Hello and welcome to another episode of In My
Experience with yours truly, Christine DiGinto.
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Happy Spring. I hear my wind chimes, I have windows
open, I hear kids playing outside. Brings me
joy. I'm happy to usher in a new season of growth
and beauty. Today I have a... Wonderful conversation
with Jeremy Silva aka steelo free One half of
the outside minds podcast, which I was just recently
a guest on I heard an episode that he was a guest
on Amy Biller's podcast recently Where he shared
his awakening story and it resonated with me
on multiple levels. So I reached out to him The
connect I invited him to come on to my show and
we talked a little bit about my experience because
I heard about his awakening So he started asking
me questions about my awakening, which I still
have not Given to you all here as a reference
point But I'm starting to discuss more and more
this experience that I had about five years ago
in May of 2021 where I jumped timelines for a
brief period of time and then came back into
my body and had multiple levels of disclosure
regarding my soul, my journey, my mission, my
contracts, and some accessory facts regarding
entities that believe they own me. How hilarious.
So, it's been a journey. Not too difficult to
dissociate. Because it is very easy to dissociate,
isn't it? Sometimes I do, I'll be honest. We
all do. Recognizing those points where we do
and kind of... Stop stopping yourself from doing
that integrating the knowledge between all of
the parts of yourselves and moving forward in
a in a positive reinforced stable way That's
what we're here for. So I hope you enjoy this
conversation that I had with Jeremy we touch
on a few points again regarding my initial awakening
and Just a little preview to share. I also this
past weekend listened back to the first reading
that I had with my local shaman who is a Native
American shaman for her whole life she studied
born shaman and she helped guide me eight months
after my experience it took me quite a long time
and and much research to even be able to articulate
in English. uh what i believe happened uh in
a in a way that like without crying or you know
getting upset or having really like flashbacks
to the point where i'm like not able to be have
a cohesive conversation because it was such a
jarring experience but thank fucking god for
it and i know and it's reiterated in her reading
again she describes how it was a contracted experience
i asked for this and i was like let's just skip
right through all like i want all of it in normal
fashion, regular fashion of course, I'm like
send it, give it all. To my chagrin sometimes,
only sometimes though. Yeah, so enjoy this episode
and I'll catch up with you at the end. Hold on
now, I had to come back on here and say something.
I just heard a kid outside. and i'm not even
near the window but i heard the kids he says
let's go hunt for a clover and it just brought
the biggest smile to my face so i'm gonna leave
you with that now enjoy so technically jeremy
and i are just meeting right now we've never
talked before besides uh just an invitation to
come on to the show i heard you speaking on Amy
Belair's podcast. I love Amy. I adore her. She's
great. She's so great. And I've worked with her
for over four years now and just so appreciate
her. Yeah. And my journey, it's just really,
I feel very called to be connected with her type
of energy and the information that she's bringing
through. I just feel like she articulates things
so beautifully. Are you an Akashic Records reader
or do you do any kind of intuitive work? Okay,
nice, nice. Yes, that is what I have come to
do and I call it the Akashic Records. People
see it differently. People sometimes visualize
it as like a library a lot of times or like records,
but I just basically channel like the frequency
field of information through all of my players
like and it comes in different ways. Information
drops in differently. You know, but I've learned
to Tune myself and hone Those Claire's through
her programs primarily, okay So I feel where
the signs are coming from and listen to the signs
and understand symbolism that your consciousness
is speaking or subconscious is speaking to you
in Yeah. Yeah, I was going through an Akashic
Records reading course uh but I didn't finish
it I got about halfway through uh because I just
wasn't ready for it it was very hard and um I
still have the course like online I can still
do it and go back into it and have all the all
the book and paperwork and stuff like that but
uh but lately I've been really into tarot um
as you heard on the podcast but um but yeah I
wanted to ask you were you always like uh Intuit
like kind of intuitive like inherently or did
that kind of like happen to you through like
an NDE or psychedelics or anything like that?
I'm finding that I have always been But I was
kind of Societally gaslit into like that's not
real that's in your head like why that's just
an educated guess yeah Yeah, I was never a conspiracy
theorist like I didn't follow conspiracies people
would say crazy shit, and I just feel like what
But then as time went on, the picture, the symptoms,
the signs are just so fucking loud anymore. And
I did eventually have an experience, a metaphysical
experience, I call it, where I essentially, oh
my gosh, I essentially jumped timelines consciously.
But I didn't mean to. I was basically made to
through psychic attack. But I think that I also
planned it with that soul Like somewhere along
the lines. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but I didn't know
like I'm just me over here in this life and I
have no idea and then all of a sudden it was
like Like everything opened up and I'm like what
the fuck and I had like no prior not like I didn't
know what chakras were I didn't know anything
about Really any other worldly religions or cultures
or practices. I was always very interested in
Greek mythology I feel very aligned Greek mythology.
Yeah, I've never been associated with religions
though like even Christianity like I always sort
of like rejected organized like religion and
I have my own sort of like connection with spirit
and God, as I said. It's funny because the more,
the more I study like the esoteric larias of
stuff and I'm getting into like Kabbalah, hermeticism,
narcissism, like the more that's turning me into
a Christian. The more I'm looking into like the
esoteric teachings of Jesus Christ and really
like what internally he was trying to teach us
about consciousness. I'm really attracted to
it right now. But yeah, growing up, I was just
super, I remember super being into Greek mythology
and just being like really captivated, especially
by the art. Like I would draw like the helmets.
and stuff like that, the little, the warrior
helmet and like the gods and stuff like that.
But yeah, it was really interesting to me before
growing up. And I've been, I'm in this group
with these kids that used to be in the gay program.
I don't know if you ever heard of it, but it
was like the CIA program where they tried to
find psychics. And a lot of the kids that I'm
talking to in this group had similar. similar
interest growing up, like Greek mythology and
stuff like that, too. Yeah, it's so funny. This
always happens. It's probably because I'm a psychic.
I should probably just accept it. But I still
always have to word it before I start talking.
But I don't know you. We've never met. But I
always think ahead, like when I'm preparing,
getting ready, putting things together, I'm like,
I wonder what we'll talk about. And I get answers.
and this is along the lines of like something
that I was speaking about. I was like, I wonder
if he was like a little weirdo too. Like, because
I was thinking, no offense to you, but because
I don't know you, but I was like, I don't talk
to many men in this space that are spiritual
and have these same types of like thoughts that
might just be because of where I am around like
the East coast. It's just a little bit more about
what you do for work. how much money you make,
what you look like. People don't make eye contact
in the grocery store kind of thing. It's kind
of fucked up. I feel real weird out here. I've
been out West. I've traveled more in the past
five years than I ever had in my life. And I
find, you know, I'm received very differently
in other places than I am here. And it could
be. My energy, but it could be the collective
energy of. the space where you are, but for whatever
reason, I don't run into a lot of guys who create
this amount of focus in their lives to recognize
and learn and think and conceptualize it. I find
it fascinating. Yeah, well, especially when you
get into like the metaphysical side of stuff
and like, you know, like tarot reading and like
Akashic record reading like that's very like
divine feminine and bass because it's very intuitive
very creative and I kind of have always been
really in touch with the divine feminine so to
speak like why I've always kind of been in touch
with my emotions like when I played football
as a kid like My mom will be like man, you know,
he's over there crying on the ground The coach
is like he's not gonna be crying no more next
season when they're all making fun of him She's
like he don't care. Like he'll just he'll cry
it out. You know what I mean? And that's kind
of how I always been I feel like I've always
been forced to with confrontation with my emotions,
so I've always kind of had to be in touch with
them in order to navigate, you know what I mean?
So I feel like that could be a reason why I've
been able to step into this space a little bit
more confidently than a lot other males because,
you know, a lot of other dudes, you don't see
them doing like, you know, tarot readings and
Akashic record readings and stuff like that and
just and being open about spirituality, you know
what I mean? Like because as society, we're kind
of forced to put out this front that, you know,
we're supposed to be strong. And we're just supposed
to be like the masculine aspect But you know
as you would probably know when the more you
look into spirituality It's really about knowing
that we all have a divine masculine and divine
feminine within us and and the point is to balance
those and and women aren't naturally intuitive
and have natural ESP because they're naturally
more in tune with their divine feminine and whereas
men are kind of like more, you know And they
kind of excel like in the workforce and stuff
like that. And they're a little bit better at
time management and logic and stuff like that
is because we're a little bit more in touch with
the divine masculine. And, you know, I like each
gender needs to explore the counterpart in order
to have a more balanced way of navigating through
the matrix. You know what I mean? Yeah, absolutely.
Absolutely. Interestingly, I was thinking about.
I have this. So you're talking about the gate
program. I think that I am also involved in government
programs, but here's the thing. I don't think
I'm special. I think a lot of people have been
tracked by the government and infiltrated through
their dreams and targeted because of their capabilities
and also like intentionally interfered with like
I was describing. And I don't mean to talk about
this to spread fear, just awareness, just awareness,
because You know, that was one of the things
that I seemed to walk away with knowledge wise
after that experience where I jumped timelines
and I was like in an alternate timeline and something
was happening that didn't make sense to me. And
because I questioned it and tuned into my heart
and my emotions, I like broke out of that came
back into my body and was like, what the fuck?
Like I looked up above me and there was a big
screen like just floating in the air. And I was
like, what is, like, is this aliens? Like, what
the fuck is this? You know what I mean? It was
crazy. And did you, did the, when you said, like,
you feel like you were, like, being tracked by
the government, did you feel like that kind of
coincided with your event when you jumped timelines
or were they connected with, like, the people
who were doing the psychic attacks on you or
anything like that? Were those events coincided?
It's different levels. Like, this thing that
I experienced, I think it was personal on a soul
level, like I had an agreement with someone that
I described as like my twin flame, he passed
away. But we had a telepathic, sentient connection.
And I could feel him and like hear him and like,
I felt very connected to him. And I actually,
I wouldn't say that I cheated because I had already
moved out and like left my ex husband and then
pursued this person but he had a girlfriend so
I consider it cheating because I knew that and
but I didn't know her I never met her see if
I met her I would have never done that but like
because I didn't know her we had such a strong
connection like I actually just couldn't even
stop it so I think that it was karmically like
intentional because what the fuck you know what
I mean like that's not normal for me to just
like you know but I took that leap in my breaking
my morals. And then so when this event happened,
I thought that basically I thought, uh, I became
a sinner and that something happened. Like God
was like punishing me or something because I
have this like programming, just living in America
under trying to understand what God is. Like
I don't really have a religious framework. Like
I just was like, wow, is it because I sinned
because I did something that I knew was wrong
and this is what I have to do. And was that the
only religious framework that you had like for
reference? Like you weren't into spirituality
at the time or anything? No, not at all. No,
but I always like had love and hope and believed
like in heaven and believed in ghosts and but
I was kind of more afraid of it because I didn't
understand it. I didn't think of it in a metaphysical
quantum, physical kind of way, now I do. And
it really has expanded my framework of understanding
of the different levels, the different parts
that play over and over, the archetypal themes,
the opportunities that come up that we kind of
prepare for, we plan for that, and we agree to
this. And it's sort of like, what are we doing
here? Why is this happening? And one of the things,
I guess what happened after I did that, and if
you I mean I don't want to repeat it like tell
this story over and over because it's I know
I'm just like are your followers are your listeners
probably have already heard like heard it a bunch
of times so we can get into like whatever you
want to ask me but this is super interesting
to me yeah no I haven't talked about it on my
podcast yet because I figured that it'll just
come out throughout each one because it is like
the pivotal moment so I will repeatedly be talking
about it but like I don't want to take all the
time talking about it with you but uh just say
Amy's Podcast I've been on that a few times and
the most recent one I described it more clearly
than I ever have before because it has been difficult
for me to articulate even to give language to
because I didn't have the language I wasn't a
conspiracy theorist and I didn't I wasn't spiritual
in the sense of like You know thinking that that
was possible now. I've seen things on TV like
Loki and like, you know, just things that you're
like, oh, yeah, that's cool. But science fiction
stuff, the Umbrella Academy, whatever, whatever.
Like so many examples. The Good Place. That's
like my favorite show. Dr. Strange is a really
good one. No, I haven't seen The Good Place.
Oh, my gosh. You would probably like it. It's
it's so good. It's good just for future reference
if you ever see it anywhere. It's one of those
that like I've been able to watch it so many
times. Like I've seen the whole. Series of it.
Probably like six times because when I'm in like
a little show hole and like what am I gonna watch
if they are they talk about ethics and philosophy
and what happens after you die and they go through
these Scenarios where they play through different
lifetimes with the same souls repeatedly till
they Convince a universal court that they need
to change the system in which they measure people
to go heaven and hell because it was very unbalanced
I Love it. I just it's such a great show. I love
it so much but uh it's hilarious uh and it's
funny once you go through a spiritual awakening
and you watch this media like these movies and
shows like you get a much very different uh you
know meaning from it when you when you've gone
through these experiences you know what i mean
you realize that they're showing you what it
really is and it's not just the movies and then
that famous phrase that they get to say then
when you when you try to compare it to a movie
it's like That's just your mind. That's just
because you saw it in a movie. And it's like,
no, it's the disclosure. So what I was saying
about that experience that I had after I came
back into my body, I had some repeated, very
intense downloads of information about my soul,
the different lifetimes that I've experienced,
what I'm supposed to be doing. and how the world
works like the archontic matrix the false matrix
and like what they're doing to kids and the whole
basically like epstein stuff like all all that
kind of reality and then i was like what the
fuck is this this is a nightmare like i'm gonna
you know is it like the truman show i remember
saying that is it like the truman show um but
after i had that experience i started wondering
like what the actual fuck and I really was trusting
things that just were coming to me. And somehow
I came across Amy's podcast. I started listening
to her, but she had just had her son and she
wasn't available for readings. And I worked with
one of her protegees named Heather and I did
a container with her and she was telling me about
how a faction of aliens. For lifetimes, but in
this lifetime as well have abducted my consciousness
many times and they put me in Simulations where
I have to struggle to get out like I'll be in
a swamp Wow Climbing digging fighting and they
they continuously do this because they're trying
to study me they're trying to figure out why
I never give up and I'm like what the actual
fuck What and she's like, yeah, it's mostly in
your dreams Like you usually don't remember it
but like it's a portion of your consciousness
that they continuously test on because they want
to figure out They can't understand why you never
give up and I was like, I mean the simplest answer
is because I am made of source Because I've source
in me and source never ends or gives up and never
will so that's a simple answer uh and she's like
yeah they just can't understand that because
they're not connected to source like they just
can't understand that's why they're like what
are we gonna do how why you know why does it's
so weird like that's the only thing they're trying
to figure out they're not trying to torture me
specifically they're trying to figure out why
i never give up which is it's funny they're trying
to figure out the resilience of your consciousness
yeah it's like why is she so strong Yeah. So
for the longest time, and Amy was one of the
first people that said to me that she thought
I was in the 20 and back program. And I never
even heard of that. I was like, what are you
talking about? Oh yeah. Yeah. That's a deep rabbit
hole where they, it's like time travel and stuff
like that. Yes. Yes. Oh, we got to do episode
on that. Yeah. Yeah. It's also like, they can
copy your consciousness and put it into a body.
Like not just use your consciousness and put
it back in your own body, but copy it and send
it off into make super soldiers that way. Like
I've heard people talking about, I've looked
into some survivor's tales after I even heard
about what it was. I've looked into people's,
uh, you know, things, uh, Tony Rodriguez and
different things, but they have like firsthand
knowledge of training. I didn't have experiences
like that. A lot of this stuff is in my dreams
and To be honest with you, a lot of it personally
for me is sexual abuse and super soldier missions.
I'm like an assassin, but I'm also still a female
and that translates into my life. One time I
woke up and I saw people standing around my bed.
Okay, so when I say people, I only said that
because they were shaped like people, but all
I could see was the outline. Okay. the inside
of where their body would be was like moving
around, like wavy heat, like a mirage. So that's
the only way I could see it. If that wasn't happening,
but I think that that was because they were a
different frequency. And I've subsequently learned
that there's like VR technology that people associated
with the secret space program and or satanic
ritual abuse. or ball worship, different things
like that. They have technology to like. Not
just Astro project, but they do like life force
harvesting, like through your dreams. I'm getting
like a crazy Charlie horse in my foot right now.
But anyway, we got to get you on my show to talk
about this. So do you still have dreams like
this? Oh, shit. Sorry. Crazy Charlie horse. Do
I have dreams like this? I don't often have dreams
because I smoke so much weed. I don't think I
or I know that I do stuff in my dreams. I travel,
I go places, I do things. Sometimes I remember
them. But when you when you don't smoke as much,
that's when you remember them more. Yeah. So
that's why I smoke because they're kind of fucked
up. So I don't really want to. But you got to
change it. You got to see it. You got to experience.
But, you know, I just have so much. going on
in my like waking life too that it's almost like
too much and I really truly believe that like
everything will happen in timing everything will
it's like it's okay uh because I also consciously
do work to like disconnect from that version
of myself that I've just recently identified
but like I didn't go looking for this and I don't
think it's common but you know people have I
have worked with people specifically for this.
Like Amy, Amy, for example, said, yeah, your
consciousness is in two different places. Like
this is not a past life. Like it's you in two
places, but like you're not not necessarily in
another dimension. Like it's still this dimension.
It's just it's like parallel. Well, yeah, it's
it's like the other side of the moon kind of
shit. You know, it's fun. So how do you um? What
are the things you have done to strengthen the
ways that you can tap into your like intuitive
abilities and stuff like that and be more aligned
to your channel um That by located consciousness
aside because that's not what I you know, that's
new No, it's not new my awareness of it is new
and my working on that is new So separate from
that what I do to tune my channel because that's
me. This is just a copy that's still tied to
me, like, you know, in my nervous system, essentially,
but not like consciously. So I don't count that.
But how I tune myself really is like coming to
my heart. It's very easy for me. I feel very
fortunate to have this like endless well of hope.
It's like built in. It's not even like a choice
for me. It's It just happens like automatically.
If I like, for example, when I saw these horrible
disclosure things that came in after I had that
experience, which I don't remember everything
because it was so much at once, but like I felt
that in my body and that's like, you know, it's
in there, but I blocked some things too. So I'm
trying to like open that up. That was four years
ago and I'm still trying to like unravel it.
But yeah, I just. asking questions and taking
my time and like integrating emotional letting
letting my emotions out and I just like trust
myself so hard the hardest thing for me to do
for the longest time was to just like accept
that when I receive that information I'm not
wrong like just say the thing yeah I think that
was the biggest thing that like, uh, stopped
me in the program and me and Amy discussed it
on the episode. She said she got into tarot because
she was like, I'm not even sure if I could, if
I'm going to be doing readings for people and
they're going to be accurate. And I told her
that's where I'm at right now, which is why I
read tarot. And another reason why I read tarot
is because, you know, I'm into symbolism and
stuff like that. And I can inherently understand
a lot of it. But, um, but yeah. I'm glad that
you said that because when I was going through
the Akashic reading records program, the first
thing you have to do is drop into your heart
space. And then when you start talking about,
you know, compassion and unconditional love and
stuff like that's like the energy of the chakra.
Literally, you have to have that to get to that
frequency. Like you must. Yeah. It's a requirement.
Yeah. Yeah, and it's part of like releasing the
ego because you have to tell the difference between,
you know, there's this information that I'm receiving
part of my ego or is it something that's coming
from a channel that I'm tuned to, you know what
I mean? And the funny thing about that though
is humanity is forced to enter the heart chakra
and balance that. So I think that's the reason
why everyone will eventually have these abilities
when the spiritual awakening happens because
that's our natural evolution is to go back into
the heart. and understand not only gratitude,
but unconditional love and compassion and everything
that's associated with the heart chakra. You
know what I mean? Yeah. It's a vortex. Yeah.
Yes, it is. Yeah. It's funny. I thought they
used to say it was a pump, huh? Your heart pumps,
they say. Yeah. I guess it does pump, but it's
a vortex. It's not a pump. I think they recently
discovered that or they've known it and they
just marketed it. from, I have no idea. Like
it's so interesting. Fact versus what we're taught.
Like the actual facts of what happened versus
what they teach you. Even like things about things
they do teach you, like the Trail of Tears. That's
in history books and schools all over America.
They don't say all of it though. They don't talk
about the straight facts of what happened. Like
they just hover the migration portion. They don't
say, oh, they intentionally handed them blankets
that were infected to kill them and forced them
to walk on foot with no resources. And like,
what the fuck? Comedian that you left that out,
isn't it? You know, exactly. Oh, my gosh. But
yeah, it's it's been difficult for me because
of that heart space awareness for the longest
time. I just I was just open, so open. that's
also vulnerable. But over time, like I realized
that that's like your superpower. It's really
important to always be able to like have compassion,
even if someone hurt you like to understand.
That like to separate yourself from it and be
like they didn't do that to me like it's not
personal like they did that They're dance. It's
not me. That's that's like let that go Yeah,
that's why one of my favorite books is the four
agreements because one of the agreements is don't
take anything personal and once you realize that
anything it could be the most personal thing
to you to be like You know you suck at what you
do. You're ugly. You're funky and you can you
can say anything about me that You know, I'm
pretty sure that could hurt me. You know what
I mean? But at the end of the day, it's not because
of me. It's whatever happened to you and your
whole timeline of your life brought you to the
moment where you felt like you needed to hurt
me. So that just has everything to do with you.
So once I understood that you don't have to take
anything personal, it was much more easier to
navigate. You know what I mean? Yeah, absolutely.
You're making me think of this. there was a random
person on Facebook. I don't even go on Facebook
much. I'm more on like Instagram. I just feel
like there's a division. Like there's like sort
of a delineation between like, uh, I don't know.
Facebook's too much for me, but too much like
fake AI stuff. Like it's like way too, it's like,
uh, anyway, but, uh, someone sent me a message
on my business page and they just said, heal
my trauma. Like not like, hello, how are you?
How can I get in touch with you? Even though
I have all my links up every, you know, they
send me a message, heal my trauma. So I like
something happened. I like don't even think I
responded because I was going to explain like
I don't heal your trauma for you. Like I can
work with you to support you in your journey.
Like but I was going to like type something out
but something whatever was going on. I couldn't
open it. I didn't do it. Also that rubbed me
the wrong way. So I just didn't prioritize responding.
And then he started to write like a bunch more
messages because I didn't respond. He's like
he's like fuck you this is fake bullshit like
you know popped off at me and then I was like
I said you know everything that you have said
here like he sent like four to six messages and
I didn't say anything and I was like everything
that you said here is just a reflection of you
like this is only you in this conversation like
read that back and he he then he started to criticize
me and said I look like a tranny and he's like
nice eyebrows and I was like wait a minute so
I think that you were like drawn to me on like
a sexual level and I didn't respond or reciprocate
and you wanted to have some type of connection
that it was like not aligned with what I'm doing
and then because i didn't respond like it triggered
the shit out of him and then he attacked how
i look which i've never in my life heard that
before uh that's a new one yeah i was like uh
you know again this is a reflection of you and
what does that say that you wanted that type
of connection and you now say that i look like
a tranny so like that isn't that interesting
do you think maybe that's something that you're
repressing and then he just blocked me and deleted
all the comments. Like it's so funny. Oh my I'm
just so I'm just I was trying to help you know
your trauma bro. Yeah you ended up helping him
you ended up hey let's stare into these wounds
you got you know. It's so but see at a certain
point in my life I would have been like hurt
by that. Yeah yeah yeah. But it's so much easier
to see like people really oh the majority of
people are so unaware of their conscious projection
like their unconscious projections on to other
people and like oh we need to be aware and take
heed when we ask for advice or when we're sharing
something and someone offers unsolicited advice
and it's like oh I want to move to Australia
wouldn't it be fun to live in Japan like fucking
do something you know something different just
because that person wouldn't do it or thinks
that it's crazy or it's a lot or too much or
not possible And then they start telling you
how it's crazy or too much or not possible. And
you're like, that's all your thoughts. That's
all your... It also goes to show you how much
detachment is important. You know what I mean?
If you're detached from the things that are happening
to you on this plane, I think that's why meditation
is so important because it teaches detachment.
It teaches you that you're not your thoughts.
You're not the things that happen to you. You're
this spirit that's having this human experience.
And once you can detach yourself from that, you
won't be as hurt by somebody who's just gunning
for you. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
I was thinking earlier, too. I appreciate that
you are a musician and you like rap. I also love
rap. I have like my whole life. Big Punz is probably
my favorite rapper. Ah, I love Big Punz. Yeah,
right? So it's just, it's interesting. When I
had my spiritual awakening, I also was listening
to a lot of music because I receive a lot of
information that way. Not only the words, but
the the emotions and the thoughts that then I
connect. But sometimes the word sometimes. And
after that experience, I think I had a Kundalini
awakening as well. That was it was it was like
all of it. So I was there like the synchronous
age. Synchronicities were. Beyond comprehension,
like, I mean, literally, like I got to the point
where I was like, I don't know what's. real a
little bit. I had a good probably seven days
of synchronicities from when I heard Tinfoil
Hat podcast with Sean Bupri where he talked about
taking mushrooms and talking to Thoth from ancient
Egypt. And then I started studying that. And
then for the next seven days, I had all these
synchronicities, which led up to my Kundalini
awakening. Which I felt like, yeah, I had like
an omnipresence. I think if you listen to the
episode with Amy, I explained it on there. But
yeah, I just felt like I was everything everywhere
all at once. And I'm just like in this meditation
pose that my body does involuntarily where I'm
just like, I felt like I was having a stroke.
You know what I mean? I felt like the walls of
reality were breaking down around me. And I was
just like, oh shit, like I need to go lay down
somewhere. So I went in my bathroom. There was
like a little towel on the floor. I'm just gonna
lay down until I feel better. And I just automatically,
oh. And then the pose I'm in, I can see a silhouette
of like, it's the common one you see of the Buddha.
It's not the fat Buddha, but the skinny Buddha.
And it was like a black. Silhouette and then
from it were emanating alternating black and
white lines So it looked kind of psychedelic
and I'm like, oh and then like it was basically
telling me like it I was the frequency of like
oh of enlightenment in that moment and I was
like I got it I got everything in that moment
and then when I started to come down from that
I'm like, oh shit like life's a trip and then
like you feel like you receive like all the information
of the universe, but then the veil of forgetfulness
and spiritual amnesia kind of takes it away.
But you kind of retain some of it. You know what
I mean? Yeah. You have to keep remembering, keep
experiencing. For me, it's been four years and
I'm still going over the same shit because it's
constant. It's constant work. And yeah, you do
integrate it. You do. It is in you. It lives
in your body and trusting your body like you
did. Making the sounds. Yeah, that's awesome.
I'm so glad that you trusted yourself and let
that be expressed. Yeah. Yeah. And, um, and it
was funny too, because at that time I was at
a very, I just had how to, how to just darken
out of the soul. I think one or two years earlier,
my, uh, my ex -girlfriend had broken up with
me and I was just going through like this whole
thing you know what I mean and the funny thing
was I was just like you know what like I think
everything's cool like I'm gonna just stop doing
music I'm gonna just save my money try to get
a house and just try to do things like you know
like a different way you know what I mean and
then I ended up getting this It was like an inheritance
of like these bonds that my grandpa had bought
me, like when I was like five years old or something
like that. And it was enough money to like put
in my retirement account and then like invest
in a little bit of stuff. And then I was like,
okay, like let me start to do music again. And
I did like this six song EP about like my dark
night of the soul, like how like I was like,
you know, how my girl left me. And then I had
to go through like this spiritual transformation.
And then I went through all that. And then just
like when all that was happening, it was just
like when all that. when my spiritual awakening
happened. And then all the stuff that I kind
of had known before, just from researching all
of it, like, you know, like we are all one and
stuff like that. Like time isn't linear. Like
I had already known these concepts and believed
them before. But then once you go through that
experience, like you kind of like, you kind of
know that information on like a deeper level.
It locks in. It locks in physically. Yes. It's
no longer a thought. It's a feeling. And that
is a different level of recognition. for sure.
I totally agree. It's so funny. I love, like
I said, I love rap. I listen to lo -fi now because
something that I also discovered is I like real
rap. I like conscious rap. I like like Common,
like The Roots and Mick Jenkins. I could say
a million. Mac Miller, he's my favorite. But
I don't like mumble rap. I don't like I'll kill
your bitch and sell drugs. I don't want to hear
shit like that. I don't like to hear negative
things because I'm very empathic and I just don't
need that in my field. I also don't like to hear
the N -word repeatedly. That's, you know, I don't
love that. So I listen to lo -fi a lot. I just
love the beats. And it reminds me of when I was
little, I was probably like eight, eight to 10.
And I used to fall asleep every night to smooth
jazz. Oh, no way. I love falling asleep to lo
-fi beats. It's so cool. Yeah, same. Yeah, or
like the frequency, you know, music or lo -fi
for sleep. Yeah, I do that. It's good for studying
too, studying or like when you're working, because
like sometimes when I'm working and I listen
to a song that I know and I'm like writing something
down, I'm like, okay, I can't focus on listening
to these lyrics and writing this down. So a hundred
percent. But yeah, I feel that a hundred percent
because I feel like the more in tune I'm getting
with my spirit, the less I am resonating with
even some of the songs I worked out to before.
You know what I mean? I'm just like, you know
what, let me fucking put it on some earth, wind
and fire or something like that. That could get,
you know what I mean? It's just like you said,
like it's, it's the language and it's the being
empathetic and being clairvoyant and really feeling
not only what the music is saying, but even the
emotion that was happening at the time the song
was recorded. You know what I mean? And the intentional
because of the music industry and the infiltration
of all of the darkness everywhere in the world,
not to say in a discouraging way. I mean, just
honestly. And so it's up to us to make these
choices to not allow it to come into our fields
if we feel called to separate from it. But yeah,
basically anything that's on the radio, I'm pretty
sure it's loaded up with sigils. I don't want
to hear that shit. Yeah, I think that Taylor
Swift is Zena Lave. I don't want to hear her
shit. I think that people are it's really, really
wild out there. You know, the funny thing is
The veil is lifting right now. I believe there's
a spiritual awakening going on and a lot of these
artists that have spells in their music, they're
not, they're not, they don't have their, uh,
their stronghold on the masses anymore. And the
funny thing about that is, uh, Taylor Swift just
released an album recently and everybody is like,
even her fans are like, this is so ass and everybody
else is like, I've hated Taylor Swift for the
longest, like, and you guys are barely catching
up. You know what I mean? But I, I think it has
something to do with the magic that they put
into the music in order to sell it to the masses,
you know what I mean? And, and there's a lot
of systems that are falling right now. And I
was going to ask you about the whole conspiracy
thing because, you know, Trump's trying to avoid
releasing the Epstein files. And he's like, all
right, we're going to read the alien files now.
And it kind of all seems like a look at this
hand. So you don't look at this hand, but yeah,
I was, I was asking my buddies on the podcast
this weekend, like You know, do you think that
this is all part of the spiritual awakening,
the revelations in the political and the Jeffrey
Epstein scandal, as well as us getting disclosure
with the alien thing? Like, this is all kind
of coming to a head. Like, you know, right when
2026 was going to happen. I don't know if you
know about the Chris Bledsoe story about how
how he met, you know, the lady and had his experience
and all that stuff. Yeah, that's, you know, the
star of Regulus is supposed to be over the Sphinx
on Easter. And that's going to be like next month,
I think, like that. Wow. It's just like so many
things are happening in this concentrated amount.
I just wanted to ask you do you think all the
things that are happening in a conspiracy world
are coinciding with the spiritual awakening?
Yes, I think that it's necessary disclosure,
but I also think that it is intentionally sensationalized
and restricted and manipulated and then suddenly
dumped on us to overwhelm us to and the distractions
and the so it's like a For me, I like to hear
I like to be open to hear anything like I remember
years and years ago I was watching this show
and it was like trying to say that Sasquatch
is indigenous and that we are aliens and That
we are like a breed like a mixture of like and
so I'm listening to this and I'm like fucking
maybe could be Anything I'll think about anything
like I'm not closed off to that but That doesn't
mean I like adopt it into like, you know, this
is the way it is. Well, it even goes back to
like, you know, it changes. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
It even goes back to like Egyptian mythology,
Greek mythology or like Mesopotamian mythology
and stuff like that. I was like, OK, is this
really mythology? You know what I mean? I think
it's real. Yeah, exactly. I think it was real
on some level. I think it must have been real
on a higher dimensional level, which is why there's
so many, there's so many parallels to all the,
you know, most of these religions have like a
12, 12 God pantheon and stuff like that. And
that correlates like, you know, the 12 constellations
and stuff like that. And you see all these different
syncretistic, you know, similarities in all these
different places. And me and Amy talked about
it and it could be that, you know, that all everything
is true. As opposed to just wanting being true.
Oh, that is I think that is the truth. Everything
is the truth and we by our Perspectives and our
framework of what we're able to like intellectualize
and imagine and put energy into it's all different
Like the multiverse is real. That's what it is.
Yeah, it's not one way and there are many different
realities even in one person's existence, but
Like for example, I feel like I'm pretty multi
-dimensional. Like you might see me, meet me.
If I'm not talking about this spirituality stuff
with anyone, I'm just like out there. You wouldn't
know like what I do for work. You wouldn't know
what I've done in my life. You wouldn't know
that I have subs in my trunk. You wouldn't think
that. Like, but like, you know, and it's like,
you didn't, you don't know that I spoke joints
and like, you know, you just, you would think,
oh, she's a mom. Oh, she's a white suburban woman
like we can classify things or we can like allow
for The multi -dimensionality that each one of
us holds in ourselves But we have to be able
to like apply that to other people and like understand
like like for example Deepak Chopra Yes people
listening to what he had to say and what he had
to say wasn't necessarily bad But what you know
now we're understanding he's not He's not just
over here. Like we thought he was he's been in
over here. Well, does that change what he said
all those years? I don't know does it like Reiki
was channeled by given to us by an entity So
when you're engaging in Reiki and you're doing
those symbols You know that you're working you're
making a contract with an entity to exchange
energy to move energy into that's a good or bad
depends how you look at it, you know, um It just
is Nothing is good or bad. That's what I've really
learned. It's now there's a line though, because
like the shit that we're talking about, like
the elites and all that shit, that is bad. That
is wrong. That must end. That's where we're coming
into a new, because this arc, I call it an archontic
energy. That's what I believe it to be. Like
as a priestess in Lemuria, I know that like lifetime
after lifetime, that's where it started was that
energy coming in and basically like the degradation
of women. children murdering men and like just
totally inverting our energy for to fuel their
fuel their stronghold in this physical reality
because they were coming up from a lower frequency
and they had to lower us to be able to integrate
and it's oh just like parasites earlier today
i'm chewing on my own teeth i was like you know
like grinding my teeth and I was like, do I have
fucking parasites? I like started taking parasite
cleanse, ate some papaya seeds. I'm like, why
am I, you know, but there's so much energy going
on right now. I don't even, I'm not even like
aware all the time of the astrological transits
or I didn't look into any of the UFO stuff that
was released by the government because I have
my own like, I can see them sometimes. Like in
the sky, you know what I mean? Like the, I've
seen some astral bodies in the sky that things
moving that they don't move things don't move
that way that like light that can just go all
over the place and like flash and disappear and
change colors like that's not anything that we
know of so I've already had my Opportunity to
believe that that's real and I wholeheartedly
do I'm not afraid of anything because I think
when you're you can be centered in your heart
and like we were talking about the realities
are all different. It's how you perceive it.
It's what you make it. I really believe that.
Yeah. I mean, especially as someone, you know,
who's, you know, literally jumped timelines before,
you know what I mean? Yeah, that was, I didn't
even know that that is what happened. When it
happened, I thought that I was put into a simulation,
especially because when I looked up, I saw that
screen and I was like, what is, and the guy that
I was with was like sitting on a couch and he
was like laughing. He was like watching. And
then he kept looking up and talking. He would
look up and then respond to me. And I was like,
you aren't who I think you are. I don't know
who you are. You're not who I think you are.
But at the same time, I wasn't really... Yeah,
it was scary, but I wasn't afraid because when
it was happening, I wasn't thinking, oh no. I'm
scared I can't fight because at the same time
I realized how powerful I was by having that
for me it's very easy and I don't mean to say
that in like a Blase way of like I'm just so
good about going back into my heart and being
loved I don't mean it to sound like that because
I can also be very angry and It's like sacred
rage. I would say it's I'm not angry about like
stupid stuff like traffic I'm just jamming out.
I'm having a good time. I never get mad at people
unless they're like straight up reckless, like
really reckless. But yeah, no, I don't get upset
in the traffic or anything like that anymore.
And it's such a freeing attitude. And I'm so
glad for that experience actually, because it
like fractured my reality and allowed that expanded
awareness to come in. Yeah. Yeah, it makes things
so much better when you have, uh, when you're
able to, uh, not let things get, get you angry
as much. You know what I mean? Yeah. Well that
it's, I think it's because I realized that that's
what they eat for breakfast. Yeah. So don't feed
them breakfast. Cause the more you go in that
direction, it's like, uh, it's like snowball
effect. You know what I mean? Like, why am I
even getting me even angry here? You know? We
gotta get you on our show to talk about all this
stuff. That would be fun. So the thing about
me is I don't have like a lot of knowledge, I
don't do a lot of research, but I have some experiences
and I have some understandings of my own. So
I might not use the right language. Like sometimes
people, I talk with people and they might have
a word for something like we were talking, I
was talking months ago to somebody that I ran
into that I knew for years and he's very... well
educated, not through a school system, but on
his own. He's highly intelligent, the things
that he found interesting and what he focused
on. So I think he's cool. And we were talking
about something and I was essentially talking
about like our contact energy, the parasitic,
demonic, not horrible shit that like elite stuff.
And he was describing like Gaza and Israel and
Zionists. I'm like, what's a Zionist? But we're
talking about the same people. Yeah, but like
I don't have the language, you know, I mean like
and so but it's it's through talking things get
understood and then once you hear a word like
that because I was like, what does that mean?
Then I look it up and I'm like, oh, okay. I mean,
we're essentially we're talking about the same
thing, but Yeah I keep bringing up like really
scary negative shit. I'm sorry It's probably
the it's probably the nature of talking to us
before me because you know outside minds We do
conspiracy and all that stuff, but I think it
all intersects I try to have conspiracy episodes
and I try not do too many of those and I try
to switch it over psychedelics and then spirituality
and I try to You know jump around a little bit
so that it's not all doom and gloom and stuff
like yes totally well one thing I forgot to say
earlier when you were talking about a psychedelic
experience and then your Kundalini experience
and the different things. Were you on psychedelics
when that happened or it was just Kundalini?
Well, I was just I was smoking weed. Oh, yeah.
At that point at the time, because I've had very
psychedelic experiences from smoking weed. There
was one time where I had a very negative experience,
but that was after like three months of not smoking.
But at the time I had my Kundalini awakening,
I was smoking in the garage. But at that point,
I had been smoking every day for like probably
like, you know. 15 20 years. Yeah But didn't
but it hit you all crazy That's what happened
to me because I wouldn't smoke like a joint or
two a day and not really be affected I was highly
functioning. I was like running a landscaping
business managing my family like doing a bunch
of stuff So I'm like able to do what needs to
be done But then when that experience happened,
I if I took one hit of weed I'd be like out of
my mind high And I think it was like a frequency
change and that happens like, you know So it
doesn't matter like you're tolerant sometimes
because when the stars align like I think there
was an eclipse going on I had the kundalini awakening
that like experience had like it was insane,
but um, I Hope I hope that kind of I hope that
level of experience never happens again to me.
That was enough one was enough But I never had
a psychedelic experience prior to that. I did
mushrooms once in high school, maybe like half
a gram or less. And I stayed in my friend's bedroom
all night alone. And I listened to Bob Marley.
It was a beautiful experience. I just chilled.
I didn't trip really. It was only half a gram.
But then after I had that Kundalini experience,
I did do mushrooms with a friend. And I similarly
saw black and white. It was like, I looked up
and it was like a big moon. I felt like I was
in a courthouse, like I was being judged. And
I looked up and it was like a circle in the sky,
half black, half white. And I heard like, it
sounded like kind of like Charlie Brown's teacher.
And then I'm like, I felt like my hands were
behind my back and I couldn't speak. And I was
like, Being judged it was so weird and then I
like looked up and I started to really strain
to hear and I heard what do we have here and
then I Felt like I couldn't talk So here's what
I want to say When I had this psychedelic experience,
I was with a friend. We were out by the fire
and then I passed out and this is what happened
when I passed out and I couldn't speak, but I
tried very hard with my heart. Cause again, it's
so it just automatic. It comes out of there.
So I was like, I don't have to use words. I can
just, uh, and so I was like, I only want good
things. Like I tried really hard to just be like,
I only want good, like in the, in the world.
And, um, then I was like, woke up, threw up immediately,
which I think was purging because I was like,
I, I want the light, I want good things. I only
want to be good. And then it was crazy. But again,
I didn't do that many, probably half a gram.
That's like a normal low there. You shouldn't
really necessarily hallucinate on that much,
right? No, no, no, no. No, it's more of a connection.
Yeah. Like you said, you were probably like super
aligned and yeah, you probably just like, you
probably super aligned to the channel at that
moment. You know what I mean? Plus a little bit,
the shrooms probably helped a little bit, you
know? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. With friends being
by the fire, being in nature. I'm pretty sure
those were all factors that contributed to that
happening. Yeah. Yeah. It was really cool. And
now I think about it. I think it was Melano.
Do you know who Melano is? No. The daughter of
Persephone. So Hades and Persephone's daughter.
And she's half black, half white. Like, I mean,
like split, like half her body's black, half
her body's white. And she's both she represents
the duality of like the underworld and also like
the plan after and before and You know, she's
connected to both of them and I find that so
beautiful that that the capacity but she does
have like a Responsibility in that realm of the
underworld and that shadow excavation. It was
very interesting It was a younger girl's voice
that I heard now. What do we have here? It was
very interesting Yeah. And then I woke up to
my friend being like, Christy, Christy, wake
up, wake up. And I was just like, oh, and then
threw up and I was just like, holy shit. I'm
actually fine though. Like I feel great, but
that was so weird. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But then
after that, you know, just small dabbles with
microdosing. And then I've also participated
in, I think four plant medicine journeys, but
like, in ceremony, like I've traveled to go sit
in circle with a very intentional plant medicine
facilitator and to do work. So it wasn't just
like, you know, back alley bullshit. Yeah. That's
interesting. I'm kind of scared to do that, but
you know, who knows? Maybe I'll try it one day.
Is there anything you want to ask me before I
sign out? Cause I do got to go. Yes. We can totally
do another episode, too. Yeah, I would love to.
I would love to. After you come on my show, of
course. Can you please share your information?
Where can we find you? Outside Minds podcast.
Okay, so you can find us outside minds podcast
you can find that Instagram tick -tock YouTube
follow us in all those places and then you can
find me personally at steelo free St. Eel oh
free. That's my artist name I have some music
on Spotify if you want to check it out I haven't
really been working on that too much, but go
ahead and check it out. It's cool But yeah, other
than that you that's where you can find me Sorry
to cut you off, but on TikTok and Instagram,
that's where I make most of my videos on esoteric
philosophy, tarot, and then I post clips of the
podcast. So if you guys are interested in the
information that me and Christine have been discussing,
then follow me there, Outside Minds Podcast.
Yes. Thank you so much, Jeremy. I really appreciate
talking with you today. I think this is the beginning
of an awesome communication friendship. I think
so. Absolutely. I'm looking forward to talking
with you again, especially about the more into
conspiracy theories and government programs.
I find it so fascinating. Thank you. I don't
want to ask you anything. I more want to say
along the lines of when we were talking and you
said you're halfway through that program and
you were you're scared to get things wrong or
trust yourself. And that's why you're utilizing
Tarot. I say. This is my cue to go for it. Yeah,
I say stop that I say get started on your class
and trust yourself Yeah, okay. Yeah, you got
there. Yes. It's not it's not Difficult when
you realize how natural it is and how connected
you are inherently and the hardest part is allowing
it for yourself Yeah, trusting yourself, but
it's easier than yeah, it's easier said than
done, but I'm telling you You can do it. Yeah.
Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate that. Absolutely.
Thank you so much, Jeremy. Take care. Absolutely.
We'll talk soon. Bye. Bye. All right. That's
all for this episode, but we will be talking
again. I was a bad host this time and I talked
more about myself than I asked him questions,
but to be fair. I just recently heard his awakening
story in his own words on Amy's podcast. So I
feel like he was trying to get to know me and
my story a little bit and it informed you all
as well, which is a good thing. So it's all in
the right timing, divine timing, but we will
definitely hear from him again on a broad range
of subjects going into the future. So how exciting
to make connections. I love it. I've been in
touch with him back and forth, and he helped
me figure out why I couldn't share any dope -ass
music on my Instagram posts. So look out for
those. They'll be, you know, getting a lot better
now that I can put Mac Miller on. Thank you so
much for that, by the way, Jeremy. Also, I wanted
to leave you with a little bit of his music.
So I'm gonna head out. I'll see you next time.
And the next episode that I have to share with
you will be with Native American shaman, Eagle
Skyfire, a reading that she did for me in January
of 2022, about eight months after I had my timeline
jump. And this is like the first time that I
actually talked about it out loud the way that
I did. So. Hope you look forward to hearing that
I had a wonderful time listening to it as I mentioned
previously and I'll catch you in the next episode
until then take care and If you've been thinking
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it maybe for you For now, enjoy the beautiful
changeover to Spring and this track by Stilo
Free called Light and Shadows. Cause pressure
make diamonds Lay back smoking loud in the silence
It's all love but no trust Why you think I'm
doing too much? Cause pressure make diamonds
Lay back smoking loud in the silence I roll up
and go up While you tripping give me no love
Nowadays you don't gotta mind me In the end I
hope you really find peace I had to set my mind
free I had to let my soul breathe Don't sign
Pisces, heart broke psyche Angels all around
me but demons wanna fight me Feel like I had
to fight myself Know I had to look inside myself
With a predisposition to addiction Through the
negatives I'm still focused on the vision It's
sorta like that first scene you see in Pope Fiction
I see the end but it's really only the beginning
I had to find a way to be grateful For them locked
doors that you made close When doves cry it's
so painful Purple rain is so graceful Cause Prussia
made diamonds Laid back smoking loud in the silence
It's all love, but no trust Why you think I'm
doing too much? Cause Prussia made diamonds Laid
back smoking loud in the silence I roll up, and
go up While you trip, they give me no love I'm
fighting battles Lost between the lights and
the shadows Trying to shoot me down, I'm dodging
all the hammos Left me hangin', I escaped from
the gallows Swim through the ether, blowin' on
a reefer Runnin' like Rev, when he wrapped up
out Adidas It's like my flow is heaven sent My
energy could shift the cards in your tarot deck
Life ain't always what it seemed An alternate
reality, I'm livin' in a dream I got the Stussy
on the T with the 501 jeans Ray -Ban Lokes with
the Air Max 3's Mandela effect Got me livin'
my best, I gotta jump timelines When I'm livin'
in stress and a spliff in my chest It got me
livin' blessed He not a rest