WEBVTT 00:00:26.240 --> 00:00:29.519 Welcome to E Pluribus Unum. the podcast where 00:00:29.519 --> 00:00:32.399 we dive deeper into the hive mind. This is for 00:00:32.399 --> 00:00:36.359 episode four entitled, Please, Carol. What are 00:00:36.359 --> 00:00:40.020 your overall thoughts on this one so far? Overall, 00:00:40.619 --> 00:00:45.200 I enjoyed the episode. I feel like it was a blend 00:00:45.200 --> 00:00:48.920 of episode three and episodes one and two. We 00:00:48.920 --> 00:00:52.299 get some of the mystery, but we also learn more 00:00:52.299 --> 00:00:56.439 about Carol's character. deeply, in fact. So 00:00:56.439 --> 00:00:59.859 I think it hit on all cylinders for me for a 00:00:59.859 --> 00:01:04.140 Pluribus episode and the show has yet to disappoint. 00:01:04.719 --> 00:01:06.760 Yeah, I agree. I think this was a really great 00:01:06.760 --> 00:01:10.420 episode. I think it rivals episode one in my 00:01:10.420 --> 00:01:13.359 mind as far as how much I enjoyed it. And I just 00:01:13.359 --> 00:01:16.040 wanted to highlight again here, this might be 00:01:16.040 --> 00:01:19.469 Ray Seahorn's best performance yet and that's 00:01:19.469 --> 00:01:21.390 saying something because she's been so immaculate 00:01:21.390 --> 00:01:24.250 in the first three episodes, but I was just really 00:01:24.250 --> 00:01:26.489 pulled in. I just want to point out whomever 00:01:26.489 --> 00:01:29.810 did the animation for the title sequence did 00:01:29.810 --> 00:01:34.549 a marvelous job and the musician that they hired 00:01:34.549 --> 00:01:39.790 to do the introductory and closing songs did 00:01:39.790 --> 00:01:41.670 a marvelous job as well. I wish we could use 00:01:41.670 --> 00:01:44.609 them for our show and maybe we'll just have to 00:01:44.609 --> 00:01:47.719 ask permission and see if they'll let us. Absolutely. 00:01:47.900 --> 00:01:51.239 Yeah, the opening sequence is minimalist, but 00:01:51.239 --> 00:01:54.060 there's still so much going on and you see all 00:01:54.060 --> 00:01:57.140 these sort of nodes as they're pushing outwards 00:01:57.140 --> 00:01:59.799 in almost a signal like fashion. I think it really 00:01:59.799 --> 00:02:02.519 works with the themes of the show and a piece 00:02:02.519 --> 00:02:05.799 of that psychic glue in action as a scientist 00:02:05.799 --> 00:02:08.340 might see it or you see it on some sort of instrument. 00:02:08.620 --> 00:02:11.500 So very awesome. And oh boy, that opening theme 00:02:11.500 --> 00:02:14.240 song is quite catchy as well. We have another 00:02:14.240 --> 00:02:19.009 classic cold open from Vince and his crew for 00:02:19.009 --> 00:02:22.729 this episode and we actually get introduced to 00:02:22.729 --> 00:02:26.229 our new character from Paraguay and we get to 00:02:26.229 --> 00:02:30.330 see his side of the telephone conversation that 00:02:30.330 --> 00:02:32.169 Carol had with him when she was on the plane. 00:02:32.830 --> 00:02:38.629 So we have Menusos Oviedo and he is working a 00:02:38.629 --> 00:02:42.770 ham radio and he's dialing it in on channel seven 00:02:42.770 --> 00:02:45.289 point one two nine and then he turns an egg timer 00:02:45.289 --> 00:02:48.110 to two minutes and he waits and listens to the 00:02:48.110 --> 00:02:51.330 static and We doesn't get a response He switches 00:02:51.330 --> 00:02:53.310 to the next channel and you could see he's going 00:02:53.310 --> 00:02:56.669 through a series of channels and he lands on 00:02:56.669 --> 00:03:00.710 seven point one three two Begins the egg timer 00:03:00.710 --> 00:03:04.909 and listen so you can see here that He is a clever 00:03:04.909 --> 00:03:07.849 person. He is trying to reach out to other people 00:03:07.849 --> 00:03:10.879 that aren't joined or whatever he thinks this 00:03:10.879 --> 00:03:13.000 situation is because he obviously is in the dark 00:03:13.000 --> 00:03:16.560 totally in this and I like that a lot. He's either 00:03:16.560 --> 00:03:19.960 the manager or an owner of a storage facility 00:03:19.960 --> 00:03:23.979 in Paraguay and you could see that he's coming 00:03:23.979 --> 00:03:27.560 down to the end of what he has for rations and 00:03:27.560 --> 00:03:31.060 that the joined have been dropping food off at 00:03:31.060 --> 00:03:33.979 the gate for him and he's been refusing the food 00:03:33.979 --> 00:03:37.099 even though he's obviously starving. But what 00:03:37.099 --> 00:03:41.120 he does instead is he decides to write an apology 00:03:41.120 --> 00:03:44.460 letter to the people that own any of the items 00:03:44.460 --> 00:03:47.479 in the storage unit to say that he needed to 00:03:47.479 --> 00:03:50.780 open them up and he is searching for food. And 00:03:50.780 --> 00:03:55.219 he does find food technically. For me, this is 00:03:55.219 --> 00:03:59.819 a gross out scene. I watch horror films. I watch 00:03:59.819 --> 00:04:03.520 action films. But when you have a person reduced 00:04:03.520 --> 00:04:07.539 to opening up a can of dog food, and eating it. 00:04:08.780 --> 00:04:11.120 And again, whomever they chose for this actor 00:04:11.120 --> 00:04:15.599 nails it. I could taste the dog food. It was 00:04:15.599 --> 00:04:20.319 just awful and gross, but he was willing to endure. 00:04:20.959 --> 00:04:23.519 And as he's dealing with this dog food situation, 00:04:23.519 --> 00:04:25.899 we now get to catch up to the point to where 00:04:25.899 --> 00:04:29.100 Carol starts her multiple calls to him, up to 00:04:29.100 --> 00:04:31.100 and including the final statement to him where 00:04:31.100 --> 00:04:34.279 she literally says in Spanish, go fuck your mother, 00:04:34.399 --> 00:04:38.350 asshole. and hangs up, and I'm so pleased with 00:04:38.350 --> 00:04:41.230 his response because it was exactly what I was 00:04:41.230 --> 00:04:43.610 hoping would happen. I could see in his face 00:04:43.610 --> 00:04:47.870 that he realized, oh, she's not one of them, 00:04:48.230 --> 00:04:50.350 so much so that he even writes her name down 00:04:50.350 --> 00:04:53.389 for what he believes he heard. And that becomes 00:04:53.389 --> 00:04:56.350 the conclusion of that cold open. So another 00:04:56.350 --> 00:04:59.509 epic cold open from the Vince Gilligan team. 00:04:59.850 --> 00:05:02.709 Yeah, I enjoyed the cold open on this one as 00:05:02.709 --> 00:05:06.769 well. It was great to finally see Manousos as 00:05:06.769 --> 00:05:09.529 he's going about his day and encountering some 00:05:09.529 --> 00:05:12.589 of the problems that come along with how he's 00:05:12.589 --> 00:05:15.290 decided to react to the hive mind. He almost 00:05:15.290 --> 00:05:18.550 seems more skeptical and possibly even more afraid 00:05:18.550 --> 00:05:22.050 than Carol is in his reaction to the hive mind. 00:05:22.170 --> 00:05:24.870 And he treats it almost like you would a traditional 00:05:24.870 --> 00:05:28.529 virus. He isolates himself. He doesn't go near 00:05:28.529 --> 00:05:30.889 anyone. He doesn't accept the food from the hive 00:05:30.889 --> 00:05:33.410 mind, despite how delicious that looked. He's 00:05:33.410 --> 00:05:36.209 incredibly skeptical and that drives him to open 00:05:36.209 --> 00:05:39.250 those storage units and find that dog food. And, 00:05:39.370 --> 00:05:41.430 oh boy, that was a, like you mentioned, a tough 00:05:41.430 --> 00:05:43.870 scene to watch, certainly. But after he gets 00:05:43.870 --> 00:05:46.709 the call from Carol, he writes something interesting 00:05:46.709 --> 00:05:50.790 down. Uh, La Turca, Carol S. La Turca. And I 00:05:50.790 --> 00:05:52.269 did some digging on this one. There's a quite 00:05:52.269 --> 00:05:56.060 a few different. meanings in the colloquial sense 00:05:56.060 --> 00:05:59.339 as well of La Terca. The one I found that that 00:05:59.339 --> 00:06:01.860 really fit it the most was given as a compliment 00:06:01.860 --> 00:06:07.379 to women when they are cunning or clever or resourceful. 00:06:07.680 --> 00:06:12.079 So it's almost him realizing that Carol after 00:06:12.079 --> 00:06:14.360 she cusses him out, Oh, this is a real person. 00:06:14.480 --> 00:06:18.079 And almost that. She didn't custom out solely 00:06:18.079 --> 00:06:20.360 because she was angry but possibly custom out 00:06:20.360 --> 00:06:23.319 so that he would recognize that and that Gives 00:06:23.319 --> 00:06:26.100 a bit of cleverness to what she did So whether 00:06:26.100 --> 00:06:28.120 she did that on purpose or not, we'll find out 00:06:28.120 --> 00:06:30.279 but at the very least it got Manusos thinking 00:06:30.279 --> 00:06:34.040 that Carol could potentially be someone of the 00:06:34.040 --> 00:06:38.199 same mind as him Well, we watched episode 3 and 00:06:38.199 --> 00:06:40.699 I had a couple of my theories fall to the wayside, 00:06:40.699 --> 00:06:44.670 but one theory I had in the interim was because 00:06:44.670 --> 00:06:47.269 she cursed him out, will he realize she's not 00:06:47.269 --> 00:06:49.970 part of the hive mind and will he do something 00:06:49.970 --> 00:06:52.230 different? And it looks like that's the direction 00:06:52.230 --> 00:06:54.689 they're going in and I'm pleased with that. And 00:06:54.689 --> 00:06:56.589 I think throughout this episode, a couple of 00:06:56.589 --> 00:06:59.470 our theories are either confirmed or denied in 00:06:59.470 --> 00:07:02.430 a pretty definite way. So that's pretty cool. 00:07:02.750 --> 00:07:04.860 I think this really brings us. perfectly into 00:07:04.860 --> 00:07:07.100 the next sequence here where we jump back in 00:07:07.100 --> 00:07:10.259 with Carol as she's leaving the hospital and 00:07:10.259 --> 00:07:13.420 she steals a sheriff's car. I believe it is to 00:07:13.420 --> 00:07:16.240 get home. Uh, and I'll say this too, you know, 00:07:17.060 --> 00:07:21.319 you can't steal anything anymore. No one owns 00:07:21.319 --> 00:07:25.480 anything anymore. So if you want air force one, 00:07:25.600 --> 00:07:28.600 you get our air force one. If you want the state 00:07:28.600 --> 00:07:30.860 police car, you just jump in a state police car 00:07:30.860 --> 00:07:32.920 and start driving. They even ask her, did you 00:07:32.920 --> 00:07:37.259 enjoy your. police car. So let's add another 00:07:37.259 --> 00:07:40.139 layer to our concept here. There's no theft in 00:07:40.139 --> 00:07:42.480 the world anymore. There's no reason to steal 00:07:42.480 --> 00:07:45.420 in the world anymore. Everything is fully taken 00:07:45.420 --> 00:07:49.120 care of. And we even learned about how well they 00:07:49.120 --> 00:07:52.920 do take care of those that have suffered a little 00:07:52.920 --> 00:07:58.279 bit later on. But she jumps into the state police 00:07:58.279 --> 00:08:01.209 car and drives on down the road. Her goal is 00:08:01.209 --> 00:08:03.350 to get back home. She does and she sees that 00:08:03.350 --> 00:08:07.170 the joined are they're doing their cleanup She 00:08:07.170 --> 00:08:11.670 allows them to do so and we meet Larry who is 00:08:11.670 --> 00:08:15.629 one of the folks helping out and She calls him 00:08:15.629 --> 00:08:18.730 shorty, which is hilarious because he's obviously 00:08:18.730 --> 00:08:21.990 six four six five or something like that And 00:08:21.990 --> 00:08:24.490 even when she says hey shorty, he's literally 00:08:24.490 --> 00:08:26.750 standing next to a woman. That's probably about 00:08:26.750 --> 00:08:30.000 four and a half feet tall Prior to her requesting 00:08:30.000 --> 00:08:33.120 Shorty comes back with her, she goes in and begins 00:08:33.120 --> 00:08:36.600 something I do quite a bit, which is a whiteboarding 00:08:36.600 --> 00:08:39.620 session. That's how I always like to throw my 00:08:39.620 --> 00:08:41.960 thoughts at the wall literally. And the first 00:08:41.960 --> 00:08:44.600 thing that she sees across this whiteboard is 00:08:44.600 --> 00:08:48.320 the outline or at least some ideas of her fifth 00:08:48.320 --> 00:08:54.379 Waikaro novel. And she notably purposefully doesn't 00:08:54.379 --> 00:08:58.360 erase it as well. Whether that is it reminds 00:08:58.360 --> 00:09:00.899 her of Helen or she still sees some value in 00:09:00.899 --> 00:09:02.940 it But the thing that was highlighted for me 00:09:02.940 --> 00:09:06.379 was in all bold letters. It said love potion 00:09:06.379 --> 00:09:09.480 exclamation point And of course a love potion 00:09:09.480 --> 00:09:12.879 is something that forces you into love with someone 00:09:12.879 --> 00:09:15.740 else. So very similar to the hive mind I'm sure 00:09:15.740 --> 00:09:19.320 there are folks that are now forced into loving 00:09:19.320 --> 00:09:22.100 everyone and loving people outside of the hive 00:09:22.100 --> 00:09:25.220 mind as well so certainly something to think 00:09:25.220 --> 00:09:27.899 about and it sort of goes back to some of my 00:09:27.899 --> 00:09:30.820 ideas early on in episode one where you know 00:09:30.820 --> 00:09:34.000 they're initially transmuting this RNA sequence 00:09:34.000 --> 00:09:38.220 via saliva and kissing and how that connection 00:09:38.220 --> 00:09:43.600 is what we utilize as humans prior to the psychic 00:09:43.600 --> 00:09:47.669 glue to connect to other people is kissing or 00:09:47.669 --> 00:09:51.409 a physical affection and love. So again, just 00:09:51.409 --> 00:09:54.250 playing into those same themes of the hive mind, 00:09:54.789 --> 00:09:58.750 forced love, and what we as humans use to connect 00:09:58.750 --> 00:10:02.330 when we don't have the psychic glue. And, you 00:10:02.330 --> 00:10:04.490 know, you mentioned one of my favorite guys in 00:10:04.490 --> 00:10:07.450 this episode, Larry, who she calls shorty. There's 00:10:07.450 --> 00:10:10.370 a very subtle portion here where she calls out 00:10:10.370 --> 00:10:15.269 shorty as well, because when we see shorty come 00:10:15.269 --> 00:10:17.809 forward after she calls him she says hey you 00:10:17.809 --> 00:10:20.710 shorty come here we do see it it is tall larry 00:10:20.710 --> 00:10:22.990 that comes over and not the very short woman 00:10:22.990 --> 00:10:27.570 and that signifies that now they have learned 00:10:27.570 --> 00:10:30.850 sarcasm and they understand sarcasm at this point 00:10:30.850 --> 00:10:33.769 it's very subtle and it was a question we had 00:10:33.769 --> 00:10:36.830 after last episode in the hand grenade but at 00:10:36.830 --> 00:10:40.740 this point they have learned That she said that 00:10:40.740 --> 00:10:43.379 sarcastically and it is now the tall person as 00:10:43.379 --> 00:10:46.360 opposed to the short person that comes over again 00:10:46.360 --> 00:10:49.879 something very subtle, but it's not meaningless 00:10:49.879 --> 00:10:56.639 I Could put in there that he is the individual 00:10:56.639 --> 00:11:00.360 interacting with her more directly than Even 00:11:00.360 --> 00:11:03.139 the mayor that's cleaning her driveway there 00:11:03.139 --> 00:11:08.409 the fucking mayor as she says So I don't know 00:11:08.409 --> 00:11:12.750 if that's necessarily true or that they are learning 00:11:12.750 --> 00:11:15.230 or changing their ability it could simply be 00:11:15.230 --> 00:11:17.730 that he was the one interacting with her first 00:11:17.730 --> 00:11:22.049 and They just assumed he she called him shorty 00:11:22.049 --> 00:11:25.470 and and went that way but to bounce back to your 00:11:25.470 --> 00:11:30.250 whiteboard with the Bacario notes. I noticed 00:11:30.250 --> 00:11:33.070 a handful of those things in there as well She 00:11:33.070 --> 00:11:35.850 did hesitate to wipe the board and I thought 00:11:35.850 --> 00:11:38.509 that was pretty cool because it could be the 00:11:38.509 --> 00:11:41.389 writer in her It could be Helen as you mentioned 00:11:41.389 --> 00:11:44.529 But she pushes it off to the side to open up 00:11:44.529 --> 00:11:47.809 a new whiteboard that says what do I know about 00:11:47.809 --> 00:11:50.929 them? And she goes through a list of five things. 00:11:50.929 --> 00:11:54.370 She says they are eager to please they cannot 00:11:54.370 --> 00:11:57.870 kill they don't play favorites They are trying 00:11:57.870 --> 00:12:00.370 to change me." And she has this starred several 00:12:00.370 --> 00:12:04.929 times. And then five is a question, weirdly honest 00:12:04.929 --> 00:12:10.730 question mark. And I think that helps a lot of 00:12:10.730 --> 00:12:14.570 folks who are watching the show tally up maybe 00:12:14.570 --> 00:12:17.669 their own thoughts, but also what Carol's thoughts 00:12:17.669 --> 00:12:20.970 are at this particular time. That's when she 00:12:20.970 --> 00:12:23.649 procures Larry and they go back inside and we 00:12:23.649 --> 00:12:27.600 have almost an interrogation scene here. It seems 00:12:27.600 --> 00:12:30.820 as though the purpose of this interrogation is 00:12:30.820 --> 00:12:36.240 to determine if the hive mind can lie to her. 00:12:36.779 --> 00:12:38.820 And when we talk about the Larry interrogation 00:12:38.820 --> 00:12:42.279 sequence, she asks them, do you love my books? 00:12:42.440 --> 00:12:44.259 Yes, we love your books. Well, do you love them 00:12:44.259 --> 00:12:46.960 as much as Shakespeare? Yes, we do. And she says, 00:12:47.120 --> 00:12:49.960 that's impossible. And she starts to ask about 00:12:49.960 --> 00:12:52.620 whether Helen enjoyed her romance novels and 00:12:52.620 --> 00:12:56.289 whether Helen enjoyed. her novel that is unpublished 00:12:56.289 --> 00:12:59.549 at the moment. We discover through Larry that 00:12:59.549 --> 00:13:03.009 Helen thought that her books were harmless and 00:13:03.009 --> 00:13:05.129 that they pleased people and that it provided 00:13:05.129 --> 00:13:08.570 them with a home and a living and she was pleased 00:13:08.570 --> 00:13:10.970 with that and that they seemed to please Carol 00:13:10.970 --> 00:13:15.009 in some way. Then when it came down to Carol's 00:13:15.009 --> 00:13:17.529 Heart of Hearts, her unpublished novel, we find 00:13:17.529 --> 00:13:21.070 out that Helen was just meh about the novel. 00:13:21.320 --> 00:13:24.340 but that they wanted her to publish it for herself 00:13:24.340 --> 00:13:26.700 so that she would have some sort of satisfaction 00:13:26.700 --> 00:13:29.340 out of it. And that's outside of the hive mind. 00:13:29.360 --> 00:13:31.679 These are the two people that knew her prior 00:13:31.679 --> 00:13:35.440 to that and wanted her to just simply be happy. 00:13:35.500 --> 00:13:39.360 So it's bittersweet. You find out that her partner 00:13:39.360 --> 00:13:41.840 didn't really much care for her writing, but 00:13:41.840 --> 00:13:45.080 was fully supportive of her career and her writing 00:13:45.080 --> 00:13:48.759 in both ways. And it seems as though the conversation 00:13:48.759 --> 00:13:51.679 with Larry, we have the confirmation that indeed 00:13:51.679 --> 00:13:56.059 the hive mind can't lie. Even when Carol returns 00:13:56.059 --> 00:13:59.659 to the white board, she writes down can't lie 00:13:59.659 --> 00:14:02.580 and even underscores it at that point and erases 00:14:02.580 --> 00:14:05.279 the question mark. So it's almost as if Vince 00:14:05.279 --> 00:14:09.460 Gilligan is telling us this is a hard, fast rule 00:14:09.460 --> 00:14:13.100 for this world that I've created. But I don't 00:14:13.100 --> 00:14:17.179 know that we have hard, fast rules. I think it's 00:14:17.179 --> 00:14:20.659 more about Carol's perception of what the rules 00:14:20.659 --> 00:14:25.139 may be. I don't honestly believe that we've sussed 00:14:25.139 --> 00:14:28.500 out whether they truly can or cannot lie or will 00:14:28.500 --> 00:14:31.960 or will not lie for various reasons. I think 00:14:31.960 --> 00:14:35.340 they dance around it in such an interesting way 00:14:35.340 --> 00:14:38.740 that it still doesn't answer the question. And 00:14:38.740 --> 00:14:42.320 I enjoy that this is a show that we both have 00:14:42.320 --> 00:14:45.240 our own theories on. And even if those theories 00:14:45.240 --> 00:14:48.279 are a little in opposition, it just drives the 00:14:48.279 --> 00:14:50.580 conversation forward, which is so great about 00:14:50.580 --> 00:14:53.419 anything that Vince Gilligan does. So I love 00:14:53.419 --> 00:14:55.700 that quite a bit. I think this sort of leads 00:14:55.700 --> 00:14:59.799 us back into the next sequence here where she 00:14:59.799 --> 00:15:03.500 returns to Zosia in the hospital. And we see 00:15:03.500 --> 00:15:08.299 from Ray's performance that she still feels almost 00:15:08.299 --> 00:15:10.659 sorry that this happened to Zosia, but it leads 00:15:10.659 --> 00:15:14.039 into a really interesting conversation with Zosia 00:15:14.039 --> 00:15:17.059 as well. Some of the things that they're mentioning 00:15:17.059 --> 00:15:20.659 here is the love potion that we were talking 00:15:20.659 --> 00:15:24.039 about before, or the forced integration of Carol 00:15:24.039 --> 00:15:27.679 into the hive mind eventually. And Zosia even 00:15:27.679 --> 00:15:30.100 mentions, soon enough, you'll understand everything 00:15:30.100 --> 00:15:33.799 and you'll feel much better. And that line seemed 00:15:33.799 --> 00:15:37.899 to bring up a memory of conversion camp that 00:15:37.899 --> 00:15:40.159 her mother had sent her to and brings up the 00:15:40.159 --> 00:15:43.379 similarities of these conversion camp counselors 00:15:43.379 --> 00:15:49.360 that were by all means evil people who are trying 00:15:49.360 --> 00:15:52.259 to change the core of who Carol is and integrate 00:15:52.259 --> 00:15:55.720 them into their way of seeing as well. So I thought 00:15:55.720 --> 00:15:59.940 that was a very hard -hitting conversation. She 00:15:59.940 --> 00:16:04.360 says in reference to the counselors at the conversion 00:16:04.360 --> 00:16:07.519 camp she went to when she was 16. And just like 00:16:07.519 --> 00:16:12.799 you, they smiled all the time. And oh man, what 00:16:12.799 --> 00:16:15.519 a punch to the gut with that line. Zosia also 00:16:15.519 --> 00:16:19.379 says, we've been you, but you've never been us. 00:16:20.779 --> 00:16:23.879 And that's a fantastic line as well. Even though 00:16:23.879 --> 00:16:26.960 it reminds me of Ray's line from the previous 00:16:26.960 --> 00:16:30.750 episode where she says, I don't need my Drug 00:16:30.750 --> 00:16:35.610 dealer to describe the heroin to me Meaning I 00:16:35.610 --> 00:16:38.970 don't need the sales pitch here and this is the 00:16:38.970 --> 00:16:43.750 third step in her thought process as we move 00:16:43.750 --> 00:16:46.350 through this episode The first one was she has 00:16:46.350 --> 00:16:49.889 an inkling of an idea The second one she confirms 00:16:49.889 --> 00:16:52.870 it in the interrogation with Larry and as we 00:16:52.870 --> 00:16:56.929 close out the hospital room scene They do a close 00:16:56.929 --> 00:17:01.179 -up of the drip that Zosia is connected to. And 00:17:01.179 --> 00:17:05.420 even in that scene, Carol specifically asks Zosia 00:17:05.420 --> 00:17:10.420 if the joining can be reversed. And Zosia's, 00:17:10.420 --> 00:17:14.339 I guess you can call it a non -response, we find 00:17:14.339 --> 00:17:19.640 out that she can't tell a lie, but she can also 00:17:19.640 --> 00:17:23.890 not tell. the truth by simply not saying anything 00:17:23.890 --> 00:17:26.809 almost lie by omission seems to be the closest 00:17:26.809 --> 00:17:31.670 that they can get to uh deception right and she 00:17:31.670 --> 00:17:35.069 uh makes a beeline for the thiopental sodium 00:17:35.069 --> 00:17:38.769 or for those in the know it's considered the 00:17:38.769 --> 00:17:41.769 truth serum yeah arian immediately reminded me 00:17:41.769 --> 00:17:45.089 of every A film and television show that used 00:17:45.089 --> 00:17:49.309 a truth serum in their scripting and this is 00:17:49.309 --> 00:17:51.589 sodium pentothal essentially which is supposed 00:17:51.589 --> 00:17:54.190 to be a truth serum which is just a kind of a 00:17:54.190 --> 00:17:56.990 heavy barbiturate that just really takes your 00:17:56.990 --> 00:17:59.890 inhibitions and really waters them down quite 00:17:59.890 --> 00:18:03.490 a bit allowing you to be hyper honest in some 00:18:03.490 --> 00:18:06.589 cases kind of like when someone gets drunk and 00:18:06.589 --> 00:18:09.809 they become a little bit too Honest in the conversation 00:18:09.809 --> 00:18:12.650 it does that but to an nth degree I would say 00:18:12.650 --> 00:18:15.650 especially in this episode And once again with 00:18:15.650 --> 00:18:18.269 some comedic intent in the next scene But I do 00:18:18.269 --> 00:18:21.390 really like when she runs into the doctor in 00:18:21.390 --> 00:18:25.410 there and she very frankly asks You guys have 00:18:25.410 --> 00:18:30.710 any heroin around here? after some coercion the 00:18:30.710 --> 00:18:34.609 doctor agrees to Procure her some unadulterated 00:18:34.609 --> 00:18:37.119 heroin. I believe he called it That's only eight 00:18:37.119 --> 00:18:40.019 hours away and it's on its way. Better than dominoes 00:18:40.019 --> 00:18:44.500 she says. 30 minutes or less and it is always 00:18:44.500 --> 00:18:46.640 free apparently. But this leads us into a really 00:18:46.640 --> 00:18:49.619 great scene where we find out it was a ruse and 00:18:49.619 --> 00:18:53.720 she dumps the heroin away and instead she's going 00:18:53.720 --> 00:18:58.039 to go about testing the truth serum on herself. 00:18:58.299 --> 00:19:00.700 And I really love how this sequence was edited 00:19:00.700 --> 00:19:04.079 in particular where we see her inject herself 00:19:04.079 --> 00:19:06.900 and start the camera and sit down. and sort of 00:19:06.900 --> 00:19:10.700 look around and in a quick little match cut, 00:19:10.740 --> 00:19:13.740 she's instantly asleep and she's got to turn 00:19:13.740 --> 00:19:17.559 the camera back on and go through exactly what 00:19:17.559 --> 00:19:19.819 happened to her while she was going through this 00:19:19.819 --> 00:19:23.059 bout of truth serum. Some funny things and some 00:19:23.059 --> 00:19:26.299 really heart wrenching scenes. The sequence where 00:19:26.299 --> 00:19:29.380 she has the heroin. flushes it down the toilet 00:19:29.380 --> 00:19:32.279 immediately reminded me of Breaking Bad because 00:19:32.279 --> 00:19:34.359 we have a scene in Breaking Bad where he has 00:19:34.359 --> 00:19:36.420 to flush some things down the toilet and I'm 00:19:36.420 --> 00:19:38.539 pretty sure they use the same angles and everything 00:19:38.539 --> 00:19:41.279 so I thought that was kind of a cool call back 00:19:41.279 --> 00:19:43.839 to Breaking Bad and you've gotten us to the point 00:19:43.839 --> 00:19:48.519 to where she's now reviewing the footage of her 00:19:48.519 --> 00:19:51.789 bout with the truth serum. And as you mentioned, 00:19:52.150 --> 00:19:54.490 she does have some harrowing moments. I would 00:19:54.490 --> 00:19:56.490 say the most harrowing moment is when she breaks 00:19:56.490 --> 00:19:59.970 down and exclaims that I miss you. I miss you. 00:20:00.029 --> 00:20:03.109 And she's talking about Helen and she is just. 00:20:03.509 --> 00:20:06.569 Balling and it's hard for her to watch and it's 00:20:06.569 --> 00:20:09.930 hard for us to watch. And I put myself in her 00:20:09.930 --> 00:20:12.549 role and I'm thinking, how would I feel if I 00:20:12.549 --> 00:20:15.680 saw myself? behaving in this way. And she does 00:20:15.680 --> 00:20:18.420 exactly what I would do. She fast forwards through 00:20:18.420 --> 00:20:21.079 a lot of stuff. And as we watch this fast forward 00:20:21.079 --> 00:20:23.700 footage, we see her dancing around the living 00:20:23.700 --> 00:20:27.079 room, getting food, all kinds of funny stuff. 00:20:27.579 --> 00:20:30.079 And then we'll stop and she'll be reading parts 00:20:30.079 --> 00:20:34.359 of her novel in a crazy English accent. And then 00:20:34.359 --> 00:20:38.420 it'll fast forward again and just go back and 00:20:38.420 --> 00:20:41.599 forth through maudlin and humorous scenes in 00:20:41.599 --> 00:20:44.759 this sequence here. and she decides to take the 00:20:44.759 --> 00:20:46.960 memory card and flush it down the toilet. And 00:20:46.960 --> 00:20:50.680 my thought was that memory card could survive 00:20:50.680 --> 00:20:54.500 that and they could find that. And if they find 00:20:54.500 --> 00:20:58.599 that, they would see that she had tested this. 00:20:58.809 --> 00:21:01.670 drug on herself to see how it works out later. 00:21:02.049 --> 00:21:03.930 That may or may not make a difference as we move 00:21:03.930 --> 00:21:06.089 on, but it was interesting to me that she wouldn't 00:21:06.089 --> 00:21:08.589 destroy it in another way, like Mr. Robot and 00:21:08.589 --> 00:21:11.329 throw it in the microwave or smash it with a 00:21:11.329 --> 00:21:14.250 hammer. She decides to flush it down the toilet. 00:21:14.309 --> 00:21:17.650 So I wonder if that will come back to haunt her 00:21:17.650 --> 00:21:21.670 later. Yeah. And I think she gets the confirmation 00:21:21.670 --> 00:21:24.630 that she wanted out of her experiment here with 00:21:24.630 --> 00:21:29.039 a truth serum, specifically when she fast forwards 00:21:29.039 --> 00:21:32.940 to herself talking about Zosia and she admits 00:21:32.940 --> 00:21:36.099 Zosia is so annoying. Yeah. She goes, she's so 00:21:36.099 --> 00:21:38.539 annoying. And the next line is, and why'd she 00:21:38.539 --> 00:21:41.839 have to be so goddamn fuckable? And I'm going 00:21:41.839 --> 00:21:44.619 to tell you this. I paused it there because I 00:21:44.619 --> 00:21:48.299 was laughing so hard. I had tears coming from 00:21:48.299 --> 00:21:51.039 my eyes. I was laughing so hard when she laid 00:21:51.039 --> 00:21:54.740 out that line so well delivered. And it made 00:21:54.740 --> 00:21:59.130 me wonder, did they bring the pirate lady and 00:21:59.130 --> 00:22:02.250 to play because they also believe that Carol 00:22:02.250 --> 00:22:04.769 might be physically attracted to her as well. 00:22:04.809 --> 00:22:07.970 And I going to say yes with this scene. Absolutely. 00:22:08.150 --> 00:22:09.990 Yeah. And I think that's something I don't think 00:22:09.990 --> 00:22:14.230 Carol would ever admit even to herself. Uh, definitely 00:22:14.230 --> 00:22:17.490 not out loud. Yeah. This, this strange creature 00:22:17.490 --> 00:22:21.190 is effable. Uh, but she does. So I think that 00:22:21.190 --> 00:22:25.250 confirms to her that this experiment can work. 00:22:25.329 --> 00:22:28.910 She says we have a winner. Yeah. And then we 00:22:28.910 --> 00:22:32.470 go to the next scene where she indeed is finally 00:22:32.470 --> 00:22:35.109 going to test this with his OSHA in particular. 00:22:35.690 --> 00:22:38.069 And it was confirmed in the previous episode 00:22:38.069 --> 00:22:42.109 towards the end with the hand grenade scene that 00:22:42.109 --> 00:22:46.329 the hive mind is susceptible to things like alcohol. 00:22:46.869 --> 00:22:50.829 So we keep that in mind in that this true syrup 00:22:50.829 --> 00:22:54.579 more than likely would. Be effective against 00:22:54.579 --> 00:22:57.200 an individual within the hive mind as well. So 00:22:57.200 --> 00:23:00.640 we do have that laid down for us already and 00:23:00.640 --> 00:23:04.819 of course Carol her intent here is to inject 00:23:04.819 --> 00:23:09.099 this truth serum into Zosia to get her to Open 00:23:09.099 --> 00:23:11.079 up a little bit so that she'll answer the question 00:23:11.079 --> 00:23:15.079 that she posited earlier around Can I reverse 00:23:15.079 --> 00:23:19.019 the joining? as Carol returned she gathers OSHA 00:23:19.019 --> 00:23:21.759 out of the bed and politely asked if she would 00:23:21.759 --> 00:23:25.680 like some sun. And this is really the kindest 00:23:25.680 --> 00:23:29.380 that we've seen Carol to Zosia. It seems almost 00:23:29.380 --> 00:23:33.519 as if Carol really only shows kindness ever when 00:23:33.519 --> 00:23:36.339 she wants something in return, but Carol gathers 00:23:36.339 --> 00:23:39.619 up Zosia. And I guess I should mention that Carol 00:23:39.619 --> 00:23:44.339 injects the truth serum into Zosia's IV drip 00:23:44.339 --> 00:23:47.720 while they're going down in the elevator. And 00:23:47.720 --> 00:23:52.390 there's even a short funny scene. Muzak in elevators 00:23:52.390 --> 00:23:54.869 and what where where did that go? I never noticed 00:23:54.869 --> 00:23:57.690 it when it sort of left the zeitgeist But yeah, 00:23:57.869 --> 00:23:59.569 whenever I'm in an elevator now, I don't hear 00:23:59.569 --> 00:24:02.609 that music that I heard from my childhood So 00:24:02.609 --> 00:24:08.589 now we can say that the joined are not only Vegetarians 00:24:08.589 --> 00:24:12.049 they don't murder, but they also don't appreciate 00:24:12.049 --> 00:24:17.619 music Another thing to add to the joined philosophy, 00:24:18.160 --> 00:24:20.859 Musak is out. But if you want to listen, I'll 00:24:20.859 --> 00:24:24.059 play you the song Between the Moon and New York 00:24:24.059 --> 00:24:30.000 City. But it's the Musak version of a Yacht Rock 00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:32.940 song. There's comedy stacked on top of comedy 00:24:32.940 --> 00:24:35.079 here that I might go over some folks' heads, 00:24:35.200 --> 00:24:36.819 but I thought that that was really fantastic. 00:24:37.380 --> 00:24:40.430 But you're right. is behind Zosia who's sitting 00:24:40.430 --> 00:24:42.930 in the wheelchair in the elevator and that's 00:24:42.930 --> 00:24:46.029 her opportunity to spike her IV with the truth 00:24:46.029 --> 00:24:49.109 serum and she wheels her outside into the sunshine 00:24:49.109 --> 00:24:53.230 and Zosia says yes we do enjoy the sunshine we 00:24:53.230 --> 00:24:59.210 are enjoying this and finally Carol starts to 00:24:59.210 --> 00:25:02.029 interrogate her but she's interrogating her first 00:25:02.029 --> 00:25:05.349 about the weather And we know with the joint 00:25:05.349 --> 00:25:07.509 that they like to break down all the details. 00:25:07.589 --> 00:25:09.910 What's the barometer? What's the wind speed? 00:25:09.990 --> 00:25:13.390 They even provide Celsius and Fahrenheit for 00:25:13.390 --> 00:25:17.130 the temperature outside. And as Carol asks more 00:25:17.130 --> 00:25:19.369 and more detailed questions about the weather, 00:25:20.029 --> 00:25:23.829 Zosia starts to fade out a little bit. And Carol 00:25:23.829 --> 00:25:27.170 just becomes very insistent. You told me before 00:25:27.170 --> 00:25:29.589 that we could reverse this. How do we reverse 00:25:29.589 --> 00:25:35.480 this? And Zosia just says, No, no, no. And this 00:25:35.480 --> 00:25:39.559 is where the scene becomes very invasion of the 00:25:39.559 --> 00:25:41.880 body snatchers because we start to see people 00:25:41.880 --> 00:25:44.599 creeping out from the edges. And by creeping 00:25:44.599 --> 00:25:47.740 out, I'm saying that it doesn't feel comfortable 00:25:47.740 --> 00:25:50.940 or friendly or nice at all. No one has a smile 00:25:50.940 --> 00:25:53.799 on their face. In fact, they look like they have 00:25:53.799 --> 00:26:00.000 a scowl. Zosia is crying at this point and Carol 00:26:00.000 --> 00:26:02.559 realizes she doesn't want to lose this opportunity 00:26:02.559 --> 00:26:04.799 as she's continuing to grill Zosia and saying 00:26:04.799 --> 00:26:06.859 please just tell me how do we reverse this? How 00:26:06.859 --> 00:26:09.900 do we reverse this? And she asked Zosia the question 00:26:09.900 --> 00:26:12.539 several times over as she starts to see everybody 00:26:12.539 --> 00:26:16.680 crowd in around them. She takes a pair of handcuffs 00:26:16.680 --> 00:26:20.240 and she handcuffs herself to Zosia and she says 00:26:20.240 --> 00:26:22.880 you have to do what I say now back off and when 00:26:22.880 --> 00:26:25.319 she says back off the entire crowd backs up an 00:26:25.319 --> 00:26:30.190 entire step again that creepy in unison symmetry 00:26:30.190 --> 00:26:33.710 that we have here. So at this point, the entire 00:26:33.710 --> 00:26:36.789 crowd of the joined around her are chanting, 00:26:37.690 --> 00:26:40.769 please Carol, please Carol, please Carol, over 00:26:40.769 --> 00:26:44.750 and over again. And now you have Carol handcuffed 00:26:44.750 --> 00:26:48.349 to Zosia, Carol telling them, I have agency, 00:26:48.529 --> 00:26:51.410 you have to do what I say. And all they're saying 00:26:51.410 --> 00:26:55.069 over and over again is please Carol, please Carol, 00:26:55.369 --> 00:26:58.450 please Carol. It's extremely unnerving. It's 00:26:58.450 --> 00:27:00.329 completely the opposite in the way that they 00:27:00.329 --> 00:27:03.789 behaved before. Yeah, a really fantastic scene 00:27:03.789 --> 00:27:05.910 and just wonderfully acted, not only from our 00:27:05.910 --> 00:27:08.569 two main leads here, but the other actors that 00:27:08.569 --> 00:27:11.650 are surrounding them. It is almost something 00:27:11.650 --> 00:27:13.990 wrenched right out of a horror movie. I want 00:27:13.990 --> 00:27:17.230 to point out that Zosia's face while they're 00:27:17.230 --> 00:27:19.890 all chanting at her, she's clearly feeling the 00:27:19.890 --> 00:27:22.470 effects of the drugs and the after effect that 00:27:22.470 --> 00:27:25.319 she's not. chanting along with the crowd around 00:27:25.319 --> 00:27:28.160 them. And it seems almost as if to me, what I 00:27:28.160 --> 00:27:33.960 sort of picked up on was, is this, is she reverting 00:27:33.960 --> 00:27:37.579 back to an individual as well? When you inoculate 00:27:37.579 --> 00:27:40.799 somebody with whether that's alcohol or, or with 00:27:40.799 --> 00:27:44.420 the truth serum here, does that wrench them farther 00:27:44.420 --> 00:27:46.460 and farther away from the hive mind? So I thought 00:27:46.460 --> 00:27:48.299 that was really interesting. Of course, there's 00:27:48.299 --> 00:27:51.359 a couple of explanations for what that look on 00:27:51.359 --> 00:27:54.119 her face could actually be here. And listen, 00:27:54.339 --> 00:27:56.819 I'll say this. This isn't something I subscribe 00:27:56.819 --> 00:27:59.039 to, but it's something I want to throw out in 00:27:59.039 --> 00:28:02.460 the ether here. Are they answering her question? 00:28:03.480 --> 00:28:08.359 Where is it that pleasing Carol? is going to 00:28:08.359 --> 00:28:10.559 be the way that she's able to revert them out 00:28:10.559 --> 00:28:13.440 of the joining. Not something again, that I, 00:28:13.440 --> 00:28:15.519 I I'm subscribing to, but it's something I want 00:28:15.519 --> 00:28:17.180 to put out there because I thought it was an 00:28:17.180 --> 00:28:19.599 interesting thought that I had. So probably not. 00:28:19.799 --> 00:28:22.980 But I think the wording in particular, please, 00:28:23.240 --> 00:28:27.279 Carol could also work as a potential answer down 00:28:27.279 --> 00:28:30.640 the road. But we see at this point that Carol's 00:28:30.640 --> 00:28:35.140 plan goes awry. And once again, we find Carol 00:28:35.140 --> 00:28:39.200 doing harm to not only the hive mind, but the 00:28:39.200 --> 00:28:42.440 closest person to her in this individual named 00:28:42.440 --> 00:28:46.880 Zosia. You know, when we talk about Zosia's appearance 00:28:46.880 --> 00:28:50.759 in the chair while she's drugged, the thing I 00:28:50.759 --> 00:28:54.660 saw on her face was sadness. And so now it's 00:28:54.660 --> 00:28:57.579 the opposite of what everyone else appears to 00:28:57.579 --> 00:29:00.099 have on their face. And that's an important distinction, 00:29:00.339 --> 00:29:04.819 appears to have on their face. And she's sad. 00:29:05.019 --> 00:29:08.400 And I think it does lend itself to your theory. 00:29:08.680 --> 00:29:12.700 Did this drug help to break her away from the 00:29:12.700 --> 00:29:15.640 hive mind? And I'll say that we have another 00:29:15.640 --> 00:29:18.440 piece of evidence as the scene continues in that 00:29:18.440 --> 00:29:23.380 as well. So I don't think that you're quite off. 00:29:23.900 --> 00:29:28.220 I was excited in episode two when she lashed 00:29:28.220 --> 00:29:32.299 out at Zosia in the cul -de -sac. And we saw 00:29:32.299 --> 00:29:36.259 Zosia have her first episode. And I thought in 00:29:36.259 --> 00:29:39.279 that moment, oh, again, we have a weapon here 00:29:39.279 --> 00:29:44.200 to either fight against this or perhaps reverse 00:29:44.200 --> 00:29:47.440 it. Maybe if I got angry enough, it would bounce 00:29:47.440 --> 00:29:50.000 everybody else out and just leave the person 00:29:50.000 --> 00:29:54.519 who's standing in front of me in. Now we have 00:29:54.519 --> 00:29:58.059 another instance where you introduce a drug or 00:29:58.059 --> 00:30:01.430 a truth serum. And it looks like it could be 00:30:01.430 --> 00:30:04.390 another tool potentially to pull a person out 00:30:04.390 --> 00:30:07.769 of the hive mind. Now we're going to go into 00:30:07.769 --> 00:30:11.630 the very final scene here to maybe answer that. 00:30:12.390 --> 00:30:15.069 To remind everyone, we're completely surrounded 00:30:15.069 --> 00:30:18.890 by the joined. Their numbers continue to increase. 00:30:19.190 --> 00:30:22.029 They're all chanting with tear stained faces, 00:30:22.450 --> 00:30:25.329 please Carol, please Carol, please Carol. And 00:30:25.329 --> 00:30:30.259 they say, Zosia is now experiencing a heart attack. 00:30:31.400 --> 00:30:36.200 Will you allow us to save her? And again, she's 00:30:36.200 --> 00:30:38.759 presented with a question she can answer, no, 00:30:38.960 --> 00:30:42.279 and they wouldn't. And she says, yes. And then 00:30:42.279 --> 00:30:47.279 we see a doctor try to revive Zosia. And then 00:30:47.279 --> 00:30:51.460 the final audio that we hear is the defibrillator 00:30:51.460 --> 00:30:56.500 says, shock advised. And then they cut to black. 00:30:57.289 --> 00:31:00.930 So we're left with a cliffhanger as to whether, 00:31:00.970 --> 00:31:04.809 frankly, once again, is Zosia gonna make it? 00:31:05.769 --> 00:31:09.509 And Carol having to endure the repercussions 00:31:09.509 --> 00:31:11.930 of the decisions that she's made in order to 00:31:11.930 --> 00:31:16.049 test her theory on the truth theorem and try 00:31:16.049 --> 00:31:21.650 to find a way to reverse the joining. Let's say 00:31:21.650 --> 00:31:25.670 a drug or an outburst does break a person out 00:31:25.670 --> 00:31:29.150 of the hive mind. The potential result is you 00:31:29.150 --> 00:31:34.150 have a Helen situation where she dies and, or 00:31:34.150 --> 00:31:37.750 we have a Zosia situation where here she could 00:31:37.750 --> 00:31:43.710 die. And is that the only way out of the joint? 00:31:45.150 --> 00:31:48.190 Oh, interesting. So maybe if you die and are 00:31:48.190 --> 00:31:50.910 brought back, for instance, with a defibrillator, 00:31:52.089 --> 00:31:53.890 does that sever your tie at that point? That's 00:31:53.890 --> 00:31:55.509 a really interesting thought. I didn't think 00:31:55.509 --> 00:31:58.289 about that. Well Kiefer Sutherland thought of 00:31:58.289 --> 00:32:01.869 it years ago in a film called the flatliners 00:32:01.869 --> 00:32:05.329 Hell yeah, he did if you haven't seen it. Honestly, 00:32:05.329 --> 00:32:07.970 I can't recommend it It doesn't age well, but 00:32:07.970 --> 00:32:10.750 the concept is still fun. So yeah, we're trying 00:32:10.750 --> 00:32:13.450 a flatliner situation here That's my final thoughts 00:32:13.450 --> 00:32:17.049 on the episode itself quite impressed There wasn't 00:32:17.049 --> 00:32:19.890 a waste of space time or word and I thought that 00:32:19.890 --> 00:32:22.589 they delivered enough of the mystery and enough 00:32:22.589 --> 00:32:26.400 of the backstory with Carol that This may be 00:32:26.400 --> 00:32:30.019 possibly a perfect episode. I got to agree with 00:32:30.019 --> 00:32:33.859 you. It was lean, mean, and it answered a lot 00:32:33.859 --> 00:32:37.059 of questions for us and maybe posited even more 00:32:37.059 --> 00:32:40.619 questions for us. So another great one. Well, 00:32:40.700 --> 00:32:43.240 I want to also point out my favorite revelation 00:32:43.240 --> 00:32:46.420 for me in this that you revealed where she says, 00:32:46.599 --> 00:32:51.069 please Carol. And is it them? imploring her to 00:32:51.069 --> 00:32:54.029 please allow us to do something or please stop 00:32:54.029 --> 00:32:56.609 and you're more saying no it's actually we're 00:32:56.609 --> 00:33:02.670 here to please Carol and both answers are terrifying. 00:33:03.509 --> 00:33:05.710 It's something to think about certainly something 00:33:05.710 --> 00:33:08.029 I didn't agree with I think and I probably still 00:33:08.029 --> 00:33:10.150 don't but it's interesting to think about and 00:33:10.150 --> 00:33:12.569 it would be fun to have a little kernel of truth 00:33:12.569 --> 00:33:16.059 in there. For sure. I didn't want to dig into 00:33:16.059 --> 00:33:18.519 too many theories out there. We're pretty early 00:33:18.519 --> 00:33:22.160 on in the show and theories can go awry rather 00:33:22.160 --> 00:33:25.279 quickly. But one statement that was made by a 00:33:25.279 --> 00:33:27.559 handful of fans is they believe that she was 00:33:27.559 --> 00:33:32.259 asking the wrong questions. When she's interrogating 00:33:32.259 --> 00:33:37.539 Larry, I at first had that same feeling. Why 00:33:37.539 --> 00:33:40.119 are you asking about your novel and whether your 00:33:40.119 --> 00:33:42.160 partner liked it or not? You have more pressing 00:33:42.160 --> 00:33:45.339 things to be asking questions about but in reality 00:33:45.339 --> 00:33:48.700 she was interrogating him to define where the 00:33:48.700 --> 00:33:51.759 holes were in the Swiss cheese she's coming up 00:33:51.759 --> 00:33:55.940 with an idea of how she can conquer this so there 00:33:55.940 --> 00:34:00.359 was that and then the episode culminates in a 00:34:00.359 --> 00:34:04.619 couple of questions that are Huge can you reverse 00:34:04.619 --> 00:34:09.329 this? what's going to happen if you finally get 00:34:09.329 --> 00:34:11.550 the formula right. Because again, we don't know 00:34:11.550 --> 00:34:13.929 how they're going to attempt to make this happen. 00:34:15.929 --> 00:34:20.710 And do I have a choice at that moment to go with 00:34:20.710 --> 00:34:24.090 you or not, despite your biological imperative? 00:34:24.730 --> 00:34:28.010 So I know another fantastic episode. Yeah, I 00:34:28.010 --> 00:34:31.630 guess what I see as the theme for this episode. 00:34:31.980 --> 00:34:35.360 is posited right at the end of the cold open 00:34:35.360 --> 00:34:40.019 with La Terca because the entire episode is about 00:34:40.019 --> 00:34:44.260 Carol being this very clever and cunning woman 00:34:44.260 --> 00:34:47.639 and incredibly skillful and resourceful woman 00:34:47.639 --> 00:34:49.980 as well. That could have almost been the title 00:34:49.980 --> 00:34:52.219 of the episode and it would have made plenty 00:34:52.219 --> 00:34:56.059 of sense. They could have even called it Clever 00:34:56.059 --> 00:34:59.260 Girl and that would be a reference to Jurassic 00:34:59.260 --> 00:35:03.079 Park where the guy's hunting down the two predators, 00:35:03.300 --> 00:35:06.559 and he says, clever girl. And she's beyond clever. 00:35:06.699 --> 00:35:09.420 She's sharp. I really hope she gets at least 00:35:09.420 --> 00:35:11.940 nominated for an Emmy, but she should just land 00:35:11.940 --> 00:35:14.920 it. I can't think of many other television actors 00:35:14.920 --> 00:35:17.320 that have been nailing it on this level this 00:35:17.320 --> 00:35:21.199 year. I agree wholeheartedly. Yeah, absolutely. 00:35:22.500 --> 00:35:25.139 Well, I think that'll do it for this episode 00:35:25.139 --> 00:35:30.579 of E Pluribus Unum, episode four entitled, Please. 00:35:30.780 --> 00:35:33.760 Carol if you like what we're doing here with 00:35:33.760 --> 00:35:36.940 e pluribus unum, please Carol do us a favor and 00:35:36.940 --> 00:35:39.800 check out our other podcast dad You're wrong. 00:35:40.119 --> 00:35:43.659 If you enjoy horror movies science fiction or 00:35:43.659 --> 00:35:46.059 fantasy. Thanks a lot guys. Have a good one. 00:35:46.139 --> 00:35:46.940 We'll talk to you next week