This show is for you if you've done the work.
You've learned your triggers, read the books,
maybe even prayed through it, but your body still
reacts before you can stop it. I'm your host,
Edna White, and this is Keeping It Real On Purpose.
Today I'm joined by Mark Fox. Mark is a wellness
innovator and a thought leader at the intersection
of science, technology, and holistic health.
He develops non -invasive therapeutic approaches
designed to support pain relief, reduce anxiety,
and improve overall well -being. What I appreciate
about Mark's work is that he translates complex
science into something people can actually use
daily life. Welcome to the show, Mark. Thank
you so much for having me. You're welcome. So
let's get into, let's just let the audience know
who you are, what you do, and we can get into
the juicy parts. Okay, I've done a lot of different
things. I used to be a rocket scientist. I was
a chief engineer on the space shuttle program
for a number of years. And I've owned a women's
clothing company part of it. I've started about
10 or 12 different companies that didn't make
it for. usually marketing reasons because you
can't afford to make enough noise, but I Got
into energy therapy. I never planned to but my
dog about 28 years ago. She couldn't come up
the stairs We had her x -ray and she had severe
arthritis in her spine. And so a friend of mine
who was a veterinarian in Houston Said there's
this magic machine that can actually reverse
arthritis. I'm like, I don't really believe that
you know, I'm a skeptic and a rocket scientist
but it was my dog so I looked into it and sure
enough this technology exists and so that's how
I learned about it initially and then a number
of things just happened from there as I saw what
it could do for PTSD and it actually made me
very angry that it was super hard it was too
expensive and it was too scattered around the
country being held hostage in like a clinical
environment when We had the 44 suicides a day,
you know, with military veterans and first responders.
I'm like, this is awful. So I decided I'm going
to try and I'm a chemical engineer as my undergraduate
and I'm not an electrical engineer, but I'm just
going to go build a device that's affordable
and simple. And I thought it would be easy. It
wasn't that easy, but we have it now. So that's
kind of the path of how I got to it. Okay. Sounds
like you did a lot and You said something, you
know, why it was, you didn't understand why it
was being held hostage behind something. Can
you explain that? Yeah, there were very 15 ,000,
20 ,000 arm machines being held hostage in clinical
environments. So there's only a handful of practitioners
around the country that had this technology because
it was so expensive for the most part. Yeah,
that's like, ah, it's not that complicated or
it shouldn't be. There's got to be a way to build
a device that's easier. Gotcha. So a lot of people
are listening to understand themselves now. They
know why they react, but the reaction still happens.
Why does the body respond before the mind can
intervene? That's a very good question. But I
mean, a lot of it is fight or flight and tigers
coming after you in your cave, right? So you
don't have time to think through what next steps
are. You run, right? Your brain takes over the
fight or flight system, which is your vagus nerve,
right? That is, if it's imbalanced, you're not
in a constant fight or flight, right? You got
rest and digest and you have fight or flight,
but your vagus nerve, at least, especially now
in 2026 in the environment, our bodies weren't
designed for this. They were designed 10 ,000
years ago plus, right, for cavemen type things
that gather food and survive. They're not designed
for... 10 ,000 micro threats a day, right? Have
you had text and a phone and alarm call and this
thing, you know, I get shamed on Facebook, all
those things. And we're not designed for that.
So, but your body's reacting to it because it's
using an old primitive system is the right answer.
Well, that's good. Primitive system. Oh, that's
really good. Yeah. So how do you intervene in
that case? that you come up with energy therapy
technologies like this. I mean, obviously, so
energy therapy, so it's called PEMF, Pulse Electromagnetic
Fields, which sounds really fancy, but it's not,
it's the Earth's heartbeat. So you're surrounded
in it right now. If you turn on your phone with
the app, you would see it on your phone. So it
is the actual Earth's heartbeat at 7 .83 Hertz.
So that is, there's nothing surprising about
that, but. The way I like to explain it is nothing
in the world happens without an energy exchange.
So you don't breathe oxygen, you don't digest
food, you don't drive your car, you don't make
s'mores on a campfire, you don't cook food, right?
You don't fall down and hurt yourself without
an energy exchange. So what these devices are,
and a lot of people are used to like a 10 unit.
So, you know, you put pads on you and that's
an electrical way, electrical current transfer
energy. PMF is going to be a magnetic field.
It could be light, sound or vibration as well.
So there's five ways to transfer energy. PMF
is just what I chose as the most convenient because
you can put it in your pocket and forget it's
there. You're not tied to wires or laying on
a mat or anything like that. Now energy transfer,
everyone understands. Every single person's been
sunburned, right? That's an energy transfer of
light and energy. So that's what it is. It's
transferring energy to the body. What it actually
does is controversial except for a couple things.
So we do know that the cells in your body have
an electrical charge, just like a car battery.
And when that voltage gets low, you get sick.
So, and the cells don't operate effectively where
they got to get nutrients into the cell and then
get waste products out. So if the voltage is
too low, it doesn't work very well. This has
been shown to increase the voltage at the cell
level, and that's been proven multiple times.
So that's number one. Number two is ATP, which
is the main fuel that your cells use for food.
This has been shown to increase ATP up to 500%.
So that's been proven multiple times. So those
two primary things are increasing the voltage
on your cell's batteries, increasing the food
supply for your cells so your body can do what
it does best naturally is heal itself. So that's
the most basics on how it works. Now, when you
get into More and more details and speculation
you get into a lot of rabbit holes that are hard
to go prove So I try to stay away from something
Okay, all right, so someone can logically know
they're safe But physically feel danger with
all this going on It could be either way where
mentally or physically isn't matching up with
reality right and so I mean one of the most famous
one of my most famous quotes because I have to
try to slap myself once in a while too, as Mark
Twain said, right? Mark Twain said, I've been
through some horrible experiences in my life,
some of which actually happened, right? So if
you think about that concept, as we all stress
about everything in the future and this, and
the six o 'clock news is designed to scare us
to death, right? To keep us from drugs and all
that stuff. So yeah, your mind doesn't know the
difference between a real threat and a fake one
at times. It's an interesting concept too, is
we use this a lot in marketing, is in the way
we write copy and stuff, is your brain is actually
designed by the similar to road rods and cones
like in your eye, but the synapses and stuff.
You're actually designed, human brain is actually
designed to imagine. a hundred thousand times
more to imagine a world that doesn't exist than
the one that does. So the actual sensors that
you have in your brain to look at light, sound,
vibration and things around you is a hundred
thousand times less than the ones you have to
dream of Harry Potter or make up a book or come
up with something completely new or imagination.
So we're designed to be imaginative creatures.
Yes, we are definitely. That imagination will
get us in trouble. because you're imagining things
that haven't happened yet and get all the anxiety
about it. Everyone knows this, right? Every single
person in the world that's ever done a public
speaking, that whole survey is, would you rather
die or be on a stage? Would you rather die? And
it's like, what's going to happen? I mean, what's
going to happen to you? Nothing. You know, logically,
nothing's going to happen on that stage. It might
boo you. So what? It's like. But people are so
nervous when they speak, unless you do it a lot.
So yeah, that's just another imaginary thing
that there is no real threat, but your brain
thinks there is. Okay, okay. So that explains
why people get exhausted trying to manage themselves
all day. They think they're failing or... at
healing or failing at something when really something
deeper is happening to the nervous system. The
analogy that I use is your vagus nerve is supposed
to be in balance, but again, the environment
we live on is like driving a car. It's basically
your foot's on the accelerator and the brake
at the same time. That's not how it's supposed
to work. You should be on cruise control and
tap the brake when you need to and accelerate
a little bit when you need to, but we're overwhelmed
with stimulus. as we just talked about, can appear
to be a threat when it's really not. I mean,
we've all caught ourselves doing that. It's like,
why am I worried about this? Because I know the
worst outcome. I have a friend of mine who's
one of the top public speakers in the country,
right? He has always, for 40 years or 35 years,
kept his car keys in his pocket while he's on
stage in case he has to run to his car and just
leave. In case he gets so scared, at least I
have an out, because I already have my keys in
my hand, which is totally irrational, but it's
what he does. It makes him feel more comfortable
about getting on stage. Yes. Well, yeah, that's
a good one. That's a real good one. Yeah, I like
that. So are you saying that awareness lives
in the mind, but survival lives in the body?
Say that again. I'm sorry miss first part does
so awareness lives in the mind and survival lives
in the body I think it's he it's out of my expertise
that league is like I think it's just a mix right
and sometimes like we just said sometimes one's
rational and the other one's not rational and
they can each other right is What is the real
threat here? Why am I what? Yeah, you know you're
walking down the road and also You see a snake,
and you jump back and freak out, and then you
find out it's a palm tree branch, right? It wasn't
a snake. My brain just went, I thought I saw
a snake. So what you said earlier, right, is
our brains are wired to react faster than common
sense, right? And nobody knows, you know, it's
like anything else in the scientific world is...
you discover something new and like 10 years
later what you discovered isn't true and then
there's something new that comes along. Life's
almost like a video game at multiple levels.
I'll give you an example. So I used to teach,
I'm just a dumb chemical engineer and I used
to teach the top nuclear physicists in the world
at Los Alamos National Labs four times a year.
They're the smartest guys on the planet. So when
I walk in there, I know they're gonna slaughter
me because I'm just a. I don't have a PhD. So
I just walk in. I don't make eye contact with
them. I just have a chart behind me that says
the history of physics. And I go through the
history of physics in about 12 minutes that just
shows how completely wrong, how completely wrong
every 10 to 20 years they are. So I turn around
and I go, so based on this history, there's a
98 % probability whatever you did your doctoral
thesis on is wrong. And it's a waste of time.
And they're all like slouched in their chairs.
Purpose because I have to tenderize their brains
to get them to think openly because they're yeah
I'm a PhD and fit in nuclear physics. I'm one
of the smartest guys. Well, you don't know everything
even though you think you do right is like It's
like I tell everyone I'm smart enough to know
how dumb I am right It's like every time I learned
something they were like really you can go do
that Wow, okay You know, you just learned something
new all the time. Yes. Yes, that's good Oh, that
was a great, I was gonna ask you for an example.
You gave such a great example. Love that. I love
the fact that you got them all like ready and
they didn't even know it. That was really, really
good. That was excellent. So many people feel
frustrated because coping tools stopped working
after a while. I know for me it did. Why does
willpower sometimes make symptoms worse? I think
it's what we just discussed. You're imagining
stuff that's not real. Imagining, okay, okay.
Imagining something that's not real. I mean,
me personally, and I have some, I have to try
to explain. So me with my blood pressure, I don't
even have high blood pressure, but I'm on medication
anyway, but it's always high in a doctor's office.
And yes, it's white cone syndrome times 50, but
I have some logic to it is like the, when I was,
In college, as soon as I graduated college, I
was going into the army and I had my blood pressure
taken and the last day it was taken is a very
attractive nurse took my hand and put it under
her armpit when she took my blood pressure. So
it went like 200 over 100, right? And it's like,
and I go, she goes, I said, well, maybe it has
something to do with the person taking it. I
wasn't offending her. And she thought I was and
threw the clipboard down and like, and they sent
in the old grumpy nurse. Then my blood pressure
was fine. but I'd already violated the Army's
rule, so I had to go in this thing that I can't
go in the Army, I have nowhere to live, and blah,
blah, blah. So that was a real thing. I'm a pilot,
I fly hot air balloons and airplanes, and if
you fail one of those numbers, it's like you
lose your license. It's actually a whole racket,
because all the commercial, imagine being a Delta
or American Airlines pilot. If they fail 145
over 95, either one of those numbers, they lose
their license and they just lost their career,
right? So literally, nobody will believe this
unless they're a pilot. The doctors will actually
just sit there and keep taking it until they
get the number they want, right? And they'll
just keep talking to them because they know they
don't want to fail them because it's not a risk
to them flying the airplane. It's a risk to being
in the doctor's office where you can actually
measure it. Here's one thing I've learned, Edna.
I may move to Europe just for this reason, besides
Trump. A lot of practitioners in Europe quit
taking blood pressure. all together. Wow. Because
they're over -medicating everyone when they shouldn't
be. Yes, I truly believe that. Yes, I truly believe
that. You don't really need it. So yeah, I may
have to move to Spain or something. Yeah, I know
that. I know they change. I have bouts of cholesterol
and I know since I've been, they've noticed that
it was two numbers below the number that they
want. They want to put me on... I forgot the
name of it, statins. And I was like, no, I don't
want that. I don't want that. And what could
I do, you know, pre this? So change your diet,
your nutrition, all of that, and still it's high.
But then like the next time or the next year
I went in, they lower the numbers. So I was like,
I'm in the losing end every time when you're
just playing with the numbers and... If I get
it lower, it's still going to be two points below
the number that you just changed it to. So what
am I going to do? So I didn't know we're going
to go around down this rabbit hole. We're for
a minute. I know more about blood pressure and
cholesterol and probably when anyone you'll meet
in your life. Oh, OK. OK. So trick question.
So cholesterol statins and anyone can go Google
statin wars on YouTube. Go look at Dr. Ken Barry's
presentations on it is The most criminal thing,
this is Mark speaking now, not medical advice.
The most criminal thing ever is the statin companies
and what they have done and continue to do. They
have what's called a run -in period. So when
they did the run -in period, what they created,
a term, is 35 % of the people had muscle pain
in the trial with statins. And then they threw
them out of the study before they started the
study. That's totally, totally criminal. You
just said they moved the number. It used to be
your LDL was 129, then they moved it to, it was
like 149, then 129, they moved it to 99. I've
done all the research, it's like, where's the
data and who says why it should go to 99? And
there is no data. There's none except the drug
companies, like we sell more drugs. And I asked
that question. I asked them that, who told, where
did you get this information? And they looked
at me, well, this is what we studied in school.
I said, but I don't like it. It's not bad, you
know. Can't give you an answer. Yeah. Go to,
anyone else that's listening to me, don't believe
me, go to NIH on the website and you type in
LDL, blah, blah, blah. And there's a meta study
that this guy did that looked at all of the studies.
And the conclusion is LDL is not harmful for
the vast majority of people. Do not get on statins.
Right. There's a doctor on YouTube. If you just
put in statin wars, it's a female doctor. She
has a very, very, I forget her name because it's
long, but it's a very, very, very good presentation.
Yeah. They keep moving the goalposts on you to
have more people. And then when you look at the
stats to go, Oh, what do you see in the news?
Oh, there's 50 % more people have high cholesterol
than they did 20 years ago. No, they don't. They
moved the goalpost, right? That's right. They
moved the goalpost. I couldn't believe that they
kept moving. I said, Because I'm very, I advocate
for myself a lot. I said, that number wasn't
the same last year. And they were like shocked
that I knew it. And they were really thrown off
by it. They were thrown off. I said, no, I'm
not taking them. The first time I took them,
every muscle in my body was twitching. I mean,
my fingers. It was bad. And I was like, what
is going on with me? And I forgot how I'd taken
it. And I was like, oh no, I'm not taking this
medicine anymore. So I was like, call the media,
I'm not taking it. And he said, well, we'll lower
the dose. And I said, oh, that sounds kind of
crazy. You're going to lower the dose of the
poison and then give me muscle relaxants. No.
No. Clearly, I'm a rocket scientist, not at me
to make this clear. I'm not a doctor giving medical
advice, but if anyone wants to see my summary
of it, here's how sad it is. The exact same thing
happened to me. My LDL was 130. My doctor said
you need to go on statins. I walked in and I
said, here's a piece of paper. I've done hundreds
and hundreds of hours of research on this. Please
read this summary. And she did exactly, she turned
her head and said, I'm not gonna look at it.
Why? She goes, I'm gonna do what the American
Medical Association recommends and nothing else.
And I go, that is awful to hear that from a doctor
in 2025, 2024 when this happened, right? So.
We'll get off this another one, but my other
one was blood pressure. Here's the trick question
I asked you when I'm blood pressure. If you're
any clinician. That was a good tangent, a really
good tangent. I love that. Love it. I'll say
I'm 64. What should my blood pressure be? And
I know they don't know the answer because I know
it's a trick question. If you're over 60, it
should not be 120 over 80. It certainly should
be 115 over 75. It should be 140 over 90. Now
there's a gigantic study that looks at the meta
-analysis. If you want to live the longest over
60, 140 over 90 is where you should be, not 115
over 75. Right. And anyone else can go Google
that and find those studies as well. Yes. And
then when I tell doctors that, they go, where
are you getting this from? The internet's kooky.
I'm like, no, this is like published stuff that's
from bloggers and meta -analysis. That's what
I tell them. I said, it's published things. I
don't just go Googling something about my health.
I look for studies. I said, yeah. No. And they
even sent, I'm getting off again, but they even
sent like three other doctors in to talk to me,
like, convince me, like, come on in, one after
the other. And I'm like, what is this? And they
were all standing around me. Like, I was a test
subject. I said, no, I'm not taking them. Now
I know I'm not taking them. Because if you have
to call in the army to make me do something,
now I know that I'm not taking them. Absolutely
not. All right, we'll change subjects before
the SUV show up the front door and haul us away.
Yeah, exactly. Well, that was a good tangent.
I want to tell you, Mark, that was a great tangent.
So let's get back on here. So let's get back
to where people often try to control reactions,
breathing harder, thinking harder, praying harder,
whatever. And the reaction intensifies. What
happens there? What is happening? Breathing techniques
and all those things, they work very well. There's
tapping exercises, breathing techniques, of course
meditation. Just calm down from it, right? Just
try to breathe. So deep breathing, all that stuff
works. What I like about this technology is you
don't have to be participating. You just stick
it in your pocket, right? So it's naturally doing
that. You don't have to know it's there. It's
kind of like the large PMF mats that are in chiropractors
and stuff, you got to lay on the mat the whole
time, right? So you're conscious of it. I forget
that this is in my pocket half the time. I think
it's my own. I go to grab it and oh yeah, I forgot
I was even running that protocol. So the fact
that I can take this on an airplane, drive a
car anywhere, watch TV, that it's non -invasive,
just fits in your pocket, I think it's one of
the huge benefits. It's affordable and it's accessible
and it's therapy on the go is what it is. So
tell us, share a little bit about, if you don't
mind, that device that you have. Yeah, it's called
Vibe, V -I -B -E. It's the first device we came
up with. It actually is a music player, OK? It's
an MP3 player. It just doesn't have a speaker.
So the protocols are actually MP3 files. So I
wrote the protocols on a music synthesizer. I'm
not a musician. but I use a music synthesizer
to create them. So it's music your body can hear,
but your ears can't because there's no speaker.
So yeah, that's what this device is. There's
60 protocols on it. You scroll to the one you
want and you hit play and then you just put in
your pocket or wear it with a lanyard around
your neck. Or I quit telling women three years
ago to quit putting in their bra because they
do it anyway. So, or if you're a woman, you can
put it in your bra. It's easy. Listen, it's easy.
It's easy. I don't know what you guys do in the
bathroom, but we have more women drop them in
the toilets. Maybe men drop them in the toilet,
and they just don't tell us that it happens,
but women do all the work. They'll always go
like, what happens if I get it wet? I go, quit
dropping it in the toilet. Right. Rice will not.
They go, what are you, a psychic? I go, that's
the only way it can get wet. Right? Yes, in the
toilet. Yes, that's good. Well, you've done it
enough. No, that's what happens. That's funny.
I just started messing with people because they
go, what are you a psychic? I'm like, no, I just
that's how else are you going to get it wet?
And then we did have somebody last year as a
lifeguard dive off the platform into the pool
to rescue a kid and had it in their pocket. OK,
that's the first one in a toilet. But that was
that was natural water. So this is a pendant
that's a vagus nerve stimulator. You just wear
it like a piece of jewelry over your heart because
the vagus nerve comes down both sides of your
neck and it clusters around the heart. And most
vagus nerve stimulators, you have to put 15 volts
to your neck. You don't need to do that because
the vagus nerve is closest to neck is why people
do that. But you can just wear it over your heart.
And we have a Blue Vibe thing that's brand new
that's for cognitive impairment that puts out
both PEMF and light. So this is super exciting
we have a hundred percent success rate and As
of this morning the chances of it being due to
chance or less than one in a million now Literally
one in one million. That's not like exaggerating.
It's that number zero seven zeros So that's super
exciting hundred percent success rate we just
started selling that product and We have other
stuff, but I, you know, I got a product pitch
things, but yeah, it's super exciting. The cognitive
impairment one MIT has been studying it for 12,
13 years now. And they found it by accident of
how 40 Hertz can reverse amyloid plaque in the
brain and cognitive function. So yeah, it's a
super exciting, fun stories. Yeah, that's really
good. So you tell me anxiety isn't just emotions,
physiological, physical, physical. Yes, it is.
Wow. Well, anxiety. Yeah. Yeah. So anxiety, we
actually have four protocols in it. So there's
anxiety, there's relax and balance, there's vagus
nerve stimulation, and then there's PTSD. If
your anxiety or anxiousness is coming from PTSD,
that's probably the best one to run. But you
try it. We tell people to try all four of them,
which one works best for you. Stick with that
one. And I wish it was 100 % success rate. It's
not nothing in the world is but we're north of
90 % for most protocols Right. I'll just warn
everyone the lowest protocol on there is prostate.
It's at about 65 % I wish it was a lot higher
because I get 75 year old guys calling me all
the time screaming at me that it didn't work
like well I'm being honest with you. I told you
there's a 35 % chance. It's not going to right
so on average, but Most people do, the number
one reason it won't work is you don't use it.
And there's a whole psychology thing here is
like, it's 10 to one men that won't use it versus
women. You guys are way more open to trying something
new. So many wives have bought it for their husbands
and the husband says, I'm not taking any of them
out of the box. I just don't mind touching that,
right? Cause they just, they have their mind
made up that it can't actually work. So. And
that matters when you're delving into something
that's new. That matters that your mind is open
to receive something like that, right? In the
1970s, there was a comedian named Rich Hall,
and he had a thing called Sniglets. They're words
that aren't in the dictionary, but they should
be. And one of them was bozone. Bozone is bozo
and ozone. So it's an invisible gas. that surrounds
people, that stops new ideas from getting in.
So get rid of your Bozone. I have more Facebook
haters than you could possibly imagine. I wrote
an article three years ago called Liar, Liar,
Pants on Fire. I just said, here's what we know,
don't know. And the whole logic is here's the
largest scams in the world. OK, ready? DNA sequencing,
CRISPR, antibiotics, MRIs, x -rays, right? So
I named 300 technologies that were 100 % impossible
until they weren't. If you were on the Mayflower
and somebody showed you that, what would you
say it was? Right? Right. You don't know? Technology,
I don't know what that is. You wouldn't know,
right? Now, an MRI, for time I won't explain
how an MRI works, but it is, in Mark's opinion,
it's the most magical invention ever invented
by human beings. There is so much magic involved
in an MRI. that shouldn't it can't work but we
do a million of them a year in the United States
and nobody questions the picture when you go
yep that's my lung right it's like well how did
it get how did you make that picture because
you have to have so many levels of magic that
okay you want me to give you the 45 second version
of the magic go ahead okay so the protons in
your body you have north and south pole and they're
all random okay trillions and trillions of them
like the earth If you put somebody at MRI, you
hit them with 50 ,000 goss. This is nine, to
put it in perspective. 50 ,000 goss is a huge
magnetic field. It makes all those protons line
up like a laser. Then you literally take AM and
FM radio, 103 .5 FM, and you hit them with FM,
and it's a different frequency for each thing
you wanna look at. The heart's different than
the lungs. Then you turn the magnetic field off,
and you turn off. the radio frequency and when
your proton snap back to randomness, your body
spits out energy and it's captured on a thing
called a Fourier transform. That's how you make
an MRI photograph. Are you still there? Looks
like we may cut us off at 30 minutes. I'm still
here. Don't worry, go. Keep going. Keep going.
I got you. Got cut off there or something. Did
I go through it all? No, no, no. Go. Keep going.
I got you. OK. Well, I'm done. That's how it
works. But there's so many levels of magic there,
like I said, is if that's actually true, and
it happens, and we use it every day, how can
you not be open -minded to some of this other
technology? Right. Okay. Good example. I didn't
know what chat GBT was eight months ago, and
I use it 30 times a day now. In my business.
I use it so much to go do stuff and analysis.
And that is magical. That would have cost $100
,000 a month five years ago, right? And now we're
getting it. You're right about that. You are
so right. And nobody could imagine what that's
going to look like in 10 years. I can't. You
know, I keep thinking the same thing, Mark. I
keep thinking. How is this going to look in 30
years? It's going to be crazy. It's going to
be like, a lot of things I used to do, I know
you might, we're going on another tangent, Mark.
A lot of things I used to do, it's not even emails.
I'm thinking like, culminating things together,
like sheets, putting them together and all that,
done. I mean, I can't even believe it. It's like
done in like a split second. It's crazy. It is
crazy. Just like this clinical child that we're
doing to do all the statistical analysis I used
to do on my calculator, on my Hewlett Packard
calculator, I now just drag the Google Sheets
in the chat GBT and go, what's the answer? Right,
that's what I do too with the answer. It's all
I care about was the answer. And just correlating
things together, just, I mean, it's just such
a time. It doesn't waste any time. Usually I'm
pondering over things and trying to figure things
out, putting nothing. It's just, what's the answer
to this? And put it together. That's it. So good.
So good. But it doesn't take away from our creativity
and your ingenuity. So that's really great. That's
good too. I like that. I think it amplifies.
I mean, people are so worried about it. And everyone
goes, is the technology going to take away Java?
That's been the argument for 1 ,000 years. Is
this new technology going to take away my job?
No, it creates other ones, right? And it does.
There's this one that's similar to it. This is
a hilarious chart that I have. It's a PowerPoint
slide that shows it's talking about kids. And
it says, the kids' day are so worthless, blah,
blah, blah. And there's just 100 versions of
that. And then it shows the date next to it.
It goes back to like 900 BC. Like 900 BC. Everyone's
got the same thing. Because the kids are like,
oh, they're worth it. But no, it's just the time
has changed and it's a different shape and format
of it, but it's the same. It's always been like
that. That's exactly. That's really cool. So
let's jump back on, audience. I know we got up
in tangents, but it's so relevant. It's so relevant,
believe me. So we want to talk about what actually
helps. So if someone realizes their body is reacting
automatically, what's the first real sign it's
beginning to calm down? I'm going to answer this
a little straight answer. Not going to expect
the cheapest, simplest litmus test to see if
it's making a difference is what is your family
and friends say about you? Right, are you? Do
you not? Is your wife not want to divorce anymore?
Do you kids want to hang out with you now? Are
you getting invited to the barbecue which you
haven't been to for years? So that's going to
be the best one. You got your own, of course,
objective. I mean, the gold standard and pain
is still the walk in the office. You get a zero
to 10, right? Zero is happy, 10 is crying. You
came in with eight and you self -reported as
a three. Other things like this Cario watch,
our new watch, heart rate variability. If I had
to measure any biomarkers, the simplest ones
are going to be sleep because I don't care what
ailment you have. You're getting more sleep,
more REM, more restful sleep. That means your
body is reacting in a positive way. Secondly
is heart rate variability. And now like this
watch is you have an easy way to measure it.
And most people aren't familiar with it. Your
heart rate, you want to come down, but your heart
rate variability, you want to go up. The more
heart rate variability, the higher it is, the
more responsive your system is to fight or flight
and staying balanced. So sleep, heart rate variability,
and then your family and friends. We've had multiple
times where the teacher will call the parents
and go, hey, Johnny has ADHD as you know, obviously
he's your kid What meds did you change on him
because he's acting way better and the answer
is we didn't change his meds We started using
this thingy, right? So Those those type of things
insulin resistance, you can see the blood sugar
come down I was just talking to a guy five minutes
for this call across the street neighbor mine
for 50 years His friend he gave it to for a guy
that has asthma and he goes it's like disappeared
and it will do that with a lot of people for
asthma In fact, here's a good example. My friend
called me up and he goes, oh my God, I have not
breathed this well since I was 17. This thing
really works. I go, are you just now using it,
you idiot? He goes, yeah, why? I gave it to you
three months ago, right? So that's pretty typical.
It was a guy who had it for three months. A friend
of mine had gave him one and he just didn't use
it until the night before he called me at the
airport. So it won't work if you don't use them.
That's the number one reason they don't. Wow,
that's funny. Why is trying to heal completely
alone so difficult for the body? I don't think
it is. Do tell. If you're reasonably healthy,
I think the body does. I mean, I think it's the
opposite. It's amazing what it can do, right?
I'm surprised you're trying to cut yourself if
you don't bleed out and die. The biology of things
and go coagulate and do all the magical things
and everything does. I mean, the body is pretty
unbelievably resilient to want to stay alive
and want to fix itself. Right, right. I was never
going to ask that question, but I mean, I'm not
a doctor either, but no, I think it's amazing
what it can do, right? I mean, we were - Right.
That's a great answer. Great answer. I like that.
So most people think healing means their reactions
stop immediately, you know, they want to complete
healing next day, maybe. But what I'm hearing
is healing means your body learns it doesn't
have to protect you the same way anymore. Thus,
what you created makes it feel safe, right? Not
that the technology doesn't work that way it
is because it's very it's very specific Let me
be back up the frequencies are frequency pairs
Okay So picture like a chord on a guitar. Uh
-huh Protocols or songs so the chords are gonna
change every one to four minutes. So every single
protocol is different Okay, roughly speaking.
This is oversimplifying Frequency A is where
is it? And B is what's wrong with it? So it could
be inflammation in the medulla. Now, where this
technology came from, Carnegie and Rockefeller
screwed it up in 1934 because they figured out
that I can make drugs out of oil. And they own
the medical landscapes. They said if you're doing
any kind of electrical stimulation, you're going
to lose your funding and your licenses. And so
America stopped doing all this for decades. The
rest of the world did not. And from a common
sense point of view, your body is chemical, structural,
bones, and electrical. And to ignore the electrical
piece of it is impossible to treat a body correctly,
because you're not looking at all three aspects,
right? So there's that, and then a lot of trial
and error. And if you just picture a pickup van
in a garage, right? And the analogy I use is
the Bee Gees, there's a great YouTube clip, the
Bee Gees. created 150 songs or something before
they had a hit, right? So they trial and error,
trial and error, trial and error. Why does 40
Hertz and 116 Hertz do this exact thing? Nobody
really knows. Yeah. And I stay away from that
because I just want to stay at the higher level
of ATP and voltage at the cellular level, because
you'll never be able to prove that. Here's what
happens, Edna, with doctors. They get so angry
and they're like, what's the mechanism action?
I need to know exactly how it's working. I go
timeout. You do not know how aspirin works. Aspirin's
been around for 3 ,000 years. You still don't
know how it works. You have a theory, but you
can't prove it. And you can't prove how any drug
in the world works. None. All theories. So my
logic is relief before reason. You don't need
to understand those details. Then you'll get
this, but doctors do not. I trick them, I go,
so, do you have a microwave oven in your house?
And of course the answer is yes. It's like, have
you ever heated a slice of pizza in there? Yes.
How does it heat the food? And they go, now they
know it's a trick question from a rocket scientist.
It kind of bounces around, does some energy thing,
and they're like, okay. The theory is the rotational
energy of a water molecule. You're hitting it
with exact frequency to make a water molecule
spin on its own axis. like a wheel. And that
friction is what's causing heat. Nobody in the
world has ever photographed or videotaped a spinning
water molecule. Never. There's no technology
to see that. And so it's still a theory because
nobody has ever proven a water molecule spins
on its own axis. But we all eat pizza and we
live with it. So forget the exact mechanism because
it's pointless to go beat. And this has come
from a rocket scientist. I actually don't. care
about the technology of how it actually works.
When I get in arguments about placebo, when somebody's
suicidal and now they're not because of this
technology, I don't care if it's 100 % placebo.
I know it's not, but even if it is, that person's
still with us instead of committing suicide.
That's right. That's right. Awesome. So Mark,
how can the audience find you and tell us what
you have new coming up on the horizon? I think
Rezona, R -E -S -O -N -A dot health. It's not
a dot com, so it's short for residence. It's
easier to say Rezona, R -E -S -O -N -A dot health.
The Blue Vibe that we just came out with is super
exciting. The one we're doing the clinical trials
now for cognitive impairment. I mean, I have
it for sale. Honestly, I got 50 of them sitting
over here. They're gonna be gone in a couple
days. And we have another shipment coming in
April. I dream about, putting myself out of business
multiple ways. One is I'd love to be able to
say, hey, Alexa, run dementia in the living room
and have it come through the lights. Now, the
smart bulbs, the billions of small smart bulbs
out there, I already have this technology, if
somebody at Phillips would call me back, because
I have to just run the MP3 through Alexa, through
the lights, so the light flickers at the right
thing, but I have to be able to turn the light
off a thousand times in a second or up to a thousand
times. And there's a bridge that's in the light.
When you turn your light bulb on and click the
switch on the wall, the light doesn't just come
on. It ramps up slowly so it's easier on the
human eye. It takes a couple seconds, right?
The other dream I have is almost all phones now
have a cheek oil in them that you charge it,
right? So I put out a... It's a contest for $25
,000 to the winners. Figure out how to hack the
phone OS system so I can run the MP3 out the
coil. And now I just put myself out of business
and I just have an app that turns every phone
into a vibe. And nobody's, everyone tells me
it can't be done. And I'm like, ah, I just haven't
found the right person yet. Yep, exactly. That
is great. That is great news. So audience knew
where to find. but him and his products, which
is going to be amazing. Mark, thank you for being
here and helping us to make sense of something
people live with every day, but rarely understand.
And to everyone listening, healing isn't about
becoming someone new. It's about helping your
body realize you survived. And I'm Edna White,
and my esteemed guest, Mark, we are saying goodbye
for now. Thank you so much for having me.