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Welcome to Fandom Shmandom, the fandom podcast

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that covers everything you love and more. I'm

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Sierra Obermark. And I'm Sam Williams. In today's

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episode, we will be spitefully spoiling about

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the myth, the legend, the YA movie of the decade.

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Come for us, Spider -Man. Anyways, it's K -Pop

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Demon Hunters! Yes. Without further ado, we will...

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As Roger Smith says, dive on in. So get up to

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88, because it's time to travel back to our story

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recap. Please keep in mind, if you have not yet

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finished watching or started watching or in any

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way completed K -Pop Demon Hunters, this podcast

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is full of spoilers. You must know this now.

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You will be spoiled. So go and finish it. I mean,

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we're not, as Aurelia, our producer, would say,

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we're not your mom. But please go finish watching

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it. And then come back. Yes. We'll be here. Yes,

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we will wait here patiently. We have a job to

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go to, so you should do it quickly so that you

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can release us from your earbuds and we can go

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back to work. Because that's the way it works.

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We're like leprechauns. We're hiding inside your

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earbuds. Yes. The people inside the magic box.

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We're trapped. So, the world has been set upon

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by demons for every iota of the Earth's time.

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However, but every generation, a group of, you

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guessed it, singers has protected the world with

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their song. Powering something called the Hanmoon

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and driving the demons back into their world

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where they are ruled over by the demon baby death

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lord, Gwima. This generation, the honor falls

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to a K -pop group called Huntrix, a group of

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three young women named Rumi, our main character,

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Mira, and Zoe, who sing ballads while bludgeoning

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demons out of this world. Having been trained

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and essentially raised by former hunter Selene,

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who was in the group with Rumi's mom before Rumi's

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mom died, our three protagonists are prepped

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and ready to slay. We see them fight and sing

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and perform amazing stunts, and the Honmoon begins

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to glow gold, a sign that it is being strengthened

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into a permanent barrier between the worlds.

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But Guima cannot allow this to happen! He takes

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up the offer of a demon singer, Jinu. who plans

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to create a demon boy band and steal Huntrix

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fans. Those fans' love, support, and souls power

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the Hanmoon. So if they go, so does the power

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of the Hanmoon. In celebration of finally seeing

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gold in the Hanmoon, Huntrix leader Rumi releases

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their next single, Golden, to great success.

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Even though Mira and Zoe were really looking

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forward to couch, couch, couch, couch, couch,

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couch. But a challenge arises. As they prepare

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for their promo, Rumi's voice begins to fail

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her. Mira and Zoe are supportive and try to help

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even though they don't know the reason why. Rumi

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is half demon and her patterns, how hunters can

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identify demons in disguise, are starting to

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reach and strangle her voice. While trying to

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find a cure for her voice. The girls literally

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run into the Saja Boys, a new boy band who perform

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their new song, Soda Pop, to great enthusiasm

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from adoring crowds. During their performance,

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the girls realize the boys are demons and set

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about trying to kill them before they steal any

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souls. Mira and Zoe are all in on plan kill Saja

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Boys. But after having a one -on -one conversation

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with Jinu, Rumi realizes that hashtag not all

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demons. Jinu has found out Rumi is not entirely

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human either and wants to find her shame, the

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thing that keeps demons attached at the hip to

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Guima, so that he can use that to break the girls

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apart. But now Rumi feels torn and wonders what

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else she might not know about demons and subsequently

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herself. Jinu feels torn because he sees himself

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in Rumi as someone struggling with their circumstances,

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too. Plus, like all good YA male romance options,

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he really doesn't want to be bad. All he really

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wants is to be free of Guima. The two meet a

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couple of times, always facilitated for their

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honor, by a tiger named Derpy Derp McDerpster.

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No, it's just Derpy, but I want it to be the

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whole thing. And... A hat -stealing bird named

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Sussy, who, let's be honest, they are the real

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stars of the film. And Rumi and Jinu continue

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to connect and learn about each other's pasts

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and fears and dreams for the future. As Rumi's

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stress comes between her bond with Mira and Zoe.

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and the Saja Boys steal the hearts and souls

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of more and more people, the Han Moon starts

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to fall apart. Demons are everywhere, and the

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Idol Awards are Huntrix's last big chance to

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close the Han Moon forever. Rumi approaches Ginu

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with a plan. Let Huntrix win the Idol Awards

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and stay on this side of the Han Moon once it

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closes, ridding the world and Ginu of Guima and

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Rumi of her patterns. He agrees, but then is

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pulled down by Guima, who scares Jinu into believing

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that there is no escaping his past. Everything

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seems to be going well at the awards, but during

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their performance, Mira and Zoe are tricked by

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Jinu and the demons into abandoning Rumi on stage,

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while demons disguised as them expose Rumi's

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patterns and make it seem as though the group

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has fought and broken up. No longer able to hide

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her patterns, Rumi approaches her friends, but

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they don't understand how she could have lied

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for so long. Rumi runs to Selene and begs her

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to end this, to just kill Rumi, because demons

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must die. When Selene refuses, Rumi asks why

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Selene could never love her, all of her. and

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declares that if the Han Moon means that all

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demons are evil and must be separated, then that

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isn't the Han Moon she wants to create anymore.

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The Saja Boys are performing One Last Time and

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have wormed their way into the minds of the public,

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drawing crowds of hypnotized people, all feeling

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the Saja Boys are their only escape. As the crowds

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begin to march towards Guima himself, ready to

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give their souls, Rumi appears, no longer hiding

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who she is, and breaks Mira and Zoe from their

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trances to fight the onslaught of demons. When

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it appears they are close to winning, Guima attacks

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Rumi himself, but Jinu blocks him, sacrificing

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himself for her. She draws a new blade with the

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power of his soul and defeats Guima and Huntrix

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creates a new Honmoon. A short time later The

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girls are finally enjoying some relaxation, and

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Rumi is able to be fully herself, her patterns

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visible to her friends. They greet some young

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fans, and the camera pans up to our favorites,

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Derpy and Sussy, above a Huntrix comeback sign.

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End of recap. And now, it is time to welcome

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in our guest for this episode. Who has very graciously

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bequeathed us with her presence. A big welcome

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to Emma Mayer, a .k .a. Emma M. Shelf. Hello.

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Hello, welcome. Hello. Thank you for having me.

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Thank you for coming on. All right, Emma. So

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here's the deal. You're going to tell us four

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different things. So I hope you can remember

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this. Okay. And you can't read it at all in the

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dark. Close your eyes. Okay. No, I'm kidding.

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You're going to tell us a little about yourself.

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Okay. You're going to tell us how you got into

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K -pop and K -pop Demon Hunter. You're going

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to tell us which soda pop you choose and which

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Huntrix. He's your soul. Now, I have to ask there.

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Did you mean Soda Pop? Because I don't drink

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soda. Or did you mean Saja Boy? Because I...

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I do mean Saja Boy. I also don't understand which

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Huntrix is your soul. Which Huntrix is your soul.

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Yeah. Which one of them is you? Is your soul.

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Down to the very soul that you are. Yeah. Right.

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So, I can never remember the name Saja Boys.

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And so, to me, they've been the Soda Pops. Not

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the Soda Pops. So when I was watching your Halloween

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videos of the Saja Boys, I'd be like, ah, the

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Soda Pops. And Heidi would be like, what is Emma

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doing? I'd be like, look, it's the Soda Pops.

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And Heidi would be like, oh, she's the Saja Boys.

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That looks great. They did a great job. And I'd

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be like, who? Heidi thought that? Thank you.

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Oh, yeah, of course. That means so much. It was

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awesome. Yeah. So you're clearly not a big fan.

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Certainly not. It definitely, like, yeah, no.

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I can talk about my costume, too, but it really,

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it was mostly for the kids. You know what I mean?

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Oh, yeah. Mostly for the kids, but definitely

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also for us. We definitely thought there were

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going to be a bunch of kids wearing, like, the

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Huntrix costumes. Like, I was expecting a ton

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of roomies and Miras and Zoes running around

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this neighborhood. In fact, we only saw one roomie,

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and that's okay. But everybody recognized us.

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So that is what mattered. That's exciting. And

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because we're all adults who do not go to parties

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on Halloween and instead stay home to help the

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kids trick or treat. Thank you very much. Yeah.

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We have nowhere to go. So we were like, what

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are the kids going to recognize? And there were

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five of us. So it was like perfect. That's awesome.

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Incredible. Absolutely perfect. But yes, anyways,

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I'm Emma. I am actually a bookstagrammer and

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a grad student. And that is a shameless plug.

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Thank you for calling me MM Shelf. Go ahead and

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give me a follow. And not Korean. So I definitely

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feel very out of my depth talking about this

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movie. But I will do my best. Excellent. As will

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we all. And if you are Korean and you know a

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lot more about this, please get in contact with

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us. We'd love to have you on to talk about it

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as well. But until then. Welcome, Emma. Thank

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you. An average white girl. And you live on 1255

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Fairfax Road in Fairfax, Virginia. That's not

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my address, by the way. Oh, I would totally 100

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% certainly give out your real address on a podcast.

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It's just like the beep. um yeah okay wait so

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how i got into k -pop um i got into k -pop quite

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a few years ago i was a journalist working for

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newsweek at the time and um what am i allowed

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to say that i was working there yeah it's my

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it's where i was working okay i was a journalist

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did you sign an nda for them i didn't think so

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But my brain was like, maybe. I don't know. I

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blurred that time of my life out, to be honest.

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Anyways, I was writing an article about BTS at

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Newsweek where I worked as a journalist. And

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so I started listening to their music while I

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was writing this article because I was like,

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I want to know who they are. And I have a very

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obsessive personality. So when I get into something,

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I like I really get into something. And so BTS

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just like latched into my my. little brain that

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was like so sad and lonely at the time and um

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and they were really good at that and so um So

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I've mostly been a fan of BTS. I've dabbled in

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some other groups, but BTS has really stuck.

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And yeah, so as far as K -pop demon hunters go,

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I saw it on Netflix. I put it on my list of things

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to watch, but it actually was my mom who watched

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it first, like by herself. She probably doesn't

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want me telling people that, but I thought it

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was so cute. Shout out Emma's mom. She lives

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on 1322 Shorby Way. Birmingham, Alabama. One

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day you're going to come up with a fake address.

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It's going to be correct. And it's going to be

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correct somehow. Yeah. You're a few states off

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this time, but that's okay. And so, yeah. Anyway,

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so my mom watched it and called me and my sister

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and was like, you guys have to watch this. And

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so we did. I think literally that night we just

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put it on and had my mom on FaceTime while we

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were watching it because she wanted to watch

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us watch it. And it was so much fun. It was so

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much fun. So, yeah, in terms of, you know, which

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soda pop I'd choose, I feel connected to Mystery,

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mostly because I was him for Halloween this year,

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which was exceptionally fun as well. And I think

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he's obviously the most mysterious of them all.

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He's kind of the Zayn Malik of Saja Boy's One

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Direction, which is very entertaining to me.

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Yeah, yeah. So which Huntrix is me? I will say

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I wish that I was Mira so badly. I wish I could

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look you guys in the face and say, I am Mira.

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Unfortunately, that's definitely not who I am.

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I am probably more Zoe than anybody else. My

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sister and my roommates agreed that they think

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I'm most like Zoe as well, too. Don't have the

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main character energy for me. Do not have the

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badassery of Mira. Who does, though? Have you

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ever met anybody that you've been like, that

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person's roomie, that's crazy. I've met people

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who think they're roomie. Right. Just listen.

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And those people are all actually demons, so

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tricks on them. But yeah, so definitely most

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like Zoe, who is so lovely and fun, and I love

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her. Yeah. Fantastic. I will let the audience

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know. That the only reason why we are having

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this podcast in the first place is because once

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upon a time, I went to school at Oxford. And

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so did Emma. And Emma asked me randomly in the

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Exeter College Courtyard, have you listened to

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Demon Slayer? Nope. Have you listened to K -pop

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Demon Hunters? Getting back on here. For another

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podcast to talk about Demon Slayer. Absolutely.

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And I'm all about that because I love anime as

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well. Yes, absolutely. Sierra, have you watched

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Demon Hunter? Demon Slayer. Sierra, have you

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watched Demon Slayer? I have not. Okay, so that

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when we're done with all the other things this

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year, you can watch that. Yeah, do that. That

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sounds great. I'm going to take you all back

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and share with you. The only reason why we're

00:16:04.610 --> 00:16:07.309
having this podcast is because once upon a time,

00:16:07.389 --> 00:16:12.429
I attended Oxford University. And so did Miss

00:16:12.429 --> 00:16:16.690
Emma at the same time. And we were sitting in

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the Exeter College courtyard and she asked me,

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Sam, have you watched K -Pop Demon Hunter? And

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I said, no, but my wife is watching it right

00:16:26.490 --> 00:16:29.389
now. And she said. Well, you got to watch it.

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And I said, all right, great. And then she, you

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know, proceeded to bring up one of the songs.

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It will take you six years to guess which one

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of the songs she played for me. Emma, do you

00:16:42.649 --> 00:16:45.629
even remember? I do remember. Oh, good. Okay,

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Sierra, take a shot. Which of the songs do you

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think Emma played me first? To play for some,

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I mean. I feel like it can't be golden because

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of this setup. I feel like the first one that

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I heard was Your Idol. So it could be. The first

00:17:09.839 --> 00:17:13.460
one that my daughter heard was Soda Pop. So that's

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also a fairly good option. But I'm going to go

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with what it sounds like. Emma, would you like

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to reveal? I played Free. In the middle of that

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courtyard. Very nice. Over a glass of white wine

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that cost me eight pounds, we listened to all

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of Free out loud while people were doing things.

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Yeah. It was great. I was sitting there sipping

00:17:42.529 --> 00:17:46.170
a cherry Coke being like, this rocks. Later that

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night when I called Heidi and was like, hey,

00:17:47.690 --> 00:17:49.670
listen to a Demon Hunter song. She's like, oh

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my gosh, which one? And I was like, Free. And

00:17:52.220 --> 00:17:53.839
she's like, okay, I'm glad you like it because

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there's a lot of great songs if you liked Free.

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I love Free. It's great. It's not slanderous.

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I'm just saying. When you think about K -pop

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Demon Hunter, most people are like Golden or

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the Dis song or Soda Pop. Any of them. Not Free,

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normally. I thought you'd like it. I found K

00:18:23.490 --> 00:18:26.990
-pop Demon Hunters in a similar way to Emma,

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where I saw it on Netflix and I was like, ah,

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another one of those things. Maybe it'll be interesting

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and then didn't think anything about it. And

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then one of my friends sent me a workout video

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to, I want to say how it's done. It was like,

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we have to do this. Actually, it was with Brit.

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Oh, excellent. Our editor. Yeah, so our friend

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sent it to both of us at the same time. I was

00:19:02.039 --> 00:19:04.460
like, we got to do this together. And I was like,

00:19:04.519 --> 00:19:07.880
what is this from? They were like, it's from

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K -Pop Demon Hunters. You haven't seen it yet?

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And I was like, no, I haven't seen it yet. And

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Brit's like, you got to watch it. It's really

00:19:14.720 --> 00:19:17.319
good. And our friend is like, you really got

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to watch it. Okay. Watch it tonight. Get the

00:19:21.950 --> 00:19:25.470
kids and just all watch it together. And I'll

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FaceTime you while you watch it because she wanted

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to see my reaction. That's so cute. I love that.

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That's very cute. So it's the same thing. So

00:19:34.390 --> 00:19:36.009
when you were saying that that's what your mom

00:19:36.009 --> 00:19:37.730
did, I was very excited because that was the

00:19:37.730 --> 00:19:40.529
same thing. That's what my child's mother did.

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That's what I did. So I made a little fort. And

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we sat and watched it and it was very exciting.

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And I only saw about three quarters of it the

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first time because I had a baby crawling all

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over me, but it was still great. And then I rewatched

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it and I've probably seen it. 10 plus times since

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my daughter's watched it at least 15 times she

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watched it three times back to back to back on

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a plane not long ago so i've lost count i actually

00:20:19.079 --> 00:20:22.819
almost did that too on my flight home from london

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i downloaded it and i watched it i watched it

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once and then i almost put it on again and i

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was like i feel like i can't But you can. But

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I should have. It is your life. 100%. You're

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an adult. I mean, you are closer to Sierra's

00:20:38.099 --> 00:20:39.740
daughter age than you are mine, but that's not

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true at all. I was like, how old is your daughter?

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Four. Okay. Okay. But you were the person who

00:20:50.660 --> 00:20:52.859
I shouted out the other day that was like, Ricky

00:20:52.859 --> 00:20:56.059
Martin. Oh, yeah, from Shrek 2. Oh, he's the

00:20:56.059 --> 00:20:59.349
one who does that song from Shrek 2. Yeah. Livin'

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La Vida Loca. That's this Emma, Sierra. No! No!

00:21:05.289 --> 00:21:09.210
No! So be warned, friends. If you hear your name

00:21:09.210 --> 00:21:11.289
in a blooper reel, you are cursed to come on

00:21:11.289 --> 00:21:18.410
as our guest. Oh, man. Okay, so a question for

00:21:18.410 --> 00:21:22.009
you, Sierra. Who would be your soda pop? Who

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would be my soda pop? Yes. Oh, goodness. You

00:21:26.950 --> 00:21:30.779
know... I think I have to go with Genu and just

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be basic about it. I don't know enough about

00:21:37.059 --> 00:21:40.680
any of the others. I just don't. Okay. That's

00:21:40.680 --> 00:21:42.779
fair. That's valid. And then who would be your

00:21:42.779 --> 00:21:47.160
Huntrix soul? I think Emma. I think I'm right

00:21:47.160 --> 00:21:50.680
there with you. I think I'm Zoe. I don't have

00:21:50.680 --> 00:21:53.680
main character energy, nor do I have the upfrontness

00:21:53.680 --> 00:21:58.460
to be Mira. Although... That would be cool. I'd

00:21:58.460 --> 00:22:02.460
probably rather be roomy than Mira, but I think

00:22:02.460 --> 00:22:05.940
I'm Zoe. And it's not to say that we're like,

00:22:06.160 --> 00:22:08.900
you know, this is no Zoe slander either. She's

00:22:08.900 --> 00:22:12.940
a wonderful character. She is so empathetic and

00:22:12.940 --> 00:22:15.819
loves her girls so much and loves what she does.

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And it comes at it with like joy and excitement.

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But she's just, and she's still a badass. Yes.

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Absolutely. Especially when she raps. Especially

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when we have to bleep swear words on this podcast,

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Emma! Oh, sorry! I didn't realize even bad a**

00:22:34.180 --> 00:22:40.140
as I say it again. I'm sorry. Yeah, we do. Good

00:22:40.140 --> 00:22:42.720
to know. Sorry. I should have asked. She's a

00:22:42.720 --> 00:22:50.980
bad butt. I hate that. I hate that more. Oh,

00:22:51.019 --> 00:22:58.880
I'm gonna have to get creative. Here we go. so

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sam yes same questions ah which soda pop would

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you choose sparky's root beer listen i know g

00:23:12.400 --> 00:23:16.640
news no yes got it nailed it the name g news

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g news okay g new i know g news name and i now

00:23:22.500 --> 00:23:25.879
know mystery's name because emma said it And

00:23:25.879 --> 00:23:28.680
that's where my knowledge of names go. But I

00:23:28.680 --> 00:23:32.180
will describe this man to you. Yes. I will tell

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you which one it is. I think I know who it is.

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Continue. If you take Justin Bieber's hair from

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2007, 2008, and you turn him upside down for

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a moment, and you put him in a southern hemisphere

00:23:47.480 --> 00:23:49.259
toilet, because it's not swirled the right way

00:23:49.259 --> 00:23:51.759
for northern hemisphere toilet, and you flushed

00:23:51.759 --> 00:23:55.049
it, and then you made this man... come back up,

00:23:55.170 --> 00:23:57.509
and then blow dry his hair, that would be the

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one I would pick. Abby. I think Abby, too. Abby?

00:24:01.329 --> 00:24:04.630
Is that the one in the Hawaiian shirt with the

00:24:04.630 --> 00:24:07.250
abs? I have no idea. It's the one that Zoe likes.

00:24:07.670 --> 00:24:09.450
Well, Zoe likes Mystery. No, that's Mystery.

00:24:10.009 --> 00:24:12.849
Oh. It's the one with the really, you know, his

00:24:12.849 --> 00:24:14.970
eyes are covered constantly. That's Mystery.

00:24:15.670 --> 00:24:18.029
Do you know why he's called that? Because his

00:24:18.029 --> 00:24:23.480
face is a mystery. Oh, wow. Yeah. And Abby is

00:24:23.480 --> 00:24:26.819
because he's got abs. He's got abs. No, not interested

00:24:26.819 --> 00:24:31.420
in that one. Let's be real here. I am too insecure

00:24:31.420 --> 00:24:35.359
for Abby. I would be constantly doing crunches

00:24:35.359 --> 00:24:39.200
all day every day if I wanted Abby to be my soda

00:24:39.200 --> 00:24:42.640
pop boy. I totally thought you were going to

00:24:42.640 --> 00:24:45.279
pick Baby. Baby Saja? I thought you were a Baby

00:24:45.279 --> 00:24:48.210
Saja guy. The rapper. Baby Saja is the little

00:24:48.210 --> 00:24:50.509
rapper. I thought Baby Saja was going to be your

00:24:50.509 --> 00:24:53.190
man. But when I hear him, I hear the rapper from

00:24:53.190 --> 00:24:57.190
Squid Games in my ear balls and I really loved

00:24:57.190 --> 00:24:59.210
that character but could not stand that character.

00:24:59.210 --> 00:25:04.710
Is that T .O .P.? That's his name in real life,

00:25:04.829 --> 00:25:10.910
right? Is it? Fantastic. Incredible. No, I'm

00:25:10.910 --> 00:25:15.230
going with Mystery, which apparently I now know

00:25:15.230 --> 00:25:18.900
his name. Good for me. So, okay, wait. There's

00:25:18.900 --> 00:25:22.799
Genu, and then the rest of them all have, like,

00:25:22.839 --> 00:25:27.400
nicknames? They're Abby. It's Abby Saja, Baby

00:25:27.400 --> 00:25:31.960
Saja, Romance, and Mystery. His name is Romance?

00:25:32.559 --> 00:25:36.059
Yeah, the one with the long pink hair. Because

00:25:36.059 --> 00:25:39.440
it's like he's on the cover of a romance novel.

00:25:39.779 --> 00:25:43.440
Okay. Alright, that makes more sense. So they

00:25:43.440 --> 00:25:45.559
picked one guy that could go around and have

00:25:45.559 --> 00:25:49.410
fun. The other guy had to do constant crunches.

00:25:49.410 --> 00:25:52.289
The other guy had to remain a mystery. And then

00:25:52.289 --> 00:25:55.670
this other guy needed to be swaddled? No. That's

00:25:55.670 --> 00:25:58.170
what you do with babies. I know, but it's more

00:25:58.170 --> 00:26:00.210
just like he's the youngest. He's probably the

00:26:00.210 --> 00:26:03.869
makine. Okay, so he's Emma. Yes. Sure, sure.

00:26:04.910 --> 00:26:06.849
I am also the makine. I am the oldest on this

00:26:06.849 --> 00:26:09.630
podcast and it bothers me to no end. By like

00:26:09.630 --> 00:26:14.799
a smidgen. By a month -shmonth. We appreciate

00:26:14.799 --> 00:26:18.859
your wisdom, Hyung. Oh, thank you. My lack of

00:26:18.859 --> 00:26:22.539
Soda Pop name -boy people. To answer the other

00:26:22.539 --> 00:26:28.400
question, which Huntrix is my soul? Yes. I just,

00:26:28.539 --> 00:26:32.799
I have always felt like no one has truly understood

00:26:32.799 --> 00:26:39.039
who I am. I just, there's this deepness inside

00:26:39.039 --> 00:26:41.920
me that I feel like no one can get to. And I

00:26:41.920 --> 00:26:45.200
just, like, at, like, a lake, I feel deep. And

00:26:45.200 --> 00:26:53.279
so... Emma, just in the back. Oh. Oh. Oh. No,

00:26:53.339 --> 00:26:55.160
um... You're being millennial cringe right now.

00:26:55.259 --> 00:27:03.839
I know. This is so millennial cringe. Okay, um,

00:27:03.960 --> 00:27:07.619
in all honesty... I too would like to say Mira

00:27:07.619 --> 00:27:12.960
because she is my absolute favorite, but I, there's

00:27:12.960 --> 00:27:15.079
that scene right at the beginning where they're

00:27:15.079 --> 00:27:17.799
all very upset to have found out about demons

00:27:17.799 --> 00:27:22.640
on their plane. And Zoe shouts in discomfort

00:27:22.640 --> 00:27:25.420
and disgust with fries in her mouth. And I'm

00:27:25.420 --> 00:27:29.460
like, that's me. So I think I'm going to have

00:27:29.460 --> 00:27:32.960
to go with Zoe as well. Although I, I do have

00:27:32.960 --> 00:27:36.819
the ability to be as upfront. And unnerving as

00:27:36.819 --> 00:27:40.759
Mira. But I'm just not as cool. She's just too

00:27:40.759 --> 00:27:45.740
cool for me. I really think that the marker of

00:27:45.740 --> 00:27:48.839
whether or not you could be Mira. Could you wear

00:27:48.839 --> 00:27:53.160
a sleeping bag to the Met Gala? I would. I'll

00:27:53.160 --> 00:27:56.799
give you that. Now, would people think it's cool?

00:27:57.099 --> 00:28:00.079
I think they'd think I'm homeless. So I think

00:28:00.079 --> 00:28:04.710
that's the way that that would go. Good. All

00:28:04.710 --> 00:28:07.329
right. So now that we finally finished up all

00:28:07.329 --> 00:28:09.230
of us answering all of those questions, welcome,

00:28:09.390 --> 00:28:12.430
Emma, to our podcast. Thank you so much for having

00:28:12.430 --> 00:28:15.589
me. I'm so excited. Time for a reality check.

00:28:16.009 --> 00:28:19.750
How did this movie get off the ground? Well,

00:28:20.170 --> 00:28:24.029
Maggie Kang, the wonderful Maggie Kang, wished

00:28:24.029 --> 00:28:26.990
to tell a story that was deeply rooted in Korean

00:28:26.990 --> 00:28:32.059
culture. She is a Korean, born in Korea, raised

00:28:32.059 --> 00:28:35.519
in North America, and wanted to show the world

00:28:35.519 --> 00:28:39.339
her culture and celebrate it, just the same as

00:28:39.339 --> 00:28:41.460
other cultures have been known and celebrated

00:28:41.460 --> 00:28:44.740
across the world. And she felt as though Korea

00:28:44.740 --> 00:28:47.759
had been a little overlooked and wanted to really

00:28:47.759 --> 00:28:50.420
get it out in the open. So the original concept

00:28:50.420 --> 00:28:54.059
was around demons and demon hunters, as well

00:28:54.059 --> 00:28:59.119
as the Jiosung. or the Grim Reaper, which is

00:28:59.119 --> 00:29:02.180
where the name Saja in Saja Boys comes from.

00:29:02.579 --> 00:29:05.400
The K -pop element was actually added a little

00:29:05.400 --> 00:29:07.880
bit later in the story development, and Maggie

00:29:07.880 --> 00:29:11.039
became pretty excited to turn the Sajas into

00:29:11.039 --> 00:29:14.619
idols, saw that really cool opportunity, which

00:29:14.619 --> 00:29:17.920
is pretty fantastic. Maggie also really wanted

00:29:17.920 --> 00:29:20.480
to make sure that a lot of the mythology from

00:29:20.480 --> 00:29:23.140
Korea made it into the film, and that it also

00:29:23.140 --> 00:29:25.990
included the style of them. fitting into the

00:29:25.990 --> 00:29:28.730
style of the film, just like all of the demons

00:29:28.730 --> 00:29:31.190
that we see, the demons on the plane, the water

00:29:31.190 --> 00:29:33.849
demons, really showing their traditional style

00:29:33.849 --> 00:29:38.450
and not having that get lost within the animation.

00:29:39.250 --> 00:29:41.910
There was also a goal to make the film for a

00:29:41.910 --> 00:29:44.710
broad audience so they could tackle adult themes

00:29:44.710 --> 00:29:48.170
like shame, isolation, self -acceptance, etc.,

00:29:48.170 --> 00:29:50.769
while also being accessible to younger audiences.

00:29:51.109 --> 00:29:54.029
And I think we can definitely say that succeeded.

00:29:55.130 --> 00:29:58.630
So what was the critics' reaction? Overwhelmingly

00:29:58.630 --> 00:30:02.569
positive. It has a 96 % on Rotten Tomatoes. And

00:30:02.569 --> 00:30:05.609
to give you a taste of some of the critic responses,

00:30:05.910 --> 00:30:08.869
we've got Kevin Mayer from The Times. That's

00:30:08.869 --> 00:30:12.910
in the UK. A fresh score. And he said, K -pop

00:30:12.910 --> 00:30:15.809
Demon Hunters articulates these battles in metaphor.

00:30:16.210 --> 00:30:20.230
And it also offers a giddy, glowing, and eventually

00:30:20.230 --> 00:30:24.490
roaring release. Kelechi Ahanulo. From Empire

00:30:24.490 --> 00:30:27.210
Magazine said, An animated film showing you how

00:30:27.210 --> 00:30:29.809
it's done, done, done, as Huntrix would put it.

00:30:29.849 --> 00:30:33.769
This is a stunning musical treat. A joy for all

00:30:33.769 --> 00:30:37.150
ages. Now warm up the vocal cords and bring on

00:30:37.150 --> 00:30:40.769
the sequel. So, a huge, rousing, raging success

00:30:40.769 --> 00:30:44.029
from critics. And also, amazingly, it's got a

00:30:44.029 --> 00:30:47.269
99 % on the popcorn meter on Rotten Tomatoes,

00:30:47.269 --> 00:30:50.319
which is the fans' reaction. Which I... Up until

00:30:50.319 --> 00:30:51.700
this point, kind of thought it was impossible

00:30:51.700 --> 00:30:54.259
just because of how much review bombing happens.

00:30:54.619 --> 00:30:56.980
And it feels like, per the people that usually

00:30:56.980 --> 00:31:01.119
like to review bomb, a Korean pop movie doing

00:31:01.119 --> 00:31:03.559
well would have been rife for that, and it wasn't.

00:31:03.660 --> 00:31:07.019
That's just how incredible this movie is. And

00:31:07.019 --> 00:31:10.240
we can also see that with the fan reaction, because

00:31:10.240 --> 00:31:15.059
it basically has become an obsession for many,

00:31:15.220 --> 00:31:19.880
many, many people. Younger audiences. Surprisingly

00:31:19.880 --> 00:31:23.680
to the developers of the film, the younger audiences

00:31:23.680 --> 00:31:27.019
actually picked up on the more adult themes that

00:31:27.019 --> 00:31:29.660
they put in and also found that it resonated

00:31:29.660 --> 00:31:32.279
with them and their friendships and their lives.

00:31:32.779 --> 00:31:37.319
Even in my small town, there were three roomies

00:31:37.319 --> 00:31:41.539
and a Zoe on Halloween, and I was able to point

00:31:41.539 --> 00:31:44.880
them all out very excitedly to my daughter, who

00:31:44.880 --> 00:31:47.980
luckily was very happy being a witch this year.

00:31:49.360 --> 00:31:51.900
Most parents that I know say that their kids

00:31:51.900 --> 00:31:53.779
watch the movie and listen to the soundtrack

00:31:53.779 --> 00:31:58.559
over and over. And also many adults and parents

00:31:58.559 --> 00:32:01.359
without their kids around also just listen to

00:32:01.359 --> 00:32:03.480
it and watch it on their own. So I think that

00:32:03.480 --> 00:32:06.880
that really proves that broad audience success

00:32:06.880 --> 00:32:10.059
that they were going for. It's also taken over

00:32:10.059 --> 00:32:13.279
social media. There are so many theories and

00:32:13.279 --> 00:32:17.230
noticings. All of these jokes of parents being

00:32:17.230 --> 00:32:19.289
more into it than their kids, which really crack

00:32:19.289 --> 00:32:23.829
me up. And I think the impact of this movie on

00:32:23.829 --> 00:32:27.369
general fans is best summed up by this post that

00:32:27.369 --> 00:32:30.490
I saw. For those of you who fixated a little

00:32:30.490 --> 00:32:33.369
too hard on K -pop demon hunters, how's that

00:32:33.369 --> 00:32:36.789
Felix effect treating you? Because it has created

00:32:36.789 --> 00:32:40.410
an enormous surge in K -pop fans in general,

00:32:40.609 --> 00:32:45.480
many of whom gravitated towards... Such bands

00:32:45.480 --> 00:32:47.819
that they thought were similar to the Saja Boys.

00:32:48.000 --> 00:32:54.079
So you've got ATEEZ, Stray Kids, even a resurgence

00:32:54.079 --> 00:32:58.200
in BTS as well. Now that they're all back. A

00:32:58.200 --> 00:33:03.599
resurgence. A resurgence. This movie's just really

00:33:03.599 --> 00:33:07.299
created a huge snowball effect into all of these

00:33:07.299 --> 00:33:10.859
different aspects of the music industry and film

00:33:10.859 --> 00:33:15.230
and animation. All of those things. I went to

00:33:15.230 --> 00:33:17.829
the movies when it got brought back for a sing

00:33:17.829 --> 00:33:21.309
-along version. And, gosh, this was in, like,

00:33:21.309 --> 00:33:23.670
August, I think. And the theater was absolutely

00:33:23.670 --> 00:33:26.849
packed. So it was me and my sister, who's 20,

00:33:26.970 --> 00:33:30.230
my roommate, who's 21, me at 25, and then my

00:33:30.230 --> 00:33:34.589
mom. We get it! You're young! Good God! And me,

00:33:34.710 --> 00:33:42.490
25. Oh, my God. Freshly 25. But we were there,

00:33:42.490 --> 00:33:45.500
and we were surrounded by... little kids and

00:33:45.500 --> 00:33:47.960
and a bunch of little girls and their moms and

00:33:47.960 --> 00:33:50.759
you couldn't hear the film over them and they

00:33:50.759 --> 00:33:53.240
were quoting the movie along with like the lines

00:33:53.240 --> 00:33:54.920
they weren't just singing along like they were

00:33:54.920 --> 00:33:57.619
speaking every single line along with that's

00:33:57.619 --> 00:34:04.619
amazing and it was so annoying at first like

00:34:04.619 --> 00:34:07.299
we were like why like why do they have to and

00:34:07.299 --> 00:34:09.199
they wouldn't sit down they were just so excited

00:34:09.920 --> 00:34:12.099
And so we were sitting there, you know, adults

00:34:12.099 --> 00:34:14.159
in a kid film going, why won't these kids sit

00:34:14.159 --> 00:34:17.559
down? And I think my mom left for like 20 minutes.

00:34:17.579 --> 00:34:20.500
She was overstimulated by the kids talking before

00:34:20.500 --> 00:34:22.519
we all were like, you know what? Like we're in

00:34:22.519 --> 00:34:25.059
their territory here. Like we need to just like

00:34:25.059 --> 00:34:28.300
enjoy this with them. So we ended up just like

00:34:28.300 --> 00:34:30.820
singing along as loud as we possibly like. I

00:34:30.820 --> 00:34:33.260
think my roommates and I, we were yelling the

00:34:33.260 --> 00:34:37.510
lyrics of this is what it sounds like. My mom

00:34:37.510 --> 00:34:39.929
came back with a Marg. Like, we all had a blast.

00:34:40.090 --> 00:34:42.449
It was so much fun. But, yeah, we won't be doing

00:34:42.449 --> 00:34:45.110
that again for kids' movies. I'm seeing the long

00:34:45.110 --> 00:34:48.429
versions anyway. I have a follow -up question

00:34:48.429 --> 00:34:52.630
because I do not know what a Marg is. Oh. Margarita.

00:34:52.869 --> 00:34:56.829
Margarita. Cool. Am I allowed to say that? Oh,

00:34:56.929 --> 00:34:59.050
okay. Yeah, you're allowed to say that. Your

00:34:59.050 --> 00:35:03.480
mom is. Your mom is, I believe, above 21, is

00:35:03.480 --> 00:35:05.820
she not? Indeed. Yeah, indeed. I know you guys

00:35:05.820 --> 00:35:08.980
are all fairly young, but my assumption is she's

00:35:08.980 --> 00:35:15.860
going to be older than 25. But yes. Yeah. So

00:35:15.860 --> 00:35:19.980
we had a blast. It was so much fun. But the kids

00:35:19.980 --> 00:35:22.800
just, like, are obsessed. I do feel like for

00:35:22.800 --> 00:35:26.079
some of these, you have to start putting an age

00:35:26.079 --> 00:35:28.699
bracket for which sing -alongs you're letting

00:35:28.699 --> 00:35:31.690
people go to. Like, hey! This one's for teenagers

00:35:31.690 --> 00:35:36.050
are up. This one's for under 12. See, and the

00:35:36.050 --> 00:35:38.110
thing about that, though, I will say is, like,

00:35:38.130 --> 00:35:40.210
we were not the only adults in there either.

00:35:40.309 --> 00:35:42.489
Right. I'm sure. And that's, like, the point

00:35:42.489 --> 00:35:45.610
of this movie is it is so gripping to every single

00:35:45.610 --> 00:35:47.929
kind of audience, like Sierra was saying. Like,

00:35:47.989 --> 00:35:52.260
you have adults watching it. On our own. Without

00:35:52.260 --> 00:35:56.119
children. And it is just so much fun. And so,

00:35:56.139 --> 00:35:59.360
yeah, when my household and I dressed up as the

00:35:59.360 --> 00:36:01.800
Saja Boys for Halloween, we had the music, the

00:36:01.800 --> 00:36:05.610
soundtrack playing very loudly. On the street

00:36:05.610 --> 00:36:07.869
while people were trick -or -treating. And we

00:36:07.869 --> 00:36:10.050
had – I will, like, probably never forget this

00:36:10.050 --> 00:36:11.869
because I thought it was so cute. But we had

00:36:11.869 --> 00:36:14.050
just, like, a big mass of kids coming all at

00:36:14.050 --> 00:36:17.409
once. And everybody was dancing and singing along

00:36:17.409 --> 00:36:19.570
to Soda Pop. And you just had, like, these little

00:36:19.570 --> 00:36:22.429
kids who were in their costumes. And they were

00:36:22.429 --> 00:36:24.590
just – we were all just singing Soda Pop. And

00:36:24.590 --> 00:36:27.329
it was so much fun. Like, that's the point of

00:36:27.329 --> 00:36:29.449
this. It's so fun. And I don't remember the last

00:36:29.449 --> 00:36:32.829
time a movie did this. Like – Yes, you do. I'm

00:36:32.829 --> 00:36:36.030
going to tell you right now. You were like 14

00:36:36.030 --> 00:36:40.130
when it happened. Okay? And it was the scourge

00:36:40.130 --> 00:36:44.730
of everyone's existence. Let it go. Let it go.

00:36:45.530 --> 00:36:48.130
You're right. I completely forgot about Frozen.

00:36:48.349 --> 00:36:51.309
So this is the biggest thing since Frozen. Blocked

00:36:51.309 --> 00:36:56.670
it out of their head. You're right. I don't care.

00:36:58.969 --> 00:37:04.780
About that movie anywhere. Yeah, I think Frozen

00:37:04.780 --> 00:37:06.780
was the last time that I remember this happening.

00:37:06.940 --> 00:37:09.820
And I find this is so much more palatable because

00:37:09.820 --> 00:37:12.000
as much as I liked Let It Go when I first heard

00:37:12.000 --> 00:37:14.599
it, it's a Disney ballad. And like any Disney

00:37:14.599 --> 00:37:18.139
ballad, if you sing it too much, it is too much.

00:37:18.239 --> 00:37:20.699
But so far with this music, I have been very

00:37:20.699 --> 00:37:23.440
like. This is awesome. This rocks. No, the soundtrack

00:37:23.440 --> 00:37:26.679
is incredible. And I even had a friend on Instagram

00:37:26.679 --> 00:37:31.179
ask me for more song recommendations, like K

00:37:31.179 --> 00:37:33.639
-pop song recs that sounded like your idol. And

00:37:33.639 --> 00:37:36.239
so I made like a whole playlist. And it just

00:37:36.239 --> 00:37:41.019
got people so into like all kinds of different

00:37:41.019 --> 00:37:44.480
K -pop bands because the songs themselves are...

00:37:44.880 --> 00:37:47.860
And the songwriters, and I know that the singer

00:37:47.860 --> 00:37:50.900
who played Rumi's singing voice did a lot of

00:37:50.900 --> 00:37:55.820
the writing as well. And, like, just incredible.

00:37:56.159 --> 00:37:58.960
Like, absolutely incredible. It's been amazing.

00:38:00.199 --> 00:38:02.900
Keep your finger on the pause button and rewind

00:38:02.900 --> 00:38:07.619
that tape. It's time for the prestige category

00:38:07.619 --> 00:38:11.239
of what did we notice on this watch through?

00:38:11.320 --> 00:38:13.900
Okay, instantly. On this watch through today,

00:38:14.099 --> 00:38:17.340
when I rewatched the movie again, I was instantly,

00:38:17.519 --> 00:38:20.780
instantaneously amazed at how well the movie

00:38:20.780 --> 00:38:24.239
gels. Like, it's just so right off the bat. The

00:38:24.239 --> 00:38:26.579
trio's chemistry, right? Their animated chemistry

00:38:26.579 --> 00:38:28.599
and the voice acting chemistry immediately is

00:38:28.599 --> 00:38:33.340
instant. And so is the humor. And so is the superhero

00:38:33.340 --> 00:38:36.019
level powers that don't feel rushed, right? These

00:38:36.019 --> 00:38:39.599
big moments, they jump backwards out of an airplane.

00:38:40.590 --> 00:38:43.550
It took Spider -Man Into the Spider -Verse 100

00:38:43.550 --> 00:38:47.610
minutes before he jumps backwards off. And, right,

00:38:47.650 --> 00:38:49.949
that is one of the all -time best moments in

00:38:49.949 --> 00:38:52.289
animated movie history. So I'm not trying to

00:38:52.289 --> 00:38:54.489
directly compare it to that. What I am saying,

00:38:54.489 --> 00:38:56.730
though, is that sometimes when you're world building,

00:38:56.829 --> 00:38:59.210
if you rush the superpowers too much, it can

00:38:59.210 --> 00:39:02.650
feel like you're overloading on it. And, like,

00:39:02.690 --> 00:39:06.159
it's unearned. But because this group gelled

00:39:06.159 --> 00:39:09.219
so well with introducing the plane flying off,

00:39:09.320 --> 00:39:11.119
taking it to the wrong place, that demons are

00:39:11.119 --> 00:39:12.579
on the plane, that they're going to kill them.

00:39:12.619 --> 00:39:15.340
We see a flash of their weapons coming out. We

00:39:15.340 --> 00:39:19.179
see the demons turning into actual demons and

00:39:19.179 --> 00:39:22.699
having conversations. And then you're just able

00:39:22.699 --> 00:39:24.880
to instantly buy into, yep, this is how powerful

00:39:24.880 --> 00:39:27.519
they are. Without any complaints of like what

00:39:27.519 --> 00:39:28.940
we see in Star Wars all the time, right? With

00:39:28.940 --> 00:39:31.519
Mary Sue talk. Like people, I think we're willing

00:39:31.519 --> 00:39:34.320
to buy in instantly. Something about how good

00:39:34.320 --> 00:39:37.119
that writing is in that movie sets this off on

00:39:37.119 --> 00:39:41.619
such a like speed. It helps that you have a song

00:39:41.619 --> 00:39:45.059
playing that is perhaps one of the best ones

00:39:45.059 --> 00:39:48.760
on the soundtrack at the same time. Like, and

00:39:48.760 --> 00:39:51.780
it just, it really just like, like you're in

00:39:51.780 --> 00:39:54.250
it and you're like, okay. I think it was that

00:39:54.250 --> 00:39:56.849
song exactly that made me sit there and be like,

00:39:56.929 --> 00:40:01.710
this is phenomenal. Oh my gosh. I'm going to

00:40:01.710 --> 00:40:04.849
watch this movie. Tell you that right now. I'm

00:40:04.849 --> 00:40:09.869
going to keep watching. Absolutely. I also feel

00:40:09.869 --> 00:40:11.929
that the way that the art styles blend together

00:40:11.929 --> 00:40:14.949
works so well. I didn't necessarily notice all

00:40:14.949 --> 00:40:17.630
the, you know, exaggerated facial expressions

00:40:17.630 --> 00:40:19.929
and all of those the first time that I watched

00:40:19.929 --> 00:40:22.409
it. But now every single time that I go back

00:40:22.409 --> 00:40:25.510
and watch, I feel like I find a new one in a

00:40:25.510 --> 00:40:30.389
new moment. And I think that the one I think

00:40:30.389 --> 00:40:32.969
that the first time that it really sparks off

00:40:32.969 --> 00:40:35.989
is when they're angry or no, sorry, when they're

00:40:35.989 --> 00:40:40.230
shoving all the food in their faces. because

00:40:40.230 --> 00:40:44.750
it's so unrealistic in the best possible way

00:40:44.750 --> 00:40:50.030
just all of the all of the like sushi rolls and

00:40:50.030 --> 00:40:54.409
all of the snacks and everything and just cramming

00:40:54.409 --> 00:40:56.590
their faces full of food and then the absolute

00:40:56.590 --> 00:40:59.849
fury over not being able to eat the pre -show

00:40:59.849 --> 00:41:07.170
ramyeon is amazing oh i love it uh speaking of

00:41:08.460 --> 00:41:11.480
I think the person who's most upset is Zoe, but

00:41:11.480 --> 00:41:15.099
Mira is also very upset. And I will, I will just,

00:41:15.179 --> 00:41:17.599
hands are right here. I know I already said she's

00:41:17.599 --> 00:41:20.280
my favorite, but instantly in this scene, I'm

00:41:20.280 --> 00:41:24.199
like, she's cool. She's powerful. She's hot tempered,

00:41:24.199 --> 00:41:26.820
but understanding. She is this perfect dynamic

00:41:26.820 --> 00:41:30.739
side character. Somebody who is a complex, right?

00:41:30.820 --> 00:41:33.639
In a short amount of time, like. There's really

00:41:33.639 --> 00:41:36.559
not a whole lot of time given to anything in

00:41:36.559 --> 00:41:39.960
this movie outside of Rumi's main storyline and

00:41:39.960 --> 00:41:43.539
her relationship. And yet I find both of her

00:41:43.539 --> 00:41:45.820
sidekicks extremely well written and complex.

00:41:46.599 --> 00:41:52.219
I think the thing for me that was also so gravitating

00:41:52.219 --> 00:41:56.960
about Mira was both of her voice actors, Audrey

00:41:56.960 --> 00:41:59.980
Nuna and May Hong, who do... the singing and

00:41:59.980 --> 00:42:04.019
the dialogue their voices are so hot like they

00:42:04.019 --> 00:42:07.360
have they have the hottest voices and she is

00:42:07.360 --> 00:42:12.179
so sultry but also like do you know what i'm

00:42:12.179 --> 00:42:15.059
talking about absolutely the timber of her voice

00:42:15.059 --> 00:42:18.300
is just like She has a depth to her voice, a

00:42:18.300 --> 00:42:20.400
deepness that resonates with her character in

00:42:20.400 --> 00:42:23.320
a way that is very attractive, especially with

00:42:23.320 --> 00:42:25.880
the way that they designed her face painting.

00:42:26.380 --> 00:42:29.000
Not just from a makeup standpoint, but the composition

00:42:29.000 --> 00:42:31.119
that they give her skin and everything as well.

00:42:31.199 --> 00:42:32.800
From a color theory perspective, it's really

00:42:32.800 --> 00:42:35.000
well done. And I think it's supposed to evoke

00:42:35.000 --> 00:42:37.280
that sort of reaction from you. She reminds me

00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:39.579
a little bit of Rosa Diaz from Brooklyn Nine

00:42:39.579 --> 00:42:41.639
-Nine, if you've ever seen that show. Yes, I

00:42:41.639 --> 00:42:46.320
see that. korean rosa it feels like i'm like

00:42:46.320 --> 00:42:51.199
this is incredible on the flip side though we've

00:42:51.199 --> 00:42:56.659
got the soda pop boys and i which i whatever

00:42:56.659 --> 00:42:59.659
i just love mystery a ton but i think they're

00:42:59.659 --> 00:43:02.619
all a very very funny dynamic and i think that

00:43:02.619 --> 00:43:06.840
the the leaning into the like sort of uh the

00:43:06.840 --> 00:43:08.679
fact that boy groups get made fun of all the

00:43:08.679 --> 00:43:10.739
time and that they just decide to make fun of

00:43:10.739 --> 00:43:14.159
it even more but that these these demons are

00:43:14.159 --> 00:43:16.239
sort of making fun of it, but also living their

00:43:16.239 --> 00:43:22.940
best lives as these Soja Boys. Not Soja Boys.

00:43:23.059 --> 00:43:30.019
Soja Boys. Soja Boy told them! The Soja Boys.

00:43:30.119 --> 00:43:33.039
Especially just from that opening move in front

00:43:33.039 --> 00:43:36.880
of Guima. They're trying to pitch, and then they

00:43:36.880 --> 00:43:40.260
do the move. And Guima's like, what the heck?

00:43:40.260 --> 00:43:45.119
But Guima's so desperate to not be utterly destroyed

00:43:45.119 --> 00:43:47.280
or closed off from Earth that he's like, all

00:43:47.280 --> 00:43:52.579
right. My favorite thing is that he goes, how

00:43:52.579 --> 00:43:55.320
do you expect this to work? And every single

00:43:55.320 --> 00:43:57.460
time we watch this, my daughter makes me say

00:43:57.460 --> 00:44:00.699
it along, where they have the little moment of

00:44:00.699 --> 00:44:03.400
the sultry music in the background and the hair.

00:44:04.190 --> 00:44:07.349
flipping from side to side as they're transforming

00:44:07.349 --> 00:44:10.849
from demon into a boy band member. And then it

00:44:10.849 --> 00:44:14.030
cuts to the demon standing behind them. Oh yeah,

00:44:14.130 --> 00:44:16.730
that'll work. That'll totally work. I really

00:44:16.730 --> 00:44:18.530
wish they got Patrick Warburton for that one

00:44:18.530 --> 00:44:21.570
line. Oh, my gosh. See, that's the guy who plays

00:44:21.570 --> 00:44:23.949
Kronk, Emma, because you're so young. Oh, yeah.

00:44:24.050 --> 00:44:26.949
No, I know who that is. I just, his name didn't

00:44:26.949 --> 00:44:29.190
register. Patrick Warburton. I've seen Seinfeld,

00:44:29.269 --> 00:44:32.909
too. I just didn't. Yeah, he's in Seinfeld. Well

00:44:32.909 --> 00:44:36.309
done. Good job. I will send you a cookie through

00:44:36.309 --> 00:44:41.829
the mail. Yay, cookie. Yeah, I wish they got

00:44:41.829 --> 00:44:43.849
Patrick Warburton to do that, because, you know,

00:44:43.889 --> 00:44:45.750
he has that famous line in Emperor's New Groove.

00:44:46.349 --> 00:44:49.940
Oh, yeah. That'll work. It's all coming together.

00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:57.280
Oh, my gosh. No, I love mystery so much. The

00:44:57.280 --> 00:44:59.980
part where he starts barking during the fan signing.

00:45:00.159 --> 00:45:05.300
Like, my sister and I had to, like, pause and

00:45:05.300 --> 00:45:07.480
go back and watch that several times because

00:45:07.480 --> 00:45:10.280
it's so quick. Like, so quick. Never explained,

00:45:10.559 --> 00:45:13.099
ever. Why is he barking? And then the way Zoe

00:45:13.099 --> 00:45:15.960
just smacks him. Bad Saja boy. Like, what? And

00:45:15.960 --> 00:45:19.460
then we just move on. Like, what? It was so good.

00:45:21.460 --> 00:45:24.920
I really want to know that he was a dog that

00:45:24.920 --> 00:45:28.440
got turned into a demon. Somehow. Some way, some

00:45:28.440 --> 00:45:31.900
shape. Yeah. That's why they call him that, babe.

00:45:36.079 --> 00:45:39.800
I've seen theories that he's somehow Mira's brother.

00:45:40.750 --> 00:45:44.530
that there's some crazy thing because when you

00:45:44.530 --> 00:45:47.050
when you see the family portrait at the beginning

00:45:47.050 --> 00:45:49.849
there's the three of them and her and then when

00:45:49.849 --> 00:45:52.449
you see it later then the you see the parents

00:45:52.449 --> 00:45:54.969
later but you don't see the brother and they're

00:45:54.969 --> 00:45:57.650
wearing similar earrings or something like that

00:45:57.650 --> 00:46:01.070
and oh maybe something happened to him and that's

00:46:01.070 --> 00:46:03.610
why the parents don't talk to her anymore and

00:46:03.610 --> 00:46:07.469
there's a huge huge theory that somehow he is

00:46:07.469 --> 00:46:11.960
her brother who became a demon and something.

00:46:12.159 --> 00:46:15.380
And that's, they're backing it up by saying,

00:46:15.519 --> 00:46:19.679
oh, well, Mira and Mystery never interact. It's

00:46:19.679 --> 00:46:23.400
always, and they never fight each other and they

00:46:23.400 --> 00:46:26.219
never have anything to say to each other, which

00:46:26.219 --> 00:46:28.059
I think is very interesting. I don't know that

00:46:28.059 --> 00:46:30.539
I can get behind it, but it is interesting. It

00:46:30.539 --> 00:46:34.300
does not explain the barking. It does not. Maybe

00:46:34.300 --> 00:46:37.920
that's why his face is covered. Maybe that is.

00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:39.619
Maybe that is why. So that she doesn't recognize

00:46:39.619 --> 00:46:43.679
him. I find that intriguing as a fan theory and

00:46:43.679 --> 00:46:45.820
totally something that I'm going to chuck out

00:46:45.820 --> 00:46:49.719
the door. It feels like a fan theory that's cool,

00:46:50.179 --> 00:46:52.380
but like, no way. It's kind of like when people

00:46:52.380 --> 00:46:54.960
were like, did you know that Ron is the Half

00:46:54.960 --> 00:46:57.320
-Blood Prince? Because his cousin was a muggle.

00:46:57.500 --> 00:47:02.679
And it's like, hmm. No. You tried. You did. You

00:47:02.679 --> 00:47:07.289
tried. You tried. You did try. But you failed.

00:47:07.610 --> 00:47:10.349
Take your 11 -year -old self off the internet

00:47:10.349 --> 00:47:13.090
and go cry about it. Because I may have been

00:47:13.090 --> 00:47:16.389
the one who said that. I may have written a very

00:47:16.389 --> 00:47:18.570
long fan post about it on a major fan thing.

00:47:20.289 --> 00:47:24.650
Got a lot of views and a lot of hate. It's cool.

00:47:24.769 --> 00:47:29.090
I'm totally not scarred at all. The lore that's

00:47:29.090 --> 00:47:31.690
being revealed right now. Who knew it would be

00:47:31.690 --> 00:47:38.500
spoilers? Severus Snape! We're no clues. There

00:47:38.500 --> 00:47:41.940
are quite a few really cool fan theories. I've

00:47:41.940 --> 00:47:48.380
seen Guima as Rumi's dad. That is one I don't,

00:47:48.380 --> 00:47:50.400
I can't get behind either. I don't really see.

00:47:50.400 --> 00:47:51.940
I really hope it's not Genu. I got to tell you

00:47:51.940 --> 00:47:59.239
that. Well, that would, no. What's wrong with

00:47:59.239 --> 00:48:05.039
you? The flat tire that Emma's brain just took.

00:48:05.739 --> 00:48:10.659
While processing that, what is the reach? No,

00:48:12.280 --> 00:48:15.199
he has to have purple hair, or else where did

00:48:15.199 --> 00:48:17.659
Rumi get that from? Right, of course. Couldn't

00:48:17.659 --> 00:48:19.500
have dyed it. Not at all. Which is literally

00:48:19.500 --> 00:48:21.639
the only reason why. Well, no, because she's

00:48:21.639 --> 00:48:23.760
got purple hair as a kid, which is why I think

00:48:23.760 --> 00:48:27.000
it is natural. Which is where people are coming

00:48:27.000 --> 00:48:30.079
up with the Grima as her dad, because his flames

00:48:30.079 --> 00:48:34.219
are purple. But that one's a far stretch to me,

00:48:34.380 --> 00:48:37.230
however. would make a really, really great prequel.

00:48:38.550 --> 00:48:41.130
Yeah. Yeah, you're all about the prequel, huh?

00:48:41.230 --> 00:48:43.429
You want to see what happens? I am all about

00:48:43.429 --> 00:48:46.449
the prequel. That, to me, is even more interesting,

00:48:46.550 --> 00:48:50.369
honestly, than Genu and Rumi is the romance between

00:48:50.369 --> 00:48:53.489
a hunter and a demon and the fact that they have

00:48:53.489 --> 00:48:57.010
a kid. Like, I need that explained immediately.

00:48:57.449 --> 00:49:01.250
I also want to hear 90s K -pop, for sure. Oh,

00:49:01.269 --> 00:49:04.380
it's so good. Yeah, because Rumi... Born in the

00:49:04.380 --> 00:49:07.960
90s, let's hope. Cross our fingers, Sierra. Is

00:49:07.960 --> 00:49:11.119
she old enough? She's a 2004 baby. Sorry, guys.

00:49:11.219 --> 00:49:18.820
No! How old are they supposed to be? Does anybody

00:49:18.820 --> 00:49:22.900
know? Probably your age. Rumi and Mira around

00:49:22.900 --> 00:49:28.099
23, 24. Zoe at around 22, 23. So, that's interesting.

00:49:28.139 --> 00:49:35.500
Okay, so. 2000 to 2000. three babies yeah it

00:49:35.500 --> 00:49:42.199
would be very interesting also it would be very

00:49:42.199 --> 00:49:45.320
interesting to me to see a bit of prequel as

00:49:45.320 --> 00:49:49.719
well to like figure out how zoe came from america

00:49:49.719 --> 00:49:53.780
to korea to join this group like was it and how

00:49:53.780 --> 00:49:55.880
did they get chosen to be a part of this obviously

00:49:55.880 --> 00:50:00.679
roomie is you know In the family, which I actually

00:50:00.679 --> 00:50:03.579
have seen people say like real K -pop fans would

00:50:03.579 --> 00:50:06.079
not really like that because nepotism is kind

00:50:06.079 --> 00:50:08.579
of something that in a lot of these groups gets

00:50:08.579 --> 00:50:10.900
looked down upon, which is very interesting to

00:50:10.900 --> 00:50:15.440
me. But yeah, trying to figure out like how they

00:50:15.440 --> 00:50:17.400
all came together, how they got chosen for this

00:50:17.400 --> 00:50:20.639
role instead of just being a normal K -pop group

00:50:20.639 --> 00:50:24.820
would be very interesting. Yeah, totally. Guys,

00:50:24.840 --> 00:50:27.199
can we talk about Jinwoo and his betrayal of

00:50:27.199 --> 00:50:30.559
his family? Yes. Because I do feel like that

00:50:30.559 --> 00:50:34.280
took me by surprise. Like, his initial story

00:50:34.280 --> 00:50:36.539
was tragic, but it didn't quite actively paint

00:50:36.539 --> 00:50:40.260
him to be, like, a villain, you know? But the

00:50:40.260 --> 00:50:42.260
truth of, like, what he did when we find it out,

00:50:42.320 --> 00:50:44.659
abandoning his mother and sister to the slum

00:50:44.659 --> 00:50:46.639
so that he could live in the palace instead is,

00:50:46.659 --> 00:50:50.519
like, actually insanely bad. And I guess I'm,

00:50:50.519 --> 00:50:53.300
like, I just found myself reflecting on that

00:50:53.300 --> 00:50:55.639
after. And saying, like, I'm really glad they

00:50:55.639 --> 00:50:57.380
actually did that for his story, because I think

00:50:57.380 --> 00:51:01.280
a lot of the time in kid movies, the demon doesn't

00:51:01.280 --> 00:51:03.019
actually end up being a demon. You know what

00:51:03.019 --> 00:51:05.800
I mean? Like, it would be... Yeah, I killed somebody,

00:51:05.900 --> 00:51:08.099
but he was actually a super bad guy, and it was

00:51:08.099 --> 00:51:10.460
for this poor family that needed bread, because

00:51:10.460 --> 00:51:16.000
I'm Jean Valjean. Right, exactly. And this is

00:51:16.000 --> 00:51:23.900
where you get the Hugh Jackman impression. But,

00:51:23.920 --> 00:51:25.920
like, what Genu did was, like, actually genuinely

00:51:25.920 --> 00:51:28.360
very bad. And I think, so that's what, like,

00:51:28.440 --> 00:51:31.260
to me, that's what made his death so much better,

00:51:31.380 --> 00:51:36.940
too, is, like, retribution, I suppose. Retributionable.

00:51:38.360 --> 00:51:41.699
Retributionable. And supposedly, here's another

00:51:41.699 --> 00:51:43.760
fan theory for you guys. Supposedly, also, in

00:51:43.760 --> 00:51:45.840
the beginning sequence, when we see, like, the

00:51:45.840 --> 00:51:49.820
first demon hunter. trio they save a woman and

00:51:49.820 --> 00:51:51.880
a young girl from demons and i've seen people

00:51:51.880 --> 00:51:54.480
say that that was genie's family which is very

00:51:54.480 --> 00:51:56.420
interesting i don't know if there's any merit

00:51:56.420 --> 00:51:58.239
to that as well other than they look the same

00:51:58.239 --> 00:52:02.159
but the very first they don't look exactly the

00:52:02.159 --> 00:52:04.579
same though yeah yeah so they could just be older

00:52:04.579 --> 00:52:08.420
well because i saw this and i i went and i looked

00:52:08.420 --> 00:52:10.500
yeah and i went back and then i went forward

00:52:10.500 --> 00:52:13.900
and i went back and i went forward multiple times

00:52:13.900 --> 00:52:18.119
and they're very similar but it could Just be

00:52:18.119 --> 00:52:23.000
the animation. But I also feel like why would

00:52:23.000 --> 00:52:26.380
you make them that close? Yeah, that's my point.

00:52:26.460 --> 00:52:29.739
If there wasn't something there. Yeah. To go

00:52:29.739 --> 00:52:32.000
back to what you were talking about, I think

00:52:32.000 --> 00:52:35.500
it is imperative to the story's plot point that

00:52:35.500 --> 00:52:40.199
his sin was a lot worse. Because when I was watching

00:52:40.199 --> 00:52:41.880
this movie the first time and I went, that's

00:52:41.880 --> 00:52:44.460
it? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. He's going to

00:52:44.460 --> 00:52:46.280
reveal something more later. I can taste it.

00:52:46.380 --> 00:52:50.460
Like it was, it was in my bones with this idea

00:52:50.460 --> 00:52:54.820
of like, he is not being particularly forthcoming

00:52:54.820 --> 00:52:57.980
and this is going to bite his bottom later. And

00:52:57.980 --> 00:53:02.019
it did, did bite his bottom later. But, um, I,

00:53:02.099 --> 00:53:04.119
if you don't, I think it removes the emotional

00:53:04.119 --> 00:53:06.840
stakes quite a bit and it makes his death a lot

00:53:06.840 --> 00:53:09.659
less impactful because this is someone who's.

00:53:10.110 --> 00:53:14.989
genuinely a bad guy right he is selfish this

00:53:14.989 --> 00:53:19.510
is the epitome of evil in the way that he is

00:53:19.510 --> 00:53:21.869
separating himself out right in this time and

00:53:21.869 --> 00:53:23.210
in this culture this is you know we're still

00:53:23.210 --> 00:53:26.349
in a patriarchal form of society in korea this

00:53:26.349 --> 00:53:29.309
stage of of their history he is supposed to be

00:53:29.309 --> 00:53:31.989
taking care of his family and he abandons his

00:53:31.989 --> 00:53:36.010
little sister and his mother the woman who birthed

00:53:36.010 --> 00:53:41.789
him to the cold unforgiving arms of outside the

00:53:41.789 --> 00:53:44.670
palace. And I, that, that's, that's a big mistake,

00:53:44.789 --> 00:53:49.190
dude. Unforgivable. Yeah. When I watched it for

00:53:49.190 --> 00:53:51.590
the first time, because obviously, as I said,

00:53:51.630 --> 00:53:54.489
I had a baby crawling all over me. And so I couldn't

00:53:54.489 --> 00:53:57.110
pick up on every little detail. I thought it

00:53:57.110 --> 00:54:00.750
was his wife and daughter, which would have been

00:54:00.750 --> 00:54:04.630
way worse. Sisters and mothers everywhere going,

00:54:04.849 --> 00:54:09.250
no, it's not. I mean, But think about it, though.

00:54:09.329 --> 00:54:12.190
Yeah, I know. I'm sorry. Abandoning your wife

00:54:12.190 --> 00:54:14.550
and child is worse than abandoning your mom and

00:54:14.550 --> 00:54:18.869
your sister. Both horrible. But what I thought

00:54:18.869 --> 00:54:21.690
and then I'm like, and now he's over here 400

00:54:21.690 --> 00:54:25.670
years later and doesn't still doesn't care about

00:54:25.670 --> 00:54:28.710
said wife. I was very confused for a while. How

00:54:28.710 --> 00:54:31.869
am I supposed to be invested in this guy's romance

00:54:31.869 --> 00:54:35.269
when his previous romance went so poorly? Exactly.

00:54:35.900 --> 00:54:38.099
I was very confused for a short time until I

00:54:38.099 --> 00:54:42.420
figured it out. Oh, it's his mom and his sister.

00:54:42.519 --> 00:54:47.699
Well, that's way better. Way better. Just slightly

00:54:47.699 --> 00:54:55.019
less bad. Oh, okay. He may kiss Rumi now. But

00:54:55.019 --> 00:54:57.780
he doesn't. But he doesn't. He doesn't. He gets

00:54:57.780 --> 00:55:02.099
very close. With the flames of Guima at his back.

00:55:02.820 --> 00:55:06.869
Dun dun dun. No! Well, I actually skewed the

00:55:06.869 --> 00:55:13.869
open mic for his death. He died. Or did he? Or

00:55:13.869 --> 00:55:16.510
did he? Speaking of, the animation, including

00:55:16.510 --> 00:55:19.309
those sort of animated tricks around when Guima

00:55:19.309 --> 00:55:21.949
is absorbing people or not, or consuming them

00:55:21.949 --> 00:55:24.929
in fire, all that animation is just crazy good.

00:55:25.110 --> 00:55:28.469
I was so impressed when Into the Spider -Verse

00:55:28.469 --> 00:55:31.309
came out, because that animation was mind -boggling.

00:55:32.199 --> 00:55:35.340
Per any person that gets interviewed on any podcast

00:55:35.340 --> 00:55:38.280
or article at all that works in animation, they're

00:55:38.280 --> 00:55:42.699
like, this is next level groundbreaking, like

00:55:42.699 --> 00:55:46.699
super incredible sort of stuff, like original

00:55:46.699 --> 00:55:49.739
Pixar level going to change the industry type

00:55:49.739 --> 00:55:52.340
of thing. And I feel like we are seeing an iteration

00:55:52.340 --> 00:55:55.329
of. Alright, so this is what now good animation

00:55:55.329 --> 00:55:57.250
looks like that's coming out of that sort of

00:55:57.250 --> 00:56:00.289
Into the Spider -Verse realm. And I'm just very,

00:56:00.409 --> 00:56:03.829
very excited about that potential of what animated

00:56:03.829 --> 00:56:08.250
movies can look like now. No comments. Good.

00:56:08.369 --> 00:56:12.289
Okay. Oh my gosh, Emma. You came up with a thumbs

00:56:12.289 --> 00:56:21.429
up on the thing. Okay. Also, Guima's voice? Super

00:56:21.429 --> 00:56:25.769
cool. But... Does anybody else get a bit of vibes

00:56:25.769 --> 00:56:28.409
from the Prince of Egypt there? Anybody know

00:56:28.409 --> 00:56:32.650
what I'm talking about? You mean like God? Yeah,

00:56:32.869 --> 00:56:37.829
the burning bush. Which is a really cool scene.

00:56:37.989 --> 00:56:40.690
But I feel like they listened to that and they

00:56:40.690 --> 00:56:42.429
were like, that's what our demon sounds like.

00:56:43.329 --> 00:56:49.750
So I actually got that plus Calcifer. Calcifer.

00:56:49.869 --> 00:56:52.769
From Howl's Moving Castle? You hear Billy Crystal

00:56:52.769 --> 00:56:55.610
and Guima? No, in the visual. Oh, in the visual.

00:56:55.989 --> 00:56:58.469
This is what happens when you put Calcifer in

00:56:58.469 --> 00:57:02.389
a god body. Exactly. You put Val Kilmer and Billy

00:57:02.389 --> 00:57:08.510
Crystal together, you get Guima. No, just the

00:57:08.510 --> 00:57:12.389
animation was very Calcifer -esque. And then

00:57:12.389 --> 00:57:17.769
the voice. And so just all together, it was slightly

00:57:17.769 --> 00:57:20.650
disorienting because I was like, Kausa for now!

00:57:21.969 --> 00:57:24.710
Why would you do that? Also, you sound unlike

00:57:24.710 --> 00:57:31.389
Billy. Although I did recognize Lee Byung -hun's

00:57:31.389 --> 00:57:33.789
voice, like, immediately. Oh, yeah. Which was

00:57:33.789 --> 00:57:36.610
very exciting. Which character is that? So he

00:57:36.610 --> 00:57:38.690
plays the front man in Squid Game. And after

00:57:38.690 --> 00:57:42.780
watching him play that, like, that... terrifying

00:57:42.780 --> 00:57:46.800
role to be honest watching him play a little

00:57:46.800 --> 00:57:49.179
purple flame that is supposedly eating people

00:57:49.179 --> 00:57:52.579
was very fun and i definitely really liked that

00:57:52.579 --> 00:57:56.320
he didn't make guima like a big scary demon like

00:57:56.320 --> 00:58:00.099
he was just like kind of this this all -knowing

00:58:00.099 --> 00:58:05.679
flame amorphous flame that sometimes eats people

00:58:05.679 --> 00:58:08.480
which i guess is where you're getting the valkylmer

00:58:08.480 --> 00:58:12.829
god vibes from so i see that i see that continuing

00:58:12.829 --> 00:58:19.510
along with this film it is a very important moment

00:58:19.510 --> 00:58:23.909
to note when i fell in love with the film which

00:58:23.909 --> 00:58:28.449
was the appearance of a little hat on a bird

00:58:28.449 --> 00:58:34.610
and a and a big old blue tiger uh but really

00:58:34.610 --> 00:58:38.039
the bird i gotta tell you uh they are legit This

00:58:38.039 --> 00:58:41.019
is sussy and derpy. They are legit my favorite

00:58:41.019 --> 00:58:44.460
characters, and I don't know that that will ever

00:58:44.460 --> 00:58:47.340
change. You could write a whole nother much better

00:58:47.340 --> 00:58:49.860
movie, and this is already a great movie, and

00:58:49.860 --> 00:58:51.300
it could not have those characters, and I'd be

00:58:51.300 --> 00:58:56.659
like, it was not worth it. Nope. So my friend

00:58:56.659 --> 00:59:01.800
who told me to watch this movie, she warned me.

00:59:01.820 --> 00:59:04.969
She goes, I'll tell you. When the main character

00:59:04.969 --> 00:59:10.849
shows up. I was like, okay, sure. I'm going in

00:59:10.849 --> 00:59:14.789
with absolutely no information other than I had

00:59:14.789 --> 00:59:19.869
heard your idol. And so I had figured based on

00:59:19.869 --> 00:59:23.190
listening to that, the boy band was going to

00:59:23.190 --> 00:59:29.409
be bad. So from there, I went and I started watching

00:59:29.409 --> 00:59:32.889
it. You know, I kind of am watching and then

00:59:32.889 --> 00:59:35.269
I look at her and she goes, nope, not any of

00:59:35.269 --> 00:59:37.469
them. I was like, okay, I guess it's not any

00:59:37.469 --> 00:59:41.210
of these main characters that are the main character.

00:59:41.769 --> 00:59:44.150
And then we get introduced to all the guys and

00:59:44.150 --> 00:59:46.210
she's like, nope, not any of them either. I'm

00:59:46.210 --> 00:59:48.650
like, okay, what is happening here? And then

00:59:48.650 --> 00:59:57.780
that one. And I was like, yes, this tracks. The

00:59:57.780 --> 01:00:02.039
second I saw. Because you see them walking through

01:00:02.039 --> 01:00:05.880
in the demon world for a moment with Jinu, but

01:00:05.880 --> 01:00:11.940
they look relatively normal for that world. And

01:00:11.940 --> 01:00:14.699
then this first time you see them appear in the

01:00:14.699 --> 01:00:18.519
human world, you're like, ah, yes. I shall love

01:00:18.519 --> 01:00:24.440
you forever. And I love the fact that we find

01:00:24.440 --> 01:00:28.139
out and we get the visual of Jinu. Like, in the

01:00:28.139 --> 01:00:30.519
demon world, making a little hat for a little

01:00:30.519 --> 01:00:36.340
bird that he found. Like, what? It's very quite

01:00:36.340 --> 01:00:41.280
cute. It is so cute. Okay. Now that I've talked

01:00:41.280 --> 01:00:43.139
about my favorite part of the movie, we must

01:00:43.139 --> 01:00:45.900
talk about the actual legitimate complaint I

01:00:45.900 --> 01:00:47.940
have about this film. Which is, there's this

01:00:47.940 --> 01:00:50.820
sequence that happens as soon as their manager

01:00:50.820 --> 01:00:52.980
sort of gets kidnapped all the way up through,

01:00:53.239 --> 01:00:56.500
right before we have the sort of... climactic

01:00:56.500 --> 01:01:01.019
song where Rumi breaks the other two free and

01:01:01.019 --> 01:01:03.880
they start fighting. And the reason why I have

01:01:03.880 --> 01:01:05.800
a complaint here is because it feels a little

01:01:05.800 --> 01:01:09.420
bit rushed. We have this, you know, sort of huge,

01:01:09.599 --> 01:01:12.179
for lack of a better term, sort of a come to

01:01:12.179 --> 01:01:15.440
Jesus moment where Rumi is like, I'm a demon

01:01:15.440 --> 01:01:18.159
and this Han Moon is not the one that I want

01:01:18.159 --> 01:01:19.840
to work for. I want to work for something else.

01:01:19.900 --> 01:01:22.659
And Selene, you should kill me and my best friends.

01:01:23.489 --> 01:01:27.590
abandoned me and they're so mad that I was, you

01:01:27.590 --> 01:01:29.230
know, lying to them for years and years and years,

01:01:29.369 --> 01:01:32.809
which all it gets dealt with on a surface level

01:01:32.809 --> 01:01:35.809
and not really in depth. And that's, I think

01:01:35.809 --> 01:01:37.510
my biggest complaint is that there's just not

01:01:37.510 --> 01:01:40.869
enough development of the other two friends,

01:01:40.909 --> 01:01:43.469
feelings diving into that. Now they don't like

01:01:43.469 --> 01:01:44.849
the way that they set it up. They just don't

01:01:44.849 --> 01:01:47.650
have time where we're now rushing towards the

01:01:47.650 --> 01:01:49.489
end. But I think that's the main problem with

01:01:49.489 --> 01:01:51.010
the movie is that we needed a little bit more

01:01:51.010 --> 01:01:53.420
time through the journey. about this instead

01:01:53.420 --> 01:01:57.619
of boom now you know and we have to fight so

01:01:57.619 --> 01:02:00.239
now you're just back to me and in addition where

01:02:00.239 --> 01:02:03.980
it's like oh wait has celine been the other real

01:02:03.980 --> 01:02:07.480
villain this whole time yeah kind of but she's

01:02:07.480 --> 01:02:09.780
in the movie for like six seconds so there's

01:02:09.780 --> 01:02:12.440
not a real moment to sit with it now this might

01:02:12.440 --> 01:02:15.760
get fixed over time um if we get more movies

01:02:15.760 --> 01:02:19.059
and we get more in -depth conversations but Because

01:02:19.059 --> 01:02:21.139
this is the solo story and Selene ends up being

01:02:21.139 --> 01:02:23.940
such the big baddie who's been like, no, I can't

01:02:23.940 --> 01:02:26.260
love all of you. The demons are bad. And Rumi

01:02:26.260 --> 01:02:29.179
has this realization, no, all of me needs to

01:02:29.179 --> 01:02:31.920
be able to exist. And this isn't just going away

01:02:31.920 --> 01:02:35.099
when the Han Moon closes. That moment there is

01:02:35.099 --> 01:02:37.460
just whoosh, we whoosh right by it. And here

01:02:37.460 --> 01:02:39.659
we are into the big fight because the real storyline

01:02:39.659 --> 01:02:45.380
is her and her beau. I think, yeah, I do feel

01:02:45.380 --> 01:02:49.590
the same way. We have the whole scene with Rumi

01:02:49.590 --> 01:02:52.110
and Selene, and I feel like it definitely should

01:02:52.110 --> 01:02:56.650
have been expanded and dive into Selene's thoughts

01:02:56.650 --> 01:03:00.010
maybe a little bit more. And, you know, we have

01:03:00.010 --> 01:03:02.409
these flashbacks here and there of her saying,

01:03:02.449 --> 01:03:06.570
you can't tell them, they won't understand, they

01:03:06.570 --> 01:03:10.550
aren't going to like you anymore, essentially,

01:03:10.710 --> 01:03:14.610
which is kind of rich coming from her, who...

01:03:15.239 --> 01:03:18.179
only likes the part of her that represents her

01:03:18.179 --> 01:03:24.079
mom. And it's very troubling. And then also we

01:03:24.079 --> 01:03:29.519
get Mira and Zoe's snap into being taken over

01:03:29.519 --> 01:03:33.539
really just by one line. You don't deserve a

01:03:33.539 --> 01:03:37.360
family and you are too much and not enough, which

01:03:37.360 --> 01:03:42.280
are both very, very intense thoughts to have

01:03:42.280 --> 01:03:46.739
and lines. Clearly, these are thoughts that they

01:03:46.739 --> 01:03:49.280
have had and now they're giving into, but they're

01:03:49.280 --> 01:03:51.860
not explored really in the rest of the film,

01:03:51.900 --> 01:03:56.039
except for one line in Golden for each of them

01:03:56.039 --> 01:03:59.800
at the beginning. And the moment that Zoe has

01:03:59.800 --> 01:04:05.639
with Dr. Han, who peers into her soul with big

01:04:05.639 --> 01:04:09.760
bulging eyes. And it's really not clarified what

01:04:09.760 --> 01:04:13.099
happened with... mira's family you know did she

01:04:13.099 --> 01:04:15.719
just want to become an idol and they didn't understand

01:04:15.719 --> 01:04:18.960
that is there more to it was she just too different

01:04:18.960 --> 01:04:22.980
what's going on there we also have no information

01:04:22.980 --> 01:04:25.760
about zoe's family at all we know that she was

01:04:25.760 --> 01:04:30.179
raised in america and then we yeah we don't know

01:04:30.179 --> 01:04:32.599
how she got over here we don't know where her

01:04:32.599 --> 01:04:37.000
family is so We do know a little bit. The only

01:04:37.000 --> 01:04:39.219
thing I do know is that her parents are divorced,

01:04:39.260 --> 01:04:42.460
and one of her parents was in America, one was

01:04:42.460 --> 01:04:45.820
in Korea. And so I do know she is a child of

01:04:45.820 --> 01:04:51.539
divorce, which I think shows a lot in her character

01:04:51.539 --> 01:04:57.460
when Mira and Rumi fight. And she is very, very

01:04:57.460 --> 01:05:02.119
concerned about the group, about their relationship.

01:05:03.070 --> 01:05:06.269
And making sure they get along. So they gave

01:05:06.269 --> 01:05:08.590
her a little bit of that depth, but I completely

01:05:08.590 --> 01:05:11.170
agree with both of you guys. I think that they

01:05:11.170 --> 01:05:13.349
definitely could have been far more fleshed out.

01:05:13.469 --> 01:05:19.369
I think Selene is the one I said, you know, in

01:05:19.369 --> 01:05:23.309
a prequel would be amazing with her story. But

01:05:23.309 --> 01:05:27.250
also, I'm maybe under the impression that in

01:05:27.250 --> 01:05:30.030
order to try to understand how Selene was raising

01:05:30.030 --> 01:05:34.179
Rumi, you would have to see her entire relationship

01:05:34.179 --> 01:05:37.440
with Rumi's mom, which would take a lot longer

01:05:37.440 --> 01:05:41.860
than they can maybe put in the film. Seven TV

01:05:41.860 --> 01:05:45.099
episode series, here we go. Seven seasons on

01:05:45.099 --> 01:05:50.699
the way. No, I'm in total agreement. I think

01:05:50.699 --> 01:05:54.059
the last thing that is rushed in this latter

01:05:54.059 --> 01:06:00.219
section is also Rumi not only having her patterns

01:06:00.219 --> 01:06:02.699
spread and affect her voice, but now she has

01:06:02.699 --> 01:06:07.239
demon abilities. I have demon powers! Now I know

01:06:07.239 --> 01:06:11.699
how to use them instantly. Exactly. And I think

01:06:11.699 --> 01:06:15.699
it's a little odd. And there's not even a moment

01:06:15.699 --> 01:06:19.679
where she tries it. She just does it. And so

01:06:19.679 --> 01:06:24.679
we don't get any of her understanding, oh, look

01:06:24.679 --> 01:06:28.119
what I can do now. And we don't get any explanation

01:06:28.119 --> 01:06:32.340
as to why exactly. The only thing that I can

01:06:32.340 --> 01:06:35.760
think of that would mirror that is when Genu

01:06:35.760 --> 01:06:42.480
is explaining how he started transforming into

01:06:42.480 --> 01:06:45.900
a demon and the pattern started expanding on

01:06:45.900 --> 01:06:49.579
him. Then he became more and more and more demon.

01:06:49.659 --> 01:06:52.280
And then he was transported into the demon world

01:06:52.280 --> 01:06:57.000
for the rest of eternity. And so it's just very

01:06:57.000 --> 01:07:01.139
unclear because Rumi is only half demon, how

01:07:01.139 --> 01:07:06.320
she can have these powers, but isn't getting

01:07:06.320 --> 01:07:10.639
sucked into the demon world, but might, but keeps

01:07:10.639 --> 01:07:13.900
her patterns, but now is on the other side of

01:07:13.900 --> 01:07:17.469
the Han moon. Can she still teleport? I really,

01:07:17.530 --> 01:07:20.210
really, really thought we were going to have

01:07:20.210 --> 01:07:23.230
her at some point struggle so much with being

01:07:23.230 --> 01:07:26.110
bad for a second that she was going to hear Guima.

01:07:26.230 --> 01:07:28.250
I thought that moment was coming. As soon as

01:07:28.250 --> 01:07:31.389
they said, oh, you don't hear him in your ear,

01:07:31.510 --> 01:07:33.829
I thought, here it comes. We're getting like

01:07:33.829 --> 01:07:35.889
a Harry Potter scar moment where it's going to

01:07:35.889 --> 01:07:38.449
blare for a second. But no, we didn't. And that's

01:07:38.449 --> 01:07:41.050
okay. And I keep juxtaposing this movie with

01:07:41.050 --> 01:07:42.690
Into the Spider -Verse, I think mainly just because

01:07:42.690 --> 01:07:45.139
those are... my two favorite animated movies

01:07:45.139 --> 01:07:49.019
of this decade um and and they have obviously

01:07:49.019 --> 01:07:51.300
similarities both animation wise in terms of

01:07:51.300 --> 01:07:53.559
just like the absolute awe that is created through

01:07:53.559 --> 01:07:57.599
this and also with superhero elements now into

01:07:57.599 --> 01:08:00.440
the spider verse is like a movie about gaining

01:08:00.440 --> 01:08:02.920
powers so the moment that they lead up to in

01:08:02.920 --> 01:08:04.960
the climax where he finally you know what i am

01:08:04.960 --> 01:08:07.420
in complete control that's not what i'm asking

01:08:07.420 --> 01:08:11.539
for when i'm asking for a moment to pause to

01:08:11.539 --> 01:08:15.840
see That Rumi is like, oh, now I understand it.

01:08:15.920 --> 01:08:18.159
And boom, she's got powers. I would like that

01:08:18.159 --> 01:08:20.260
moment. And instead it's just like, bloop, bloop,

01:08:20.319 --> 01:08:22.239
bloop, bloop, bloop. And I've transported myself

01:08:22.239 --> 01:08:25.560
many places, many times. And it just kind of

01:08:25.560 --> 01:08:27.899
comes out of nowhere. And that's a little disappointing

01:08:27.899 --> 01:08:30.100
in that moment. I feel like you could give like

01:08:30.100 --> 01:08:34.779
two counts of a song to, oh, okay. And here we

01:08:34.779 --> 01:08:38.180
go. Which we don't get, and I think kind of is

01:08:38.180 --> 01:08:40.640
needed for that moment for me to be completely

01:08:40.640 --> 01:08:45.039
sunk into that story. Yeah, I agree. I see that.

01:08:45.119 --> 01:08:48.000
As a writer, though, I will say, as a writer

01:08:48.000 --> 01:08:52.899
who struggles immensely sometimes with trying

01:08:52.899 --> 01:08:55.779
to explain things, you can get away with it in

01:08:55.779 --> 01:08:58.520
kids' movies. I feel like maybe adults are the

01:08:58.520 --> 01:09:01.300
ones who are like, and why didn't, like, how

01:09:01.300 --> 01:09:04.670
did she know? But the kids are like. You know,

01:09:04.670 --> 01:09:07.350
and that's what's so fun about even, even, you

01:09:07.350 --> 01:09:09.630
know, I'm trying to write like a children's chapter

01:09:09.630 --> 01:09:13.350
book of my own. And it's like, I constantly tell

01:09:13.350 --> 01:09:15.869
myself to sit back and relax because I don't

01:09:15.869 --> 01:09:17.829
need to explain how every little thing works.

01:09:17.930 --> 01:09:21.890
The kids don't care about that. So I just, I

01:09:21.890 --> 01:09:26.670
know, I know, I know, I know. And I'm, I'm inclined

01:09:26.670 --> 01:09:30.340
to almost say like, because. The demon parts

01:09:30.340 --> 01:09:33.720
of her were always there. It almost just seems

01:09:33.720 --> 01:09:37.579
like something that she can just all of a sudden

01:09:37.579 --> 01:09:42.140
do because the powers have surfaced in their

01:09:42.140 --> 01:09:46.600
entirety, manifested. They can't do what they

01:09:46.600 --> 01:09:50.319
do in the other demon thing, Demon Slayer, where

01:09:50.319 --> 01:09:54.260
they take like 35 minutes out of a movie in order

01:09:54.260 --> 01:09:56.520
to explain how this kid is getting this power.

01:09:57.180 --> 01:10:00.079
So I get that. That was like a whole hour for

01:10:00.079 --> 01:10:04.680
just the one. I'm so happy to welcome you eventually

01:10:04.680 --> 01:10:06.760
into this fandom, Sierra. You will be just as

01:10:06.760 --> 01:10:09.460
frustrated and in love as all of us. It is so

01:10:09.460 --> 01:10:13.319
fun. It's one of my favorites. Yeah. You know,

01:10:13.359 --> 01:10:15.680
you don't always have to face down a horde of

01:10:15.680 --> 01:10:18.699
angry soldiers by yourself. Buckle up, Schmisseners.

01:10:18.840 --> 01:10:21.979
It's our Sansa is smarter than John category.

01:10:22.760 --> 01:10:26.119
What is the most important character moment of

01:10:26.119 --> 01:10:30.300
this movie? For me, I believe that it's Rumi

01:10:30.300 --> 01:10:34.000
deciding to embrace who she is and make a new

01:10:34.000 --> 01:10:38.560
Honmun. I think right up there with that is Jinu

01:10:38.560 --> 01:10:42.819
obviously sacrificing himself and, you know,

01:10:42.819 --> 01:10:45.439
giving himself a little bit of a redemption arc

01:10:45.439 --> 01:10:50.060
there at the end. You both make wonderful points.

01:10:50.220 --> 01:10:53.109
And you're both right. But what about when the

01:10:53.109 --> 01:11:04.550
bird appears? I think, Emma, I'm going to have

01:11:04.550 --> 01:11:06.270
to go a little bit on Sierra's side because I

01:11:06.270 --> 01:11:11.729
think I have the sacrificing himself person in

01:11:11.729 --> 01:11:16.029
a different section coming up as well. So when

01:11:16.029 --> 01:11:19.470
we get to important... and iconic scene i think

01:11:19.470 --> 01:11:21.510
that's where that's gonna land for me so i'm

01:11:21.510 --> 01:11:24.310
gonna give my slight vote over to roomie deciding

01:11:24.310 --> 01:11:27.529
to embrace but i could you well then so will

01:11:27.529 --> 01:11:30.090
i i think because i do think that's more powerful

01:11:30.090 --> 01:11:31.869
too i agree i was just trying to say something

01:11:31.869 --> 01:11:34.869
different oh you're so you're so great i'm just

01:11:34.869 --> 01:11:37.430
trying to be different no i agree i agree with

01:11:37.430 --> 01:11:43.119
you guys too how mirror of you I don't know if

01:11:43.119 --> 01:11:46.779
that's to me or Emma, but thank you. Emma, for

01:11:46.779 --> 01:11:51.699
trying to be different. I know you just lost

01:11:51.699 --> 01:11:54.619
a hand, both of you, because I won with the bird.

01:11:55.039 --> 01:12:01.340
But listen up. It's the I am your father category

01:12:01.340 --> 01:12:05.939
for most iconic character moment. Derpy knocking

01:12:05.939 --> 01:12:08.899
over the plant. I will take no arguments or broker

01:12:08.899 --> 01:12:16.510
any questions at this time. Yeah, that's hard.

01:12:16.630 --> 01:12:20.430
I think for me, it's the one and only dialogue

01:12:20.430 --> 01:12:23.909
line that baby Saja has on the game show. When

01:12:23.909 --> 01:12:27.130
he leans back and goes, goo goo ga ga. And that

01:12:27.130 --> 01:12:33.270
to me just is like everything to me. I really

01:12:33.270 --> 01:12:36.170
could go either way on both of those. I think

01:12:36.170 --> 01:12:40.609
I have one other to put in there. And it's not

01:12:40.609 --> 01:12:42.210
an honorable mention. It's the winner for sure.

01:12:43.449 --> 01:12:46.649
Have you guys considered when the bird appears?

01:12:51.289 --> 01:12:56.649
Mine is pretty much... Very bird -oriented. Pretty

01:12:56.649 --> 01:13:00.010
much that answer. It is when the bird appears.

01:13:00.510 --> 01:13:03.489
Slightly. But it's just not focused on the bird.

01:13:03.930 --> 01:13:05.729
I mean, when you put Derpy knocking over the

01:13:05.729 --> 01:13:08.689
plant, that got me hook and sinker. I did not

01:13:08.689 --> 01:13:10.350
think, Emma, that you would be able to come up

01:13:10.350 --> 01:13:12.170
with anything else that would beat it. And man,

01:13:12.310 --> 01:13:15.170
does that tie it for me. Because that is an incredible

01:13:15.170 --> 01:13:23.119
moment. So good. So excellent. Everybody sit

01:13:23.119 --> 01:13:26.220
down. Wait, or Abby's shirt. I'm so sorry to

01:13:26.220 --> 01:13:29.600
interrupt. No, do it, do it, do it. Go. Or Abby's

01:13:29.600 --> 01:13:32.119
shirt flaring up in the wind every time he like

01:13:32.119 --> 01:13:34.840
walks by and then is like, yeah, that one's always

01:13:34.840 --> 01:13:47.020
looking at me. Incredible. So good. Just the

01:13:47.020 --> 01:13:52.789
popcorn eyes. Everybody. Sit down. It's time

01:13:52.789 --> 01:13:58.270
for our I am Iron Man. Most iconic and most important

01:13:58.270 --> 01:14:03.829
scene category. Here is where I would put Genu

01:14:03.829 --> 01:14:08.770
sacrificing himself for Rumi and to defeat Kuima.

01:14:09.270 --> 01:14:13.949
I just think that that whole sequence of the

01:14:13.949 --> 01:14:17.529
beam coming towards Rumi. And then it doesn't

01:14:17.529 --> 01:14:21.029
reach her. And he's there. And their dialogue

01:14:21.029 --> 01:14:25.810
in that moment is very sweet. And it's a very

01:14:25.810 --> 01:14:30.590
pure moment, I feel. And then he disappears.

01:14:30.869 --> 01:14:36.449
And then she draws his soul as her sword. And

01:14:36.449 --> 01:14:40.050
it's fantastic. Okay, I'll come up with something

01:14:40.050 --> 01:14:45.149
else. And I'll say the moment when Mira and Zoe.

01:14:45.869 --> 01:14:50.649
both break out of the curse and sing along to

01:14:50.649 --> 01:14:53.510
This Is What It Sounds Like gave me goosebumps

01:14:53.510 --> 01:14:56.710
the first time I watched it. And then when they

01:14:56.710 --> 01:15:01.909
harmonized for the first time in that first rendition

01:15:01.909 --> 01:15:05.189
of the chorus, that one for me was like, okay.

01:15:06.449 --> 01:15:10.850
I really, really like that. I've seen a number

01:15:10.850 --> 01:15:14.369
of people say this, and I am inclined to agree.

01:15:14.569 --> 01:15:19.140
They go, How is everybody so excited about Golden

01:15:19.140 --> 01:15:22.420
when what it sounds like is right there? For

01:15:22.420 --> 01:15:25.779
real. I know. It's so good. It's incredible.

01:15:25.840 --> 01:15:28.899
It's so powerful. It is the one that gives me

01:15:28.899 --> 01:15:32.239
chills every single time. Yeah. The moment that

01:15:32.239 --> 01:15:35.340
they give to harmonize and they pause in like

01:15:35.340 --> 01:15:38.340
a way better version than Five Golden Rings is

01:15:38.340 --> 01:15:47.979
just incredible. I only thought of the Muppets

01:15:47.979 --> 01:15:50.760
one with Miss Piggy every time she sings that

01:15:50.760 --> 01:15:57.180
one. Incredible. I'm so glad that that joke went

01:15:57.180 --> 01:16:00.800
super well. Both of those scenes are really great.

01:16:01.119 --> 01:16:04.500
I do have something else to put forward to you.

01:16:04.600 --> 01:16:10.340
I think if you were to go back a little... I

01:16:10.340 --> 01:16:14.319
hate you so much. Man, that really got me. I

01:16:14.319 --> 01:16:19.600
think if you were to go back to earlier in the

01:16:19.600 --> 01:16:22.600
movie, there's a moment here that is just as

01:16:22.600 --> 01:16:24.420
important and just as iconic as either of the

01:16:24.420 --> 01:16:26.760
two scenes that you've mentioned. Have you considered

01:16:26.760 --> 01:16:35.170
when the bird appears? No? Because I think that's

01:16:35.170 --> 01:16:38.069
the winner for all three of those sections. It's

01:16:38.069 --> 01:16:39.949
the most iconic. It's the most important. It's

01:16:39.949 --> 01:16:44.250
the most iconic and important scene. The bird

01:16:44.250 --> 01:16:45.729
doesn't even have to do anything. It just has

01:16:45.729 --> 01:16:54.229
to appear. Fine. It's all good. As a bonus, everybody,

01:16:54.630 --> 01:16:58.850
on per our usual categories, we are reaching

01:16:58.850 --> 01:17:03.319
deep into the archives to find that... Camino

01:17:03.319 --> 01:17:08.100
isn't there. It's our Jack Sparrow did what category

01:17:08.100 --> 01:17:11.600
for deleted scenes that make a major impact on

01:17:11.600 --> 01:17:14.220
the story. Sierra, what deleted scene was there

01:17:14.220 --> 01:17:17.520
in this movie? There was an aquarium date and

01:17:17.520 --> 01:17:22.000
potentially a kiss. You can see some of the animation

01:17:22.000 --> 01:17:26.949
and storyboarding for said aquarium date. Where

01:17:26.949 --> 01:17:30.949
Rumi and Jinu would have met up for another time

01:17:30.949 --> 01:17:36.050
and would have spoken more and gotten closer

01:17:36.050 --> 01:17:39.489
and all of those things. But they ended up not

01:17:39.489 --> 01:17:43.310
putting it in the movie. Dang. That sucks. I

01:17:43.310 --> 01:17:46.329
know. It would have been cute. I think the reason

01:17:46.329 --> 01:17:49.609
why I'm angriest about this is because they're

01:17:49.609 --> 01:17:53.350
dates. are all facilitated by the bird and i

01:17:53.350 --> 01:18:05.510
want more bird in this movie excellent well good

01:18:05.510 --> 01:18:08.130
i'm glad that was there what a crazy little tidbit

01:18:08.130 --> 01:18:10.970
to put in i'm glad they maybe kissed question

01:18:10.970 --> 01:18:13.109
mark question mark question mark well there was

01:18:13.109 --> 01:18:17.409
so i believe that the that the backstory of it

01:18:17.409 --> 01:18:21.180
was that they ended up not putting a kiss in

01:18:21.180 --> 01:18:24.920
the movie because they took the aquarium date

01:18:24.920 --> 01:18:27.979
out and because then it would have made their

01:18:27.979 --> 01:18:32.159
relationship feel more rushed and so they wanted

01:18:32.159 --> 01:18:36.140
to have it slowed down and so they removed another

01:18:36.140 --> 01:18:39.819
time of them interacting one -on -one so that

01:18:39.819 --> 01:18:43.460
it didn't feel on that pace and so they didn't

01:18:43.460 --> 01:18:45.100
want to put the kiss in so they took the date

01:18:45.100 --> 01:18:48.949
out slash vice versa they went together Amazing.

01:18:49.369 --> 01:18:52.689
I will say, too, there were several songs that

01:18:52.689 --> 01:18:56.590
got cut and I wish they hadn't because I would

01:18:56.590 --> 01:18:59.489
have taken as many more as possible that EJ had

01:18:59.489 --> 01:19:02.810
to give us. And unfortunately, there were a few

01:19:02.810 --> 01:19:04.689
that got cut. And I think one of them actually

01:19:04.689 --> 01:19:09.630
was like a roomy, like sad solo ballad of like

01:19:09.630 --> 01:19:14.439
embracing and. really understanding like the

01:19:14.439 --> 01:19:17.239
the breakdown of her patterns and then the embracing

01:19:17.239 --> 01:19:21.079
of it supposedly i could be wrong but that's

01:19:21.079 --> 01:19:24.079
what i think i read and um that would have been

01:19:24.079 --> 01:19:28.159
great so what i'm hearing is that we need them

01:19:28.159 --> 01:19:34.159
to release a ep of the additional songs that

01:19:34.159 --> 01:19:36.800
they cut out we need to release all of them yeah

01:19:37.819 --> 01:19:42.439
Release the songs. Release the songs! One of

01:19:42.439 --> 01:19:43.920
the things that I think they're genuinely missing

01:19:43.920 --> 01:19:47.560
from a musical perspective is a duet with Celine

01:19:47.560 --> 01:19:49.560
and Rumi at the beginning and a duet with Rumi

01:19:49.560 --> 01:19:54.460
and Celine at the end. Rumi being hook -sinker,

01:19:54.560 --> 01:19:57.500
following all the different rules, kind of feeling

01:19:57.500 --> 01:20:00.479
self -conscious about it, watching her cover

01:20:00.479 --> 01:20:04.380
up her patterns. And trying to be happy and good

01:20:04.380 --> 01:20:06.100
about it. And then at the end, her breaking out

01:20:06.100 --> 01:20:08.399
of that. I think even if you don't have Selene

01:20:08.399 --> 01:20:11.380
for any other scenes, having two songs with her

01:20:11.380 --> 01:20:13.859
would have been extremely impactful for the story.

01:20:13.920 --> 01:20:15.739
That would have been really interesting. Well,

01:20:15.760 --> 01:20:17.520
it's so interesting actually that you brought

01:20:17.520 --> 01:20:20.899
that up because now I'm thinking like, obviously

01:20:20.899 --> 01:20:24.520
they sing in this movie, their songs, which classify.

01:20:25.880 --> 01:20:28.560
Yes, which classifies it right as a musical,

01:20:28.640 --> 01:20:31.579
but I wouldn't consider this a musical not with

01:20:31.579 --> 01:20:35.680
like, with the sound of the songs. And like,

01:20:35.739 --> 01:20:37.460
it's definitely not theater. Like it's very,

01:20:37.520 --> 01:20:40.899
it's very rooted in K -pop and K -pop traditions

01:20:40.899 --> 01:20:43.960
and K -pop sound. And I think that that's what's

01:20:43.960 --> 01:20:46.000
so interesting about it too, is like, until you

01:20:46.000 --> 01:20:48.100
said that, I did not think this was a musical

01:20:48.100 --> 01:20:51.420
at all. Yeah, well, and it's, and I think the

01:20:51.420 --> 01:20:54.079
main reason is that, you know, we have, you know,

01:20:54.100 --> 01:20:57.039
you go back like, 30 40 50 years and there's

01:20:57.039 --> 01:20:59.779
a lot more movies where it's an orchestral background

01:20:59.779 --> 01:21:02.060
where the action music doesn't have words to

01:21:02.060 --> 01:21:05.979
it now we have a lot of action with songs that

01:21:05.979 --> 01:21:08.079
are you know have actual lyrics to it and what

01:21:08.079 --> 01:21:10.159
they've done is they've taken those songs and

01:21:10.159 --> 01:21:12.159
just replaced it with their main characters singing

01:21:12.159 --> 01:21:15.500
it so it doesn't feel like we're actually in

01:21:15.500 --> 01:21:17.920
a musical it feels like oh this is just the normal

01:21:17.920 --> 01:21:19.760
soundtrack going on it just happens to be sung

01:21:19.760 --> 01:21:23.119
with the exception of maybe soda pop which i

01:21:23.119 --> 01:21:26.630
feel like is a Is a genuine, like, musical number

01:21:26.630 --> 01:21:30.189
that comes out. I don't mean the group. I mean,

01:21:30.189 --> 01:21:32.210
like, the actual song when they sing it feels

01:21:32.210 --> 01:21:34.390
like a musical number. Nobody else was thinking

01:21:34.390 --> 01:21:38.289
of the group when you said Soda Pop. Lovely.

01:21:38.670 --> 01:21:42.689
Sounds like that. Anyways, super embarrassed.

01:21:42.789 --> 01:21:49.390
Moving on. I'm sorry. Keep your horses safe.

01:21:49.489 --> 01:21:52.470
It's the, I'm gonna make him an offer he can't

01:21:52.470 --> 01:21:57.350
refuse. category of best lines fit check for

01:21:57.350 --> 01:22:01.930
my napalm era i gotta say this is by far my favorite

01:22:01.930 --> 01:22:05.010
lyric out of any of them i'm just obsessed with

01:22:05.010 --> 01:22:07.909
it it's so addictive so good i'm walking around

01:22:07.909 --> 01:22:11.310
my house all the time saying saying that yep

01:22:11.310 --> 01:22:14.170
saying i almost did it and then i got embarrassed

01:22:19.930 --> 01:22:24.409
But I need your take on that to live on the internet

01:22:24.409 --> 01:22:27.510
forever. Okay, wait, let me try to do it. Fit

01:22:27.510 --> 01:22:31.689
check for my napalm era. Yes! That's so good.

01:22:32.010 --> 01:22:36.810
Yes! That was amazing. Oh, that was great. I

01:22:36.810 --> 01:22:39.989
love it. I'm obsessed with it. Good. Excellent.

01:22:41.789 --> 01:22:44.649
The internet loves this, and the internet is

01:22:44.649 --> 01:22:47.289
never wrong. That's a great line from the manager.

01:22:48.430 --> 01:22:55.500
Bobby. Bobby. All right. Choo -choo. That was

01:22:55.500 --> 01:22:57.460
fantastic. That's when she's getting made fun

01:22:57.460 --> 01:23:00.760
of her pajamas, right? Yeah. When Genie's like,

01:23:00.800 --> 01:23:02.600
trained. But first, we need to talk about those

01:23:02.600 --> 01:23:10.680
pants. Teddy bears and trains. Choo -choo. Oh,

01:23:10.680 --> 01:23:13.779
my gosh. Play games with us. Another Genie. Yes.

01:23:17.800 --> 01:23:21.619
And I also didn't know how to put in his maniacal

01:23:21.619 --> 01:23:25.119
giggling as they're running away as a line, but

01:23:25.119 --> 01:23:26.859
I think that that should be in the whole line.

01:23:27.039 --> 01:23:33.140
That's too good. The leather has betrayed us.

01:23:35.319 --> 01:23:36.979
That's when they're going down the slides, right?

01:23:37.039 --> 01:23:43.680
Into the ball pit. What is the fan, the fanboy

01:23:43.680 --> 01:23:47.329
that they turn to in this? crown during this

01:23:47.329 --> 01:23:49.470
scene when he's like watching them come down

01:23:49.470 --> 01:23:56.430
and he's like yes yes it's the same one who ends

01:23:56.430 --> 01:24:01.029
up like ripping his shirt off underneath yeah

01:24:01.029 --> 01:24:09.010
uh who can do that magicians demons obviously

01:24:12.590 --> 01:24:15.409
zoe had so many cute little one -liners like

01:24:15.409 --> 01:24:18.770
the the one where they're coming to sit down

01:24:18.770 --> 01:24:20.869
at the meet and greet and she's like i don't

01:24:20.869 --> 01:24:23.229
want to sit next to it and then which one is

01:24:23.229 --> 01:24:24.890
i think it's a mystery that sits down she's like

01:24:24.890 --> 01:24:32.989
what's up what's up why does the bird wear a

01:24:32.989 --> 01:24:35.880
tiny hat I made it for the tiger, but the bird

01:24:35.880 --> 01:24:38.539
keeps stealing it. If we were picking a winner,

01:24:38.680 --> 01:24:40.979
I'd throw all my weight behind this, as you both

01:24:40.979 --> 01:24:48.140
know I this one. And then, away from the humorous

01:24:48.140 --> 01:24:51.920
lines and into the more impactful ones, why couldn't

01:24:51.920 --> 01:24:58.939
you love me? I do. All of me. Yeah. That is so

01:24:58.939 --> 01:25:04.189
good. I wanted to set you free. You did. You

01:25:04.189 --> 01:25:07.369
gave me my soul back. And now I give it to you.

01:25:07.609 --> 01:25:11.289
That's a good one. Another good one. It is so

01:25:11.289 --> 01:25:13.890
much better than any love confession could have

01:25:13.890 --> 01:25:17.710
been. Like, I love you means like literally nothing

01:25:17.710 --> 01:25:22.090
compared to I give you my soul. Like, that's

01:25:22.090 --> 01:25:25.510
incredible. For a kid's movie. Pretty phenomenal.

01:25:26.210 --> 01:25:29.369
Yeah. I'd put it right up there with I love you.

01:25:29.909 --> 01:25:36.460
I know. Or. I love you. It'll pass. Oof. Oh,

01:25:36.520 --> 01:25:38.479
that was a good one, too. That's a great one.

01:25:38.600 --> 01:25:40.979
Yeah, yeah. Get me back on here to talk about

01:25:40.979 --> 01:25:45.520
Fleabag someday. Absolutely. I could talk for

01:25:45.520 --> 01:25:46.739
a long time. I love Fleabag. Fleabag's great.

01:25:48.520 --> 01:25:50.500
Another thing that Sierra's never seen, and we

01:25:50.500 --> 01:25:52.479
will never have time to do any of this fun stuff.

01:25:52.680 --> 01:25:56.000
Shoot. I gotta say, the one thing about doing

01:25:56.000 --> 01:25:59.039
this is we don't have time for anything else

01:25:59.039 --> 01:26:01.460
when we're doing podcasting stuff. So we're like...

01:26:01.529 --> 01:26:03.409
It's been Star Wars and Stranger Things since

01:26:03.409 --> 01:26:05.689
April of last year. That's all we've done. So,

01:26:05.789 --> 01:26:14.149
Emma, I found K -pop during this pod. This. Do

01:26:14.149 --> 01:26:18.470
you know how difficult it has been to not fully

01:26:18.470 --> 01:26:23.630
fall into the K -pop hole? Yeah. Yeah. Wait,

01:26:23.689 --> 01:26:26.270
who did you find? I have to know. Straight kids.

01:26:26.489 --> 01:26:31.819
Okay, good. Excellent. Oh, yeah. Yeah, hook,

01:26:31.899 --> 01:26:35.699
line, sinker, all the way, 100%. Who's your bias?

01:26:36.260 --> 01:26:40.000
Felix. Yeah. Although a bias line is forming,

01:26:40.020 --> 01:26:42.380
and I'm kind of upset about it. Okay, okay, who?

01:26:44.100 --> 01:26:51.720
Hyunjin. Yeah. And I was thinking that Han was

01:26:51.720 --> 01:26:54.960
going to be in it for a little while, but I'm

01:26:54.960 --> 01:26:57.800
becoming very Minsung shipping. Oh, interesting,

01:26:58.100 --> 01:27:02.579
yeah. And so... I feel like I'm betraying Lino.

01:27:02.859 --> 01:27:08.760
No. But I also feel like Han and I are like the

01:27:08.760 --> 01:27:13.800
same person. Han is perfect. Han is so perfect.

01:27:13.880 --> 01:27:17.880
I love Han Jisung. He's so cute. He's so amazing.

01:27:18.159 --> 01:27:22.539
He's so cute. Sam has fallen asleep. Yeah, it's

01:27:22.539 --> 01:27:25.659
fine. It's fine. I'm watching Kingdom Legendary

01:27:25.659 --> 01:27:29.220
War right now for the first time and it's very

01:27:29.220 --> 01:27:32.130
exciting. Dear Lord, Sierra. You are invested.

01:27:32.310 --> 01:27:35.569
Look at that. Look at that collection. We love

01:27:35.569 --> 01:27:37.869
an invested woman. You want to see? I'll show

01:27:37.869 --> 01:27:40.250
you my BTS bathroom. I'll send a video of my

01:27:40.250 --> 01:27:44.470
BTS bathroom. My roommates and I. Listen, Sierra,

01:27:44.649 --> 01:27:47.050
whatever it is that you think that that bathroom

01:27:47.050 --> 01:27:50.470
looks like is not what the bathroom looks like.

01:27:51.430 --> 01:27:55.430
I'm very excited. It's incredible. We have spent

01:27:55.430 --> 01:27:58.300
a lot of time and money on it. That's very exciting.

01:27:58.520 --> 01:28:02.840
Yeah. Yeah. I will say most of these are from

01:28:02.840 --> 01:28:07.220
a used place, so there was nothing in them. Yeah,

01:28:07.220 --> 01:28:08.680
it's called thrift book shopping. It's great.

01:28:08.819 --> 01:28:11.760
Sad. You didn't get all the fun stuff, though.

01:28:11.960 --> 01:28:14.539
Emma, when you say we've spent a lot of time

01:28:14.539 --> 01:28:17.680
and money on the bathroom, I think it's important

01:28:17.680 --> 01:28:20.000
that you fulfill the rest of the context of that

01:28:20.000 --> 01:28:23.760
sentence, which is the where. That it was spent

01:28:23.760 --> 01:28:28.699
at. A lot of time and a lot of money at McDonald's.

01:28:33.000 --> 01:28:35.800
Now I know what this bathroom is going to look

01:28:35.800 --> 01:28:38.779
like. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Now I know. I'm

01:28:38.779 --> 01:28:41.140
very excited. I'm even more excited than I was

01:28:41.140 --> 01:28:42.899
before. It's even more intense than you think

01:28:42.899 --> 01:28:46.640
it's going to be. You have no idea. I'm so excited.

01:28:47.119 --> 01:28:49.520
I haven't eaten. We haven't been able to eat

01:28:49.520 --> 01:28:52.399
at McDonald's since, by the way. It's impossible

01:28:52.399 --> 01:28:56.640
to eat that now. I've gone through sympathy withdrawal.

01:28:58.260 --> 01:29:03.699
Not really. Okay. So you may think that I'm going

01:29:03.699 --> 01:29:06.680
to discuss how the best line is the bird chirping,

01:29:06.800 --> 01:29:11.039
but you would be wrong. The best line is not

01:29:11.039 --> 01:29:14.859
in English. It's also not in Korean. You might

01:29:14.859 --> 01:29:16.739
be sitting there, dear listeners, missioners,

01:29:16.739 --> 01:29:19.520
and thinking. Why is Sam doing a little soap

01:29:19.520 --> 01:29:21.899
op moments about his best line thing? Because

01:29:21.899 --> 01:29:25.720
it is the best thing you will see all day. I

01:29:25.720 --> 01:29:27.739
want you all at some point to open up whatever

01:29:27.739 --> 01:29:30.140
social media thing you want to and search the

01:29:30.140 --> 01:29:36.439
term Italian Zoe. Because the Italian version

01:29:36.439 --> 01:29:42.100
of K -pop Demon Hunter has the best line of any

01:29:42.100 --> 01:29:45.100
of them. When they're sitting in the plane and

01:29:45.100 --> 01:29:47.979
they're eating. And those demons come out, and

01:29:47.979 --> 01:29:49.720
they're like, oh, shoot, it's the demons, and

01:29:49.720 --> 01:29:52.420
they're all mad. And Zoe has that mouthful of

01:29:52.420 --> 01:29:57.020
fries moment. It's way better in Italian than

01:29:57.020 --> 01:30:00.979
it is in English. So everybody go and watch that.

01:30:01.659 --> 01:30:04.060
That's the best line, even though we're not picking

01:30:04.060 --> 01:30:07.279
winners. But that is it! I will air the other

01:30:07.279 --> 01:30:13.260
questions! Okay. Ladies and gentlemen, if you

01:30:13.260 --> 01:30:16.340
would please now board the TARDIS. We are going

01:30:16.340 --> 01:30:19.479
to be exploring the what -ifs of this universe

01:30:19.479 --> 01:30:25.600
with our Get Out category. What are the biggest

01:30:25.600 --> 01:30:29.800
what -ifs provided by this movie? I've got three

01:30:29.800 --> 01:30:31.760
that I'll just throw at you all at once. We can

01:30:31.760 --> 01:30:36.239
discuss kind of en masse. What if Rumi is killed

01:30:36.239 --> 01:30:40.180
by Selene? What if Rumi isn't accepted by Zoe

01:30:40.180 --> 01:30:44.760
and Mira and they lose? What if Rumi joins Guima?

01:30:45.449 --> 01:30:47.970
I'm inclined to say the first two, and especially

01:30:47.970 --> 01:30:50.909
the second, just wouldn't happen. Because they

01:30:50.909 --> 01:30:53.750
love her so much. They love her enough to look

01:30:53.750 --> 01:30:57.090
past the patterns. So I just don't think that

01:30:57.090 --> 01:31:00.470
there is one in which Zoe and Mira wouldn't accept

01:31:00.470 --> 01:31:04.829
her at some point. So if you're Marvel, and I'm

01:31:04.829 --> 01:31:06.649
pitching you a what -if episode, you would just

01:31:06.649 --> 01:31:10.970
go... No. Throwing it out. Thank you. Next. Yeah.

01:31:11.050 --> 01:31:13.949
Okay. There's no. So I understand with Zoe and

01:31:13.949 --> 01:31:15.390
Mira for sure. I think there's a lot of contextual

01:31:15.390 --> 01:31:17.329
evidence to say like this just literally was

01:31:17.329 --> 01:31:19.510
never in the cards. But you don't think there's

01:31:19.510 --> 01:31:21.869
an ounce of Selene that is like, oh my gosh,

01:31:21.890 --> 01:31:23.710
she doesn't want to work for this Han Moon that

01:31:23.710 --> 01:31:25.729
I've been working for forever. She's going to

01:31:25.729 --> 01:31:27.949
continue to be demon. This is her dad coming

01:31:27.949 --> 01:31:30.229
out. I'm going to kill her before she ruins the

01:31:30.229 --> 01:31:32.630
whole world. I certainly think that could be

01:31:32.630 --> 01:31:35.329
a possibility, especially considering I think

01:31:35.329 --> 01:31:40.500
Selene. appears to have a fear of demons that

01:31:40.500 --> 01:31:45.399
the girls don't seem to have um which could be

01:31:45.399 --> 01:31:49.500
you know i don't know i'm almost like newer generation

01:31:49.500 --> 01:31:52.399
thinking about things that aren't as scary as

01:31:52.399 --> 01:31:54.300
older generations think they are and i think

01:31:54.300 --> 01:31:59.539
that celine's sense of duty would certainly cause

01:31:59.539 --> 01:32:02.819
her to do that and i think that was the fear

01:32:02.819 --> 01:32:05.850
that she had in place from the very beginning

01:32:05.850 --> 01:32:08.130
having to raise roomie having to tell her to

01:32:08.130 --> 01:32:13.029
cover things up i think that if roomie did come

01:32:13.029 --> 01:32:15.970
into a moment where it seemed like maybe she's

01:32:15.970 --> 01:32:18.729
going to accept this demon part of herself i

01:32:18.729 --> 01:32:21.250
think celine would have a sense of i have to

01:32:21.250 --> 01:32:27.850
do what i am supposed to do yeah yeah okay fair

01:32:27.850 --> 01:32:32.130
enough what if roomie joins guima though and

01:32:32.130 --> 01:32:38.439
was like i don't It wouldn't happen. No. I mean,

01:32:38.460 --> 01:32:40.380
I don't think that it would happen like that.

01:32:40.460 --> 01:32:46.819
I think the only way that Guima could really

01:32:46.819 --> 01:32:53.600
tempt Rumi with going to the demon world would

01:32:53.600 --> 01:32:55.880
be if he claimed to have information about her

01:32:55.880 --> 01:32:59.300
father. Because Selene has clearly not told her

01:32:59.300 --> 01:33:06.850
anything, if anything at all. And so if we have

01:33:06.850 --> 01:33:11.329
any information about, you know, I know who your

01:33:11.329 --> 01:33:14.050
father was or something like that, or I can take

01:33:14.050 --> 01:33:17.949
you to him or anything like that, potentially

01:33:17.949 --> 01:33:22.850
Rumi could temporarily join forces in order to

01:33:22.850 --> 01:33:27.050
find out that information. I don't know how that

01:33:27.050 --> 01:33:30.710
would necessarily impact. guima's current plan

01:33:30.710 --> 01:33:34.510
which just seems to be to absorb as many souls

01:33:34.510 --> 01:33:40.590
as possible and to stop the hon moon from reforming

01:33:40.590 --> 01:33:44.210
so that the demons can spread throughout the

01:33:44.210 --> 01:33:47.710
human world at some point then there's no humans

01:33:47.710 --> 01:33:51.670
and it's all just demons so it seems a slightly

01:33:51.670 --> 01:33:55.829
short -sighted plan but see most villains don't

01:33:55.829 --> 01:34:00.510
have long -term goals i think we're yeah that's

01:34:00.510 --> 01:34:06.970
true uh me get power then nothing um no i think

01:34:06.970 --> 01:34:09.449
see i think that we're we're moving towards a

01:34:09.449 --> 01:34:12.109
sequel here we're at the very end of it sort

01:34:12.109 --> 01:34:14.869
of like in an empire strikes back or stranger

01:34:14.869 --> 01:34:17.689
things sort of way where things are now cascading

01:34:17.689 --> 01:34:21.350
into it being sort of bad We've got Rumi agreeing

01:34:21.350 --> 01:34:23.649
to go down to the demon world, whether it's to

01:34:23.649 --> 01:34:27.609
save Jinu or to get answers about her father,

01:34:27.670 --> 01:34:30.310
or because Guima has offered her something that

01:34:30.310 --> 01:34:33.449
the powers that be up above cannot, which is

01:34:33.449 --> 01:34:35.930
like, all right, you want a chance to learn and

01:34:35.930 --> 01:34:39.229
to actually save these demons? Come join us or

01:34:39.229 --> 01:34:40.909
else you'll never see anything like this. And

01:34:40.909 --> 01:34:44.350
I think that's where we're headed. And I really

01:34:44.350 --> 01:34:47.350
hope that they don't try and overplay. Oh, is

01:34:47.350 --> 01:34:50.909
Rumi going to join the demons? It could be fine

01:34:50.909 --> 01:34:54.250
if Zoe and Miro were like, what is she doing?

01:34:54.270 --> 01:34:56.090
But the audience knows that it's all for good.

01:34:56.310 --> 01:34:58.369
But I don't want a situation like with Lucas

01:34:58.369 --> 01:34:59.850
in season four of Stranger Things where you're

01:34:59.850 --> 01:35:02.310
like, will he join the psychopath basketball

01:35:02.310 --> 01:35:07.010
men? No, he won't. And that was just kind of

01:35:07.010 --> 01:35:08.789
not my favorite storyline. So I hope they don't

01:35:08.789 --> 01:35:14.430
do that with Rumi. Yeah. I don't know. Back in

01:35:14.430 --> 01:35:18.420
September, I wrote... brit and our other friend

01:35:18.420 --> 01:35:23.220
my plot for the sequel to k -pop demon hunters

01:35:23.220 --> 01:35:27.420
maybe this is the time to read on patreon you

01:35:27.420 --> 01:35:29.720
guys can find this on patreon sierra will record

01:35:29.720 --> 01:35:31.579
it and we'll put it there so when we when we

01:35:31.579 --> 01:35:33.939
finally do roll out our patreon which you'll

01:35:33.939 --> 01:35:35.960
see on on social media when we finally do that

01:35:35.960 --> 01:35:38.119
it will be there and you guys will hear it perfect

01:35:38.119 --> 01:35:44.890
yes excellent my what if What if Genu followed

01:35:44.890 --> 01:35:49.069
through on the plan and didn't sabotage Huntrix?

01:35:49.850 --> 01:35:55.430
It wouldn't happen. Throw it away. My favorite

01:35:55.430 --> 01:35:59.390
answer. I think this one is interesting because

01:35:59.390 --> 01:36:05.289
I think that obviously we know the sabotage was

01:36:05.289 --> 01:36:09.090
the catalyst for everybody. In Rumi's life, finding

01:36:09.090 --> 01:36:12.130
out who she actually is. I think they would have

01:36:12.130 --> 01:36:18.189
actually won the Idol Awards. I think that the

01:36:18.189 --> 01:36:20.869
Hon Moon would probably have been sealed or at

01:36:20.869 --> 01:36:24.649
least would have gotten like 99 % there. You

01:36:24.649 --> 01:36:26.750
know, like I feel like because that was their

01:36:26.750 --> 01:36:28.850
end goal. That was if we perform golden at the

01:36:28.850 --> 01:36:31.770
Idol Awards, the Hon Moon will be sealed. So

01:36:31.770 --> 01:36:34.369
I think I think that if they were able to do

01:36:34.369 --> 01:36:37.640
that. It would happen, but I just feel like there

01:36:37.640 --> 01:36:41.819
would be something that she's missing there that

01:36:41.819 --> 01:36:45.039
would, you know, eventually become her secret

01:36:45.039 --> 01:36:48.180
getting out in another way. And I don't think

01:36:48.180 --> 01:36:50.720
that, like, I don't know what that looks like,

01:36:50.760 --> 01:36:54.319
but I don't think that it would be just sealed

01:36:54.319 --> 01:36:58.239
all as well. Her secret is safe. See, I think

01:36:58.239 --> 01:37:01.119
what happens is, I think this is going to lead

01:37:01.119 --> 01:37:04.460
to Rumi's... almost demise where it succeeds.

01:37:04.520 --> 01:37:08.359
The whole mood closes and she starts to, to fade

01:37:08.359 --> 01:37:10.939
like all the other demons. And it would take

01:37:10.939 --> 01:37:13.659
Rumi and Zoe being like, no, we want to, we love

01:37:13.659 --> 01:37:15.479
all of her. And Celine being like, you cannot

01:37:15.479 --> 01:37:17.859
open, you cannot stop this from happening. Like

01:37:17.859 --> 01:37:19.779
this sucks, but you got to let this go. And Zoe

01:37:19.779 --> 01:37:21.720
and, and Mira being like, absolutely not. And

01:37:21.720 --> 01:37:23.560
breaking it open. And then them being like, we've

01:37:23.560 --> 01:37:25.699
got to fight for something different. So I think

01:37:25.699 --> 01:37:27.859
it's a very similar ending, but I think the emotional

01:37:27.859 --> 01:37:30.220
stakes are actually a little bit better. I actually

01:37:30.220 --> 01:37:32.750
really like that. Yeah. I'm a great writer, turns

01:37:32.750 --> 01:37:36.289
out. As a writer who never struggles, Emma. No,

01:37:36.310 --> 01:37:43.850
I'm kidding. I had no idea. Wow. I had no idea,

01:37:43.930 --> 01:37:45.590
Sam, that you were a writer. Oh, okay, cool.

01:37:47.930 --> 01:37:50.829
It's me giving Emma a furious face for the audio

01:37:50.829 --> 01:37:56.670
-only fans, which are everybody. Next category.

01:37:57.369 --> 01:38:00.829
Everyone off the stage. Cue Gandalf questions.

01:38:01.420 --> 01:38:04.020
Questions that need answering. Is Genu really

01:38:04.020 --> 01:38:06.699
dead? It's the only thing worth asking. Mm -hmm.

01:38:07.439 --> 01:38:09.939
What about the other Saju boys? Okay, that's

01:38:09.939 --> 01:38:13.359
a good question, too. And how exactly does this

01:38:13.359 --> 01:38:15.699
new Honmoon work, and how is it different from

01:38:15.699 --> 01:38:18.000
the old one? All right, all right. I stand corrected.

01:38:18.119 --> 01:38:19.960
These are all good questions. There's more than

01:38:19.960 --> 01:38:22.479
just, is Genu dead? But is Genu dead is huge,

01:38:22.640 --> 01:38:25.199
right? It's kind of the, there's going to be

01:38:25.199 --> 01:38:26.720
a sequel. He's going to be back. He's not actually

01:38:26.720 --> 01:38:30.500
dead. This is silly, but he's not dead. Right?

01:38:30.600 --> 01:38:34.159
We're all in agreement? I don't know. Okay. I

01:38:34.159 --> 01:38:35.739
don't know. I kind of feel like he should be

01:38:35.739 --> 01:38:39.720
dead. You come into my podcast. No, I'm kidding.

01:38:41.979 --> 01:38:45.979
And defy you. I really, really like Genu, and

01:38:45.979 --> 01:38:48.239
I love Genu and Rumi. I wish that we had gotten

01:38:48.239 --> 01:38:52.199
so much more of them. But I feel like, I feel

01:38:52.199 --> 01:38:57.300
like, unless... See, and this is also trying

01:38:57.300 --> 01:38:59.539
to answer like, what is this new Hanmoon? Is

01:38:59.539 --> 01:39:02.539
the new Hanmoon, did it kill Grima? Or did it

01:39:02.539 --> 01:39:06.060
just put him back down in the demon world? And

01:39:06.060 --> 01:39:08.380
in that case, then maybe Jinu's soul is still

01:39:08.380 --> 01:39:11.640
there. I do think like, but can we get it back?

01:39:11.939 --> 01:39:15.020
I don't know about that. I think Grima is going

01:39:15.020 --> 01:39:17.680
to end up being like Oogie Boogie in A Nightmare

01:39:17.680 --> 01:39:19.460
Before Christmas, where he's just filled with

01:39:19.460 --> 01:39:21.119
the souls of everybody else. So as soon as you

01:39:21.119 --> 01:39:24.159
sort of split open the seam of his fire, it's

01:39:24.159 --> 01:39:27.609
going to be like... Sort of Hercules -esque where

01:39:27.609 --> 01:39:30.170
all the souls come out. What I think is there's

01:39:30.170 --> 01:39:32.850
a really dark moment in this movie that often

01:39:32.850 --> 01:39:36.689
gets overlooked. And it's the part where the

01:39:36.689 --> 01:39:39.689
newscaster is talking about all of these missing

01:39:39.689 --> 01:39:42.449
people. And it's showing the wall of missing

01:39:42.449 --> 01:39:45.600
people. person's posters and so you have so many

01:39:45.600 --> 01:39:48.359
people who have who are dying and getting their

01:39:48.359 --> 01:39:51.659
souls taken like do they come did they come back

01:39:51.659 --> 01:39:54.600
at the end too did their souls get released i

01:39:54.600 --> 01:39:57.659
don't think so so like all of these people are

01:39:57.659 --> 01:40:00.819
just dead that's like so crazy dark we think

01:40:00.819 --> 01:40:03.800
yeah so i guess if they can come back somehow

01:40:03.800 --> 01:40:07.380
then i suppose genu probably could as well would

01:40:07.380 --> 01:40:09.560
you be more satisfied with a new boy furumi in

01:40:09.560 --> 01:40:13.020
a sequel no Yeah, okay. I think that's the point

01:40:13.020 --> 01:40:15.659
for me, too. I think if they put too much emotional

01:40:15.659 --> 01:40:18.380
capital into Genu and Rumi's relationship, and

01:40:18.380 --> 01:40:20.619
so if you're going to have a sequel, there has

01:40:20.619 --> 01:40:23.020
to be a way to get him back. You know, maybe

01:40:23.020 --> 01:40:25.260
Adam Driver could create that movie, and then

01:40:25.260 --> 01:40:27.140
we could get, instead of the hunt for Ben Solo,

01:40:27.319 --> 01:40:32.119
we can get the hunt for Genu. Oh, no. So, because

01:40:32.119 --> 01:40:36.380
we've done some fan theories, there was one fan

01:40:36.380 --> 01:40:42.590
theory that I saw. It does appear that, so this

01:40:42.590 --> 01:40:44.789
part is not fan theory. It does appear that Rumi

01:40:44.789 --> 01:40:48.670
creates her new sword out of Jinu's soul as he

01:40:48.670 --> 01:40:53.409
releases it to her at the end. And then she uses

01:40:53.409 --> 01:40:57.489
the sword to then attack Guima. Kill, question

01:40:57.489 --> 01:41:00.970
mark, whatever. There are some people who then

01:41:00.970 --> 01:41:05.789
listen to the continued song of what it sounds

01:41:05.789 --> 01:41:11.720
like and hear an echo. That almost sounds like.

01:41:11.720 --> 01:41:16.220
Genu singing. People have detected. That it is

01:41:16.220 --> 01:41:19.880
just. How do you say her name again? Celine.

01:41:20.579 --> 01:41:26.319
EJ. So people have detected. That it is just

01:41:26.319 --> 01:41:31.140
one of EJ's. Many many. Vocal qualities. That

01:41:31.140 --> 01:41:36.159
is just layered underneath. But. That would be

01:41:36.159 --> 01:41:39.600
very fascinating. If he is like living on. as

01:41:39.600 --> 01:41:45.520
part of her slash part of her weaponry, I suppose.

01:41:45.720 --> 01:41:49.399
How beautiful. Yeah. That's so interesting. And

01:41:49.399 --> 01:41:53.300
if that is the case, rather than him being somewhere

01:41:53.300 --> 01:41:56.159
else, then potentially they could find a way

01:41:56.159 --> 01:42:00.579
to extract him from there. Whether or not it

01:42:00.579 --> 01:42:04.779
is him singing. Right. Yeah. I like that. I have

01:42:04.779 --> 01:42:08.079
the most important question here. Which is, when

01:42:08.079 --> 01:42:14.300
will we get a bird and cat spinoff? If this was

01:42:14.300 --> 01:42:17.619
produced by Disney, we would have multiple shorts

01:42:17.619 --> 01:42:20.579
by now. Yeah. Right? And also, like, this would

01:42:20.579 --> 01:42:22.800
be, like, Penguins of Madagascar, this would

01:42:22.800 --> 01:42:29.279
be that, right? Yes. Certainly. Maybe someday.

01:42:29.439 --> 01:42:32.960
Yeah, they need a few cinematic shorts, for sure.

01:42:34.840 --> 01:42:37.239
Rip open that candy wrapper and show us your

01:42:37.239 --> 01:42:40.439
golden ticket. It's the Veruca Salt Award for

01:42:40.439 --> 01:42:43.140
a piece of memorabilia we really, really, really

01:42:43.140 --> 01:42:46.539
need. I need a Funko Pop burb. That's it. Just

01:42:46.539 --> 01:42:49.960
the burb. I don't need derpy. I love derpy, but

01:42:49.960 --> 01:42:52.140
I just need the burb. That's it. I would like

01:42:52.140 --> 01:42:57.680
the tiny hat. But it's animated, Sierra, so you're

01:42:57.680 --> 01:43:00.760
not going to be able to pick it up. Yes, make

01:43:00.760 --> 01:43:06.149
me a... 3D version of the tiny hat. Okay. You

01:43:06.149 --> 01:43:09.649
got it. That's what I want. And I would really

01:43:09.649 --> 01:43:15.770
like a series of small figures of the Saja Boys

01:43:15.770 --> 01:43:18.590
to be put in all of the McDonald's Happy Meals

01:43:18.590 --> 01:43:26.050
for the next four months that I can go and spend

01:43:26.050 --> 01:43:28.909
a lot of money on to collect them all, like I

01:43:28.909 --> 01:43:35.960
have done before. BTS, BTS, BTS. All right, great.

01:43:36.520 --> 01:43:39.460
Dust off that card deck and get ready to shuffle.

01:43:39.800 --> 01:43:44.899
It's our Joker category for who is the MVP of

01:43:44.899 --> 01:43:48.819
this movie. I think there's maybe just one answer.

01:43:49.800 --> 01:43:54.300
It's Derpy slash Sussy, and we will not be taking

01:43:54.300 --> 01:43:57.739
questions at this time. None. They are so iconic.

01:43:57.840 --> 01:43:59.880
There are balloons for them at this year's Macy's

01:43:59.880 --> 01:44:02.720
Thanksgiving Day Parade. That makes me so happy.

01:44:03.180 --> 01:44:06.819
I saw that they were practice flying today. I

01:44:06.819 --> 01:44:11.699
was like, wow. Incredible. That's so good. Right

01:44:11.699 --> 01:44:14.500
there with Snoopy and all the good things. And

01:44:14.500 --> 01:44:18.279
Pikachu. And Pikachu. Yeah. Today's public service

01:44:18.279 --> 01:44:22.159
announcement is don't trust fire ever. It can

01:44:22.159 --> 01:44:24.220
burn down your house, burn up your favorite stuffed

01:44:24.220 --> 01:44:26.239
animal, and also eat the souls of everyone you

01:44:26.239 --> 01:44:29.180
know and love. So go out and buy that fire extinguisher

01:44:29.180 --> 01:44:35.739
today. Excellent. Thank you. Thank you, listeners

01:44:35.739 --> 01:44:38.560
for listening to this episode of Fandom Shmandum.

01:44:38.680 --> 01:44:40.899
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01:44:40.899 --> 01:44:43.100
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01:44:48.579 --> 01:44:52.960
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01:44:52.960 --> 01:44:55.479
big thanks to our guest, Emma Mayer, for coming

01:44:55.479 --> 01:44:57.939
in today. Emma, really, it was a big pleasure

01:44:57.939 --> 01:45:00.460
having you. It was such a pleasure being here.

01:45:00.579 --> 01:45:04.119
Thank you. Oh, great. And thank you again for

01:45:04.119 --> 01:45:07.859
braving the late night of the East Coast world

01:45:07.859 --> 01:45:10.439
that you are on. It's just getting started, really.

01:45:12.420 --> 01:45:14.279
Is there anything that you would like to plug

01:45:14.279 --> 01:45:17.439
anywhere that we can follow you? Yeah, follow

01:45:17.439 --> 01:45:22.250
my bookstagram, at Emma M. Shelf. Instagram on

01:45:22.250 --> 01:45:27.270
TikTok. And that's about it. Excellent. Well,

01:45:27.449 --> 01:45:31.949
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01:45:31.949 --> 01:45:33.869
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01:45:33.869 --> 01:45:35.850
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01:45:35.850 --> 01:45:39.050
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01:45:39.050 --> 01:45:41.689
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01:45:42.010 --> 01:45:44.189
Don't forget to tip your hat -stealing birds.

01:45:44.529 --> 01:45:49.479
And fare thee well! Fandom Schmandom was created

01:45:49.479 --> 01:45:52.180
by Sam Williams and Sierra Obermark. The show

01:45:52.180 --> 01:45:54.939
is produced by Aurelia Lieb. The editor is Brittany

01:45:54.939 --> 01:46:16.909
Fisher. The music is by Jeremiah Alves. This

01:46:16.909 --> 01:46:19.970
podcast is full of spiders. I mean, spoilers.

01:46:20.229 --> 01:46:23.949
It's full of spoilers. You must. A group of singers

01:46:23.949 --> 01:46:27.869
has protected the world with their song. Powering.

01:46:27.869 --> 01:46:30.109
Wait, you wrote this. What is it supposed to

01:46:30.109 --> 01:46:32.670
be? Is it powering the Han Moon? Good. What did

01:46:32.670 --> 01:46:35.329
I say the first time? Powered by? Powered by.

01:46:35.649 --> 01:46:42.409
Oh, fuck me. Okay. My bad. You think I could

01:46:42.409 --> 01:46:45.149
read? I'm an English teacher. It's fine. Trying

01:46:45.149 --> 01:46:52.510
to throw me under the bus. I'm sorry. Okay. Now,

01:46:52.649 --> 01:46:54.430
Britt, I'm going back three more words. And every

01:46:54.430 --> 01:46:55.949
time I mess up, it's even further back until

01:46:55.949 --> 01:46:58.350
we start the whole podcast over. Here we go.

01:47:00.229 --> 01:47:04.850
To great enthusiasm from adoration of crowds.

01:47:05.069 --> 01:47:08.930
That's not how you say that at all. Wait, you

01:47:08.930 --> 01:47:13.460
said kill them? Maybe think of Ever's new group.

01:47:13.619 --> 01:47:18.079
I'm going to Tokyo! Absolutely, yes. Sorry, Emma,

01:47:18.119 --> 01:47:22.039
you're at the front seat of our stupidity. No,

01:47:22.079 --> 01:47:26.640
I love this. This is so fun. Our tagline is basically,

01:47:26.840 --> 01:47:29.140
if we entertain you a fraction of the amount

01:47:29.140 --> 01:47:36.420
we entertain ourselves. They continue to connect.

01:47:36.680 --> 01:47:40.020
Oh, no. It sounds like I'm saying Derpy and Sussy

01:47:40.020 --> 01:47:44.189
are the ones connecting. And... Wait. Here we

01:47:44.189 --> 01:47:46.630
go, Brett. One, two, three. Nope, I forget what

01:47:46.630 --> 01:47:49.050
their names are. Genu and Rumi. There it is.

01:47:49.130 --> 01:47:55.569
Here we go. Thank you, Sierra. Okay. And Rumi

01:47:55.569 --> 01:48:01.109
and Genu can... And Rumi... Now I've got the

01:48:01.109 --> 01:48:06.850
giggles. It's okay. I got this. And the Saja

01:48:06.850 --> 01:48:09.310
boys steal the hearts of more and more people,

01:48:09.449 --> 01:48:12.140
which means... Wait, that doesn't make any sense.

01:48:12.300 --> 01:48:15.699
Correct. You wrote this. Yes, it works that time.

01:48:18.220 --> 01:48:22.460
Ridding the world. Nope. Ridding the world and

01:48:22.460 --> 01:48:27.000
Genu of Guima and Rumi. Nope. All right. I see

01:48:27.000 --> 01:48:29.680
the sentence. My bad. Ridding the world of Genu.

01:48:31.420 --> 01:48:37.439
Ridding the world. I didn't realize I'd be nervous

01:48:37.439 --> 01:48:38.960
in front of you, Emma. I'm like, no, there's

01:48:38.960 --> 01:48:43.420
a person here now! Am I the first guest on the

01:48:43.420 --> 01:48:46.279
podcast? First guest that we've cared about,

01:48:46.420 --> 01:48:50.840
certainly. Oh, how kind. Who was the last one?

01:48:51.319 --> 01:48:54.319
Well, we've got my friend Garrett on as an expert,

01:48:54.439 --> 01:48:57.039
and we've got Aurelia who's been on, and of course

01:48:57.039 --> 01:49:00.100
we care about them, right? You're the first,

01:49:00.220 --> 01:49:03.529
like, guest. Got it. We've got an expert and

01:49:03.529 --> 01:49:05.430
we've had the producer on. So you are our first

01:49:05.430 --> 01:49:10.229
guest. Yes, for sure. But yeah, I can mess up

01:49:10.229 --> 01:49:11.729
in front of Garrett and Aurelia, no problem.

01:49:11.970 --> 01:49:15.689
I'm honored. Now I'm like... You can mess up

01:49:15.689 --> 01:49:22.189
in front of me, too. It's okay. Sure. Be professional,

01:49:22.310 --> 01:49:23.970
Sam. I just will never forget it. That's all.

01:49:25.510 --> 01:49:31.029
Okay. All right. Good. Good. All right. Okay.

01:49:31.770 --> 01:49:35.489
Rumi runs to Selene, her stand -in proxy mama,

01:49:35.670 --> 01:49:41.449
and coach. We can take that out because we did

01:49:41.449 --> 01:49:43.069
end up explaining her. Yeah, you're right, you're

01:49:43.069 --> 01:49:45.890
right, you're right. Rumi runs to Selene and

01:49:45.890 --> 01:49:49.909
begs her to - Sorry, the line moved on me right

01:49:49.909 --> 01:49:54.170
then. Okay. I didn't realize you were going to

01:49:54.170 --> 01:49:57.630
delete it. A short time later, when they're all

01:49:57.630 --> 01:50:00.890
wearing glasses to show how time has moved on.

01:50:01.399 --> 01:50:03.420
That's an inside joke from our Stranger Things

01:50:03.420 --> 01:50:06.960
pod, Emma. To show that time has passed. To show

01:50:06.960 --> 01:50:08.720
that time has passed. Emma's wearing glasses

01:50:08.720 --> 01:50:14.500
suddenly! Okay. My K -pop journey is still mostly

01:50:14.500 --> 01:50:18.220
BTS, although I have dabbled in some other groups,

01:50:18.380 --> 01:50:23.340
both of the girl and boy form. But is that a

01:50:23.340 --> 01:50:27.819
weird way to put that? I think it was the transition

01:50:27.819 --> 01:50:32.170
from dabbled... Into, and like the slowdown.

01:50:32.329 --> 01:50:37.789
The girl and boy form. Into both the girl and

01:50:37.789 --> 01:50:42.409
boy forms. Wink. Let me go back, let me go back.

01:50:43.569 --> 01:50:47.130
Quite the huge, oh my god, what is the, what

01:50:47.130 --> 01:50:49.869
am I trying to say? Like, not get the ball rolling,

01:50:50.050 --> 01:50:54.130
but it's been a tidal wave of something. Oh,

01:50:54.130 --> 01:50:57.229
oh, right. Or like snowball effect? Yeah. Thank

01:50:57.229 --> 01:50:59.710
you. Thank you. Thank you. So you're going to

01:50:59.710 --> 01:51:01.510
go on all of our podcasts. You don't have to

01:51:01.510 --> 01:51:03.050
be a guest. You just have to sit there and give

01:51:03.050 --> 01:51:05.750
us what we're trying to say. Okay. It's like

01:51:05.750 --> 01:51:11.210
a producer of words. Yeah. Almost like a writer.

01:51:11.750 --> 01:51:14.010
Yeah, you're going to be a writer. But you're

01:51:14.010 --> 01:51:15.369
just going to Keira Knightley it with signs.

01:51:15.970 --> 01:51:25.579
Yeah. It's carolers again? It's the 18th podcast

01:51:25.579 --> 01:51:30.819
in a row where it's carolers. Oh, man. Pause

01:51:30.819 --> 01:51:33.899
on the podcast as we look stuff up. This is the

01:51:33.899 --> 01:51:36.600
song that I sing when Sierra does the stuff.

01:51:36.699 --> 01:51:38.420
Not at all. This is the first time I've done

01:51:38.420 --> 01:51:43.460
this. I do normally sing random songs. Mainly

01:51:43.460 --> 01:51:46.520
to do with fandoms. I know. Prequel in like...

01:51:47.029 --> 01:51:52.170
Sorry. In, like, how? It was just a really funny

01:51:52.170 --> 01:51:56.109
sound. It sounded like you were a raccoon jumping

01:51:56.109 --> 01:52:02.890
on a trash can lid. Jumping. Sorry. All right,

01:52:02.909 --> 01:52:05.869
Sierra, go for it. You know. Emma, wait. Actually,

01:52:05.909 --> 01:52:08.010
sorry. Sorry, Sierra. I gave you the. Yeah, go

01:52:08.010 --> 01:52:09.470
for it. And then immediately it was like red

01:52:09.470 --> 01:52:14.510
light. Okay. Cool. Go for it, Sierra. Wait! I'm

01:52:14.510 --> 01:52:20.989
kidding, I'm sorry. Keep your horses safe. It's

01:52:20.989 --> 01:52:24.109
the I'm gonna make him an offer he can't refuse

01:52:24.109 --> 01:52:28.750
category of best lines. You've gone, you hit

01:52:28.750 --> 01:52:30.789
it there for a couple of puns. I went too bad.

01:52:31.510 --> 01:52:34.569
You've gone like Batman. I'm gonna make him an

01:52:34.569 --> 01:52:36.029
offer he can't refuse. I know, I can't do it.

01:52:36.069 --> 01:52:39.859
I'm gonna redo it. Okay, here we go. Ready? I

01:52:39.859 --> 01:52:41.380
wanted to make fun of you. It's all in the lip.

01:52:41.420 --> 01:52:44.220
It is. I'm going to make him an F. He can't refuse.

01:52:44.859 --> 01:52:49.739
That was great. Keep it. I mean, it had the tone.

01:52:50.819 --> 01:52:54.460
Thanks. I appreciate your pity. That's what I'm

01:52:54.460 --> 01:52:54.779
here for.