WEBVTT 00:00:15.630 --> 00:00:18.190 Welcome to Fandom Shmandom, the fandom podcast 00:00:18.190 --> 00:00:21.370 that covers everything you love and more. I'm 00:00:21.370 --> 00:00:26.649 Sierra Obermark. And I am Sam Williams. Today's 00:00:26.649 --> 00:00:31.429 episode, we will be cringingly crying about the 00:00:31.429 --> 00:00:34.950 simultaneous episodes of Clone Wars that correspond 00:00:34.950 --> 00:00:38.670 with Episode 3, Revenge of the Sith. This will 00:00:38.670 --> 00:00:43.009 be a little bit of a different mini viewing views 00:00:43.009 --> 00:00:46.939 because of the unique... nature of these episodes. 00:00:48.460 --> 00:00:52.119 Without further ado, we will, as Roger Smith 00:00:52.119 --> 00:00:55.679 says, dive on in. So get up to 88 because it 00:00:55.679 --> 00:01:01.479 is time to travel back to our story recap. Ahsoka 00:01:01.479 --> 00:01:03.700 has been on a mission to provide two sisters 00:01:03.700 --> 00:01:07.560 with a chance to reconnect, but now the war is 00:01:07.560 --> 00:01:11.280 ending. She's overheard that Maul is on Mandalore, 00:01:11.299 --> 00:01:14.200 and she and the Jedi are worried about Maul rising 00:01:14.200 --> 00:01:17.879 to power as soon as the war ends. With Palpatine 00:01:17.879 --> 00:01:20.980 captured by Grievous and Dooku, Anakin and Obi 00:01:20.980 --> 00:01:23.680 -Wan cannot pursue Maul and the Mandy planet 00:01:23.680 --> 00:01:27.200 storyline. So Anakin breaks the 501st in half, 00:01:27.379 --> 00:01:30.620 promotes Rex to commander. Well done! Excellent 00:01:30.620 --> 00:01:33.760 job, Commander Rex. And he assigns Ahsoka as 00:01:33.760 --> 00:01:37.719 a special advisor, so Citizen, as Mace calls 00:01:37.719 --> 00:01:42.480 her, Ahsoka, can join in the fun. Maul doesn't 00:01:42.480 --> 00:01:45.439 expect Ahsoka and underestimates her, leading 00:01:45.439 --> 00:01:48.159 to an incredible monologue and fight where Maul 00:01:48.159 --> 00:01:50.799 is trapped and imprisoned. After dropping many 00:01:50.799 --> 00:01:54.640 hints about Order 66, Maul senses it is close, 00:01:54.819 --> 00:01:58.079 and lo and behold, he and Ahsoka feel it. The 00:01:58.079 --> 00:02:02.140 clones turn on Citizen Ahsoka, all except Rex. 00:02:02.739 --> 00:02:06.000 Ahsoka frees Maul as a distraction. She and Rex 00:02:06.000 --> 00:02:08.879 fight their way out, but oops! Maul takes the 00:02:08.879 --> 00:02:11.900 only ship, and Rex and Ahsoka survive a crashing 00:02:11.900 --> 00:02:16.159 spaceship on a snowy planet. After marking a 00:02:16.159 --> 00:02:19.319 grave for all of her 501st comrades, Ahsoka and 00:02:19.319 --> 00:02:23.740 Rex leave. Sometime later, Vader investigates. 00:02:24.270 --> 00:02:27.229 leaving us with a chilling scene of black -cloaked 00:02:27.229 --> 00:02:31.250 Vader almost mourning his past life in the white 00:02:31.250 --> 00:02:34.289 snow. Keep your finger on the pause button and 00:02:34.289 --> 00:02:37.069 rewind that tape. It's time for the prestige 00:02:37.069 --> 00:02:41.590 category. What did we notice on this watch through? 00:02:41.810 --> 00:02:47.229 I cried through like half of this. I'm only partially 00:02:47.229 --> 00:02:50.389 joking. There were a number of times that I was 00:02:50.389 --> 00:02:54.419 genuinely tearing up. One specific at the beginning, 00:02:54.699 --> 00:02:58.840 one very meaningful one in the middle. And I 00:02:58.840 --> 00:03:01.900 wanted to yell at Rex at one point, because if 00:03:01.900 --> 00:03:04.180 you cry, then I'm going to cry. And I've had 00:03:04.180 --> 00:03:08.680 enough crying. I am already crying enough in 00:03:08.680 --> 00:03:12.439 my life. I don't need this from you. I watch 00:03:12.439 --> 00:03:21.300 TV to escape. But that is how well I think that. 00:03:21.689 --> 00:03:26.710 This really pulls on those relationships that 00:03:26.710 --> 00:03:28.689 these characters have had throughout Clone Wars, 00:03:28.930 --> 00:03:31.650 throughout Star Wars prequels in general. So 00:03:31.650 --> 00:03:35.090 I think it's very well done. On to plot points 00:03:35.090 --> 00:03:38.729 that I'm really kind of honing in here. Obi -Wan 00:03:38.729 --> 00:03:42.909 is no longer the only one on Maul's revenge list, 00:03:43.169 --> 00:03:46.310 which I feel like is very key to Maul's character 00:03:46.310 --> 00:03:52.580 in general. And he also... he being Maul, now 00:03:52.580 --> 00:03:58.099 wants Sidious to lose his apprentice in the same 00:03:58.099 --> 00:04:02.520 way that Maul lost Savage. So now Maul is after 00:04:02.520 --> 00:04:05.560 Anakin as well, because he knows that Anakin 00:04:05.560 --> 00:04:10.139 is set to be Sidious's apprentice. Which is like, 00:04:10.280 --> 00:04:13.080 hey man, when'd you figure out that information? 00:04:14.979 --> 00:04:19.490 It's a little... It's a little off page. It is 00:04:19.490 --> 00:04:21.769 a little off page. I also think it's funny that 00:04:21.769 --> 00:04:25.170 like in the condo that is Maul's revenge, it 00:04:25.170 --> 00:04:28.209 is funny that he built a little like, like he 00:04:28.209 --> 00:04:30.050 annexed a little bit of somebody else's condo 00:04:30.050 --> 00:04:32.889 right next to him to fill with a closet of Palpatine 00:04:32.889 --> 00:04:38.170 revenge line. It's like walking into a shrine 00:04:38.170 --> 00:04:40.110 of Obi -Wan and off to the right is a little 00:04:40.110 --> 00:04:44.850 picture of Sidious. I think it's really fascinating. 00:04:45.689 --> 00:04:48.410 Yes, it absolutely does. I think it's fascinating 00:04:48.410 --> 00:04:50.910 that Maul is super aware that Anakin is key to 00:04:50.910 --> 00:04:53.449 all this. Like, he literally, in a very Dooku 00:04:53.449 --> 00:04:55.550 way, where in Attack of the Clones, Dooku's like, 00:04:55.670 --> 00:04:58.569 by the way, here's the whole plan. Why are you 00:04:58.569 --> 00:05:00.250 telling me to this like a Bond villain? Well, 00:05:00.389 --> 00:05:07.029 I was a Bond villain. Says Christopher Lee. But 00:05:07.029 --> 00:05:11.879 Maul here is also kind of like... Yes, Anakin. 00:05:12.139 --> 00:05:13.680 And Ahsoka's like, what does Anakin have to do 00:05:13.680 --> 00:05:15.480 with any of this? And he's like, he has to do 00:05:15.480 --> 00:05:20.439 with everything. It's crazy. It's super cool. 00:05:20.800 --> 00:05:24.779 Really fun. Creates a chilling moment for Ahsoka 00:05:24.779 --> 00:05:26.939 that even though we know it, I feel like really 00:05:26.939 --> 00:05:29.060 works in a way that a lot of prequels don't. 00:05:29.120 --> 00:05:30.779 Where it's like, I know who's living and who's 00:05:30.779 --> 00:05:32.139 dying and I know what's going to happen. But 00:05:32.139 --> 00:05:34.839 this is a moment where it's like. Whoa, that's 00:05:34.839 --> 00:05:37.120 really cool. And I think that was a really super 00:05:37.120 --> 00:05:40.060 well done tone wise and getting the message across 00:05:40.060 --> 00:05:43.579 to the audience. Yeah, definitely. And I also 00:05:43.579 --> 00:05:47.279 find it interesting that, you know, Ahsoka obviously 00:05:47.279 --> 00:05:51.139 doesn't believe Maul when he says that Anakin 00:05:51.139 --> 00:05:53.600 is turned to the dark side and Anakin's the key 00:05:53.600 --> 00:05:55.779 to all this and et cetera, et cetera, even though 00:05:55.779 --> 00:06:01.240 Maul is 100 % correct. But her main concern with 00:06:01.240 --> 00:06:05.240 teaming up with Maul. to take down Sidious is 00:06:05.240 --> 00:06:08.040 that she thinks that Maul will rise up to take 00:06:08.040 --> 00:06:13.639 his place. And I, on kind of first blush, I go, 00:06:13.699 --> 00:06:15.800 oh, but that makes sense, right? Like, she doesn't 00:06:15.800 --> 00:06:19.240 want another villain coming in. He's clearly 00:06:19.240 --> 00:06:21.579 shown that he's very cunning, very intelligent, 00:06:21.639 --> 00:06:24.779 and he can work his way up in, you know, the 00:06:24.779 --> 00:06:28.920 ladder of the world. However, I feel like this 00:06:28.920 --> 00:06:32.360 isn't quite the valid concern. that she thinks 00:06:32.360 --> 00:06:36.279 it is. Because as much as Maul has all of that 00:06:36.279 --> 00:06:39.279 ability, and we've seen what he's able to do 00:06:39.279 --> 00:06:42.699 with Mandalore, he doesn't have nearly the amount 00:06:42.699 --> 00:06:46.339 of connections, plotting time, or ability to 00:06:46.339 --> 00:06:50.920 be as dangerous as Sidious. And so if they were 00:06:50.920 --> 00:06:53.920 to team up, take down Sidious, and then Maul 00:06:53.920 --> 00:06:57.040 was going to try to step into that place, I feel 00:06:57.040 --> 00:07:00.879 like it would be... Not easy, necessarily, because 00:07:00.879 --> 00:07:03.120 we've seen that Maul is fairly formidable, but 00:07:03.120 --> 00:07:05.240 it would definitely be easier than taking down 00:07:05.240 --> 00:07:10.920 Sidious for Ahsoka and company to take down Maul. 00:07:10.959 --> 00:07:13.500 One of the reasons is because they know who Maul 00:07:13.500 --> 00:07:15.980 is. Like, half of Sidious' success is due to 00:07:15.980 --> 00:07:18.879 the fact that he's sitting there as our pal Pateen 00:07:18.879 --> 00:07:22.980 going, and Mace Windu's right next to him going, 00:07:23.100 --> 00:07:28.129 what's funny, bud? Instead of being like, the 00:07:28.129 --> 00:07:30.329 dark side surrounds this Chancellor. We should 00:07:30.329 --> 00:07:34.629 do something about that. Yeah, I think it would 00:07:34.629 --> 00:07:38.350 be an easier take out. Although, I... Sorry, 00:07:38.449 --> 00:07:42.089 I'll give you your moment. I just... Mace's whole 00:07:42.089 --> 00:07:44.910 thing there just really kills me every time. 00:07:45.230 --> 00:07:49.839 This is specifically in Revenge. But... I sense 00:07:49.839 --> 00:07:51.939 a plot to destroy the Jedi. I'm just sitting 00:07:51.939 --> 00:07:55.779 there going, oh, you do, do you? Now you sense 00:07:55.779 --> 00:07:58.480 this? I forget what animated thing this is from 00:07:58.480 --> 00:08:05.439 where somebody goes, oh, do you? It makes me 00:08:05.439 --> 00:08:08.860 think of Dory with do ya, do ya, do ya. Yeah, 00:08:08.879 --> 00:08:12.319 absolutely. We should make a decision. Do you 00:08:12.319 --> 00:08:14.019 want that part kept or do you want to save it 00:08:14.019 --> 00:08:18.959 for revenge? I can say it twice. Okay. It just 00:08:18.959 --> 00:08:21.199 cracks me up. Well, because the next part is, 00:08:21.240 --> 00:08:24.939 the dark side surrounds the Chancellor. And I 00:08:24.939 --> 00:08:28.139 just go, you're just now sensing this? Not literally 00:08:28.139 --> 00:08:29.779 any other time you've been in the room with him, 00:08:29.800 --> 00:08:35.700 but just now? Just right now. But yes, that's 00:08:35.700 --> 00:08:39.700 a huge part of Palpatine slash Sidious' success, 00:08:39.940 --> 00:08:44.059 is he's been able to disguise himself as - Nobody 00:08:44.059 --> 00:08:48.169 recognizes his chin. Right. The lower half of 00:08:48.169 --> 00:08:52.370 his very recognizable face is completely unrecognizable. 00:08:52.889 --> 00:08:55.370 I don't know. It's like a Clark Kent situation 00:08:55.370 --> 00:08:58.509 where you're like, how could people not notice? 00:08:58.529 --> 00:09:01.289 But then Dolly Parton just takes off her wig 00:09:01.289 --> 00:09:03.330 and goes out in public and no one ever recognizes 00:09:03.330 --> 00:09:06.289 her. So, like, you know. Well, like, Daniel Radcliffe 00:09:06.289 --> 00:09:09.409 talks about how he flies around on New York subways 00:09:09.409 --> 00:09:11.769 all the time because he just wears, like, a medical 00:09:11.769 --> 00:09:15.009 mask. Yeah. And nobody recognized. So maybe we 00:09:15.009 --> 00:09:17.730 are just a bit stupider than we'd like to give 00:09:17.730 --> 00:09:20.350 ourselves credit for. That being said, with Ahsoka 00:09:20.350 --> 00:09:23.649 and Maul's part, I would rather have her go and 00:09:23.649 --> 00:09:26.190 try and take him down rather than not try and 00:09:26.190 --> 00:09:30.230 be wrong. So if we're going with best case of 00:09:30.230 --> 00:09:34.169 win -win, win -lose, lose -lose, I'm good with 00:09:34.169 --> 00:09:36.409 her going and doing this. Especially because 00:09:36.409 --> 00:09:39.110 it's the only way that citizen Ahsoka is allowed 00:09:39.110 --> 00:09:43.820 to go and do anything. I will also say that chemistry 00:09:43.820 --> 00:09:50.159 between Maul and Ahsoka is wildly good. So good. 00:09:50.559 --> 00:09:54.539 Like, their conversations, there is almost a... 00:09:54.539 --> 00:09:58.519 It's hard to describe, because it is not a sexual 00:09:58.519 --> 00:10:01.879 tension, but it is a magnetism between the two 00:10:01.879 --> 00:10:05.779 of them that is... That feels almost and could 00:10:05.779 --> 00:10:08.860 be misread as sexual in nature. There is an electricity 00:10:08.860 --> 00:10:10.960 between the two of them as characters that make 00:10:10.960 --> 00:10:14.120 me go, hey, can she be in the Maul show? Right. 00:10:15.600 --> 00:10:18.679 Please? This would be great. I would love to 00:10:18.679 --> 00:10:22.220 see them together. Because they balance each 00:10:22.220 --> 00:10:25.919 other out. They're able to interact as a tete 00:10:25.919 --> 00:10:29.220 -a -tete. And Maul has this hubris, but he has 00:10:29.220 --> 00:10:31.590 this begrudging. like, respect for her. It's 00:10:31.590 --> 00:10:34.490 almost very Han and Rey in that way. One of the 00:10:34.490 --> 00:10:36.330 reasons why Han and Rey in Force Awakens work 00:10:36.330 --> 00:10:39.250 so well is that Han is like, hey, kid, you're 00:10:39.250 --> 00:10:43.909 pretty good. And Maul does that, but also is 00:10:43.909 --> 00:10:46.570 seductive in his attempt to lure her to the dark 00:10:46.570 --> 00:10:50.490 side. Right. I think it's super interesting because 00:10:50.490 --> 00:10:55.629 while we get the very... kind of fun and amusing 00:10:55.629 --> 00:10:58.950 chemistry between Maul and Obi -Wan with their 00:10:58.950 --> 00:11:01.649 banter and their fighting back and forth, which 00:11:01.649 --> 00:11:05.990 is also kind of represented in... I feel like 00:11:05.990 --> 00:11:08.629 it's this middle ground, honestly, now that I'm 00:11:08.629 --> 00:11:10.990 kind of talking it through. I feel like Maul 00:11:10.990 --> 00:11:13.909 and Ahsoka is this middle ground between Maul 00:11:13.909 --> 00:11:16.669 and Obi -Wan and Obi -Wan and Ventress. Yeah, 00:11:16.690 --> 00:11:18.850 totally. Because Obi -Wan and Ventress definitely 00:11:18.850 --> 00:11:23.259 leans more towards that, like... Flirtatious 00:11:23.259 --> 00:11:27.340 side, which I think is is purposeful on both 00:11:27.340 --> 00:11:29.220 of their parts to try to throw each other off 00:11:29.220 --> 00:11:33.820 because both of them know that. No. But like 00:11:33.820 --> 00:11:36.179 just the fact that it's this, you know, Sith 00:11:36.179 --> 00:11:40.879 woman trying to tempt the the nice jet, the nice 00:11:40.879 --> 00:11:43.299 clean Jedi, I think she thinks is hilarious. 00:11:43.399 --> 00:11:48.120 So I think that it doesn't quite get that far 00:11:48.120 --> 00:11:51.019 in the flirtation, but they still have this. 00:11:51.759 --> 00:11:54.700 energy between them that i think really just 00:11:54.700 --> 00:11:57.059 comes from the fact that they're both very evenly 00:11:57.059 --> 00:12:01.820 matched in terms of not necessarily i mean ability 00:12:01.820 --> 00:12:07.059 but also their convictions and what they stand 00:12:07.059 --> 00:12:09.980 for not that they're opposite or the same but 00:12:09.980 --> 00:12:12.539 just how strong they are in their yeah totally 00:12:12.539 --> 00:12:16.220 you know ahsoka is very strong in her belief 00:12:16.220 --> 00:12:19.259 in the force and her conviction that the jedi 00:12:19.259 --> 00:12:24.039 life as it is is not right for her however the 00:12:24.039 --> 00:12:27.980 force and all of that really connects with her 00:12:27.980 --> 00:12:31.419 and who she is whereas maul is very much the 00:12:31.419 --> 00:12:35.179 like i'm going to take what i can from the force 00:12:35.179 --> 00:12:38.440 and use it for my own gain and that conviction 00:12:38.440 --> 00:12:41.860 of this is the way the force should be used in 00:12:41.860 --> 00:12:47.830 both cases is that polarizing effect that keeps 00:12:47.830 --> 00:12:51.090 them kind of coming together, but also bouncing 00:12:51.090 --> 00:12:53.690 off of each other. And it's very entertaining. 00:12:54.049 --> 00:12:57.809 Yeah, totally. So moving on from Maul and Ahsoka, 00:12:58.009 --> 00:13:01.429 we'll switch our attention over to Rex for a 00:13:01.429 --> 00:13:06.070 minute, because Order 66 is occurring now, and 00:13:06.070 --> 00:13:11.309 Rex is able to resist. his inhibitor chip just 00:13:11.309 --> 00:13:15.490 long enough to issue this final warning to Ahsoka 00:13:15.490 --> 00:13:18.789 to find Fives and to find out what happened to 00:13:18.789 --> 00:13:23.129 him to explain what is Order 66 and what is happening 00:13:23.129 --> 00:13:28.549 right now. And I find this so amazing because 00:13:28.549 --> 00:13:31.669 it really shows the strength of the bond that 00:13:31.669 --> 00:13:36.470 specifically Ahsoka, Anakin, Obi -Wan have had 00:13:36.470 --> 00:13:40.539 with their clone captains. And the clones under 00:13:40.539 --> 00:13:43.240 their command in general over the course of this 00:13:43.240 --> 00:13:47.600 war. And obviously we don't see as much from 00:13:47.600 --> 00:13:51.940 other Jedi, but specifically with the Anakin 00:13:51.940 --> 00:13:56.960 Ahsoka Rex Bond, they've spent so much time together, 00:13:57.120 --> 00:14:01.279 have had so many moments of life or death, have 00:14:01.279 --> 00:14:05.600 been in this close proximity in all of these 00:14:05.600 --> 00:14:09.509 situations that really test. your loyalty to 00:14:09.509 --> 00:14:14.350 people and your trust in them. And the fact that 00:14:14.350 --> 00:14:19.610 Rex is able to push through this programmed thing 00:14:19.610 --> 00:14:23.389 in his brain to be able to give her a last warning 00:14:23.389 --> 00:14:28.470 is a really wonderful and honestly was one of 00:14:28.470 --> 00:14:31.190 those things that kind of had me tearing up because 00:14:31.190 --> 00:14:36.200 I was like. Rex, my boy, like, just hang on for 00:14:36.200 --> 00:14:39.600 one more second. Don't kill her. I think this 00:14:39.600 --> 00:14:42.299 is a really good sequence all around to the start 00:14:42.299 --> 00:14:44.720 of Order 66 to the end of the episode. As you 00:14:44.720 --> 00:14:46.480 know, I'm not a big fan of the inhibitor chip. 00:14:46.559 --> 00:14:50.659 So this whole sort of storyline is a bit lost 00:14:50.659 --> 00:14:54.000 on me just due to the fact that I have hangups 00:14:54.000 --> 00:14:56.740 around it. The inhibitor chip even existing to 00:14:56.740 --> 00:15:00.080 begin with. But I will say I do like the bringing 00:15:00.080 --> 00:15:03.779 in verbiage from Rogue One as if the Jedi prayer, 00:15:04.120 --> 00:15:05.720 I am one with the Force, the Force is one with 00:15:05.720 --> 00:15:09.720 me, is an actual thing that is not just the guardians 00:15:09.720 --> 00:15:13.240 of the wills in Rogue One. And it is actually 00:15:13.240 --> 00:15:15.700 in the Jedi Order itself and that this leads 00:15:15.700 --> 00:15:19.080 to a Force moment where Ahsoka is able to remove 00:15:19.080 --> 00:15:20.759 the chip from Rex. I think that's really neat. 00:15:21.399 --> 00:15:24.980 Yeah, I really enjoy it. I also think kind of 00:15:24.980 --> 00:15:28.899 on this topic of connection with the Force, it 00:15:28.899 --> 00:15:35.139 is crazy that Maul and Ahsoka feel Order 66 happening 00:15:35.139 --> 00:15:39.919 before it happens. They have these visions and 00:15:39.919 --> 00:15:42.379 they're able to sense that something is wrong. 00:15:42.539 --> 00:15:46.779 And then Order 66 occurs because their connection 00:15:46.779 --> 00:15:50.259 to the Force, as we see here, is only on the 00:15:50.259 --> 00:15:53.990 level of Anakin and Sidious at this point. Even 00:15:53.990 --> 00:15:58.590 Yoda only feels this after it has occurred. He 00:15:58.590 --> 00:16:02.070 only feels Order 66 happening after the Jedi 00:16:02.070 --> 00:16:05.330 are dying. He doesn't get any kind of forewarning. 00:16:05.570 --> 00:16:10.710 He's been so clouded by the dark side that we've 00:16:10.710 --> 00:16:15.610 seen throughout Revenge and a little bit in Attack 00:16:15.610 --> 00:16:17.889 of the Clones as well, where he's discussing 00:16:17.889 --> 00:16:20.870 how the dark side is clouding all of their visions 00:16:20.870 --> 00:16:25.620 and whatnot. Maul and Ahsoka are able to push 00:16:25.620 --> 00:16:28.759 through that, or they're so connected to the 00:16:28.759 --> 00:16:32.639 Force in their own way that they can sense it 00:16:32.639 --> 00:16:37.399 before it happens, which is wild. So I, in the 00:16:37.399 --> 00:16:40.059 way that that movie is structured, I'm in agreement 00:16:40.059 --> 00:16:42.940 with you that it feels like to me that Yoda feels 00:16:42.940 --> 00:16:47.179 it after the Jedi start dying. If you go back 00:16:47.179 --> 00:16:50.340 and you look at that scene, Yoda feels something. 00:16:51.110 --> 00:16:56.590 Then the commander of his clone in Green Kashyyyk 00:16:56.590 --> 00:17:00.649 Battalion then receives Order 66 from the Emperor, 00:17:00.909 --> 00:17:03.350 turns around, and that's when Yoda chops their 00:17:03.350 --> 00:17:06.589 heads off. So there is room for any nitpickers 00:17:06.589 --> 00:17:10.549 to say, actually, when Yoda clutches at his heart, 00:17:10.609 --> 00:17:15.069 he's feeling mace die. Then Order 66 is given, 00:17:15.190 --> 00:17:19.279 and then he chops their heads off. Because they 00:17:19.279 --> 00:17:22.400 do the montage of all the Jedi dying, and then 00:17:22.400 --> 00:17:24.640 we get to Yoda's part, it does feel like it's 00:17:24.640 --> 00:17:27.920 afterwards. And that's the way I want to interpret 00:17:27.920 --> 00:17:31.240 it, but I do feel like because it's not that 00:17:31.240 --> 00:17:36.559 the Emperor gave Order 66, and then... you know, 00:17:36.559 --> 00:17:38.740 gave it again to other people. So unless there's 00:17:38.740 --> 00:17:41.700 some sort of satellite delay where it's, he's 00:17:41.700 --> 00:17:43.579 like one of the furthest planets out. And so 00:17:43.579 --> 00:17:45.259 therefore he's feeling all the Jedi die. And 00:17:45.259 --> 00:17:48.720 then it, order 66 just happens to transmit, but. 00:17:49.500 --> 00:17:52.779 It's mostly simultaneous. Yeah, I think so. And 00:17:52.779 --> 00:17:55.099 so I think that when Yoda feels it, it's probably 00:17:55.099 --> 00:17:57.440 him feeling Mace die. But I think what's really 00:17:57.440 --> 00:18:00.180 cool about all of this is that Yoda has a super 00:18:00.180 --> 00:18:03.440 great connection with Mace. Right. Which for 00:18:03.440 --> 00:18:06.279 Yoda has been. a very quick relationship. So 00:18:06.279 --> 00:18:07.599 I think it's really cool that they have a very 00:18:07.599 --> 00:18:10.059 powerful relationship because Mace is, what, 00:18:10.079 --> 00:18:16.799 in his 50s? And Yoda's 850? And also, so he's 00:18:16.799 --> 00:18:18.380 got a connection with Mace that's really strong. 00:18:18.619 --> 00:18:20.180 Ahsoka has a connection with Anakin, obviously, 00:18:20.180 --> 00:18:23.200 that's really strong. And Maul has a connection 00:18:23.200 --> 00:18:24.940 with Sidious, whether or not he likes it or not. 00:18:25.200 --> 00:18:29.339 Yeah. So that's pretty cool. Yeah, very fascinating. 00:18:29.579 --> 00:18:32.869 And also, I think that this scene... Much like 00:18:32.869 --> 00:18:35.529 a lot of Clone Wars, which is so additive to 00:18:35.529 --> 00:18:38.970 much, gives a lot of weight into Obi -Wan realizing 00:18:38.970 --> 00:18:43.529 that Alderaan is gone in A New Hope. Oh, interesting. 00:18:44.170 --> 00:18:47.250 Because that moment, because we are learning 00:18:47.250 --> 00:18:49.289 for the first time about the Force, that moment 00:18:49.289 --> 00:18:51.890 is essentially Luke picks up that something's 00:18:51.890 --> 00:18:53.349 wrong with Obi -Wan because of Alec Guinness' 00:18:53.390 --> 00:18:56.079 great acting. And then Alec Guinness explains 00:18:56.079 --> 00:18:59.880 how it feels, but it's exposition. This is shown, 00:19:00.079 --> 00:19:03.519 not told. And I just like, now I have a better 00:19:03.519 --> 00:19:06.980 sense of what that feels like. Right. Oh, that's 00:19:06.980 --> 00:19:09.539 so interesting. I hadn't, I hadn't placed that 00:19:09.539 --> 00:19:16.839 together. Your boy's a genius. My last kind of 00:19:16.839 --> 00:19:19.700 note on something that I noticed here is something 00:19:19.700 --> 00:19:23.119 that I think I. Would never have thought about 00:19:23.119 --> 00:19:25.019 before. Well, I know I would never have thought 00:19:25.019 --> 00:19:26.920 about it before because it specifically deals 00:19:26.920 --> 00:19:31.640 with the ride at Disneyland. Rise of the Resistance. 00:19:32.500 --> 00:19:37.519 All of the clones line up to face Rex and Ahsoka 00:19:37.519 --> 00:19:41.220 in this. They're trying to escape. They're trying 00:19:41.220 --> 00:19:43.559 to figure out how to get to a ship. And all of 00:19:43.559 --> 00:19:47.319 the clones line up in the hangar bay to prevent 00:19:47.319 --> 00:19:52.289 them from getting to a ship. really struck me 00:19:52.289 --> 00:19:56.410 how similar it is to, I don't want to spoil too 00:19:56.410 --> 00:20:00.069 much, but on the Rise of Resistance ride, there 00:20:00.069 --> 00:20:02.529 is a moment where some doors open and there are 00:20:02.529 --> 00:20:06.970 a whole bunch of stormtroopers. I think anybody's 00:20:06.970 --> 00:20:08.970 first time on that ride, it rocks your socks. 00:20:09.329 --> 00:20:12.589 It really does. So that really just made that 00:20:12.589 --> 00:20:15.329 connection for me. I go, wow, it's like reliving 00:20:15.329 --> 00:20:19.180 that moment in this sequence. Yeah. It's just 00:20:19.180 --> 00:20:21.960 the scale on the ride when it opens up and you're 00:20:21.960 --> 00:20:24.980 like, whoa. And that's all I'll say about that. 00:20:25.880 --> 00:20:28.079 I will say in terms of what you're talking about 00:20:28.079 --> 00:20:31.539 in this show, I, I, you know, when we were doing 00:20:31.539 --> 00:20:32.900 stranger things, we kept talking about like, 00:20:32.920 --> 00:20:36.319 what's the best sequence. And I, I'm still fairly 00:20:36.319 --> 00:20:38.640 aligned with the fact that, especially now that 00:20:38.640 --> 00:20:41.200 we're done with season five, it's season twos. 00:20:41.700 --> 00:20:46.349 March through the. The Demogorgons, the Demodogs 00:20:46.349 --> 00:20:50.029 with Samwise Gamgee helping Hopper find an escape 00:20:50.029 --> 00:20:53.150 route. So good. I think that this is the best 00:20:53.150 --> 00:20:58.309 sequence of all of Clone Wars. Is the Order 66 00:20:58.309 --> 00:21:02.150 starts Ahsoka's fight to survive all the way. 00:21:02.170 --> 00:21:05.910 Like in terms of it is three quarters of an episode. 00:21:05.950 --> 00:21:08.829 It is tight. It is emotional the entire way. 00:21:08.930 --> 00:21:13.460 There is a plot to free Maul. which seems very 00:21:13.460 --> 00:21:15.500 unlike Ahsoka, but is absolutely in character 00:21:15.500 --> 00:21:19.200 in this moment. Maul is even confused. And then 00:21:19.200 --> 00:21:20.880 she's like, wait, wait, wait, your bait, which 00:21:20.880 --> 00:21:23.940 is a moment of huge triumph for everybody rooting 00:21:23.940 --> 00:21:26.579 for Ahsoka's character. There's getting Rex's 00:21:26.579 --> 00:21:28.599 chip out of his head, which is a huge victory. 00:21:28.700 --> 00:21:30.460 There's his resistance, like you were talking 00:21:30.460 --> 00:21:32.859 about, which again goes into this idea of like 00:21:32.859 --> 00:21:35.240 little kids loving these clones and being like, 00:21:35.299 --> 00:21:37.750 wait, how could they kill all these Jedi? Well, 00:21:37.829 --> 00:21:40.210 it turns out one of them can resist. There's 00:21:40.210 --> 00:21:42.490 the poor justice for the droids that I want. 00:21:42.630 --> 00:21:44.809 These droids that are being so helpful that get 00:21:44.809 --> 00:21:50.289 absolutely obliterated by clones. So sad. Because 00:21:50.289 --> 00:21:54.390 the droids are so full of joy for me, anytime 00:21:54.390 --> 00:21:56.329 that they're obliterated, it actually makes me 00:21:56.329 --> 00:21:58.130 a little bit more emotional than anything else 00:21:58.130 --> 00:22:01.349 in the show. It's like in a movie when the dog 00:22:01.349 --> 00:22:05.210 dies. Right, exactly. And so it almost feels 00:22:05.210 --> 00:22:08.019 traumatizing in a way. But then you've got this, 00:22:08.119 --> 00:22:10.599 like, Maul's running around causing chaos, kind 00:22:10.599 --> 00:22:13.339 of. The droid's going around causing chaos. Ahsoka 00:22:13.339 --> 00:22:16.359 and Rex working really hard together. Ahsoka 00:22:16.359 --> 00:22:19.019 facing some really tough choices. Ahsoka holding 00:22:19.019 --> 00:22:21.700 onto a spaceship as Maul tries to take off, letting 00:22:21.700 --> 00:22:24.740 him go. And then surviving an entire crash on 00:22:24.740 --> 00:22:28.420 the planet with her dueling with two lightsabers. 00:22:28.720 --> 00:22:31.460 Where we've seen her train for this, specifically. 00:22:32.460 --> 00:22:35.430 So, it... It's just a mind -blowing sequence, 00:22:35.549 --> 00:22:37.309 and I think out of all seven seasons, it's my 00:22:37.309 --> 00:22:41.349 favorite. It's definitely fantastic, for sure. 00:22:41.670 --> 00:22:47.329 The Ahsoka holding on to Maul's ship is very 00:22:47.329 --> 00:22:52.630 reminiscent of Rey trying to pull back on Chewie's 00:22:52.630 --> 00:22:56.190 ship, the ship that Chewie is on in Rise of Skywalker. 00:22:56.890 --> 00:23:01.549 And I will say it here, folks, Ahsoka did it 00:23:01.549 --> 00:23:06.710 better. So Sierra, not to do a whole lore galore 00:23:06.710 --> 00:23:08.630 for a second, but I'm going to pull the curtain 00:23:08.630 --> 00:23:11.609 back for a moment. There's not just two people 00:23:11.609 --> 00:23:14.670 that have done this. Holding onto a spaceship 00:23:14.670 --> 00:23:18.650 is an EU thing that happens. But even if you're 00:23:18.650 --> 00:23:20.849 not like, okay, let's just count the books. Sam 00:23:20.849 --> 00:23:24.349 Witwer's original Star Wars character, Starkiller 00:23:24.349 --> 00:23:27.769 from the Force Unleashed games, does this in 00:23:27.769 --> 00:23:32.750 a majorly better way than what we see. Additionally, 00:23:33.559 --> 00:23:36.380 Once you watch the Obi -Wan Kenobi show, I will 00:23:36.380 --> 00:23:38.660 not say anything more, but I think actually that 00:23:38.660 --> 00:23:42.160 show does it the best. Oh man, I'm so excited 00:23:42.160 --> 00:23:44.980 for you to watch it. I'm very excited to watch 00:23:44.980 --> 00:23:47.539 it. For anybody who's listening and is like, 00:23:47.599 --> 00:23:49.279 why hasn't Sierra watched it? Sierra's trying 00:23:49.279 --> 00:23:51.900 to watch everything in chronological order as 00:23:51.900 --> 00:23:56.279 we go through Star Wars. And I have specifically 00:23:56.279 --> 00:24:00.519 saved certain shows and things. To be able to 00:24:00.519 --> 00:24:03.519 watch in context. Yes, excellent. Otherwise, 00:24:03.599 --> 00:24:05.519 I would have watched a lot of these things a 00:24:05.519 --> 00:24:10.019 long time ago. Well, I know you just lost a hand 00:24:10.019 --> 00:24:12.599 losing an argument to me about stuff that you 00:24:12.599 --> 00:24:18.019 don't know about. But listen up. It's the I am 00:24:18.019 --> 00:24:21.480 your father category for most iconic character 00:24:21.480 --> 00:24:23.579 moment. And what is the most important character 00:24:23.579 --> 00:24:28.230 moment of this entire arc? So, iconic. Character 00:24:28.230 --> 00:24:32.009 moment. Sierra, what do you got? Find him. Fives. 00:24:32.549 --> 00:24:36.569 Rex's moment. I do like it. I will say, I think 00:24:36.569 --> 00:24:39.130 the more iconic one, when people think about 00:24:39.130 --> 00:24:41.470 all of the Revenge of the Sith corresponding 00:24:41.470 --> 00:24:47.390 episodes, is the line from Sam Witwer as he appears 00:24:47.390 --> 00:24:50.529 out of the tunnels of Mandalore in darkness going, 00:24:50.789 --> 00:24:56.490 I was hoping for Kenobi. What are you doing here? 00:24:58.050 --> 00:25:01.430 Which I do think is more iconic. Not more important 00:25:01.430 --> 00:25:05.789 and not better, but more iconic. I can give you 00:25:05.789 --> 00:25:10.470 that. The delivery is really where it's at. Precisely. 00:25:10.549 --> 00:25:14.910 It's the delivery. For important, I had... Ahsoka 00:25:14.910 --> 00:25:17.769 has this incredibly pivotal character moment 00:25:17.769 --> 00:25:22.400 where she's been ride or die for her squad. And 00:25:22.400 --> 00:25:25.000 for Anakin. And not for the Jedi. And not for 00:25:25.000 --> 00:25:27.000 Obi -Wan. And not for everybody else. But ride 00:25:27.000 --> 00:25:30.200 or die for her clones and Anakin. And now she 00:25:30.200 --> 00:25:33.420 has to choose to fight the 501st Legion. And 00:25:33.420 --> 00:25:36.519 it takes a bit of Rex telling her, they don't 00:25:36.519 --> 00:25:38.299 care about you. They're going to take you down 00:25:38.299 --> 00:25:40.619 and this ship. Because they want to kill you 00:25:40.619 --> 00:25:44.500 for her to do it. But she does choose to fight 00:25:44.500 --> 00:25:48.819 and to kill them. Which I think is the thing 00:25:48.819 --> 00:25:51.579 that makes her character what it becomes. Moving 00:25:51.579 --> 00:25:55.339 forward in Rebels than the Ahsoka show. I agree. 00:25:55.420 --> 00:25:58.859 I had the same thing for important. It really 00:25:58.859 --> 00:26:02.980 is just the most pivotal character moment in 00:26:02.980 --> 00:26:06.640 these episodes. Hands down. And speaking of down, 00:26:06.720 --> 00:26:11.299 everybody sit down. It's time for our I am Iron 00:26:11.299 --> 00:26:16.119 Man. Most iconic and most important scene category. 00:26:17.480 --> 00:26:19.720 Would you like to start with your honorable mention? 00:26:20.279 --> 00:26:24.019 Yeah, the honorable mention that I have is Maul 00:26:24.019 --> 00:26:27.640 and Ahsoka's throne room duel on Mandalore. It 00:26:27.640 --> 00:26:33.319 is so cool. I think probably very iconic. I don't 00:26:33.319 --> 00:26:35.519 think it's as important as what we've got in 00:26:35.519 --> 00:26:38.920 first place, though. I would agree. What we have 00:26:38.920 --> 00:26:42.380 in first place is the very, very end of Clone 00:26:42.380 --> 00:26:44.259 Wars, the very, very end of these episodes we're 00:26:44.259 --> 00:26:48.299 talking about, which is... Darth Vader standing 00:26:48.299 --> 00:26:53.559 in front of a line of clone graves and finding 00:26:53.559 --> 00:26:58.319 Ahsoka's lightsaber in the snow. Yeah. He now 00:26:58.319 --> 00:27:03.720 thinks slash knows that all of the 501st is dead, 00:27:03.859 --> 00:27:09.299 that Ahsoka is dead, that Rex is dead, and that 00:27:09.299 --> 00:27:14.019 he basically caused this to happen slash allowed 00:27:14.019 --> 00:27:19.190 it to happen. And this is huge, huge for him, 00:27:19.250 --> 00:27:21.250 especially since the lightsaber that he's holding 00:27:21.250 --> 00:27:26.730 is the customized blue that he has given her 00:27:26.730 --> 00:27:34.029 specifically on her return. So this is just broadening 00:27:34.029 --> 00:27:36.269 out for a second, bigger picture, zooming out 00:27:36.269 --> 00:27:40.309 away from just the narrative. TV series endings 00:27:40.309 --> 00:27:44.269 are hard. Yes. You get really good classic ones 00:27:44.269 --> 00:27:46.349 like The Soprano, which was super controversial 00:27:46.349 --> 00:27:49.650 and now is extremely beloved. You get Parks and 00:27:49.650 --> 00:27:51.549 Rec's endings, which was beloved immediately 00:27:51.549 --> 00:27:56.410 and still beloved now. It is hard to nail. Sitcoms, 00:27:56.410 --> 00:27:57.650 I think, actually are a little easier because 00:27:57.650 --> 00:28:00.930 you just kind of bring up nostalgia and say goodbye 00:28:00.930 --> 00:28:06.069 to everybody. But it's still really hard to do 00:28:06.069 --> 00:28:09.430 TV endings. And this has got to be one of the 00:28:09.430 --> 00:28:12.910 best ones, I think. It's very well done. It's 00:28:12.910 --> 00:28:15.769 even if you don't like the last whole season 00:28:15.769 --> 00:28:17.170 seven, which a lot of people don't because of 00:28:17.170 --> 00:28:20.269 Ahsoka's like sister storyline, which goes on 00:28:20.269 --> 00:28:22.930 for like five episodes and takes a lot of time 00:28:22.930 --> 00:28:25.950 away from literally anybody else. It's quite 00:28:25.950 --> 00:28:29.430 lackluster. And it does very much seem like the 00:28:29.430 --> 00:28:34.750 only reason is to get to this. To get her to 00:28:34.750 --> 00:28:38.109 find out the audience. I feel like they felt 00:28:38.109 --> 00:28:39.829 like they owed the audience what was going on 00:28:39.829 --> 00:28:42.140 with Ahsoka. I just don't know that that was 00:28:42.140 --> 00:28:45.299 a story worth telling. Yeah. That being said, 00:28:45.380 --> 00:28:47.859 in terms of being responsible with your women 00:28:47.859 --> 00:28:50.339 characters, that is a whole arc about women, 00:28:50.420 --> 00:28:53.279 like supporting women, which is cool, especially 00:28:53.279 --> 00:28:57.380 with how they nerf Padme. But still a little 00:28:57.380 --> 00:28:59.920 lackluster, as you say, with only one real thing, 00:28:59.960 --> 00:29:02.920 which is, oh, Maul. Right. Which then launches 00:29:02.920 --> 00:29:06.279 this sequence. So from a big perspective, like 00:29:06.279 --> 00:29:09.579 this is a chilling, awesome scene. And from a 00:29:09.579 --> 00:29:11.440 character perspective for Anakin, some of the 00:29:11.440 --> 00:29:15.079 best stuff that has come out in Disney canon, 00:29:15.200 --> 00:29:18.460 in my opinion, is the contextualization around 00:29:18.460 --> 00:29:22.960 Anakin still being inside Vader. Because this 00:29:22.960 --> 00:29:26.039 is not Vader. No. Who's standing in the snow. 00:29:26.200 --> 00:29:29.799 I mean, like literally is. It's Darth Vader in 00:29:29.799 --> 00:29:31.420 his black costume and all that sort of stuff 00:29:31.420 --> 00:29:35.259 with his helmet. But it's Anakin. Mourning his 00:29:35.259 --> 00:29:37.559 past life. And you think about he's lost his 00:29:37.559 --> 00:29:40.180 brother, Obi -Wan, who's betrayed him and cut 00:29:40.180 --> 00:29:42.920 him up. And he now has like a sort of Maul -like 00:29:42.920 --> 00:29:45.779 revenge sense against him. He lost his wife. 00:29:46.440 --> 00:29:49.519 And whether that was done by Palpatine or if 00:29:49.519 --> 00:29:52.220 that was just she dying of a broken heart, that's 00:29:52.220 --> 00:29:55.400 up for debate. But he doesn't know anything other 00:29:55.400 --> 00:29:59.039 than he's lost his baby because he doesn't know 00:29:59.039 --> 00:30:02.799 about twins. And he's lost his wife and he's 00:30:02.799 --> 00:30:05.240 lost his brother and he's done horrible things 00:30:05.240 --> 00:30:07.700 to try and save his wife, which hasn't worked 00:30:07.700 --> 00:30:10.220 out. And now he's stuck in this life and there's 00:30:10.220 --> 00:30:13.420 no respite. And it's going to be interesting 00:30:13.420 --> 00:30:17.440 because there is a point where Ahsoka and Darth 00:30:17.440 --> 00:30:20.039 Vader are going to meet. But there's a lot of 00:30:20.039 --> 00:30:21.599 change that will have happened between those 00:30:21.599 --> 00:30:25.619 two events. So be on the lookout for that, listeners, 00:30:25.660 --> 00:30:29.299 when we cover Rebels. Crack open an encyclopedia. 00:30:29.799 --> 00:30:31.980 It's time for our, as Elijah Wood once said, 00:30:32.059 --> 00:30:35.859 no, how could we have known category, where we 00:30:35.859 --> 00:30:37.920 discuss the most important information disseminated 00:30:37.920 --> 00:30:42.460 to the fandom in this television show. It's really 00:30:42.460 --> 00:30:44.279 just two pieces of information. One is Vader 00:30:44.279 --> 00:30:46.700 thinks that Ahsoka and Rex are dead. That's important 00:30:46.700 --> 00:30:50.200 enough. You know, it covers why Ahsoka is still 00:30:50.200 --> 00:30:53.160 around, why Rex is still around. But the main 00:30:53.160 --> 00:30:55.579 thing, I think, is that Maul survives because 00:30:55.579 --> 00:30:57.200 Ahsoka lets him go and then he steals the ship. 00:30:57.559 --> 00:31:00.640 Yep. That's why we're getting a mall show. Heck 00:31:00.640 --> 00:31:07.779 yeah. Let's go. Time to keep your horses safe, 00:31:07.880 --> 00:31:11.059 because it's my favorite category. I'm going 00:31:11.059 --> 00:31:15.400 to make him an offer he can't refuse. Category 00:31:15.400 --> 00:31:19.220 of best lines. We have just a couple here. There 00:31:19.220 --> 00:31:21.140 was only a couple episodes. A lot of it was fighting, 00:31:21.299 --> 00:31:25.059 guys. So here we go. My favorite line was, blast, 00:31:25.059 --> 00:31:35.079 blast. This first one, I think it might be my 00:31:35.079 --> 00:31:41.380 favorite one of Clone Wars because of the impact 00:31:41.380 --> 00:31:46.680 that it has. And it made me cry. It did. I said 00:31:46.680 --> 00:31:49.079 this at the beginning. I said these episodes 00:31:49.079 --> 00:31:50.839 made me cry. And this was the very beginning 00:31:50.839 --> 00:31:53.619 of it. And this is where it started. They know 00:31:53.619 --> 00:31:56.480 what you went through for them. Day after day, 00:31:56.640 --> 00:32:00.410 battle after battle. loyalty means everything 00:32:00.410 --> 00:32:04.690 to the clones. And if that doesn't put a chill 00:32:04.690 --> 00:32:09.509 in your spine, knowing what's to come. Yikes. 00:32:09.789 --> 00:32:15.250 Yeah. Uh, I survived and I can thrive in the 00:32:15.250 --> 00:32:18.789 chaos that is to come. That's a mall quote. It's 00:32:18.789 --> 00:32:24.420 a great line. So good. This. And then this last 00:32:24.420 --> 00:32:27.019 one is just indicative of what we were talking 00:32:27.019 --> 00:32:30.960 about between Maul and Ahsoka. Do you want me 00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:32.599 to do the Maul part and you can do the Ahsoka 00:32:32.599 --> 00:32:36.339 part? Yes, please. Excellent. You have Kenobi's 00:32:36.339 --> 00:32:39.740 arrogance. You'll find I have many qualities 00:32:39.740 --> 00:32:42.779 for you to dislike. I really like that exchange. 00:32:43.099 --> 00:32:46.180 Their connection is just so electric. And I could 00:32:46.180 --> 00:32:49.400 have done with a whole series arc of her and 00:32:49.400 --> 00:32:52.490 him. Yes. That would have been incredible. It 00:32:52.490 --> 00:32:55.049 would have been so good. And I've already said 00:32:55.049 --> 00:33:00.089 my favorite line, which is, I was expecting Kenobi. 00:33:00.710 --> 00:33:05.329 What are you doing here? It's a great line. So 00:33:05.329 --> 00:33:07.549 good. But it's time for us to board the TARDIS 00:33:07.549 --> 00:33:11.950 and explore what ifs with our get out category. 00:33:12.390 --> 00:33:16.490 So what are the what ifs provided by this TV 00:33:16.490 --> 00:33:19.609 show? What if Ahsoka and Maul joined forces? 00:33:19.950 --> 00:33:24.109 What if she said yes? Obviously, Maul is mostly 00:33:24.109 --> 00:33:28.269 playing Ahsoka here, or at least just trying 00:33:28.269 --> 00:33:30.289 to get her on board enough to accomplish what 00:33:30.289 --> 00:33:33.609 he wants. But in a world where Ahsoka believes 00:33:33.609 --> 00:33:36.490 him about Anakin, which she kind of should because 00:33:36.490 --> 00:33:41.730 he is right. But I get it. Her unwavering faith. 00:33:42.130 --> 00:33:45.730 I understand. Maul is disenfranchised by the 00:33:45.730 --> 00:33:48.150 Sith. Ahsoka is disenfranchised by the Jedi. 00:33:48.230 --> 00:33:51.390 They could make a f - fascinating team to find 00:33:51.390 --> 00:33:55.029 the middle ground. Yeah. If they're able to each 00:33:55.029 --> 00:33:59.430 budge from their convictions, which they never 00:33:59.430 --> 00:34:02.549 will. Which I actually don't think is like literally 00:34:02.549 --> 00:34:06.670 physically possible because of the whole Mortis 00:34:06.670 --> 00:34:09.570 storyline in season three of Clone Wars where 00:34:09.570 --> 00:34:12.300 Ahsoka is. killed, becomes the dark side puppet, 00:34:12.400 --> 00:34:15.380 but then literally saved by the light side. So 00:34:15.380 --> 00:34:18.119 I don't think that physically Ahsoka could ever 00:34:18.119 --> 00:34:21.019 sort of shirk her morals like that. But that 00:34:21.019 --> 00:34:24.719 being said, first of all, Ahsoka would look really, 00:34:24.800 --> 00:34:29.199 really pretty sweet. In some tatted, Maul -inspired, 00:34:29.199 --> 00:34:33.400 like, red and black outfits. That would be super 00:34:33.400 --> 00:34:37.039 cool. Crimson Dawn, like, being run by Kira, 00:34:37.199 --> 00:34:39.820 Ahsoka, and Maul would be amazing. I also think 00:34:39.820 --> 00:34:41.699 that they would become so powerful that the Emperor 00:34:41.699 --> 00:34:43.480 and Vader would have to kill them a lot earlier 00:34:43.480 --> 00:34:45.400 and that we wouldn't get any interesting storylines. 00:34:45.559 --> 00:34:49.019 Because if Sidious was already like, you have 00:34:49.019 --> 00:34:52.539 become a rival with a dunce like Savage, who's 00:34:52.539 --> 00:34:56.460 powerful, but a dunce. Imagine Ahsoka. Being 00:34:56.460 --> 00:34:59.659 with Maul. Sidious would be like, wait a second. 00:34:59.840 --> 00:35:02.239 You guys might actually rule us. So we got to 00:35:02.239 --> 00:35:06.599 kill you now. My what if is, what if Anakin and 00:35:06.599 --> 00:35:08.199 Ahsoka did actually get to speak to each other? 00:35:08.280 --> 00:35:10.059 Because you remember there's this moment where 00:35:10.059 --> 00:35:11.480 Ahsoka's like, I would like to speak with Master 00:35:11.480 --> 00:35:15.260 Skywalker. And Obi -Wan is like, no, actually 00:35:15.260 --> 00:35:19.260 Anakin's gone off to do such and such. And I 00:35:19.260 --> 00:35:22.199 really wonder what would happen if Ahsoka had 00:35:22.199 --> 00:35:26.519 been able to talk to Anakin right there. I don't 00:35:26.519 --> 00:35:28.500 know why. There's no actual evidence for me to 00:35:28.500 --> 00:35:31.079 feel this way. But it feels like that was a missed 00:35:31.079 --> 00:35:33.920 moment of light side or dark side for Anakin. 00:35:34.139 --> 00:35:37.219 I do feel that way as well. I think that there 00:35:37.219 --> 00:35:41.619 is justification because throughout Clone Wars, 00:35:41.699 --> 00:35:46.139 we do see that Ahsoka really speaks to a little 00:35:46.139 --> 00:35:48.960 bit more of the innocence of Anakin and him seeing 00:35:48.960 --> 00:35:53.590 what it was like as a Padawan himself. be interested 00:35:53.590 --> 00:35:57.190 in the force and being a jedi for the first time 00:35:57.190 --> 00:36:04.610 and i think that she also really touches on that 00:36:04.610 --> 00:36:10.170 where obi -wan is his brother ahsoka is his little 00:36:10.170 --> 00:36:14.070 sister and he feels protective of her but also 00:36:14.070 --> 00:36:17.349 that he can learn from her and i feel that that 00:36:17.349 --> 00:36:22.059 connection Would really have spoken to him in 00:36:22.059 --> 00:36:27.699 that moment. And depending on exactly when that 00:36:27.699 --> 00:36:31.639 conversation takes place, I would argue pre or 00:36:31.639 --> 00:36:36.320 post youngling situation. Yeah. Would really 00:36:36.320 --> 00:36:39.719 dictate. What would happen because if Ahsoka 00:36:39.719 --> 00:36:43.019 can get to Anakin before that occurs. That's 00:36:43.019 --> 00:36:45.079 when this conversation would have occurred. Yeah. 00:36:45.159 --> 00:36:48.019 Which, which I think that could make a real case 00:36:48.019 --> 00:36:51.699 for him. Understanding what he's walking into 00:36:51.699 --> 00:36:54.840 and the lure of the dark side and how he needs 00:36:54.840 --> 00:36:58.099 to be a little bit more on his guard. And then 00:36:58.099 --> 00:37:01.099 if, because I believe that there's also a moment 00:37:01.099 --> 00:37:06.280 where she has another. time that she could try 00:37:06.280 --> 00:37:09.039 to speak to him or leave a message for him essentially 00:37:09.039 --> 00:37:11.960 and just says i'll talk to him when i see him 00:37:11.960 --> 00:37:16.280 yeah and that would have been post younglings 00:37:16.280 --> 00:37:20.920 but i think that it could have made anakin hesitate 00:37:21.820 --> 00:37:24.099 A little bit. And maybe Padme would have lived 00:37:24.099 --> 00:37:26.380 or maybe, you know, depending on how you kind 00:37:26.380 --> 00:37:28.980 of read that whole situation, or perhaps he would 00:37:28.980 --> 00:37:32.320 not have gone full Vader. Something in that could 00:37:32.320 --> 00:37:35.719 be twisted. But I also think that if they do 00:37:35.719 --> 00:37:38.519 have a actual conversation, it's not just Ahsoka 00:37:38.519 --> 00:37:42.019 leaving him a message. That opens up Ahsoka to 00:37:42.019 --> 00:37:46.679 a lot more choices. Yeah. And she may join Maul 00:37:46.679 --> 00:37:51.719 in the attempt to save Anakin. Yeah. From Sidious, 00:37:51.920 --> 00:37:55.519 potentially. Because Younglings is after Order 00:37:55.519 --> 00:37:58.900 66, which is, like, Ahsoka is not joining Maul 00:37:58.900 --> 00:38:01.760 at that point because the clones are attacking 00:38:01.760 --> 00:38:04.239 her, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Except 00:38:04.239 --> 00:38:07.820 for that she does interact with him to let him 00:38:07.820 --> 00:38:11.320 go as bait. And that situation could be different. 00:38:11.460 --> 00:38:13.159 Right, but there's no way that she's having a 00:38:13.159 --> 00:38:16.360 conversation with Anakin post -Order 66. Oh, 00:38:16.400 --> 00:38:20.239 I understand. Yes. Yeah, I am. So, and I just 00:38:20.239 --> 00:38:22.579 have a tough time thinking, by the time that 00:38:22.579 --> 00:38:24.280 Anakin has killed younglings, I think he's in. 00:38:24.440 --> 00:38:26.360 I don't think there's any changing him on that. 00:38:27.820 --> 00:38:30.340 You know, mind hesitancies, I think he's full 00:38:30.340 --> 00:38:33.440 of those for the next 20 plus years. And that's 00:38:33.440 --> 00:38:35.119 one of the reasons why the Emperor never truly 00:38:35.119 --> 00:38:39.960 trusts him. And it continues to manipulate and 00:38:39.960 --> 00:38:43.820 control him. But I do, it just, it does feel 00:38:43.820 --> 00:38:46.400 like a missed opportunity. It feels like a moment 00:38:46.400 --> 00:38:51.360 where... I don't know. Just, you know, it's just 00:38:51.360 --> 00:38:54.239 it's a classic one of those setups where, hey, 00:38:54.360 --> 00:38:55.940 hey, don't. No, no, no, no, no. And you've seen 00:38:55.940 --> 00:38:57.579 the movie a thousand times and you know that 00:38:57.579 --> 00:38:58.900 the character is going to make the wrong decision 00:38:58.900 --> 00:39:00.699 and they do it anyways. And you're like, oh, 00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:03.679 and that's what that moment is to me. And it's 00:39:03.679 --> 00:39:07.239 very effective that way. Yeah, I agree. Rip open 00:39:07.239 --> 00:39:10.539 that candy wrapper and show us your golden ticket. 00:39:10.699 --> 00:39:14.199 It's time for the Veruca Salt Award for piece 00:39:14.199 --> 00:39:17.769 of memorabilia that we really, really need. We 00:39:17.769 --> 00:39:20.510 kind of have the same thing. Kind of. Kind of. 00:39:20.510 --> 00:39:26.030 Kind of. A 501st helmet. A 212th helmet. And 00:39:26.030 --> 00:39:28.829 I do have those. So that shows you how much I 00:39:28.829 --> 00:39:32.090 really, really needed them. So my pick is coming 00:39:32.090 --> 00:39:35.070 from the fact that I think that a lot of Ahsoka 00:39:35.070 --> 00:39:37.849 merch out there stinks in general for adults. 00:39:37.989 --> 00:39:39.449 I think that there's a lot of great Ahsoka merch 00:39:39.449 --> 00:39:43.130 for kids, obviously. And in general, I'm not 00:39:43.130 --> 00:39:48.539 a big, like, trooper helmet guy. That changes 00:39:48.539 --> 00:39:50.960 when it comes to Mandalorian gear, let me tell 00:39:50.960 --> 00:39:53.159 you. And I still don't own any Mandalorian gear. 00:39:53.260 --> 00:39:55.440 But in general, I'm like, yeah, the helmets are 00:39:55.440 --> 00:39:58.880 cool, et cetera, et cetera. But man, would I 00:39:58.880 --> 00:40:03.579 pay money for the 501sts in Ahsoka's paint that 00:40:03.579 --> 00:40:06.079 they do for this last art. Which I think it's 00:40:06.079 --> 00:40:12.079 just, it just warms my heart. It's so... Yeah, 00:40:12.159 --> 00:40:15.179 exactly. Precisely. That sigh is exactly what 00:40:15.179 --> 00:40:19.340 it feels like in a sound. And I think that it 00:40:19.340 --> 00:40:22.460 is also signified by that quote that I said, 00:40:22.539 --> 00:40:26.239 you know, the reason why they do this for her 00:40:26.239 --> 00:40:29.980 and paint their helmets for her is because they're 00:40:29.980 --> 00:40:33.219 so loyal and because they truly care for her 00:40:33.219 --> 00:40:37.659 and trust her and totally missed her when she 00:40:37.659 --> 00:40:42.539 was gone. Yes. Big sigh. Heavy sigh. Big sigh 00:40:42.539 --> 00:40:46.079 indeed. So in a segment that is not planned and 00:40:46.079 --> 00:40:48.460 not scripted, we've now come to the end of the 00:40:48.460 --> 00:40:51.159 Clone Wars. And so I just have two questions 00:40:51.159 --> 00:40:54.099 for you, really. Maybe three. Let's go with three. 00:40:55.179 --> 00:40:58.000 One is, over all the Clone Wars, Sierra, what 00:40:58.000 --> 00:41:01.900 is your favorite arc? Wow. Wow, what a question. 00:41:02.619 --> 00:41:06.780 Holy moly. To me, it's the Immortus planet arc. 00:41:07.780 --> 00:41:10.199 Because of the ramifications of what the Force 00:41:10.199 --> 00:41:15.500 is. The father, the son, and the daughter being 00:41:15.500 --> 00:41:20.219 the force. And then the light side and the dark 00:41:20.219 --> 00:41:23.539 side. And what Anakin is able to do. And what 00:41:23.539 --> 00:41:25.860 happens to Ahsoka. And what happens to Obi -Wan. 00:41:26.699 --> 00:41:29.920 It's not, like, my favorite story. If that makes 00:41:29.920 --> 00:41:32.500 any sense. Like, I find all the Mandalore stuff 00:41:32.500 --> 00:41:37.829 much more interesting. I find the clones. Fighting 00:41:37.829 --> 00:41:40.329 against that one awful Jedi who's like, I'm going 00:41:40.329 --> 00:41:43.909 to rule the, whatever his name is, Krell. Krell, 00:41:44.010 --> 00:41:46.389 yeah. Krell, yeah. That is a more interesting 00:41:46.389 --> 00:41:50.329 story. But in terms of the ramifications of Force 00:41:50.329 --> 00:41:53.710 lore, which we will continue to explore in Ahsoka's 00:41:53.710 --> 00:41:57.389 show, I just feel like that is my favorite at 00:41:57.389 --> 00:42:01.849 the end of the day. Interesting. So. I have a 00:42:01.849 --> 00:42:04.329 hard time narrowing down. And I think it's because 00:42:04.329 --> 00:42:12.630 there are arcs that I enjoy. Like the young Padawans 00:42:12.630 --> 00:42:16.989 going and getting their kyber crystals and becoming 00:42:16.989 --> 00:42:21.409 Jedi for real and all of that. I love that arc. 00:42:21.550 --> 00:42:22.989 I think it's a great - Lightsaber to your head 00:42:22.989 --> 00:42:26.010 though, Sierra. You gotta pick one. Oh my gosh. 00:42:26.550 --> 00:42:30.409 What's the one that comes up sort of instinctually? 00:42:31.239 --> 00:42:34.260 I think it's, honestly, as much as I hate it, 00:42:34.300 --> 00:42:36.980 I love it. It's the clones with Master Krell. 00:42:37.579 --> 00:42:40.199 Yeah. That's what I thought you were going to 00:42:40.199 --> 00:42:43.179 say, to be fair. When you talk about that, that's 00:42:43.179 --> 00:42:44.559 the one that you get the most passionate about, 00:42:44.639 --> 00:42:49.199 certainly. Because I hate it so much, and I love 00:42:49.199 --> 00:42:52.039 it so much. Because I love the clones so much, 00:42:52.039 --> 00:42:56.440 and I have very passionate feelings about these 00:42:56.440 --> 00:43:01.320 characters. And Krell is just so awesome. horrible 00:43:01.320 --> 00:43:06.039 that i agonize over it yeah but that is the one 00:43:06.039 --> 00:43:09.039 that when i when i think about clone wars that 00:43:09.039 --> 00:43:12.420 is the first thing i think of yeah okay so second 00:43:12.420 --> 00:43:17.500 question of all the pieces of information disseminated 00:43:17.500 --> 00:43:20.280 now i'm not talking about just solo pieces of 00:43:20.280 --> 00:43:23.309 information so like you could say Anakin's character 00:43:23.309 --> 00:43:26.829 being completely explored could be an answer. 00:43:26.889 --> 00:43:29.070 Of all the information disseminated over the 00:43:29.070 --> 00:43:30.869 course of Clone Wars, one piece of information, 00:43:31.090 --> 00:43:32.949 what's the one that you come away with that you 00:43:32.949 --> 00:43:36.489 feel like is the most interesting to you? I mean, 00:43:36.510 --> 00:43:40.250 it is that. It's Anakin's character arc. It's 00:43:40.250 --> 00:43:44.710 understanding why they will grant him the rank 00:43:44.710 --> 00:43:48.949 of Master. It is understanding why the Council 00:43:48.949 --> 00:43:53.690 even... tolerates him. It's the reason why he's 00:43:53.690 --> 00:43:55.949 in the position that he's in, why they trust 00:43:55.949 --> 00:43:58.170 him with certain missions, why they think that 00:43:58.170 --> 00:44:03.070 he'll actually spy on Palpatine. It explains 00:44:03.070 --> 00:44:07.550 everything about who he is, and you understand, 00:44:07.829 --> 00:44:13.389 I mean, even why Padme cares for him. You know, 00:44:13.389 --> 00:44:19.170 I feel like there's so much missing. I feel like 00:44:19.170 --> 00:44:24.369 there's so much missing if you just go from Attack 00:44:24.369 --> 00:44:27.750 of the Clones to Revenge of the Sith. And this 00:44:27.750 --> 00:44:32.610 really, you know, you were my brother. Even that 00:44:32.610 --> 00:44:36.170 one line is so dictated by the events of Clone 00:44:36.170 --> 00:44:41.389 Wars. Yeah. So that really is it. For me, it's 00:44:41.389 --> 00:44:42.929 really a toss up between these two, but I'll 00:44:42.929 --> 00:44:45.489 say this one is most interesting to me because 00:44:45.489 --> 00:44:47.929 you've already gone with Anakin. It's the exploration 00:44:47.929 --> 00:44:51.789 of what's wrong with the Jedi. Culminating in 00:44:51.789 --> 00:44:54.530 Ahsoka leaving the Order and that incredible 00:44:54.530 --> 00:44:57.929 monologue by Barriss, who's already turned her 00:44:57.929 --> 00:45:00.369 lightsaber red with dark side energy, still being 00:45:00.369 --> 00:45:02.989 dead on correct about the fact that this is not 00:45:02.989 --> 00:45:05.739 the way that the Jedi are supposed to be. And 00:45:05.739 --> 00:45:08.500 it really shows me the corruption from within 00:45:08.500 --> 00:45:11.760 that Anakin is annoyed and frustrated with. And 00:45:11.760 --> 00:45:13.719 that Obi -Wan is turning a bit of a blind eye, 00:45:13.780 --> 00:45:15.340 too, by the time we get to Revenge of the Sith. 00:45:15.380 --> 00:45:18.280 So I think the exploration of what's wrong with 00:45:18.280 --> 00:45:21.019 the Jedi Order is, to me, the most interesting 00:45:21.019 --> 00:45:25.480 thing. And my third question. When we first started 00:45:25.480 --> 00:45:27.840 coming up with this podcast idea, and we thought 00:45:27.840 --> 00:45:29.239 that we were going to do Star Wars first, and 00:45:29.239 --> 00:45:30.940 that was before we decided to do Stranger Things, 00:45:31.119 --> 00:45:34.099 we talked a lot about, man, it'll be really interesting 00:45:34.099 --> 00:45:37.579 to see. What preconceived opinions that we have 00:45:37.579 --> 00:45:41.179 about Star Wars or about characters might change? 00:45:41.659 --> 00:45:48.159 So for you, what has changed? I think in general, 00:45:48.280 --> 00:45:52.400 most of my opinions have remained the same. I 00:45:52.400 --> 00:45:56.619 still don't fully care for Ahsoka in general. 00:45:56.699 --> 00:46:01.739 However, I do respect her place in the canon. 00:46:02.570 --> 00:46:06.869 a little bit more. And especially on this watch 00:46:06.869 --> 00:46:09.409 with these final episodes that we've been talking 00:46:09.409 --> 00:46:13.630 about, I think that that really has a much more 00:46:13.630 --> 00:46:19.809 impactful going forward for me that I didn't 00:46:19.809 --> 00:46:23.510 really feel before. So I think that's one thing 00:46:23.510 --> 00:46:27.030 that has shifted a little bit in terms of kind 00:46:27.030 --> 00:46:32.590 of who I Like or dislike or the storylines that 00:46:32.590 --> 00:46:34.409 I have found impactful. I feel like a lot of 00:46:34.409 --> 00:46:37.650 that has remained the same. I will say, though, 00:46:37.769 --> 00:46:42.429 that I do think I have a little bit more of an 00:46:42.429 --> 00:46:46.530 attention to detail when it comes to issues with 00:46:46.530 --> 00:46:51.650 the Jedi Order. Because beforehand, I think it 00:46:51.650 --> 00:46:55.530 was more just due to the fact that I wasn't honing 00:46:55.530 --> 00:47:01.340 in on it or. focused on it at all and so I was 00:47:01.340 --> 00:47:04.380 able to let a lot of those things slide but then 00:47:04.380 --> 00:47:07.159 re -watching from kind of that framework and 00:47:07.159 --> 00:47:11.840 that lens on it did open my eyes a lot more to 00:47:11.840 --> 00:47:15.380 the problems and I think that that really comes 00:47:15.380 --> 00:47:18.159 to a head when I think about Yoda and Mace and 00:47:18.159 --> 00:47:21.940 I don't like them as much as I used to I think 00:47:21.940 --> 00:47:24.659 that's the biggest thing for me that's the biggest 00:47:24.659 --> 00:47:27.619 change in my views on characters specifically, 00:47:27.820 --> 00:47:32.719 but situations as well, is that I feel like most 00:47:32.719 --> 00:47:36.980 people who are maybe around our age, when you 00:47:36.980 --> 00:47:41.840 saw Yoda in the prequels, it was, he's this funny 00:47:41.840 --> 00:47:44.019 green guy. And oh my gosh, look at him flipping 00:47:44.019 --> 00:47:46.239 around and fighting and all that. And you got 00:47:46.239 --> 00:47:49.000 excited about it. And I know that he's always 00:47:49.000 --> 00:47:51.320 been my brother's, one of my brother's favorite 00:47:51.320 --> 00:47:53.920 characters. And I think Mace is also one of my 00:47:53.920 --> 00:47:56.719 brother's favorite characters. And so, Really 00:47:56.719 --> 00:48:00.099 watching kind of from this lens of what is going 00:48:00.099 --> 00:48:02.179 on with the Jedi Order and what's wrong with 00:48:02.179 --> 00:48:06.500 it. I find myself angry at them because they're 00:48:06.500 --> 00:48:10.440 really allowing all of this to happen. And they're 00:48:10.440 --> 00:48:13.440 turning this blind eye. And I think that that 00:48:13.440 --> 00:48:16.579 has really colored my opinion of both of those 00:48:16.579 --> 00:48:22.099 characters, which is a little sad. It is what 00:48:22.099 --> 00:48:25.800 it is, but I do find myself... from maybe a nostalgia 00:48:25.800 --> 00:48:28.800 standpoint, feeling a little upset about it because 00:48:28.800 --> 00:48:33.380 I did truly really enjoy both of these characters. 00:48:33.460 --> 00:48:36.199 And now when I watch them, I just want to yell 00:48:36.199 --> 00:48:42.440 at them. Yeah. I think for me, certainly my opinions 00:48:42.440 --> 00:48:45.219 on Yoda have changed a lot. And in the way that 00:48:45.219 --> 00:48:47.260 my opinions about Albus Dumbledore changed, the 00:48:47.260 --> 00:48:48.920 further I got into adulthood and the more I was 00:48:48.920 --> 00:48:54.150 like, wait a second. Hold on a minute. What are 00:48:54.150 --> 00:48:58.190 we doing here, Dumble? Come on. There wasn't 00:48:58.190 --> 00:49:01.590 a better plan? You weren't a bit smarter than 00:49:01.590 --> 00:49:06.849 you are? I really respect Ahsoka more than ever. 00:49:07.110 --> 00:49:12.269 Her arc in Seasons 4, 5, and then in 7, in the 00:49:12.269 --> 00:49:14.289 second half with Mandalore and stuff, made me 00:49:14.289 --> 00:49:17.590 really enjoy her character a lot more. Makes 00:49:17.590 --> 00:49:20.550 me respect her more in Rebels. Makes me respect 00:49:20.550 --> 00:49:25.590 her more in... The Ahsoka show. I think without 00:49:25.590 --> 00:49:28.329 this show. Revenge of the Sith isn't as good. 00:49:28.909 --> 00:49:33.510 And I. I talked about this. In our Revenge of 00:49:33.510 --> 00:49:35.610 the Sith pod. So I don't need to belabor it. 00:49:35.690 --> 00:49:39.150 But essentially. The movie works a lot better. 00:49:39.190 --> 00:49:42.929 Because of this show. Which is frustrating to 00:49:42.929 --> 00:49:47.289 me. Because as I've mentioned. In all sorts of 00:49:47.289 --> 00:49:49.610 different podcasts. That I've been on. I want 00:49:49.610 --> 00:49:53.489 the story to be able. to be at its peak and best 00:49:53.489 --> 00:49:56.070 within the main medium it's in. So if you're 00:49:56.070 --> 00:49:58.789 doing the movies, let's have the movies be as 00:49:58.789 --> 00:50:00.449 good as possible and have everything else be 00:50:00.449 --> 00:50:06.110 additive in not such an important way as this 00:50:06.110 --> 00:50:09.090 fleshing out of Anakin's character does. Now, 00:50:09.170 --> 00:50:11.130 I'm still glad that we got it. I think the thing 00:50:11.130 --> 00:50:13.070 that surprises me most is that I feel very similar 00:50:13.070 --> 00:50:15.409 about this show from a big picture perspective 00:50:15.409 --> 00:50:18.449 than I did the first time. And what I mean by 00:50:18.449 --> 00:50:20.429 that is it's like it is a show that struggles. 00:50:21.019 --> 00:50:23.679 The first three seasons are not nearly as good 00:50:23.679 --> 00:50:28.639 as the last four seasons. It is a show that is 00:50:28.639 --> 00:50:31.260 not as deep as a lot of people want to make it. 00:50:31.400 --> 00:50:37.360 They don't dive into some of these politics and 00:50:37.360 --> 00:50:41.139 problems with the world as deeply as I think 00:50:41.139 --> 00:50:43.179 a lot of fans are like, yeah, it does this and 00:50:43.179 --> 00:50:44.820 this and this. Well, no, it touches upon it. 00:50:44.860 --> 00:50:48.510 And what you're able to do. What you're able 00:50:48.510 --> 00:50:50.110 to read in subtextually can be really interesting. 00:50:50.210 --> 00:50:52.789 But I think about juxtaposing this show with 00:50:52.789 --> 00:50:54.610 Avatar The Last Airbender, Dave Filoni's other 00:50:54.610 --> 00:50:58.130 big material that I've worked with. They go hard 00:50:58.130 --> 00:51:01.250 in about capitalism and imperialism. There's 00:51:01.250 --> 00:51:05.190 that huge monologue from Zuko about, like, we 00:51:05.190 --> 00:51:08.010 were taught in the Fire Nation that this was 00:51:08.010 --> 00:51:10.909 the best nation in the world, parroting what 00:51:10.909 --> 00:51:13.039 a lot of— elementary and middle schools were 00:51:13.039 --> 00:51:14.500 teaching at the time in the United States, like 00:51:14.500 --> 00:51:17.099 some real bravery there in tackling that. And 00:51:17.099 --> 00:51:21.059 to me, this show goes only so far in doing that. 00:51:21.199 --> 00:51:23.320 And I think that was the biggest surprising to 00:51:23.320 --> 00:51:24.960 me. Now there's a lot more information to be 00:51:24.960 --> 00:51:27.079 gleaned in the universe and all that stuff, but 00:51:27.079 --> 00:51:29.320 I came out feeling still, yeah, this show is 00:51:29.320 --> 00:51:33.119 good, but it's not S tier to me. And that was, 00:51:33.239 --> 00:51:35.840 it's a hard place to be after spending this much 00:51:35.840 --> 00:51:38.059 time with it because I really want it to be an 00:51:38.059 --> 00:51:41.190 S tier and it's just not. Today's public service 00:51:41.190 --> 00:51:44.230 announcement. When faced with a red -horned devil 00:51:44.230 --> 00:51:46.789 and an offer to take down a Sith Lord and rule 00:51:46.789 --> 00:51:49.949 the underworld together, do it. What could go 00:51:49.949 --> 00:51:56.210 wrong? What could go wrong? Thank you, dear listeners, 00:51:56.349 --> 00:51:59.690 for listening to this episode of Fandom Shmandom. 00:51:59.829 --> 00:52:02.409 If you'd like to discuss this episode or any 00:52:02.409 --> 00:52:04.989 other episode we've done, please hit us up on 00:52:04.989 --> 00:52:07.309 our social media channels. 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It said, f*** Montana. Yeah, pretty 00:53:25.090 --> 00:53:27.449 much. Let's do this before I overheat and have 00:53:27.449 --> 00:53:32.690 a hot flash on live podcasting. Okay. It's fine. 00:53:32.809 --> 00:53:35.849 It's what happens. I'm just imagining what. It 00:53:35.849 --> 00:53:37.989 was like 87 today. Yeah. It's supposed to be 00:53:37.989 --> 00:53:40.590 like 34 in like two days. It's hot here. And 00:53:40.590 --> 00:53:42.809 it's 87 today. In California too. I just don't 00:53:42.809 --> 00:53:45.190 imagine like what a hot flash would be like on 00:53:45.190 --> 00:53:50.809 a podcast. It's just me heavy breathing. It's 00:53:50.809 --> 00:53:55.369 hot. I'm hot. Well, that's the thing is like 00:53:55.369 --> 00:53:58.630 the humidity kicked in like yesterday. Yeah. 00:53:58.670 --> 00:54:01.349 And I, I mean, I've got asthma. So like. Right. 00:54:01.690 --> 00:54:04.250 And I've got asthma and I'm pregnant. And so 00:54:04.250 --> 00:54:10.610 I can't breathe anyway. So I'm just like, I'm 00:54:10.610 --> 00:54:16.949 just like. And now it's hot on top of it. So 00:54:16.949 --> 00:54:21.289 I'm just like. All right. Well, here goes a good 00:54:21.289 --> 00:54:22.869 recording. This morning's a real thing. It's 00:54:22.869 --> 00:54:25.610 great. Let's go. Leaving us with a chilling scene 00:54:25.610 --> 00:54:31.519 of black cloaked Vader. Nope. Black. Cloaked 00:54:31.519 --> 00:54:38.039 Vader. Vader. Vader. It's revealed in Rebels 00:54:38.039 --> 00:54:41.400 that Rex actually removes his inhibitor chip 00:54:41.400 --> 00:54:45.460 before Order 66. Blah, blah, blah. It's revealed 00:54:45.460 --> 00:54:48.179 in Rebels that Rex actually removes his inhibitor 00:54:48.179 --> 00:54:51.920 chip before Order 66. Oh my god. I got this. 00:54:52.320 --> 00:54:56.000 It's revealed in Rebels that Rex actually removes 00:54:56.000 --> 00:55:00.340 his inhibitor chip before Order 66. Good God. 00:55:00.400 --> 00:55:06.780 One more time. Here we go. The kind of last thing 00:55:06.780 --> 00:55:12.960 that struck me in these couple of episodes. Sorry, 00:55:13.000 --> 00:55:16.260 I'm going to redo that. Please do. That sounded 00:55:16.260 --> 00:55:21.900 rude. Go ahead. No, that's fine. Please do. You 00:55:21.900 --> 00:55:31.579 better. I think it really is just the most pivotable. 00:55:32.980 --> 00:55:36.500 Pivotable. It's pivotable. Pivotable. You can 00:55:36.500 --> 00:55:45.320 pivot on it. Pivot. Pivot. I can't say sick as 00:55:45.320 --> 00:55:50.699 fuck, can I? Don't. Even. What is the word I'm 00:55:50.699 --> 00:55:57.920 looking for? Fucks with him. Sorry, editors. 00:55:58.570 --> 00:55:58.769 Bye.