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You're in the bay. Once you get over to the bed,

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we'll give you the story. Everything's going

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to happen super fast. Welcome to the emergency

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room. Okay, hey guys At the beginning of this

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podcast all the way close to like episode one

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maybe episode Whatever I came out and said whenever

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I have like weird cases that come into the ER

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that I'll be able to share them or would be willing

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to share them and This is one of those particular

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instances so It was my last shift at work the

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one that I just worked not like the last one

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as a terminal one but the last one as in like

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one before a few days off. I was running some

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labs to the lab and then when I get back I see

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one of the trauma residents like hauling ass

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from the trauma from the trauma side of the hospital.

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uh toward the medicine side and when he gets

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to the medicine side he makes like a hard left

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and Then I was like there right there seems like

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that's something that I would want to be part

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of So I like walk real fast too because you never

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run in the ER So if you are new nurse and you

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don't know anything Or you're wanting to get

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into the ER and you're new to it You never run

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in the ER like never don't ever ever ever run

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Is a cardinal sin and you just don't do it. So

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I walk real real fast, right? I'm walking real

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real fast and He goes into room 36 now room 36

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is one of our big rooms and it is one of our

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like real big critical rooms we have like Two

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real big critical rooms in our emergency department

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on the medicine side room 41 because as you're

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coming down The EMS hallway from where the ambulance

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bay is at it literally dead ends right into the

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room right into the room so they can really like

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someone could be on the Lucas device and literally

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just haul ass all the way to the room and be

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in a big room a big critical room without having

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to make a single turn and then room 36 literally

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sits right beside the CT scanner and that particular

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room. Also holds a bunch of stuff and so you

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can literally come out of CT You can have like

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a bad some bad news on your CT got a bleed you

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got something going on and so you literally just

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wheel right next door to the to their to the

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critical room and so we get into 36 and they're

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doing compressions on this dude and He is actively

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fighting The tech that is giving him compressions

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like his legs are kicking up in the in the air

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he's bringing his knees up trying to knee her

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and the attending the ER attending and he's actively

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fighting the resident that is trying to intubate

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and gain an airway along with the respiratory

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therapist now. I walk in and I'm like, yeah,

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what the hell is going on? You know, stop compressions

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homeboys like he's alive. He's awake. You know,

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you're doing compression on someone who's awake.

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That's going to hurt like hell. And so no sooner

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than I said that, they called for a pulse check.

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And so when they called for the pulse check homeboys

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stopped moving altogether. He quit breathing.

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He quit moving. He quit fighting. And then on

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the monitor was a systole. Or if you're from

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a weird part of the world that calls it a system,

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I don't know who you are, but it's kind of weird

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than a system, but I'm calling it a system. So

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the monitor read a system and I was like, what

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the hell, you know? And so they were doing their

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pulse check, you know, they were doing ultrasound

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for cardiac activity. So on the monitor was guess

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what? Cardiac standstill. And and so we resumed

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compressions. It was a witnessed arrest. So under

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any other under any other circumstances, he would

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have been a candidate for ECMO. If you don't

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know what ECMO is, it's a really, really neat

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thing where they have a machine that kind of

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breathes for you like literally almost like a

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dialysis machine, but it will pull the blood

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out, oxygenate it and give it right back to you

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without. you needing your lungs. And there's

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a hospital here in the Houston area that specializes

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in lung transplants or not just long organ transplants

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like a transplantation hospital. And they do

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ECMO all the time. And so like those people are

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very familiar with ECMO, but down in the dirty

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ER, you know, because these ECMO these ECMO people

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love to tell us how dirty the ER is. and we're

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like we know it's the ER and they do the ECMO

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anyways so he was under any other normal circumstances

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he would be considered a candidate for ECMO but

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he ingested some sort of toxic chemical to get

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high off of we don't know what it was or at least

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I don't know what it is because I never stayed

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around long enough to figure out what it was

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that he took But it was definitely chemical induced.

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And they said that they found some psychedelic

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gummies in his pocket. So he might have just

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taken an assload of those and put them in this

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wonky state now. Back to the story is after the

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pulse check was done. Another tech hopped on

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the chest and started doing chest compressions

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and homeboys started fighting her again. You

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know, he brought his legs up, trying to knee

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her, fighting the bag mask, trying to take his

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hands and rip her off his chest, you know, by

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stopping the compressions, everything of the

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matter. So I was like, this is like weird as

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hell, you know. And the pulse check came two

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minutes later and he actually had some cardiac

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activity on the monitor this time, but it was

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not a shockable rhythm. And so they called for

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a round of Epi and another round of CPR and then

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this time I got on the chest and As I am doing

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compressions on this dude, um, and I'm a pretty

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good sized fella Um as I've been told I like

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I know my way around the gym and I know a way

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my round I know my way around a buffet table

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and I like a chicken nugget or two, you know

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and so I'm doing chest compressions on this dude,

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and he sets up 90 degrees sets up. I don't know

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how I don't know what the fuck possessed him

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to sit all the way up. But homeboy was sitting

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all the way up. The respiratory therapist tried

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to grab him and yank him down. The intubation

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failed because every time we do compressions,

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homeboy wakes up. So I'm kind of like doing these

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kind of calf ass compressions. like you're trying

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to do compressions against a wall but you are

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not facing the wall you are kind of perpendicular

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to the wall and so as soon as he stood like as

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soon as he sat up as soon as he sat up and the

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profusion to him stopped he like passed out again

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on the bed you know we resume CPR again and he

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came back to life actively fighting, fighting

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me, fighting the emergency physician, fighting

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the respiratory therapist, moving his head left

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and right to not get bagged. And and it was just

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a weird ass situation. And so I say during the

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CPR, I'm like, this is the weirdest fucking code

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I've ever been in. And sure as shit, like the

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the emergency physician called for a pulse check,

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or it was actually time for a pulse check, not

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the physician calling for it, but the it was

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time for a pulse check. And so the ER physician

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literally with his hand on the femoral without

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a active pulse, and no activity on the cardiac

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monitor said, as we all are aware, this is a

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very interesting case. And I don't know if he

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was being facetious about my comment about this

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being the weirdest fucking code I've ever been

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in or what, but that's what he said. And so a

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long story short, man, the guy did not make it,

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but we were able to knock them down with some

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ketamine and rock. They were going to go with

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a tommy date, but they changed it to ketamine.

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And so we hit him with a hundred megs or his

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ketamine Mike's or Meg's I think his mix I think

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his big so either way we hit him with a hundred

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of some it was either Mike's Academy and our

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Meg's Academy And we hit him with a hundred of

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it And then we hit him with the with the rock

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and then we were able to intubate him but I will

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say man like After we gave him the ketamine and

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after we gave him the rock Usually well like

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when I'm in trauma, you know, and we give a tomodate

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and ketamine But a tomodate and rock usually

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like that knocks and knocks them down pretty

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good pretty fast, right? and they don't move

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or whatever but this particular instance we hit

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him with a hundred of ketamine and then the rock

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I think it was like a Don't let me get you wrong

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on the rock. I think it was like 100 maybe a

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hundred and a hundred. I'm not sure But we hit

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him with the with the rock and. And he was it

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took him a while, so it took him about a good

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30 seconds for the drugs to take hold and kind

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of pull him down. And then we started working

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on them and then we weren't like we didn't have

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an issue with him fighting us then. But he. He

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he didn't make it and. Yeah, man, like I was

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just one of the weirdest cases that I think I've

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ever been a part of, especially like kind of

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like during a code. And for you guys that are

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interested in knowing what this shit is called,

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because it is legitimately a thing, apparently,

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it is called cardio pulmonary resuscitation induced

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consciousness, or CPR, I see, see prick, right?

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So it is a legitimate thing. I did not know it

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was a thing But apparently it only happens less

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than 1 % of the time So out of a thousand cases

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that you or a thousand CPRs that you're a part

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of only one Maybe not even one you will see So

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just put that in kind of perspective on how rare

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this is It was definitely something new to me.

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He was a young guy too. He was like in his 30s,

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40s. So whatever he ingested, he ingested enough

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to kill him because we weren't able to get an

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organized rhythm back. We were able to deliver

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one shock and that was all we were able to get.

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There were no other rhythms for that. The follow

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up with the ECMO stuff. He was not a candidate

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for ECMO because of the the toxication that he

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was under or the ingestion of that toxic substance.

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So he wasn't a candidate for ECMO. And the cardiologist

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didn't have anything else to add. The ER team

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didn't have anything else to add. The only thing

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that I was going to suggest if we were to get

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another cardiac rhythm that was shockable was

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DSS or double shock sequencing. If you're not

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familiar with what that is, I'm not sure how

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prevalent it is, but apparently it yields about

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32 % greater results, greater outcomes than just

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a single shock sequence. And there's no there's

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no benefit for a triple shock sequence so my

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understanding of DSS or double shock sequencing

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is that you will have two defibrillators at the

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bedside and you charge them up to the same the

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same voltage right so for our case it was like

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two sixty two something we'll just say 360 because

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that's a good even high number so we charge them

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up to 360. And and what you would do is you have

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two pads, you have the pads placed, you know,

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at the same spot, just kind of beside each other.

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And then you will deliver a shock, one shock,

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and then immediately after you hit the button

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on one defibrillator, you hit the button on the

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other defibrillator. And so it delivers like

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almost two simultaneous shocks. that are really

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close together. And apparently, according to

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the AHA, the double shock sequence will yield

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you a 32 % greater chance of good outcomes or

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better outcomes. Now, how prevalent that is,

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I don't know. But that right there is something

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to kind of keep in your back pocket. You have

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this new idea of double shock sequence or double

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shock sequencing. Now, Surprisingly, I did not

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learn about DSS or double shock sequencing in

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nursing school or in TNCC or ACLS or PALS or

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any other formal formal education. I actually

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learned it from you guys heard me talk about

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this company before this compendium company.

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It is a company out of Germany and they make

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pocket guides. That are a legitimate pocket size

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they're not like a pocket drug guide that is

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a thousand pages thick but it just happens to

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be you know, like a four by eight size No, they're

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like legitimate pocket size. They're about four

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four by eight Four by eight and they have like

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two three hundred pages in them or maybe even

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just a hundred pages Like I have the OB one rub

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beside me right now And it's one of the thicker

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ones that they've come out with, and it has 350

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pages. And it's about like an inch and a half

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thick. So it's a very, very compact size. But

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yeah, this company, Compendium, I was reading

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through the cardiology Compendium pocket guide,

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and I ran across DSS, the double shock sequencing.

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And I thought that shit was weird. I was like,

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I never heard of such. So I got on the Google

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like everyone else does. And I did a Google search

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on the interwebs and I found out that a that

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double shock sequencing is a legitimate thing.

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And B, it is highly effective. Now, some other

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weird shit that they have in the companion guide

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is like five percent saline. Like if you thought

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three percent was a lot. There's five in ten

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now. What the hell are you ever going to do with

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ten percent saline? I have no fucking idea or

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even five percent, you know because we hardly

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ever use three percent You know, we're closer

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to using man at all than using three percent

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saline And I'm just assuming because of the rapid

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fluid shifts that you're gonna get with that

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because like that right there is ridiculous But

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can you imagine like five percent or ten percent?

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I guess going to be like pushing like Coconut

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oil to the IV like it has to be like thick thick

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thick But either way ma 'am That right there

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is just like the weirdest like the weird case

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of that I have as of recent Not all of my stories

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are trauma. I do work in medicine actually quite

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a bit more so than I do in trauma, but but I

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do like to share the weird stories that I get.

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I do see a lot because I'm at the busiest level

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one trauma center in the United States, according

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to Google. And we are like a 1300 bed hospital.

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And the ER might like the ER work and can easily

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hold Easily like 160 patients, you know 60 There's

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like 60 beds and then you have a hallway For

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each that brings you up to 120 and then some

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of those Some of those hallways can be extended

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out two three fourfold So easily like 160 patients

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and the ER alone Um, and then, um, you know,

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it just opens a door for some weird shit to kind

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of come in the door. And so that right there

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was like the weirdest case that I have as a recent,

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uh, this, uh, CPR induced consciousness or C

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prick. Um, so it's a thing. Um, don't stop your

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compressions for some boy down and keep the per

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compressions going. because yeah he's not like

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he might look awake he might seem awake but he

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is not awake so keep doing your thing alright

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guys that right there is the weirdest that was

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like the weirdest case that I have as of recent

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keep on listening to the learning material and

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as weird shit keeps as weird shit keeps popping

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up at the ER I'll be letting you guys know alright

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peace out
