Hi everybody, welcome back to Fiddle Dee Dee
after a very long hiatus. I hope you had a very
Merry Christmas or whatever holiday you celebrate
and a Happy New Year today, which is when I'm
recording this. I got a brand new microphone
for Christmas. So I'm testing that out. So please
bear with me as I figure out this fancy schmancy
contraption I now own. My sister is so nice.
I asked for a microphone for Christmas and she
does not even know I have a podcast or anything,
but she didn't ask me why. She just got me a
microphone. So now I have that and hopefully
the sound quality is better. I also bought myself
a present. I got the Gone With The Wind 70th
Anniversary set on eBay. Obviously, it came out
when the movie turned 70 years old. And so far,
it is so worth it. It is so cool. It has five
discs, including the movie on two of them. And
then the other three have like several movies
on them. There's one about Clark Gable, one about
Vivian Leigh, one about 1939 year in Hollywood.
one called the scarlet o 'hara war which i should
make an episode about one day because that's
an interesting movie um it has a bunch of different
interviews with actors from the movie and also
the restoration process of keeping the movie
looking really great after all of these years
which was so interesting and actually my favorite
thing that i watched So it's been so worth it
so far, and it also came with a lot of different
little keepsakes and memorabilia. So I've been
having fun with that. They really went all out
for the 70th anniversary. I looked up the 75th
anniversary set, and it looks like they had almost
nothing to do because the 70th anniversary had
all of the cool exclusive content already. But
I kind of want to buy that one too. If you have
no idea what I'm talking about, you should really
Google these two sets because... They are really,
really awesome for anybody who's a fan. And I
think that you should probably buy yourself one
because I'm having a really good time. So let
me know if you got any cool Gone with the Wind
presents for Christmas or whatever holiday you
celebrate. My New Year's resolution is to make
more episodes this year. Like I said, I know
it's been quite a long hiatus. There have been
all sorts of reasons for that, but I'm planning
on recording a bunch of episodes in one go and
then queuing them for once a week, so you should
get an episode once a week from this point on.
With that said, let's get into our first... Topic
of the new year. And it's just kind of going
to be a fun one. Not really anything serious
or really in depth. It's going to be about the
moral alignments of the different characters
in the book. Now, Gone with the Wind is all about
moral alignments. If you don't know what I'm
talking about, I am going to be using the, I
don't know what it's called, but it's the alignment.
thing that the people who make Dungeons and Dragons
created to create characters and there are two
basic components to it there's good versus evil
and law versus chaos so we're going to be talking
about what both of those are and the two different
spectrums and then we're going to kind of talk
about where the different characters in the book
fall on this chart so if you've ever seen online
people trying to rank characters like Lawful
good, chaotic evil, true neutral, lawful neutral,
whatever it is, stuff like that. That's what
this comes from. And I think Gone with the Wind
is just the perfect topic to explore it because
the book goes on and on about morality or lack
of morality over and over throughout the book.
I am going to start by talking about good versus
evil. So I think this might be a little bit controversial
because I have seen lots and lots of people who
are very protective of these characters, specifically
of Scarlet, maybe because she gets so much hate
all over the internet, all over the world from
the fan base. I don't want to attack her character,
but I do want to explain what I mean by good
and evil to start with. So I'm just going to
read first what it says on the website easydamus
.com. I don't know if I'm saying this right.
I never know if I'm saying things right. If you've
been on this podcast, you know that. Good versus
evil. The way we're going to define it is good
characters and creatures protect innocent life.
Evil characters and creatures debase or destroy
innocent life, whether for fun or profit. Good
implies altruism, respect for life, and a concern
for the dignity of sentient beings. Good characters
make personal sacrifices to help others. Evil
implies hurting, oppressing, and killing others.
Some evil creatures simply have no compassion
for others and kill without qualms if doing so
is convenient. Others actively pursue evil, killing
for sport or out of duty to some evil deity or
master. People who are neutral with respect to
good and evil have compunctions against killing
the innocent but lack the commitment to make
sacrifices to protect or help others. Neutral
people are committed to others by personal relationships.
Okay, so it's kind of a spectrum. There's good,
there's neutral, and then there's evil for this
particular component of this chart. And I think
reading that, it does sound a little bit dramatic.
Obviously, this is not a fantasy setting like
Dungeons and Dragons is, so there isn't really
a ton of stuff like destroying innocent life.
and worshiping an evil deity or master. However,
I don't think it is such a stretch because Gone
with the Wind does take place during a war and
the characters are often involved in situations
that involve good and evil. So let's start out
with talking about Rhett because I was thinking
of him as I was reading that. So Rhett Butler
is in fact a murderer. As is Scarlet, but she's
somewhat of a different case. Rhett kills people
who he has disagreements with or whom he doesn't
really like out of some burst of temper and then
is very cool about it later. We don't really
know exactly what he's thinking. He's a very
mysterious character. Maybe he does care more
than we would think about the lives he's taken.
For example, there's one part where he is in
jail, and then when he gets out of jail, he confesses
to Scarlett he was in there because he did kill
the black man that he was accused of shooting.
And the reason he shot him was because, in his
own words, he was being uppity to a lady. So
a very terrible reason to kill someone, whether
racially motivated or not, which it clearly was.
And that is just pretty much evil to the point
where it says that Scarlett's blood chilled how
he could be so cool about his murders. And then
right after that, he follows it up by saying
that he killed a Yankee in some sort of barroom
fight. And he thinks that somebody else must
have gotten hanged for it because he never got
in trouble for it. And it doesn't really seem
to bother him that much. Like I said, he could
just be brushing it off. He could be like, oh,
um. I don't really care about this, even though
he actually does. And again, Scarlet feels a
little disturbed at the way that he is talking.
So I think that even though we don't really want
to put Rhett into the evil category, I think
that based on these specifications, he does kind
of fit because he will kill people. on a whim,
and it doesn't really seem to get to him all
that much based on how he is just able to go
about his life later on in the story. So then
if we talk about Scarlet, she does kill one person.
She kills a Yankee, but he's a little bit of
a different case because he was coming to her
house to steal, most likely. And she... was mostly
just acting out of self -defense because the
family was starving. She thought he was going
to steal their food and their money, and she
did kind of act on a whim as well. I'm not saying
that it was right or wrong for her to kill him,
but she is also not above murder. I just wanted
to put that out there. Now, where Scarlet more
falls... on the good versus evil scale I think
we can see on her approach to money. Scarlet
can be very very greedy and I think a really
good example of this is with the convict labor.
So when she starts to run her sawmill. She hires
this really cruel, hard man named Johnny Gallagher.
And everybody tells her that he's a bully and
that he's going to work the convicts to death,
but she doesn't really listen to them. And then
eventually when she finds out that he is mistreating
the convicts, he isn't feeding them the food
that she's supposed to be giving them, um, and
putting, making them work when they're sick and
such. She doesn't really put a stop to it. She...
is horrified at what she sees or at least uneasy
but even though she talks to Johnny Gallagher
and pretty much tells him to stop and says she's
going to take money out of his wages she does
think to herself in her mind you know I don't
think that he really is going to stop and I should
fire him but Sorry, but I don't really want to
fire him because he's making me a lot more money
than Ashley is at his mill. And then she kind
of justifies it to herself by saying. Well, the
convicts must be convicts for a reason because
they wouldn't be in jail if they hadn't done
something wrong. So it doesn't really matter
that much, which is, you know, a really harsh
thing to say. She could easily fire Johnny Gallagher
and hire someone else, but it's pure greed that's
motivating her and a little bit of fear because
we know that Scarlett has a lot of trauma and
a lot of anxiety about money and losing everything
again. So we can see why she is motivated to
act the way that she is. And I think Gone with
the Wind is absolutely amazing in that respect.
I think that even when we can't sympathize with
characters, we can always understand where they're
coming from. And I really love that none of the
characters in the story are purely good or purely
evil. I'm not really trying to argue one way
or another, but I do want to say in terms of
just... putting them somewhere on this spectrum,
I think that Scarlett and Rhett both tend more
towards the evil category because they both are
willing to do evil things or kind of let things
slide in order to get what they want. They are
self -serving. And I think that that is the main
point of evil in this. It is that you serve yourself.
and you are willing to go after innocent people
in order to do it. There's even another point.
They have this really, really good conversation
about morals and such. It is when Scarlett and
Rhett are talking on the porch of Aunt Pitty's
house, and she says this really interesting metaphor.
Hold on. Actually, I want to find it. Give me
a second. okay where is it hold on okay i'm back
and i found it this microphone is really handy
i am figuring out how to pause things and then
be able to come back to them sorry i know i sound
like a little kid right now i'm just very excited
about this microphone okay i found the quote
so Scarlet is talking to Rhett about how she
rooks the helpless and the widow and the orphan
and the ignorant. If you must steal, Scarlet,
why not steal from the rich and the strong instead
of the poor and weak? Because it's a sight easier
and safer to steal as you call it from the poor.
Ooh, that's a very, very harsh thing for her
to have said. So it keeps going on and she says,
if you're trying to devil me, it's no use. I
know I'm not as scrupulous as I should be these
days. Not as kind and as pleasant as I was brought
up to be. But I can't help it, Rhett, truly I
can't. What else could I have done? What would
have happened to me, to Wade, to Tara, and all
of us, if I'd been gentle when that Yankee came
to Tara? I should have been, but I don't even
want to think of that. And when Jonas Wilkerson
was going to take the home place, suppose I'd
been kind and scrupulous. Where would we all
be now? And if I'd been sweet and simple -minded
and not knacked frank about bad debts, we'd...
Oh, well, maybe I am a rogue, but I won't be
a rogue forever, Rhett. And then she talks for
a long time. She says, I've had so much trouble
just trying to keep afloat that I couldn't be
bothered about things that didn't matter. Like
good manners, I was too afraid my boat would
be swamped, and so I've dumped overboard the
things that seemed least important. And then
he says, pride and honor and truth and virtue
and kindliness. You are right, Scarlet, they
aren't important when a boat is sinking. But
look around at your friends. Either they are
bringing their boats ashore safely with cargoes
intact, or they are content to go down with all
the flags flying. And then she says, I can afford
to be nice later. And he says, you can afford
to be, but you won't. It's hard to salvage jettisoned
cargo, and if it is retrieved, it's usually irreparably
damaged. Sorry. And I fear that when you can
afford to fish up the honor and virtue and kindness
you've thrown overboard, you'll find that they
have suffered a sea change and not, I fear, into
something rich and strange. And that, I think,
is from The Tempest, that last part. So that,
I think, pretty much sums up almost the entire
book. It's one of my favorite passages, and it
talks a lot about how sometimes under dire circumstances,
Scarlet... gets rid of her kindness and her scruples
because she just doesn't feel like she has time
for them anymore and that's why i think both
scarlet and rhett fit into the evil category
i know that might be a dramatic thing to say
in the eyes of some people. Maybe I am over exaggerating
how bad they really are but I don't think they're
100 % evil. I think that they just fit into the
category because they as characters are willing
to be evil in order to serve themselves at different
points in the story. And even though Scarlet
and even Rhett have plenty of unselfish and generous
moments in the book where they protect others
and they do go out of their way to help others,
they still, for the most part, are some of the
only characters unafraid to be evil. So I think
that they're very, very complex, but I think
that they better exemplify evil than almost any
of the characters in the book, except for maybe
Johnny Gallagher, as I mentioned before, because
he's pretty bad. Um, then let's talk about some
other characters. So Melanie and Ashley, I think,
should come next. Um, Melanie, I think, is pretty
simple. She's good, okay? Like, we all know that
about her. She is very almost committed to being
good philosophically. She feels that everybody
deserves kindness and empathy, whether they're
a Yankee, whether they're a Southerner. She goes
out of her way to try to make everyone feel comfortable,
make everybody feel like they're welcome. Even
Belle Watling, for example, who is a prostitute
and is looked down on by everybody, Melanie is
pretty much the only person who welcomes her
and considers her a friend. So she's pretty much
a no -brainer. I won't waste too much time on
her. I'm not saying she's completely perfect.
I don't think anyone in the book is. But in terms
of where her philosophical and moral considerations
lie, I think that we know as readers that she
feels she is committed to good. And this may
be controversial, but I also think that Ashley
is more of a good character. And I think a lot
of people will say, well, Ashley emotionally
cheats on his wife, physically somewhat as well,
and he lies to her, and he's a coward, and he's
weak. But looking at it this way, at the end
of the day, Ashley is often mentioned to be a
character who is very concerned with honor. So
Ashley is weak. He's too afraid to tell Scarlett
that he really loves Melanie or maybe he isn't
sure how he feels about Melanie. But he really,
really does not want to cheat on his wife. He's
just kind of a people pleaser. And he doesn't
always lack the self -control or have the self
-control that he should. And when it comes to
Scarlett, he has his moral lapses and judgment.
So I don't think he's as good as Melanie. But
in terms of how he wants to be, I think that
he wants to be good. uh Scarlett's always talking
about how he values his honor above life how
he very much wants to do the right thing and
even though Ashley has these moments for example
being part of the clan where he is not very honorable
I think that He also has these moments where
he talks about how he doesn't really believe
in the war and how he would have freed the slaves
after his father died and he doesn't want to
do anything he doesn't believe is right. And
after Scarlet gives him the mills at the end
of the book or sells them to him, he says that
the convicts are going to go back right away.
So that's a point in his favor. I think Ashley
might fall a little bit more towards the neutral
line because he doesn't always fight for what
he thinks is right. He is a little bit too spineless
to sometimes really state what he believes or
really to go after what he wants. He just kind
of joins up with his friends and neighbors on
several occasions and he doesn't really try to
do good for most of the time. But I think that
he very much wants to do good and he is often
kind to people. who are destitute and people
who are in need the same way that Melanie is.
So I could see Ashley being good as well. I think
that that is at least where his heart lies. Whereas
Scarlett often thinks that Ashley is being kind
of foolish by being kind. She brings that out
multiple times. So Ashley and Melanie I think
more fall towards good. on the whole and that's
why they're more compatible overall. Now let's
talk about a few other characters. So is anybody
neutral in this book in terms of good versus
evil? I think that I can think of a couple and
their names the ones that come to me right away
are Mammy and Suellen and I think I am going
to start with Mammy. So There is one little scene
in the book. It's very obscure. It's when they're
all at Tara in part three and Uncle Peter comes
by to tell everybody that Aunt Pity Pat wants
Scarlet and Melanie to come home. There is this
scene right before that where they have a watermelon
and they hear somebody coming. So Mammy says
that... Or Scarlett says they should not share
the watermelon. That it was for their dinner
and they picked it and it's for the family. And
Mammy and Suellen are on Scarlett's side. It's
one of the few moments when that happens. And
then Melanie and Corrine are on the opposite
side. And then Pork is holding the watermelon
and he's like caught in the middle. And he's
like, oh no, what do I do? Because both sides
are yelling at him. So I thought it was so interesting
in the scene that Mammy is on the side of that's
our watermelon and we shouldn't share it with
somebody random who comes by. I think that that
is very much neutral. I think that Mammy is very
good to those who she feels loyal to, to those
whom she has helped raise like Scarlett and her
sisters. But I don't think that she... always
feels pity for other people whom she feels are
kind of beneath her. I think that she has a very
good sense of morals, but I don't think that
she is a zealot. I don't think that she is always
inclined to empathy over everything else. She
can be very, very stern about what she believes.
So I would actually put Mammy in more of the
neutral category. in terms of good versus evil.
And there's also a part where, and I guess she's
more good in the movie, because in the book,
the part where Scarlett steals Frank from Sue
Ellen, once Mammy sees that he that Frank is
someone of quality in her words and isn't somebody
like Rhett Butler that she's going after she
tells Scarlett that she's going to help her get
Frank over Sue Ellen and I think that just goes
to show how her personal loyalties come more
into play because Scarlett's her favorite so
Mammy can go back and forth. She does have a
strict moral code, but it's more personal to
her. It isn't extended to everybody around her
at all points, if you know what I mean. So then
to go back to Sue Ellen. Sue Ellen I think also
falls in that neutral category for the most part.
She does seem to have a little more empathy and
a little more kindness than Scarlett. And merely
basing this off the fact that other girls in
the neighborhood seem to like her and get along
with her much more than they do Scarlett. But
I could also see Sue Ellen being evil. I think
she can be very selfish and whiny. I think she
can be more selfish than Scarlett in terms of
doing work especially. So I think she could go
either way. I think that... What happened with
Gerald was kind of elder abuse, the way that
he died. And she knew what she was doing. We
could understand why she did what she did, again,
because Margaret Mitchell shows us how she was,
you know, jilted by her sister and she wants
revenge. So she's feeling hurt about that and
reacts because of that. But at the same time...
She might fall into the evil category, I guess.
I'm not really sure about Sue Ellen. What do
you guys think about her? Is she good, evil,
or neutral? I don't think she's good. I don't
know. I think Corrine is definitely good. I think
she is a lot like Melanie, just a very, very
nice girl. Again, with the watermelon scenario,
I think that kind of shows where everybody falls.
Okay, and then the last characters I want to
talk about. are Will Bentine and Belle Watling.
So Will Bentine is kind of like Sue Ellen where
he could go either way, but I think with him
it's more neutral and good. I think that Will
is the kind of guy who understands everybody
and he always sees the other person's point of
view, which is more of a good kind of trait,
more empathetic. But at the same time, He is
a little bit neutral, I think, because he doesn't
really go out of his way to do good things for
others either. He's not really like Ashley where
he has this strict, honorable code that he feels
that he should follow. I think that he... is
just kind of a true neutral because he's just
kind of there like he he gets the way things
work and he wants to make a good life for himself
and he sides with good as far as it gets him
but i don't think that he feels any real compunction
to always do the right thing or ever to do the
wrong thing either and then bell watling i think
is a character who i think falls into good as
well i think she is the hooker with a heart of
gold trope i think that she has plenty of moments
that show how kind she is and her empathy for
others like when she donates money to the hospital
multiple times even though they refuse to take
it even though she's living in this society where
people oppress her she still wants to help her
community which is interesting. And then also
another quality about Belle is towards the end
we see she has a lot of jealousy towards Scarlett
in one scene with Melanie where she's talking
about how she feels about the clan raid and she
feels that Scarlett killed her husband and you
can tell she's just kind of jealous because she's
in love with Rhett. But then later at the end
of the book After Bonnie dies, it says that Belle
comes across Scarlet in a store or something,
and she's one of the only people who looks at
Scarlet with pity in her eyes. And that has always
been one of my favorite little details about
Belle, that she always thinks of other people
over herself. So I think Belle is kind of implied
to be good. We don't know as much about her as
the other characters I mentioned, but I think
that she's probably good. Let's move on to law
versus chaos, where we're going to talk about
these same characters on a completely different
spectrum. So here is what the website says for
that. lawful characters tell the truth keep their
word respect authority honor tradition and judge
those who fall short of their duties chaotic
characters follow their consciences resent being
told what to do favor new ideas over tradition
and do what they promise if they feel like it
law implies honor trustworthiness obedience to
authority and reliability Lawfulness can include
close -mindedness, reactionary adherence to tradition,
judgmentalness and lack of adaptability. Chaos
implies freedom, adaptability and flexibility.
On the downside, chaos can include recklessness,
resentment toward legitimate authority, arbitrary
actions and irresponsibility. Someone who is
neutral with respect to law and chaos has a normal
respect for authority and feels neither a compulsion
to obey nor a compulsion to rebel. They are honest
but can be tempted into lying or deceiving others.
So right off the bat here. I think that Rhett
Butler is pretty much the definition of chaotic.
He goes against the grain for the sake of it.
He resents tradition just because. He thinks
that following the rules and doing what you're
supposed to do is boring, that going out of your
way to make others mad is fun. And that being
kind of an outsider is okay because it gives
you ultimate freedom to do whatever you want
and express himself and not care what others
think. I don't think much more needs to be said
about Rhett. I think he is pretty much always
chaotic until Bonnie is born. And in that case,
he only goes back to respectability because of
her. And then at the end of the book, he's a
little bit tired of being chaotic. But for most
of the book, he represents chaos the way that
this website describes it. Another character
that came straight to my mind was Mammy. She
is very much lawful, okay? Right down to the
judgmentalness and lack of adaptability. Even
at the very beginning, she is kind of loyal to
tradition to a fault. She is always telling Scarlet
the best way to catch a man. Even when they're
starving, she can't bring herself to adapt. She
doesn't want to be a field hand, which might
have some layers to it, I admit. The way it's
described in the book is more that she doesn't
want to not do what she's always done. She doesn't
approve of Scarlet working in the fields either.
She comments on how her hands are dirty. It's
going to ruin her hands like such a thing matters.
So I think Mammy is very much lawful, but the
good qualities of lawful as well as the bad ones,
too. So she definitely came to my mind. So the
more interesting character here is, again, Scarlet.
I think Scarlet, we can obviously see times when
she is evil or closer to neutral on the other
side of the spectrum, but on this one, I think
that she is pretty much a neutral. I think that
her actions are often chaotic, but they're not
motivated by any sort of personal... wanting
to rebel I think that Rhett kind of inspires
her to want to rebel or at least to not wear
widow's weeds and do other unpleasant things
but I don't think that she is resentful of authority
either I think sometimes she doesn't really mind
just going along with what works for her and
she would like to be accepted much more than
Rhett would so I think that honestly In this
situation, Scarlet, it might be like a neutral
evil, sometimes a true neutral to reach the end.
And I think that Rhett is mostly chaotic evil,
chaotic neutral. So that's where I would put
those two. I think that Scarlet just does not
care about going against the grain as much as
Rhett does. She often does, but it's more because
she's motivated by money or getting what she
wants. And that sometimes leads her to do things
that aren't accepted by other people. But it
doesn't come from deep within, like this need
to break away and be irresponsible and just free
and be able to do whatever she wants. I think
that Rhett kind of wishes Scarlet were more like
that so he could have a little buddy in his chaos,
but that's not always the way it works. I think
that Scarlet can really go back and forth with
what she wants in this case. So another character
that... I kind of go back and forth with is Melanie.
I think Melanie is more lawful. I think that
she has this great reverence for the Confederacy,
which Scarlett thinks borders on fanatic at times.
And she just thinks it's really, really silly.
And she's like, Melanie, why do you care so much?
And there's a really, really funny line. where
Scarlett is talking to Archie for one of the
first times. And they're talking about how Melanie
trusted Archie once she found out that he'd fought
for the Confederacy. And Scarlett thinks to herself,
if service in the army wipes out past sins, I
think Melanie has that mixed up with baptism.
And I think for her that that's true. Melanie
really holds fast to her ideals of the Confederacy
and I think that can be interpreted as lawful.
I think that she's definitely trustworthy. I
don't think that she is always reverent toward
authority. I think that she will go against authority
if she feels like she is or her friends are being
threatened. For example, if anybody insults Scarlett,
Melanie will... go out of her way to let them
know that they're wrong and she will definitely
challenge authority if she feels like she is
in the right so that is what makes me think maybe
she's more neutral good but I think overall Melanie
fits lawful good pretty well because she works
within the confines of society she pretty much
sets the standard in a lot of situations there's
one line in the movie where Mrs. Merriweather
says, if Melanie says it's all right, then it
is all right. So I think Melanie very much is
this very active member of society. And that's
pretty much associated with lawful. But I could
see her being neutral as well. Now, Ashley is
a character I don't think is lawful. I don't
know if he's quite chaotic either. I could see
Ashley maybe being a neutral good or a true neutral.
I think that he might be the kind of true neutral
who doesn't really have strong convictions and
just kind of bobs along and does what everyone
else does. But I kind of don't think he's true
neutral because he definitely... has very, very
strong ideals about what is good. I think that
neutral good fits him a little bit more. Again,
I know people are going to disagree with that
because there are a lot of Ashley haters, but
that is kind of just how I see him. I think that
he is someone who is committed to good, even
if he doesn't follow through. doesn't really
care one way or another with law versus chaos
I think that Ashley is a bit like Rhett where
he can see society for what it is and he can
see sometimes the silliness and the boundaries
that people impose upon themselves and I think
that he he's a shrewd person in a lot of ways
but I also don't think that he is chaotic in
any way I don't think he ever does anything all
that chaotic like maybe just in his thoughts
so that's where I would put him and then lastly
Will Bentine I think Will Bentine is the kind
of true neutral who just is committed to neutrality
he's the kind of guy who's like I think that
everything is extreme and so I'm gonna stay right
in the middle and I'm gonna see both sides and
points of view and he's but he's not like Ashley
because he's not an idealist he's really realistic
and down to earth and just always able to see
things for what they are but also not get upset
about it and just be able to look at the world
in a way that is really balanced and really fair
to everyone. I really like Will Benteen. I wish
he would have been in the movie and I could see
him as like very much being a true neutral. So
I think that that puts Melanie at lawful good.
Ashley is neutral good. Mammy as lawful neutral.
Will as true neutral. Rhett as chaotic. Evil.
He's kind of evil. Scarlet is more neutral evil.
And then lawful evil. I was kind of thinking
about who would fit this. I think maybe only
the one person I can think of might be India
Wilkes. India is very much lawful. We don't see
much of her, but Aunt Pity Pat comments India
has very stiff -necked ways. She's very, very
traditional. She's very, very pro. kkk she um
just is very resentful of scarlet because she
feels like she represents going against society
and all of that i don't really think india is
quite evil but whenever we see her we can see
that she is feeling very bitter and very vengeful
and just not a very pleasant person to be around
and the one major action we see her take is going
after scarlet and ashley just to prove her point
so i think that was more of an evil action she
didn't need to wash the family laundry so publicly
as it was put in the book and she's just very
very cold i think but the thing is she isn't
really wrong either about scarlet and ashley
so It's kind of hard to fault her. But if any
character fit into that, it might be her. And
maybe some other background characters, too,
that just don't get developed as much. I don't
think any of the main characters are lawful evil,
but you could maybe make a case for India. And
then if we want to put characters in other categories...
I know I said Rat could be chaotic neutral or
chaotic evil because he kind of goes back and
forth. I think that Prissy could be chaotic.
I'm not really sure about her. It kind of depends
how you interpret her motivations. But she could
be just, you know, going out of her way to cause
chaos at certain points, depending on how she's
really feeling. And so she could maybe be chaotic
neutral. Who knows? And then. Chaotic good, I
guess, could be Belle, who we talked about earlier.
I don't know if Belle's chaotic, but clearly
she's living on the outskirts of society and
she isn't really accepted among her peers, her
fellow man. Like Scarlet, it might just be that
her actions are chaotic and not actually her,
but we don't know her that well, so if we could
put someone in that category, it could be her.
So that's just kind of my take on the nine alignments.
If you want to go on this website, ezdamus .com,
D -A -M -U -S, it describes each type, lawful
good, neutral good, chaotic good, lawful neutral,
true neutral, chaotic neutral, lawful evil, neutral
evil, and chaotic evil. And it gives descriptions
of all of them and talks about them a little
bit more in depth. So thank you for listening
today. I hope that you enjoyed this episode.
I'm feeling not everybody will agree with me,
but it was really fun to talk about and just
discuss. Like I said, I don't think that any
character in these books, in this book, is really
purely good or purely evil, and that's what makes
it so great. No one is purely lawful or purely
chaotic. Everybody has their moments where they
kind of go back and forth, but... It's really,
really fun to look at the reasons behind why
they act the way they do and just nature versus
nurture and how the war changes everybody. So
I had fun doing this episode and I hope that
you all like it. Stay tuned for more episodes
because I do plan to make more. See ya.