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So keeping our children curious
and wondering is I think one of

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the most important things that we
as parents and educators can do.

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I think we really have
to consider these things.

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It's not.

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just, you know, I've spoken about it in
previous episodes and on the blog, is that

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we cannot be passive consumers of content.

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And we also can't just go through our day
doing the same thing over and over again.

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I don't think the children are truly
engaged when they're just busy.

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I don't think the children are engaged.

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or truly engaged when they're
sitting at desks, just doing

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one worksheet after another.

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I think as educators and
parents, we can do better.

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And I think it's time for all of us
to actually stop and take a moment and

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think about those questions, you know,
in education we're often called upon

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to reflect, reflect on how the lesson
went, reflect on how your day went.

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And then to.

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You know, make a plan, put a strategy in
place, make some changes so that we can do

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better in the next lesson or the next day.

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And I think that's what we have to do
in our lives is we've got to stop for

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a moment and reflect a little bit more.

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And think about what it is that
we're doing and how we can do better.

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And I love that today, when we're looking
at something a little bit different and

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I've asked some guests to respond to that
question   what are the best strategies

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to keep kids curious and engaged?

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So I put out this question
to some Facebook admins.

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What is your favorite
strategy for engaging children

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and keeping them curious?

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So I'm going to play those clips for you.

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Have a listen to them and then
I'll weigh in afterwards as

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well in terms of what I think.

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So here we go with the first
one have a listen and then

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we'll have a chat about it.

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Children are innately curious, but
to spark their curiosity, there

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needs to be an element of wonder
in their days, a moment of awe.

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And this can look like an
expression on their face.

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It can be a moment of excitement.

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Maybe it's words that they're using.

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Maybe they're jumping.

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It could be about materials
that they're exploring.

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And a moment of awe can
bring about curiosity.

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And this drives children to take
action on that, to speak up.

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to understand what they're exploring.

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So you want to look for wonder moments
and reflect on why that may be happening.

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So is it a certain material
that they're exploring?

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Is it children that they're playing with?

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Is it a particular part of the setting?

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Was it a question that was asked?

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Like, just reflect on what,
what created that wonder moment.

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Now, to keep children curious and to keep
them engaging in their play, an important

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element is having a sense of connection.

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And this is being connected to
the environment, children, and

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educators that are in the setting.

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So connection brings about safety,
calmness, and curiosity can keep

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growing when those are consistent.

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So be open to the moments that come
when they're least unexpected and

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look for the wonder moments and take
on educator as researcher mindset.

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Be open to where the play
experiences take you.

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So you heard there from Veronica
Green, Veronica has a website and a

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business called Cultivating Confidence.

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And Veronica also has a Facebook
group called All Things Early Years

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and I want to just take a moment and
have a look at what she said there.

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So connection, bring safety, calmness,
and curiosity can keep growing

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when those things are consistent.

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And I think when we look back and I've
spoken before about Maslow's hierarchy,

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for example, Kids, aren't going to learn.

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If they don't feel safe,
if they're not happy.

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So I think what she said there about
that connection, that's co important,

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and also to be open to those moments
that come when they're least expected.

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And we've spoken about
that before as well.

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Those moments when a
child comes to you with.

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You know, they've discovered a
bar or a lady bird or a snail.

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And if you just dismiss that, that's not
going to help nurture their curiosity.

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We have to be open to those moments and
they're very unexpected, when kids come to

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us with something or they have a question
or they point something out in a book.

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And it's not about answering
their questions or say, oh, look.

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You know, that's a, that's a lady
bird and it's a, it's an insect.

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And you know why it's an insect
because it has six legs and a pair

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of wings or whatever it might be.

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For us, it's trying to find those
moments where we can nurture their

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curiosity and we nurture them through
our own researcher mindset exactly

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as Veronica has just said, it's about
thinking as a researcher, thinking as

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an Inquirer, and bringing that inquiry
mindset and that inquiry stance to our.

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Interactions with children to put
them, to get them to question.

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So we need to question as well.

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And it's not about bombarding them
throughout the day with millions of

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questions all the time, because that
will also become really boring for kids.

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It's just about finding those
really those slight nuanced moments.

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When you can say at that moment.

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Oh, my gosh.

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You know, Well, I wonder why I wonder why.

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Oh, I wonder what kind of
creature that might be.

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And maybe go and have a look
for things that are in common.

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How do lady birds and beetles and
dragonflies, how are they similar,

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what do they have in common?

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So I love that response.

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Okay.

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So here's our next,

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responder.

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with her best strategy for
keeping kids curious and engaged.

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Let's see what April.

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Zyko has to say.

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What a great question.

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I love the idea of how
do we get kids curious?

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Well, just to say, I'm April Zyko.

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I'm a nature based early childhood
educator, and I teach a lot of

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college courses and do virtual
professional development for teachers.

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And this idea of tapping into children's
curiosities is one that I love.

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And so my favorite tip would be Is
really getting kids outside, giving

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them these opportunities for hands
on nature based learning, giving

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them the tools and just letting
them to explore their own backyards.

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And so I know when I shift my thinking as,
uh, you know, what's my role as a teacher.

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And I really focus on being a facilitator
and being a keen observer of children.

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And then.

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Allowing their curiosities to really
lead the learning and so allowing their

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interest to really drive our curriculum.

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It's such a great way to, um, just
really foster their, their curiosities.

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And so I think part of it is how
we add materials to our learning

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environment and how we really.

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Um, shift our role rather than
being this direct instruction,

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being more that facilitator.

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And so my top tip is head
outside and get curious yourself.

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So I really couldn't have
said that any better myself.

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Thank you April.

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Getting kids outside is her favorite tip
and I think it's probably mine and every

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other educator on the planet that has seen
firsthand just how being outside and being

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outdoors can I open up children's awe
and wonder, and really get them curious.

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And that's why if you listen to
my, one of my previous episodes,

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when I was talking to Victoria
Hackett, from outdoor classrooms.com.

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You know, we spoke in depth about.

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How children build their curiosity
and their learning outside.

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And just how much they
learn when they're outdoors.

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And she also gave so many great tips to
educators and parents of how they can

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prepare the outdoor environment to create
that awe and wonder because if it's

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all beautifully manicured, but there's
nothing there, might be extraordinarily

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beautiful, but there's nothing there
for them to really get stuck into.

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There may not be any
loose parts, for example.

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These are things.

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Children need to be able to do
things they need to get active.

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They need to climb and explore and.

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You know, use their five senses literally.

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So I think getting outdoors
is exactly the right place to.

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To nurture children's awe
and wonder and curiosity.

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And also I really loved how April
spoke about we, as, as educators

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shifting our stance and that it's
not that we're always just teaching.

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It's not that whole talk and chalk thing
when we're just standing at the front

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of the classroom just yapping away.

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Um, we can't really just
be yapping away anymore.

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You know, we're up against technology.

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And children find technology,
unfortunately, but they find

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technology highly, highly engaging.

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because it really gets
their dopamine going so.

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We need to be the dopamine,
but it's not just us.

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We need to find ways that
we can get  kids curious.

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And by us nurturing their curiosity
by finding ways that we can teach

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our content outside, I think is a
wonderful step in the right direction.

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And as April said, we've got
to be facilitators and a really

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keen observer of children.

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So again, that whole idea.

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Of not being passive, not just
standing there watching children,

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but really getting in there
and really closely observing.

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What is it that they're
talking about to one another?

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What is it that they're
picking up off the ground?

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What is it that they're saying?

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Is there a way that we can come
in and maybe ask a question?

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Just to take them and guide them
along a path of inquiry, for example.

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So we've got to lean into their
curiosities and their interests and

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use that to drive our curriculum.

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And I think we sometimes get so worried
about the curriculum, but you know,

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if we know our curriculum really
well, then when we take children's

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curiosities, we can get that to fit in

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so, so easily.

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And interestingly enough, I was so
fortunate and so thrilled beyond measure.

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I cannot tell you I was actually
so excited, but so incredibly

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nervous I actually interviewed
Claire Warden last Friday.

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And that's an upcoming episode, so don't
forget to subscribe so that you can be

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notified when that episode goes live.

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But Claire was saying
those exact same things.

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So whenever I speak to anybody, whoever
I speak to in previous people, I've re.

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Uh, interviewed.

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It's always the same stuff that
comes up over and over again.

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So I'm kind of wondering if, if all of us.

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People that are interested, really
deeply interested and passionate

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about children and how they learn
and nurturing their curiosity and

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their awe and wonder in the world,

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because.

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, if you think about it, so many of
us right have become so so sort of

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disinterested and disconnected with
our world is just like, we're just

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going through the motions of every day.

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Not really stopping and saying, hang
on a minute, how do I feel about this?

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What's going on with me?

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Can I be better?

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Can I do, but it was my
response appropriate.

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Yeah, I think we really have to start

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being facilitators, not just
about children's learning, but

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of our own learning as well.

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And just stopping in the moment and get
off the phones, get off the computers, get

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off the technology because that's, what's
sucking up our brain power and our time.

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And start asking yourselves and doing a
little bit of introspection and thinking.

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How can I facilitate children's learning
rather than just yapping away at them.

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So I love also allowing children's
curiosities and their interests

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to drive  to drive their learning.

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I think that's super important.

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And I love also, I know
I'm doing a lot of loving.

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Um, That we need to shift our role from
a direct instruction type of role to

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that of a facilitating type of role.

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And as April said, her top tip was really
to get outside and be curious ourselves.

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And I think I've said that over
and over and over so many times.

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We cannot expect kids to be curious
if we're not curious ourselves, we

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cannot expect kids to be good readers,

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if we aren't modeling, reading ourselves,
we cannot expect kids to speak correctly

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if we don't speak correctly, ourselves.

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We are, really, the biggest
influencers in our children's lives.

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Maybe we don't realize that, but
you know, Have you ever noticed, for

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example, You'll be sitting there and
then you hear a kid say something.

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And it's just, you
they've just said exactly

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what you say, because we are so
important, we play this really

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important part in children's lives.

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Where everything we do and say, and
in fact, even the things we don't do

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and say, are influencing children's
lives in massive, massive ways.

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So also, I just want to say now
that a great place for you to go to

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for tips and resources and articles
to get you thinking and wondering

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about your practice as an educator.

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Is EDS lessons.com.

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So if you want to nurture, not just
your learners, curiosity, but your

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own too, then head over to Ed's
lessons.com and stay in the know.

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And while you're there.

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Check out the eGuide that I created,
especially for those of you that

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may be new to, or just a little
unsure or nervous of how to get

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started with inquiry based learning.

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Because I've created an easy guide
there to help you get started, and

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it's aptly called inquiry 1 0 1.

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It takes you through the process
of inquiry  with step-by-step

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instructions to integrate the
inquiry cycle into everyday lessons.

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And so of course you will be
nurturing your own curiosity yourself.

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So many educators, and even parents,
if you're a homeschool parents, think

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that inquiry is a separate subject.

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Well, it's not, it's a stance.

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It's your mindset.

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And just, if you can get into that
whole mindset of looking for those

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moments, as we  heard earlier.

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Veronica talk about looking for
those moments in a child's day,

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you're looking for  moments where
they are being curious moments where

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they're interested in something.

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And capitalizing on those
moments to drive inquiry.

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And even as April said, Using those
interests that children have to drive

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the curriculum to drive your inquiry.

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You know, one of the things that
I see so often on social media.

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are homeschool l parents specifically,
actually that have decided to homeschool

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their children and they have a
five-year-old or even a four year old

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and those going where's the curriculum.

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What curriculum can I
use to teach this child?

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And I have gone on and I've
responded to this and saying,

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well, the child is the curriculum.

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And people get really annoyed and
uppity with me because they then

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think, well,  I want a curriculum
I want something on paper.

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I want someone to guide me.

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But your child is the
curriculum their interests are

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what will drive your curriculum.

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Yeah.

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One of the reasons for people, I
think choosing to homeschool their

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children is because they don't want.

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Uh, they don't want the rigidity
of perhaps what happens in this.

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In a school setting because schools
are driven by timetables and time

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constraints, and that's just the way
it is because when you are in a class

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with 25 or 29 or 30 kids, you have
to have those structures in place

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otherwise you have chaos.

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But in a homeschool setting when you've
just got a couple of kids, 1, 2, 3, 4,

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whatever it might be, when you've just got
those few kids, you can so easily drive

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your curriculum with their interests.

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But you first  have to get that
inquiry mindset going in yourself and

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think, well, How can I use moments
of awe and wonder to drive this

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child's learning and those moments
of awe and wonder are found outdoors.

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So everything that April and
Veronica said today, Go out doors.

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See where that takes you.

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And again, if you go to Ed's lessons
to the website, you will find an eGuide

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there called How to nurture children's
curiosity naturally, which would

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really help you to see where those
natural moments are, where you could

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take them and nurture that curiosity.

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And if you're open to that idea,

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that's going to help you to apply inquiry,
learning  to what children are learning.

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And once more, I think I have to also
make it quite clear here we're talking

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about nurturing children's curiosity
not killing it with worksheets.

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Yes, there are place for worksheets.

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Yes, we should have a worksheet every
now and again, because it might be

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something that we want to consolidate

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or we want to see what
children  have learned.

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And of course we want them to
write and we want them to read, we

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want them to show what they know,
there is a place for worksheets.

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But to give a worksheet for every
single lesson of every single

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day that's not real learning,
that's not getting kids thinking.

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That's not what curiosity is about.

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There are better ways to do that.

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And if you hang around Blooming
Curious for long enough, and you go to

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edslessons.com for long enough, and to
have a look at some of the resources

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there  you'll start seeing other ways
where you can gather children's  knowledge

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and other ways that they can show their
learning and make their learning visible.

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So I really hope that you'll do that.

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Thanks again to April and Veronica
for taking the time to record

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their favorite strategies for
keeping kids curious and engaged.

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We really, really appreciate that.

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And I really thank you
for being here today.

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I know that you can choose a million
other podcasts out there to listen to.

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And they're all amazing and wonderful,
but I thank you for taking the time

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today to listen to Blooming Curious,
because clearly you want to nurture your

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own curiosity as well as your children.

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And that is amazing because the more
of us than can be curious and awake and

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thinking about how we can better serve
children the better for, I think humanity.

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So thanks for being here and
guys can I just say that this

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And also don't forget to follow because
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So hope to see you here or for you
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Tuesday is when every new episode
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until then stay blooming curious.

