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Today, on Blooming Curious we're
talking about how we can use

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Maslow's hierarchy of needs to
motivate children to love learning.

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This blog post that I wrote on Maslow's
hierarchy of needs and how it links to

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children's motivation, it's probably one
of the most popular posts that I have.

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Now Abraham Maslow was an American
psychologist who in 1943 published a paper

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called The Theory of Human Motivation,
and in this paper, he said that humans

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have an inbuilt desire to fulfill our
own talents and our possibilities.

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And he then takes us through this
hierarchy, almost like a little

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ladder of, so to speak, of how we go
through different stages in life, to

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eventually reach self-actualization.

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Which is the stage related to
personal growth and learning.

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And basically before we can get to
this, the top state, really, there are

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a whole list of bottom ones that we have
to get through before we can actually

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reach the stage of self-actualization.

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And that got me thinking.

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And I wrote about this in one of my
newsletters, actually to my subscribers.

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Is that I remember so clearly one day
we were on holiday in South Africa and

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going to a flea market and there outside
the flea market was a woman sitting

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with her two children under a tree.

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And to me that was such a stark
difference in terms of her kids, which

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just sat so close to her with these
wide open eyes, they didn't move.

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And I contrasted that what I was
seeing inside this park where kids were

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running around and they was screaming
and laughing and have a fun time.

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I thought, why is it that her children are
just sitting there so quietly, so close

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to her, and these other children were
running around having the greatest time.

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And then I realized it was
Maslow's hierarchy of needs.

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Her children hadn't had
their basic needs met yet.

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Whilst those in the playground that
were running around and laughing,

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those kids had their basic needs met.

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And when we think about this
hierarchy of needs, we can see how

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things like poverty, for example,
hold children back from learning.

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And so Maslow's hierarchy of
needs can  be used by us teachers

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and parents, to actually help
children fulfill their talents.

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And their possibilities.

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So as I go through this hierarchy,

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I think it's really important that we
think about curiosity, which is probably

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right at the top of the hierarchy.

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And curiosity is really a
motivation to ask questions.

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And nobody can be motivated to ask
questions unless you have a full

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belly, which starts right down at the
bottom with our physiological needs.

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And for us, it means providing
for our basic needs, feeling safe,

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having enough food, having fresh
water, all those kinds of things.

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And when we think about this
in terms of how children learn.

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Providing proper nutrition
and health care, this supports

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children's physical development.

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And it is fundamental for
their physiological needs.

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Because if you're hungry, when
you don't feel well or you're

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ill, or you haven't slept.

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Or you are living in a home where
your basic physiological needs aren't

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met, there's not going to be much
chance of you coming to school the

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next day, and actually being able
to focus and concentrate and learn.

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In the west, our needs are over met.

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We eat too much.

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So, how does this

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bottom of the pyramid need actually
affect our children's learning.

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Well, I think.

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That we need to start thinking
about what it is that we're

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feeding our kids proper nutrition.

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A child can't focus on learning at school.

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If they're bouncing off the walls
because their whole lunch box was

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just full of sugar and treats.

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If we want children to learn.

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It's all great that they're coming
from homes where they've got food in

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their bellies, that they feel safe.

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That they've, you know,
slept in a nice warm bed.

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But yet we're seeing children come
to school in the west that actually

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are unprepared properly to learn.

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These are kids that are
being raised on sugar.

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It's no wonder that some of these children
can't actually even focus to learn.

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And so for me, one of the first things,
when a child has problems, staying

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focused, is instead of rushing off to a
doctor to get them on an ADHD medication,

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perhaps it might be a good idea just
to look at what their diet is like.

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So when we look here at ourselves
and how we are so fortunate in

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the west to have all our basic
needs,  met most of us anyway.

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We are so very lucky.

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But yet some of those kids are being
fed incorrectly and that does not

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set them up for proper learning.

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Now the next step up is of course,
safety and security, providing

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a safe and secure environment
so that children feel protected.

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This reduces their anxiety.

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It's also about setting boundaries for
kids to help make life predictable.

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Children thrive on boundaries.

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And there's this fabulous book
that I read many years ago

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called Boundaries for Kids, I think.

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And  I think it's written
by doctors, Townsend.

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It's a fabulous book and it really
helped me to be a better parent because

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it really showed and highlighted the
fact that children thrive when they

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have boundaries, children's thrive
when life is predictable, when they

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know what's going to happen next.

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When they know that when you walk through
their door or when then they walk through

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a classroom, they know what's coming.

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You know, for children who live in homes
that are unpredictable or that live

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in families that are dysfunctional.

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There is no predictability.

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It causes tremendous anxiety
and I can speak to that from

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our own personal experience.

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I grew up in a dysfunctional family.

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Where nothing was predictable.

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And so I can tell you from personal
experience that predictability

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makes life safe for children.

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And so in our classrooms and in our
homes, Life needs to be predictable.

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Children need to know how far
they can push the boundaries.

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And when they overstep that boundary,
what the consequence will be.

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Because that makes life easy to navigate.

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And when life is easy to navigate
and you feel safe, your belly is

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full, you know your parents love you.

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You know that your school
wants the best for you.

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That life is predictable and you
know, what's coming your way.

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It's much easier than to focus on
the next step in Maslow's hierarchy

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of needs, because you feel safe,
you feel secure, your belly's full.

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And so that's really important
to think about when we are

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raising and teaching children.

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Our classrooms can not be chaotic spaces.

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They need to be predictable.

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As teachers that means that
we need to be organized.

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It doesn't mean that you have to be
rigid because we all know that  so

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many new things happen every day.

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You can't always stick to the timetable.

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But children need to know,
basically what's coming their way.

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So providing the safe and secure
environment where children feel

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protected really reduces anxiety.

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And we all know as teachers that
children who suffer from anxiety do

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not learn as well as those who don't.

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So we need to make sure that all these
elements of having boundaries of ensuring

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that we are predictable and that life is
as predictable as possible really helps a

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long way towards helping children learn.

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Our next step up in this hierarchy
of needs is love and belonging.

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This highlights, the importance
of social interactions to fulfill

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children's needs for love and
friendship, and a sense of belonging.

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Spending quality time with our children
and encouraging friendships, so that

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children feel loved and cared for, this is
the third step in the hierarchy of needs.

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And when it comes to love and belonging,
we all know, especially when we dealing

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with these early childhood children,
that their friendships,  are above all

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the most important thing to these kids.

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And so when we're in his primary
school setting, when early years

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program, it's those friendships
and those relationships with our

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children that are the most important.

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Right?

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So building those relationships with
children, finding out about what it is

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that they like, what it is that they
enjoy doing, where are their talents?

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That's what we need to be focused on.

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As parents and as teachers is
building up our children's self-esteem

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really, which is the next step
in the hierarchy, by the way.

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But children need to feel that they're
loved and that means that we have

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to spend quality time with them.

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And that brings me to something
I've spoken to before.

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If our children are trying to have a
discussion with us and we're on our

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phones well, that's not really going
to give them any kind of sense of that

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they feel loved.

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Okay.

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That's going to make them feel
that they are second class citizens

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and that your phone is more
important than the conversation

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that you're having with your child.

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Or your student.

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And so when your child or your
student is talking to you, we need

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to give those children 100% of our
attention so that they feel that

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they matter so that they feel that
what they have to say is important.

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That we think it matters that they matter.

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So when it comes to love and belonging,
we're obviously going to help

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children navigate their relationships.

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We're going to help children
navigate all these social

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problems with their friendships.

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We're going to give them the structures
and perhaps helpful hints to help them

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to navigate friendships and to make sure
that they are actually good friends,

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that they not mean that they not bullies,
that they not saying ugly things to

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their friends, but that they are kind
and welcoming and accepting of everybody.

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Right.

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That's what we want.

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And that whole love and belonging is about
making your children and our students

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feel that they are loved and that they
belong in our classrooms, in our homes.

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And so giving them our full attention
and creating a safe spaces for them

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to ask questions, for example, so
that they know that their thoughts,

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their ideas, their interests, are
important and that they matter.

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And that's how we create the
sense of love and belonging in

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our students and in our children.

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Now the second last rung in our
hierarchy of needs is self-esteem.

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And this is focused on activities
that promote self-confidence

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and a positive self image.

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It's recognizing children's achievements
and their unique abilities and

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celebrating independence and grit.

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Kids with good self-esteem are more
likely to cope with mistakes and

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they feel proud of what they can do.

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And so often now we're seeing kids
with low self esteem and when a child

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has low self esteem, that is when
they are more likely to go and get

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hooked up with groups that perhaps we
don't want them to be hooked up with.

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This is when they are going to go
look for place or for people that

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are going to make them feel good.

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Right.

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So, what we need to do is we need to
give children that self confidence

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and that positive self image.

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And I think that comes to us as
parents and teachers, we need to

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stop doing things for our children.

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And when I say that, I mean, we need
to stop carrying their backpacks

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for example.

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Because what that is telling our
children is, you know what, sweetie,

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you are not strong enough or big
enough to carry your own backpack.

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We need to do that for our children.

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We need to get them understanding that
they have what it takes, that they're

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strong, that they're independent.

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Grit is one of the most important
traits that we can give our children.

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And if children have grit, they
are more likely to succeed.

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Because it's that perseverance that sees
us  having success later on in life.

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Often there are so many people who
are super smart, but they don't

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have that grit and perseverance

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so they just give up
before they get there.

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And this is such an important trait
we need to leave our children with.

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We need to encourage them to have grit.

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That whole thing about self-esteem.

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We need to give them challenges.

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You know, when you look at children
who are playing video games.

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They love games with challenges,
the thing where they can get to

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that next level, get the next
badge, um, open up the next prize.

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They love challenges.

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And then what do we do?

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We take away challenges.

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We don't ask them to ask questions.

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We try not to make life hard
for the poor little things.

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We try to wrap them up in cotton wool.

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We try to take away all obstacles.

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And then we hear about things like
lawn mower, parenting, and helicopter

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parenting, where we trying to just, you
know, make our children's lives easy.

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And what we're actually doing is
making their lives hard because we're

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taking away a chance for them to push
themselves, to give them challenges,

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so they can actually
meet those challenges.

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And when they do, they feel
so proud of themselves.

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And it's that pride in themselves
that builds their self esteem.

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And that's what we want.

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We want children to
have strong self-esteem.

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And to have that we need to give
them challenges and to have that it

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means that we need to back off and
let them have a bit of a struggle,

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'cause that struggle creates character.

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So let's not forget that.

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And then we get an, a last
rung of Maslow's hierarchy,

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which is self-realization.

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So their bellies are full.

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They feel safe.

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They feel secure.

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We've given them our full attention.

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We've given them love.

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They know where they belong in
their families and in their schools.

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They have high self-esteem.

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We've given them these small little
struggles that they have overcome,

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which has built their self esteem.

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And now they have grit and
they have perseverance.

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And now they can actually get
to self realization or as Maslow

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calls it  self actualization.

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And this is the last step
in the hierarchy of needs.

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And this is related to
personal growth and learning.

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And now is the time that we provide
children with opportunities when they

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can explore their interests and their
talents and develop skills, and encourage

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curiosity to meet their full potential.

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It focuses on those positive behaviors and
qualities that will help children achieve

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personal satisfaction and personal growth.

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So if I go back to my little story
that I told you at the beginning.

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You cannot be curious and ask questions
and think that you now want to

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develop your skills and your talents,
and maybe be, you know, become an

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artist or a great tennis player.

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If you don't have strong self esteem,
if you don't believe in yourself, you

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don't have any grit or perseverance.

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If you don't feel that you are loved
that you've got a full belly, how are you

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going to now be curious about the world
around you if those things aren't met.

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So in order for us to help our
children as educators, don't be

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always say, and as parents, we just
want the best for our children.

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We want to help them to
reach their full potential.

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Well to reach their full potential
they have to have all those steps

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in that hierarchy of needs met.

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And once they've had all those steps
met, we've provided them with safety,

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we've given them good, healthy food
so that they're not bouncing off walls

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because they're full of sugar and e
numbers and colourants and preservatives.

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We've provided a safe space
where they can feel safe.

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We've provided them with a
space where they feel loved and

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they feel a sense of belonging.

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We've provided them with enough
challenges in their lives so that

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they have a sense of grit and that
they have pride in their achievements.

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And now.

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Can you imagine?

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What it would be like, cause now you
can actually support their interests.

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Now is the time where they can be curious.

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Where they can explore the world around
them, where they can achieve self

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satisfaction , in what they've achieved.

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And embraced personal growth.

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We can't expect kids to start thinking
about that metacognition about how

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am I learning and how am I thinking?

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And what's the best way for me to learn.

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If we haven't even given
them grit and perseverance.

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You're the minute you put a
math problem in front of them.

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They fall apart.

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The minute they have a little challenge
when they have to work in a group to

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figure out a problem, they start crying
and they're falling apart because

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they haven't yet acquired high enough

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self-esteem.

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So for us as educators and
parents, what does that mean?

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It means that if a child is falling
apart at a math problem, and they've

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got all those other needs met.

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It means that they lack self-esteem
and perhaps that is where we need

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to have a conversation instead of
saying, well, you know what, they

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actually can't do math problems.

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Maybe the problem lies in the fact that
they lack self-esteem that they lack

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grit and perseverance to keep going.

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So I created an infographic using
Maslow's hierarchy of needs and related

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to how children learn and how we can
best meet the needs of children to

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help them meet their full potential
and how Maslow's theory can help us

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as educators and parents to rekindle
and nurture children's curiosity.

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Because we know that highly curious
people are also highly motivated to learn.

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And curiosity means that we ask questions.

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And a lack of curiosity means that
there is a lack of interest and

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a lack of motivation to learn.

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So, if you want to have a look at my
little infographic that I created.

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I will leave a link for
you in the show notes.

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I hope that you found today's
episode a little bit interesting.

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As I said, it's probably one
of my most popular blog posts,

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this one on Maslow's hierarchy of needs
and how it relates to children's learning.

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And if you want to download your own
little infographic  I'll leave a link

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for you to do so in the show notes.

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Now I just want to say thanks so much
for listening to blooming curious.

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Uh, I know that there's so many
other podcasts you can listen to, but

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you've chosen to listen to this one.

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And for that, I am eternally grateful.

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But if you like any of the
episodes, on blooming curious,

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and even this one, could I ask you
to do me a massive favor, please?

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Could you please leave a review.

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Could you also please like this
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The more you tell other
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The more other people will get to
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and in blooming, curious can grow and who
knows how many people we can motivate to

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get more kids and adults curious, which
is exactly what the world needs now.

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More curiosity, more questions.

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More people who can think independently,
critically, and who have curiosity.

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So like, and share with a
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Thank you so much.

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And remember.

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Curiosity is your superpower.

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And so same time, same place next week.

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I'll see you there.

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Thank you for listening.

