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Hello, hello, I hope everything is going well

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in your world I just wanted to drop a little

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bonus episode because I have too much bubbling

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over I can't hold it in I recently recorded an

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episode with Andrea Van Gordon who lives in Oregon

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and is creating a retreat space center which

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I find absolutely beautiful and would love to

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plan a trip to sometime uh we started chatting

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before i officially introduced her and we began

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our episode but what we talked about in our chat

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was just so good i have to share so here's you

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know coming up i'll share our conversation that

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we had prior to our recording and then look forward

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to her episode coming in a few weeks In the meantime,

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I just wanted to talk a little bit about some

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things going on recently in my life. I keep saying

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it. I recently started homeschooling my daughter,

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right? But there's something that happened I

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thought was so funny. I wanted to share with

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you guys. One day in particular, she was having

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difficulty focusing. She really wanted to, she

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worked for like 10 minutes and then want a 30

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minute break. So it was taking forever to get

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her work done. And I went with her to Home Goods

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and she picked out a new chair. Of course, it

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had to be a gigantic leather chair that was five

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hundred dollars. But whatever floats our boat.

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And then she wanted a new desk and. I got her

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a stand for the laptop and a new keyboard and

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all these different things, new lights and lamps

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and LED lights in her room, making it really

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comfortable space for her to want to be in comfortable

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enough that she can be there for a while and

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do her work, you know? So I was talking with

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her on this one particular day, she was having

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difficulty focusing and I was trying to describe

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to her, you know, I'm your teacher now, so not

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just your mom, I'm also your teacher. And I want

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to have things be organized for you and easily

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accessible with a routine so that you know what

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you need to get done, you know. And I said, there's

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a science to learning. And she said, science

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is learning. And that's when I realized I don't

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need to push to get things done. That's really

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like the old way. And so since then, it's been

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probably two weeks since that. I mean, it really

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just shook me. Science is learning. I was like,

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facts, you are correct about that. It just humbled

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me in a way that I was like, you know what? She's

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very intelligent. It's not about like, you know,

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getting the work done and spending the time.

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It's about supporting her creativity and intelligence

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and her schedule, allowing it to be a little

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bit more inconsistent because she is a manifester

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and she does not have consistent energy. So just

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allowing her ebbs and flows and supporting her

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and creativity, like I said. Also enrolled her

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in gymnastics, which she's really excited about

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she's used to do that and she's excited to get

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back to it But since then in the past two weeks

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I've really relaxed on the online program and

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we've been doing more worksheets and hands -on

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learning stuff she also She has my old laptop

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and it has Canva on it and I showed it to her

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and she just like instinctively knows. And she

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has such a great time working on Canva. And I'm

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like, this, this is learning, you know? So I

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just so many ways to reframe what learning is,

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and what that means, what that looks like, and

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not just checking things off of a list to get

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them done, but instead being present enough to

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realize that Things can be done differently.

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It doesn't mean it's wrong so that's You know,

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I just love it I love the the revelations that

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come through everyday interactions and my daughter

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because she's with me so often and Obviously

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an integral part of my life for obvious reasons

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She just shows me so much. She teaches me so

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many things and I think it's Fun to share so

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I appreciate you listening and wanting to hear

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One other thing I wanted to mention that I thought

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was very beautiful that my daughter was saying

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when we were falling asleep we talk when we're

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winding down and falling asleep and We were talking

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about when she was born And I was describing

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her that she was not all the way out yet But

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her head was out and I was concerned because

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I thought that she should be crying And I was

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like, why isn't she crying? And the doctor was

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like, she's not out yet. But, you know, I was

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just really wanted to make sure she was safe,

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you know, obviously. And when she was born, she

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I could barely hold her in my arms because I

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was using my arms to pull my legs back, which

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I did not need to do. But I couldn't feel my

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legs. So I didn't know that. And I was really

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holding them back like I thought I had to. Anyway,

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then my arms were like jello and I felt like

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I could barely hold her. Anyway, she was saying,

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I said that I was worried that she didn't cry

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right away. She said, you didn't push very hard.

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I had to try really hard to get out. She said.

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And she's probably right because I had an epidural

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when I had her and I really I took a nap I didn't

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move I laid stills on the back all the things

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that are actually not innate in in childbirth

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but Yeah, that contribute to the baby having

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to try really hard to get out. So when she said

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that I was like, wow you it's I could just see

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from her perspective that she was really talking

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from a place of awareness and she wasn't just

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uh saying that um then she went on to say that

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when babies are born they usually don't cry until

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they're on their mom and they need to be patted

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like patting your hand on their back and they

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need to hear their mom's heart because it brings

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them into awareness into self -awareness. And

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then that's when they realized they can breathe.

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And I was like, that makes so much sense. But

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she was saying it again, from a perspective where

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I really feel like she was speaking from her

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experience, not just what she would imagine.

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It just meant so much to me when she described

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it that way. And there are many times in our

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lives when we are so overwhelmed, we might become

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disconnected and a pat on the back is what brings

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us back into the now moment and just give yourself

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a pat on the back you know if if you find ever

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that you feel disconnected or you're not sure

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what's going on take a minute get grounded pat

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yourself you know do some tapping uh do some

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chanting and singing screaming crying whatever

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the fuck you want um but yeah it just really

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highlighted to me the natural expression of human

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connection through emotion and physical touch.

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So I'll leave you at that. And I hope you enjoy

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this pre -recording conversation bonus episode

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with Andrea Van Gordon. And again, look out for

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her episode coming in the next few weeks. I hope

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you have a wonderful day or night wherever you

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are. Stay blessed We recently have I understood

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the word sensual for what it truly means and

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instead of like sexual or taboo or like like

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sort of like a Personally a little bit of an

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icky feeling or like I said, like a taboo, you

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know, but it's not at all. It's literally embodying

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your senses and feeling that truly from a very

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grounded place in your body. And like sensual

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embodiment, you know, it means a whole different

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thing to me than it did a couple of months ago.

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And, you know, I thought I knew a lot, but isn't

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that so interesting? The things that you think

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about, like they can always evolve a little bit.

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And then you're like, wow, like that was just

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my own perception. Yeah, it's such, it's such

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a journey. And I think that, you know, the more

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as we move through kind of this massive shift

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that I do think collectively is happening, but

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I do think that there tends to be, you know,

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people that are on the forefront that are possibly

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kind of trailblazing the way or like kind of

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code keepers to be optimizing the frequency.

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alchemizing and holding certain things so that

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it can move but it does like it gives me such

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empathy rather than like coming up and being

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like oh i got it all figured out just empathy

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where every single person is and just like That's

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okay. Yes, it's okay. Literally the same way

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I recently recorded another episode with a different

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guest and they were like, really, because we

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were talking about how shamans are human. They're

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human ever like we're all humans. Like we're

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not perfect. There is no expectation of perfection.

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And the human qualities that we embody the strongest

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are actually like our superpowers and understanding

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and accepting where people are at in their own

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journey, but not letting that hold you back from

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jumping into healing work because, you know,

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it's really important. Everything personally,

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any Akashic reading that I've ever done for someone,

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it is always reflective of something that I needed

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to hear or learn for in my own journey. And I'm

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like, so thankful for it. It's like a gift in

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itself. Just seeing other people's perspectives

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allows me to always, um, apply it a little bit

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differently to my own situations and expand and

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grow and be able to conceptualize larger. Pieces

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and, and archetypal understandings can actually

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all the things, you know? Right. I think, yeah,

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I agree. There's so much like. that I've learned

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from other people's journey, but it only has

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been like these confirmations in what I'm already.

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It's not like, oh, they got it figured out if

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I could just, you know, do what they do. But

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it's been just like reflections back to like,

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oh, this. Yeah, I've felt and seen that or I

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mean, or like that resonates. It's such a more

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I love the word resonate because it's such a

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I can listen and hear different people's stories

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and their journeys and the things that resonate

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are the things that like amplify or solidify

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things in me deeper. And then I can just let

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go of the other stuff. Like, it's no longer where

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I have to sit in judgment of, well, like, they

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don't got it all right. Yeah. It brings the connections

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to the forefront in a way that they can be addressed

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in a more orderly fashion, because it's like

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outside of you at this point. So it's not like,

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you know, questioning. It's like a reflective

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surface. this other person that you're connecting

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with and you apply it to yourself. And I think

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that's what we're all supposed to do naturally.

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Like that is how we all grow is by opening up,

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expanding, sharing, reflecting and considering

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in every day with a more expansive outlook than

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the previous one. Yeah. Yeah. which is difficult.

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I think it's fun. Well, I mean, it's fun, but

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I just want I always want to acknowledge that

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because I think we can kind of, you know, we

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can have days or times when like you're like,

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oh, this is fun. Like it is. And then you're

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like other times where you're like. Oh, shit.

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Why did I sign up? Let me get off this ride.

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Yes. No, I can't. You don't really want to get

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off the ride. There's a little bit of like, oh

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my God. Like, seriously? Do I have to? It's a

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lot. But then even in those moments, the little

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perspective comes through very clearly and it's

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similar to this meme I've seen. I forget who

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actually initiated it, but it's this girl crying.

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She's like, and then all of a sudden she hears

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her spirit guides and it's like, bitch. What

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are you crying for? You're a witch. Get up. Go

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do some spells and shit. And it's like, yeah,

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you're right. You're right. You're wrong. And

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it's like, you can have those own like realizations

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in yourself when you're like kind of wallowing

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in it. Like we need to, we really do. We need

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to be able to feel, to be able to integrate,

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to expand. And I'm like, it sounds like just

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words that I just said, but like. on the level

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for our own personal journeys, it's so important

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to actually really go to those depths and not

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ignore the feelings that we get in our intuition

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and to explore more into why is that? And for

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people who hesitate or maybe don't understand

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like the Akashic records, for example, just conceptually,

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they're not able to understand it. It's similar,

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I think a lot in a lot of ways for me to like

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Wi -Fi. and the cloud storage like that's like

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the easiest way for me to explain it's like I

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can tap in and download information and then

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through my senses I try my best to describe what

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I'm receiving and I'm a hundred percent of the

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time it resonates with people so I know I'm not

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making it up sometimes I feel like I'm making

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shit up but I just I've learned that's when you

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really need to speak because it's true it really

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is and and and we gaslight ourselves a lot of

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times, especially intuitive women with witch

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wounds, gaslighting ourselves thinking that's

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just my imagination or that's just my own stuff

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and I'm just crazy. But it's our gifts. They're

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all present for everyone. For sure. It's such

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a learning to kind of tap into that frequency.

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and then trust that what's coming through is

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such, I mean, it's just such a beautiful thing.

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And you start realizing like, oh my God, like

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it is, like you said, art inherent, it is who

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we are to be able to do that. And it's such a...

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And connect on that level as intimate as it may

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seem. I mean, initially I had a very abrupt spiritual

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awakening and mine in particular had some elements

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of interdimensional interference and there was

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a real fear of mine that everyone could read

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my mind. But in a sense, I understood that that

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was an organic ability that we all have and so

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in a way I was trying to reconcile like to move

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up into this new frequency because of the awareness

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that I had attained I needed to recognize that

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on this level you cannot hide anything in your

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mind you you have to be ready to be seen in every

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nook and cranny and own it And you have to be

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ready to see everybody else's nooks and crannies

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and hold that. It was very, very clear to me.

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And that might sound paranoid. And sometimes

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I felt paranoid about it. But it's also like

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I've had... five or so years to unravel that

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unwind and relax into the fact that that's actually

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just my spiritual gifts and intuition. And I

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was at a level that was very fast and very forceful

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and it was uncomfortable, but that doesn't mean

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it was bad. So yeah, it was. It's such a, I think

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I felt something very similar to that, where

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I had a lot of like tapping ins, you know, before

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I even knew, let's say what the Akasha Records

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was, or, you know, I was very, could tap into

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what I would say spirit and that. But similar,

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there's such truth and clarity in that. And when

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I realized that like, that same truth and clarity

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is wanting to be present in our lived reality,

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especially as women. It's been something that

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we've muted our inherent truths, our intuitive

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voice, our knowings, kind of that. witchy yes

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yes we have due to you know time and time again

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of it not being allowed or persecuted but for

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me it's been such an interesting experience how

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my when I say my lived reality kind of more this

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3d like just earth experience and this tapping

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into was trying to come closer and closer together

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meaning like there's such truth and and clarity

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Yes. Up in the the Kashuk records are in my knowing

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up here. But then the ability to kind of just

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really clearly speak that out and express that

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in the 3d in the lived reality felt so stuck

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and and like And a lot of that I think is due

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to the frequencies outside of ourselves or the

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expectations or the standards of general society

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or the people that we've been in relationship

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with that we have now evolved away from and out

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of. And it's just so blindingly clear, black

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and white, what's going on and the choices to

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make. And it does feel very like Like I, I know

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this every, it's, it is left and right. Like

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you'll, it's like angel and demon on your shoulders.

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Like I'm getting this and this is what I feel

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in my body to be true, you know, but this is

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what I'm dealing with in my reality. And like,

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this isn't what I want. being aware of that,

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being able to actively shape it. And like you

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said, when you were describing the two different

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paths resonating with clarity and truth, I literally

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saw the amount of light and then the subsequent

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particulates that vibrate around literally magnetize

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and they collide. And that's how you jump timelines.

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Yeah. And I think we, you know, like I didn't

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realize how much like that I was creating at

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this certain level and in myself at this level,

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but there was still a level I would say in my

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lived reality, kind of more this down to earth

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reality that wasn't yet mirroring that. And then

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I began so feeling it in my body of like, you

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know, like, what is this? The fluctuation to

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like, it's almost like the undulation of like,

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cells before. And I don't I would like to say

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with people like, it's not like this. It really

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is just something that takes time to integrate

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And it's not out of like judgment and myself

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that I'm like, oh my god. I'm just this inauthentic

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person I didn't you know, I mean it is just the

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stripping away of all those layers and shedding

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all those things that have have covered up held

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back and quieted you know, just all those layers

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that just have to come out through release, through

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experience, through all the things in order for

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it to come in. And then when it starts to land

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more deeply into this lived experience, then

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there's no going back. You've stepped into that

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new timeline and you're like, okay, like I said,

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I feel like I've landed. There's something that

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has like, released shed pulled off to be able

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to integrate that in a deeper way. And it's very,

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yeah, it's interesting. It's, it's amazing sometimes

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when you have those thoughts and you're trying

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to manifest something and you start to get that

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feedback that it's trickling into your reality.

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And it's just, you know, sometimes the, the synchronistic

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ways that things will persist in your awareness

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and it's like very clear this is something I

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need to follow this is obviously for a reason

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and it's so I don't want to get into any specifics

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about your personal details but I do want to

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share that we have worked together in a container

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with Amy Blair and just recently we went through

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was it like Four months or six months. I don't

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recall. I know I feel like I've been working

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with her I know yes, but this specific one and

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Same I've been working with her for years and

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it's almost like I didn't I One could say you

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don't need to join groups like this, but I have

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to I have to say the power that comes when you're

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in a group the alignment and the connection it's

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like Why why wouldn't I join a container in this

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sense to be able to like me? You know have have

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a group that I look forward to meeting with and

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sitting in that type of energy to find clarity

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for a specific purpose in my life and my soul

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path and I mean like that's therapy to me that's

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therapy I mean helpful to have other people that

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are kind of at the same level of the journey

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that you're on to reflect back to you like you

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know they'll say something or share something

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that you're like oh yeah that's exactly that's

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exactly the path the journey that I'm on right

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now and it just yeah it just it's it's like having

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pals on your hike yeah for sure and connections

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like I feel so thankful to have been able to

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connect online in groups such as this and also

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like Instagram and different different ways that

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people communicate. I just so appreciate having

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these connections all over the world. And I think

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we're so lucky. But like at the same time, we

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can talk at any time directly soul to soul without

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ever opening our mouths. And I find that also

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incredible. I think that we are just barely beginning

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to scratch the surface on the level of understanding

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of the connectivity that our consciousness has,

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especially when we're sleeping. Where do we go?

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I just love thinking about that, talking about

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that. Thank you so much for listening to this

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preview of our conversation and check back in

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a few weeks for Andrea's full episode. Until

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then, take care. I had to let my soul breathe

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Moonsign Pisces, heart broke psyche Angels all

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around me but demons wanna fight me Feel like

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I had to fight myself, know I had to look inside

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With a predisposition to addiction Through the

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negatives I'm still focused on the vision It's

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sorta like that first scene you see in pole fiction

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I see an end but it's really only the beginning

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I had to find a way to be grateful For them locked

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doors that you made close When doves cry it's

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so painful But the purple rain is so graceful

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I'm fighting battles Lost between the lights

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and the shadows Trying to shoot me down, I'm

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dodging all the ammo Left me hanging, I escaped

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from the gallows Swim through the ether, blowin'

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on a reefer Runnin' like Rev when he rapped about

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Adidas It's like my flow is heaven sent My energy

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can shift the cards in your tarot deck Life ain't

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always what it seemed An alternate reality, I'm

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living in a dream I got the Stussy on the T with

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the 501 jeans Ray -Ban locs with the Airman I

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gotta jump time lines when I'm living in stress

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And a spliff in my chest, it got me lifting and

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blessed Peace, you know the rest
