Hello and welcome to another episode of In My
Experience with yours truly, Christine DiGinto.
This podcast is a space where I speak from lived
experience. The moments that shaped me, challenged
me, and changed the way that I understand myself
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to explore the gray areas we don't often have
language for, to slow things down and listen
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systems that try to define me. and conversations
with guests who have walked strange, beautiful,
and sometimes painful paths of their own and
come back with wisdom to share with us. I invite
you to take what resonates, leave the rest, and
trust your own experience as valid. Thank you
for being here. This is In My Experience. Welcome
back. I'm Christine Dugento, and today I'm honored
to be joined by Mandy Hayes. Mandy is a soul
alignment and spiritual life coach, an artist,
and mother of three boys. She owns Lemon Sage
and Lavender, where she works in her devotion
to helping people remember who they are beneath
conditioning and old patterns. She weaves together
tarot and aura readings. energy work like Reiki,
QHHT, and Akashic style readings, as well as
massage therapy, as pathways back to our original
blueprint. In this conversation, Mandy and I
recognize a lot of familiar language in each
other. We follow the threads that light up when
two people start comparing notes on expanded
perception and lived spiritual experience. Here
are some of the places we travel together in
this episode. Lemuria and ancient memory, star
seeds and soul origins, seeing and sensing auras,
clairvoyant perception, and bio -location of
consciousness. As always, listen for whatever
resonates and let the rest move on by. Let's
get into it with Mandy. Oh my goodness. Thank
you everyone for joining us today. I just wanted
to introduce our guest, Mandy Hayes, a beautiful
mother of three boys, an artist, a healer, and
one who walks in her purpose as someone who helps
others help themselves, which I so appreciate.
We were just talking a little bit before we pressed
record, and I am so sad that I didn't have it
started. What a tremendous ordeal that you have
been going through just recently and you're carrying.
It was such grace and gratitude, and I just find
that unbelievable. I'm going to give you some
time to introduce yourself, Mandy, and then we
can get more into our conversation. Oh, for sure.
Thank you so much. I really appreciate that.
I'm Mandy. I am the owner of Lemon Sage and Lavender
in downtown Lapeer. That place is one of my many
babies where I do tarot readings. They're more
like auric tarot readings because they like tap
into your energy field and receive information
that way first and then go into a tarot reading,
right? Yeah. QHHT you know reiki sessions massage
um soul realignment sessions they all kind of
come to the same conclusion that i found is you
know finding out who you are who are you like
beneath all of the the mess and negative programming,
the repetitive thought patterns beneath all of
this stuff, like your original divine blueprint,
right? And so - Amen. Amen. Just so much fun
because you can go into any of the modalities
and it's like, I was thinking about this yesterday.
It's like a path and there's all these different
branches that you can go off of, but they all
connect to the same - True. Yes. Yes, absolutely.
And I 100 % agree in my practice, I have felt
very drawn to the Akashic records, past life
regression therapy, and then also while doing
those two or one holographic matrix repatterning
is what it has been coined, right? That's what
we call it. I'm not trained in QHHT, but I've
considered it because it is the most widely known
and I adore Dolores Cannon and all of the books
and transcripts and audio from her sessions.
It's just absolutely fascinating. I find it endlessly
entertaining as I've described before this journey
of discovering ourselves and who we really are
and what this reality is and what it's powered
by, which is us and our energy and intention.
So it's just so incredible. It is that when you
figure that out, when that like last little spot
falls into place, because you could hear the
same thing a million times, but it will be that
one millionth time where you hear it and it's
like, Oh my God. Yes. Like I literally do create
my own reality. Crazy. Yes. When it clicks in,
it clicks in fast and hard. It's incredible.
Mandy, I wanted to mention also the book that
you published. I was so moved by that when you
shared it with me. I so appreciate having the
types of conversations we're having here now
about how important it is to find out who you
are and what your purpose is and your blueprint
and your potential and expand on that. As mothers,
we apply that also to our children and their
lives and potential. And you wrote a children's
book expressing, you know, the spiritual aspects
of life. And I just so appreciate that. Can you
talk a little bit more about it? Thank you. Yes.
Oh my goodness. So Oh, love -filled. It was,
well, it is kind of based off of my oldest son.
And when he was younger, you know, I was a young
mom as we were talking about earlier. And, you
know, his dad was coming from a very wounded
place. I was coming from a very wounded place.
The relationship, there was like a deep love
there, because we were kids, you know, but it
was covered up by so much drama and heavy stuff.
So like, I know that even from the very beginning,
Christopher was absorbing all of this energy,
just this heavy, dense stuff, right? It sounds
like a karmic relationship and a karmic incarnation
of your son to help too. That's what I'm receiving
very clearly as you speak. I'm seeing a lot right
now. That's amazing. Oh my goodness. That's so
funny. He had a very difficult childhood. Of
course, when he became a teenager in the very
beginning. It was just like, it was so bad. It
was so bad. Poor guy. I don't want to speak too
much on his behalf because, you know, his piece
is own person. Yeah. But anyways, that was the
inspiration for the book. And it was crazy because
I wasn't even planning a children's book. I swear
you could be doing the dishes. You could be going
pee. I was in the bathroom at the time. And there
was just these, this idea popped in my head and
I'm like, oh, that's cool. Okay. But then I like
kind of dismissed it, you know, washing my hands.
Oh, it pops in again. I'm like, I get it. Cool.
You know? But it wasn't until like I came in
the living room and I remember sitting down.
And I like accepted the idea and I'm like, okay,
we'll dive in here. What's going on? And then
it was just like sentence after sentence after
sentence and it was all in rhyme. And I'm like,
this is the coolest thing that's ever happened
to me. So that's amazing. Sitting there writing
it all down and I'm like, this is a freaking
book. This is a book that is so crazy. So yeah,
it's been my baby. I know that the message is
really relevant. for today's society. And yes,
I just feel like it's really important when parents
are reading it to their kids or grandparents
or aunts and uncles. Yes. It's awesome because
it is also a reminder for us, not just for kids.
Absolutely. I mean, I know I teared up when I
was reading it because it's just, I could, I
was when I read, I can hear that voice in my
head as well. Think that that's normal. Maybe
it's not apparently a lot of things that have
been happening my entire life that I thought
everyone could do aren't normal so I don't know
but So I hear this voice and it's like I could
hear it as if someone were reading it to me as
a child I was reading it to my daughter as a
mother and I was reading also from the perspective
of other people in a different frame of mind.
And I could see all the illuminated spaces where
the sparks were coming. And when that happens,
when you see those little sparks and they're
so close together, it really helps to create
the charge where they magnetize and it... expands
and continue like that's how I see it. And that's
what I was experiencing when I was reading it.
So yeah, I love that so much. Yeah. Thank you
for sharing that with me. Absolutely. Oh, I'm
excited to see. I don't know, like just to I
want to say to see what comes of it. However,
As like my mind is going a million miles a second.
As I was saying that I was also thinking like,
okay, well, this is obviously divinely inspired.
This was something that was. downloaded or, you
know, whatever word you want to put on it. So
it would be interesting to see how many people
it reaches because of that, you know. Oh, absolutely.
Yes. Yes. It seemed very persistent. It was a
persistent knowing that came into creation because
you gave it the space. And I think that's where
the magic happens for all of us. And it's, it's
what a blessing it would be if we could all like
slow down just a little bit. Like you said, like
you were going pee, then you're washing your
hands. You're mom, you're busy, you work, you
do all this stuff. So I understand completely.
And that happens to me frequently as well. I
don't get ideas to create things. I get ideas
to understand things and I get information and
I'll get like visions. And then sometimes I was
talking with Amy Belair about this one time and
I was like, sometimes I'll just be doing the
dishes. but I'm imagining that I'm in the Amazon
and I'm grounding and I'm connected with the
rainforest and I'm breathing with the earth and
I'm like locked in and I'm like, and tell me
that I'm not because I see it. It's like double
vision. Like I'm there and I'm here and she's
like, you probably are. But you know, that is
so incredibly beautiful because like, you know,
I'm a very visual person. I can. see movement
I can experience touch heat all the things like
in my mind's eye, you know what I mean? Obviously,
I mean, but I, for whatever reason, I will daydream
till the cows come home about the most random,
not even important things, or stuff that like
gets me like Yeah. And I've been really, really
working on that a lot lately, especially since,
you know, the accident and I've been sitting
here in bed. Oh, goodness. But I want to practice
that what you are doing way more and use that
imagination that, you know, ADHD mind to my advantage.
Absolutely. That's beautiful. Yes. And I struggle
sometimes too with the looping and it has been
coming out. I've been unraveling something that
I have known about for years, but I have not
dove into because it's just so, it's very complex,
but having to do with being biolocated and having
my consciousness existing in another body that
is working, but we're connected in space, essentially.
So a lot of times people have said, you're ungrounded.
And I'm like. Offended, I'm like offended because
I'm like, I am Mother Earth herself. I am like
very calm and rational. And I sit, I walk around
barefoot outside. I breathe, I sage, I do all
the things. I don't know why you're saying I'm
ungrounded, right? I try very hard and I feel
like I'm a bad girl, like I'm doing something
wrong. Like, oh, you're ungrounded. Like it's
like wrong, right? It's not, it's just a, it's
just a, it's a place. It's a place where your
consciousness is. But then what I have become
aware of just recently is sensual embodiment.
does not necessarily relate to sex as much as
it does being embodied in your body and experiencing
your senses fully, all the way in your body.
So that has been an interesting revelation for
me. So that's really incredible. I am bi -located
as well. And so as you're talking, I'm like,
ooh, I get it. I get it. Because for the longest
time, like, you know, I meditate, I do yoga,
I stretch, I do, you know, all of the things.
But I found that it was eating heavy food and
drinking like wine or something would put me
right back in my body. And like, but it was so,
you know, it's not healthy, obviously. So it's
a wild like, trying to find that, that one thing
that's like healthy that can keep you grounded.
That's more than, you know, I don't know, you
know, What if it's our thoughts? Like, cause
I totally understand and agree all the things,
like I was saying before, I do all the things
to be grounded. And why is it so difficult or
unsuccessful? Because it's based on our lightning
fast connected connectivity with that other version
of our consciousness being bio located. We're
going through different dimensions constantly.
And it's very ungrounding. So like our body,
we need to rely on our bodies to help us as we
transmit through those different frequencies.
But I think that we have more control. And it's
almost like I'm telling this to myself. I'm just
realizing this now too. We have more control
based on our thoughts and our emotions. So when
we get those loops, sometimes I think it's intentional.
And I do believe that there is frequency manipulation
in the sense that it affects the way that you
think and feel. And I think that that is widespread,
but it's also specifically directed at people
who have those known components and are on the
lists, as you would say, you know, they are targeted.
Yeah. Yeah. I got you girl. So it's like being
aware of that and centering in your heart. Like
our hearts are the key to all of it. It's like
right in the middle. All of it makes sense. It's
balanced. It's it's open and it's. If we can
shift the thoughts to the heart. and feel that
peace frequency around us. Like we could probably
glide much more easily and be less affected.
You know what I mean? It'd be like a membrane.
Yeah. No, I love that so much. It's funny because
I feel like it's either something that's changed
with me in like the practice. um because it's
like i'm seeing it through my eyes obviously
um so it's coming through my own filter or if
something is changing with the collective which
we know that it is i guess it really doesn't
matter but um in the last like month or so whenever
i'm doing a reiki session on someone like at
the very beginning of the session i stand at
their star chakra and just kind of look at their
energy field as a whole what colors are showing
up, what the movements like, any obstruction,
you know, blah, blah, blah. And I do it at the
very end as well. So lately, when I'm looking
at people's energy fields towards the very end,
it looks like, like a beautiful, constantly moving
mandala of different colors. And I've never seen
that before up until like this past month. So
I'm just wondering how you were talking about,
you know, like feeling and seeing from your heart
and it expanding outward if like we're all starting
to work from our heart more, you know, do you
see? we've been blasted by so many solar flares
we've definitely been upgraded uh recently i
feel like there was a lot of activity toward
the end of the year like right yeah you know
and there's so much going on and there's a lot
of clearing happening uh yeah it's it's popping
off very true that's very true um a year 2026
is going to be you know Like kind of the very
beginning steps of a whole brand new era So there's
a lot of change and ship that's gonna be happening
this year, which is gonna make things crazy,
but worth it Yeah, 2027 is like the year. I believe
it. I feel it I feel it in my bones all the way.
So yeah, it's very nice Mandy would you like
to talk about? We were talking before I pressed
record. Would you like to share about what happened
on Monday or not? Oh Yeah, sure. That's okay.
Okay So Life is crazy and you never know what's
gonna happen, right? Yeah So I have three boys
And Monday I went to work. I went grocery shopping
I went and picked up my one son from basketball,
my other two from their grandparents' house.
My oldest son, he finished driver's training,
the first one. He's in that in -between stage
where he has to practice driving and stuff before
he can take the second class. And so, you know,
we live in Michigan. It's winter outside, but
nothing was crazy. He asked to drive and I told
him, yeah. Well, because I was at work all day,
I put all of my stuff in the front passenger
seat. So there are paintings in the front passenger
seat, my backpack, laptop, a bag of clothes,
I think, on the floor. I didn't feel like taking
all of it and throwing it in the backseat with
my other boys so I just left it there and I sat
in the backseat. Our house is probably like eight
minutes away from his grandparents. I never ever
ever sit in the backseat while Christopher is
driving just so I can be right there to you know
help with the wheel or something. But that day
I did. We got literally two minutes away from
the house. We were on M15 had to turn left to
go on to Arvila and then our house was like right
there. Around M15 I pull out my phone so I could
I was looking up um signing him up for segment
two driver's training which is just such like
a wow kind of thing so I'm looking down at my
phone looking up the dates I feel the car turning
and then I hear Christopher say oh my god and
we got hit the car rolled we are in a Jeep Grand
Cherokee and they are they are really really
good for safety features I open up my eyes to
airbags and smoke and just windows and coats
everywhere. I couldn't really see. I was the
only one in the car not wearing a seatbelt. Yeah,
I saw smoke everywhere and I freaked out. I had
never been in an accident before. And so I'm
telling the kids, like I'm calling all their
names, making sure they're all responding to
me. I'm like, we got to get out of here and we're
trying to move. but we're all you know on top
of each other and there's just windows everywhere
finally my middle child he kicks the door open
there's some guys who live down the street that
were like right there they came running out to
help us they oh i can't wait till i can like
move i'm gonna go and give them the biggest dogs
oh um so my son nicholas got out My six -year
-old case, he was hanging above me and his seatbelt
was strapping him to the ceiling. He was crying,
you know, the guys helped unbuckle him, get him
out. I had to get pulled out because I couldn't
move my left leg. And I'm calling for Christopher.
And I'm calling because I thought that he was
the first to get out because his voice sounded
so distant, you know But he was in the car And
I'm calling for him and thank God he just like
shimmied out from between the the airbags and
you know came walking out of the car he was stuck
in his seat belt too and They all they all We're
just walking around the car, making sure the
people in the other car were okay. They were
totally fine. My youngest, he had some, you know,
some bruising and redness from the seatbelt.
So he got checked out and stuff, but he was okay,
thank God. And yeah, that's just the craziest
things like the fact that I never sit in the
back seat and I did that day and the only part
of the Jeep that got hit was the passenger door.
And like Nicholas, he got whipped around a lot.
If I wasn't sitting on the outside in the back
behind the passenger seat, he would have knocked
his head right on the glass, because me and him
smashed heads. So that's how I knew he was coming
in this direction. I was going in that direction.
Just so many things. I've had a really tough
lesson the last few months about learning how
to surrender and let go emotionally with so many
things. So many things that was like the takeaway
from all of that craziness and Now I feel for
me because I'm such a go -go -go Got to do this
got to fix this 26 in the fire at once This is
like a physical surrender because I literally
Know it's like, you know, can't really do anything
right now. So just healing And what were your
injuries? I want to hear them again so I can
envision them and send extra healing. Oh, thank
you. Yes. I have some bruised ribs, three fractures
on my pelvis and a broken sacrum on my left side.
Yeah. Dang. Well, we will all be sending you
lots of healing to recover very quickly. Thank
you. Yes. I appreciate that. I'm so sorry that
happened, but I know we were talking earlier
and it's so sometimes strange to, to word it
this way, but I'm getting better at it because
everyone always understands after it comes out
of my mouth. But when I'm getting ready for it,
it's like, Oh, well, I'm glad that happened that
way about your accident. And it's like, no, I
mean, like ideal situation, the ideal conditions
happened. And I, we were joking a little bit
with Mandy and I both agreed. I'm like, unfortunately,
like if someone was going to hurt, get hurt,
I know that you would want it to be you rather
than any of your children. So in that case as
well, it's like best scenario, but like, we don't
want that in the first place, but you know, it
was going to happen. It's any day of the week.
Right. It's, I find it amazing. And uh, I've
been struggling to find the words right now,
but the way that I feel when it's like you're
receiving bad news, but you still are able to
be like, well, I'm glad that that at least was
safe. And like this, like you're hearing like
all the bad things you're like, but that's a
good thing. Good thing. Okay. There's a good
thing. All right. Overall, I'm so sorry this
happened, but overall all the good things happened
that could have been. So I'm just so thankful
for that. I'm glad that you're all safe and alive.
And yes, thank you for sharing that as well.
Yeah, thank you for listening and being here
and being your awesome self. Oh, thank you. You're
welcome. Oh, it's really crazy. Have you ever
seen the movie The Cabin? Who's in it? I don't
think so. You, or no, The Shack. It's the cabin
or the shack. I don't remember but whatever I'll
find it and then I'll like send it to you through
email or something. It's incredible and I'm not
gonna give away the um like the ending or whatever
but in it this guy he he loses his daughter.
She dies in a very really sad way and so he's
angry with God. He is so angry with God and he
goes to this cabin to like essentially to kill
himself. But I just got chills in my legs. It
doesn't happen. He ends up meeting God. And you
know, it's one of the best movies ever. But the
point of me bringing this up was that he was
like, why, why would you let this happen to me?
Why would you take away such a beautiful little
tiny light in the world? You know, she was loved
so much and my life is ruined and blah, blah,
blah. And God said, I didn't do that. I helped
you in this way. I don't create car crashes.
I do interventions to make sure that no one gets
hurt. I don't cause the bad thing. I do what
I can to make the bad thing better. So when you
were just talking about that, that's just...
That's what that reminded me of. Yeah, I think
that's so true. Also, it's like. Computers are
accurate, but I mean, like they're manmade. And
when you're talking about the universe and like
literal from chaos to like order from matter
in the universe that exists. I mean, how things
work, it's just really wild. Like, how is it
possible that like other planets get humbled
by meteorites? uh and we are fairly safe go well
we have this atmosphere okay okay like that that's
convenient like it's just it's so it's just funny
it's just neat to think about things in different
ways like because i enjoy science um fascinating
but i also am like yeah but like how like where
why like what it's just it's just so funny to
think about all the other ways that things could
exist. Absolutely, 100%. And you know what's
crazy? So I've came up with this theory, right?
And you can tell me what you think about it.
But how, like, for example, I was listening to
Sarah Bressman Cosme, her books, right? A Hypnotist's
Journey to Atlantis and From the Trail to the
Star People. And in there, when she's talking
about this particular way that Lumarian culture
was from, you know, the perspectives of all of
these different people under hypnosis. Well,
in one of Dolores Cannon's books, I think it
was Dolores Cannon, it might have been somebody
else. But anyways, what they were talking about
with the Lumarian culture was like, kind of parallel,
but there were some pretty big differences. And
so it got me thinking like, Well, they're contradicting
each other, but these are from people subconscious
and obviously it's true things because they match
up with so many other people's. Again, there's
no way that's a coincidence, right? So I'm thinking
like, well, what if at that time period, person
A was on a different timeline than person B.
So their truth really is the truth to them, because
that was the life that they had lived. But you
know, after lifetimes and lifetimes of shifting
different realities, here we both are. They both
have different soul perspectives. And it's like
that, I've seen images before where they're like,
the truth depends on where you stand. And it's
like a circle from above, it looks like this.
And then it's like a spiral. And then from the
side, it looks like three lines. Like, you know
what I mean? And it's like every, like the truth
depends on like how you look at it. Like the,
what is the truth? The truth. We'll never know.
But there is a truth that exists that we do know
and we have always known. We just don't know
right now. And the part of the fun of being here
is fucking around and finding out. Yeah. So yeah,
it's just just imagining and feeling and contemplating
and existing in. It's just, it's so fun. I love
life. I just love life. Absolutely. Right there
with you. It's interesting that you brought up
Sarah Bressman and Cosme, because I just was,
I think it was yesterday I saw, and I think I
may have shared it on my story. Or no, I commented
on it. It was a recording of one of her sessions
and the woman was channeling or she was speaking,
you know from her subconscious and describing
when Basically Sarah's question was when will
love reveal the individuals that are like separating
us from truth? Essentially and she was like as
soon as people stop judging comparing seeing
Race sex and age in each other. And when love
can be given freely and openly without prejudice,
you know, like it's like, that's when we're all
going to like, remember and realize like, oh,
we, we're magic and we're supposed to be here
to create this beautiful world. And I believe
Not I believe I know that I was in Lemuria. I
was one of my first incarnations and I have Become
aware of different codes that I carry in my blueprint
from that and I Think that is for a reason So
I trust Absolutely, and I love that so much.
It's it's so beautiful because there's At this
current time in my physical reality, there are
only like a very small handful of people that
I can speak to in like the language that you're
talking right now. And just like, ooh, I love
it. Yes. Yes. It's funny. We have a lot of similarities
just in talking before we press record. We were
talking about we both had children at a young
age Mandy was 18 when she had her son and I was
17 when I had my son the different relationship
with her son's dad and Dynamics very similar
over here. We're both bio located. We're both
from Lemuria. I mean obviously we're Together
for a reason right now. So here we go Amazing
and so Over the course of like the last two years,
I've been hearing very often from multiple different
people that a lot of people who lived in Lumieria
and Atlantis at the time of its destruction are
reincarnated here now, along with all of the
people who were like, you know... Who brought
it down? The people who brought it down? The
people who let in the archons. Yeah And and you
know at the time of I had the time of Jesus I
always feel really weird when I say it in that
way, but I don't know any other way to say it
Yeah, yeah when you know was doing this thing
a lot of people who are around at that time as
well are reincarnated here now and it just obviously
no coincidences, but it's just Wild when you
have you know, multiple people, but like two
people who are like on their way to remembering
and just the conversation is like, oh, yes, but
wait, oh, there's something. Oh, this is amazing.
Yeah. Thank you. That's sort of like I was saying
earlier, those activation points, the sparks
that we carry, those codes that we all carry
in our blueprint, in our body, in our aura. And
then when we are in proximity or in connection
with each other, they illuminate. They connect
and then they send it. I love that so much. That's
so beautiful. I can see it now. So Mandy and
I were in the same container together, but we
didn't ever actually talk directly before. I
mean, I would hear you share and I shared sometimes.
I usually have my camera off. So ADHD, I cannot
sit still. And I feel like, well, I sit still
pretty well for this. Obviously, I'm Italian,
too. Never seen me use my hand. But yeah, I'm
all over the place usually when we have classes
and stuff. But I love to listen and I am absorbing
it. And I feel like a lot of the time it's best
for me to like when we would all go into the
Akashic Records together. I basically didn't
like I would be driving. I'd be doing whatever.
But I would be like, connected to the field with
all of you as well, but not actually like, you
know, doing anything. But then when later things
would drop in when it was ready, because I would
say that's another thing with the downloads that
we receive. We can ask for them to come later.
We can say, you know what, I actually am at capacity.
Please come back at this time because I can't.
Yeah. Yeah, try that. Be more direct. Yeah. Instead
of them just being like, receive this. And we're
like, Oh, yeah, right. I appreciate it, though.
We still receive it. But yeah, there's countless
revelations have been lost in the depths of my
mind while vacuuming. taking a shower. Yes, absolutely.
Oh, I feel that and oh my goodness it's so life
is so crazy because sometimes sometimes it's
like on demand I want to say as you know um like
for example I remember it was a few years ago
like so I see like Like static everywhere. Yes
same Yes, that's one of the things that I was
thinking about like that I have experienced my
entire life But I thought everyone did too like
I didn't know that that was not normal, but it's
what's that called like snow Vision or what do
they call that? I didn't know I've been searching
visual visual snow The only other person I've
ever heard talk about it as detailed as I understand
it is um, Dana the alien on Instagram at Dana
the alien. She's amazing. You would love her,
follow her. Uh, but she has a video talking about
that visual snow and that it's actually, uh,
Claire, Claire clairvoyance. Yeah. Yeah, clairvoyance.
Okay. So that is incredibly mind blowing. I had
no freaking idea. And actually it was two years
ago when I had asked Amy, um, It was like my
first reading with her ever. And, you know, I'm
telling her about what I'm experiencing, blah,
blah, and she's like, well, yeah, it is a clear
part of clairvoyance. But the whole reason why
you're experiencing it is because that you are
by located to the Pleiades. So your spectrum
of vision is wider than, you know, a lot of other
people's. Yeah. Oh, my God, I love you. That
is so cool. But I've been searching my whole
life for other people who see what I see and
that's just that is amazing I we're probably
soul sisters. I feel I feel it. It's so fun I
love connecting with with other people who who
experience things like that and often I'll get
like like especially at night or when it's dark
I mean like it happens when it's light out too,
but especially when it's dark I'll see like flashes
of light like in random, and I'm like, oh, hello.
Oh, hello. Oh, I love it so much. A lot of times
that I've been out on my back deck, when it was
dark outside, but there's the little light that's
out on the wall there. I can put my hand out,
especially if the moon is out, into the dark.
and I can see the like cyan blue and like the
purple bright bright bright bright right so it's
like gotta be a perfect type of setting for that
auric field to like really show well I started
doing that after um it was like three or probably
four years ago now um me my husband a bunch of
our friends were out just sitting on the back
deck on the ground We're all hanging out talking
whatever super nice outside and I'm sitting like
all the way in the back corner Right, and I'm
just watching everyone and I could see at the
top of everyone's heads just like little Yes,
yes, I have seen that before too Especially for
me I saw it one day at the courthouse During
a proceeding with my husband I like that It's
like, thank you. It's not mine, but I like it
too. The marble, the white marble was behind
him and I was like, you know, there's nobody
else around him and it's all bright white around
him in the background. And especially when I
see things that's in my peripheral, like it's
not always when I look straight on, but in my
peripheral I'll be able to see some auric things
or beings, I guess. It doesn't happen often,
but essentially when I feel like I see someone
in my side vision, I am seeing someone. I trust
that at this point. But I've been able to see
things that look like wavy heat, like what you
see above a fire, particulate moving very fast,
but it's static around the outline. So the only
reason I can see it is because the outline is
Staying still and I'm like what that's shaped
like a person right there. You know what I mean?
Like there's obviously a person but For years
I was told I was crazy. Anyway, um By my husband
that's why he's my husband So it's okay, I forget
where I was going with this but Earlier when
we were talking about the ability to see oh,
yeah, I could see a blue light around him I could
see a very very bright like aqua blue around
the outside of him and I was like Maybe he's
not that bad. No I was like, what does it mean?
Maybe he's good. No, I'm past that now past the
good bad thing But that was a while ago. That
was a couple years ago But I did see just yesterday
also on Instagram. I don't know who shared it,
but it was about these contact lenses that are
being developed for people to be able to see
in the dark. Oh, yes, I saw that. Did you? Okay.
So they're talking about how they work very well
for people to be able to see in the dark. But
in addition to that, they're able to see beings
that are scary and they've they're dark and they
have big glowing eyes and long fingers. And one
of them like lunged through someone's body. And
they're like, yeah, they think they're great,
but they're going to keep tweaking them until
you can't see things that other people can't.
Well, I don't know if that's a good thing or
a bad thing. Well, you know what? Back to what
I was saying. There is no good or bad. It just
is. you know what I have heard that particular
saying so many times over the last few months
and I love hearing it because it's like it just
reiterates to me like oh oh yeah okay yeah it
just is there are those beings that are not connected
to source that Feed on our loose our emotions
the energy that we produce from our physical
bodies connected with our consciousness and heart
and all of that produces a type of energy that
they eat for breakfast and That's just the way
it is that exists. I have to ask so because you
said loose I'm just curious. Have you read David
Ike's books? I have not. Oh, okay. I have not.
Is that about, is he big into the reptilians
and stuff? Is that who he's, what he does describing
that conspiracy? Like I was just saying, conspiracy.
It's not a conspiracy. It is. It is. It exists.
But yeah. Is he big on that? I don't, I'm not
familiar, like I said. He was one of the first
people back in like the 70s or 80s maybe who
came on like live television and was telling
people like no we're in a matrix and they all
like condemned him for whatever and he's written
so many books since then The Trap, The Dream,
everything you need to know or something. Um
so many books. My friend Chris Chrissy from Millington.
That's my nickname. That's my nickname. Yeah.
Yeah. Thank you. She got me all of his books
for Christmas one year. The first year that we
ever met. So sweet. And anyways, at the time,
I was going through like this huge like dark
night of the soul that lasted like six months
and I Like all of, let me just put it this way,
Journey of Souls was like my Bible, right? And
I was doing the work that I'm doing now. And
like, I felt like everything was being stripped
away from me, my beliefs, my connection, even
though, you know, you can never lose your connection.
But it feels like it sometimes. Yeah, that's
how it felt for sure. I left my business, you
know, I was just doing massage and all these
things. And Chrissy introduced me to the David
Icke books and in it he talks about Journey of
Souls. And I just, it was like taking my whole
self and just like turning it inside out and
like, okay, we'll figure out what to do now.
Yes, I've also had an experience like that. I
had a very, very rapid spiritual awakening having
to do with being consciously bio located. So
essentially, I experienced my consciousness being
taken from my body, put into another timeline.
And then I broke that jumped back into my body,
tried to interrogate the person that was with
me. He was not the person that I knew he was
How do I say it other than possessed and I don't
mean that like it was scary or he was wrong or
bad or anything was wrong or bad I just mean
literally he was a Vessel he was not the person
that I knew he was not there other people were
there with in him it was terrifying but What
what better way to see right through? The fabric
of reality than that. So yeah, after that, I
also went through a very deep, dark night of
the soul experience. And yeah. Yeah. And that's
what I like to call the slingshot. That's because
when you pull it back, how much farther it goes.
Yes. So I have a question for you. Because because
we're so similar in Let me just throw it out
here like this. I had seizures as a kid. They
couldn't figure out where it was coming from,
why I was having them. I eventually kind of like
grew out of it, but I still had petite mal seizures
is what they would call it, but come to find
out it's like, it felt like an ego death, but
I was sober and awake. Like all of a sudden I'm
super hyper aware of what I'm doing. I'm looking
at my hands like I know these aren't my hands
but they don't feel like me and having to remind
myself like okay you're Amanda Hayes you're here
this is what you're doing but I felt like if
I didn't coax myself back into staying there
I would just be my consciousness would not be
here anymore and it's fine so I was wondering
like yes yeah I totally, I totally hear what
you're saying. And while you're, while you were
saying that I did also see, I was the part of
you being like, you're Amanda Hayes come back.
You know what I mean? Like it's like, that's
you here. Um, that was them helping you to come
back into that. Um, I saw your higher self coming
in and also like a different aspect, like trying
to take you. And there is, I think, so are you,
are you part of the secret space program? I don't
like with my bi -located self. Yeah, or do you
think it's When I tap into her sometimes sometimes
she's like At home and it kind of looks like
Africa and you know And then other times she's
in a suit and she's like doing things like one
time she was in the ocean Another time she was
in a ship, you know, so yeah That is what you
met or not that well, yeah um so there is definitely
you're connected to the level of consciousness
with the it's you but it wouldn't exist without
your consciousness from here that's why it's
so connected it's not another life it's not a
past life which we also know are not in the past
everything's now it's a it's a split it's a separation
that exists from the source that is you and it's
that's not common The experiences that I had
for a number of years from the age of 21 to about
23, I had syncope, which is random loss of consciousness.
What? Yeah, I would just pass out. Oh, wow. And
I think that was me leaving, going to other places.
Yeah. Yeah. Um, and I've also recognized our
health and the way that our body reacts as not
being able to be defined by medical science.
Like I also have a tumor in my brain that's like
basically between my brain and my brain, my cerebellum.
So it's like your brain here and then your cerebellum
here. It's between them. So Nobody's been able
to identify what it is. It hasn't changed in
over 10 years. I just recently got an MRI to
check on it. It hasn't changed from the work
that I'm doing with a guide helping me with the
secret space program aspects, which is that for
me is why I'm bio located. It's an implant. It's
an energetic implant, but it's also physical.
And it does have to do with the modulation regulation
of my energy transmission capabilities. So essentially
what I was told is it was in order to keep my,
keep my ability to transmit frequencies dampened
down, like at a smaller radius. You know what
I mean? So that's fun. Like sake, you know, I
think I I think it's because I would affect a
much larger area in a in a greater capacity if
it wasn't turned down So I think we should turn
it the fuck up That sounds like a good thing.
Yeah. Well, I'm not dealing with good people
It's not a good thing. But yeah, it is fascinating.
And I'd also want to say from a grounded perspective,
for us to have these understandings of different
versions of ourselves, I find it to be incredibly
helpful for my mental health and understanding
and practice. It's like my version of therapy.
And I also go to therapy. and my therapist is
in total agreement with me. She's like, you're
great. So I don't, you know, it's funny because
personally, and I would like to ask you this
question because of our similarities, but have
you ever had circumstances where people are like,
you're just crazy and like called you crazy and
like didn't listen to you and like, you know,
Well, first of all, I did want to say, because
of our similarities, I don't have a tumor right
here, but when they were doing MRIs and CAT scans
when I was having seizures when I was younger,
they found that it's like a spindle -looking
wheel thing of veins that's all bundled up right
here in that same spot that you were talking
about. Is it like the mouth of God chakra, like
right in the back of your head? Yeah. Oh, boy.
When you said that, I was like, that's really
weird. But also, yes, absolutely. Not recently,
but now I don't really see a whole lot of people
unless they're clients and if their clients are
coming to me to talk about all of these things.
Oh, back in the day with my more relationship
type stuff, yes. you're crazy i don't even what
are you talking about yeah the gas lighting and
all that i think that's part of the programming
with it too i mean i would if you feel inclined
look up some things on the secret space program
some of it can be very extreme some of it can
be very destabilizing and it's not that you wouldn't
understand it but it's like what it has generated
for me is like, why? Why me? Why am I in this?
Why? Why? You know? Oh, absolutely. And you know
what's crazy? I just remembered a few months
ago, I was talking with my best friend, sister
Brandy, about an experience that I had had. Sometimes
like I'll randomly pick up my phone. It doesn't
happen very often, but I'll pick up my phone
and it will have the wrong date in the wrong
time on my phone. And that happened one time
back in 2011. In 2011, I picked up my phone and
it said December 21st, 2011 at like 2 p .m. or
something like that. And I'm like, what the fuck
is that? So I was just coming into like learning
about all of these different things and I found
it super interesting. So I wrote that date down.
I keep that was when I kept like journals and
stuff, which I still have all of them. I, it
was like a year or so ago, I went and was looking
up. Oh, I was listening to sorry I was listening
to it like an audio book or a podcast and this
woman was talking about how I think it was from
Dolores Cannon, she would go. and receive messages
to like go outside at particular times for like,
you know, for people from the space program or
whatever to like come and like, oh, you need
to be at this meeting at this time. And one of
the times she had said was the time that I wrote
down that I got on my phone, swear on everything.
And I told Brandy about it. And I'm like sitting
here shaking like, this is crazy. It was forever
ago. And obviously I don't think anything came
of that, but it was just, it was super. Yeah.
That is giving me some tingly feelings. So I
would say that that's right. That is very interesting.
Isn't it? It's very crazy. I know it is. I'm
looking at the time right now on our call. It's
1, 11, 23. So I like that. But I know that you
have an appointment to go to. I also have an
appointment to go to We definitely need to talk
again. This has been such an amazing conversation,
and I'm so glad we connected. Thank you so much,
Mandy. Thank you so much, Christine. I really
appreciate you. You were so easy to talk to.
This was so much fun. Thank you. And I, we will
be talking again. I'll send you another link
as soon as we get off of here. I hope you have
a wonderful day, lots of healing and learning
and expanding and surrendering up for you. Right.
I appreciate you. I hope you have a great rest
of your day. Thank you so much. Thanks. Bye.
Thank Mandy truly for showing up in the middle
of her recovery in the middle of life. and still
being willing to share your heart and your perspective.
I feel like this conversation had so many little
spark points, those little moments where something
inside you goes, yes, that, I remember that too.
And if you're listening and you felt that too,
just know you're not alone. Sometimes the medicine
of an episode isn't even the words, it's the
frequency of what's being witnessed and reflected.
Remembering yourself through someone else's language.
If you want to connect with Mandy and her work
you can find her at Lemon Sage and Lavender.
It's where you can learn more about her offerings
including tarot and aura readings, energy work,
soul alignment sessions, and body work. If you
would like to connect with me I'm at Hyacinth
Healing. As always thank you for being here.
Thank you for listening. And thank you for walking
this strange, beautiful remembering with us.
I'll see you in the next episode.