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Welcome to My Weekly Mixtape, a podcast that

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takes the classic mixtape approach to building

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a modern playlist. I'm your host, Brian Colburn.

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Joining me tonight are Jesse and Sylvan, hosts

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of The Perfectly Good Podcast. Welcome to the

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show, guys. Thank you so much. You know, if there's

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one thing I love more than John Hyatt, it might

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be the classic task of building a great mixtape.

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So this is just my happy place. And I am so thrilled

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to be back a second time. You and I, Brian, did

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a Bruce Springsteen podcast. And even then I

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was going, God, we got to do this with Sylvan

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and John Hyatt. We got to do this thing with

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Sylvan and John Hyatt. Well, I am so glad we're

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finally able to make that happen. This is awesome.

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Yeah, Jesse, we did the ultimate Bruce Springsteen

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playlist. So you got to answer my first time

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guest question, but Sylvan hasn't. So Sylvan,

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as a first time guest. What does the word mixtape

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mean to you? Well, it's actually funny. The first

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time I talked with Jesse, I shared that I was

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introduced to John Hyatt by my aunt and uncle,

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who are the coolest people in the world. And

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they lived up in the hills of Vermont when I

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was a small kid. That was in the 80s and 90s.

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So when you came to Vermont in the 80s and 90s,

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there was no Internet. There was no cable TV.

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What we did was sit around and listen to their.

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immense music collection and specifically make

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tapes for my mom to then drive back to Boston

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where we both lived. And usually what we did

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was she would choose an album that she was interested

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in and then side B would be the mixtape that

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we'd get to fill in. As I grew up, it was kind

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of my rite of passage that I got to make a selection

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on these mixtapes and get to expand my knowledge.

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So it really is about family. It's about connection.

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It's about communication. And it's about a love

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of music. And, you know, at its best, I think

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music reflects things about ourselves and our

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relationships back at us. And it brings us both.

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closer together. So the mixtape is a sacred space

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of connection in my mind. All right. What an

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awesome answer. I love it. Now, tonight, the

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three of us have a challenge in front of us because

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we're tasked with taking 24 of John Hyatt's studio

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albums. And that's before counting his live albums

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or his compilations, starting with 1974's Hanging

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Around the Observatory. all the way through 2021's

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leftover feelings with the Jerry Douglas band.

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And we have to whittle it down because there's

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three of us tonight to 12 songs. So I could say

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that with relative ease, we're going to upset

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fans of at least 12 different John Hyatt albums.

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So Sylvan, I'll start with you. How did you approach

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your... bank of songs that you're bringing to

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the table this evening, since you only could

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choose four songs out of 24 albums? Well, I really

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struggled with, is this a mixtape? Is it an anthology?

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Is it a best of? Or, you know, is it a reflection

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of who I am as a John Hyatt fan? Is it a communication,

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a conversation between? you gentlemen and myself,

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and I landed somewhere in between. So my approach

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was that we need a little bit of all of the different

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Johns because he has changed quite a bit over

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the course of his career. Jesse and I are going

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through the process of every song in alphabetical

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order, thankfully rating, not ranking. And if

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we just looked at those songs that we have both

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called perfect at a five -star song, we'd already

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only going... into the L's of the alphabet have

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to be at like five mixtapes. So I really had

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to say this isn't the best of John Hyatt. It

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is a, let's say that you really wanted to kind

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of introduce someone to the multiple sides of

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John Hyatt and give just a taste that would want

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them to wet their whistle and really dive into

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the rest of the stuff. That was my approach.

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And Jesse, I'll throw that same question to you.

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Yeah. So I did a similar, I took our spreadsheet

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and said, okay, what songs have we rated? I've

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rated a five and in our scale is one through

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five. So I had a list of all the songs through

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where we are now, real time that were fives.

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And I said, okay, that's kind of my basis. Then

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I had other songs that I knew for personal reasons

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I wanted to be on this. And then the third one

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was one of the things that I love about your

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concept and the idea of a mixtape is this has

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to flow. Think of this as a wine and hors d 'oeuvre

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tasting party, right? Like you can't just. randomly

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bring appetizers and branding wines you need

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to pair them and they need to flow so i said

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okay i know i want this couple of songs luckily

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i don't go first sylvan so i can follow sylvan's

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lead and then kind of okay well let's try to

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make this roll and one thing that made me very

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happy and spoilers you've already said in a year

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or two we can do volume two So I'm like, OK,

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great. That makes me feel a little better. Well,

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my goal for this evening is simply to try to

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keep up with both of you because you guys talk

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week in and week out about all the songs from

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his catalog, like you said, in alphabetical order.

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And tonight we're only talking about 12 songs.

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So I'm really happy that tonight's 12 hour episode

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is dedicated to his music, though this is actually

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going to be the hard part. We have to keep this

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to a regular hour episode when you guys are used

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to opening up the floor and talking about his

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songs at great length. So instead of waxing poetic

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any longer, let's just get down to business.

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As I mentioned at the top of the show. Sylvan,

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Jesse, and I will be curating the ultimate John

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Hyatt playlist using a roundtable approach with

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our overall goal for this episode to be crafting

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the best mixtape possible through these dozen

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songs. We're trying to tell the John Hyatt, as

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far as I'm concerned, a 101 story, something

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that gives people an introduction if they haven't

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heard his music before. At the end of the show,

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you can take our conversation to the next level.

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by visiting the episode page at myweeklymixtape

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.com to give our final mixtape a listen via the

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embedded playlist. And if you like what you're

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hearing on the show, you can help me out by either

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telling a friend, leaving the show a five -star

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review wherever you're tuning in, or becoming

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a Patreon mixtaper at patreon .com forward slash

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My Weekly Mixtape episodes, chime in on upcoming

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topics, become a future guest, and so much more.

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And a few of the Patreon mixtapers chimed in

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with the songs they would use to kick things

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off for tonight, and I want to give a quick shout

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-out to those. Chad LaMassa chimed in saying

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he'd start with the classic Have a Little Faith

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in Me from Bring the Family. And Brandon from

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Virginia chimed in saying, Nice! So many choices.

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And he chose one that suits Brandon and my recent

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episode on the ultimate inspirational rock playlist.

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That being the live version of through your hands

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from Hyatt comes alive at Budokan. Once again,

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if you'd like to chime in for future, my weekly

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mixtape episodes, come join the mixtaper community

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at patrion .com forward slash my weekly mixtape.

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And Sylvan, with that being said, I'm pressing

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the record button on our mixtape. What song is

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going to kick off the festivities tonight? Well,

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to answer that question, I had to first ask the

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questions that Uncle Todd and Lynn would ask

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me. Is this going to be mellow? Is this going

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to be fast? Are we grabbing people's attention?

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Are we being obscure? Are we going mainstream?

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Are we going to be predictable? Are we going

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to take some risks? And I was trained in the

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mixtape to take some risks, which means that

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I am neither going to go slow nor fast. I am

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going to pick a song that gives us a little bit

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of everything and one that not many people would

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know, but features, in my mind, John's quintessential

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backup band, The Goners. is a song called let

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it ride which occurred on the country bear soundtrack

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so i imagine not many people would know that

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although if you visited perfectly good podcast

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to hear brian you may know about the country

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bear soundtrack because he joined us to talk

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this song let it ride and i think it's the perfect

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way to start because it does give you a little

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bit of everything john You have him kind of starting

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out solo and backwards. And then you have the

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band kicking in and the full rock. And most of

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all, you have the classic John Hyatt clever lyrics

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that made you kind of stop and think and hungry

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for more. Yeah, I love that choice. I did not

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know this song till at the very first meeting

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of Sylvan and I. When she joined me on Set Lusting

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Bruce for John Hyatt Month, she shared this where

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she had the album she wanted to talk about and

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she shared the soundtrack. So I loved it. I loved

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our discussion that we had with Brian. And this

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gave me a moment because last weekend, Linda

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was in the living room and she was about to go

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to bed. And I said, hey. Do you have a minute?

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She goes, sure. I said, I want to play you something.

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And so I pulled up the video of the anemonic

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bears. I'm like, I want you to watch this. And

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she's looking at me like, what? Have you lost

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your mind? And I hit play. And, you know, they're

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doing the instrumental. And all of a sudden the

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voice and Lindy goes, oh, my God, that's John

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Hyatt. And she made me play the song two or three

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times. She made me read the lyrics to it. She

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says, that is as a perfect John Hyatt song as

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I've ever heard. How the hell did we not know

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this one? So thank you for that, Sylvan. And

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I think this sets us off perfectly. I couldn't

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agree more. To me, this is the perfect. road

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trip driving song. There's just something that's

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so freeing and so open about the song. It's upbeat,

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it's happy, but it's not a straight ahead rocker

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and it's not a heartfelt ballad. It kind of sits

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right in the middle and it gives us a place to

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bounce off in many different directions. And

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I love his lyrics. There's something that always

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I grasp onto. So I'm just going to drop my favorite

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lyric from the song here, and then I'll tell

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people to head over to the episode page at myweeklymixtape

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.com because I'll embed our entire Let It Ride

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discussion on the John Hyatt episode page in

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case you want to take it down a much more in

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-depth discussion about this incredible song.

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And every mistake is a break, but only if you

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get it. Let it ride, let it ride, let it ride.

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This song, my wife and I, went to a movie theater

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up in New Hampshire. It was called Smitty's at

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the time. And we were just looking to go try

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this movie theater that you can have dinner at,

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have drinks and watch a movie. Now this is back

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in 2002. So this wasn't basically every movie

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theater ever. This was an experience. So we show

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up and the only movie that was playing was the

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country bears. And I said, well, how bad could

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it be? It's a movie about musicians, even though

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it's animatronic, Bears or whatever you want

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to call it. It's Jim Henson's team made them.

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So I said, let's give it a try. What the hell?

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Soon as the movie opened, I started like elbowing

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her across the table going, this is John Hyatt.

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And the whole movie, I was just blown away that

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John Hyatt was the voice for the country bears.

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And as soon as the movie was over. We went right

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to Best Buy and I bought the soundtrack. And

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I've loved it ever since. It's an amazing soundtrack.

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And I hope that any John Hyatt song from the

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Country Bears soundtrack you guys ask me to join

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you again for. Because there are plenty from

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this soundtrack that I could easily include on

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our mix tonight. But with 24 albums that we still

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haven't touched yet. I don't know because this

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is one of the outliers right from the beginning.

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So bravo, Sylvan. And with that, Jesse, I'm throwing

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it to you to follow that up with track two. So

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I think we're always looking for true north.

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And so as we're continuing, I think she started

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out us on a road trip. So I'm going to go drive

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south from Slow Turning. A couple of special

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things. I love this song. I think it's really,

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really a special. lovely song. Susie Bogus had

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a hit with it. And this is also kind of a wink

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and a hug to my sister in all things Hyatt, because

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that was one of the other songs that meant a

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lot to her emotionally. And when it gets to her

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turn to talk about it, she can explain why. But

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I said, OK, if we're going to let it ride, where

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are we going to ride? We're going to drive south.

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Well, as Jesse alluded to. I was nine when Slow

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Turning came out and it was the album that I

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heard the most in the car because I wasn't yet

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driving. And my mom and I took a little trip

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to visit my grandmother in Florida from Boston.

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And she thought it would just be so sweet every

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time that Drive South came on to sing to me with

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the one you love. Yes, it has a very sentimental

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meaning to me. And it's a great song. You know,

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another of the things that I picked up from Lynn

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and Todd is that you really can't go wrong if

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you're throwing something on a mixtape with either

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track one or track three, because artists almost

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always put their bangers there to grab your attention

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and then keep you hooked. This is a classic example

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of a track one that just really sets off the

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album slow turning. which is his, I think, signature

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album that really let it all out of the gates.

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And I love that we are continuing going back

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in time, but keeping that same band. So we've

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got that continuity of the mixtape going. So

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I absolutely support this choice. I love the

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song. I'm going to finish your lyrics, Jesse,

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because you started it with, we're always looking

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for true north, but you can't say that and not

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say with our head in the clouds, just a little

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off course. I love this song. You mentioned Suzy

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Bogus' cover, which reached number two on the

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Billboard U .S. Hot Country Songs chart. Kelly

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Willis recorded a version on her 1990 debut album,

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Well -Traveled Love. And the Forrester sisters,

00:16:04.529 --> 00:16:07.029
featuring the Bellamy brothers, covered this

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song on their 1990 album, Come Hold Me, which

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that version reached number 63 on the Billboard

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U .S. Hot Country Songs charts. I never looked

00:16:18.429 --> 00:16:21.429
at John Hyatt as a country artist. I looked at

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him always as a rock artist, but there's something

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about his sound that translates so effortlessly

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to country music. And I know we're only talking

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about 12 songs tonight, but I can pretty much

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guarantee, at least from my bank, that there's

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going to be at least one or two songs where we

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talk about the fact that John Hyatt is a songwriter's

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songwriter. For somebody who loves songwriting,

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John Hyatt is one of the best. And he is one

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of those people that when you say his name to

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the average music listener, they might go, that

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name sounds familiar. I don't know where it rings

00:17:03.740 --> 00:17:06.700
a bell. And then you start rattling off all the

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songs he's written that other artists have taken

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to stratospheric heights. And it's absolutely

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mind -blowing. And I think I'm going to use that

00:17:17.450 --> 00:17:23.430
mindset along with the road trip mindset that

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Sylvan, you started with Let It Ride and Jesse,

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you continued with Drive South because we're

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still on the road and we're going to go back

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to the title track from 1983's Riding With The

00:17:35.490 --> 00:17:39.490
King. Well done. Yes, well done. Thinking about

00:17:39.490 --> 00:17:45.519
cover songs here, you can't not. talk about B

00:17:45.519 --> 00:17:48.319
.B. King and Eric Clapton who covered the song

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for the album of the same name. John rewrote

00:17:51.220 --> 00:17:54.019
some of the lyrics for their version, but come

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on, this is an all -killer, no -filler rendition.

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I mean, how could it not be with B .B. King and

00:18:01.759 --> 00:18:04.579
Eric Clapton together? But it just goes to show

00:18:04.579 --> 00:18:09.220
that if those two giants are looking to a John

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Hyatt song, for inspiration, for a good track,

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and for an album title, that just escalates John

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Hyatt's credibility as far as I'm concerned.

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But on top of B .B. King and Eric Clapton, if

00:18:22.769 --> 00:18:25.950
we want to keep that blues theme going, recent

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My Weekly Mixtape guest Joe Bonamassa also covered

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the song with Mahalia Barnes as a bonus studio

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track at the end of his Live at the Greek Theater

00:18:36.869 --> 00:18:40.539
album. His version was called Riding with the

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Kings with an S because that live album was actually

00:18:44.839 --> 00:18:49.299
a tribute to three kings, Freddie King, Albert

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King, and the aforementioned B .B. King. So when

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all of that points back to John Hyatt and we've

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got this road trip vibe going so far, Riding

00:19:00.940 --> 00:19:04.480
with the King. I love that you reached back a

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little bit further. And yeah, everything that

00:19:06.400 --> 00:19:10.160
you said about the song being covered by multiple

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people and what better pedigree of musicians

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could you ask for than B .B. King and Eric Clapton.

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It's a perfect little cruiser. And you can't

00:19:20.799 --> 00:19:25.299
imagine not riding along in a Cadillac as you

00:19:25.299 --> 00:19:29.059
listen to this song. So it also fits the mixtape

00:19:29.059 --> 00:19:32.579
for a great drive in my. perspective that it

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kind of transports you to maybe even a better

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life and a better set of wheels than what you

00:19:37.339 --> 00:19:41.700
might be riding along in. And yeah, I think that's

00:19:41.700 --> 00:19:45.619
a great new direction to put us in. Yeah, I think

00:19:45.619 --> 00:19:48.460
between Let It Ride and Drive South, there was

00:19:48.460 --> 00:19:52.079
this upbeat, happy road trip vibe. But Riding

00:19:52.079 --> 00:19:56.339
with the King has that black sunglasses, top

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down on the convertible, arm hanging out the

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side. joe cool if you remember snoopy look happening

00:20:04.660 --> 00:20:08.500
there's a swagger to that guitar riff that just

00:20:08.500 --> 00:20:12.319
oozes personality so it's one of my favorite

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riffs by him and obviously if it caught the attention

00:20:14.500 --> 00:20:16.900
of those other artists yeah you must be doing

00:20:16.900 --> 00:20:20.119
something right all right i i can't not actually

00:20:20.119 --> 00:20:22.240
give a little bit away since we haven't talked

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about that song that uh John actually borrowed

00:20:24.839 --> 00:20:27.839
that guitar from Nick Lowe. And when he came

00:20:27.839 --> 00:20:30.160
up with that lick and he came up with that performance

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that's captured on Riding with the King, Nick

00:20:33.380 --> 00:20:36.900
Lowe said, that guitar is yours now. And so I

00:20:36.900 --> 00:20:39.119
love that. And I think it says everything you

00:20:39.119 --> 00:20:40.700
need to know about the performance that gets

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captured there. Yeah, I could talk an hour about

00:20:44.220 --> 00:20:47.519
this song, but I will not. If you are a regular

00:20:47.519 --> 00:20:50.420
listener to Perfectly Good Podcast, you know

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that... Slugline was the first CD that my wife,

00:20:55.150 --> 00:20:58.609
at the time was my girlfriend, exposed me to,

00:20:58.650 --> 00:21:01.470
and it was John Hyatt. And as the new albums

00:21:01.470 --> 00:21:05.150
came, I liked John Hyatt because I was dating

00:21:05.150 --> 00:21:08.430
Linda, and Linda liked John Hyatt. And when I

00:21:08.430 --> 00:21:11.910
got Riding with the King on cassette, that became

00:21:11.910 --> 00:21:16.609
my first... John Hyatt album. It became the album

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that I went, oh, I'm not liking this because

00:21:20.190 --> 00:21:24.690
I'm dating Linda. I'm liking this because I love

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this cassette. And so I'm thrilled every time

00:21:29.349 --> 00:21:32.369
he does it live. I think it's a perfect, you

00:21:32.369 --> 00:21:35.849
know, kind of cap to our little trilogy. We're

00:21:35.849 --> 00:21:39.869
starting out with a threefer. like the old FM

00:21:39.869 --> 00:21:41.890
stations used to do. They do, you know, three

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of a kind. I'm so glad that we got something

00:21:45.089 --> 00:21:50.609
free trilogy. And this is just, it's wonderful.

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And I would be remiss if I didn't mention my

00:21:54.170 --> 00:21:56.170
favorite lyrics in the songs. I didn't get to

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that part, but. Well, I stepped out a mirror

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at 10 years old with a suit cut sharp as a razor

00:22:02.779 --> 00:22:05.759
and a heart of gold. I had a guitar hanging just

00:22:05.759 --> 00:22:08.220
above waist high, and I'm going to play that

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thing until the day I die. Sylvan, back to you

00:22:12.460 --> 00:22:16.140
for track four. All right. Thank you, Brian,

00:22:16.319 --> 00:22:19.160
for mentioning the dates that we're going through

00:22:19.160 --> 00:22:23.130
so far. I really felt that it was important to

00:22:23.130 --> 00:22:26.470
not just have a taste of the classic John that

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we know and love and might instantly come to

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mind when we're thinking about what are the songs

00:22:31.150 --> 00:22:34.069
that we need to put on our mixtape. I felt that

00:22:34.069 --> 00:22:37.930
we absolutely need to make sure that we represent

00:22:37.930 --> 00:22:41.930
the new John Hyatt, or at least newer John Hyatt.

00:22:50.349 --> 00:22:55.150
came out, I instantly wanted to get in my car

00:22:55.150 --> 00:22:57.710
and drive around and listen to over and over

00:22:57.710 --> 00:23:01.009
again, which again is my affiliation with or

00:23:01.009 --> 00:23:05.750
association with a mixtape. And I had to go with

00:23:05.750 --> 00:23:08.890
a song produced by Kevin Shirley with a great

00:23:08.890 --> 00:23:12.509
rocking tone and a great sing -along chorus.

00:23:12.789 --> 00:23:15.430
So I'm going all the way to Mystic Pinball in

00:23:15.430 --> 00:23:21.700
2012 for We're All Right Now. I defy you to listen

00:23:21.700 --> 00:23:25.400
to that and not tap your toe on the gas pedal

00:23:25.400 --> 00:23:29.420
a little bit and to sing along. So let's get

00:23:29.420 --> 00:23:32.319
the energy back up from that kind of dark place

00:23:32.319 --> 00:23:34.980
from Riding with the King. It feels good like

00:23:34.980 --> 00:23:37.339
eating ice cream. So I got to have a little bit

00:23:37.339 --> 00:23:42.339
every day. Yeah, I love that we picked something

00:23:42.339 --> 00:23:46.259
because it's really easy. And I was guilty of

00:23:46.259 --> 00:23:51.680
it. The core. hyatt albums are really hard not

00:23:51.680 --> 00:23:56.140
to go since we're only doing only doing you know

00:23:56.140 --> 00:23:59.240
this limited amount of songs so i was really

00:23:59.240 --> 00:24:01.700
glad you picked it we haven't talked about it

00:24:01.700 --> 00:24:04.420
yet i'm really looking forward because it's a

00:24:04.420 --> 00:24:08.960
w and uh as sylvan likes to remind our listeners

00:24:08.960 --> 00:24:11.539
you know when we signed up for this one of the

00:24:11.539 --> 00:24:15.960
things i said Is that if we start, we got to

00:24:15.960 --> 00:24:20.359
finish. And so as we're on L's, we've got a little

00:24:20.359 --> 00:24:22.559
bit of a highway in front of us. Great choice.

00:24:22.819 --> 00:24:26.339
I love this one. The sun comes up every morning,

00:24:26.359 --> 00:24:29.180
even when it's too cloudy to see. I was willing

00:24:29.180 --> 00:24:31.839
to lose that years ago. Don't know what was the

00:24:31.839 --> 00:24:34.960
matter with me. I'm so happy we're getting into

00:24:34.960 --> 00:24:39.079
the new West records phase because. His run from

00:24:39.079 --> 00:24:43.079
2003's Beneath This Gruff Exterior through 2021's

00:24:43.079 --> 00:24:44.980
Leftover Feelings that I mentioned at the top

00:24:44.980 --> 00:24:49.579
of the show is truly an era for Hyatt. And I'm

00:24:49.579 --> 00:24:52.839
using quote marks because it's his longest era,

00:24:52.960 --> 00:24:54.799
if you really think about it. It's been running

00:24:54.799 --> 00:24:59.180
strong for over 20 years now. And Mystic Pinball,

00:24:59.299 --> 00:25:04.279
to me, might be the chef's kiss of the new West

00:25:04.279 --> 00:25:08.369
Records phase of all the albums. I actually had

00:25:08.369 --> 00:25:11.109
two songs from the album in my bank tonight.

00:25:11.549 --> 00:25:15.309
And that was the back to back my business. And

00:25:15.309 --> 00:25:18.150
I just don't know what to say. So when you talk

00:25:18.150 --> 00:25:21.950
about songs that go from one side of the spectrum

00:25:21.950 --> 00:25:25.029
to the other, it was those two songs. And depending

00:25:25.029 --> 00:25:28.230
on where we went, I figured my business has that

00:25:28.230 --> 00:25:32.349
boppy upbeat stomp to it. And I just don't know

00:25:32.349 --> 00:25:36.049
what to say is an absolutely gorgeous track.

00:25:36.670 --> 00:25:39.990
But We're All Right Now has this feeling and

00:25:39.990 --> 00:25:43.230
vibe to it that does play along with the songs

00:25:43.230 --> 00:25:46.170
we've been talking about so far. And like I said,

00:25:46.289 --> 00:25:49.490
you can't go wrong with the New West phase. But

00:25:49.490 --> 00:25:53.369
it's probably the most underrated phase of his

00:25:53.369 --> 00:25:55.769
career because most people go to the 80s stuff

00:25:55.769 --> 00:25:59.509
like both of you talked about. And then his 90s

00:25:59.509 --> 00:26:02.410
stuff that maybe we'll get to tonight because

00:26:02.410 --> 00:26:04.589
we haven't touched on the 90s yet. I don't know.

00:26:04.630 --> 00:26:08.799
I don't want to assume here. So with that, Jesse,

00:26:09.140 --> 00:26:12.460
we are back to you to follow up. We're all right

00:26:12.460 --> 00:26:19.059
now. So I loved that twist from Sylvan, and I

00:26:19.059 --> 00:26:23.920
debated on picking something from this new West

00:26:23.920 --> 00:26:28.660
era. But I really, when we talked about that,

00:26:28.859 --> 00:26:33.829
Sylvan said that push comes to shove. Let It

00:26:33.829 --> 00:26:37.430
Ride might be her favorite John Hyatt song. You

00:26:37.430 --> 00:26:39.950
know, it's hard to pin down, but if you had to.

00:26:40.450 --> 00:26:45.230
And I got to thinking, what would mine be? And

00:26:45.230 --> 00:26:48.470
I realized it's Your Dad Did from Bring the Family.

00:26:49.130 --> 00:26:53.750
I loved that whole album, but something about

00:26:53.750 --> 00:26:59.190
that song. The humor in it, the vision of your

00:26:59.190 --> 00:27:03.390
wife with the house slightly undone, you know,

00:27:03.430 --> 00:27:08.190
the oatmeal on your son and just this image.

00:27:08.470 --> 00:27:12.670
And I feel that way sometimes as a father, just

00:27:12.670 --> 00:27:15.849
trying to keep everything going and the mass

00:27:15.849 --> 00:27:20.349
chaos. And you love your wife and kids just like

00:27:20.349 --> 00:27:23.670
your dad did. We're all imperfect as fathers.

00:27:24.349 --> 00:27:28.309
But we try to do the best we can. And I could

00:27:28.309 --> 00:27:30.730
sit here and quote the whole song because the

00:27:30.730 --> 00:27:34.529
lyrics just, you know, you go buy a new car just

00:27:34.529 --> 00:27:38.289
to hide how scared you feel and all this stuff.

00:27:38.410 --> 00:27:41.309
So I'm like, OK, I don't know if it fits the

00:27:41.309 --> 00:27:43.869
pattern as much, but I am going to just personal.

00:27:44.369 --> 00:27:47.509
I've got to get your dad in. And also, I think

00:27:47.509 --> 00:27:51.960
this shows John's humor. So if someone is watching

00:27:51.960 --> 00:27:54.799
along with this, you go, oh, wait a minute. This

00:27:54.799 --> 00:27:59.039
guy can put his tongue firmly in his cheek and

00:27:59.039 --> 00:28:02.299
have a little fun with it. Agreed, Jesse. And

00:28:02.299 --> 00:28:06.599
I think another part of John's very unique skill

00:28:06.599 --> 00:28:10.099
as a songwriter is to make these characters that

00:28:10.099 --> 00:28:14.339
live and breathe well beyond the three minutes

00:28:14.339 --> 00:28:17.460
of the song that we hear. And this is a perfect

00:28:17.460 --> 00:28:22.460
example of. You feel like you spent at least

00:28:22.460 --> 00:28:25.759
two hours worth of a movie hearing about this

00:28:25.759 --> 00:28:28.599
person in Your Dad Did. And it could be, John,

00:28:28.720 --> 00:28:32.539
it could be another version of a fictional character.

00:28:33.079 --> 00:28:37.539
And it would be really lacking in our mixtape

00:28:37.539 --> 00:28:41.119
if we didn't have something with as good of a

00:28:41.119 --> 00:28:46.109
line as... May my brother's hamster burn in hell,

00:28:46.309 --> 00:28:49.289
which just comes out of nowhere. And I think

00:28:49.289 --> 00:28:52.849
it's a great example of how John Hyatt can grab

00:28:52.849 --> 00:28:56.109
you with some lyrics and at the same time make

00:28:56.109 --> 00:28:59.910
you laugh, but also make you think about how

00:28:59.910 --> 00:29:03.230
humans relate to each other. And I will tip my

00:29:03.230 --> 00:29:05.069
hand a little bit since it is going to be so

00:29:05.069 --> 00:29:07.329
long until we talk about this, that the very

00:29:07.329 --> 00:29:11.859
first time I met Lily Hyatt. I had to ask her,

00:29:11.900 --> 00:29:14.180
I said, you've probably heard this a thousand

00:29:14.180 --> 00:29:17.819
times, but did you actually sit at the dinner

00:29:17.819 --> 00:29:20.619
table and pray for your brother's hamster to

00:29:20.619 --> 00:29:24.220
go to hell? And she laughed and said, you know,

00:29:24.279 --> 00:29:26.579
no one has ever asked me that. And I honestly

00:29:26.579 --> 00:29:29.380
don't know the answer, but I suspect I did because

00:29:29.380 --> 00:29:33.079
I was a pretty bratty kid. So hopefully we'll

00:29:33.079 --> 00:29:36.579
have her join for your dad did. And yeah, I think

00:29:36.579 --> 00:29:40.450
a mix without. All of these things, the great

00:29:40.450 --> 00:29:43.970
funky rhythms that he got in there, the absolute

00:29:43.970 --> 00:29:48.069
joy of family. Because if you think about John

00:29:48.069 --> 00:29:51.390
Hyatt, we talk about his recovery trilogy in

00:29:51.390 --> 00:29:55.329
that he found a new family with his third wife

00:29:55.329 --> 00:29:59.880
and they had a baby together. I don't think you

00:29:59.880 --> 00:30:02.480
can separate the two of John Hyatt, the family

00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:04.799
man, and John Hyatt, the successful musician.

00:30:05.299 --> 00:30:08.359
So this song is a perfect addition to our mixtape.

00:30:08.599 --> 00:30:12.579
I will tell you, I have that sense of joy and

00:30:12.579 --> 00:30:15.779
surprise every time I hear the song. Like the

00:30:15.779 --> 00:30:18.259
first time I heard Help the Starving Children

00:30:18.259 --> 00:30:21.579
to Get Well and I Hope My Brother's Hamster Burns

00:30:21.579 --> 00:30:24.339
in Hell. When you heard it the first time, it

00:30:24.339 --> 00:30:28.359
was amazingly funny. And I get that same feeling.

00:30:28.670 --> 00:30:31.789
Every time I hear it. Yeah, absolutely. It doesn't

00:30:31.789 --> 00:30:33.710
matter that you already know the ending. It's

00:30:33.710 --> 00:30:35.890
the journey that he takes you on every time you

00:30:35.890 --> 00:30:38.309
hear the song. Of course. And I think that's

00:30:38.309 --> 00:30:40.990
a hysterical line in the song. My personal favorite

00:30:40.990 --> 00:30:44.109
line, because as an only child, I've been told

00:30:44.109 --> 00:30:47.970
this many a times, at least the first part, you're

00:30:47.970 --> 00:30:50.869
a chip off the old block. Why does it come as

00:30:50.869 --> 00:30:53.990
such a shock that every road up which you rock,

00:30:54.230 --> 00:30:58.420
your dad already did? As a father and a son,

00:30:58.640 --> 00:31:01.819
there's something about that set of lyrics that

00:31:01.819 --> 00:31:05.460
just really hits home for me. We talked about

00:31:05.460 --> 00:31:07.500
the lyrics, the lyrics, the lyrics, and the story

00:31:07.500 --> 00:31:10.579
behind the song, but let's not minimize the guitar

00:31:10.579 --> 00:31:13.660
work in this song. That opening walk down on

00:31:13.660 --> 00:31:16.240
the guitar that harmonizes and builds at the

00:31:16.240 --> 00:31:18.640
beginning. And I mean, you think about the lineup

00:31:18.640 --> 00:31:22.500
of John with Rye Cooter and Jim Keltner and Nick

00:31:22.500 --> 00:31:25.319
Lowe. I know we talk about Slow Turning being

00:31:25.319 --> 00:31:28.640
the John Hyatt album, but Bring the Family, you

00:31:28.640 --> 00:31:31.819
don't get to a Slow Turning without Bring the

00:31:31.819 --> 00:31:34.119
Family's success. And I feel like he was on the

00:31:34.119 --> 00:31:37.000
way to Slow Turning on this album. And for some

00:31:37.000 --> 00:31:39.779
reason, those two albums feel like they're cut

00:31:39.779 --> 00:31:42.140
from the same block, if you will, at least from

00:31:42.140 --> 00:31:45.920
a frame of mind he was in as a songwriter at

00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:48.680
the time. Yeah, I think it was the start of him.

00:31:49.240 --> 00:31:52.220
trying to be true to himself as opposed to letting

00:31:52.220 --> 00:31:54.680
the record companies tell him, you're going to

00:31:54.680 --> 00:31:57.460
be the next Elvis Costello or you're going to

00:31:57.460 --> 00:32:00.420
be the next folk singer, blues singer, whatever.

00:32:00.660 --> 00:32:04.099
He just decided to be himself. Before there was

00:32:04.099 --> 00:32:07.319
ever a genre called Americana, John Hyatt was

00:32:07.319 --> 00:32:11.140
blazing this path with those two albums and everything

00:32:11.140 --> 00:32:14.559
that came after, I would argue, that was this

00:32:14.559 --> 00:32:18.039
new sound that was based in heartfelt truth.

00:32:19.179 --> 00:32:22.259
And Groots Rock and all of those things that

00:32:22.259 --> 00:32:25.579
you were just talking about, Brian. Well, we're

00:32:25.579 --> 00:32:29.000
at the halfway mark now for track six, and we

00:32:29.000 --> 00:32:31.059
haven't hit the 90s yet. So I have to put an

00:32:31.059 --> 00:32:33.680
end to that right now. And I'm just going to

00:32:33.680 --> 00:32:36.880
go to the year I graduated high school, the year

00:32:36.880 --> 00:32:39.400
I started college. It's a very big year for me.

00:32:39.480 --> 00:32:43.640
It's the year I discovered John Hyatt. But I'm

00:32:43.640 --> 00:32:45.980
not going to pick. The song that I discovered

00:32:45.980 --> 00:32:47.980
him with just yet. I'm going to pick one of my

00:32:47.980 --> 00:32:51.000
favorites, similar to what Jesse did. And it's

00:32:51.000 --> 00:32:53.839
a different vibe because the heart won't remember

00:32:53.839 --> 00:32:57.140
the burning fire the next time you feel the flame

00:32:57.140 --> 00:33:01.559
of desire. From 1995's Walk On, I'm going to

00:33:01.559 --> 00:33:05.720
go with Cry Love. This entire song screams out

00:33:05.720 --> 00:33:09.940
to me that it's better to have lost a love than

00:33:09.940 --> 00:33:12.839
never to have loved at all. And there's something

00:33:12.839 --> 00:33:15.769
about... The chorus of the song, when he hits

00:33:15.769 --> 00:33:18.769
those high notes, it literally, I'm just talking

00:33:18.769 --> 00:33:21.990
to you about it and the hair on my arms standing

00:33:21.990 --> 00:33:26.369
up because this song, every time I hear it, just

00:33:26.369 --> 00:33:30.890
makes me feel what he's singing about. I saw

00:33:30.890 --> 00:33:33.950
him in Rutland, Vermont. I want to say the year

00:33:33.950 --> 00:33:38.509
was 2008 and his version of Cry Love with the

00:33:38.509 --> 00:33:41.250
trio moved me to tears. It was just gorgeous.

00:33:42.519 --> 00:33:46.319
This song is beautiful and the timing of it has

00:33:46.319 --> 00:33:48.980
this backbeat through the whole song. But at

00:33:48.980 --> 00:33:51.039
the end, they just start rocking out to it and

00:33:51.039 --> 00:33:53.460
it kind of brings you out of it and brings you

00:33:53.460 --> 00:33:56.740
into the rockier side of John Hyatt. So it kind

00:33:56.740 --> 00:34:00.099
of encompasses everything I love about his music.

00:34:00.359 --> 00:34:02.779
It's pulling on the heartstrings. It's emotional,

00:34:02.980 --> 00:34:05.660
but it also rocks. It's a little bit of everything

00:34:05.660 --> 00:34:09.019
I love about John Hyatt. So cry love to follow

00:34:09.019 --> 00:34:13.789
up your dad did. I love the transition from what

00:34:13.789 --> 00:34:17.489
was Little Village in a prototype of the Bring

00:34:17.489 --> 00:34:20.730
the Family to the Nashville Queens with that

00:34:20.730 --> 00:34:26.449
very trademark mandolin and the sound that Capitol

00:34:26.449 --> 00:34:29.489
Records just really kind of polished up like

00:34:29.489 --> 00:34:31.949
a beautiful stone. And we're definitely going

00:34:31.949 --> 00:34:34.550
to have to talk. after the podcast about seeing

00:34:34.550 --> 00:34:36.610
him at the Paramount because I'm sure I was at

00:34:36.610 --> 00:34:40.989
that show if it was after 1995, which is when,

00:34:41.030 --> 00:34:43.449
of course, this album came out. And yeah, I think

00:34:43.449 --> 00:34:47.030
this mixtape would not be complete with something

00:34:47.030 --> 00:34:50.030
from that era. And I think this is a great choice.

00:34:50.210 --> 00:34:54.130
It was his radio hit. You heard it a lot more

00:34:54.130 --> 00:34:58.630
than some of his previous singles. And it just

00:34:58.630 --> 00:35:03.260
tells a beautiful story. of heartbreak. It's

00:35:03.260 --> 00:35:05.599
one of those third -person narratives that I

00:35:05.599 --> 00:35:09.840
think John does very well. And it's just a rocker.

00:35:09.880 --> 00:35:12.659
I can't say anything aside from that, only that

00:35:12.659 --> 00:35:15.840
it's just a well -chosen. And if we're trying

00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:19.079
to hit all the little sounds that John Hyatt

00:35:19.079 --> 00:35:21.900
has done over the course of his career, we need

00:35:21.900 --> 00:35:25.119
this. And I think it's a great choice. John will

00:35:25.119 --> 00:35:30.039
use his voice as an instrument. And this is,

00:35:30.079 --> 00:35:33.539
I think, a great example of him using the voice

00:35:33.539 --> 00:35:38.219
to sell the emotion, to sell the story, to using

00:35:38.219 --> 00:35:43.460
it. And he changes his pacing. And, you know,

00:35:43.480 --> 00:35:46.639
sometimes he's holding out vowels. Other times

00:35:46.639 --> 00:35:50.480
he's staccato. And so I just think this is a

00:35:50.480 --> 00:35:54.460
really another really great song that really

00:35:54.460 --> 00:35:57.519
fits. We're really cooking now. And for those

00:35:57.519 --> 00:35:59.599
listening, just a reminder, you could hear all

00:35:59.599 --> 00:36:02.400
the songs we've discussed in this mix through

00:36:02.400 --> 00:36:06.340
the playlist embedded on the episode page. Now

00:36:06.340 --> 00:36:09.059
with that, Sylvan, we are on to the second half

00:36:09.059 --> 00:36:13.039
of our 12 song John Hyatt mixtape. So I'm going

00:36:13.039 --> 00:36:16.159
to throw it back to you for track seven. Okay.

00:36:16.179 --> 00:36:18.920
And I have to throw back to the advice of my

00:36:18.920 --> 00:36:21.099
aunt and uncle that said, when you turn over

00:36:21.099 --> 00:36:24.440
the mixtape. All the bets are off. You don't

00:36:24.440 --> 00:36:27.179
have to continue on with the tone that was set

00:36:27.179 --> 00:36:29.920
because we're on a brand new side. And that was

00:36:29.920 --> 00:36:32.900
the impression that I wanted to give here that

00:36:32.900 --> 00:36:37.159
we're starting all over again. And of that note,

00:36:37.480 --> 00:36:42.079
I myself am arguing about the choice that I've

00:36:42.079 --> 00:36:45.039
made with my pick because it seems like the deepest

00:36:45.039 --> 00:36:49.519
sacrilege to say that anything. But the version

00:36:49.519 --> 00:36:51.860
of this song that appears on Bring the Family

00:36:51.860 --> 00:36:56.579
should be presented at any time. But I decided

00:36:56.579 --> 00:37:00.400
if we are really talking about the ultimate John

00:37:00.400 --> 00:37:05.460
Hyatt mixtape, we have to allow for his revisioning

00:37:05.460 --> 00:37:08.860
of his classic song, Have Little Faith in Me.

00:37:09.059 --> 00:37:13.559
So it had to be on the mixtape. And John said

00:37:13.559 --> 00:37:16.639
that when this version got made for the best

00:37:16.639 --> 00:37:20.480
of, he felt it was like he had originally wanted

00:37:20.480 --> 00:37:23.159
to hear Have Little Faith in Me. So I'm talking

00:37:23.159 --> 00:37:25.539
the version that starts with that stark piano

00:37:25.539 --> 00:37:29.099
that we all love and then widens up to a full

00:37:29.099 --> 00:37:34.079
band version with a gospel choir. And there are

00:37:34.079 --> 00:37:38.300
wonderful lyrics in all of John's songs. This

00:37:38.300 --> 00:37:40.539
is the one that people have chosen over and over

00:37:40.539 --> 00:37:44.199
again as their wedding song. It is poetic in

00:37:44.199 --> 00:37:48.000
its simplicity. And there's no better way to

00:37:48.000 --> 00:37:51.420
say, give me your love. I want to walk through

00:37:51.420 --> 00:37:54.340
this journey with you than to say, have a little

00:37:54.340 --> 00:37:58.159
faith in me. And it needed to be on here. And

00:37:58.159 --> 00:38:00.420
I'm just kind of tickled that I got to be the

00:38:00.420 --> 00:38:04.019
one to pick it. Yeah, I'm so glad you did. One

00:38:04.019 --> 00:38:07.449
of the things that... Sylvan and I really were

00:38:07.449 --> 00:38:10.909
worried about is how do we do justice on this

00:38:10.909 --> 00:38:15.090
song when we're discussing it? And we ended up

00:38:15.090 --> 00:38:19.389
having a couple of guests join us and we've been

00:38:19.389 --> 00:38:23.539
two hours. But that was partly because we asked

00:38:23.539 --> 00:38:27.000
people to send in their thoughts of the song.

00:38:27.179 --> 00:38:31.280
And so we added people calling and sharing. And

00:38:31.280 --> 00:38:34.179
I believe there may be a voice that's kind of

00:38:34.179 --> 00:38:36.659
familiar if you listen to that episode. There

00:38:36.659 --> 00:38:39.079
might be a guy on there. I feel like I've heard

00:38:39.079 --> 00:38:41.500
that voice before. Maybe when it's in my head.

00:38:41.559 --> 00:38:44.980
I don't know. Yeah. And the other reason I think

00:38:44.980 --> 00:38:48.219
this is perfect to start out the second half.

00:38:49.150 --> 00:38:53.730
is when i talk to someone and they'll go i don't

00:38:53.730 --> 00:38:56.829
know who john hyatt is i'll say you know i'll

00:38:56.829 --> 00:38:59.309
name a couple of songs and then i said and probably

00:38:59.309 --> 00:39:03.730
if you heard have a little faith in me you would

00:39:03.730 --> 00:39:06.730
go oh that song that i've heard in the movies

00:39:06.730 --> 00:39:09.909
and tv all the time and so i think by having

00:39:09.909 --> 00:39:14.489
a copy of that i mean we ended up dozens of covers

00:39:14.489 --> 00:39:17.519
right sylvan that and we ended up just uncle

00:39:17.519 --> 00:39:19.679
because they just kept giving, giving and giving.

00:39:19.820 --> 00:39:22.940
So I think this is a perfect way to start the

00:39:22.940 --> 00:39:25.760
second half. Look, I want to take nothing away

00:39:25.760 --> 00:39:28.500
from 1987's Bring the Family version because

00:39:28.500 --> 00:39:30.380
that's the one that we all got introduced to

00:39:30.380 --> 00:39:33.440
it with. I feel like if he was going to reimagine

00:39:33.440 --> 00:39:36.940
it, you had to do a 180 because the original

00:39:36.940 --> 00:39:40.579
is so perfect in its simplicity that if he just

00:39:40.579 --> 00:39:43.099
tried to recreate that magic, you were not going

00:39:43.099 --> 00:39:45.909
to get that lightning in a bottle. That original

00:39:45.909 --> 00:39:48.929
version is simply perfect. It's on every one

00:39:48.929 --> 00:39:51.590
of my mellow playlists, on my acoustic playlists.

00:39:51.869 --> 00:39:55.610
It's perfect. But to reimagine it the way he

00:39:55.610 --> 00:39:59.190
did, to me, you could listen to both songs back

00:39:59.190 --> 00:40:02.869
to back, and it's two completely different experiences

00:40:02.869 --> 00:40:06.929
that are both uniquely John Hyatt. You talked

00:40:06.929 --> 00:40:11.320
cover songs, Jesse. When I chimed in on the Have

00:40:11.320 --> 00:40:13.280
a Little Faith in Me episode for Perfectly Good

00:40:13.280 --> 00:40:16.800
Podcast, I mentioned Joe Cocker's version. I

00:40:16.800 --> 00:40:19.239
mentioned Jewel's version from the Phenomenon

00:40:19.239 --> 00:40:23.139
movie. I mentioned Simmel's version, which people

00:40:23.139 --> 00:40:25.699
might not be familiar with, but it was featured

00:40:25.699 --> 00:40:28.900
in a Virgin River episode last year. And at the

00:40:28.900 --> 00:40:32.480
time I sent you my little clip, it was at 180

00:40:32.480 --> 00:40:36.940
,000 views on YouTube. It's up over 250 now.

00:40:37.840 --> 00:40:40.619
So this song has staying power. Oh, and I also

00:40:40.619 --> 00:40:42.940
have to mention The Electric Mayhem, because

00:40:42.940 --> 00:40:45.679
if Dr. Teeth and The Electric Mayhem are covering

00:40:45.679 --> 00:40:49.239
a John Hyatt song, that hit me on so many levels

00:40:49.239 --> 00:40:51.440
because that tugged on my heartstrings because

00:40:51.440 --> 00:40:54.780
I love the song. But it also was my youth paying

00:40:54.780 --> 00:40:57.380
respect to an artist I love as an adult. So there

00:40:57.380 --> 00:41:01.239
was just so many just levels of awesomeness in

00:41:01.239 --> 00:41:04.440
that version. And then lyrics right from the

00:41:04.440 --> 00:41:07.429
jump. When the road gets dark and you can no

00:41:07.429 --> 00:41:10.889
longer see, just let my love throw a spark and

00:41:10.889 --> 00:41:13.389
have a little faith in me. Shout out again to

00:41:13.389 --> 00:41:16.309
Patreon mixtaper Chad LaMassa, who chimed in

00:41:16.309 --> 00:41:19.409
with this one. I think it would be a sacrilege

00:41:19.409 --> 00:41:21.829
if we did not have Have a Little Faith in Me

00:41:21.829 --> 00:41:25.170
in the first 12 songs. So I'm glad we got to

00:41:25.170 --> 00:41:27.530
it. And with that, Jesse, you have a tough decision

00:41:27.530 --> 00:41:30.489
to make here because you have to follow up one

00:41:30.489 --> 00:41:33.610
of John's most beloved songs. So where do we

00:41:33.610 --> 00:41:37.559
go from here? So I'm going to stay similar theme

00:41:37.559 --> 00:41:41.019
and also another shout out to one of your patrons.

00:41:41.159 --> 00:41:44.699
Right. And you ask, what am I not doing? She

00:41:44.699 --> 00:41:48.219
says, your voice cannot command in time. You

00:41:48.219 --> 00:41:52.239
will move mountains and it will come through

00:41:52.239 --> 00:41:57.559
your hands. My favorite line from the song. Betsy

00:41:57.559 --> 00:42:01.239
Hodges was on my set. Leslie Bruce podcast. She

00:42:01.239 --> 00:42:07.139
is a former mayor. And she talked about her sobriety.

00:42:07.599 --> 00:42:13.420
John Hyatt was such a huge influence and inspiration

00:42:13.420 --> 00:42:16.699
for her. She said that when she goes to heaven,

00:42:16.820 --> 00:42:19.019
she's going to ask God, how many times has she

00:42:19.019 --> 00:42:22.880
listened to Thunder Road? But she says that Through

00:42:22.880 --> 00:42:28.159
Your Hands has been one of those that is a hymn

00:42:28.159 --> 00:42:31.579
to her. Through Your Hands has a similar theme.

00:42:32.480 --> 00:42:36.099
And it's just, it is a song that I lose myself

00:42:36.099 --> 00:42:39.380
in, in a different way than Have a Little Faith

00:42:39.380 --> 00:42:44.039
in Me. But the idea that our hands, with these

00:42:44.039 --> 00:42:47.000
hands, we can build a better life and better

00:42:47.000 --> 00:42:50.159
future for each other. And so it just, I had

00:42:50.159 --> 00:42:53.559
to include it. Yeah, I think all of those reasons,

00:42:53.579 --> 00:42:55.699
it does need to be included because it has such

00:42:55.699 --> 00:42:58.679
a beautiful message and it's so well done. I

00:42:58.679 --> 00:43:01.300
also think it's important to include Something

00:43:01.300 --> 00:43:03.800
from Stolen Moments, which is in its own way

00:43:03.800 --> 00:43:07.119
a very unique John Hyatt album that it was made

00:43:07.119 --> 00:43:09.800
with studio musicians as opposed to bands that

00:43:09.800 --> 00:43:12.719
John was working with. It's different that it's

00:43:12.719 --> 00:43:15.239
actually a duet, although of course we've heard

00:43:15.239 --> 00:43:17.179
many a live version where John just sings it

00:43:17.179 --> 00:43:21.659
solo. But I love having that woman's voice to

00:43:21.659 --> 00:43:25.900
kind of really bring home the idea that it's

00:43:25.900 --> 00:43:30.230
this conversation between a person and... higher

00:43:30.230 --> 00:43:34.889
self or an angel as he refers to it. But at its

00:43:34.889 --> 00:43:37.989
best, all art reminds us of our connection and

00:43:37.989 --> 00:43:40.929
our place on the earth. And this does both, that

00:43:40.929 --> 00:43:44.090
he's having a conversation even while really

00:43:44.090 --> 00:43:48.250
doing some ultimate belly button gazing and coming

00:43:48.250 --> 00:43:52.010
up with this universal truth that we're all here

00:43:52.010 --> 00:43:55.590
to do good work and to connect to each other.

00:43:56.719 --> 00:44:01.079
do our best in whatever means that is. And yeah,

00:44:01.239 --> 00:44:05.000
it's beautifully lyrically. It's going to just

00:44:05.000 --> 00:44:08.900
give you the chills musically, and it would be

00:44:08.900 --> 00:44:12.179
incomplete without Through Your Hands. Another

00:44:12.179 --> 00:44:17.400
exercise in songwriting perfection. When you

00:44:17.400 --> 00:44:21.719
have Joan Baez cover the song from her 1992 album,

00:44:21.780 --> 00:44:24.619
Play Me Backwards, when you have David Crosby,

00:44:24.800 --> 00:44:29.940
David Crosby, obviously a guy who's known to

00:44:29.940 --> 00:44:33.800
write a song or two, covered it on his 1993 record

00:44:33.800 --> 00:44:37.420
Thousand Roads. And then Don Henley from some

00:44:37.420 --> 00:44:39.239
band called The Eagles. I don't know. You may

00:44:39.239 --> 00:44:41.679
have heard of him or not. His version from the

00:44:41.679 --> 00:44:44.900
Michael soundtrack actually hit number 33 on

00:44:44.900 --> 00:44:48.239
the U .S. Billboard charts. Those three names

00:44:48.239 --> 00:44:53.119
all looked to John because of this song. And

00:44:53.119 --> 00:44:55.840
these are three names that people look to for

00:44:55.840 --> 00:44:59.699
their songs. So when people look to them and

00:44:59.699 --> 00:45:02.739
they're looking to John, to me, it just elevates

00:45:02.739 --> 00:45:07.360
John's prowess as a songwriter even more. And

00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:09.340
once again, I want to give a shout out to Patreon

00:45:09.340 --> 00:45:11.960
mixtape or Brandon from Virginia who chimed in

00:45:11.960 --> 00:45:15.039
with this one. I couldn't agree more. It is a

00:45:15.039 --> 00:45:18.170
perfect song that. Brandon and I could add to

00:45:18.170 --> 00:45:20.570
the ultimate inspirational rock playlist volume

00:45:20.570 --> 00:45:23.230
two. And I think that might be needed sooner

00:45:23.230 --> 00:45:26.110
rather than later. Yeah. I mean, you think about

00:45:26.110 --> 00:45:29.190
it to an angel bidding down to wrap you in her

00:45:29.190 --> 00:45:32.510
warmest coat. Don't we all want that comfort

00:45:32.510 --> 00:45:35.670
sometime? It just, Oh yeah, absolutely. A hundred

00:45:35.670 --> 00:45:38.969
percent. And now I'm going to borrow a little

00:45:38.969 --> 00:45:40.829
something from Sylvan and a little something

00:45:40.829 --> 00:45:42.949
from you, Jesse Sylvan, you had mentioned all

00:45:42.949 --> 00:45:46.760
bets are off on side B. So I'm going to, Go into

00:45:46.760 --> 00:45:49.139
that. And Jesse, when you were talking about

00:45:49.139 --> 00:45:51.760
your guest who talked about Through Your Hands,

00:45:51.840 --> 00:45:54.719
you had mentioned that she found hope through

00:45:54.719 --> 00:45:57.659
sobriety through that song. And it just made

00:45:57.659 --> 00:46:00.840
me think of this line. I know a drink ain't no

00:46:00.840 --> 00:46:05.000
solution. I ain't had one in 17 years. But if

00:46:05.000 --> 00:46:07.820
that tiki bar was closed tonight, well, I might

00:46:07.820 --> 00:46:11.760
just disappear. The title track to 2001's The

00:46:11.760 --> 00:46:19.030
Tiki Bar Is Open. dark halo over it because it

00:46:19.030 --> 00:46:21.670
was released on 9 -11 so there's this like tough

00:46:21.670 --> 00:46:26.650
exterior layer to this brilliant album his last

00:46:26.650 --> 00:46:30.869
on Vanguard Records and thematically it's a total

00:46:30.869 --> 00:46:33.949
from what you guys were talking about because

00:46:33.949 --> 00:46:38.369
it's John's takedown of consumerism strip malls

00:46:38.369 --> 00:46:44.530
tourist traps and this is John just kind of using

00:46:44.530 --> 00:46:48.530
his music as a way to try to make change in some

00:46:48.530 --> 00:46:51.269
way, shape, or form. And he was once quoted in

00:46:51.269 --> 00:46:54.730
an article saying, for me, the tiki bar being

00:46:54.730 --> 00:46:57.929
open means that Daytona Beach is still there.

00:46:58.369 --> 00:47:01.130
This was his way of saying that an area that

00:47:01.130 --> 00:47:03.530
he loved was changing and changing and changing.

00:47:03.670 --> 00:47:05.929
But as long as that tiki bar was open, there

00:47:05.929 --> 00:47:10.090
was still hope, which ties it into Through Your

00:47:10.090 --> 00:47:12.929
Hands. But musically, it's a little bit of a

00:47:12.929 --> 00:47:15.969
different animal. And it brings us from the late

00:47:15.969 --> 00:47:18.289
90s of Have a Little Faith in Me to the early

00:47:18.289 --> 00:47:21.630
90s of Stolen Moments, brings us into the 2000s

00:47:21.630 --> 00:47:24.590
once again, and just kind of a different vibe.

00:47:24.909 --> 00:47:28.449
So yeah, all bets are off on Side B. And, you

00:47:28.449 --> 00:47:31.750
know, I don't think any mix of John Hyatt would

00:47:31.750 --> 00:47:35.389
be complete without the tiki bar also, because

00:47:35.389 --> 00:47:39.949
it speaks to the, you know, theme of alcoholism,

00:47:39.969 --> 00:47:43.070
but in a way that. only John could. You know,

00:47:43.070 --> 00:47:45.909
it's not crying in my beer. It's not, oh, thank

00:47:45.909 --> 00:47:48.809
the Lord I was saved. And, you know, I did my

00:47:48.809 --> 00:47:52.309
12 steps or whatever. It's acknowledging that

00:47:52.309 --> 00:47:54.849
that darkness is always kind of right there on

00:47:54.849 --> 00:47:57.449
the edges. And to echo what you were saying,

00:47:57.610 --> 00:48:00.630
Brian, about Daytona Beach, I loved when John

00:48:00.630 --> 00:48:03.570
was talking about writing this song, being inspired,

00:48:03.650 --> 00:48:06.449
just driving down the strip and seeing a sign

00:48:06.449 --> 00:48:10.869
and. Having that nostalgia and also this sadness

00:48:10.869 --> 00:48:13.449
at the same time, which I think is very much

00:48:13.449 --> 00:48:16.309
wrapped up in this song. And I think only John

00:48:16.309 --> 00:48:19.869
Hyatt can give us a song that is bittersweet

00:48:19.869 --> 00:48:23.150
in this particular way that you really taste

00:48:23.150 --> 00:48:26.349
the bitter and you really taste the sweet. And

00:48:26.349 --> 00:48:28.889
also, by the way, you just want to get up and

00:48:28.889 --> 00:48:31.510
dance and boogie. Right. It's all of that wrapped

00:48:31.510 --> 00:48:35.849
up in one. And yeah, you need that on a mixtape.

00:48:36.329 --> 00:48:39.829
Yeah. And I also think that including this gives

00:48:39.829 --> 00:48:46.329
you the sing along chorus. John is good at those

00:48:46.329 --> 00:48:50.190
songs as well. And I think when you hear him

00:48:50.190 --> 00:48:54.150
do it live, everyone's joining in on that chorus.

00:48:54.210 --> 00:48:59.369
And it's just in there is this wonderful sense

00:48:59.369 --> 00:49:04.570
of humor. And yeah, I love it. And I'm so happy

00:49:04.570 --> 00:49:07.800
it made the list. Yeah. And I love that we get

00:49:07.800 --> 00:49:11.480
to witness John as a fan in that song with his

00:49:11.480 --> 00:49:15.139
little hat tip to Dale Earnhardt. You know, it's

00:49:15.139 --> 00:49:18.019
so easy for me, especially to put John on a pedestal

00:49:18.019 --> 00:49:21.039
and think like, well, who does John look up to?

00:49:21.320 --> 00:49:25.579
And to hear him give that homage to the man who

00:49:25.579 --> 00:49:28.159
drove the black number three, I thought was really

00:49:28.159 --> 00:49:30.679
lovely, even though I could care less about NASCAR.

00:49:32.960 --> 00:49:35.440
Well, with that, Sylvan, we have one more round

00:49:35.440 --> 00:49:39.719
of songs. So one song choice each. Is this getting

00:49:39.719 --> 00:49:44.260
hard yet? We're back to you for track 10. It

00:49:44.260 --> 00:49:49.440
wasn't hard. It was impossible. You know, I mean,

00:49:49.480 --> 00:49:54.000
literally, if you were to say, OK, you can only.

00:49:54.539 --> 00:49:57.260
Pick four songs, Sylvan, to represent all of

00:49:57.260 --> 00:49:59.599
John. Like, I just I couldn't, even though I

00:49:59.599 --> 00:50:03.059
have done it many times when someone says, OK,

00:50:03.219 --> 00:50:05.480
well, I am interested in this person that you're

00:50:05.480 --> 00:50:07.460
talking about all the time, Sylvan, because believe

00:50:07.460 --> 00:50:09.139
me, you don't want to get stuck in an elevator

00:50:09.139 --> 00:50:13.079
with me talking John Hyatt. Just give me a little

00:50:13.079 --> 00:50:15.559
sampling so I can see if I like him. You know.

00:50:17.099 --> 00:50:19.280
I then have to then ask the person, OK, well,

00:50:19.320 --> 00:50:21.659
tell me your four favorite songs and I will match

00:50:21.659 --> 00:50:24.500
rather than try to pick and choose John Hyatt

00:50:24.500 --> 00:50:29.039
songs myself. Yes. But here we are. This is my

00:50:29.039 --> 00:50:34.019
last pick. What is the song that I truly could

00:50:34.019 --> 00:50:39.860
not live without in a mixtape or in a first draft

00:50:39.860 --> 00:50:45.440
of a sampling of John? It's a song that has always

00:50:45.440 --> 00:50:49.440
meant a lot to me because it was the song that

00:50:49.440 --> 00:50:52.360
my mom used to describe my birthplace of New

00:50:52.360 --> 00:50:55.739
Orleans and give me a little bit of a taste of

00:50:55.739 --> 00:51:00.699
a heritage that I didn't get to experience firsthand

00:51:00.699 --> 00:51:03.619
because I came to New England when I was literally

00:51:03.619 --> 00:51:07.739
days old. But I was always kind of told about

00:51:07.739 --> 00:51:10.000
what it was like in New Orleans and specifically

00:51:10.000 --> 00:51:14.650
this feeling. of when the heat breaks and the

00:51:14.650 --> 00:51:20.289
rain comes in off of the gulf and the ground

00:51:20.289 --> 00:51:25.590
gets cool and there's sticky heat probably the

00:51:25.590 --> 00:51:29.650
best love song ever written to say in the sticky

00:51:29.650 --> 00:51:35.559
heat you open up to me and i got to hear this

00:51:35.559 --> 00:51:39.239
song in New Orleans with a man I love and dance

00:51:39.239 --> 00:51:42.360
in the rain because the Jazz Fest was nearly

00:51:42.360 --> 00:51:47.820
rained out. I could not overlook Feels Like Rain

00:51:47.820 --> 00:51:52.039
to put on this mixtape. Awesome. Yeah, I love

00:51:52.039 --> 00:51:57.380
this song. I love the feeling. It captures such

00:51:57.380 --> 00:52:04.369
a mood. And he played it on Treme. They showed

00:52:04.369 --> 00:52:08.510
a scene of him singing it. And Steve Earle is

00:52:08.510 --> 00:52:11.969
playing a character and he's talking to one of

00:52:11.969 --> 00:52:13.510
the female characters. And I don't remember her

00:52:13.510 --> 00:52:16.769
name, but she thinks the songs about Katrina.

00:52:17.730 --> 00:52:20.929
And and, you know, the Steve Earle character

00:52:20.929 --> 00:52:23.929
says he wrote this years before Katrina. But

00:52:23.929 --> 00:52:26.570
that's what's great about a truly genius song

00:52:26.570 --> 00:52:30.949
is it meaning can change multiple times. You

00:52:30.949 --> 00:52:33.579
know, I love that we're doing this. Up until

00:52:33.579 --> 00:52:37.760
this point, we had not really repeated an album.

00:52:38.280 --> 00:52:42.599
And I'm so glad that Feels Like Rain made it.

00:52:42.659 --> 00:52:47.219
I just get lost in that feeling of him and his

00:52:47.219 --> 00:52:51.400
voice. And it feels like rain. Just, it brings

00:52:51.400 --> 00:52:55.360
me joy. When the clouds blow in across the moon

00:52:55.360 --> 00:52:58.900
and the wind howls out your name, Feels Like

00:52:58.900 --> 00:53:04.409
Rain once again. Cover songs out the wazoo. Aaron

00:53:04.409 --> 00:53:07.550
Neville, 1991, on his album Warm Your Heart.

00:53:07.710 --> 00:53:11.650
And then some guy named Buddy Guy covered the

00:53:11.650 --> 00:53:15.949
song in 1993 and also made it his album's title

00:53:15.949 --> 00:53:19.809
track. Also, if you're a Buddy Guy fan, I just

00:53:19.809 --> 00:53:23.150
recently had on Switchfoot's Tim Foreman, and

00:53:23.150 --> 00:53:26.010
we talked about their collaborative single Last

00:53:26.010 --> 00:53:28.190
Man Standing between Switchfoot and Buddy Guy,

00:53:28.349 --> 00:53:31.329
which is friggin' incredible. But as much as

00:53:31.329 --> 00:53:33.690
I love Buddy, we're here to talk about John Hyatt.

00:53:34.050 --> 00:53:37.670
This song is, I'm so glad you went back to Slow

00:53:37.670 --> 00:53:40.969
Turning. If there was ever an album that was

00:53:40.969 --> 00:53:43.650
going to be repeated, I feel like this was, for

00:53:43.650 --> 00:53:47.730
me, one of the ones that would be. And this is

00:53:47.730 --> 00:53:52.829
an absolute essential. Yes. And I feel like we've

00:53:52.829 --> 00:53:55.309
checked off a few essentials. So there might

00:53:55.309 --> 00:53:57.489
be some John Hyatt fans that are listening to

00:53:57.489 --> 00:54:00.579
this saying, Well, this was on the greatest hits

00:54:00.579 --> 00:54:02.860
and that was on the greatest hits. But I feel

00:54:02.860 --> 00:54:04.840
like we're trying to strike a balance here between

00:54:04.840 --> 00:54:07.280
the hits and some deeper cuts to give somebody

00:54:07.280 --> 00:54:10.380
who doesn't know John Hyatt kind of a spectrum

00:54:10.380 --> 00:54:14.500
of what he's all about. So, Jesse, you and I

00:54:14.500 --> 00:54:19.139
have to follow up a massive hit like feels like

00:54:19.139 --> 00:54:22.860
rain. Where do we go from here with your last

00:54:22.860 --> 00:54:25.429
pick of the night? Well, there's only two things

00:54:25.429 --> 00:54:30.829
in life, but I forget what they are. I'm going

00:54:30.829 --> 00:54:33.429
to, for my last pick, I'm picking Buffalo River

00:54:33.429 --> 00:54:37.710
Home. Yes. One, because I think it's an absolutely

00:54:37.710 --> 00:54:42.090
wonderful song. You know, sometimes there are

00:54:42.090 --> 00:54:44.969
songs that you don't even have to hear the lyrics

00:54:44.969 --> 00:54:48.769
and just get a feel of the song you enjoy. But

00:54:48.769 --> 00:54:52.530
Buffalo River Home. Musically is amazing. And

00:54:52.530 --> 00:54:56.250
there is some of the clearest and most clever

00:54:56.250 --> 00:54:59.769
lyrics. When you think that you've been gypped,

00:54:59.869 --> 00:55:02.949
the bearded lady comes and does a double back

00:55:02.949 --> 00:55:07.269
flip and you run off and join the circus. Yeah,

00:55:07.329 --> 00:55:11.190
you just let that pony ride. Buffalo River Home

00:55:11.190 --> 00:55:13.269
is, and I know I keep saying this, but it is

00:55:13.269 --> 00:55:16.590
one of my favorite songs. It is a song I never

00:55:16.590 --> 00:55:19.610
get tired of. It could be on rotation and it

00:55:19.610 --> 00:55:22.610
just would do that. I feel like once again, this

00:55:22.610 --> 00:55:26.730
is I could just keep quoting lyrics. So I'm like,

00:55:26.809 --> 00:55:29.210
OK, if I'm going to go out with one last song

00:55:29.210 --> 00:55:33.230
and there are the rest of the dream and a bunch

00:55:33.230 --> 00:55:36.789
of other songs that I adore. But I'm like, OK,

00:55:37.030 --> 00:55:40.070
I'm going to go with this one. True to your positivity,

00:55:40.570 --> 00:55:43.920
Jesse, that, you know, I think. Rest of the Dream

00:55:43.920 --> 00:55:46.059
would have been a lovely pick because it does

00:55:46.059 --> 00:55:50.440
have that hopeful, we have the future in front

00:55:50.440 --> 00:55:55.739
of us and just optimism in its very tone and

00:55:55.739 --> 00:55:59.579
every word. Buffalo River Home has that same

00:55:59.579 --> 00:56:04.219
feeling, but in a perfect John Hyatt way that

00:56:04.219 --> 00:56:07.920
it also acknowledges that life isn't perfect,

00:56:08.000 --> 00:56:10.659
that sometimes you feel like you've been gypped

00:56:10.659 --> 00:56:13.719
and then... The bearded lady comes. Yeah, life

00:56:13.719 --> 00:56:15.679
isn't perfect, but it's all going to work out

00:56:15.679 --> 00:56:19.960
somehow. And it's a great sing -along. I think

00:56:19.960 --> 00:56:22.579
well chosen. And, you know, I really love that

00:56:22.579 --> 00:56:26.519
the perfectly good guitar era and the guilty

00:56:26.519 --> 00:56:29.760
dogs get their due. The late, great Mike Ward

00:56:29.760 --> 00:56:33.760
doing an absolutely fantastic guitar on this.

00:56:34.340 --> 00:56:37.079
A mixtape wouldn't be complete without a little

00:56:37.079 --> 00:56:40.719
bit of taste of him. So well done. It seems we're

00:56:40.719 --> 00:56:43.559
either hanging on a moonbeams coattails or wishing

00:56:43.559 --> 00:56:46.500
on stars. Jesse, I feel like you and I have had

00:56:46.500 --> 00:56:48.420
some synergy with the lyrics we've been pulling

00:56:48.420 --> 00:56:53.239
from these songs. Maybe it's me. Okay. I'm just

00:56:53.239 --> 00:56:56.519
going to say it. I have to, for the last song

00:56:56.519 --> 00:56:59.920
of the tonight, double dip an album for the second

00:56:59.920 --> 00:57:04.719
time because slow turning got represented twice.

00:57:04.780 --> 00:57:06.820
And I know John Hyatt fans are either going to

00:57:06.820 --> 00:57:09.389
love or hate this decision, but. For my last

00:57:09.389 --> 00:57:11.289
song of the night, and I got to close this out,

00:57:11.449 --> 00:57:15.190
I really tried to think about what made me the

00:57:15.190 --> 00:57:18.010
John Hyatt fan that I am today. And I can tell

00:57:18.010 --> 00:57:21.630
you that that happened in 1995. And it happened

00:57:21.630 --> 00:57:26.429
the night before I drove down to college for

00:57:26.429 --> 00:57:29.429
the first time. I was in my room and I was packing

00:57:29.429 --> 00:57:33.469
up all of my things, getting ready to leave my

00:57:33.469 --> 00:57:35.610
parents for the first time and go live on my

00:57:35.610 --> 00:57:40.099
own at 17 years old. experience college. And

00:57:40.099 --> 00:57:41.639
I'm just flipping through the channels, looking

00:57:41.639 --> 00:57:43.280
for something to put on in the background while

00:57:43.280 --> 00:57:47.079
I pack. And I get to PBS and there's this guy

00:57:47.079 --> 00:57:49.340
in this band performing. And I'm like, Oh, what

00:57:49.340 --> 00:57:51.400
the hell? Just put this on. I turn up the volume

00:57:51.400 --> 00:57:54.360
and I turned up the volume during Tennessee plates.

00:57:54.940 --> 00:57:57.960
And this was John's live from Austin city limits

00:57:57.960 --> 00:58:01.760
special. And I stopped packing and I just sat

00:58:01.760 --> 00:58:03.820
at the edge of my bed and I watched him perform

00:58:03.820 --> 00:58:08.469
Tennessee plates, slow turning. And my last pick

00:58:08.469 --> 00:58:11.190
of the night, the title track, Perfectly Good

00:58:11.190 --> 00:58:13.170
Guitar, which I'm sure you guys will appreciate

00:58:13.170 --> 00:58:17.050
with the name of your podcast. But when he played

00:58:17.050 --> 00:58:19.809
Perfectly Good Guitar, I actually, when the song

00:58:19.809 --> 00:58:22.449
was over, walked out to my parents and said,

00:58:22.530 --> 00:58:24.730
is there any chance on the drive from New Jersey

00:58:24.730 --> 00:58:27.849
to North Carolina, at some point we could just

00:58:27.849 --> 00:58:30.690
stop at either a Walmart or a music store? I

00:58:30.690 --> 00:58:34.769
need to grab this CD. This song just blew my

00:58:34.769 --> 00:58:37.780
mind. He loved that guitar just like a girlfriend.

00:58:38.139 --> 00:58:41.440
But every good thing comes to an end. Now he

00:58:41.440 --> 00:58:44.739
just sits in his room all day whistling every

00:58:44.739 --> 00:58:47.460
note he used to play. A little bit of his...

00:58:47.769 --> 00:58:50.349
Humor coming into play here, a little bit of

00:58:50.349 --> 00:58:52.929
his takedown on something he doesn't like. I

00:58:52.929 --> 00:58:55.769
feel like this song was directly aimed at the

00:58:55.769 --> 00:58:58.429
Garth Brooks of the world at the time who was

00:58:58.429 --> 00:59:01.429
making it a thing on stage, smashing guitars.

00:59:01.710 --> 00:59:04.650
And this was kind of his takedown of it in true

00:59:04.650 --> 00:59:07.829
John fashion. So, yes, this might not be one

00:59:07.829 --> 00:59:10.760
of the massive hits, but. You guys named a podcast

00:59:10.760 --> 00:59:13.559
after it. So it has to mean something to both

00:59:13.559 --> 00:59:16.460
of you. I'm guessing it's some small shape or

00:59:16.460 --> 00:59:19.400
form. And for me, it's the song that solidified

00:59:19.400 --> 00:59:22.380
my love of his music. So I didn't have much to

00:59:22.380 --> 00:59:25.039
say about Buffalo River Home because that is

00:59:25.039 --> 00:59:27.860
my second favorite song on Perfectly Good Guitar.

00:59:28.420 --> 00:59:31.679
With the third being the opening track, Something

00:59:31.679 --> 00:59:36.960
Wild that Iggy Pop covered. So to close the first

00:59:36.960 --> 00:59:42.019
12 song. John Hyatt playlist, perfectly good

00:59:42.019 --> 00:59:46.199
guitar from perfectly good guitar. So I'm going

00:59:46.199 --> 00:59:49.440
to let Sylvan have last thoughts on this. So

00:59:49.440 --> 00:59:53.920
I love perfectly good guitar. It makes me smile.

00:59:54.500 --> 00:59:59.780
Chris was pretty young when this came out. And

00:59:59.780 --> 01:00:05.300
so he loved this song, just the idea that energy

01:00:05.300 --> 01:00:10.420
every time. I've seen John do it. He'll pretend

01:00:10.420 --> 01:00:13.820
to smash the guitar and then he hugs it instead.

01:00:14.260 --> 01:00:19.360
And it just is a perfect way to end the CD or

01:00:19.360 --> 01:00:22.920
our mixtape. You know, it just, it sends you

01:00:22.920 --> 01:00:28.280
off with a smile. And it says that this, once

01:00:28.280 --> 01:00:32.880
again, his sense of humor. He's a rocker, right?

01:00:32.960 --> 01:00:36.500
He is Americana, but he can do country. He can

01:00:36.500 --> 01:00:41.800
do hard rock and he's unique. And yeah, I just

01:00:41.800 --> 01:00:45.000
love it. Well, I have to embarrass myself once

01:00:45.000 --> 01:00:47.139
again, because I am that annoying person that

01:00:47.139 --> 01:00:49.840
you don't want to be sitting next to at a concert.

01:00:51.599 --> 01:00:54.559
John has said in many an interview that he has

01:00:54.559 --> 01:00:58.539
smashed a guitar once out of anger because he

01:00:58.539 --> 01:01:01.420
was having such a bad songwriting night or something

01:01:01.420 --> 01:01:05.030
like that. Well. I have on videotape and I put

01:01:05.030 --> 01:01:08.849
it up on YouTube the time that John was on The

01:01:08.849 --> 01:01:11.789
Tonight Show promoting Perfectly Good Guitar.

01:01:12.150 --> 01:01:16.489
And at the very end, he literally smashed a guitar

01:01:16.489 --> 01:01:19.409
and Jay Leno came over and said, yeah, it's the

01:01:19.409 --> 01:01:23.250
kick your ass special. And I was at home watching

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just like, how could he have done that? So years

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and years later, John said. Oh, I've only smashed

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a guitar once. And this is in a concert hall

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full of, you know, probably 300 people. And again,

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I'm annoying. I can't deny the fact that I'm

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a know -it -all. I find up to be on a podcast

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where we literally talk about every John Hyatt

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song. And I just kind of called out, and on Leno.

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And I kind of thought it would just like pass.

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And John said, what was that? actually say that

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and on Leno he's like did I break one on Leno

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and I you did we were just kind of going back

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and forth and the whole crowd kind of laughed

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and it's like wow I really am that person but

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I did not know this story I love the story I

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could just picture teacher teacher oh excuse

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me excuse me you got that wrong yes but at that

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point John did say it was a prop Which, one,

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I forgave him for forgetting, and two, I forgave

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him for smashing the guitar because it was a

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prop. I can totally live with that. It was a

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fake guitar, which actually makes sense when

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you look back at the tape. It was probably just

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balsa wood or something. It wasn't perfectly

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good, so it's okay to smash it. It wasn't perfectly

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good. And, you know, I do, getting back to the

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song, I think it's great. It represents John

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Rocker's side. It represents the... tenderness

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that he can talk about how music can change us.

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It shows him creating a character that you kind

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of think is probably John Hyatt, at least some

01:03:01.809 --> 01:03:03.909
version of him, but you could also imagine as

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completely a fictional character. And even gets

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a little dirty by saying they all got wet when

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he smashed that thing, which went pretty much

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over my head the first time I heard it when I

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was 14. And then I... Realize, huh, was that

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something that I should have been singing along

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to? And yeah, it's crunchy, it's gritty, it's

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soulful. And it's also perfectly ironic because

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it just fits that Midwestern modesty of, yeah,

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it's perfectly good as opposed to absolutely

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freaking fantastic, which. is John Hyatt in a

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nutshell. And hey, I think we kind of did it,

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guys. We got a great mix going. I couldn't agree

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more. And that, mixtapers, concludes volume one

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of the ultimate John Hyatt mixtape, which consists

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of Let It Ride from the Country Bears soundtrack,

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Drive South from Slow Turning, Riding with the

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King from the album of the same name, We're All

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Right Now from Mystic Pinball, Your Dad Did from

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Bring the Family, Cry Love from Walk On, Have

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a Little Faith in Me from the best of John Hyatt,

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Through Your Hands from Stolen Moments, The Tiki

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Bar is Open from the album of the same name,

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Feels Like Rain from Slow Turning, and then Buffalo

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River Home and Perfectly Good Guitar from Perfectly

01:04:29.869 --> 01:04:33.090
Good Guitar. Head over to myweeklymixtape .com

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to hear all the songs we've discussed in this

01:04:35.190 --> 01:04:38.610
mix through the playlist embedded on the episode

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page. Sylvan and Jesse, why don't you let people

01:04:41.519 --> 01:04:43.840
know more about where they can find Perfectly

01:04:43.840 --> 01:04:45.940
Good Podcast and connect with you both on social

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media? Absolutely. So Bees, wherever you listen

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to podcasts, search for Perfectly Good Podcast,

01:04:52.639 --> 01:04:55.920
John Hyatt A to Z. We have a Facebook page for

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the podcast and we make ourselves quite at home

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in the John Hyatt fan page. That's probably the

01:05:01.369 --> 01:05:03.909
easiest way to find our own website where we

01:05:03.909 --> 01:05:07.670
have the complete list of the songs and a target

01:05:07.670 --> 01:05:09.389
date of when we're going to be recording them.

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So we love having guests. Please go ahead and

01:05:13.349 --> 01:05:15.989
try to find us. And it doesn't have to be your

01:05:15.989 --> 01:05:18.190
favorite song, but look at what's coming up and

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send us a note. Perfectly good podcast at gmail

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.com. We'd love to hear from you. And, you know,

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you can be our guest just like we were. the guests

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for Brian on my weekly mixtape. Thank you so

01:05:30.510 --> 01:05:34.789
much. And I am at Jesse Jackson, DFW on X, AKA

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Twitter. I want to stress what Sylvan said. You

01:05:38.789 --> 01:05:40.650
know, a lot of people go, well, God, my favorite

01:05:40.650 --> 01:05:43.409
John song doesn't start till it, you know, starts

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with an S or a W. Pick just another song and

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just spend some time with it. And I think you'll

01:05:50.010 --> 01:05:53.469
have a lot of fun. I am doing a set listing.

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Bruce continue. part of the wonderful Pantheon

01:05:56.579 --> 01:05:59.960
Network, as is Perfectly Good Podcast. And my

01:05:59.960 --> 01:06:05.280
weekly mixtape. Yes, indeed. Where I talk to

01:06:05.280 --> 01:06:08.460
people about the power and the magic of music,

01:06:08.500 --> 01:06:11.880
and not just Bruce Springsteen fans, but it is

01:06:11.880 --> 01:06:15.480
always a lot of fun to have them there. And I'm

01:06:15.480 --> 01:06:18.340
always looking for guests. If you are passionate

01:06:18.340 --> 01:06:21.130
about music, if you have a favorite band. reach

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out to me at setlustingbruce at gmail .com and

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we'll make it happen. And you can talk about

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why your band has made a difference in your life.

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Well, Sylvan and Jesse, this has been an absolute

01:06:34.670 --> 01:06:36.929
blast. Thank you guys for keeping the episode

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under 12 hours long. And I'm already looking

01:06:39.769 --> 01:06:41.969
forward to seeing where volume two takes us.

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