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Love that.

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I try to keep it pretty live show.

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I don't know if you've heard it.

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I don't know if you've heard it, but I'm not going to keep you on there if you fuck up

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something, right?

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Appreciate that.

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Also, I want to apologize in advance.

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We all got bronchitis at the end of tour, so I'm like still kind of hacking up a little

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bit, even though it's been like a week and a half, but that sucks.

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Bell's probably half awake.

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I have a raging migraine.

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Everyone brought their fucking A game to the mic tonight.

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Today, not tonight.

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Ladies and gentlemen, trans and non-binary punks of all ages and denominations, welcome

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back to another episode of Not Just a Phase.

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Thanks for joining us and thanks for being here on this ridiculous planet that we call

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Let's do our plugs real quick.

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As you should know, we're online at notjustaphase.net.

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Now, before we get into the episode, I want to say I am hyped that Bell is back on the

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She's co-hosting with me today for a band we're very excited to be speaking with, and

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she's going to introduce them for us.

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Today, we're chatting with Liz Selfish, vocalist for New Orleans metal band, Brat, with an

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audible range of genre influences and a lot of pink.

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We're excited to dive into their aesthetics and inspirations.

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Hi, this is Liz from Brat, and you're listening to Human Offense on Not Just a Face.

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So they know we're here.

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Enjoy.

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Stuck with the endless

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Human attempts now taste like figures

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Only agencies time must never last

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To live on the edge, worse than by all else

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Tell me what it is

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Shift back inside, or deviate

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The positive states, like to slink

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The heart of man, like to hurt, hurt, try to hold on to what we want

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Enter the

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Awesome. Thank you. One take perfection. Absolutely flawless. Have you done a podcast before?

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Cause like that was just like a radio voice too. It's perfect. Wow. Thank you. I I've

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done like maybe one or two like with the band, but it's, it's crazy when you guys hit us

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up, we had like three podcasts reach out at once. So there, it was funny. It just, the

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flood gates open. So we'll be doing some more, but yeah, I used to do pageants. So I feel

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like that's probably where that comes from more so than like the podcast voice necessarily

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pageants. Didn't expect that one. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. I feel like that's like a pretty Southern

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thing. Totally. Yeah. Yeah. I only did them like as an adult and in New Orleans, if I

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had done them in Texas, I would have just been like obliterated because it's like so

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competitive there, but oh, it's huge. Yeah. It's like huge in Texas. Like sorry, say that

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again. Like beauty pageants, I assume. Cause like, I know there's other types of pageants.

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I'm not, I'm not well versed in this world as you can obviously tell. Yeah. Nobody is.

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Yeah. Like miss USA style stuff. Like pageants. Cool. Was it a good time? Yeah. No, I, I thought

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and then I just got like too old. I was like 28 and there it's like, all right, you're

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like 80 and pageant years now. So you gotta go. But it was fun. Yeah. Cool. Did you have

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to do like dances or like a special talent? Did you get up there and be like, I can sing.

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like miss America, they have to do an onstage talent. Miss USA doesn't, it's more of like

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a modeling thing. And then there's a lot of other like smaller pageant systems too. So

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it just kind of like depends on the system. I did not do any that had an onstage talent

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portion because I have none other than this and that. And I don't think that would probably

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go over well, but yeah, so not for me. Okay, cool. Well, they say you learn something new

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every day. I don't think I often do, but today I did. There you go. So that's cool. Before

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we get too into it, I guess for the listeners who might not know, would you just want to

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please state your name and what role it is you play in the band? Sure. I'm Liz Selfish

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and I do locals for brat. So as I said, you got this podcast voice. Do you, you listen

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to any podcasts in your free time? I actually don't listen to a lot of podcasts. One that

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I do is called tooth and claw. It's actually an animal attack podcast that Brenner and

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I love to listen to. And we're like on the road on tour, just like taking a road trip.

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really like delved into podcasts that much. I feel like I need to cause there's just so

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much out there, but it's like overwhelming to try to, to find stuff. Yeah. Podcast on

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animal attacks. Yeah. Yeah. It's like from like a, a, a bear biologist like viewpoint

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and he like goes through the attacks and likes talks about what people should have done differently.

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And it's like, it's like educational, but it's also entertaining. So it's a good one.

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If you haven't checked that out and you're interested, are you worried that you're going

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to be a victim of a bear attack in your area? Is that the God I hope not. Um, rock climb

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a lot. So, okay. Do go to areas where, you know, that's more prevalent, but definitely

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not in New Orleans. Do you have a favorite bear? Like a favorite type? I don't know.

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come in contact with one. Bears are bears are fucking cute, but they are, they are,

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they'll get your ass. So outside of bear attacks, what, what other, what other hobbies and passions

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are, are occupying your free time outside of, you know, the band and music.

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and cross country all through like my childhood into college. Um, and I still run every day

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and work out every day. And same with Brenner. Um, I would say maybe like four years ago,

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we went to a rock climbing gym in New Orleans and he just like became obsessed with it.

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rocks in New Orleans, but, um, we'll drive to like Alabama or Tennessee or something

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and go rock climbing. Um, and then we have like a small bouldering gym here that we go

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to pretty often. So that's kind of like our main thing outside of just music and what

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we do with Brad. So you do like legit rock climbing, like actually like out in the wilderness

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rock climbing, not just like at the practice places. Yeah. I mean, you can't in New Orleans

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cause there's no real rock here, but we'll take like trips to go drive to real rock and

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climb outside. How high up have you gone? Um, probably like a hundred feet. Um, that's

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Riding pretty much over that point is usually like multi-pitch. Um, but yeah, it's, it's

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scary for sure. It can be. I assume you tie off and all that good stuff. Right. Yeah.

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So we, we tie in and have the whole, the whole setup. So it's very safe. 100 feet. What is,

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what is that in stories? Nine stories. Fuck that. Fuck that. Nine stories. No, no, no,

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I've, I've roofed like three story tall shit and I got, I got nerby on that nine stories

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up. Fuck that. I just had to do the conversion. I never knew that that's how many like floors

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that was. So that's interesting. Yeah. A hundred feet is about nine stories. That's fucked.

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much of a thrill seeker at all really. And like my normal life, but like climbing I can

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get down with for some reason. Wild. Yeah. Climbing's actually Rob, you should try it.

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I feel like you would actually have, have a little bit of fun. I just said at three

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stories, I get a little nerby now. I'm in my old age. I'm not the, I've been above three

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stories. I've been above three stories, but now at three stories I'm shaky. But you could

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even do like, yeah. Bouldering is like where you're doing like more intense climbing, but

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it's much shorter. So it's usually like 15 feet, but the moves are harder. So like something

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like that is like more approachable for people who aren't into heights. Huh? Yeah. I've always

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wanted to give it a whirl. I've never been to the, um, rock climbing like places where

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you can go and like practice and tie off all safe and everything. Yeah. I bet in Canada

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there's probably like great rock climbing. I assume. Yeah. No, I'm not. I'm not unhinged

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by the local climbing nature in my free time. I'm not that crazy. Yeah. That's wild. Very

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cool. Very cool. I'm glad I asked that. Yeah. So you guys took off during the pandemic and

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couldn't play your first few shows until after the lockdown. If I'm right. What was it like?

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Am I right? Yeah. I mean, we actually started the band during the pandemic. So we didn't

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have to take an off period. We were like creating the band during COVID. Cool. What was it like

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building a listener base without playing live and starting things up at such an interesting

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time? Yeah, it was, it was weird because we put this project together during the pandemic.

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that we were a band or like put anything out before we could like play live or actually

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do anything with it. So July of 2021 was when we were able to book our first show. And at

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that point we're like, okay, we're going to like put out a song and that's how we're going

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to like announce that we're a band. So it was definitely weird because we're, we're

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just in like this waiting period of like, okay, when is it like safe for us to play

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a show again? And then there was just so much like back and forth after that of like, of

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like going back into like a quarantine and coming out and like things were kind of like

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in flux for a while, which was, was weird to deal with as a band.

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Was it weird having like a lot of first impressions come through online instead of having kind

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of the live experience and kind of easing into the scene with the music?

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we did as a band was we dropped a single and that's how we were like, hey, we're a band.

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Here's our first song and here's our show in two weeks. So it was all kind of like just

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at once. So yeah, we're able to like listen to a single first and then, but we had our

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first show like immediately after putting that out there.

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were like kids. So this is my first band personally, but Brenner, Hennessy and Dustin have all

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been playing in bands for like 15 years. But so we've all been like around this and involved

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in this in different ways for a long time. So it was, it felt like pretty comfortable

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How would you describe what bimbo violent is to someone and kind of what you built your

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like supposed to be a play on power violence. I just thought it sounded like stupid and

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funny and then all of a sudden it became like our whole thing. But yeah, I don't know. I

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guess it's just, it's kind of cool because it's like we created our own term for our

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genre which is kind of like a myriad of a lot of different things. But like we definitely

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take a lot of like hardcore and power violence influence like grind, death metal and thrash

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It's kind of cool learning that you did pageants and kind of how it plays into the whole kind

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of image you guys have going. Do you feel as if the heavy aspect of your sound itself

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and the soft kind of feminine imagery is just a matter of inventive and artistic contrast

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that keeps people interested? Or do you think the two have more in common and go more in

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hand than people initially think?

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kind of polar opposites. I don't know how much they would necessarily have in common.

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keep the band and everything like pretty lighthearted.

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What sort of writing dynamic is there in the band? Does it kind of come about naturally

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or does everyone assume certain roles in the room?

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So Brenner writes about 90% of the music. I would say he'll like, you know, come up

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with all the riffs and kind of map out drums and then pass those really rough demos to

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Dustin and then Dustin will make adjustments with drums if he feels like, you know, things

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need to be changed. So it's mostly Brenner but Dustin as well. My role is basically just

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there to critique everything. I'm like, I don't like this riff, take it out. I don't

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really contribute that much. And then Hennessy, our bass player, has also like kind of joined

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in a little bit more recently as far as like contributing some riffs. So it's becoming

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a little bit more like collaborative. But I'd say it's still like primarily Brenner

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doing most of the writing.

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to like keep like as a theme. But I will say with some of the writing, like with Brenner,

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he'll like play me what he has and I'll be like, oh, I don't think this sounds like us

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necessarily. So we'll like make adjustments based on that if something sounds like kind

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of off course of what our general sound is, we just try to keep it a little bit more like

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cohesive in that way.

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How would you describe your sort of general sound just using maybe two words?

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Two words, it's hard. I'm going to like cheat this and use the first one as a hybrid, but

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I'm going to say death brine hardcore. Or you could do dumb heavy. That works too.

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Yeah, that's a good one.

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Love that. Yeah.

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I thought you were going to say bimbo violence.

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Oh, wow.

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Smartass about it.

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A missed opportunity there.

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Is the pink Britney Spears sort of sparkly element of things something that you've been

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into since you were little or did it just come in for the music and the concept?

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When I was growing up like little, little, I was pretty much a tomboy. And then in high

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school, I started like I said, I grew up in Dallas, so I became a lot more feminine in

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high school and really bought into the pink glitter traditional kind of like feminine

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imagery. So since high school, which has been a long time for me at this point, that's been

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like something that I've really enjoyed and and I really like. And so that's kind of how

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that became part of our whole aesthetic with Brad.

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Did you guys sort of get together with that sort of contrast of ideas coming together

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in mind or did you guys sort of start writing music and it just kind of came up?

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Yeah, we didn't initially think about doing that at all. It was kind of just like we knew

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when we were writing the music, we're like it would be really fun if we put pop samples

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like in our live set in between songs. And then we struggled for a really long time to

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come up with a band name. And our working title for a while was actually Scuzz, which

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is funny because we toured with this band that we're friends with Schmuck, just a grind

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band from the Northeast. And one of the members actually has another band called Scuzz. So

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if we had picked that, we would have had the same name as an existing band that we would

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end up touring with their other band. But we finally landed on Brad and just kind of

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like the combination of Brad with like pop samples kind of helped just like put it all

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together and like create this whole vibe that we ended up sticking with.

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Yeah, for sure. Have you encountered people in the music scene that sort of reject that

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aesthetic? And is there a big contrast between any criticism you receive online versus in

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person?

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Yeah, definitely. People are always like way harsher online than they are in person, just

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kind of like the nature of the internet, I guess. The only thing we've really experienced

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in person, we did a tour with I Hate God last fall. And we were kind of like, oh, I don't

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know how how this is gonna go, you know, it's like our whole aesthetic and our whole set

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with just a bunch of old heads that come out see I Hate God. Yeah. And it was it was definitely

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very well received. But we did get heckled at one show by like, just some some old dude

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in the crowd. It was like, you guys stuck, blah, blah, blah. So but other than that,

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like the response has been pretty positive. But there's definitely people that are like,

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you know, is dumb or whatever. But it's the nature of the beast.

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Yo, shout out that guy. Fuck that guy.

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Yeah, fuck that guy. It was actually kind of nice because we had someone come to the

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merch table and be like, I liked you guys. But then I liked you even more after that

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guy was heckling you. I was like, I gotta buy some merch. So worked out for us.

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In your experience, do you think sexism still has a strong presence in the music scenes

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brought performs in?

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It definitely has a presence still. When I was going to shows in like high school, it

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was way more prevalent than it is now. I feel like things now are a little bit more like,

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I don't know how to put this like on a smaller, more subtle level than they were at that time.

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Like, I remember like 15 years ago, going to a show with my friend in high school. And

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it was a band that was all dudes, of course. And on the mic, they like called this girl

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in the crowd a slut. And I'm like, just like that kind of thing could never happen these

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days, which is amazing. So it's like, there's definitely a lot of progress that has been

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made. But it definitely still exists. I mean, you'll see that in like internet comments

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a lot. But also, like, we've had talks of like touring with bands that people are like,

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oh, you, you can't tour with that band, because, you know, the singer can't tour with like

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a younger woman or something like that. So kind of in smaller ways, and less like in

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your face ways, it's definitely still present. Yeah, for sure. What do you mean can't tour

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with? I'm curious on that. What do you mean can't tour with? Just like because they'll

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be inappropriate, either make inappropriate comments or, you know, like,

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Okay, so you got warned that they're basically just like creepy douchebags. Right, right.

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Yeah, making their own problem other people's problems. Yeah, that's fine. Yeah. Do you

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feel as if you have the same experience and obstacles as a male musician with how, you

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know, more progressive the scene has gotten? Or do you think, well, like, even with instances,

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instances like that, bands that are just male musicians don't have to deal with that. So

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right. Yeah, I mean, there's definitely obstacles that still exist that only bands that have

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women in it are going to face like, you know, obviously, that scenario is not going to happen

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with a band that's just all men. Yeah. So there's definitely still obstacles that exist.

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It's just again, in kind of like a different way, I feel than it used to be. Yeah. But

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at the same time, do you think having a feminine perspective gives you an advantage to your

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music? I don't see an advantage necessarily, but definitely like a distinction. Definitely

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kind of like a different perspective than men would have for sure. Yeah. Did you feel

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discouraged before starting due to the lack of feminine representation? Or do you feel

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a certain pressure due to being one of the few in the spotlight at all? I don't say I'd

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feel like a lot of pressure due to that necessarily. And I mean, even now with just how, how things

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are like growing and progressing, there's just more and more bands that have women and

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then popping up every day, which is awesome. So it's, it's definitely, you know, changing

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and shifting as time goes on. So, so yeah, I think there's definitely going to be a lot

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more like examples for people to kind of look up to than certainly when I was younger. Just

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kind of from that aspect. Yeah, for sure. Back to the music. What are some of Bratz's

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biggest influences when it comes to sound in general outside of the inclusion of pop

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samples and so on? Definitely like a lot of different things, a lot of hardcore, a lot

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of grind, a lot of death metal. We have some thrash riffs, a human offense, which is the

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single that we put out most recently has a lot of influence, I feel like from just us

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listening to like Power Trip. And then kind of initially when we were writing, we're listening

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to a lot of like Mammoth Grinder or Mind Eraser or I should say Brenner, I guess, because

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he's the one that's primarily writing. But that's kind of where a lot of the influences

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come from. Yeah, I don't hear enough about Mammoth Grinder. I feel like nobody talks

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about them. So that's kind of cool. I feel like I haven't heard anything about them in

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a long time, which is, yeah, like, I don't know if they're, yeah, what are they doing?

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I don't know. I haven't heard anything. Yeah. What do you think Bratz represents to an audience

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or what would you like to represent just with your music and? Girl power, baby. No, I don't

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know. Yeah, I mean, I feel like our whole thing is just kind of about having a good

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time and like not taking things so serious. Like, I feel like there's just there's a lot

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of bands that that just take things too seriously. And it's like, you know, people are here,

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people are coming to a live show to just have fun and like, have a good time. Or at least

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that's always been my philosophy. Yeah, there's definitely an avant garde side of grind and

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that sort of genre. Yeah, which can be fun. But it can be but it can also be pretentious

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at times and it's like no one wants to deal with that. Oh, quicker. Yeah.

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Oh.

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Disappear!

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This is the end!

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This is fear, this is pain, this is all you hate

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For the moment that you're pushed out, this is your fate

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We have brought time down

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This is something that you can't deny

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Realize that we are total

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It's not something that I can take

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Something to appreciate

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Rumble on, all of us

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Follow right now

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It's always fun after talking to people

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Especially if it's someone's first show

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Just being out there meeting new people

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That's definitely one of the highlights for me

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Is it me?

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Yep

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Excuse me

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Excuse me.

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Yeesh, I'm going to edit that out.

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That just sounds awful.

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Yeah, it's it's rough.

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Yeah, I was.

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Yeah, I feel awful hearing that.

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I'm sorry.

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It's okay.

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Thank you, though.

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So what's what's so far been your favorite show, favorite show or tour memory as a band

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now that you guys are actually able to play shows again?

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This past tour has definitely been my favorite tour that we've done.

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Just one, because we've done four tours at this point.

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We've been a band for it'll be like two years in July.

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And I feel like I'm finally kind of getting the hang of touring a little bit more like

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my voice is strong enough to be able to go.

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We did this past tour of 23, 24 shows with no days off.

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And so I feel like because of that, I'm able to enjoy it a lot more.

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And then, of course, just the lineup being pro mags, Ringworm and No Mas.

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It was just an insane lineup to begin with.

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And the shows were all amazing.

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I definitely had I feel like the most memorable time for me in Tampa, which was kind of funny

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because it wasn't like a particularly like banging show.

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But I was able to watch everybody set that night.

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And I was just like really emotional at that show, like just kind of like, holy shit, like

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I'm on tour with Cro-Mags.

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And so that was like probably the best memory for me from touring and just from shows that

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we've played.

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Yeah, I was going to say you've had some pretty cool live recordings and have been on some

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amazing lineups.

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So what have been some of your live show or lineup highlights so far?

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Definitely getting a Hate 5 6 video was really cool for us.

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That was just kind of like a bucket list thing that we'd always wanted.

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Yeah, congrats on that.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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It was a very rough show for me.

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I actually like cried in the van after it because I thought it went so bad.

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But watching it back, it's not like terrible, but it definitely was not my strongest set.

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I actually play every show with earplugs in.

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So I kind of learned to do vocals that way.

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Like I listen to my head voice more so than like the monitors, which is kind of nice because

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it doesn't really matter what's happening with the monitors because I can always just

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listen to my head voice.

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But I could not find my earplugs before that set.

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And I was like frantically looking for them in the van and Brenner was like, it doesn't

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matter.

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Like you got to go.

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Everybody's waiting.

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And so I used Brenner's like weird, they're like whatever musician specific, like earplugs

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that just did not work and they were not staying in.

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And it was just like so like from the jump, it was just stressful.

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And my voice just wasn't wasn't doing it.

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But still just like having that opportunity and having that was amazing.

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I wish it had been a little bit of a better show, but I'm sure we'll have more at some

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point.

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So I thought it sounded great.

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But pro tip, Kleenex, if you just ball up Kleenex and shove it in your ear, if you

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can find your plugs at the venue, it works super well.

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I have not heard that or tried that.

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That's something good to know.

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Yeah, it does a job just as effective as your plugs.

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I find crazy if you're in a pinch.

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Yeah, someone's got some cleaners.

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I'm definitely more prepared now.

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Like I bought this like massive thing of earplugs so that that hopefully does not happen again.

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But if it does, good to know about Kleenex.

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Yeah, you cannot even tell in the video.

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It's pretty fucking sick.

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But I would lose my earplugs all the time.

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So I made them into earrings for me personally.

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Oh, wow.

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That's so smart.

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I couldn't take it anymore.

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Yeah.

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But who haven't you played with yet that you'd love to share the stage with?

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Man, I feel like there's there's so many bands, but I'm crazy just like from like a local

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standpoint.

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So obviously New Orleans has such a great history with like metal bands.

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And we played with like every big New Orleans band, except for crowbar.

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We have not played with crowbar yet.

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So it would be really cool to play with them.

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Another band that I really like is Escuela.

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So I think at some point we'll probably be doing a tour or something with them.

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But I'm surprised that we haven't played with them yet at this point.

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So definitely those two are the ones that just kind of like I can think of off the bat.

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Yeah, with the Escuela, that makes a lot of sense.

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Yeah, definitely.

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Yeah, that'd be super sick to see and hear.

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Yeah, yeah.

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That'd be cool.

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It'll happen at some point.

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So fingers crossed.

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Very cool.

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Well, I got a couple of stupid questions.

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Bell's got a bunch of good ones.

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It's much better at this than myself.

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I like asking questions that I think no one has asked you before.

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You said you did like two other podcasts.

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Have you done them already?

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No, the ones that so when we got the influx at the same time, we have not done those other

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two yet.

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So we'll be the first ones.

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You'll be the first one.

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Yeah.

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Good.

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We've done a podcast before, I think.

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It's been a while.

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So this is the first one in recently that I can think of.

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Awesome.

438
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,600
I just wanted to be an asshole and say fuck with other podcasts.

439
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:42,600
Yeah, fuck them.

440
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:43,600
No, that's sick.

441
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:44,600
Okay, cool.

442
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:51,520
Well, I'm assuming no one's ever asked you what's the most illegal or dangerous thing

443
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,320
you've ever done in your life.

444
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:58,440
No one has asked me that, but also I'm like, I don't think I can share that.

445
00:36:58,440 --> 00:36:59,440
I feel like...

446
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:00,440
Okay, what about dangerous?

447
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,960
Because I know people don't want to do the illegal route, which is fine.

448
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:06,080
No one wants to implicate themselves.

449
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:07,080
Right.

450
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:12,640
Not that I've done anything that's like heinous, but I don't need a trail behind me.

451
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:13,640
You don't want it on record?

452
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:14,640
Come on.

453
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:15,640
Yeah, exactly.

454
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:16,640
Dangerous.

455
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:21,240
Like a side of climbing up fucking stories of rock.

456
00:37:21,240 --> 00:37:24,160
I can't really think of anything other than that, to be honest.

457
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:25,160
And that doesn't...

458
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,440
It's not even a good one because it's actually very safe.

459
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:28,440
But...

460
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:29,880
I mean, is it?

461
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,720
Because I don't think that would feel safe.

462
00:37:32,720 --> 00:37:33,720
I don't know.

463
00:37:33,720 --> 00:37:34,720
Yeah.

464
00:37:34,720 --> 00:37:36,760
No, it's definitely safe.

465
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:41,640
As long as you know what you're doing, then it's very safe.

466
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:42,640
Okay.

467
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:43,640
Yeah.

468
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,600
Well, hopefully an easier question to ask.

469
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:52,000
Boldly assuming you're not a pacifist, if there was a hypothetical situation where you

470
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:59,080
could punch anybody in the face, just one time, as hard as you can, and there's no repercussions,

471
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,400
who would you give a punch to?

472
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:06,840
Probably no one because I actually have punched someone in the face before...

473
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,960
Gosh, when was this?

474
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,720
Maybe like seven years ago?

475
00:38:13,720 --> 00:38:18,120
I was just hanging out with a friend and somehow we got on the subject that I had never punched

476
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,840
anybody and he was like, oh, just punch me in the face.

477
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:22,840
I was like, no.

478
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:23,840
Yeah.

479
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:24,840
He was like, no, it's not going to hurt me.

480
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:25,840
It's fine.

481
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:27,840
So I punched him in the face.

482
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:29,800
He was totally fine.

483
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,160
I broke my hand and had to get surgery.

484
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:33,160
Yeah.

485
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:34,160
So...

486
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:35,160
How hard did you hit this guy?

487
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:36,160
What?

488
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:37,320
How hard did you hit this guy?

489
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,120
If he's fine, you broke your hand?

490
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:40,120
Okay.

491
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:44,360
I think the problem is I punched him and then he was like, do it again.

492
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:45,360
And I punched him twice.

493
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,840
And I also just didn't know what I was doing.

494
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:52,960
So I was using basically like the outside two fingers of my hand and I just like looked

495
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,000
down and my knuckle is like way too far back.

496
00:38:56,000 --> 00:39:00,240
And I was like, oh no.

497
00:39:00,240 --> 00:39:01,240
Improper form.

498
00:39:01,240 --> 00:39:02,240
Okay.

499
00:39:02,240 --> 00:39:03,240
Yeah, bad form.

500
00:39:03,240 --> 00:39:04,720
So I won't be doing that again.

501
00:39:04,720 --> 00:39:05,720
That's for sure.

502
00:39:05,720 --> 00:39:06,720
So no one's getting a punch.

503
00:39:06,720 --> 00:39:07,720
Okay.

504
00:39:07,720 --> 00:39:08,720
No one's getting a punch.

505
00:39:08,720 --> 00:39:09,720
Yeah.

506
00:39:09,720 --> 00:39:10,720
I'm gonna learn my lesson.

507
00:39:10,720 --> 00:39:11,720
That's awful.

508
00:39:11,720 --> 00:39:12,720
I did not expect that.

509
00:39:12,720 --> 00:39:13,720
Okay.

510
00:39:13,720 --> 00:39:14,720
Yeah.

511
00:39:14,720 --> 00:39:21,080
I wanted to take the heel of broken hand from like a punch.

512
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,560
I've never heard of anyone breaking their hand from a punch.

513
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:27,400
It's actually called a boxer's fracture, which I think is like ironic because if you're

514
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:32,040
a boxer, you know what you're doing and you're punching with proper form.

515
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:33,040
And gloves.

516
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:34,040
Yeah.

517
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:35,040
And gloves.

518
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:36,120
But it wasn't even that I broke it.

519
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:39,800
It was that I broke it to the point that I had to get surgery on it.

520
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,760
Like it was like a whole thing.

521
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:45,760
So not to.

522
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:46,760
Yeah.

523
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:47,880
Wow.

524
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,800
I feel like I want to punch this guy in the face just because like he fucked up.

525
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,200
Like he fucked up encouraging you.

526
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:55,200
He's a great guy.

527
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:59,080
I can't, you know, shout out to my friend Rob that let me punch him in the face.

528
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:00,080
Oh, his name's Rob.

529
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:01,080
He's probably a good dude.

530
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:02,080
Yeah.

531
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:03,080
He's probably a good dude.

532
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:04,080
Great dude.

533
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,080
But yeah, but not doing that again.

534
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:07,080
Awesome.

535
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:08,080
Okay.

536
00:40:08,080 --> 00:40:15,920
What music do you listen to that could be could be considered a guilty pleasure either

537
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,840
to yourself or others?

538
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:24,240
I feel like I should have a lot of these, but also like I listen to a ton of pop music

539
00:40:24,240 --> 00:40:28,920
and a ton of dance pop, which I feel like it's not even really like a guilty pleasure

540
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,200
because it's also like kind of built into our whole brand.

541
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,040
So it's like, I don't know.

542
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,800
I can't even be embarrassed about that at that point.

543
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:37,800
True, true.

544
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:38,800
I don't know.

545
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:39,800
Pitbull.

546
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:40,800
I love Pitbull.

547
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:41,800
Is that embarrassing?

548
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:42,800
I think so.

549
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:43,800
Yeah.

550
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:44,800
Okay.

551
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:45,800
There, there you go.

552
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:46,800
Like Mr. Worldwide Pitbull.

553
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:47,800
Yeah.

554
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:48,800
I mean, you mean the king?

555
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:49,800
Yeah.

556
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:50,800
That dude is cringy as hell.

557
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:51,800
Dude, he's amazing.

558
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:52,800
All right.

559
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:53,800
We can't all have taste.

560
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:54,800
It's fine.

561
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:55,800
He's a sex symbol.

562
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:56,800
Yeah.

563
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:57,800
No.

564
00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:58,800
You guys take Pitbull.

565
00:40:58,800 --> 00:40:59,800
I don't know.

566
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:00,800
I don't know.

567
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:01,800
I don't know.

568
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:02,800
I don't know.

569
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,800
You guys take Pitbull's attractive?

570
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:05,800
Are you fucking serious?

571
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:06,800
It's a sex symbol for bald men.

572
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:07,800
No.

573
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,800
Oh, a hundred percent.

574
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:11,800
All bald men are sus.

575
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:12,800
I'm throwing that out on record.

576
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:13,800
Damn.

577
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:14,800
It's savage.

578
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:15,800
That's a bold statement.

579
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:16,800
Oh man.

580
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:17,800
Pitbull.

581
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:18,800
Okay.

582
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:25,600
I feel like you can't just write off all bald people like that, but I will agree.

583
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:29,800
I will agree that they're either awful or like, chef's kiss.

584
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:30,800
Yeah.

585
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,800
There's no need.

586
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,800
There's no mid.

587
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:35,800
Yeah.

588
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:41,160
So you're like, you can't just stereotype them all like that, but I mostly agree.

589
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:42,160
That's literally what you just said.

590
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,520
I 50% agree with you.

591
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:50,240
The other 50% knows that the other half of the bald guys are pretty chill.

592
00:41:50,240 --> 00:41:51,600
I wouldn't agree with that.

593
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:52,600
For sure.

594
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:56,440
In my experience, most bald dudes are sus.

595
00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:01,440
I'll go with most or half batting average isn't good.

596
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:02,440
We'll put it that way.

597
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:03,440
Fair.

598
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:09,840
Rob, I feel like you can't give me this next question because your name was so good.

599
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:10,840
Okay.

600
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:11,840
All right.

601
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:12,840
I'll do the question.

602
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,200
Just don't get too fucking excited.

603
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:18,600
You just make sure you introduce yourself.

604
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,880
You've been around for quite some time here.

605
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,080
You were probably around during the MySpace era.

606
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:29,200
I assume did you during that time have a cringy MySpace screen name?

607
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:30,420
I did not.

608
00:42:30,420 --> 00:42:37,200
And that's because I grew up in a household where my mother was very strict about internet

609
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:38,200
use.

610
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,440
So I kind of missed the whole MySpace phase.

611
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:46,800
And then in college when it was like way outdated, I tried to like make one just like for fun.

612
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:50,400
But yeah, I totally missed the whole boat on MySpace.

613
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,440
I joined with like Facebook when I was a teenager.

614
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:57,440
Oh, so you never had no like cringy scene nickname or anything?

615
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:58,440
No, never.

616
00:42:58,440 --> 00:42:59,440
Damn.

617
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,880
Have you seen pics or anything like?

618
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,040
Probably pics that are probably on my Facebook for sure.

619
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:09,680
But yeah, but no, no MySpace for me.

620
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:10,680
Okay.

621
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:16,160
Yeah, Rob did not miss out on that era of the internet.

622
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,640
Yeah, you're active, active participant for that.

623
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:24,280
Bell just wants me to say again on record that I jokingly had the nickname Robbie soft

624
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:25,280
mosh.

625
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,920
Ooh, sounds bad.

626
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,280
Everyone used to, you know, like, oh, sick mosh, hard mosh and stay brutal and all that

627
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:33,280
shit.

628
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:34,280
But like I listen to a lot of emo shit.

629
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:38,240
So I thought softly moshing was funny and it still is.

630
00:43:38,240 --> 00:43:39,240
I stand by it.

631
00:43:39,240 --> 00:43:40,240
It's a funny name.

632
00:43:40,240 --> 00:43:42,160
Is that a name you coined yourself?

633
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:43,160
Like you gave that to yourself?

634
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:44,160
I did.

635
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:45,160
And that's what makes it even cringy.

636
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:46,160
That's amazing.

637
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:51,240
And that's why Bell's Bell's just been ecstatic about that since she learned it.

638
00:43:51,240 --> 00:43:52,240
That's amazing.

639
00:43:52,240 --> 00:43:56,360
So it was like 800 nicknames.

640
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,320
So I don't know what she's talking about.

641
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:02,680
Hey, I at least I didn't give any of them to myself.

642
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:03,680
I will say that.

643
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:04,680
There you go.

644
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,760
It was a different time.

645
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:07,760
You weren't there.

646
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:08,760
Okay.

647
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,640
You weren't there for it.

648
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:11,880
I didn't have to be.

649
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,560
I know.

650
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:19,160
So what was your album of the year for 2022?

651
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:25,280
When I was thinking about this, I feel like all of my favorite releases when I like look

652
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,400
back, they're actually from 2021, which is funny.

653
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,280
But I feel like for 20 years.

654
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:31,280
Yeah.

655
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:35,080
2021 was like a really good year for music.

656
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:41,600
But for 22, I'm going to do memory theater, a squalor grind.

657
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:45,840
Yeah, there was some there was some good grind in 2022.

658
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:46,840
Was no loss.

659
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:47,840
Was that last year?

660
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,680
Or was that this year?

661
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:52,880
Every time I think I'm like, oh, this came out in 22.

662
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,040
I like look it up and it's from 21.

663
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:56,880
So I'm like, I don't even know.

664
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:57,880
Every time.

665
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,600
Yeah, I don't know why that's in my brain.

666
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:09,400
But if you could give the world a gift, what would it be and the why?

667
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:12,320
Man, this is like such a pageant question.

668
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:18,680
I feel like I should more ready for this world peace.

669
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:19,680
I don't know.

670
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:21,680
I'm going to go world peace.

671
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:22,680
Yeah.

672
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:24,720
Let's do that.

673
00:45:24,720 --> 00:45:27,440
I feel like you definitely win with that answer.

674
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:31,640
Yeah, the classic.

675
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:35,920
What's the next big goal or accomplishment you want to reach as a band like a big venue

676
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:40,720
you want to play or festival you've always dreamed of playing any goal or milestone you

677
00:45:40,720 --> 00:45:43,280
want to accomplish for your future?

678
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:49,680
We've actually got some cool fest lineup for this year that I can't say yet because they

679
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:50,880
haven't been announced.

680
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:59,160
But we also really want to play Obscene Extreme in it's like in the Czech Republic.

681
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,880
So we're hoping for that for 2024.

682
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,280
I mean, we have like no no nothing in the works.

683
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,440
It's just like a dream that we're hoping to achieve.

684
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:13,440
We're definitely going to be doing Europe in 24, but don't know about that fest.

685
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:19,160
But there's just a lot of really good fest in Europe to that will be amazing and can't

686
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:20,360
wait to get over there.

687
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,400
That's like a big milestone to just play internationally.

688
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,120
Yeah, that's super cool.

689
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,000
That is sick.

690
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,600
And if I hit pause on the recording, can you tell us what's what's coming up that hasn't

691
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:32,600
been announced yet?

692
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:33,600
I don't know.

693
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:34,600
I don't know.

694
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,640
I feel like I'd have to check with our agent.

695
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:38,640
Oh, shit.

696
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:39,720
You guys have an agent?

697
00:46:39,720 --> 00:46:40,720
We just got one.

698
00:46:40,720 --> 00:46:41,720
Yeah.

699
00:46:41,720 --> 00:46:42,720
Oh, congrats.

700
00:46:42,720 --> 00:46:43,720
Fancy.

701
00:46:43,720 --> 00:46:44,720
Big timers.

702
00:46:44,720 --> 00:46:45,720
Big time.

703
00:46:45,720 --> 00:46:48,720
I wouldn't go that far.

704
00:46:48,720 --> 00:46:51,840
But you know, World Tour coming up.

705
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,200
Yeah, World Tour.

706
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:57,720
Yeah, we just got a an agent for US and for Europe.

707
00:46:57,720 --> 00:47:00,080
So it's so we definitely will be doing Europe.

708
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,720
It's just a matter of putting that in motion.

709
00:47:03,720 --> 00:47:06,120
Is it the same agent or do you have one per country?

710
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,640
Yeah, it's two different agents.

711
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:09,640
That's pretty sweet.

712
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:15,840
Yeah, I find that most US agents like there's usually different agents for overseas.

713
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:23,920
Yeah, it would have been crazy if it was a kind of yeah, one one very vast area to cover.

714
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:24,920
Right.

715
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:25,920
All of it.

716
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:26,920
Yeah.

717
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:27,920
Sick, though.

718
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:28,920
Congrats.

719
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:29,920
Thank you.

720
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:35,720
So what's new for the band coming up this year?

721
00:47:35,720 --> 00:47:42,360
So we're really hoping to do a West Coast tour more towards the end of the year because

722
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:46,560
we still have not gone to the West Coast yet.

723
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:50,040
And then we're working on our first full length right now.

724
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:54,400
We are hopefully going to be wrapping it up either this month or next.

725
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:58,640
So that'll be released maybe later this year, maybe early next year.

726
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:04,680
Just kind of depending.

727
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:08,520
And then when you get into Canada, you really want to go to Canada.

728
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:09,520
I don't know yet.

729
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:12,000
We have you actually most bands don't.

730
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:13,000
Cool.

731
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:20,520
We we actually got a possible chance to do Canada, but it was like a week after it would

732
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:21,520
have been now.

733
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:25,200
So like right after we got back from this last tour or so.

734
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:26,200
Oh, shit.

735
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:27,200
Yeah.

736
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:28,200
Weren't able to do it.

737
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:34,800
So we so we all got sick at the end of tour and our drummer got really sick.

738
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,080
He's actually been in ICU for over a week.

739
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:38,840
Holy fuck from bronchitis.

740
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:39,840
Yeah.

741
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:43,520
So like he's just been having a really hard time breathing.

742
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,920
So they had to like put him on oxygen.

743
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:46,920
Holy shit.

744
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,280
It like hit him really hard.

745
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,120
And he's he's a lot better now.

746
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,440
He should be like discharged either today or tomorrow.

747
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:55,440
Oh, that's good.

748
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,840
But it's been like a ride for him.

749
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:01,680
So it's really good that we didn't do that because we would have had to like cancel anyway.

750
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:02,680
Yeah.

751
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:04,240
You don't want to come here sick.

752
00:49:04,240 --> 00:49:05,720
The weather's not even nice right now.

753
00:49:05,720 --> 00:49:07,520
It's just like you come here sick.

754
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:09,320
It's like overcast, not helping anything.

755
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,200
Yeah, that's no one wants that.

756
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:12,200
No shit.

757
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,680
Well, I'm glad I'm glad your drummer's getting out and recovering.

758
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:16,680
Yeah.

759
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:17,680
Yeah.

760
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:18,680
Thank God.

761
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,200
It was scary for a minute.

762
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:22,200
Damn.

763
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:23,680
Yeah, that's stressful.

764
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:24,680
Yeah.

765
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:28,240
He must have had a hell of a week.

766
00:49:28,240 --> 00:49:29,240
Yeah.

767
00:49:29,240 --> 00:49:33,560
Yeah, it was it was crazy just like coming back and then because we were all sick at

768
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,280
the end.

769
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,680
We didn't know it was like that that dire.

770
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:43,480
So he like we got back and then the next day he went to the ICU.

771
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:50,280
Damn, a good drummer is hard to find to like that would be a dark joke.

772
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,680
But like, seriously, it's true.

773
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:53,920
Like, yeah.

774
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:55,520
We were very lucky to have him.

775
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:59,920
So thank God that he's on the mend.

776
00:49:59,920 --> 00:50:03,560
I can't believe you haven't been to the West Coast yet.

777
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:04,840
I know it's crazy.

778
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,320
Like we keep getting these opportunities on the East Coast.

779
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:11,880
So we keep doing East Coast tours, but it's like we're like desperate to get out on the

780
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:12,880
West Coast.

781
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:17,400
Yeah, that'd be super fun.

782
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,080
Yeah, it'll definitely happen.

783
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:23,080
Hopefully end of the year.

784
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:25,040
Well, any.

785
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:28,160
No, you got to go for it.

786
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:29,160
Go for it.

787
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:33,800
I was just going to say any last shout outs and such.

788
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,720
So if you had a question, go for it.

789
00:50:36,720 --> 00:50:41,400
No, I was just going to say, give me a shout when when you do get over to Canada.

790
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:45,200
Hopefully I can help you guys out, get some shows if you're looking to book and stuff.

791
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:48,880
Yeah, I definitely say I know I know promoters around here, obviously.

792
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:50,520
So hell yeah.

793
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:55,600
We'd be happy to have you if you come to Ontario, which would be nice.

794
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:56,600
Yeah.

795
00:50:56,600 --> 00:51:02,800
Well, any last shout outs, plugs or causes you want to speak on anything you want to

796
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:03,800
talk about?

797
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:10,480
Well, we don't have any new music out at the moment, so I don't really have anything to

798
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,920
plug in that respect.

799
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:16,720
But we've got our music on Bandcamp and Spotify.

800
00:51:16,720 --> 00:51:20,640
Our Instagram is Brat underscore band.

801
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:25,480
Think it's the same for TikTok and Twitter.

802
00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:31,440
We're not super active on that, but that's really all the all the plugs I got on my end.

803
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:35,360
Well, thanks so much for coming on the show.

804
00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:40,000
It's been an absolute pleasure and we hope to have you back on again in the future.

805
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:41,000
Yeah.

806
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:42,000
Thank you guys so much.

807
00:51:42,000 --> 00:52:00,720
All right.

808
00:52:00,720 --> 00:52:10,960
Right.

809
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:49,960
Just die, the war, report

810
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:56,960
I can't take my time, think again

811
00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:21,960
I can't take this life, think again

812
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:51,960
Just die

813
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:01,960
Just die

