WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.700 Welcome to the Deep Dive. Today, we're looking 00:00:02.700 --> 00:00:04.799 into something really interesting from Dexter 00:00:04.799 --> 00:00:08.800 Monroe LLC. It's their vision for Industry 5 00:00:08.800 --> 00:00:12.060 .0. Right. And they're framing it as much more 00:00:12.060 --> 00:00:15.039 than just, you know, the next tech wave. Exactly. 00:00:15.279 --> 00:00:17.140 They talk about initiatives like the Trimborne 00:00:17.140 --> 00:00:19.600 Farm and this specific thing called the Braided 00:00:19.600 --> 00:00:23.100 Weave Protocol. So our mission today is to unpack 00:00:23.100 --> 00:00:25.559 how they see industry making a pretty fundamental 00:00:25.559 --> 00:00:29.929 shift. Moving focus beyond just efficiency. Towards 00:00:29.929 --> 00:00:32.609 people, the planet, resilience, that kind of 00:00:32.609 --> 00:00:34.710 thing. Yeah. Focusing on us, on sustainability 00:00:34.710 --> 00:00:37.369 and like building systems that can actually handle 00:00:37.369 --> 00:00:39.530 uncertainty and maybe even thrive on it. Seems 00:00:39.530 --> 00:00:41.310 like a tall order. It's definitely ambitious. 00:00:41.630 --> 00:00:43.570 How do you even start shifting an entire industry's 00:00:43.570 --> 00:00:46.939 mindset like that? Let's dig in. Okay, so we've 00:00:46.939 --> 00:00:49.359 all heard about Industry 4 .0. Lots of automation, 00:00:49.600 --> 00:00:52.299 connectivity, data. Sure. The smart factory idea. 00:00:52.520 --> 00:00:55.460 Right. So what is Industry 5 .0, according to 00:00:55.460 --> 00:00:58.380 Dexter Munro? Is it just 4 .0 plus some new bells 00:00:58.380 --> 00:01:00.119 and whistles, or is there a real difference? 00:01:00.460 --> 00:01:03.479 Yeah. That's a key point. They see it less as 00:01:03.479 --> 00:01:06.719 just the next step chronologically and more as 00:01:06.719 --> 00:01:10.359 a complementary evolution. It's really about 00:01:10.359 --> 00:01:13.140 reorienting the purpose of industry. Reorienting 00:01:13.140 --> 00:01:16.680 purpose. How so? Well, moving beyond just maximizing 00:01:16.680 --> 00:01:19.159 efficiency or shareholder returns. It's about 00:01:19.159 --> 00:01:21.659 reinforcing industry's role, its responsibilities 00:01:21.659 --> 00:01:24.680 within society. They define it with three core 00:01:24.680 --> 00:01:27.680 ideas that work together. Human centricity, sustainability, 00:01:27.900 --> 00:01:32.269 and resilience. Okay. And the really deep implication 00:01:32.269 --> 00:01:35.670 here is that shift away from purely shareholder 00:01:35.670 --> 00:01:38.709 focus, you know, where economic value is king 00:01:38.709 --> 00:01:41.510 and workers adapted towards a stakeholder value 00:01:41.510 --> 00:01:44.890 model. So thinking about societal well -being, 00:01:44.969 --> 00:01:47.409 planetary health and technology serving the worker, 00:01:47.530 --> 00:01:49.890 augmenting human creativity, it's less about 00:01:49.890 --> 00:01:51.689 replacing people, more about empowering them. 00:01:51.900 --> 00:01:53.799 That does sound like a fundamental rewire, not 00:01:53.799 --> 00:01:55.719 just tweaking things. Exactly. It's changing 00:01:55.719 --> 00:01:57.560 the corporate DNA, essentially. But practically 00:01:57.560 --> 00:01:59.120 speaking, I mean, that's a big philosophical 00:01:59.120 --> 00:02:01.700 jump for companies used to the old model. What 00:02:01.700 --> 00:02:03.400 does this actually look like day to day? How 00:02:03.400 --> 00:02:06.140 do these principles, you know, show up in practice? 00:02:06.519 --> 00:02:10.430 Good question. So take human centricity. Think 00:02:10.430 --> 00:02:13.710 collaborative robots, cobots. They handled the 00:02:13.710 --> 00:02:16.870 strenuous repetitive tasks, which frees up human 00:02:16.870 --> 00:02:19.509 workers for things needing creativity, critical 00:02:19.509 --> 00:02:22.729 thinking, complex problem solving. And it includes 00:02:22.729 --> 00:02:25.509 investing in people, too, like using VR or AR 00:02:25.509 --> 00:02:28.889 for upskilling so you can adapt. Got it. And 00:02:28.889 --> 00:02:31.349 sustainability. On sustainability, it's pushing 00:02:31.349 --> 00:02:34.250 beyond just. kicking compliance boxes. It's about 00:02:34.250 --> 00:02:37.530 designing regenerative systems. Regenerative. 00:02:37.610 --> 00:02:40.330 Yeah. Circular economy ideas. Waste from one 00:02:40.330 --> 00:02:43.449 process becomes fuel for another. AI helps optimize 00:02:43.449 --> 00:02:45.849 resource use. They give this example of precision 00:02:45.849 --> 00:02:48.449 agriculture. Oh, right. I saw that. Yeah. Potentially 00:02:48.449 --> 00:02:51.310 cutting chemical use by like 90%, water by 20%. 00:02:51.310 --> 00:02:53.110 It's about aiming for a net positive impact, 00:02:53.270 --> 00:02:55.770 not just less harm. Okay. Huge potential there. 00:02:55.870 --> 00:02:58.229 And the third one, resilience. Resilience. And 00:02:58.229 --> 00:02:59.889 this isn't just about being tough or bouncing 00:02:59.889 --> 00:03:02.430 back. It's the capacity to withstand disruption, 00:03:02.810 --> 00:03:05.990 adapt, and crucially, emerge stronger. Anti -fragile, 00:03:05.990 --> 00:03:09.069 kind of. Exactly the term they use. Anti -fragility. 00:03:09.150 --> 00:03:12.969 And that relies heavily on tech, like IoT sensors, 00:03:13.250 --> 00:03:16.469 AI for prediction, real -time data feeding into 00:03:16.469 --> 00:03:19.550 adaptive supply chains. Proactive, not just reactive. 00:03:19.830 --> 00:03:21.949 And you mentioned these are interconnected. Absolutely 00:03:21.949 --> 00:03:24.210 critical. They aren't separate pillars you pick 00:03:24.210 --> 00:03:26.939 and choose from. They reinforce each other. You 00:03:26.939 --> 00:03:29.740 need resilience for sustainability. Human centricity 00:03:29.740 --> 00:03:31.759 helps build resilience and so on. It's a system. 00:03:31.819 --> 00:03:34.259 That interconnectedness, that systems thinking, 00:03:34.500 --> 00:03:38.360 sounds complex to manage. How do they actually 00:03:38.360 --> 00:03:40.840 operationalize this? How do they weave it all 00:03:40.840 --> 00:03:43.219 together without it becoming just a nice idea 00:03:43.219 --> 00:03:45.039 on paper? Right. That's where this proprietary 00:03:45.039 --> 00:03:47.300 braided weave protocol comes in. Think of it 00:03:47.300 --> 00:03:48.900 as their operating system for putting Industry 00:03:48.900 --> 00:03:52.060 5 .0 into action. Okay. Interestingly, its architecture 00:03:52.060 --> 00:03:55.319 adapts an idea from the U .S. Marine Corps. Commander's 00:03:55.319 --> 00:03:57.979 intent. Really? Military doctrine. Yeah, but 00:03:57.979 --> 00:04:00.419 the principle is powerful. It gives everyone 00:04:00.419 --> 00:04:03.340 involved the clear purpose, the desired end state, 00:04:03.439 --> 00:04:06.539 the strategic why. So teams on the ground are 00:04:06.539 --> 00:04:09.099 empowered to make smart decisions, to adapt and 00:04:09.099 --> 00:04:11.259 innovate locally, because they know the overall 00:04:11.259 --> 00:04:14.800 goal. It builds agility right in. Interesting. 00:04:14.879 --> 00:04:17.560 So what are the strands of this weave? It has 00:04:17.560 --> 00:04:20.079 three main strands working together. First is 00:04:20.079 --> 00:04:23.279 synergistic ecosystems. This uses what they call 00:04:23.279 --> 00:04:26.120 a quad helix model. Quad helix. Industry, academia, 00:04:26.480 --> 00:04:29.180 government, and the community, all working together, 00:04:29.240 --> 00:04:32.319 bringing different strengths. Second, verifiable 00:04:32.319 --> 00:04:35.319 transparency. This uses distributed ledger technology, 00:04:35.620 --> 00:04:38.060 think blockchain, for immutable records. Like 00:04:38.060 --> 00:04:40.620 for supply chains. Exactly. Imagine scanning 00:04:40.620 --> 00:04:44.100 a QR code on, say, food, seeing its entire verified 00:04:44.100 --> 00:04:47.689 journey. Seed, farm. processing, transport, shelf, 00:04:47.829 --> 00:04:50.569 builds incredible trust. Wow, okay. And the third 00:04:50.569 --> 00:04:53.069 strand is predictive intelligence, an AI -powered 00:04:53.069 --> 00:04:55.449 sensor network, maybe drones with special cameras, 00:04:55.689 --> 00:04:57.870 ground sensors collecting real -time data. This 00:04:57.870 --> 00:04:59.970 gives proactive insights like spawning crop stress 00:04:59.970 --> 00:05:01.970 before you could see it with your eyes. So these 00:05:01.970 --> 00:05:04.790 strands constantly feed each other, sensing, 00:05:05.089 --> 00:05:08.189 understanding, acting. Precisely, a continuous 00:05:08.189 --> 00:05:10.910 feedback loop. Okay, that's the theory, the blueprint. 00:05:11.550 --> 00:05:13.889 Where can we actually see this happening? Is 00:05:13.889 --> 00:05:16.550 there a real -world example? Yes. The Trimborne 00:05:16.550 --> 00:05:18.750 Farm Redevelopment Project is their main showcase, 00:05:19.029 --> 00:05:21.310 their living laboratory. Trimborne Farm. And 00:05:21.310 --> 00:05:23.889 it's not just a farm. It's designed as this multipurpose 00:05:23.889 --> 00:05:26.430 ecosystem. You've got the precision agriculture 00:05:26.430 --> 00:05:29.389 side -by -side with a transparent local food 00:05:29.389 --> 00:05:32.990 hub, an education center, community spaces. It's 00:05:32.990 --> 00:05:35.230 all integrated. How is it structured? They're 00:05:35.230 --> 00:05:37.810 using a specific partnership model called a Community 00:05:37.810 --> 00:05:41.680 -Based Public -Private Partnership, CBP3. So 00:05:41.680 --> 00:05:44.399 community revitalization goals are baked right 00:05:44.399 --> 00:05:47.040 into the project's DNA. So it's not just about 00:05:47.040 --> 00:05:49.560 the tech or the business model. Not at all. It's 00:05:49.560 --> 00:05:52.279 generating what they call a human dividend, creating 00:05:52.279 --> 00:05:55.100 new skilled jobs, locally drone pilots, data 00:05:55.100 --> 00:05:57.180 analysts and partnering with academic institutions 00:05:57.180 --> 00:06:00.660 to upskill the existing workforce. It really 00:06:00.660 --> 00:06:03.319 aims to be that microcosm of the whole industry 00:06:03.319 --> 00:06:06.579 5 .0 vision. So pulling it all together, Dexter 00:06:06.579 --> 00:06:09.600 Monroe's vision, this braided weave protocol. 00:06:10.699 --> 00:06:12.279 It really seems like they're trying to build 00:06:12.279 --> 00:06:14.879 a fundamentally different model where economic 00:06:14.879 --> 00:06:17.120 value, social benefit and environmental health 00:06:17.120 --> 00:06:19.839 are, well, braided together. That's the core 00:06:19.839 --> 00:06:23.360 idea, redefining success. And they see the braided 00:06:23.360 --> 00:06:25.860 weave not just for farms, but as a replicable 00:06:25.860 --> 00:06:28.579 blueprint. Scalable. Scalable, yeah. For smart 00:06:28.579 --> 00:06:31.060 city development, health care systems, maybe 00:06:31.060 --> 00:06:33.980 large environmental restoration projects, a methodology 00:06:33.980 --> 00:06:37.180 for complex, multi -stakeholder challenges. So 00:06:37.180 --> 00:06:39.279 wrapping up, what does this all mean for you 00:06:39.279 --> 00:06:41.519 listening? It leaves you with a pretty provocative 00:06:41.519 --> 00:06:43.759 thought, doesn't it? What if more industries 00:06:43.759 --> 00:06:46.439 genuinely re -centered their purpose, focused 00:06:46.439 --> 00:06:49.079 squarely on human well -being, on planetary health? 00:06:49.240 --> 00:06:51.300 What if we built these anti -fragile systems 00:06:51.300 --> 00:06:53.899 that actually learn and get stronger from challenges? 00:06:54.139 --> 00:06:56.259 What kind of future would you want to help build 00:06:56.259 --> 00:06:57.160 with that kind of thinking?