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The horror was absolutely unmatched when the

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Ottomans came across what they thought was trees

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from afar. And as they drew closer, they realized

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they were not trees. They were on wooden spikes.

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I do my best to fact check everything I share

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but please don't take any action based on the

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information here and definitely don't quote me

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in your dissertation. Also, some viewer discretion

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is advised. Some stories may include graphic

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or potentially triggering content so please take

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care when listening. And if I laugh at any point,

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just know it's never at the history or the people

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involved. Sometimes I just get a little awkward

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or the drama is too wild not. Hello, everyone.

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It's me, Elsie Mae, coming at you with another

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Halloween episode. Third out of four, baby. When

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I was a child, me and my family were at a quiz

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night. I remember a question coming up, right?

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And it was, who was the real Dracula? And I was

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like, Dracula is in The Vampire. There was a

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real one? There was a real Dracula? What? That's

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weird. But my little brain at the time was thinking...

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What the heli? Like there's a real vampire? And

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you know it's just something that's always interested

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me like who was that man and why was he called

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Dracula? Did he actually drink blood? Would sunlight

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actually hurt him and like burn him? Was he actually

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like low -key allergic to garlic? What was the

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deal with him? So I thought we could explore

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that today because the truth is shocking. Shocking.

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If you are into gruesome history, this is the

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story for you. It turns out that the truth is

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way more twisted and bloody and fascinating than

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any of those spooky myths. Vlad III, the man

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behind the legend of Dracula, wasn't a supernatural

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creature. He was a Walachian prince. a son of

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political chaos and one of history's most terrifying

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rulers. Today we're going to unpack his life,

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his reign and why the world remembers him as

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Vlad the Impaler. So let's go, chapter one. My

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iPad's acting up and I can't scroll on it. Excuse

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me. Okay, so where our story is set. I need to

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give you some background information because

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we are talking about the mid 15th century, okay?

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It is around the 1450s and the 1460s and Europe

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was a little bit chaotic. The Ottoman Empire

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was expanding fast and Hungary was desperately

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trying to hold the line and right in between

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them was a place called Wallachia. and it was

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caught right in the middle of those two empires,

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Hungary and the Ottoman Empire, which is modern

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day Romania. So that is where our story is set

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for today. and it's to be noted that Hungary

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and the Ottoman Empire were always at each other's

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throats. So that is a bit of background information

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there. So Vlad was born in 1431 and when he was

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a child he was sent to live with the Ottomans,

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him and his brother. They keep the sons hostage

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so that the dad, the ruler of Wallachia, won't

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do anything. not an ideal situation because it

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meant that Vlad grew up being completely exposed

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to a lot of terrible things. He was watching

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executions, he was watching military drills and

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displays of cruelty. Somewhere in all that darkness

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he learnt that fear really controls people far

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better than kindness ever does. And what made

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it worse is that he actually had a brother and

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his brother was favoured over him. I know, it's

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a bit sucky. He was treated well, like his brother

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was treated well, and Vlad was rejected, ignored,

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isolated, and I guess he was like beaten sometimes

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for his behavior. He saw firsthand that politics

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was not personal and betrayal, cruelty and ambition

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would go way further than even family. I know.

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So that was at the Ottoman Empire. On the other

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hand, his dad was kind of trying to play for

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two sides. He was backing Crusaders one moment

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and then siding with the Ottomans the next. And

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by the time that Vlad finally made it home, he

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was not the same boy that left, as you can probably

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imagine. Then tragedy struck. Vlad's father was

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murdered. He was murdered by the rivals. His

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older brother was blinded with a red -hot poker

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and then buried alive. So yeah, that's kind of

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where the Vlad that we know. starts to take shape.

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And I guess he swore that he would have revenge

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on those very people that did that to his family.

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So he went to work to get that throne, honey.

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So chapter two, we have fighting for the throne.

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So when he was 17 and got the worst news that

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he could possibly get that his father and his

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brother were killed, he swore revenge. But Vlad

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didn't rush in blindly. Oh no. He returned to

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Wallachia with Turkish forces behind him. He

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was like, I got them to back me up, so move out

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my way. But his enemies? Did they fight back?

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No. He was quite lucky. He got them when they

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were distracted with something. I guess they're

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just, you know, usual political games. I guess

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they kind of underestimated him because they

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thought he was just a scared little kid. But

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no. He walked straight in. He got that throne.

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He was bold, cunning, shocking. This boy! was

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not to be underestimated. But just to add to

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the drama, it turns out his dad's not dead. I

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know, that was quite an unexpected plot twist.

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So I guess basically his dad turns up again and

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is like, son, what you doing? That's my throne.

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Like, obviously, guys, this is heavily oversimplified

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because there's chaos. Vlad's kind of standing

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there ready to rule. His dad just came back.

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So anyway, Vlad has to leave. He's exiled. Okay.

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And he goes to live somewhere else. Chapter three,

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exile and return. So after being overthrown,

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Vlad spent plenty years in exile. He was going

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between Hungary, Moldova and nearby regions.

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He built alliances. He was learning military

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strategy and he was sharpening his political

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cunning. He found three whole years, I guess,

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of peace when he lived with his cousin and his

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uncle in Moldova. Now, during my research, I

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seen that these were allegedly like some of the

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happiest years of his life. But again, quite

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dramatic. All that came to a sudden halt when

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his uncle was assassinated and threw the region

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into chaos. OK, so just to let you guys know,

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I need to be slightly quieter because of this

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situation. OK, just letting you know this won't

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be like a regular thing. Some people in my house

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are sleeping and I have to be cautious. Guys,

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it's just the reality of having a home studio.

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Like, come on. But the show must go on, baby.

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So Vlad and his cousin, his cousin was called

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Stephen, by the way, Stephen the Great of Moldova.

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They were running away from a guy called, I might

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say this wrong, so please forgive me, but John

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Hoonadi. We're going to go with that. And yeah,

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they were hiding from him. I guess it was like

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a hide and seek kind of situation, but deadly.

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And yeah, he was a powerful Hungarian commander.

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So one wrong move. And it was over. I would like

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to point out now, I think I've been saying Wallachia

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wrong. I think I've been saying Wallachia. I

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am so deeply sorry. I'm not very good at pronouncing

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things. I do look up things before I say them.

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And for some reason in my head, I thought the

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W was pronounced a V. So I'm so sorry about that.

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But anyway, Vlad was a clever cookie. Okay, and

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he knew that he wanted Valakia back and to be

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honest he knew that he'd have to play with fire

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to do it So he did he started making deals with

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the people who murdered his father Like girl

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Well, they were tied to his father's murder.

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There was no forgiveness there. It was just strategy.

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It was business babe fool business. So I'm not

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going to lie to you guys. The politics of this

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is super confusing to understand. So I'm going

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to keep it as simplified as I possibly can. It's

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going to be oversimplified. So just be aware

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of that. But once Vlad had struck the right alliances,

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he went in there and he took the throne. Thank

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you very much. He went in there, walked his little

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booty in there. and took back his throne. Thank

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you very much. But the threats remained. And

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the Ottomans, do you remember them? Remember

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the Ottomans? Yeah, well they're back. And the

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Empire, who once held him captive, because remember

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at the start he was sent away to live with the

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Ottomans as like an insurance policy. All that

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coming back to you now. They were still looming.

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And this is the, this is the gruesome bit. I'm

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not gonna lie to you. So, if you don't like gruesome

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stuff, you may as well skip forward. The thing

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is, in the 15th century, things were really gruesome.

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I think it was in Britain, people put, you know,

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enemies' heads on spikes to keep them out. You

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had people boiling people. It was crazy, okay?

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So, Vlad had watched the Ottomans impale their

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prisoners, and it was outside the city walls.

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However, He decided to take it up a notch. Well,

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he actually decided to take it up several notches,

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but we'll get to that. I guess allegedly what

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Vlad did was he made an example from a young

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boyar and a boyar, just to put that in there,

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was like a Lando owner or a rich noble and he

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made an example out of a young boyar. Here is

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the really gruesome bit, because what would happen

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is they would sharpen wooden spikes. Oh man,

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you really don't know. You don't want to know

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what they do with the spikes, but I'm going to

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tell you anyway. So they would impale people

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and put them outside of the city walls to keep

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like enemies away, to show them not to mess with

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us, to show an example, don't disobey. But what

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they would do is they would... sharpen the wooden

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spikes, impale the victims allegedly through

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the anus. I'm just going to say the anus still

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alive. And these victims would be alive on the

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stick as as they are impaled. And it is a very

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slow. gruesome death because allegedly they could

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stay alive for a few days. So they'd stay alive,

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dying on a stick, on a very sharp wooden spike,

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slowly tearing their insides apart. Then came

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the infamous boyar dinner. And the nobles who,

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as I mentioned earlier, some were linked to Vlad's

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father's murder, they thought it was in the past,

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they'd all sorted it. However, Vlad had not forgotten.

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and it got very dramatic very quickly. Vlad separated

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the victims from their families and some were

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just impaled immediately but others were forced

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to carry heavy bricks up a mountain to rebuild

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his castle. Their clothes would tear and they'd

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be hanging off their bodies and their bodies

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would be pushed to a level of exhaustion that

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they would collapse. and they would just perish.

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That revenge was brutal. But it was also strategy

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and power. The message was received. Defy Vlad

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and that could be your fate. You could just end

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up like all of them. Maybe not you, maybe your

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family, maybe your neighbour. You know, you never

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know who you're going to see murdered next. What

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a terrifying concept. So chapter four, the reign

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of terror. So Vlad took Wallachia back in 1456

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and he was determined to crush the boyars. This

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guy was not messing around, okay? You did not

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want to be on the bad side of Vlad. Let me tell

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you that. His first moves, impale the unfaithful,

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replace almost all of his advisors apart from

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two. and he introduced a terrifying system. So

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thieves beheaded, unfaithful wives skinned alive,

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lazy peasants impaled, and military shrinkers

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were allegedly boiled alive. And there was another

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gruesome story that I came across that really

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Again, shows the depth of Vlad's brutal ways.

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I just don't have words for this. Like, I actually

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am. It's an example of how brutal he was. Legend

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has it that Vlad hosted a banquet for beggars.

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And as everyone was eating and drinking and I

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guess just enjoying the banquet, he locked the

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doors and set on fire. And I guess he did this

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because he just didn't want those people in his

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little society or in his society that he had.

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And there was another tale I came across where

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two men refused to take off their turbans because

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of religious beliefs. I guess Vlad thought, okay,

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then you're never taking them off. And allegedly,

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Vlad nailed the turbans to their skull. He didn't

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stop there. 41 merchants rounded up. 300 Saxons

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burned and an attack on Brasov. There was a man

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called the Pretender and he tried to take the

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throne and of course this didn't end well for

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him because Vlad allegedly forced the man to

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watch his own grave being dug in front of him.

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They gave him a burial ceremony while he was

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still alive. He was watching his own funeral

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and then he was beheaded. His head dropped into

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the grave that was just dug right in front of

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him while he was alive. By three years into his

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second reign, Vlad had created a climate of fear.

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No one dared to cross him. So here is an interesting

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piece, because this is where some conflict arises.

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So remember how Vlad had a brother called Radu?

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I guess in 1462, Radu led 60 to 70 ,000 Ottoman

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troops with 120 cannons, roughly. into Wallachia.

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Now, Vlad didn't really have the same amount

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of numbers in this region. He had 10 ,000 soldiers

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and peasants. So it didn't really. Bit of a power

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imbalance there. I'm just going to I'm just going

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to say what we're all thinking, OK? I'm just

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going to say what we're all thinking. So Vlad

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knew that he wouldn't win directly. It was good.

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He knew that that wasn't going to happen. So

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he ordered a strategic retreat into the mountains.

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We're getting out of here. We're going to. We're

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going to get out of here. We're going to hide

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in a mountain for a bit. Wait till this blows

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over. Come back. It's going to be fine. So while

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they're retreating to the mountains, he is. burning

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his paths. He's poisoning water sources so they

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can't just come in and start living in in this

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area. And I guess allegedly they would ambush

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the enemy and then steal some of their soldiers

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as in like take some of their soldiers. I guess

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it's just like they just took them. The horror

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was absolutely unmatched when the Ottomans came

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across what they thought was trees from afar

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and as they drew closer they realized they were

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not trees. They were decaying humans on wooden

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spikes. Everyone. It was women, children, men,

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some soldiers that were originally from the Ottoman

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group who were stolen when they got ambushed.

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They were impaled and displayed. Now the psychological

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terror clearly worked, but Vlad still had to

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flee. And in this time, Radu, his brother, seized

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the throne. Vlad was betrayed and he was imprisoned

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for 14 years. It's a pretty long time. So he's

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had two reigns and now he's in prison. But not

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for long because however in exile again Vlad

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started to gain some followers He rebuilt the

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support and eventually Reconnected with his cousin

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Stephen remember him Stevie by the mid to late

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1470s Vlad was back on the throne How did you

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do that He basically... Guys, I don't know. I

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don't know how he did that, but he managed. He

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managed somehow. He completed a lifetime of alliances

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and betrayals and a full circle of power plays.

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I do not know how he did that, but that was it.

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That was just... He was back on the throne. Third

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reign, here we go! But it only lasted two months.

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But by then, he was a legend. As a ruthless,

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clever, terrifying ruler. And that was cemented.

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That was a fact. People were terrified. Vlad's

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lifetime of strategy, revenge and terror made

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him a national hero in Romania and an inspiration

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for Dracula worldwide. And I know, I was a bit

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confused when I heard that too. I was like, okay,

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so where are we getting the vampire in this?

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I thought we were learning about Dracula today.

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But this is, this is the guide that it's based

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off of. Vlad's legacy, chapter six. I guess there

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was like a pretty big jump there because some

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information is so hard to find out, like. Some

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of this, this is obviously really really old

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information, so sometimes it gets a little confusing

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and there's sometimes grey areas, gaps, discussions,

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debates. Vlad's final battle, there's kind of

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a huge question mark to that. Defeated against

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the Ottomans. The details of his death, murky.

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Confusing. not really there. No one really knows

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what happened. And that's why the legends grew.

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Because honestly, where people don't know stuff

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and rumors, guys, people will make up stuff and

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they'll exaggerate. But sometimes there's no

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smoke without fire. So how do we really know

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what's happened? You know? So altogether, Vlad

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had less than seven years on the throne. I know.

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and Vlad was infamous across Europe. And these

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stories that I'm telling you just now, they became

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a breeding ground for horror literature. And,

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you know, writers would exaggerate his deeds

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and they, I guess, created a figure perfect for

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ghost stories and gothic legends. Enter Dracula!

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But here's the thing, and this got me too, because

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Vlad Never a vampire. What? Yeah. So, you know

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Dracula, right? Obviously. I mean, you might

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not have read it. I've not read it, but I've

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definitely heard of it. You know, Hotel Transylvania

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and stuff like that. Also, I feel like you grow

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up knowing about vampires. It's just something

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that, you know, you come out of the womb knowing

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about. Dracula was written in 1897 by a guy called

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Bram Stoker. He was Irish. The connections came

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centuries later. It turns out that Stoker actually

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knew very little about Romania and the descriptions

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didn't really match Vlad's life. Like, at all.

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This is another connection. Dracula is Wallachian

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for Son of Dracul or Devil. Not bloodsucker.

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Not a vampire. I know! I'm so confused! By the

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way, let me just throw this out there. Stoker

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was almost going to call his book something completely

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different. He wasn't even going to call it Dracula.

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Vlad just fit the legend. He liked it. He was

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like, I want Vlad! It's a great name for a vampire.

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So today, Vlad's story is... a little mix of

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fact, a little mix of myth, and a big helping

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of horror. Some see him as a ruthless defender,

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and others see him as a man obsessed with revenge

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and power. How many people did he actually kill?

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That's the real question. And the truth is, nobody

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knows. That is a tale lost in history. Nobody

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actually knows how many people, but his reputation

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of terror has just completely outlived him. I

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mean, it's completely outlived him. Hundreds

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and hundreds of years, are you joking? And it's

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made him a very fascinating figure in history.

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So yeah, that concludes today's story. What do

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you think? Had you ever heard of this person

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before? I am Elsie May. Thank you so much for

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watching. Please enjoy the rest of your day.

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If you enjoyed the podcast, please tell your

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you next Wednesday. Bye bye! See ya!
