WEBVTT 00:00:00.590 --> 00:00:03.470 Hi guys, welcome back to Fiddle Dee Dee. I hope 00:00:03.470 --> 00:00:06.410 everyone has been doing well. I know it's been 00:00:06.410 --> 00:00:09.109 a little while, maybe longer than it should have 00:00:09.109 --> 00:00:12.970 been since the last episode. But today we are 00:00:12.970 --> 00:00:16.510 going to be talking about probably the most divisive 00:00:16.510 --> 00:00:21.850 character in the book and maybe in all of fiction. 00:00:21.949 --> 00:00:24.050 I think she has a pretty good chance and that 00:00:24.050 --> 00:00:28.789 is Scarlett O 'Hara herself. When I say she's 00:00:28.789 --> 00:00:32.250 divisive, I'm not saying that lightly because 00:00:32.250 --> 00:00:36.009 when I go on the internet and I Google anything 00:00:36.009 --> 00:00:40.429 regarding her, I see so many people who claim 00:00:40.429 --> 00:00:43.369 that she is like the devil incarnate and that 00:00:43.369 --> 00:00:46.509 she has no redeeming qualities whatsoever. And 00:00:46.509 --> 00:00:49.229 I also see that criticism sometimes from people 00:00:49.229 --> 00:00:51.609 who have read the book and people who like the 00:00:51.609 --> 00:00:55.490 book. And I also see people defend her and say 00:00:55.490 --> 00:00:58.250 that she is such an inspiration or even a role 00:00:58.250 --> 00:01:00.630 model for them and that she's just awesome and 00:01:00.630 --> 00:01:05.230 they love her. So I really think that there may 00:01:05.230 --> 00:01:07.349 be two types of people in this world, people 00:01:07.349 --> 00:01:09.810 who love her or people who hate her. And I was 00:01:09.810 --> 00:01:12.489 a big fan of Gone with the Wind. I love Scarlett, 00:01:12.549 --> 00:01:15.170 but I am not one of those people who thinks that 00:01:15.170 --> 00:01:19.489 she doesn't have any flaws or that she is even 00:01:19.489 --> 00:01:22.390 really a good person. I think that She has a 00:01:22.390 --> 00:01:25.290 lot of negative qualities. But I also definitely 00:01:25.290 --> 00:01:28.349 don't think she's evil. I think she is a really 00:01:28.349 --> 00:01:31.750 unique character, to be honest with you. I think 00:01:31.750 --> 00:01:35.010 that in the beginning of the book, Margaret Mitchell 00:01:35.010 --> 00:01:37.689 seems like she sets out to create this character 00:01:37.689 --> 00:01:43.849 who is so just vapid and shallow and basic. And 00:01:43.849 --> 00:01:46.280 in the process, she... create somebody who is 00:01:46.280 --> 00:01:49.400 actually really complex and really unique for 00:01:49.400 --> 00:01:52.340 a protagonist and also really relatable even 00:01:52.340 --> 00:01:54.519 if you don't seem to have anything in common 00:01:54.519 --> 00:01:59.780 with her on surface level. So one qualm people 00:01:59.780 --> 00:02:02.879 have with her that I want to address today is 00:02:03.530 --> 00:02:07.670 Does she have any empathy? And I know that sounds 00:02:07.670 --> 00:02:10.610 like a weird question because Scarlett's a very 00:02:10.610 --> 00:02:13.030 human character and like I said, very complex. 00:02:13.270 --> 00:02:15.969 So of course she must have some, but I've seen 00:02:15.969 --> 00:02:18.770 a lot of people say that she doesn't have any, 00:02:18.810 --> 00:02:23.030 that she maybe even tends on sociopathy. We don't 00:02:23.030 --> 00:02:25.569 really know. So I am going to just go through 00:02:25.569 --> 00:02:29.580 the book. look at a bunch of different quotes 00:02:29.580 --> 00:02:32.419 and passages. I have put together a really long 00:02:32.419 --> 00:02:35.219 selection of quotes, so I hope I'm not quoting 00:02:35.219 --> 00:02:37.319 too much in this episode. I really would like 00:02:37.319 --> 00:02:40.659 to talk more than read quotes because reading 00:02:40.659 --> 00:02:44.919 quotes can be exhausting. But let me just get 00:02:44.919 --> 00:02:49.000 started. from the very beginning and talk about 00:02:49.000 --> 00:02:51.919 scarlet as she changes throughout the book originally 00:02:51.919 --> 00:02:55.120 i was going to talk about her in terms of all 00:02:55.120 --> 00:02:57.139 the different characters she interacts with and 00:02:57.139 --> 00:02:59.580 whether she has empathy for each different character 00:02:59.580 --> 00:03:03.039 but as i went on and i collected all these quotes 00:03:03.039 --> 00:03:05.879 i noticed it kind of made more sense to just 00:03:05.879 --> 00:03:08.840 start at the beginning and go to the end so that's 00:03:08.840 --> 00:03:11.000 what we're going to try to do as much as we can 00:03:11.000 --> 00:03:17.770 okay so beginning of the book I think that from 00:03:17.770 --> 00:03:21.349 the very beginning, Scarlett is established to 00:03:21.349 --> 00:03:26.289 be a character who is not very nice. She is somebody 00:03:26.289 --> 00:03:29.710 who is very easily able to manipulate other people 00:03:29.710 --> 00:03:34.389 into getting what she wants. And the least empathy 00:03:34.389 --> 00:03:37.800 that we see from her in the beginning. or the 00:03:37.800 --> 00:03:41.099 least empathetic action, is probably in regards 00:03:41.099 --> 00:03:43.860 to India Wilkes. So this is right at the very 00:03:43.860 --> 00:03:49.639 beginning. It's talking about how she first started 00:03:49.639 --> 00:03:52.539 flirting with the Tarleton twins, and it says 00:03:52.539 --> 00:03:56.870 that she noticed that Stuart was in love with 00:03:56.870 --> 00:04:00.689 India and it says she was constitutionally unable 00:04:00.689 --> 00:04:03.490 to endure any man being in love with any woman 00:04:03.490 --> 00:04:06.349 not herself and the sight of India Wilkes and 00:04:06.349 --> 00:04:08.370 Stuart at the speaking had been too much for 00:04:08.370 --> 00:04:11.250 her predatory nature not content with Stuart 00:04:11.250 --> 00:04:13.909 alone she had set her cap for Brent as well and 00:04:13.909 --> 00:04:15.930 with a thoroughness that overwhelmed the two 00:04:15.930 --> 00:04:20.230 of them okay so that's pretty bad right Scarlett 00:04:20.230 --> 00:04:23.930 um simply saw that somebody else was the center 00:04:23.930 --> 00:04:27.970 of attention and she couldn't handle it and the 00:04:27.970 --> 00:04:31.009 book describes her as predatory so this is before 00:04:31.009 --> 00:04:35.069 she has gone through anything i think it's pretty 00:04:35.069 --> 00:04:38.660 important to point that out that um This is before 00:04:38.660 --> 00:04:41.699 all of her trauma and such. However, one argument 00:04:41.699 --> 00:04:44.399 in Scarlett's favor here is that she is 16 years 00:04:44.399 --> 00:04:47.079 old. And I think that a lot of 16 year olds are 00:04:47.079 --> 00:04:49.720 self -centered. Maybe even all 16 year olds are 00:04:49.720 --> 00:04:55.079 self -centered most of the time. So... That is 00:04:55.079 --> 00:04:57.540 just an early way of showing us who Scarlett 00:04:57.540 --> 00:05:00.699 is. She is just naturally somebody who is kind 00:05:00.699 --> 00:05:04.879 of full of herself and likes to have everybody 00:05:04.879 --> 00:05:07.300 love her all the time instead of anybody else. 00:05:08.259 --> 00:05:13.600 So the book keeps going. One moment Scarlett 00:05:13.600 --> 00:05:17.800 has that is pretty nice early on is when she's 00:05:17.800 --> 00:05:21.410 on the way to the barbecue. She's thinking about 00:05:21.410 --> 00:05:23.709 her little sister, Corrine, and how she's really 00:05:23.709 --> 00:05:27.709 sweet. And she knows that Corrine has a crush 00:05:27.709 --> 00:05:31.149 on Brent. But Corrine is like, oh, but I know 00:05:31.149 --> 00:05:34.709 Brent has a crush on Scarlett. And Scarlett says, 00:05:34.889 --> 00:05:36.910 darling, I don't care a thing about Brent, declared 00:05:36.910 --> 00:05:39.129 Scarlett, happy enough to be generous. And he 00:05:39.129 --> 00:05:41.410 doesn't care a thing about me. Why? He's waiting 00:05:41.410 --> 00:05:43.699 for you to grow up. So that was a pretty nice 00:05:43.699 --> 00:05:45.480 thing for her to say. I think it shows she's 00:05:45.480 --> 00:05:48.600 not totally heartless. And then when they get 00:05:48.600 --> 00:05:51.459 to the barbecue, there's one point where India 00:05:51.459 --> 00:05:55.360 goes and talks to Stuart. And it says that the 00:05:55.360 --> 00:05:57.620 look she gave him gave Scarlett something like 00:05:57.620 --> 00:05:59.939 a twinge of conscience. It was the same look 00:05:59.939 --> 00:06:01.819 of belonging that Melanie wore when looking at 00:06:01.819 --> 00:06:04.740 Ashley. Only Stuart did not see it. So India 00:06:04.740 --> 00:06:09.420 did love him. And then it keeps going. She comforts 00:06:09.420 --> 00:06:12.379 herself with the idea that it's not her fault 00:06:12.379 --> 00:06:17.279 that India couldn't keep Stuart. Which is not 00:06:17.279 --> 00:06:20.560 very nice, but that's her way of deflecting guilt 00:06:20.560 --> 00:06:23.199 from herself, of telling herself that she didn't 00:06:23.199 --> 00:06:25.899 do anything wrong. And Scarlett does that a lot 00:06:25.899 --> 00:06:29.230 through this book. I think these early passages 00:06:29.230 --> 00:06:32.930 really show that she is somebody who doesn't 00:06:32.930 --> 00:06:35.610 like to admit when she's wrong, who doesn't like 00:06:35.610 --> 00:06:40.810 to own up to her own faults, and that is always 00:06:40.810 --> 00:06:43.490 able to find some sort of loophole in her moral 00:06:43.490 --> 00:06:46.959 feelings. And I think that... These qualities 00:06:46.959 --> 00:06:50.399 in the beginning of the book are really not so 00:06:50.399 --> 00:06:52.699 severe that it doesn't seem like she couldn't 00:06:52.699 --> 00:06:55.939 ever overcome them. They could just be a result 00:06:55.939 --> 00:07:01.399 of her being spoiled and very much pampered and 00:07:01.399 --> 00:07:04.939 looked after her entire life and always the center 00:07:04.939 --> 00:07:10.579 of attention. But as the book goes on and she 00:07:10.579 --> 00:07:14.470 goes through all of this horrible stuff, these 00:07:14.470 --> 00:07:18.649 bad qualities are more intensified. That is kind 00:07:18.649 --> 00:07:20.750 of where we're going to be going with the rest 00:07:20.750 --> 00:07:26.129 of this, I think. So let's keep going to probably 00:07:26.129 --> 00:07:30.029 what is Scarlett's most traumatic moment in the 00:07:30.029 --> 00:07:33.470 book. And this is a huge jump ahead, but it's 00:07:33.470 --> 00:07:36.990 when the shelling really starts in Atlanta. So 00:07:36.990 --> 00:07:41.279 prior to this, part of the book. Scarlet has 00:07:41.279 --> 00:07:44.120 been living, you know, a pretty normal life in 00:07:44.120 --> 00:07:47.040 Atlanta. Not that it is something she's ever 00:07:47.040 --> 00:07:49.500 really been through before. I mean, she's working 00:07:49.500 --> 00:07:52.879 as a nurse in the hospital. She has seen a lot 00:07:52.879 --> 00:07:55.800 of really gross and awful things, but her life 00:07:55.800 --> 00:07:59.699 still feels relatively secure before this chapter. 00:07:59.839 --> 00:08:02.620 Once the shelling starts and Aunt Pity Pat goes 00:08:02.620 --> 00:08:05.699 to Macon, she's left alone with Melanie, and 00:08:05.699 --> 00:08:09.129 Melanie's about to give birth. This is when I 00:08:09.129 --> 00:08:11.730 think Scarlett really gets her first dose of 00:08:11.730 --> 00:08:16.310 reality. So Melanie is definitely a character 00:08:16.310 --> 00:08:18.610 that people point to a lot when they talk about 00:08:18.610 --> 00:08:21.370 how Scarlett doesn't have empathy because Melanie 00:08:21.370 --> 00:08:25.449 is really, really sweet to Scarlett and Scarlett 00:08:25.449 --> 00:08:27.449 just doesn't care about it at all. She really 00:08:27.449 --> 00:08:30.149 cannot stand Melanie. Maybe it's because Melanie 00:08:30.149 --> 00:08:32.509 makes her feel bad about herself. I think it's 00:08:32.509 --> 00:08:34.590 mostly just because she's jealous because of 00:08:34.590 --> 00:08:39.830 Ashley. one quote that I think is kind of interesting. 00:08:40.070 --> 00:08:44.210 It's when Melanie is begging Scarlett to stay 00:08:44.210 --> 00:08:47.129 with her in Atlanta instead of refuging to Macon 00:08:47.129 --> 00:08:50.259 or Tara. And it says Scarlett stared down at 00:08:50.259 --> 00:08:52.779 her in wonderment with her own dislike of this 00:08:52.779 --> 00:08:54.960 woman so strong she could barely conceal it. 00:08:55.000 --> 00:08:57.460 How could Mellie love herself? How could Mellie 00:08:57.460 --> 00:09:00.100 be so stupid as not to guess the secret of her 00:09:00.100 --> 00:09:02.919 love of Ashley? She'd given herself away a hundred 00:09:02.919 --> 00:09:05.320 times during these months of torment, waiting 00:09:05.320 --> 00:09:07.759 for news of him. But Melanie saw nothing. Melanie, 00:09:07.840 --> 00:09:09.779 who could see nothing but good in anyone she 00:09:09.779 --> 00:09:12.519 loved. Yes, she had promised Ashley she would 00:09:12.519 --> 00:09:15.460 look out for Melanie. Oh, Ashley, Ashley, you 00:09:15.460 --> 00:09:17.720 must be dead, dead these many months. And now 00:09:17.720 --> 00:09:22.399 you're dead. Okay, so the reason I wanted to 00:09:22.399 --> 00:09:25.940 bring that quote up is because some people argue 00:09:25.940 --> 00:09:28.659 that the only reason Scarlett looks after Melanie 00:09:28.659 --> 00:09:31.679 in this chapter and in subsequent chapters is 00:09:31.679 --> 00:09:36.139 because of her promise to Ashley. So... We know 00:09:36.139 --> 00:09:38.480 that Scarlett is very much in love with this 00:09:38.480 --> 00:09:40.700 idea of Ashley that she has in her head, and 00:09:40.700 --> 00:09:42.899 Ashley is one character that she never really 00:09:42.899 --> 00:09:45.759 lacks empathy for. She doesn't understand him 00:09:45.759 --> 00:09:49.240 necessarily, but she does worry about him, and 00:09:49.240 --> 00:09:53.679 she is very upset by the idea of him ever being 00:09:53.679 --> 00:09:59.039 poor or unfed or cold or hungry or anything like 00:09:59.039 --> 00:10:03.240 that. She constantly has that sort of empathy 00:10:03.240 --> 00:10:05.870 for him. throughout the war when she's not with 00:10:05.870 --> 00:10:08.730 him and even a little bit when he first comes 00:10:08.730 --> 00:10:14.330 back from the war so it's kind of you know a 00:10:14.330 --> 00:10:17.750 point of contention between fans whether the 00:10:17.750 --> 00:10:20.149 only reason she looks after melanie is because 00:10:20.149 --> 00:10:24.990 of ashley but One part I think is kind of interesting 00:10:24.990 --> 00:10:29.690 is that during the shelling, Melanie is unable 00:10:29.690 --> 00:10:33.269 to get all the way into the cellar because she's 00:10:33.269 --> 00:10:35.509 in a delicate condition. She can't get all the 00:10:35.509 --> 00:10:39.350 way down there. And Prissy and Wade do go down 00:10:39.350 --> 00:10:42.570 there to shelter. And Scarlett, rather than joining 00:10:42.570 --> 00:10:46.149 them there, stays upstairs with Melanie. And 00:10:46.149 --> 00:10:48.610 the two of them basically... cuddle together 00:10:48.610 --> 00:10:52.309 in bed and just cry in each other's arms, which 00:10:52.309 --> 00:10:56.129 is very, very telling, I think, of their relationship. 00:10:56.370 --> 00:10:59.850 Scarlett does not hate her so much that she turns 00:10:59.850 --> 00:11:03.289 away from her comfort. And I really think that 00:11:03.289 --> 00:11:08.230 despite her promise to Ashley, Scarlett is totally 00:11:08.230 --> 00:11:10.570 capable of just going in the cellar with Wade 00:11:10.570 --> 00:11:13.210 and Prissy, but she opts to stay with Melanie. 00:11:15.149 --> 00:11:18.169 So that is kind of our first sense, I think, 00:11:18.169 --> 00:11:21.149 of Scarlett's sense of duty. Scarlett is extremely 00:11:21.149 --> 00:11:25.970 dutiful, even if she's not always very attentive 00:11:25.970 --> 00:11:28.269 to other people's feelings. She always makes 00:11:28.269 --> 00:11:30.470 sure they're taken care of. And I think that 00:11:30.470 --> 00:11:33.350 that can be seen as a form of empathy because 00:11:33.350 --> 00:11:36.610 she does take care of people's physical needs. 00:11:37.149 --> 00:11:41.909 Which brings me to my next point, which is Wade 00:11:41.909 --> 00:11:48.070 Hampton. Scarlett is shown as someone who is 00:11:48.070 --> 00:11:50.950 not a very great mother. She doesn't have a lot 00:11:50.950 --> 00:11:55.090 of empathy for her son. In this next chapter, 00:11:55.129 --> 00:11:59.070 when they are trying to leave Atlanta right after 00:11:59.070 --> 00:12:04.590 Melanie gives birth, Scarlett just basically 00:12:04.590 --> 00:12:08.330 has no pity for him at all. There's a line where 00:12:08.330 --> 00:12:12.350 he's like, Wade hungry. He sobbed and put the 00:12:12.350 --> 00:12:14.750 hurt finger in his mouth. And she says, I don't 00:12:14.750 --> 00:12:19.549 care. Go in the backyard. So imagine a child 00:12:19.549 --> 00:12:22.029 tells you, your own child, I'm hungry. And you 00:12:22.029 --> 00:12:25.649 say, I don't care. And granted, Scarlett is in 00:12:25.649 --> 00:12:30.169 this really stressed out position. She is absolutely 00:12:30.169 --> 00:12:32.730 out of her mind with terror that she's not going 00:12:32.730 --> 00:12:35.169 to be able to deliver Melanie's baby. And then 00:12:35.169 --> 00:12:38.559 later when they're refugeeing. Sorry, I skipped 00:12:38.559 --> 00:12:40.519 back a little bit. But what I meant to say was 00:12:40.519 --> 00:12:43.899 later when they're refuging, there's a part where 00:12:43.899 --> 00:12:46.419 everybody has to get out of the wagon so that 00:12:46.419 --> 00:12:50.820 the horse can climb the hill. And Scarlet tells 00:12:50.820 --> 00:12:54.860 Wade to stop crying or she'll come over there 00:12:54.860 --> 00:12:59.240 and slap him. So this is a terrified child, right? 00:12:59.639 --> 00:13:03.779 They are trying to get out of Atlanta back to 00:13:03.779 --> 00:13:09.620 Tara. And they've been basically bombed and they 00:13:09.620 --> 00:13:14.860 have seen all these you know fire in the distance 00:13:14.860 --> 00:13:18.279 and wade is like this little toddler boy and 00:13:18.279 --> 00:13:20.620 he has absolutely no clue what's going on and 00:13:20.620 --> 00:13:24.139 scarlet it says she has no compassion for the 00:13:24.139 --> 00:13:30.480 frightened child um She thinks to herself, why 00:13:30.480 --> 00:13:32.960 had God invented children, she thought savagely 00:13:32.960 --> 00:13:35.039 as she turned her ankle cruelly on the dark road. 00:13:35.740 --> 00:13:38.360 Useless, crying nuisances they were, always demanding 00:13:38.360 --> 00:13:41.460 care, always in the way. In her exhaustion, there 00:13:41.460 --> 00:13:43.360 was no room for compassion for the frightened 00:13:43.360 --> 00:13:45.679 child, trotting by Prissy's side, dragging at 00:13:45.679 --> 00:13:48.399 her hand and sniffling. Only a weariness that 00:13:48.399 --> 00:13:50.840 she had borne him, only a tired wonder that she 00:13:50.840 --> 00:13:55.360 had ever married Charles Hamilton. This is her 00:13:55.360 --> 00:14:01.720 own child. This is not just any child. And at 00:14:01.720 --> 00:14:05.559 her young age, she's 19 years old here. She has 00:14:05.559 --> 00:14:09.240 had him for, I don't know, two, three years now. 00:14:09.379 --> 00:14:12.960 And she is unable to muster any sort of sympathy 00:14:12.960 --> 00:14:16.679 for him. And the reason for that is because she 00:14:16.679 --> 00:14:21.039 is so afraid herself. Um, so Scarlett is one 00:14:21.039 --> 00:14:24.120 of those people who when she is under stress, 00:14:24.379 --> 00:14:29.539 she is unable to take care of others. And I guess 00:14:29.539 --> 00:14:32.480 if we look at it through the lens of like Maslow's 00:14:32.480 --> 00:14:36.679 hierarchy of needs, maybe it's just that she 00:14:36.679 --> 00:14:42.450 is so... is lacking in her own needs in the moment 00:14:42.450 --> 00:14:45.289 that she cannot put others before herself. But 00:14:45.289 --> 00:14:47.669 that might be a little generous to say. I mean, 00:14:47.690 --> 00:14:49.590 she definitely could have been a little kinder. 00:14:52.590 --> 00:14:55.629 And so weight is a very interesting case. Later 00:14:55.629 --> 00:14:59.470 on when they are starving, sorry, I'm jumping 00:14:59.470 --> 00:15:02.269 around a lot, but I kind of have to because this 00:15:02.269 --> 00:15:06.129 is such a broad topic. Later when they're starving, 00:15:07.100 --> 00:15:10.320 There's a scene where Scarlett slaps him again 00:15:10.320 --> 00:15:14.460 and she says she has no time to figure out what 00:15:14.460 --> 00:15:17.700 is wrong with him. And the thing that makes Scarlett 00:15:17.700 --> 00:15:21.279 interesting is that the book also states that 00:15:21.279 --> 00:15:24.120 this bothers her. She's very bothered that he 00:15:24.120 --> 00:15:27.639 starts to... um become frightened of her that 00:15:27.639 --> 00:15:29.679 he starts to avoid her and spend more time with 00:15:29.679 --> 00:15:31.720 Melanie and she feels jealous that he's doing 00:15:31.720 --> 00:15:34.659 it I think that if Scarlett were completely heartless 00:15:34.659 --> 00:15:37.259 and without feelings that she wouldn't have that 00:15:37.259 --> 00:15:40.379 sort of reaction to him avoiding her she'd probably 00:15:40.379 --> 00:15:43.700 just be grateful for it but I think that she 00:15:43.700 --> 00:15:47.220 can see her own shortcomings in in the way that 00:15:47.220 --> 00:15:50.019 she treats him but she just doesn't have the 00:15:50.019 --> 00:15:53.840 mental capacity at the moment um when she's the 00:15:53.840 --> 00:15:58.019 head of the household to be able to fix anything 00:15:58.019 --> 00:16:02.080 with him and then later on she is still motivated 00:16:02.080 --> 00:16:06.600 by all this money frenzy and she can't do anything 00:16:06.600 --> 00:16:10.340 about it she feels and then she kind of eventually 00:16:10.340 --> 00:16:13.299 feels that it's too late but I'm getting ahead 00:16:13.299 --> 00:16:17.759 of myself I want to kind of go back to this whole 00:16:17.759 --> 00:16:24.940 chapter where she is going to Tara again because 00:16:24.940 --> 00:16:27.440 this is the chapter where she changes the most 00:16:27.440 --> 00:16:32.100 I think um when she's going back to Tara after 00:16:32.100 --> 00:16:35.379 Melanie's birth there's also a little scene where 00:16:35.379 --> 00:16:40.799 Melanie she looks back at her and she can see 00:16:40.799 --> 00:16:44.120 that she doesn't look very well it says she lay 00:16:44.120 --> 00:16:48.059 with sick eyes closed against the sun And Scarlet 00:16:48.059 --> 00:16:50.580 immediately takes off her bonnet, says, put that 00:16:50.580 --> 00:16:52.460 over her face, it'll keep the sun out of her 00:16:52.460 --> 00:16:55.519 eyes. And it says, the heat beat down upon her 00:16:55.519 --> 00:16:58.000 unprotected head, she thought, I'll be as freckled 00:16:58.000 --> 00:17:00.460 as a guinea egg before this day is over. She 00:17:00.460 --> 00:17:02.259 had never in her life been out in the sunshine 00:17:02.259 --> 00:17:05.759 without a hat or veils, never handled rains without 00:17:05.759 --> 00:17:07.799 gloves to protect the white skin of her dimpled 00:17:07.799 --> 00:17:10.680 hands. Yet here she was, exposed to the sun in 00:17:10.680 --> 00:17:12.799 a broken -down wagon with a broken -down horse, 00:17:13.000 --> 00:17:15.480 dirty, sweaty, hungry, helpless to do anything 00:17:15.480 --> 00:17:17.859 but plot along. a snail's pace through a deserted 00:17:17.859 --> 00:17:23.059 land okay so my point in bringing that up is 00:17:23.059 --> 00:17:28.279 that even in her pain and her exhaustion um scarlet 00:17:28.279 --> 00:17:31.359 takes off her own bonnet and puts it on top of 00:17:31.359 --> 00:17:36.480 melanie to keep her eyes out of the sun so There's 00:17:36.480 --> 00:17:39.359 just so much contrast in this whole chapter. 00:17:39.500 --> 00:17:41.579 There's the way she treats Wade, and then there's 00:17:41.579 --> 00:17:43.259 the way she treats Prissy, and there's the way 00:17:43.259 --> 00:17:46.500 she treats Melanie. And in her head, she's cursing 00:17:46.500 --> 00:17:49.740 them all and she hates them all. But at the end 00:17:49.740 --> 00:17:51.920 of the day, she is doing what she can for them. 00:17:52.039 --> 00:17:55.380 And I think that sometimes providing can be a 00:17:55.380 --> 00:17:58.299 way of showing that you care about somebody. 00:17:59.309 --> 00:18:02.109 And I think that maybe even Scarlet doesn't understand 00:18:02.109 --> 00:18:04.730 that herself. She doesn't understand why it is 00:18:04.730 --> 00:18:07.769 that she is always looking after everyone. But 00:18:07.769 --> 00:18:11.529 in the chapter following the one where she first 00:18:11.529 --> 00:18:17.410 gets home is where the book establishes that 00:18:17.410 --> 00:18:20.269 she's really changing into this cold person who 00:18:20.269 --> 00:18:23.390 is suddenly unable to have empathy for anyone 00:18:23.390 --> 00:18:25.190 around her. And I think the book pretty much 00:18:25.190 --> 00:18:29.339 states this. It says she... doesn't have any 00:18:29.339 --> 00:18:32.099 patience anymore for kindness for Sue Ellen and 00:18:32.099 --> 00:18:35.980 Corrine. When they're sick, she just tells them 00:18:35.980 --> 00:18:38.740 that they have to get up as soon as they're better 00:18:38.740 --> 00:18:41.059 and help her out and split kindling and pick 00:18:41.059 --> 00:18:45.059 cotton and everything like that. She doesn't 00:18:45.059 --> 00:18:49.759 have a lot of sympathy for the servants who are 00:18:49.759 --> 00:18:55.980 refusing to help her. She doesn't really... have 00:18:55.980 --> 00:18:59.579 sympathy for wade as i said she does have a little 00:18:59.579 --> 00:19:02.059 for her father who's basically lost his mind 00:19:02.059 --> 00:19:06.299 but she she's really unable to see anything from 00:19:06.299 --> 00:19:09.799 anybody's point of view and when i say the servants 00:19:09.799 --> 00:19:12.849 refusing to help her i'm talking about scene 00:19:12.849 --> 00:19:15.589 where they're picking cotton. I'm not saying 00:19:15.589 --> 00:19:17.950 that they're always refusing to help her or with 00:19:17.950 --> 00:19:21.569 anything, but she gets really frustrated in this 00:19:21.569 --> 00:19:24.630 one scene with Mamie and Pork because they're 00:19:24.630 --> 00:19:26.309 not helping her pick cotton and the only one 00:19:26.309 --> 00:19:29.109 who will help her is Dilsey and her sisters won't 00:19:29.109 --> 00:19:32.529 help her either. So this all leads Scarlet to 00:19:32.529 --> 00:19:35.430 believe that she's on her own and everything 00:19:35.430 --> 00:19:38.250 that her mother taught her was wrong and there's 00:19:38.250 --> 00:19:40.869 simply no point in being kind or gentle anymore 00:19:40.869 --> 00:19:44.829 because the world that she knew before was gone 00:19:44.829 --> 00:19:49.730 and so what was the point of all of the that 00:19:49.730 --> 00:19:52.750 kindness and politeness if this is what it led 00:19:52.750 --> 00:19:58.470 them to and this is also the chapter where she 00:19:58.470 --> 00:20:01.450 kind of becomes a bully it says scarlet reigned 00:20:01.450 --> 00:20:04.509 supreme at terra now and like others suddenly 00:20:04.509 --> 00:20:07.250 elevated to authority all the bullying instincts 00:20:07.250 --> 00:20:10.210 in her nature rose to the surface it was not 00:20:10.210 --> 00:20:12.970 that she was basically unkind it was because 00:20:12.970 --> 00:20:15.650 she was so frightened and unsure of herself she 00:20:15.650 --> 00:20:18.049 was harsh lest others learn her inadequacies 00:20:18.049 --> 00:20:21.039 and refuse her authority Besides, there was some 00:20:21.039 --> 00:20:23.079 pleasure in shouting at people and knowing they 00:20:23.079 --> 00:20:26.000 were afraid. Scarlet found that it relieved her 00:20:26.000 --> 00:20:29.089 overwrought nerves. She was not blind to the 00:20:29.089 --> 00:20:32.109 fact that her personality was changing. Sometimes 00:20:32.109 --> 00:20:34.609 when her curt orders made pork stick out his 00:20:34.609 --> 00:20:37.049 under lip and mammy mutter, some folks rides 00:20:37.049 --> 00:20:40.750 mighty high these days, she wondered where her 00:20:40.750 --> 00:20:43.269 good manners had gone. All the courtesy, all 00:20:43.269 --> 00:20:45.650 the gentleness Ellen had striven to instill in 00:20:45.650 --> 00:20:47.930 her had fallen away from her as quickly as leaves 00:20:47.930 --> 00:20:50.349 fall from trees in the first chill wind of autumn. 00:20:51.660 --> 00:20:56.319 Okay, so that to me is honestly one of the saddest 00:20:56.319 --> 00:21:02.980 paragraphs in the book because it shows how Scarlett's 00:21:02.980 --> 00:21:06.259 character is developing and not necessarily for 00:21:06.259 --> 00:21:10.160 the better. One thing that kind of bothers me 00:21:10.160 --> 00:21:14.779 when people talk about Scarlett is when people 00:21:14.779 --> 00:21:18.019 say that she doesn't change at all, that she 00:21:18.019 --> 00:21:21.289 doesn't... learn from her mistakes or mature 00:21:21.289 --> 00:21:24.990 in any way. I think that people who say that 00:21:24.990 --> 00:21:28.829 are kind of failing to realize what character 00:21:28.829 --> 00:21:32.769 development is. It's not always necessarily a 00:21:32.769 --> 00:21:35.630 character maturing. And I think that Scarlett 00:21:35.630 --> 00:21:38.269 does mature in a way. I think that she becomes 00:21:38.269 --> 00:21:42.240 less spoiled. and more willing to work. She's 00:21:42.240 --> 00:21:44.460 very hardworking. I don't think the Scarlet from 00:21:44.460 --> 00:21:46.859 the beginning of the book would have ever considered 00:21:46.859 --> 00:21:51.339 herself capable of picking cotton or of shooting 00:21:51.339 --> 00:21:55.039 a Yankee or facing down Sherman's army when they 00:21:55.039 --> 00:22:00.599 invade. I think that she definitely matured in 00:22:00.599 --> 00:22:02.900 that way, but I also think that... the book goes 00:22:02.900 --> 00:22:05.900 out of its way to show how she gets worse. I 00:22:05.900 --> 00:22:10.000 think it goes to show that she doesn't have a 00:22:10.000 --> 00:22:12.339 lot of guidance at this point in her life. I 00:22:12.339 --> 00:22:15.220 mean, she goes through this really, really traumatic 00:22:15.220 --> 00:22:20.059 day helping Melanie give birth. Then she is in 00:22:20.059 --> 00:22:22.660 charge of taking everybody home when Rhett abandons 00:22:22.660 --> 00:22:26.079 her on the road. And when she gets home, she 00:22:26.079 --> 00:22:28.599 finds out that her mother is dead. Her father 00:22:28.599 --> 00:22:34.619 has basically lost his mind. Nobody is really 00:22:34.619 --> 00:22:37.779 looking to anybody but her for leadership. She's 00:22:37.779 --> 00:22:39.740 suddenly the head of the household and she's 00:22:39.740 --> 00:22:43.380 only 19 years old. And because she doesn't have 00:22:43.380 --> 00:22:48.420 any sort of guidance, I think that all of her 00:22:48.420 --> 00:22:53.200 negative qualities come to light and she becomes 00:22:53.200 --> 00:22:55.940 this much harsher, colder version of herself. 00:22:56.700 --> 00:23:02.410 She's not able to find any sort of solace in 00:23:02.410 --> 00:23:06.349 anything and so she just becomes harsh because 00:23:06.349 --> 00:23:08.789 she doesn't really understand what else to do. 00:23:09.029 --> 00:23:12.289 The one time when she does get some guidance 00:23:12.289 --> 00:23:14.670 is when she finally gets the horse after shooting 00:23:14.670 --> 00:23:17.210 the Yankees, and she rides over to the first 00:23:17.210 --> 00:23:20.029 plantation nearby, which is the Fontaines, and 00:23:20.029 --> 00:23:23.170 she talks to Grandma Fontaine, who, if you haven't 00:23:23.170 --> 00:23:25.789 read the book, is an older lady, and she gives 00:23:25.789 --> 00:23:27.990 Scarlet some advice and helps her out, and from 00:23:27.990 --> 00:23:31.309 that point on, Scarlet is a little bit better, 00:23:31.369 --> 00:23:34.390 but the trauma that she went through never fully 00:23:34.390 --> 00:23:37.019 goes away. She starts to develop these awful 00:23:37.019 --> 00:23:41.039 nightmares where she constantly wakes up screaming, 00:23:41.160 --> 00:23:45.940 terrified. She's very, very afraid of ever being 00:23:45.940 --> 00:23:49.079 hungry again. Things do get better. The book 00:23:49.079 --> 00:23:52.779 shows that things get a lot better after the 00:23:52.779 --> 00:23:57.500 surrender and she's able to finally find food 00:23:57.500 --> 00:24:02.000 again. But she never really changes back to how 00:24:02.000 --> 00:24:06.849 she was. And I think that... The book kind of 00:24:06.849 --> 00:24:10.670 shows her in contrast with Melanie in this way. 00:24:10.869 --> 00:24:14.069 Melanie always retains her gentleness and her 00:24:14.069 --> 00:24:16.289 kindness no matter what happens, whereas Scarlet 00:24:16.289 --> 00:24:19.869 just loses them completely as soon as she is 00:24:19.869 --> 00:24:23.210 faced with something very difficult. But it's 00:24:23.210 --> 00:24:25.349 also hard not to admire Scarlet in these scenes. 00:24:25.450 --> 00:24:28.410 I mean, she's very brave, and she does work very, 00:24:28.450 --> 00:24:32.190 very hard to protect her family. And the book 00:24:32.190 --> 00:24:35.529 does... state that she is doing all of this to 00:24:35.529 --> 00:24:40.690 protect her family. Later on, when there is the 00:24:40.690 --> 00:24:44.670 whole issue with the tax money, Scarlett is considering 00:24:44.670 --> 00:24:48.630 marrying Rhett, and this is the first thing she 00:24:48.630 --> 00:24:50.269 thinks to herself at the prospect of getting 00:24:50.269 --> 00:24:53.930 money. Millions in gold. She could repair Tara 00:24:53.930 --> 00:24:56.589 and hire hands and plant miles and miles of cotton. 00:24:56.950 --> 00:24:59.009 And she could have pretty clothes and all she 00:24:59.009 --> 00:25:01.250 wanted to eat and so could Sue Ellen and Corrine. 00:25:01.650 --> 00:25:04.029 And Wade could have nourishing food to fill out 00:25:04.029 --> 00:25:06.349 his thin cheeks and warm clothes and a governess 00:25:06.349 --> 00:25:09.049 and afterward go to the university and not grow 00:25:09.049 --> 00:25:11.950 up barefooted and ignorant like a cracker. And 00:25:11.950 --> 00:25:14.309 a good doctor could look after Pa and as for 00:25:14.309 --> 00:25:18.990 Ashley, what couldn't she do for Ashley? So, 00:25:19.690 --> 00:25:22.509 This quote, I think, is pretty important. Scarlett 00:25:22.509 --> 00:25:24.589 does think a little bit about herself when she 00:25:24.589 --> 00:25:26.289 says she could have pretty clothes and all she 00:25:26.289 --> 00:25:30.210 wanted to eat. But this whole scene where she's 00:25:30.210 --> 00:25:32.509 thinking about money, she thinks very much about 00:25:32.509 --> 00:25:34.990 her family. She thinks about her family home, 00:25:35.150 --> 00:25:37.430 her sisters, whom she doesn't particularly like. 00:25:38.299 --> 00:25:40.779 about Wade, who she doesn't treat very well, 00:25:40.940 --> 00:25:45.680 her dad, Ashley. She really, really wants to 00:25:45.680 --> 00:25:48.480 just provide for everybody. That is the first 00:25:48.480 --> 00:25:50.759 thing she thinks about in terms of money. And 00:25:50.759 --> 00:25:52.660 I think that goes to show that she does care. 00:25:53.019 --> 00:25:55.859 She has a really funny way of showing it. I'm 00:25:55.859 --> 00:25:59.710 not going to lie. I don't think that you can 00:25:59.710 --> 00:26:02.710 read the whole book thoroughly and say Scarlett 00:26:02.710 --> 00:26:06.730 has absolutely no empathy for anybody because 00:26:06.730 --> 00:26:09.170 she does have these little moments like this 00:26:09.170 --> 00:26:12.450 where she wants her loved ones to have what's 00:26:12.450 --> 00:26:17.259 best for them. Later on... again about wade there's 00:26:17.259 --> 00:26:20.240 a scene where she's talking to ret and she's 00:26:20.240 --> 00:26:22.539 saying she's never going to be hungry again and 00:26:22.539 --> 00:26:25.059 she puts in and wade isn't ever going to know 00:26:25.059 --> 00:26:27.019 what it means to do without the things he needs 00:26:27.019 --> 00:26:29.299 never he's going to have everything in the world 00:26:29.299 --> 00:26:31.880 and all my family they aren't ever going to be 00:26:31.880 --> 00:26:35.660 hungry again i mean it every word you don't understand 00:26:35.660 --> 00:26:39.119 you're such a selfish hound so scarlet is thinking 00:26:39.119 --> 00:26:42.160 of herself as being unselfish in comparison to 00:26:42.160 --> 00:26:46.990 ret which is pretty interesting and I just find 00:26:46.990 --> 00:26:50.549 it so fascinating that Wade is this character 00:26:50.549 --> 00:26:55.029 who she is shown to have not wanted she doesn't 00:26:55.029 --> 00:26:57.829 really care about him on surface level or so 00:26:57.829 --> 00:27:00.630 it seems in the beginning of the book she tends 00:27:00.630 --> 00:27:03.230 to forget that he exists she doesn't mind that 00:27:03.230 --> 00:27:06.710 she barely sees him But as soon as she is faced 00:27:06.710 --> 00:27:11.150 with this extreme poverty, she is very bothered 00:27:11.150 --> 00:27:15.349 by the fact that he is suffering and she wants 00:27:15.349 --> 00:27:18.809 him to have the best things in life, as she states 00:27:18.809 --> 00:27:25.529 more than once. So clearly, Wade did have some 00:27:25.529 --> 00:27:28.829 sort of impact on her growing up and seeing him 00:27:28.829 --> 00:27:34.210 starving did affect her. So if you're going to 00:27:34.210 --> 00:27:37.109 point out to her being this terrible mother as 00:27:37.109 --> 00:27:39.650 a reason why she's a bad character, I think that 00:27:39.650 --> 00:27:42.809 is valid. But one of the things that makes Scarlett 00:27:42.809 --> 00:27:46.509 so complex is that she does have this sort of 00:27:46.509 --> 00:27:49.329 affection for him that's buried way, way, way 00:27:49.329 --> 00:27:51.750 deep down. And you can also see this in the scene 00:27:51.750 --> 00:27:55.869 where she gets the sword back for him from Sherman, 00:27:56.049 --> 00:27:59.730 Sherman's army. When they show up at Tara, they're 00:27:59.730 --> 00:28:02.130 robbing the house, taking all of this stuff away. 00:28:02.670 --> 00:28:07.190 And she sees them taking Charles's sword, which 00:28:07.190 --> 00:28:09.829 belongs to Wade. And there's a line about how 00:28:09.829 --> 00:28:11.890 she could bear to see all of her things being 00:28:11.890 --> 00:28:13.950 taken away, but she could not stand them taking 00:28:13.950 --> 00:28:16.170 away the sword because it was her little boy's 00:28:16.170 --> 00:28:23.490 pride and joy. So Wade is just very, very complicated. 00:28:24.410 --> 00:28:28.619 Her relationship with him. is pretty bad overall 00:28:28.619 --> 00:28:31.819 i would say they don't have a close relationship 00:28:31.819 --> 00:28:35.440 he's very afraid of her and she doesn't always 00:28:35.440 --> 00:28:41.220 want him around but at the same time she does 00:28:41.220 --> 00:28:46.539 in her own weird way care about him anyway uh 00:28:46.539 --> 00:28:52.779 one other really bad thing she does um not long 00:28:52.779 --> 00:28:56.539 after this is when she steals Sue Ellen's fiance. 00:28:57.099 --> 00:28:59.539 Now, when I first read the book, I absolutely 00:28:59.539 --> 00:29:02.039 could not believe what I was reading when I got 00:29:02.039 --> 00:29:05.500 to this part because Scarlett, you know, she 00:29:05.500 --> 00:29:07.839 had had this whole conversation with Frank about 00:29:07.839 --> 00:29:10.000 him getting engaged to Sue Ellen. It says that 00:29:10.000 --> 00:29:13.220 she felt really touched by his declaration of 00:29:13.220 --> 00:29:18.319 love for him, for her, for Sue Ellen. And Scarlett 00:29:18.319 --> 00:29:20.319 is rarely touched by anything. And I remember 00:29:20.319 --> 00:29:23.079 thinking that was such a sweet moment. And then 00:29:23.660 --> 00:29:27.440 As soon as Scarlett is desperate again, as soon 00:29:27.440 --> 00:29:30.339 as she is feeling just absolutely desolate and 00:29:30.339 --> 00:29:33.680 like she is going to lose her home, she decides 00:29:33.680 --> 00:29:36.799 she's going to lie to Frank and say that Sue 00:29:36.799 --> 00:29:40.400 Ellen's going to marry somebody else. And there 00:29:40.400 --> 00:29:44.700 is the whole line. um where or this whole paragraph 00:29:44.700 --> 00:29:48.079 where she is talking about how you know frank's 00:29:48.079 --> 00:29:51.779 no beauty and um quite annoying to me but you 00:29:51.779 --> 00:29:55.079 know he he could get me money and stuff and she's 00:29:55.079 --> 00:29:58.539 just appraising him very very coldly and then 00:29:59.130 --> 00:30:01.950 It says that he was Sue Ellen's fiancee caused 00:30:01.950 --> 00:30:04.690 her no qualm of conscience. After the complete 00:30:04.690 --> 00:30:07.609 moral collapse, which sent her to Atlanta and 00:30:07.609 --> 00:30:10.309 to Rett, the appropriation of her sister's betrothed 00:30:10.309 --> 00:30:12.589 seemed in minor affair and one not to be bothered 00:30:12.589 --> 00:30:16.630 with at this time. Okay, that is just a crazy 00:30:16.630 --> 00:30:20.049 line to me that she could think so coldly about 00:30:20.049 --> 00:30:23.009 her sister and her happiness. I have two sisters. 00:30:23.109 --> 00:30:25.410 I don't think that I could ever think that way 00:30:25.410 --> 00:30:28.480 about. my sisters, no matter how mad I was at 00:30:28.480 --> 00:30:31.720 them about anything or how much I felt like I 00:30:31.720 --> 00:30:33.980 disliked them. It wouldn't really matter. I would 00:30:33.980 --> 00:30:36.220 know that I was ruining somebody's chances of 00:30:36.220 --> 00:30:39.140 happiness for the future. And I know that I could 00:30:39.140 --> 00:30:41.759 never do this, or at least I think so. I've never 00:30:41.759 --> 00:30:48.240 been in Scarlett's position, right? So that definitely 00:30:48.240 --> 00:30:50.839 is a line that points to her lack of empathy. 00:30:51.240 --> 00:30:56.500 But later on, When Frank dies, Scarlett kind 00:30:56.500 --> 00:30:58.680 of has a turnaround at this point, but we'll 00:30:58.680 --> 00:31:04.200 get to that in a second. Scarlett has her second 00:31:04.200 --> 00:31:08.480 baby, Ella, with Frank, and I think one of the 00:31:08.480 --> 00:31:10.980 best conversations she has in the book with Rhett 00:31:10.980 --> 00:31:15.680 about her own moral failings is right after she's 00:31:15.680 --> 00:31:18.839 had Ella and she's talking with him about... 00:31:19.420 --> 00:31:22.119 how different she's become. She's just hired 00:31:22.119 --> 00:31:24.579 convicts to work in the sawmill that she bought. 00:31:25.519 --> 00:31:29.220 And she says to Rhett, there's a time for all 00:31:29.220 --> 00:31:31.400 things. When I've got plenty of money, I'll be 00:31:31.400 --> 00:31:33.880 as nice as you please too. Butter won't melt 00:31:33.880 --> 00:31:37.019 in my mouth then. I can afford to be then. And 00:31:37.019 --> 00:31:39.140 then Rhett says, and I absolutely love this quote. 00:31:39.839 --> 00:31:42.640 You can afford to be, but you won't. It's hard 00:31:42.640 --> 00:31:45.400 to salvage jettisoned cargo, and if it is retrieved, 00:31:45.440 --> 00:31:48.400 it's usually irreparably damaged. And I fear 00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:50.420 that when you can afford to fish up the honor 00:31:50.420 --> 00:31:52.380 and virtue and kindness you've thrown overboard, 00:31:52.740 --> 00:31:55.200 you'll find they have suffered a sea change and 00:31:55.200 --> 00:31:57.319 not, I fear, into something rich and strange. 00:31:58.000 --> 00:32:00.599 Okay, so he was quoting Shakespeare there at 00:32:00.599 --> 00:32:02.220 the end, of course, because it's Rhett. He's 00:32:02.220 --> 00:32:06.380 always making allusions. But I absolutely love 00:32:06.380 --> 00:32:09.799 that quote about being unable to salvage. cargo 00:32:09.799 --> 00:32:13.660 that's been thrown overboard it's so true scarlet 00:32:13.660 --> 00:32:18.799 decides to just forget about honor and kindness 00:32:18.799 --> 00:32:22.440 for a while and then later when she's rich and 00:32:22.440 --> 00:32:24.380 she's married to ret she tries to summon them 00:32:24.380 --> 00:32:27.319 up again and she finds that she really isn't 00:32:27.319 --> 00:32:30.740 able to do it so easily and she finds that a 00:32:30.740 --> 00:32:32.660 lot of people really want nothing to do with 00:32:32.660 --> 00:32:34.960 her anymore anyway she loses a lot of friends 00:32:34.960 --> 00:32:40.900 i think that this is the whole point of her character 00:32:40.900 --> 00:32:45.980 arc right here. She has all this gumption, she 00:32:45.980 --> 00:32:49.880 has a lot of bravery, and she has a lot of admirable 00:32:49.880 --> 00:32:53.640 qualities to be sure. But she got rid of some 00:32:53.640 --> 00:32:57.859 of the most important ones in order to be successful. 00:32:58.519 --> 00:33:02.480 She decided to always go the unscrupulous route 00:33:02.480 --> 00:33:04.500 in order to get what she wanted. And I think 00:33:04.500 --> 00:33:07.200 that's what the book is trying to say. People 00:33:07.200 --> 00:33:13.059 who survive do so by being unscrupulous. People 00:33:13.059 --> 00:33:16.680 who, no, not the people who survive. People who 00:33:16.680 --> 00:33:21.799 thrive do so by being unscrupulous. If she had 00:33:21.799 --> 00:33:24.079 just wanted to survive, she could have let Tara 00:33:24.079 --> 00:33:26.619 go to taxes. She could have let Soelle and Mary 00:33:26.619 --> 00:33:28.640 Frank. They could have all just crowded into 00:33:28.640 --> 00:33:31.039 Aunt Pity's house, which Scarlett half -owned. 00:33:31.279 --> 00:33:34.940 But she chose not to do that. She chose to steal 00:33:34.940 --> 00:33:38.259 her sister's fiancé because she... That was what 00:33:38.259 --> 00:33:40.640 she wanted and what she felt would get the best 00:33:40.640 --> 00:33:44.420 end results. And she didn't worry at all about 00:33:44.420 --> 00:33:47.079 how Sue Ellen would feel about it. I kind of 00:33:47.079 --> 00:33:49.400 wish the movie had not cut out everything to 00:33:49.400 --> 00:33:52.119 do with Sue Ellen and Gerald's death because 00:33:52.119 --> 00:33:54.920 I think that showed that Scarlett's action here 00:33:54.920 --> 00:33:58.140 really had a consequence because if she had not 00:33:58.140 --> 00:34:00.980 made Sue Ellen so angry in that way and not cared 00:34:00.980 --> 00:34:03.359 about how she felt, then Gerald would not have 00:34:03.359 --> 00:34:08.659 died in such an awful way. So I thought that 00:34:08.659 --> 00:34:10.280 scene was pretty important, but I understand 00:34:10.280 --> 00:34:12.179 why they telescoped it in the movie. There just 00:34:12.179 --> 00:34:16.199 wasn't a ton of time to get to it. But anyway, 00:34:16.480 --> 00:34:20.300 one of the... Best parts, I think, in the whole 00:34:20.300 --> 00:34:22.880 book is her proposal scene with Rhett, and not 00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:25.360 just because he proposes to her, but also the 00:34:25.360 --> 00:34:28.400 conversation before where Scarlet, for the very 00:34:28.400 --> 00:34:31.280 first time, starts to feel guilty. She has all 00:34:31.280 --> 00:34:34.179 of these feelings about Frank's death. She buys 00:34:34.179 --> 00:34:37.940 into the idea that she really did kill him, even 00:34:37.940 --> 00:34:41.199 though it wasn't really her fault. She was being 00:34:41.199 --> 00:34:43.519 reckless, but the way that everybody blames her 00:34:43.519 --> 00:34:47.019 for it is kind of unfair. But even so, Scarlett 00:34:47.019 --> 00:34:49.460 believes that she's responsible for her husband's 00:34:49.460 --> 00:34:52.219 death. And she feels horrible in that moment 00:34:52.219 --> 00:34:55.400 all of a sudden for stealing Frank from Sue Ellen. 00:34:55.500 --> 00:34:57.960 She thinks that he loved her and not me and I 00:34:57.960 --> 00:35:00.079 should have just let them get married. And I 00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:02.420 don't see how I could have done this. My mother 00:35:02.420 --> 00:35:05.239 didn't raise me to be that way. And she has a 00:35:05.239 --> 00:35:07.639 line that says, I've been so mean, but I'm not 00:35:07.639 --> 00:35:11.940 really mean. And I just love this part so much 00:35:11.940 --> 00:35:15.889 because It just shows what a very unique character 00:35:15.889 --> 00:35:19.829 Scarlet is. I feel like with a lot of antiheroes 00:35:19.829 --> 00:35:24.409 in fiction, they are completely happy with being 00:35:24.409 --> 00:35:27.210 mean and they don't ever really take the time 00:35:27.210 --> 00:35:29.269 to go back and look at themselves in the mirror 00:35:29.269 --> 00:35:32.429 until the very end. And Scarlet is having one 00:35:32.429 --> 00:35:35.630 of those moments where she is thinking about 00:35:35.630 --> 00:35:38.429 how she wants to be good. I feel like a lot of 00:35:38.429 --> 00:35:41.909 antiheroes... don't want to be good. They don't 00:35:41.909 --> 00:35:48.309 have that motivation to want to be like, I don't 00:35:48.309 --> 00:35:50.230 know, someone they admire. Like Scarlett wants 00:35:50.230 --> 00:35:53.190 to be like her mother. She wants to emulate all 00:35:53.190 --> 00:35:56.690 of those wonderful qualities she has. And she's 00:35:56.690 --> 00:35:59.329 never quite able to do that. And here she's kind 00:35:59.329 --> 00:36:05.280 of feeling that blow. I think that that is what 00:36:05.280 --> 00:36:07.980 makes Scarlett stand out amongst all the anti 00:36:07.980 --> 00:36:11.079 -heroes in fiction, that she has this desire 00:36:11.079 --> 00:36:13.679 to be better than she is, that deep down she 00:36:13.679 --> 00:36:15.480 knows she's supposed to be better than she is, 00:36:15.500 --> 00:36:18.059 but she can never really get herself to be that 00:36:18.059 --> 00:36:21.599 way. So we're going to skip ahead a little more. 00:36:22.780 --> 00:36:25.960 Honestly, a lot more. I feel like throughout 00:36:25.960 --> 00:36:29.510 her whole marriage to Rhett, Scarlett is... pretty 00:36:29.510 --> 00:36:32.010 rich, and we already kind of touched on how she 00:36:32.010 --> 00:36:36.489 loses a lot of friends and isn't really able 00:36:36.489 --> 00:36:39.909 to get back to the person she wants to be. But 00:36:39.909 --> 00:36:43.650 she doesn't really do anything that bad to Rhett. 00:36:43.670 --> 00:36:46.949 She does kick him out of her bedroom for some 00:36:46.949 --> 00:36:51.550 not -so -nice reasons involving Ashley, but she 00:36:51.550 --> 00:36:54.849 doesn't treat him too terribly. It's more so 00:36:54.849 --> 00:36:58.309 him who falls apart in part five, in my opinion. 00:36:59.079 --> 00:37:04.320 But if we go all the way towards the end to Bonnie's 00:37:04.320 --> 00:37:09.699 death, this is when Scarlett says some pretty 00:37:09.699 --> 00:37:15.380 unforgivable things. She accuses Rhett of being 00:37:15.380 --> 00:37:18.820 a murderer because he let Bonnie jump so high. 00:37:19.900 --> 00:37:22.820 This is a line that makes a little more sense 00:37:22.820 --> 00:37:24.820 in the book than in the movie, I think, because 00:37:24.820 --> 00:37:28.099 in the movie, Bonnie just kind of ran off and 00:37:28.099 --> 00:37:32.500 jumped. the pony on her own and in the book it 00:37:32.500 --> 00:37:35.059 was like Bonnie was having a tantrum so Rhett 00:37:35.059 --> 00:37:38.360 moved the bar up too high for her and then watched 00:37:38.360 --> 00:37:43.619 her do it and so he really was more directly 00:37:43.619 --> 00:37:46.300 responsible for her death in the book which makes 00:37:46.300 --> 00:37:48.300 it way more awful and I kind of get why they 00:37:48.300 --> 00:37:51.519 changed it in the movie but I think it does make 00:37:51.519 --> 00:37:53.880 Scarlet's line make a little more sense because 00:37:54.840 --> 00:37:57.039 that's why she's accusing him of being a murderer 00:37:57.039 --> 00:38:00.840 but still it makes no difference whatsoever whether 00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:03.920 he did that or not because Bonnie is dead and 00:38:03.920 --> 00:38:07.300 Scarlett is being utterly cruel of course for 00:38:07.300 --> 00:38:10.639 saying this to Rhett so the reason I bring this 00:38:10.639 --> 00:38:15.219 scene up is because Scarlett is once again at 00:38:15.789 --> 00:38:18.730 her lowest point, a very, very traumatic event. 00:38:18.769 --> 00:38:20.929 She witnessed her daughter breaking her neck. 00:38:21.750 --> 00:38:24.010 Anybody who goes through that is not going to 00:38:24.010 --> 00:38:27.650 act in a normal way. And so she's kind of reverting 00:38:27.650 --> 00:38:30.610 back to those old ways of when I'm upset, I'm 00:38:30.610 --> 00:38:34.630 not going to have empathy for anyone. And she 00:38:34.630 --> 00:38:38.170 lashes out and tries to hurt Rhett to alleviate 00:38:38.170 --> 00:38:40.489 her own pain, which is something she does quite 00:38:40.489 --> 00:38:45.059 a bit in the book. And unfortunately, this is 00:38:45.059 --> 00:38:47.840 just the final nail in the coffin in their relationship. 00:38:48.059 --> 00:38:51.159 And she does mention later on, once the dust 00:38:51.159 --> 00:38:54.219 has settled, that she finds him guiltless and 00:38:54.219 --> 00:38:56.320 she wishes she could apologize to him, but she 00:38:56.320 --> 00:39:00.820 never quite finds the words to do so. So basically, 00:39:01.079 --> 00:39:07.000 she is at the end of her relationship with him 00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:11.619 and she finds herself unable to mend matters. 00:39:12.559 --> 00:39:17.480 at this point um because due to this lack of 00:39:17.480 --> 00:39:20.199 empathy when she was at her lowest she said some 00:39:20.199 --> 00:39:22.579 pretty terrible things and now they can't fix 00:39:22.579 --> 00:39:25.179 anything and I think it's kind of similar to 00:39:25.179 --> 00:39:27.840 the miscarriage scene where Rhett says some unforgivable 00:39:27.840 --> 00:39:31.139 things and he never apologizes the book makes 00:39:31.139 --> 00:39:33.219 it a point that he never says he's sorry for 00:39:33.219 --> 00:39:39.059 what he said um so anyway that is just another 00:39:39.059 --> 00:39:44.739 example of her kind of reaction to something 00:39:44.739 --> 00:39:47.519 bad happening to her. She just becomes really, 00:39:47.579 --> 00:39:52.679 really self -centered. But then at the end with 00:39:52.679 --> 00:39:57.059 Melanie's death, I think there's a really important 00:39:57.059 --> 00:40:01.940 part where she becomes a little self -aware about 00:40:01.940 --> 00:40:04.500 what Melanie was like and how she would have 00:40:04.500 --> 00:40:08.630 acted. So it says, this is right after. Melanie 00:40:08.630 --> 00:40:11.670 died. She looked at the dazed, hurt faces of 00:40:11.670 --> 00:40:14.329 India in pity and contrition swept her. Melanie 00:40:14.329 --> 00:40:16.630 would not like her to be so sharp with those 00:40:16.630 --> 00:40:19.590 who loved her. I'm sorry I was cross, she said, 00:40:19.630 --> 00:40:22.630 speaking with difficulty. It's just that I... 00:40:22.630 --> 00:40:25.670 I'm sorry I was cross, Auntie. I'm going out 00:40:25.670 --> 00:40:27.710 on the porch for a minute. I've got to be alone. 00:40:27.889 --> 00:40:30.250 Then I'll come back and we'll... And then it 00:40:30.250 --> 00:40:35.050 ends. So... And Scarlett, again, said something 00:40:35.050 --> 00:40:37.670 nasty. I forget what it was. Right after Melanie 00:40:37.670 --> 00:40:39.690 died, I think she just said, don't talk or I'll 00:40:39.690 --> 00:40:43.329 scream to pity in India. And then she kind of 00:40:43.329 --> 00:40:45.289 has this what would Jesus do moment, but it's 00:40:45.289 --> 00:40:49.469 with Melanie. And she's like, oh, Melanie would 00:40:49.469 --> 00:40:51.849 not have acted this way. And she's finally at 00:40:51.849 --> 00:40:54.550 the very, very end starts to follow her example. 00:40:54.909 --> 00:40:59.489 And she apologizes. I think that's a very important 00:40:59.489 --> 00:41:04.280 line people kind of skip over. Because it's one 00:41:04.280 --> 00:41:06.420 of the rare times Scarlett just realizes she 00:41:06.420 --> 00:41:09.219 was wrong and immediately apologizes. And I like 00:41:09.219 --> 00:41:11.719 to think that if there were a sequel to Gone 00:41:11.719 --> 00:41:14.219 with the Wind written by Margaret Mitchell, that 00:41:14.219 --> 00:41:17.179 the book would kind of follow in that vein. It 00:41:17.179 --> 00:41:19.760 would involve Scarlett becoming kinder and kinder 00:41:19.760 --> 00:41:24.960 and more able to take hold of her own emotions 00:41:24.960 --> 00:41:29.400 and be kind even when she is at her lowest point. 00:41:31.190 --> 00:41:34.969 And then coming up, we have the whole scene where 00:41:34.969 --> 00:41:38.690 Rhett leaves her and she says she's sorry, but 00:41:38.690 --> 00:41:40.690 he says that that's not going to change anything. 00:41:41.230 --> 00:41:44.090 And then it says, suddenly she was sorry for 00:41:44.090 --> 00:41:46.590 him, sorry with a completeness that wiped out 00:41:46.590 --> 00:41:48.630 her own grief and her fear of what his words 00:41:48.630 --> 00:41:51.110 might mean. It was the first time in her life 00:41:51.110 --> 00:41:53.710 she'd been sorry for anyone without feeling contemptuous 00:41:53.710 --> 00:41:56.210 as well, because it was the first time she had 00:41:56.210 --> 00:41:58.789 ever approached understanding any other human 00:41:58.789 --> 00:42:03.460 being. So let's just take a step back from that 00:42:03.460 --> 00:42:06.380 quote and just talk about Scarlett in general. 00:42:06.920 --> 00:42:10.980 So Scarlett, I think we are led to believe through 00:42:10.980 --> 00:42:15.460 the whole book, is unable to have empathy because 00:42:15.460 --> 00:42:18.840 she is so self -centered. And as I've said before, 00:42:18.920 --> 00:42:22.159 I don't mean that she never has empathy. I think 00:42:22.159 --> 00:42:26.539 that it means that she... just has no interest 00:42:26.539 --> 00:42:29.059 in anybody else's feelings or what goes on in 00:42:29.059 --> 00:42:31.639 their minds. So she doesn't try to analyze them. 00:42:31.679 --> 00:42:33.659 To her, it's enough that she's providing for 00:42:33.659 --> 00:42:35.659 other people and she thinks that should be good 00:42:35.659 --> 00:42:39.000 enough. And she just never really bothers to 00:42:39.000 --> 00:42:41.599 understand what other people are feeling or what 00:42:41.599 --> 00:42:44.900 motivates them. And once she finally does that, 00:42:44.940 --> 00:42:47.619 once she sits and she really listens to Rhett 00:42:47.619 --> 00:42:50.500 about how he feels and why he acted the way he 00:42:50.500 --> 00:42:54.079 did, then she is finally able to understand him 00:42:54.079 --> 00:42:56.639 a little more. And then she is able to feel sorry 00:42:56.639 --> 00:43:00.599 for him. And I think that that's the whole thing 00:43:00.599 --> 00:43:03.219 with Scarlett. She can't really feel sorry for 00:43:03.219 --> 00:43:05.719 people because she just doesn't get them. And 00:43:05.719 --> 00:43:07.820 she doesn't get them because she doesn't like 00:43:07.820 --> 00:43:12.440 to analyze. darker, deeper emotions. Because 00:43:12.440 --> 00:43:16.420 Scarlett is in flight from pain, from her own 00:43:16.420 --> 00:43:20.780 negative emotions. She is in flight from any 00:43:20.780 --> 00:43:23.619 sort of negative state of mind. That's her whole 00:43:23.619 --> 00:43:26.099 thing with the, I'll think about it tomorrow. 00:43:26.380 --> 00:43:28.840 She doesn't want to face her own pain. And so 00:43:28.840 --> 00:43:30.980 she doesn't want to face anybody else's pain 00:43:30.980 --> 00:43:33.260 either. She really doesn't like thinking about 00:43:33.260 --> 00:43:36.420 how other people might feel unless it's whether 00:43:36.420 --> 00:43:38.320 they're in love with her or not, like with Ashley 00:43:38.320 --> 00:43:43.039 and Rhett. So I think that the end of the book 00:43:43.039 --> 00:43:47.239 shows that she is changing and she is becoming 00:43:47.239 --> 00:43:50.739 a person who is maybe able to understand others 00:43:50.739 --> 00:43:54.940 more. And the best thing I think about Scarlett 00:43:54.940 --> 00:43:57.059 is that she doesn't give up. She just doesn't 00:43:57.059 --> 00:44:00.079 lay down and die and say, OK, I've messed up. 00:44:00.119 --> 00:44:02.420 Clearly, I can never fix this. I've lost Rhett. 00:44:02.460 --> 00:44:06.929 My life is over. Goodbye. She doesn't. just concede 00:44:06.929 --> 00:44:10.230 to wallowing in grief and giving up ever she 00:44:10.230 --> 00:44:12.909 says tomorrow is another day and she moves on 00:44:12.909 --> 00:44:16.050 and I think that is that is another part of why 00:44:16.050 --> 00:44:19.150 people admire Scarlett so much and why I would 00:44:19.150 --> 00:44:23.289 never call her purely evil because she's a human 00:44:23.289 --> 00:44:27.030 being who makes a lot of mistakes and isn't perfect 00:44:27.030 --> 00:44:29.869 but she shows that she is able to change and 00:44:29.869 --> 00:44:35.739 that she is able to find a way to learn from 00:44:35.739 --> 00:44:38.440 others like Melanie and from her experiences 00:44:38.440 --> 00:44:41.239 like Rhett leaving. And I would love to see a 00:44:41.239 --> 00:44:43.659 sequel that had been written by Margaret Mitchell, 00:44:43.760 --> 00:44:46.539 but I understand why she never wrote one. So 00:44:46.539 --> 00:44:49.820 speaking of Margaret Mitchell, I will end with 00:44:49.820 --> 00:44:54.219 a quote by her. This was in a letter to a fan. 00:44:54.900 --> 00:45:00.119 I think it was a fan. I kind of forget. But this 00:45:00.119 --> 00:45:01.719 is in one of her letters she wrote after the 00:45:01.719 --> 00:45:03.579 book was published and before the movie came 00:45:03.579 --> 00:45:07.269 out. It says, thank you for your kind words about 00:45:07.269 --> 00:45:09.989 poor Scarlet, for saying that she still keeps 00:45:09.989 --> 00:45:13.150 your sympathy and explaining why. It never occurred 00:45:13.150 --> 00:45:15.190 to me while writing her that such a storm of 00:45:15.190 --> 00:45:17.469 hard words would descend upon the poor creature's 00:45:17.469 --> 00:45:20.590 head. She just seemed to me to be a normal person 00:45:20.590 --> 00:45:23.250 thrown into abnormal circumstances and doing 00:45:23.250 --> 00:45:25.769 the best she could, doing what seemed to her 00:45:25.769 --> 00:45:28.710 the practical thing. The normal human being in 00:45:28.710 --> 00:45:31.409 a jam thinks primarily of saving his own hide 00:45:31.409 --> 00:45:34.730 and she valued her hide in a thoroughly normal 00:45:34.730 --> 00:45:40.730 way. So this is not the first time either that 00:45:40.730 --> 00:45:43.110 Margaret Mitchell has described Scarlett as just 00:45:43.110 --> 00:45:45.349 being a normal girl. There are a few other letters 00:45:45.349 --> 00:45:47.730 where she calls her that. She didn't create her 00:45:47.730 --> 00:45:49.969 to be anything extraordinary. She created her 00:45:49.969 --> 00:45:55.280 to be somebody who is just a relatable person 00:45:55.280 --> 00:45:59.639 who goes through a lot and is able to overcome 00:45:59.639 --> 00:46:03.340 things. So I think that what we can take away 00:46:03.340 --> 00:46:06.340 from this is as much as we judge Scarlett, I 00:46:06.340 --> 00:46:09.579 think that a lot of us are maybe more like her 00:46:09.579 --> 00:46:12.320 than we would like to admit. I think that if 00:46:12.320 --> 00:46:15.579 we went through the things that she went through, 00:46:15.659 --> 00:46:17.880 as a lot of people in the world are going through, 00:46:17.940 --> 00:46:22.400 honestly, there are a lot of people who in the 00:46:22.400 --> 00:46:26.309 wake of their civilization being destroyed, who 00:46:26.309 --> 00:46:29.309 would act just like her, who under stress and 00:46:29.309 --> 00:46:33.250 with a lot of trauma behind them are going to 00:46:33.250 --> 00:46:37.989 not be kind to others and who are not going to 00:46:37.989 --> 00:46:41.130 take others' needs into account when making decisions. 00:46:41.710 --> 00:46:45.909 I think that lots of people are self -centered 00:46:45.909 --> 00:46:48.090 like that and maybe even everyone is like that 00:46:48.090 --> 00:46:53.469 sometimes. If you are somebody who hates Scarlett 00:46:53.469 --> 00:46:57.090 and thinks that she is just somebody without 00:46:57.090 --> 00:47:01.150 any empathy, I really do urge you to look back 00:47:01.150 --> 00:47:04.739 and look at her. as a whole through the story. 00:47:04.840 --> 00:47:08.360 I think that it is fair to say that she is somebody 00:47:08.360 --> 00:47:11.599 who has less empathy than the average person. 00:47:11.800 --> 00:47:14.579 I don't know if I would go so far as to call 00:47:14.579 --> 00:47:18.659 her a sociopath as some have because I have seen 00:47:18.659 --> 00:47:22.159 so many little moments in the book where she 00:47:22.159 --> 00:47:26.139 does tend to have more empathy towards others 00:47:26.139 --> 00:47:29.239 than you might think she has but at the same 00:47:29.239 --> 00:47:34.349 time I think that Her not having enough empathy 00:47:34.349 --> 00:47:37.210 is kind of the point of the book sometimes. And 00:47:37.210 --> 00:47:42.670 I think that despite everything she does, we 00:47:42.670 --> 00:47:45.070 are still able to understand everything that 00:47:45.070 --> 00:47:46.949 she does because Margaret Mitchell writes her 00:47:46.949 --> 00:47:52.679 in such a convincing way. And we've got to remember 00:47:52.679 --> 00:47:55.679 she has very little guidance between right and 00:47:55.679 --> 00:47:58.960 wrong. She has Rhett who mocks her. She has older 00:47:58.960 --> 00:48:02.480 adults who like to criticize her a lot. She loses 00:48:02.480 --> 00:48:07.139 her mother and her father. And always the moments 00:48:07.139 --> 00:48:09.079 where she's at her meanest are when she's at 00:48:09.079 --> 00:48:11.980 her most stressed out. So we have to give her 00:48:11.980 --> 00:48:14.019 a little bit of grace there, even if she doesn't 00:48:14.019 --> 00:48:18.599 give anybody else that much grace. And I also 00:48:18.599 --> 00:48:21.829 think that Scarlett... at one point is going 00:48:21.829 --> 00:48:25.030 to become a better person and I think the end 00:48:25.030 --> 00:48:27.389 of the book shows that she's on her way there 00:48:27.389 --> 00:48:30.010 or at least that's my interpretation so I know 00:48:30.010 --> 00:48:32.849 this was a really really long episode but again 00:48:32.849 --> 00:48:34.949 this was such a big topic and I think there's 00:48:34.949 --> 00:48:37.530 just way way too much to cover I've barely even 00:48:37.530 --> 00:48:39.809 scratched the surface to be honest I think that 00:48:39.809 --> 00:48:43.619 this topic is really The whole point of the book, 00:48:43.719 --> 00:48:45.820 but just the major point I want to leave everyone 00:48:45.820 --> 00:48:48.539 with today is that I don't think Scarlett is 00:48:48.539 --> 00:48:50.659 totally lacking in empathy, but I think that 00:48:50.659 --> 00:48:54.280 her character is pretty much defined as somebody 00:48:54.280 --> 00:48:57.239 who is so self -centered that she often lacks 00:48:57.239 --> 00:49:01.619 empathy. It's just that she doesn't always. And 00:49:01.619 --> 00:49:04.380 I guess before I leave, I want to say one more 00:49:04.380 --> 00:49:08.940 thing. If you got this far... I just wanted to 00:49:08.940 --> 00:49:12.900 know what sort of episode topics did you guys 00:49:12.900 --> 00:49:17.679 want to see? Because I can look at each episode 00:49:17.679 --> 00:49:21.900 and I can see exactly how many times each one 00:49:21.900 --> 00:49:27.190 was downloaded. Some of them do really well almost 00:49:27.190 --> 00:49:29.570 instantly, and then some of them it's at a much 00:49:29.570 --> 00:49:33.210 slower pace. And I have a long list of topics 00:49:33.210 --> 00:49:35.650 that I could talk about, but I just don't know 00:49:35.650 --> 00:49:39.130 what interests you guys and what you really want 00:49:39.130 --> 00:49:44.210 to see. For example, I wanted to talk a little 00:49:44.210 --> 00:49:47.849 about... Lost Lason, which was an early book 00:49:47.849 --> 00:49:50.349 by Margaret Mitchell, but I don't really know 00:49:50.349 --> 00:49:53.849 if you guys care about that at all. I wanted 00:49:53.849 --> 00:49:56.289 to talk maybe about all the Gone with the Wind 00:49:56.289 --> 00:49:59.489 musicals we've had, but I'm not sure if that 00:49:59.489 --> 00:50:02.389 would be of any interest to anybody. So if there 00:50:02.389 --> 00:50:05.670 is any topic that anybody is interested in, please 00:50:05.670 --> 00:50:09.150 let me know because right now I have tons of 00:50:09.150 --> 00:50:12.010 ideas, but I'm running on no feedback and I really 00:50:12.010 --> 00:50:15.219 just... want to know what it is that people want 00:50:15.219 --> 00:50:17.179 to see if there is any interest for something 00:50:17.179 --> 00:50:19.820 in particular. Because the way that the episodes 00:50:19.820 --> 00:50:22.699 have been going right now, it's not even at all. 00:50:22.760 --> 00:50:26.000 Some get way more downloads than others. So please 00:50:26.000 --> 00:50:27.599 just let me know if you have any preference. 00:50:28.420 --> 00:50:31.119 Thank you so much for listening. I hope you liked 00:50:31.119 --> 00:50:33.739 this episode. Feel free to let me know if you 00:50:33.739 --> 00:50:35.800 think I'm wrong or that I missed something because 00:50:35.800 --> 00:50:39.420 I know it was a really long episode. As you can 00:50:39.420 --> 00:50:42.510 see, I'm kind of... getting a scratchy throat 00:50:42.510 --> 00:50:45.130 right now so i'm gonna stop talking but i'll 00:50:45.130 --> 00:50:46.489 see you guys next time bye