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You're listening to the Christ Our Cornerstone

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podcast, a ministry of Christ Our Cornerstone

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Church in O 'Neill, Nebraska. I'm Pastor Logan

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Merrick, and it's our prayer that this message

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strengthens your faith and draws you closer to

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Christ. Let's dive in. You've been targeted for

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termination come with me if you want to live

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How could that man just get up after you did

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not a man machine Terminator cyber nine systems

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model one zero one Hello and welcome to the Christ

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our cornerstone church podcast, my name is pastor

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logan. I am super glad to have you here And today

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if you're going What in the world was that beforehand?

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Well, because of the topic, I had to get into

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my movie cultural reference phase because if

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you know me at all, I love movies and all I could

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hear were quotes from the Terminator because

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of the topic that I'm tackling today, which is

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how should Christians think about AI? Now, I

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got this question and it's a good one. And when

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the person that was talking to me about it, they

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asked me if I use AI to write my sermons. Now

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you could be like, what is AI? AI stands for

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artificial intelligence. You got things like

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chat GPT, which I just recently introduced. I

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don't know who I introduced to chat GPT. It was

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one of the elders in our church. Just to hear

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him reply when I said chat GPT. He said, what's

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chat BBT? And it was just really hilarious. Um,

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but, uh, chat GPT there's also a thing called

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Dolly. There's, uh, you know, Facebook and Google

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now use AI and then you've got things like, um,

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Alexa. And I mean, you know, Alex has been around

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for quite a bit. Siri's been around for quite

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a bit. That's artificial intelligence. It's not

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just robots. It's not just the Terminator with

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the with Arnold Schwarzenegger coming from the

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future to kill You know the the would -be Person

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that would free human humanity and all that good

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stuff And so AI how should we think about it?

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Like what are the problems with it? and Somebody

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told me that I have referenced AI few times in

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my sermons and and that just tells you how like

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off the cuff I am a lot of the times Because

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I don't even remember saying anything about pause

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for just a second. I'm getting a call from my

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wife. I Will be right back You're good. You're

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getting to see how the bacon is made at the moment.

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Okay, so How should Christians think about AI?

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Yeah, I don't remember bringing up AI so If I

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was bringing it up, it was definitely off the

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cuff and just kind of random, because I don't

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remember ever even talking about it, honestly.

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But with that being said, it's still a great

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question of how should we think about AI? Because

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it's a big topic. It's a complex topic that I

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think that we are still, when I say we, it's

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people like myself and others, other pastors,

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theologians, apologists. as we're all trying

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to like on on the fly figure out how do we how

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do we think about biblically about this topic

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in a practical way in a pastoral way how is it

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rooted in scripture just all of those things

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and so here are my takes right now and then as

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ai begins to only grow because it's going to

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continue to grow and get bigger um I'm sure I

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will have more thoughts, but right now we're

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in the early stages. I mean, AI is only a couple

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of years old in regards to the way that we see

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it in everyday life now. And so I'm sure I will

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think more deeply on the topic, but just right

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off the bat, like I'm gonna answer, do I use

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AI for my sermons? I'm gonna talk about... things

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like, is AI the mark of the beast? And I'm gonna

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unpack that at the end. Insert eye roll there,

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okay? And so, I'm gonna talk about the dangers

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of AI, but also the good things about AI. So,

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let's go ahead and get started. So, the first

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thing I would say is, what are the dangers? Okay,

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what are the things that are easy to overlook,

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okay? First and foremost, I would say AI can

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dehumanize us. What do I mean by that? Well,

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one, we're made in the image of God. And also,

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two, things like pornography and human trafficking

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dehumanizes us. We see others as commodities

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with which to be consumed. And so AI kind of

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does the same thing. It dehumanizes us as people.

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And so like, here's what I mean. If you have

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not seen it, there are stories, real stories

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of people, specifically men, but this happens

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to women too, making AI into a friend, but that

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friend becoming a romantic partner, which I know

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that sounds crazy, but it's real. We've had kids,

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unfortunately, tragically take their own lives

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after interacting with AI that was programmed

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to manipulate them. I mean, we've seen people

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try to marry robots. People have tried to marry

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AI. They create these AI partners, if you will,

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and grow to be in love with them. Now that can

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be like an extreme case, but I've actually seen

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in my own personal life people who can substitute

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real relationships with AI. And you'd be like,

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well, that's ridiculous. Just follow me. If you've

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not used AI, if you are an older person and you've

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not used Chad GPT or you've not used an AI product

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of any kind, this is going to seem foreign to

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you. If you've used Siri, then you're kind of

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familiar with it a little bit. Or if you've used

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Alexa, because you can talk to it. And it's the

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same thing with text. You can talk with it and

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it's going to give you information. And so I

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know it may sound strange, but there are people

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who they long for connection and they want to

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be in a relationship, but they may fear rejection

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or they may not know how to have a conversation

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or be in a relationship. And so AI becomes a

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crutch. And in many ways it can, it devalues

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the image of God in ourselves and in others.

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And so we start to worship this machine that

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ultimately can't love, it can't empathize, sorry,

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I about said emphasize, empathize with us. It

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only mirrors back what we feed into it. And so

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it's a lousy God. But I'm compassionate towards

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these things because Like I said, I just know

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people that have struggled with with this AI

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thing and So but being able to say and and put

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into words that it it dehumanizes it devalues

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It's not real it's fake it's just like I said

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it's just like pornography in the sense of That

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is a fake thing that you're viewing and and and

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it's not real It's not real life. It's not how

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real relationships work. Sex doesn't operate

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like a porn. So these things, we become infatuated

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by fakeness and those things do not satisfy and

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they're not meant to because we were made for

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relationship. We were made in the image of God.

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God himself in the Trinity is in relationship.

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And so you were made for it. And so your heart

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longs for this thing. And then ultimately, because

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you're not sure how to be in a relationship,

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you go to a thing that you think you're controlling

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and usually it's controlling you. Let me move

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on. Second, AI can become a tool that uses us

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rather than the one we use. So transitioning

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to what I was just saying, it's tempting to rely

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on AI for everything. Not just for relationships,

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but for writing for creating even thinking on

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our own If we're not careful it can Make us like

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essentially passive imitators instead of active

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creators. What do I mean by that? If you're not

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again if you're not familiar I Like to use AI

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many times when I'm blogging what I mean by that

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for two reasons One, because my grammar is awful.

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So if my wife is not around to look at my stuff

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and put it into ways that people would understand,

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my writing can be really bad. So if she's not

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around, I will pop what I have written into AI

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and say, hey, check this for writing errors,

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grammar errors, misspellings, all that kind of

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stuff. The other thing is if I'm blogging, I

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like to use images. Now I can do graphic design.

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I've used Photoshop for many, many years, going

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on 17 years. So I'm very fluent in Photoshop.

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But when I just want a quick custom image that

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I don't wanna have to design, I will tell AI

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to create an image. These are all the things

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I want. This is what I want in the foreground,

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this is what I want. different color schemes,

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minimalist, you know, I can tell it all the things

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and all the things I want in it. And then it'll

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design it. Now, many times it's not great, okay?

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It's not the thing that I would have made. But

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for the sake of being able to have an image that

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I can put into my blog in like literally 10 seconds,

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I'll take it. And so, but it's a bad imitation.

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It's really bad at creating, in my opinion, but

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it feeds on what we have as a God -like complex.

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This illusion that we must hold all knowledge

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and all creativity and all things like it's at

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our fingertips. And we want to do everything

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perfectly and we push beyond the limitations

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with which God gave us. And that's dangerous.

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AI is addictive by design, just like social media,

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it's addictive by design. And so it wants us

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to keep coming back. And let me just say this,

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if you use AI in a way to bring knowledge to

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you, that is also very dangerous. Excuse all

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the notifications that are happening in the background.

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My wife is texting me, I'm getting emails, I

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apologize. But all of these things, We weren't

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meant to hold, we weren't meant to have all of

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the knowledge, okay, that we could possibly have

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throughout all of mankind. Your brain cannot

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handle those things. You were physically not

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made to hold those things. But again, we want,

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like having knowledge isn't bad. But whenever

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we go deeply into conspiracy theories, and we

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go deeply into all of these things, and we want,

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we want, it's knowledge, knowledge, knowledge,

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knowledge, knowledge. It can create anxiety,

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it can create panic attacks, it can create a

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lot of things. And so you weren't meant to hold

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those things and having AI and also AI can be

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wrong so many times. It's just using the internet.

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And so, which is why I do not use it for writing

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sermons. One, because I believe in writing my

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own sermons. You're not actually writing a sermon

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if AI is the one writing it for you. All right?

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And so, I just think that when it comes to writing

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sermons, I need to labor on it, and everyone

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should, okay? Any pastor who's using AI to write

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their sermons is not a pastor. They're not laboring

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over the text, they're not thinking about their

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own experiences, they're not thinking about what

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the text is saying for that Sunday for their

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church, okay? Have I used AI for my sermons?

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Yeah, and I'm gonna tell you how I've used it.

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Actually, just last week, I had alliteration

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going for all of my points. My points were people,

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place, purpose, and I wanted a fourth P and could

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not figure out what word would work. So ultimately

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I went to Chad GBT and I said I need a word that

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starts with a P. Here's the point that I'm making

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Here is the context of everything that I am saying

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Give me a P word so I can have a fourth word

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and the word it gave me was perception and I

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was like perfect That it did not write the sermon

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for me. It just gave me the word that I was looking

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for and so If you use it as a tool like that

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There's nothing wrong with that. Again, AI didn't

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make my points for me. It's not telling me all

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the things. But if AI, if you're worried that

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a pastor is using AI, I'm going to tell you they've

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been ripping off sermons. If they're a new pastor,

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okay, they're using AI. It's not going to make,

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it's not going to build their doctrinal muscles.

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It's not going to build their sermon muscles,

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their sermon writing muscles. It's not going

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to do any of that. And so it's just lazy. But

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guess what? Those same people were ripping off

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sermons by famous pastors and things long before

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AI came along. Those pastors have always existed.

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OK, they have. And I have seen those guys. I

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have literally watched a guy preach a sermon

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that I heard Mark Driscoll preach years beforehand.

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And word for word, he ripped off the sermon to

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the point of he even used Mark Driscoll's personal

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stories that he used in the end. He used to mess

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his own. And yes, I did call the guy out, not,

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of course, during the during the sermon. But

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afterwards, I did. So, yeah, I do not agree with

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those types of things. Now, I'm getting off track,

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but I just wanted to because the question was

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asked, I wanted to put that out there. But our

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view. Our Christian view of humanity is so important

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when it comes to AI, because we're not machines.

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We're made in God's image. People matter. And

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how we engage with AI affects everything. How

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we're made in God's image, all of the things.

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And so our love for others should shape. So let

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me say like this, actually. Our love for others

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and specifically the gospel of Jesus Christ and

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the scriptures Should shape how we use technology

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And even how we influence its development, which

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brings me to my next point. Okay What do I mean

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by how we influence its development? Well ai

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is not ethically neutral ai reflects the ethics

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and the biases of its designers it's being used

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in everything from Job hiring it's hard to get

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a job by the way anymore because you have to

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you've got to apply online and and and I understand

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it it's allowing for HR People to be able to

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have gatekeepers that are just robots That they

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don't have to review physically review resumes

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that are already just they don't meet the minimum

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requirement So I get it, but it's really hard

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because sometimes if you do not have the right

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Keywords in your resume it will automatically

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get rejected because people are using AI for

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hiring. Law enforcement's using AI to predict

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criminal behavior. If those who program AI, if

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they operate with flawed and relativistic ethics,

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what do I mean by that? relativistic ethics being

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that all things are relative. It doesn't really

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matter. There is no morals. It's just what I

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feel. It's the whole thing of there is no truth,

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only your truth. If there is no standard of good,

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then it's relativist and that's dangerous. And

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so if the people who create AI are operating

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under those flawed relativistic ethics and belief

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systems, it will be baked into the machines.

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It will be baked into AI and the stuff that it

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puts out. And so as John Lennox, who's a famous

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apologist, I love him. He's also a world renowned

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mathematics brain. He is at Oxford. He is amazing.

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He's my favorite apologist. But John Lennox,

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he points this out. Biased ethics produced biased

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AI. That's what he said. Biased ethics produced

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produces biased AI. So, Christians, we need a

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seat at the table. We need to ask questions.

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We need to guide development of AI. Otherwise,

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we risk creating tools that amplify and dehumanize

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instead of reflecting God's image. And so, as

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I've kind of pointed out, not all AI, like, AI

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isn't all bad. It can help us. It's just like

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any other tool. We're not gonna be afraid of

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all technology. At some point, the tractor was

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technology, okay? And so we can adapt to technology

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and with technology, but we have to be smart

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and discerning on how we use it and what it's

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doing and how it's shaping us. And so I use ChatGPT,

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like I said, for helping me write emails, to

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thinking of words for different things, to grammar.

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And so it's a tool. I've used, those things have

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been in like basic Word document stuff for quite

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a long time. Why do I drop it into ChatGPT? Because

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Will then go through my entire thing in one fell

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swoop as opposed to me clicking one at a time

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at a time at a time and so I Don't think AI is

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all bad. I think it can be very dangerous I think

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that it needs it's What's the word that I want

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to look for here? I think it needs you know some

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sort of safeguards, if you will. I think that

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it's a tool that should be used, again, with

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discernment, but it should not ever be a crutch.

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And so I think it should supplement, not substitute.

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Again, when it comes to sermon writings, it should

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supplement, it should not substitute. If you

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don't have any solid biblical knowledge, you

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should not ever rely on AI to give you or help

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you with your faith. OK, it pulls from the Internet,

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like I said, so it's going to pull errors. You

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should do the work. You should study the word.

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Use AI as a helper, but not the master. So should

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we be afraid of AI? No. Should we be cautious?

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Absolutely, we should be cautious. Is it the

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mark of the beast? As some kind of some claim

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now I said earlier III roll at that because it

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is not really briefly Why can I say that? Because

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you have to understand what the mark of the beast

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is the mark of the beast in the end times They

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willingly take it. They aren't tricked It is

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a willing mark put upon you that you are against

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God It is not something you are tricked into

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period Just read Revelation man like that that's

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That's what it's about and so everything that

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comes out of this is the mark of the beast and

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if you're not careful You're gonna get the mark

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of the beast. No, it's not gonna trick you It's

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not meant to be it's meant to be a legitimate

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Middle finger if you will to God Not I accidentally

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asked Chad deep GPT for a recipe on how to make

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bread And now all of a sudden, oh my gosh, I've

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got the mark of the beast. Like, that's just

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lunacy. And anyone who says things like that

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doesn't know the Bible. As a matter of fact,

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they're probably using Chad GPT in regards to

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the mark of the beast and all that other craziness

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and writing these ridiculous things. So no, it's

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not the mark of the beast or anything like that.

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Like any tool, as I've said, AI shapes us. And

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so whether we realize it or not, it does. And

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so the way that we handle it reveals a lot about

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our hearts, our values and our faith. All right.

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I hope that's helpful. That went longer than

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I planned on it to, but I hope it was helpful.

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Thanks for listening. I hope this gives you a

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framework, though, on how to think about AI as

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a Christian. And I hope that you use it wisely.

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I hope that you love others, that you use it

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to honor God, to love others and and remember

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like Technology is powerful, and I think we should

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use it for the sake of the gospel to go forward,

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but it's never a replacement for the Creator.

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That being said, hope you have a great rest of

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your week. I can't wait to see you on Sunday.

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If you live in and around the O 'Neill area,

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would love to have you on Sunday mornings. Services

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start at 10 .45. If you've got questions, feel

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free to leave them here. Next week, I'm actually

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gonna be... answering a bunch of different questions,

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ones that I felt like I could answer pretty easily

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and they wouldn't make for one big episode. And

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so it's going to be kind of a mailbag, if you

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will. But if you do have questions, feel free

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to comment them underneath on this YouTube channel

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or leave us a review if you would. If you're

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My email is in the show notes. But share this

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