like the hardcore fans, man. And anything.

00:40:54.860 --> 00:40:56.500
We have stuff that's still signed from Dave Williams

00:40:56.500 --> 00:40:59.119
in storage. A handful of things that I like to...

00:40:59.360 --> 00:41:01.119
But it's going to sit in storage and collect

00:41:01.119 --> 00:41:03.199
dust, man. I like to get that out to the hardcore

00:41:03.199 --> 00:41:05.019
fans. So we have a bunch of posters that are

00:41:05.019 --> 00:41:07.360
still signed and some of the older CDs and stuff

00:41:07.360 --> 00:41:10.159
too, man. Now, I'm not sure if this is a Mandela

00:41:10.159 --> 00:41:12.260
effect thing for me going on here, but I do want

00:41:12.260 --> 00:41:16.179
to ask you, I remember before bodies really exploded

00:41:16.179 --> 00:41:20.119
back in my radio days, hearing versions of Tearaway

00:41:20.119 --> 00:41:23.960
and Bodies and maybe even Sinner. But they weren't

00:41:23.960 --> 00:41:26.260
the finished versions on the final album. Did

00:41:26.260 --> 00:41:28.960
you guys record other versions of these songs

00:41:28.960 --> 00:41:32.500
prior to the major label debut? Bodies and Tear

00:41:32.500 --> 00:41:34.420
Away for sure. But Center, we finished that up

00:41:34.420 --> 00:41:37.739
actually with Jay Baumgartner there at NRG Studios.

00:41:38.139 --> 00:41:39.820
So that was the one that was finished. We had

00:41:39.820 --> 00:41:42.260
the riff from before. I don't know if we had

00:41:42.260 --> 00:41:44.079
put something out because there was something

00:41:44.079 --> 00:41:46.840
similar to that riff. I'm trying to remember

00:41:46.840 --> 00:41:49.239
now. I'm picking my own brain here. But the song

00:41:49.239 --> 00:41:51.059
itself wasn't done until we were there. There

00:41:51.059 --> 00:41:53.360
was four songs that we completed in the pre -production.

00:41:53.480 --> 00:41:56.699
That was one of them. Ironically, our shortest

00:41:56.699 --> 00:41:59.940
song as well. But a fun song to play, man. And

00:41:59.940 --> 00:42:01.079
that's another song. That's another thing I do

00:42:01.079 --> 00:42:02.739
at the house. I have alternate versions. I have

00:42:02.739 --> 00:42:04.219
10 other versions of the bodies. A lot of people

00:42:04.219 --> 00:42:06.840
do covers of it and have fun with it because

00:42:06.840 --> 00:42:09.559
I wrote the song. So I have a mandolin version.

00:42:09.659 --> 00:42:11.500
I have this Justin Timberlake kind of dance version.

00:42:11.559 --> 00:42:14.000
Just sitting around my house having fun. i don't

00:42:14.000 --> 00:42:15.480
know how many other musicians do this or not

00:42:15.480 --> 00:42:17.440
but i still sit here at my house and play my

00:42:17.440 --> 00:42:20.800
songs because i like them so so i just have uh

00:42:20.800 --> 00:42:23.000
alternate versions of that and it's the same

00:42:23.000 --> 00:42:24.519
thing with center lately i have this like kind

00:42:24.519 --> 00:42:27.159
of um ridge against machines kind of funky version

00:42:27.159 --> 00:42:29.670
of center that i keep doing in fact i messed

00:42:29.670 --> 00:42:32.050
ryan up one show i was doing it on the bus right

00:42:32.050 --> 00:42:34.170
before he went on stage and he was getting into

00:42:34.170 --> 00:42:35.650
the groove with me so he had this head groove

00:42:35.650 --> 00:42:37.289
and that's just a different delivery and sway

00:42:37.289 --> 00:42:38.989
it's like oh shit he's fucking up so he had to

00:42:38.989 --> 00:42:40.630
like we're like get ready to go on stage like

00:42:40.630 --> 00:42:42.090
he had to listen to it real quick to get his

00:42:42.090 --> 00:42:43.769
head back into the game he's like don't ever

00:42:43.769 --> 00:42:46.230
do that to me again um i get on a reggae kick

00:42:46.230 --> 00:42:47.929
every now and then i like 37 stitches i have

00:42:47.929 --> 00:42:49.829
like i can pretty much reggae any one of our

00:42:49.829 --> 00:42:51.329
songs like reggae metal because it's another

00:42:51.329 --> 00:42:54.260
thing i'm a big fan of but i was on a kick It

00:42:54.260 --> 00:42:55.760
was the last summer or something. I was just

00:42:55.760 --> 00:42:58.420
on a beachy kick, man. Every song, I was throwing

00:42:58.420 --> 00:43:01.300
reggae vibe to them. Well, if you ever tour with

00:43:01.300 --> 00:43:03.199
Skindred, I would want to see that for sure.

00:43:03.480 --> 00:43:06.719
I would do a reggae Drowning Pool set right now

00:43:06.719 --> 00:43:08.159
with Skindred. I would pick my guitar up and

00:43:08.159 --> 00:43:09.960
do it on the fly, man. That would be incredible.

00:43:11.059 --> 00:43:14.039
So we talked about your personal ultimate concert

00:43:14.039 --> 00:43:16.400
tonight, but I want to put a spin on that in

00:43:16.400 --> 00:43:19.920
the Drowning Pool universe. So if you had a chance

00:43:19.920 --> 00:43:25.349
to create a top five personal drowning pool set

00:43:25.349 --> 00:43:28.230
list. Oh man. You don't have to worry about the

00:43:28.230 --> 00:43:31.690
hits and the fan favorites. This is purely your

00:43:31.690 --> 00:43:34.510
set list to pick. And you could pick five songs

00:43:34.510 --> 00:43:37.269
from across drowning pools catalog. Which five

00:43:37.269 --> 00:43:39.670
would you pick? Jesus, man. That's that's, I

00:43:39.670 --> 00:43:41.829
wasn't prepared for that. I know. I got to throw

00:43:41.829 --> 00:43:44.050
out the hard questions every now and then. It's

00:43:44.050 --> 00:43:45.590
a hard one. Cause I do love them all. I mean,

00:43:45.590 --> 00:43:48.050
there's not one that I don't like. I'm trying

00:43:48.050 --> 00:43:52.599
to think of ones, you know, I know there's a

00:43:52.599 --> 00:43:55.179
few that I would like to play here. Let me just

00:43:55.179 --> 00:43:57.460
go here. Hell to Pay off of Hallelujah is one

00:43:57.460 --> 00:43:59.920
of them. I love that song. I would love to play

00:43:59.920 --> 00:44:02.179
that one. You know, we did Let the Sin Begin

00:44:02.179 --> 00:44:05.119
a few times. That's a fun song to play. King

00:44:05.119 --> 00:44:07.420
Zero, definitely off the self -titled record.

00:44:07.579 --> 00:44:10.619
King Zero is like, you know, we almost get to

00:44:10.619 --> 00:44:12.920
play it and then, you know, it almost makes us

00:44:12.920 --> 00:44:15.619
that list, but it hasn't. Full Circle too. I

00:44:15.619 --> 00:44:18.599
love that song off the Full Circle record. It

00:44:18.599 --> 00:44:21.829
just opens up all jamming. Is that five? That

00:44:21.829 --> 00:44:24.389
would be four. You got one more. Shit, man, this

00:44:24.389 --> 00:44:29.170
is hard. Dude, this is so hard. You know, this

00:44:29.170 --> 00:44:31.909
life off of Desensitized, too, man, that one

00:44:31.909 --> 00:44:34.530
really hits home for me. And I still sit around

00:44:34.530 --> 00:44:36.050
the house and just another song that, you know,

00:44:36.090 --> 00:44:38.110
I sit and play and just do it because I just

00:44:38.110 --> 00:44:40.780
like the song, man. I'm going to throw out one.

00:44:40.820 --> 00:44:43.500
If you guys are ever taking requests, I don't

00:44:43.500 --> 00:44:45.320
know if it's been in the set list for a while,

00:44:45.420 --> 00:44:48.059
but it's one that I've always been a huge fan

00:44:48.059 --> 00:44:50.980
of actually from desensitized and it's numb.

00:44:51.420 --> 00:44:55.980
That song to me is such a freaking jam. I've

00:44:55.980 --> 00:44:58.789
always wondered why that. kind of hasn't stuck

00:44:58.789 --> 00:45:00.369
through the years but obviously there's only

00:45:00.369 --> 00:45:02.469
so much time you have on stage right thanks for

00:45:02.469 --> 00:45:04.610
saying that uh there's a bill xavier that that's

00:45:04.610 --> 00:45:07.769
the own bc rich guitarist um that's another one

00:45:07.769 --> 00:45:09.469
of the song he says a lot numb is one of his

00:45:09.469 --> 00:45:11.570
favorite ones and i love that song you know that's

00:45:11.570 --> 00:45:13.610
come up a few times for other people it's i guess

00:45:13.610 --> 00:45:15.389
that's a good deep track but uh it's just that

00:45:15.389 --> 00:45:17.409
head groove to it man like the song is playing

00:45:17.409 --> 00:45:19.570
in my head right now as we speak in fact i'm

00:45:19.570 --> 00:45:21.369
gonna you know i'll push that one for the next

00:45:21.369 --> 00:45:23.630
tour i'm gonna push it because uh yeah you know

00:45:23.630 --> 00:45:26.460
again it's hard to pick Again, we love them all,

00:45:26.539 --> 00:45:28.659
man. And there's only so much time you can play.

00:45:28.659 --> 00:45:30.840
But we do mix it up. And I'm going to bring those

00:45:30.840 --> 00:45:33.119
up for sure. I'll bring them up. Or we do a special

00:45:33.119 --> 00:45:35.179
when we play in Jersey. There you go. Perfect.

00:45:35.719 --> 00:45:38.739
Now, you mentioned a big tour for next year.

00:45:39.460 --> 00:45:42.699
How much am I allowed to pick at that? How much

00:45:42.699 --> 00:45:45.679
could you spill? You can tell me what your dream

00:45:45.679 --> 00:45:48.000
setup would be. I mean, there's a few other bands

00:45:48.000 --> 00:45:49.800
having their anniversaries. But for us, it's

00:45:49.800 --> 00:45:51.659
a big deal. 25 -year anniversary for Center.

00:45:52.399 --> 00:45:54.360
And, you know, I just want to do it right by

00:45:54.360 --> 00:45:56.099
Dave. So this year we're doing a lot of stuff

00:45:56.099 --> 00:45:57.860
overseas. We kind of, you know, taking a break

00:45:57.860 --> 00:45:59.300
in the States. We hit it pretty hard last year.

00:45:59.360 --> 00:46:01.239
So we'll start out in the States and do a run.

00:46:01.599 --> 00:46:03.840
I mean, for me, I'd like to have a lot of the

00:46:03.840 --> 00:46:05.440
bands that were aforementioned in my set list

00:46:05.440 --> 00:46:09.360
or bands, you know, around that era, 2001, 2002,

00:46:09.460 --> 00:46:11.480
Auspice, would be great to join forces and just

00:46:11.480 --> 00:46:13.480
have like a big new metal thing with bands with

00:46:13.480 --> 00:46:15.659
anniversary records. That's what I would like

00:46:15.659 --> 00:46:17.679
to do. And not saying that that's what's happening.

00:46:17.980 --> 00:46:20.699
But Hugo, what would you like to see? Oh, dude,

00:46:20.840 --> 00:46:25.360
that 2001 OzFest to me was such a monumental

00:46:25.360 --> 00:46:27.719
show. When you look back at the new metal era

00:46:27.719 --> 00:46:31.780
and you think about all the bands, what the Osbournes

00:46:31.780 --> 00:46:34.380
were able to put together on that day, when you

00:46:34.380 --> 00:46:37.500
look back at that lineup from start to finish.

00:46:37.980 --> 00:46:40.039
Yeah, it's a great lineup, man. So why not just

00:46:40.039 --> 00:46:42.320
run that back, man? Yeah, let's just do it. Let's

00:46:42.320 --> 00:46:46.199
have a 2001 redo, man. I would play that. You

00:46:46.199 --> 00:46:47.539
know, when we started the tour, we were going

00:46:47.539 --> 00:46:51.090
on first at the time. Yes. and bodies took off

00:46:51.090 --> 00:46:53.130
and and you know it was up sharon is the one

00:46:53.130 --> 00:46:54.730
that kind of moved us up in the set list which

00:46:54.730 --> 00:46:57.670
you know we all dave and i went to every single

00:46:57.670 --> 00:46:59.869
band that did you know we had superseded and

00:46:59.869 --> 00:47:01.849
said hey like you know that's sharon it's not

00:47:01.849 --> 00:47:04.150
us because you know we felt i appreciated her

00:47:04.150 --> 00:47:05.869
doing that and the song did take off and i guess

00:47:05.869 --> 00:47:07.989
it made sense with the whole of the time to play

00:47:07.989 --> 00:47:09.769
later in the day but yeah it was just awesome

00:47:09.769 --> 00:47:11.650
to be there man we're just thankful to be on

00:47:11.650 --> 00:47:13.769
the tour and i gladly opened up the show like

00:47:13.769 --> 00:47:15.369
i'm not too big for my britches like i'll go

00:47:15.369 --> 00:47:17.889
on first i'll go on last man We're easy. I'm

00:47:17.889 --> 00:47:19.510
still going to get on stage and play my songs

00:47:19.510 --> 00:47:21.429
and have a great time doing it. So, but yes,

00:47:21.449 --> 00:47:24.030
that lineup, I would love that to do that as

00:47:24.030 --> 00:47:26.690
like a tour. So let's call Danny Wimmer. Let's

00:47:26.690 --> 00:47:28.929
make this happen. All right. All right. I'll

00:47:28.929 --> 00:47:30.710
get involved, dude. I'll help out anything you

00:47:30.710 --> 00:47:32.650
need. You just say the word. Yeah. Let's get

00:47:32.650 --> 00:47:33.949
in touch with all these bands. Let's do this.

00:47:34.030 --> 00:47:36.250
That would be a dream show really for us and

00:47:36.250 --> 00:47:38.110
the bands. And I'm sure for all the fans as well,

00:47:38.110 --> 00:47:41.139
man. I completely agree. Now, I'm sure you've

00:47:41.139 --> 00:47:43.320
gotten this many times over the years, but I'd

00:47:43.320 --> 00:47:45.460
like to close with my own personal drowning pool

00:47:45.460 --> 00:47:48.599
story, if that's OK with you, because this is

00:47:48.599 --> 00:47:50.960
a story that involves the band. But none of you

00:47:50.960 --> 00:47:54.940
were there 20 years ago. I got to marry the love

00:47:54.940 --> 00:47:59.280
of my life and my cousin put together the best

00:47:59.280 --> 00:48:02.199
bachelor party that I could have ever asked for.

00:48:02.659 --> 00:48:06.239
And he rented out an entire. italian restaurant

00:48:06.239 --> 00:48:09.300
and shut it down and he had the square table

00:48:09.300 --> 00:48:12.159
or the you know rectangular table and everything

00:48:12.159 --> 00:48:14.519
was set up to be like i don't want to call it

00:48:14.519 --> 00:48:17.840
mafia style but you know it was a well done put

00:48:17.840 --> 00:48:20.219
together italian restaurant nice and then we

00:48:20.219 --> 00:48:23.039
went and did the other festivities for the evening

00:48:23.039 --> 00:48:26.039
but the part that sticks with everybody on that

00:48:26.039 --> 00:48:29.760
bus because my cousin rented a party bus And

00:48:29.760 --> 00:48:31.900
before we left, they said, oh, dude, there's

00:48:31.900 --> 00:48:34.099
a CD player on the bus. Now, being the nerd I

00:48:34.099 --> 00:48:36.739
am, I'm always burning CDs. So I went to my car,

00:48:36.900 --> 00:48:40.519
grabbed my quote unquote hype up mix and brought

00:48:40.519 --> 00:48:43.619
it out. Right on. And the first song on that

00:48:43.619 --> 00:48:47.079
was Bodies. And the one thing that if you ask

00:48:47.079 --> 00:48:49.420
anybody that attended my bachelor party from

00:48:49.420 --> 00:48:51.900
my father to my father -in -law to all my friends,

00:48:51.980 --> 00:48:54.420
and there's sadly some people who are no longer

00:48:54.420 --> 00:48:58.519
with us that night, was Bodies on the party bus.

00:48:59.019 --> 00:49:01.420
And that's all you have to say. So between that,

00:49:01.500 --> 00:49:04.460
I want to thank you and the band for one of the

00:49:04.460 --> 00:49:07.019
most fondest memories of my life with a lot of

00:49:07.019 --> 00:49:09.699
people I love dearly. That music was a soundtrack

00:49:09.699 --> 00:49:13.739
to it. I also want to thank you for the 25, I'll

00:49:13.739 --> 00:49:17.059
stop at 25 years of incredible drowning pool

00:49:17.059 --> 00:49:19.820
music. And most importantly, I want to thank

00:49:19.820 --> 00:49:22.440
you for being a part of my weekly mixtape tonight.

00:49:22.860 --> 00:49:24.320
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00:49:24.320 --> 00:49:25.679
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