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Hello and welcome to another episode of In My

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Experience with yours truly, Christine DiGinto.

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This podcast is a space where I speak from lived

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experience. The moments that shaped me, challenged

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me, and changed the way that I understand myself

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in the world. The awakenings, the breakdowns,

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the moments that cracked me open, asked me to

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stay present, be embodied, and be honest with

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myself. I share my stories not to persuade or

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define truth for anyone else, but to offer perspective,

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to explore the gray areas we don't often have

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language for, to slow things down and listen

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more closely to what's happening beneath the

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surface. You'll hear solo episodes where I reflect

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on my own initiations, spiritual gifts, and the

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systems that try to define me. and conversations

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with guests who have walked strange, beautiful,

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and sometimes painful paths of their own and

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come back with wisdom to share with us. I invite

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you to take what resonates, leave the rest, and

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trust your own experience as valid. Thank you

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for being here. This is In My Experience. Welcome

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back. I'm Christine Dugento, and today I'm honored

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to be joined by Mandy Hayes. Mandy is a soul

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alignment and spiritual life coach, an artist,

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and mother of three boys. She owns Lemon Sage

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and Lavender, where she works in her devotion

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to helping people remember who they are beneath

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conditioning and old patterns. She weaves together

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tarot and aura readings. energy work like Reiki,

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QHHT, and Akashic style readings, as well as

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massage therapy, as pathways back to our original

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blueprint. In this conversation, Mandy and I

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recognize a lot of familiar language in each

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other. We follow the threads that light up when

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two people start comparing notes on expanded

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perception and lived spiritual experience. Here

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are some of the places we travel together in

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this episode. Lemuria and ancient memory, star

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seeds and soul origins, seeing and sensing auras,

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clairvoyant perception, and bio -location of

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consciousness. As always, listen for whatever

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resonates and let the rest move on by. Let's

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get into it with Mandy. Oh my goodness. Thank

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you everyone for joining us today. I just wanted

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to introduce our guest, Mandy Hayes, a beautiful

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mother of three boys, an artist, a healer, and

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one who walks in her purpose as someone who helps

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others help themselves, which I so appreciate.

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We were just talking a little bit before we pressed

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record, and I am so sad that I didn't have it

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started. What a tremendous ordeal that you have

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been going through just recently and you're carrying.

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It was such grace and gratitude, and I just find

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that unbelievable. I'm going to give you some

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time to introduce yourself, Mandy, and then we

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can get more into our conversation. Oh, for sure.

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Thank you so much. I really appreciate that.

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I'm Mandy. I am the owner of Lemon Sage and Lavender

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in downtown Lapeer. That place is one of my many

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babies where I do tarot readings. They're more

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like auric tarot readings because they like tap

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into your energy field and receive information

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that way first and then go into a tarot reading,

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right? Yeah. QHHT you know reiki sessions massage

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um soul realignment sessions they all kind of

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come to the same conclusion that i found is you

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know finding out who you are who are you like

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beneath all of the the mess and negative programming,

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the repetitive thought patterns beneath all of

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this stuff, like your original divine blueprint,

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right? And so - Amen. Amen. Just so much fun

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because you can go into any of the modalities

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and it's like, I was thinking about this yesterday.

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It's like a path and there's all these different

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branches that you can go off of, but they all

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connect to the same - True. Yes. Yes, absolutely.

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And I 100 % agree in my practice, I have felt

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very drawn to the Akashic records, past life

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regression therapy, and then also while doing

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those two or one holographic matrix repatterning

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is what it has been coined, right? That's what

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we call it. I'm not trained in QHHT, but I've

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considered it because it is the most widely known

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and I adore Dolores Cannon and all of the books

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and transcripts and audio from her sessions.

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It's just absolutely fascinating. I find it endlessly

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entertaining as I've described before this journey

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of discovering ourselves and who we really are

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and what this reality is and what it's powered

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by, which is us and our energy and intention.

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So it's just so incredible. It is that when you

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figure that out, when that like last little spot

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falls into place, because you could hear the

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same thing a million times, but it will be that

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one millionth time where you hear it and it's

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like, Oh my God. Yes. Like I literally do create

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my own reality. Crazy. Yes. When it clicks in,

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it clicks in fast and hard. It's incredible.

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Mandy, I wanted to mention also the book that

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you published. I was so moved by that when you

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shared it with me. I so appreciate having the

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types of conversations we're having here now

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about how important it is to find out who you

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are and what your purpose is and your blueprint

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and your potential and expand on that. As mothers,

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we apply that also to our children and their

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lives and potential. And you wrote a children's

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book expressing, you know, the spiritual aspects

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of life. And I just so appreciate that. Can you

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talk a little bit more about it? Thank you. Yes.

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Oh my goodness. So Oh, love -filled. It was,

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well, it is kind of based off of my oldest son.

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And when he was younger, you know, I was a young

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mom as we were talking about earlier. And, you

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know, his dad was coming from a very wounded

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place. I was coming from a very wounded place.

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The relationship, there was like a deep love

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there, because we were kids, you know, but it

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was covered up by so much drama and heavy stuff.

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So like, I know that even from the very beginning,

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Christopher was absorbing all of this energy,

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just this heavy, dense stuff, right? It sounds

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like a karmic relationship and a karmic incarnation

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of your son to help too. That's what I'm receiving

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very clearly as you speak. I'm seeing a lot right

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now. That's amazing. Oh my goodness. That's so

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funny. He had a very difficult childhood. Of

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course, when he became a teenager in the very

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beginning. It was just like, it was so bad. It

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was so bad. Poor guy. I don't want to speak too

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much on his behalf because, you know, his piece

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is own person. Yeah. But anyways, that was the

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inspiration for the book. And it was crazy because

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I wasn't even planning a children's book. I swear

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you could be doing the dishes. You could be going

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pee. I was in the bathroom at the time. And there

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was just these, this idea popped in my head and

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I'm like, oh, that's cool. Okay. But then I like

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kind of dismissed it, you know, washing my hands.

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Oh, it pops in again. I'm like, I get it. Cool.

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You know? But it wasn't until like I came in

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the living room and I remember sitting down.

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And I like accepted the idea and I'm like, okay,

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we'll dive in here. What's going on? And then

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it was just like sentence after sentence after

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sentence and it was all in rhyme. And I'm like,

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this is the coolest thing that's ever happened

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to me. So that's amazing. Sitting there writing

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it all down and I'm like, this is a freaking

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book. This is a book that is so crazy. So yeah,

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it's been my baby. I know that the message is

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really relevant. for today's society. And yes,

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I just feel like it's really important when parents

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are reading it to their kids or grandparents

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or aunts and uncles. Yes. It's awesome because

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it is also a reminder for us, not just for kids.

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Absolutely. I mean, I know I teared up when I

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was reading it because it's just, I could, I

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was when I read, I can hear that voice in my

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head as well. Think that that's normal. Maybe

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it's not apparently a lot of things that have

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been happening my entire life that I thought

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everyone could do aren't normal so I don't know

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but So I hear this voice and it's like I could

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hear it as if someone were reading it to me as

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a child I was reading it to my daughter as a

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mother and I was reading also from the perspective

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of other people in a different frame of mind.

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And I could see all the illuminated spaces where

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the sparks were coming. And when that happens,

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when you see those little sparks and they're

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so close together, it really helps to create

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the charge where they magnetize and it... expands

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and continue like that's how I see it. And that's

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what I was experiencing when I was reading it.

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So yeah, I love that so much. Yeah. Thank you

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for sharing that with me. Absolutely. Oh, I'm

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excited to see. I don't know, like just to I

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want to say to see what comes of it. However,

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As like my mind is going a million miles a second.

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As I was saying that I was also thinking like,

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okay, well, this is obviously divinely inspired.

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This was something that was. downloaded or, you

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know, whatever word you want to put on it. So

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it would be interesting to see how many people

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it reaches because of that, you know. Oh, absolutely.

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Yes. Yes. It seemed very persistent. It was a

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persistent knowing that came into creation because

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you gave it the space. And I think that's where

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the magic happens for all of us. And it's, it's

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what a blessing it would be if we could all like

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slow down just a little bit. Like you said, like

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you were going pee, then you're washing your

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hands. You're mom, you're busy, you work, you

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do all this stuff. So I understand completely.

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And that happens to me frequently as well. I

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don't get ideas to create things. I get ideas

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to understand things and I get information and

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I'll get like visions. And then sometimes I was

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talking with Amy Belair about this one time and

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I was like, sometimes I'll just be doing the

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dishes. but I'm imagining that I'm in the Amazon

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and I'm grounding and I'm connected with the

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rainforest and I'm breathing with the earth and

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I'm like locked in and I'm like, and tell me

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that I'm not because I see it. It's like double

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vision. Like I'm there and I'm here and she's

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like, you probably are. But you know, that is

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so incredibly beautiful because like, you know,

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I'm a very visual person. I can. see movement

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I can experience touch heat all the things like

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in my mind's eye, you know what I mean? Obviously,

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I mean, but I, for whatever reason, I will daydream

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till the cows come home about the most random,

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not even important things, or stuff that like

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gets me like Yeah. And I've been really, really

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working on that a lot lately, especially since,

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you know, the accident and I've been sitting

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here in bed. Oh, goodness. But I want to practice

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that what you are doing way more and use that

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imagination that, you know, ADHD mind to my advantage.

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Absolutely. That's beautiful. Yes. And I struggle

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sometimes too with the looping and it has been

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coming out. I've been unraveling something that

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I have known about for years, but I have not

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dove into because it's just so, it's very complex,

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but having to do with being biolocated and having

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my consciousness existing in another body that

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is working, but we're connected in space, essentially.

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So a lot of times people have said, you're ungrounded.

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And I'm like. Offended, I'm like offended because

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I'm like, I am Mother Earth herself. I am like

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very calm and rational. And I sit, I walk around

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barefoot outside. I breathe, I sage, I do all

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the things. I don't know why you're saying I'm

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ungrounded, right? I try very hard and I feel

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like I'm a bad girl, like I'm doing something

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wrong. Like, oh, you're ungrounded. Like it's

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like wrong, right? It's not, it's just a, it's

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just a, it's a place. It's a place where your

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consciousness is. But then what I have become

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aware of just recently is sensual embodiment.

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does not necessarily relate to sex as much as

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it does being embodied in your body and experiencing

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your senses fully, all the way in your body.

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So that has been an interesting revelation for

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me. So that's really incredible. I am bi -located

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as well. And so as you're talking, I'm like,

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ooh, I get it. I get it. Because for the longest

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time, like, you know, I meditate, I do yoga,

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I stretch, I do, you know, all of the things.

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But I found that it was eating heavy food and

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drinking like wine or something would put me

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right back in my body. And like, but it was so,

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you know, it's not healthy, obviously. So it's

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a wild like, trying to find that, that one thing

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that's like healthy that can keep you grounded.

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That's more than, you know, I don't know, you

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know, What if it's our thoughts? Like, cause

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I totally understand and agree all the things,

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like I was saying before, I do all the things

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to be grounded. And why is it so difficult or

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unsuccessful? Because it's based on our lightning

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fast connected connectivity with that other version

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of our consciousness being bio located. We're

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going through different dimensions constantly.

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And it's very ungrounding. So like our body,

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we need to rely on our bodies to help us as we

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transmit through those different frequencies.

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But I think that we have more control. And it's

00:17:17.529 --> 00:17:19.630
almost like I'm telling this to myself. I'm just

00:17:19.630 --> 00:17:23.509
realizing this now too. We have more control

00:17:23.509 --> 00:17:27.720
based on our thoughts and our emotions. So when

00:17:27.720 --> 00:17:30.359
we get those loops, sometimes I think it's intentional.

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And I do believe that there is frequency manipulation

00:17:35.160 --> 00:17:38.779
in the sense that it affects the way that you

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think and feel. And I think that that is widespread,

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but it's also specifically directed at people

00:17:46.720 --> 00:17:53.309
who have those known components and are on the

00:17:53.309 --> 00:17:56.890
lists, as you would say, you know, they are targeted.

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Yeah. Yeah. I got you girl. So it's like being

00:18:01.029 --> 00:18:04.329
aware of that and centering in your heart. Like

00:18:04.329 --> 00:18:08.950
our hearts are the key to all of it. It's like

00:18:08.950 --> 00:18:12.029
right in the middle. All of it makes sense. It's

00:18:12.029 --> 00:18:18.069
balanced. It's it's open and it's. If we can

00:18:18.069 --> 00:18:23.579
shift the thoughts to the heart. and feel that

00:18:23.579 --> 00:18:26.960
peace frequency around us. Like we could probably

00:18:26.960 --> 00:18:29.799
glide much more easily and be less affected.

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You know what I mean? It'd be like a membrane.

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Yeah. No, I love that so much. It's funny because

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I feel like it's either something that's changed

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with me in like the practice. um because it's

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like i'm seeing it through my eyes obviously

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um so it's coming through my own filter or if

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something is changing with the collective which

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we know that it is i guess it really doesn't

00:19:00.619 --> 00:19:05.180
matter but um in the last like month or so whenever

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i'm doing a reiki session on someone like at

00:19:07.920 --> 00:19:11.240
the very beginning of the session i stand at

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their star chakra and just kind of look at their

00:19:14.019 --> 00:19:17.599
energy field as a whole what colors are showing

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up, what the movements like, any obstruction,

00:19:20.599 --> 00:19:23.900
you know, blah, blah, blah. And I do it at the

00:19:23.900 --> 00:19:27.440
very end as well. So lately, when I'm looking

00:19:27.440 --> 00:19:30.079
at people's energy fields towards the very end,

00:19:30.779 --> 00:19:37.579
it looks like, like a beautiful, constantly moving

00:19:37.579 --> 00:19:44.200
mandala of different colors. And I've never seen

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that before up until like this past month. So

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I'm just wondering how you were talking about,

00:19:50.980 --> 00:19:57.019
you know, like feeling and seeing from your heart

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and it expanding outward if like we're all starting

00:20:03.339 --> 00:20:05.599
to work from our heart more, you know, do you

00:20:05.599 --> 00:20:09.250
see? we've been blasted by so many solar flares

00:20:09.250 --> 00:20:12.470
we've definitely been upgraded uh recently i

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feel like there was a lot of activity toward

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the end of the year like right yeah you know

00:20:16.930 --> 00:20:19.950
and there's so much going on and there's a lot

00:20:19.950 --> 00:20:27.369
of clearing happening uh yeah it's it's popping

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off very true that's very true um a year 2026

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is going to be you know Like kind of the very

00:20:37.900 --> 00:20:40.619
beginning steps of a whole brand new era So there's

00:20:40.619 --> 00:20:42.920
a lot of change and ship that's gonna be happening

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this year, which is gonna make things crazy,

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but worth it Yeah, 2027 is like the year. I believe

00:20:51.839 --> 00:20:55.079
it. I feel it I feel it in my bones all the way.

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So yeah, it's very nice Mandy would you like

00:21:01.400 --> 00:21:05.630
to talk about? We were talking before I pressed

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record. Would you like to share about what happened

00:21:09.009 --> 00:21:13.890
on Monday or not? Oh Yeah, sure. That's okay.

00:21:15.309 --> 00:21:21.769
Okay So Life is crazy and you never know what's

00:21:21.769 --> 00:21:26.390
gonna happen, right? Yeah So I have three boys

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And Monday I went to work. I went grocery shopping

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I went and picked up my one son from basketball,

00:21:34.470 --> 00:21:36.990
my other two from their grandparents' house.

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My oldest son, he finished driver's training,

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the first one. He's in that in -between stage

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where he has to practice driving and stuff before

00:21:49.609 --> 00:21:55.410
he can take the second class. And so, you know,

00:21:55.490 --> 00:21:58.410
we live in Michigan. It's winter outside, but

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nothing was crazy. He asked to drive and I told

00:22:01.970 --> 00:22:06.730
him, yeah. Well, because I was at work all day,

00:22:06.849 --> 00:22:10.029
I put all of my stuff in the front passenger

00:22:10.029 --> 00:22:13.369
seat. So there are paintings in the front passenger

00:22:13.369 --> 00:22:18.170
seat, my backpack, laptop, a bag of clothes,

00:22:18.170 --> 00:22:23.849
I think, on the floor. I didn't feel like taking

00:22:23.849 --> 00:22:25.849
all of it and throwing it in the backseat with

00:22:25.849 --> 00:22:28.170
my other boys so I just left it there and I sat

00:22:28.170 --> 00:22:30.490
in the backseat. Our house is probably like eight

00:22:30.490 --> 00:22:35.210
minutes away from his grandparents. I never ever

00:22:35.210 --> 00:22:37.829
ever sit in the backseat while Christopher is

00:22:37.829 --> 00:22:40.349
driving just so I can be right there to you know

00:22:40.349 --> 00:22:44.769
help with the wheel or something. But that day

00:22:44.769 --> 00:22:48.750
I did. We got literally two minutes away from

00:22:48.750 --> 00:22:53.309
the house. We were on M15 had to turn left to

00:22:53.309 --> 00:22:56.170
go on to Arvila and then our house was like right

00:22:56.170 --> 00:23:02.009
there. Around M15 I pull out my phone so I could

00:23:02.009 --> 00:23:05.130
I was looking up um signing him up for segment

00:23:05.130 --> 00:23:08.609
two driver's training which is just such like

00:23:08.609 --> 00:23:13.410
a wow kind of thing so I'm looking down at my

00:23:13.410 --> 00:23:18.329
phone looking up the dates I feel the car turning

00:23:18.329 --> 00:23:23.539
and then I hear Christopher say oh my god and

00:23:23.539 --> 00:23:30.740
we got hit the car rolled we are in a Jeep Grand

00:23:30.740 --> 00:23:32.900
Cherokee and they are they are really really

00:23:32.900 --> 00:23:40.940
good for safety features I open up my eyes to

00:23:40.940 --> 00:23:47.299
airbags and smoke and just windows and coats

00:23:47.299 --> 00:23:49.779
everywhere. I couldn't really see. I was the

00:23:49.779 --> 00:23:55.960
only one in the car not wearing a seatbelt. Yeah,

00:23:55.980 --> 00:24:00.079
I saw smoke everywhere and I freaked out. I had

00:24:00.079 --> 00:24:03.900
never been in an accident before. And so I'm

00:24:03.900 --> 00:24:05.640
telling the kids, like I'm calling all their

00:24:05.640 --> 00:24:08.299
names, making sure they're all responding to

00:24:08.299 --> 00:24:12.619
me. I'm like, we got to get out of here and we're

00:24:12.619 --> 00:24:15.900
trying to move. but we're all you know on top

00:24:15.900 --> 00:24:18.920
of each other and there's just windows everywhere

00:24:18.920 --> 00:24:22.440
finally my middle child he kicks the door open

00:24:22.440 --> 00:24:25.460
there's some guys who live down the street that

00:24:25.460 --> 00:24:27.900
were like right there they came running out to

00:24:27.900 --> 00:24:30.920
help us they oh i can't wait till i can like

00:24:30.920 --> 00:24:34.119
move i'm gonna go and give them the biggest dogs

00:24:34.119 --> 00:24:40.410
oh um so my son nicholas got out My six -year

00:24:40.410 --> 00:24:44.490
-old case, he was hanging above me and his seatbelt

00:24:44.490 --> 00:24:49.309
was strapping him to the ceiling. He was crying,

00:24:49.650 --> 00:24:52.109
you know, the guys helped unbuckle him, get him

00:24:52.109 --> 00:24:57.329
out. I had to get pulled out because I couldn't

00:24:57.329 --> 00:25:02.589
move my left leg. And I'm calling for Christopher.

00:25:03.529 --> 00:25:05.650
And I'm calling because I thought that he was

00:25:05.650 --> 00:25:07.829
the first to get out because his voice sounded

00:25:07.829 --> 00:25:15.710
so distant, you know But he was in the car And

00:25:15.710 --> 00:25:19.309
I'm calling for him and thank God he just like

00:25:19.309 --> 00:25:24.109
shimmied out from between the the airbags and

00:25:24.109 --> 00:25:26.809
you know came walking out of the car he was stuck

00:25:26.809 --> 00:25:33.670
in his seat belt too and They all they all We're

00:25:33.670 --> 00:25:36.049
just walking around the car, making sure the

00:25:36.049 --> 00:25:39.589
people in the other car were okay. They were

00:25:39.589 --> 00:25:43.069
totally fine. My youngest, he had some, you know,

00:25:43.250 --> 00:25:45.470
some bruising and redness from the seatbelt.

00:25:45.789 --> 00:25:48.509
So he got checked out and stuff, but he was okay,

00:25:48.609 --> 00:25:53.369
thank God. And yeah, that's just the craziest

00:25:53.369 --> 00:25:58.609
things like the fact that I never sit in the

00:25:58.609 --> 00:26:03.130
back seat and I did that day and the only part

00:26:03.130 --> 00:26:06.509
of the Jeep that got hit was the passenger door.

00:26:07.569 --> 00:26:12.289
And like Nicholas, he got whipped around a lot.

00:26:12.630 --> 00:26:17.210
If I wasn't sitting on the outside in the back

00:26:17.210 --> 00:26:20.789
behind the passenger seat, he would have knocked

00:26:20.789 --> 00:26:23.970
his head right on the glass, because me and him

00:26:23.970 --> 00:26:27.269
smashed heads. So that's how I knew he was coming

00:26:27.269 --> 00:26:29.369
in this direction. I was going in that direction.

00:26:30.329 --> 00:26:38.089
Just so many things. I've had a really tough

00:26:38.089 --> 00:26:42.269
lesson the last few months about learning how

00:26:42.269 --> 00:26:47.650
to surrender and let go emotionally with so many

00:26:47.650 --> 00:26:52.200
things. So many things that was like the takeaway

00:26:52.200 --> 00:26:56.660
from all of that craziness and Now I feel for

00:26:56.660 --> 00:26:59.779
me because I'm such a go -go -go Got to do this

00:26:59.779 --> 00:27:04.480
got to fix this 26 in the fire at once This is

00:27:04.480 --> 00:27:06.539
like a physical surrender because I literally

00:27:06.539 --> 00:27:11.140
Know it's like, you know, can't really do anything

00:27:11.140 --> 00:27:16.720
right now. So just healing And what were your

00:27:16.720 --> 00:27:19.140
injuries? I want to hear them again so I can

00:27:19.140 --> 00:27:22.019
envision them and send extra healing. Oh, thank

00:27:22.019 --> 00:27:28.599
you. Yes. I have some bruised ribs, three fractures

00:27:28.599 --> 00:27:33.480
on my pelvis and a broken sacrum on my left side.

00:27:34.180 --> 00:27:37.200
Yeah. Dang. Well, we will all be sending you

00:27:37.200 --> 00:27:40.980
lots of healing to recover very quickly. Thank

00:27:40.980 --> 00:27:44.960
you. Yes. I appreciate that. I'm so sorry that

00:27:44.960 --> 00:27:47.500
happened, but I know we were talking earlier

00:27:47.500 --> 00:27:51.099
and it's so sometimes strange to, to word it

00:27:51.099 --> 00:27:53.660
this way, but I'm getting better at it because

00:27:53.660 --> 00:27:55.859
everyone always understands after it comes out

00:27:55.859 --> 00:27:58.579
of my mouth. But when I'm getting ready for it,

00:27:58.579 --> 00:28:01.079
it's like, Oh, well, I'm glad that happened that

00:28:01.079 --> 00:28:04.599
way about your accident. And it's like, no, I

00:28:04.599 --> 00:28:08.500
mean, like ideal situation, the ideal conditions

00:28:08.500 --> 00:28:11.619
happened. And I, we were joking a little bit

00:28:11.619 --> 00:28:14.660
with Mandy and I both agreed. I'm like, unfortunately,

00:28:14.859 --> 00:28:17.480
like if someone was going to hurt, get hurt,

00:28:17.480 --> 00:28:20.259
I know that you would want it to be you rather

00:28:20.259 --> 00:28:22.700
than any of your children. So in that case as

00:28:22.700 --> 00:28:25.279
well, it's like best scenario, but like, we don't

00:28:25.279 --> 00:28:28.380
want that in the first place, but you know, it

00:28:28.380 --> 00:28:31.339
was going to happen. It's any day of the week.

00:28:31.599 --> 00:28:38.940
Right. It's, I find it amazing. And uh, I've

00:28:38.940 --> 00:28:40.859
been struggling to find the words right now,

00:28:40.960 --> 00:28:44.079
but the way that I feel when it's like you're

00:28:44.079 --> 00:28:46.640
receiving bad news, but you still are able to

00:28:46.640 --> 00:28:49.380
be like, well, I'm glad that that at least was

00:28:49.380 --> 00:28:51.220
safe. And like this, like you're hearing like

00:28:51.220 --> 00:28:52.480
all the bad things you're like, but that's a

00:28:52.480 --> 00:28:55.019
good thing. Good thing. Okay. There's a good

00:28:55.019 --> 00:28:57.039
thing. All right. Overall, I'm so sorry this

00:28:57.039 --> 00:28:59.500
happened, but overall all the good things happened

00:28:59.500 --> 00:29:02.000
that could have been. So I'm just so thankful

00:29:02.000 --> 00:29:04.180
for that. I'm glad that you're all safe and alive.

00:29:04.680 --> 00:29:07.720
And yes, thank you for sharing that as well.

00:29:08.460 --> 00:29:11.339
Yeah, thank you for listening and being here

00:29:11.339 --> 00:29:16.099
and being your awesome self. Oh, thank you. You're

00:29:16.099 --> 00:29:21.000
welcome. Oh, it's really crazy. Have you ever

00:29:21.000 --> 00:29:28.700
seen the movie The Cabin? Who's in it? I don't

00:29:28.700 --> 00:29:35.619
think so. You, or no, The Shack. It's the cabin

00:29:35.619 --> 00:29:37.740
or the shack. I don't remember but whatever I'll

00:29:37.740 --> 00:29:39.480
find it and then I'll like send it to you through

00:29:39.480 --> 00:29:42.980
email or something. It's incredible and I'm not

00:29:42.980 --> 00:29:47.240
gonna give away the um like the ending or whatever

00:29:47.240 --> 00:29:51.519
but in it this guy he he loses his daughter.

00:29:51.640 --> 00:29:56.039
She dies in a very really sad way and so he's

00:29:56.039 --> 00:29:59.859
angry with God. He is so angry with God and he

00:29:59.859 --> 00:30:03.400
goes to this cabin to like essentially to kill

00:30:03.400 --> 00:30:08.539
himself. But I just got chills in my legs. It

00:30:08.539 --> 00:30:12.859
doesn't happen. He ends up meeting God. And you

00:30:12.859 --> 00:30:15.680
know, it's one of the best movies ever. But the

00:30:15.680 --> 00:30:18.980
point of me bringing this up was that he was

00:30:18.980 --> 00:30:22.460
like, why, why would you let this happen to me?

00:30:22.819 --> 00:30:26.200
Why would you take away such a beautiful little

00:30:26.200 --> 00:30:29.220
tiny light in the world? You know, she was loved

00:30:29.220 --> 00:30:32.140
so much and my life is ruined and blah, blah,

00:30:32.200 --> 00:30:40.289
blah. And God said, I didn't do that. I helped

00:30:40.289 --> 00:30:45.349
you in this way. I don't create car crashes.

00:30:47.910 --> 00:30:52.430
I do interventions to make sure that no one gets

00:30:52.430 --> 00:30:55.630
hurt. I don't cause the bad thing. I do what

00:30:55.630 --> 00:30:58.769
I can to make the bad thing better. So when you

00:30:58.769 --> 00:31:01.349
were just talking about that, that's just...

00:31:01.069 --> 00:31:04.369
That's what that reminded me of. Yeah, I think

00:31:04.369 --> 00:31:08.269
that's so true. Also, it's like. Computers are

00:31:08.269 --> 00:31:11.109
accurate, but I mean, like they're manmade. And

00:31:11.109 --> 00:31:13.630
when you're talking about the universe and like

00:31:13.630 --> 00:31:18.190
literal from chaos to like order from matter

00:31:18.190 --> 00:31:22.029
in the universe that exists. I mean, how things

00:31:22.029 --> 00:31:24.430
work, it's just really wild. Like, how is it

00:31:24.430 --> 00:31:26.950
possible that like other planets get humbled

00:31:26.950 --> 00:31:32.500
by meteorites? uh and we are fairly safe go well

00:31:32.500 --> 00:31:37.400
we have this atmosphere okay okay like that that's

00:31:37.400 --> 00:31:40.240
convenient like it's just it's so it's just funny

00:31:40.240 --> 00:31:42.539
it's just neat to think about things in different

00:31:42.539 --> 00:31:47.400
ways like because i enjoy science um fascinating

00:31:47.400 --> 00:31:52.740
but i also am like yeah but like how like where

00:31:52.740 --> 00:31:56.400
why like what it's just it's just so funny to

00:31:56.400 --> 00:31:59.599
think about all the other ways that things could

00:31:59.599 --> 00:32:03.359
exist. Absolutely, 100%. And you know what's

00:32:03.359 --> 00:32:06.259
crazy? So I've came up with this theory, right?

00:32:06.799 --> 00:32:10.339
And you can tell me what you think about it.

00:32:10.579 --> 00:32:15.900
But how, like, for example, I was listening to

00:32:15.900 --> 00:32:19.880
Sarah Bressman Cosme, her books, right? A Hypnotist's

00:32:19.880 --> 00:32:22.519
Journey to Atlantis and From the Trail to the

00:32:22.519 --> 00:32:26.960
Star People. And in there, when she's talking

00:32:26.960 --> 00:32:29.859
about this particular way that Lumarian culture

00:32:29.859 --> 00:32:33.599
was from, you know, the perspectives of all of

00:32:33.599 --> 00:32:36.880
these different people under hypnosis. Well,

00:32:37.240 --> 00:32:40.180
in one of Dolores Cannon's books, I think it

00:32:40.180 --> 00:32:41.859
was Dolores Cannon, it might have been somebody

00:32:41.859 --> 00:32:46.839
else. But anyways, what they were talking about

00:32:46.839 --> 00:32:50.220
with the Lumarian culture was like, kind of parallel,

00:32:50.259 --> 00:32:53.160
but there were some pretty big differences. And

00:32:53.160 --> 00:32:56.599
so it got me thinking like, Well, they're contradicting

00:32:56.599 --> 00:32:59.279
each other, but these are from people subconscious

00:32:59.279 --> 00:33:02.460
and obviously it's true things because they match

00:33:02.460 --> 00:33:06.200
up with so many other people's. Again, there's

00:33:06.200 --> 00:33:09.279
no way that's a coincidence, right? So I'm thinking

00:33:09.279 --> 00:33:12.980
like, well, what if at that time period, person

00:33:12.980 --> 00:33:16.059
A was on a different timeline than person B.

00:33:16.380 --> 00:33:20.779
So their truth really is the truth to them, because

00:33:20.779 --> 00:33:23.960
that was the life that they had lived. But you

00:33:23.960 --> 00:33:26.559
know, after lifetimes and lifetimes of shifting

00:33:26.559 --> 00:33:29.460
different realities, here we both are. They both

00:33:29.460 --> 00:33:32.319
have different soul perspectives. And it's like

00:33:32.319 --> 00:33:34.980
that, I've seen images before where they're like,

00:33:35.079 --> 00:33:38.039
the truth depends on where you stand. And it's

00:33:38.039 --> 00:33:41.380
like a circle from above, it looks like this.

00:33:41.380 --> 00:33:44.240
And then it's like a spiral. And then from the

00:33:44.240 --> 00:33:46.059
side, it looks like three lines. Like, you know

00:33:46.059 --> 00:33:47.839
what I mean? And it's like every, like the truth

00:33:47.839 --> 00:33:50.420
depends on like how you look at it. Like the,

00:33:50.519 --> 00:33:54.079
what is the truth? The truth. We'll never know.

00:33:54.539 --> 00:34:00.220
But there is a truth that exists that we do know

00:34:00.220 --> 00:34:02.339
and we have always known. We just don't know

00:34:02.339 --> 00:34:05.279
right now. And the part of the fun of being here

00:34:05.279 --> 00:34:10.199
is fucking around and finding out. Yeah. So yeah,

00:34:10.380 --> 00:34:15.800
it's just just imagining and feeling and contemplating

00:34:15.800 --> 00:34:21.380
and existing in. It's just, it's so fun. I love

00:34:21.380 --> 00:34:25.440
life. I just love life. Absolutely. Right there

00:34:25.440 --> 00:34:30.980
with you. It's interesting that you brought up

00:34:30.980 --> 00:34:34.840
Sarah Bressman and Cosme, because I just was,

00:34:34.940 --> 00:34:38.039
I think it was yesterday I saw, and I think I

00:34:38.039 --> 00:34:42.059
may have shared it on my story. Or no, I commented

00:34:42.059 --> 00:34:48.039
on it. It was a recording of one of her sessions

00:34:48.039 --> 00:34:51.079
and the woman was channeling or she was speaking,

00:34:51.079 --> 00:34:54.480
you know from her subconscious and describing

00:34:54.480 --> 00:34:58.800
when Basically Sarah's question was when will

00:34:58.800 --> 00:35:02.260
love reveal the individuals that are like separating

00:35:02.260 --> 00:35:06.260
us from truth? Essentially and she was like as

00:35:06.260 --> 00:35:12.300
soon as people stop judging comparing seeing

00:35:12.300 --> 00:35:20.099
Race sex and age in each other. And when love

00:35:20.099 --> 00:35:24.239
can be given freely and openly without prejudice,

00:35:24.539 --> 00:35:27.139
you know, like it's like, that's when we're all

00:35:27.139 --> 00:35:30.639
going to like, remember and realize like, oh,

00:35:31.159 --> 00:35:34.840
we, we're magic and we're supposed to be here

00:35:34.840 --> 00:35:37.860
to create this beautiful world. And I believe

00:35:38.380 --> 00:35:42.400
Not I believe I know that I was in Lemuria. I

00:35:42.400 --> 00:35:48.460
was one of my first incarnations and I have Become

00:35:48.460 --> 00:35:51.619
aware of different codes that I carry in my blueprint

00:35:51.619 --> 00:35:59.139
from that and I Think that is for a reason So

00:35:59.139 --> 00:36:04.119
I trust Absolutely, and I love that so much.

00:36:04.460 --> 00:36:09.269
It's it's so beautiful because there's At this

00:36:09.269 --> 00:36:12.829
current time in my physical reality, there are

00:36:12.829 --> 00:36:15.250
only like a very small handful of people that

00:36:15.250 --> 00:36:17.429
I can speak to in like the language that you're

00:36:17.429 --> 00:36:21.030
talking right now. And just like, ooh, I love

00:36:21.030 --> 00:36:27.119
it. Yes. Yes. It's funny. We have a lot of similarities

00:36:27.119 --> 00:36:29.800
just in talking before we press record. We were

00:36:29.800 --> 00:36:32.300
talking about we both had children at a young

00:36:32.300 --> 00:36:35.619
age Mandy was 18 when she had her son and I was

00:36:35.619 --> 00:36:38.679
17 when I had my son the different relationship

00:36:38.679 --> 00:36:42.059
with her son's dad and Dynamics very similar

00:36:42.059 --> 00:36:44.719
over here. We're both bio located. We're both

00:36:44.719 --> 00:36:48.159
from Lemuria. I mean obviously we're Together

00:36:48.159 --> 00:36:52.420
for a reason right now. So here we go Amazing

00:36:52.420 --> 00:36:56.510
and so Over the course of like the last two years,

00:36:56.949 --> 00:36:59.530
I've been hearing very often from multiple different

00:36:59.530 --> 00:37:05.429
people that a lot of people who lived in Lumieria

00:37:05.429 --> 00:37:08.269
and Atlantis at the time of its destruction are

00:37:08.269 --> 00:37:11.690
reincarnated here now, along with all of the

00:37:11.690 --> 00:37:16.789
people who were like, you know... Who brought

00:37:16.789 --> 00:37:20.769
it down? The people who brought it down? The

00:37:20.769 --> 00:37:25.550
people who let in the archons. Yeah And and you

00:37:25.550 --> 00:37:28.210
know at the time of I had the time of Jesus I

00:37:28.210 --> 00:37:30.949
always feel really weird when I say it in that

00:37:30.949 --> 00:37:32.829
way, but I don't know any other way to say it

00:37:32.829 --> 00:37:36.190
Yeah, yeah when you know was doing this thing

00:37:36.190 --> 00:37:38.829
a lot of people who are around at that time as

00:37:38.829 --> 00:37:42.190
well are reincarnated here now and it just obviously

00:37:42.190 --> 00:37:48.429
no coincidences, but it's just Wild when you

00:37:48.429 --> 00:37:52.380
have you know, multiple people, but like two

00:37:52.380 --> 00:37:55.320
people who are like on their way to remembering

00:37:55.320 --> 00:37:58.840
and just the conversation is like, oh, yes, but

00:37:58.840 --> 00:38:01.519
wait, oh, there's something. Oh, this is amazing.

00:38:02.199 --> 00:38:04.960
Yeah. Thank you. That's sort of like I was saying

00:38:04.960 --> 00:38:07.619
earlier, those activation points, the sparks

00:38:07.619 --> 00:38:10.219
that we carry, those codes that we all carry

00:38:10.219 --> 00:38:12.500
in our blueprint, in our body, in our aura. And

00:38:12.500 --> 00:38:14.739
then when we are in proximity or in connection

00:38:14.739 --> 00:38:17.570
with each other, they illuminate. They connect

00:38:17.570 --> 00:38:24.090
and then they send it. I love that so much. That's

00:38:24.090 --> 00:38:29.530
so beautiful. I can see it now. So Mandy and

00:38:29.530 --> 00:38:33.590
I were in the same container together, but we

00:38:33.590 --> 00:38:37.550
didn't ever actually talk directly before. I

00:38:37.550 --> 00:38:42.409
mean, I would hear you share and I shared sometimes.

00:38:42.469 --> 00:38:46.860
I usually have my camera off. So ADHD, I cannot

00:38:46.860 --> 00:38:49.280
sit still. And I feel like, well, I sit still

00:38:49.280 --> 00:38:51.280
pretty well for this. Obviously, I'm Italian,

00:38:51.579 --> 00:38:56.199
too. Never seen me use my hand. But yeah, I'm

00:38:56.199 --> 00:38:58.719
all over the place usually when we have classes

00:38:58.719 --> 00:39:01.460
and stuff. But I love to listen and I am absorbing

00:39:01.460 --> 00:39:04.420
it. And I feel like a lot of the time it's best

00:39:04.420 --> 00:39:08.139
for me to like when we would all go into the

00:39:08.139 --> 00:39:10.980
Akashic Records together. I basically didn't

00:39:10.980 --> 00:39:12.820
like I would be driving. I'd be doing whatever.

00:39:13.059 --> 00:39:16.119
But I would be like, connected to the field with

00:39:16.119 --> 00:39:20.440
all of you as well, but not actually like, you

00:39:20.440 --> 00:39:23.579
know, doing anything. But then when later things

00:39:23.579 --> 00:39:25.980
would drop in when it was ready, because I would

00:39:25.980 --> 00:39:29.239
say that's another thing with the downloads that

00:39:29.239 --> 00:39:34.699
we receive. We can ask for them to come later.

00:39:34.860 --> 00:39:38.099
We can say, you know what, I actually am at capacity.

00:39:38.539 --> 00:39:42.900
Please come back at this time because I can't.

00:39:42.920 --> 00:39:48.369
Yeah. Yeah, try that. Be more direct. Yeah. Instead

00:39:48.369 --> 00:39:51.510
of them just being like, receive this. And we're

00:39:51.510 --> 00:39:59.030
like, Oh, yeah, right. I appreciate it, though.

00:39:59.150 --> 00:40:03.010
We still receive it. But yeah, there's countless

00:40:03.010 --> 00:40:07.409
revelations have been lost in the depths of my

00:40:07.409 --> 00:40:16.289
mind while vacuuming. taking a shower. Yes, absolutely.

00:40:17.230 --> 00:40:21.010
Oh, I feel that and oh my goodness it's so life

00:40:21.010 --> 00:40:27.050
is so crazy because sometimes sometimes it's

00:40:27.050 --> 00:40:31.690
like on demand I want to say as you know um like

00:40:31.690 --> 00:40:36.269
for example I remember it was a few years ago

00:40:36.269 --> 00:40:42.230
like so I see like Like static everywhere. Yes

00:40:42.230 --> 00:40:46.570
same Yes, that's one of the things that I was

00:40:46.570 --> 00:40:48.789
thinking about like that I have experienced my

00:40:48.789 --> 00:40:50.929
entire life But I thought everyone did too like

00:40:50.929 --> 00:40:53.469
I didn't know that that was not normal, but it's

00:40:53.469 --> 00:40:56.250
what's that called like snow Vision or what do

00:40:56.250 --> 00:40:59.849
they call that? I didn't know I've been searching

00:40:59.849 --> 00:41:04.889
visual visual snow The only other person I've

00:41:04.889 --> 00:41:08.530
ever heard talk about it as detailed as I understand

00:41:08.530 --> 00:41:15.320
it is um, Dana the alien on Instagram at Dana

00:41:15.320 --> 00:41:18.059
the alien. She's amazing. You would love her,

00:41:18.139 --> 00:41:20.860
follow her. Uh, but she has a video talking about

00:41:20.860 --> 00:41:24.360
that visual snow and that it's actually, uh,

00:41:24.360 --> 00:41:27.539
Claire, Claire clairvoyance. Yeah. Yeah, clairvoyance.

00:41:27.920 --> 00:41:30.519
Okay. So that is incredibly mind blowing. I had

00:41:30.519 --> 00:41:33.960
no freaking idea. And actually it was two years

00:41:33.960 --> 00:41:38.320
ago when I had asked Amy, um, It was like my

00:41:38.320 --> 00:41:41.539
first reading with her ever. And, you know, I'm

00:41:41.539 --> 00:41:43.320
telling her about what I'm experiencing, blah,

00:41:43.380 --> 00:41:45.840
blah, and she's like, well, yeah, it is a clear

00:41:45.840 --> 00:41:48.440
part of clairvoyance. But the whole reason why

00:41:48.440 --> 00:41:51.639
you're experiencing it is because that you are

00:41:51.639 --> 00:41:54.980
by located to the Pleiades. So your spectrum

00:41:54.980 --> 00:41:59.239
of vision is wider than, you know, a lot of other

00:41:59.239 --> 00:42:03.619
people's. Yeah. Oh, my God, I love you. That

00:42:03.619 --> 00:42:07.579
is so cool. But I've been searching my whole

00:42:07.579 --> 00:42:10.239
life for other people who see what I see and

00:42:10.239 --> 00:42:13.920
that's just that is amazing I we're probably

00:42:13.920 --> 00:42:17.420
soul sisters. I feel I feel it. It's so fun I

00:42:17.420 --> 00:42:21.320
love connecting with with other people who who

00:42:21.320 --> 00:42:24.039
experience things like that and often I'll get

00:42:24.039 --> 00:42:26.960
like like especially at night or when it's dark

00:42:26.960 --> 00:42:29.639
I mean like it happens when it's light out too,

00:42:29.860 --> 00:42:33.739
but especially when it's dark I'll see like flashes

00:42:33.739 --> 00:42:37.829
of light like in random, and I'm like, oh, hello.

00:42:38.670 --> 00:42:50.349
Oh, hello. Oh, I love it so much. A lot of times

00:42:50.349 --> 00:42:53.309
that I've been out on my back deck, when it was

00:42:53.309 --> 00:42:55.869
dark outside, but there's the little light that's

00:42:55.869 --> 00:43:00.949
out on the wall there. I can put my hand out,

00:43:01.030 --> 00:43:04.250
especially if the moon is out, into the dark.

00:43:04.429 --> 00:43:09.550
and I can see the like cyan blue and like the

00:43:09.550 --> 00:43:13.949
purple bright bright bright bright right so it's

00:43:13.949 --> 00:43:16.849
like gotta be a perfect type of setting for that

00:43:16.849 --> 00:43:21.070
auric field to like really show well I started

00:43:21.070 --> 00:43:25.110
doing that after um it was like three or probably

00:43:25.110 --> 00:43:28.449
four years ago now um me my husband a bunch of

00:43:28.449 --> 00:43:32.349
our friends were out just sitting on the back

00:43:32.349 --> 00:43:36.050
deck on the ground We're all hanging out talking

00:43:36.050 --> 00:43:38.869
whatever super nice outside and I'm sitting like

00:43:38.869 --> 00:43:40.730
all the way in the back corner Right, and I'm

00:43:40.730 --> 00:43:42.750
just watching everyone and I could see at the

00:43:42.750 --> 00:43:46.809
top of everyone's heads just like little Yes,

00:43:47.389 --> 00:43:53.449
yes, I have seen that before too Especially for

00:43:53.449 --> 00:43:59.369
me I saw it one day at the courthouse During

00:43:59.369 --> 00:44:04.480
a proceeding with my husband I like that It's

00:44:04.480 --> 00:44:07.360
like, thank you. It's not mine, but I like it

00:44:07.360 --> 00:44:12.300
too. The marble, the white marble was behind

00:44:12.300 --> 00:44:14.739
him and I was like, you know, there's nobody

00:44:14.739 --> 00:44:17.500
else around him and it's all bright white around

00:44:17.500 --> 00:44:21.260
him in the background. And especially when I

00:44:21.260 --> 00:44:23.340
see things that's in my peripheral, like it's

00:44:23.340 --> 00:44:25.380
not always when I look straight on, but in my

00:44:25.380 --> 00:44:30.000
peripheral I'll be able to see some auric things

00:44:30.000 --> 00:44:39.179
or beings, I guess. It doesn't happen often,

00:44:39.199 --> 00:44:42.219
but essentially when I feel like I see someone

00:44:42.219 --> 00:44:46.280
in my side vision, I am seeing someone. I trust

00:44:46.280 --> 00:44:50.880
that at this point. But I've been able to see

00:44:50.880 --> 00:44:54.380
things that look like wavy heat, like what you

00:44:54.380 --> 00:44:59.880
see above a fire, particulate moving very fast,

00:44:59.880 --> 00:45:03.710
but it's static around the outline. So the only

00:45:03.710 --> 00:45:07.610
reason I can see it is because the outline is

00:45:07.610 --> 00:45:11.250
Staying still and I'm like what that's shaped

00:45:11.250 --> 00:45:13.010
like a person right there. You know what I mean?

00:45:13.010 --> 00:45:17.170
Like there's obviously a person but For years

00:45:17.170 --> 00:45:21.869
I was told I was crazy. Anyway, um By my husband

00:45:21.869 --> 00:45:26.949
that's why he's my husband So it's okay, I forget

00:45:26.949 --> 00:45:29.369
where I was going with this but Earlier when

00:45:29.369 --> 00:45:31.869
we were talking about the ability to see oh,

00:45:31.889 --> 00:45:34.349
yeah, I could see a blue light around him I could

00:45:34.349 --> 00:45:37.670
see a very very bright like aqua blue around

00:45:37.670 --> 00:45:41.230
the outside of him and I was like Maybe he's

00:45:41.230 --> 00:45:46.269
not that bad. No I was like, what does it mean?

00:45:46.489 --> 00:45:49.429
Maybe he's good. No, I'm past that now past the

00:45:49.429 --> 00:45:51.329
good bad thing But that was a while ago. That

00:45:51.329 --> 00:45:56.139
was a couple years ago But I did see just yesterday

00:45:56.139 --> 00:45:59.539
also on Instagram. I don't know who shared it,

00:45:59.539 --> 00:46:02.980
but it was about these contact lenses that are

00:46:02.980 --> 00:46:06.300
being developed for people to be able to see

00:46:06.300 --> 00:46:10.260
in the dark. Oh, yes, I saw that. Did you? Okay.

00:46:11.139 --> 00:46:14.559
So they're talking about how they work very well

00:46:14.559 --> 00:46:16.280
for people to be able to see in the dark. But

00:46:16.280 --> 00:46:19.139
in addition to that, they're able to see beings

00:46:19.139 --> 00:46:22.800
that are scary and they've they're dark and they

00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:25.760
have big glowing eyes and long fingers. And one

00:46:25.760 --> 00:46:29.539
of them like lunged through someone's body. And

00:46:29.539 --> 00:46:31.440
they're like, yeah, they think they're great,

00:46:31.460 --> 00:46:33.039
but they're going to keep tweaking them until

00:46:33.039 --> 00:46:37.059
you can't see things that other people can't.

00:46:37.719 --> 00:46:39.900
Well, I don't know if that's a good thing or

00:46:39.900 --> 00:46:42.679
a bad thing. Well, you know what? Back to what

00:46:42.679 --> 00:46:47.219
I was saying. There is no good or bad. It just

00:46:47.219 --> 00:46:50.869
is. you know what I have heard that particular

00:46:50.869 --> 00:46:54.889
saying so many times over the last few months

00:46:54.889 --> 00:46:58.929
and I love hearing it because it's like it just

00:46:58.929 --> 00:47:04.449
reiterates to me like oh oh yeah okay yeah it

00:47:04.449 --> 00:47:08.469
just is there are those beings that are not connected

00:47:08.469 --> 00:47:13.639
to source that Feed on our loose our emotions

00:47:13.639 --> 00:47:16.820
the energy that we produce from our physical

00:47:16.820 --> 00:47:20.159
bodies connected with our consciousness and heart

00:47:20.159 --> 00:47:24.659
and all of that produces a type of energy that

00:47:24.659 --> 00:47:27.980
they eat for breakfast and That's just the way

00:47:27.980 --> 00:47:32.699
it is that exists. I have to ask so because you

00:47:32.699 --> 00:47:37.199
said loose I'm just curious. Have you read David

00:47:37.199 --> 00:47:42.320
Ike's books? I have not. Oh, okay. I have not.

00:47:42.619 --> 00:47:44.760
Is that about, is he big into the reptilians

00:47:44.760 --> 00:47:49.380
and stuff? Is that who he's, what he does describing

00:47:49.380 --> 00:47:52.500
that conspiracy? Like I was just saying, conspiracy.

00:47:53.079 --> 00:47:56.739
It's not a conspiracy. It is. It is. It exists.

00:47:57.400 --> 00:48:00.639
But yeah. Is he big on that? I don't, I'm not

00:48:00.639 --> 00:48:03.710
familiar, like I said. He was one of the first

00:48:03.710 --> 00:48:08.369
people back in like the 70s or 80s maybe who

00:48:08.369 --> 00:48:10.829
came on like live television and was telling

00:48:10.829 --> 00:48:13.769
people like no we're in a matrix and they all

00:48:13.769 --> 00:48:16.230
like condemned him for whatever and he's written

00:48:16.230 --> 00:48:20.309
so many books since then The Trap, The Dream,

00:48:22.719 --> 00:48:26.159
everything you need to know or something. Um

00:48:26.159 --> 00:48:29.940
so many books. My friend Chris Chrissy from Millington.

00:48:30.500 --> 00:48:33.360
That's my nickname. That's my nickname. Yeah.

00:48:33.880 --> 00:48:38.920
Yeah. Thank you. She got me all of his books

00:48:38.920 --> 00:48:41.139
for Christmas one year. The first year that we

00:48:41.139 --> 00:48:44.079
ever met. So sweet. And anyways, at the time,

00:48:44.099 --> 00:48:47.820
I was going through like this huge like dark

00:48:47.820 --> 00:48:50.400
night of the soul that lasted like six months

00:48:50.400 --> 00:48:54.389
and I Like all of, let me just put it this way,

00:48:54.670 --> 00:48:58.670
Journey of Souls was like my Bible, right? And

00:48:58.670 --> 00:49:01.789
I was doing the work that I'm doing now. And

00:49:01.789 --> 00:49:05.329
like, I felt like everything was being stripped

00:49:05.329 --> 00:49:08.630
away from me, my beliefs, my connection, even

00:49:08.630 --> 00:49:10.769
though, you know, you can never lose your connection.

00:49:11.960 --> 00:49:14.739
But it feels like it sometimes. Yeah, that's

00:49:14.739 --> 00:49:17.800
how it felt for sure. I left my business, you

00:49:17.800 --> 00:49:19.179
know, I was just doing massage and all these

00:49:19.179 --> 00:49:22.039
things. And Chrissy introduced me to the David

00:49:22.039 --> 00:49:24.800
Icke books and in it he talks about Journey of

00:49:24.800 --> 00:49:30.039
Souls. And I just, it was like taking my whole

00:49:30.039 --> 00:49:33.139
self and just like turning it inside out and

00:49:33.139 --> 00:49:35.420
like, okay, we'll figure out what to do now.

00:49:35.900 --> 00:49:39.960
Yes, I've also had an experience like that. I

00:49:39.960 --> 00:49:42.900
had a very, very rapid spiritual awakening having

00:49:42.900 --> 00:49:48.280
to do with being consciously bio located. So

00:49:48.280 --> 00:49:51.380
essentially, I experienced my consciousness being

00:49:51.380 --> 00:49:54.420
taken from my body, put into another timeline.

00:49:54.539 --> 00:49:58.539
And then I broke that jumped back into my body,

00:49:59.079 --> 00:50:00.960
tried to interrogate the person that was with

00:50:00.960 --> 00:50:05.179
me. He was not the person that I knew he was

00:50:06.920 --> 00:50:10.059
How do I say it other than possessed and I don't

00:50:10.059 --> 00:50:13.860
mean that like it was scary or he was wrong or

00:50:13.860 --> 00:50:16.980
bad or anything was wrong or bad I just mean

00:50:16.980 --> 00:50:20.920
literally he was a Vessel he was not the person

00:50:20.920 --> 00:50:23.619
that I knew he was not there other people were

00:50:23.619 --> 00:50:29.699
there with in him it was terrifying but What

00:50:29.699 --> 00:50:34.880
what better way to see right through? The fabric

00:50:34.880 --> 00:50:40.440
of reality than that. So yeah, after that, I

00:50:40.440 --> 00:50:43.659
also went through a very deep, dark night of

00:50:43.659 --> 00:50:49.699
the soul experience. And yeah. Yeah. And that's

00:50:49.699 --> 00:50:53.360
what I like to call the slingshot. That's because

00:50:53.360 --> 00:50:56.679
when you pull it back, how much farther it goes.

00:50:57.300 --> 00:51:01.599
Yes. So I have a question for you. Because because

00:51:01.599 --> 00:51:04.989
we're so similar in Let me just throw it out

00:51:04.989 --> 00:51:10.170
here like this. I had seizures as a kid. They

00:51:10.170 --> 00:51:12.010
couldn't figure out where it was coming from,

00:51:12.010 --> 00:51:14.969
why I was having them. I eventually kind of like

00:51:14.969 --> 00:51:17.170
grew out of it, but I still had petite mal seizures

00:51:17.170 --> 00:51:19.210
is what they would call it, but come to find

00:51:19.210 --> 00:51:24.769
out it's like, it felt like an ego death, but

00:51:24.769 --> 00:51:30.670
I was sober and awake. Like all of a sudden I'm

00:51:30.670 --> 00:51:33.480
super hyper aware of what I'm doing. I'm looking

00:51:33.480 --> 00:51:38.079
at my hands like I know these aren't my hands

00:51:38.079 --> 00:51:40.460
but they don't feel like me and having to remind

00:51:40.460 --> 00:51:43.539
myself like okay you're Amanda Hayes you're here

00:51:43.539 --> 00:51:47.199
this is what you're doing but I felt like if

00:51:47.199 --> 00:51:51.380
I didn't coax myself back into staying there

00:51:51.380 --> 00:51:55.780
I would just be my consciousness would not be

00:51:55.780 --> 00:51:58.820
here anymore and it's fine so I was wondering

00:51:58.820 --> 00:52:03.369
like yes yeah I totally, I totally hear what

00:52:03.369 --> 00:52:05.349
you're saying. And while you're, while you were

00:52:05.349 --> 00:52:08.150
saying that I did also see, I was the part of

00:52:08.150 --> 00:52:09.989
you being like, you're Amanda Hayes come back.

00:52:10.110 --> 00:52:11.670
You know what I mean? Like it's like, that's

00:52:11.670 --> 00:52:15.469
you here. Um, that was them helping you to come

00:52:15.469 --> 00:52:19.429
back into that. Um, I saw your higher self coming

00:52:19.429 --> 00:52:22.130
in and also like a different aspect, like trying

00:52:22.130 --> 00:52:25.150
to take you. And there is, I think, so are you,

00:52:25.250 --> 00:52:30.300
are you part of the secret space program? I don't

00:52:30.300 --> 00:52:33.260
like with my bi -located self. Yeah, or do you

00:52:33.260 --> 00:52:38.159
think it's When I tap into her sometimes sometimes

00:52:38.159 --> 00:52:42.019
she's like At home and it kind of looks like

00:52:42.019 --> 00:52:44.820
Africa and you know And then other times she's

00:52:44.820 --> 00:52:47.559
in a suit and she's like doing things like one

00:52:47.559 --> 00:52:50.159
time she was in the ocean Another time she was

00:52:50.159 --> 00:52:55.420
in a ship, you know, so yeah That is what you

00:52:55.420 --> 00:52:59.559
met or not that well, yeah um so there is definitely

00:52:59.559 --> 00:53:02.239
you're connected to the level of consciousness

00:53:02.239 --> 00:53:08.019
with the it's you but it wouldn't exist without

00:53:08.019 --> 00:53:11.199
your consciousness from here that's why it's

00:53:11.199 --> 00:53:14.599
so connected it's not another life it's not a

00:53:14.599 --> 00:53:17.219
past life which we also know are not in the past

00:53:17.219 --> 00:53:22.079
everything's now it's a it's a split it's a separation

00:53:22.079 --> 00:53:25.880
that exists from the source that is you and it's

00:53:25.880 --> 00:53:33.380
that's not common The experiences that I had

00:53:33.380 --> 00:53:37.519
for a number of years from the age of 21 to about

00:53:37.519 --> 00:53:42.880
23, I had syncope, which is random loss of consciousness.

00:53:43.340 --> 00:53:48.860
What? Yeah, I would just pass out. Oh, wow. And

00:53:48.860 --> 00:53:54.159
I think that was me leaving, going to other places.

00:53:54.360 --> 00:54:00.869
Yeah. Yeah. Um, and I've also recognized our

00:54:00.869 --> 00:54:05.630
health and the way that our body reacts as not

00:54:05.630 --> 00:54:09.289
being able to be defined by medical science.

00:54:09.909 --> 00:54:14.190
Like I also have a tumor in my brain that's like

00:54:14.190 --> 00:54:17.289
basically between my brain and my brain, my cerebellum.

00:54:17.570 --> 00:54:20.869
So it's like your brain here and then your cerebellum

00:54:20.869 --> 00:54:25.630
here. It's between them. So Nobody's been able

00:54:25.630 --> 00:54:28.210
to identify what it is. It hasn't changed in

00:54:28.210 --> 00:54:30.690
over 10 years. I just recently got an MRI to

00:54:30.690 --> 00:54:34.610
check on it. It hasn't changed from the work

00:54:34.610 --> 00:54:38.110
that I'm doing with a guide helping me with the

00:54:38.110 --> 00:54:41.130
secret space program aspects, which is that for

00:54:41.130 --> 00:54:46.389
me is why I'm bio located. It's an implant. It's

00:54:46.389 --> 00:54:49.110
an energetic implant, but it's also physical.

00:54:49.510 --> 00:54:55.110
And it does have to do with the modulation regulation

00:54:55.110 --> 00:55:00.690
of my energy transmission capabilities. So essentially

00:55:00.690 --> 00:55:05.949
what I was told is it was in order to keep my,

00:55:05.949 --> 00:55:12.329
keep my ability to transmit frequencies dampened

00:55:12.329 --> 00:55:15.449
down, like at a smaller radius. You know what

00:55:15.449 --> 00:55:23.360
I mean? So that's fun. Like sake, you know, I

00:55:23.360 --> 00:55:27.519
think I I think it's because I would affect a

00:55:27.519 --> 00:55:34.880
much larger area in a in a greater capacity if

00:55:34.880 --> 00:55:40.139
it wasn't turned down So I think we should turn

00:55:40.139 --> 00:55:44.699
it the fuck up That sounds like a good thing.

00:55:44.719 --> 00:55:48.360
Yeah. Well, I'm not dealing with good people

00:55:48.590 --> 00:55:54.750
It's not a good thing. But yeah, it is fascinating.

00:55:55.610 --> 00:55:58.949
And I'd also want to say from a grounded perspective,

00:55:58.949 --> 00:56:02.530
for us to have these understandings of different

00:56:02.530 --> 00:56:06.849
versions of ourselves, I find it to be incredibly

00:56:06.849 --> 00:56:10.630
helpful for my mental health and understanding

00:56:10.630 --> 00:56:14.590
and practice. It's like my version of therapy.

00:56:14.849 --> 00:56:18.280
And I also go to therapy. and my therapist is

00:56:18.280 --> 00:56:19.940
in total agreement with me. She's like, you're

00:56:19.940 --> 00:56:23.039
great. So I don't, you know, it's funny because

00:56:23.039 --> 00:56:25.159
personally, and I would like to ask you this

00:56:25.159 --> 00:56:28.739
question because of our similarities, but have

00:56:28.739 --> 00:56:33.559
you ever had circumstances where people are like,

00:56:33.659 --> 00:56:36.980
you're just crazy and like called you crazy and

00:56:36.980 --> 00:56:39.460
like didn't listen to you and like, you know,

00:56:40.340 --> 00:56:43.420
Well, first of all, I did want to say, because

00:56:43.420 --> 00:56:47.760
of our similarities, I don't have a tumor right

00:56:47.760 --> 00:56:52.699
here, but when they were doing MRIs and CAT scans

00:56:52.699 --> 00:56:54.500
when I was having seizures when I was younger,

00:56:54.559 --> 00:56:58.139
they found that it's like a spindle -looking

00:56:58.139 --> 00:57:01.179
wheel thing of veins that's all bundled up right

00:57:01.179 --> 00:57:03.119
here in that same spot that you were talking

00:57:03.119 --> 00:57:06.480
about. Is it like the mouth of God chakra, like

00:57:06.480 --> 00:57:09.889
right in the back of your head? Yeah. Oh, boy.

00:57:10.630 --> 00:57:13.150
When you said that, I was like, that's really

00:57:13.150 --> 00:57:18.769
weird. But also, yes, absolutely. Not recently,

00:57:19.530 --> 00:57:24.769
but now I don't really see a whole lot of people

00:57:24.769 --> 00:57:26.510
unless they're clients and if their clients are

00:57:26.510 --> 00:57:28.889
coming to me to talk about all of these things.

00:57:28.989 --> 00:57:34.909
Oh, back in the day with my more relationship

00:57:34.909 --> 00:57:38.170
type stuff, yes. you're crazy i don't even what

00:57:38.170 --> 00:57:41.349
are you talking about yeah the gas lighting and

00:57:41.349 --> 00:57:43.610
all that i think that's part of the programming

00:57:43.610 --> 00:57:47.289
with it too i mean i would if you feel inclined

00:57:47.289 --> 00:57:50.769
look up some things on the secret space program

00:57:50.769 --> 00:57:54.289
some of it can be very extreme some of it can

00:57:54.289 --> 00:57:59.570
be very destabilizing and it's not that you wouldn't

00:57:59.570 --> 00:58:03.349
understand it but it's like what it has generated

00:58:03.349 --> 00:58:06.929
for me is like, why? Why me? Why am I in this?

00:58:07.250 --> 00:58:11.289
Why? Why? You know? Oh, absolutely. And you know

00:58:11.289 --> 00:58:14.210
what's crazy? I just remembered a few months

00:58:14.210 --> 00:58:16.670
ago, I was talking with my best friend, sister

00:58:16.670 --> 00:58:21.889
Brandy, about an experience that I had had. Sometimes

00:58:21.889 --> 00:58:24.070
like I'll randomly pick up my phone. It doesn't

00:58:24.070 --> 00:58:26.489
happen very often, but I'll pick up my phone

00:58:26.489 --> 00:58:29.170
and it will have the wrong date in the wrong

00:58:29.170 --> 00:58:32.360
time on my phone. And that happened one time

00:58:32.360 --> 00:58:39.500
back in 2011. In 2011, I picked up my phone and

00:58:39.500 --> 00:58:44.599
it said December 21st, 2011 at like 2 p .m. or

00:58:44.599 --> 00:58:47.000
something like that. And I'm like, what the fuck

00:58:47.000 --> 00:58:50.780
is that? So I was just coming into like learning

00:58:50.780 --> 00:58:52.860
about all of these different things and I found

00:58:52.860 --> 00:58:55.380
it super interesting. So I wrote that date down.

00:58:56.059 --> 00:58:58.619
I keep that was when I kept like journals and

00:58:58.619 --> 00:59:05.239
stuff, which I still have all of them. I, it

00:59:05.239 --> 00:59:08.980
was like a year or so ago, I went and was looking

00:59:08.980 --> 00:59:13.960
up. Oh, I was listening to sorry I was listening

00:59:13.960 --> 00:59:16.320
to it like an audio book or a podcast and this

00:59:16.320 --> 00:59:20.940
woman was talking about how I think it was from

00:59:20.940 --> 00:59:25.380
Dolores Cannon, she would go. and receive messages

00:59:25.380 --> 00:59:28.380
to like go outside at particular times for like,

00:59:28.880 --> 00:59:33.840
you know, for people from the space program or

00:59:33.840 --> 00:59:35.719
whatever to like come and like, oh, you need

00:59:35.719 --> 00:59:38.199
to be at this meeting at this time. And one of

00:59:38.199 --> 00:59:40.079
the times she had said was the time that I wrote

00:59:40.079 --> 00:59:43.360
down that I got on my phone, swear on everything.

00:59:43.719 --> 00:59:46.199
And I told Brandy about it. And I'm like sitting

00:59:46.199 --> 00:59:49.260
here shaking like, this is crazy. It was forever

00:59:49.260 --> 00:59:52.179
ago. And obviously I don't think anything came

00:59:52.179 --> 00:59:55.820
of that, but it was just, it was super. Yeah.

00:59:56.679 --> 01:00:00.300
That is giving me some tingly feelings. So I

01:00:00.300 --> 01:00:04.099
would say that that's right. That is very interesting.

01:00:04.219 --> 01:00:09.179
Isn't it? It's very crazy. I know it is. I'm

01:00:09.179 --> 01:00:11.639
looking at the time right now on our call. It's

01:00:11.639 --> 01:00:17.559
1, 11, 23. So I like that. But I know that you

01:00:17.559 --> 01:00:19.699
have an appointment to go to. I also have an

01:00:19.699 --> 01:00:22.460
appointment to go to We definitely need to talk

01:00:22.460 --> 01:00:26.659
again. This has been such an amazing conversation,

01:00:26.760 --> 01:00:29.340
and I'm so glad we connected. Thank you so much,

01:00:29.460 --> 01:00:32.460
Mandy. Thank you so much, Christine. I really

01:00:32.460 --> 01:00:35.139
appreciate you. You were so easy to talk to.

01:00:35.219 --> 01:00:38.750
This was so much fun. Thank you. And I, we will

01:00:38.750 --> 01:00:40.829
be talking again. I'll send you another link

01:00:40.829 --> 01:00:42.730
as soon as we get off of here. I hope you have

01:00:42.730 --> 01:00:46.110
a wonderful day, lots of healing and learning

01:00:46.110 --> 01:00:50.309
and expanding and surrendering up for you. Right.

01:00:51.250 --> 01:00:53.289
I appreciate you. I hope you have a great rest

01:00:53.289 --> 01:00:57.730
of your day. Thank you so much. Thanks. Bye.

01:00:59.510 --> 01:01:02.949
Thank Mandy truly for showing up in the middle

01:01:02.949 --> 01:01:06.550
of her recovery in the middle of life. and still

01:01:06.550 --> 01:01:09.429
being willing to share your heart and your perspective.

01:01:10.670 --> 01:01:13.610
I feel like this conversation had so many little

01:01:13.610 --> 01:01:16.010
spark points, those little moments where something

01:01:16.010 --> 01:01:20.250
inside you goes, yes, that, I remember that too.

01:01:20.929 --> 01:01:23.630
And if you're listening and you felt that too,

01:01:23.710 --> 01:01:27.190
just know you're not alone. Sometimes the medicine

01:01:27.190 --> 01:01:30.530
of an episode isn't even the words, it's the

01:01:30.530 --> 01:01:33.710
frequency of what's being witnessed and reflected.

01:01:34.829 --> 01:01:37.900
Remembering yourself through someone else's language.

01:01:39.179 --> 01:01:41.440
If you want to connect with Mandy and her work

01:01:41.440 --> 01:01:45.559
you can find her at Lemon Sage and Lavender.

01:01:45.760 --> 01:01:47.860
It's where you can learn more about her offerings

01:01:47.860 --> 01:01:51.159
including tarot and aura readings, energy work,

01:01:51.480 --> 01:01:54.900
soul alignment sessions, and body work. If you

01:01:54.900 --> 01:01:57.480
would like to connect with me I'm at Hyacinth

01:01:57.480 --> 01:02:00.820
Healing. As always thank you for being here.

01:02:00.840 --> 01:02:04.050
Thank you for listening. And thank you for walking

01:02:04.050 --> 01:02:07.230
this strange, beautiful remembering with us.

01:02:07.869 --> 01:02:09.349
I'll see you in the next episode.
