1 00:00:13,551 --> 00:00:15,631 Speaker: Welcome to tongue first, the 2 00:00:15,631 --> 00:00:18,032 Speaker: queer curiosity podcast with a 3 00:00:18,032 --> 00:00:18,632 Speaker: bite. 4 00:00:18,632 --> 00:00:22,632 Speaker: In this debut episode, Siren and Wendy bear it all. 5 00:00:22,632 --> 00:00:26,992 Speaker: Who they are, how they met, and what happens when two Geminis 6 00:00:26,992 --> 00:00:31,832 Speaker: with matching tattoos and filthy minds start a show together. 7 00:00:31,832 --> 00:00:37,432 Speaker: They talk trans awakenings, lesbian stereotypes, love, loss 8 00:00:37,432 --> 00:00:41,951 Speaker: and lube, all with laughter, honesty and just the right 9 00:00:41,951 --> 00:00:43,072 Speaker: amount of chaos. 10 00:00:43,072 --> 00:00:47,671 Speaker: So grab your coffee, your cooter, or both, and get ready 11 00:00:47,671 --> 00:00:49,031 Speaker: to get moist. 12 00:00:49,031 --> 00:00:50,512 Speaker: Because on tongue, first, 13 00:00:50,512 --> 00:00:53,311 Speaker: curiosity is sexy and consent is 14 00:00:53,311 --> 00:00:54,072 Speaker: hotter. 15 00:00:56,008 --> 00:00:57,927 Siren: I feel like there'd be intro music. 16 00:00:58,128 --> 00:01:00,247 Wendy: Can we have, like, Meg the Stallion? 17 00:01:00,607 --> 00:01:01,487 Siren: Yeah, for sure. 18 00:01:01,807 --> 00:01:02,968 Wendy: Or some shit like that. 19 00:01:02,807 --> 00:01:03,648 Siren: Yeah, yeah, yeah. 20 00:01:03,487 --> 00:01:05,677 Wendy: some ratchet ass hoe How can we get that. 21 00:01:05,837 --> 00:01:07,477 Siren: some ratchet ass hoe shit? 22 00:01:07,477 --> 00:01:10,397 Siren: So input ratchet ass shit right 23 00:01:23,097 --> 00:01:24,257 Wendy: And put it right there. 24 00:01:24,578 --> 00:01:25,938 Siren: welcome in everybody. 25 00:01:25,938 --> 00:01:26,658 Siren: Hey, babies. 26 00:01:26,658 --> 00:01:27,337 Siren: Hey, Fram. 27 00:01:27,337 --> 00:01:27,737 Siren: What's up? 28 00:01:27,737 --> 00:01:28,537 Siren: Baz? 29 00:01:28,537 --> 00:01:29,578 Siren: Um, this is. 30 00:01:29,378 --> 00:01:29,897 Wendy: The. 31 00:01:30,257 --> 00:01:34,658 Siren: The Fram. Baz. This is the first episode of Wendy and I's new 32 00:01:34,658 --> 00:01:40,498 Siren: podcast called tongue first tongue, first tongue first. 33 00:01:40,498 --> 00:01:43,817 Siren: Because if you're gonna do anything, you might as well put 34 00:01:43,817 --> 00:01:45,617 Siren: your whole mouth on it. 35 00:01:45,457 --> 00:01:46,457 Wendy: Mouth on. 36 00:01:46,457 --> 00:01:48,018 Wendy: Oh, I'm just kidding. 37 00:01:47,817 --> 00:01:50,998 Siren: Oh, my gosh. So, Wendy, I love the byline you came up with. 38 00:01:50,998 --> 00:01:53,837 Siren: A queer curiosity podcast with bite. 39 00:01:53,837 --> 00:01:56,778 Wendy: Yes, a queer curiosity. 40 00:01:56,858 --> 00:01:57,418 Siren: Awesome. 41 00:01:57,257 --> 00:01:57,778 Wendy: Because we are. 42 00:01:57,778 --> 00:01:59,218 Wendy: We are queer. 43 00:01:59,218 --> 00:02:00,298 Wendy: Read the sticker. 44 00:02:00,337 --> 00:02:01,498 Siren: I love the sticker. 45 00:02:01,498 --> 00:02:02,578 Siren: It's so pretty. 46 00:02:02,578 --> 00:02:06,117 Siren: All of these people in podcast land that can't see the sticker 47 00:02:06,117 --> 00:02:07,658 Siren: are really missing out. 48 00:02:07,737 --> 00:02:09,057 Wendy: Yeah, we'll have to. 49 00:02:09,057 --> 00:02:10,177 Wendy: describe it to you. 50 00:02:10,177 --> 00:02:13,377 Wendy: It's too sexy ass motherfuckers. 51 00:02:13,377 --> 00:02:15,717 Wendy: Just existing, That's all you need to know. 52 00:02:15,557 --> 00:02:16,437 Siren: Do you know what, Wendy? 53 00:02:16,437 --> 00:02:17,717 Siren: Maybe we should start there. 54 00:02:17,717 --> 00:02:19,677 Siren: Maybe we should introduce ourselves 55 00:02:19,638 --> 00:02:22,318 Wendy: Yes, yes, yes, yes. 56 00:02:22,318 --> 00:02:23,198 Wendy: The sticker is going to make 57 00:02:23,198 --> 00:02:24,638 Wendy: your cooter tingle is just what 58 00:02:24,638 --> 00:02:25,078 Wendy: I'm saying. 59 00:02:25,078 --> 00:02:29,038 Wendy: Okay, so if you know, if you know, you know. 60 00:02:29,038 --> 00:02:29,557 Wendy: Okay. 61 00:02:29,557 --> 00:02:30,877 Wendy: Ladies first siren. 62 00:02:30,877 --> 00:02:31,758 Wendy: You're up, baby, 63 00:02:31,877 --> 00:02:32,957 Siren: Okay. All right. 64 00:02:32,957 --> 00:02:35,057 Siren: So, Hello, my friends in podcast lands. 65 00:02:35,057 --> 00:02:37,858 Siren: I usually say chat, and I'm probably gonna say chat a lot 66 00:02:37,858 --> 00:02:40,538 Siren: because, Wendy and I are both live streamers and content 67 00:02:40,538 --> 00:02:41,737 Siren: creators on TikTok. 68 00:02:41,737 --> 00:02:43,217 Siren: That's how I kind of got my start here. 69 00:02:43,217 --> 00:02:45,818 Siren: That's why we're doing the whole podcast in the first place. 70 00:02:45,818 --> 00:02:50,117 Siren: I am a thirty seven year old queer trans woman. 71 00:02:50,117 --> 00:02:51,557 Siren: My pronouns are she her. 72 00:02:51,557 --> 00:02:54,717 Siren: I am the mom of two amazing children. 73 00:02:54,717 --> 00:02:57,478 Siren: I identify as a lesbian. 74 00:02:57,478 --> 00:03:01,078 Siren: I play roller derby, I was a youth pastor for eleven years. 75 00:03:01,078 --> 00:03:05,478 Siren: And I was thirty three years old when I started to come to terms 76 00:03:05,478 --> 00:03:06,717 Siren: with who I was. 77 00:03:06,717 --> 00:03:09,277 Siren: But what about you, baby? 78 00:03:09,277 --> 00:03:10,038 Siren: Introduce yourself. 79 00:03:10,038 --> 00:03:10,758 Siren: Wendy. 80 00:03:10,798 --> 00:03:11,397 Wendy: All right. 81 00:03:11,397 --> 00:03:13,038 Wendy: Who the fuck are we? 82 00:03:12,877 --> 00:03:14,277 Wendy: Who the fuck am I? 83 00:03:14,277 --> 00:03:14,957 Wendy: My name is. 84 00:03:14,798 --> 00:03:17,997 Wendy: Wendy, aka, uh. 85 00:03:19,358 --> 00:03:20,237 Wendy: Whatever. 86 00:03:20,237 --> 00:03:21,277 Wendy: I didn't have an aka. 87 00:03:21,277 --> 00:03:23,318 Wendy: I don't know why I said that. 88 00:03:23,318 --> 00:03:27,377 Wendy: I digress, I am a seasoned forty 89 00:03:27,377 --> 00:03:30,937 Wendy: four year old cis woman lesbian 90 00:03:30,937 --> 00:03:32,038 Wendy: lesbian? 91 00:03:32,038 --> 00:03:34,117 Wendy: I hate when fucking lesbians say that. 92 00:03:33,957 --> 00:03:35,437 Siren: Why did you say it? 93 00:03:35,758 --> 00:03:38,437 Wendy: I don't know, so dumb. 94 00:03:38,437 --> 00:03:41,247 Wendy: I am a big advocate of mental 95 00:03:41,247 --> 00:03:43,807 Wendy: health and sexual assault 96 00:03:43,807 --> 00:03:47,367 Wendy: awareness, as well as a 97 00:03:47,367 --> 00:03:49,127 Wendy: motherfucking Gemini. 98 00:03:49,127 --> 00:03:52,288 Wendy: And oh, look, that's that's the kicker. 99 00:03:52,288 --> 00:03:55,008 Wendy: Siren and I both have the same birthday. 100 00:03:54,967 --> 00:03:56,728 Siren: We do, we do. 101 00:03:56,608 --> 00:03:58,527 Wendy: June eighteenth. June eighteenth. 102 00:03:58,527 --> 00:03:59,647 Wendy: We're Geminis. 103 00:03:59,608 --> 00:04:02,848 Siren: I wish it didn't freak me out as much as it does. 104 00:04:02,848 --> 00:04:05,407 Siren: It just it's it freaks me out. 105 00:04:05,407 --> 00:04:05,807 Siren: Wendy. 106 00:04:05,807 --> 00:04:06,127 Siren: It does. 107 00:04:06,127 --> 00:04:06,927 Siren: It freaks me out. 108 00:04:06,927 --> 00:04:08,367 Siren: It's wild. 109 00:04:08,207 --> 00:04:09,788 Wendy: it's nothing to me because I have a twin. 110 00:04:09,788 --> 00:04:12,788 Wendy: So now I get to just share my birthday with more you fuckers. 111 00:04:14,187 --> 00:04:17,867 Wendy: Why can't I just have my own fucking day? 112 00:04:17,867 --> 00:04:18,908 Wendy: Okay. 113 00:04:18,908 --> 00:04:22,788 Wendy: I say fuck a lot if you don't like it, I don't fucking care. 114 00:04:22,788 --> 00:04:23,067 Wendy: Yeah. 115 00:04:23,067 --> 00:04:24,468 Wendy: You know what a bad word is? 116 00:04:24,507 --> 00:04:26,788 Siren: Where does it hurt people if you ask me? 117 00:04:26,788 --> 00:04:27,588 Siren: You tell me. 118 00:04:27,588 --> 00:04:30,148 Wendy: What a bad word is for most people. 119 00:04:30,148 --> 00:04:31,187 Wendy: Moist. 120 00:04:32,348 --> 00:04:34,108 Siren: Yeah. Yeah. 121 00:04:35,108 --> 00:04:37,307 Wendy: Less people would rather hear that than fuckity. 122 00:04:37,307 --> 00:04:38,387 Wendy: Fuck fuck fuck. 123 00:04:38,228 --> 00:04:40,427 Siren: That's. That's so true. 124 00:04:40,427 --> 00:04:42,548 Siren: I will say that, if you are part 125 00:04:42,548 --> 00:04:45,108 Siren: of this podcast for long, you 126 00:04:45,108 --> 00:04:47,608 Siren: should probably expect to get 127 00:04:47,608 --> 00:04:49,168 Siren: rather moist. 128 00:04:49,567 --> 00:04:50,408 Wendy: Yes. 129 00:04:50,687 --> 00:04:52,848 Siren: Yeah. I mean, it could get rather moist. 130 00:04:52,848 --> 00:04:54,208 Siren: Wherever you are. 131 00:04:54,567 --> 00:04:55,567 Wendy: Your panty. 132 00:04:55,567 --> 00:04:58,048 Wendy: Your your pantaloons will be. 133 00:04:58,048 --> 00:04:59,088 Wendy: Condensated. 134 00:04:59,088 --> 00:05:03,208 Wendy: Anyways, not only do I share a 135 00:05:03,208 --> 00:05:06,447 Wendy: birthday with my twin who I'm a 136 00:05:06,447 --> 00:05:07,208 Wendy: fraternal twin. 137 00:05:07,208 --> 00:05:10,608 Wendy: I also share it with siren, which we met through TikTok. 138 00:05:10,608 --> 00:05:12,208 Wendy: We're vibing and thriving. 139 00:05:12,208 --> 00:05:14,447 Wendy: It was love at first sight. 140 00:05:14,447 --> 00:05:18,067 Wendy: if you tell siren that they are a good girl, she will just melt. 141 00:05:18,028 --> 00:05:19,108 Siren: This is true. 142 00:05:19,108 --> 00:05:19,588 Siren: This is. 143 00:05:19,387 --> 00:05:21,947 Wendy: True. She'll hide in the side chat. 144 00:05:21,947 --> 00:05:23,367 Wendy: I have a fifteen year old dachshund. 145 00:05:23,367 --> 00:05:25,968 Wendy: That's my son, I birthed him, I pushed him out of my cooter cat. 146 00:05:25,968 --> 00:05:27,567 Wendy: You can't tell me any different. 147 00:05:27,367 --> 00:05:29,887 Siren: one of the things that drew me to you and one of the things 148 00:05:29,887 --> 00:05:32,767 Siren: that got us together because I think that's that's one of the 149 00:05:32,767 --> 00:05:33,848 Siren: people's big questions, right? 150 00:05:33,848 --> 00:05:35,367 Siren: Is like, what brought us together? 151 00:05:35,367 --> 00:05:39,648 Siren: and I think this idea, well, there's a lot of things that 152 00:05:39,648 --> 00:05:40,367 Siren: brought us together. 153 00:05:40,367 --> 00:05:42,588 Siren: I think I probably spotted you 154 00:05:42,588 --> 00:05:45,728 Siren: before you spotted me the first 155 00:05:45,728 --> 00:05:46,447 Siren: time. 156 00:05:46,447 --> 00:05:47,048 Siren: Um, you. 157 00:05:47,048 --> 00:05:48,288 Wendy: Peeping me out, you creeper. 158 00:05:48,288 --> 00:05:48,927 Wendy: I love it. 159 00:05:48,887 --> 00:05:49,887 Siren: Just a little bit. 160 00:05:49,887 --> 00:05:50,887 Siren: Just a little bit. 161 00:05:50,887 --> 00:05:51,687 Siren: I was stalking. 162 00:05:51,687 --> 00:05:53,447 Siren: You know, we both have a very 163 00:05:53,447 --> 00:05:55,648 Siren: similar live, a very similar 164 00:05:55,648 --> 00:05:56,767 Siren: vibe when it comes to our 165 00:05:56,767 --> 00:05:57,968 Siren: morning thing. 166 00:05:57,968 --> 00:05:59,807 Siren: And you often started earlier than me. 167 00:05:59,807 --> 00:06:01,247 Siren: So when I'm getting ready with 168 00:06:01,247 --> 00:06:02,447 Siren: my makeup and things like that, 169 00:06:02,447 --> 00:06:03,387 Siren: I would always swipe through 170 00:06:03,387 --> 00:06:04,408 Siren: TikTok. 171 00:06:04,408 --> 00:06:07,747 Siren: And one of the first people I come across was you, and you 172 00:06:07,747 --> 00:06:10,048 Siren: were always sitting there like chatting with people over your 173 00:06:10,048 --> 00:06:14,208 Siren: coffee and I'm like, damn, like, okay, like this is like if. 174 00:06:15,927 --> 00:06:17,007 Wendy: Damn. 175 00:06:17,528 --> 00:06:18,088 Siren: Like that. 176 00:06:18,088 --> 00:06:19,927 Siren: But like in a way, in a way, if 177 00:06:19,927 --> 00:06:20,887 Siren: I'm gonna be honest like this, 178 00:06:20,887 --> 00:06:21,367 Siren: this, this. 179 00:06:21,367 --> 00:06:23,367 Siren: I'm not sure if this is gonna gas you up or how this is gonna 180 00:06:23,367 --> 00:06:24,927 Siren: make you feel, but, like. 181 00:06:24,968 --> 00:06:25,687 Wendy: Gas me. 182 00:06:25,487 --> 00:06:26,747 Siren: Up, but, like, I was like, damn. 183 00:06:26,747 --> 00:06:28,307 Siren: Like, if I was. 184 00:06:28,307 --> 00:06:29,947 Siren: If I was born. 185 00:06:29,947 --> 00:06:34,267 Siren: Sis, this this was probably potentially where I might be at. 186 00:06:34,267 --> 00:06:34,827 Siren: You know what I mean? 187 00:06:34,827 --> 00:06:35,627 Siren: Like, this is the vibe. 188 00:06:35,627 --> 00:06:38,867 Siren: This is the energy that I would be living into. 189 00:06:38,867 --> 00:06:41,528 Siren: and it just kind of drew me in with that, I think with our 190 00:06:41,528 --> 00:06:42,487 Siren: energy and our matching style. 191 00:06:42,487 --> 00:06:43,528 Siren: I didn't even know what at that 192 00:06:43,528 --> 00:06:45,728 Siren: point, that we had the same 193 00:06:45,728 --> 00:06:46,447 Siren: birthday. 194 00:06:46,447 --> 00:06:47,168 Siren: You know what I mean? 195 00:06:47,007 --> 00:06:49,487 Wendy: Like, no, I didn't even know that we were gonna vibe out as 196 00:06:49,487 --> 00:06:50,447 Wendy: much as we did. 197 00:06:50,447 --> 00:06:50,687 Wendy: Yeah. 198 00:06:50,687 --> 00:06:52,767 Wendy: And we have the same tattoo on our finger. 199 00:06:52,608 --> 00:06:53,088 Siren: We do? 200 00:06:53,088 --> 00:06:53,887 Siren: That's freaking crazy. 201 00:06:53,887 --> 00:06:55,648 Siren: You guys can't see this in the podcast land. 202 00:06:55,648 --> 00:07:00,088 Siren: But in the TikToks, we have the same facing the same direction 203 00:07:00,088 --> 00:07:01,608 Siren: too, which is crazy. 204 00:07:01,767 --> 00:07:02,247 Wendy: Crazy? 205 00:07:02,247 --> 00:07:04,048 Wendy: Tell me it's not meant to be. 206 00:07:04,567 --> 00:07:06,327 Wendy: It's meant to be. 207 00:07:06,327 --> 00:07:06,968 Wendy: Be. 208 00:07:07,447 --> 00:07:08,288 Siren: Oh my gosh. 209 00:07:08,127 --> 00:07:09,168 Wendy: Me, me. 210 00:07:09,807 --> 00:07:10,648 Siren: That's that's the note. 211 00:07:10,648 --> 00:07:11,927 Siren: That's what we were going for. 212 00:07:12,048 --> 00:07:16,088 Wendy: Um, giving Twilight glitter, motherfucker. 213 00:07:16,088 --> 00:07:16,608 Wendy: Okay. 214 00:07:16,728 --> 00:07:18,927 Siren: beyond that, I feel like one of the things that drew me to you 215 00:07:18,927 --> 00:07:22,648 Siren: is our similar, vibe in terms of, would I like to call 216 00:07:22,648 --> 00:07:24,007 Siren: abundance and scarcity? 217 00:07:24,007 --> 00:07:27,088 Siren: And you often say, like when one of us wins, we all win. 218 00:07:27,767 --> 00:07:31,728 Wendy: When we're all together and we unite. 219 00:07:31,728 --> 00:07:35,947 Wendy: We're a fucking force when the world is trying to fucking mute 220 00:07:35,947 --> 00:07:37,807 Wendy: us in every fucking way. 221 00:07:37,887 --> 00:07:40,487 Siren: Did you say yeet us or eat us? 222 00:07:41,168 --> 00:07:45,497 Wendy: I said mute, but yeet sounds really fine to eat meat. 223 00:07:45,497 --> 00:07:46,338 Wendy: All the queers. 224 00:07:46,177 --> 00:07:46,737 Wendy: Meat. 225 00:07:47,458 --> 00:07:47,978 Wendy: That sounds. 226 00:07:47,978 --> 00:07:48,937 Wendy: I mean, that sounds better. 227 00:07:48,937 --> 00:07:50,697 Wendy: Honestly, they are trying to eat us. 228 00:07:50,697 --> 00:07:51,858 Wendy: But here we are. 229 00:07:51,858 --> 00:07:54,677 Wendy: it's a motherfucking movement, and it's beautiful. 230 00:07:59,141 --> 00:08:00,161 Siren: just so everybody's aware as 231 00:08:00,161 --> 00:08:01,641 Siren: we're going into this, this 232 00:08:01,641 --> 00:08:02,922 Siren: being our first time through the 233 00:08:02,922 --> 00:08:04,862 Siren: podcast, we want to set this 234 00:08:04,862 --> 00:08:05,182 Siren: tone. 235 00:08:05,182 --> 00:08:07,161 Siren: Like we're generally not going 236 00:08:07,161 --> 00:08:08,541 Siren: to be getting into the science 237 00:08:08,541 --> 00:08:10,862 Siren: end of things or much it's going 238 00:08:10,862 --> 00:08:11,781 Siren: to be mostly our personal 239 00:08:11,781 --> 00:08:12,622 Siren: experience here. 240 00:08:12,622 --> 00:08:13,461 Siren: Right, Wendy. 241 00:08:13,781 --> 00:08:14,341 Wendy: Um. 242 00:08:14,822 --> 00:08:18,601 Siren: So like with that in mind, We're going to be talking about things 243 00:08:18,601 --> 00:08:22,002 Siren: that we're curious about, things that we queer people, as LGBTQ 244 00:08:22,002 --> 00:08:24,901 Siren: community, even the allies, advocates and the people on the 245 00:08:24,901 --> 00:08:28,862 Siren: outside of this community that have questions for us can ask in 246 00:08:28,862 --> 00:08:29,901 Siren: a comfortable way 247 00:08:29,701 --> 00:08:31,141 Wendy: As long as you're respectful. 248 00:08:31,141 --> 00:08:31,382 Wendy: Right. 249 00:08:31,382 --> 00:08:32,461 Wendy: I'm an open book, baby. 250 00:08:32,461 --> 00:08:33,902 Wendy: Let's go, let's go. 251 00:08:33,741 --> 00:08:34,062 Siren: Right. 252 00:08:34,062 --> 00:08:36,662 Siren: So with that, we are recording live on TikTok right now. 253 00:08:36,662 --> 00:08:38,142 Siren: We have an audience here. 254 00:08:38,142 --> 00:08:40,481 Siren: currently, as we're recording this episode, we got, what, 255 00:08:40,481 --> 00:08:41,422 Siren: thirty two on this side? 256 00:08:41,422 --> 00:08:42,701 Siren: How many you got over there, Wendy? 257 00:08:42,861 --> 00:08:43,861 Wendy: Thirty four? 258 00:08:43,701 --> 00:08:44,101 Siren: Hell yeah. 259 00:08:44,101 --> 00:08:46,022 Siren: So There's sixty plus people 260 00:08:46,022 --> 00:08:47,662 Siren: listening to this live right 261 00:08:47,662 --> 00:08:48,701 Siren: now. 262 00:08:48,701 --> 00:08:52,022 Siren: on TikTok as we record this, which is amazing. 263 00:08:52,341 --> 00:08:53,101 Wendy: Anything can. 264 00:08:52,902 --> 00:08:53,621 Wendy: Happen. 265 00:08:53,461 --> 00:08:54,581 Siren: And anything can happen, right? 266 00:08:54,581 --> 00:08:56,221 Siren: Especially when our tongues are out. 267 00:08:56,221 --> 00:08:57,701 Siren: I'm fucking here for it. 268 00:08:57,701 --> 00:08:59,861 Siren: Oh my God. 269 00:09:07,505 --> 00:09:08,625 Siren: So number one. 270 00:09:08,625 --> 00:09:09,265 Siren: We made it. 271 00:09:09,265 --> 00:09:09,745 Siren: We made it. 272 00:09:09,745 --> 00:09:11,505 Siren: How long has it been recording for? 273 00:09:11,505 --> 00:09:13,265 Siren: Seventeen minutes. 274 00:09:13,265 --> 00:09:15,546 Siren: Seventeen minutes, which we can cut some time out of. 275 00:09:15,546 --> 00:09:16,265 Siren: Good job. 276 00:09:17,546 --> 00:09:18,546 Wendy: Yes, we did it. 277 00:09:18,546 --> 00:09:19,546 Wendy: We did it. 278 00:09:19,546 --> 00:09:20,985 Wendy: Segment one. 279 00:09:21,706 --> 00:09:23,846 Siren: so we don't have a full title for segment one yet, but right 280 00:09:23,846 --> 00:09:25,245 Siren: now is, The Spark. 281 00:09:25,245 --> 00:09:27,066 Siren: we've talked about cold questions. 282 00:09:27,066 --> 00:09:28,625 Siren: We have these like hot reaction 283 00:09:28,625 --> 00:09:30,466 Siren: questions where Wendy and I came 284 00:09:30,466 --> 00:09:31,546 Siren: up with some questions ahead of 285 00:09:31,546 --> 00:09:32,426 Siren: time that we were going to ask 286 00:09:32,426 --> 00:09:34,265 Siren: each other to get some cold 287 00:09:34,265 --> 00:09:35,225 Siren: responses before they could be 288 00:09:35,225 --> 00:09:35,505 Siren: flirty. 289 00:09:35,505 --> 00:09:36,875 Siren: They'd be deep, chaotic. 290 00:09:36,875 --> 00:09:37,816 Siren: downright off the wall. 291 00:09:37,816 --> 00:09:38,135 Siren: Weird. 292 00:09:38,135 --> 00:09:39,775 Siren: It could be something to do with something spicy. 293 00:09:39,775 --> 00:09:41,056 Siren: It could be something to do with something. 294 00:09:41,056 --> 00:09:41,916 Siren: anything. 295 00:09:41,916 --> 00:09:43,596 Siren: Anything fucking anything. 296 00:09:43,436 --> 00:09:46,495 Wendy: Dame. anything is game. 297 00:09:46,495 --> 00:09:48,615 Wendy: All right, My first question. 298 00:09:48,416 --> 00:09:50,176 Siren: one of us is probably going to overshare. 299 00:09:50,176 --> 00:09:50,576 Siren: Spoiler. 300 00:09:50,576 --> 00:09:52,316 Siren: It's probably going to be me 301 00:09:52,115 --> 00:09:53,916 Wendy: Okay, so something I was very 302 00:09:53,916 --> 00:09:56,755 Wendy: curious about is when did you 303 00:09:56,755 --> 00:09:58,115 Wendy: realize that you wanted to 304 00:09:58,115 --> 00:09:59,916 Wendy: transition? 305 00:09:59,916 --> 00:10:05,155 Wendy: And, what made you decide to hard sell that shit? 306 00:10:05,155 --> 00:10:07,096 Wendy: Especially with, how your family 307 00:10:07,096 --> 00:10:09,375 Wendy: would react and your 308 00:10:09,375 --> 00:10:11,296 Wendy: relationship and everyone around 309 00:10:11,296 --> 00:10:11,775 Wendy: you. 310 00:10:11,775 --> 00:10:14,456 Wendy: So I was curious to know how that looked. 311 00:10:14,615 --> 00:10:16,216 Siren: So I came out late in life. 312 00:10:16,216 --> 00:10:17,255 Siren: I didn't really have a lot of 313 00:10:17,255 --> 00:10:20,336 Siren: time to explore who I was when I 314 00:10:20,336 --> 00:10:21,216 Siren: was younger. 315 00:10:21,216 --> 00:10:23,975 Siren: And I think a lot of that had to do with the era that I lived in. 316 00:10:23,975 --> 00:10:25,235 Siren: I didn't know that other queer 317 00:10:25,235 --> 00:10:26,696 Siren: people, especially other trans 318 00:10:26,696 --> 00:10:27,936 Siren: people, even existed in the 319 00:10:27,936 --> 00:10:30,395 Siren: world until, I was like Thirteen 320 00:10:30,395 --> 00:10:31,275 Siren: or fourteen. 321 00:10:31,275 --> 00:10:36,515 Siren: And by then I was really just, so entrenched in the church and 322 00:10:36,515 --> 00:10:37,716 Siren: youth ministries and stuff. 323 00:10:37,716 --> 00:10:40,176 Siren: And then in the two thousand, which if you were a part of 324 00:10:40,176 --> 00:10:44,816 Siren: that, you know very well, how crazy some of that, some of the 325 00:10:44,816 --> 00:10:48,515 Siren: stuff in there could get in terms of like making you want to 326 00:10:48,515 --> 00:10:50,135 Siren: not be yourself. 327 00:10:50,456 --> 00:10:51,096 Wendy: Yeah. 328 00:10:51,456 --> 00:10:52,975 Siren: so it wasn't until I was thirty 329 00:10:52,975 --> 00:10:55,216 Siren: three years old, right around 330 00:10:55,216 --> 00:10:56,456 Siren: this time, actually, right in 331 00:10:56,456 --> 00:10:58,275 Siren: the beginning of October, my 332 00:10:58,275 --> 00:11:00,235 Siren: oldest, was thinking of 333 00:11:00,235 --> 00:11:01,456 Siren: Halloween costumes for the 334 00:11:01,456 --> 00:11:03,775 Siren: family and was obsessed with 335 00:11:03,775 --> 00:11:05,056 Siren: Scooby-Doo at the time and 336 00:11:05,056 --> 00:11:06,296 Siren: wanted to go Scooby-Doo and the 337 00:11:06,296 --> 00:11:06,936 Siren: gang. 338 00:11:06,936 --> 00:11:09,245 Siren: he wanted to be Shaggy. 339 00:11:09,245 --> 00:11:09,846 Siren: We had a dog. 340 00:11:09,846 --> 00:11:13,046 Siren: My ex and I. I'm named Roscoe, who went to Scooby. 341 00:11:13,046 --> 00:11:16,365 Siren: Obviously my ex really wanted to go as Daphne, and then we had my 342 00:11:16,365 --> 00:11:19,206 Siren: youngest, who was assigned male at birth, and then myself. 343 00:11:19,206 --> 00:11:22,385 Siren: between Fred and Velma, my ex 344 00:11:22,385 --> 00:11:23,605 Siren: when we were figuring this out 345 00:11:23,605 --> 00:11:25,125 Siren: was like, we can dress, we can 346 00:11:25,125 --> 00:11:26,946 Siren: get we can get Huxley up as as 347 00:11:26,946 --> 00:11:27,285 Siren: Velma. 348 00:11:27,285 --> 00:11:27,605 Siren: That's fine. 349 00:11:27,605 --> 00:11:29,686 Siren: You can be Fred like, it's it's fine. 350 00:11:29,686 --> 00:11:31,326 Siren: And I sat in that moment. 351 00:11:31,326 --> 00:11:34,645 Siren: I remember in the car we were going up to, like, her parents 352 00:11:34,645 --> 00:11:38,485 Siren: house for something, probably like, I don't know, the 353 00:11:38,485 --> 00:11:40,485 Siren: beginning of, like this. 354 00:11:40,485 --> 00:11:41,446 Siren: This is the lore drop. 355 00:11:41,446 --> 00:11:43,326 Siren: You ready for a big ass lore drop? 356 00:11:43,326 --> 00:11:45,405 Siren: Um, probably the beginning of archery season. 357 00:11:45,405 --> 00:11:46,686 Siren: Like hunting season. 358 00:11:47,046 --> 00:11:47,686 Wendy: Yeah. 359 00:11:48,086 --> 00:11:50,005 Siren: Um, I have may or may not. 360 00:11:50,005 --> 00:11:56,326 Siren: Have I hit a deer with multiple arrows before in my life? 361 00:11:56,326 --> 00:11:59,245 Siren: Um, all of them have survived. 362 00:11:59,686 --> 00:12:00,166 Wendy: Oh. 363 00:12:00,365 --> 00:12:02,855 Siren: Yeah. I'm a terrible shot, guys. 364 00:12:02,855 --> 00:12:03,936 Siren: I'm awful. 365 00:12:03,936 --> 00:12:06,576 Siren: So don't don't get me involved in it. 366 00:12:06,576 --> 00:12:07,696 Siren: Don't get me involved in it. 367 00:12:07,696 --> 00:12:11,216 Siren: Yes, but I have I have attempted, um, that before. 368 00:12:11,216 --> 00:12:12,336 Siren: So that's probably when it was. 369 00:12:12,336 --> 00:12:16,495 Siren: But, um, on our way up there, I was like, I told her this. 370 00:12:16,495 --> 00:12:19,936 Siren: I was like, I don't know why, but I kind of want to be Velma. 371 00:12:20,936 --> 00:12:23,655 Siren: And in that moment, I didn't say this out loud at the time, but I 372 00:12:23,655 --> 00:12:25,895 Siren: was like, I need to figure out what that means. 373 00:12:25,895 --> 00:12:29,495 Siren: Yeah, because, I had started, hearing more about, just the 374 00:12:29,495 --> 00:12:32,495 Siren: trans story and like that, from other people's perspective. 375 00:12:32,495 --> 00:12:34,255 Siren: I hadn't really dived in entirely. 376 00:12:34,255 --> 00:12:37,655 Siren: But at that point in life, it had unlocked something. 377 00:12:37,655 --> 00:12:40,495 Siren: I think that that feeling had unlocked something. 378 00:12:40,495 --> 00:12:41,936 Siren: Over the next month, I explored 379 00:12:41,936 --> 00:12:43,836 Siren: it and I think the hard sell 380 00:12:43,836 --> 00:12:44,615 Siren: moment. 381 00:12:44,615 --> 00:12:46,096 Siren: I think it would help me more than anything else. 382 00:12:46,096 --> 00:12:48,546 Siren: Was my my former partner. 383 00:12:48,546 --> 00:12:51,265 Siren: Um, at the time. 384 00:12:51,265 --> 00:12:55,145 Siren: Uh, I'm not gonna name her right now because. 385 00:12:57,025 --> 00:12:59,466 Siren: I don't know, I don't have her permission to name her, but. 386 00:12:59,306 --> 00:12:59,785 Wendy: Right. 387 00:12:59,586 --> 00:13:00,546 Wendy: Mind your business. 388 00:13:00,385 --> 00:13:00,865 Wendy: Right. 389 00:13:01,306 --> 00:13:04,346 Siren: Um, but she was incredible. 390 00:13:04,346 --> 00:13:06,186 Siren: She was incredibly supportive. 391 00:13:06,186 --> 00:13:11,865 Siren: And every time that I like, after I had after my egg had 392 00:13:11,865 --> 00:13:14,005 Siren: cracked, and I kind of realized what was going on and who I was, 393 00:13:14,005 --> 00:13:17,745 Siren: and, like, all these memories kept flooding back in. 394 00:13:17,745 --> 00:13:19,706 Siren: Every time I'd have a crash, I'd be like, I can't do this. 395 00:13:19,706 --> 00:13:20,346 Siren: This is crazy. 396 00:13:20,346 --> 00:13:21,105 Siren: Like, what the hell? 397 00:13:21,105 --> 00:13:21,865 Siren: This is insane. 398 00:13:21,865 --> 00:13:23,946 Siren: Like, I'm just like, no, no, no. It's like, I'll just. 399 00:13:23,946 --> 00:13:24,666 Siren: I'll put up with it. 400 00:13:24,666 --> 00:13:25,265 Siren: I'll bear with it. 401 00:13:25,265 --> 00:13:25,745 Siren: It's fine. 402 00:13:25,745 --> 00:13:26,225 Siren: I'll just. 403 00:13:26,225 --> 00:13:29,426 Siren: I'll deal with it every single time. 404 00:13:29,426 --> 00:13:34,125 Siren: Every single time she came at me was like, you have everything to 405 00:13:34,125 --> 00:13:39,166 Siren: gain basically like this is the opportunity to be who you are. 406 00:13:39,166 --> 00:13:41,285 Siren: Like, you can't throw that away. 407 00:13:41,285 --> 00:13:43,785 Siren: You would never tell anybody else to throw that away. 408 00:13:43,785 --> 00:13:46,985 Siren: And like like she was just so encouraging in those moments. 409 00:13:47,745 --> 00:13:48,865 Wendy: That's really awesome. 410 00:13:49,105 --> 00:13:49,745 Wendy: Yeah. 411 00:13:49,905 --> 00:13:52,505 Siren: Yeah. I had to drop it on my mom and my dad. 412 00:13:52,505 --> 00:13:53,466 Siren: My dad took it really well. 413 00:13:53,466 --> 00:13:54,466 Siren: My mom did not. 414 00:13:54,466 --> 00:13:55,745 Siren: Took it as expected. 415 00:13:55,946 --> 00:14:00,826 Wendy: How long from you figuring that out and starting the process 416 00:14:00,826 --> 00:14:03,306 Wendy: with, like, your ex partner? 417 00:14:03,306 --> 00:14:06,105 Wendy: Did you decide to tell your parents? 418 00:14:05,905 --> 00:14:07,025 Siren: I'm pretty sure I told them, 419 00:14:07,025 --> 00:14:08,770 Siren: like, early November, And I 420 00:14:08,770 --> 00:14:09,591 Siren: basically was like, I don't 421 00:14:09,591 --> 00:14:11,211 Siren: really know what this is, but 422 00:14:11,211 --> 00:14:12,191 Siren: it's something. 423 00:14:12,191 --> 00:14:15,030 Siren: And I might be trans, I don't 424 00:14:15,030 --> 00:14:18,230 Siren: know, but I'm gonna explore it 425 00:14:18,230 --> 00:14:18,951 Siren: and. 426 00:14:18,951 --> 00:14:20,870 Siren: I hope I have your support. 427 00:14:21,350 --> 00:14:22,110 Wendy: Right. 428 00:14:22,230 --> 00:14:23,990 Siren: was kind of that conversation. 429 00:14:24,510 --> 00:14:26,510 Wendy: Now, did you lose anyone over this? 430 00:14:26,750 --> 00:14:29,071 Siren: Oh my God, countless people. 431 00:14:28,870 --> 00:14:31,791 Wendy: People that were, like, really, really close to you. 432 00:14:31,591 --> 00:14:32,510 Siren: I mean, at this point, I haven't 433 00:14:32,510 --> 00:14:33,671 Siren: talked to my dad for, like, nine 434 00:14:33,671 --> 00:14:34,270 Siren: months. 435 00:14:34,270 --> 00:14:36,971 Siren: that's less over me and more over how I support my kid. 436 00:14:37,490 --> 00:14:38,250 Wendy: Right? 437 00:14:38,051 --> 00:14:38,770 Siren: But. 438 00:14:38,571 --> 00:14:39,971 Wendy: That's very brave. 439 00:14:39,971 --> 00:14:40,971 Wendy: I'm proud of you. 440 00:14:41,051 --> 00:14:41,850 Siren: Thank you. 441 00:14:42,331 --> 00:14:43,451 Wendy: Very, very brave. 442 00:14:44,890 --> 00:14:45,571 Wendy: I'm like. 443 00:14:45,370 --> 00:14:49,250 Wendy: Can you imagine, like people listening? 444 00:14:49,250 --> 00:14:49,770 Wendy: The viewers. 445 00:14:49,770 --> 00:14:50,211 Wendy: Can you. 446 00:14:50,211 --> 00:14:53,211 Wendy: Can you fucking imagine how that would be just to do that? 447 00:14:53,211 --> 00:14:54,451 Wendy: That takes a lot of courage. 448 00:14:54,451 --> 00:14:56,931 Wendy: You know, takes a lot of courage. 449 00:14:56,770 --> 00:15:01,291 Siren: Someone had just asked, um, what did the exploring part of your 450 00:15:01,291 --> 00:15:03,051 Siren: life look like? 451 00:15:03,051 --> 00:15:07,270 Siren: I think especially in that point, the exploring was very 452 00:15:07,270 --> 00:15:09,410 Siren: like behind closed doors. 453 00:15:09,410 --> 00:15:12,471 Siren: My ex knew about it, and my kids were too young to kind of 454 00:15:12,471 --> 00:15:15,350 Siren: realize what was going on, especially my youngest. 455 00:15:15,350 --> 00:15:17,030 Siren: she was two. 456 00:15:17,591 --> 00:15:19,791 Wendy: So really, she's only known you as. 457 00:15:20,471 --> 00:15:21,150 Siren: Oh, yeah. 458 00:15:21,030 --> 00:15:21,791 Wendy: Mom. 459 00:15:21,870 --> 00:15:22,471 Siren: Oh, yeah. 460 00:15:22,471 --> 00:15:24,510 Siren: Yeah. I've only ever been mom to her. 461 00:15:24,990 --> 00:15:26,951 Wendy: So is it like Mom and mommy or what? 462 00:15:26,791 --> 00:15:28,561 Wendy: Yeah. Like. Okay. 463 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:32,801 Wendy: And your oldest, how does your oldest handle. 464 00:15:32,801 --> 00:15:34,721 Wendy: Like how did they handle it? 465 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,880 Siren: I mean, he was five, so he was also kind of. 466 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,360 Siren: He didn't really, you know, kids. 467 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:42,640 Siren: Kids love you. 468 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:44,240 Siren: They love you as a person they don't like. 469 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:47,400 Siren: It's so beyond their understanding of you is so 470 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:48,760 Siren: beyond your gender. 471 00:15:49,201 --> 00:15:53,921 Wendy: Have they ever, like, rebelled against that at all? 472 00:15:53,921 --> 00:15:58,000 Wendy: Or. They've just been totally like they moved right into it. 473 00:15:57,841 --> 00:16:00,240 Siren: My, they they goof about it when 474 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:01,561 Siren: they don't realize that it hurts 475 00:16:01,561 --> 00:16:02,201 Siren: me. 476 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:03,120 Wendy: Yeah. 477 00:16:02,961 --> 00:16:06,120 Siren: You know, like calling me dad, like, jokingly calling me dad, 478 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:08,400 Siren: but they don't realize that it hurts me sometimes. 479 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:08,841 Wendy: Yeah. 480 00:16:08,841 --> 00:16:10,921 Siren: but they've never done it intentionally. 481 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:11,721 Wendy: You can. 482 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:13,561 Wendy: Drop them off at the fire station for a couple. 483 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:13,880 Wendy: Days. 484 00:16:13,961 --> 00:16:17,280 Siren: No, no, they're they're incredible kids, to be honest. 485 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:18,541 Siren: Like, I love them so much. 486 00:16:18,541 --> 00:16:21,020 Siren: I just, I love I love being a mom. 487 00:16:21,821 --> 00:16:24,541 Siren: That was a that was a big that was a big, deep question to kind 488 00:16:24,541 --> 00:16:25,660 Siren: of jump us off with. 489 00:16:25,660 --> 00:16:28,280 Siren: I was starting with like some like silly like kind of spicy 490 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:29,461 Siren: things, but like. 491 00:16:29,591 --> 00:16:30,630 Wendy: Nope. 492 00:16:30,431 --> 00:16:31,191 Wendy: We're getting. 493 00:16:30,990 --> 00:16:31,431 Wendy: Deep. 494 00:16:31,311 --> 00:16:32,350 Siren: No. Okay. 495 00:16:32,750 --> 00:16:34,551 Wendy: Yeah. We'll get spicy later. 496 00:16:34,551 --> 00:16:36,910 Wendy: Well, I go, you go. 497 00:16:36,910 --> 00:16:38,471 Wendy: You're tagged in, baby. 498 00:16:38,471 --> 00:16:39,750 Wendy: What do you got for me? 499 00:16:39,551 --> 00:16:41,990 Siren: We've never talked about this. 500 00:16:41,990 --> 00:16:43,350 Siren: Do you have children? 501 00:16:43,150 --> 00:16:44,191 Wendy: I do not. 502 00:16:44,030 --> 00:16:45,350 Siren: You don't have kids? 503 00:16:45,711 --> 00:16:50,311 Wendy: I consider some my kids, but I have not given birth to any 504 00:16:50,311 --> 00:16:52,230 Wendy: children besides Titus, my dog. 505 00:16:52,630 --> 00:16:55,270 Siren: Do you regret not having children? 506 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,321 Wendy: I think that, when I was younger, I wanted to have kids 507 00:16:59,321 --> 00:17:00,280 Wendy: because I love kids. 508 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,120 Wendy: And I'm like, kids are very drawn to me. 509 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,820 Wendy: And I'm very Mama bear with kids 510 00:17:05,820 --> 00:17:08,721 Wendy: and protective I just am able to 511 00:17:08,721 --> 00:17:10,820 Wendy: understand a kid and freely, 512 00:17:10,820 --> 00:17:13,020 Wendy: just, like, have fun with them, 513 00:17:13,020 --> 00:17:16,381 Wendy: but also try to like, teach them 514 00:17:16,381 --> 00:17:18,060 Wendy: without being like making them 515 00:17:18,060 --> 00:17:19,500 Wendy: think that you're judging them 516 00:17:19,500 --> 00:17:20,260 Wendy: or. 517 00:17:20,260 --> 00:17:21,580 Wendy: But I have twenty one nieces and 518 00:17:21,580 --> 00:17:24,221 Wendy: nephews and ten greats, so like 519 00:17:24,221 --> 00:17:26,901 Wendy: I had to help raise half of 520 00:17:26,901 --> 00:17:27,941 Wendy: these kids. 521 00:17:27,941 --> 00:17:31,000 Wendy: So, once I got to a certain age, 522 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,161 Wendy: I was like, you know, you have 523 00:17:34,161 --> 00:17:35,121 Wendy: to run after these little 524 00:17:35,121 --> 00:17:35,921 Wendy: motherfuckers. 525 00:17:35,921 --> 00:17:38,361 Wendy: Like, have you ever chased a two year old around? 526 00:17:38,361 --> 00:17:39,201 Wendy: I know you have. 527 00:17:39,201 --> 00:17:40,641 Wendy: They fucking are so fast. 528 00:17:40,641 --> 00:17:41,800 Wendy: They're fast as fuck. 529 00:17:41,641 --> 00:17:43,401 Siren: There's a moment when you're a parent. 530 00:17:43,401 --> 00:17:44,840 Siren: There's parents out there that realize this. 531 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:46,441 Siren: And aunts and uncles, I assume, 532 00:17:46,441 --> 00:17:47,280 Siren: that, are out there that realize 533 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:47,961 Siren: this, too. 534 00:17:47,961 --> 00:17:49,580 Siren: There's a moment where the child 535 00:17:49,580 --> 00:17:51,300 Siren: can run faster than you can 536 00:17:51,300 --> 00:17:52,020 Siren: walk. 537 00:17:52,340 --> 00:17:52,901 Wendy: Yeah. 538 00:17:52,740 --> 00:17:55,881 Siren: And that moment, you're fucking done for when you have to trot 539 00:17:55,881 --> 00:17:58,141 Siren: or run to keep up with them. 540 00:17:58,260 --> 00:17:58,941 Wendy: Yeah. 541 00:17:59,060 --> 00:17:59,621 Siren: Like. 542 00:17:59,461 --> 00:18:00,060 Wendy: Yeah. 543 00:18:00,020 --> 00:18:01,780 Siren: Oh my God. All bets. 544 00:18:01,580 --> 00:18:02,060 Wendy: Are off. 545 00:18:01,980 --> 00:18:04,560 Wendy: I got to the age where I was like, you know what? 546 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:06,601 Wendy: I'm getting too old to chase you around. 547 00:18:06,601 --> 00:18:09,921 Wendy: And not only that, I don't want to chase you around. 548 00:18:09,921 --> 00:18:11,921 Wendy: So, I was like, I have enough 549 00:18:11,921 --> 00:18:14,080 Wendy: nieces and nephews, and I'm open 550 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:15,760 Wendy: to, like, my partner having 551 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:17,080 Wendy: kids. 552 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,141 Wendy: I would say, being married twice 553 00:18:19,141 --> 00:18:21,980 Wendy: and being with someone in my 554 00:18:21,980 --> 00:18:23,540 Wendy: first marriage. 555 00:18:23,540 --> 00:18:28,141 Wendy: No kids, just my nieces and nephews, mainly that were around 556 00:18:28,141 --> 00:18:29,421 Wendy: and they were younger. 557 00:18:29,421 --> 00:18:30,861 Wendy: And then being in a relationship 558 00:18:30,861 --> 00:18:32,580 Wendy: with someone who actively had 559 00:18:32,580 --> 00:18:34,780 Wendy: kids in the house was very 560 00:18:34,780 --> 00:18:35,181 Wendy: different. 561 00:18:35,181 --> 00:18:38,381 Wendy: Like it brought up a lot of my 562 00:18:38,381 --> 00:18:40,471 Wendy: kind of trauma with having a big 563 00:18:40,471 --> 00:18:42,030 Wendy: family and like, don't touch my 564 00:18:42,030 --> 00:18:42,391 Wendy: shit. 565 00:18:42,391 --> 00:18:42,951 Wendy: Don't touch. 566 00:18:42,951 --> 00:18:44,310 Wendy: Like with the kids. 567 00:18:44,310 --> 00:18:49,391 Wendy: It's like there's nothing that's not off bounds, you know? 568 00:18:49,391 --> 00:18:52,510 Wendy: Like, you want to share my clothes and, like, wear my shoes 569 00:18:52,510 --> 00:18:54,911 Wendy: and like, oh my God, you might fucking stain it. 570 00:18:54,911 --> 00:18:58,131 Wendy: And that was like a control thing that I had to, sort of get 571 00:18:58,131 --> 00:19:00,790 Wendy: over and just be whatever, kid. 572 00:19:00,790 --> 00:19:04,750 Wendy: Go go through the closet if you want to wear something. 573 00:19:04,750 --> 00:19:07,550 Wendy: But at first it was hard because I was used to having to hide 574 00:19:07,550 --> 00:19:12,270 Wendy: stuff from my family because, I moved out at sixteen and 575 00:19:12,270 --> 00:19:15,290 Wendy: everything that I worked for, these motherfuckers tried to 576 00:19:15,290 --> 00:19:16,851 Wendy: take all the time. 577 00:19:16,851 --> 00:19:19,830 Wendy: so, a lot of trauma responses with stuff. 578 00:19:19,830 --> 00:19:23,951 Wendy: I'm forty four now, so I'm ready to maybe be a little Grandma 579 00:19:23,951 --> 00:19:26,921 Wendy: Wendy, maybe like Ma'am. 580 00:19:26,921 --> 00:19:27,840 Wendy: All up in this bitch. 581 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:29,161 Wendy: Let's go. 582 00:19:29,161 --> 00:19:30,560 Wendy: Will we have the little baby? 583 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,881 Wendy: And then we send the baby back to the parents after a day or 584 00:19:33,881 --> 00:19:34,800 Wendy: two, you know? 585 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:36,280 Wendy: Yeah, and I'm okay with that. 586 00:19:36,441 --> 00:19:38,040 Siren: Yeah, absolutely. 587 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:41,800 Siren: I think that's that's a role that, like, every kid needs in 588 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:42,480 Siren: their life, too. 589 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,040 Siren: It's not just like the parent role. 590 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:49,221 Siren: Like, honestly, kids need adults in their life. 591 00:19:49,221 --> 00:19:50,500 Siren: They don't need adults in their life. 592 00:19:50,500 --> 00:19:52,941 Siren: They're gonna act like kids, or they just need adults in their 593 00:19:52,941 --> 00:19:57,060 Siren: life who aren't gonna get mad at them for acting like kids. 594 00:19:57,060 --> 00:19:57,820 Siren: Yeah, you know what I mean? 595 00:19:57,820 --> 00:19:58,861 Siren: And that aren't their parents. 596 00:19:58,861 --> 00:19:59,861 Siren: They need adults that they can 597 00:19:59,861 --> 00:20:00,780 Siren: trust that aren't gonna get mad 598 00:20:00,780 --> 00:20:02,260 Siren: at them for acting like kids 599 00:20:02,260 --> 00:20:04,461 Siren: and, like, you know, that's what 600 00:20:04,461 --> 00:20:05,221 Siren: that's what. 601 00:20:05,671 --> 00:20:06,431 Wendy: Just let him. 602 00:20:06,270 --> 00:20:06,790 Wendy: Be. 603 00:20:06,631 --> 00:20:07,230 Siren: Yeah. 604 00:20:07,471 --> 00:20:07,951 Wendy: Yeah. 605 00:20:07,790 --> 00:20:08,911 Wendy: Because, look, we're all. 606 00:20:08,911 --> 00:20:11,151 Wendy: We're all learning this life together. 607 00:20:11,151 --> 00:20:12,270 Wendy: You know, there's no manual. 608 00:20:12,270 --> 00:20:13,391 Wendy: There's no handbook. 609 00:20:16,527 --> 00:20:17,747 Wendy: those are good ones. 610 00:20:17,547 --> 00:20:18,507 Wendy: Those were good ones. 611 00:20:18,507 --> 00:20:19,267 Wendy: Let's go. 612 00:20:19,106 --> 00:20:20,946 Siren: Okay, I'm gonna loosen it up just a little bit. 613 00:20:20,946 --> 00:20:22,547 Siren: I'm just gonna loosen it up just a little bit. 614 00:20:22,586 --> 00:20:23,027 Wendy: Okay. 615 00:20:23,267 --> 00:20:27,586 Siren: What is the worst lesbian stereotype that you accidentally 616 00:20:27,586 --> 00:20:28,586 Siren: lived up to. 617 00:20:30,227 --> 00:20:30,586 Wendy: That. 618 00:20:30,386 --> 00:20:32,307 Wendy: You accidentally lived up to? 619 00:20:32,146 --> 00:20:36,307 Siren: Yeah. Like, what stereotype did you like that you. 620 00:20:36,307 --> 00:20:37,346 Siren: That you accidentally. 621 00:20:37,346 --> 00:20:39,027 Siren: Just like you just like, were like. 622 00:20:39,027 --> 00:20:39,467 Siren: You know what? 623 00:20:39,467 --> 00:20:39,946 Siren: Fuck it. 624 00:20:39,946 --> 00:20:40,547 Siren: It's me. 625 00:20:40,547 --> 00:20:41,747 Siren: We're going for it. 626 00:20:43,507 --> 00:20:44,426 Wendy: Oh, no. 627 00:20:47,106 --> 00:20:48,666 Wendy: Did I live up to a stereotype? 628 00:20:48,666 --> 00:20:49,626 Wendy: You hauling? 629 00:20:49,626 --> 00:20:50,826 Wendy: Yeah, for sure. 630 00:20:50,946 --> 00:20:52,027 Siren: You you definitely. 631 00:20:52,027 --> 00:20:53,557 Siren: You you hard as a. 632 00:20:53,396 --> 00:20:54,436 Wendy: Oh, yeah. 633 00:20:54,356 --> 00:20:55,957 Wendy: I've done it with both. 634 00:20:55,957 --> 00:20:56,957 Wendy: Both marriages. 635 00:20:56,957 --> 00:20:57,636 Wendy: Yeah. 636 00:20:57,477 --> 00:20:58,277 Siren: Oh my gosh. 637 00:20:58,277 --> 00:20:59,916 Siren: How how long did it take. 638 00:21:00,757 --> 00:21:01,317 Wendy: Um. 639 00:21:01,916 --> 00:21:04,396 Wendy: The first one like three weeks. 640 00:21:04,396 --> 00:21:07,396 Wendy: But we were together for thirteen years after. 641 00:21:07,237 --> 00:21:08,797 Siren: After those three weeks. 642 00:21:09,116 --> 00:21:09,916 Wendy: Yeah. 643 00:21:09,757 --> 00:21:10,356 Siren: Wow. 644 00:21:10,436 --> 00:21:11,116 Wendy: Yeah. 645 00:21:12,317 --> 00:21:16,237 Wendy: And then the second one, it's different because we knew each 646 00:21:16,237 --> 00:21:19,916 Wendy: other for nine years before, like we were friends. 647 00:21:19,916 --> 00:21:21,416 Wendy: we always had this, connection 648 00:21:21,416 --> 00:21:23,116 Wendy: and chemistry, but we never 649 00:21:23,116 --> 00:21:24,817 Wendy: acted on it because we were with 650 00:21:24,817 --> 00:21:26,217 Wendy: someone. 651 00:21:26,217 --> 00:21:29,457 Wendy: So we just, like, were always drawn to each other. 652 00:21:29,457 --> 00:21:38,416 Wendy: And then, um, I don't know, um, like day two, we started dating 653 00:21:38,416 --> 00:21:39,856 Wendy: and then we moved in. 654 00:21:39,856 --> 00:21:45,576 Wendy: We literally she proposed to me within two and a half months of 655 00:21:45,576 --> 00:21:50,987 Wendy: us dating, and we were living together and married before a 656 00:21:50,987 --> 00:21:52,507 Wendy: year was up. 657 00:21:52,507 --> 00:21:53,987 Wendy: And then we were we were 658 00:21:53,987 --> 00:21:55,946 Wendy: divorced and separated within 659 00:21:55,946 --> 00:21:56,666 Wendy: that year. 660 00:21:58,747 --> 00:22:01,146 Siren: So listen. 661 00:22:00,987 --> 00:22:03,027 Wendy: Welcome to my life. 662 00:22:02,866 --> 00:22:06,267 Siren: No one ever said being a lesbian was easy. 663 00:22:06,267 --> 00:22:07,507 Siren: No one ever said that. 664 00:22:07,747 --> 00:22:10,467 Wendy: To get divorced, married and divorce all New Years. 665 00:22:10,467 --> 00:22:12,186 Wendy: Wild behavior. 666 00:22:12,027 --> 00:22:12,666 Wendy: Yeah. 667 00:22:12,747 --> 00:22:13,826 Wendy: Wild. 668 00:22:13,866 --> 00:22:14,507 Wendy: Yeah. 669 00:22:14,346 --> 00:22:15,346 Wendy: But 670 00:22:15,146 --> 00:22:16,287 Siren: we learn and we grow. 671 00:22:16,926 --> 00:22:19,166 Wendy: I mean, yes, when you know better, you do better. 672 00:22:19,287 --> 00:22:19,767 Siren: you know what? 673 00:22:19,767 --> 00:22:20,406 Siren: You know what's funny? 674 00:22:20,406 --> 00:22:22,886 Siren: I to answer my own question. 675 00:22:22,886 --> 00:22:24,846 Siren: I'm not sure if you want to, like, change it up and throw it 676 00:22:24,846 --> 00:22:27,386 Siren: back at me, but to answer my own question, I actually think, 677 00:22:27,386 --> 00:22:29,886 Siren: looking back, I'm pretty sure my ex and I kind of. 678 00:22:29,886 --> 00:22:30,967 Siren: Uvalde. 679 00:22:30,967 --> 00:22:32,166 Siren: Yeah, yeah. 680 00:22:32,166 --> 00:22:33,287 Siren: Like I. 681 00:22:33,886 --> 00:22:34,406 Wendy: I'm not. 682 00:22:34,207 --> 00:22:35,527 Wendy: Surprised you're a lesbian. 683 00:22:35,326 --> 00:22:35,886 Wendy: Hello. 684 00:22:35,727 --> 00:22:36,807 Siren: I know this is what I'm saying 685 00:22:36,807 --> 00:22:39,247 Siren: is like like she basically moved 686 00:22:39,247 --> 00:22:42,007 Siren: in with me two months after we 687 00:22:42,007 --> 00:22:43,166 Siren: started dating. 688 00:22:43,166 --> 00:22:45,007 Siren: Was like, lived in my house. 689 00:22:45,007 --> 00:22:47,537 Siren: and we were together for a long time after that. 690 00:22:47,696 --> 00:22:49,737 Wendy: Look, I think not only lesbians can. 691 00:22:49,737 --> 00:22:50,257 Wendy: Newhall. 692 00:22:50,057 --> 00:22:50,936 Wendy: I think that's true. 693 00:22:50,737 --> 00:22:52,896 Wendy: Of heterosexual people. 694 00:22:52,896 --> 00:22:53,896 Wendy: Newhall, too. 695 00:22:53,737 --> 00:22:54,497 Siren: That's true. 696 00:22:54,497 --> 00:22:55,416 Siren: Absolutely, absolutely. 697 00:22:55,416 --> 00:22:57,217 Siren: It's just one of those stereotypes. 698 00:22:57,217 --> 00:23:00,257 Siren: the other one for sure, one hundred percent. 699 00:23:00,257 --> 00:23:04,817 Siren: Subaru knew I was a lesbian before I knew I was a lesbian. 700 00:23:04,856 --> 00:23:05,696 Wendy: I fucking. 701 00:23:05,497 --> 00:23:06,136 Wendy: Hate it. 702 00:23:05,977 --> 00:23:07,737 Siren: one hundred percent. 703 00:23:07,576 --> 00:23:10,336 Wendy: Everyone that comes into the chat when they see me because 704 00:23:10,336 --> 00:23:12,057 Wendy: I'm blatantly a lesbian. 705 00:23:12,057 --> 00:23:13,537 Wendy: What kind of Subaru are you driving? 706 00:23:13,537 --> 00:23:14,737 Wendy: And what do I say? 707 00:23:14,737 --> 00:23:17,057 Wendy: Ask your mom because I was fucking her in. 708 00:23:16,856 --> 00:23:18,856 Wendy: It last night. 709 00:23:19,257 --> 00:23:22,557 Wendy: So ask your motherfucking mama because she liked my Subaru all 710 00:23:22,557 --> 00:23:23,876 Wendy: up in her coochie ru. 711 00:23:23,717 --> 00:23:24,836 Speaker 5: Oh my God. 712 00:23:27,116 --> 00:23:28,596 Wendy: Oh, good. 713 00:23:28,567 --> 00:23:29,686 Speaker 5: Oh my God. 714 00:23:29,487 --> 00:23:30,967 Wendy: I digress. 715 00:23:31,567 --> 00:23:32,846 Siren: We all digress. 716 00:23:33,126 --> 00:23:36,646 Wendy: Yes, someone said I have a Honda Fit because I'm a pansexual. 717 00:23:38,527 --> 00:23:39,967 Wendy: Well, I know a pansexual that 718 00:23:39,967 --> 00:23:41,426 Wendy: has a big ass Chevy fucking 719 00:23:41,426 --> 00:23:42,166 Wendy: truck. 720 00:23:42,446 --> 00:23:47,406 Siren: So did they put, um, like, uh, cojones on the back? 721 00:23:47,727 --> 00:23:49,247 Wendy: No, no. 722 00:23:49,487 --> 00:23:51,487 Wendy: No. That is so stupid. 723 00:23:51,326 --> 00:23:52,166 Speaker 5: Well, I mean. 724 00:23:52,126 --> 00:23:57,406 Siren: If you want to make your truck trans like your truck, if you. 725 00:23:57,207 --> 00:23:57,606 Wendy: Put. 726 00:23:57,446 --> 00:24:00,166 Siren: If you put testicles on a truck, you'd make it transgender. 727 00:24:00,686 --> 00:24:01,247 Wendy: Oh. 728 00:24:02,326 --> 00:24:04,886 Wendy: Why can't why can't we get, like, pussy lips for the back of 729 00:24:04,886 --> 00:24:05,487 Wendy: the truck, though? 730 00:24:05,487 --> 00:24:06,007 Wendy: Why? 731 00:24:05,807 --> 00:24:07,047 Wendy: I always thought that'd be like. 732 00:24:06,846 --> 00:24:09,007 Siren: God, that'd be so good, though. 733 00:24:09,007 --> 00:24:09,446 Siren: Oh my. 734 00:24:09,247 --> 00:24:09,606 Wendy: God. 735 00:24:09,527 --> 00:24:11,846 Wendy: But you don't ever see, like, a pair of tits or fucking. 736 00:24:11,846 --> 00:24:13,406 Wendy: You're flapping ass pussy. 737 00:24:13,567 --> 00:24:15,487 Siren: Well, like, here's the thing. 738 00:24:15,487 --> 00:24:18,007 Siren: Well, the thing with the the the balls too. 739 00:24:18,007 --> 00:24:18,487 Siren: Like what? 740 00:24:18,487 --> 00:24:20,126 Siren: Like, who wants to see that? 741 00:24:20,126 --> 00:24:21,807 Siren: Like, I don't want to see that. 742 00:24:21,727 --> 00:24:22,767 Wendy: Who likes balls? 743 00:24:22,767 --> 00:24:24,696 Wendy: Like, honestly, who likes them? 744 00:24:26,737 --> 00:24:28,257 Wendy: Exactly. 745 00:24:28,257 --> 00:24:28,936 Wendy: Crickets. 746 00:24:28,936 --> 00:24:30,336 Wendy: Crickets boys. 747 00:24:30,616 --> 00:24:33,497 Siren: Maybe. Yeah, I don't know. 748 00:24:33,497 --> 00:24:34,416 Siren: Anybody. 749 00:24:34,416 --> 00:24:34,936 Siren: Can we get. 750 00:24:34,936 --> 00:24:37,856 Siren: This is a quick poll of the of the TikTok live chat. 751 00:24:37,856 --> 00:24:42,497 Siren: Can we get, um, can we get this is this is no judgment. 752 00:24:42,497 --> 00:24:44,497 Siren: No judgment whatsoever. 753 00:24:44,497 --> 00:24:46,817 Siren: Everybody, everybody close your eyes. 754 00:24:46,817 --> 00:24:47,336 Siren: Everybody. 755 00:24:47,336 --> 00:24:48,297 Siren: No. No peeking. 756 00:24:48,297 --> 00:24:49,096 Siren: Close your eyes. 757 00:24:48,896 --> 00:24:49,656 Wendy: No peeking. 758 00:24:49,616 --> 00:24:52,576 Siren: And if if you if you like. 759 00:24:54,017 --> 00:24:58,576 Siren: If you like balls in a in. 760 00:24:58,576 --> 00:25:01,297 Wendy: A in. 761 00:25:01,297 --> 00:25:01,696 Wendy: In. 762 00:25:01,497 --> 00:25:02,297 Wendy: The chat. 763 00:25:02,457 --> 00:25:03,696 Siren: In that sort of sense. 764 00:25:03,696 --> 00:25:05,096 Siren: Put a check mark in the chat. 765 00:25:05,136 --> 00:25:06,977 Wendy: Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. 766 00:25:07,057 --> 00:25:08,376 Siren: And we're not going to say the name. 767 00:25:08,376 --> 00:25:09,376 Siren: We're not going to say the name. 768 00:25:09,376 --> 00:25:11,336 Siren: I'm just going to count how many check marks come up. 769 00:25:11,856 --> 00:25:14,017 Wendy: Yeah. Just who likes it. 770 00:25:14,656 --> 00:25:15,576 Wendy: I got one. 771 00:25:15,856 --> 00:25:18,017 Siren: I got one I got one over here. 772 00:25:17,817 --> 00:25:18,936 Wendy: Yeah one. 773 00:25:20,146 --> 00:25:21,507 Wendy: Okay, okay. 774 00:25:21,507 --> 00:25:22,707 Wendy: We got one, two. 775 00:25:22,547 --> 00:25:24,386 Siren: You got one over there. 776 00:25:24,386 --> 00:25:25,946 Siren: Maybe that's why we're lesbians. 777 00:25:26,267 --> 00:25:26,826 Wendy: From. 778 00:25:26,626 --> 00:25:27,386 Wendy: Time to time. 779 00:25:27,386 --> 00:25:29,787 Wendy: You got some explaining to do later. 780 00:25:29,586 --> 00:25:31,707 Siren: But maybe that's why we're lesbians. 781 00:25:31,707 --> 00:25:32,186 Siren: Maybe. 782 00:25:32,186 --> 00:25:33,666 Siren: I got two over here. 783 00:25:33,666 --> 00:25:35,106 Siren: I got another one over here. 784 00:25:35,106 --> 00:25:37,747 Siren: Okay, we can't find the. 785 00:25:37,747 --> 00:25:38,186 Siren: Okay, fine. 786 00:25:38,186 --> 00:25:38,626 Siren: Okay, fine. 787 00:25:38,626 --> 00:25:39,067 Siren: Okay, fine. 788 00:25:39,067 --> 00:25:39,467 Siren: Okay, fine. 789 00:25:39,467 --> 00:25:39,946 Siren: Okay, fine. 790 00:25:39,946 --> 00:25:40,386 Siren: Okay, fine. 791 00:25:40,386 --> 00:25:43,106 Siren: Okay, fine I this is why I'm a lesbian. 792 00:25:43,106 --> 00:25:44,106 Siren: This is why I'm a lesbian. 793 00:25:44,106 --> 00:25:45,467 Siren: This is why I'm a lesbian. 794 00:25:46,346 --> 00:25:47,946 Wendy: You're gonna have some explaining to do. 795 00:25:47,946 --> 00:25:48,346 Wendy: Okay? 796 00:25:48,346 --> 00:25:49,826 Wendy: V, get out of here. 797 00:25:49,866 --> 00:25:53,106 Siren: Okay, so I'm gayer than I thought I was. 798 00:25:53,106 --> 00:25:54,606 Siren: love this for me. 799 00:25:56,962 --> 00:25:57,843 Wendy: Okay, so. 800 00:25:57,843 --> 00:25:59,222 Wendy: Now it's my turn to ask you. 801 00:25:59,022 --> 00:25:59,462 Wendy: A question. 802 00:25:59,462 --> 00:25:59,942 Wendy: Yes. 803 00:25:59,782 --> 00:26:00,982 Wendy: Wrong. Question two. 804 00:26:00,982 --> 00:26:02,262 Wendy: Question two. 805 00:26:02,262 --> 00:26:08,623 Wendy: You know how, like, if you're aroused, you're entranced. 806 00:26:08,623 --> 00:26:10,303 Wendy: You're engorged. 807 00:26:10,303 --> 00:26:14,623 Wendy: Your fucking body's on fire when it comes to someone. 808 00:26:14,623 --> 00:26:18,383 Wendy: Or you could just look at a picture or you have a thought. 809 00:26:18,383 --> 00:26:20,222 Wendy: Does your cooter ever tingle? 810 00:26:21,222 --> 00:26:22,423 Siren: Oh, yes. 811 00:26:22,863 --> 00:26:23,823 Wendy: Does she? 812 00:26:23,782 --> 00:26:25,982 Siren: Oh my God, yes. 813 00:26:26,462 --> 00:26:27,502 Wendy: Oh my gosh. 814 00:26:27,502 --> 00:26:28,863 Wendy: Isn't that the best thing ever? 815 00:26:28,863 --> 00:26:29,982 Wendy: How do you feel about that? 816 00:26:29,823 --> 00:26:31,022 Siren: Oh it's amazing. 817 00:26:31,022 --> 00:26:32,143 Siren: It's amazing. 818 00:26:32,942 --> 00:26:33,982 Wendy: Shimmy purring. 819 00:26:33,782 --> 00:26:37,843 Siren: Yeah. And I think at first, like the crazy part, when I was 820 00:26:37,843 --> 00:26:39,522 Siren: healing because I like. 821 00:26:39,522 --> 00:26:40,722 Siren: I've had my bottom surgery, 822 00:26:40,722 --> 00:26:41,722 Siren: which means I was assigned male 823 00:26:41,722 --> 00:26:42,083 Siren: at birth. 824 00:26:42,083 --> 00:26:43,482 Siren: I had the dangly bits, but I 825 00:26:43,482 --> 00:26:44,762 Siren: don't have any dangly bits 826 00:26:44,762 --> 00:26:45,482 Siren: anymore. 827 00:26:45,843 --> 00:26:47,682 Wendy: They anymore. 828 00:26:47,563 --> 00:26:48,042 Wendy: They. 829 00:26:47,883 --> 00:26:50,722 Siren: Changed it all around so that there's no more dangly bits. 830 00:26:50,722 --> 00:26:53,242 Siren: And it looks like it not. 831 00:26:53,242 --> 00:26:54,522 Siren: It just looks like it is. 832 00:26:54,522 --> 00:26:54,843 Siren: It's. 833 00:26:54,843 --> 00:26:56,242 Siren: It's beautiful. 834 00:26:56,242 --> 00:26:58,042 Siren: Beautiful, pristine vulva. 835 00:26:58,042 --> 00:27:00,222 Siren: when she was healing, when the 836 00:27:00,222 --> 00:27:02,103 Siren: nerves were kind of reconnecting 837 00:27:02,103 --> 00:27:04,182 Siren: in that whole area, this was 838 00:27:04,182 --> 00:27:05,482 Siren: even like beyond moments of, 839 00:27:05,482 --> 00:27:06,182 Siren: being aroused. 840 00:27:06,182 --> 00:27:08,063 Siren: This was just literally the 841 00:27:08,063 --> 00:27:10,982 Siren: muscles would twitch and things 842 00:27:10,982 --> 00:27:11,383 Siren: like that. 843 00:27:11,383 --> 00:27:12,702 Siren: And I'm just like, sitting here 844 00:27:12,702 --> 00:27:13,742 Siren: and like, the muscle would just 845 00:27:13,742 --> 00:27:15,222 Siren: go like, I'm like, what are you 846 00:27:15,222 --> 00:27:16,143 Siren: doing? 847 00:27:16,143 --> 00:27:17,423 Siren: What are you doing? 848 00:27:17,742 --> 00:27:19,262 Wendy: She's fucking raring. 849 00:27:19,063 --> 00:27:19,583 Wendy: Up. 850 00:27:19,423 --> 00:27:21,383 Siren: I guess. 851 00:27:21,383 --> 00:27:25,202 Siren: Um, and like, no, you can, like, you can tell like, when I'm 852 00:27:25,202 --> 00:27:29,702 Siren: even, like by by feeling my partner can tell by touching. 853 00:27:29,702 --> 00:27:31,163 Siren: That I am aroused, that I am 854 00:27:31,163 --> 00:27:33,083 Siren: like, that my body is aroused by 855 00:27:33,083 --> 00:27:34,782 Siren: by touch, by feel of how they 856 00:27:34,782 --> 00:27:35,702 Siren: did it. 857 00:27:35,702 --> 00:27:37,542 Siren: So that's that's kind of cool. 858 00:27:37,542 --> 00:27:38,182 Siren: That's a good. 859 00:27:38,032 --> 00:27:38,553 Wendy: Question. 860 00:27:38,553 --> 00:27:39,833 Wendy: Can't be tingling. 861 00:27:39,833 --> 00:27:41,032 Wendy: Like, do you feel feral? 862 00:27:41,032 --> 00:27:42,633 Wendy: Because I'll be, like, feral as 863 00:27:42,633 --> 00:27:44,992 Wendy: fuck over like the smallest 864 00:27:44,992 --> 00:27:46,313 Wendy: shit. 865 00:27:46,313 --> 00:27:50,692 Wendy: A picture, a thought, like you looking jacked up with your 866 00:27:50,692 --> 00:27:55,472 Wendy: fucking hair a mess and your fucking bummy clothes and, like, 867 00:27:55,472 --> 00:27:58,673 Wendy: whatever, I'm gonna we're gonna. 868 00:27:58,673 --> 00:28:02,553 Wendy: Shit's gonna happen in person. 869 00:28:02,353 --> 00:28:06,153 Siren: Yes. It doesn't usually happen with a picture. 870 00:28:06,232 --> 00:28:07,673 Wendy: Have to be in person. 871 00:28:07,673 --> 00:28:10,833 Wendy: Like it will legit happen if we're separate. 872 00:28:10,952 --> 00:28:11,752 Siren: Yeah. 873 00:28:12,472 --> 00:28:14,232 Wendy: And something is said or we're 874 00:28:14,232 --> 00:28:15,772 Wendy: FaceTiming or we're on the phone 875 00:28:15,772 --> 00:28:17,073 Wendy: or there's a picture sent that's 876 00:28:17,073 --> 00:28:19,153 Wendy: just the person, not even a 877 00:28:19,153 --> 00:28:20,272 Wendy: spicy picture. 878 00:28:20,553 --> 00:28:21,192 Wendy: Mhm. 879 00:28:21,553 --> 00:28:24,252 Siren: She purrs I've, I've had um, 880 00:28:24,252 --> 00:28:25,692 Siren: this was even before I had 881 00:28:25,692 --> 00:28:26,093 Siren: surgery. 882 00:28:26,093 --> 00:28:26,952 Siren: This was the first time I 883 00:28:26,952 --> 00:28:30,133 Siren: noticed a difference in how my 884 00:28:30,133 --> 00:28:33,032 Siren: brain and body reacted to being 885 00:28:33,032 --> 00:28:33,452 Siren: aroused. 886 00:28:33,452 --> 00:28:35,653 Siren: Just on hormones like body. 887 00:28:35,653 --> 00:28:36,613 Siren: Exactly the same. 888 00:28:36,613 --> 00:28:38,113 Siren: it was the first time I went out with a boy. 889 00:28:38,113 --> 00:28:40,673 Siren: The first time I went out with, like, a I was a trans guy. 890 00:28:40,673 --> 00:28:41,573 Siren: we went on a first date. 891 00:28:41,573 --> 00:28:42,093 Siren: It was cute. 892 00:28:42,093 --> 00:28:43,012 Siren: We didn't do anything. 893 00:28:43,012 --> 00:28:43,932 Siren: We didn't even kiss or anything. 894 00:28:43,932 --> 00:28:44,893 Siren: It was just a cute date. 895 00:28:44,893 --> 00:28:48,813 Siren: And then the second date, we went on a hike. 896 00:28:48,813 --> 00:28:51,492 Siren: And after the hike, we were chatting. 897 00:28:51,492 --> 00:28:53,212 Siren: This was the cutest moment ever. 898 00:28:53,212 --> 00:28:55,113 Siren: I'm leaning up against his Subaru. 899 00:28:55,113 --> 00:28:59,173 Siren: because he used to be, married to a woman, before he came out, 900 00:28:59,173 --> 00:29:03,133 Siren: so obviously owned a Subaru, as we've previously discussed or 901 00:29:03,133 --> 00:29:07,363 Siren: discussed Anyway, um, so I'm leaning up against a Subaru, And 902 00:29:07,363 --> 00:29:09,722 Siren: he's doing the thing where he's like talking to me, but he's 903 00:29:09,722 --> 00:29:12,623 Siren: like starting on one side and then, like, moves slowly around 904 00:29:12,623 --> 00:29:13,442 Siren: to like the other side. 905 00:29:13,442 --> 00:29:15,762 Siren: It takes like it takes a solid, like forty five seconds, right? 906 00:29:15,762 --> 00:29:17,722 Siren: To get from one side of me to 907 00:29:17,722 --> 00:29:18,643 Siren: the other side, like through the 908 00:29:18,643 --> 00:29:19,163 Siren: conversation. 909 00:29:19,163 --> 00:29:21,682 Siren: It makes sense, like in the flow and the banter, like moving 910 00:29:21,682 --> 00:29:23,323 Siren: around and taking steps. 911 00:29:23,323 --> 00:29:26,202 Siren: But I can, I can tell because I've been on that side. 912 00:29:26,202 --> 00:29:29,163 Siren: I can tell that he wants to, come in and kiss me And I'm 913 00:29:29,163 --> 00:29:31,303 Siren: like, three laps around, I'm like, I feel like there's 914 00:29:31,303 --> 00:29:32,182 Siren: something on your mind. 915 00:29:32,182 --> 00:29:34,423 Siren: Is there something that you want to do right now? 916 00:29:34,423 --> 00:29:38,863 Siren: Um, and eventually I had my first. 917 00:29:38,863 --> 00:29:41,982 Siren: The first time I kissed a boy was that was in that moment. 918 00:29:41,982 --> 00:29:43,863 Siren: That was like what I talked about in that poem. 919 00:29:43,863 --> 00:29:46,942 Siren: Like the first time I kissed a boy felt like fireworks began. 920 00:29:46,942 --> 00:29:52,383 Siren: And the craziest part about it wasn't even the moment. 921 00:29:52,383 --> 00:29:53,742 Siren: I mean, I felt it like I felt 922 00:29:53,742 --> 00:29:55,182 Siren: like I felt like the kind of 923 00:29:55,182 --> 00:29:56,403 Siren: start, like kind of a core, like 924 00:29:56,403 --> 00:29:59,212 Siren: sacral chakra area, which is not 925 00:29:59,212 --> 00:30:01,432 Siren: where that usually started for 926 00:30:01,432 --> 00:30:01,833 Siren: me. 927 00:30:01,833 --> 00:30:05,932 Siren: but the crazy part it was an 928 00:30:05,932 --> 00:30:07,833 Siren: hour and a half later, after he 929 00:30:07,833 --> 00:30:08,972 Siren: had left to go do something 930 00:30:08,972 --> 00:30:10,333 Siren: else, and I go to the grocery 931 00:30:10,333 --> 00:30:11,093 Siren: store to do some grocery 932 00:30:11,093 --> 00:30:11,573 Siren: shopping. 933 00:30:11,573 --> 00:30:15,573 Siren: I remember this moment, and I swear to God, Wendy, if I was 934 00:30:15,573 --> 00:30:19,333 Siren: not holding on to a grocery cart, I would have hit the 935 00:30:19,333 --> 00:30:23,972 Siren: fucking ground because my legs gave out from under me. 936 00:30:23,972 --> 00:30:24,292 Siren: Like. 937 00:30:24,292 --> 00:30:26,772 Siren: Like I had never felt anything like that before. 938 00:30:26,772 --> 00:30:28,813 Siren: Like my legs were gone. 939 00:30:28,972 --> 00:30:30,853 Wendy: That's the power of the pussy, baby. 940 00:30:30,653 --> 00:30:31,492 Wendy: Let's go. 941 00:30:31,333 --> 00:30:32,653 Siren: I know, but it's. 942 00:30:32,653 --> 00:30:33,492 Siren: It's hormones. 943 00:30:33,492 --> 00:30:34,292 Siren: It's crazy. 944 00:30:34,292 --> 00:30:35,573 Siren: It's like it's freaking. 945 00:30:35,573 --> 00:30:37,012 Siren: It's so crazy. 946 00:30:37,012 --> 00:30:37,893 Siren: And, like, that's something we 947 00:30:37,893 --> 00:30:39,032 Siren: can get into another time, too, 948 00:30:39,032 --> 00:30:42,972 Siren: is how much like, truly, your 949 00:30:42,972 --> 00:30:45,492 Siren: experience of being a woman is 950 00:30:45,492 --> 00:30:47,012 Siren: about the hormones that are in 951 00:30:47,012 --> 00:30:48,093 Siren: your body? 952 00:30:48,413 --> 00:30:48,972 Wendy: Yeah. 953 00:30:48,813 --> 00:30:50,853 Siren: More than the body parts you were born with. 954 00:30:51,053 --> 00:30:54,053 Wendy: just for for funsies. 955 00:30:54,053 --> 00:30:57,093 Wendy: Did you, you rather orgasm with your new. 956 00:30:56,932 --> 00:30:58,012 Siren: Oh my God. Fuck, yeah. 957 00:30:58,012 --> 00:30:58,893 Siren: Oh my God. 958 00:30:58,893 --> 00:30:59,413 Siren: Yes. 959 00:30:59,413 --> 00:31:01,333 Siren: So many thousand million. 960 00:31:01,333 --> 00:31:03,532 Siren: Two like I can't even. 961 00:31:03,532 --> 00:31:05,653 Siren: They're not on same. 962 00:31:05,653 --> 00:31:07,492 Siren: They're playing different games. 963 00:31:07,492 --> 00:31:09,053 Siren: They're different games. 964 00:31:08,893 --> 00:31:10,373 Wendy: They're on different books. 965 00:31:10,492 --> 00:31:13,932 Siren: Well again it's like it's less the body part and it's more the 966 00:31:13,932 --> 00:31:17,452 Siren: hormones because it was before the body part change. 967 00:31:17,452 --> 00:31:20,073 Siren: that it like, started feeling 968 00:31:20,073 --> 00:31:25,843 Siren: different and an orgasm With T 969 00:31:25,843 --> 00:31:27,143 Siren: as your primary hormone It's 970 00:31:27,143 --> 00:31:32,423 Siren: very like trumpet loud all at 971 00:31:32,423 --> 00:31:33,182 Siren: once. 972 00:31:33,182 --> 00:31:35,363 Siren: Like like we're gonna like, 973 00:31:35,363 --> 00:31:36,702 Siren: everything is all at once and 974 00:31:36,702 --> 00:31:37,823 Siren: it's done. 975 00:31:37,823 --> 00:31:38,782 Siren: Okay. 976 00:31:38,782 --> 00:31:43,942 Siren: you can kind of feel the trumpet like gathering their things 977 00:31:43,942 --> 00:31:46,103 Siren: together, like to, to start. 978 00:31:46,103 --> 00:31:48,782 Siren: But once it starts, it's going to be fucking loud and quick and 979 00:31:48,782 --> 00:31:49,782 Siren: then it's going to be done. 980 00:31:49,782 --> 00:31:50,803 Siren: and it's great. 981 00:31:50,803 --> 00:31:51,563 Siren: Right? 982 00:31:54,002 --> 00:31:54,682 Wendy: Yeah. 983 00:31:54,522 --> 00:31:57,563 Siren: But it's like a fucking. 984 00:31:57,563 --> 00:31:59,002 Siren: It's like an orchestra, baby. 985 00:31:59,002 --> 00:31:59,563 Siren: It's like. 986 00:31:59,563 --> 00:32:01,603 Siren: Like the antithesis is like. 987 00:32:01,603 --> 00:32:02,762 Siren: It's like you can hear the 988 00:32:02,762 --> 00:32:04,522 Siren: string section warming up and 989 00:32:04,522 --> 00:32:06,022 Siren: you move into, like the next, 990 00:32:06,022 --> 00:32:08,163 Siren: like fucking axe and modes of 991 00:32:08,163 --> 00:32:09,762 Siren: this song as things rise and 992 00:32:09,762 --> 00:32:11,663 Siren: fall and those moments of pause 993 00:32:11,663 --> 00:32:12,173 Siren: and break. 994 00:32:12,173 --> 00:32:13,772 Siren: I swear to fucking God. 995 00:32:13,772 --> 00:32:17,553 Siren: Do you have any idea how much hotter it is when you break for, 996 00:32:17,553 --> 00:32:19,373 Siren: like, five minutes? 997 00:32:19,373 --> 00:32:21,133 Siren: Do you just take a five minute break? 998 00:32:21,133 --> 00:32:23,452 Siren: Get a drink of water and then just jump back into it? 999 00:32:23,452 --> 00:32:24,813 Siren: Holy shit. 1000 00:32:24,813 --> 00:32:25,333 Siren: Guys. 1001 00:32:25,333 --> 00:32:26,613 Siren: Like it's an anthology. 1002 00:32:26,613 --> 00:32:27,653 Siren: A beautiful anthology. 1003 00:32:27,653 --> 00:32:28,573 Siren: Exactly. 1004 00:32:28,573 --> 00:32:29,772 Siren: Oh my God. 1005 00:32:29,772 --> 00:32:30,853 Siren: And it lasts like. 1006 00:32:30,853 --> 00:32:34,413 Siren: Yes, there's like, there is one climactic moment. 1007 00:32:34,413 --> 00:32:34,692 Siren: Right? 1008 00:32:34,692 --> 00:32:38,772 Siren: But it's it's every moment 1009 00:32:38,772 --> 00:32:40,813 Siren: before and every moment after 1010 00:32:40,813 --> 00:32:42,813 Siren: that is like, oh, my God, it's 1011 00:32:42,813 --> 00:32:43,772 Siren: so hot. 1012 00:32:43,573 --> 00:32:44,813 Wendy: Also, don't touch me because I 1013 00:32:44,813 --> 00:32:46,653 Wendy: might fucking jump out of my 1014 00:32:46,653 --> 00:32:48,532 Wendy: goddamn skin. 1015 00:32:48,532 --> 00:32:49,373 Wendy: Stop it! 1016 00:32:49,373 --> 00:32:50,373 Wendy: Don't touch me. 1017 00:32:50,373 --> 00:32:52,532 Wendy: Just pause where you're at. 1018 00:32:52,532 --> 00:32:53,893 Wendy: Don't fucking move. 1019 00:32:53,893 --> 00:32:54,893 Wendy: Just let me. 1020 00:32:56,212 --> 00:32:56,613 Wendy: Okay. 1021 00:32:56,613 --> 00:32:57,492 Wendy: That was a good one. 1022 00:32:57,333 --> 00:32:58,333 Speaker 6: That was a good one. 1023 00:32:58,932 --> 00:33:00,333 Siren: Wendy's getting a little feral. 1024 00:33:00,333 --> 00:33:01,053 Siren: Guys. 1025 00:33:03,532 --> 00:33:04,653 Wendy: I'm always Pharrell. 1026 00:33:06,949 --> 00:33:08,429 Siren: Do you want one more question? 1027 00:33:08,269 --> 00:33:09,189 Wendy: One more question. 1028 00:33:09,028 --> 00:33:09,388 Wendy: Okay. 1029 00:33:09,189 --> 00:33:11,808 Siren: Yeah. Yeah. the biggest difference to make note of 1030 00:33:11,808 --> 00:33:16,828 Siren: Wendy, you've been in like lesbian culture for how long? 1031 00:33:17,148 --> 00:33:19,348 Wendy: Twenty three years. 1032 00:33:19,189 --> 00:33:19,909 Siren: Twenty three years. 1033 00:33:19,909 --> 00:33:21,189 Siren: So and I've been a part of it 1034 00:33:21,189 --> 00:33:23,729 Siren: for four years, barely I say, 1035 00:33:23,729 --> 00:33:25,368 Siren: barely, because for the first 1036 00:33:25,368 --> 00:33:26,769 Siren: couple years, I wasn't putting 1037 00:33:26,769 --> 00:33:28,848 Siren: myself anywhere out in the 1038 00:33:28,848 --> 00:33:29,088 Siren: world. 1039 00:33:29,088 --> 00:33:31,489 Siren: Not that I wasn't accepted, I just I wasn't like. 1040 00:33:31,328 --> 00:33:31,888 Wendy: Just trying. 1041 00:33:31,689 --> 00:33:32,368 Wendy: To figure it. 1042 00:33:32,169 --> 00:33:32,568 Wendy: Out. 1043 00:33:32,528 --> 00:33:34,449 Siren: Trying to figure out who the fuck I was. 1044 00:33:34,449 --> 00:33:35,128 Siren: You know. 1045 00:33:35,249 --> 00:33:35,929 Wendy: It's hard. 1046 00:33:36,209 --> 00:33:37,568 Wendy: Yeah, absolutely. 1047 00:33:37,848 --> 00:33:39,489 Siren: Okay, so, the L word. 1048 00:33:39,489 --> 00:33:41,288 Siren: I'm assuming you've seen the L word, right? 1049 00:33:41,689 --> 00:33:42,848 Wendy: Yes. Okay. 1050 00:33:42,689 --> 00:33:46,138 Siren: Who do you most identify with on the L word, and who do you most 1051 00:33:46,138 --> 00:33:47,179 Siren: identify with on the L word? 1052 00:33:47,179 --> 00:33:49,058 Siren: And then who would you fuck on the L word? 1053 00:33:49,058 --> 00:33:50,239 Siren: I would say fuck, marry, kill, 1054 00:33:50,078 --> 00:33:52,159 Wendy: Oh, yes. Fuck. Marry. Kill. Please. 1055 00:33:51,999 --> 00:33:52,519 Wendy: Fuck. Marry. 1056 00:33:52,519 --> 00:33:53,038 Wendy: Kill. 1057 00:33:52,878 --> 00:33:54,239 Siren: Fuck. Marry. Kill. On, uh. 1058 00:33:54,239 --> 00:33:55,118 Siren: On the l word. 1059 00:33:55,118 --> 00:33:55,878 Siren: Go for it. 1060 00:33:56,519 --> 00:33:57,719 Wendy: Kill. Jenny. 1061 00:33:57,919 --> 00:33:58,719 Siren: Jenny! 1062 00:33:59,038 --> 00:34:00,358 Wendy: Goodbye, bitch. 1063 00:34:00,358 --> 00:34:01,519 Wendy: Uh, bye. 1064 00:34:01,679 --> 00:34:03,118 Siren: I loved season one. 1065 00:34:03,118 --> 00:34:03,679 Siren: Jenny. 1066 00:34:03,679 --> 00:34:04,878 Siren: For a little bit. 1067 00:34:05,159 --> 00:34:07,398 Wendy: A little bit like a fucking 20s. 1068 00:34:07,398 --> 00:34:08,798 Wendy: And then that bitch was gone. 1069 00:34:08,798 --> 00:34:10,079 Wendy: Canceled. 1070 00:34:10,079 --> 00:34:11,958 Wendy: Uh, fuck. 1071 00:34:11,958 --> 00:34:13,599 Wendy: Carmen. 1072 00:34:13,599 --> 00:34:15,478 Wendy: Carmen. 1073 00:34:15,478 --> 00:34:16,438 Wendy: Mary. 1074 00:34:16,438 --> 00:34:17,798 Wendy: Bet. 1075 00:34:17,798 --> 00:34:19,478 Wendy: Bet. 1076 00:34:19,478 --> 00:34:20,918 Wendy: Oh, my fucking God! 1077 00:34:20,918 --> 00:34:21,398 Wendy: Jennifer. 1078 00:34:21,398 --> 00:34:21,838 Wendy: Beals. 1079 00:34:21,838 --> 00:34:26,398 Wendy: Holy shit, Holy shit, Holy shit. 1080 00:34:26,398 --> 00:34:27,159 Wendy: Yes. 1081 00:34:27,838 --> 00:34:29,478 Siren: When did you watch the L word? 1082 00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:32,159 Wendy: Uh, right when it came out. 1083 00:34:32,478 --> 00:34:33,599 Wendy: Locked in. 1084 00:34:33,438 --> 00:34:36,559 Siren: Like, two years ago, two and a half years ago is when I watched 1085 00:34:36,559 --> 00:34:37,728 Siren: it, and I was like, Holy shit. 1086 00:34:37,728 --> 00:34:40,289 Siren: Like, if I watch this, if I had watched this ten years ago, I 1087 00:34:40,289 --> 00:34:41,369 Siren: would have known then. 1088 00:34:41,369 --> 00:34:42,648 Siren: Moving on. 1089 00:34:42,648 --> 00:34:44,168 Siren: Wendy, what's your question? 1090 00:34:45,449 --> 00:34:49,548 Wendy: I'm mostly stemming on like your transition, if that's okay. 1091 00:34:49,389 --> 00:34:50,389 Siren: That's totally fine. 1092 00:34:50,188 --> 00:34:54,489 Wendy: do you ever regret your transitioning because of how 1093 00:34:54,489 --> 00:34:58,528 Wendy: fucking hateful everyone is in in the world? 1094 00:34:58,528 --> 00:34:59,889 Wendy: Do you ever, like, regret it? 1095 00:34:59,889 --> 00:35:02,528 Wendy: Because I'm sure things could be a lot easier if you were just a 1096 00:35:02,528 --> 00:35:04,289 Wendy: regular cis man. 1097 00:35:04,289 --> 00:35:05,409 Wendy: You know what I mean? 1098 00:35:05,409 --> 00:35:10,088 Wendy: Like, it's it's took a lot of bravery and heart and, like, you 1099 00:35:10,088 --> 00:35:15,409 Wendy: have to deal with a lot of adversaries, like coming out and 1100 00:35:15,409 --> 00:35:18,659 Wendy: being your like, true self. 1101 00:35:18,659 --> 00:35:21,418 Wendy: Has there ever been a point in time where you're like, I should 1102 00:35:21,418 --> 00:35:24,699 Wendy: not have fucking done this because I feel sad? 1103 00:35:24,498 --> 00:35:27,699 Siren: A great question, Wendy. And I don't take it lightly, because I 1104 00:35:27,699 --> 00:35:31,139 Siren: think there were definitely moments Especially earlier on 1105 00:35:31,139 --> 00:35:37,619 Siren: when I was in, like, the really deep despair of losing my ex. 1106 00:35:38,418 --> 00:35:39,059 Wendy: Yeah. 1107 00:35:39,458 --> 00:35:42,139 Siren: That I wish this had never 1108 00:35:42,139 --> 00:35:43,338 Siren: happened to me or I wish I 1109 00:35:43,338 --> 00:35:44,818 Siren: hadn't made the decision, but as 1110 00:35:44,818 --> 00:35:46,619 Siren: soon as I spoke it out loud, as 1111 00:35:46,619 --> 00:35:47,699 Siren: soon as I would say something 1112 00:35:47,699 --> 00:35:48,898 Siren: like that. 1113 00:35:48,898 --> 00:35:50,958 Siren: Yeah, it would instantly like my 1114 00:35:50,958 --> 00:35:51,858 Siren: brain would be like, what the 1115 00:35:51,858 --> 00:35:52,478 Siren: fuck? 1116 00:35:52,478 --> 00:35:53,278 Siren: Like, are you serious? 1117 00:35:53,278 --> 00:35:56,559 Siren: Like, like listing off all of the other things of, like. 1118 00:35:56,559 --> 00:35:57,818 Siren: how much worse it would be if I 1119 00:35:57,818 --> 00:35:59,018 Siren: had done like gone back the 1120 00:35:59,018 --> 00:35:59,938 Siren: other way, but like, honestly at 1121 00:35:59,938 --> 00:36:01,278 Siren: this point, like how if I'd even 1122 00:36:01,278 --> 00:36:02,139 Siren: be alive? 1123 00:36:02,699 --> 00:36:03,298 Wendy: Yeah. 1124 00:36:03,298 --> 00:36:04,518 Siren: because I'll tell you what. 1125 00:36:04,518 --> 00:36:07,079 Siren: Like the hardest thing. 1126 00:36:09,478 --> 00:36:10,358 Siren: When I was, when I was a 1127 00:36:10,358 --> 00:36:11,298 Siren: Christian, when I was doing, 1128 00:36:11,298 --> 00:36:12,159 Siren: when I was going to church all 1129 00:36:12,159 --> 00:36:14,318 Siren: the time and like, um, like 1130 00:36:14,318 --> 00:36:17,438 Siren: doing the youth pastor thing, it 1131 00:36:17,438 --> 00:36:19,918 Siren: was easy to hide this version of 1132 00:36:19,918 --> 00:36:21,039 Siren: me because I wasn't trying to be 1133 00:36:21,039 --> 00:36:21,518 Siren: myself. 1134 00:36:21,518 --> 00:36:23,199 Siren: I was trying to be what they wanted me to be. 1135 00:36:23,478 --> 00:36:24,119 Wendy: Yeah. 1136 00:36:24,199 --> 00:36:28,099 Siren: So as soon as I let go of that and started trying to be me and 1137 00:36:28,099 --> 00:36:32,398 Siren: started uncovering all the the pages and all the gunk that had 1138 00:36:32,398 --> 00:36:35,498 Siren: piled up over this truth. 1139 00:36:35,498 --> 00:36:36,579 Siren: once I started pulling that 1140 00:36:36,579 --> 00:36:39,139 Siren: away, I couldn't get away from 1141 00:36:39,139 --> 00:36:39,619 Siren: this. 1142 00:36:39,619 --> 00:36:41,278 Siren: there was no hiding it again. 1143 00:36:41,079 --> 00:36:43,168 Wendy: You couldn't imagine going back to that? 1144 00:36:43,248 --> 00:36:45,929 Siren: No. I would have to go back to so much like to be able to cover 1145 00:36:45,929 --> 00:36:48,289 Siren: it up effectively would be. 1146 00:36:50,929 --> 00:36:52,489 Siren: I wouldn't be able to do it. 1147 00:36:52,489 --> 00:36:53,449 Siren: I wouldn't be able to do it. 1148 00:36:53,449 --> 00:36:57,548 Siren: So even if I wanted to, like, my brain wouldn't, there's no way 1149 00:36:57,548 --> 00:36:59,168 Siren: my brain would allow me to. 1150 00:36:59,168 --> 00:37:03,289 Siren: and I would circle into, like, a fucking despair. 1151 00:37:03,289 --> 00:37:04,489 Siren: Like it would be awful. 1152 00:37:04,929 --> 00:37:05,528 Wendy: Yeah. 1153 00:37:05,728 --> 00:37:08,248 Siren: Have you ever seen, the movie? 1154 00:37:08,248 --> 00:37:09,608 Siren: I saw the TV glow. 1155 00:37:11,648 --> 00:37:12,128 Siren: I'd be seeing. 1156 00:37:12,128 --> 00:37:13,608 Siren: I saw the TV glow. 1157 00:37:13,608 --> 00:37:15,329 Siren: Uh, you need to watch that. 1158 00:37:15,329 --> 00:37:16,608 Siren: it's a horror movie. 1159 00:37:16,608 --> 00:37:17,608 Siren: I say that loosely. 1160 00:37:17,608 --> 00:37:21,829 Siren: They have it categorized as that, but it is a allegory of, 1161 00:37:21,829 --> 00:37:27,088 Siren: the experience of being trans. this main character who. 1162 00:37:27,088 --> 00:37:32,289 Siren: Lives her whole life with seeing it and like, never allowing it 1163 00:37:32,289 --> 00:37:36,188 Siren: to be, like, reconciled or unburied and like, just like 1164 00:37:36,188 --> 00:37:39,889 Siren: this incredibly deep emotional representation of how that 1165 00:37:39,889 --> 00:37:42,128 Siren: feels, especially at the end. 1166 00:37:42,128 --> 00:37:42,768 Siren: Yeah. 1167 00:37:43,929 --> 00:37:44,489 Siren: Yeah. 1168 00:37:49,144 --> 00:37:53,844 Siren: segment number two, we want to do, Queerly controversial. 1169 00:37:53,844 --> 00:37:57,045 Siren: Let's get messy with love. 1170 00:37:57,045 --> 00:37:59,945 Siren: I love this, what do we want to talk about today? 1171 00:37:59,744 --> 00:38:01,025 Wendy: Do you have a topic? 1172 00:38:00,824 --> 00:38:02,065 Siren: Well, the original one was 1173 00:38:02,065 --> 00:38:03,545 Siren: Should queer people gatekeep 1174 00:38:03,545 --> 00:38:04,304 Siren: queer spaces? 1175 00:38:04,304 --> 00:38:05,385 Siren: More or less. 1176 00:38:06,144 --> 00:38:09,744 Wendy: Should queer people gatekeep queer spaces? 1177 00:38:09,744 --> 00:38:11,425 Wendy: More or less. 1178 00:38:11,425 --> 00:38:13,824 Wendy: See, I think this is like a double edged sword for me. 1179 00:38:13,824 --> 00:38:14,704 Wendy: You know what I mean? 1180 00:38:14,704 --> 00:38:16,425 Wendy: just because the fucking world 1181 00:38:16,425 --> 00:38:18,704 Wendy: is on fire, you know it's 1182 00:38:18,704 --> 00:38:20,485 Wendy: fucking twenty twenty five, 1183 00:38:20,485 --> 00:38:22,224 Wendy: almost twenty twenty six right 1184 00:38:22,224 --> 00:38:22,425 Wendy: now. 1185 00:38:22,425 --> 00:38:25,304 Wendy: The date is October second, twenty twenty five. 1186 00:38:25,304 --> 00:38:25,704 Wendy: Okay. 1187 00:38:25,704 --> 00:38:27,304 Wendy: Y'all know what's going on in the world. 1188 00:38:27,304 --> 00:38:29,925 Wendy: a big part of me, I'd say fifty 1189 00:38:29,925 --> 00:38:33,485 Wendy: or sixty percent says yes, and 1190 00:38:33,485 --> 00:38:36,885 Wendy: my yes is because I feel like I 1191 00:38:36,885 --> 00:38:38,324 Wendy: can't trust people that are not 1192 00:38:38,324 --> 00:38:39,565 Wendy: in the queer community to not 1193 00:38:39,565 --> 00:38:40,085 Wendy: hurt us. 1194 00:38:40,085 --> 00:38:42,324 Wendy: and that sucks to have to feel that way. 1195 00:38:42,324 --> 00:38:43,445 Wendy: You know what I mean? 1196 00:38:43,445 --> 00:38:46,525 Wendy: Because, if you want to come hang out in our fucking space 1197 00:38:46,525 --> 00:38:47,324 Wendy: I'm all for it. 1198 00:38:47,324 --> 00:38:51,574 Wendy: Like, get on over here, and let's paint the town gay. 1199 00:38:51,574 --> 00:38:55,014 Wendy: But a big part of me is like, I 1200 00:38:55,014 --> 00:38:56,614 Wendy: don't know if I can trust you 1201 00:38:56,614 --> 00:38:57,815 Wendy: because are you going to put me 1202 00:38:57,815 --> 00:38:58,215 Wendy: in danger? 1203 00:38:58,215 --> 00:39:00,494 Wendy: Are you going to put my friends in danger? 1204 00:39:00,494 --> 00:39:02,614 Wendy: And that is something that's really scary to me. 1205 00:39:02,614 --> 00:39:07,494 Wendy: But then another part of me is just like, I have six friends 1206 00:39:07,494 --> 00:39:11,454 Wendy: that are heterosexual that like, they love to hang out with the 1207 00:39:11,454 --> 00:39:14,894 Wendy: queer people and they have such a good time. 1208 00:39:14,894 --> 00:39:18,815 Wendy: So I think that's it's very much situational. 1209 00:39:18,934 --> 00:39:19,574 Siren: Yeah. 1210 00:39:19,735 --> 00:39:21,215 Wendy: It would depend on what we were doing. 1211 00:39:21,215 --> 00:39:22,255 Wendy: You know what we had planned, 1212 00:39:22,255 --> 00:39:23,074 Wendy: what we were doing, where we 1213 00:39:23,074 --> 00:39:23,655 Wendy: were going. 1214 00:39:23,655 --> 00:39:24,855 Wendy: And I might have to say hard. 1215 00:39:24,855 --> 00:39:25,375 Wendy: No. 1216 00:39:25,175 --> 00:39:25,775 Siren: Yeah. 1217 00:39:25,574 --> 00:39:26,614 Wendy: Yeah. It's tough. 1218 00:39:26,414 --> 00:39:27,094 Wendy: Outnumber us. 1219 00:39:27,094 --> 00:39:28,534 Wendy: It's really a hard no. 1220 00:39:29,014 --> 00:39:31,135 Siren: Right, exactly. And I mean, I've 1221 00:39:31,135 --> 00:39:33,175 Siren: been to I went to my first gay 1222 00:39:33,175 --> 00:39:34,735 Siren: bar recently. 1223 00:39:34,735 --> 00:39:35,775 Siren: like two summers ago. 1224 00:39:35,775 --> 00:39:39,054 Siren: I went to Woody's in Philadelphia. 1225 00:39:39,054 --> 00:39:41,025 Siren: Shout out Philly, shout out Woody's. 1226 00:39:41,304 --> 00:39:42,264 Wendy: Uh, Woody. 1227 00:39:42,465 --> 00:39:43,565 Siren: And 1228 00:39:43,804 --> 00:39:45,085 Wendy: They got the wood. 1229 00:39:45,565 --> 00:39:46,445 Siren: It was the first time I gone. 1230 00:39:46,445 --> 00:39:47,284 Siren: I went to a gay club. 1231 00:39:47,284 --> 00:39:50,885 Siren: It was the first time to a club in general for me since I was, 1232 00:39:50,885 --> 00:39:54,565 Siren: like, twenty years old, nineteen or twenty years old, and snuck 1233 00:39:54,565 --> 00:39:57,744 Siren: into the Iguana Cantina in Baltimore with my friends and 1234 00:39:57,744 --> 00:39:59,784 Siren: I'm now like thirty seven. 1235 00:39:59,784 --> 00:40:01,905 Siren: so it had been a minute. 1236 00:40:01,905 --> 00:40:06,105 Siren: And to go like what I had hoped to be more of like a safe haven 1237 00:40:06,105 --> 00:40:10,125 Siren: for queer people There were way more straight people there than 1238 00:40:10,125 --> 00:40:15,324 Siren: were there was any gay people like there was so many. 1239 00:40:15,324 --> 00:40:16,525 Siren: It was a tourist. 1240 00:40:16,525 --> 00:40:17,445 Siren: They were tourists. 1241 00:40:17,445 --> 00:40:20,724 Siren: It was crazy and like to the point where I'd be hanging out 1242 00:40:20,724 --> 00:40:23,844 Siren: with people and like, dancing with my friends or like meeting 1243 00:40:23,844 --> 00:40:24,525 Siren: new people there. 1244 00:40:24,525 --> 00:40:28,144 Siren: And there would be men walking up to women that were clearly 1245 00:40:28,144 --> 00:40:32,945 Siren: dancing together and like, not there for them and would like 1246 00:40:32,945 --> 00:40:35,764 Siren: introduce, like would interrupt their dancing and like hit on 1247 00:40:35,764 --> 00:40:36,284 Siren: them and stuff. 1248 00:40:36,284 --> 00:40:37,804 Siren: It was crazy. 1249 00:40:37,804 --> 00:40:42,905 Siren: so in spaces like that I want to say like, yeah, like gatekeeping 1250 00:40:42,905 --> 00:40:47,574 Siren: to an extent, but like, at what point at like to what point? 1251 00:40:47,574 --> 00:40:48,135 Siren: To what end? 1252 00:40:48,135 --> 00:40:49,175 Siren: I mean, we saw what happened in 1253 00:40:49,175 --> 00:40:50,655 Siren: Orlando and like all these other 1254 00:40:50,655 --> 00:40:52,295 Siren: places and like, you know, clubs 1255 00:40:52,295 --> 00:40:53,375 Siren: like that, like we want to be 1256 00:40:53,375 --> 00:40:53,934 Siren: careful. 1257 00:40:53,934 --> 00:40:56,974 Siren: So like, I see both edges. 1258 00:40:56,974 --> 00:40:58,534 Siren: I know that I feel less. 1259 00:40:58,335 --> 00:40:58,775 Wendy: Safe. 1260 00:40:58,574 --> 00:41:00,614 Siren: In some spaces than others. 1261 00:41:00,614 --> 00:41:01,335 Wendy: yeah. 1262 00:41:01,175 --> 00:41:04,974 Wendy: And that's the sucky thing about it, is that you can immediately 1263 00:41:04,974 --> 00:41:07,735 Wendy: go somewhere and tell you're not going to feel safe. 1264 00:41:07,735 --> 00:41:08,494 Wendy: You're going to be stared at. 1265 00:41:08,494 --> 00:41:11,375 Wendy: You're going to be judged, you know? 1266 00:41:11,375 --> 00:41:12,335 Wendy: You know, just like I told you 1267 00:41:12,335 --> 00:41:13,554 Wendy: about the concert I went to, 1268 00:41:13,554 --> 00:41:14,655 Wendy: that's not the first time that's 1269 00:41:14,655 --> 00:41:15,414 Wendy: happened. 1270 00:41:15,494 --> 00:41:16,054 Wendy: Yeah. 1271 00:41:15,894 --> 00:41:17,295 Wendy: You know. 1272 00:41:17,295 --> 00:41:18,835 Wendy: it was a couple years ago. 1273 00:41:18,835 --> 00:41:21,594 Wendy: I am from Indianapolis. 1274 00:41:21,594 --> 00:41:22,594 Wendy: I was at work. 1275 00:41:22,594 --> 00:41:25,244 Wendy: My job was at near the side of 1276 00:41:25,244 --> 00:41:26,445 Wendy: town that I was going to go to a 1277 00:41:26,445 --> 00:41:27,804 Wendy: concert to. 1278 00:41:27,804 --> 00:41:31,005 Wendy: So I. Went ahead and went to the concert and I was meeting my 1279 00:41:31,005 --> 00:41:32,164 Wendy: best friend there. 1280 00:41:32,164 --> 00:41:33,985 Wendy: could have been a country concert, I don't know. 1281 00:41:33,985 --> 00:41:37,105 Wendy: She she likes a lot of country music, so I'm just standing 1282 00:41:37,105 --> 00:41:38,304 Wendy: outside of the venue. 1283 00:41:38,304 --> 00:41:38,824 Wendy: Deer Creek. 1284 00:41:38,824 --> 00:41:40,824 Wendy: We call it Deer Creek, but it's not that anymore. 1285 00:41:40,824 --> 00:41:43,144 Wendy: But if you're from Indiana, you call it Deer Creek. 1286 00:41:43,144 --> 00:41:44,784 Wendy: And I'm standing there just 1287 00:41:44,784 --> 00:41:45,864 Wendy: waiting on my friend and by 1288 00:41:45,864 --> 00:41:46,985 Wendy: myself. 1289 00:41:46,985 --> 00:41:50,105 Wendy: And this cis white male walked 1290 00:41:50,105 --> 00:41:53,344 Wendy: up to me and said, uh, you look 1291 00:41:53,344 --> 00:41:54,545 Wendy: like you're a faggot, aren't 1292 00:41:54,545 --> 00:41:54,824 Wendy: you? 1293 00:41:54,824 --> 00:41:56,585 Wendy: I should I should beat your ass. 1294 00:41:56,585 --> 00:42:00,824 Wendy: And I was literally just standing there not saying 1295 00:42:00,824 --> 00:42:03,664 Wendy: anything, not doing anything, just waiting for my friend. 1296 00:42:03,664 --> 00:42:07,224 Wendy: And that's a situation where, I could have been hurt. 1297 00:42:07,224 --> 00:42:09,644 Wendy: you were so bold enough to come 1298 00:42:09,644 --> 00:42:11,210 Wendy: up to me and say that, it's 1299 00:42:11,210 --> 00:42:11,695 Wendy: crazy. 1300 00:42:11,695 --> 00:42:14,614 Wendy: that's not the first time that's happened that I've been called 1301 00:42:14,614 --> 00:42:18,454 Wendy: out my name or, like, threatened just because of the way I look. 1302 00:42:19,175 --> 00:42:20,614 Wendy: How long ago was this? 1303 00:42:21,135 --> 00:42:22,815 Wendy: This was just a couple. 1304 00:42:22,815 --> 00:42:23,894 Wendy: A couple years ago. 1305 00:42:23,894 --> 00:42:25,574 Wendy: Maybe three at the most. 1306 00:42:26,735 --> 00:42:27,375 Wendy: Yeah. 1307 00:42:27,735 --> 00:42:30,494 Siren: Yeah. I'm sorry. 1308 00:42:30,295 --> 00:42:30,894 Wendy: That happened. 1309 00:42:31,094 --> 00:42:33,494 Wendy: And it's just getting worse. 1310 00:42:33,494 --> 00:42:34,655 Wendy: I mean, you just had some shit 1311 00:42:34,655 --> 00:42:36,135 Wendy: happen to you like, fucking two 1312 00:42:36,135 --> 00:42:36,695 Wendy: weeks ago. 1313 00:42:36,695 --> 00:42:37,255 Wendy: You know what I mean? 1314 00:42:37,255 --> 00:42:38,695 Wendy: Like, this shit is crazy. 1315 00:42:39,054 --> 00:42:40,655 Siren: I should happen to me all the time. 1316 00:42:40,974 --> 00:42:42,135 Wendy: Um, yeah. 1317 00:42:41,974 --> 00:42:47,074 Wendy: I mean, the the amount of times that we go somewhere and you 1318 00:42:47,074 --> 00:42:48,934 Wendy: can't unsee the fact that I'm. 1319 00:42:48,934 --> 00:42:52,775 Wendy: I'm gay because I am a lesbian, and people just fucking stare at 1320 00:42:52,775 --> 00:42:54,295 Wendy: you, or they talk or. 1321 00:42:54,295 --> 00:42:54,815 Wendy: You know what I mean? 1322 00:42:54,815 --> 00:42:56,974 Wendy: And then you just can't be comfortable in your own space, 1323 00:42:56,974 --> 00:43:00,695 Wendy: and all you're doing is grocery shopping or going to an event 1324 00:43:00,695 --> 00:43:02,695 Wendy: with your family, or, you know what I mean? 1325 00:43:02,695 --> 00:43:04,974 Wendy: Going to a fucking movie or a concert. 1326 00:43:05,054 --> 00:43:05,454 Wendy: When. 1327 00:43:05,255 --> 00:43:06,974 Siren: You know the eyes are on you and 1328 00:43:06,974 --> 00:43:08,875 Siren: you know that the whispers are 1329 00:43:08,875 --> 00:43:10,474 Siren: about you. 1330 00:43:10,474 --> 00:43:14,954 Siren: It's it's a lot of it's hard, especially when you don't feel 1331 00:43:14,954 --> 00:43:16,675 Siren: safe in the space already. 1332 00:43:16,514 --> 00:43:17,914 Wendy: Yeah yeah. 1333 00:43:17,715 --> 00:43:19,394 Siren: Yeah, yeah. 1334 00:43:19,275 --> 00:43:24,235 Wendy: And to have to have, you know, when me and my ex-wife were 1335 00:43:24,235 --> 00:43:28,414 Wendy: together, we went to her first pride in Indy. 1336 00:43:28,414 --> 00:43:29,574 Wendy: And we're on the way. 1337 00:43:29,574 --> 00:43:33,235 Wendy: We're on we're either on the way there or there, and I said, so 1338 00:43:33,235 --> 00:43:35,554 Wendy: we need to have a game plan if we're ready to leave. 1339 00:43:35,554 --> 00:43:36,855 Wendy: And she goes, what? 1340 00:43:36,855 --> 00:43:38,855 Wendy: Like if if like somebody's 1341 00:43:38,855 --> 00:43:39,855 Wendy: talking your ear off and you 1342 00:43:39,855 --> 00:43:42,675 Wendy: don't want to stick around, I'm 1343 00:43:42,675 --> 00:43:44,414 Wendy: like, no, if someone starts like 1344 00:43:44,414 --> 00:43:48,034 Wendy: mass shooting because we're at a 1345 00:43:48,034 --> 00:43:49,635 Wendy: pride event. 1346 00:43:49,635 --> 00:43:50,775 Wendy: and that was something I never 1347 00:43:50,775 --> 00:43:52,295 Wendy: talked about before, but I 1348 00:43:52,295 --> 00:43:53,315 Wendy: thought it was important to 1349 00:43:53,315 --> 00:43:55,135 Wendy: like, have a conversation with 1350 00:43:55,135 --> 00:43:56,815 Wendy: her just in case that might pop 1351 00:43:56,815 --> 00:43:57,414 Wendy: off. 1352 00:43:57,215 --> 00:43:57,614 Wendy: Yeah. 1353 00:43:57,454 --> 00:43:58,934 Wendy: Of what to do. 1354 00:43:58,934 --> 00:44:01,815 Wendy: Yeah. I was to have to live in that space. 1355 00:44:02,735 --> 00:44:04,894 Siren: I was just walking back from my 1356 00:44:04,894 --> 00:44:08,574 Siren: car to start, like back into my 1357 00:44:08,574 --> 00:44:10,235 Siren: job, someone yelled from a 1358 00:44:10,235 --> 00:44:12,034 Siren: truck, um, across the parking 1359 00:44:12,034 --> 00:44:14,755 Siren: lot, called me the f word, the f 1360 00:44:14,755 --> 00:44:16,155 Siren: word, and. 1361 00:44:18,775 --> 00:44:22,054 Siren: I feel I'm pretty fucking confident person. 1362 00:44:22,054 --> 00:44:23,054 Siren: You know what I mean? 1363 00:44:23,054 --> 00:44:25,335 Siren: So I stand up and I say, like, you want to say that a little 1364 00:44:25,335 --> 00:44:27,815 Siren: bit louder and a little bit to my face because I know they just 1365 00:44:27,815 --> 00:44:29,054 Siren: fucking drive away. 1366 00:44:29,054 --> 00:44:30,454 Siren: I was feeling it that day. 1367 00:44:31,414 --> 00:44:31,775 Wendy: Right. 1368 00:44:31,775 --> 00:44:33,014 Wendy: You were like, fuck around. 1369 00:44:32,855 --> 00:44:38,655 Siren: Guy revs his engine to two high school kids stand up in the bed 1370 00:44:38,655 --> 00:44:39,815 Siren: of the truck. 1371 00:44:39,815 --> 00:44:41,454 Siren: I there's not one person in the 1372 00:44:41,454 --> 00:44:43,414 Siren: truck, but four people in truck 1373 00:44:43,414 --> 00:44:44,614 Siren: six total. 1374 00:44:44,614 --> 00:44:47,735 Siren: If you include the two in the back and the revs, the engine 1375 00:44:47,735 --> 00:44:50,695 Siren: drives towards me like speeding up towards me. 1376 00:44:50,695 --> 00:44:53,335 Siren: He would have had to jump a curb to get there, I was the most 1377 00:44:53,335 --> 00:44:56,934 Siren: scared I've ever been in my entire life was in that moment. 1378 00:44:56,934 --> 00:44:59,114 Siren: and I was standing outside of my 1379 00:44:59,114 --> 00:45:01,494 Siren: job at, like, two in the 1380 00:45:01,494 --> 00:45:02,514 Siren: afternoon. 1381 00:45:02,315 --> 00:45:02,914 Wendy: Yeah. 1382 00:45:02,715 --> 00:45:04,675 Siren: So it's scary and it's scary. 1383 00:45:04,675 --> 00:45:09,355 Siren: And it's like when we want a safe space as like people who 1384 00:45:09,355 --> 00:45:14,235 Siren: are visibly queer to exist. 1385 00:45:15,114 --> 00:45:16,514 Wendy: We don't get that safe space. 1386 00:45:16,355 --> 00:45:18,195 Siren: We need a little gatekeeping. 1387 00:45:18,954 --> 00:45:19,635 Wendy: Yeah. 1388 00:45:19,434 --> 00:45:20,114 Wendy: and you know what? 1389 00:45:20,114 --> 00:45:22,835 Wendy: honestly, it makes me think a 1390 00:45:22,835 --> 00:45:26,994 Wendy: lot about, like, people of color 1391 00:45:26,994 --> 00:45:28,994 Wendy: when I came out and, you're 1392 00:45:28,994 --> 00:45:30,715 Wendy: blatantly just fucking hated on 1393 00:45:30,715 --> 00:45:33,195 Wendy: it makes me realize that this is 1394 00:45:33,195 --> 00:45:35,715 Wendy: just a fucking fragment of what 1395 00:45:35,715 --> 00:45:37,235 Wendy: people of color have had to go 1396 00:45:37,235 --> 00:45:39,335 Wendy: through for so many fucking 1397 00:45:39,335 --> 00:45:42,635 Wendy: years, and it's just so it's 1398 00:45:42,635 --> 00:45:43,034 Wendy: sad. 1399 00:45:42,914 --> 00:45:44,235 Wendy: Terrifying, infuriating. 1400 00:45:44,514 --> 00:45:45,195 Wendy: Yeah. 1401 00:45:44,994 --> 00:45:53,324 Siren: So the question Again is should we gatekeep queer spaces? 1402 00:45:53,324 --> 00:45:54,204 Siren: More or. 1403 00:45:54,005 --> 00:45:54,405 Wendy: Less. 1404 00:45:54,244 --> 00:45:56,204 Wendy: I'm changing my answer to fuck yeah. 1405 00:45:56,485 --> 00:45:57,364 Siren: Yeah. 1406 00:45:58,005 --> 00:45:58,724 Wendy: Yeah. 1407 00:45:58,525 --> 00:45:59,284 Siren: I think yes. 1408 00:45:59,284 --> 00:46:02,644 Siren: But then the question is, how do we do that? 1409 00:46:02,644 --> 00:46:08,184 Siren: because yes, there are some people who there are people who 1410 00:46:08,184 --> 00:46:12,525 Siren: I've had to block from my community because of how they. 1411 00:46:12,525 --> 00:46:14,284 Siren: Choose to interact with people 1412 00:46:14,284 --> 00:46:15,804 Siren: and how they choose to hold 1413 00:46:15,804 --> 00:46:16,844 Siren: themselves. 1414 00:46:16,844 --> 00:46:18,565 Siren: For everybody's safety. 1415 00:46:18,364 --> 00:46:18,965 Wendy: And like. 1416 00:46:18,764 --> 00:46:22,565 Wendy: Look, we have some amazing allies, right? 1417 00:46:22,565 --> 00:46:25,344 Wendy: So we're not putting everybody in a box because we have amazing 1418 00:46:25,344 --> 00:46:32,454 Wendy: allies that will fucking fight ten toes down for us, But We'll 1419 00:46:32,454 --> 00:46:33,815 Wendy: let them in the back door. 1420 00:46:36,054 --> 00:46:38,175 Wendy: But we don't like butt stuff, so calm down. 1421 00:46:39,695 --> 00:46:41,855 Siren: We haven't we haven't gotten. 1422 00:46:41,655 --> 00:46:43,414 Wendy: To the episode in there. 1423 00:46:43,255 --> 00:46:45,614 Siren: We haven't gotten to the episode where we talk about butt stuff 1424 00:46:45,614 --> 00:46:48,175 Siren: because we probably should talk about butt stuff. 1425 00:46:48,295 --> 00:46:49,175 Wendy: We will. 1426 00:46:49,175 --> 00:46:51,135 Wendy: I'll put that on the list. 1427 00:46:51,135 --> 00:46:54,934 Wendy: Butt stuff along with deal breakers. 1428 00:46:54,974 --> 00:46:57,375 Siren: So a teaser for a future episode. 1429 00:46:57,375 --> 00:46:58,994 Siren: I'm a trans woman. 1430 00:46:58,994 --> 00:47:01,635 Siren: I had my bottom surgery, but I had a vulva plasty. 1431 00:47:01,635 --> 00:47:05,355 Siren: Which means that I didn't put another box. 1432 00:47:05,355 --> 00:47:07,715 Siren: I didn't get a build a box as part of my surgery. 1433 00:47:07,715 --> 00:47:10,835 Siren: So there's no there's no other extra holes down there. 1434 00:47:10,835 --> 00:47:12,474 Siren: So if we want to talk about the 1435 00:47:12,474 --> 00:47:14,675 Siren: other entryway, Like we can talk 1436 00:47:14,675 --> 00:47:15,414 Siren: about that. 1437 00:47:15,414 --> 00:47:17,954 Siren: And, you I got some I got some first hand experience here. 1438 00:47:17,954 --> 00:47:20,715 Siren: So like again, nothing's off limits. 1439 00:47:20,675 --> 00:47:22,434 Wendy: okay okay. 1440 00:47:23,715 --> 00:47:28,034 Wendy: Okay. Are we wrapping this up and going into segment three? 1441 00:47:27,875 --> 00:47:28,715 Siren: Yeah, I think so. 1442 00:47:33,411 --> 00:47:38,710 Wendy: Tongues out Q and a Q and A. So you want to do a couple 1443 00:47:38,710 --> 00:47:40,010 Wendy: questions from each chat. 1444 00:47:40,010 --> 00:47:41,411 Wendy: We'll just go back and forth. 1445 00:47:41,251 --> 00:47:42,851 Siren: Yeah. Let's do a couple questions from each chat. 1446 00:47:42,851 --> 00:47:44,530 Siren: So I have one in the discord to start. 1447 00:47:44,530 --> 00:47:45,931 Siren: what's one position that works 1448 00:47:45,931 --> 00:47:46,811 Siren: best, but, like, what's your 1449 00:47:46,811 --> 00:47:47,931 Siren: favorite position? 1450 00:47:53,530 --> 00:47:56,050 Wendy: Can we do we have a category or like. 1451 00:47:56,971 --> 00:47:59,311 Siren: I mean, there should be categories, right? 1452 00:47:59,521 --> 00:48:01,760 Wendy: The I want to do or that's done to me. 1453 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:03,641 Wendy: Which which one are we like? 1454 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,400 Siren: Where do you hope to find yourself. 1455 00:48:06,161 --> 00:48:09,041 Wendy: In someone's pussy at all times? 1456 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:10,440 Siren: Okay. Valid. 1457 00:48:11,161 --> 00:48:11,760 Wendy: I. 1458 00:48:11,561 --> 00:48:15,360 Wendy: Will smother myself to death before I come up for air. 1459 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:16,161 Siren: Perfect. 1460 00:48:16,681 --> 00:48:18,601 Wendy: If you don't come, I'm not gonna 1461 00:48:18,601 --> 00:48:21,380 Wendy: fucking take a breath until you 1462 00:48:21,380 --> 00:48:21,800 Wendy: come. 1463 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,320 Wendy: And I don't care how long I'm down there. 1464 00:48:24,681 --> 00:48:25,481 Siren: what we're hearing. 1465 00:48:25,481 --> 00:48:28,681 Siren: be careful with the words. 1466 00:48:28,681 --> 00:48:31,681 Siren: Keep going if you're with Wendy. 1467 00:48:31,681 --> 00:48:33,760 Siren: Because, like, like she's gonna 1468 00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:35,001 Siren: keep going until she just can't 1469 00:48:35,001 --> 00:48:35,920 Siren: keep going. 1470 00:48:36,561 --> 00:48:39,041 Wendy: Yeah, I mean, you're gonna fucking tap out. 1471 00:48:39,041 --> 00:48:41,320 Wendy: We're not like, oh, my God, you're taking too long. 1472 00:48:41,561 --> 00:48:44,001 Wendy: Like grow up. 1473 00:48:44,001 --> 00:48:45,201 Wendy: No, we. 1474 00:48:45,041 --> 00:48:47,371 Siren: Blocked the entire night off. 1475 00:48:47,371 --> 00:48:48,610 Siren: This is an event. 1476 00:48:49,251 --> 00:48:49,610 Wendy: For. 1477 00:48:49,731 --> 00:48:51,690 Wendy: A snorkel, a snorkel. 1478 00:48:51,690 --> 00:48:55,010 Wendy: So it's just we can put it in the nose and it just. 1479 00:48:55,010 --> 00:48:55,891 Wendy: You can take a little. 1480 00:48:55,690 --> 00:48:56,331 Wendy: Breath. 1481 00:48:57,090 --> 00:48:59,771 Wendy: Because I've literally I almost passed out. 1482 00:49:00,090 --> 00:49:01,050 Siren: It happens. 1483 00:49:00,851 --> 00:49:01,650 Wendy: It happens. 1484 00:49:01,451 --> 00:49:02,010 Wendy: Passed out. 1485 00:49:01,811 --> 00:49:02,451 Wendy: Before. 1486 00:49:02,451 --> 00:49:02,971 Wendy: Okay. 1487 00:49:02,771 --> 00:49:03,411 Wendy: You go. 1488 00:49:03,891 --> 00:49:05,490 Siren: I think for me is I think it 1489 00:49:05,490 --> 00:49:06,530 Siren: really depends on the person, I 1490 00:49:06,530 --> 00:49:07,411 Siren: feel like it's less about 1491 00:49:07,411 --> 00:49:08,851 Siren: position. 1492 00:49:08,851 --> 00:49:11,010 Siren: Is that am I am I skirting the question? 1493 00:49:11,570 --> 00:49:12,530 Wendy: Yeah you are. 1494 00:49:12,490 --> 00:49:13,050 Wendy: Answer. 1495 00:49:12,891 --> 00:49:13,331 Wendy: It. 1496 00:49:13,331 --> 00:49:16,510 Siren: position I mean like honestly 1497 00:49:16,510 --> 00:49:20,170 Siren: hands bound above my head would 1498 00:49:20,170 --> 00:49:22,130 Siren: be perfect. 1499 00:49:22,130 --> 00:49:24,090 Siren: Yeah, I mean, that's kind of ideal. 1500 00:49:24,090 --> 00:49:25,731 Siren: Beyond that, I don't give a shit. 1501 00:49:26,971 --> 00:49:28,490 Wendy: I mean, let's go. 1502 00:49:30,186 --> 00:49:34,967 Wendy: we have a question in the chat from Katie Tater Tot. 1503 00:49:34,967 --> 00:49:38,887 Wendy: I have only had queer relations once. 1504 00:49:38,887 --> 00:49:39,967 Wendy: It was not for me. 1505 00:49:39,967 --> 00:49:42,726 Wendy: Do you judge straight folks for trying? 1506 00:49:42,726 --> 00:49:47,646 Wendy: No. Sexuality is a spectrum I love. 1507 00:49:47,646 --> 00:49:48,847 Wendy: We do not judge. 1508 00:49:48,847 --> 00:49:53,726 Wendy: If you're exploring and like, that's it's consensual. 1509 00:49:53,726 --> 00:49:56,206 Wendy: Like there's nothing wrong with you exploring what you like. 1510 00:49:56,206 --> 00:49:57,166 Wendy: You like what you like. 1511 00:49:57,166 --> 00:49:59,527 Wendy: I don't like dick. 1512 00:49:59,527 --> 00:50:00,887 Wendy: I don't like boys. 1513 00:50:00,887 --> 00:50:01,686 Wendy: Okay. 1514 00:50:01,686 --> 00:50:02,407 Wendy: And we know that. 1515 00:50:02,407 --> 00:50:02,967 Wendy: We tried it. 1516 00:50:02,967 --> 00:50:03,646 Wendy: We didn't like it. 1517 00:50:03,646 --> 00:50:04,367 Wendy: You know. 1518 00:50:04,766 --> 00:50:06,447 Siren: We don't need to get into the details. 1519 00:50:06,447 --> 00:50:07,686 Siren: It's scientific. 1520 00:50:07,686 --> 00:50:11,086 Speaker 9: Why would why would we why would we judge, you know? 1521 00:50:11,166 --> 00:50:12,447 Wendy: No. Absolutely not. 1522 00:50:12,527 --> 00:50:13,737 Wendy: Yeah. No. 1523 00:50:14,257 --> 00:50:15,177 Siren: You have to explore. 1524 00:50:15,177 --> 00:50:16,297 Siren: You have to try new things. 1525 00:50:16,297 --> 00:50:19,896 Siren: And like, consent is fucking everything. 1526 00:50:19,896 --> 00:50:21,697 Siren: Consent is everything. 1527 00:50:21,697 --> 00:50:22,097 Siren: Okay? 1528 00:50:22,097 --> 00:50:24,257 Siren: And if you decide that you don't 1529 00:50:24,257 --> 00:50:26,496 Siren: like it, you can just not like 1530 00:50:26,496 --> 00:50:26,657 Siren: it. 1531 00:50:26,657 --> 00:50:28,536 Siren: You can just be like, hey guys, I'm out. 1532 00:50:28,536 --> 00:50:29,137 Siren: I'm done. 1533 00:50:29,137 --> 00:50:31,137 Siren: Like, nope, nope. 1534 00:50:31,137 --> 00:50:34,876 Siren: I say, guys, is like this, this fictitious whatever I'm doing, 1535 00:50:34,876 --> 00:50:36,336 Siren: there are multiple men there. 1536 00:50:36,336 --> 00:50:37,056 Siren: I'm like, what? 1537 00:50:37,056 --> 00:50:37,737 Siren: Okay. 1538 00:50:38,376 --> 00:50:39,257 Wendy: There's twenty. 1539 00:50:39,257 --> 00:50:40,016 Wendy: And we're like. 1540 00:50:39,817 --> 00:50:40,376 Wendy: Look. 1541 00:50:40,217 --> 00:50:41,456 Siren: Look, guys, we're done. 1542 00:50:41,456 --> 00:50:43,217 Siren: We're done boys, let's go. 1543 00:50:43,056 --> 00:50:43,976 Wendy: Being tossed. 1544 00:50:43,777 --> 00:50:46,896 Wendy: Around here, there's too many dicks coming out. 1545 00:50:46,737 --> 00:50:48,617 Siren: Oh my God, that's way too many. 1546 00:50:48,617 --> 00:50:50,097 Siren: That's way too many. 1547 00:50:50,097 --> 00:50:50,536 Wendy: Way. 1548 00:50:50,336 --> 00:50:51,896 Wendy: Too many dicks coming at. 1549 00:50:51,697 --> 00:50:52,657 Wendy: Me. I would. 1550 00:50:52,456 --> 00:50:55,217 Wendy: Say that about a vagina never. 1551 00:50:56,336 --> 00:50:57,177 Wendy: Coming at me. 1552 00:50:58,056 --> 00:51:01,777 Wendy: Do you prefer monogamous relationships? 1553 00:51:01,777 --> 00:51:04,137 Wendy: Yes. I'm very monogamous. 1554 00:51:03,976 --> 00:51:04,697 Siren: Yes and. 1555 00:51:04,496 --> 00:51:05,016 Wendy: No. 1556 00:51:05,177 --> 00:51:08,016 Wendy: A a relationship person. 1557 00:51:07,856 --> 00:51:09,777 Siren: I'm not trying to skirt the question. 1558 00:51:09,777 --> 00:51:12,347 Siren: Yes and no. Like. 1559 00:51:12,347 --> 00:51:19,027 Siren: I have only been in monogamous relationships, but monogamous in 1560 00:51:19,027 --> 00:51:21,387 Siren: the way that like, we can still make out with our friends 1561 00:51:21,186 --> 00:51:22,067 Wendy: Do you want to make out with me? 1562 00:51:22,067 --> 00:51:22,867 Wendy: Is that what you're saying? 1563 00:51:22,867 --> 00:51:24,186 Wendy: It was like one time I made out 1564 00:51:24,186 --> 00:51:25,027 Wendy: with my friend and we got 1565 00:51:25,027 --> 00:51:25,786 Wendy: married. 1566 00:51:27,547 --> 00:51:28,907 Siren: Is this the one you U-Haul with? 1567 00:51:28,907 --> 00:51:31,027 Siren: Is this the one you U-Haul with the second time? 1568 00:51:31,586 --> 00:51:32,146 Wendy: Yeah. 1569 00:51:32,266 --> 00:51:33,666 Siren: one of them. 1570 00:51:33,666 --> 00:51:34,347 Siren: One of. 1571 00:51:34,146 --> 00:51:34,467 Wendy: Them? 1572 00:51:34,467 --> 00:51:35,067 Wendy: I mean. 1573 00:51:34,907 --> 00:51:36,947 Wendy: Technically, she fucking U-Haul 1574 00:51:36,947 --> 00:51:39,527 Wendy: with me because she's going to 1575 00:51:39,527 --> 00:51:41,146 Wendy: ask me to marry her and to move 1576 00:51:41,146 --> 00:51:41,586 Wendy: in. 1577 00:51:41,387 --> 00:51:42,347 Wendy: just because. 1578 00:51:42,146 --> 00:51:43,706 Siren: They call it a U-Haul doesn't 1579 00:51:43,706 --> 00:51:45,266 Siren: mean you get to, like, blame the 1580 00:51:45,266 --> 00:51:46,266 Siren: other person. 1581 00:51:46,266 --> 00:51:47,186 Siren: It's a we. 1582 00:51:47,027 --> 00:51:47,666 Wendy: Hall. 1583 00:51:50,786 --> 00:51:51,626 Wendy: Not a we. 1584 00:51:51,467 --> 00:51:52,146 Wendy: Hall. 1585 00:51:52,306 --> 00:51:53,586 Wendy: two guilty parties. 1586 00:51:53,387 --> 00:51:53,746 Wendy: Yeah. 1587 00:51:53,586 --> 00:51:54,306 Siren: Two guilty parties. 1588 00:51:54,306 --> 00:51:57,086 Siren: And like squeezy and I have been together for like a year and a 1589 00:51:57,086 --> 00:52:00,706 Siren: half, and we are monogamous in the sense that, like, we've 1590 00:52:00,706 --> 00:52:04,547 Siren: neither one has found anybody that we're like, hey, I want to 1591 00:52:04,547 --> 00:52:08,606 Siren: make this not monogamous anymore, but we're both open for 1592 00:52:08,606 --> 00:52:11,726 Siren: a conversation if we need to have a conversation. 1593 00:52:12,847 --> 00:52:14,007 Wendy: Have you ever cheated? 1594 00:52:13,806 --> 00:52:17,967 Siren: I, I have not, I have not 1595 00:52:17,967 --> 00:52:20,487 Siren: cheated on someone that I've 1596 00:52:20,487 --> 00:52:21,726 Siren: been dating, but I've been 1597 00:52:21,726 --> 00:52:23,166 Siren: cheated on, and I've helped 1598 00:52:23,166 --> 00:52:24,086 Siren: someone cheat. 1599 00:52:24,086 --> 00:52:27,286 Siren: I've been cheated with, I should say. 1600 00:52:27,286 --> 00:52:27,847 Siren: Does that make sense? 1601 00:52:27,847 --> 00:52:30,086 Siren: Like someone cheated on their person with me. 1602 00:52:30,367 --> 00:52:31,126 Wendy: With you? 1603 00:52:31,126 --> 00:52:31,806 Wendy: Mhm. 1604 00:52:31,606 --> 00:52:33,367 Siren: both in high school. 1605 00:52:34,766 --> 00:52:37,487 Wendy: did I ever have sex with another person? 1606 00:52:37,487 --> 00:52:39,527 Wendy: No. Did I cheat? 1607 00:52:39,527 --> 00:52:40,206 Wendy: Yes. 1608 00:52:40,206 --> 00:52:42,567 Wendy: my first wife, if y'all don't know, cheated on me on and off 1609 00:52:42,567 --> 00:52:44,246 Wendy: for thirteen years. 1610 00:52:44,246 --> 00:52:46,487 Wendy: And I did not love myself enough. 1611 00:52:46,487 --> 00:52:48,367 Wendy: And I stayed with her. 1612 00:52:48,367 --> 00:52:53,387 Wendy: but it got to the point where it happened, like, three times and 1613 00:52:53,387 --> 00:52:55,666 Wendy: someone showed interest in me. 1614 00:52:55,666 --> 00:52:59,907 Wendy: And it was nice having some attention from someone. 1615 00:52:59,907 --> 00:53:03,266 Wendy: So I emotionally cheated. 1616 00:53:03,266 --> 00:53:03,786 Wendy: And we. 1617 00:53:03,786 --> 00:53:04,586 Wendy: We made out. 1618 00:53:04,586 --> 00:53:08,067 Wendy: But I've never liked slept with another person and cheated on 1619 00:53:08,067 --> 00:53:08,947 Wendy: someone that way. 1620 00:53:09,106 --> 00:53:09,706 Wendy: Yeah. 1621 00:53:09,507 --> 00:53:11,347 Siren: I think for me, one of the 1622 00:53:11,347 --> 00:53:13,507 Siren: reasons why I never did it was 1623 00:53:13,507 --> 00:53:15,646 Siren: less about like, any sort of 1624 00:53:15,646 --> 00:53:16,467 Siren: moral obligation. 1625 00:53:16,467 --> 00:53:19,126 Siren: I mean, I had a moral obligation, but I never really 1626 00:53:19,126 --> 00:53:20,726 Siren: felt like I had the temptation. 1627 00:53:20,726 --> 00:53:24,407 Siren: And I think part of it was I never felt like I, I never felt 1628 00:53:24,407 --> 00:53:25,847 Siren: like anybody would liked me. 1629 00:53:25,847 --> 00:53:28,246 Siren: I feel like anybody was into me. 1630 00:53:28,246 --> 00:53:30,367 Siren: Like, why would anybody be into me? 1631 00:53:30,367 --> 00:53:34,686 Siren: Because I. I so loathed myself. 1632 00:53:34,686 --> 00:53:39,047 Siren: Every aspect of who I was in terms of my body, especially so 1633 00:53:39,047 --> 00:53:42,706 Siren: for someone to have a like a very, like, primal, like 1634 00:53:42,706 --> 00:53:49,766 Siren: physical crush on me, my brain could not oh fuck. 1635 00:53:49,766 --> 00:53:51,617 Siren: My brain could not. 1636 00:53:51,617 --> 00:53:54,356 Siren: I could never expect someone to do that because there was like, 1637 00:53:54,356 --> 00:53:56,297 Siren: I don't know, not at all. 1638 00:53:56,297 --> 00:53:57,936 Siren: But now it's different. 1639 00:54:00,152 --> 00:54:03,152 Siren: Do you have a relationship with the church or religion? 1640 00:54:02,952 --> 00:54:04,353 Wendy: Not really like that. 1641 00:54:04,353 --> 00:54:07,152 Wendy: I mean, I went to church when I was younger. 1642 00:54:07,152 --> 00:54:09,213 Wendy: I enjoyed going. 1643 00:54:09,213 --> 00:54:11,293 Wendy: Like, it was fun. 1644 00:54:11,293 --> 00:54:15,492 Wendy: I did it when I was younger, probably like eight to. 1645 00:54:15,492 --> 00:54:16,893 Wendy: Ten or eleven. 1646 00:54:16,893 --> 00:54:19,932 Wendy: And then I went to a Catholic school in eighth grade. 1647 00:54:19,932 --> 00:54:22,132 Wendy: And Catholic people They're another breed. 1648 00:54:22,132 --> 00:54:26,152 Wendy: you know, there's like slot machines, booze and cigarettes 1649 00:54:26,152 --> 00:54:28,773 Wendy: and, like, these priest house. 1650 00:54:28,773 --> 00:54:31,333 Wendy: And I'm just like, Holy shit, what's happening here? 1651 00:54:31,333 --> 00:54:33,873 Wendy: but I don't have religious 1652 00:54:33,873 --> 00:54:36,172 Wendy: trauma, from parents or anything 1653 00:54:36,172 --> 00:54:36,532 Wendy: like that. 1654 00:54:36,532 --> 00:54:42,213 Wendy: They weren't really into going to church or being religious. 1655 00:54:42,213 --> 00:54:46,333 Wendy: My grandmother was, I was close with her. 1656 00:54:46,333 --> 00:54:48,722 Wendy: she didn't judge me for being gay. 1657 00:54:48,722 --> 00:54:52,902 Wendy: She didn't preach to me, but there was always this underlying 1658 00:54:52,902 --> 00:54:56,563 Wendy: like, it's not okay, So yeah. 1659 00:54:56,563 --> 00:54:58,922 Wendy: I don't get into religion. 1660 00:54:58,922 --> 00:55:00,282 Wendy: It's just not for me. 1661 00:55:00,282 --> 00:55:02,963 Wendy: I don't yuck your yum if like it's something that you like and 1662 00:55:02,963 --> 00:55:05,643 Wendy: it gives you hope and something to believe in. 1663 00:55:05,643 --> 00:55:07,762 Wendy: Who am I to take that from you? 1664 00:55:07,762 --> 00:55:08,922 Wendy: It's just not for me. 1665 00:55:08,922 --> 00:55:11,163 Wendy: don't make me feel bad about it. 1666 00:55:11,163 --> 00:55:13,163 Wendy: don't squeeze it down my throat 1667 00:55:13,163 --> 00:55:14,762 Wendy: or make me try to stomach it I 1668 00:55:14,762 --> 00:55:15,322 Wendy: don't want. 1669 00:55:15,123 --> 00:55:15,603 Wendy: To. 1670 00:55:15,563 --> 00:55:18,782 Siren: Exactly. Yeah, I think that your 1671 00:55:18,782 --> 00:55:21,322 Siren: relationship with the church is 1672 00:55:21,322 --> 00:55:22,382 Siren: a little different than mine 1673 00:55:22,382 --> 00:55:24,483 Siren: you've been out for Twenty plus 1674 00:55:24,483 --> 00:55:25,163 Siren: years. 1675 00:55:25,802 --> 00:55:26,483 Wendy: Yeah. 1676 00:55:27,043 --> 00:55:33,563 Siren: I was heavily, deeply involved in religion and Christianity for 1677 00:55:33,563 --> 00:55:35,563 Siren: about twenty years. 1678 00:55:35,362 --> 00:55:36,003 Wendy: Yeah. 1679 00:55:36,083 --> 00:55:40,242 Siren: now, if someone asked me if God exists, I would say that God is 1680 00:55:40,242 --> 00:55:42,322 Siren: everything is all of it is me. 1681 00:55:42,322 --> 00:55:46,362 Siren: Is you, is them, is the air we breathe, is the thoughts we 1682 00:55:46,362 --> 00:55:50,322 Siren: think is the fucking TV screen in our living rooms? 1683 00:55:50,322 --> 00:55:52,802 Siren: Is all of it combined into one thing? 1684 00:55:52,802 --> 00:55:54,402 Siren: If we could do that, if we could 1685 00:55:54,402 --> 00:55:56,762 Siren: pull it all together, that's 1686 00:55:56,762 --> 00:55:57,202 Siren: God. 1687 00:55:57,202 --> 00:55:58,202 Siren: That's what I got. 1688 00:56:02,338 --> 00:56:03,458 Wendy: We got one more question. 1689 00:56:03,298 --> 00:56:03,978 Siren: Okay. 1690 00:56:04,619 --> 00:56:06,259 Wendy: your best advice for someone new 1691 00:56:06,259 --> 00:56:07,898 Wendy: to the lesbian dating scene from 1692 00:56:07,898 --> 00:56:08,898 Wendy: experience. 1693 00:56:08,898 --> 00:56:12,338 Wendy: I think you should be your most authentic self and surround 1694 00:56:12,338 --> 00:56:14,858 Wendy: yourself with people that let you freely be you. 1695 00:56:14,858 --> 00:56:16,378 Wendy: And don't make you feel bad about it. 1696 00:56:16,378 --> 00:56:16,978 Wendy: Yeah. 1697 00:56:16,978 --> 00:56:18,298 Wendy: Do you have anything to add to that? 1698 00:56:19,298 --> 00:56:21,949 Siren: I feel like you're the authority on that, to be honest. 1699 00:56:21,949 --> 00:56:23,409 Siren: and we can get into this another time. 1700 00:56:23,409 --> 00:56:27,768 Siren: But my experience is like dating cis lesbians has been not great. 1701 00:56:28,449 --> 00:56:29,088 Wendy: Yeah. 1702 00:56:29,849 --> 00:56:32,409 Wendy: What's your favorite artificial flavor? 1703 00:56:32,208 --> 00:56:33,048 Siren: Purple. 1704 00:56:33,168 --> 00:56:34,568 Wendy: What's in my mouth right now? 1705 00:56:34,809 --> 00:56:35,489 Wendy: Purple. 1706 00:56:35,449 --> 00:56:36,208 Wendy: Purple and. 1707 00:56:36,009 --> 00:56:36,568 Wendy: Green. 1708 00:56:36,369 --> 00:56:37,128 Siren: Purple. 1709 00:56:36,969 --> 00:56:38,289 Wendy: Purple and green, baby. 1710 00:56:38,809 --> 00:56:39,449 Siren: And blue. 1711 00:56:39,449 --> 00:56:40,329 Siren: I really like. 1712 00:56:40,329 --> 00:56:42,088 Siren: I really like a sour blue. 1713 00:56:41,889 --> 00:56:42,309 Wendy: Like 1714 00:56:42,869 --> 00:56:43,829 Wendy: Blue raspberry. 1715 00:56:43,668 --> 00:56:45,349 Siren: Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah. 1716 00:56:47,045 --> 00:56:50,885 Siren: All right, so next episode, guys, what's coming up next? 1717 00:56:50,885 --> 00:56:54,244 Siren: we got some teaser topics to potentially look at for the next 1718 00:56:54,244 --> 00:56:57,784 Siren: episode of Tongues Out, the podcast that, who the fuck knows 1719 00:56:57,784 --> 00:57:00,465 Siren: what kind of chaos we're going to get into when we're here? 1720 00:57:00,985 --> 00:57:03,144 Wendy: What stuff is up next? 1721 00:57:02,985 --> 00:57:04,505 Siren: But stuff is on the list. 1722 00:57:04,344 --> 00:57:05,394 Wendy: Red flags. 1723 00:57:05,755 --> 00:57:10,614 Siren: I think navigating friendships like queer friendships 1724 00:57:10,614 --> 00:57:14,175 Siren: post-breakup, is an interesting topic for discussion. 1725 00:57:14,135 --> 00:57:14,974 Wendy: Yes. 1726 00:57:14,815 --> 00:57:16,454 Wendy: Yeah. What queer means to you. 1727 00:57:16,295 --> 00:57:17,454 Siren: Queer friendships in general. 1728 00:57:17,454 --> 00:57:18,375 Siren: Yeah. Oh my gosh. 1729 00:57:18,375 --> 00:57:20,855 Siren: Spicy like queer friendship is so spicy. 1730 00:57:20,855 --> 00:57:22,375 Siren: You just want to make out all the time. 1731 00:57:22,375 --> 00:57:23,594 Siren: But you can't because you're 1732 00:57:23,594 --> 00:57:24,994 Siren: like friends and you're like, 1733 00:57:24,994 --> 00:57:26,054 Siren: that person's dating that 1734 00:57:26,054 --> 00:57:26,534 Siren: person. 1735 00:57:26,534 --> 00:57:28,375 Siren: And like, oh my gosh, it's crazy. 1736 00:57:28,375 --> 00:57:29,295 Siren: It's crazy. 1737 00:57:29,255 --> 00:57:30,375 Wendy: Oh my God. 1738 00:57:32,655 --> 00:57:35,815 Wendy: Y'all will have to, let us know what you thought about it. 1739 00:57:35,815 --> 00:57:37,094 Wendy: If you're digging it, if you're 1740 00:57:37,094 --> 00:57:38,655 Wendy: feeling it, if you want us to 1741 00:57:38,655 --> 00:57:40,574 Wendy: record more, if you loved it, if 1742 00:57:40,574 --> 00:57:41,574 Wendy: you hate it, what we can do 1743 00:57:41,574 --> 00:57:42,454 Wendy: better. 1744 00:57:42,454 --> 00:57:44,454 Wendy: We couldn't do anything better because we're perfect. 1745 00:57:44,454 --> 00:57:48,534 Wendy: But other than that, you can drop your thought. 1746 00:57:48,534 --> 00:57:51,454 Wendy: I don't know if we'll pick it up, but you can drop it. 1747 00:57:51,454 --> 00:57:52,335 Wendy: And we appreciate you. 1748 00:57:52,335 --> 00:57:53,255 Wendy: And we love you. 1749 00:57:53,094 --> 00:57:53,855 Siren: Keep it queer. 1750 00:57:53,855 --> 00:57:57,735 Siren: Keep it spicy and maybe text your crush after this. 1751 00:57:57,534 --> 00:58:00,855 Wendy: This is the pilot of Tung Tung. 1752 00:58:01,414 --> 00:58:02,135 Wendy: Tung Tung. 1753 00:58:01,974 --> 00:58:02,574 Wendy: That's our name. 1754 00:58:02,574 --> 00:58:02,894 Wendy: Is it? 1755 00:58:02,894 --> 00:58:03,735 Wendy: Is it Tung? 1756 00:58:03,815 --> 00:58:04,614 Siren: I thought it was Tung. 1757 00:58:04,614 --> 00:58:05,974 Siren: Is it tongues out or tongue first? 1758 00:58:05,974 --> 00:58:06,894 Siren: Tongue first. 1759 00:58:07,614 --> 00:58:08,295 Wendy: Tongue first. 1760 00:58:08,135 --> 00:58:08,574 Siren: Tongue first. 1761 00:58:08,574 --> 00:58:09,735 Siren: Did I introduce it as tongues? 1762 00:58:09,735 --> 00:58:11,815 Siren: Out its tongue first. 1763 00:58:11,815 --> 00:58:12,974 Siren: Tongue first. 1764 00:58:13,215 --> 00:58:13,655 Wendy: Tongue. 1765 00:58:13,494 --> 00:58:14,574 Wendy: First. Tongue first. 1766 00:58:14,574 --> 00:58:15,534 Wendy: All right. 1767 00:58:15,534 --> 00:58:16,255 Wendy: We love you all. 1768 00:58:16,255 --> 00:58:17,655 Wendy: We appreciate you. 1769 00:58:17,655 --> 00:58:20,275 Wendy: We're going to stop the recordings now, and we're going 1770 00:58:20,275 --> 00:58:22,255 Wendy: to vibe the fuck out. 1771 00:58:22,255 --> 00:58:23,295 Wendy: Till next time. 1772 00:58:23,414 --> 00:58:24,094 Siren: Tongue tied. 1773 00:58:24,094 --> 00:58:25,414 Siren: Don't worry. 1774 00:58:25,414 --> 00:58:27,255 Siren: We'll loosen you up next time. 1775 00:58:31,614 --> 00:58:32,255 Siren: Oh my gosh. 1776 00:58:32,255 --> 00:58:34,614 Siren: Thank you for letting us be part of your queer little corner of 1777 00:58:34,614 --> 00:58:35,414 Siren: the world today. 1778 00:58:43,731 --> 00:58:45,490 Speaker: Thanks for tuning in to the very 1779 00:58:45,490 --> 00:58:47,271 Speaker: first episode of Tongue first, 1780 00:58:47,271 --> 00:58:49,530 Speaker: the Queer Curiosity podcast with 1781 00:58:49,530 --> 00:58:50,331 Speaker: a bite. 1782 00:58:50,331 --> 00:58:54,291 Speaker: If you laughed, learned, or even blushed a little, hit subscribe 1783 00:58:54,291 --> 00:58:57,371 Speaker: and leave a review wherever you get your podcasts. 1784 00:58:57,371 --> 00:58:59,331 Speaker: Your support keeps the mics hot 1785 00:58:59,331 --> 00:59:00,931 Speaker: and the conversations even 1786 00:59:00,931 --> 00:59:01,771 Speaker: hotter. 1787 00:59:01,771 --> 00:59:05,731 Speaker: New episodes drop every week, so we'll see you soon. 1788 00:59:05,731 --> 00:59:08,130 Speaker: Until next time, stay curious, 1789 00:59:08,130 --> 00:59:10,550 Speaker: stay queer, and don't forget to 1790 00:59:10,550 --> 00:59:12,050 Speaker: lick responsibly. 1791 00:59:26,643 --> 00:59:26,922 Speaker: Tongue. 1792 00:59:26,922 --> 00:59:28,003 Speaker: First is written and hosted by 1793 00:59:28,003 --> 00:59:29,202 Speaker: Aubrey Jane Jones and Wendy 1794 00:59:29,202 --> 00:59:29,563 Speaker: Reeves. 1795 00:59:29,563 --> 00:59:31,523 Speaker: Produced and edited by Aubrey Jane Jones. 1796 00:59:31,523 --> 00:59:32,762 Speaker: Recorded live with our Tik Tok 1797 00:59:32,762 --> 00:59:33,842 Speaker: communities where chaos and 1798 00:59:33,842 --> 00:59:35,563 Speaker: curiosity collide. 1799 00:59:35,563 --> 00:59:37,762 Speaker: Special thanks to our Tik Tok moderators for keeping things 1800 00:59:37,762 --> 00:59:40,003 Speaker: running smoothly, and to Brookdale for lending her voice 1801 00:59:40,003 --> 00:59:41,443 Speaker: to our intro and outro.