Welcome back to Keeping It Real On Purpose. I'm
your host, Edna White. Have you ever felt like
you're hitting a hidden ceiling in your business?
Like you're doing all the right things, but the
biggest breakthrough just won't come or just
won't land down there where you are? That ceiling
is an external. It's programmed deep within your
subconscious mind. Today, we are joined by the
expert who helps us shatter those ceilings. Marlee
Rose Harris, founder of the Higher Self app and
the creator of the powerful clear, the powerful
clear, the fear method. That's a tongue twister
right there. Marlee is a neuroscience, science,
universal laws and energetics to help entrepreneurs
reprogram the minds and manifest massive success
with ease. Marlee, welcome to the show. Thank
you so much for having me. It feels like such
a luxury and blessing to be here. Thanks so much.
I am so glad you're here. You are my first person
to have created an app besides me. So that's
really great. I'm so excited to interview you
today. So Marlee, before we dive into the hard
questions, give us what the real purpose is behind
your work. How do you show up in the world? My
real purpose behind my work is to inspire beautiful
souls and beautiful individuals that they truly
can have anything that they desire. That little
inkling that we almost shove so far down it's
like in our toes of that feeling. and that desire
that feels too big or too impossible and too
scary to even admit that we want it. My purpose
is to inspire you to pick up that dream, put
it in front of you and to commit to it and to
know that you are capable of attracting and becoming
and achieving anything that you set your mind
to. I like to share that I like to make the impossible
possible. And the tool in which that I help my
clients do that is through subconscious reprogramming.
what I see in my work is that when you change
your beliefs, it is the exact tool to create
the reality that you so deeply desire. And I'm
really here to inspire those to have, do and
be whatever they desire and to never settle in
any area of life. Okay, all right. So what does
it mean to help entrepreneurs break free from
limiting beliefs? So we're a race in a society
of fear. From the minute that we're born, going
through school, we're taught to not be enough.
We're taught to believe in lack. We are taught
to believe in scarcity. It gets passed down generationally
and it gets passed down and taught through schooling,
through society, through the news, through media.
Everywhere you look, it's fear and scarcity.
So we tend to absorb that. It's natural. the
natural human behavior to absorb your environment.
Think about it, we learn English from our parents.
So we start speaking in the same tone and the
same as our parents, we take their accent, right?
We take everything else. We take their money
beliefs, we learn how to deal with money, how
to manage money. So I grew up in a family household
that Believed in scarcity and that was the rule
that was just the world that I grew up in but
as a very small child I saw that and I saw that
you know There was so much chaos and there was
so much neglect and lack of love and from a really
young age I just decided okay. It's because we
don't have money why we don't have love and I
want love so So I decided from a very young age
that if I just have money that I will have love
and I will have everything that I could ever
want From a very young age I was like I just
need to figure out how to be rich I promise you
even up to this day like even up to this day,
right? You kind of checking yourself all the
time about that. Yeah, and So, you know I started
on this journey, you know it Personal development
was very new to me. I I just found it, you know
actually through podcasts and I felt like I never
really was good at anything. I felt like you
know soccer I sucked at singing I'm horrible
everything that my parents are like or like not
even parents but like my school would provide
for me I just sucked right and I was like, wow,
I have no skills. I have no abilities But what
I was doing is I wasn't playing to my natural
gifts. I was playing to my weaknesses instead
of playing for my strengths. And I created this
limiting belief that I'm not good at anything
that I do because I felt like I failed at everything.
how I graduated from university that I started
finding podcasts and I started getting into this
world of personal development. And for the very
first time, I was like, wow, I get this. Like
it was, it was just like this immediate remembering
and knowing and just like comfort zone. Like
I felt like it just, I was just felt like I was
coming home to something and I started dabbling
in meditation. I started dabbling in journaling
and I feel like like this is the best thing I've
ever done like I feel good at this and I and
I loved it and and you know I when I graduated
from university it was either like get this corporate
job that I thought that I always wanted because
I grew up with no consistency with money there
was no benefits no paycheck it was like free
willy and so I was like I want a corporate job
because then I'm gonna get a consistent paycheck
every month that was like my biggest dream was
just to have a consistent paycheck And then I
finally got the corporate job offer and I was
like, no, I cannot work for anyone else. I don't
want to work for anyone else. And I want to work
for my laptop and travel the world. That was
like my biggest dream. I'm like, if I could do
that, I'd be a millionaire. And I read the four
hour work week by Tim Ferriss and I just use
that as like my rival. my bible i am going to
become this and this is at 2021 so like no one
really knew about digital no no no sorry this
was 2018 so no one knew about digital nomad like
they're like digital nomad what do you mean and
i'm like we're gonna work with deloitte i'm like
i'm going to australia like i'm like i can't
and this is me too i said the same exact thing
same exact thing yeah So also I just hated winter.
I'm from Canada. So I grew up, it was like negative
30. I was like, I can't live like this. So I
started my business and the first year in business
was also the year that I lost my father. He committed
suicide. And so I was at this very... Interesting
point of my life. We're like for the first time
in my life I felt like I was actually feeling
these feelings of fulfillment and joy because
I spent so much of my life struggling with mental
health anxiety depression just a lot of unresolved
trauma, I didn't even know what was going on
though and First time I had this like purpose
and I felt like I was I don't know I just felt
so good in alignment. I think I felt alignment
for the first time in my life at the same on
the same duality of that is is also the when
I lost my father so In that moment, I was like,
okay I've I know I'm from a town with literally
300 people like I didn't know that this happened
You know, I was best and still am like best friends
with my dad He was my number one supporter and
so for him to do this it was like the impossible
had occurred like there's just no reality if
you told me that that was gonna happen that that
was gonna happen and In hindsight and learning
what I know now, it's like my dad just didn't
have the self love. And so when something happened
on the external, like separating from my mom,
he just couldn't handle that. He didn't have
the self love to sustain his own journey. And
so when I spoke at a celebration of life, I said,
from this moment moving forward, I am going to
find a way. That no one that I know will ever
do that again and think that's the only option
And I want to help the world know that you don't
have to struggle. You don't have to settle you
don't have to suffer like There has to be another
way because my dad did try going to therapy that
didn't it didn't work Um, he he tried all of
it didn't work. So I was like there has to be
another way this I don't believe that this is
the only option this can't be And so that brought
me on this journey to where I am today Which
is I just started reading all the podcasts or
reading all the books because I want to heal
I I had never been to therapy myself. We couldn't
afford it But because of that incident we got
subsidized therapy so I went to therapy for the
first time and I just like threw myself into
this world of healing and growing and what I
was doing to myself to heal from the grief, I
started to applying to money and I started applying
to my business. And everyone's like, Marley,
like, what are you doing? You've lost 30 pounds.
You're making more a month than that corporate
job offered me for the year. You, you seem like
you're doing like not even fine, but like good.
Like what's going on? I'm like, I'm just like
reprogramming my subconscious mind. Like, what
are you guys doing? Like reprogramming what?
Like they didn't even know what I was talking
about. And I was like, Oh my gosh, because I
was designing websites and logos and I had built
this like massive business at like 25. I was
making like $70 ,000 a month. It was insane.
But and it was a result of me truly changing
my beliefs because I just learned like Tony Robbins
would say, you know Bruce Lipton Joe Dispenza
They're like if you just change your beliefs
and you change your thoughts you change your
reality I was like, well, that seems really easy
like I can I can do that But then no one was
teaching me how to change my limiting beliefs
I was like you have to change your limit, but
no one was teaching me how and I was like I'm
just so frustrated. I'm like, give me the result.
Give me the solution. I need the formula and
I will do it. But no one was teaching me how.
So I was like, OK, I'm going to figure this out
for the world because we need this. And so that's
where the clear the fear method came from, which
was basically a result of like, I want to clear
my own limiting beliefs and I want to break.
this poverty patterning I want to I want to show
I want to do it to show other people look what
is possible like I don't come from money I come
from the smallest town like literally on earth
I grew up thinking that I was bad at everything
and if I can do this like so can you and and
you don't need these you don't need years of
therapy you don't it's like literally once you
understand what your limiting belief is and you
clear it My clients have like instantaneous manifestations.
I like it's so magical and It's not even magical.
It's just just it's just evident and so obvious
and so truth that when you change your beliefs
you change your reality and now we have a tool
to do so and Be able to help others like not
only like feel good again and like develop self
-love, but then also, you know, meeting the love
of life, meeting their soulmates, you know, making
so much money that they get to retire their parents
or go to these trips around the world that they've
always wanted to go to or afford to fly first
class that they've always wanted to do, buy their
first house, afford IV therapy so they can have
their first child. Like, I am so passionate about
giving entrepreneurs the tools and honestly,
to be honest, this tool works for everyone. I
just have like a special niche for entrepreneurs
because I am myself, but I help anyone who wants
to change their life and change their living
beliefs to break through these lies that you've
been taught so that you can have be truly whatever
you desire. Right. Okay. So that's how they find
their limit, their full potential, unlock their
full potential because you did it. Awesome. Okay.
So I know that you said that, you know, you said
a lot in that one piece. Breaking free, give
us one step of breaking them, helping you, helping
them break free. I believe the first step to
breaking free is not the answer that everyone's
going to want to hear, but I'm going to tell
you anyways. The first step to breaking free
is understanding that you are the cause of your
reality. It's understanding that no one's coming
to save you. No one is doing this to you, not
the government, not society, not your parents.
It's like, and really taking a hundred percent
ownership of this is my life and I'm in charge
and I am in control of changing it. And, and,
and, and bringing and attracting into my life
what I desire because I am the cause of my effect.
And I really want you to take 100 % and only
when you take 100 % ownership of your life do
you break free. Or else you're controlled by
everything and everyone else around you thinking
it's everyone else's fault and it just keeps
you in this stuck matter that keeps you stuck.
But if you really want to break free, you have
to take 100 % ownership that you are in charge
of changing your life. That's great. That I agree
with totally at 100%. Now are people normally
showing up as successful person they want to
be or are they the striving person they're trying
to leave behind when they come to you? With my
work, I'm not here to convince people of why
this works or I'm not here to convince people
that it works right the people that come to me
are ready from a place of like i've done the
foundational work and now i'm ready to go like
good to incredible so i would say like i i speak
to everyone and i and i do want to my my i don't
want to leave anyone out i want to help everyone
Work is most potent when you have that already
have that self -awareness. You're like, okay,
I figured it out. I am in charge of creating
and changing my own life. I get it. And I've
done some of the work, but now I'm not seeing
the changes that I want to see. And the reason
why is because we all have hidden advantages
to why we are where we are. but those hidden
advantages actually live within our subconscious.
And so we can't see them. And just like a hairdresser
needs someone else to cut their own hair, and
just like a masseuse can't give themselves a
massage, they're called blind spots because they're
blind, right? It's like the area in the car that
looks to your left, you can't see, it's a blind
spot. And that's when... My clients are like,
I've done the work, but I can't figure out why
is it not changing. And I get to be like, okay,
here's your blind spot. And then it's like, they're
like, oh my gosh, I never would have seen that
on my own. And like, oh my gosh, like this is
the living belief that's causing all this chaos
and ruckus in my life. And then I get to be like,
yep, it's that one thing within 20 minutes. And
then it's like, has the most dramatic, amazing
impact on their life. So you're actually the
one that's kind of looking in and kind of, okay,
this is a limiting rule if you have, right? I'm
like, yeah, it's my favorite thing to do. Okay.
What is the most financially successful person
that they secretly resent? Is this something
that they secretly use them that you've kind
of dealt with? You know, if you worked with somebody,
an entrepreneur, right? Let me just say it like
this. If you worked with an entrepreneur, Vince
is a successful person. What is one of the things
that they resent and why do they believe that
they don't deserve that success? Oh, that's a
very good question. So. Could I answer the question
of like what is the number one block that successful
entrepreneurs have? This is so interesting and
I love answering this question because I think
a lot of people think you know, it's this very
intricate hard to find Confusing little like
you know in the haystack of like why they're
not where they want to be. I Would say number
one block is that they firstly not where they
want to be. So that mantra of I'm not where I
want to be is keeping them not where they want
to be. And what gets them to the success is acknowledging
the luxuries and blessings that they already
have to attract the next level. So it's like
acknowledging and creating what you currently
have. And then from a Desire and from a place
of this is so amazing and then wouldn't this
be so incredible? because otherwise you're you're
attracting from lack and trying to And you cannot
attract abundance from lack. So you need more
abundance from a place of abundance That's number
one and then number two is is I would say the
biggest limiting belief that I clear in my practice
and I see all across the board, that's like the
biggest block amongst all entrepreneurs, no matter
if they have $100 million a year or like $5 ,000
a year, is they believe that they're not enough.
And they have to, yeah. it's this deep wounding
of I'm not enough and then it gets projected
into their money that no matter how much they
make is never enough and they're trying to attract
more and more and more thinking that that's going
to fulfill the need of or the wounding of not
feeling enough but that's not how you heal of
wound on the inside we live in an inside out
world so you have to heal the want to be reflected
on the external so people that's why people have
millions a hundred million dollars and they're
still unsatisfied and depressed is because money
doesn't solve the deep inner child wounding of
not feeling enough. The number one thing that
I help my clients with is actually creating the
belief that they are enough just as they are.
They don't need the Ferrari. They don't need
the da -da -da -da -da -da -da, whatever they're
desiring to feel enough. And then when they start
to feel enough, guess what happens? All that
comes in because we get this universal lesson
of like, I'm not going to give you this until
you know that you are capable and you are enough.
And then when you know it, then you receive it.
And then the flip people try to attract these
things out of not feeling enough, not feeling
deserving, not feeling like like in needing that
thing to make them feel a certain way. But that's
not how you manage. That's not how you attract
like attract like. So if you want to attract
abundance, you need to feel abundant. If you
want to attract enough, you need to be enough.
And that I would the biggest unlock for most
entrepreneurs. OK, if someone hit their exact
massive financial goal, What's the first thing
that they're truly afraid they would lose? And
how can we use neuroscience to dismantle that
fear or loss? Their number one fear is that they're
going to lose it. That's the most interesting
thing. They are so people. all over the world
push away they sell sabotage attracting money
because they're actually so afraid we'll lose
it and with that once they get the often does
honestly leave because they've manifested that
their belief system is that it's going to go
away so it does and that you see that all the
time with lottery winners right they like win
all this money and if you google it the percentages
are that they all spend it within a year because
they were not And if we don't want to talk to
neuroscience, that reality feels unsafe to them
because that's not your comfort zone. Their comfort
zone, what their brain believes to be safe is
poverty, scarcity, lack, fear, right? Then they
get all this mud and it's like turning a thermostat
from like 20 degrees, like to 500 degrees. It's
so uncomfortable. And so the... They're like,
this is so uncomfortable. I need to cool this
back down to where I'm comfortable at 20 degrees.
So they get rid of all the money and they're
like, oh, OK, I'm finally safe. Now I have nothing
again, even though consciously they want all
that. That's their biggest dream. But on a subconscious
level in their brain, that is a threat. That
is a perceived threat. And so they push it all
the way to go back to their comfort zone. What
I so what I do in those moments is we need to
make your nervous system feel safe in the expansion
so often time and Firstly knowing that that is
like we make it no big deal So whenever I have
like a massive thing in business, I'll just be
like this is no big deal like of course This
is happening. Of course. This is if because if
I go oh my this is the most insane thing ever
My nervous system is gonna go. This is a threat.
I have to push away and we have to pay off around
this because this is unsafe whereas if it's like
of course I just made five hundred thousand dollars
yesterday why not like of course I did then it
calms it and it becomes normal and you have to
just make it so normal and so neutral and it
and it and you don't allow that thing to change
or adjust your energy because if you do your
brain goes red alert red alert this is a threat
and we need to push it away make it normal life
appears Life continues normally, like this is
just a normal thing and that's how you hold space
for it. And then you have to reset your financial
thermostat so that that is normal, right? So
it's like, it would be like us, you know, usually
the temperature is sent to 30 degrees and then
boom, now it's 500 degrees. We now need to take
some clothes off. Okay, 500 is ridiculous because
you'd actually die. But like, but like, how do
you make that normal? Okay, you put yourself
in a fridge and then you're fine. Right. It's
about about regulating yourself to that being
now normal. Okay. Your new normal. Okay. Right.
Your new normal. Okay. Is there any time that
a limiting belief actually a persistent limiting
belief is actually serving someone? That's such
a good question. It's always serving someone.
So that but that's It's an oxymoron. It's not
actually serving them because they're living
lack, they're living in doubt, they're living
in scarcity. But the only reason why you have
that lemming belief is because your brain believes
it's serving a purpose. It believes it's protecting
you. So there's something called an hidden advantage,
okay? So the only reason why we hold on to lemming
beliefs is that there's some sort of hidden advantage
to holding on to that belief. So often times
if we're talking about money if you are stuck
in debt Let's say what I see in my practice is
the reason why the hidden advantage to why people
stay in debt is Because for most people they
get bailed out by their parents or they have
some sort of connection financially to their
parents so if they were actually living in abundance
or actually were just Independent and didn't
and we're then they would lose the connection
with their parents, which doesn't make any logical
sense, but to your subconscious, who's basically
all it's here to do is keep you alive and then
survive, not thriving. And that survival mechanism
is like an animalistic brain and it will never
do anything to potentially get ostracized or
cut out from the tribe. And so it's this part
of our brain that's like super tribal that is
totally outdated for 2025, but it's still here.
still operating and people don't realize and
they're like consistently experiencing this debt
and then they're wondering what's going on or
they're or they're constantly hitting this certain
amount of money in business and they can't figure
out why can't I break through this there's some
sort of hidden advantage that your brain isn't
bringing you to the next level because it's something
about that is scary you're gonna lose someone
you think subconsciously you're gonna lose someone
you fear you have this underlying fear And it's
actually, there's a hidden advantage that's protecting
you from not going there because they think that
that part, like subconsciously, that's super
scary, but it's actually logically obviously
not. But your brain doesn't know that. OK. OK,
I got it. Yeah. I think that we do similar work.
Mine's more around trauma and that kind of thing.
And we talk about the unconscious anchor, right?
What is the lowest vibration or vibrational thing
that an entrepreneur repeatedly does that gives
them an unconscious anchor? I mean, I think that
they are stuck in fear. OK, OK. fear of not being
good enough, fear of they're not being enough,
fear of being seen, fear of receiving, fear of
judgment, fear of humiliation, fear of being
abandoned, fear of being betrayed, all these
fears, keeping them completely stuck. And again,
they don't know, like they don't know. And that's
why so many guys come to me, like I've tried
every Instagram, you know, course, I've tried
all these things, I can't show up online. I'm
like, yeah, it's because you have this deep...
deep underlying fear of being seen. So you can
take all the interim courses you want, but you
will always go back to your comfort zone, which
is you have this deep fear of being seen, but
they can't see it because it's in the subconscious
mind. And they know it's kind of directly, they
don't know it's kind of directly to their past,
like maybe they were abandoned, you know, and
that's, of course, that's fear, but that abandonment
is that connection, that feeling of abandonment
is that connection to that. that past issue.
So yeah, so they're stuck moving around. That's
really good. Is there something that one last
thing that you can say to an entrepreneur that's
out there that's really struggling? Is there
one thing that you can say to them that encouraged
them to go in a direction that they need to?
Yes. I can guarantee whoever's listening to this,
you will be successful. I can promise you and
guarantee that you will be successful if you
do just two things, just two things. You don't
have to be smarter than anyone else. You don't
have to be more qualified than anyone else. You
don't have to come from money. You don't have
nothing. I just need you to have these two things.
Number one is that you never give up. No matter
what happens, no matter what anyone says, no
matter what's going on in reality, you just never
give up. And number two, you have to believe
it's possible if you have those two things I
can promise you and I can guarantee you that
you will be successful if you just never give
up and that you you believe it's possible because
I would say all the reason why all businesses
most businesses fails because people just give
up they're like wait I've been doing this for
five minutes it's not working so I'm just gonna
give up And this expectation that's gonna happen,
because we see on Instagram, oh my gosh, so -and
-so got, you know, you don't see all this stuff
and everything that happened before that moment.
So if you just never give up and you believe
that it's possible, I promise you that you'll
be successful. That's awesome. Well, you heard
an audience never give up and believe that it
can be done. Those questions are pure fuel, but
the answers are purely transformational. Thank
you for the incredible insight, Marlee. For our
listeners who are ready to take those answers
and finally reprogram your consciousness with
ease, where can we find your app? So my app is
called The Higher Self App. You can find it on
the App Store, Google Play Store, and you can
find me anywhere at Marley Rose Harris. All right.
You have been served the roadmap to your highest
self, ladies and gentlemen, and everyone in between.
Thank you again, Marley Rose Harris, for an episode
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