Welcome to Fandom Shmandom, the fandom podcast
that covers everything you love and more. I'm
Sierra Obermark. And I'm Sam Williams. In today's
episode, we will be spitefully spoiling about
the myth, the legend, the YA movie of the decade.
Come for us, Spider -Man. Anyways, it's K -Pop
Demon Hunters! Yes. Without further ado, we will...
As Roger Smith says, dive on in. So get up to
88, because it's time to travel back to our story
recap. Please keep in mind, if you have not yet
finished watching or started watching or in any
way completed K -Pop Demon Hunters, this podcast
is full of spoilers. You must know this now.
You will be spoiled. So go and finish it. I mean,
we're not, as Aurelia, our producer, would say,
we're not your mom. But please go finish watching
it. And then come back. Yes. We'll be here. Yes,
we will wait here patiently. We have a job to
go to, so you should do it quickly so that you
can release us from your earbuds and we can go
back to work. Because that's the way it works.
We're like leprechauns. We're hiding inside your
earbuds. Yes. The people inside the magic box.
We're trapped. So, the world has been set upon
by demons for every iota of the Earth's time.
However, but every generation, a group of, you
guessed it, singers has protected the world with
their song. Powering something called the Hanmoon
and driving the demons back into their world
where they are ruled over by the demon baby death
lord, Gwima. This generation, the honor falls
to a K -pop group called Huntrix, a group of
three young women named Rumi, our main character,
Mira, and Zoe, who sing ballads while bludgeoning
demons out of this world. Having been trained
and essentially raised by former hunter Selene,
who was in the group with Rumi's mom before Rumi's
mom died, our three protagonists are prepped
and ready to slay. We see them fight and sing
and perform amazing stunts, and the Honmoon begins
to glow gold, a sign that it is being strengthened
into a permanent barrier between the worlds.
But Guima cannot allow this to happen! He takes
up the offer of a demon singer, Jinu. who plans
to create a demon boy band and steal Huntrix
fans. Those fans' love, support, and souls power
the Hanmoon. So if they go, so does the power
of the Hanmoon. In celebration of finally seeing
gold in the Hanmoon, Huntrix leader Rumi releases
their next single, Golden, to great success.
Even though Mira and Zoe were really looking
forward to couch, couch, couch, couch, couch,
couch. But a challenge arises. As they prepare
for their promo, Rumi's voice begins to fail
her. Mira and Zoe are supportive and try to help
even though they don't know the reason why. Rumi
is half demon and her patterns, how hunters can
identify demons in disguise, are starting to
reach and strangle her voice. While trying to
find a cure for her voice. The girls literally
run into the Saja Boys, a new boy band who perform
their new song, Soda Pop, to great enthusiasm
from adoring crowds. During their performance,
the girls realize the boys are demons and set
about trying to kill them before they steal any
souls. Mira and Zoe are all in on plan kill Saja
Boys. But after having a one -on -one conversation
with Jinu, Rumi realizes that hashtag not all
demons. Jinu has found out Rumi is not entirely
human either and wants to find her shame, the
thing that keeps demons attached at the hip to
Guima, so that he can use that to break the girls
apart. But now Rumi feels torn and wonders what
else she might not know about demons and subsequently
herself. Jinu feels torn because he sees himself
in Rumi as someone struggling with their circumstances,
too. Plus, like all good YA male romance options,
he really doesn't want to be bad. All he really
wants is to be free of Guima. The two meet a
couple of times, always facilitated for their
honor, by a tiger named Derpy Derp McDerpster.
No, it's just Derpy, but I want it to be the
whole thing. And... A hat -stealing bird named
Sussy, who, let's be honest, they are the real
stars of the film. And Rumi and Jinu continue
to connect and learn about each other's pasts
and fears and dreams for the future. As Rumi's
stress comes between her bond with Mira and Zoe.
and the Saja Boys steal the hearts and souls
of more and more people, the Han Moon starts
to fall apart. Demons are everywhere, and the
Idol Awards are Huntrix's last big chance to
close the Han Moon forever. Rumi approaches Ginu
with a plan. Let Huntrix win the Idol Awards
and stay on this side of the Han Moon once it
closes, ridding the world and Ginu of Guima and
Rumi of her patterns. He agrees, but then is
pulled down by Guima, who scares Jinu into believing
that there is no escaping his past. Everything
seems to be going well at the awards, but during
their performance, Mira and Zoe are tricked by
Jinu and the demons into abandoning Rumi on stage,
while demons disguised as them expose Rumi's
patterns and make it seem as though the group
has fought and broken up. No longer able to hide
her patterns, Rumi approaches her friends, but
they don't understand how she could have lied
for so long. Rumi runs to Selene and begs her
to end this, to just kill Rumi, because demons
must die. When Selene refuses, Rumi asks why
Selene could never love her, all of her. and
declares that if the Han Moon means that all
demons are evil and must be separated, then that
isn't the Han Moon she wants to create anymore.
The Saja Boys are performing One Last Time and
have wormed their way into the minds of the public,
drawing crowds of hypnotized people, all feeling
the Saja Boys are their only escape. As the crowds
begin to march towards Guima himself, ready to
give their souls, Rumi appears, no longer hiding
who she is, and breaks Mira and Zoe from their
trances to fight the onslaught of demons. When
it appears they are close to winning, Guima attacks
Rumi himself, but Jinu blocks him, sacrificing
himself for her. She draws a new blade with the
power of his soul and defeats Guima and Huntrix
creates a new Honmoon. A short time later The
girls are finally enjoying some relaxation, and
Rumi is able to be fully herself, her patterns
visible to her friends. They greet some young
fans, and the camera pans up to our favorites,
Derpy and Sussy, above a Huntrix comeback sign.
End of recap. And now, it is time to welcome
in our guest for this episode. Who has very graciously
bequeathed us with her presence. A big welcome
to Emma Mayer, a .k .a. Emma M. Shelf. Hello.
Hello, welcome. Hello. Thank you for having me.
Thank you for coming on. All right, Emma. So
here's the deal. You're going to tell us four
different things. So I hope you can remember
this. Okay. And you can't read it at all in the
dark. Close your eyes. Okay. No, I'm kidding.
You're going to tell us a little about yourself.
Okay. You're going to tell us how you got into
K -pop and K -pop Demon Hunter. You're going
to tell us which soda pop you choose and which
Huntrix. He's your soul. Now, I have to ask there.
Did you mean Soda Pop? Because I don't drink
soda. Or did you mean Saja Boy? Because I...
I do mean Saja Boy. I also don't understand which
Huntrix is your soul. Which Huntrix is your soul.
Yeah. Which one of them is you? Is your soul.
Down to the very soul that you are. Yeah. Right.
So, I can never remember the name Saja Boys.
And so, to me, they've been the Soda Pops. Not
the Soda Pops. So when I was watching your Halloween
videos of the Saja Boys, I'd be like, ah, the
Soda Pops. And Heidi would be like, what is Emma
doing? I'd be like, look, it's the Soda Pops.
And Heidi would be like, oh, she's the Saja Boys.
That looks great. They did a great job. And I'd
be like, who? Heidi thought that? Thank you.
Oh, yeah, of course. That means so much. It was
awesome. Yeah. So you're clearly not a big fan.
Certainly not. It definitely, like, yeah, no.
I can talk about my costume, too, but it really,
it was mostly for the kids. You know what I mean?
Oh, yeah. Mostly for the kids, but definitely
also for us. We definitely thought there were
going to be a bunch of kids wearing, like, the
Huntrix costumes. Like, I was expecting a ton
of roomies and Miras and Zoes running around
this neighborhood. In fact, we only saw one roomie,
and that's okay. But everybody recognized us.
So that is what mattered. That's exciting. And
because we're all adults who do not go to parties
on Halloween and instead stay home to help the
kids trick or treat. Thank you very much. Yeah.
We have nowhere to go. So we were like, what
are the kids going to recognize? And there were
five of us. So it was like perfect. That's awesome.
Incredible. Absolutely perfect. But yes, anyways,
I'm Emma. I am actually a bookstagrammer and
a grad student. And that is a shameless plug.
Thank you for calling me MM Shelf. Go ahead and
give me a follow. And not Korean. So I definitely
feel very out of my depth talking about this
movie. But I will do my best. Excellent. As will
we all. And if you are Korean and you know a
lot more about this, please get in contact with
us. We'd love to have you on to talk about it
as well. But until then. Welcome, Emma. Thank
you. An average white girl. And you live on 1255
Fairfax Road in Fairfax, Virginia. That's not
my address, by the way. Oh, I would totally 100
% certainly give out your real address on a podcast.
It's just like the beep. um yeah okay wait so
how i got into k -pop um i got into k -pop quite
a few years ago i was a journalist working for
newsweek at the time and um what am i allowed
to say that i was working there yeah it's my
it's where i was working okay i was a journalist
did you sign an nda for them i didn't think so
But my brain was like, maybe. I don't know. I
blurred that time of my life out, to be honest.
Anyways, I was writing an article about BTS at
Newsweek where I worked as a journalist. And
so I started listening to their music while I
was writing this article because I was like,
I want to know who they are. And I have a very
obsessive personality. So when I get into something,
I like I really get into something. And so BTS
just like latched into my my. little brain that
was like so sad and lonely at the time and um
and they were really good at that and so um So
I've mostly been a fan of BTS. I've dabbled in
some other groups, but BTS has really stuck.
And yeah, so as far as K -pop demon hunters go,
I saw it on Netflix. I put it on my list of things
to watch, but it actually was my mom who watched
it first, like by herself. She probably doesn't
want me telling people that, but I thought it
was so cute. Shout out Emma's mom. She lives
on 1322 Shorby Way. Birmingham, Alabama. One
day you're going to come up with a fake address.
It's going to be correct. And it's going to be
correct somehow. Yeah. You're a few states off
this time, but that's okay. And so, yeah. Anyway,
so my mom watched it and called me and my sister
and was like, you guys have to watch this. And
so we did. I think literally that night we just
put it on and had my mom on FaceTime while we
were watching it because she wanted to watch
us watch it. And it was so much fun. It was so
much fun. So, yeah, in terms of, you know, which
soda pop I'd choose, I feel connected to Mystery,
mostly because I was him for Halloween this year,
which was exceptionally fun as well. And I think
he's obviously the most mysterious of them all.
He's kind of the Zayn Malik of Saja Boy's One
Direction, which is very entertaining to me.
Yeah, yeah. So which Huntrix is me? I will say
I wish that I was Mira so badly. I wish I could
look you guys in the face and say, I am Mira.
Unfortunately, that's definitely not who I am.
I am probably more Zoe than anybody else. My
sister and my roommates agreed that they think
I'm most like Zoe as well, too. Don't have the
main character energy for me. Do not have the
badassery of Mira. Who does, though? Have you
ever met anybody that you've been like, that
person's roomie, that's crazy. I've met people
who think they're roomie. Right. Just listen.
And those people are all actually demons, so
tricks on them. But yeah, so definitely most
like Zoe, who is so lovely and fun, and I love
her. Yeah. Fantastic. I will let the audience
know. That the only reason why we are having
this podcast in the first place is because once
upon a time, I went to school at Oxford. And
so did Emma. And Emma asked me randomly in the
Exeter College Courtyard, have you listened to
Demon Slayer? Nope. Have you listened to K -pop
Demon Hunters? Getting back on here. For another
podcast to talk about Demon Slayer. Absolutely.
And I'm all about that because I love anime as
well. Yes, absolutely. Sierra, have you watched
Demon Hunter? Demon Slayer. Sierra, have you
watched Demon Slayer? I have not. Okay, so that
when we're done with all the other things this
year, you can watch that. Yeah, do that. That
sounds great. I'm going to take you all back
and share with you. The only reason why we're
having this podcast is because once upon a time,
I attended Oxford University. And so did Miss
Emma at the same time. And we were sitting in
the Exeter College courtyard and she asked me,
Sam, have you watched K -Pop Demon Hunter? And
I said, no, but my wife is watching it right
now. And she said. Well, you got to watch it.
And I said, all right, great. And then she, you
know, proceeded to bring up one of the songs.
It will take you six years to guess which one
of the songs she played for me. Emma, do you
even remember? I do remember. Oh, good. Okay,
Sierra, take a shot. Which of the songs do you
think Emma played me first? To play for some,
I mean. I feel like it can't be golden because
of this setup. I feel like the first one that
I heard was Your Idol. So it could be. The first
one that my daughter heard was Soda Pop. So that's
also a fairly good option. But I'm going to go
with what it sounds like. Emma, would you like
to reveal? I played Free. In the middle of that
courtyard. Very nice. Over a glass of white wine
that cost me eight pounds, we listened to all
of Free out loud while people were doing things.
Yeah. It was great. I was sitting there sipping
a cherry Coke being like, this rocks. Later that
night when I called Heidi and was like, hey,
listen to a Demon Hunter song. She's like, oh
my gosh, which one? And I was like, Free. And
she's like, okay, I'm glad you like it because
there's a lot of great songs if you liked Free.
I love Free. It's great. It's not slanderous.
I'm just saying. When you think about K -pop
Demon Hunter, most people are like Golden or
the Dis song or Soda Pop. Any of them. Not Free,
normally. I thought you'd like it. I found K
-pop Demon Hunters in a similar way to Emma,
where I saw it on Netflix and I was like, ah,
another one of those things. Maybe it'll be interesting
and then didn't think anything about it. And
then one of my friends sent me a workout video
to, I want to say how it's done. It was like,
we have to do this. Actually, it was with Brit.
Oh, excellent. Our editor. Yeah, so our friend
sent it to both of us at the same time. I was
like, we got to do this together. And I was like,
what is this from? They were like, it's from
K -Pop Demon Hunters. You haven't seen it yet?
And I was like, no, I haven't seen it yet. And
Brit's like, you got to watch it. It's really
good. And our friend is like, you really got
to watch it. Okay. Watch it tonight. Get the
kids and just all watch it together. And I'll
FaceTime you while you watch it because she wanted
to see my reaction. That's so cute. I love that.
That's very cute. So it's the same thing. So
when you were saying that that's what your mom
did, I was very excited because that was the
same thing. That's what my child's mother did.
That's what I did. So I made a little fort. And
we sat and watched it and it was very exciting.
And I only saw about three quarters of it the
first time because I had a baby crawling all
over me, but it was still great. And then I rewatched
it and I've probably seen it. 10 plus times since
my daughter's watched it at least 15 times she
watched it three times back to back to back on
a plane not long ago so i've lost count i actually
almost did that too on my flight home from london
i downloaded it and i watched it i watched it
once and then i almost put it on again and i
was like i feel like i can't But you can. But
I should have. It is your life. 100%. You're
an adult. I mean, you are closer to Sierra's
daughter age than you are mine, but that's not
true at all. I was like, how old is your daughter?
Four. Okay. Okay. But you were the person who
I shouted out the other day that was like, Ricky
Martin. Oh, yeah, from Shrek 2. Oh, he's the
one who does that song from Shrek 2. Yeah. Livin'
La Vida Loca. That's this Emma, Sierra. No! No!
No! So be warned, friends. If you hear your name
in a blooper reel, you are cursed to come on
as our guest. Oh, man. Okay, so a question for
you, Sierra. Who would be your soda pop? Who
would be my soda pop? Yes. Oh, goodness. You
know... I think I have to go with Genu and just
be basic about it. I don't know enough about
any of the others. I just don't. Okay. That's
fair. That's valid. And then who would be your
Huntrix soul? I think Emma. I think I'm right
there with you. I think I'm Zoe. I don't have
main character energy, nor do I have the upfrontness
to be Mira. Although... That would be cool. I'd
probably rather be roomy than Mira, but I think
I'm Zoe. And it's not to say that we're like,
you know, this is no Zoe slander either. She's
a wonderful character. She is so empathetic and
loves her girls so much and loves what she does.
And it comes at it with like joy and excitement.
But she's just, and she's still a badass. Yes.
Absolutely. Especially when she raps. Especially
when we have to bleep swear words on this podcast,
Emma! Oh, sorry! I didn't realize even bad a**
as I say it again. I'm sorry. Yeah, we do. Good
to know. Sorry. I should have asked. She's a
bad butt. I hate that. I hate that more. Oh,
I'm gonna have to get creative. Here we go. so
sam yes same questions ah which soda pop would
you choose sparky's root beer listen i know g
news no yes got it nailed it the name g news
g news okay g new i know g news name and i now
know mystery's name because emma said it And
that's where my knowledge of names go. But I
will describe this man to you. Yes. I will tell
you which one it is. I think I know who it is.
Continue. If you take Justin Bieber's hair from
2007, 2008, and you turn him upside down for
a moment, and you put him in a southern hemisphere
toilet, because it's not swirled the right way
for northern hemisphere toilet, and you flushed
it, and then you made this man... come back up,
and then blow dry his hair, that would be the
one I would pick. Abby. I think Abby, too. Abby?
Is that the one in the Hawaiian shirt with the
abs? I have no idea. It's the one that Zoe likes.
Well, Zoe likes Mystery. No, that's Mystery.
Oh. It's the one with the really, you know, his
eyes are covered constantly. That's Mystery.
Do you know why he's called that? Because his
face is a mystery. Oh, wow. Yeah. And Abby is
because he's got abs. He's got abs. No, not interested
in that one. Let's be real here. I am too insecure
for Abby. I would be constantly doing crunches
all day every day if I wanted Abby to be my soda
pop boy. I totally thought you were going to
pick Baby. Baby Saja? I thought you were a Baby
Saja guy. The rapper. Baby Saja is the little
rapper. I thought Baby Saja was going to be your
man. But when I hear him, I hear the rapper from
Squid Games in my ear balls and I really loved
that character but could not stand that character.
Is that T .O .P.? That's his name in real life,
right? Is it? Fantastic. Incredible. No, I'm
going with Mystery, which apparently I now know
his name. Good for me. So, okay, wait. There's
Genu, and then the rest of them all have, like,
nicknames? They're Abby. It's Abby Saja, Baby
Saja, Romance, and Mystery. His name is Romance?
Yeah, the one with the long pink hair. Because
it's like he's on the cover of a romance novel.
Okay. Alright, that makes more sense. So they
picked one guy that could go around and have
fun. The other guy had to do constant crunches.
The other guy had to remain a mystery. And then
this other guy needed to be swaddled? No. That's
what you do with babies. I know, but it's more
just like he's the youngest. He's probably the
makine. Okay, so he's Emma. Yes. Sure, sure.
I am also the makine. I am the oldest on this
podcast and it bothers me to no end. By like
a smidgen. By a month -shmonth. We appreciate
your wisdom, Hyung. Oh, thank you. My lack of
Soda Pop name -boy people. To answer the other
question, which Huntrix is my soul? Yes. I just,
I have always felt like no one has truly understood
who I am. I just, there's this deepness inside
me that I feel like no one can get to. And I
just, like, at, like, a lake, I feel deep. And
so... Emma, just in the back. Oh. Oh. Oh. No,
um... You're being millennial cringe right now.
I know. This is so millennial cringe. Okay, um,
in all honesty... I too would like to say Mira
because she is my absolute favorite, but I, there's
that scene right at the beginning where they're
all very upset to have found out about demons
on their plane. And Zoe shouts in discomfort
and disgust with fries in her mouth. And I'm
like, that's me. So I think I'm going to have
to go with Zoe as well. Although I, I do have
the ability to be as upfront. And unnerving as
Mira. But I'm just not as cool. She's just too
cool for me. I really think that the marker of
whether or not you could be Mira. Could you wear
a sleeping bag to the Met Gala? I would. I'll
give you that. Now, would people think it's cool?
I think they'd think I'm homeless. So I think
that's the way that that would go. Good. All
right. So now that we finally finished up all
of us answering all of those questions, welcome,
Emma, to our podcast. Thank you so much for having
me. I'm so excited. Time for a reality check.
How did this movie get off the ground? Well,
Maggie Kang, the wonderful Maggie Kang, wished
to tell a story that was deeply rooted in Korean
culture. She is a Korean, born in Korea, raised
in North America, and wanted to show the world
her culture and celebrate it, just the same as
other cultures have been known and celebrated
across the world. And she felt as though Korea
had been a little overlooked and wanted to really
get it out in the open. So the original concept
was around demons and demon hunters, as well
as the Jiosung. or the Grim Reaper, which is
where the name Saja in Saja Boys comes from.
The K -pop element was actually added a little
bit later in the story development, and Maggie
became pretty excited to turn the Sajas into
idols, saw that really cool opportunity, which
is pretty fantastic. Maggie also really wanted
to make sure that a lot of the mythology from
Korea made it into the film, and that it also
included the style of them. fitting into the
style of the film, just like all of the demons
that we see, the demons on the plane, the water
demons, really showing their traditional style
and not having that get lost within the animation.
There was also a goal to make the film for a
broad audience so they could tackle adult themes
like shame, isolation, self -acceptance, etc.,
while also being accessible to younger audiences.
And I think we can definitely say that succeeded.
So what was the critics' reaction? Overwhelmingly
positive. It has a 96 % on Rotten Tomatoes. And
to give you a taste of some of the critic responses,
we've got Kevin Mayer from The Times. That's
in the UK. A fresh score. And he said, K -pop
Demon Hunters articulates these battles in metaphor.
And it also offers a giddy, glowing, and eventually
roaring release. Kelechi Ahanulo. From Empire
Magazine said, An animated film showing you how
it's done, done, done, as Huntrix would put it.
This is a stunning musical treat. A joy for all
ages. Now warm up the vocal cords and bring on
the sequel. So, a huge, rousing, raging success
from critics. And also, amazingly, it's got a
99 % on the popcorn meter on Rotten Tomatoes,
which is the fans' reaction. Which I... Up until
this point, kind of thought it was impossible
just because of how much review bombing happens.
And it feels like, per the people that usually
like to review bomb, a Korean pop movie doing
well would have been rife for that, and it wasn't.
That's just how incredible this movie is. And
we can also see that with the fan reaction, because
it basically has become an obsession for many,
many, many people. Younger audiences. Surprisingly
to the developers of the film, the younger audiences
actually picked up on the more adult themes that
they put in and also found that it resonated
with them and their friendships and their lives.
Even in my small town, there were three roomies
and a Zoe on Halloween, and I was able to point
them all out very excitedly to my daughter, who
luckily was very happy being a witch this year.
Most parents that I know say that their kids
watch the movie and listen to the soundtrack
over and over. And also many adults and parents
without their kids around also just listen to
it and watch it on their own. So I think that
that really proves that broad audience success
that they were going for. It's also taken over
social media. There are so many theories and
noticings. All of these jokes of parents being
more into it than their kids, which really crack
me up. And I think the impact of this movie on
general fans is best summed up by this post that
I saw. For those of you who fixated a little
too hard on K -pop demon hunters, how's that
Felix effect treating you? Because it has created
an enormous surge in K -pop fans in general,
many of whom gravitated towards... Such bands
that they thought were similar to the Saja Boys.
So you've got ATEEZ, Stray Kids, even a resurgence
in BTS as well. Now that they're all back. A
resurgence. A resurgence. This movie's just really
created a huge snowball effect into all of these
different aspects of the music industry and film
and animation. All of those things. I went to
the movies when it got brought back for a sing
-along version. And, gosh, this was in, like,
August, I think. And the theater was absolutely
packed. So it was me and my sister, who's 20,
my roommate, who's 21, me at 25, and then my
mom. We get it! You're young! Good God! And me,
25. Oh, my God. Freshly 25. But we were there,
and we were surrounded by... little kids and
and a bunch of little girls and their moms and
you couldn't hear the film over them and they
were quoting the movie along with like the lines
they weren't just singing along like they were
speaking every single line along with that's
amazing and it was so annoying at first like
we were like why like why do they have to and
they wouldn't sit down they were just so excited
And so we were sitting there, you know, adults
in a kid film going, why won't these kids sit
down? And I think my mom left for like 20 minutes.
She was overstimulated by the kids talking before
we all were like, you know what? Like we're in
their territory here. Like we need to just like
enjoy this with them. So we ended up just like
singing along as loud as we possibly like. I
think my roommates and I, we were yelling the
lyrics of this is what it sounds like. My mom
came back with a Marg. Like, we all had a blast.
It was so much fun. But, yeah, we won't be doing
that again for kids' movies. I'm seeing the long
versions anyway. I have a follow -up question
because I do not know what a Marg is. Oh. Margarita.
Margarita. Cool. Am I allowed to say that? Oh,
okay. Yeah, you're allowed to say that. Your
mom is. Your mom is, I believe, above 21, is
she not? Indeed. Yeah, indeed. I know you guys
are all fairly young, but my assumption is she's
going to be older than 25. But yes. Yeah. So
we had a blast. It was so much fun. But the kids
just, like, are obsessed. I do feel like for
some of these, you have to start putting an age
bracket for which sing -alongs you're letting
people go to. Like, hey! This one's for teenagers
are up. This one's for under 12. See, and the
thing about that, though, I will say is, like,
we were not the only adults in there either.
Right. I'm sure. And that's, like, the point
of this movie is it is so gripping to every single
kind of audience, like Sierra was saying. Like,
you have adults watching it. On our own. Without
children. And it is just so much fun. And so,
yeah, when my household and I dressed up as the
Saja Boys for Halloween, we had the music, the
soundtrack playing very loudly. On the street
while people were trick -or -treating. And we
had – I will, like, probably never forget this
because I thought it was so cute. But we had
just, like, a big mass of kids coming all at
once. And everybody was dancing and singing along
to Soda Pop. And you just had, like, these little
kids who were in their costumes. And they were
just – we were all just singing Soda Pop. And
it was so much fun. Like, that's the point of
this. It's so fun. And I don't remember the last
time a movie did this. Like – Yes, you do. I'm
going to tell you right now. You were like 14
when it happened. Okay? And it was the scourge
of everyone's existence. Let it go. Let it go.
You're right. I completely forgot about Frozen.
So this is the biggest thing since Frozen. Blocked
it out of their head. You're right. I don't care.
About that movie anywhere. Yeah, I think Frozen
was the last time that I remember this happening.
And I find this is so much more palatable because
as much as I liked Let It Go when I first heard
it, it's a Disney ballad. And like any Disney
ballad, if you sing it too much, it is too much.
But so far with this music, I have been very
like. This is awesome. This rocks. No, the soundtrack
is incredible. And I even had a friend on Instagram
ask me for more song recommendations, like K
-pop song recs that sounded like your idol. And
so I made like a whole playlist. And it just
got people so into like all kinds of different
K -pop bands because the songs themselves are...
And the songwriters, and I know that the singer
who played Rumi's singing voice did a lot of
the writing as well. And, like, just incredible.
Like, absolutely incredible. It's been amazing.
Keep your finger on the pause button and rewind
that tape. It's time for the prestige category
of what did we notice on this watch through?
Okay, instantly. On this watch through today,
when I rewatched the movie again, I was instantly,
instantaneously amazed at how well the movie
gels. Like, it's just so right off the bat. The
trio's chemistry, right? Their animated chemistry
and the voice acting chemistry immediately is
instant. And so is the humor. And so is the superhero
level powers that don't feel rushed, right? These
big moments, they jump backwards out of an airplane.
It took Spider -Man Into the Spider -Verse 100
minutes before he jumps backwards off. And, right,
that is one of the all -time best moments in
animated movie history. So I'm not trying to
directly compare it to that. What I am saying,
though, is that sometimes when you're world building,
if you rush the superpowers too much, it can
feel like you're overloading on it. And, like,
it's unearned. But because this group gelled
so well with introducing the plane flying off,
taking it to the wrong place, that demons are
on the plane, that they're going to kill them.
We see a flash of their weapons coming out. We
see the demons turning into actual demons and
having conversations. And then you're just able
to instantly buy into, yep, this is how powerful
they are. Without any complaints of like what
we see in Star Wars all the time, right? With
Mary Sue talk. Like people, I think we're willing
to buy in instantly. Something about how good
that writing is in that movie sets this off on
such a like speed. It helps that you have a song
playing that is perhaps one of the best ones
on the soundtrack at the same time. Like, and
it just, it really just like, like you're in
it and you're like, okay. I think it was that
song exactly that made me sit there and be like,
this is phenomenal. Oh my gosh. I'm going to
watch this movie. Tell you that right now. I'm
going to keep watching. Absolutely. I also feel
that the way that the art styles blend together
works so well. I didn't necessarily notice all
the, you know, exaggerated facial expressions
and all of those the first time that I watched
it. But now every single time that I go back
and watch, I feel like I find a new one in a
new moment. And I think that the one I think
that the first time that it really sparks off
is when they're angry or no, sorry, when they're
shoving all the food in their faces. because
it's so unrealistic in the best possible way
just all of the all of the like sushi rolls and
all of the snacks and everything and just cramming
their faces full of food and then the absolute
fury over not being able to eat the pre -show
ramyeon is amazing oh i love it uh speaking of
I think the person who's most upset is Zoe, but
Mira is also very upset. And I will, I will just,
hands are right here. I know I already said she's
my favorite, but instantly in this scene, I'm
like, she's cool. She's powerful. She's hot tempered,
but understanding. She is this perfect dynamic
side character. Somebody who is a complex, right?
In a short amount of time, like. There's really
not a whole lot of time given to anything in
this movie outside of Rumi's main storyline and
her relationship. And yet I find both of her
sidekicks extremely well written and complex.
I think the thing for me that was also so gravitating
about Mira was both of her voice actors, Audrey
Nuna and May Hong, who do... the singing and
the dialogue their voices are so hot like they
have they have the hottest voices and she is
so sultry but also like do you know what i'm
talking about absolutely the timber of her voice
is just like She has a depth to her voice, a
deepness that resonates with her character in
a way that is very attractive, especially with
the way that they designed her face painting.
Not just from a makeup standpoint, but the composition
that they give her skin and everything as well.
From a color theory perspective, it's really
well done. And I think it's supposed to evoke
that sort of reaction from you. She reminds me
a little bit of Rosa Diaz from Brooklyn Nine
-Nine, if you've ever seen that show. Yes, I
see that. korean rosa it feels like i'm like
this is incredible on the flip side though we've
got the soda pop boys and i which i whatever
i just love mystery a ton but i think they're
all a very very funny dynamic and i think that
the the leaning into the like sort of uh the
fact that boy groups get made fun of all the
time and that they just decide to make fun of
it even more but that these these demons are
sort of making fun of it, but also living their
best lives as these Soja Boys. Not Soja Boys.
Soja Boys. Soja Boy told them! The Soja Boys.
Especially just from that opening move in front
of Guima. They're trying to pitch, and then they
do the move. And Guima's like, what the heck?
But Guima's so desperate to not be utterly destroyed
or closed off from Earth that he's like, all
right. My favorite thing is that he goes, how
do you expect this to work? And every single
time we watch this, my daughter makes me say
it along, where they have the little moment of
the sultry music in the background and the hair.
flipping from side to side as they're transforming
from demon into a boy band member. And then it
cuts to the demon standing behind them. Oh yeah,
that'll work. That'll totally work. I really
wish they got Patrick Warburton for that one
line. Oh, my gosh. See, that's the guy who plays
Kronk, Emma, because you're so young. Oh, yeah.
No, I know who that is. I just, his name didn't
register. Patrick Warburton. I've seen Seinfeld,
too. I just didn't. Yeah, he's in Seinfeld. Well
done. Good job. I will send you a cookie through
the mail. Yay, cookie. Yeah, I wish they got
Patrick Warburton to do that, because, you know,
he has that famous line in Emperor's New Groove.
Oh, yeah. That'll work. It's all coming together.
Oh, my gosh. No, I love mystery so much. The
part where he starts barking during the fan signing.
Like, my sister and I had to, like, pause and
go back and watch that several times because
it's so quick. Like, so quick. Never explained,
ever. Why is he barking? And then the way Zoe
just smacks him. Bad Saja boy. Like, what? And
then we just move on. Like, what? It was so good.
I really want to know that he was a dog that
got turned into a demon. Somehow. Some way, some
shape. Yeah. That's why they call him that, babe.
I've seen theories that he's somehow Mira's brother.
that there's some crazy thing because when you
when you see the family portrait at the beginning
there's the three of them and her and then when
you see it later then the you see the parents
later but you don't see the brother and they're
wearing similar earrings or something like that
and oh maybe something happened to him and that's
why the parents don't talk to her anymore and
there's a huge huge theory that somehow he is
her brother who became a demon and something.
And that's, they're backing it up by saying,
oh, well, Mira and Mystery never interact. It's
always, and they never fight each other and they
never have anything to say to each other, which
I think is very interesting. I don't know that
I can get behind it, but it is interesting. It
does not explain the barking. It does not. Maybe
that's why his face is covered. Maybe that is.
Maybe that is why. So that she doesn't recognize
him. I find that intriguing as a fan theory and
totally something that I'm going to chuck out
the door. It feels like a fan theory that's cool,
but like, no way. It's kind of like when people
were like, did you know that Ron is the Half
-Blood Prince? Because his cousin was a muggle.
And it's like, hmm. No. You tried. You did. You
tried. You tried. You did try. But you failed.
Take your 11 -year -old self off the internet
and go cry about it. Because I may have been
the one who said that. I may have written a very
long fan post about it on a major fan thing.
Got a lot of views and a lot of hate. It's cool.
I'm totally not scarred at all. The lore that's
being revealed right now. Who knew it would be
spoilers? Severus Snape! We're no clues. There
are quite a few really cool fan theories. I've
seen Guima as Rumi's dad. That is one I don't,
I can't get behind either. I don't really see.
I really hope it's not Genu. I got to tell you
that. Well, that would, no. What's wrong with
you? The flat tire that Emma's brain just took.
While processing that, what is the reach? No,
he has to have purple hair, or else where did
Rumi get that from? Right, of course. Couldn't
have dyed it. Not at all. Which is literally
the only reason why. Well, no, because she's
got purple hair as a kid, which is why I think
it is natural. Which is where people are coming
up with the Grima as her dad, because his flames
are purple. But that one's a far stretch to me,
however. would make a really, really great prequel.
Yeah. Yeah, you're all about the prequel, huh?
You want to see what happens? I am all about
the prequel. That, to me, is even more interesting,
honestly, than Genu and Rumi is the romance between
a hunter and a demon and the fact that they have
a kid. Like, I need that explained immediately.
I also want to hear 90s K -pop, for sure. Oh,
it's so good. Yeah, because Rumi... Born in the
90s, let's hope. Cross our fingers, Sierra. Is
she old enough? She's a 2004 baby. Sorry, guys.
No! How old are they supposed to be? Does anybody
know? Probably your age. Rumi and Mira around
23, 24. Zoe at around 22, 23. So, that's interesting.
Okay, so. 2000 to 2000. three babies yeah it
would be very interesting also it would be very
interesting to me to see a bit of prequel as
well to like figure out how zoe came from america
to korea to join this group like was it and how
did they get chosen to be a part of this obviously
roomie is you know In the family, which I actually
have seen people say like real K -pop fans would
not really like that because nepotism is kind
of something that in a lot of these groups gets
looked down upon, which is very interesting to
me. But yeah, trying to figure out like how they
all came together, how they got chosen for this
role instead of just being a normal K -pop group
would be very interesting. Yeah, totally. Guys,
can we talk about Jinwoo and his betrayal of
his family? Yes. Because I do feel like that
took me by surprise. Like, his initial story
was tragic, but it didn't quite actively paint
him to be, like, a villain, you know? But the
truth of, like, what he did when we find it out,
abandoning his mother and sister to the slum
so that he could live in the palace instead is,
like, actually insanely bad. And I guess I'm,
like, I just found myself reflecting on that
after. And saying, like, I'm really glad they
actually did that for his story, because I think
a lot of the time in kid movies, the demon doesn't
actually end up being a demon. You know what
I mean? Like, it would be... Yeah, I killed somebody,
but he was actually a super bad guy, and it was
for this poor family that needed bread, because
I'm Jean Valjean. Right, exactly. And this is
where you get the Hugh Jackman impression. But,
like, what Genu did was, like, actually genuinely
very bad. And I think, so that's what, like,
to me, that's what made his death so much better,
too, is, like, retribution, I suppose. Retributionable.
Retributionable. And supposedly, here's another
fan theory for you guys. Supposedly, also, in
the beginning sequence, when we see, like, the
first demon hunter. trio they save a woman and
a young girl from demons and i've seen people
say that that was genie's family which is very
interesting i don't know if there's any merit
to that as well other than they look the same
but the very first they don't look exactly the
same though yeah yeah so they could just be older
well because i saw this and i i went and i looked
yeah and i went back and then i went forward
and i went back and i went forward multiple times
and they're very similar but it could Just be
the animation. But I also feel like why would
you make them that close? Yeah, that's my point.
If there wasn't something there. Yeah. To go
back to what you were talking about, I think
it is imperative to the story's plot point that
his sin was a lot worse. Because when I was watching
this movie the first time and I went, that's
it? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. He's going to
reveal something more later. I can taste it.
Like it was, it was in my bones with this idea
of like, he is not being particularly forthcoming
and this is going to bite his bottom later. And
it did, did bite his bottom later. But, um, I,
if you don't, I think it removes the emotional
stakes quite a bit and it makes his death a lot
less impactful because this is someone who's.
genuinely a bad guy right he is selfish this
is the epitome of evil in the way that he is
separating himself out right in this time and
in this culture this is you know we're still
in a patriarchal form of society in korea this
stage of of their history he is supposed to be
taking care of his family and he abandons his
little sister and his mother the woman who birthed
him to the cold unforgiving arms of outside the
palace. And I, that, that's, that's a big mistake,
dude. Unforgivable. Yeah. When I watched it for
the first time, because obviously, as I said,
I had a baby crawling all over me. And so I couldn't
pick up on every little detail. I thought it
was his wife and daughter, which would have been
way worse. Sisters and mothers everywhere going,
no, it's not. I mean, But think about it, though.
Yeah, I know. I'm sorry. Abandoning your wife
and child is worse than abandoning your mom and
your sister. Both horrible. But what I thought
and then I'm like, and now he's over here 400
years later and doesn't still doesn't care about
said wife. I was very confused for a while. How
am I supposed to be invested in this guy's romance
when his previous romance went so poorly? Exactly.
I was very confused for a short time until I
figured it out. Oh, it's his mom and his sister.
Well, that's way better. Way better. Just slightly
less bad. Oh, okay. He may kiss Rumi now. But
he doesn't. But he doesn't. He doesn't. He gets
very close. With the flames of Guima at his back.
Dun dun dun. No! Well, I actually skewed the
open mic for his death. He died. Or did he? Or
did he? Speaking of, the animation, including
those sort of animated tricks around when Guima
is absorbing people or not, or consuming them
in fire, all that animation is just crazy good.
I was so impressed when Into the Spider -Verse
came out, because that animation was mind -boggling.
Per any person that gets interviewed on any podcast
or article at all that works in animation, they're
like, this is next level groundbreaking, like
super incredible sort of stuff, like original
Pixar level going to change the industry type
of thing. And I feel like we are seeing an iteration
of. Alright, so this is what now good animation
looks like that's coming out of that sort of
Into the Spider -Verse realm. And I'm just very,
very excited about that potential of what animated
movies can look like now. No comments. Good.
Okay. Oh my gosh, Emma. You came up with a thumbs
up on the thing. Okay. Also, Guima's voice? Super
cool. But... Does anybody else get a bit of vibes
from the Prince of Egypt there? Anybody know
what I'm talking about? You mean like God? Yeah,
the burning bush. Which is a really cool scene.
But I feel like they listened to that and they
were like, that's what our demon sounds like.
So I actually got that plus Calcifer. Calcifer.
From Howl's Moving Castle? You hear Billy Crystal
and Guima? No, in the visual. Oh, in the visual.
This is what happens when you put Calcifer in
a god body. Exactly. You put Val Kilmer and Billy
Crystal together, you get Guima. No, just the
animation was very Calcifer -esque. And then
the voice. And so just all together, it was slightly
disorienting because I was like, Kausa for now!
Why would you do that? Also, you sound unlike
Billy. Although I did recognize Lee Byung -hun's
voice, like, immediately. Oh, yeah. Which was
very exciting. Which character is that? So he
plays the front man in Squid Game. And after
watching him play that, like, that... terrifying
role to be honest watching him play a little
purple flame that is supposedly eating people
was very fun and i definitely really liked that
he didn't make guima like a big scary demon like
he was just like kind of this this all -knowing
flame amorphous flame that sometimes eats people
which i guess is where you're getting the valkylmer
god vibes from so i see that i see that continuing
along with this film it is a very important moment
to note when i fell in love with the film which
was the appearance of a little hat on a bird
and a and a big old blue tiger uh but really
the bird i gotta tell you uh they are legit This
is sussy and derpy. They are legit my favorite
characters, and I don't know that that will ever
change. You could write a whole nother much better
movie, and this is already a great movie, and
it could not have those characters, and I'd be
like, it was not worth it. Nope. So my friend
who told me to watch this movie, she warned me.
She goes, I'll tell you. When the main character
shows up. I was like, okay, sure. I'm going in
with absolutely no information other than I had
heard your idol. And so I had figured based on
listening to that, the boy band was going to
be bad. So from there, I went and I started watching
it. You know, I kind of am watching and then
I look at her and she goes, nope, not any of
them. I was like, okay, I guess it's not any
of these main characters that are the main character.
And then we get introduced to all the guys and
she's like, nope, not any of them either. I'm
like, okay, what is happening here? And then
that one. And I was like, yes, this tracks. The
second I saw. Because you see them walking through
in the demon world for a moment with Jinu, but
they look relatively normal for that world. And
then this first time you see them appear in the
human world, you're like, ah, yes. I shall love
you forever. And I love the fact that we find
out and we get the visual of Jinu. Like, in the
demon world, making a little hat for a little
bird that he found. Like, what? It's very quite
cute. It is so cute. Okay. Now that I've talked
about my favorite part of the movie, we must
talk about the actual legitimate complaint I
have about this film. Which is, there's this
sequence that happens as soon as their manager
sort of gets kidnapped all the way up through,
right before we have the sort of... climactic
song where Rumi breaks the other two free and
they start fighting. And the reason why I have
a complaint here is because it feels a little
bit rushed. We have this, you know, sort of huge,
for lack of a better term, sort of a come to
Jesus moment where Rumi is like, I'm a demon
and this Han Moon is not the one that I want
to work for. I want to work for something else.
And Selene, you should kill me and my best friends.
abandoned me and they're so mad that I was, you
know, lying to them for years and years and years,
which all it gets dealt with on a surface level
and not really in depth. And that's, I think
my biggest complaint is that there's just not
enough development of the other two friends,
feelings diving into that. Now they don't like
the way that they set it up. They just don't
have time where we're now rushing towards the
end. But I think that's the main problem with
the movie is that we needed a little bit more
time through the journey. about this instead
of boom now you know and we have to fight so
now you're just back to me and in addition where
it's like oh wait has celine been the other real
villain this whole time yeah kind of but she's
in the movie for like six seconds so there's
not a real moment to sit with it now this might
get fixed over time um if we get more movies
and we get more in -depth conversations but Because
this is the solo story and Selene ends up being
such the big baddie who's been like, no, I can't
love all of you. The demons are bad. And Rumi
has this realization, no, all of me needs to
be able to exist. And this isn't just going away
when the Han Moon closes. That moment there is
just whoosh, we whoosh right by it. And here
we are into the big fight because the real storyline
is her and her beau. I think, yeah, I do feel
the same way. We have the whole scene with Rumi
and Selene, and I feel like it definitely should
have been expanded and dive into Selene's thoughts
maybe a little bit more. And, you know, we have
these flashbacks here and there of her saying,
you can't tell them, they won't understand, they
aren't going to like you anymore, essentially,
which is kind of rich coming from her, who...
only likes the part of her that represents her
mom. And it's very troubling. And then also we
get Mira and Zoe's snap into being taken over
really just by one line. You don't deserve a
family and you are too much and not enough, which
are both very, very intense thoughts to have
and lines. Clearly, these are thoughts that they
have had and now they're giving into, but they're
not explored really in the rest of the film,
except for one line in Golden for each of them
at the beginning. And the moment that Zoe has
with Dr. Han, who peers into her soul with big
bulging eyes. And it's really not clarified what
happened with... mira's family you know did she
just want to become an idol and they didn't understand
that is there more to it was she just too different
what's going on there we also have no information
about zoe's family at all we know that she was
raised in america and then we yeah we don't know
how she got over here we don't know where her
family is so We do know a little bit. The only
thing I do know is that her parents are divorced,
and one of her parents was in America, one was
in Korea. And so I do know she is a child of
divorce, which I think shows a lot in her character
when Mira and Rumi fight. And she is very, very
concerned about the group, about their relationship.
And making sure they get along. So they gave
her a little bit of that depth, but I completely
agree with both of you guys. I think that they
definitely could have been far more fleshed out.
I think Selene is the one I said, you know, in
a prequel would be amazing with her story. But
also, I'm maybe under the impression that in
order to try to understand how Selene was raising
Rumi, you would have to see her entire relationship
with Rumi's mom, which would take a lot longer
than they can maybe put in the film. Seven TV
episode series, here we go. Seven seasons on
the way. No, I'm in total agreement. I think
the last thing that is rushed in this latter
section is also Rumi not only having her patterns
spread and affect her voice, but now she has
demon abilities. I have demon powers! Now I know
how to use them instantly. Exactly. And I think
it's a little odd. And there's not even a moment
where she tries it. She just does it. And so
we don't get any of her understanding, oh, look
what I can do now. And we don't get any explanation
as to why exactly. The only thing that I can
think of that would mirror that is when Genu
is explaining how he started transforming into
a demon and the pattern started expanding on
him. Then he became more and more and more demon.
And then he was transported into the demon world
for the rest of eternity. And so it's just very
unclear because Rumi is only half demon, how
she can have these powers, but isn't getting
sucked into the demon world, but might, but keeps
her patterns, but now is on the other side of
the Han moon. Can she still teleport? I really,
really, really thought we were going to have
her at some point struggle so much with being
bad for a second that she was going to hear Guima.
I thought that moment was coming. As soon as
they said, oh, you don't hear him in your ear,
I thought, here it comes. We're getting like
a Harry Potter scar moment where it's going to
blare for a second. But no, we didn't. And that's
okay. And I keep juxtaposing this movie with
Into the Spider -Verse, I think mainly just because
those are... my two favorite animated movies
of this decade um and and they have obviously
similarities both animation wise in terms of
just like the absolute awe that is created through
this and also with superhero elements now into
the spider verse is like a movie about gaining
powers so the moment that they lead up to in
the climax where he finally you know what i am
in complete control that's not what i'm asking
for when i'm asking for a moment to pause to
see That Rumi is like, oh, now I understand it.
And boom, she's got powers. I would like that
moment. And instead it's just like, bloop, bloop,
bloop, bloop, bloop. And I've transported myself
many places, many times. And it just kind of
comes out of nowhere. And that's a little disappointing
in that moment. I feel like you could give like
two counts of a song to, oh, okay. And here we
go. Which we don't get, and I think kind of is
needed for that moment for me to be completely
sunk into that story. Yeah, I agree. I see that.
As a writer, though, I will say, as a writer
who struggles immensely sometimes with trying
to explain things, you can get away with it in
kids' movies. I feel like maybe adults are the
ones who are like, and why didn't, like, how
did she know? But the kids are like. You know,
and that's what's so fun about even, even, you
know, I'm trying to write like a children's chapter
book of my own. And it's like, I constantly tell
myself to sit back and relax because I don't
need to explain how every little thing works.
The kids don't care about that. So I just, I
know, I know, I know, I know. And I'm, I'm inclined
to almost say like, because. The demon parts
of her were always there. It almost just seems
like something that she can just all of a sudden
do because the powers have surfaced in their
entirety, manifested. They can't do what they
do in the other demon thing, Demon Slayer, where
they take like 35 minutes out of a movie in order
to explain how this kid is getting this power.
So I get that. That was like a whole hour for
just the one. I'm so happy to welcome you eventually
into this fandom, Sierra. You will be just as
frustrated and in love as all of us. It is so
fun. It's one of my favorites. Yeah. You know,
you don't always have to face down a horde of
angry soldiers by yourself. Buckle up, Schmisseners.
It's our Sansa is smarter than John category.
What is the most important character moment of
this movie? For me, I believe that it's Rumi
deciding to embrace who she is and make a new
Honmun. I think right up there with that is Jinu
obviously sacrificing himself and, you know,
giving himself a little bit of a redemption arc
there at the end. You both make wonderful points.
And you're both right. But what about when the
bird appears? I think, Emma, I'm going to have
to go a little bit on Sierra's side because I
think I have the sacrificing himself person in
a different section coming up as well. So when
we get to important... and iconic scene i think
that's where that's gonna land for me so i'm
gonna give my slight vote over to roomie deciding
to embrace but i could you well then so will
i i think because i do think that's more powerful
too i agree i was just trying to say something
different oh you're so you're so great i'm just
trying to be different no i agree i agree with
you guys too how mirror of you I don't know if
that's to me or Emma, but thank you. Emma, for
trying to be different. I know you just lost
a hand, both of you, because I won with the bird.
But listen up. It's the I am your father category
for most iconic character moment. Derpy knocking
over the plant. I will take no arguments or broker
any questions at this time. Yeah, that's hard.
I think for me, it's the one and only dialogue
line that baby Saja has on the game show. When
he leans back and goes, goo goo ga ga. And that
to me just is like everything to me. I really
could go either way on both of those. I think
I have one other to put in there. And it's not
an honorable mention. It's the winner for sure.
Have you guys considered when the bird appears?
Mine is pretty much... Very bird -oriented. Pretty
much that answer. It is when the bird appears.
Slightly. But it's just not focused on the bird.
I mean, when you put Derpy knocking over the
plant, that got me hook and sinker. I did not
think, Emma, that you would be able to come up
with anything else that would beat it. And man,
does that tie it for me. Because that is an incredible
moment. So good. So excellent. Everybody sit
down. Wait, or Abby's shirt. I'm so sorry to
interrupt. No, do it, do it, do it. Go. Or Abby's
shirt flaring up in the wind every time he like
walks by and then is like, yeah, that one's always
looking at me. Incredible. So good. Just the
popcorn eyes. Everybody. Sit down. It's time
for our I am Iron Man. Most iconic and most important
scene category. Here is where I would put Genu
sacrificing himself for Rumi and to defeat Kuima.
I just think that that whole sequence of the
beam coming towards Rumi. And then it doesn't
reach her. And he's there. And their dialogue
in that moment is very sweet. And it's a very
pure moment, I feel. And then he disappears.
And then she draws his soul as her sword. And
it's fantastic. Okay, I'll come up with something
else. And I'll say the moment when Mira and Zoe.
both break out of the curse and sing along to
This Is What It Sounds Like gave me goosebumps
the first time I watched it. And then when they
harmonized for the first time in that first rendition
of the chorus, that one for me was like, okay.
I really, really like that. I've seen a number
of people say this, and I am inclined to agree.
They go, How is everybody so excited about Golden
when what it sounds like is right there? For
real. I know. It's so good. It's incredible.
It's so powerful. It is the one that gives me
chills every single time. Yeah. The moment that
they give to harmonize and they pause in like
a way better version than Five Golden Rings is
just incredible. I only thought of the Muppets
one with Miss Piggy every time she sings that
one. Incredible. I'm so glad that that joke went
super well. Both of those scenes are really great.
I do have something else to put forward to you.
I think if you were to go back a little... I
hate you so much. Man, that really got me. I
think if you were to go back to earlier in the
movie, there's a moment here that is just as
important and just as iconic as either of the
two scenes that you've mentioned. Have you considered
when the bird appears? No? Because I think that's
the winner for all three of those sections. It's
the most iconic. It's the most important. It's
the most iconic and important scene. The bird
doesn't even have to do anything. It just has
to appear. Fine. It's all good. As a bonus, everybody,
on per our usual categories, we are reaching
deep into the archives to find that... Camino
isn't there. It's our Jack Sparrow did what category
for deleted scenes that make a major impact on
the story. Sierra, what deleted scene was there
in this movie? There was an aquarium date and
potentially a kiss. You can see some of the animation
and storyboarding for said aquarium date. Where
Rumi and Jinu would have met up for another time
and would have spoken more and gotten closer
and all of those things. But they ended up not
putting it in the movie. Dang. That sucks. I
know. It would have been cute. I think the reason
why I'm angriest about this is because they're
dates. are all facilitated by the bird and i
want more bird in this movie excellent well good
i'm glad that was there what a crazy little tidbit
to put in i'm glad they maybe kissed question
mark question mark question mark well there was
so i believe that the that the backstory of it
was that they ended up not putting a kiss in
the movie because they took the aquarium date
out and because then it would have made their
relationship feel more rushed and so they wanted
to have it slowed down and so they removed another
time of them interacting one -on -one so that
it didn't feel on that pace and so they didn't
want to put the kiss in so they took the date
out slash vice versa they went together Amazing.
I will say, too, there were several songs that
got cut and I wish they hadn't because I would
have taken as many more as possible that EJ had
to give us. And unfortunately, there were a few
that got cut. And I think one of them actually
was like a roomy, like sad solo ballad of like
embracing and. really understanding like the
the breakdown of her patterns and then the embracing
of it supposedly i could be wrong but that's
what i think i read and um that would have been
great so what i'm hearing is that we need them
to release a ep of the additional songs that
they cut out we need to release all of them yeah
Release the songs. Release the songs! One of
the things that I think they're genuinely missing
from a musical perspective is a duet with Celine
and Rumi at the beginning and a duet with Rumi
and Celine at the end. Rumi being hook -sinker,
following all the different rules, kind of feeling
self -conscious about it, watching her cover
up her patterns. And trying to be happy and good
about it. And then at the end, her breaking out
of that. I think even if you don't have Selene
for any other scenes, having two songs with her
would have been extremely impactful for the story.
That would have been really interesting. Well,
it's so interesting actually that you brought
that up because now I'm thinking like, obviously
they sing in this movie, their songs, which classify.
Yes, which classifies it right as a musical,
but I wouldn't consider this a musical not with
like, with the sound of the songs. And like,
it's definitely not theater. Like it's very,
it's very rooted in K -pop and K -pop traditions
and K -pop sound. And I think that that's what's
so interesting about it too, is like, until you
said that, I did not think this was a musical
at all. Yeah, well, and it's, and I think the
main reason is that, you know, we have, you know,
you go back like, 30 40 50 years and there's
a lot more movies where it's an orchestral background
where the action music doesn't have words to
it now we have a lot of action with songs that
are you know have actual lyrics to it and what
they've done is they've taken those songs and
just replaced it with their main characters singing
it so it doesn't feel like we're actually in
a musical it feels like oh this is just the normal
soundtrack going on it just happens to be sung
with the exception of maybe soda pop which i
feel like is a Is a genuine, like, musical number
that comes out. I don't mean the group. I mean,
like, the actual song when they sing it feels
like a musical number. Nobody else was thinking
of the group when you said Soda Pop. Lovely.
Sounds like that. Anyways, super embarrassed.
Moving on. I'm sorry. Keep your horses safe.
It's the, I'm gonna make him an offer he can't
refuse. category of best lines fit check for
my napalm era i gotta say this is by far my favorite
lyric out of any of them i'm just obsessed with
it it's so addictive so good i'm walking around
my house all the time saying saying that yep
saying i almost did it and then i got embarrassed
But I need your take on that to live on the internet
forever. Okay, wait, let me try to do it. Fit
check for my napalm era. Yes! That's so good.
Yes! That was amazing. Oh, that was great. I
love it. I'm obsessed with it. Good. Excellent.
The internet loves this, and the internet is
never wrong. That's a great line from the manager.
Bobby. Bobby. All right. Choo -choo. That was
fantastic. That's when she's getting made fun
of her pajamas, right? Yeah. When Genie's like,
trained. But first, we need to talk about those
pants. Teddy bears and trains. Choo -choo. Oh,
my gosh. Play games with us. Another Genie. Yes.
And I also didn't know how to put in his maniacal
giggling as they're running away as a line, but
I think that that should be in the whole line.
That's too good. The leather has betrayed us.
That's when they're going down the slides, right?
Into the ball pit. What is the fan, the fanboy
that they turn to in this? crown during this
scene when he's like watching them come down
and he's like yes yes it's the same one who ends
up like ripping his shirt off underneath yeah
uh who can do that magicians demons obviously
zoe had so many cute little one -liners like
the the one where they're coming to sit down
at the meet and greet and she's like i don't
want to sit next to it and then which one is
i think it's a mystery that sits down she's like
what's up what's up why does the bird wear a
tiny hat I made it for the tiger, but the bird
keeps stealing it. If we were picking a winner,
I'd throw all my weight behind this, as you both
know I this one. And then, away from the humorous
lines and into the more impactful ones, why couldn't
you love me? I do. All of me. Yeah. That is so
good. I wanted to set you free. You did. You
gave me my soul back. And now I give it to you.
That's a good one. Another good one. It is so
much better than any love confession could have
been. Like, I love you means like literally nothing
compared to I give you my soul. Like, that's
incredible. For a kid's movie. Pretty phenomenal.
Yeah. I'd put it right up there with I love you.
I know. Or. I love you. It'll pass. Oof. Oh,
that was a good one, too. That's a great one.
Yeah, yeah. Get me back on here to talk about
Fleabag someday. Absolutely. I could talk for
a long time. I love Fleabag. Fleabag's great.
Another thing that Sierra's never seen, and we
will never have time to do any of this fun stuff.
Shoot. I gotta say, the one thing about doing
this is we don't have time for anything else
when we're doing podcasting stuff. So we're like...
It's been Star Wars and Stranger Things since
April of last year. That's all we've done. So,
Emma, I found K -pop during this pod. This. Do
you know how difficult it has been to not fully
fall into the K -pop hole? Yeah. Yeah. Wait,
who did you find? I have to know. Straight kids.
Okay, good. Excellent. Oh, yeah. Yeah, hook,
line, sinker, all the way, 100%. Who's your bias?
Felix. Yeah. Although a bias line is forming,
and I'm kind of upset about it. Okay, okay, who?
Hyunjin. Yeah. And I was thinking that Han was
going to be in it for a little while, but I'm
becoming very Minsung shipping. Oh, interesting,
yeah. And so... I feel like I'm betraying Lino.
No. But I also feel like Han and I are like the
same person. Han is perfect. Han is so perfect.
I love Han Jisung. He's so cute. He's so amazing.
He's so cute. Sam has fallen asleep. Yeah, it's
fine. It's fine. I'm watching Kingdom Legendary
War right now for the first time and it's very
exciting. Dear Lord, Sierra. You are invested.
Look at that. Look at that collection. We love
an invested woman. You want to see? I'll show
you my BTS bathroom. I'll send a video of my
BTS bathroom. My roommates and I. Listen, Sierra,
whatever it is that you think that that bathroom
looks like is not what the bathroom looks like.
I'm very excited. It's incredible. We have spent
a lot of time and money on it. That's very exciting.
Yeah. Yeah. I will say most of these are from
a used place, so there was nothing in them. Yeah,
it's called thrift book shopping. It's great.
Sad. You didn't get all the fun stuff, though.
Emma, when you say we've spent a lot of time
and money on the bathroom, I think it's important
that you fulfill the rest of the context of that
sentence, which is the where. That it was spent
at. A lot of time and a lot of money at McDonald's.
Now I know what this bathroom is going to look
like. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Now I know. I'm
very excited. I'm even more excited than I was
before. It's even more intense than you think
it's going to be. You have no idea. I'm so excited.
I haven't eaten. We haven't been able to eat
at McDonald's since, by the way. It's impossible
to eat that now. I've gone through sympathy withdrawal.
Not really. Okay. So you may think that I'm going
to discuss how the best line is the bird chirping,
but you would be wrong. The best line is not
in English. It's also not in Korean. You might
be sitting there, dear listeners, missioners,
and thinking. Why is Sam doing a little soap
op moments about his best line thing? Because
it is the best thing you will see all day. I
want you all at some point to open up whatever
social media thing you want to and search the
term Italian Zoe. Because the Italian version
of K -pop Demon Hunter has the best line of any
of them. When they're sitting in the plane and
they're eating. And those demons come out, and
they're like, oh, shoot, it's the demons, and
they're all mad. And Zoe has that mouthful of
fries moment. It's way better in Italian than
it is in English. So everybody go and watch that.
That's the best line, even though we're not picking
winners. But that is it! I will air the other
questions! Okay. Ladies and gentlemen, if you
would please now board the TARDIS. We are going
to be exploring the what -ifs of this universe
with our Get Out category. What are the biggest
what -ifs provided by this movie? I've got three
that I'll just throw at you all at once. We can
discuss kind of en masse. What if Rumi is killed
by Selene? What if Rumi isn't accepted by Zoe
and Mira and they lose? What if Rumi joins Guima?
I'm inclined to say the first two, and especially
the second, just wouldn't happen. Because they
love her so much. They love her enough to look
past the patterns. So I just don't think that
there is one in which Zoe and Mira wouldn't accept
her at some point. So if you're Marvel, and I'm
pitching you a what -if episode, you would just
go... No. Throwing it out. Thank you. Next. Yeah.
Okay. There's no. So I understand with Zoe and
Mira for sure. I think there's a lot of contextual
evidence to say like this just literally was
never in the cards. But you don't think there's
an ounce of Selene that is like, oh my gosh,
she doesn't want to work for this Han Moon that
I've been working for forever. She's going to
continue to be demon. This is her dad coming
out. I'm going to kill her before she ruins the
whole world. I certainly think that could be
a possibility, especially considering I think
Selene. appears to have a fear of demons that
the girls don't seem to have um which could be
you know i don't know i'm almost like newer generation
thinking about things that aren't as scary as
older generations think they are and i think
that celine's sense of duty would certainly cause
her to do that and i think that was the fear
that she had in place from the very beginning
having to raise roomie having to tell her to
cover things up i think that if roomie did come
into a moment where it seemed like maybe she's
going to accept this demon part of herself i
think celine would have a sense of i have to
do what i am supposed to do yeah yeah okay fair
enough what if roomie joins guima though and
was like i don't It wouldn't happen. No. I mean,
I don't think that it would happen like that.
I think the only way that Guima could really
tempt Rumi with going to the demon world would
be if he claimed to have information about her
father. Because Selene has clearly not told her
anything, if anything at all. And so if we have
any information about, you know, I know who your
father was or something like that, or I can take
you to him or anything like that, potentially
Rumi could temporarily join forces in order to
find out that information. I don't know how that
would necessarily impact. guima's current plan
which just seems to be to absorb as many souls
as possible and to stop the hon moon from reforming
so that the demons can spread throughout the
human world at some point then there's no humans
and it's all just demons so it seems a slightly
short -sighted plan but see most villains don't
have long -term goals i think we're yeah that's
true uh me get power then nothing um no i think
see i think that we're we're moving towards a
sequel here we're at the very end of it sort
of like in an empire strikes back or stranger
things sort of way where things are now cascading
into it being sort of bad We've got Rumi agreeing
to go down to the demon world, whether it's to
save Jinu or to get answers about her father,
or because Guima has offered her something that
the powers that be up above cannot, which is
like, all right, you want a chance to learn and
to actually save these demons? Come join us or
else you'll never see anything like this. And
I think that's where we're headed. And I really
hope that they don't try and overplay. Oh, is
Rumi going to join the demons? It could be fine
if Zoe and Miro were like, what is she doing?
But the audience knows that it's all for good.
But I don't want a situation like with Lucas
in season four of Stranger Things where you're
like, will he join the psychopath basketball
men? No, he won't. And that was just kind of
not my favorite storyline. So I hope they don't
do that with Rumi. Yeah. I don't know. Back in
September, I wrote... brit and our other friend
my plot for the sequel to k -pop demon hunters
maybe this is the time to read on patreon you
guys can find this on patreon sierra will record
it and we'll put it there so when we when we
finally do roll out our patreon which you'll
see on on social media when we finally do that
it will be there and you guys will hear it perfect
yes excellent my what if What if Genu followed
through on the plan and didn't sabotage Huntrix?
It wouldn't happen. Throw it away. My favorite
answer. I think this one is interesting because
I think that obviously we know the sabotage was
the catalyst for everybody. In Rumi's life, finding
out who she actually is. I think they would have
actually won the Idol Awards. I think that the
Hon Moon would probably have been sealed or at
least would have gotten like 99 % there. You
know, like I feel like because that was their
end goal. That was if we perform golden at the
Idol Awards, the Hon Moon will be sealed. So
I think I think that if they were able to do
that. It would happen, but I just feel like there
would be something that she's missing there that
would, you know, eventually become her secret
getting out in another way. And I don't think
that, like, I don't know what that looks like,
but I don't think that it would be just sealed
all as well. Her secret is safe. See, I think
what happens is, I think this is going to lead
to Rumi's... almost demise where it succeeds.
The whole mood closes and she starts to, to fade
like all the other demons. And it would take
Rumi and Zoe being like, no, we want to, we love
all of her. And Celine being like, you cannot
open, you cannot stop this from happening. Like
this sucks, but you got to let this go. And Zoe
and, and Mira being like, absolutely not. And
breaking it open. And then them being like, we've
got to fight for something different. So I think
it's a very similar ending, but I think the emotional
stakes are actually a little bit better. I actually
really like that. Yeah. I'm a great writer, turns
out. As a writer who never struggles, Emma. No,
I'm kidding. I had no idea. Wow. I had no idea,
Sam, that you were a writer. Oh, okay, cool.
It's me giving Emma a furious face for the audio
-only fans, which are everybody. Next category.
Everyone off the stage. Cue Gandalf questions.
Questions that need answering. Is Genu really
dead? It's the only thing worth asking. Mm -hmm.
What about the other Saju boys? Okay, that's
a good question, too. And how exactly does this
new Honmoon work, and how is it different from
the old one? All right, all right. I stand corrected.
These are all good questions. There's more than
just, is Genu dead? But is Genu dead is huge,
right? It's kind of the, there's going to be
a sequel. He's going to be back. He's not actually
dead. This is silly, but he's not dead. Right?
We're all in agreement? I don't know. Okay. I
don't know. I kind of feel like he should be
dead. You come into my podcast. No, I'm kidding.
And defy you. I really, really like Genu, and
I love Genu and Rumi. I wish that we had gotten
so much more of them. But I feel like, I feel
like, unless... See, and this is also trying
to answer like, what is this new Hanmoon? Is
the new Hanmoon, did it kill Grima? Or did it
just put him back down in the demon world? And
in that case, then maybe Jinu's soul is still
there. I do think like, but can we get it back?
I don't know about that. I think Grima is going
to end up being like Oogie Boogie in A Nightmare
Before Christmas, where he's just filled with
the souls of everybody else. So as soon as you
sort of split open the seam of his fire, it's
going to be like... Sort of Hercules -esque where
all the souls come out. What I think is there's
a really dark moment in this movie that often
gets overlooked. And it's the part where the
newscaster is talking about all of these missing
people. And it's showing the wall of missing
people. person's posters and so you have so many
people who have who are dying and getting their
souls taken like do they come did they come back
at the end too did their souls get released i
don't think so so like all of these people are
just dead that's like so crazy dark we think
yeah so i guess if they can come back somehow
then i suppose genu probably could as well would
you be more satisfied with a new boy furumi in
a sequel no Yeah, okay. I think that's the point
for me, too. I think if they put too much emotional
capital into Genu and Rumi's relationship, and
so if you're going to have a sequel, there has
to be a way to get him back. You know, maybe
Adam Driver could create that movie, and then
we could get, instead of the hunt for Ben Solo,
we can get the hunt for Genu. Oh, no. So, because
we've done some fan theories, there was one fan
theory that I saw. It does appear that, so this
part is not fan theory. It does appear that Rumi
creates her new sword out of Jinu's soul as he
releases it to her at the end. And then she uses
the sword to then attack Guima. Kill, question
mark, whatever. There are some people who then
listen to the continued song of what it sounds
like and hear an echo. That almost sounds like.
Genu singing. People have detected. That it is
just. How do you say her name again? Celine.
EJ. So people have detected. That it is just
one of EJ's. Many many. Vocal qualities. That
is just layered underneath. But. That would be
very fascinating. If he is like living on. as
part of her slash part of her weaponry, I suppose.
How beautiful. Yeah. That's so interesting. And
if that is the case, rather than him being somewhere
else, then potentially they could find a way
to extract him from there. Whether or not it
is him singing. Right. Yeah. I like that. I have
the most important question here. Which is, when
will we get a bird and cat spinoff? If this was
produced by Disney, we would have multiple shorts
by now. Yeah. Right? And also, like, this would
be, like, Penguins of Madagascar, this would
be that, right? Yes. Certainly. Maybe someday.
Yeah, they need a few cinematic shorts, for sure.
Rip open that candy wrapper and show us your
golden ticket. It's the Veruca Salt Award for
a piece of memorabilia we really, really, really
need. I need a Funko Pop burb. That's it. Just
the burb. I don't need derpy. I love derpy, but
I just need the burb. That's it. I would like
the tiny hat. But it's animated, Sierra, so you're
not going to be able to pick it up. Yes, make
me a... 3D version of the tiny hat. Okay. You
got it. That's what I want. And I would really
like a series of small figures of the Saja Boys
to be put in all of the McDonald's Happy Meals
for the next four months that I can go and spend
a lot of money on to collect them all, like I
have done before. BTS, BTS, BTS. All right, great.
Dust off that card deck and get ready to shuffle.
It's our Joker category for who is the MVP of
this movie. I think there's maybe just one answer.
It's Derpy slash Sussy, and we will not be taking
questions at this time. None. They are so iconic.
There are balloons for them at this year's Macy's
Thanksgiving Day Parade. That makes me so happy.
I saw that they were practice flying today. I
was like, wow. Incredible. That's so good. Right
there with Snoopy and all the good things. And
Pikachu. And Pikachu. Yeah. Today's public service
announcement is don't trust fire ever. It can
burn down your house, burn up your favorite stuffed
animal, and also eat the souls of everyone you
know and love. So go out and buy that fire extinguisher
today. Excellent. Thank you. Thank you, listeners
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Thank you. Oh, great. And thank you again for
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podcast is full of spiders. I mean, spoilers.
It's full of spoilers. You must. A group of singers
has protected the world with their song. Powering.
Wait, you wrote this. What is it supposed to
be? Is it powering the Han Moon? Good. What did
I say the first time? Powered by? Powered by.
Oh, fuck me. Okay. My bad. You think I could
read? I'm an English teacher. It's fine. Trying
to throw me under the bus. I'm sorry. Okay. Now,
Britt, I'm going back three more words. And every
time I mess up, it's even further back until
we start the whole podcast over. Here we go.
To great enthusiasm from adoration of crowds.
That's not how you say that at all. Wait, you
said kill them? Maybe think of Ever's new group.
I'm going to Tokyo! Absolutely, yes. Sorry, Emma,
you're at the front seat of our stupidity. No,
I love this. This is so fun. Our tagline is basically,
if we entertain you a fraction of the amount
we entertain ourselves. They continue to connect.
Oh, no. It sounds like I'm saying Derpy and Sussy
are the ones connecting. And... Wait. Here we
go, Brett. One, two, three. Nope, I forget what
their names are. Genu and Rumi. There it is.
Here we go. Thank you, Sierra. Okay. And Rumi
and Genu can... And Rumi... Now I've got the
giggles. It's okay. I got this. And the Saja
boys steal the hearts of more and more people,
which means... Wait, that doesn't make any sense.
Correct. You wrote this. Yes, it works that time.
Ridding the world. Nope. Ridding the world and
Genu of Guima and Rumi. Nope. All right. I see
the sentence. My bad. Ridding the world of Genu.
Ridding the world. I didn't realize I'd be nervous
in front of you, Emma. I'm like, no, there's
a person here now! Am I the first guest on the
podcast? First guest that we've cared about,
certainly. Oh, how kind. Who was the last one?
Well, we've got my friend Garrett on as an expert,
and we've got Aurelia who's been on, and of course
we care about them, right? You're the first,
like, guest. Got it. We've got an expert and
we've had the producer on. So you are our first
guest. Yes, for sure. But yeah, I can mess up
in front of Garrett and Aurelia, no problem.
I'm honored. Now I'm like... You can mess up
in front of me, too. It's okay. Sure. Be professional,
Sam. I just will never forget it. That's all.
Okay. All right. Good. Good. All right. Okay.
Rumi runs to Selene, her stand -in proxy mama,
and coach. We can take that out because we did
end up explaining her. Yeah, you're right, you're
right, you're right. Rumi runs to Selene and
begs her to - Sorry, the line moved on me right
then. Okay. I didn't realize you were going to
delete it. A short time later, when they're all
wearing glasses to show how time has moved on.
That's an inside joke from our Stranger Things
pod, Emma. To show that time has passed. To show
that time has passed. Emma's wearing glasses
suddenly! Okay. My K -pop journey is still mostly
BTS, although I have dabbled in some other groups,
both of the girl and boy form. But is that a
weird way to put that? I think it was the transition
from dabbled... Into, and like the slowdown.
The girl and boy form. Into both the girl and
boy forms. Wink. Let me go back, let me go back.
Quite the huge, oh my god, what is the, what
am I trying to say? Like, not get the ball rolling,
but it's been a tidal wave of something. Oh,
oh, right. Or like snowball effect? Yeah. Thank
you. Thank you. Thank you. So you're going to
go on all of our podcasts. You don't have to
be a guest. You just have to sit there and give
us what we're trying to say. Okay. It's like
a producer of words. Yeah. Almost like a writer.
Yeah, you're going to be a writer. But you're
just going to Keira Knightley it with signs.
Yeah. It's carolers again? It's the 18th podcast
in a row where it's carolers. Oh, man. Pause
on the podcast as we look stuff up. This is the
song that I sing when Sierra does the stuff.
Not at all. This is the first time I've done
this. I do normally sing random songs. Mainly
to do with fandoms. I know. Prequel in like...
Sorry. In, like, how? It was just a really funny
sound. It sounded like you were a raccoon jumping
on a trash can lid. Jumping. Sorry. All right,
Sierra, go for it. You know. Emma, wait. Actually,
sorry. Sorry, Sierra. I gave you the. Yeah, go
for it. And then immediately it was like red
light. Okay. Cool. Go for it, Sierra. Wait! I'm
kidding, I'm sorry. Keep your horses safe. It's
the I'm gonna make him an offer he can't refuse
category of best lines. You've gone, you hit
it there for a couple of puns. I went too bad.
You've gone like Batman. I'm gonna make him an
offer he can't refuse. I know, I can't do it.
I'm gonna redo it. Okay, here we go. Ready? I
wanted to make fun of you. It's all in the lip.
It is. I'm going to make him an F. He can't refuse.
That was great. Keep it. I mean, it had the tone.
Thanks. I appreciate your pity. That's what I'm
here for.