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Hi everybody, welcome back to my podcast. I must

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admit I am not a very good podcaster. I keep

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procrastinating on making these things. But a

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little shout out to Victoria in the comments

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for her really nice comment on Spotify. I really

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appreciated it. I hope everybody likes this one.

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Today we're just kind of going to be talking

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about gone with the wind conspiracy theories.

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In other words... headcanons that people have

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about the story that have never been implied

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or have been implied but never confirmed. A lot

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of these theories, I'm only going to talk about

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six theories, but some of them have never been

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confirmed and actually some of them have been

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confirmed as wrong. So we're just going to go

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through each one of these starting with the most

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popular ones, and then go down into more obscure

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theories, which I think you guys might like.

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So, the first one we're going to talk about is

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definitely the most popular theory about the

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story, because it's a little plot thread that

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gets brought up a lot, or a few times in the

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book, and then we never get any sort of conclusion

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to it. And it's about does Rhett Butler have

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a son with Belle Watling? So there's actually

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quite a bit of evidence for this theory. The

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first time we hear about a kid, a little boy

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being associated with Rhett, is when he is on

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the porch at Scarlett's house and she has the

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new baby with her, Ella. And they get to talking

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and she asks him why he always goes to New Orleans.

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And this is his response. I will satisfy your

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vulgar curiosity since you ask such pointed questions.

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It isn't a sweetheart that takes me to New Orleans.

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It's a child, a little boy. He is my legal ward

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and I am responsible for him. He's in school

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in New Orleans. I go there frequently to see

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him. And then he goes on and says, he's too handsome

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for his own good. He's a perfect hellion. I wish

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he had never been born. Boys are troublesome

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creatures. Is there anything else you'd like

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to know? And then he didn't want to talk about

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it anymore. So this is on page 700 something

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of the book in my copy. So it's pretty far into

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the story and at no point in the book before

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this have we been given any implication that

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Rhett has any strings to hold him down. He's

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always advertised himself as being carefree,

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being able to do whatever he wants because he

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has no family or anything that he's responsible

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for. And this chapter, he goes into depth in

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his family. We learn about his parents a little

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more and his siblings, his brother and sister.

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And for them to bring up this little boy that

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he's a guardian of, it implies that this boy

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might be his family too, because it's never explained

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at any point how Rhett came to be in possession

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of this little boy. So the association with...

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bell comes a little later so later in the book

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bell watling is talking to melanie this is after

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the trial where they got all of the men off um

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in the raid and bell goes to thank her and she

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mentions to melanie she has a boy herself because

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they're talking about beau and she says He ain't

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here in Atlanta. He ain't never been here. He's

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off at school. I ain't seen him since he was

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little. So that's a pretty big piece of information

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right there. I mean, this is the only time Belle

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ever brings up her son. I mean, we don't see

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her very much, but I think it is a little bit

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too much of a coincidence that... she says she

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has a son who's off at school somewhere not in

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Atlanta, and that Rhett has a legal ward who's

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in school in New Orleans, and that Rhett goes

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to New Orleans all the time to see him. I think

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that we can say without a shadow of doubt that

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this is the same boy. Whether or not Rhett is

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the father is not confirmed at all, but I think

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it is way too much of a coincidence not to say

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Rhett takes care of Belle's son for her for whatever

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reason. Then this kid is mentioned one last time.

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Sort of. It's in the scene right after Bonnie

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is born and Rhett is talking to Wade. Rhett is

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really thrilled that he has a daughter instead

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of a son. When Wade asks him if he would have

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preferred a little boy, Rhett immediately says

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no. Wade is happy about this, but then he asks

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him if he has any other little boys and Rhett

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does not answer him. So I think that this scene

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is kind of odd because if the child is just Rhett's

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ward and not his son, why wouldn't he just tell

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Wade about him? I mean, he already told Scarlett

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and he was very reticent about it. That's a little

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more evidence right there. But why is it such

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a big secret that he has a legal ward? Why is

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it this thing that he's trying to keep from everybody?

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And maybe it's just because it's Belle's son.

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Maybe it's because he doesn't want to betray

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her in some way. I don't know why it would be

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a betrayal. Maybe it's just something he doesn't

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want to share with a little kid like Wade. But

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I think that the choice of words used here is

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very interesting when Rhett says, He understands

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little boys and Wade says you haven't got any

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other little boys of your own is the implication.

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So in my opinion, I think that this is definitely

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Rhett's son. I think that all the signs point

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to yes. The only thing is maybe. There was no

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way of knowing back then if the kid really was

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Rhett's. Maybe Rhett just took him on as his

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responsibility. But the thing that really has

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me convinced is the way Rhett describes him as

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being a perfect hellion. Because we know Rhett

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himself is pretty much a hellion. And I think

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that, in my mind, this is his kid and he sees

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a lot of himself in the kid. And that's why he's

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so happy to have a daughter because he realizes

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that he doesn't have to be as much of a role

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model for this kid. He can just spoil her. That's

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his thought process anyway. So that's the first

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theory, which I totally agree with. The second

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one is also another one that I tend to agree

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with. And this is one you've probably also heard.

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And it's about Ella. So Ella is... the most mysterious

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of Scarlett's children, I think. She is one of

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the main character's children, and yet she doesn't

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have a single line of dialogue. Even Bonnie,

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who comes into the story later, has some dialogue.

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But Ella's always just kind of there in the background.

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We don't learn much about her. And oddly enough,

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we do see a lot of her pregnancy, Scarlett's

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pregnancy with Ella. But then once the kid is

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born, it's like she's just a background character.

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She's always there with Wade, but she doesn't

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really get described that much. So the first

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time that we hear about Ella being described,

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Scarlett calls her a silly child. She says that

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she can't keep her mind on one thought any longer

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than a bird can stay on a branch or something

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like that. That implies that she might have some

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sort of inattention disorder or it might just

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be her personality. But the reason a lot of people

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think fetal alcohol syndrome, that's the theory

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that Ella has fetal alcohol syndrome. I should

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have started with that. But the reason people

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think this is because earlier in the book, Scarlett

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really starts drinking a lot at the time that

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she's pregnant with Ella. And there is a little

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passage about how she starts drinking brandy

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every night. And it says that Dr. Mead never

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thought to tell her that a woman who is pregnant

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should not drink. And I just don't know why that

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line would be included if not to hint at something.

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I think that Scarlett's dismissal of Ella is

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supposed to be pretty symbolic because She affected

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this child's well -being by drinking during being

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pregnant, even though she didn't know that she

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wasn't supposed to. You got to give her that.

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But then she just blames the child for this issue

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that she inadvertently gave her. And I think

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that is very symbolic of Scarlett's attitude

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towards her children in general. She harms them

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unintentionally and then doesn't take responsibility

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for it. She just judges them. And that is really

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all we know about Ella. She's kind of an afterthought.

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But I like the fetal alcohol syndrome theory

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because I think that it just gives a little more

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lore to Ella's character. It helps to describe

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her a little more because otherwise we really

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know next to nothing about her. She's only really

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mentioned and described a few times. But let's

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move on from that because the book doesn't really

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say much more about it. So this next theory is

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kind of a favorite of mine. And I don't think

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this one is supposed to be true. It's just more

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of a headcanon. This one is about Prissy. And

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the theory is that she is completely faking being

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lazy and stupid and sullen and all that. She's

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just... intentionally trolling everyone, trying

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to get on their nerves because she doesn't like

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them. The reason I like this theory is because

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I think it is totally unrealistic that none of

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the slaves in the book are opposed to being slaves.

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And that is a whole other issue that I'm not

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going to go into in this episode. I love the

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idea of Prissy being a representation of a slave

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who is just kind of pretending to be stupid because

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that was a tactic slaves sometimes used to survive.

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And I think it makes a lot more sense in some

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scenes for Prissy to just not be helping because

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she doesn't. like being legally owned by other

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people rather than just being so stupid that

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she can't carry out basic tasks that are going

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to save somebody else's life because think about

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it scarlet legally owns her she has forced her

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to be a maid for her child since she was 12 years

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old and Here, Prissy is having to once again

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take care of Scarlett and Melanie in their time

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of need, even though it's during a war where

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she's going to be freed if the other side wins.

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So I think that this adds some depth to Prissy's

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character. Now, in terms of what Margaret Mitchell

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had to say about her. Margaret Mitchell actually

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said that Prissy was the one character who was

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based on a real person. I have not looked into

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it that much more, but that is what she said

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in her letters. I don't know what real person

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she's based on. And then in another letter, Margaret

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Mitchell says that Prissy is one of her favorite

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characters. So she doesn't say much more than

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that. I don't know if prissy is just supposed

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to be taken at face value or if we can look further

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into her character i don't think that she is

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supposed to be smart in any capacity to be quite

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honest with you but i personally just like to

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headcanon that she is i just love the idea of

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prissy being secretly very smart and just trying

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to screw everybody over because she can so That

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is all I have to say about that one. There's

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not a ton of evidence for it other than just

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interpretation. The next one is kind of a weird

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one, but I have seen it crop up multiple times,

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and I hope I can kind of entertain you guys with

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a real anecdote about it. This one is that Rhett

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and Melanie actually have a little bit of an

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affair and that they sleep together at the point

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where Scarlett has the miscarriage and she's

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calming him down. So I know that this sounds

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absolutely ridiculous and I agree that it is,

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but I actually have seen multiple people bring

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it up as a sort of a crack ship thing. Maybe

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not taking it super seriously, but it is something

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that has come up before. And it might interest

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you to know that certain people in the 1930s

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came to the same conclusion. There is one old

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letter to Margaret Mitchell that this guy wrote

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to her. He was saying that he was at a meeting

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with his bridge club and... Everybody started

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arguing about this scene and now certain people

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are no longer speaking to each other. And Margaret

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Mitchell responded and she just thought it was

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hilarious. And she said, next time I will make

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sure that a character is very clear about what

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she's doing when she closes the door, even if

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she's fictional. So she totally poked fun at

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it and she said no and she defended Melanie's

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virtue. So this is one that can definitely be

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disproved. But it's definitely something that

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I've seen people like to entertain because they

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ship Rhett and Melanie. And then a less dramatic

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headcanon would be that Rhett falls in love with

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Melanie. I've seen people say that before. I

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personally don't think he's in love with her.

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I think he has a great deal of respect for her.

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And I think that it's a really common trope in

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stories like this for the bad boy to be reformed.

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by the gentle girl, but this isn't one of those

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stories. This is a story where the bad boy falls

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for somebody who is just as bad as he is. So

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I think that Melanie is just the one woman that

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he really respects, but he doesn't feel anything

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romantic for her like he does for Scarlett. Now,

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that might be another episode, too, is written

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Melanie's relationship, but... That's another

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theory that I wanted to touch on that he feels

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something for her. As for whether Melanie has

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feelings for Rhett, absolutely not. I think she

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is totally in love with Ashley. Just a couple

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more. One of them is pretty short. It's about

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Scarlett after she has Wade there. I don't even

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know if this is really a theory, but it's something

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that is not really confirmed in the books, even

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though it's kind of obvious. It's that she has

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postpartum depression after having Wade. I think

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that this makes a lot of sense, but I also think

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it doesn't necessarily have to be true. So after

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Scarlett has Wade in the book, Scarlett is basically...

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is overcoming a trauma. She's been through a

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lot. She married this guy she didn't really want

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to marry. And then he almost immediately dies.

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And she's kind of like, what is my life now?

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I'm a widow. I'm excluded from all social life.

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All of the men have left for the army. My entire

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life has suddenly changed. And now I have a baby

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and I don't know how to feel about it. So I think

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that what I'm trying to say here is she has plenty

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of reason to be depressed the book goes into

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great detail about why she's depressed and it's

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because she's bored she's completely stunned

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by everything that's happened and she cannot

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adjust to being a mother she feels confused bewildered

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and just really frustrated by everything so The

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theory here that she has postpartum depression,

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I think that it can make sense because it's clear

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that she's going through something and maybe

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she just didn't really know what postpartum depression

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was. But at the same time, I think that even

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if her hormones were all over the place, I think

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she would have just been depressed anyway. That

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is something that would have happened no matter

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what. I think that postpartum depression could

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be a factor, though, because it says that Scarlett

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completely refuses food, that she's bored, she's

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listless, nobody can bring up her spirits again.

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And maybe it went further than just her circumstances.

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Maybe it was something clinical. But I don't

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know. I think it could go either way. So the

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last one is one that I really like, but not necessarily

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one that I think is true. This theory probably

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makes more sense for the movie because in the

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book we kind of have confirmation it didn't happen.

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But the theory is, sorry, the theory is that

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Rhett killed Frank Kennedy, that during the night

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of the Klan raid. Rhett saw an opportunity and

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he went out and he took care of Frank himself

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because he wanted him out of the way to get it

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scarlet. So the reason we have this theory, sorry,

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again, is because at the end of the book, Rhett

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says, I cared so much that I think I would have

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killed Frank Kennedy if he hadn't died when he

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did. So the desire is there. The intention could

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have been there too. Rhett, again, he was playing

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poker with the Yankee captains. He knew what

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was about to happen that night. He knew about

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the Klan raid. And he knew that Frank was going

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to be out doing his Ku Kluxing stuff and he was

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going to have an opportunity. And he wanted to

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kill him. He wanted to get rid of him. The reason

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why this theory doesn't make sense is, first

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of all, why would Rhett admit to it? um at the

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end that he thinks he would have killed frank

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kennedy because that just doesn't make any sense

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like wouldn't he have just said i killed him

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if he's confessing or just kept it to himself

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and then it also doesn't make sense because ret

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goes out of his way to save all of the men he

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Puts himself in danger by going out and rescuing

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everybody, including Ashley, who he really doesn't

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like and whom he would have been glad to see

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dead, probably, if not for Melanie's sake. So

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the idea of him killing Frank is really, really

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interesting. It's not something that I think

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makes any sense. The reason I think it makes

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more sense. in the movie is because Rhett does

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not have that line about wanting to kill Frank.

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But I do think in an alternate universe that

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Rhett easily could have done it. And also, sometimes

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I think about alternate universes where Frank

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didn't die in the Klan raid if Rhett actually

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would have killed him. Because he says that he

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thinks he would have, but I have to wonder if

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he's really that morally bankrupt that he would

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do that. I mean, forget... scarlet in how she

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feels how could he ever become Ella's stepfather

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and then look her in the eye knowing that he

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killed her father that would just be messed up

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so I mean I guess all in all I really hope that

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Rhett did not kill Frank and I don't think he

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did but I think it would have made an interesting

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storyline and it's kind of fun to think about

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in an alternate universe kind of way So let me

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know what you think about any of these theories,

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if you think that any of them are plausible,

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if you think that any of them are completely

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implausible, and give me some of your own theories,

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if you have any. I hope that you all have a great

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weekend, a great day, and I will see you next

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time. Bye!
