WEBVTT 00:00:15.059 --> 00:00:18.379 Hello fellow humans and welcome to E Pluribus 00:00:18.379 --> 00:00:21.420 Unum, the one and only recap show you need to 00:00:21.420 --> 00:00:25.260 listen to about the magnum opus of Vince Gilligan's 00:00:25.260 --> 00:00:30.410 Pluribus. I'm Josh. And I'm Eric, and let's get 00:00:30.410 --> 00:00:33.429 started at the beginning, as they say in Alice 00:00:33.429 --> 00:00:35.950 in Wonderland. I think I'm gonna have to disagree 00:00:35.950 --> 00:00:38.829 with you here. I think Vince Gilligan's magnum 00:00:38.829 --> 00:00:42.270 opus was, in fact, the X -Files spin -off series, 00:00:42.450 --> 00:00:44.570 The Lone Gunman, but this is a close second, 00:00:44.590 --> 00:00:47.530 I think, yeah. You know, you might have me with 00:00:47.530 --> 00:00:49.909 that one, but we might just have to have an episode 00:00:49.909 --> 00:00:53.170 just on The Lone Gunman, and we'll have to... 00:00:53.179 --> 00:00:55.820 really embellish that whole thought. Pluribus 00:00:55.820 --> 00:00:59.039 represents Vince Gilligan's most ambitious project 00:00:59.039 --> 00:01:02.039 to date, a post -apocalyptic sci -fi thriller 00:01:02.039 --> 00:01:05.260 that explores what happens when an alien virus 00:01:05.260 --> 00:01:08.579 transforms humanity into a peaceful, content 00:01:08.579 --> 00:01:13.060 hive mind. The series follows Carol Sturka, one 00:01:13.060 --> 00:01:16.140 of only 12 people worldwide that are immune to 00:01:16.140 --> 00:01:19.900 the joining. As she grapples with being the most 00:01:19.900 --> 00:01:23.459 miserable person on the planet, full of relentlessly 00:01:23.459 --> 00:01:26.560 happy people. The show blends psychological thriller, 00:01:27.079 --> 00:01:30.359 dark comedy, and horror while asking genuinely 00:01:30.359 --> 00:01:33.500 difficult questions about free will versus forced 00:01:33.500 --> 00:01:37.159 happiness. Again, I went in blind on this show. 00:01:37.280 --> 00:01:39.140 I didn't know if this was going to be a character 00:01:39.140 --> 00:01:42.879 study, if it was going to be set in New Mexico, 00:01:43.099 --> 00:01:45.939 if it was going to be anything that we would 00:01:45.939 --> 00:01:48.400 typically see from him. And I remember reading 00:01:48.400 --> 00:01:50.890 an interview with Vince and he said, What I actually 00:01:50.890 --> 00:01:53.150 wanted to do is prove to people that I'm not 00:01:53.150 --> 00:01:56.489 a one trick pony. And I thought it was both kind 00:01:56.489 --> 00:01:58.670 of funny, but I also got what he was talking 00:01:58.670 --> 00:02:02.790 about. Especially after the spinoffs of Breaking 00:02:02.790 --> 00:02:05.969 Bad that's come with Better Call Saul, as well 00:02:05.969 --> 00:02:09.349 as Camino, I could see why he wanted to break 00:02:09.349 --> 00:02:11.270 away from that a little bit. And I thought he 00:02:11.270 --> 00:02:14.449 did a really fantastic job so far through this 00:02:14.449 --> 00:02:17.750 first episode, especially in setting up a new 00:02:17.750 --> 00:02:20.439 world, setting up a new tone. Vince Gilligan 00:02:20.439 --> 00:02:24.319 and his writing team throughout the years across 00:02:24.319 --> 00:02:27.300 his series have always been very good about their 00:02:27.300 --> 00:02:29.580 cold opens and that's one thing I've always loved 00:02:29.580 --> 00:02:31.919 about his stuff and this one is no exception 00:02:31.919 --> 00:02:35.680 here and I think with this cold open he really 00:02:35.680 --> 00:02:38.919 lays down the tone in a way that says you're 00:02:38.919 --> 00:02:40.819 watching something else this isn't my other shows 00:02:40.819 --> 00:02:43.400 my more popular shows we're into something new 00:02:43.400 --> 00:02:46.020 here just with things like how bright the colors 00:02:46.020 --> 00:02:48.849 are or in this sort of satellite array that's 00:02:48.849 --> 00:02:51.270 in the, what is that movie from the 90s? There's 00:02:51.270 --> 00:02:53.129 probably a dozen of them, but the one I remember 00:02:53.129 --> 00:02:55.590 is Contact. Contact, yeah, that's what I was 00:02:55.590 --> 00:02:58.129 trying to get out. Right. So yeah, a great setting 00:02:58.129 --> 00:03:00.310 there and just the colors themselves, that beautiful 00:03:00.310 --> 00:03:02.610 blue of the sky and the green of the grass, it's 00:03:02.610 --> 00:03:07.009 very different from the stark filtered view of 00:03:07.009 --> 00:03:10.310 Albuquerque in Breaking Bad. Interesting. You 00:03:10.310 --> 00:03:12.469 know, I'm going to ask you this because I had 00:03:12.469 --> 00:03:14.909 this sensation as I'm starting to watch this 00:03:14.909 --> 00:03:18.150 introduction with these scientists that are out 00:03:18.150 --> 00:03:20.949 at the huge array where you have these giant 00:03:20.949 --> 00:03:23.270 satellites pointing toward the sky and they're 00:03:23.270 --> 00:03:26.090 all excited, almost like kids that have discovered 00:03:26.090 --> 00:03:30.349 something brand new. And I immediately felt like 00:03:30.349 --> 00:03:35.449 I was watching a Vince Gilligan property because 00:03:35.449 --> 00:03:40.719 of his his look, his direction. And I realized 00:03:40.719 --> 00:03:44.740 how much I had missed it. And he has it in Breaking 00:03:44.740 --> 00:03:47.759 Bad. He has it in Better Call Saul. There's a 00:03:47.759 --> 00:03:51.439 distinct way that he directs a scene. And it 00:03:51.439 --> 00:03:53.520 really came out just immediately off the bat. 00:03:53.539 --> 00:03:55.719 And it felt very comfortable. It felt really 00:03:55.719 --> 00:03:58.419 great to sort of see him come back in that way. 00:03:58.960 --> 00:04:01.080 And when the show starts, essentially it starts 00:04:01.080 --> 00:04:04.419 off with... These scientists they are at the 00:04:04.419 --> 00:04:06.699 array they come across some sort of a signal 00:04:06.699 --> 00:04:13.000 and it's Also plays to Vince's comedic side It's 00:04:13.000 --> 00:04:15.979 not too serious in the moment. These scientists 00:04:15.979 --> 00:04:19.480 are kind of goofy and funny and yet they're dealing 00:04:19.480 --> 00:04:22.139 with something that's Quite interesting and quite 00:04:22.139 --> 00:04:24.720 serious. You have a signal that's coming from 00:04:24.720 --> 00:04:28.560 600 million light -years away Apparently it may 00:04:28.560 --> 00:04:31.579 have been pointed towards us for a very, very 00:04:31.579 --> 00:04:33.759 long time, longer than we've been on this planet, 00:04:34.240 --> 00:04:37.360 and we are just now picking it up. The entire 00:04:37.360 --> 00:04:39.360 opening sequence is essentially these scientists 00:04:39.360 --> 00:04:41.819 trying to figure out what this signal is. It's 00:04:41.819 --> 00:04:44.579 a very entertaining sequence. It's very fun, 00:04:45.019 --> 00:04:48.889 but then it starts to... get serious as the episode 00:04:48.889 --> 00:04:51.370 goes further. One thing I want to point out at 00:04:51.370 --> 00:04:53.490 this point in the show is the show literally 00:04:53.490 --> 00:04:57.129 begins with a sort of a timer mechanic. And I 00:04:57.129 --> 00:04:59.329 believe he's probably going to bring this through 00:04:59.329 --> 00:05:02.810 as the series goes. And as an Easter egg hunter, 00:05:03.269 --> 00:05:05.870 I like little things like this. So it makes me 00:05:05.870 --> 00:05:08.310 wonder why did he start the clock at this particular 00:05:08.310 --> 00:05:11.990 time and why do we get a scene beginning with 00:05:11.990 --> 00:05:15.100 a particular time? Speaking of Easter eggs, I 00:05:15.100 --> 00:05:17.910 guess I wanted to point out one specific portion 00:05:17.910 --> 00:05:21.449 of this cold open with the scientists as the 00:05:21.449 --> 00:05:24.589 scene cut it does sort of a match cut to More 00:05:24.589 --> 00:05:27.029 scientists being there and then another one to 00:05:27.029 --> 00:05:29.930 even more scientists being there It's almost 00:05:29.930 --> 00:05:33.689 the exact same way that the virus that is not 00:05:33.689 --> 00:05:36.529 a virus spreads as well, right? There's two scientists 00:05:36.529 --> 00:05:39.149 and there's six scientists and then there's 12 00:05:39.149 --> 00:05:41.930 scientists in this tiny little research cabin 00:05:41.930 --> 00:05:45.129 It's almost like a bit of an Easter egg in itself 00:05:45.129 --> 00:05:48.519 Absolutely Another thing I'll point out with 00:05:48.519 --> 00:05:50.800 the show is not only the timer sequences that 00:05:50.800 --> 00:05:54.639 we have throughout but also the unnerving and 00:05:54.639 --> 00:05:59.600 uneasy sense of Symmetry in the show it really 00:05:59.600 --> 00:06:03.360 starts early on as we break this first act and 00:06:03.360 --> 00:06:05.519 the scientists discover It's an RNA sequence. 00:06:05.519 --> 00:06:09.819 They start using rats and other creatures to 00:06:09.819 --> 00:06:11.860 experiment with this RNA sequence trying to figure 00:06:11.860 --> 00:06:14.500 out what it is during their experiments with 00:06:14.500 --> 00:06:18.279 the rats the I'll say trope happens where you 00:06:18.279 --> 00:06:20.899 have a scientist working with a rat that they 00:06:20.899 --> 00:06:24.439 thought was dead and they open up the cage and 00:06:24.439 --> 00:06:26.699 they bring the rat out and they're like no there's 00:06:26.699 --> 00:06:29.360 a there's a subtle heartbeat there and the rat 00:06:29.360 --> 00:06:33.300 bites her and she starts to have these convulsions 00:06:33.300 --> 00:06:36.459 and we get to sort of see it in the background 00:06:36.759 --> 00:06:39.079 Another thing Vince does a really marvelous job, 00:06:39.399 --> 00:06:41.060 especially with the first couple of episodes 00:06:41.060 --> 00:06:43.579 of Pluribus, are the action's not necessarily 00:06:43.579 --> 00:06:46.199 happening at the forefront of the camera. A lot 00:06:46.199 --> 00:06:48.279 of the action is happening in the background. 00:06:48.420 --> 00:06:50.720 And so you're more concentrated on what's happening 00:06:50.720 --> 00:06:53.279 in that background than you are with what's happening 00:06:53.279 --> 00:06:55.459 in the foreground. And I think that that was 00:06:55.459 --> 00:06:57.379 brilliantly done and illustrated in this scene 00:06:57.379 --> 00:07:00.160 where one of her coworkers is not looking and 00:07:00.160 --> 00:07:02.759 she's in the background going through this fit. 00:07:03.139 --> 00:07:06.629 And after she goes through this fit, This neat 00:07:06.629 --> 00:07:09.889 scene comes up where we see her walking down 00:07:09.889 --> 00:07:11.730 the hallway as one of the security guards in 00:07:11.730 --> 00:07:13.670 the building is just trying to get something 00:07:13.670 --> 00:07:15.689 out of a vending machine and it's not working. 00:07:15.910 --> 00:07:18.490 It's the, again, trope of the item not coming 00:07:18.490 --> 00:07:20.509 out of the vending machine and he's frustrated. 00:07:20.870 --> 00:07:22.810 And she comes over to him and gives him a big 00:07:22.810 --> 00:07:26.069 kiss on the lips. And then he starts to convulse. 00:07:26.329 --> 00:07:29.850 And you can see that there is sort of a invasion 00:07:29.850 --> 00:07:32.490 of the body snatchers scenario right off the 00:07:32.490 --> 00:07:35.149 bat. But instead of them being angry and evil, 00:07:35.529 --> 00:07:38.269 they're all happy. And so again, you have comedy 00:07:38.269 --> 00:07:41.250 that gets to be played off of that concept, but 00:07:41.250 --> 00:07:43.110 then there's also a lot of darkness that gets 00:07:43.110 --> 00:07:45.269 played off of that concept as well. So again, 00:07:45.550 --> 00:07:47.709 brilliant on him to bring this kind of a story 00:07:47.709 --> 00:07:49.569 to the television and give us something a little 00:07:49.569 --> 00:07:51.569 bit different to watch other than a lot of the 00:07:51.569 --> 00:07:53.649 stuff that's gone out there. But to just sum 00:07:53.649 --> 00:07:58.329 up, that facility is taken over by... the kissers, 00:07:58.550 --> 00:08:01.470 I'll say, and more and more people at this military 00:08:01.470 --> 00:08:04.250 facility are taken over. And this is again where 00:08:04.250 --> 00:08:08.069 that unease of symmetry comes in. They aren't 00:08:08.069 --> 00:08:09.930 speaking to each other, but they're all working 00:08:09.930 --> 00:08:12.810 hand in hand in all of these tasks as though 00:08:12.810 --> 00:08:15.529 they are all pre -planned and perfectly timed. 00:08:16.050 --> 00:08:18.269 The sequence where you have half a dozen people 00:08:18.269 --> 00:08:20.810 on one side of the table. another half a dozen 00:08:20.810 --> 00:08:24.370 on the other and ones are taking a DNA swab to 00:08:24.370 --> 00:08:26.410 their mouth and then the people on the other 00:08:26.410 --> 00:08:28.189 side of the table are holding a Petri dish and 00:08:28.189 --> 00:08:30.189 they wipe it onto the Petri dish and then they 00:08:30.189 --> 00:08:32.590 close it and put it into a box and you can see 00:08:32.590 --> 00:08:34.330 what they're doing is essentially shipping these 00:08:34.330 --> 00:08:38.409 things off to somewhere and That symmetry again 00:08:38.409 --> 00:08:40.490 comes in play. It's almost like a ballet You 00:08:40.490 --> 00:08:42.230 have these people that are doing these exact 00:08:42.230 --> 00:08:45.210 same movements over and over again, but not quite 00:08:45.210 --> 00:08:48.019 exactly right And the reason I want to point 00:08:48.019 --> 00:08:51.240 that out is because I think that I would like 00:08:51.240 --> 00:08:54.159 to posit a theory toward the show at this point. 00:08:54.299 --> 00:08:59.559 And that theory is as much as this, we'll call 00:08:59.559 --> 00:09:02.000 it a virus, but they don't say that it's a virus, 00:09:02.220 --> 00:09:06.779 as much as this virus is symmetrically put together, 00:09:07.100 --> 00:09:11.259 it also makes really interesting mistakes that 00:09:11.259 --> 00:09:14.019 seemingly shouldn't happen in a perfectly symmetrical 00:09:14.019 --> 00:09:17.610 being. So that's where we are with those first 00:09:17.610 --> 00:09:19.950 two, I would say scenes or acts that really get 00:09:19.950 --> 00:09:24.350 us literally elbow deep into the lore of this 00:09:24.350 --> 00:09:26.730 show right off the bat. And I'll say this as 00:09:26.730 --> 00:09:30.070 well, thank you for just letting us jump into 00:09:30.070 --> 00:09:32.870 it with these first couple of episodes and not 00:09:32.870 --> 00:09:35.210 stretching it out and making it into, I'm just 00:09:35.210 --> 00:09:37.970 gonna point it out from where you have to spend 00:09:37.970 --> 00:09:40.110 three seasons trying to figure out one or two 00:09:40.110 --> 00:09:42.470 things. Thanks for just saying, here's where 00:09:42.470 --> 00:09:46.029 we are, here's what's happening. And now what? 00:09:46.250 --> 00:09:49.809 And I think that that's really brilliant. Yeah, 00:09:49.850 --> 00:09:52.850 it seems like he's earnest and eager to get this 00:09:52.850 --> 00:09:55.250 story started. You can tell by how it's made 00:09:55.250 --> 00:09:58.850 that he's almost excited to show us where it's 00:09:58.850 --> 00:10:02.210 going. I think after this first episode in particular, 00:10:02.549 --> 00:10:04.950 I was just completely enthralled with all the 00:10:04.950 --> 00:10:07.769 possibilities. And there's just so much that 00:10:07.769 --> 00:10:10.409 could happen within this world that he's created 00:10:10.409 --> 00:10:13.250 just in these first two episodes. It's just a 00:10:13.250 --> 00:10:17.070 very broad avenue for a lot of different stories 00:10:17.070 --> 00:10:19.809 to be told as well. And I think, you know, there's 00:10:19.809 --> 00:10:23.720 certainly some potential here for a lot of great 00:10:23.720 --> 00:10:27.120 character work as it sort of hones in on a very 00:10:27.120 --> 00:10:29.100 few amount of characters. And I think if we're 00:10:29.100 --> 00:10:30.779 going to start talking characters, I think we 00:10:30.779 --> 00:10:32.779 need to start talking about Carol a little bit 00:10:32.779 --> 00:10:35.159 as she's introduced. Of course, she's played 00:10:35.159 --> 00:10:39.399 by Rhea Seehorn, who was in Better Glossal, and 00:10:39.399 --> 00:10:42.740 she does a really fantastic job in this first 00:10:42.740 --> 00:10:45.399 episode. She has really given it her all. And 00:10:45.399 --> 00:10:47.519 I think Vince Gilligan had mentioned something 00:10:47.519 --> 00:10:50.679 of I wanted to have her as the focus so that 00:10:50.700 --> 00:10:54.100 Everyone sees her as the superstar that she really 00:10:54.100 --> 00:10:57.059 is and she really brings the performance throughout 00:10:57.059 --> 00:10:59.960 not only in her introduction as a character where 00:10:59.960 --> 00:11:04.580 she's a despondent writer who is on tour with 00:11:04.580 --> 00:11:09.320 her manager slash romantic partner into when 00:11:09.320 --> 00:11:11.759 shit really kind of hits the fan here and I like 00:11:11.759 --> 00:11:15.139 how it Gives a little bit of breathing room for 00:11:15.139 --> 00:11:18.000 the couple characters. But again, we're jumping 00:11:18.000 --> 00:11:21.179 right into the action and we're jumping right 00:11:21.179 --> 00:11:25.659 into the plot as it's unfolding. And that scene 00:11:25.659 --> 00:11:30.000 where Carol's at the bar with her partner and 00:11:30.000 --> 00:11:34.399 they walk outside to see the contrails from the 00:11:34.399 --> 00:11:37.379 airplanes overhead. Absolutely. And just us as 00:11:37.379 --> 00:11:39.720 the audience knowing, okay, it's coming now. 00:11:39.740 --> 00:11:41.899 We're here and it's time to get this thing kicked 00:11:41.899 --> 00:11:46.480 off. And the way that they introduce her as a 00:11:46.480 --> 00:11:50.070 character as well, I think is brilliant. She's 00:11:50.070 --> 00:11:51.889 at a Barnes and Noble reading from her book. 00:11:51.929 --> 00:11:54.590 She's an author, and these are obviously pretty 00:11:54.590 --> 00:11:58.250 in -depth romance novels. Her entire crowd are 00:11:58.250 --> 00:12:01.070 middle -aged white women who adore her and adore 00:12:01.070 --> 00:12:03.809 these books, and the whole sequence there at 00:12:03.809 --> 00:12:07.019 Barnes and Noble is. So cheeky and so funny because 00:12:07.019 --> 00:12:09.080 it's almost like they bring up every version 00:12:09.080 --> 00:12:11.840 of a fan that you could when she goes to sign 00:12:11.840 --> 00:12:14.200 the books. You have a guy that brings a real 00:12:14.200 --> 00:12:17.299 sword to her and talks about the in -depth nature 00:12:17.299 --> 00:12:19.580 of the boat that she has in her book and all 00:12:19.580 --> 00:12:22.059 this stuff. It is just so brilliant and again 00:12:22.059 --> 00:12:25.139 so cheeky and it shows that you can have a good 00:12:25.139 --> 00:12:28.460 strong sense of real human humor in this moment 00:12:28.460 --> 00:12:31.480 that is also kind of strange. You also get a 00:12:31.480 --> 00:12:33.460 real strong sense of the relationship between 00:12:33.460 --> 00:12:37.299 Carol and her part. that it goes first from her 00:12:37.299 --> 00:12:39.820 partner seeming to just be her manager or whatever 00:12:39.820 --> 00:12:43.720 to you can see that they have such a close relationship 00:12:43.720 --> 00:12:46.500 that they literally give each other shit and 00:12:46.500 --> 00:12:49.159 I love that because you don't see that very often 00:12:49.159 --> 00:12:52.100 I think in relationships on screen but these 00:12:52.100 --> 00:12:54.299 two are literally giving each other real shit 00:12:54.299 --> 00:12:57.120 like real people in a real relationship and it's 00:12:57.120 --> 00:12:59.740 funny and it seems convincing in the way that 00:12:59.740 --> 00:13:01.519 I'm like, yeah, I believe that these people have 00:13:01.519 --> 00:13:03.519 been together for years because of the level 00:13:03.519 --> 00:13:04.840 of shit that they give each other. And I thought 00:13:04.840 --> 00:13:07.220 that was really smart and cool. Things, of course, 00:13:07.299 --> 00:13:10.279 turn sideways at the bar. And we get to notice 00:13:10.279 --> 00:13:12.919 a couple of things here. So I want to bring the 00:13:12.919 --> 00:13:16.019 time sequences back up. When the series starts, 00:13:16.059 --> 00:13:20.259 it starts at 439 days. Then at 71 days, we're 00:13:20.259 --> 00:13:24.000 in the lab. And then at 29 days is when the rat 00:13:24.000 --> 00:13:27.360 bites Jen and she becomes patient zero. and then 00:13:27.360 --> 00:13:29.840 at three hours and six minutes we have Carol 00:13:29.840 --> 00:13:32.519 and Helen arriving at the airport and then we 00:13:32.519 --> 00:13:35.139 go to the bar. So we have these times that are 00:13:35.139 --> 00:13:39.070 very much laid out and When she's at the bar, 00:13:39.330 --> 00:13:42.110 she asks her partner, give me a cigarette. I 00:13:42.110 --> 00:13:43.590 want to go out and have a cigarette. So the two 00:13:43.590 --> 00:13:46.009 of them go out and have a cigarette. And this 00:13:46.009 --> 00:13:48.110 pickup truck, which, by the way, is in pristine 00:13:48.110 --> 00:13:50.610 shapes. Awesome looking C10, I think is what 00:13:50.610 --> 00:13:54.549 it was. A Chevy C10 from probably 78, 79. Beautiful. 00:13:55.289 --> 00:13:58.169 Comes in and just slowly crashes into some parked 00:13:58.169 --> 00:14:02.299 cars. And our main character, Carol, runs over 00:14:02.299 --> 00:14:04.440 to help him, but you can see that he's seizing 00:14:04.440 --> 00:14:07.980 in the front seat. And we as the audience know 00:14:07.980 --> 00:14:10.240 what's going on here, but she certainly doesn't. 00:14:10.299 --> 00:14:12.220 And this is, again, one of those brilliant scenes 00:14:12.220 --> 00:14:14.779 where we're more looking over her shoulder as 00:14:14.779 --> 00:14:16.960 she's tending to this guy at the car, but we 00:14:16.960 --> 00:14:20.340 see... her partner Helen in the background holding 00:14:20.340 --> 00:14:22.740 a cell phone and looking at it. And she's yelling 00:14:22.740 --> 00:14:24.240 at her, she's like, Helen, get off the phone, 00:14:24.360 --> 00:14:26.179 get off the phone, I need your help, call 911. 00:14:26.779 --> 00:14:29.039 And I don't know how they do this, but it always 00:14:29.039 --> 00:14:33.019 blows my mind. Helen literally falls flat backward 00:14:33.019 --> 00:14:36.200 onto her back and head, no support, nothing. 00:14:36.860 --> 00:14:39.620 And so Carol knows immediately something is absolutely 00:14:39.620 --> 00:14:43.899 wrong. And so. She sees that her partner is struggling. 00:14:44.159 --> 00:14:46.740 Her partner now starts to seize. This is a very 00:14:46.740 --> 00:14:49.039 interesting detail. She goes to grab her phone 00:14:49.039 --> 00:14:53.320 and the phone is broken. So she can't see or 00:14:53.320 --> 00:14:55.820 hear what her partner had seen or heard on the 00:14:55.820 --> 00:14:59.019 phone. So we still don't know how that happened. 00:14:59.539 --> 00:15:02.080 And she goes running into the bar to ask. someone 00:15:02.080 --> 00:15:05.340 to call 911 and guess what the entire bar is 00:15:05.340 --> 00:15:08.419 seizing and this scene again brilliant the first 00:15:08.419 --> 00:15:10.480 thing we actually see is she comes in through 00:15:10.480 --> 00:15:12.620 the door and we see these two glasses of beer 00:15:12.620 --> 00:15:15.320 that are shaking and then the camera flips more 00:15:15.320 --> 00:15:18.200 over to her view and it's a waitress holding 00:15:18.200 --> 00:15:20.879 up a serving tray with two 16 ounce beers that 00:15:20.879 --> 00:15:22.960 are shaking but they're not dropping she's just 00:15:22.960 --> 00:15:26.539 seizing locked in place again just brilliant 00:15:26.539 --> 00:15:28.759 smart never seen anything like that before pretty 00:15:28.759 --> 00:15:31.860 cool goes into the place, gets a phone, tries 00:15:31.860 --> 00:15:34.399 to make a phone call, can't make a phone call. 00:15:34.539 --> 00:15:36.759 She goes out and she just wants to get away from 00:15:36.759 --> 00:15:39.299 this place. So she takes her partner, throws 00:15:39.299 --> 00:15:41.539 her in the back of the truck, essentially, long 00:15:41.539 --> 00:15:45.279 story short, and takes off. The show itself would 00:15:45.279 --> 00:15:48.440 call that zero hour because what we see after 00:15:48.440 --> 00:15:52.179 this, now the clock is counting up instead of 00:15:52.179 --> 00:15:55.039 counting down. And so things switch significantly 00:15:55.039 --> 00:16:00.549 after this sort of zero hour. And that's a really 00:16:00.549 --> 00:16:03.029 great scene. I think there's a couple conversations 00:16:03.029 --> 00:16:06.970 that Carol has with her partner One being they're 00:16:06.970 --> 00:16:09.750 talking about Carol's unreleased book. That's 00:16:09.750 --> 00:16:13.570 not sort of this romantic Fantasy that she's 00:16:13.570 --> 00:16:15.629 been previously writing. It's essentially her 00:16:15.629 --> 00:16:18.710 serious novel and that novel goes by the name 00:16:18.710 --> 00:16:22.029 of bitter chrysalis I thought that was a really 00:16:22.029 --> 00:16:24.970 excellent name for a novel, but getting to think 00:16:24.970 --> 00:16:29.460 about what that might mean in the full story 00:16:29.460 --> 00:16:34.759 of this season or the series After this happens 00:16:34.759 --> 00:16:37.639 and and you know once we see that Carol essentially 00:16:37.639 --> 00:16:41.019 blames the hive mind for losing her partner rightfully 00:16:41.019 --> 00:16:43.759 I think she's a very bitter person at that point 00:16:44.460 --> 00:16:47.639 And we see that sort of anger that she has towards 00:16:47.639 --> 00:16:49.759 the hive mind and towards all of these events 00:16:49.759 --> 00:16:52.460 that are happening affect things in a very broad 00:16:52.460 --> 00:16:55.440 sense. But that brings up the second portion 00:16:55.440 --> 00:16:57.620 of the title, which is chrysalis, right? So we 00:16:57.620 --> 00:17:00.500 understand that she is most likely this bitter 00:17:00.500 --> 00:17:04.880 chrysalis. And it makes you wonder what is Carol 00:17:04.880 --> 00:17:06.960 going to be when that chrysalis breaks open? 00:17:07.079 --> 00:17:09.640 What is the butterfly that comes from the bitter 00:17:09.640 --> 00:17:12.460 chrysalis itself? I don't think that's a mistake 00:17:12.460 --> 00:17:15.319 or that's just a bit of seasoning on what's going 00:17:15.319 --> 00:17:17.680 on here. I think that's going to come into play 00:17:17.680 --> 00:17:19.460 and be a theme throughout this first season, 00:17:19.579 --> 00:17:22.519 if not the entire series. Carol's partner also 00:17:22.519 --> 00:17:26.480 brings up specifically Finnegan's Wake written 00:17:26.480 --> 00:17:30.380 by James Joyce. a big core of how that is written. 00:17:30.960 --> 00:17:34.240 It's composed of all these different words from, 00:17:34.240 --> 00:17:37.799 I think it's 70 different languages all crammed 00:17:37.799 --> 00:17:42.160 into this single text. But I think the idea of 00:17:42.160 --> 00:17:44.900 language connecting us, just like this hive mind 00:17:44.900 --> 00:17:47.640 connects all of the other humans in the world, 00:17:47.880 --> 00:17:50.880 is going to be a big theme throughout this story 00:17:50.880 --> 00:17:54.160 as well. Everything is purposeful in what this 00:17:54.160 --> 00:17:56.240 guy does. There's nothing that's throw away. 00:17:56.400 --> 00:17:58.759 in anything that he does. And one of the things 00:17:58.759 --> 00:18:02.099 that I wanted to keep an eye on, and I'll have 00:18:02.099 --> 00:18:04.099 to say from my mind, keep an eye on a little 00:18:04.099 --> 00:18:05.980 bit less than some other shows like Severance 00:18:05.980 --> 00:18:08.740 or something like that, but there are what you 00:18:08.740 --> 00:18:11.539 might call Easter eggs. those little things that 00:18:11.539 --> 00:18:14.960 can drop that can either be the plane tail number 00:18:14.960 --> 00:18:18.660 N5039 matches the Kenyon aircraft crash that 00:18:18.660 --> 00:18:21.859 happened in that particular year that's a real 00:18:21.859 --> 00:18:25.920 plane crash. Also having the C -span crawl across 00:18:25.920 --> 00:18:29.839 the bottom when we have a scene later is really 00:18:29.839 --> 00:18:31.980 important and a number of other things. So just 00:18:31.980 --> 00:18:34.619 kind of keeping your eyes open for. Some of those 00:18:34.619 --> 00:18:36.539 little things I think will either pay off later 00:18:36.539 --> 00:18:39.799 on or at least give you a little bit of joy from 00:18:39.799 --> 00:18:45.059 a Vince Gilligan perspective. So after zero hour, 00:18:45.839 --> 00:18:47.640 Carol's trying to take Helen to the hospital. 00:18:47.680 --> 00:18:49.519 When she gets to the hospital, she sees everyone 00:18:49.519 --> 00:18:52.769 there is also affected. and is shocked and terrified 00:18:52.769 --> 00:18:55.349 by that. And as she makes her way out of the 00:18:55.349 --> 00:18:58.329 hospital, what happens is now you have the flip 00:18:58.329 --> 00:19:01.950 where these folks are no longer catatonic and 00:19:01.950 --> 00:19:04.930 essentially having a seizure of some sort, but 00:19:04.930 --> 00:19:06.789 you could see them literally coming out of it. 00:19:06.809 --> 00:19:08.569 They'll even run their hand over their face like 00:19:08.569 --> 00:19:11.190 they just woke up. And then they'll have this. 00:19:11.369 --> 00:19:14.829 odd smirk smile on their face and now they all 00:19:14.829 --> 00:19:18.470 at times speak together in unison and not only 00:19:18.470 --> 00:19:20.369 do they speak together in unison this is our 00:19:20.369 --> 00:19:22.589 first time that we get a sense of that hive mind 00:19:22.589 --> 00:19:25.069 right where she's trying to get back into the 00:19:25.069 --> 00:19:29.089 truck and they say all at the same time carol 00:19:29.089 --> 00:19:31.799 we're just trying to help you And what's really 00:19:31.799 --> 00:19:33.759 awesome is she doesn't do the typical horror 00:19:33.759 --> 00:19:35.980 movie trope where she's like, how did you know 00:19:35.980 --> 00:19:38.880 my name? She literally looks right, looks left 00:19:38.880 --> 00:19:41.299 and jumps right back into the truck and peels 00:19:41.299 --> 00:19:44.119 out of there as quickly as possible. And it lends 00:19:44.119 --> 00:19:48.200 itself to her character. being the sort of, I 00:19:48.200 --> 00:19:50.819 don't trust anybody. You get a lot of that from 00:19:50.819 --> 00:19:53.440 her, her sort of disdain for people. She even 00:19:53.440 --> 00:19:57.000 calls her own fans morons and idiots for reading 00:19:57.000 --> 00:20:00.039 this drivel. So she's very down on the world, 00:20:00.299 --> 00:20:02.980 down on other people, down on herself, and we 00:20:02.980 --> 00:20:05.380 don't know why. quite yet because she has this 00:20:05.380 --> 00:20:07.559 lovely partner. She does have a successful writing 00:20:07.559 --> 00:20:10.140 career. We do get sort of an answer as we make 00:20:10.140 --> 00:20:11.920 our way through these couple of episodes a little 00:20:11.920 --> 00:20:14.559 bit later. The hospital interaction is very fascinating 00:20:14.559 --> 00:20:17.299 because then she goes home. And when she gets 00:20:17.299 --> 00:20:20.799 home, she rolls up and she doesn't have her keys, 00:20:20.839 --> 00:20:23.559 so she's trying to break in. And this is a horror 00:20:23.559 --> 00:20:25.799 creepy moment, but you have these two kids next 00:20:25.799 --> 00:20:28.519 door that are in like their PJs speaking at the 00:20:28.519 --> 00:20:30.720 same time and saying, hey, Carol, remember that 00:20:30.720 --> 00:20:33.099 time you were locked out and you decided to hide 00:20:33.099 --> 00:20:35.960 a key underneath the pot by the front door? It's 00:20:35.960 --> 00:20:39.059 still there. You can use it again. Super terrifying. 00:20:39.140 --> 00:20:42.200 How do these people know these details about 00:20:42.200 --> 00:20:44.680 her that she and one other person might know? 00:20:44.799 --> 00:20:48.579 Very, very. and I like that she's, in my opinion, 00:20:48.720 --> 00:20:53.000 being very realistic in her behavior toward this 00:20:53.000 --> 00:20:54.660 interaction that she's having with these people 00:20:54.660 --> 00:20:57.980 because this is the reaction I would have. And 00:20:57.980 --> 00:21:00.240 we see later that people have a different reaction 00:21:00.240 --> 00:21:02.960 to this behavior, but I'm looking at this very 00:21:02.960 --> 00:21:05.799 much like she's looking at it and this is horrible. 00:21:06.220 --> 00:21:08.819 This is obviously some sort of a takeover of 00:21:08.819 --> 00:21:11.119 some kind. These people aren't who they were 00:21:11.119 --> 00:21:13.640 before. This is terrifying and something needs 00:21:13.640 --> 00:21:16.559 to be done about it. And there's an interesting 00:21:16.559 --> 00:21:18.799 thing that happened. She tells the kids, leave 00:21:18.799 --> 00:21:21.519 me alone. Just leave me alone. And they say, 00:21:22.640 --> 00:21:24.619 oh, don't worry, Carol. We'll be out of here 00:21:24.619 --> 00:21:26.299 in just a minute. And you think it's just the 00:21:26.299 --> 00:21:27.920 two kids going back home and going back to bed 00:21:27.920 --> 00:21:30.700 or whatever. No. She lives on a cul -de -sac 00:21:30.700 --> 00:21:33.099 and everyone that lives on that cul -de -sac 00:21:33.099 --> 00:21:35.539 all leave their house at the same time, get into 00:21:35.539 --> 00:21:37.880 their cars at the same time. And again, it's 00:21:37.880 --> 00:21:40.539 like a ballet of cars. They all pull into the 00:21:40.539 --> 00:21:42.839 cul -de -sac at the same time and all pull out 00:21:42.839 --> 00:21:45.119 at the exact same time. So it's that unnerving 00:21:45.119 --> 00:21:48.180 symmetry that's part of the show that, again, 00:21:48.339 --> 00:21:50.660 another brilliant scene here that really illustrated 00:21:50.660 --> 00:21:54.119 that. And she proceeds to try to settle in at 00:21:54.119 --> 00:21:56.099 home as best she can. She locks all the doors, 00:21:56.220 --> 00:21:58.700 locks the windows, shuts the drapes, all of that. 00:21:58.509 --> 00:22:02.109 that stuff, and we get a sense early on that 00:22:02.109 --> 00:22:04.609 she's a drinker. Her partner wouldn't let her 00:22:04.609 --> 00:22:06.630 drive earlier, even though she only had one drink. 00:22:07.029 --> 00:22:09.450 When we get to the bar, she's insisting her partner 00:22:09.450 --> 00:22:11.930 drink, but her partner doesn't want to, but she 00:22:11.930 --> 00:22:15.910 is definitely going to. And she's told at this 00:22:15.910 --> 00:22:18.309 point, as she's flipping through the television, 00:22:18.549 --> 00:22:20.630 she sees that none of the channels are working 00:22:20.630 --> 00:22:23.789 except for one. And it looks like it's at the 00:22:23.789 --> 00:22:26.390 White House, and it looks like a man is standing 00:22:26.390 --> 00:22:29.099 behind. the partition or the microphone stand 00:22:29.099 --> 00:22:31.500 there and just waiting. And then you see right 00:22:31.500 --> 00:22:33.759 across the crawl at the bottom, Carol, when you're 00:22:33.759 --> 00:22:38.079 ready, give us a call at this number. And I mean, 00:22:38.240 --> 00:22:42.619 again, funny, but unnerving. And also I have 00:22:42.619 --> 00:22:45.900 to ask you, did you call the number? I've not, 00:22:45.980 --> 00:22:48.619 no, but I did see that it is indeed a working 00:22:48.619 --> 00:22:52.710 number and it has a message for. Carol to let 00:22:52.710 --> 00:22:54.609 them know when she's ready to start talking. 00:22:54.730 --> 00:22:57.650 And I believe if you say yes or something on 00:22:57.650 --> 00:23:01.190 the call, it sends you a text message. But yeah, 00:23:01.250 --> 00:23:03.750 another really great little piece of world building 00:23:03.750 --> 00:23:07.089 there. Well, I called it and it does say, hello, 00:23:07.089 --> 00:23:08.849 Carol. If there's anything that you need from 00:23:08.849 --> 00:23:11.789 us, please press zero and we will provide it 00:23:11.789 --> 00:23:15.470 for you. It reminded me of Mr. Robot and a number 00:23:15.470 --> 00:23:17.549 of other shows that were clever enough to actually 00:23:17.549 --> 00:23:20.930 use real numbers. I don't believe there's a 555 00:23:20.930 --> 00:23:23.069 number in this show. And I don't know about you, 00:23:23.069 --> 00:23:25.150 that is a trope that most certainly pulls me 00:23:25.150 --> 00:23:28.609 out of a film. If you are gonna use 555, then 00:23:28.609 --> 00:23:32.190 just don't show the number. It'll pull me out 00:23:32.190 --> 00:23:37.369 faster than a grab and throw. So at this point 00:23:37.369 --> 00:23:39.130 she decides to go ahead and call the number and 00:23:39.130 --> 00:23:42.259 we get. an information dump. And I want to point 00:23:42.259 --> 00:23:44.960 out something here really important about Rhea 00:23:44.960 --> 00:23:49.779 and how much of a phenomenal actor she is. The 00:23:49.779 --> 00:23:51.779 first thing that I liked about her appearance 00:23:51.779 --> 00:23:54.440 on the screen when we first see her is she has 00:23:54.440 --> 00:23:58.460 this smirk about her that I recall from Better 00:23:58.460 --> 00:24:02.119 Call Saul. And it reminds me of our favorite 00:24:02.119 --> 00:24:04.839 gal from Severance as well. She has such a great 00:24:04.839 --> 00:24:09.019 smirk. And Rhea just, man. She's another one 00:24:09.019 --> 00:24:11.160 of those fantastic actors that you can just show 00:24:11.160 --> 00:24:15.619 her face and she can act the hell out of whatever 00:24:15.619 --> 00:24:19.720 that scene is but she gets such a fun cool character 00:24:19.720 --> 00:24:25.359 here that is so cynical and so angry and so put 00:24:25.359 --> 00:24:30.240 off that it guides all of her decisions as she's 00:24:30.279 --> 00:24:32.680 navigating this new world that we're in. And 00:24:32.680 --> 00:24:35.079 so she's talking to this guy through the television, 00:24:35.420 --> 00:24:37.160 essentially, she calls a number, talking to the 00:24:37.160 --> 00:24:40.619 dude, and she's like, uh -huh, yep, uh -huh. 00:24:40.640 --> 00:24:42.420 And he goes, well, hey, you know, I feel like 00:24:42.420 --> 00:24:45.200 we've been doing all the talking here, as he 00:24:45.200 --> 00:24:46.980 describes what we've already mentioned before, 00:24:47.140 --> 00:24:50.039 that the scientists found the RNA sequence, they 00:24:50.039 --> 00:24:52.519 did the thing, and now everybody's got it. She 00:24:52.519 --> 00:24:56.940 literally just goes, yeah, what the? What the 00:24:56.940 --> 00:25:00.940 fuck is going on here? And she just stretches 00:25:00.940 --> 00:25:03.119 this thing out and you can just feel it. And 00:25:03.119 --> 00:25:05.059 I'm right there with you. What the fuck is going 00:25:05.059 --> 00:25:07.440 on here? And he explains it in an interesting 00:25:07.440 --> 00:25:10.160 way. He says, we're not aliens. We're still the 00:25:10.160 --> 00:25:14.019 humans that were here. This sequence has aligned 00:25:14.019 --> 00:25:16.599 us in a way to where all of our minds are connected. 00:25:16.720 --> 00:25:19.519 It is a hive mind scenario. And she goes, so 00:25:19.519 --> 00:25:21.720 this is an alien takeover. He's like, nope, there's 00:25:21.720 --> 00:25:24.660 no aliens on this planet, he says, by the way. 00:25:26.250 --> 00:25:29.069 I thought that was very cool and clear. And she 00:25:29.069 --> 00:25:30.589 goes, well, how does this work? And he goes, 00:25:30.730 --> 00:25:33.730 we don't know. We just know that it does. And 00:25:33.730 --> 00:25:35.569 I thought that was another brilliant way to answer 00:25:35.569 --> 00:25:38.549 it without answering it. So just to build that 00:25:38.549 --> 00:25:43.609 in so early in a show is awesome. We know right 00:25:43.609 --> 00:25:46.730 off the bat, this is what this thing. is and 00:25:46.730 --> 00:25:50.450 how it sort of works. So roll with us. So she 00:25:50.450 --> 00:25:52.950 has this conversation with David Taffler until 00:25:52.950 --> 00:25:54.950 the point to where she's absolutely sick of it. 00:25:55.069 --> 00:25:57.289 And we get to close out this first episode with 00:25:57.289 --> 00:26:00.809 essentially her getting hammered, which is probably 00:26:00.809 --> 00:26:03.970 what I would do. We find out a lot of cool things 00:26:03.970 --> 00:26:06.009 and a lot of subtle things, I think, with this. 00:26:06.720 --> 00:26:10.039 conversation with the secretary of agriculture 00:26:10.039 --> 00:26:12.420 or something that they, you know, they've co 00:26:12.420 --> 00:26:15.420 -opted now since the president is no longer alive. 00:26:15.539 --> 00:26:21.019 It's like seven levels deep. He was just around 00:26:21.019 --> 00:26:23.819 and he had a suit on. And he was functioning, 00:26:24.000 --> 00:26:25.880 I think he says too. He's like, he was functioning. 00:26:26.140 --> 00:26:28.400 And I was like, Oh, what does that mean? Yeah. 00:26:28.839 --> 00:26:31.200 But we get a few things in this conversation. 00:26:31.720 --> 00:26:37.569 He confirms that this Signal is in fact extraterrestrial 00:26:37.569 --> 00:26:39.890 which we sort of already knew right at that point 00:26:39.890 --> 00:26:43.509 this signal that was broadcast was indeed Otherworldly 00:26:43.509 --> 00:26:46.049 and he also says it's not a virus. It's more 00:26:46.049 --> 00:26:49.470 like a psychic glue that holds us all together 00:26:49.470 --> 00:26:52.289 I Thought that was pretty interesting. It popped 00:26:52.289 --> 00:26:53.990 a couple theories in my head and I think we'll 00:26:53.990 --> 00:26:55.910 get to that as we hit the end of the episode 00:26:55.910 --> 00:26:59.529 here Okay, but he also Confirms that there are 00:26:59.529 --> 00:27:02.339 indeed other immune My question especially when 00:27:02.339 --> 00:27:05.980 it comes to those that are unaffected It would 00:27:05.980 --> 00:27:08.059 be interesting to see, are there more that we 00:27:08.059 --> 00:27:10.880 don't know about? Can more pop up as time goes 00:27:10.880 --> 00:27:13.779 by? Another thing I would like to know is, why 00:27:13.779 --> 00:27:16.119 have a timer? What is the significance of the 00:27:16.119 --> 00:27:18.220 timer? Is there a significance of the specific 00:27:18.220 --> 00:27:21.000 timestamps? Do they have an effect on what happens 00:27:21.000 --> 00:27:24.839 later on? Does this story go 439 days into the 00:27:24.839 --> 00:27:27.380 future now? And then that's our block of time 00:27:27.380 --> 00:27:30.079 that this situation might happen in? Are we counting 00:27:30.079 --> 00:27:33.140 up to that 439 days now instead of counting down? 00:27:33.440 --> 00:27:35.619 Or is there some other significance? here that 00:27:35.619 --> 00:27:38.279 we need to know why these moments are time stamped 00:27:38.279 --> 00:27:40.839 other than the zero hour and what happens after 00:27:40.839 --> 00:27:43.519 that. So I think all of that stuff kind of leaves 00:27:43.519 --> 00:27:46.180 things that are fun and interesting and make 00:27:46.180 --> 00:27:48.119 you think about different types of theories. 00:27:48.720 --> 00:27:52.539 And again, I think in great Vince Gilligan fashion, 00:27:52.559 --> 00:27:57.160 we have a character here that is not black or 00:27:57.160 --> 00:28:01.700 white. They are very gray. And in fact, our little 00:28:01.700 --> 00:28:05.529 protagonist here is rather angry. and I'm still 00:28:05.529 --> 00:28:10.289 rooting the heck for her. I think it's fantastic 00:28:10.289 --> 00:28:12.390 and I'm leaning into her direction a heck of 00:28:12.390 --> 00:28:15.329 a lot. So overall, do you have any further thoughts 00:28:15.329 --> 00:28:18.170 on this particular episode? And then after having 00:28:18.170 --> 00:28:20.549 looked at this one episode, what are your overall 00:28:20.549 --> 00:28:22.289 thoughts for what you think about the series 00:28:22.289 --> 00:28:25.730 at that point? Yeah, I think a couple things 00:28:25.730 --> 00:28:28.650 here and I think going back to Carol in particular 00:28:28.650 --> 00:28:31.470 her sort of cynical approach to life and not 00:28:31.470 --> 00:28:34.289 only that but the events that come after I think 00:28:34.289 --> 00:28:37.549 some people could see it as Unlikeable in some 00:28:37.549 --> 00:28:39.710 portions, you know, it adds to that sort of grayness 00:28:39.710 --> 00:28:44.109 of the character I thought her actions were completely 00:28:44.109 --> 00:28:46.289 believable though. I think I would have reacted 00:28:46.289 --> 00:28:49.349 in a very similar way Sometimes when you see 00:28:49.349 --> 00:28:52.680 how you would act In that circumstance, it makes 00:28:52.680 --> 00:28:55.339 you annoyed because that might not necessarily 00:28:55.339 --> 00:28:58.759 be the right way to act, but knowing that's how 00:28:58.759 --> 00:29:01.480 you would act as well, you project yourself onto 00:29:01.480 --> 00:29:04.299 the character a little bit. That just exemplifies 00:29:04.299 --> 00:29:08.279 how good Vince Gilligan is at working with very 00:29:08.279 --> 00:29:10.900 three -dimensional characters. I didn't watch 00:29:10.900 --> 00:29:12.900 episode one and two back -to -back, so I watched 00:29:12.900 --> 00:29:16.099 episode one the night before. When I left it, 00:29:16.160 --> 00:29:19.339 Was really thinking mainly about that final conversation 00:29:19.339 --> 00:29:22.279 and this sort of psychic glue thing that the 00:29:22.279 --> 00:29:24.740 hive mind was talking about and it got me to 00:29:24.740 --> 00:29:28.000 thinking a little bit about What had initiated 00:29:28.000 --> 00:29:31.339 all of this, which is this? frequency that has 00:29:31.339 --> 00:29:35.779 these Nucleotides that make up RNA that manufacture 00:29:35.779 --> 00:29:38.799 DNA. It's not a virus. It's something that changed 00:29:38.799 --> 00:29:43.660 our DNA as it is currently but that wouldn't 00:29:43.660 --> 00:29:48.230 necessarily explain how we could share consciousness 00:29:48.230 --> 00:29:50.930 at that point, changing our DNA. In fact, the 00:29:50.930 --> 00:29:55.029 only way I could think of that would really give 00:29:55.029 --> 00:29:59.410 us this power, I guess you could call it, is 00:29:59.410 --> 00:30:05.650 if that aspect of hive mind and consciousness 00:30:05.650 --> 00:30:09.769 beyond ourselves was always there for us. It 00:30:09.769 --> 00:30:12.569 was never something that was given to us. It 00:30:12.569 --> 00:30:15.829 was always the power that humans or even maybe 00:30:15.829 --> 00:30:19.470 just sentient beings in general have. And this 00:30:19.470 --> 00:30:22.349 RNA sequence is just what unlocked it for us 00:30:22.349 --> 00:30:27.170 as if the consciousness is something that exists 00:30:27.170 --> 00:30:29.930 already outside of ourselves. Our own consciousness 00:30:29.930 --> 00:30:33.809 isn't confined to our own heads, you know, and 00:30:33.809 --> 00:30:36.230 it is something that is shared. There is an idea 00:30:36.230 --> 00:30:38.710 of a shared consciousness that already exists. 00:30:38.710 --> 00:30:42.180 And what if this Quote -unquote virus or psychic 00:30:42.180 --> 00:30:45.279 glue was just something unlocked by this change 00:30:45.279 --> 00:30:48.220 in RNA So a lot of questions here and how does 00:30:48.220 --> 00:30:49.859 it spread? You know, it seems to spread through 00:30:49.859 --> 00:30:52.660 saliva and how does change in our DNA spread 00:30:52.660 --> 00:30:55.259 through saliva and spread by kissing? You know 00:30:55.259 --> 00:30:59.039 because we see that the hive mind itself is a 00:30:59.039 --> 00:31:04.299 very courteous being it's a very Loving being 00:31:04.299 --> 00:31:06.839 almost they seem to love each other and they 00:31:06.839 --> 00:31:10.200 love the even the people who are immune they 00:31:10.200 --> 00:31:12.559 seem to have love for as well, but it also brought 00:31:12.559 --> 00:31:15.519 to mind of how they initially spread it by kissing. 00:31:16.039 --> 00:31:19.220 You know, there's something about almost an evolutionary 00:31:19.220 --> 00:31:23.880 act of what kissing means to humans and how spreading 00:31:23.880 --> 00:31:27.599 that love brings us together if love is the first 00:31:27.599 --> 00:31:30.980 step in some sort of shared consciousness. My 00:31:30.980 --> 00:31:33.819 overall thoughts on this is it's fantastic, it's 00:31:33.819 --> 00:31:36.299 mysterious, and anything that gets you really 00:31:36.299 --> 00:31:39.430 thinking about Some of the ideas I had just mentioned 00:31:39.430 --> 00:31:42.089 and consciousness outside of your body and love 00:31:42.089 --> 00:31:44.430 being something that connects us to a hive mind 00:31:44.430 --> 00:31:46.289 is a pretty damn good show, I think, at the end 00:31:46.289 --> 00:31:49.630 of the day. It also brings up a couple of things. 00:31:49.710 --> 00:31:51.630 It's mentioned when she has the conversation 00:31:51.630 --> 00:31:55.650 with the Secretary of Agriculture that as one 00:31:55.650 --> 00:31:58.309 that isn't part of the hive mind, you are your 00:31:58.309 --> 00:32:01.990 own person individually. And it's not explicitly 00:32:01.990 --> 00:32:04.549 explained, but it's definitely saying you're 00:32:04.549 --> 00:32:07.970 apart from us. And she asks, well, what are you 00:32:07.970 --> 00:32:09.890 looking to do here? And he goes, oh, well, we're 00:32:09.890 --> 00:32:12.009 working on it. And she says, what do you mean? 00:32:12.190 --> 00:32:13.970 Oh, we're working on figuring out how to make 00:32:13.970 --> 00:32:16.829 you one of us. And that's when she loses her 00:32:16.829 --> 00:32:18.869 stuff at the end of the episode. And I think 00:32:18.869 --> 00:32:21.230 that that's important. Secondly, similarly to 00:32:21.230 --> 00:32:24.509 what you're talking about, there's this idea 00:32:24.509 --> 00:32:27.190 of what's called the Akashic record and that 00:32:27.190 --> 00:32:29.190 everything that's ever happened or ever will 00:32:29.190 --> 00:32:32.869 happen or is happening now is available to you. 00:32:33.000 --> 00:32:36.220 you just reach into this Akashic record and that 00:32:36.220 --> 00:32:39.500 would be everyone's thoughts memories every invention 00:32:39.500 --> 00:32:42.359 everything Would all be readily available to 00:32:42.359 --> 00:32:44.940 you instantly and they illustrate that in this 00:32:44.940 --> 00:32:48.500 show in a really neat way Because not only are 00:32:48.500 --> 00:32:51.680 they all connected their memories are connected 00:32:51.680 --> 00:32:54.740 as well and I find that really fascinating because 00:32:54.740 --> 00:32:57.900 it does start to make you think about some of 00:32:57.900 --> 00:33:02.059 these other elements of privacy and individuality 00:33:02.200 --> 00:33:06.200 But then it leans in another direction that might 00:33:06.200 --> 00:33:09.200 convince you otherwise. And I find that that 00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:11.400 little line there is very interesting. And I 00:33:11.400 --> 00:33:12.940 think that that's probably one of the best parts 00:33:12.940 --> 00:33:15.039 of the show. So I appreciate you sharing your 00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:16.920 theory on the hive mind thing. I think I agree 00:33:16.920 --> 00:33:19.640 with you as far as that sort of Akashic record 00:33:19.640 --> 00:33:21.740 and that, you know, some people even believe 00:33:21.740 --> 00:33:23.799 that we did have this before. And that's why 00:33:23.799 --> 00:33:25.339 we were able to accomplish some of the things 00:33:25.339 --> 00:33:28.319 in the past that we can't figure out now. And 00:33:28.319 --> 00:33:30.299 if we were able to get back to that, we would 00:33:30.299 --> 00:33:33.559 be more efficient in those ways. And society 00:33:33.559 --> 00:33:36.079 would be, obviously, entirely different, right? 00:33:37.059 --> 00:33:38.799 Beyond that, my friend, do you have anything 00:33:38.799 --> 00:33:42.799 else on the first episode of Pluribus? I think 00:33:42.799 --> 00:33:45.079 that's about it, other than I'm very excited 00:33:45.079 --> 00:33:48.000 to continue on with this show. Excellent. Well, 00:33:48.059 --> 00:33:49.799 I couldn't agree more. I want to thank everybody 00:33:49.799 --> 00:33:52.480 for listening to E! Pluribus Unum, the one and 00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:55.200 only show you need to listen to about... The 00:33:55.200 --> 00:33:57.359 Great Show, blurbous. We'll catch up with you 00:33:57.359 --> 00:33:59.799 guys in the next episode, episode two.