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I've hit record. Boom! We're back at it. Second

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time in a row. I don't know what I'm doing. Obviously,

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professional podcaster here. Man, that's going

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to be good. That's going to be fun to edit later.

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That's totally fine. We are back, yeti or not,

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here we come, investigating the weird and wild

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side of Western Washington. That's it. We're

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and get the bell on and all the YouTube stuff

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do all that exactly And so we're talking today

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about DB Cooper Yes, yes, and the money he took

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that's it. Just like you rock said look for answers,

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but that ain't fun Get in a pit try to hang your

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mom. I mean don't do that. That's bad I might

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have to edit that so as we were talking about

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before DB Cooper unique kind of to Western Washington

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folklore a Lot of people have heard of it now

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a whole lot of people know what it's all about

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and that's why we're here today to to solve that

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problem, okay, I know I've seen a Like a What

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the hell do you even call it? You know like you

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go to museum and it's set up with Like a museum

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exhibit? Yes. Yes. Like an exhibit. I've seen

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one. I don't remember where. Is it like the Ripley's

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Believe It or Not thing? It could have been.

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Do they have one? Maybe. Because I remember seeing

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it and there's a guy like as you go through the

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museum, you go walking through and then it's

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got a guy hanging in the trees somewhere. Oh,

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no. I remember first hearing about this. Remember

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that show Unsolved Mysteries? Oh, yeah. That

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was like one of my favorite shows. With that

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old guy from Airplane? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I remember

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as a kid watching that show and there was one

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about D .B. Cooper and that's what I first learned

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about as a kid. I know I've heard about it but

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I don't remember a lot of things and when you

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had mentioned D .B. Cooper I said oh that's where

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we're from man but is that something we want

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to go out and go look for or is that a dead end

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thing or? Do we just talk about it? And we I

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didn't remember to say anything about it. And

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here we are, we're just gonna talk about it.

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Yeah, yeah. And I think, like what like we're

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saying before, where would you even start? And

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that's kind of the whole point of the story.

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I have the legend, I wouldn't know where to start,

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because I'm locked in my mom's basement right

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now. And I'm not allowed to leave. Obviously,

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obviously, we are looking where we are in the

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dungeon. Exactly dungeon. So Should we we're

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ready to get into it. Let's get it cue up the

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music spooky music Check All right, here we go.

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All right on November 24th 1971 the day before

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Thanksgiving a man walked into Portland International

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Airport bought a one -way ticket in cash and

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boarded Northwest Orient Airlines flight 305

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a Boeing 727 headed to Seattle He looked completely

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ordinary mid 40s, dark suit, white shirt, black

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tie, sunglasses, carrying a briefcase and a paper

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bag. Yeah, I know what you're thinking right

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now. Sounds like a rancid song. Oh, I was going

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to say this sounds like men in black stuff. We

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were just talking about that. Yes. Well, it did.

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It started talking about the outfit he's wearing.

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And for some reason, it's like red shoe, black

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hats up Cadillac. Yeah, that was going in my

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head. But yes, we did also. Go look at that episode

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because that's a good one. I spent some time

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on that one. It's going to look a real step up

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in production. I think so. I think y 'all like

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it. All right. So paper bag. He gave his name

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is Dan Cooper. No one could have guessed what

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was going to come next. Shortly after takeoff

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around 3 p .m. Cooper passed a note to a flight

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attendant Florence Schaffner and it read I have

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a bomb in my briefcase. I will use it if necessary.

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Want you to sit next to me you were being hijacked

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straight to the point Okay, we'll just take a

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quick pause It just reminded me of something.

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Okay, so He handed him a note said I have a bomb.

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Mm -hmm are Is it the same thing as if they didn't

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have one or does it matter? I think in that case.

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It doesn't matter I think they're trying I saw

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back in the days to I was a bank teller for for

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a bank in Houston yeah, that's where I was Part

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of the train they tell you like if someone gives

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you a note across the if they're robbing the

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bank And they you'll might get a note saying

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hey I have a gun or I have a bomb or whatever

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like just assume that they're telling the truth

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and give them the money and let them Let them

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go you know don't like Don't find out the hard

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way well if they might be done with yeah, well.

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Oh, no you don't Prove me wrong. Do you admit

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you don't have it so like I imagine flight attendants

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probably on the same Level especially on an airplane

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that could be full of innocent people the guy

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says he's got his bomb You probably have to just

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assume roll of the truth and take it Yeah, assume

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he's telling the truth and you might have a bomb.

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So do he says yeah Well, I just there's been

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examples of that happening recently where everyone's

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talking about intent and all that Yeah, I would

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just say you know what the road to hell is paved

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with good intentions So your intentions don't

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really matter but they do I don't know where

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I'm going with it I don't even want to go down

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the political path of yeah, we get cancelled

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poopy Some things I don't know. I don't have

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any more alliterations for that. We'll just go

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back to the story Alright onward so she got the

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letter says all that stuff ends with you were

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being hijacked. She sat down He calmly opened

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the briefcase to reveal red cylinders sticks

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of what looked like dynamite Now it makes sense,

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and it was all wired up to like a battery and

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so it looks like a bomb smells like a bomb looks

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like a bomb Might be a bomb. If it wasn't too

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bad at this point, that's a bomb. And that's

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all there was, and there was nothing else in

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the briefcase. It was just this thing that looked

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like a bomb. I kind of remember this from that

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exhibit now, I think. Okay. His demands were

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simple, but very precise. $200 ,000 in unmarked

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$20 bills, which is about $1 .6 million today,

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and four parachutes. The plane would refuel in

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Seattle, then fly to Mexico City. No tricks or

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the bomb goes off. The crew relayed the message

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to the cockpit. Captain William Scott kept things

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calm, circling over Puget Sound for nearly two

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hours while authorities scrambled. The FBI artists

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rendering show a non -descript man with slicked

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back, dark hair, a narrow face, and that calm,

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almost polite demeanor. He smoked Raleigh cigarettes,

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drank bourbon, and even chatted with the crew

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about the weather and the plane itself. He seemed

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to know a surprising amount about the Boeing

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727. In Seattle, the plane landed at 5 45 p .m.

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Passengers released 60. I'm sorry, 36 of them

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walked off unaware until later how close they'd

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come to disaster. Just had a thought. OK, dangerous

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thing there. So they're just sitting there chatting

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and he's smoking away in the plane back in the

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day. You could smoke in the plane, man. I that's

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what I was thinking. It was like back then. They're

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like, oh, it's. It's fine. Who cares? Yeah pregnant

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ladies would smoke on a plane, dude. Well, what

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year was this? 70 Okay, 70 something what I say

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71, okay, cuz it okay. Yeah that that kind of

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makes sense cuz it's gonna say about 80s is when

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everything They flipped the pyramid upside down.

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I'm not smoking is bad for us smoking. Not good.

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So But just don't smoke it just shows you how

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different the world is with everything. It's

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true like Could this guy even get away with that

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kind of thing now? Well, he probably he would

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probably be like putting his in in there something

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that's dead Oh, it'd be like I said saying he

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smokes I don't I know I'm gonna I'm saying I'm

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gonna blow you up. I'm gonna put Yeah, so, you

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know, they don't want to get that second hand.

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Hey if I tells you he's got a bomb like let him

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get his fix and keep his steady hands man, like

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if anyone needs a nicotine satisfaction is that

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guy I guess that makes sense to me. So All right,

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so authorities delivered the ransom when when

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when they got to Seattle 10 ,000 $20 bills all

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with recorded serial numbers stuffed into a canvas

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bank bag They also brought four parachutes to

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Maine and to reserve Cooper inspected everything

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carefully He even cut up one parachute canopy

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to make makeshift harness for the money bag smart

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and methodical money bags. Yeah Then with just

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the pilot co -pilot flight engineer and one flight

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attendant left on the board Tina Oh, because

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he was already prepared. So he wanted four parachutes,

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though. Yes. Was that? I don't remember exactly,

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because, you know, I'm saying, oh, I remember

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things now. My memory is probably totally wrong.

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But if I'm thinking about it myself. I might

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throw some parachutes on somebody or just throw

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them out so people are looking for other things

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and not me in the parachute. Whatever it is,

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this guy obviously had a plan he'd been working

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on for a while. Apparently, when he got all that

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together and said, land here, we're going to

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go over here and confuse everything. All right,

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so around 8 p .m. Somewhere over the dark, rainy

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forests of southwestern Washington, something

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incredible happened. The plane's tail suddenly

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pitched up, a jolt the pilots felt and the airspeed

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had been, the air stair had been deployed. Tina

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Muklo from the cockpit saw Cooper tying the money

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bag to his body. Then he was gone. He jumped

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into the stormy night with $200 ,000 strapped

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to him and one of those parachutes. The crew

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felt the change in pressure. onto Reno as instructed

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and landed safely around 11 p .m. Cooper vanished.

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Nobody no parachute and no trace. The FBI launched

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one of the biggest manhunts in its history code

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named Norjak. Norjak. Yeah. OK. That's yeah.

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All right. It was a different time back then.

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I mean I think you could come up with something

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better but nowadays they'd get laughed at. I'm

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sure that'd be that'd be a funny one to hear

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them say on the news. That's what I'm saying.

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Yeah. What does that even mean. I don't know.

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So they scoured the rugged wilderness around

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Ariel, Washington, near the Washoogle and Lewis

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rivers, helicopters, ground teams, even soldiers

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from Fort Lewis, but they found nothing. But

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then nine years later, on February 10th, 1980,

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an eight year old boy named Brian Ingram was

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digging on an antenna bar, which is a sandbar

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along the Columbia River near Vancouver, Washington.

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So a good a good distance away. OK. So he went

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from Portland to Seattle. Yeah. And then said

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go to New Mexico? Uh -huh. But then I think he

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said he was going to go to Reno. That's when

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he jumped out somewhere in between. Yeah, okay.

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Well, okay, they'd have to at least go south,

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and it doesn't mean they're going to fly just

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directly to, you know, it's not how a fly path

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works, so however it makes sense. Yeah, that

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says too far off it kind of makes sense Southwestern

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Washington is when they felt the the tail the

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air stair get deployed. Okay, so oh air Stair

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like stairs so on that airplane On the back of

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it. There's a staircase that can lower in the

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very back like at the tail Okay, cuz you said

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air stair and I'm like, yeah, and so air stair

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Yeah, my brain just went air stair. No, no. Yeah,

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it's an actual staircase built in the tail of

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the airplane that lowers down and it can lower

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like that in mid flight. Yeah. Okay. So that

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kind of makes sense now that they're putting

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it together where they hold on. So this might

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make sense, right? Yeah. Okay. Where to leave

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off he found three the little kid now on the

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sandbar in the river there He found three bundles

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of rotting $20 bills totaling five thousand eight

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hundred dollars the serial numbers match the

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ransom money perfectly How did the money get

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there diet Tom's tiny which is tiny algae on

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the bill suggested? They had been in the water

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since springtime years after the jump theories

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exploded did Cooper down Did Cooper drown in

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the river did he bury it and die? or did he survive

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and lose part of the cash? The FBI investigated

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over 1 ,000 suspects, and some of them were big

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names. Richard McCoy Jr., a skydiver who pulled

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off an almost identical crime months later, but

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he had an alibi and didn't match the descriptions.

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Big names like, what was his name? Yeah, exactly.

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When I first read this, I was like, maybe not

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such big names. Big names like. Richard McCoy

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Jr., you know, old R McCoy. Oh yeah, old Rich.

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That is. So, okay, now we're getting into the

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realm of the theories of what happened, because

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my guess is they're not going to figure it out.

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No. Okay. No. Okay. All right. Kenneth Christensen

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was another suspect. He was a Northwest employee

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and a former paratrooper. Close, but the physical

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characteristics didn't match. And even wilder

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ones like Robert Rackstraw, a Vietnam vet or

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recent... Claims time to a family members and

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hidden parachutes Whatever. Yeah, so I don't

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know who any of those people were I but there's

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a list if there were big names list of people

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that were Really big time if we know any of these

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people or if any of these people are listening

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still alive Please drop us a comment. Let's know

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tell me I'm wrong. Yeah, tell me I'm wrong Onward

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new FBI files releases recently as 2025 show

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hundreds of tips hoaxes and even suspects in

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in a wheelchair. That's not us. Where we didn't

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do this. Wasn't us. Yeah, and that wheelchair

00:14:29.279 --> 00:14:32.360
one was probably quickly ruled out. Yeah. Particles

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on Cooper's left behind tie titanium and rare

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metals. All right. It just derails you for a

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second when you're like, what are you? What?

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Yeah. Particles on Cooper. They didn't find it.

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Oh, okay. Reading was hard. Exactly. Stay in

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school. That's it. Don't... Give it your best

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shot. Exactly. That's all I'm saying. But DNA

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from the tie, no matches, no fingerprints, no

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hints, nothing like that. I wouldn't think so.

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In 2016, the FBI officially suspended the active

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investigation. Resources better spent elsewhere,

00:15:06.720 --> 00:15:10.399
I guess. The case is cold, but not closed. Tips

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still sometimes come in. So what really happened

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to D .B. Cooper? And yes, that name came from

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a reporter's mistake. A mix up with a man named

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D .B. Cooper, who was questioned early on. The

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real hijacker was Dan. That was Dan Cooper, not

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D .B. Cooper. Yeah. OK, OK. So I was going to

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say that. Maybe look for the guy with the right

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name. Well, so they've been looking for the wrong

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name the whole time because I was like, I don't

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know. I wanted to say, like, I didn't say it.

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What the hell is D .B.? Decibels? I don't know.

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Decibel Cooper. But then they said Dan Cooper,

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right? Dan Cooper, yeah. Where did the B come

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from? Nobody knows. No idea. Exactly. So does

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this go on to theorize of what happened? Yeah,

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yeah. All right. So did he survive the jump?

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It was freezing rain, 200 knot winds, no proper

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gear over thick forest. And did he live out there

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for days and days or whatever? I don't know.

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Doubtful. Doubtful, I guess. Did he die on impact

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or from exposure? His body and most of the money

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were lost forever. Or is he out there somewhere,

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chuckling at how he pulled it off? How was the

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perfect crime? I don't know. The only unsolved

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commercial airline hijacking in U .S. history

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is this event. They solved them all. They did,

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except for that Malaysian airline. But you know,

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that was... That's not U .S. history. Exactly.

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That's that's Malaysian. That's world history.

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I don't even know where that plane came from.

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One thing is certain. D .B. Cooper didn't just

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steal money. He stole our imagination. A polite

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and calculated man who outsmarted everyone, jumped

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in the legend and disappeared. That sounds like

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that wraps it up. All right. See you guys later.

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Bye. Okay. Now that we got through a little bit

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of the history of it What do you think Happened

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I think I mean I really hope he got away with

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it and I think he did because I think a guy so

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a guy who Number one put all the thought into

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that New obviously research what he's doing He

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had the plane and the parachutes and he had the

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whole plan and and all that I'm guessing he was

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probably some sort of like military affiliation

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or veteran possibly at the very least. And coming

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from the time, like the military veterans from

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that time rolling off of like, you know, either

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World War Two or Korea or Vietnam. Those are

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different dudes, man. Yeah, those are hardcore,

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hardcore guys because soft times make soft men

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and those guys knew a thing or two for sure.

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And so anyone could have pulled it off. It'd

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probably be someone like that. And, you know,

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I would That's my guess. Okay. I would hope that

00:18:10.059 --> 00:18:12.799
he pulled it off because nobody got hurt, right?

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Yeah. Everybody landed. Everything kind of worked

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out. He stole some money. That's wrong. That's

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bad. Stealing is wrong. Stealing is not good.

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Stealing bad. But as a fun story. But parachuting

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is good? Parachuting is good. Smoking also not

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good. Not on airplanes. That's bad. Just use

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some zens or... You know, those coffee pouches,

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I kind of wanted to try those coffee pouches,

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but I just haven't. I would think it's a way

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more fun story to think, okay, he's maybe, I

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mean, at this point, he's probably passed on.

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Yeah. But how fun is that to think he just got

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away with everything and landed? But something

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in my head goes, I don't, I don't know, unless

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he's. And the amount too, $200 ,000. Why not

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a million? Why not $500 ,000? True. Why $200

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,000? Maybe that wouldn't fit in all the backpacks.

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Or how much he knew he could carry or something

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like that. Because obviously part of his plan,

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I would imagine, was he knew he was going to

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be in the woods hiking his way out at some point.

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Yeah. Well, I mean, we'd have to look it up,

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but he wanted all 20s. If you would have done

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hundreds, it would have been five times as much.

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Unless which it would have been an even million

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dollars and it would take up the same space Why

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why not maybe because 20s are more circulated

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Well, that's my guess there's more that they

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would like like fall into the circulation of

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money Yeah, that not everybody's looking for

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these hundreds. Mm -hmm You know, you might slip

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past those 20s easier. So yeah, maybe he thought

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all that out that much but then you know the

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weather wasn't good you got to jump out in the

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middle of nowhere i don't think the weather would

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have been a factor for him maybe not but like

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what if somebody's there to pick you up yeah

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what if because in that area there's a bunch

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of rivers and stuff in that area and like old

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logging roads and all that stuff you know yeah

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i mean there's plenty he very well could have

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had someone waiting out there to come scoop him

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up yeah Or not, because we don't know exactly

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where he landed. We didn't find all the stuff.

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Yeah. They only found just a little bit of money.

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Yeah. And so some kid found some of the money.

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Did it fly out when he was jumping out? I don't

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know. Maybe. Well, they said it had only been

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under water since like the springtime, and it

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was like nine years after the fact. Oh, okay.

00:20:53.509 --> 00:20:56.970
So they said it was like that much. Well, it

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could be anything. Yeah. He could have fell off

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of a hillside and tumbled down into a river,

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and it got carried down. Yeah, maybe that was

00:21:07.519 --> 00:21:09.500
some money that he handed off to his buddy for

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picking him up out in the middle of nowhere.

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Maybe he left it out there to be found to throw

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people off his trail. That's what I would have

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done. He went to four parachutes. What did he

00:21:21.339 --> 00:21:23.460
do? He went off to the dead homies, man. When

00:21:23.460 --> 00:21:25.920
you jump out and just... Throw them out there

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and see what happens. You know, grab a handful.

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Who knows? So maybe that maybe that bundle of

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20s had to die packing it or something. I don't

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maybe never know. I don't know. Did they even

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do that stuff in the 70s? I think so. I know.

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I don't know enough and we don't do enough research.

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But that doesn't really matter, does it? But

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I hope I hope he made it, man. I mean, yeah,

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kind of as a victim was crime, really. I mean,

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I don't want to. You know, stealing's bad. I

00:21:54.380 --> 00:21:56.259
don't know if it's the exact wording, but yeah,

00:21:56.299 --> 00:21:58.279
yeah, I get it. Like, it wasn't a violent crime.

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Like you said, no one got hurt, except for maybe

00:22:00.359 --> 00:22:03.940
him. Well, he might be dead, I don't know. But,

00:22:05.000 --> 00:22:06.460
yeah, I hope he made it, man. I hope he got away

00:22:06.460 --> 00:22:10.460
with it. I mean, that's our taxpayer money he

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stole. What a good story. Well, who did he demand

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the money from? Government the government. I

00:22:16.400 --> 00:22:18.400
don't know. Was it the airline or was it just

00:22:18.400 --> 00:22:20.680
anyone in general? I don't know. Well, how does

00:22:20.680 --> 00:22:22.519
that even work? You call the cops and just give

00:22:22.519 --> 00:22:25.240
me money money and then where do they get it?

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I don't know. I guess I guess yeah, it might

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be taxpayer dollars. I mean, I probably I don't

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know. So I mean that kind of sucks. We already

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get taxed enough as is maybe that's exactly he

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was getting it sticking it back to the man because

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Maybe yeah, he was just getting his comeuppance

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and getting it back to him. Yeah, he's a screw

00:22:44.079 --> 00:22:46.579
these guys and he was cashing out I don't know.

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Maybe that was his big plan for retirement. Maybe

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I don't know. Oh, man I feel like even back then

00:22:51.599 --> 00:22:53.640
though a million bucks wouldn't go that far.

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Well, it was 200 ,000 a million today Well, yeah,

00:22:57.640 --> 00:23:00.960
it's a lot of money, but a million doesn't really

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cover Okay a whole lot over a lifetime, you know,

00:23:03.759 --> 00:23:05.779
there we go. There there's a whole conspiracy

00:23:05.779 --> 00:23:10.549
in itself Okay, say that we decided to pull this

00:23:10.549 --> 00:23:14.349
off. We couldn't totally do that. We couldn't.

00:23:14.450 --> 00:23:16.410
We're too dumb. I'm way too overweight to be

00:23:16.410 --> 00:23:18.650
jumping at airplanes. Exactly. And you know,

00:23:18.650 --> 00:23:21.190
we're just too overweight. I'm too damn bald

00:23:21.190 --> 00:23:24.130
and too damn old. Yeah. And we're sitting here

00:23:24.130 --> 00:23:27.289
in a garage podcast and talking about things

00:23:27.289 --> 00:23:31.309
that, you know, are far more fantastical than

00:23:31.309 --> 00:23:33.609
anything we pulled off in our life. But if we

00:23:33.609 --> 00:23:36.950
did, and I think I'd ask for more than a million

00:23:36.950 --> 00:23:39.690
bucks. Yeah. Because you're going to get If you

00:23:39.690 --> 00:23:42.049
get caught, you're screwed, man. You're going

00:23:42.049 --> 00:23:43.690
away. You don't get nothing if you get caught.

00:23:43.829 --> 00:23:46.329
Yeah. So and then what am I going to do with

00:23:46.329 --> 00:23:48.289
a million dollars? The best thing I could do

00:23:48.289 --> 00:23:51.190
would be invest it in something. Yeah. So it

00:23:51.190 --> 00:23:53.390
can continue to pay me. But what am I going to

00:23:53.390 --> 00:23:56.630
do? I can't even open up a McDonald's with that

00:23:56.630 --> 00:23:58.609
or something. Maybe he because he wasn't. He

00:23:58.609 --> 00:24:01.150
said, well, I don't know, because he said Mexico

00:24:01.150 --> 00:24:03.690
City. He said, take me to Mexico City. But then

00:24:03.690 --> 00:24:06.930
he jumped out over Washington. Maybe if he planned

00:24:06.930 --> 00:24:08.109
to go to Mexico, the money would have gone a

00:24:08.109 --> 00:24:11.319
lot further. Well, yeah, it would but I don't

00:24:11.319 --> 00:24:13.460
think he would have like changed his mind changed

00:24:13.460 --> 00:24:16.960
his plan mid -flight Oh, yeah. No, i'm gonna

00:24:16.960 --> 00:24:20.900
do this instead. Maybe He was kind of like, uh

00:24:20.900 --> 00:24:23.559
walter white and he only had so long to live

00:24:23.559 --> 00:24:26.119
and he's just like, you know What I want a million

00:24:26.119 --> 00:24:30.640
bucks in today's money i'm going to mexico I'm

00:24:30.640 --> 00:24:33.980
just gonna go do all the cocaine and all the

00:24:33.980 --> 00:24:38.859
tequila at all. Yeah now Start a couple cartels

00:24:38.859 --> 00:24:41.220
now that that makes a little more sense to me

00:24:41.220 --> 00:24:43.799
like hey if he was Terminally ill or something

00:24:43.799 --> 00:24:47.640
just said, you know what? Okay, let's go. Let's

00:24:47.640 --> 00:24:53.500
go. Oh Man, that sounds fun, too though. So Exactly,

00:24:53.559 --> 00:24:57.779
that sounds like a great time Well, mr. DB Cooper

00:24:57.779 --> 00:25:00.200
if you're out there still or you know who he

00:25:00.200 --> 00:25:02.960
is or whatever man We'd love to talk to you about

00:25:02.960 --> 00:25:06.079
it. Yeah, call us up. Let us know and get a hold

00:25:06.079 --> 00:25:09.740
of Just find us on that social media stuff. It's

00:25:09.740 --> 00:25:12.740
everywhere Right everywhere. Yeah. Well, you

00:25:12.740 --> 00:25:14.920
know what that was probably good, right? Oh,

00:25:14.920 --> 00:25:19.339
it sounds good Thanks y 'all