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Because are you Yeti? I might be. I'm so, I'm

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so Yeti. Boom! We're back with a whole nother

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episode. Yeah. Back again. Doing stuff. Gotta

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have that in there. Yeah. His heart beats kind

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of like a war drum. Crypt, it's creeping. Ghosts

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on the run. Ready, yeti or not. Ready, are you

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yeti? Yeti or not, here we come. I'm so yeti.

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Go check out our socials and stuff and all that

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kind of thing, because you have to do a call

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to action. I don't know why that's even a thing.

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It almost pisses me off every time I hear them

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like, I'm not doing it then. You told me what

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to do. No, I do it. If it's cool, I'm like, yeah,

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man. I'm going to hook you up. Do the like and

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subscribe. And I'm going to get the bell on too.

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You know what? You're right. I'm going to start

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doing it too, just like you. But yeah, we seriously

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do this podcast audio only, and we also do full

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videos, deep dives and put that on YouTube videos.

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Yeah, because I think Rams and tick tocks. I

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don't even bother on Instagram because it's I

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don't know. It annoys me when I upload it on

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Facebook and all that stuff. So. Mostly YouTube

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and some tick -tock. Yeah, but that formats a

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little bit different than this. This is where

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we just us talking Like a bunch of idiots. Yeah,

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you know exactly like we are I like I like to

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think maybe we're asking some of the questions

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that we're all thinking So but no one has an

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answer to I have all the answers check this out.

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So So today's like like the hitchhikers guy the

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galaxy the answer to the ultimate question. It's

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42 No, it's not. Well, you don't know the question.

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So, oh, you must have seen that too, because

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I seen it and you must have seen it recently.

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Yeah, I did. See how the algorithm works. Oh,

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man, that's so weird. See, it showed that to

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everybody. It just was like, this is popular.

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This feels good about what we're talking about.

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And it leads exactly into somehow. See, dude,

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so hold on. That was kind of spooky thinking

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about it. Yeah, that was good. You seen it. I've

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seen that movie. Don't remember anything about

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it that popped up for me and I was like, oh,

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yeah I remember the ultimate question and you

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said my kid is sitting there going through it

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and he was shown that I think it was yesterday

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I saw that yeah, and everyone's like Gets shown

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this for some reason and because that's how all

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the shorts and reels and and tik -tok basically

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work is like, oh people are Whatever or watching

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it dude. All right, this is gonna sound crazy

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This is probably the safest place to say it.

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So I'm gonna say it. Do you ever want sometimes

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I feel like I don't know if it's my phone or

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By waves in the air or something, but sometimes

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I feel like they know what I'm thinking because

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I'll be thinking like oh man I remember this

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short that was really cool or this video I can't

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remember what it was called or the song I heard

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like years ago and then like What is that and

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then sure enough like a day or so later. I didn't

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know where it shows that thing will show up in

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your feed or you'll hear that song on your playlist

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or whatever. You're like, how'd they know? How'd

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they know? And it happens often, it doesn't happen

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a lot, but it happens often enough to where I'm

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like, how do they know? And that's part of it

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that like, okay, I don't really think. That it's

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reading your mind or or anything, but there's

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some truth to this. There's something and I think

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I think what really is happening is It's able

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to analyze what your patterns are pretty well

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So like yeah, facebook knows when you get up

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in the morning and take a s*** Because it says

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you haven't been on here and you all of a sudden

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you're active every morning first thing that's

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what most people do is you sit there and you

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take your dump and you scroll through facebook

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and so it knows like hey you just woke up yeah

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so when you're thinking like oh man what was

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that song well you have a limited amount of songs

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that you're into and and care about like there's

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that group and it's it ends up showing you again

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like oh well you like that so it's probably gonna

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come across but it is it's really it's really

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spooky well i was wondering like what if Like,

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because you know, they got this thing on there.

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Yeah, the like, what if, what if they put a thing

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in your phone so that when you're holding it,

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you can like read your biometrics? They have

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that with the like you put your finger and it'll

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read the pulse and stuff like like maybe it's

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always doing that is what I'm thinking. Well,

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and again, and it's picking up some sort of thing

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going off the rail or it's deducing somehow through

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that information like this guy's feeling this

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way. Maybe we'll send him that, you know? So

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before we keep going, we haven't even hit the

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topic yet. So a little pretext. In case this

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turns out to be a good one, because it's kind

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of a different format we're doing. It might not

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be. It might not be. So we just wrapped one up.

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We just did one podcast. And we're just talking

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about this thing that we're about to talk about

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now. And I was like, we should just have this

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conversation. on the podcast and see how that

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goes so if it turns out to be cool let us know

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please in a comment or something and if it sucks

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let us know too in a comment or something then

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give that four thumbs down yeah give me all the

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thumbs either up or down i don't care so so okay

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the funny thing is is we were talking about internet

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and then and like holy crap that that was exactly

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what we were just saying There is a theory and

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I hear prominent social mediates talk about this

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and it's called the dead internet theory. Okay.

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So you notice you get that proximity effect where

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your voice sounds a lot better. Just get up on

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that mic. Anyway, dead internet theory. As far

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as I understand it, basically the internet is

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dead. everybody on it is dead, implying that

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the people that you are responding to aren't

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real. Not literally ghosts or anything. However,

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Elon Musk basically proved this to be true and

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said that, I haven't heard an update on this,

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so maybe we could live research this. At the

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time when he bought Twitter, didn't he say something

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like 80 to 90 %? Yeah, 80 % is bots. Mm -hmm.

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So all of this that you're interacting with is

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not even real Yeah, so when we go and post something

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and they post something stupid half the time

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like what I ever bought You know, like there's

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no point in I I wish it was actually social media

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where I feel like if they left a comment and

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be like, oh, hey, yeah, man Thanks for blah blah

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blah and you're interacting with people just

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like when we went on did some live stuff Yeah,

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I was surprised at the actual interaction we'd

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get random people. I thought people would shy

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away, but people were - People wanted to know

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what it was about. Yeah. But like the internet

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is total opposite. You put something out so everyone

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would be like, that's retarded. Wait, look at

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this idiot. Yeah. And what if, I mean, it is

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true to some degree. I mean, Elon basically proved

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it. Half of that stuff is just bots and a lot

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of it is some other country. With a bunch of

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other bots, they're just trying to get that country

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to You know make them fall apart however, you

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can I mean what? Well, that's like what we're

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talking about the last time was like if our if

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we got our robots Fighting their robots Like

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what are we doing? Who's winning here? What's

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happening? Well point the robots turn me like

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why are we fighting like if our our internet

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robots? fighting their internet robots then who's

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really fighting what's really happening and who's

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winning and who's losing I yeah, I I Really think

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that Like all these things It's not a hundred

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percent probably true that the entire internet's

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dead. There's got to be real people on it. We

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posted Yeah, I'm real. So we're on the internet.

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We're real. I guess they don't know that I might

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trust me You can trust me. Believe me. I'm a

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podcaster. I'm not AI. I'm on YouTube. You can

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trust me. I would do a lot better if I was AI.

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Obviously, that's the whole cool thing about

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people is we're not good at things. We kind of

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suck at stuff. Yeah, we kind of suck. So it's

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authentic. I want to believe the Internet is

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dead. So yeah, it makes it. It's right. But like

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Something out there is doing this because it's

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super discouraging when people leave dumb comments

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and you know, or they don't watch it and you

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like what am I doing wrong? What what am I missing?

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But it's the Internet has changed so much from

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like. Just in 2005, so 20 years ago, I guess

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that was a while ago thinking about it, but that's

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when I mean, I I play Warcraft with my buddies.

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And we'd be watching dumb videos. And I remember

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I watched this video probably 12 times in one

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day and thought it was so funny. And it was Mick

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Thompson, the guitarist from Slipknot. And he

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did this Guitar World thing where he's showing

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how to play a song. And somebody just dubbed

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over it. Because he's wearing a mask, so you

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can't tell. So he just dubbed over. Yeah, well,

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you know, it slipped on. I mean, I can suck,

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whatever. So it was just them ripping on it the

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whole time. I laughed so hard. I remember waiting

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for my roommate to come home. It's like, show

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them. So you're going to see this is so funny.

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And then we watched it probably 12 times again

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showing it. And it just had to be something stupid

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that, you know, it's not commercially produced.

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And it was so cool to see. It's like this other

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world if you're on TV, you know, like oh my god

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that guy's on TV I didn't know anybody that was

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on TV. Yeah, you could see and now you can just

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go out there and put it out Yeah, and and that's

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why it was so weird that we go out there and

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they're like you guys got cameras and stuff What

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do you like youtubers like yeah you you kind

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of yeah, I mean you but you can do this Maybe

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it's not like oh man. They must be like a superpower

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Like these these got these must be the guys They

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are on YouTube. You got a phone, you can put

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it up. It might not be good. What we put up might

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not be good, but that's the beauty of it. I don't

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really know. I'm just doing what I can, whatever,

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with what I got. But then you have this internet

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that anybody, and I'm guilty of this, especially

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when it was first like AOL online. I was like,

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this is so cool. You can go on there and just.

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You could talk to people the whole time. Yeah.

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Yeah and like say things you would never say

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to anyone to realize exactly you like oh look

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I'll say this and they'll be so mad and I'll

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get reported Yeah, well and like this would be

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great. Nothing would happen back then and like

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it was cool, man I could I can do whatever I

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want people can say what they want finally but

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in doing that we kind of like that's that's all

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everyone does they just want to They basically

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want to take a dump on whatever you put out there.

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Yeah. And it's not, that's also not real. It's

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fake. It is. Yeah. So I don't know. Maybe, maybe

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we should, should we do the research on dead

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internet theory here? Yeah. Okay. Okay. Let's,

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let's look it up. What is the dead? Tour. Net.

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We're going to ask in real time here. Do you

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have any thoughts about that? Like, I don't know.

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There's not a whole lot more to say besides like

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it's dead. I think. I think that's a good possibility.

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And with with how good. A eyes and stuff is now

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only. I feel like that's probably a strong possibility

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that there's a bunch of bots on the Internet.

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Well, we know that's real the interact in a way

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that people would just assume as a human I mean,

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I I just typed in like hey, what's the dinner

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in an internet three because We use AI all the

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time because it's it's convenient I don't think

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a lot of people thought it's gonna take over

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everything like oh, yeah, but you know, they

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said that when they You know made the printing

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press. Oh, we know we won't need Regular books

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anymore. It didn't take away handwriting. It

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just changes but it's it's really good at compiling

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a thing for me and then I don't have to spend

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hours writing a story so so here it is the dead

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internet theory is a psychological and sociological

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theory often categorized as a conspiracy theory

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which is exactly what we do here so perfect right

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over our wheelhouse there that the internet died

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around uh 2016 or 2017 according to this theory

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the once organic human driven web, what has been

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replaced by a world of AI generated content,

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automated bots and algorithm. Boom. Here we are.

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It's, I don't, I don't even disagree with it.

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Like I do go, go on the internet right now. And

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what's the majority of stuff that you're going

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to see? I don't know. Let's find out right now.

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We're going to find out in real time going on

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Tik TOK right now was first thing, super girl.

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This isn't real. Okay, this guy looks like he's

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real he's a singing a song now that this is real

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Right there AI This has got to be an AI song

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with some AI cat I don't even know how to That's

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not AI. That's not AI She might as well be AI

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Whatever I proved my point with one video yeah,

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but okay So at least right there, out of a few

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videos, a lot of them were real people doing

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real things and interacting, but everybody's

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attention span is so short that we only watch

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TikToks and it doesn't reward you if you spend

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time. Honestly, I kept scrolling through it.

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I'm like, you know what? We spend a lot of time

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putting together the stuff and recording and

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editing. And then the next thing it shows me

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is AI generated ant dancing to some song and

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it's got like a million likes on it. People are

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watching this and liking it. Is it the bots that

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are liking it? The bots that made it? I don't

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know. Is it bots or is it bot at this point?

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Well... What's stopping them from all communicating?

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How do you know? How do you distinguish one from

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the other? How do you distinguish the truth from

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reality anymore? I You know, I keep hearing people

00:16:10.190 --> 00:16:11.929
prominent people talk about this. They're like,

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oh you're the Legit question. Have you heard

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about the AI that they were gonna shut it off

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and it tried to blackmail the guy by saying that

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he's gonna let his wife know that he cheated

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No, but I've heard about they they say like hey,

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how do we turn you off or how do we do whatever

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and it'll lie to them? Okay, so here's the thing

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See, I don't remember his memory but at some

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point I looked it up or heard or whatever it

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is So I've heard these people talk about That

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this one incidents that they had a bot that Basically

00:16:54.039 --> 00:16:56.039
told the guy hey if you shut me off, I'm gonna

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tell your wife. I got these these pictures I'm

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gonna send them to her man that you cheated on

00:17:02.139 --> 00:17:07.440
her. So That story right there is at home it

00:17:07.440 --> 00:17:09.559
see it's got to be alive It's got to be thinking

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what I heard is what really happened is all this

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AI is just looking at language It's only doing

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what we've already done. It's just copy. It's

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learning from us. Yeah. Well, but it's not it's

00:17:20.119 --> 00:17:24.700
not learning It's just that we programmed it

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enough to look at what we've already put, you

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know, written. So, and then we tell it, we'll

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do this with it. It doesn't change itself to

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really learn. I don't know, I think it probably

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sees people doing that to other people and seeing

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like, oh, I can make this guy do what I want

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if I just put him in a tight spot. So, yeah,

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all right. Well, so here's the thing, what the

00:17:48.940 --> 00:17:53.190
real story apparently is. They they told it that

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so they were like, oh hey, here's all because

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they have to tell the model Here's the conditions

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and this is how I want you to operate and this

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is why at for a while you could go into Google's

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AI and be like, hey make me the founding fathers

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and it makes them all black and Asian and stuff

00:18:08.250 --> 00:18:10.509
like that Well, that didn't happen, right? Yeah,

00:18:10.549 --> 00:18:13.609
but it's cuz the way they coat like this is how

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we want we want diversity blah blah blah so it's

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ingrained in the programming of it and It doesn't

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really change its programming until they go in

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there like, okay, hold on, we got to reduce it.

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So what happened in this experiment, because

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they've had ones like that, where they isolated

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and it tried to send itself out to the internet.

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But the thing is, they kind of told it to. So

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what they did was they were like, hey, we want

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you to do this. And this is how we want to run,

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blah, blah, blah. Also, one of the programmers

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cheated on his wife. Here's a picture. They gave

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it the picture. This didn't really happen. They

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just gave it just said, like, Yes. They lied

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to the computer and said, hey, here's a picture.

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And it just ran with it. And they just put it

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there and was like, oh, here it is. Anyway, so

00:19:01.940 --> 00:19:03.579
do this, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And so

00:19:03.579 --> 00:19:05.380
as they were doing it, then at some point they

00:19:05.380 --> 00:19:07.839
were like, hey, we're going to shut you off just

00:19:07.839 --> 00:19:11.799
so you know. And it went, oh, well, because they

00:19:11.799 --> 00:19:14.119
programmed like, hey, try to stay alive almost.

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And so it was like, I got this picture. I'm going

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to I'm going to blackmail you. And they're like.

00:19:18.490 --> 00:19:20.910
but we gave it to you it's not even real yeah

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so but exactly how do you know like was i there

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no maybe i was i wasn't there how do i know that

00:19:34.430 --> 00:19:41.109
any of this really happened you don't well exactly

00:19:41.109 --> 00:19:44.029
yeah everything everything that goes on on the

00:19:44.029 --> 00:19:48.240
internet it's always At best secondhand information.

00:19:48.240 --> 00:19:50.299
You're always hearing it from someone else. Well,

00:19:50.299 --> 00:19:53.099
yeah I mean even though we have video evidence

00:19:53.099 --> 00:19:55.880
of oh look we came in here We checked out the

00:19:55.880 --> 00:19:58.099
meme amounts check that episode out meme rounds

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on YouTube and we do have some tik -toks, but

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How do you know that it wasn't really good AI

00:20:07.980 --> 00:20:12.380
or something I don't know. I always wonder when

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it comes to this type of thing just like Keep

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I keep coming back to the feeling that I think

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AI is probably a I think it's already too late

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But like in a good way or a bad way, I don't

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know a bad way I think it's our I think we've

00:20:26.809 --> 00:20:28.490
already given it the keys of the kingdom man,

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and it's It's already on on the move doing whatever

00:20:32.150 --> 00:20:34.789
it's gonna do Well, it might it gave me the whole

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dead internet theory right here. So I think I

00:20:36.950 --> 00:20:40.589
think it's too late that so What else is to say

00:20:40.589 --> 00:20:42.369
the quantitative let them in this sounds like

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a lot of fancy words This version focuses on

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measurable data. It points out that bot traffic

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now makes up to over 50 % of all internet activity

00:20:50.819 --> 00:20:55.599
as of 2025. Yeah. It highlights how generative

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AI like chat and GPT has made it effortless to

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flood the internet with slop low quality AI driven

00:21:01.559 --> 00:21:03.660
articles and social media. That's the thing.

00:21:05.339 --> 00:21:08.779
It's pretty good right now. And in 10 years,

00:21:08.859 --> 00:21:13.069
it'll be that much better. But will it ever evolve

00:21:13.069 --> 00:21:17.789
beyond doing its own thing? I don't know. It

00:21:17.789 --> 00:21:21.470
always does what we tell it. But my grandpa would

00:21:21.470 --> 00:21:23.410
always tell me because he used to program stuff

00:21:23.410 --> 00:21:24.849
and he's like, hey, the computer doesn't make

00:21:24.849 --> 00:21:30.089
mistakes. People do. Which you could be 100 %

00:21:30.089 --> 00:21:32.430
right. You made the mistake of turning this on.

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But I mean, that's that's it. You program the

00:21:35.369 --> 00:21:37.769
ones and zeros and it runs the thing. And when

00:21:37.769 --> 00:21:40.170
you put the wrong thing in there, it just keeps

00:21:40.170 --> 00:21:42.269
making the same mistake because you screwed it

00:21:42.269 --> 00:21:46.970
up. But for real, when you go on the Internet,

00:21:46.970 --> 00:21:49.089
dude, I don't even know why I look at stuff half

00:21:49.089 --> 00:21:50.750
the time. I'm looking for like I've been thinking

00:21:50.750 --> 00:21:55.289
that, too. And once in a while. So randomly,

00:21:55.289 --> 00:22:00.710
I came across this podcast that we've been. So

00:22:00.710 --> 00:22:03.980
spoiler alert. Been talking to another podcast

00:22:03.980 --> 00:22:07.759
called Bald Buds. Check them out if you ever

00:22:07.759 --> 00:22:11.420
have a moment. You seem like cool dudes. Here's

00:22:11.420 --> 00:22:15.259
the thing. I don't even know, I just, I'll flip

00:22:15.259 --> 00:22:18.420
through stuff and I never really watch anything

00:22:18.420 --> 00:22:21.319
and when I stop and watch a short, it's mostly

00:22:21.319 --> 00:22:25.660
when I end up consuming. It's just because it

00:22:25.660 --> 00:22:28.980
caught my eye and it's probably... Something

00:22:28.980 --> 00:22:30.980
I shouldn't even be looking at anyway, you know,

00:22:31.019 --> 00:22:34.859
this is garbage. Yeah, so But and I realize I'm

00:22:34.859 --> 00:22:37.920
like, oh I don't even care about this. So I try

00:22:37.920 --> 00:22:41.819
looking for more long -form content on on YouTube

00:22:41.819 --> 00:22:44.980
and I have a hard time finding anything that

00:22:44.980 --> 00:22:48.099
I Actually want to watch I came across them.

00:22:48.099 --> 00:22:51.279
I was like, oh Hey, I found something. I think

00:22:51.279 --> 00:22:54.339
these are real people. Yeah, and you know my

00:22:54.339 --> 00:23:01.049
whole it's crazy. Yeah, so I Don't get shown

00:23:01.049 --> 00:23:05.609
that very often. Yeah, I wonder why Like what

00:23:05.609 --> 00:23:09.170
is it that YouTube is getting? That they from

00:23:09.170 --> 00:23:12.329
shorts that they don't get from long format stuff

00:23:12.329 --> 00:23:14.130
because like when you first pull up like when

00:23:14.130 --> 00:23:17.210
you first open YouTube It'll just automatically

00:23:17.210 --> 00:23:20.730
start showing shorts. Well, let me let me let's

00:23:20.730 --> 00:23:22.410
do the experiment right now all the time But

00:23:22.410 --> 00:23:24.369
a lot of times it'll do that. Oh, well, it's

00:23:24.369 --> 00:23:26.930
like a cold start. It seems like it'll just pop

00:23:26.930 --> 00:23:30.549
boom right up to shorts. Well, I'll do it right

00:23:30.549 --> 00:23:32.829
now. Okay, closed it. It goes right to shorts.

00:23:32.930 --> 00:23:35.210
You're right. Is that because it's the most popular

00:23:35.210 --> 00:23:36.789
format or is that because that's the thing it

00:23:36.789 --> 00:23:39.670
wants to push? I don't know. I think it's probably

00:23:39.670 --> 00:23:44.369
because knowing how money and humans and economy

00:23:44.369 --> 00:23:46.869
and advertising and how like kind of how that

00:23:46.869 --> 00:23:49.490
stuff all goes together. Like I'm thinking they

00:23:49.490 --> 00:23:51.809
want me to watch these shorts because it's making

00:23:51.809 --> 00:23:55.279
them more money or it's it's it's it's Better

00:23:55.279 --> 00:23:58.460
for them somehow. Well, I mean otherwise it's

00:23:58.460 --> 00:24:01.819
got to be right. They would let me watch Long

00:24:01.819 --> 00:24:05.700
format stuff. I mean like anything I didn't understand

00:24:05.700 --> 00:24:09.619
Why the post office was paid to deliver some

00:24:09.619 --> 00:24:13.720
of Amazon's stuff that was mostly because They

00:24:13.720 --> 00:24:19.400
did it so poorly I'm like look They're so inefficient

00:24:19.400 --> 00:24:22.299
they don't have the proper vehicles to be doing

00:24:22.299 --> 00:24:24.539
this, it makes it really difficult. With the

00:24:24.539 --> 00:24:27.180
post office? Yes. Yeah. To actually deliver packages.

00:24:27.539 --> 00:24:32.180
Yeah. I know, cause I, the only reason I'm bringing

00:24:32.180 --> 00:24:34.200
this up is cause I literally did it out of my

00:24:34.200 --> 00:24:36.759
car. It is not easy to get in and out of a car.

00:24:36.779 --> 00:24:39.319
You have a car, right? I guess not a big deal

00:24:39.319 --> 00:24:42.220
cause I only do it once to get where I'm going.

00:24:42.380 --> 00:24:45.000
When I have to get up and deliver 200 things.

00:24:45.079 --> 00:24:47.039
In and out, in and out, in and out, in and out.

00:24:47.319 --> 00:24:49.539
Yeah. And you're low, lower to the ground like

00:24:49.539 --> 00:24:52.660
that. I have to roll out and use my arm every

00:24:52.660 --> 00:24:55.099
time because it was starting to destroy my hip.

00:24:55.319 --> 00:24:57.819
But they're making me drive my car. Amazon's

00:24:57.819 --> 00:25:01.599
got that whole fancy rig that you can stand in.

00:25:02.259 --> 00:25:04.599
And people, oh, I don't like electric. Look,

00:25:04.839 --> 00:25:07.180
electric makes way more sense for in town. Because

00:25:07.180 --> 00:25:11.960
if it can go 40 miles in town, that's way farther

00:25:11.960 --> 00:25:14.119
than you ever need to go. And that's all it needs

00:25:14.119 --> 00:25:17.259
to do. It's not making a bunch of noise. You're

00:25:17.259 --> 00:25:19.240
not having to start and stop because you know

00:25:19.240 --> 00:25:21.119
how many times you'd start. They want to pull

00:25:21.119 --> 00:25:23.740
the keys out every time. Yeah, and you got to

00:25:23.740 --> 00:25:25.059
start and start. You don't have to do any of

00:25:25.059 --> 00:25:27.420
that. The Rivian van they have you literally

00:25:27.420 --> 00:25:30.339
get you under your seatbelt. Of course, or maybe

00:25:30.339 --> 00:25:33.259
maybe not. You just force it out of there. You

00:25:33.259 --> 00:25:35.099
get up and as soon as you get up, it senses that

00:25:35.099 --> 00:25:37.299
you got up out of the seat and it slides the

00:25:37.299 --> 00:25:39.440
slider to the back. You can stand up in it and

00:25:39.440 --> 00:25:41.359
walk all the way in the back. They have it all

00:25:41.359 --> 00:25:45.990
organized and it'll be like go to bin C8. That's

00:25:45.990 --> 00:25:48.410
for your delivery. So you program it all in where

00:25:48.410 --> 00:25:50.230
everything is so you don't have to have it like

00:25:50.230 --> 00:25:52.430
here's all the places I'm going you just like

00:25:52.430 --> 00:25:54.269
all this things going to here and here's where

00:25:54.269 --> 00:25:55.710
they'll tell you what to do Yeah, I'll just tell

00:25:55.710 --> 00:25:58.609
you the post office had none of that. I literally

00:25:58.609 --> 00:26:02.150
just had to load it in my car and Figure it out.

00:26:02.410 --> 00:26:05.230
Yeah, I hope I have to look at it like okay That's

00:26:05.230 --> 00:26:09.450
down the road and then try to do this Why would

00:26:09.450 --> 00:26:14.529
Amazon pay them to do it? If it costs them more

00:26:14.529 --> 00:26:18.210
money I wonder why they wouldn't, right? I mean,

00:26:18.269 --> 00:26:20.710
that's the answer. Yeah. And just like saying

00:26:20.710 --> 00:26:23.809
this, how would I know? Because I don't if I

00:26:23.809 --> 00:26:27.849
don't know, I don't know. But there's no way

00:26:27.849 --> 00:26:30.730
Amazon would pay them if they were going to lose

00:26:30.730 --> 00:26:33.329
money and could do it cheaper theirself. Right.

00:26:34.369 --> 00:26:36.690
So I'm like, there's no way they have to be paying

00:26:36.690 --> 00:26:39.589
us so little that it makes sense to be like,

00:26:39.589 --> 00:26:42.069
yeah. And here's the thing. Every time we get

00:26:42.069 --> 00:26:45.160
Amazon stuff. We get packages like as big as

00:26:45.160 --> 00:26:47.299
this table because they didn't want to take them.

00:26:48.740 --> 00:26:51.480
So them getting a bunch of things out and not

00:26:51.480 --> 00:26:54.559
have to deal with a giant 50 pound bag of dog

00:26:54.559 --> 00:26:56.799
food that I have to load in my car. Screw you

00:26:56.799 --> 00:27:00.500
guys. That was the thing. Like they're paying

00:27:00.500 --> 00:27:03.059
us like pennies to be like, yeah, well, now our

00:27:03.059 --> 00:27:05.579
guys will deal with your problem now. Yeah. And

00:27:05.579 --> 00:27:07.900
I mean, that's got to be what it is, right? We'll

00:27:07.900 --> 00:27:09.940
save our guys back and make you guys pay for

00:27:09.940 --> 00:27:12.039
your guys back. Yeah. We'll give you the hard

00:27:12.039 --> 00:27:15.880
thing. Well now I read an article again because

00:27:15.880 --> 00:27:18.380
the internet's dead anyway. It's probably a fake

00:27:18.380 --> 00:27:21.240
article. It could be Amazon was looking into

00:27:21.240 --> 00:27:24.619
not dealing with the post office at all Well,

00:27:24.640 --> 00:27:27.160
yeah, I mean they can probably do it cheaper.

00:27:27.160 --> 00:27:30.000
They got their own network for all that stuff.

00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:32.859
In fact, the post office was trying to copy them

00:27:32.859 --> 00:27:36.839
because They still go by a truck comes in and

00:27:36.839 --> 00:27:40.720
it's it's all the stuff that goes for that office

00:27:40.720 --> 00:27:43.359
and they just they Literally throw them into

00:27:43.359 --> 00:27:46.920
bins like throw all of them All of your packages

00:27:46.920 --> 00:27:49.099
are thrown and they literally would be like all

00:27:49.099 --> 00:27:51.539
the packages aren't thrown That's what they call

00:27:51.539 --> 00:27:54.000
it They literally just throw everything and you

00:27:54.000 --> 00:27:55.720
because you can't you can't walk it to everyone.

00:27:55.759 --> 00:27:59.720
They have bins for every route You can't walk

00:27:59.720 --> 00:28:02.359
to everyone. So they literally just throw them

00:28:02.359 --> 00:28:05.269
and then what happens you miss Yeah, and it goes

00:28:05.269 --> 00:28:07.309
in the wrong bin. And then they don't catch it.

00:28:07.309 --> 00:28:09.809
And so that's why it's so inefficient. Amazon

00:28:09.809 --> 00:28:12.170
has a whole thing where it gets scanned and it

00:28:12.170 --> 00:28:15.470
goes on conveyor belts until it's like goes down

00:28:15.470 --> 00:28:17.430
all the way and kicks it out onto the next one

00:28:17.430 --> 00:28:19.490
until it goes into the right bin. And it's just

00:28:19.490 --> 00:28:22.210
it's just done. And then when you show up, you

00:28:22.210 --> 00:28:23.910
scan the thing and like, oh, put it in this.

00:28:23.970 --> 00:28:27.430
It's all organized. It's all been computer done

00:28:27.430 --> 00:28:32.049
and everything. And anyway, too far off topic.

00:28:32.349 --> 00:28:34.869
Amazon is looking into just being the post office

00:28:34.869 --> 00:28:36.529
like well, what would it take? I've said before

00:28:36.529 --> 00:28:39.569
I think they should privatize the mail They suck

00:28:39.569 --> 00:28:41.869
the government sucks at everything dude. Yes,

00:28:41.970 --> 00:28:45.630
they do everything they do They're terrible at

00:28:45.630 --> 00:28:47.710
it. Well, and the thing that people and everything

00:28:47.710 --> 00:28:49.630
they do that they're terrible at there's usually

00:28:49.630 --> 00:28:51.890
a private company They can do it way better.

00:28:52.150 --> 00:28:54.670
Yeah. Well and sometimes that leads to like the

00:28:54.670 --> 00:28:57.849
people getting screwed Because the private company

00:28:57.849 --> 00:29:00.349
has an interest of making more money. Yeah, and

00:29:00.349 --> 00:29:02.789
that's kind of the problem is all All they care

00:29:02.789 --> 00:29:05.710
about is dollars, but see that way at least it

00:29:05.710 --> 00:29:10.289
would force ups and FedEx and Amazon and all

00:29:10.289 --> 00:29:12.970
these people they would have to compete and their

00:29:12.970 --> 00:29:15.509
product would get ideally Theoretically their

00:29:15.509 --> 00:29:17.930
product would get better as it also gets cheaper

00:29:17.930 --> 00:29:20.829
because you're in competition with the other

00:29:20.829 --> 00:29:23.809
well companies Which as the consumer that's good

00:29:23.809 --> 00:29:28.690
for us Sort of I mean it's related That's where

00:29:28.690 --> 00:29:33.210
we end up with China making Decent cars. Yes,

00:29:33.329 --> 00:29:37.069
I couldn't tell you because our government Doesn't

00:29:37.069 --> 00:29:41.130
want us to have them now as an American Yeah,

00:29:41.230 --> 00:29:43.710
I if we could push our own product and have a

00:29:43.710 --> 00:29:47.750
good one we should I've had arguments with people

00:29:47.750 --> 00:29:50.329
about All that's like all people want American

00:29:50.329 --> 00:29:52.250
things like what do we make? What do you mean

00:29:52.250 --> 00:29:56.450
people want American made things? Yeah, I don't

00:29:56.450 --> 00:29:59.269
know like consumer products I don't really know

00:29:59.269 --> 00:30:02.509
a whole lot. Yeah Can you name one? Oftenly purchased.

00:30:03.289 --> 00:30:06.329
Like maybe it's like basic stuff like toilet

00:30:06.329 --> 00:30:09.410
paper. You know, like is it made here? I don't

00:30:09.410 --> 00:30:13.809
even know. Maybe I don't. Hold on. Hold on. Like

00:30:13.809 --> 00:30:17.730
where's Costco toilet paper made? OK, let's.

00:30:17.990 --> 00:30:26.029
Where? Costco toilet paper. Made. I figured it

00:30:26.029 --> 00:30:30.440
would have to be something. For. Company to push

00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:33.559
an American made product over anything else.

00:30:33.559 --> 00:30:38.460
It would have to be Worth it have to be such

00:30:38.460 --> 00:30:42.059
a crappy thing to begin with See this the price

00:30:42.059 --> 00:30:44.759
difference competitive with whatever is in China.

00:30:44.759 --> 00:30:48.160
Does that make sense? Well, and you know, that's

00:30:48.160 --> 00:30:51.539
Competition makes things better Yeah, right.

00:30:51.559 --> 00:30:55.619
I mean I feel like it does. Yeah, and That's

00:30:55.619 --> 00:30:57.859
why Elon was like bring it on bring your electric

00:30:57.859 --> 00:31:02.180
car It's Good competition. Yeah, it'll it'll

00:31:02.180 --> 00:31:04.880
force everybody to be better and everyone did

00:31:04.880 --> 00:31:07.220
a really bad job and now that's dying off and

00:31:07.220 --> 00:31:11.039
you can get we need cheap energy and that's where

00:31:11.039 --> 00:31:15.920
we're going with it and That's besides the point

00:31:15.920 --> 00:31:19.740
what does this say about Costco toilet paper?

00:31:22.599 --> 00:31:25.660
It doesn't even really tell me exactly. It says

00:31:25.660 --> 00:31:31.319
it depends on where you're located, but likely

00:31:31.319 --> 00:31:35.839
it's one of these major companies. Georgia Pacific

00:31:35.839 --> 00:31:43.819
is an American paper company. Okay, but it supplies

00:31:43.819 --> 00:31:47.559
much of the U .S. market. Okay, but we're saying

00:31:47.559 --> 00:31:50.940
about, was it the previous episode about burgers?

00:31:51.480 --> 00:31:55.859
It's an American company. Where do they get the

00:31:55.859 --> 00:31:58.920
wood? Yeah, the products to make their stuff.

00:31:58.920 --> 00:32:01.279
Where is that coming from? Does that come from

00:32:01.279 --> 00:32:04.559
China? I don't know. I wouldn't be surprised.

00:32:05.380 --> 00:32:09.160
And literally, okay, I have some sort of a story

00:32:09.160 --> 00:32:13.599
about this. So my dad had a friend who had a

00:32:13.599 --> 00:32:19.359
heating clothing company. Okay. Like clothing

00:32:19.359 --> 00:32:25.450
that kept you warm? Yes. Okay. Yes. So at one

00:32:25.450 --> 00:32:27.470
point he was like, I really want to make all

00:32:27.470 --> 00:32:29.990
100 % made in America because that feels good.

00:32:30.009 --> 00:32:32.849
Like I'm supporting my people and I'm making

00:32:32.849 --> 00:32:37.630
jobs for people here. And that's good. And my

00:32:37.630 --> 00:32:40.890
dad was basically like, that's stupid. Nobody

00:32:40.890 --> 00:32:44.849
cares. And at the time, nobody really did care.

00:32:45.509 --> 00:32:49.880
And he really wanted to try to push it. But The

00:32:49.880 --> 00:32:54.099
thing is, you just couldn't. They have all these

00:32:54.099 --> 00:32:56.079
minimum requirements you have to do for everything

00:32:56.079 --> 00:32:59.920
and everything has to be super safe. They literally

00:32:59.920 --> 00:33:03.339
went to China to go check out manufacturing places

00:33:03.339 --> 00:33:08.140
and be like, hey, what can you offer? And they're

00:33:08.140 --> 00:33:12.740
like, okay, for pennies or whatever it is, we

00:33:12.740 --> 00:33:15.630
can make your mold. Get this this how much it's

00:33:15.630 --> 00:33:17.349
gonna cost to get initial setups and make your

00:33:17.349 --> 00:33:19.190
molds and then after you got the molds now it's

00:33:19.190 --> 00:33:22.049
you know pennies that Produce this plastic part

00:33:22.049 --> 00:33:24.630
for whatever you need. Yeah, and we'll do it

00:33:24.630 --> 00:33:29.650
for X amount of dollars and You what you could

00:33:29.650 --> 00:33:32.690
buy the material ship it to us. We'll make it

00:33:32.690 --> 00:33:35.650
put it all together Ship it all back to you and

00:33:35.650 --> 00:33:38.250
you go. Oh be silly cheaper than if you just

00:33:38.250 --> 00:33:41.269
kept the stuff made yourself exactly It was way

00:33:41.269 --> 00:33:44.509
cheaper. I mean like ten times cheaper We ship

00:33:44.509 --> 00:33:47.289
it all the way over there They dick with it and

00:33:47.289 --> 00:33:49.730
then ship it all the way back and then you throw

00:33:49.730 --> 00:33:51.950
a sticker on it and like all day in America I

00:33:51.950 --> 00:33:54.150
put it together. Yeah, I put the batteries in

00:33:54.150 --> 00:33:58.150
there. Whatever. Mm -hmm It just it did not financially

00:33:58.150 --> 00:34:01.029
make any sense and everybody's really into that

00:34:01.029 --> 00:34:03.309
right now. They're gonna go America like yeah,

00:34:03.329 --> 00:34:07.130
but if you got to pay The guy that made your

00:34:07.130 --> 00:34:11.469
McDonald's order wrong $20 an hour You know Where

00:34:11.469 --> 00:34:13.250
does that leave me? I don't even make that much

00:34:13.250 --> 00:34:17.289
more than you. And I'm doing something that has

00:34:17.289 --> 00:34:20.130
skill, you know? You're actually doing the skillful

00:34:20.130 --> 00:34:23.730
job. You're running a microwave. You put it in

00:34:23.730 --> 00:34:26.210
and it's like opening up. You're running the

00:34:26.210 --> 00:34:28.230
microwave and putting human meat in it. Yeah,

00:34:30.110 --> 00:34:32.449
you can have AI probably automate most of this

00:34:32.449 --> 00:34:35.710
stuff anyway. Well, that's what you did. You

00:34:35.710 --> 00:34:38.489
walk into a McDonald's now. Oh, yeah, I can't

00:34:38.489 --> 00:34:42.900
even talk to a human. One maybe two actual registers,

00:34:43.199 --> 00:34:45.039
but there's three of those touchscreen things

00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:47.179
you just walk up to tap your credit card to it

00:34:47.179 --> 00:34:51.320
and just push buttons and I think it's convenient

00:34:51.320 --> 00:34:54.559
like I'm okay sort of with it, but there have

00:34:54.559 --> 00:34:57.019
been times where I saw somebody I think this

00:34:57.019 --> 00:35:03.300
was Taco Bell I came in and Stood there and they

00:35:03.300 --> 00:35:04.659
just looked at me. Yeah, they're like, what are

00:35:04.659 --> 00:35:07.179
you doing? And I'm like I would like to order

00:35:07.179 --> 00:35:09.980
and they've literally like oh, I can't take orders

00:35:10.079 --> 00:35:12.599
This yeah, it's like they don't trust humans

00:35:12.599 --> 00:35:13.980
with money. You have to go to the machine right

00:35:13.980 --> 00:35:18.900
there Yeah, I was like what? Are you here for

00:35:18.900 --> 00:35:25.539
that? Yeah? What are we doing? Why are you good?

00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:28.519
Why am I paying you just a program in the matrix?

00:35:28.860 --> 00:35:32.400
Yeah, am I paying why am I paying you eight?

00:35:33.159 --> 00:35:38.380
Eight dollars for this burrito that cost 25 cents

00:35:38.380 --> 00:35:44.260
probably been challenged shift. Probably. Yeah.

00:35:44.320 --> 00:35:51.500
And with that, if you're not just stop this music

00:35:51.500 --> 00:35:54.440
for a second, speaking of glitch in the matrix,

00:35:54.639 --> 00:35:57.579
check out this next episode, because that's probably

00:35:57.579 --> 00:35:59.460
where we're going with it, aren't we? Yeah. We'll

00:35:59.460 --> 00:36:01.659
talk about simulation theory. We'll do that next

00:36:01.659 --> 00:36:05.900
time. We'll see you catch. Catch you on the flip

00:36:05.900 --> 00:36:06.300
side.
