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Welcome to Fandom Shmandom, the fandom podcast

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that covers everything you love and more. I'm

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Sam Williams. And I'm Sierra Obermark. Today's

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episode, we will be tantalizingly tricking our

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tongues into talking treatfully about Stranger

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Things Season 2, Episodes 1 through 4. Without

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further ado, we will, as Roger Smith says, dive

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on in. Get up to 88, because it's time to travel

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back to our story recap. Episode 1! It's exposition

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and introduction time. We open in, you guessed

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it, not Hawkins, Pittsburgh. Focusing on a crime

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in progress. Intro, Callie. Did she just use

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telekinesis? Oh, no. No, she didn't. She messed

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with our mind. And what's that? An eight? Oh,

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yes. But back in Hawkins. It's Halloween now

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and the boys are somewhere back to normal. That's

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not at all that song. Joyce is being understandably

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overprotective, especially considering Will is

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having upside down flashes. Meanwhile, Hoop is

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being accousted by Murray, a conspiracy theorist

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who is honestly so close and yet so far from

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the truth. Nancy is realizing Steve is kind of

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a dum -dum. But still cute, though. And who shows

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up with an excellent intro? A mysterious combo

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of California Yates. Max has arrived. Instantly

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proving that gamer girls are, as we say, the

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best. And who is this? But Sean Astin? Samwise

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Gamgee himself? Who is dating Winona Ryder? Heathers?

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Joyce, we mean? We are here for this. Joyce deserves

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some happiness. Meanwhile, Hoop has been dragged

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out to a pumpkin pooch to see a tune of flues

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and roots. The evil in the Upside Down wants

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to kill everyone else, and turns out you can't

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even trust your psychiatrist. Who would have

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guessed? He's helping to do controlled burns

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on the weird organic gate. Lucas. and now toothful

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Dustin, are crushing hard on Max. Nancy and Steve

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have an uncomfortable dinner with Barb's parents,

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who are giving everything they have to Murray,

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who has promised to find their daughter. Day

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352 of Elle missing, and Mike hasn't given up.

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Jonathan shows he's an excellent brother, and

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he and Will bond over Bob, aka Sean Astin, being

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a little... An adorable, boring guy. Whoop! Gives

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him to find. Who goes? El? El with hair? Episode

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2. Now to find out what happened in the last

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year. Turns out fighting the Demogorgon drew

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El into the Upside Down. A perfectly placed pawprint

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portal shows the way out, and she walks straight

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into a manhunt for her, the dangerous Russian

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spy. Back in the present, Elle wants to go trick

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-or -treating, arguing that, dressed as a ghost,

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the bad men won't see her. Ironic, as the boys

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are all dressed as Ghostbusters. Nancy is having

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a hard time dealing with Barb's death, and Steve

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tries to get her to have fun for once. Lucas

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and Dustin ask Max to trick -or -treat with them.

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How presumptuous of them. Hop is back in the

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pumpkin's conspiracy, but this time with all

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the crops on many farms. Max is getting picked

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up from school by apparently psychotic Billy,

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and each blame the other for being stuck in Hawkins.

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Billy attempts triple homicide, and Max narrowly

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saves the biking trio on their way to meet Will.

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Jonathan goes to the same party Nancy and Steve

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are at, where Billy is reigning keg king, and

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Nancy starts on the punch a little too aggressively.

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Bobula is calming Joyce, who is once again paranoid

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about Will being out of her sight. Hop, too busy

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marking rot, is late again. The boys are trick

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-or -treating with Max, Mike is mad she has joined

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their party, and leaves Will to face another

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vision alone, the giant shadow spider bearing

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down on him. Mike takes Will home. Jonathan has

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arrived at the party in time for drunk Nancy

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to cuss out Steve and admit to not loving him.

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Ouch. Jonathan then brings her home, tucking

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her in. Mike and Will share about the visions

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and seeing Elle around, promising to go crazy

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together. Elle, feeling alone, goes into the

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in -between to see Mike, which she can now do

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with a blindfold and TV static. We end with Dustin

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finding something in the trash can. Episode 3.

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What did he find? Oh, just a cute little blob.

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His name's D 'Artagnan. Please ignore the French

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accent and the Demogorgon -like screech he emits.

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You know what's worse than a moody teenager?

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A moody, telekinetic, semi -communicative teenager,

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Elle. Elle is having a hard time being cooped

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up, and Hoop isn't sure how to keep her safe

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and how to let her out. Bob tells Will a frankly

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horrifying story about a clown named Mr. Baldo

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who hunted his dreams. and how, by standing his

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ground, he was able to make the dreams stop.

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Dustin has been trying to learn about D 'Artagnan,

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and asks the gang to meet up. Elle breaks all

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three dopey stupid rules at once. Nancy can't

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remember essentially breaking up with Steve,

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but don't worry, he reminds her. Meanwhile, the

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kids think Dustin has found a new species, but

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Will thinks Dart is... A little too similar to

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a tadpole he threw up back in season one. Bob

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once again shows his adorable love of Joyce and

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her boys and lets her know that Will is being

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bullied. Joyce goes to look at the tape and sees,

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somehow, the shadow monster Will has been seeing

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and drawing. Meanwhile, the kids pose an interesting

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theory. If something is from the upside down,

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Does that automatically make it evil? Dart escapes

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when Max opens the door. That's what they get

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for keeping her out. During this, we also learn

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that Billy and Max are not siblings. Who but

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knows the souk is not up to snoof. And he's working

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with them under an agreement that he keeps things

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secret. And they keep everything upside down

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-y out of Hawkins. However... Elle has now been

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seen, and now Hoop needs to find her before the

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psych guy catches on. But first, Elle catches

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Mike with Max, incorrectly assuming he has moved

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on and grown those romantic flowers for Max.

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Nancy calls Barb's mom, trying to meet up, and

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the call is overheard. While looking for Dart,

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Will has another encounter with the shadow monster,

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and tries to use Bob's advice. But unfortunately,

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the shadow monster isn't a dream clown, and starts

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to take him over. Episode 4. Here comes Frantic

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Joyce careening into the school, and what do

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we find but Will in the field absorbing the shadows?

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He tells his mom everything, and she makes promises

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reminiscent of Marlin and just as impossible

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to keep. Telekinetic bratty teen strikes again.

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Elle's situation sucks, but Hop just doesn't

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want to see everything he's tried to do for her

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go to waste. The word of the day really is brat.

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Nancy and Jonathan are off to meet Barb's mom

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secretly. Joyce is getting really concerned about

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Will, who is running a low temperature and likes

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his baths cold. Who likes it cold? Nancy and

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Jonathan correctly figure out they are being

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watched and attempt to leave, but are stopped

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by them. Will and the shadow monster are one,

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but the visions are too much to communicate.

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Good thing he's a great artist. Hop and Joyce

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realize all his scribbles connect together. Vines.

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He's drawing vines. Nancy and Jonathan get the

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lowdown on the gate from the psychiatrist and

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learn why they need to shisheth. Those darn rooskies.

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Max is tired of being excluded and Lucas doesn't

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know how to explain without explaining. Billy

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gives off mad racist and abusive vibes, scaring

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Max and us. Elle is cleaning up her mess in the

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cabin and finds a box of Hawkins lab information,

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including a folder on Terry Ives. Cue another

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round of friends don't lie because Hop said her

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mother was gone, but she's still alive, so she's

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not gone. We just know Elle is going to get stuck

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in her craw about that one, even if Hop meant

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her mind is gone. Elle knows she's Jane now.

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Well, and also, turns out Nancy and Jonathan

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had a completely different plan than we thought.

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They got the Sykes' full confession on tape and

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are headed out of town. Sorry, Dustin. But unfortunately,

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Dart isn't so cute when he's munching on Muse.

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Hop and the Rot back together again, and now,

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oops, Hop dug right into the upside down. Excellent.

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But before we get to the nitty gritty schmitty,

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we welcome Oreo to provide us with vital information

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that we need to know. Welcome, Oreo. Give us

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that integral info. Sam and Sierra, do you copy?

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Hello and welcome back, listeners. This is Oreo

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again from the other side of the pond. I am here

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today to talk to you about, you guessed it, another

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book. This one today, in the spirit of Season

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2 and the new character we've just been introduced,

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is all about Max. This book is called Runaway

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Max and is written by Brenna Jovanoff. It takes

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place predominantly in the season two of Stranger

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Things. So which is the canon year of like 1984,

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but also tells a little bit more about Max's

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background. So we sort of see season two throughout

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Max's eye. So like it jumps back and forth in

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the time. We see her impressions of meeting the

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boys and especially like Lucas, but also how,

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you know, She has to face having just moved to

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a new town where she doesn't know anyone and

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trying to make friends and adjusting to a new

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home life with her stepfather and stepbrother

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all the way away from California. So this focuses

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a lot on Max's family. Family is definitely like

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the predominant theme in this book. And we learn

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that her mother and father split when she was

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young. We don't know how old she was, but she

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was definitely young. Her mother stays with Max

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in San Diego. And her father moves to LA. In

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the beginning, Max is allowed to visit her dad

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every two weeks. But then, like, her mom is starting

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to be less and less comfortable with Max spending

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time with her dad. And is trying to limit these

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visits as much as possible. Max is... Max's father

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gets by as a bookie and making fake IDs. And

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this is presumably why her mother doesn't want

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Max to spend so much time with him. But also

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Max is aware that he's probably dealing with

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more shady things as well, which he just doesn't

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talk to her about or shows or allows to her to

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see basically. But he also teaches Max how to

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pick a lock and like their passion, like they

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share to like... hobby is to solve puzzles and

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that sort of stuff. She really likes her dad.

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She has a good relationship with her dad. And

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if it were up to her, she would definitely choose

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to live with her dad. And the book opens with

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her to making a runaway attempt after she's just

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been told by her new stepfather and her mom that

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they're going to move to Hawkins in Yenna. she's

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like nope i'm out and tries to run away from

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san diego to la to stay with her dad but she's

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caught at the bus stop in san diego so unfortunately

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she didn't make it very far so after her parents

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have split up max sort of talks about how her

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mom kept dating different men who she was always

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able to tell they're not the right people for

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her. She sort of says her mom seems to be naive

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because she could always tell this one was gambling,

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this one was cheating. And her mom always seems

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to be very downfallen when she finds out that

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they're not the people who she thought and hoped

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potentially who they were. Max is like commenting

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constantly how her mom seems to be choosing Joanie

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the best and look away for the worst parts of

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people. And it definitely is like a point where

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she almost like loses respect for her mom because

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of that quality. And so it's no surprise that

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when Max's new stepfather, Neil, who cares a

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lot about optics, and we do meet him in the show,

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He wows her mom with like, you know, bringing

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flowers, is not staying over before they're married.

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And it's all about he's like a proper upstanding

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part of society. Everything is, you know, nothing

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to see here. Everything's perfect. Nothing shady

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ever going on here. But even so, the first time

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that... Neil punishes his son in front of Max

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in her mom's eye, which is still in San Diego,

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and he takes the belt to Billy. Max is sure that

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her mom knew about the type of discipline, because

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she thinks her mother would have otherwise reacted

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stronger, so she is certain that deep down her

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mother knew that Neil was a violent person. Unsurprisingly,

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Billy is chaotic and a little bit psychotic.

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He was obviously raised in this household with

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an unloving father. And while Max, when they

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initially are introduced to each other, thinks,

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oh my God, it's so cool. I'm going to have an

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older, cooler brother who has a car. She very

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quickly learns that he's unpredictable and willing

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to cross boundaries just to make a point. While

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they seem to go back and forth between moments

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where they almost seem like bonding as siblings,

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then there are very quickly moments again where

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she has to accept that she cannot trust Billy,

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that Billy is doing whatever Billy wants to do.

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So why does the family think to move to Hawkins

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of all places? It must be the famous I don't

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know. Laboratory? Upside down? We don't know.

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Now we do know the reason that they're moving.

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So basically Max has three childhood friends

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while she lives in San Diego. Three boys she

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gets along with. They skate together and they

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build ramps and have a fun time in California.

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However, as As I've already mentioned, Billy,

00:16:43.799 --> 00:16:51.120
to prove a point really, to Max, deliberately

00:16:51.120 --> 00:16:56.240
breaks one of her friend's arms. He just does

00:16:56.240 --> 00:16:58.740
it. There's no accident or anything. He just

00:16:58.740 --> 00:17:02.779
goes and snaps one of her friend's arms. Unsurprisingly,

00:17:02.980 --> 00:17:06.539
Max loses that friendship entirely, so she is

00:17:06.539 --> 00:17:10.319
friendless. But also, because an ambulance has

00:17:10.319 --> 00:17:14.920
to come, There's no denying Billy did this. This

00:17:14.920 --> 00:17:17.440
wasn't an accident, even though Max is smart

00:17:17.440 --> 00:17:20.519
enough not to outright say it. Her mom and her

00:17:20.519 --> 00:17:23.339
stepfather work out that this is Billy's fault,

00:17:23.440 --> 00:17:26.880
and this is why they decide, you know what, we

00:17:26.880 --> 00:17:29.900
need a fresh start for, you know, in the hope

00:17:29.900 --> 00:17:33.480
that Billy and Max will have a better time if

00:17:33.480 --> 00:17:36.619
they're far away from this incident. However,

00:17:36.880 --> 00:17:41.039
Billy blames Max. Billy's like, look. I have

00:17:41.039 --> 00:17:46.259
the coolest car here in San Diego. I can have

00:17:46.259 --> 00:17:48.299
all the girls and the parties and all of that

00:17:48.299 --> 00:17:51.160
sort of stuff. And now you condemned me to a

00:17:51.160 --> 00:17:54.420
life in Hawkins, Indiana, where nothing of this

00:17:54.420 --> 00:17:59.220
is happening. So this sort of further estranges

00:17:59.220 --> 00:18:03.299
the relationship between Max and Billy, but also

00:18:03.299 --> 00:18:07.819
because Hawkins is Hawkins and their parents

00:18:07.819 --> 00:18:09.740
are like... under the impression if they just

00:18:09.740 --> 00:18:13.680
make billy chauffeur max everywhere they're just

00:18:13.680 --> 00:18:16.359
gonna get along uh we see how that goes in the

00:18:16.359 --> 00:18:20.380
show another thing that we learn about at neil

00:18:20.380 --> 00:18:22.980
and billy which is something we can see in the

00:18:22.980 --> 00:18:25.880
show as well um but it's maybe a point a little

00:18:25.880 --> 00:18:29.319
bit more out in the book um is that uh they're

00:18:29.319 --> 00:18:32.859
implied to be racists you know billy's like telling

00:18:32.859 --> 00:18:37.559
max off for spending time with lucas so he uh

00:18:38.170 --> 00:18:41.170
In the book, because we get Max's thoughts of

00:18:41.170 --> 00:18:43.329
it, we definitely get sort of confirmation of,

00:18:43.369 --> 00:18:47.109
yeah, it's because he's black. And this is not,

00:18:47.170 --> 00:18:50.349
you know, in the world where Neil wants to be

00:18:50.349 --> 00:18:52.690
seen as proper and upstanding and everything.

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He doesn't want to mingle with those type of

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people. We also see Max try to run away again

00:19:02.089 --> 00:19:07.299
in this book. She recognizes that... this is

00:19:07.299 --> 00:19:10.440
all not going in her favor, that Billy is going

00:19:10.440 --> 00:19:15.599
to become even more of a problem. And she almost

00:19:15.599 --> 00:19:19.000
runs away again from Hawkins to LA this time.

00:19:19.099 --> 00:19:22.819
So destination, the same destination. However,

00:19:23.019 --> 00:19:25.900
just as she's getting ready, she has her backpack

00:19:25.900 --> 00:19:28.660
packed, she has a plan, she's got the parents

00:19:28.660 --> 00:19:34.299
out of the way. Lucas comes by and says he has

00:19:34.299 --> 00:19:37.119
proof. of all the things that he's been talking

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to her about. And in the end, she chooses to

00:19:39.680 --> 00:19:43.440
go with Lucas to learn about said truth. And

00:19:43.440 --> 00:19:46.079
we then see, obviously, that whole scene where

00:19:46.079 --> 00:19:49.279
she meets Steve and they're getting ready for

00:19:49.279 --> 00:19:52.920
the demo dogs. And then I'll leave you with this

00:19:52.920 --> 00:19:56.640
final tidbit here. We also learned that Max loves

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horror movies. It's one of the things that...

00:20:00.809 --> 00:20:03.569
why she's choosing to scare the boys when they're

00:20:03.569 --> 00:20:06.849
going out trick -and -treating, and why she's

00:20:06.849 --> 00:20:10.430
picking a Michael Myers mask as her costume.

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So yes, a very, very cool little insight into

00:20:14.789 --> 00:20:17.470
this new character that we're meeting for this

00:20:17.470 --> 00:20:23.829
season. And I can definitely say Max has been

00:20:23.829 --> 00:20:27.150
one of my favorite characters to add to the show.

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I hope this little insight into her is useful

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for you all. Over and out. Thank you so much,

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Oreo. That was much needed prep for the rest

00:20:49.019 --> 00:20:53.430
of this episode. Yes. Find your donut holes.

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It is time for our Knives Out category, where

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we sooth out which three storylines are the most

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vital to pay attention to. Number one, Hop and

00:21:04.789 --> 00:21:08.470
the Rot. It's a good band name, gotta say. Number

00:21:08.470 --> 00:21:12.190
two, Dustin and D 'Artagnan. Also another good

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band name. Potentially also a buddy cop movie.

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And number three, Will and the Shadow Monster.

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This sounds like a kid's book about helping kids

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with nightmares. It really does. Okay, first

00:21:25.430 --> 00:21:28.789
storyline, Hop and the Rot. First of all, good

00:21:28.789 --> 00:21:30.910
names had by all. Hop and the Rot is my favorite.

00:21:31.029 --> 00:21:35.269
It's excellent. Now, there is Rot in the pumpkin

00:21:35.269 --> 00:21:38.529
patch that brings Hopper out. And he's sort of

00:21:38.529 --> 00:21:42.460
immediately suspicious. Uh, he gets really spooked

00:21:42.460 --> 00:21:45.019
in the field with movement. There's this sort

00:21:45.019 --> 00:21:47.220
of feeling he gets, but he doesn't, like, kind

00:21:47.220 --> 00:21:49.559
of go immediately into investigating it, but

00:21:49.559 --> 00:21:51.579
you can kind of see it's raised his hackles.

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Um, then later, we've got rotting pumpkins delivered

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to the police station, and rival farmers blaming

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each other for the rot. This time... Hop goes

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to the other farm. He investigates. He finds

00:22:05.690 --> 00:22:08.529
the sticky substance on the tree. He sees all

00:22:08.529 --> 00:22:10.690
these little bugs on everything, and he's kind

00:22:10.690 --> 00:22:14.069
of like, okay. Alright, so then they mark how

00:22:14.069 --> 00:22:17.089
deep the rot goes, and that takes a very long

00:22:17.089 --> 00:22:20.369
time, but it's okay, because Hop can pay a random

00:22:20.369 --> 00:22:22.809
kid five bucks for farmer's candy, which is just

00:22:22.809 --> 00:22:26.880
wild. It's just... Wild. Okay, so, Hop realizes

00:22:26.880 --> 00:22:29.140
the gook, because he does, like, the Charlie

00:22:29.140 --> 00:22:31.880
Day thing, except with a sharpie, where he's

00:22:31.880 --> 00:22:34.900
like, wait, look, the outside ring, and then

00:22:34.900 --> 00:22:37.299
the middle ring, and the inside ring, and they

00:22:37.299 --> 00:22:40.380
all center in on, you guessed it, Hawkins Lab.

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And, uh, Dr. Sam Owens does exactly what you

00:22:45.660 --> 00:22:50.759
think he'd do. Deny, deny, deny, deny, but, with

00:22:50.759 --> 00:22:53.259
a little help from Will, who's now channeling

00:22:53.259 --> 00:22:56.099
an even shadow beast inside of him, he and Joyce

00:22:56.099 --> 00:22:58.660
figure out that those vines are actually, and

00:22:58.660 --> 00:23:01.039
the rot, are coming from these vines, which is

00:23:01.039 --> 00:23:02.660
from the Upside Down, which then Hop is like,

00:23:02.720 --> 00:23:04.980
dig, dig, dig, I'm now in the Upside Down again.

00:23:05.519 --> 00:23:09.900
Oops. Oops. We dig, dig, dig, dig, dig, dig.

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No. So, our second storyline - Was that a Lion

00:23:14.420 --> 00:23:17.759
King one and a half reference? It was not. Okay,

00:23:17.819 --> 00:23:22.200
good. It was a Snow White reference. Okay, so

00:23:22.200 --> 00:23:29.000
same flavor. So in the first two episodes, it's

00:23:29.000 --> 00:23:32.160
more of a, the second storyline is more Mike

00:23:32.160 --> 00:23:36.440
versus Max. But then when you get into episode

00:23:36.440 --> 00:23:39.440
three and four, they really get overshadowed

00:23:39.440 --> 00:23:43.079
by Dustin trapping Dart, bringing him to the

00:23:43.079 --> 00:23:46.660
school, having everybody figure out. What's going

00:23:46.660 --> 00:23:50.279
on with him? What is Dart? All of those details.

00:23:51.519 --> 00:23:54.900
Dustin, unfortunately, lies to his mother, signs

00:23:54.900 --> 00:24:00.240
his cat's death warrant, and feeds Dart three

00:24:00.240 --> 00:24:03.900
Musketeers bars, and realizes that Dart hates

00:24:03.900 --> 00:24:07.660
light. Always a good sign. Yes, always a great

00:24:07.660 --> 00:24:10.240
sign when something that is supposed to be cold

00:24:10.240 --> 00:24:14.789
-blooded and like light doesn't like light. Going

00:24:14.789 --> 00:24:17.930
against biology is always an excellent sign when

00:24:17.930 --> 00:24:21.869
you find a mysterious creature. So Dustin eats

00:24:21.869 --> 00:24:25.150
candy, reads about reptiles, falls asleep in

00:24:25.150 --> 00:24:28.730
his stume, and misses Dart crying out like a

00:24:28.730 --> 00:24:32.849
very clear Demogorgon. Dustin steals books from

00:24:32.849 --> 00:24:37.029
the library. Not a great look, but he thinks

00:24:37.029 --> 00:24:39.569
he's found a new species, so we're going to kind

00:24:39.569 --> 00:24:44.799
of excuse his devious behavior. automatically

00:24:44.799 --> 00:24:48.940
suspicious and mike is very willing to be on

00:24:48.940 --> 00:24:51.920
will's side since lucas and dustin have kind

00:24:51.920 --> 00:24:55.000
of ditched them because they love max so much

00:24:55.000 --> 00:24:58.900
and will is convinced that dart is an upside

00:24:58.900 --> 00:25:03.740
down creature uh go will way to be right on the

00:25:03.740 --> 00:25:08.480
money on that one in all honesty Yes, and their

00:25:08.480 --> 00:25:13.640
exclusion of Max has some pretty terrible consequences

00:25:13.640 --> 00:25:16.299
because she just really wants to know what's

00:25:16.299 --> 00:25:18.460
going on and wants to get into that room. And

00:25:18.460 --> 00:25:21.940
unfortunately, Dart knows when to dart. And so

00:25:21.940 --> 00:25:26.319
she opens the door and out he goes. The good

00:25:26.319 --> 00:25:28.940
thing is that they do find Dart. They put him

00:25:28.940 --> 00:25:32.500
back into Dustin's house, clearly the best place

00:25:32.500 --> 00:25:35.680
to keep an unknown creature. He grows really

00:25:35.680 --> 00:25:38.980
big. And then he eats Muse. Cue the overmark.

00:25:39.539 --> 00:25:42.640
Dun, dun, dun. Sorry, R .I .P. Muse. R .I .P.

00:25:42.660 --> 00:25:46.059
Muse. And then, unfortunately, that also R .I

00:25:46.059 --> 00:25:49.779
.P.'s our love for Dart, the adorable booger

00:25:49.779 --> 00:25:57.160
monster. Dart, the adorable booger monster. It's

00:25:57.160 --> 00:26:03.660
so funny. Oh, yeah, it does end our love for

00:26:03.660 --> 00:26:06.009
Dart. And unfortunately, and Dustin's love for

00:26:06.009 --> 00:26:10.609
Dart. And also, poor Muse. I'm so sad. Every

00:26:10.609 --> 00:26:14.829
time I see it, I'm like, ugh, I hate this. Horrible.

00:26:15.029 --> 00:26:18.630
Okay, so our third storyline is Will and the

00:26:18.630 --> 00:26:22.150
Shadow Monster. So Will keeps flashing back to

00:26:22.150 --> 00:26:23.670
the Upside Down, something that we saw in Season

00:26:23.670 --> 00:26:26.890
1. He's seeing a psychiatrist, Dr. Sam Owens,

00:26:26.990 --> 00:26:29.269
who's in the exact same position as Dr. Brenner,

00:26:29.329 --> 00:26:32.829
and clearly is a good guy. with good intentions,

00:26:32.890 --> 00:26:37.150
and is constant gesturing during, and pointing,

00:26:37.190 --> 00:26:39.029
and being like, what's your favorite candy, and

00:26:39.029 --> 00:26:41.190
all that sort of stuff, is not at all just small

00:26:41.190 --> 00:26:44.250
talk, and is the evil sinister mindset of a villain.

00:26:44.829 --> 00:26:51.430
So, he goes to the arcade, flashes, we see the

00:26:51.430 --> 00:26:53.470
little shadow monster vibes in the background.

00:26:54.009 --> 00:26:59.690
Now, this new Brenner psychiatrist, Dr. Sam person,

00:27:00.440 --> 00:27:02.579
believes that Will will only get worse because

00:27:02.579 --> 00:27:06.740
of something called the anniversary effect. Now,

00:27:06.759 --> 00:27:09.460
during this time, it's Halloween, which means

00:27:09.460 --> 00:27:11.559
that everybody's dressed up in very cute Ghostbusters

00:27:11.559 --> 00:27:14.559
costumes. Will looks adorable because he's still

00:27:14.559 --> 00:27:17.599
the smallest of everybody as well. And then Jonathan,

00:27:17.819 --> 00:27:22.480
due to his own moral failings, goes to a high

00:27:22.480 --> 00:27:25.720
school party, abandoning his brother to the behests

00:27:25.720 --> 00:27:28.240
of, well, he doesn't know the spider monster.

00:27:28.700 --> 00:27:31.839
But we all know the spider shadow monster. So,

00:27:31.940 --> 00:27:34.880
interestingly enough, real quick here. We talked

00:27:34.880 --> 00:27:36.700
last season, Sierra, about, like, what happened

00:27:36.700 --> 00:27:40.839
to Steve's best friends. Yes. Billy's biggest

00:27:40.839 --> 00:27:44.160
hype man at this party is that awful dude. I

00:27:44.160 --> 00:27:48.220
know. And I hate it. And also, there's a trio

00:27:48.220 --> 00:27:51.900
of women that, like, ogle Billy when he first

00:27:51.900 --> 00:27:55.200
comes in. The one on the very right, stage left

00:27:55.200 --> 00:27:58.730
or right, is... His girlfriend. Is the girl.

00:27:58.849 --> 00:28:01.809
Yeah. So they're there. I thought they'd completely

00:28:01.809 --> 00:28:04.410
been scrapped, but they're there. No, they're

00:28:04.410 --> 00:28:06.190
there, and I'm very upset about it. Yeah, me

00:28:06.190 --> 00:28:09.390
too. They stink. I wish whatever his name was.

00:28:09.509 --> 00:28:13.150
Was it Hobbs? Calvin? No. Troy! I wish Troy was

00:28:13.150 --> 00:28:15.750
doing the secret serial killer thing. Like we

00:28:15.750 --> 00:28:17.950
said for our headcanon. Now he disappeared. Yeah,

00:28:17.950 --> 00:28:21.630
he does. Now, okay, so Jonathan goes to this

00:28:21.630 --> 00:28:24.490
high school party, everybody. Will gets bullied.

00:28:25.049 --> 00:28:27.690
The sort of group of Ghostbusters isn't really

00:28:27.690 --> 00:28:29.829
paying attention to him, because Mike's so hurt

00:28:29.829 --> 00:28:32.170
about Max being there, and Lucas and Dustin are

00:28:32.170 --> 00:28:35.789
like, ooh, Max is here! And so Will falls over

00:28:35.789 --> 00:28:37.910
and has a flash, where the Mind Flayer emerges

00:28:37.910 --> 00:28:39.710
and searches for him, and he goes and hides.

00:28:39.829 --> 00:28:45.509
Now, Bob, Bobula, Bobletonian, Bobbleboo, he

00:28:45.509 --> 00:28:50.049
gives Willibub a nice little pep talk, as we

00:28:50.049 --> 00:28:55.059
described in our recap. But his advice goes super

00:28:55.059 --> 00:28:59.640
poorly. Like, as poorly as it can go. So, essentially,

00:28:59.799 --> 00:29:03.579
he says, go out and tell him to go away. Go tell

00:29:03.579 --> 00:29:05.420
your monster figure in your nightmares to go

00:29:05.420 --> 00:29:08.200
away. Which is great advice, if the monster is.

00:29:08.279 --> 00:29:11.180
If it's not a real thing. Not real. But it is

00:29:11.180 --> 00:29:13.380
real. And it takes over Will, and then suddenly

00:29:13.380 --> 00:29:16.259
we've got creepy Will, who, like, does have some

00:29:16.259 --> 00:29:18.730
ability to, like. Alright, so I'm connected to

00:29:18.730 --> 00:29:20.150
this monster. I can spy inside this monster.

00:29:20.230 --> 00:29:21.869
I can tell you all about the vines. But then

00:29:21.869 --> 00:29:24.250
he's also, like, looking at his mother and being

00:29:24.250 --> 00:29:27.230
like, lower the temperature of the bath. What?

00:29:27.710 --> 00:29:31.849
Lower the temperature of the bath? He likes it

00:29:31.849 --> 00:29:36.250
cold. So there's a little bit of, um, not so

00:29:36.250 --> 00:29:37.910
good, not so great. Little column A, little column

00:29:37.910 --> 00:29:41.549
B going on with William at the moment. And those

00:29:41.549 --> 00:29:45.349
are our three storylines. So, Sierra, keep your

00:29:45.349 --> 00:29:47.519
finger on the pause button. And rewind that tape.

00:29:47.599 --> 00:29:50.140
It's time for us to go through the prestige category

00:29:50.140 --> 00:29:52.640
for what do we notice on this watch through?

00:29:53.059 --> 00:29:55.380
I don't know why I wrote down Keith in all caps.

00:29:56.079 --> 00:29:58.660
He's the arcade manager. I feel like he's in

00:29:58.660 --> 00:30:03.220
every little fandom thing during this era. Yes,

00:30:03.420 --> 00:30:08.819
I was. I did. Well, I did notice that he is always

00:30:08.819 --> 00:30:14.150
like. The guy at the counter or behind, I'm pretty

00:30:14.150 --> 00:30:16.690
sure there, there's a supernatural episode where

00:30:16.690 --> 00:30:19.849
they go to like a, I think it's the clown, like

00:30:19.849 --> 00:30:22.109
a clown episode where they go just like some

00:30:22.109 --> 00:30:24.970
kids, basically a Chuck E. Cheese. And I'm pretty

00:30:24.970 --> 00:30:27.329
sure he's like behind the counter. Yeah, of course.

00:30:27.630 --> 00:30:33.809
And so he's, he's like the arcade kids, uh, location.

00:30:34.960 --> 00:30:39.319
um he works roller coasters in something like

00:30:39.319 --> 00:30:42.960
he's always like that guy he's an excellent weird

00:30:42.960 --> 00:30:45.559
little addition to and i don't mean that he's

00:30:45.559 --> 00:30:47.539
his addition is weird i just mean his character

00:30:47.539 --> 00:30:49.579
is like this awesome weird little addition to

00:30:49.579 --> 00:30:53.160
the neil patrick harris very famous lemony snicket

00:30:53.160 --> 00:30:55.819
books which their names are escaping me series

00:30:55.819 --> 00:30:57.700
of unfortunate yes he's in a series of unfortunate

00:30:57.700 --> 00:30:59.660
events is one of the villains and i really love

00:30:59.660 --> 00:31:02.480
him in that but anyways he's keith in this uh

00:31:02.480 --> 00:31:05.400
which is fun I also think that this is a super

00:31:05.400 --> 00:31:07.819
fun way to introduce how cool Max is going to

00:31:07.819 --> 00:31:11.200
be and how well Max is going to fit in with this

00:31:11.200 --> 00:31:16.000
party. Because we don't see her. We find her

00:31:16.000 --> 00:31:19.079
reputation through her gamer tag, Mad Max, on

00:31:19.079 --> 00:31:21.319
the arcade where she's busted something that

00:31:21.319 --> 00:31:25.319
Dustin, I believe Dustin, is like king of. So

00:31:25.319 --> 00:31:27.200
that's really cool. I really, really like that.

00:31:27.200 --> 00:31:30.710
Dig dug. Dig Dug, yes. And also the intro, my

00:31:30.710 --> 00:31:33.109
favorite character of the series. Like, Max is

00:31:33.109 --> 00:31:36.089
by far my favorite character. She's pretty great.

00:31:36.470 --> 00:31:40.430
Do you have a fave? Yeah. You know, it kind of

00:31:40.430 --> 00:31:45.369
bounces around. Is it Hoop? I do really enjoy

00:31:45.369 --> 00:31:51.250
Hopper. I think probably Hopper and honestly

00:31:51.250 --> 00:31:54.049
Steve once we start getting more into season

00:31:54.049 --> 00:32:00.720
three and beyond. At season two stage, I don't,

00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:04.059
I think it's still firmly in the Hopper category.

00:32:05.259 --> 00:32:10.599
But yeah, TBD, I guess I'll have to revisit after

00:32:10.599 --> 00:32:14.519
the whole thing is over and evaluate. Yeah, certainly.

00:32:14.640 --> 00:32:17.579
Also, little shout out to Eddie, because I also

00:32:17.579 --> 00:32:20.880
love him. I'm excited to get to Eddie. This is

00:32:20.880 --> 00:32:25.299
true. Yes. I also very much enjoy. A lot of the

00:32:25.299 --> 00:32:28.420
characters starting in season three. Yeah. So

00:32:28.420 --> 00:32:31.279
we'll get there. I mean, Erica season three is

00:32:31.279 --> 00:32:34.279
great. But Murray is also fantastic. Yes. That's

00:32:34.279 --> 00:32:36.819
so true. It cracks me up. But we're in season

00:32:36.819 --> 00:32:38.940
two. So we're going to keep going through this.

00:32:39.299 --> 00:32:43.019
We're in episode one of season two. Okay. I don't

00:32:43.019 --> 00:32:46.200
really understand Will's ability to flash and

00:32:46.200 --> 00:32:49.119
live in the physical upside down. Like, it's

00:32:49.119 --> 00:32:52.640
as if he's really there sometimes. Right. And

00:32:52.640 --> 00:32:56.230
I like... Is he just, like, sort of doing the

00:32:56.230 --> 00:32:58.130
thing where he's standing and everything's just

00:32:58.130 --> 00:32:59.950
still and no one can talk to him while that's

00:32:59.950 --> 00:33:04.349
happening? Like, is he, like, projecting himself

00:33:04.349 --> 00:33:06.529
there and can manipulate things that way? Is

00:33:06.529 --> 00:33:08.529
that a power of his? Or is he actually physically

00:33:08.529 --> 00:33:11.349
moving there and then his body disappears? But

00:33:11.349 --> 00:33:13.150
then, no, that can't be the case because when

00:33:13.150 --> 00:33:16.630
he gets, you know, messed up by the shadow monster,

00:33:16.869 --> 00:33:19.390
he's physically there. So I don't... Is this,

00:33:19.390 --> 00:33:23.369
like, a cool superpower of his? Mm -hmm. And

00:33:23.369 --> 00:33:27.369
also on Halloween, when Mike comes to, although

00:33:27.369 --> 00:33:30.029
when Mike comes to find him on Halloween, he

00:33:30.029 --> 00:33:34.190
says you were gone. Yeah. And so there is kind

00:33:34.190 --> 00:33:37.789
of an inconsistency because in the Halloween

00:33:37.789 --> 00:33:40.210
moment, it seems like Will actually disappears

00:33:40.210 --> 00:33:45.410
and then reappears. Yeah. Whereas when they're

00:33:45.410 --> 00:33:47.990
looking for Dart and the shadow monster actually

00:33:47.990 --> 00:33:52.480
approaches Will, then he's. still physically

00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:56.640
in hawkins not in the upside down even though

00:33:56.640 --> 00:33:59.660
he's mentally in the upside down so not sure

00:33:59.660 --> 00:34:03.980
if maybe it's just because will in the um because

00:34:03.980 --> 00:34:07.680
also in the when he sees the flash in the arcade

00:34:07.680 --> 00:34:11.340
he goes outside and they just find him standing

00:34:11.340 --> 00:34:14.480
outside so i don't think he's actually leaving

00:34:14.480 --> 00:34:17.679
yeah i think it's it's definitely more of a mental

00:34:17.679 --> 00:34:23.679
thing um paralleling what L can do, but. But

00:34:23.679 --> 00:34:26.340
more directly. It definitely seems. Yeah, exactly.

00:34:26.940 --> 00:34:30.159
But it's very odd. It is interesting in terms

00:34:30.159 --> 00:34:33.539
of a season five prep to think about like, all

00:34:33.539 --> 00:34:36.539
right, so is, can Will project himself, go and

00:34:36.539 --> 00:34:39.280
see what's happening in the upside down with

00:34:39.280 --> 00:34:42.360
some semblance of control versus like. what's

00:34:42.360 --> 00:34:43.960
happening here is that just because the gates

00:34:43.960 --> 00:34:46.300
open and he's been in the upside down etc etc

00:34:46.300 --> 00:34:48.920
so interesting all interesting things to think

00:34:48.920 --> 00:34:50.880
about it also might be that during halloween

00:34:50.880 --> 00:34:52.960
when mike says you were gone it meant like oh

00:34:52.960 --> 00:34:56.760
you left us not yeah you were physically disappeared

00:34:56.760 --> 00:35:02.079
so missing yeah all right yeah and then uh we

00:35:02.079 --> 00:35:04.980
also start getting more of a focus on dustin

00:35:04.980 --> 00:35:09.079
and lucas rather than mike good which i'm fine

00:35:09.079 --> 00:35:11.679
with so fine um So good with it. Totally fine

00:35:11.679 --> 00:35:14.199
with that. I would love to explore more about

00:35:14.199 --> 00:35:16.539
Dustin and Lucas's characters, and we're going

00:35:16.539 --> 00:35:20.679
to. So. Yes. Fan. Good. Yes. Fan of that situation.

00:35:21.000 --> 00:35:22.840
Speaking of characters. Another thing that I'm

00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:26.559
a fan of. Murray. Murray's in here for two seconds.

00:35:26.920 --> 00:35:31.699
He's such a fabulous. So I. His character, I

00:35:31.699 --> 00:35:34.440
feel like, really changes in season three and

00:35:34.440 --> 00:35:38.079
season four. Because this sort of more three

00:35:38.079 --> 00:35:42.300
-dimensional character that comes out in, like,

00:35:42.320 --> 00:35:45.480
I'm this hardened ex -journalist who's going

00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:47.440
to be investigating and doing all this stuff.

00:35:47.480 --> 00:35:51.210
I find, like... really fascinating and he he

00:35:51.210 --> 00:35:53.349
morphs into more of a comic relief character

00:35:53.349 --> 00:35:55.329
which he's so good at doing the actor's just

00:35:55.329 --> 00:35:59.090
fabulous uh but it is interesting to see him

00:35:59.090 --> 00:36:03.289
be so serious and not at all comedic yet versus

00:36:03.289 --> 00:36:05.610
what we get when we actually get up to chicago

00:36:05.610 --> 00:36:09.750
so yeah in in like two episodes in one episode

00:36:09.750 --> 00:36:14.289
after we're done with all this yeah yeah he he

00:36:14.289 --> 00:36:16.409
ends up being very fun also he's super close

00:36:16.409 --> 00:36:18.840
like you were saying in the in the Mm -hmm. Recap.

00:36:18.940 --> 00:36:21.840
He's like, not that far off. So close. Y 'all

00:36:21.840 --> 00:36:23.179
should go back and listen to what he's saying.

00:36:23.300 --> 00:36:25.059
And you're just like, oh, hey man, you're like,

00:36:25.099 --> 00:36:27.559
you just need to be a little crazier, actually.

00:36:28.139 --> 00:36:30.579
Mm -hmm. Yeah, you're like, you're crazy and

00:36:30.579 --> 00:36:33.400
a conspiracy theorist, but you're just not quite

00:36:33.400 --> 00:36:36.039
at the level of reality. Yeah, yeah, totally.

00:36:36.079 --> 00:36:39.239
Which is wild. Okay, I've got a question for

00:36:39.239 --> 00:36:43.840
you. Mm. I belabored this in the finale. I belabored

00:36:43.840 --> 00:36:47.400
this in two episodes ago. Mm -hmm. Why is Nancy,

00:36:48.130 --> 00:36:53.369
still with steve the same reasons that i gave

00:36:53.369 --> 00:36:56.150
in the last one but now she knows she doesn't

00:36:56.150 --> 00:37:00.070
love him drunk nancy knows she doesn't love him

00:37:00.070 --> 00:37:03.809
sober nancy is still denying it all right all

00:37:03.809 --> 00:37:08.909
right fine fine yeah sorry um but i do uh have

00:37:08.909 --> 00:37:11.750
a gripe which is that billy's hair is horrible

00:37:13.869 --> 00:37:16.210
And I'm convinced that they consistently make

00:37:16.210 --> 00:37:18.590
him shirtless just so that we aren't so distracted

00:37:18.590 --> 00:37:21.590
by the terrible hair. Okay, I'm going to say

00:37:21.590 --> 00:37:25.389
this with all the caveats possible. That hairstyle,

00:37:25.750 --> 00:37:28.809
I would not wear. That hairstyle, I would not

00:37:28.809 --> 00:37:32.369
recommend for anybody. And yet, it's iconic for

00:37:32.369 --> 00:37:36.070
the era, as is his little stupid mustache. He's

00:37:36.070 --> 00:37:39.969
17, 18, somewhere around there. And that hair

00:37:39.969 --> 00:37:44.809
is... amazing absolutely amazing for the show

00:37:44.809 --> 00:37:52.289
it's so good also what a car yes he drives the

00:37:52.289 --> 00:37:55.309
car is great a 1978 chevy camaro and this is

00:37:55.309 --> 00:37:58.389
like it's a z28 for anybody who's an actual car

00:37:58.389 --> 00:38:01.710
fan but this is right when uh the american like

00:38:01.710 --> 00:38:04.639
fuel regulations have been in for a while since

00:38:04.639 --> 00:38:07.260
the 70s so we had like you had all these huge

00:38:07.260 --> 00:38:11.119
way too fuel consumption mega v8s and like the

00:38:11.119 --> 00:38:14.119
mustangs and the camaros and the challenger for

00:38:14.119 --> 00:38:16.199
a second those like very american sports cars

00:38:16.199 --> 00:38:20.340
and then uh the regulations come in 1970 and

00:38:20.340 --> 00:38:22.980
they get very not powerful and then but finally

00:38:22.980 --> 00:38:25.739
because we have regulation They have to be fuel

00:38:25.739 --> 00:38:28.019
efficient, but they also want tons of power for

00:38:28.019 --> 00:38:30.579
the consumer. So they hit this sweet spot where

00:38:30.579 --> 00:38:33.840
the Chevy Camaro is starting, is in an era where

00:38:33.840 --> 00:38:35.420
they're starting to get real powerful. And that's

00:38:35.420 --> 00:38:37.320
why the engine sounds so glorious. Although I'm

00:38:37.320 --> 00:38:39.659
not sure it's the right sound for that car. But

00:38:39.659 --> 00:38:41.500
that would take a lot more research than I'm

00:38:41.500 --> 00:38:45.699
willing to do. It's pretty great, though. And

00:38:45.699 --> 00:38:48.300
what else is great is Bob and Joyce's relationship.

00:38:48.800 --> 00:38:52.079
It's just so cute. It's really adorable. They're

00:38:52.079 --> 00:38:56.599
just... It's so adorable. Joyce deserves a guy

00:38:56.599 --> 00:39:01.440
just like a nice guy who's just there for her

00:39:01.440 --> 00:39:05.639
and sweet and isn't awful like her ex -husband

00:39:05.639 --> 00:39:09.559
and isn't flighty and is going to stick around

00:39:09.559 --> 00:39:14.039
and cares about her and her sons and is willing

00:39:14.039 --> 00:39:17.840
to take on the potential craziness of whatever's

00:39:17.840 --> 00:39:23.090
going on with Will. It's just so cute. His woe

00:39:23.090 --> 00:39:25.909
Nellie speech, which is not this episode, is

00:39:25.909 --> 00:39:28.650
a little bit later, about like, what if we just

00:39:28.650 --> 00:39:30.969
move to Maine? I know, woe Nellie, like, this

00:39:30.969 --> 00:39:33.650
is too much, too fast, too quick. We've only

00:39:33.650 --> 00:39:36.070
been dating for two months. But I'm like, man,

00:39:36.130 --> 00:39:38.570
this man really just wants to take care of her

00:39:38.570 --> 00:39:41.510
and can see how harmed she is. He sees her in

00:39:41.510 --> 00:39:44.130
a way that even at this point, Hop does not.

00:39:44.550 --> 00:39:48.329
Yeah, exactly. That's why I love him. Speaking

00:39:48.329 --> 00:39:51.019
of relationships. Not to belabor the point again,

00:39:51.260 --> 00:39:54.320
but I asked you this question earlier this episode.

00:39:54.480 --> 00:39:57.900
I asked you this question last episode and the

00:39:57.900 --> 00:40:00.760
episode before. I'll phrase it in a different

00:40:00.760 --> 00:40:05.679
way. Nancy Sierra is clearly more interested

00:40:05.679 --> 00:40:09.099
in Jonathan than Steve. This is, if you remember

00:40:09.099 --> 00:40:11.400
back to the very famous Amy Sherman Palladino

00:40:11.400 --> 00:40:15.400
show, Gilmore Girls. This is a classic Dean versus

00:40:15.400 --> 00:40:19.400
Jess sitch. I know she's with beautiful Steve,

00:40:19.500 --> 00:40:22.239
but Jonathan is just so much more her intellectual

00:40:22.239 --> 00:40:26.480
equivalent. Yeah. Yeah, that's definitely true.

00:40:27.460 --> 00:40:30.119
Another question, though. How is KFC not just

00:40:30.119 --> 00:40:32.519
taking Steve saying it's finger licking good

00:40:32.519 --> 00:40:34.780
at Barb's parents and just made that their commercial

00:40:34.780 --> 00:40:38.659
every Halloween? I don't, I don't get it. It's

00:40:38.659 --> 00:40:41.699
perfect. It's perfect. KFC, come on. It really

00:40:41.699 --> 00:40:44.039
is. Okay, more questions for you, Sierra. We're

00:40:44.039 --> 00:40:46.780
now on episode two, season two. Season two, episode

00:40:46.780 --> 00:40:48.260
two, whatever you want to call it. There's a

00:40:48.260 --> 00:40:51.440
flashback with Elle. I don't understand how the

00:40:51.440 --> 00:40:53.460
portals keep forming. I don't understand why

00:40:53.460 --> 00:40:55.440
they're organic. And I don't understand how she's

00:40:55.440 --> 00:40:58.360
able to use her powers so easily after wasting

00:40:58.360 --> 00:41:01.079
the Demogorgon. Yeah, I don't understand any

00:41:01.079 --> 00:41:02.920
of that either. I was thinking the exact same

00:41:02.920 --> 00:41:06.059
thing, especially about her powers, because she's

00:41:06.059 --> 00:41:09.780
so depleted at the end of the last season. And

00:41:09.780 --> 00:41:11.760
then all of a sudden she's just using her powers

00:41:11.760 --> 00:41:14.260
again. And it's been five minutes. Five minutes.

00:41:14.800 --> 00:41:18.639
Yeah, so I don't quite understand. Also, you

00:41:18.639 --> 00:41:20.920
know, I mentioned in the description, like, a

00:41:20.920 --> 00:41:23.599
perfectly placed portal in the paw print. Right,

00:41:23.599 --> 00:41:27.300
yeah, for real. It's like, I get it from a visual,

00:41:27.460 --> 00:41:34.320
you know, like, from a visual standpoint. Doylist,

00:41:34.599 --> 00:41:39.559
I guess. I get it. But, like, in the actual show,

00:41:39.719 --> 00:41:43.510
like, is the... portal like this is a great place

00:41:43.510 --> 00:41:46.730
to pop her out of here well so right she uses

00:41:46.730 --> 00:41:49.849
the she uses the portal that the demogorgon initially

00:41:49.849 --> 00:41:53.650
uses to come out when it kills brenner it's that

00:41:53.650 --> 00:41:56.010
portal but the fact that it's pause i just like

00:41:56.010 --> 00:41:58.329
it's some of this like visual representation

00:41:58.329 --> 00:42:02.210
kind of messing with the actual world building

00:42:02.210 --> 00:42:04.610
and logic of the world just like it really gets

00:42:04.610 --> 00:42:09.789
under my fandom shmandumness uh okay I also have

00:42:09.789 --> 00:42:11.389
a couple of different, like, I'm interested in

00:42:11.389 --> 00:42:14.250
the fact that, like, I really like Hopper and

00:42:14.250 --> 00:42:16.989
Elle's storyline, but I'm uninterested in Elle's

00:42:16.989 --> 00:42:20.150
storyline in these first four episodes. Yes.

00:42:20.710 --> 00:42:23.230
Like, Hopper dealing with the daughter, interesting.

00:42:23.630 --> 00:42:27.949
Elle wandering after Mike, uninteresting. Exactly.

00:42:28.030 --> 00:42:32.789
Yeah, I agree. Her being, like, I mean, I think

00:42:32.789 --> 00:42:36.449
it's very perfectly encapsulated in today's word

00:42:36.449 --> 00:42:40.480
of the day is brat. Yeah. We know it's a really

00:42:40.480 --> 00:42:43.659
terrible situation, Elle, but, like, come on.

00:42:43.659 --> 00:42:45.579
Yeah, for real. Like, work with the man here.

00:42:45.699 --> 00:42:49.619
He's doing his best. And she's just such a stickler.

00:42:49.659 --> 00:42:53.059
For how much people have, like, not followed

00:42:53.059 --> 00:42:56.699
through in her life and have lied or have used

00:42:56.699 --> 00:42:59.380
her or whatever, she certainly seems to think

00:42:59.380 --> 00:43:01.980
that every single person is going to be taken

00:43:01.980 --> 00:43:04.059
exactly at their word. And if he's even, like,

00:43:04.059 --> 00:43:06.820
a second late, she gets so annoyed. I'm like,

00:43:06.920 --> 00:43:11.980
can you? Like, take a breath. Yeah. If you're

00:43:11.980 --> 00:43:15.380
bored, maybe ask him to bring other things for

00:43:15.380 --> 00:43:18.619
you to do. Yeah. Instead of sit there and watch

00:43:18.619 --> 00:43:21.539
TV. Or start to ask for some nighttime excursions.

00:43:21.679 --> 00:43:24.099
Right? Because he says never leave by yourself,

00:43:24.099 --> 00:43:28.519
especially at day. That's one of the stupid...

00:43:28.519 --> 00:43:30.199
He says it, especially at day, which means that

00:43:30.199 --> 00:43:32.619
there is some room for night. I know she's a

00:43:32.619 --> 00:43:34.619
kid, and she's supposed to be younger than she

00:43:34.619 --> 00:43:38.659
actually looks. In this whole series. But her

00:43:38.659 --> 00:43:42.400
lack of ability to reason is really frustrating.

00:43:43.260 --> 00:43:46.579
To the point where I understand character -wise

00:43:46.579 --> 00:43:47.940
why it's going on, but that doesn't mean I can't

00:43:47.940 --> 00:43:53.380
still be annoyed. Yes. The Halloween vibes are

00:43:53.380 --> 00:43:55.920
so good. And it was really interesting because

00:43:55.920 --> 00:43:58.179
I was like, when they announced season two and

00:43:58.179 --> 00:43:59.219
they were like, it's going to be just that during

00:43:59.219 --> 00:44:00.719
Halloween, I was like, brilliant, perfect. It

00:44:00.719 --> 00:44:03.940
should be every October. And then they were like,

00:44:04.000 --> 00:44:05.519
actually, we're doing July for season three.

00:44:05.559 --> 00:44:06.980
And I was like, what? And then they did the great

00:44:06.980 --> 00:44:11.039
1980s July 4th, like, set up. And I was like,

00:44:11.079 --> 00:44:12.719
okay, fine. And then you brought in Kevin Bacon

00:44:12.719 --> 00:44:14.780
as mayor and it all feels good and we're all

00:44:14.780 --> 00:44:18.800
good. Kevin Bacon? No, no, no. Cary Elwes. You

00:44:18.800 --> 00:44:21.260
are so correct. It is definitely not Kevin Bacon.

00:44:21.539 --> 00:44:24.349
It's Cary Elwes. Anyways. Although Kevin Bacon

00:44:24.349 --> 00:44:26.909
as the mayor, that's another, that would be,

00:44:26.949 --> 00:44:29.210
I could get behind that casting as well. Yeah,

00:44:29.210 --> 00:44:35.409
absolutely. I clearly could. But pushing past

00:44:35.409 --> 00:44:42.030
the Bacon problem. So I, when they did, this

00:44:42.030 --> 00:44:44.170
is a slight tangent, when they announced Wednesday

00:44:44.170 --> 00:44:46.710
coming out, the show, and then they put it in

00:44:46.710 --> 00:44:49.230
November, I was like, who's getting fired at

00:44:49.230 --> 00:44:51.949
Netflix? How are you? How is this not a September,

00:44:52.110 --> 00:44:55.130
October show? Yeah. And then what do they do

00:44:55.130 --> 00:44:57.829
for season two? It's out now in August. And I

00:44:57.829 --> 00:45:01.650
was like, why? Why is it in August? Put it in

00:45:01.650 --> 00:45:04.750
late September and October. Unless the finale

00:45:04.750 --> 00:45:07.929
is set up for October. And I think it is. So

00:45:07.929 --> 00:45:11.090
that's fine. But I'm like, why are we? This is

00:45:11.090 --> 00:45:13.590
the most. Anyways, it's fine. It's all good.

00:45:13.670 --> 00:45:17.769
Netflix, hire me. Okay, Halloween vibes are super

00:45:17.769 --> 00:45:20.190
on point, though, for this show, and I absolutely

00:45:20.190 --> 00:45:23.130
love it. And I love the transition from childhood

00:45:23.130 --> 00:45:25.949
to teens in the costume wearing, how they show

00:45:25.949 --> 00:45:27.809
up at school, and they're the only ones in costume.

00:45:28.269 --> 00:45:32.210
That was, okay, that's just crazy to me. Yeah.

00:45:32.329 --> 00:45:37.340
But they're the only people. it's dramatic it's

00:45:37.340 --> 00:45:40.400
there's gonna be at least someone else it's very

00:45:40.400 --> 00:45:44.699
dramatic but i i do i feel really bad it does

00:45:44.699 --> 00:45:47.800
seem very much like there was a memo of like

00:45:47.800 --> 00:45:50.679
we are not doing costumes at school and somehow

00:45:50.679 --> 00:45:55.219
these four these four goobers totally miss bringing

00:45:55.219 --> 00:45:59.920
that one home goobers goobers indeed uh okay

00:45:59.920 --> 00:46:02.610
so That episode, the Halloween episode, this

00:46:02.610 --> 00:46:04.389
episode is probably one of my favorite from a

00:46:04.389 --> 00:46:06.190
comfort standpoint. Because there's just this

00:46:06.190 --> 00:46:09.690
nice little lull of real life while stuff is

00:46:09.690 --> 00:46:12.769
ramping up. And you get to see things in Hawkins

00:46:12.769 --> 00:46:15.530
not just be cursed. And I just, I love it. Yeah,

00:46:15.550 --> 00:46:20.570
it's very, very nice. Also, we get Erica. I know!

00:46:20.710 --> 00:46:25.980
She shows up with Lucas! Which is, she's so obnoxious.

00:46:26.199 --> 00:46:29.260
I, like, I forget. It's kind of like another

00:46:29.260 --> 00:46:32.340
Steve situation where, like, we hate Steve at

00:46:32.340 --> 00:46:34.480
the very, very beginning and then we like him

00:46:34.480 --> 00:46:38.280
so quickly. Yeah. And with Erica, she is so annoying.

00:46:38.820 --> 00:46:41.780
I know, she really is. She really is. Even the

00:46:41.780 --> 00:46:44.760
beginning of season three, she's so annoying.

00:46:44.760 --> 00:46:48.800
I know, I know, I know. I'm like, can we just

00:46:48.800 --> 00:46:51.960
kick you out of this ice cream shop? My goodness.

00:46:52.239 --> 00:46:57.059
Nope. Like, stop serving her. No. But no, we're

00:46:57.059 --> 00:46:59.059
going to need her because you can't spell America

00:46:59.059 --> 00:47:02.300
without Erica. Totally. Oh my gosh. Okay. So

00:47:02.300 --> 00:47:05.579
speaking of people who are over the top, is Billy's

00:47:05.579 --> 00:47:09.019
chicken run with the Ghostbusters a little too

00:47:09.019 --> 00:47:11.980
over the top? I feel like. I mean, in a show

00:47:11.980 --> 00:47:15.539
where they had a middle schooler attempt murder.

00:47:15.679 --> 00:47:18.179
That's so true. Oh, you're so wrong. This just

00:47:18.179 --> 00:47:23.539
tracks. Okay. But I know. Tripping up from one

00:47:23.539 --> 00:47:25.960
to three. I just, I hate it. I hate it so much.

00:47:26.079 --> 00:47:27.780
I don't hate this as much. It's really terrible.

00:47:27.820 --> 00:47:29.960
I don't hate this as much as the Troy thing.

00:47:30.079 --> 00:47:32.480
But it is a moment in the show every time I watch

00:47:32.480 --> 00:47:34.159
it where I'm like, this takes me out of the show.

00:47:34.260 --> 00:47:37.460
I'm now thinking about the writing. And I just

00:47:37.460 --> 00:47:40.380
am like, and I think they do a great job, all

00:47:40.380 --> 00:47:43.119
the actors in the scene with, you know, Billy

00:47:43.119 --> 00:47:46.360
staring and then the way that he looks over and

00:47:46.360 --> 00:47:48.559
almost is like Heath Ledger's Joker when he's

00:47:48.559 --> 00:47:52.550
like, that was close. But, I'm... I don't know.

00:47:53.829 --> 00:47:58.369
It's, ugh. Mm -hmm. It's not a good look. Yeah.

00:47:58.789 --> 00:48:02.590
It's also always a good sign when someone, and

00:48:02.590 --> 00:48:05.210
Nance in this case, wants to drink her feelings

00:48:05.210 --> 00:48:06.969
away, Steve. I feel like you could have known

00:48:06.969 --> 00:48:10.329
that she was unhappy before she started drinking

00:48:10.329 --> 00:48:12.650
if she was just like, glug, glug, glug, glug,

00:48:12.650 --> 00:48:14.809
glug, glug, barb, barb, barb, barb, barb, barb.

00:48:15.730 --> 00:48:18.869
Yeah. You just have to have some fun. I'm like,

00:48:18.949 --> 00:48:22.159
yes, this is a... Excellent way to cheer her

00:48:22.159 --> 00:48:25.840
up. Definitely. Taking her out of her element

00:48:25.840 --> 00:48:31.719
into a sticky situation with alcohol. Nailing

00:48:31.719 --> 00:48:35.480
it. His whole thing is like, let's just normalize

00:48:35.480 --> 00:48:37.900
everything. Let's just step away from it. Let's

00:48:37.900 --> 00:48:40.159
not actually deal with it. Versus Jonathan's

00:48:40.159 --> 00:48:42.260
so good for her because he's like, I want to

00:48:42.260 --> 00:48:45.019
deal with this. I want to do something. Yeah.

00:48:45.019 --> 00:48:48.079
I do get a little bit on Steve's side of, like,

00:48:48.159 --> 00:48:50.420
just for a night, let's just, like, have a good

00:48:50.420 --> 00:48:52.099
time. Certainly. But that's, like, his only vibe.

00:48:52.679 --> 00:48:54.440
That's, like, the only thing that we've seen

00:48:54.440 --> 00:48:59.320
him do. Yes. So, unfortunately. Sorry, Steve.

00:49:00.139 --> 00:49:03.099
But, on the other side, how great is Bob? So

00:49:03.099 --> 00:49:08.300
good. He's so good. He's just dancing with Joyce.

00:49:08.559 --> 00:49:11.920
He's reassuring her she's not losing her mind.

00:49:12.239 --> 00:49:15.480
And then... yeah and then the whole you know

00:49:15.480 --> 00:49:19.659
whoa nelly speech also like yeah man actually

00:49:19.659 --> 00:49:24.579
whoa nelly calm down but he's just so uh he's

00:49:24.579 --> 00:49:28.260
just such a good person and i just love him so

00:49:28.260 --> 00:49:30.219
much i love him so much so adorable i do not

00:49:30.219 --> 00:49:32.739
like mike as i've stated before and he's such

00:49:32.739 --> 00:49:35.659
a little grubbin the fact that he goes up to

00:49:35.659 --> 00:49:39.199
will grubbin when The fact that he goes up to

00:49:39.199 --> 00:49:41.679
Will and he's like, you should have checked with

00:49:41.679 --> 00:49:44.219
me about Max joining the party for the evening.

00:49:44.519 --> 00:49:46.960
What? No, Will doesn't owe you anything, man.

00:49:47.800 --> 00:49:51.039
Who made you leader? And also, yeah, for real.

00:49:51.139 --> 00:49:53.239
And it's supposed to be a democracy. And also

00:49:53.239 --> 00:49:56.559
he uses Will's vision and Will's fear as a way

00:49:56.559 --> 00:49:59.260
to get a dig in at Lucas and Dustin. He's like,

00:49:59.280 --> 00:50:01.559
you guys keep going. I'm bored anyways. It's

00:50:01.559 --> 00:50:03.239
like, dude, this is about Will. This isn't about

00:50:03.239 --> 00:50:06.280
you. What the? He's such a little grubbin. Yeah.

00:50:06.300 --> 00:50:09.170
Little grubbin. Speaking of little grubbins,

00:50:09.230 --> 00:50:12.349
I understand, Steve, that Nancy is drunk and

00:50:12.349 --> 00:50:14.690
that she kind of just broke up with you. You

00:50:14.690 --> 00:50:17.070
absolutely have a responsibility to take her

00:50:17.070 --> 00:50:21.449
home. Yeah. I don't care. She's plastered out

00:50:21.449 --> 00:50:24.010
of her mind. You have to bring her home. Also,

00:50:24.010 --> 00:50:26.710
wait, wait, wait. Are Nancy's parents just, like,

00:50:26.730 --> 00:50:29.050
blacked out that night? Because Jonathan carries

00:50:29.050 --> 00:50:32.269
her inside and lays her down on the bed. Well...

00:50:32.489 --> 00:50:35.989
We know that Mr. Wheeler is not attentive in

00:50:35.989 --> 00:50:38.929
the slightest and probably wouldn't notice if

00:50:38.929 --> 00:50:41.030
the house came down around him as long as his

00:50:41.030 --> 00:50:42.889
chair and his TV were in place. Yeah, totally.

00:50:44.250 --> 00:50:47.530
Mrs. Wheeler, I feel like she has to have some

00:50:47.530 --> 00:50:50.630
sort of semblance of knowing that something's

00:50:50.630 --> 00:50:55.530
going on. But potentially just thinks it's Steve

00:50:55.530 --> 00:50:58.989
bringing her home and so doesn't think to check.

00:50:59.070 --> 00:51:01.480
But why is she allowed? It's fine. It's cool.

00:51:01.719 --> 00:51:04.099
Everything's good. Not everybody was raised in

00:51:04.099 --> 00:51:08.380
a household like I was. Okay, good. That's fine.

00:51:08.539 --> 00:51:10.980
But I will say, the picture of her and Steve

00:51:10.980 --> 00:51:13.179
on the mantle when Jonathan lays her down in

00:51:13.179 --> 00:51:18.880
bed is a brutal. Yeah, that's rough. That's rough.

00:51:20.940 --> 00:51:25.940
But then we get some more L situations, and she's...

00:51:26.889 --> 00:51:30.269
She's using white noise for sensory deprivation.

00:51:30.289 --> 00:51:32.289
Instead of using the whole tank and the salt

00:51:32.289 --> 00:51:34.650
water and everything, she's figured out kind

00:51:34.650 --> 00:51:38.969
of a cheat code to be able to find people, in

00:51:38.969 --> 00:51:43.809
this case, to find Mike. And so I think it's

00:51:43.809 --> 00:51:47.210
interesting to see her already developing her

00:51:47.210 --> 00:51:51.500
powers and her skills. Yeah, to level up. That

00:51:51.500 --> 00:51:52.960
was neat. That was really neat. I think that's

00:51:52.960 --> 00:51:56.280
a cool part of this episode, for sure. Last thing

00:51:56.280 --> 00:51:58.559
before we move on to episode three, though. I

00:51:58.559 --> 00:52:01.960
do need to defend Three Musketeers. Same. That's

00:52:01.960 --> 00:52:06.480
a top ten candy in Halloween time, for sure.

00:52:06.639 --> 00:52:11.460
So, in ascending order, okay, we've got M &M's,

00:52:11.480 --> 00:52:14.809
the dark chocolate version, at number ten. At

00:52:14.809 --> 00:52:17.090
number nine, this is my list, y 'all, not Sierra's

00:52:17.090 --> 00:52:19.409
list. This is not representing the pod. It's

00:52:19.409 --> 00:52:21.449
just representing me. At number nine, we have

00:52:21.449 --> 00:52:24.070
Almond Joy, which like a lot of people have not

00:52:24.070 --> 00:52:26.869
have. And it's chocolate and peanut butter. Not

00:52:26.869 --> 00:52:29.449
peanut butter. It's chocolate and coconut and

00:52:29.449 --> 00:52:32.190
an almond. And it's incredible. And I throw away

00:52:32.190 --> 00:52:34.230
the almond every time because I hate almonds.

00:52:34.389 --> 00:52:38.989
But I love the rest of it. That's... At number

00:52:38.989 --> 00:52:41.449
eight... I used to do that. We've got Snickers,

00:52:41.590 --> 00:52:45.349
which is a great candy. At... Number seven, we've

00:52:45.349 --> 00:52:47.849
got Reese's Sticks, which I will not hear anything

00:52:47.849 --> 00:52:50.329
about, or else I will start singing a parody

00:52:50.329 --> 00:52:52.929
song by Sticks about the renegade who had it

00:52:52.929 --> 00:52:55.730
made, released for a bounty, which is a reference

00:52:55.730 --> 00:52:57.869
that like six people will get, but it's a wonderful

00:52:57.869 --> 00:53:01.289
reference. And number six, we have Milky Way,

00:53:01.349 --> 00:53:05.269
people. It's a great milk chocolate fusion with

00:53:05.269 --> 00:53:07.750
caramel and nougat, but you know what I like

00:53:07.750 --> 00:53:10.889
better? Just chocolate and nougat. At number

00:53:10.889 --> 00:53:14.530
five, we've got the Three Musketeers. It's a

00:53:14.530 --> 00:53:18.849
top five candy for sure. Beating it, at number

00:53:18.849 --> 00:53:21.570
four, we've got Twix. No explanation needed there.

00:53:21.650 --> 00:53:24.929
It's fabulous candy. At number three, we've got

00:53:24.929 --> 00:53:27.690
the classic give me a break, give me a break,

00:53:27.869 --> 00:53:30.949
break me off of a piece of that fudge nothing.

00:53:31.150 --> 00:53:33.730
No, of course, it's Kit Kat. Fancy piece. Fancy

00:53:33.730 --> 00:53:38.349
piece. Number two, we have Reese's. Which is

00:53:38.349 --> 00:53:41.489
an amazing, amazing, amazing candy. And at number

00:53:41.489 --> 00:53:44.070
one, you've got Midnight Milky Way, which I will

00:53:44.070 --> 00:53:47.750
not hear any slander on. That's a dark chocolate

00:53:47.750 --> 00:53:49.530
version of a Milky Way, and it's way better than

00:53:49.530 --> 00:53:51.190
anything you've ever had in your mind. Three

00:53:51.190 --> 00:53:54.010
Musketeers, top five. That's the official list

00:53:54.010 --> 00:53:56.369
of our podcast. Sierra now has to abide by it,

00:53:56.389 --> 00:53:59.820
too. I will tell you, you're going to be very

00:53:59.820 --> 00:54:02.699
excited because they did announce new Halloween

00:54:02.699 --> 00:54:05.719
candy for this year. And included in that are

00:54:05.719 --> 00:54:10.139
Reese's mini unwrapped pumpkins. Amazing. And

00:54:10.139 --> 00:54:14.800
also Kit Kat counts. I love this. They're little

00:54:14.800 --> 00:54:17.440
vampires. I love this so much. Okay, good. I'm

00:54:17.440 --> 00:54:18.960
looking forward to Halloween. Happy Halloween,

00:54:18.960 --> 00:54:21.440
everyone. Oh, and also they did drop Reese's

00:54:21.440 --> 00:54:25.280
Oreos and Oreo Reese's. This is a problem. This

00:54:25.280 --> 00:54:27.110
is a problem. That's all I'm going to say about

00:54:27.110 --> 00:54:30.630
that. That's a problem. Yeah. R .I .P. Diets

00:54:30.630 --> 00:54:35.750
everywhere. And R .I .P. Episode 2, Episode 3.

00:54:35.829 --> 00:54:37.389
Okay, so this is where Dustin and Dart begins.

00:54:38.409 --> 00:54:40.909
How long did it take you, Sierra, on the first

00:54:40.909 --> 00:54:43.210
watch to realize that this was a demi -baby blep?

00:54:44.010 --> 00:54:49.429
I mean, it's very obvious by the first screech.

00:54:49.469 --> 00:54:52.230
Yes. Okay. But it took you to the first screech.

00:54:52.599 --> 00:54:55.199
No, I think I figured it out before then. It

00:54:55.199 --> 00:54:58.219
was sometime when he's in the tank and he doesn't

00:54:58.219 --> 00:55:00.039
like light and things like that. And I was like,

00:55:00.119 --> 00:55:03.639
what's going on? See, I didn't realize that it

00:55:03.639 --> 00:55:05.400
was going to be a Demogorgon or a Demodog at

00:55:05.400 --> 00:55:09.079
all until the screech. My wife called it out

00:55:09.079 --> 00:55:12.059
instantly. He popped out and she was like, that's

00:55:12.059 --> 00:55:14.760
a Demogorgon. And I was like, what? And then

00:55:14.760 --> 00:55:17.559
later was like, you're right, I'm sorry. Also,

00:55:17.619 --> 00:55:21.679
I got nothing from you from Demobabyblep. I liked

00:55:21.679 --> 00:55:24.639
it. Okay, thank you. The booger blep. You're

00:55:24.639 --> 00:55:26.320
right. You have a better name for it already.

00:55:27.480 --> 00:55:31.019
Yeah, sorry. It's fine. Baby blep. Demi booger

00:55:31.019 --> 00:55:36.920
baby blep. Oh, man. In episode three, because

00:55:36.920 --> 00:55:38.559
there's the basketball and the shower scenes

00:55:38.559 --> 00:55:41.179
and everything with Billy, I just think Billy's

00:55:41.179 --> 00:55:43.400
actor should turn in an HR complaint for just

00:55:43.400 --> 00:55:46.239
constantly being shirtless. It's because of the

00:55:46.239 --> 00:55:49.440
hair. Constantly. Okay, fine. It's because of

00:55:49.440 --> 00:55:52.480
the hair. You think HR would win that? They have

00:55:52.480 --> 00:55:55.480
to distract. Look at his hair. You're right.

00:55:56.380 --> 00:56:01.239
Gavel. Case closed. Okay. No, unfortunately,

00:56:01.340 --> 00:56:04.900
it's just because they got to set up the season

00:56:04.900 --> 00:56:08.380
three. Yeah. Everybody loves Billy. Everyone

00:56:08.380 --> 00:56:10.219
does love Billy. I think it's a really good way

00:56:10.219 --> 00:56:12.079
of characterizing Billy by making him king of

00:56:12.079 --> 00:56:14.139
school over Steve. So all the obnoxious bully

00:56:14.139 --> 00:56:16.099
stuff that Steve is doing, he's being dethroned.

00:56:16.260 --> 00:56:19.179
And so we can see Steve's transition into babysitterhood,

00:56:19.239 --> 00:56:22.139
and I just love it. I do really like it. Yes.

00:56:22.340 --> 00:56:28.860
Yeah. Um, so then with Joyce, um, there's, there's

00:56:28.860 --> 00:56:31.579
just, there's no way she's drawing the, the shadow

00:56:31.579 --> 00:56:35.639
creature. Yeah. Um, and, and she's drawing over

00:56:35.639 --> 00:56:37.699
the T I just am like, what does this care? The

00:56:37.699 --> 00:56:40.920
TV? Like, why are you, you're drawing? Like,

00:56:40.940 --> 00:56:45.019
I know you're tracing somehow a shadow under

00:56:45.019 --> 00:56:49.820
static. From a VCR onto a staticky TV onto a

00:56:49.820 --> 00:56:52.079
regular piece of paper that definitely has enough

00:56:52.079 --> 00:56:54.280
light coming through to be able to see, to trace

00:56:54.280 --> 00:56:58.380
a hundred percent. But also like she is really,

00:56:58.480 --> 00:57:02.980
really carving away with, with that on the TV.

00:57:03.099 --> 00:57:07.739
And I just know, Oh, I know that TVs were sturdier

00:57:07.739 --> 00:57:12.340
and you could do things of that nature, but also

00:57:12.340 --> 00:57:15.920
like she would get so staticky because. If you

00:57:15.920 --> 00:57:18.320
remember those TVs, you put your hand near it

00:57:18.320 --> 00:57:21.840
and you could feel the sizzles. Yeah. Yeah, your

00:57:21.840 --> 00:57:26.480
hair would stand on end. Oh, my gosh. Just because

00:57:26.480 --> 00:57:28.940
someone's from the Death Star, does that automatically

00:57:28.940 --> 00:57:33.559
make them bad? Okay. I would like to also keep

00:57:33.559 --> 00:57:38.340
in mind, these kids have only seen the... There's

00:57:38.340 --> 00:57:42.739
no prequels. There's no sequels. There's no any

00:57:42.739 --> 00:57:46.340
of this by this point. It is just the original

00:57:46.340 --> 00:57:48.500
trilogy. And a Christmas special. And I think,

00:57:48.500 --> 00:57:51.659
yeah, I think Mike's viewpoint here is valid.

00:57:51.860 --> 00:57:55.639
Okay, so it's a fascinating question. And so

00:57:55.639 --> 00:57:57.800
I put a little bit more thought into it than

00:57:57.800 --> 00:58:02.219
normal to my standards. So by World War II standards,

00:58:02.619 --> 00:58:05.739
people who were part of the Nazi military operation

00:58:05.739 --> 00:58:10.099
all were held accountable, regardless of if they

00:58:10.099 --> 00:58:13.019
were following orders or not. Of course, that

00:58:13.019 --> 00:58:14.760
kind of stopped once we needed scientists to

00:58:14.760 --> 00:58:17.480
help beat the Russians. But for the most part,

00:58:17.559 --> 00:58:20.480
they were. So I'll say yes, because if they're

00:58:20.480 --> 00:58:23.579
on the Death Star, they are automatically a part

00:58:23.579 --> 00:58:27.440
of the Empire's military operation. And it's

00:58:27.440 --> 00:58:30.340
a military operation that is for destroying planets.

00:58:31.019 --> 00:58:33.599
Now, I will give the caveat that if you are a

00:58:33.599 --> 00:58:36.599
brainwashed from being a baby on, like a lot

00:58:36.599 --> 00:58:38.800
of stormtroopers are, you're not necessarily

00:58:38.800 --> 00:58:42.579
bad. But I don't know enough psychology to really

00:58:42.579 --> 00:58:46.860
comment on that. Yeah, that's fair. I think the

00:58:46.860 --> 00:58:50.360
main thing is like, are they automatically evil?

00:58:50.940 --> 00:58:54.320
It's like, well. No, but they're bad for sure.

00:58:54.800 --> 00:58:58.719
Yeah. Bad. Bad versus evil. The nuance there.

00:58:58.900 --> 00:59:05.690
Yeah. What's also bad is Mike's reaction to basically

00:59:05.690 --> 00:59:07.929
everything, but specifically Max. Yeah, for real.

00:59:08.949 --> 00:59:13.710
Like, obviously he misses Elle, but like if Max

00:59:13.710 --> 00:59:17.909
was a guy instead of a girl, would he have this

00:59:17.909 --> 00:59:20.530
much of an issue with someone joining their party?

00:59:20.769 --> 00:59:23.510
No. Would he really? I think he just like misses.

00:59:24.110 --> 00:59:26.429
He just misses Elle and doesn't want a replacement

00:59:26.429 --> 00:59:29.730
girl. I will say, if a boy came in and took as

00:59:29.730 --> 00:59:32.250
much of attention from Lucas and Dustin as Max

00:59:32.250 --> 00:59:35.369
did, he might just be as jealous. But I think

00:59:35.369 --> 00:59:37.789
we're specifically seeing the jealousy aspect

00:59:37.789 --> 00:59:40.190
that is like, another girl and she's not Elle.

00:59:40.550 --> 00:59:43.610
Yeah, that's fair. Why do they immediately pit

00:59:43.610 --> 00:59:46.389
the two girls against each other? Have you met

00:59:46.389 --> 00:59:52.650
teenage girls? All right, fair. You might not

00:59:52.650 --> 00:59:57.610
like it. But man, is it real life. Okay, so major

00:59:57.610 --> 01:00:00.429
prep question for season five. Why is the Mind

01:00:00.429 --> 01:00:03.389
Flayer targeting Will? Why is it looking for

01:00:03.389 --> 01:00:07.449
Will? Why Will? I feel like that's just the theme.

01:00:07.590 --> 01:00:09.530
That's the name of every episode. Prepping for

01:00:09.530 --> 01:00:12.949
season five is just Why Will. Amazing. Okay,

01:00:13.030 --> 01:00:16.789
so. Yes. Episode four. Here we are. Last one.

01:00:16.909 --> 01:00:19.130
A couple of notes from us before we move on with

01:00:19.130 --> 01:00:21.659
the rest of our pod. Um, a hopper needs some

01:00:21.659 --> 01:00:25.559
parenting lessons. He, um, you know, he, he,

01:00:25.619 --> 01:00:28.780
he starts to get some in season three one or

01:00:28.780 --> 01:00:32.480
yeah. Once, once Joyce like knows that he's parenting.

01:00:32.659 --> 01:00:35.860
Um, but he, he really needs some help with the

01:00:35.860 --> 01:00:40.320
parenting situation. Uh, no TV ever is a stupid

01:00:40.320 --> 01:00:43.940
consequence. Talk about like, sorry, what's enforceable.

01:00:43.960 --> 01:00:45.500
Like you at some point are going to be like,

01:00:45.539 --> 01:00:47.980
I want to be back pop. Like what the heck? Yeah.

01:00:48.559 --> 01:00:53.500
It's going to happen. So, like, overly dramatic.

01:00:53.780 --> 01:00:57.099
However, as a parent, there are some times when

01:00:57.099 --> 01:00:58.940
you're just so fed up that you're just like,

01:00:59.019 --> 01:01:01.000
that's it. You're done. No toys for the rest

01:01:01.000 --> 01:01:05.099
of your life. And as unrealistic as that is,

01:01:05.179 --> 01:01:07.199
sometimes in that moment, that's the only rational

01:01:07.199 --> 01:01:08.980
thought that you have in your brain. That's the

01:01:08.980 --> 01:01:10.619
only, I would say, probably the only thought.

01:01:10.679 --> 01:01:12.519
I would say rational probably gets thrown out

01:01:12.519 --> 01:01:15.699
the window. Okay, you think it's rational at

01:01:15.699 --> 01:01:17.420
the time that you're saying it. Masquerading

01:01:17.420 --> 01:01:18.599
is rational. And five seconds later, you go,

01:01:18.679 --> 01:01:22.519
wait, hold on. What did I just say? There's this

01:01:22.519 --> 01:01:26.800
awesome sequence of events in episode four where

01:01:26.800 --> 01:01:29.880
we have Dr. Owens talking to Jonathan and Nancy.

01:01:30.099 --> 01:01:33.500
And during that whole scene, I'm like, this actor's

01:01:33.500 --> 01:01:37.539
incredible. He's nailing, like, hey, I'm putting

01:01:37.539 --> 01:01:40.559
on the good face of being a good guy with no

01:01:40.559 --> 01:01:43.340
worries. Perfectly calm explanation. And his

01:01:43.340 --> 01:01:45.739
bedside manner is just incredible. But he's an

01:01:45.739 --> 01:01:48.460
actor doing this. He's not a real person. And

01:01:48.460 --> 01:01:51.000
I'm really impressed by his acting skill in that

01:01:51.000 --> 01:01:54.820
scene. Yeah, it's very good. In addition to that,

01:01:54.980 --> 01:01:59.599
creepy Will, I love. And I'm so glad that he

01:01:59.599 --> 01:02:01.260
doesn't just, Will just doesn't disappear off

01:02:01.260 --> 01:02:03.019
the face of the planet. That we get to see a

01:02:03.019 --> 01:02:05.940
lot of him. And that he's such a main part of

01:02:05.940 --> 01:02:09.300
this story. Because I just, he's just so cool

01:02:09.300 --> 01:02:11.840
when he's like, he likes it cold. A chilling

01:02:11.840 --> 01:02:16.920
line. Yes. So good. So good. And then in classic

01:02:16.920 --> 01:02:20.559
Stranger Things fashion, we have this mid -season

01:02:20.559 --> 01:02:23.320
end with the Roots realization and Hop going

01:02:23.320 --> 01:02:25.980
down. And that's just such a great part. It's

01:02:25.980 --> 01:02:31.840
so good. Yeah. The other side of this is we've

01:02:31.840 --> 01:02:36.380
only seen Billy all of six times. He sucks every

01:02:36.380 --> 01:02:41.489
time. You know, we mentioned this already, but

01:02:41.489 --> 01:02:43.349
I guess it's really like the only way to fully

01:02:43.349 --> 01:02:46.650
redeem Steve is to give us another jerk to focus

01:02:46.650 --> 01:02:53.449
on. But like, I just. And also the guy that I

01:02:53.449 --> 01:02:55.909
wish died is still alive and still annoying.

01:02:58.449 --> 01:03:02.309
Terrible, terrible. Oh, man. But then we get

01:03:02.309 --> 01:03:05.769
the first rainbow. Three to the three to the

01:03:05.769 --> 01:03:10.170
right. Four to the left. 450. just the hints

01:03:10.170 --> 01:03:16.090
get going into terry ives uh story which is just

01:03:16.090 --> 01:03:19.650
oh yeah oh yeah oh we'll get there folks we'll

01:03:19.650 --> 01:03:21.849
get there uh big noticing right at the end here

01:03:21.849 --> 01:03:25.929
hopper can dig to the upside down what is wild

01:03:25.929 --> 01:03:29.489
what is this world how does it have it happen

01:03:29.489 --> 01:03:32.090
to go mingle and why is it mixing in such a weird

01:03:32.090 --> 01:03:34.210
way all right so the portals are created to get

01:03:34.210 --> 01:03:36.449
to the upside down great And it takes a huge

01:03:36.449 --> 01:03:39.329
amount of energy to do it. Okay. But also vines

01:03:39.329 --> 01:03:43.210
are the harbingers of the upside down. Okay.

01:03:43.809 --> 01:03:48.090
But also you can just dig into it. Okay. Cool.

01:03:48.269 --> 01:03:50.670
All right. Question, question, question, question,

01:03:50.670 --> 01:03:53.389
question. But on the other side, Nancy's pretty

01:03:53.389 --> 01:03:57.130
dang smart. Her whole plot to record and get

01:03:57.130 --> 01:04:00.210
all that information. I honestly, I legitimately

01:04:00.210 --> 01:04:04.579
like forgot. Every time. Every time I forget

01:04:04.579 --> 01:04:07.679
that she has this ulterior motive and this separate

01:04:07.679 --> 01:04:11.219
plan. And I'm like, dang, Nancy, way to go. Well,

01:04:11.260 --> 01:04:13.699
every time I'm like, oh, yeah, what does happen

01:04:13.699 --> 01:04:15.800
with Barb's parents? I forget what they're doing

01:04:15.800 --> 01:04:17.719
here. And then this happens and I'm like, oh,

01:04:17.980 --> 01:04:22.900
wow, she's so cool. Mm -hmm. Oh, yeah, for sure.

01:04:23.079 --> 01:04:26.239
Moving on. You know, Sam, you don't always have

01:04:26.239 --> 01:04:28.400
to face down a horde of angry soldiers by yourself.

01:04:28.719 --> 01:04:31.480
Buckle up, Schmisseners, because it is time for

01:04:31.480 --> 01:04:34.980
our Sansa is Smarter Than John category for most

01:04:34.980 --> 01:04:38.960
important character moment of this set of episodes.

01:04:40.579 --> 01:04:46.059
My pick is if we're both going crazy, then we'll

01:04:46.059 --> 01:04:49.420
go crazy together. Mike and Will making a pact

01:04:49.420 --> 01:04:52.920
to stick together through whatever comes. It's

01:04:52.920 --> 01:04:55.710
a really - Really sweet moment. And it's one

01:04:55.710 --> 01:04:59.030
of Mike's better moments, too, for sure. Yeah.

01:04:59.369 --> 01:05:02.489
I have an honorable mention. I have Max saying

01:05:02.489 --> 01:05:04.230
that she could be their Zoomer. Because this

01:05:04.230 --> 01:05:06.409
is Max sort of like, hey, I actually really want

01:05:06.409 --> 01:05:09.210
to be a part of this moment. That she's willing

01:05:09.210 --> 01:05:11.309
to say in front of Mike. And I think that establishes

01:05:11.309 --> 01:05:14.230
a character a ton. Yeah, definitely. I think

01:05:14.230 --> 01:05:16.889
the real one for this whole thing is Nancy revealing

01:05:16.889 --> 01:05:20.630
that they recorded Owens during that chat. Yes.

01:05:21.389 --> 01:05:23.190
I think that's the most important character moment.

01:05:23.329 --> 01:05:26.610
Because Nancy, again, is leveling up in a way

01:05:26.610 --> 01:05:30.030
that she's, like, I, you know, when I think about

01:05:30.030 --> 01:05:33.789
MVPs of the whole series thus far, I wasn't really,

01:05:33.929 --> 01:05:35.889
like, Nancy hadn't crossed my mind. I'm like,

01:05:35.949 --> 01:05:39.989
man, Hopper, Elle. And then I'm like, wait, wait,

01:05:40.190 --> 01:05:43.530
is it Nancy? Because she's just, it's so good.

01:05:43.670 --> 01:05:45.630
So, I don't know. She's great. Do you want to,

01:05:45.630 --> 01:05:47.750
do you want to, which one do you think? Are you

01:05:47.750 --> 01:05:48.829
going with yours or are you going with mine?

01:05:49.369 --> 01:05:54.139
Nancy or Mike? I still think Mike and Will in

01:05:54.139 --> 01:05:58.860
this moment. Because I think that this specific

01:05:58.860 --> 01:06:03.059
line carries through a little bit more and falls

01:06:03.059 --> 01:06:05.340
apart and comes back together over the course

01:06:05.340 --> 01:06:08.519
of the next few seasons. I'll defer to you in

01:06:08.519 --> 01:06:11.860
this case. Okay. I know. Well, in this case,

01:06:11.880 --> 01:06:14.960
I just lost a hand. But listen up. It's the I

01:06:14.960 --> 01:06:17.579
am your father category for most iconic character

01:06:17.579 --> 01:06:21.690
moment. You've got what, Sierra? Okay, I'm counting

01:06:21.690 --> 01:06:24.789
the camera as a character here because I think

01:06:24.789 --> 01:06:28.530
the most iconic thing is hop drops down into

01:06:28.530 --> 01:06:32.550
the upside down. The camera slowly swings around

01:06:32.550 --> 01:06:36.909
until he is standing upside down, like off the

01:06:36.909 --> 01:06:39.989
ceiling, basically. I think it's classic. It's

01:06:39.989 --> 01:06:43.349
excellent cinematography, direction. Just spot

01:06:43.349 --> 01:06:46.289
on. And it also is a really great precursor to

01:06:46.289 --> 01:06:48.090
how we start to interact with the Upside Down

01:06:48.090 --> 01:06:51.070
from now on. But we have a category for it. The

01:06:51.070 --> 01:06:54.510
category is scene. Because the camera's not a

01:06:54.510 --> 01:06:57.809
character. It literally is a scene that you could

01:06:57.809 --> 01:07:02.409
pick for iconic. No, the moment is 100%. He likes

01:07:02.409 --> 01:07:06.250
it cold. I accept. Okay, thank you. He likes

01:07:06.250 --> 01:07:09.389
it cold. Will. It's so good. Talking to Joyce

01:07:09.389 --> 01:07:11.610
about the bath temperature. It's incredible.

01:07:12.320 --> 01:07:17.019
Yeah. Chills. Yeah. Legitimate chills. Yeah,

01:07:17.039 --> 01:07:22.940
absolutely. Everybody sit down. It is time for

01:07:22.940 --> 01:07:27.880
our I am Iron Man. Most iconic and most important

01:07:27.880 --> 01:07:33.480
scene category. I repeat. Because this is where

01:07:33.480 --> 01:07:35.750
it belongs. The final moments. This is where

01:07:35.750 --> 01:07:38.329
it belongs, but I really wanted the visual aspect

01:07:38.329 --> 01:07:41.889
of just the rotating upside down. Because this

01:07:41.889 --> 01:07:43.409
is slightly different. Because it's the final

01:07:43.409 --> 01:07:46.630
moments. Hop digs into the ground in a field,

01:07:46.710 --> 01:07:49.349
drops into a hole, and he's in the upside down.

01:07:49.750 --> 01:07:53.170
So we don't have to use the one gate or the one

01:07:53.170 --> 01:07:57.230
hole in the woods or the one hole in the wall

01:07:57.230 --> 01:08:01.409
of the gym or any of those anymore. We can just

01:08:01.409 --> 01:08:05.480
dig, apparently. Apparently. I will give an honorable

01:08:05.480 --> 01:08:09.800
mention to Will being taken out by the Mind Flayer

01:08:09.800 --> 01:08:11.960
with all the shadows going in. That's such an

01:08:11.960 --> 01:08:16.979
iconic moment of like, go away! Go away! Go away!

01:08:17.140 --> 01:08:20.119
And then he just goes through every opening in

01:08:20.119 --> 01:08:23.800
his body in order to plant something in him.

01:08:23.920 --> 01:08:26.699
It's so good and it's so iconic, but I think

01:08:26.699 --> 01:08:29.279
you're right. That spinning camera is just amazing.

01:08:30.060 --> 01:08:33.920
Crack open an encyclopedia. It's time for, as

01:08:33.920 --> 01:08:36.840
Elijah Wood once said, no, how could we have

01:08:36.840 --> 01:08:40.119
known category, where we discuss the most important

01:08:40.119 --> 01:08:43.800
information disseminated to the fandom over these

01:08:43.800 --> 01:08:47.060
first four episodes. Tell us about it, Sierra.

01:08:47.439 --> 01:08:51.460
Okay. Hop knows what is up with the lab this

01:08:51.460 --> 01:08:54.760
time. He is in the know for the most part, and

01:08:54.760 --> 01:08:57.859
the lab is promising to burn back the upside

01:08:57.859 --> 01:09:00.960
down and keep it out of Hawkins. Yeah. However.

01:09:01.739 --> 01:09:04.359
They can't predict that there are now many ways

01:09:04.359 --> 01:09:06.840
into the upside down and it is only growing.

01:09:07.520 --> 01:09:10.880
So I think all that is just vitally important.

01:09:11.340 --> 01:09:14.180
Yeah. Information that we are given that hop

01:09:14.180 --> 01:09:17.329
is hop, hop knows what's going on. and is like

01:09:17.329 --> 01:09:20.289
in league essentially with the lab they're still

01:09:20.289 --> 01:09:22.329
keeping secrets it's what they do you think about

01:09:22.329 --> 01:09:24.409
you think about the prep for season five because

01:09:24.409 --> 01:09:26.489
the way that the season ends is with l closing

01:09:26.489 --> 01:09:29.369
the gate right with her mind powers and then

01:09:29.369 --> 01:09:31.149
a little bit of the shadow monster stays behind

01:09:31.149 --> 01:09:32.750
and that creates the problem for season three

01:09:32.750 --> 01:09:36.890
but at the end of season four a gate opens again

01:09:36.890 --> 01:09:42.090
but remember how giant the gate is yep so like

01:09:42.090 --> 01:09:45.760
y 'all think about that How on earth are they

01:09:45.760 --> 01:09:49.619
going to close that giant of a gate? Seems like

01:09:49.619 --> 01:09:51.439
it's going to have to do with some sort of sacrifice

01:09:51.439 --> 01:09:54.500
from one or more of the characters. Maybe Will.

01:09:54.720 --> 01:09:57.960
Probably. Maybe Elle. Maybe Hopper again. We'll

01:09:57.960 --> 01:10:01.579
see. Yeah, the one other piece of information

01:10:01.579 --> 01:10:06.539
I will continue to harp on this storyline. Will

01:10:06.539 --> 01:10:08.659
can feel the presence of something in the Upside

01:10:08.659 --> 01:10:12.340
Down. Is that the mind flayer? Is it Vecna? Is

01:10:12.340 --> 01:10:13.979
it something else? We don't know. But that's

01:10:13.979 --> 01:10:16.319
a huge piece of information that we learn in

01:10:16.319 --> 01:10:19.520
these four episodes. Time to keep your horses

01:10:19.520 --> 01:10:22.539
safe. It's the I'm gonna make him an offer he

01:10:22.539 --> 01:10:27.560
can't refuse category of best lines. All right.

01:10:27.659 --> 01:10:30.439
I've got three. Okay. I'll work my way up. Okay.

01:10:31.079 --> 01:10:39.199
Finally, victims. Bobula. Yeah. So good. The

01:10:39.199 --> 01:10:43.180
next one that I have is Hopper's convince me,

01:10:43.279 --> 01:10:47.020
which is just so good. Like threatening Owens,

01:10:47.100 --> 01:10:50.279
like convince me that this is okay. Like prove

01:10:50.279 --> 01:10:54.159
it to me. Don't just tell me. Convince me. And

01:10:54.159 --> 01:10:57.760
then number one, no one can resist these bad

01:10:57.760 --> 01:11:01.760
boys. Yeah, that's, that's it for sure. I have

01:11:01.760 --> 01:11:04.819
an honorable mention to put into here. When Dustin's

01:11:04.819 --> 01:11:07.739
like, Presumptuous. That's a good thing, right?

01:11:08.699 --> 01:11:11.819
Again. But it's absolutely. No one can resist

01:11:11.819 --> 01:11:18.079
these bad boys. Dust off that cart deck and get

01:11:18.079 --> 01:11:20.220
ready to shuffle. It's our Joker category for

01:11:20.220 --> 01:11:24.199
who is the MVP of this episode. Sierra? It's

01:11:24.199 --> 01:11:28.119
Nancy. Really? Pulling out the win in the last

01:11:28.119 --> 01:11:32.020
moments. I thought we had other contenders, but.

01:11:32.600 --> 01:11:35.699
Yeah, again, like I said, her big plan had me

01:11:35.699 --> 01:11:38.560
fooled and I've watched this before. She just

01:11:38.560 --> 01:11:41.859
snatches it at the very end. Because I think

01:11:41.859 --> 01:11:44.159
that there's a real wrestle between Hop and Joyce

01:11:44.159 --> 01:11:48.060
for the Roots storyline and Max and Billy for

01:11:48.060 --> 01:11:51.399
having an incredible introduction where we're

01:11:51.399 --> 01:11:53.859
hooked and believe and trust in these characters.

01:11:54.300 --> 01:11:57.579
And, you know, those actors are so fabulous that

01:11:57.579 --> 01:11:59.760
I was like, man, pound for pound, Max and Billy

01:11:59.760 --> 01:12:01.880
do a ton of work in these first four episodes.

01:12:02.470 --> 01:12:04.270
But also Hop and Joyce get the whole roots line.

01:12:04.609 --> 01:12:07.609
And then Nancy, like, scores like 100 points

01:12:07.609 --> 01:12:10.029
in the last game of the season. And everyone's

01:12:10.029 --> 01:12:11.149
just like, oh, wait, it was Nancy. She catches

01:12:11.149 --> 01:12:13.329
the golden snitch. Yeah, absolutely. That's a

01:12:13.329 --> 01:12:15.409
much better metaphor. She catches the snitch

01:12:15.409 --> 01:12:16.689
at the end and everyone goes, oh, yeah, that's

01:12:16.689 --> 01:12:19.010
right. She's a seeker. Yeah. We've just been

01:12:19.010 --> 01:12:21.409
looking at the beaters and keepers and we forgot

01:12:21.409 --> 01:12:23.149
that, like, the people that end the game and

01:12:23.149 --> 01:12:24.670
get all the points are the people that you should

01:12:24.670 --> 01:12:29.449
go for. It's amazing. It's amazing. Well. It's

01:12:29.449 --> 01:12:31.529
time to clean up your evil lair and get ready

01:12:31.529 --> 01:12:36.569
for our I was the turkey all along category for

01:12:36.569 --> 01:12:39.930
what is the biggest takeaway viewers should leave

01:12:39.930 --> 01:12:44.229
with in preparation for season five. Yeah, we

01:12:44.229 --> 01:12:47.890
talked about it already. The upside down can

01:12:47.890 --> 01:12:49.649
infect the real world, the size of the gate,

01:12:49.770 --> 01:12:51.869
all of that sort of stuff. Like what Vectin does

01:12:51.869 --> 01:12:54.050
at the end of season four is another gate. So

01:12:54.050 --> 01:12:58.779
what's happening to Hawkins there? Also. Elle

01:12:58.779 --> 01:13:01.060
transported herself into the Upside Down with

01:13:01.060 --> 01:13:03.439
her powers at the end of Season 1. We learn this

01:13:03.439 --> 01:13:05.600
at the beginning of Season 2. I feel like that's

01:13:05.600 --> 01:13:08.979
some pretty big information. And with Wills flashing

01:13:08.979 --> 01:13:11.680
in and out. Okay, so maybe we've got two people

01:13:11.680 --> 01:13:16.439
who can kind of ride both realms. But today,

01:13:16.619 --> 01:13:19.439
we have a very solemn public service announcement.

01:13:20.140 --> 01:13:24.699
All candy is evil. If it's not destroying your

01:13:24.699 --> 01:13:26.920
teeth, it's rotting your gums, your mums, and

01:13:26.920 --> 01:13:30.340
your bums. Please remember that all candy leads

01:13:30.340 --> 01:13:32.619
straight to the upside down where Vecna, who

01:13:32.619 --> 01:13:35.520
was covered in the discarded wrappers of unsanctioned

01:13:35.520 --> 01:13:38.220
teenage wonderment, is waiting to steal your

01:13:38.220 --> 01:13:42.399
candy and your soul. Cue the overmark. Dun dun

01:13:42.399 --> 01:13:46.220
dun. Thank you, listener schmissners, for listening

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Fandom God. I almost said Fancast again, here

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we go. Welcome to Fandom Shmandam, the Fandom

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God - You. You. Sorry. And who shows up with

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an excellent intro? But I'm in a - Just a complete

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flat tire in the middle of that sentence. Just

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suddenly needed to gargle. I don't know that

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I've ever in the middle of a sentence. Let me

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whip out my Listerine here. Just like halfway

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through my sentence. And she walks out straight

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into a man hunt. Oh, gosh. A man hunt. Yeah,

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I was like, wait, hold on. Max is getting picked

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up from school by psychotic, apparently, Billy,

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who each - What the hell? Who each blame each

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other for being each stuck in each Hawkins. You'd

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think that I would know grammar at some point.

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I'm the English teacher. What did I write yesterday?

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Wobble flobble cobbles? Son of wonderful. Billy

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attempts triple homicide and Mer - Oh my god!

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Wow! Okay. And Mer - Billy - Jesus. I tried to

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say Max and Merrily at the same time, so it turned

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into Merrily. Alright. Ella! Ella's having a

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hard time being cooped up with Hoop, and Hoop

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isn't sure how to coop a souf and leet -a -oot.

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what that sentence says that one that one turns

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into just straight up garbage at the end so i'm

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gonna reread that one i'm so sorry britney we're

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having too much fun darkest dark darkwing dart

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dart escapes and what do we find but will in

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the field of absorbing absorbing the shadow absorbing

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the shadows