WEBVTT 00:00:00.590 --> 00:00:03.250 Hi everybody, welcome back to Fiddle Dee Dee 00:00:03.250 --> 00:00:07.230 after a very long hiatus. I hope you had a very 00:00:07.230 --> 00:00:09.789 Merry Christmas or whatever holiday you celebrate 00:00:09.789 --> 00:00:13.529 and a Happy New Year today, which is when I'm 00:00:13.529 --> 00:00:16.739 recording this. I got a brand new microphone 00:00:16.739 --> 00:00:19.420 for Christmas. So I'm testing that out. So please 00:00:19.420 --> 00:00:22.760 bear with me as I figure out this fancy schmancy 00:00:22.760 --> 00:00:25.960 contraption I now own. My sister is so nice. 00:00:26.000 --> 00:00:28.239 I asked for a microphone for Christmas and she 00:00:28.239 --> 00:00:30.640 does not even know I have a podcast or anything, 00:00:30.739 --> 00:00:32.719 but she didn't ask me why. She just got me a 00:00:32.719 --> 00:00:36.420 microphone. So now I have that and hopefully 00:00:36.420 --> 00:00:39.899 the sound quality is better. I also bought myself 00:00:39.899 --> 00:00:43.399 a present. I got the Gone With The Wind 70th 00:00:43.399 --> 00:00:47.450 Anniversary set on eBay. Obviously, it came out 00:00:47.450 --> 00:00:51.829 when the movie turned 70 years old. And so far, 00:00:51.829 --> 00:00:55.149 it is so worth it. It is so cool. It has five 00:00:55.149 --> 00:00:58.429 discs, including the movie on two of them. And 00:00:58.429 --> 00:01:01.689 then the other three have like several movies 00:01:01.689 --> 00:01:04.810 on them. There's one about Clark Gable, one about 00:01:04.810 --> 00:01:09.069 Vivian Leigh, one about 1939 year in Hollywood. 00:01:10.040 --> 00:01:13.120 one called the scarlet o 'hara war which i should 00:01:13.120 --> 00:01:14.760 make an episode about one day because that's 00:01:14.760 --> 00:01:18.040 an interesting movie um it has a bunch of different 00:01:18.040 --> 00:01:21.540 interviews with actors from the movie and also 00:01:21.540 --> 00:01:24.719 the restoration process of keeping the movie 00:01:24.719 --> 00:01:28.319 looking really great after all of these years 00:01:28.319 --> 00:01:30.680 which was so interesting and actually my favorite 00:01:30.680 --> 00:01:33.620 thing that i watched So it's been so worth it 00:01:33.620 --> 00:01:35.760 so far, and it also came with a lot of different 00:01:35.760 --> 00:01:39.620 little keepsakes and memorabilia. So I've been 00:01:39.620 --> 00:01:41.879 having fun with that. They really went all out 00:01:41.879 --> 00:01:45.180 for the 70th anniversary. I looked up the 75th 00:01:45.180 --> 00:01:48.280 anniversary set, and it looks like they had almost 00:01:48.280 --> 00:01:51.480 nothing to do because the 70th anniversary had 00:01:51.480 --> 00:01:54.280 all of the cool exclusive content already. But 00:01:54.280 --> 00:01:56.400 I kind of want to buy that one too. If you have 00:01:56.400 --> 00:01:58.079 no idea what I'm talking about, you should really 00:01:58.079 --> 00:02:01.900 Google these two sets because... They are really, 00:02:01.939 --> 00:02:05.859 really awesome for anybody who's a fan. And I 00:02:05.859 --> 00:02:08.240 think that you should probably buy yourself one 00:02:08.240 --> 00:02:11.539 because I'm having a really good time. So let 00:02:11.539 --> 00:02:13.860 me know if you got any cool Gone with the Wind 00:02:13.860 --> 00:02:17.340 presents for Christmas or whatever holiday you 00:02:17.340 --> 00:02:21.520 celebrate. My New Year's resolution is to make 00:02:21.520 --> 00:02:24.500 more episodes this year. Like I said, I know 00:02:24.500 --> 00:02:26.699 it's been quite a long hiatus. There have been 00:02:26.699 --> 00:02:29.639 all sorts of reasons for that, but I'm planning 00:02:29.639 --> 00:02:32.840 on recording a bunch of episodes in one go and 00:02:32.840 --> 00:02:35.939 then queuing them for once a week, so you should 00:02:35.939 --> 00:02:39.199 get an episode once a week from this point on. 00:02:39.960 --> 00:02:44.990 With that said, let's get into our first... Topic 00:02:44.990 --> 00:02:47.949 of the new year. And it's just kind of going 00:02:47.949 --> 00:02:51.349 to be a fun one. Not really anything serious 00:02:51.349 --> 00:02:55.590 or really in depth. It's going to be about the 00:02:55.590 --> 00:02:58.550 moral alignments of the different characters 00:02:58.550 --> 00:03:02.469 in the book. Now, Gone with the Wind is all about 00:03:02.469 --> 00:03:05.090 moral alignments. If you don't know what I'm 00:03:05.090 --> 00:03:09.270 talking about, I am going to be using the, I 00:03:09.270 --> 00:03:12.270 don't know what it's called, but it's the alignment. 00:03:13.900 --> 00:03:17.960 thing that the people who make Dungeons and Dragons 00:03:17.960 --> 00:03:21.139 created to create characters and there are two 00:03:21.139 --> 00:03:23.840 basic components to it there's good versus evil 00:03:23.840 --> 00:03:26.680 and law versus chaos so we're going to be talking 00:03:26.680 --> 00:03:30.259 about what both of those are and the two different 00:03:30.259 --> 00:03:32.620 spectrums and then we're going to kind of talk 00:03:32.620 --> 00:03:34.740 about where the different characters in the book 00:03:34.740 --> 00:03:38.580 fall on this chart so if you've ever seen online 00:03:38.580 --> 00:03:42.939 people trying to rank characters like Lawful 00:03:42.939 --> 00:03:47.259 good, chaotic evil, true neutral, lawful neutral, 00:03:47.479 --> 00:03:49.979 whatever it is, stuff like that. That's what 00:03:49.979 --> 00:03:52.240 this comes from. And I think Gone with the Wind 00:03:52.240 --> 00:03:54.659 is just the perfect topic to explore it because 00:03:54.659 --> 00:03:59.280 the book goes on and on about morality or lack 00:03:59.280 --> 00:04:03.080 of morality over and over throughout the book. 00:04:04.080 --> 00:04:09.099 I am going to start by talking about good versus 00:04:09.099 --> 00:04:12.259 evil. So I think this might be a little bit controversial 00:04:12.259 --> 00:04:15.500 because I have seen lots and lots of people who 00:04:15.500 --> 00:04:19.240 are very protective of these characters, specifically 00:04:19.240 --> 00:04:22.699 of Scarlet, maybe because she gets so much hate 00:04:22.699 --> 00:04:26.339 all over the internet, all over the world from 00:04:26.339 --> 00:04:31.360 the fan base. I don't want to attack her character, 00:04:31.439 --> 00:04:34.480 but I do want to explain what I mean by good 00:04:34.480 --> 00:04:38.279 and evil to start with. So I'm just going to 00:04:38.279 --> 00:04:44.100 read first what it says on the website easydamus 00:04:44.100 --> 00:04:46.720 .com. I don't know if I'm saying this right. 00:04:46.759 --> 00:04:49.040 I never know if I'm saying things right. If you've 00:04:49.040 --> 00:04:52.019 been on this podcast, you know that. Good versus 00:04:52.019 --> 00:04:56.279 evil. The way we're going to define it is good 00:04:56.279 --> 00:04:59.259 characters and creatures protect innocent life. 00:04:59.620 --> 00:05:02.920 Evil characters and creatures debase or destroy 00:05:02.920 --> 00:05:07.040 innocent life, whether for fun or profit. Good 00:05:07.040 --> 00:05:10.980 implies altruism, respect for life, and a concern 00:05:10.980 --> 00:05:14.060 for the dignity of sentient beings. Good characters 00:05:14.060 --> 00:05:17.759 make personal sacrifices to help others. Evil 00:05:17.759 --> 00:05:20.779 implies hurting, oppressing, and killing others. 00:05:20.959 --> 00:05:23.420 Some evil creatures simply have no compassion 00:05:23.420 --> 00:05:26.319 for others and kill without qualms if doing so 00:05:26.319 --> 00:05:29.800 is convenient. Others actively pursue evil, killing 00:05:29.800 --> 00:05:32.220 for sport or out of duty to some evil deity or 00:05:32.220 --> 00:05:35.079 master. People who are neutral with respect to 00:05:35.079 --> 00:05:37.000 good and evil have compunctions against killing 00:05:37.000 --> 00:05:39.600 the innocent but lack the commitment to make 00:05:39.600 --> 00:05:42.519 sacrifices to protect or help others. Neutral 00:05:42.519 --> 00:05:45.199 people are committed to others by personal relationships. 00:05:45.920 --> 00:05:48.620 Okay, so it's kind of a spectrum. There's good, 00:05:48.699 --> 00:05:51.579 there's neutral, and then there's evil for this 00:05:51.579 --> 00:05:56.540 particular component of this chart. And I think 00:05:56.540 --> 00:05:59.240 reading that, it does sound a little bit dramatic. 00:06:01.449 --> 00:06:05.269 Obviously, this is not a fantasy setting like 00:06:05.269 --> 00:06:09.569 Dungeons and Dragons is, so there isn't really 00:06:09.569 --> 00:06:16.029 a ton of stuff like destroying innocent life. 00:06:17.319 --> 00:06:21.060 and worshiping an evil deity or master. However, 00:06:21.199 --> 00:06:23.839 I don't think it is such a stretch because Gone 00:06:23.839 --> 00:06:26.839 with the Wind does take place during a war and 00:06:26.839 --> 00:06:30.339 the characters are often involved in situations 00:06:30.339 --> 00:06:34.319 that involve good and evil. So let's start out 00:06:34.319 --> 00:06:38.199 with talking about Rhett because I was thinking 00:06:38.199 --> 00:06:41.100 of him as I was reading that. So Rhett Butler 00:06:41.100 --> 00:06:47.670 is in fact a murderer. As is Scarlet, but she's 00:06:47.670 --> 00:06:51.350 somewhat of a different case. Rhett kills people 00:06:51.350 --> 00:06:55.730 who he has disagreements with or whom he doesn't 00:06:55.730 --> 00:06:59.310 really like out of some burst of temper and then 00:06:59.310 --> 00:07:01.850 is very cool about it later. We don't really 00:07:01.850 --> 00:07:03.589 know exactly what he's thinking. He's a very 00:07:03.589 --> 00:07:06.290 mysterious character. Maybe he does care more 00:07:06.290 --> 00:07:09.089 than we would think about the lives he's taken. 00:07:10.480 --> 00:07:13.939 For example, there's one part where he is in 00:07:13.939 --> 00:07:17.740 jail, and then when he gets out of jail, he confesses 00:07:17.740 --> 00:07:20.319 to Scarlett he was in there because he did kill 00:07:20.319 --> 00:07:22.399 the black man that he was accused of shooting. 00:07:22.560 --> 00:07:26.180 And the reason he shot him was because, in his 00:07:26.180 --> 00:07:30.000 own words, he was being uppity to a lady. So 00:07:30.000 --> 00:07:33.019 a very terrible reason to kill someone, whether 00:07:33.019 --> 00:07:36.779 racially motivated or not, which it clearly was. 00:07:37.680 --> 00:07:40.279 And that is just pretty much evil to the point 00:07:40.279 --> 00:07:42.699 where it says that Scarlett's blood chilled how 00:07:42.699 --> 00:07:45.019 he could be so cool about his murders. And then 00:07:45.019 --> 00:07:46.939 right after that, he follows it up by saying 00:07:46.939 --> 00:07:50.519 that he killed a Yankee in some sort of barroom 00:07:50.519 --> 00:07:54.819 fight. And he thinks that somebody else must 00:07:54.819 --> 00:07:56.800 have gotten hanged for it because he never got 00:07:56.800 --> 00:07:58.899 in trouble for it. And it doesn't really seem 00:07:58.899 --> 00:08:01.019 to bother him that much. Like I said, he could 00:08:01.019 --> 00:08:04.920 just be brushing it off. He could be like, oh, 00:08:05.079 --> 00:08:08.199 um. I don't really care about this, even though 00:08:08.199 --> 00:08:12.360 he actually does. And again, Scarlet feels a 00:08:12.360 --> 00:08:14.199 little disturbed at the way that he is talking. 00:08:14.500 --> 00:08:18.699 So I think that even though we don't really want 00:08:18.699 --> 00:08:21.860 to put Rhett into the evil category, I think 00:08:21.860 --> 00:08:24.879 that based on these specifications, he does kind 00:08:24.879 --> 00:08:28.480 of fit because he will kill people. on a whim, 00:08:28.560 --> 00:08:31.459 and it doesn't really seem to get to him all 00:08:31.459 --> 00:08:34.460 that much based on how he is just able to go 00:08:34.460 --> 00:08:38.340 about his life later on in the story. So then 00:08:38.340 --> 00:08:42.320 if we talk about Scarlet, she does kill one person. 00:08:42.360 --> 00:08:45.500 She kills a Yankee, but he's a little bit of 00:08:45.500 --> 00:08:48.480 a different case because he was coming to her 00:08:48.480 --> 00:08:54.840 house to steal, most likely. And she... was mostly 00:08:54.840 --> 00:08:57.580 just acting out of self -defense because the 00:08:57.580 --> 00:08:59.179 family was starving. She thought he was going 00:08:59.179 --> 00:09:01.379 to steal their food and their money, and she 00:09:01.379 --> 00:09:03.700 did kind of act on a whim as well. I'm not saying 00:09:03.700 --> 00:09:06.059 that it was right or wrong for her to kill him, 00:09:06.139 --> 00:09:10.259 but she is also not above murder. I just wanted 00:09:10.259 --> 00:09:14.279 to put that out there. Now, where Scarlet more 00:09:14.279 --> 00:09:18.139 falls... on the good versus evil scale I think 00:09:18.139 --> 00:09:21.860 we can see on her approach to money. Scarlet 00:09:21.860 --> 00:09:24.159 can be very very greedy and I think a really 00:09:24.159 --> 00:09:27.539 good example of this is with the convict labor. 00:09:27.820 --> 00:09:33.190 So when she starts to run her sawmill. She hires 00:09:33.190 --> 00:09:37.370 this really cruel, hard man named Johnny Gallagher. 00:09:37.409 --> 00:09:39.730 And everybody tells her that he's a bully and 00:09:39.730 --> 00:09:41.570 that he's going to work the convicts to death, 00:09:41.669 --> 00:09:44.070 but she doesn't really listen to them. And then 00:09:44.070 --> 00:09:46.970 eventually when she finds out that he is mistreating 00:09:46.970 --> 00:09:49.429 the convicts, he isn't feeding them the food 00:09:49.429 --> 00:09:53.049 that she's supposed to be giving them, um, and 00:09:53.049 --> 00:09:55.250 putting, making them work when they're sick and 00:09:55.250 --> 00:09:59.029 such. She doesn't really put a stop to it. She... 00:09:59.629 --> 00:10:02.830 is horrified at what she sees or at least uneasy 00:10:02.830 --> 00:10:06.629 but even though she talks to Johnny Gallagher 00:10:06.629 --> 00:10:08.950 and pretty much tells him to stop and says she's 00:10:08.950 --> 00:10:11.190 going to take money out of his wages she does 00:10:11.190 --> 00:10:13.870 think to herself in her mind you know I don't 00:10:13.870 --> 00:10:16.970 think that he really is going to stop and I should 00:10:16.970 --> 00:10:22.049 fire him but Sorry, but I don't really want to 00:10:22.049 --> 00:10:24.309 fire him because he's making me a lot more money 00:10:24.309 --> 00:10:26.990 than Ashley is at his mill. And then she kind 00:10:26.990 --> 00:10:30.789 of justifies it to herself by saying. Well, the 00:10:30.789 --> 00:10:33.830 convicts must be convicts for a reason because 00:10:33.830 --> 00:10:36.409 they wouldn't be in jail if they hadn't done 00:10:36.409 --> 00:10:38.350 something wrong. So it doesn't really matter 00:10:38.350 --> 00:10:40.789 that much, which is, you know, a really harsh 00:10:40.789 --> 00:10:43.730 thing to say. She could easily fire Johnny Gallagher 00:10:43.730 --> 00:10:46.830 and hire someone else, but it's pure greed that's 00:10:46.830 --> 00:10:49.409 motivating her and a little bit of fear because 00:10:49.409 --> 00:10:51.490 we know that Scarlett has a lot of trauma and 00:10:51.490 --> 00:10:54.330 a lot of anxiety about money and losing everything 00:10:54.330 --> 00:10:58.149 again. So we can see why she is motivated to 00:10:58.149 --> 00:11:01.250 act the way that she is. And I think Gone with 00:11:01.250 --> 00:11:03.309 the Wind is absolutely amazing in that respect. 00:11:03.370 --> 00:11:07.129 I think that even when we can't sympathize with 00:11:07.129 --> 00:11:09.769 characters, we can always understand where they're 00:11:09.769 --> 00:11:11.789 coming from. And I really love that none of the 00:11:11.789 --> 00:11:14.730 characters in the story are purely good or purely 00:11:14.730 --> 00:11:18.710 evil. I'm not really trying to argue one way 00:11:18.710 --> 00:11:23.169 or another, but I do want to say in terms of 00:11:23.169 --> 00:11:26.399 just... putting them somewhere on this spectrum, 00:11:26.600 --> 00:11:29.580 I think that Scarlett and Rhett both tend more 00:11:29.580 --> 00:11:34.600 towards the evil category because they both are 00:11:34.600 --> 00:11:38.059 willing to do evil things or kind of let things 00:11:38.059 --> 00:11:41.679 slide in order to get what they want. They are 00:11:41.679 --> 00:11:44.639 self -serving. And I think that that is the main 00:11:44.639 --> 00:11:48.340 point of evil in this. It is that you serve yourself. 00:11:49.690 --> 00:11:52.850 and you are willing to go after innocent people 00:11:52.850 --> 00:11:54.769 in order to do it. There's even another point. 00:11:54.850 --> 00:11:58.190 They have this really, really good conversation 00:11:58.190 --> 00:12:03.549 about morals and such. It is when Scarlett and 00:12:03.549 --> 00:12:05.730 Rhett are talking on the porch of Aunt Pitty's 00:12:05.730 --> 00:12:10.389 house, and she says this really interesting metaphor. 00:12:10.669 --> 00:12:12.769 Hold on. Actually, I want to find it. Give me 00:12:12.769 --> 00:12:39.299 a second. okay where is it hold on okay i'm back 00:12:39.299 --> 00:12:41.700 and i found it this microphone is really handy 00:12:41.700 --> 00:12:44.019 i am figuring out how to pause things and then 00:12:44.019 --> 00:12:47.000 be able to come back to them sorry i know i sound 00:12:47.000 --> 00:12:48.919 like a little kid right now i'm just very excited 00:12:48.919 --> 00:12:51.659 about this microphone okay i found the quote 00:12:51.659 --> 00:12:58.629 so Scarlet is talking to Rhett about how she 00:12:58.629 --> 00:13:00.610 rooks the helpless and the widow and the orphan 00:13:00.610 --> 00:13:03.269 and the ignorant. If you must steal, Scarlet, 00:13:03.309 --> 00:13:05.250 why not steal from the rich and the strong instead 00:13:05.250 --> 00:13:08.250 of the poor and weak? Because it's a sight easier 00:13:08.250 --> 00:13:10.990 and safer to steal as you call it from the poor. 00:13:11.549 --> 00:13:14.029 Ooh, that's a very, very harsh thing for her 00:13:14.029 --> 00:13:17.610 to have said. So it keeps going on and she says, 00:13:17.809 --> 00:13:20.129 if you're trying to devil me, it's no use. I 00:13:20.129 --> 00:13:22.129 know I'm not as scrupulous as I should be these 00:13:22.129 --> 00:13:25.000 days. Not as kind and as pleasant as I was brought 00:13:25.000 --> 00:13:27.799 up to be. But I can't help it, Rhett, truly I 00:13:27.799 --> 00:13:29.899 can't. What else could I have done? What would 00:13:29.899 --> 00:13:32.120 have happened to me, to Wade, to Tara, and all 00:13:32.120 --> 00:13:34.440 of us, if I'd been gentle when that Yankee came 00:13:34.440 --> 00:13:36.820 to Tara? I should have been, but I don't even 00:13:36.820 --> 00:13:39.139 want to think of that. And when Jonas Wilkerson 00:13:39.139 --> 00:13:41.179 was going to take the home place, suppose I'd 00:13:41.179 --> 00:13:43.460 been kind and scrupulous. Where would we all 00:13:43.460 --> 00:13:46.779 be now? And if I'd been sweet and simple -minded 00:13:46.779 --> 00:13:49.200 and not knacked frank about bad debts, we'd... 00:13:49.629 --> 00:13:51.909 Oh, well, maybe I am a rogue, but I won't be 00:13:51.909 --> 00:13:56.549 a rogue forever, Rhett. And then she talks for 00:13:56.549 --> 00:13:59.750 a long time. She says, I've had so much trouble 00:13:59.750 --> 00:14:01.470 just trying to keep afloat that I couldn't be 00:14:01.470 --> 00:14:03.850 bothered about things that didn't matter. Like 00:14:03.850 --> 00:14:06.210 good manners, I was too afraid my boat would 00:14:06.210 --> 00:14:08.470 be swamped, and so I've dumped overboard the 00:14:08.470 --> 00:14:11.460 things that seemed least important. And then 00:14:11.460 --> 00:14:14.279 he says, pride and honor and truth and virtue 00:14:14.279 --> 00:14:17.039 and kindliness. You are right, Scarlet, they 00:14:17.039 --> 00:14:19.240 aren't important when a boat is sinking. But 00:14:19.240 --> 00:14:21.000 look around at your friends. Either they are 00:14:21.000 --> 00:14:23.200 bringing their boats ashore safely with cargoes 00:14:23.200 --> 00:14:25.700 intact, or they are content to go down with all 00:14:25.700 --> 00:14:30.659 the flags flying. And then she says, I can afford 00:14:30.659 --> 00:14:33.360 to be nice later. And he says, you can afford 00:14:33.360 --> 00:14:36.139 to be, but you won't. It's hard to salvage jettisoned 00:14:36.139 --> 00:14:39.299 cargo, and if it is retrieved, it's usually irreparably 00:14:39.299 --> 00:14:43.960 damaged. Sorry. And I fear that when you can 00:14:43.960 --> 00:14:46.080 afford to fish up the honor and virtue and kindness 00:14:46.080 --> 00:14:48.759 you've thrown overboard, you'll find that they 00:14:48.759 --> 00:14:51.120 have suffered a sea change and not, I fear, into 00:14:51.120 --> 00:14:53.919 something rich and strange. And that, I think, 00:14:53.919 --> 00:14:58.980 is from The Tempest, that last part. So that, 00:14:59.139 --> 00:15:01.980 I think, pretty much sums up almost the entire 00:15:01.980 --> 00:15:04.059 book. It's one of my favorite passages, and it 00:15:04.059 --> 00:15:08.240 talks a lot about how sometimes under dire circumstances, 00:15:08.779 --> 00:15:13.539 Scarlet... gets rid of her kindness and her scruples 00:15:13.539 --> 00:15:16.620 because she just doesn't feel like she has time 00:15:16.620 --> 00:15:19.059 for them anymore and that's why i think both 00:15:19.059 --> 00:15:22.200 scarlet and rhett fit into the evil category 00:15:22.200 --> 00:15:26.340 i know that might be a dramatic thing to say 00:15:26.340 --> 00:15:29.940 in the eyes of some people. Maybe I am over exaggerating 00:15:29.940 --> 00:15:32.000 how bad they really are but I don't think they're 00:15:32.000 --> 00:15:35.600 100 % evil. I think that they just fit into the 00:15:35.600 --> 00:15:39.539 category because they as characters are willing 00:15:39.539 --> 00:15:43.559 to be evil in order to serve themselves at different 00:15:43.559 --> 00:15:46.539 points in the story. And even though Scarlet 00:15:46.539 --> 00:15:50.200 and even Rhett have plenty of unselfish and generous 00:15:50.200 --> 00:15:52.620 moments in the book where they protect others 00:15:52.620 --> 00:15:55.059 and they do go out of their way to help others, 00:15:55.279 --> 00:15:59.899 they still, for the most part, are some of the 00:15:59.899 --> 00:16:02.960 only characters unafraid to be evil. So I think 00:16:02.960 --> 00:16:05.720 that they're very, very complex, but I think 00:16:05.720 --> 00:16:08.500 that they better exemplify evil than almost any 00:16:08.500 --> 00:16:10.600 of the characters in the book, except for maybe 00:16:10.600 --> 00:16:13.379 Johnny Gallagher, as I mentioned before, because 00:16:13.379 --> 00:16:19.120 he's pretty bad. Um, then let's talk about some 00:16:19.120 --> 00:16:22.200 other characters. So Melanie and Ashley, I think, 00:16:22.200 --> 00:16:26.620 should come next. Um, Melanie, I think, is pretty 00:16:26.620 --> 00:16:30.139 simple. She's good, okay? Like, we all know that 00:16:30.139 --> 00:16:35.120 about her. She is very almost committed to being 00:16:35.120 --> 00:16:37.960 good philosophically. She feels that everybody 00:16:37.960 --> 00:16:40.799 deserves kindness and empathy, whether they're 00:16:40.799 --> 00:16:45.639 a Yankee, whether they're a Southerner. She goes 00:16:45.639 --> 00:16:49.539 out of her way to try to make everyone feel comfortable, 00:16:49.679 --> 00:16:53.279 make everybody feel like they're welcome. Even 00:16:53.279 --> 00:16:57.299 Belle Watling, for example, who is a prostitute 00:16:57.299 --> 00:17:00.100 and is looked down on by everybody, Melanie is 00:17:00.100 --> 00:17:02.320 pretty much the only person who welcomes her 00:17:02.320 --> 00:17:06.140 and considers her a friend. So she's pretty much 00:17:06.140 --> 00:17:08.119 a no -brainer. I won't waste too much time on 00:17:08.119 --> 00:17:10.180 her. I'm not saying she's completely perfect. 00:17:10.259 --> 00:17:13.460 I don't think anyone in the book is. But in terms 00:17:13.460 --> 00:17:17.079 of where her philosophical and moral considerations 00:17:17.079 --> 00:17:21.579 lie, I think that we know as readers that she 00:17:21.579 --> 00:17:24.299 feels she is committed to good. And this may 00:17:24.299 --> 00:17:27.279 be controversial, but I also think that Ashley 00:17:27.279 --> 00:17:30.200 is more of a good character. And I think a lot 00:17:30.200 --> 00:17:33.000 of people will say, well, Ashley emotionally 00:17:33.000 --> 00:17:36.200 cheats on his wife, physically somewhat as well, 00:17:36.339 --> 00:17:40.140 and he lies to her, and he's a coward, and he's 00:17:40.140 --> 00:17:42.740 weak. But looking at it this way, at the end 00:17:42.740 --> 00:17:47.339 of the day, Ashley is often mentioned to be a 00:17:47.339 --> 00:17:52.160 character who is very concerned with honor. So 00:17:52.160 --> 00:17:58.420 Ashley is weak. He's too afraid to tell Scarlett 00:17:58.420 --> 00:18:02.019 that he really loves Melanie or maybe he isn't 00:18:02.019 --> 00:18:05.839 sure how he feels about Melanie. But he really, 00:18:05.859 --> 00:18:09.099 really does not want to cheat on his wife. He's 00:18:09.099 --> 00:18:12.200 just kind of a people pleaser. And he doesn't 00:18:12.200 --> 00:18:16.079 always lack the self -control or have the self 00:18:16.079 --> 00:18:19.559 -control that he should. And when it comes to 00:18:19.559 --> 00:18:23.680 Scarlett, he has his moral lapses and judgment. 00:18:23.819 --> 00:18:26.740 So I don't think he's as good as Melanie. But 00:18:26.740 --> 00:18:29.599 in terms of how he wants to be, I think that 00:18:29.599 --> 00:18:32.619 he wants to be good. uh Scarlett's always talking 00:18:32.619 --> 00:18:35.779 about how he values his honor above life how 00:18:35.779 --> 00:18:39.740 he very much wants to do the right thing and 00:18:39.740 --> 00:18:42.400 even though Ashley has these moments for example 00:18:42.400 --> 00:18:47.180 being part of the clan where he is not very honorable 00:18:47.180 --> 00:18:50.920 I think that He also has these moments where 00:18:50.920 --> 00:18:53.460 he talks about how he doesn't really believe 00:18:53.460 --> 00:18:56.900 in the war and how he would have freed the slaves 00:18:56.900 --> 00:19:00.019 after his father died and he doesn't want to 00:19:00.019 --> 00:19:01.740 do anything he doesn't believe is right. And 00:19:01.740 --> 00:19:04.640 after Scarlet gives him the mills at the end 00:19:04.640 --> 00:19:07.680 of the book or sells them to him, he says that 00:19:07.680 --> 00:19:09.259 the convicts are going to go back right away. 00:19:09.359 --> 00:19:12.200 So that's a point in his favor. I think Ashley 00:19:12.200 --> 00:19:14.240 might fall a little bit more towards the neutral 00:19:14.240 --> 00:19:18.019 line because he doesn't always fight for what 00:19:18.019 --> 00:19:22.180 he thinks is right. He is a little bit too spineless 00:19:22.180 --> 00:19:25.339 to sometimes really state what he believes or 00:19:25.339 --> 00:19:27.279 really to go after what he wants. He just kind 00:19:27.279 --> 00:19:29.259 of joins up with his friends and neighbors on 00:19:29.259 --> 00:19:32.839 several occasions and he doesn't really try to 00:19:32.839 --> 00:19:35.859 do good for most of the time. But I think that 00:19:35.859 --> 00:19:40.000 he very much wants to do good and he is often 00:19:40.000 --> 00:19:44.450 kind to people. who are destitute and people 00:19:44.450 --> 00:19:47.829 who are in need the same way that Melanie is. 00:19:48.089 --> 00:19:51.789 So I could see Ashley being good as well. I think 00:19:51.789 --> 00:19:54.769 that that is at least where his heart lies. Whereas 00:19:54.769 --> 00:19:57.329 Scarlett often thinks that Ashley is being kind 00:19:57.329 --> 00:19:59.769 of foolish by being kind. She brings that out 00:19:59.769 --> 00:20:05.089 multiple times. So Ashley and Melanie I think 00:20:05.089 --> 00:20:08.730 more fall towards good. on the whole and that's 00:20:08.730 --> 00:20:11.950 why they're more compatible overall. Now let's 00:20:11.950 --> 00:20:15.069 talk about a few other characters. So is anybody 00:20:15.069 --> 00:20:18.329 neutral in this book in terms of good versus 00:20:18.329 --> 00:20:22.670 evil? I think that I can think of a couple and 00:20:22.670 --> 00:20:26.529 their names the ones that come to me right away 00:20:26.529 --> 00:20:31.170 are Mammy and Suellen and I think I am going 00:20:31.170 --> 00:20:37.059 to start with Mammy. So There is one little scene 00:20:37.059 --> 00:20:41.960 in the book. It's very obscure. It's when they're 00:20:41.960 --> 00:20:45.579 all at Tara in part three and Uncle Peter comes 00:20:45.579 --> 00:20:49.380 by to tell everybody that Aunt Pity Pat wants 00:20:49.380 --> 00:20:52.619 Scarlet and Melanie to come home. There is this 00:20:52.619 --> 00:20:56.140 scene right before that where they have a watermelon 00:20:56.140 --> 00:21:03.779 and they hear somebody coming. So Mammy says 00:21:03.779 --> 00:21:07.819 that... Or Scarlett says they should not share 00:21:07.819 --> 00:21:10.819 the watermelon. That it was for their dinner 00:21:10.819 --> 00:21:14.000 and they picked it and it's for the family. And 00:21:14.000 --> 00:21:16.519 Mammy and Suellen are on Scarlett's side. It's 00:21:16.519 --> 00:21:19.000 one of the few moments when that happens. And 00:21:19.000 --> 00:21:20.880 then Melanie and Corrine are on the opposite 00:21:20.880 --> 00:21:23.319 side. And then Pork is holding the watermelon 00:21:23.319 --> 00:21:25.099 and he's like caught in the middle. And he's 00:21:25.099 --> 00:21:27.400 like, oh no, what do I do? Because both sides 00:21:27.400 --> 00:21:30.990 are yelling at him. So I thought it was so interesting 00:21:30.990 --> 00:21:33.250 in the scene that Mammy is on the side of that's 00:21:33.250 --> 00:21:35.230 our watermelon and we shouldn't share it with 00:21:35.230 --> 00:21:39.109 somebody random who comes by. I think that that 00:21:39.109 --> 00:21:42.609 is very much neutral. I think that Mammy is very 00:21:42.609 --> 00:21:48.170 good to those who she feels loyal to, to those 00:21:48.170 --> 00:21:51.730 whom she has helped raise like Scarlett and her 00:21:51.730 --> 00:21:55.900 sisters. But I don't think that she... always 00:21:55.900 --> 00:22:00.799 feels pity for other people whom she feels are 00:22:00.799 --> 00:22:03.460 kind of beneath her. I think that she has a very 00:22:03.460 --> 00:22:06.000 good sense of morals, but I don't think that 00:22:06.000 --> 00:22:10.980 she is a zealot. I don't think that she is always 00:22:10.980 --> 00:22:14.859 inclined to empathy over everything else. She 00:22:14.859 --> 00:22:18.119 can be very, very stern about what she believes. 00:22:18.299 --> 00:22:21.539 So I would actually put Mammy in more of the 00:22:21.539 --> 00:22:24.799 neutral category. in terms of good versus evil. 00:22:25.200 --> 00:22:29.339 And there's also a part where, and I guess she's 00:22:29.339 --> 00:22:31.579 more good in the movie, because in the book, 00:22:31.619 --> 00:22:34.700 the part where Scarlett steals Frank from Sue 00:22:34.700 --> 00:22:38.960 Ellen, once Mammy sees that he that Frank is 00:22:38.960 --> 00:22:43.359 someone of quality in her words and isn't somebody 00:22:43.359 --> 00:22:45.200 like Rhett Butler that she's going after she 00:22:45.200 --> 00:22:47.220 tells Scarlett that she's going to help her get 00:22:47.220 --> 00:22:50.759 Frank over Sue Ellen and I think that just goes 00:22:50.759 --> 00:22:53.019 to show how her personal loyalties come more 00:22:53.019 --> 00:22:55.720 into play because Scarlett's her favorite so 00:22:56.640 --> 00:22:59.759 Mammy can go back and forth. She does have a 00:22:59.759 --> 00:23:02.460 strict moral code, but it's more personal to 00:23:02.460 --> 00:23:06.259 her. It isn't extended to everybody around her 00:23:06.259 --> 00:23:09.720 at all points, if you know what I mean. So then 00:23:09.720 --> 00:23:12.839 to go back to Sue Ellen. Sue Ellen I think also 00:23:12.839 --> 00:23:16.000 falls in that neutral category for the most part. 00:23:16.650 --> 00:23:19.230 She does seem to have a little more empathy and 00:23:19.230 --> 00:23:21.930 a little more kindness than Scarlett. And merely 00:23:21.930 --> 00:23:25.029 basing this off the fact that other girls in 00:23:25.029 --> 00:23:27.289 the neighborhood seem to like her and get along 00:23:27.289 --> 00:23:29.910 with her much more than they do Scarlett. But 00:23:29.910 --> 00:23:32.329 I could also see Sue Ellen being evil. I think 00:23:32.329 --> 00:23:34.569 she can be very selfish and whiny. I think she 00:23:34.569 --> 00:23:37.569 can be more selfish than Scarlett in terms of 00:23:37.569 --> 00:23:40.750 doing work especially. So I think she could go 00:23:40.750 --> 00:23:44.470 either way. I think that... What happened with 00:23:44.470 --> 00:23:47.250 Gerald was kind of elder abuse, the way that 00:23:47.250 --> 00:23:50.349 he died. And she knew what she was doing. We 00:23:50.349 --> 00:23:52.490 could understand why she did what she did, again, 00:23:52.609 --> 00:23:57.250 because Margaret Mitchell shows us how she was, 00:23:57.369 --> 00:23:59.690 you know, jilted by her sister and she wants 00:23:59.690 --> 00:24:03.130 revenge. So she's feeling hurt about that and 00:24:03.130 --> 00:24:07.809 reacts because of that. But at the same time... 00:24:08.940 --> 00:24:11.599 She might fall into the evil category, I guess. 00:24:11.640 --> 00:24:13.579 I'm not really sure about Sue Ellen. What do 00:24:13.579 --> 00:24:16.240 you guys think about her? Is she good, evil, 00:24:16.339 --> 00:24:19.359 or neutral? I don't think she's good. I don't 00:24:19.359 --> 00:24:21.400 know. I think Corrine is definitely good. I think 00:24:21.400 --> 00:24:23.940 she is a lot like Melanie, just a very, very 00:24:23.940 --> 00:24:25.940 nice girl. Again, with the watermelon scenario, 00:24:26.140 --> 00:24:28.759 I think that kind of shows where everybody falls. 00:24:30.259 --> 00:24:34.920 Okay, and then the last characters I want to 00:24:34.920 --> 00:24:40.660 talk about. are Will Bentine and Belle Watling. 00:24:40.819 --> 00:24:45.680 So Will Bentine is kind of like Sue Ellen where 00:24:45.680 --> 00:24:47.559 he could go either way, but I think with him 00:24:47.559 --> 00:24:50.240 it's more neutral and good. I think that Will 00:24:50.240 --> 00:24:52.900 is the kind of guy who understands everybody 00:24:52.900 --> 00:24:59.839 and he always sees the other person's point of 00:24:59.839 --> 00:25:02.420 view, which is more of a good kind of trait, 00:25:02.519 --> 00:25:07.410 more empathetic. But at the same time, He is 00:25:07.410 --> 00:25:12.910 a little bit neutral, I think, because he doesn't 00:25:12.910 --> 00:25:15.390 really go out of his way to do good things for 00:25:15.390 --> 00:25:18.670 others either. He's not really like Ashley where 00:25:18.670 --> 00:25:21.450 he has this strict, honorable code that he feels 00:25:21.450 --> 00:25:26.109 that he should follow. I think that he... is 00:25:26.109 --> 00:25:28.750 just kind of a true neutral because he's just 00:25:28.750 --> 00:25:32.250 kind of there like he he gets the way things 00:25:32.250 --> 00:25:34.130 work and he wants to make a good life for himself 00:25:34.130 --> 00:25:38.549 and he sides with good as far as it gets him 00:25:38.549 --> 00:25:43.230 but i don't think that he feels any real compunction 00:25:43.230 --> 00:25:47.839 to always do the right thing or ever to do the 00:25:47.839 --> 00:25:50.740 wrong thing either and then bell watling i think 00:25:50.740 --> 00:25:53.099 is a character who i think falls into good as 00:25:53.099 --> 00:25:55.380 well i think she is the hooker with a heart of 00:25:55.380 --> 00:25:59.160 gold trope i think that she has plenty of moments 00:25:59.160 --> 00:26:03.400 that show how kind she is and her empathy for 00:26:03.400 --> 00:26:05.940 others like when she donates money to the hospital 00:26:05.940 --> 00:26:08.380 multiple times even though they refuse to take 00:26:08.380 --> 00:26:10.700 it even though she's living in this society where 00:26:10.700 --> 00:26:13.440 people oppress her she still wants to help her 00:26:13.440 --> 00:26:17.119 community which is interesting. And then also 00:26:17.119 --> 00:26:20.319 another quality about Belle is towards the end 00:26:20.319 --> 00:26:23.259 we see she has a lot of jealousy towards Scarlett 00:26:23.259 --> 00:26:25.559 in one scene with Melanie where she's talking 00:26:25.559 --> 00:26:33.920 about how she feels about the clan raid and she 00:26:33.920 --> 00:26:37.619 feels that Scarlett killed her husband and you 00:26:37.619 --> 00:26:39.640 can tell she's just kind of jealous because she's 00:26:39.640 --> 00:26:41.380 in love with Rhett. But then later at the end 00:26:41.380 --> 00:26:45.589 of the book After Bonnie dies, it says that Belle 00:26:45.589 --> 00:26:48.569 comes across Scarlet in a store or something, 00:26:48.609 --> 00:26:50.509 and she's one of the only people who looks at 00:26:50.509 --> 00:26:53.329 Scarlet with pity in her eyes. And that has always 00:26:53.329 --> 00:26:55.430 been one of my favorite little details about 00:26:55.430 --> 00:26:59.849 Belle, that she always thinks of other people 00:26:59.849 --> 00:27:03.869 over herself. So I think Belle is kind of implied 00:27:03.869 --> 00:27:05.730 to be good. We don't know as much about her as 00:27:05.730 --> 00:27:07.509 the other characters I mentioned, but I think 00:27:07.509 --> 00:27:11.500 that she's probably good. Let's move on to law 00:27:11.500 --> 00:27:13.759 versus chaos, where we're going to talk about 00:27:13.759 --> 00:27:16.180 these same characters on a completely different 00:27:16.180 --> 00:27:22.180 spectrum. So here is what the website says for 00:27:22.180 --> 00:27:26.869 that. lawful characters tell the truth keep their 00:27:26.869 --> 00:27:30.349 word respect authority honor tradition and judge 00:27:30.349 --> 00:27:33.589 those who fall short of their duties chaotic 00:27:33.589 --> 00:27:36.009 characters follow their consciences resent being 00:27:36.009 --> 00:27:38.890 told what to do favor new ideas over tradition 00:27:38.890 --> 00:27:41.809 and do what they promise if they feel like it 00:27:41.809 --> 00:27:45.869 law implies honor trustworthiness obedience to 00:27:45.869 --> 00:27:49.559 authority and reliability Lawfulness can include 00:27:49.559 --> 00:27:52.319 close -mindedness, reactionary adherence to tradition, 00:27:52.759 --> 00:27:56.660 judgmentalness and lack of adaptability. Chaos 00:27:56.660 --> 00:27:59.480 implies freedom, adaptability and flexibility. 00:27:59.960 --> 00:28:02.480 On the downside, chaos can include recklessness, 00:28:02.660 --> 00:28:05.079 resentment toward legitimate authority, arbitrary 00:28:05.079 --> 00:28:08.380 actions and irresponsibility. Someone who is 00:28:08.380 --> 00:28:10.880 neutral with respect to law and chaos has a normal 00:28:10.880 --> 00:28:13.700 respect for authority and feels neither a compulsion 00:28:13.700 --> 00:28:16.779 to obey nor a compulsion to rebel. They are honest 00:28:16.779 --> 00:28:19.799 but can be tempted into lying or deceiving others. 00:28:22.559 --> 00:28:26.940 So right off the bat here. I think that Rhett 00:28:26.940 --> 00:28:30.859 Butler is pretty much the definition of chaotic. 00:28:31.160 --> 00:28:35.000 He goes against the grain for the sake of it. 00:28:35.039 --> 00:28:39.000 He resents tradition just because. He thinks 00:28:39.000 --> 00:28:41.980 that following the rules and doing what you're 00:28:41.980 --> 00:28:46.440 supposed to do is boring, that going out of your 00:28:46.440 --> 00:28:51.700 way to make others mad is fun. And that being 00:28:51.700 --> 00:28:55.660 kind of an outsider is okay because it gives 00:28:55.660 --> 00:28:58.019 you ultimate freedom to do whatever you want 00:28:58.019 --> 00:29:02.460 and express himself and not care what others 00:29:02.460 --> 00:29:06.549 think. I don't think much more needs to be said 00:29:06.549 --> 00:29:08.930 about Rhett. I think he is pretty much always 00:29:08.930 --> 00:29:12.269 chaotic until Bonnie is born. And in that case, 00:29:12.269 --> 00:29:15.269 he only goes back to respectability because of 00:29:15.269 --> 00:29:16.890 her. And then at the end of the book, he's a 00:29:16.890 --> 00:29:19.349 little bit tired of being chaotic. But for most 00:29:19.349 --> 00:29:23.190 of the book, he represents chaos the way that 00:29:23.190 --> 00:29:26.640 this website describes it. Another character 00:29:26.640 --> 00:29:29.200 that came straight to my mind was Mammy. She 00:29:29.200 --> 00:29:32.400 is very much lawful, okay? Right down to the 00:29:32.400 --> 00:29:35.859 judgmentalness and lack of adaptability. Even 00:29:35.859 --> 00:29:40.539 at the very beginning, she is kind of loyal to 00:29:40.539 --> 00:29:43.500 tradition to a fault. She is always telling Scarlet 00:29:43.500 --> 00:29:45.859 the best way to catch a man. Even when they're 00:29:45.859 --> 00:29:48.740 starving, she can't bring herself to adapt. She 00:29:48.740 --> 00:29:51.240 doesn't want to be a field hand, which might 00:29:51.240 --> 00:29:54.680 have some layers to it, I admit. The way it's 00:29:54.680 --> 00:29:58.059 described in the book is more that she doesn't 00:29:58.059 --> 00:30:01.759 want to not do what she's always done. She doesn't 00:30:01.759 --> 00:30:05.839 approve of Scarlet working in the fields either. 00:30:06.200 --> 00:30:09.059 She comments on how her hands are dirty. It's 00:30:09.059 --> 00:30:11.019 going to ruin her hands like such a thing matters. 00:30:11.500 --> 00:30:14.619 So I think Mammy is very much lawful, but the 00:30:14.619 --> 00:30:18.279 good qualities of lawful as well as the bad ones, 00:30:18.339 --> 00:30:23.339 too. So she definitely came to my mind. So the 00:30:23.339 --> 00:30:26.420 more interesting character here is, again, Scarlet. 00:30:26.460 --> 00:30:30.039 I think Scarlet, we can obviously see times when 00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:33.940 she is evil or closer to neutral on the other 00:30:33.940 --> 00:30:36.819 side of the spectrum, but on this one, I think 00:30:36.819 --> 00:30:40.279 that she is pretty much a neutral. I think that 00:30:40.279 --> 00:30:43.160 her actions are often chaotic, but they're not 00:30:43.160 --> 00:30:48.559 motivated by any sort of personal... wanting 00:30:48.559 --> 00:30:51.319 to rebel I think that Rhett kind of inspires 00:30:51.319 --> 00:30:55.799 her to want to rebel or at least to not wear 00:30:55.799 --> 00:30:58.140 widow's weeds and do other unpleasant things 00:30:58.140 --> 00:31:01.920 but I don't think that she is resentful of authority 00:31:01.920 --> 00:31:04.480 either I think sometimes she doesn't really mind 00:31:04.480 --> 00:31:07.960 just going along with what works for her and 00:31:07.960 --> 00:31:11.160 she would like to be accepted much more than 00:31:11.160 --> 00:31:15.589 Rhett would so I think that honestly In this 00:31:15.589 --> 00:31:19.230 situation, Scarlet, it might be like a neutral 00:31:19.230 --> 00:31:23.069 evil, sometimes a true neutral to reach the end. 00:31:23.170 --> 00:31:27.509 And I think that Rhett is mostly chaotic evil, 00:31:27.589 --> 00:31:30.490 chaotic neutral. So that's where I would put 00:31:30.490 --> 00:31:32.990 those two. I think that Scarlet just does not 00:31:32.990 --> 00:31:35.950 care about going against the grain as much as 00:31:35.950 --> 00:31:39.029 Rhett does. She often does, but it's more because 00:31:39.029 --> 00:31:42.569 she's motivated by money or getting what she 00:31:42.569 --> 00:31:46.630 wants. And that sometimes leads her to do things 00:31:46.630 --> 00:31:49.750 that aren't accepted by other people. But it 00:31:49.750 --> 00:31:53.410 doesn't come from deep within, like this need 00:31:53.410 --> 00:32:01.930 to break away and be irresponsible and just free 00:32:01.930 --> 00:32:06.809 and be able to do whatever she wants. I think 00:32:06.809 --> 00:32:08.789 that Rhett kind of wishes Scarlet were more like 00:32:08.789 --> 00:32:11.190 that so he could have a little buddy in his chaos, 00:32:11.329 --> 00:32:14.190 but that's not always the way it works. I think 00:32:14.190 --> 00:32:16.210 that Scarlet can really go back and forth with 00:32:16.210 --> 00:32:21.009 what she wants in this case. So another character 00:32:21.009 --> 00:32:25.690 that... I kind of go back and forth with is Melanie. 00:32:25.930 --> 00:32:29.309 I think Melanie is more lawful. I think that 00:32:29.309 --> 00:32:32.609 she has this great reverence for the Confederacy, 00:32:32.630 --> 00:32:36.329 which Scarlett thinks borders on fanatic at times. 00:32:36.329 --> 00:32:38.309 And she just thinks it's really, really silly. 00:32:38.470 --> 00:32:43.329 And she's like, Melanie, why do you care so much? 00:32:44.049 --> 00:32:48.980 And there's a really, really funny line. where 00:32:48.980 --> 00:32:51.460 Scarlett is talking to Archie for one of the 00:32:51.460 --> 00:32:55.839 first times. And they're talking about how Melanie 00:32:55.839 --> 00:32:59.039 trusted Archie once she found out that he'd fought 00:32:59.039 --> 00:33:02.119 for the Confederacy. And Scarlett thinks to herself, 00:33:02.319 --> 00:33:06.220 if service in the army wipes out past sins, I 00:33:06.220 --> 00:33:08.559 think Melanie has that mixed up with baptism. 00:33:09.440 --> 00:33:13.170 And I think for her that that's true. Melanie 00:33:13.170 --> 00:33:17.230 really holds fast to her ideals of the Confederacy 00:33:17.230 --> 00:33:20.569 and I think that can be interpreted as lawful. 00:33:20.650 --> 00:33:24.109 I think that she's definitely trustworthy. I 00:33:24.109 --> 00:33:26.670 don't think that she is always reverent toward 00:33:26.670 --> 00:33:28.970 authority. I think that she will go against authority 00:33:28.970 --> 00:33:36.230 if she feels like she is or her friends are being 00:33:36.230 --> 00:33:39.069 threatened. For example, if anybody insults Scarlett, 00:33:39.210 --> 00:33:44.660 Melanie will... go out of her way to let them 00:33:44.660 --> 00:33:47.740 know that they're wrong and she will definitely 00:33:47.740 --> 00:33:51.160 challenge authority if she feels like she is 00:33:51.160 --> 00:33:54.180 in the right so that is what makes me think maybe 00:33:54.180 --> 00:33:57.019 she's more neutral good but I think overall Melanie 00:33:57.019 --> 00:34:00.019 fits lawful good pretty well because she works 00:34:00.019 --> 00:34:02.740 within the confines of society she pretty much 00:34:02.740 --> 00:34:05.819 sets the standard in a lot of situations there's 00:34:05.819 --> 00:34:09.210 one line in the movie where Mrs. Merriweather 00:34:09.210 --> 00:34:11.510 says, if Melanie says it's all right, then it 00:34:11.510 --> 00:34:15.889 is all right. So I think Melanie very much is 00:34:15.889 --> 00:34:18.750 this very active member of society. And that's 00:34:18.750 --> 00:34:21.329 pretty much associated with lawful. But I could 00:34:21.329 --> 00:34:26.409 see her being neutral as well. Now, Ashley is 00:34:26.409 --> 00:34:29.789 a character I don't think is lawful. I don't 00:34:29.789 --> 00:34:33.139 know if he's quite chaotic either. I could see 00:34:33.139 --> 00:34:36.639 Ashley maybe being a neutral good or a true neutral. 00:34:36.739 --> 00:34:40.579 I think that he might be the kind of true neutral 00:34:40.579 --> 00:34:44.019 who doesn't really have strong convictions and 00:34:44.019 --> 00:34:46.400 just kind of bobs along and does what everyone 00:34:46.400 --> 00:34:50.500 else does. But I kind of don't think he's true 00:34:50.500 --> 00:34:54.780 neutral because he definitely... has very, very 00:34:54.780 --> 00:34:57.960 strong ideals about what is good. I think that 00:34:57.960 --> 00:35:00.679 neutral good fits him a little bit more. Again, 00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:02.420 I know people are going to disagree with that 00:35:02.420 --> 00:35:04.659 because there are a lot of Ashley haters, but 00:35:04.659 --> 00:35:07.760 that is kind of just how I see him. I think that 00:35:07.760 --> 00:35:10.619 he is someone who is committed to good, even 00:35:10.619 --> 00:35:15.030 if he doesn't follow through. doesn't really 00:35:15.030 --> 00:35:17.090 care one way or another with law versus chaos 00:35:17.090 --> 00:35:19.610 I think that Ashley is a bit like Rhett where 00:35:19.610 --> 00:35:22.070 he can see society for what it is and he can 00:35:22.070 --> 00:35:24.849 see sometimes the silliness and the boundaries 00:35:24.849 --> 00:35:28.070 that people impose upon themselves and I think 00:35:28.070 --> 00:35:31.389 that he he's a shrewd person in a lot of ways 00:35:31.389 --> 00:35:35.170 but I also don't think that he is chaotic in 00:35:35.170 --> 00:35:37.829 any way I don't think he ever does anything all 00:35:37.829 --> 00:35:40.230 that chaotic like maybe just in his thoughts 00:35:40.230 --> 00:35:45.840 so that's where I would put him and then lastly 00:35:45.840 --> 00:35:48.579 Will Bentine I think Will Bentine is the kind 00:35:48.579 --> 00:35:53.179 of true neutral who just is committed to neutrality 00:35:53.179 --> 00:35:56.119 he's the kind of guy who's like I think that 00:35:56.119 --> 00:36:00.820 everything is extreme and so I'm gonna stay right 00:36:00.820 --> 00:36:02.579 in the middle and I'm gonna see both sides and 00:36:02.579 --> 00:36:05.659 points of view and he's but he's not like Ashley 00:36:05.659 --> 00:36:08.119 because he's not an idealist he's really realistic 00:36:08.119 --> 00:36:11.960 and down to earth and just always able to see 00:36:11.960 --> 00:36:14.940 things for what they are but also not get upset 00:36:14.940 --> 00:36:19.639 about it and just be able to look at the world 00:36:19.639 --> 00:36:23.139 in a way that is really balanced and really fair 00:36:23.139 --> 00:36:25.559 to everyone. I really like Will Benteen. I wish 00:36:25.559 --> 00:36:27.400 he would have been in the movie and I could see 00:36:27.400 --> 00:36:30.920 him as like very much being a true neutral. So 00:36:30.920 --> 00:36:34.960 I think that that puts Melanie at lawful good. 00:36:35.480 --> 00:36:38.719 Ashley is neutral good. Mammy as lawful neutral. 00:36:39.960 --> 00:36:48.260 Will as true neutral. Rhett as chaotic. Evil. 00:36:48.760 --> 00:36:51.159 He's kind of evil. Scarlet is more neutral evil. 00:36:53.940 --> 00:36:57.480 And then lawful evil. I was kind of thinking 00:36:57.480 --> 00:36:59.780 about who would fit this. I think maybe only 00:36:59.780 --> 00:37:02.760 the one person I can think of might be India 00:37:02.760 --> 00:37:06.219 Wilkes. India is very much lawful. We don't see 00:37:06.219 --> 00:37:09.340 much of her, but Aunt Pity Pat comments India 00:37:09.340 --> 00:37:12.599 has very stiff -necked ways. She's very, very 00:37:12.599 --> 00:37:18.170 traditional. She's very, very pro. kkk she um 00:37:18.170 --> 00:37:22.630 just is very resentful of scarlet because she 00:37:22.630 --> 00:37:25.710 feels like she represents going against society 00:37:25.710 --> 00:37:29.210 and all of that i don't really think india is 00:37:29.210 --> 00:37:31.630 quite evil but whenever we see her we can see 00:37:31.630 --> 00:37:35.590 that she is feeling very bitter and very vengeful 00:37:35.590 --> 00:37:39.920 and just not a very pleasant person to be around 00:37:39.920 --> 00:37:44.659 and the one major action we see her take is going 00:37:44.659 --> 00:37:47.420 after scarlet and ashley just to prove her point 00:37:47.420 --> 00:37:50.739 so i think that was more of an evil action she 00:37:50.739 --> 00:37:53.840 didn't need to wash the family laundry so publicly 00:37:53.840 --> 00:37:59.380 as it was put in the book and she's just very 00:37:59.380 --> 00:38:02.360 very cold i think but the thing is she isn't 00:38:02.360 --> 00:38:04.980 really wrong either about scarlet and ashley 00:38:04.980 --> 00:38:10.219 so It's kind of hard to fault her. But if any 00:38:10.219 --> 00:38:13.239 character fit into that, it might be her. And 00:38:13.239 --> 00:38:15.239 maybe some other background characters, too, 00:38:15.380 --> 00:38:18.219 that just don't get developed as much. I don't 00:38:18.219 --> 00:38:20.800 think any of the main characters are lawful evil, 00:38:20.960 --> 00:38:25.920 but you could maybe make a case for India. And 00:38:25.920 --> 00:38:31.119 then if we want to put characters in other categories... 00:38:32.059 --> 00:38:34.840 I know I said Rat could be chaotic neutral or 00:38:34.840 --> 00:38:36.679 chaotic evil because he kind of goes back and 00:38:36.679 --> 00:38:40.079 forth. I think that Prissy could be chaotic. 00:38:40.179 --> 00:38:42.599 I'm not really sure about her. It kind of depends 00:38:42.599 --> 00:38:45.900 how you interpret her motivations. But she could 00:38:45.900 --> 00:38:49.320 be just, you know, going out of her way to cause 00:38:49.320 --> 00:38:52.900 chaos at certain points, depending on how she's 00:38:52.900 --> 00:38:56.619 really feeling. And so she could maybe be chaotic 00:38:56.619 --> 00:39:01.860 neutral. Who knows? And then. Chaotic good, I 00:39:01.860 --> 00:39:04.119 guess, could be Belle, who we talked about earlier. 00:39:04.300 --> 00:39:06.440 I don't know if Belle's chaotic, but clearly 00:39:06.440 --> 00:39:08.619 she's living on the outskirts of society and 00:39:08.619 --> 00:39:11.400 she isn't really accepted among her peers, her 00:39:11.400 --> 00:39:16.820 fellow man. Like Scarlet, it might just be that 00:39:16.820 --> 00:39:19.559 her actions are chaotic and not actually her, 00:39:19.719 --> 00:39:22.360 but we don't know her that well, so if we could 00:39:22.360 --> 00:39:24.300 put someone in that category, it could be her. 00:39:25.750 --> 00:39:29.369 So that's just kind of my take on the nine alignments. 00:39:29.829 --> 00:39:33.789 If you want to go on this website, ezdamus .com, 00:39:33.949 --> 00:39:38.710 D -A -M -U -S, it describes each type, lawful 00:39:38.710 --> 00:39:41.409 good, neutral good, chaotic good, lawful neutral, 00:39:41.869 --> 00:39:45.130 true neutral, chaotic neutral, lawful evil, neutral 00:39:45.130 --> 00:39:47.630 evil, and chaotic evil. And it gives descriptions 00:39:47.630 --> 00:39:49.409 of all of them and talks about them a little 00:39:49.409 --> 00:39:52.119 bit more in depth. So thank you for listening 00:39:52.119 --> 00:39:54.840 today. I hope that you enjoyed this episode. 00:39:55.139 --> 00:39:57.380 I'm feeling not everybody will agree with me, 00:39:57.440 --> 00:39:59.380 but it was really fun to talk about and just 00:39:59.380 --> 00:40:02.179 discuss. Like I said, I don't think that any 00:40:02.179 --> 00:40:06.280 character in these books, in this book, is really 00:40:06.280 --> 00:40:08.679 purely good or purely evil, and that's what makes 00:40:08.679 --> 00:40:11.539 it so great. No one is purely lawful or purely 00:40:11.539 --> 00:40:14.199 chaotic. Everybody has their moments where they 00:40:14.199 --> 00:40:17.190 kind of go back and forth, but... It's really, 00:40:17.210 --> 00:40:20.809 really fun to look at the reasons behind why 00:40:20.809 --> 00:40:24.050 they act the way they do and just nature versus 00:40:24.050 --> 00:40:27.349 nurture and how the war changes everybody. So 00:40:27.349 --> 00:40:31.809 I had fun doing this episode and I hope that 00:40:31.809 --> 00:40:34.150 you all like it. Stay tuned for more episodes 00:40:34.150 --> 00:40:36.610 because I do plan to make more. See ya.