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Welcome to Pawprint Academy, your blueprint to

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I've got it. All right. Episode 24, digging and

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yard destruction. Why dogs do it and how to stop

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it. Today is going to be down and dirty quick.

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Save the grass. Save the grass. Save the grass.

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It's just the right season. So we're in eastern

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North Carolina. And it's just the right season

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for all of the grass to be super vulnerable.

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Right, I mean it kind of always is over here

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with the amount of sand in the soil. Right, yeah,

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the grass never really grows that well. Not very

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good. But regardless, we've got to save the grass.

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Yep. So tonight is about digging. And there are

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about a thousand things going on here. But we

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are going to make it work tonight. episode 24

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um we are cruising right along we are like halfway

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through our one year almost halfway through i

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guess we got like two more episodes like our

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um our year -long um i guess schedule oh right

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of trying to hit 52 podcast in a year yep yeah

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we're almost there halfway there i was like what

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24 26 right you know we're like a couple short

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um right and speaking of math great segue um

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we are sitting for our statistics for the evening

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uh we just crossed 600 downloads nice we're at

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601 where's the clap little Right. I don't know

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which one it is. Is it this one? Nope, that's

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not it. That's the wrong one. No, that's the

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laugh. There it is. 601. I'm really bad at this.

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I'm so sorry. Right. Well, they should have them

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labeled, to be honest with you. If it's colors,

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it doesn't really make sense. I'm sure that if

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I had an extra, who knows how much money it was.

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Oh, that's a good idea. Anywho. Right. I'm sure

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that there's like a more advanced version that

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has like labels and stuff on it. But I just have

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a regular soundboard, whatever that is. Right.

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Okay. 169 downloads in the last 30 days. Nice.

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Wow. So we're going up. Yeah. We're ramping up.

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We're up from the original six listeners. And

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now we have... Apparently, I guess those six

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listeners have been busy. So right. We like flew

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through the single and double digits. Right.

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So let's get into it. Digging is not. Here's

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this one. This one's good. This one aligns with

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the potty training one. Digging is not a spite

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behavior. I hear all the time with. owners it's

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like oh well they peed because they were upset

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at me because i you know left them in their crate

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right didn't let them or something or else um

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so spite's not a behavior that the dogs are gonna

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um you know a primary characteristics uh characteristic

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of canines that is a human type emotion and process

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so That's not what's happening. It's a functional

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behavior. Digging is a functional behavior. And

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it can meet needs that the dog has. It can be

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relief of stress. It can be entertainment. The

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dog is like, I'm bored. This is fun. It can be

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prey drive. The dog could smell something underneath

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the dirt. It could be an animal. Dogs hunt for

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digging types of animals, rabbits and moles and

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insects. Right now in eastern North Carolina,

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we're dealing with worms. And so you may notice

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that your dog is really in tune with the ground

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when they go out. Our dogs certainly are. And

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in our specific yard, it is worms. So you see

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those with the, what is it called? The worm casings,

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I think is what it's called. I have no idea.

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I don't know anything about worms except that

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they're gross. It's like the little, the little

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like tiny little balls of dirt that like accumulate

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on the outside of the ground. The tunnels. Yeah,

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from the tunnels. And so. I learned today, actually,

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that that's not a bad thing for the soil. It's

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actually really good for the soil. Right, and

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our dogs just like to eat it. But what's bad

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for the soil is our dogs. Yeah, once a year we're

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like, why are they eating dirt? Right. They're

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trying to get the worms. That's what they're

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trying to do. It can be prey drive. It can be

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temperature regulation. They can be trying to

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get to the cooler earth. They feel it on their

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paw pads and on their nose when they put their

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face down there. So they could be looking for

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a cooler environment, especially as it gets warmer.

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And then it can also just be stress reduction

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because they're just like, this is a self -gratifying

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behavior. Yeah. And any type of self -gratifying

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behavior automatically relieves stress because

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it gives them something to do. So dogs dig. Additionally,

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dogs dig because it works. Right. When a dog

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digs the first time, they're like, oh, that was

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pretty cool. Like this. Look what I did. And

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if you've ever seen a dog when they have like

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dug a really big hole. they're so proud of it

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yeah they're like look i almost got to china

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right you see it look at it look at it um and

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so when they do that they they uh right it's

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something that is rewarding to the dog and they're

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like yeah i did that so stopping the digging

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requires removing the payoff right we've got

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to like separate the dog from that payoff moment

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where they're like, yeah, I'm super excited and

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stoked about this. And we've got to meet their

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underlying needs so that we have the ability

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to actually teach an alternative rather than

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constantly chase their self -gratification. Yeah.

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There are some dogs that are just relentless

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with it sometimes. And I know if it's one or

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two holes right it's like ah man that's inconvenient

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but when you have a digger like a true digger

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it can get out of hand quick right for sure yeah

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um right because that it just it it just expands

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it goes crazy um so digging always serves a purpose

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for the dog though um dogs don't do anything

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and and i before i even go down that road i was

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gonna finish my sentence dogs don't do anything

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that's not rewarding in one frame or another

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dogs don't do useless activities they don't see

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the point and they're very logical they're like

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that's not gonna pay off so i'm not gonna do

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it um but before i go down that road the theme

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you're gonna notice that there's a lot of points

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on this um this being like our fourth i think

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I think this is like our fourth episode of the

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series about like common issues, common problems

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that owners have. We talked about counter surfing

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and we've talked about barking, like nuisance

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barking. We've talked about a couple of these

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different behaviors. Now I'm trying to rack my

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brain on what last week was. Wasn't it counter

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-surfing? Counter -surfing. No, it was separation

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anxiety. Oh, that's right. Separation anxiety,

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chewing and destructive behavior, excessive barking,

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and then counter -surfing and food stealing.

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Counter -surfing one is so clear in my head still

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for some reason. Right, it's a big one. Those

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things aside, those behaviors, all are going

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to involve a little bit of management because

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management is going to be one, the number one

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way that we address any type of behavior we don't

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want in the humane hierarchy, which is just like

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the most ethical way that we can, we can treat

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the dogs. We want to handle health behaviors

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first, then we want to use management, then we

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want to use positive reinforcement, and then

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we go through the rest of the hierarchy. But

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those things are always going to be the best

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things to use first because there's no reason

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to use more force than necessary. There's no

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reason to use techniques that are more aversive

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to the dog if those aren't necessary. We should

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always try to just manage their experience in

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the world. be kind of heads up be an athlete

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about it right we we should be that leader in

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the home and create a situation where they maybe

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they don't have the same um things available

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to them and thus they choose a different choice

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that should always be the most ethical and the

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highest value like choice for us um and you'll

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notice that some of the things that we're going

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to talk about tonight are going to sound very

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similar to our barking episode and our counter

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-surfing episode and all of those things. Because

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a lot of times you use the same things. That's

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where we're going. It's a secret. It's a secret,

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but the same concept applies. All right, so we're

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going to frame the issues first, and then we'll

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open it up for anybody who wants to... Oops,

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just kicked a whiteboard. And then we'll open

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it up for anybody who wants to jump in or has

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something to share. And then we'll move forward.

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So digging is often driven by boredom and excess

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energy. A lot of times the dog's just got nothing

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else to do. And they're running around in the

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backyard. More often than not, we find people

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with the larger yards end up with more digging

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than the smaller yards. And that usually is a

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product of just supervision and access rather

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than, you know, you've got more exciting things

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to dig. It's more just, Oh, well the dog can

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go all the way to the back of this yard and they

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don't really feel like you're there. They don't

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feel like there's, you know, someone watching

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them or whatever. And then they're like, I'm

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going to, I'm going to try this, try this. And,

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and then if it works, Then they continue. Some

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dogs dig to cool down or create some comfort

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for themselves. So if they're outside for a very

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long period of time, one, it's that same concept.

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They're bored. They don't have anything to do.

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They're looking for stuff to do. They're hot.

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they're like i'm gonna start doing this oh wow

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it's cooler under this you know this first layer

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of grass and then they're digging and they're

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digging and they're like oh wow it's nice and

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cold down here this is cool and then it starts

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to be a comfort issue and they're like oh this

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is this is pretty neat i can put my face down

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here and it's cooler yeah my dad has a great

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dane that does that and she Like, we'll do it

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under, like, the kids' play set or under, like,

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back behind bushes. In, like, shaded and darker

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areas. Yeah, in the shaded areas. Because she's

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like, oh, this dirt is cool. But then also she

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does it out of boredom because she'll go in the

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middle of the yard and just dig a crater. Like,

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a crater. Like, if you put your leg in it, it's,

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like, up to your knee. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, she

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just digs craters. Right. It's crazy. It's become

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something that's been. He doesn't listen to me.

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It's become something that's fun. Yeah. Or it's

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rewarding through one or another. Another thing

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that can come up is prey drive, prey drive triggers.

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So digging when animals are present underground

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is something that's real hard to turn off. Right,

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because it's really common in like hound breeds

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and like stripper breeds. Right, the dogs smell

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something or they hear something or worse, they

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see something. Right. They see something move.

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Right. And then it goes under the ground and

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they're like, oh, I'm going to get this. The.

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Before I go on. Right. Well, also with the prey

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drive thing, they I keep keeps saying that it's

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bothering me. I keep going. Oh. And I'm trying

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to think and I'm looking at you and then. Getting

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lost on the page. Yeah, I get lost on the page.

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So with the prey drive triggers, sometimes when

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a dog first digs under a fence, it's related

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to an animal or an insect or something that went

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under that fence. A lot of times that's the first.

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way that they like put all of that together yep

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then they realized oh i can dig under this fence

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and then they continue right huskies are really

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known for that they're like escape artists and

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australian shepherds yeah and australian shepherds

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yeah but yeah i mean there's like things that

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we don't even think about right lizards is a

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really big one yes sometimes we'll hear our dogs

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and they're like going crazy for a second we're

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like what is happening and then we like see stuff

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and it's like well there's nothing there right

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it's because it's probably a lizard or a frog

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or something like that that's like causing a

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ruckus. Even little snakes. Yeah. Or like those

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salamander things. I guess that's a lizard. Yeah,

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sure. Yeah, I don't know. But those things are

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weird. We're into dogs. We don't do the lizard

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stuff. Yeah, I don't do reptiles. We don't do

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reptiles. The next thing, stress and frustration

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can also lead to repetitive digging. When a dog

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is stressed and they find that This is a repetitive

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behavior that is similar to if you're in a meeting

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and you're kind of stressed at work and you're

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just tapping a pen or you're clicking a pen and

00:17:41.140 --> 00:17:44.539
you just find that that movement or you're tapping

00:17:44.539 --> 00:17:48.319
your foot. Yeah. Right. This is that repetitive

00:17:48.319 --> 00:17:53.559
behavior that oftentimes presents because you're

00:17:53.559 --> 00:17:58.950
stressed. Yeah. and we do it but then our dogs

00:17:58.950 --> 00:18:02.789
do it and we're like ah they just don't relate

00:18:03.740 --> 00:18:06.920
the the amount of effort that you're gonna have

00:18:06.920 --> 00:18:09.220
to put in to regrow the grass they don't get

00:18:09.220 --> 00:18:12.039
it yeah and it's for us it becomes like autonomous

00:18:12.039 --> 00:18:14.279
right it's like we don't even notice we're doing

00:18:14.279 --> 00:18:16.380
it sometimes and then somebody's like hey can

00:18:16.380 --> 00:18:18.000
you stop doing that and you're like oh i didn't

00:18:18.000 --> 00:18:20.539
even realize i was doing it oh sorry yeah and

00:18:20.539 --> 00:18:22.619
that's the same way with dogs it's like dogs

00:18:22.619 --> 00:18:26.519
get into it and they just it becomes such a strong

00:18:26.519 --> 00:18:29.910
built like pattern Because we always say dogs

00:18:29.910 --> 00:18:31.910
are pattern based. Like it becomes just this

00:18:31.910 --> 00:18:33.910
thing that they're just like, I go outside, I

00:18:33.910 --> 00:18:36.529
dig. I go outside, I dig. And anything that they

00:18:36.529 --> 00:18:39.250
rehearse over and over to build that pattern,

00:18:39.369 --> 00:18:44.750
then it becomes a habit. Yep. And it might not

00:18:44.750 --> 00:18:50.049
become a habit because it was so rewarding. It

00:18:50.049 --> 00:18:52.750
can also just become a habit because that's just

00:18:52.750 --> 00:18:58.059
what they do. Yeah. It wasn't negative. It was

00:18:58.059 --> 00:19:00.519
neutral. Right, especially if there's no other

00:19:00.519 --> 00:19:04.220
activities in the backyard, right? Because, I

00:19:04.220 --> 00:19:08.640
mean, I've never seen a dog just randomly stop

00:19:08.640 --> 00:19:12.420
on a walk to dig, you know? Typically not. Yeah,

00:19:12.460 --> 00:19:16.279
typically it's just in the backyard that you

00:19:16.279 --> 00:19:18.440
see people have a problem. Right, because they

00:19:18.440 --> 00:19:21.359
have so much more access to other things that

00:19:21.359 --> 00:19:23.539
can draw their attention on a walk. Yeah, exactly.

00:19:23.819 --> 00:19:27.480
They're sniffing and they're looking. That's

00:19:27.480 --> 00:19:31.299
the other one. But that's just fun. Yes. But

00:19:31.299 --> 00:19:34.880
that also comes from the fact that when they're

00:19:34.880 --> 00:19:37.579
stepping in the sand, their paws are going under

00:19:37.579 --> 00:19:41.160
the sand. And so they're perceiving that and

00:19:41.160 --> 00:19:43.460
they're like, oh, what else is under here? Right,

00:19:43.460 --> 00:19:45.400
and it's way cooler underneath the top layer.

00:19:45.619 --> 00:19:48.319
Correct. And that can precipitate a lot of those

00:19:48.319 --> 00:19:53.670
things. Owners. um let's talk about why these

00:19:53.670 --> 00:19:58.250
fixes fail so owners oftentimes we react to the

00:19:58.250 --> 00:20:01.230
holes instead of changing the actual system and

00:20:01.230 --> 00:20:04.430
that's in place so we see the holes and we're

00:20:04.430 --> 00:20:08.470
like oh my gosh what are we doing we got to fix

00:20:08.470 --> 00:20:12.910
this but what actually gets fixed because just

00:20:12.910 --> 00:20:16.289
telling the dog no don't dig no don't dig that

00:20:16.289 --> 00:20:22.380
doesn't solve the problem right Punishment after

00:20:22.380 --> 00:20:26.740
digging doesn't teach anything. Nope, it's just

00:20:26.740 --> 00:20:30.380
like the potty training. Yep. So when we allow

00:20:30.380 --> 00:20:34.660
the dog, and allow is a strong word, because

00:20:34.660 --> 00:20:36.960
most people are like, well, I'm not allowing

00:20:36.960 --> 00:20:46.200
it. Well, unfortunately, if we're... If we are

00:20:46.200 --> 00:20:50.680
becoming neutral to the situation that is then

00:20:50.680 --> 00:20:56.000
becoming the whole, then we're allowing it. The

00:20:56.000 --> 00:20:58.819
dog is not perceiving that you're not allowing

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it. Because to them, everything is supposed to

00:21:03.079 --> 00:21:06.339
be earned and we create that concept in the house.

00:21:06.359 --> 00:21:10.599
But then when they go outside, then everything

00:21:10.599 --> 00:21:12.970
that they're doing. They're kind of assuming

00:21:12.970 --> 00:21:15.809
is acceptable. Right. And if you're not there

00:21:15.809 --> 00:21:18.750
to tell them and they just get to go in the yard

00:21:18.750 --> 00:21:22.509
on their own without you around and, and do it

00:21:22.509 --> 00:21:25.150
over and over again, it's like, right. They,

00:21:25.250 --> 00:21:28.650
I always tell people a dog doesn't know what

00:21:28.650 --> 00:21:32.890
you don't tell them not to do. They only know

00:21:32.890 --> 00:21:34.789
what to do and they create their own things.

00:21:35.410 --> 00:21:37.630
And so if you don't say, Hey, don't do that.

00:21:37.670 --> 00:21:39.930
I don't like that. Then they just think that

00:21:39.930 --> 00:21:42.960
they're allowed to do it. And so it's definitely

00:21:42.960 --> 00:21:46.720
being unsupervised in the yard that really just

00:21:46.720 --> 00:21:49.740
like ingrains the fact that they can just do

00:21:49.740 --> 00:21:51.720
it over and over and over and get away with it.

00:21:51.759 --> 00:21:54.299
Because even if you are like thinking that you're

00:21:54.299 --> 00:21:56.940
punishing the dog after the fact, the dog is

00:21:56.940 --> 00:21:59.200
not seeing that as a punishment. They already

00:21:59.200 --> 00:22:01.079
got away with it. It's just like counter surfing

00:22:01.079 --> 00:22:04.420
because if they already ate the steak, they already

00:22:04.420 --> 00:22:07.640
ate the steak. Like there's nothing we can do

00:22:07.640 --> 00:22:14.829
to take that back. Yeah. The excess freedom is

00:22:14.829 --> 00:22:20.269
going to also exemplify that or amplify that

00:22:20.269 --> 00:22:23.849
is the right word. So the more freedom that we

00:22:23.849 --> 00:22:26.430
give them, the less supervision we give them,

00:22:26.450 --> 00:22:29.369
it increases their opportunities. Yeah, especially

00:22:29.369 --> 00:22:31.970
when it comes to like puppies, right? We always

00:22:31.970 --> 00:22:34.869
just like, cool, I know it might feel weird to

00:22:34.869 --> 00:22:38.529
leash up your puppy into the backyard, but it's

00:22:38.529 --> 00:22:41.069
going to save you a lot of stress. Puppies will

00:22:41.069 --> 00:22:44.250
for sure get into things in a yard. And then

00:22:44.250 --> 00:22:54.730
random exercise misses. So a random exercise,

00:22:55.509 --> 00:23:01.529
what that means, I didn't finish my sentence.

00:23:01.990 --> 00:23:11.500
Random exercise misses the root cause. The concept

00:23:11.500 --> 00:23:16.799
of just, oh, well, they're digging here, so let's

00:23:16.799 --> 00:23:21.039
go for a walk. Right. Or, hey, they're doing

00:23:21.039 --> 00:23:24.480
this thing. It just started out of nowhere, so

00:23:24.480 --> 00:23:27.660
now I'm going to increase their activity. Yeah.

00:23:28.500 --> 00:23:30.960
We've got to be proactive about it, so we've

00:23:30.960 --> 00:23:35.759
got to reverse that. By being proactive and working

00:23:35.759 --> 00:23:39.210
them out. Throughout the day, but also but on

00:23:39.210 --> 00:23:42.950
a schedule so that they kind of are at a kind

00:23:42.950 --> 00:23:48.190
of a standard load of exercise and and effort

00:23:48.190 --> 00:23:53.150
that will help to tax the system and decrease

00:23:53.150 --> 00:23:57.859
that hormonal. you know, feel of, of stress and

00:23:57.859 --> 00:23:59.759
anxiety and all of these other things that they

00:23:59.759 --> 00:24:02.240
feel where they're like, I need to do something.

00:24:02.420 --> 00:24:05.700
And I'm moving my hands wildly while I say this,

00:24:05.720 --> 00:24:08.779
right? Cause I'm like, right. When you get that

00:24:08.779 --> 00:24:10.960
like energy pent up and you're like, I just need

00:24:10.960 --> 00:24:12.279
to do something. I just need to do something.

00:24:13.099 --> 00:24:16.640
Well, that's the same concept. It's the same

00:24:16.640 --> 00:24:19.180
concept. And we got to be proactive about that

00:24:19.180 --> 00:24:23.740
because randomly increasing their exercise is

00:24:23.740 --> 00:24:26.289
what misses that root cause. Yeah, for sure.

00:24:26.329 --> 00:24:30.349
Because if you're not tying the exercises to

00:24:30.349 --> 00:24:33.210
why they're digging, and like you said, just

00:24:33.210 --> 00:24:36.170
taking them on a random walk, that's not matching

00:24:36.170 --> 00:24:39.430
what they are showing you that they have a drive

00:24:39.430 --> 00:24:42.349
for. And every dog is going to have that different

00:24:42.349 --> 00:24:45.970
level, that different plateau where you have

00:24:45.970 --> 00:24:51.509
to meet that in order to get a calm dog. So you

00:24:51.509 --> 00:24:57.069
have to dial that in. ideally before these behavior

00:24:57.069 --> 00:25:00.210
things pop up. Yeah. You gotta, that's one of

00:25:00.210 --> 00:25:02.269
those things that like when they're puppies and

00:25:02.269 --> 00:25:05.910
they're growing up, you gotta dial that in. Yeah,

00:25:05.970 --> 00:25:09.470
for sure. Puppies are, uh, you gotta start early.

00:25:09.730 --> 00:25:15.990
So, um, a, our Dutch shepherd versus our Frenchie.

00:25:16.440 --> 00:25:19.559
Two totally different dogs, different drives,

00:25:19.799 --> 00:25:22.700
different leg lengths and different endurance

00:25:22.700 --> 00:25:28.240
levels. Same attitude. Same attitude. Nice. So

00:25:28.240 --> 00:25:32.240
we need to, there are some dogs that are just

00:25:32.240 --> 00:25:35.279
going to be that higher energy load and you've

00:25:35.279 --> 00:25:38.920
got to tucker that out so that the dog feels

00:25:38.920 --> 00:25:42.920
like they have an outlet to get that nervous

00:25:42.920 --> 00:25:45.740
energy out, to get that pent up frustration out.

00:25:46.299 --> 00:25:51.660
And to really like have that nice calm bass line.

00:25:51.819 --> 00:25:54.660
Yeah. Yeah, he takes a lot of working out before

00:25:54.660 --> 00:25:57.380
we get to do something. Right, and it's an everyday

00:25:57.380 --> 00:26:00.559
thing. It's like that's just he has to get up.

00:26:00.559 --> 00:26:03.099
That's why we got a treadmill. He's got to get

00:26:03.099 --> 00:26:06.720
up, and he's got to bite a couple of things,

00:26:06.880 --> 00:26:08.480
and he's got to jump on the treadmill, and he's

00:26:08.480 --> 00:26:09.880
got to run for a little bit. Right, for him,

00:26:09.940 --> 00:26:12.579
yeah, he loves to just carry something in his

00:26:12.579 --> 00:26:14.619
mouth. So the treadmill with like a bite pillow

00:26:14.619 --> 00:26:17.180
is a really good combo for him, but he also needs

00:26:17.180 --> 00:26:20.559
to play tug, and he also needs to walk slow on

00:26:20.559 --> 00:26:23.279
that treadmill to slow down. his brain down but

00:26:23.279 --> 00:26:26.319
yeah he takes it's like we have to create so

00:26:26.319 --> 00:26:28.880
many activities it's like a daycare like worker

00:26:28.880 --> 00:26:32.519
for like preschool kids it's like okay we're

00:26:32.519 --> 00:26:34.359
gonna color and then we're gonna nap and then

00:26:34.359 --> 00:26:36.220
we're gonna eat and we're gonna take a pie break

00:26:36.220 --> 00:26:38.799
and we're gonna go outside right because otherwise

00:26:38.799 --> 00:26:40.799
guess what we have to deal with in the backyard

00:26:40.799 --> 00:26:44.900
digging yeah right yep he dug he he's a digger

00:26:44.900 --> 00:26:47.799
for sure right he loves to dig but you know what

00:26:47.799 --> 00:26:51.980
when he doesn't right he doesn't dig All the

00:26:51.980 --> 00:26:54.359
time. Yeah. He digs very, very selectively. But

00:26:54.359 --> 00:26:57.700
he digs when we don't give him an outlet. Yep.

00:26:57.740 --> 00:27:01.160
He digs when we leave him outside for too long

00:27:01.160 --> 00:27:04.119
on his own, unsupervised, when he's like, nah,

00:27:04.279 --> 00:27:05.839
I'm going to get into something. I'm going to

00:27:05.839 --> 00:27:07.500
go to China. I'm going to find something to do.

00:27:08.079 --> 00:27:11.240
Right. And then once he has started that process

00:27:11.240 --> 00:27:15.079
of digging. Yeah. Oh, then it's on. Right. And

00:27:15.079 --> 00:27:16.440
he started early. Because then it's that repetitive

00:27:16.440 --> 00:27:19.460
behavior. He's like, I'm just going to go. So

00:27:19.460 --> 00:27:22.019
he started early. He started digging in his kennel

00:27:22.019 --> 00:27:25.460
like first. Like that was what he first started

00:27:25.460 --> 00:27:28.180
doing with that motion and the like repetitiveness.

00:27:28.480 --> 00:27:30.539
Loves to try to dig out of his kennel. Right.

00:27:30.680 --> 00:27:33.160
He is like, I'm going to get out of this metal

00:27:33.160 --> 00:27:35.759
kennel that's the strongest one ever made. I'm

00:27:35.759 --> 00:27:37.660
going to do it. Today's the day. Yeah. Never

00:27:37.660 --> 00:27:40.799
got out of it. Also, every time you give him

00:27:40.799 --> 00:27:44.880
a place bed, he digs on it. I just let him, you

00:27:44.880 --> 00:27:47.680
know, have, well. Only if you give him a cushioned

00:27:47.680 --> 00:27:50.240
one. He has a mesh one. He never really digs

00:27:50.240 --> 00:27:52.799
on that one much. But you put him on a cushioned

00:27:52.799 --> 00:27:56.900
one, he immediately starts digging. And he's

00:27:56.900 --> 00:27:59.980
like, this is so fun. He just like, he loves

00:27:59.980 --> 00:28:01.900
it because he's driven. And he's like, yeah,

00:28:02.019 --> 00:28:03.880
it's the same as like running for him. Yeah,

00:28:03.880 --> 00:28:07.819
got to do something. Yeah, got to do it. All

00:28:07.819 --> 00:28:12.349
right. So I want to take a... quick break from

00:28:12.349 --> 00:28:14.789
uh driving on so we've kind of framed the problem

00:28:14.789 --> 00:28:16.589
we've talked about those things does anybody

00:28:16.589 --> 00:28:21.710
have anything they want to add um or any group

00:28:21.710 --> 00:28:23.329
discussion we want to open it up for some group

00:28:23.329 --> 00:28:25.109
discussion anything that we didn't talk about

00:28:25.109 --> 00:28:29.130
other reasons why maybe you've seen your dogs

00:28:29.130 --> 00:28:32.849
dig or um or even do other type of repetitive

00:28:34.239 --> 00:28:38.619
um, repetitive type behaviors in the house. I

00:28:38.619 --> 00:28:41.079
will open it up here just for a minute. If anybody

00:28:41.079 --> 00:28:44.339
wants to pipe up and, uh, and jump into the conversation.

00:28:45.160 --> 00:28:50.380
Neighbor dogs. Hey Ryan. Hey. Hey. Um, you know,

00:28:50.400 --> 00:28:52.680
our backyard, we have these short fences and

00:28:52.680 --> 00:28:55.460
we have these two dogs in the back. So they're

00:28:55.460 --> 00:28:58.319
coming up to the, you know, I used to dig when

00:28:58.319 --> 00:29:00.420
she was younger, but she really doesn't dig at

00:29:00.420 --> 00:29:03.390
all anymore. But if those dogs are out there

00:29:03.390 --> 00:29:05.089
and they're at the fence, like they're about

00:29:05.089 --> 00:29:06.809
to ram through the thing, then she'll go out

00:29:06.809 --> 00:29:08.609
there and start digging at that. Is that basically

00:29:08.609 --> 00:29:11.029
the same kind of thing you're talking about?

00:29:11.369 --> 00:29:14.309
Yeah, so that could just be a stress response

00:29:14.309 --> 00:29:20.549
or a reaction response to that, you know, those

00:29:20.549 --> 00:29:25.150
dogs coming over. Is she trying to, is she like

00:29:25.150 --> 00:29:27.170
going under the fences? She's like trying to

00:29:27.170 --> 00:29:29.809
get out to them? No, they're coming out of it.

00:29:29.890 --> 00:29:35.759
They're actually... They've actually gotten where

00:29:35.759 --> 00:29:38.339
they're pulling off pieces of the boards. They're

00:29:38.339 --> 00:29:43.240
that aggressive to her. But usually if I go out

00:29:43.240 --> 00:29:45.660
there and I see they're out there, I'll get her

00:29:45.660 --> 00:29:48.019
back inside so they can have their time outside

00:29:48.019 --> 00:29:50.759
and she can have her time outside. If they happen

00:29:50.759 --> 00:29:52.579
to be out there and she needs to go to the bathroom

00:29:52.579 --> 00:29:55.640
and she makes a beeline over there, she's gotten

00:29:55.640 --> 00:29:57.319
really good about, I'll just sit there and say,

00:29:57.380 --> 00:30:01.420
Chenoa. I'll do the leave it like you guys taught

00:30:01.420 --> 00:30:03.640
us. And I say, leave it. And she, she looks at

00:30:03.640 --> 00:30:06.680
me and she's thinking like, but I want to. Right.

00:30:07.539 --> 00:30:10.180
Yeah. Sometimes she, you know, and there's times

00:30:10.180 --> 00:30:12.599
that she still walks over there, but for sure.

00:30:12.599 --> 00:30:14.240
A lot of times she'll just, she will leave it

00:30:14.240 --> 00:30:16.019
and just go and do her thing in our backyard

00:30:16.019 --> 00:30:18.640
and not even deal with it. But if we, but it's

00:30:18.640 --> 00:30:20.700
not a situation where we've gotten to the point

00:30:20.700 --> 00:30:23.599
where we can leave her outside. She just walks

00:30:23.599 --> 00:30:25.900
around and she'll even actually lay in the, now

00:30:25.900 --> 00:30:28.279
that it's getting warmer. She'll just go out

00:30:28.279 --> 00:30:30.079
there and lay in the grass and enjoy the sun.

00:30:30.660 --> 00:30:33.079
But if they're out there, I can't leave her because,

00:30:33.140 --> 00:30:35.960
you know, she's free. It's like you said, she's

00:30:35.960 --> 00:30:38.440
free and no supervision. She's going to do what

00:30:38.440 --> 00:30:42.269
she wants to do. Right. with the uh with because

00:30:42.269 --> 00:30:44.869
of that stimulation over there so yeah that's

00:30:44.869 --> 00:30:47.329
a tough one right you can only expect so much

00:30:47.329 --> 00:30:49.930
of your dog in a situation where other dogs are

00:30:49.930 --> 00:30:52.150
kind of like provoking them right it's like humans

00:30:52.150 --> 00:30:55.349
if somebody is like hey hey hey hey hey eventually

00:30:55.349 --> 00:30:57.410
you're gonna like snap right you're like get

00:30:57.410 --> 00:31:00.630
out of my face get out of here go away so that

00:31:00.630 --> 00:31:04.970
is a tough one um really i think you're i think

00:31:04.970 --> 00:31:07.480
you're doing a great job of like if you're able

00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:09.859
to stagger them like you're doing, I think that's

00:31:09.859 --> 00:31:14.079
a really good idea. And if she's going out there

00:31:14.079 --> 00:31:18.759
and behaving how she should when she's not being

00:31:18.759 --> 00:31:21.359
provoked by those dogs, then I think she's making

00:31:21.359 --> 00:31:24.160
great choices, but it sounds like those dogs

00:31:24.160 --> 00:31:28.039
technically aren't. Right. They're wild. Yeah.

00:31:29.259 --> 00:31:32.779
When they're pulling the wood off of the fence,

00:31:33.079 --> 00:31:39.460
do you... My brain is like going on, what do

00:31:39.460 --> 00:31:47.220
we do about that? There's a piece of board that

00:31:47.220 --> 00:31:49.279
was out there, and there was one area that was

00:31:49.279 --> 00:31:52.339
really bad. So when winter came along, I just

00:31:52.339 --> 00:31:56.539
put all the pots for the plants. I had this loose

00:31:56.539 --> 00:31:58.180
board that was just laying back there. I put

00:31:58.180 --> 00:32:00.750
it over the area that was really bad. And just

00:32:00.750 --> 00:32:02.670
put these pots in front of it. And that seemed

00:32:02.670 --> 00:32:04.710
to be the trick. But now they found another area

00:32:04.710 --> 00:32:07.069
of the fence. I only have so many pots I can

00:32:07.069 --> 00:32:09.109
block it with. I was thinking, what if you could

00:32:09.109 --> 00:32:12.309
staple some chicken wire or something over...

00:32:13.059 --> 00:32:16.640
So that and they also they make this stuff now

00:32:16.640 --> 00:32:19.140
that actually like stakes into the ground a little

00:32:19.140 --> 00:32:22.079
bit. And it's actually built for dogs that dig

00:32:22.079 --> 00:32:24.740
out of their fences. It kind of it goes into

00:32:24.740 --> 00:32:26.819
the ground just a little bit, but it's kind of

00:32:26.819 --> 00:32:30.299
like chicken wire. But it keeps it kind of anchored

00:32:30.299 --> 00:32:33.140
into the ground. So it'll keep them from going

00:32:33.140 --> 00:32:36.539
like just straight under it where like the fence

00:32:36.539 --> 00:32:41.380
kind of posts go. And then it also covers some

00:32:41.380 --> 00:32:43.619
of the area above the ground too. But yeah, I

00:32:43.619 --> 00:32:46.519
think a lot of people use chicken wire or some

00:32:46.519 --> 00:32:48.619
sort of like something besides wood, right? Wood

00:32:48.619 --> 00:32:51.880
is a very easy thing for dogs. And it's also

00:32:51.880 --> 00:32:55.039
like a lot of dogs love to chew on wood. So it's

00:32:55.039 --> 00:32:57.339
really easy for them to kind of gravitate towards

00:32:57.339 --> 00:32:59.900
that. So if you can do something like metal or

00:32:59.900 --> 00:33:04.559
wire, that will probably help you guys out. There

00:33:04.559 --> 00:33:07.019
is the area on the other side of the fence where

00:33:07.019 --> 00:33:11.039
one neighbor, he has the small dogs, and they're

00:33:11.039 --> 00:33:13.819
the yappy dogs that would bark all the time.

00:33:13.859 --> 00:33:16.180
And she used to go over there quite a bit, but

00:33:16.180 --> 00:33:18.940
he hasn't been leaving his dogs out. But I went

00:33:18.940 --> 00:33:20.940
over there, I was getting her away from my nose.

00:33:20.960 --> 00:33:23.140
They actually, the previous people that lived

00:33:23.140 --> 00:33:26.660
here, they buried bricks. Ah, yep, I've seen

00:33:26.660 --> 00:33:30.720
that. So I'm going to figure several things out

00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:32.380
because I've got this one area. They're moving

00:33:32.380 --> 00:33:34.599
in June. He's a military soldier. I was about

00:33:34.599 --> 00:33:36.940
to say, I for sure have him expense that out.

00:33:37.079 --> 00:33:39.480
Yeah, whatever you do. It's not often that you

00:33:39.480 --> 00:33:42.299
have to deal with other dogs digging into your

00:33:42.299 --> 00:33:44.680
yard. Right, that is different. Usually it's

00:33:44.680 --> 00:33:47.099
your dog that has to. Technically, I guess it's

00:33:47.099 --> 00:33:50.299
my fence, so they're damaging my fence. Exactly,

00:33:50.339 --> 00:33:52.180
that's why I'm like, yeah, they sound like they

00:33:52.180 --> 00:33:55.210
should be installing something for you. Own the

00:33:55.210 --> 00:34:01.789
fence. Yeah. If you see, if she's only digging

00:34:01.789 --> 00:34:05.109
when those dogs are coming over, it probably

00:34:05.109 --> 00:34:10.570
is related to a, I need to do something about

00:34:10.570 --> 00:34:13.769
this. And then, you know, it's kind of reactionary.

00:34:14.170 --> 00:34:17.030
She wants to interact with them. I know she does.

00:34:17.530 --> 00:34:20.250
And the problem is that these dogs, and I've

00:34:20.250 --> 00:34:23.530
held her up there to see them. But they've actually

00:34:23.530 --> 00:34:26.369
been at her, so they're aggressive. I think you

00:34:26.369 --> 00:34:28.969
met the one, but now he's got another one over

00:34:28.969 --> 00:34:31.329
there that's even worse than the other one. Gotcha.

00:34:31.389 --> 00:34:34.530
Well, it sounds like you're doing the right type

00:34:34.530 --> 00:34:37.110
of management where you're just not leaving her

00:34:37.110 --> 00:34:40.429
unsupervised and you're giving her other outlets

00:34:40.429 --> 00:34:43.110
in order to not stay out there in order to make

00:34:43.110 --> 00:34:46.409
those bad decisions. So that definitely is the

00:34:46.409 --> 00:34:49.230
right track to be on, especially when you can't

00:34:49.230 --> 00:34:51.639
control. whether someone else is leaving their

00:34:51.639 --> 00:34:53.480
dogs there. Right, and at least you have an end

00:34:53.480 --> 00:34:56.619
date and an end in sight for hopefully you won't

00:34:56.619 --> 00:34:58.860
get neighbors with dogs like that next. Yeah.

00:34:59.159 --> 00:35:01.820
You just start throwing our business card over

00:35:01.820 --> 00:35:04.559
the fence every time they start eating your wood.

00:35:05.739 --> 00:35:08.500
I'm going to staple it. Staple it to the inside

00:35:08.500 --> 00:35:11.829
of the fence. Yeah, there you go. I've actually

00:35:11.829 --> 00:35:15.469
told them about you guys. I tell everybody, I'm

00:35:15.469 --> 00:35:17.289
like, hey, here, this is the person you need

00:35:17.289 --> 00:35:20.170
to contact. Awesome. Thanks, Cliff. We appreciate

00:35:20.170 --> 00:35:24.010
that. Thanks for sharing. I appreciate you sharing

00:35:24.010 --> 00:35:27.530
your experience. All right. Anybody else got

00:35:27.530 --> 00:35:30.630
anything to share? And then we'll move forward

00:35:30.630 --> 00:35:38.869
with some solutions here. All right. I shared

00:35:38.869 --> 00:35:41.050
the only one I had, which is my dad's. Great

00:35:41.050 --> 00:35:43.570
Dane that digs. But yeah, hers is definitely

00:35:43.570 --> 00:35:48.110
for comfort and coolness. Yeah. Hey, Ryan. It's

00:35:48.110 --> 00:35:53.670
Fatima. Hey. Hey. So with Bubba. Don't you rat

00:35:53.670 --> 00:35:56.829
Bubba out. Yeah. The little rowdy one. He's like

00:35:56.829 --> 00:35:59.309
when he goes outside. I didn't do nothing. He's

00:35:59.309 --> 00:36:02.289
good. But one thing I'm having like trouble with.

00:36:02.449 --> 00:36:05.710
Well, I've been using like the little yank on

00:36:05.710 --> 00:36:08.329
the leash and no. And then like taking him somewhere

00:36:08.329 --> 00:36:11.929
else. But whenever he goes outside, he literally

00:36:11.929 --> 00:36:15.449
like puts his nose into the dirt and tries to

00:36:15.449 --> 00:36:18.570
like follow the ants or whatever bug he could

00:36:18.570 --> 00:36:23.130
see. That's that prey drive. I think one time

00:36:23.130 --> 00:36:25.570
I had to literally like take a bug out of his

00:36:25.570 --> 00:36:27.849
mouth because I was like, oh my God, what's going

00:36:27.849 --> 00:36:31.230
on? And he was trying to eat it. So I have no

00:36:31.230 --> 00:36:34.789
idea how to like stop him other than the little

00:36:34.789 --> 00:36:38.090
like tug at the leash and saying no. Yeah, so

00:36:38.090 --> 00:36:41.929
you're talking about when he's, like, on a walk

00:36:41.929 --> 00:36:45.090
or when he's out in the back going potty? When

00:36:45.090 --> 00:36:47.869
he's out on a walk, like, it could be outside

00:36:47.869 --> 00:36:51.289
pottying. It could be, like, most of these days

00:36:51.289 --> 00:36:54.590
because of his energy and me trying to get his

00:36:54.590 --> 00:36:56.670
energy out, I would take him out on a run with

00:36:56.670 --> 00:37:00.670
me. And he would, like, stop mid -run and then

00:37:00.670 --> 00:37:03.130
see the grass or see a bug or something. And

00:37:03.130 --> 00:37:05.960
then he would... run to the grass and just put

00:37:05.960 --> 00:37:08.599
his nose in there and start like trying to dig.

00:37:08.699 --> 00:37:10.340
And I'm like, I don't know what to do with you,

00:37:10.360 --> 00:37:14.280
buddy. So my favorite, um, my favorite thing

00:37:14.280 --> 00:37:17.199
to say to that is, and I try to always say it

00:37:17.199 --> 00:37:23.800
as a joke, um, because the, um, because I always

00:37:23.800 --> 00:37:27.139
want to support owners. Right. But I, I can't

00:37:27.139 --> 00:37:29.880
help but ask. If you're in the middle of the

00:37:29.880 --> 00:37:33.960
run, how can he physically, how can he stop,

00:37:34.179 --> 00:37:38.500
right? Because you have quite a bit of weight

00:37:38.500 --> 00:37:42.119
on him. He should not be able to stop you, right?

00:37:43.239 --> 00:37:45.420
Sometimes he scares me because I'm like, oh,

00:37:45.420 --> 00:37:47.559
shoot, he needs to go to the bathroom. So I'm

00:37:47.559 --> 00:37:50.420
like, okay, I'll let you go because he's tugging

00:37:50.420 --> 00:37:53.630
at it. And I'm like, okay, and then. Kind of

00:37:53.630 --> 00:37:56.909
low key tricks me. Yeah, that sounds like it

00:37:56.909 --> 00:37:59.989
sounds like that's exactly what I that's why

00:37:59.989 --> 00:38:02.449
I joke about it, because it sounds like he is

00:38:02.449 --> 00:38:05.469
tricking you to be like, actually, actually,

00:38:05.889 --> 00:38:09.489
I need to do this. And then he's like. Just kidding.

00:38:09.610 --> 00:38:12.210
So for starters, you can start off by making

00:38:12.210 --> 00:38:15.230
sure that you give him a potty break before you

00:38:15.230 --> 00:38:18.110
start that run so that then you know that he's

00:38:18.110 --> 00:38:20.849
already gone and he won't have to go on the run.

00:38:20.969 --> 00:38:23.050
So if he goes to stop, it's like, no, no, we

00:38:23.050 --> 00:38:25.570
already went potty. Because that's another concept

00:38:25.570 --> 00:38:27.429
of like if he's a male dog and it isn't going

00:38:27.429 --> 00:38:29.309
to get fixed, right? At some point, he'll start

00:38:29.309 --> 00:38:31.869
marking things and he'll stop every five seconds

00:38:31.869 --> 00:38:34.670
if you allow him to. Right. And at that point,

00:38:34.690 --> 00:38:36.289
it's like, well, this is mine and this is mine

00:38:36.289 --> 00:38:38.030
and this is mine and this is mine. And he's not

00:38:38.030 --> 00:38:39.989
even peeing. on it anymore he's just like well

00:38:39.989 --> 00:38:44.449
i i think i am i feel like i am so i'd say give

00:38:44.449 --> 00:38:46.829
him that potty break first that way you're confident

00:38:46.829 --> 00:38:49.070
just like when you put him in a crate that he's

00:38:49.070 --> 00:38:52.210
already gone and you don't have to stop for him

00:38:52.210 --> 00:38:56.849
and then that's go ahead that's what he's been

00:38:56.849 --> 00:38:59.650
doing recently like every time he goes outside

00:38:59.650 --> 00:39:03.519
he quote -unquote peas but he's not peeing yeah

00:39:03.519 --> 00:39:06.280
he's just marking every single area and then

00:39:06.280 --> 00:39:08.860
he's getting to the right age that's what he's

00:39:08.860 --> 00:39:12.840
gonna start doing boy dog he's like oh mom just

00:39:12.840 --> 00:39:15.280
gonna pee everywhere and then sniff and kind

00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:17.760
of like take every single bug i see there's like

00:39:17.760 --> 00:39:21.530
yeah ants that were walking by and he was following

00:39:21.530 --> 00:39:25.170
them so like the management strategy to this

00:39:25.170 --> 00:39:27.969
um to answer your question and just answer it

00:39:27.969 --> 00:39:30.530
matter of fact the management strategy to this

00:39:30.530 --> 00:39:36.050
is to not allow him to stop you and so that and

00:39:36.050 --> 00:39:38.949
that means that if you're still moving forward

00:39:38.949 --> 00:39:44.150
that i know for a fact that bubba is what is

00:39:44.150 --> 00:39:49.599
he like 30 pounds yeah maybe maybe that 35 pounds.

00:39:49.639 --> 00:39:54.940
Okay. All right. So you for sure. In order for

00:39:54.940 --> 00:39:59.719
a 35 pound dog to stop you, we have to basically

00:39:59.719 --> 00:40:03.659
allow them to stop us. Right. Yeah. And so because

00:40:03.659 --> 00:40:08.000
as as an adult male or female, we should be able

00:40:08.000 --> 00:40:14.480
to just drive forward. And so what it ends up

00:40:14.480 --> 00:40:17.230
being is that. Like you said, he tricks you.

00:40:17.329 --> 00:40:20.090
You're like, oh, well, I need to let him do this.

00:40:20.130 --> 00:40:23.130
Well, I would say that you probably don't, especially

00:40:23.130 --> 00:40:25.929
if you're letting him go ahead of time before

00:40:25.929 --> 00:40:29.170
that run. I would just not don't let him stop.

00:40:29.309 --> 00:40:32.329
You don't let him pancake out and start sniffing.

00:40:32.449 --> 00:40:36.070
And that way you don't have to turn off the prey

00:40:36.070 --> 00:40:39.510
drive once it starts. Okay. And then for, like,

00:40:39.530 --> 00:40:42.210
instances where you're just letting him go potty

00:40:42.210 --> 00:40:43.969
and you're not on a run, right? He's on his own

00:40:43.969 --> 00:40:48.500
time. You're in our training. and I think you've

00:40:48.500 --> 00:40:50.579
got it coming up in your next lesson, leave it

00:40:50.579 --> 00:40:53.800
is going to be a good one for items like that.

00:40:53.920 --> 00:40:56.619
If he goes to like pull at something or things

00:40:56.619 --> 00:40:58.860
that he's not allowed to have, that's where we

00:40:58.860 --> 00:41:02.039
introduce that command. Just like Cliff was talking

00:41:02.039 --> 00:41:05.519
about with Chenoa, where you can tell them to

00:41:05.519 --> 00:41:08.739
leave it and then you can reward them yourself

00:41:08.739 --> 00:41:14.320
for leaving objects alone. Yep. Okay. That makes

00:41:14.320 --> 00:41:16.460
sense. I'll do that with him. Perfect. Awesome.

00:41:16.920 --> 00:41:19.119
Thank you. Yeah, thanks for the input. I appreciate

00:41:19.119 --> 00:41:23.559
you jumping in there. All right, so now let's

00:41:23.559 --> 00:41:28.280
talk about how to stop the digging and how to

00:41:28.280 --> 00:41:32.489
protect your yard. Because that is... paramount

00:41:32.489 --> 00:41:35.389
importance right don't ask us about what types

00:41:35.389 --> 00:41:39.190
of grass first off first of all we having four

00:41:39.190 --> 00:41:42.929
dogs we have 27 blends of grass very little grass

00:41:42.929 --> 00:41:45.929
in the backyard but we're trying we're trying

00:41:45.929 --> 00:41:49.869
hard okay so control number one control the rehear

00:41:49.869 --> 00:41:54.710
we need to control the rehearsal of these behaviors

00:41:54.710 --> 00:41:57.809
and so let's talk about how we do that one we

00:41:57.809 --> 00:42:02.860
supervise one we supervise all Yard time. This

00:42:02.860 --> 00:42:07.539
is identical to all of these other bad behavior

00:42:07.539 --> 00:42:10.159
type things that we've talked about in previous

00:42:10.159 --> 00:42:13.340
weeks. We have to supervise. If you aren't there

00:42:13.340 --> 00:42:16.739
and you're not watching, you can affect a change.

00:42:17.019 --> 00:42:22.380
And that's just the unfortunate reality. I totally

00:42:22.380 --> 00:42:27.559
empathize with the concept that, hey, things

00:42:27.559 --> 00:42:29.780
are busy. You can't watch your dog all the time.

00:42:29.860 --> 00:42:35.900
Yep. I understand. But if you can't watch your

00:42:35.900 --> 00:42:40.800
dog, you also can't really keep them from digging

00:42:40.800 --> 00:42:44.360
in a fair and ethical way. We've got to interrupt

00:42:44.360 --> 00:42:47.559
the digging as it's happening and prevent it

00:42:47.559 --> 00:42:52.079
with supervision. Number two. We can provide

00:42:52.079 --> 00:42:55.480
replacement behaviors outdoors. And here's where

00:42:55.480 --> 00:42:57.679
we start to get into how we can actually prevent

00:42:57.679 --> 00:43:00.360
it, whether you're watching it or not. We can

00:43:00.360 --> 00:43:05.300
reward and provide replacement behaviors. By

00:43:05.300 --> 00:43:08.739
giving your dog something else to do outside,

00:43:08.960 --> 00:43:16.260
you create another something for the dog to do

00:43:16.260 --> 00:43:19.559
instead. And so instead of them... being bored

00:43:19.559 --> 00:43:21.980
out of their minds um there are these things

00:43:21.980 --> 00:43:26.280
uh called jolly balls um they're kind of like

00:43:26.280 --> 00:43:29.300
these big plastic weighted balls that a dog can

00:43:29.300 --> 00:43:33.199
like push around and they can't really bite so

00:43:33.199 --> 00:43:35.199
they can't like get their mouth around it because

00:43:35.199 --> 00:43:39.440
it's it's like 12 inches around or 12 inches

00:43:39.440 --> 00:43:41.920
in diameter and there's some with handles and

00:43:41.920 --> 00:43:45.019
a bunch of different things but there's um something

00:43:45.019 --> 00:43:50.420
that you can get your dog to allow them to interact

00:43:50.420 --> 00:43:54.119
with something to be less bored. Yeah. Right.

00:43:54.179 --> 00:43:56.019
That's what we're talking about here. Did you

00:43:56.019 --> 00:43:58.840
get through the legal digging outlet? Did you

00:43:58.840 --> 00:44:00.880
give an example of one? No, no, we haven't. We

00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:02.679
haven't done that yet. Okay, go ahead. That's

00:44:02.679 --> 00:44:04.800
the next. Oh, go for it. Yeah. All right. So

00:44:04.800 --> 00:44:09.000
the next, the next one is create a legal, a legal,

00:44:09.000 --> 00:44:16.369
you did create. An allowed digging outlet. A

00:44:16.369 --> 00:44:20.030
legal one. Right. It's illegal. It's illegal

00:44:20.030 --> 00:44:22.309
over here. It's illegal over here. It makes sense

00:44:22.309 --> 00:44:28.630
to me. Right. So create a area for your dog to

00:44:28.630 --> 00:44:34.210
be able to dig. Now, this is controversial. Legal.

00:44:34.369 --> 00:44:37.070
Illegal. Right. Because some people are like,

00:44:37.130 --> 00:44:39.250
well, I don't want my dog to dig anywhere. Okay.

00:44:39.309 --> 00:44:42.230
I got it. But if you've got a terrier. Right.

00:44:42.670 --> 00:44:47.550
A dog who was literally bred and selected for

00:44:47.550 --> 00:44:51.710
their digging abilities and then bred over generations

00:44:51.710 --> 00:44:55.750
to improve those digging and sniffing and seeking

00:44:55.750 --> 00:44:59.989
out abilities, that prey drive. Well, you might

00:44:59.989 --> 00:45:01.710
not witness. They're for sure going to do it

00:45:01.710 --> 00:45:03.610
to your couch because I've seen that a million

00:45:03.610 --> 00:45:07.019
times. It's important to talk about this, though,

00:45:07.099 --> 00:45:10.099
that the dog that you have directly influences

00:45:10.099 --> 00:45:12.659
how you're going to approach this. If you've

00:45:12.659 --> 00:45:17.219
got a dog that by their nature is bred to dig,

00:45:17.420 --> 00:45:21.860
you are going to have to take a different approach

00:45:21.860 --> 00:45:26.090
than someone with a French Bulldog. Right. That's

00:45:26.090 --> 00:45:28.949
like saying your bulldog like isn't like you

00:45:28.949 --> 00:45:31.090
don't you don't want them to bite anything ever.

00:45:31.150 --> 00:45:33.690
Right. It's like I don't I'm not I'm not sure

00:45:33.690 --> 00:45:36.010
what you think that those fat jowls were made

00:45:36.010 --> 00:45:37.969
for, but they were for sure made for biting.

00:45:38.050 --> 00:45:40.570
Right. So they're going to bite bread and selected

00:45:40.570 --> 00:45:45.349
for that. Yeah. So also legal digging. I'm so

00:45:45.349 --> 00:45:48.289
excited. Only because nobody ever really thinks

00:45:48.289 --> 00:45:50.929
of this one. It's such a genius one. And and

00:45:50.929 --> 00:45:53.460
some dogs will like it and some dogs won't. It

00:45:53.460 --> 00:45:55.840
depends on your dog. Lay it on us. The nail boards.

00:45:56.059 --> 00:45:58.340
Have you ever seen those? Yes. It's literally

00:45:58.340 --> 00:46:03.719
a slanted piece of sandpaper that trims your

00:46:03.719 --> 00:46:08.420
dog's nails, grinds them as they dig. Some dogs

00:46:08.420 --> 00:46:11.880
love it. Some dogs won't touch it. They're going

00:46:11.880 --> 00:46:14.940
to be like, what? But it's a digging behavior.

00:46:14.960 --> 00:46:18.579
It's that repetitive digging behavior. It solves

00:46:18.579 --> 00:46:21.949
two problems for you at the same time. How would

00:46:21.949 --> 00:46:24.949
you institute it, though? Right. I was going

00:46:24.949 --> 00:46:29.309
to say, you might have to mark some dicking first.

00:46:30.219 --> 00:46:32.800
Give them some legal digging area. Yeah, give

00:46:32.800 --> 00:46:35.840
them some legal digging area to market so that

00:46:35.840 --> 00:46:39.219
you can like put it on cue and shape it and things

00:46:39.219 --> 00:46:43.059
like that. Right. So when you create a, I can't

00:46:43.059 --> 00:46:45.519
stop saying it. I know. When you create a legal

00:46:45.519 --> 00:46:51.460
digging area, you can also start teaching your

00:46:51.460 --> 00:46:55.239
dog to dig there. Yeah. And how do we do that?

00:46:55.820 --> 00:46:58.659
Well, you can put something in the ground that

00:46:58.659 --> 00:47:01.250
they can dig up. Yeah. Put something that smells

00:47:01.250 --> 00:47:05.329
good, right? Take like a bone or take a Kong

00:47:05.329 --> 00:47:07.650
with some peanut butter or something that's yummy

00:47:07.650 --> 00:47:10.670
smelling in it and put it just below the surface.

00:47:10.829 --> 00:47:15.789
And then in, but only in that area. Another thing,

00:47:15.949 --> 00:47:19.190
another trick here is that create a boundary

00:47:19.190 --> 00:47:22.289
to this area. So it needs to have some sort of

00:47:22.289 --> 00:47:26.119
visible boundary, whether it's like. a literal

00:47:26.119 --> 00:47:29.460
like bordered flower bed or you've got some decorative

00:47:29.460 --> 00:47:33.440
brick around it or a sandbox. All of those things

00:47:33.440 --> 00:47:37.800
are options for legal digging areas. A sandbox,

00:47:37.940 --> 00:47:41.800
a kid's sandbox is an excellent, excellent option

00:47:41.800 --> 00:47:44.920
because you can put that on concrete. You can

00:47:44.920 --> 00:47:47.039
put that on the back porch and it's like, no,

00:47:47.119 --> 00:47:49.639
no, you can dig in here, but you can't dig in

00:47:49.639 --> 00:47:54.280
the grass. That way it's even more. effective

00:47:54.280 --> 00:47:58.320
because now the sand and the dirt have two different

00:47:58.320 --> 00:48:01.300
feels to it and you're like no don't dig in the

00:48:01.300 --> 00:48:05.440
grass here dig here and then you reward it this

00:48:05.440 --> 00:48:08.159
is the same concept as teaching a dog that's

00:48:08.159 --> 00:48:12.719
very bitey to bite a tug toy and not bite your

00:48:12.719 --> 00:48:15.820
hand yeah right it's like no no that feels very

00:48:15.820 --> 00:48:18.239
different when you bite me you bite a person

00:48:18.239 --> 00:48:20.800
or a hand that feels very different than you

00:48:20.800 --> 00:48:24.280
biting this plush like uh, tug toy. Yeah. And

00:48:24.280 --> 00:48:26.559
hiding something of value is going to be super

00:48:26.559 --> 00:48:28.820
easy because if you have a dog that digs already

00:48:28.820 --> 00:48:32.139
90 % chance, you have a dog that takes their

00:48:32.139 --> 00:48:34.480
items and buries their items because they wanted

00:48:34.480 --> 00:48:36.880
to get up later. They're like, I'm going to save

00:48:36.880 --> 00:48:39.260
that. And I, it's going to be so fun. I'm going

00:48:39.260 --> 00:48:41.860
to wait, but I can't, it's going to be so fun.

00:48:41.980 --> 00:48:43.400
I'm going to leave it here. I'm going to come

00:48:43.400 --> 00:48:47.380
back. Um, the next thing that we can do is we

00:48:47.380 --> 00:48:50.619
can increase their structured exercise. So, uh,

00:48:50.860 --> 00:48:55.420
going for those, Before I go down that road,

00:48:55.539 --> 00:49:02.659
a walk is not usually sufficient exercise for

00:49:02.659 --> 00:49:05.360
a dog that needs more exercise. Right. It's not

00:49:05.360 --> 00:49:08.239
a replacement exercise for digging. Correct.

00:49:08.650 --> 00:49:12.130
it's still a starting point, right? When you

00:49:12.130 --> 00:49:14.829
like even run a dog, you don't just immediately

00:49:14.829 --> 00:49:17.630
go to running because a dog still needs to like

00:49:17.630 --> 00:49:20.570
stretch out and like move its limbs and like

00:49:20.570 --> 00:49:22.909
get everything moving before they can like pick

00:49:22.909 --> 00:49:26.070
up the pace. So a walk isn't necessarily just

00:49:26.070 --> 00:49:28.349
for the exercise. It's like a warmup. It's like

00:49:28.349 --> 00:49:32.309
a preparation for other activities that can meet

00:49:32.309 --> 00:49:34.510
that drive. Right. And where I'm going with this

00:49:34.510 --> 00:49:39.039
is that, The exercise that we do is not just

00:49:39.039 --> 00:49:43.210
physical in nature. It's mental. Right, we make

00:49:43.210 --> 00:49:46.730
dogs do things on walks. Right, so when I say

00:49:46.730 --> 00:49:50.230
increased structured exercise, I'm not just talking

00:49:50.230 --> 00:49:52.550
about running your dog, getting their heart rate

00:49:52.550 --> 00:49:55.510
up, like we think of exercise. We're also talking

00:49:55.510 --> 00:49:57.510
about snuffle mats. We're also talking about

00:49:57.510 --> 00:50:00.070
food hunting, like hunting for food in sniff

00:50:00.070 --> 00:50:02.769
games. We're talking about scent work. We're

00:50:02.769 --> 00:50:04.889
talking about bite work. We're talking about

00:50:04.889 --> 00:50:10.929
things that challenge the dog mentally. The reason...

00:50:11.400 --> 00:50:16.960
I want to frame it that way because most, I don't

00:50:16.960 --> 00:50:19.920
want to pigeonhole everyone into most people,

00:50:20.039 --> 00:50:23.179
but a lot of owners, when I talk to them about

00:50:23.179 --> 00:50:26.360
exercise, they immediately think of, oh, I need

00:50:26.360 --> 00:50:31.260
to go for two walks a day instead of one. That's

00:50:31.260 --> 00:50:34.340
not what I'm saying. I'm saying exercise. And

00:50:34.340 --> 00:50:38.000
that can be mental exercise. Just as much as

00:50:38.000 --> 00:50:42.460
physical. The actual physical exercise of going

00:50:42.460 --> 00:50:47.820
for a walk is good, but it is not a replacement

00:50:47.820 --> 00:50:52.280
of mental stimulation. Right. And it can be as

00:50:52.280 --> 00:50:56.780
intense as teaching your dog something new, right?

00:50:56.920 --> 00:51:01.969
We teach basics to most people. but dogs can

00:51:01.969 --> 00:51:04.969
do such cool tricks. Like I watched one of our

00:51:04.969 --> 00:51:07.369
clients the other day, they did like the bang

00:51:07.369 --> 00:51:10.070
with the like finger gun and their dog like fell

00:51:10.070 --> 00:51:13.230
on their side. And I was like, Oh my God, I can

00:51:13.230 --> 00:51:17.630
not. That's so cute. Right. And it's, those are

00:51:17.630 --> 00:51:19.530
the things like, I don't even like get to teach

00:51:19.530 --> 00:51:21.750
dogs. Right. Cause I'm so busy like teaching

00:51:21.750 --> 00:51:24.710
all the basics, but you can work your dog through

00:51:24.710 --> 00:51:27.769
those things. If you, if you know the basics

00:51:27.769 --> 00:51:30.510
of how to teach your dog to sit that. we have

00:51:30.510 --> 00:51:34.030
taught most of our clients anyways, you can take

00:51:34.030 --> 00:51:37.449
those instances and move it into fun, like little

00:51:37.449 --> 00:51:40.170
games. Our biggest thing is teaching that communication.

00:51:40.489 --> 00:51:43.769
Yeah. So that then you can then apply it to everything.

00:51:43.789 --> 00:51:46.630
Right. But it doesn't stop at like, sit down,

00:51:46.750 --> 00:51:50.190
place, leave it, come here, do whatever. It's

00:51:50.190 --> 00:51:52.250
like, cool. Pull out a finger gun and be like,

00:51:52.250 --> 00:51:55.949
bang. And start teaching your dog to like roll

00:51:55.949 --> 00:51:57.989
on its side. That's the cutest. Teach your dog

00:51:57.989 --> 00:52:01.250
to roll over. Right. What happened to roll over?

00:52:01.550 --> 00:52:03.550
I haven't seen that one in a long time. Right.

00:52:03.550 --> 00:52:05.710
Well, right. Checkers does it by herself. That's

00:52:05.710 --> 00:52:07.750
why I think of it. Cause like she naturally rolls

00:52:07.750 --> 00:52:10.769
over and if we just clicked it a few times, she'd

00:52:10.769 --> 00:52:12.969
have it in a heartbeat and it would be on command.

00:52:13.090 --> 00:52:15.110
Right. But you can go on YouTube and you can

00:52:15.110 --> 00:52:18.610
pull up a thousand different skills and games

00:52:18.610 --> 00:52:20.309
and things that you can do with your dog. Right.

00:52:20.309 --> 00:52:23.349
Or text us and message us or whatever. And we'll

00:52:23.349 --> 00:52:25.429
give you some ideas. Teach your dog to jump off

00:52:25.429 --> 00:52:27.969
of things. Right. To jump onto things. They love

00:52:27.969 --> 00:52:32.190
to parkour. Yeah. To jump over things, to jump

00:52:32.190 --> 00:52:38.690
over your finger in a slowly graduated, you know,

00:52:38.690 --> 00:52:42.789
height. You can teach them to jump, to bounce

00:52:42.789 --> 00:52:46.250
off of things, to like rebound off of, you know,

00:52:46.250 --> 00:52:49.789
the. A tree or a wall. Teach them to go around

00:52:49.789 --> 00:52:51.889
something. Yeah, that's a fun one. That one's

00:52:51.889 --> 00:52:54.210
fun. I did get to do that one with an Aussie

00:52:54.210 --> 00:52:56.530
one time, and it was like out and around, which

00:52:56.530 --> 00:52:58.210
was just like teaching it to go one way around

00:52:58.210 --> 00:53:00.329
a cone and then back the other way around the

00:53:00.329 --> 00:53:02.309
cone. That was a good one. I loved that one.

00:53:02.309 --> 00:53:05.010
Right, but those things are so cool because they're

00:53:05.010 --> 00:53:09.050
all mentally stimulating. Yeah. I watched a video

00:53:09.050 --> 00:53:11.590
of a pug the other day. You never see pugs doing

00:53:11.590 --> 00:53:14.409
anything. This pug was like in the basement with

00:53:14.409 --> 00:53:16.170
the guy, and there were like... I saw that one.

00:53:16.429 --> 00:53:18.230
You're right. There were like tires set up and

00:53:18.230 --> 00:53:20.389
he jumped over one and then through the other

00:53:20.389 --> 00:53:22.610
two. And then he was doing the rebounds. Yeah.

00:53:22.730 --> 00:53:25.570
He rebounded off the wall and then he was jumping

00:53:25.570 --> 00:53:28.750
onto like a bench for like workout stuff. And

00:53:28.750 --> 00:53:32.150
he just did like a whole relay like in the basement.

00:53:32.250 --> 00:53:34.809
It's like, cool. You don't need specialized equipment.

00:53:35.110 --> 00:53:38.550
Like if you grab a couple of cones from Walmart

00:53:38.550 --> 00:53:41.050
and a broomstick and stick them through the holes

00:53:41.050 --> 00:53:43.889
of those cones, you can make a little like, what

00:53:43.889 --> 00:53:46.750
is it called? a little thing like an agility

00:53:46.750 --> 00:53:52.230
um a jump my brain is done i don't know what

00:53:52.230 --> 00:53:54.949
it's called there's a name for it i don't know

00:53:54.949 --> 00:53:56.750
but yeah you can build a little jump that your

00:53:56.750 --> 00:53:59.670
dog can like learn how to go over under or weave

00:53:59.670 --> 00:54:03.710
around you know i've used like different little

00:54:03.710 --> 00:54:06.969
bottles that i've set up a hurdle thank you gosh

00:54:06.969 --> 00:54:10.070
that was never gonna come to me i wasn't even

00:54:10.070 --> 00:54:13.250
on the tip of my tongue at all But you can use

00:54:13.250 --> 00:54:17.650
everyday household items to teach your dog cool

00:54:17.650 --> 00:54:20.309
new things. I love touch. That's my other favorite.

00:54:20.469 --> 00:54:22.630
That's a fun one. Touch is a really great one.

00:54:22.769 --> 00:54:25.409
It's so fun. I know we've gone way off the side

00:54:25.409 --> 00:54:28.250
here. Sorry. Do you have any science lessons?

00:54:28.409 --> 00:54:29.449
We didn't do any science lessons. I don't have

00:54:29.449 --> 00:54:31.190
any science lessons. Just play fun games with

00:54:31.190 --> 00:54:32.550
your dog. So play fun games with your dog. Teach

00:54:32.550 --> 00:54:36.269
them new things. Touch is super fun. Yeah. teach

00:54:36.269 --> 00:54:40.329
touch with either a targeting device which is

00:54:40.329 --> 00:54:43.929
like a like a little ball on the end of a like

00:54:43.929 --> 00:54:45.829
a microscopic stick is that what it's called

00:54:45.829 --> 00:54:50.329
micro microscopic telescopic telescopic yeah

00:54:50.329 --> 00:54:55.909
on a telescoping uh stick right you can another

00:54:55.909 --> 00:54:59.429
really successful my brain is toast regardless

00:54:59.429 --> 00:55:01.690
of that one we're gonna set that one to the side

00:55:01.690 --> 00:55:06.429
the What we can do is we can teach a dog to touch

00:55:06.429 --> 00:55:10.969
a post -it note. And then you can take that post

00:55:10.969 --> 00:55:15.489
-it note and you can put it on everything. Yeah,

00:55:15.489 --> 00:55:17.449
you can teach your dog to turn on a light. Right.

00:55:18.049 --> 00:55:19.989
That's how you do it. We got one of those automatic

00:55:19.989 --> 00:55:22.050
like treat feeders where we teach them like the

00:55:22.050 --> 00:55:24.449
dog touches the button and the food dispenses

00:55:24.449 --> 00:55:26.070
out of this little like thing on the other side

00:55:26.070 --> 00:55:27.969
of the room. The dog's running back and forth

00:55:27.969 --> 00:55:30.269
and then they're like, oh my gosh, I found this

00:55:30.269 --> 00:55:32.809
magic button over here and it spits out food

00:55:32.809 --> 00:55:36.449
way over here. So many dogs love that. And that's

00:55:36.449 --> 00:55:38.849
like mental exercise and physical exercise at

00:55:38.849 --> 00:55:41.769
the same time. It's like feed your dog breakfast

00:55:41.769 --> 00:55:43.610
that way and tell me how tired they are when

00:55:43.610 --> 00:55:47.809
they're done. Yeah, for sure. Those are all things

00:55:47.809 --> 00:55:53.429
to bring this back to digging. All of those things

00:55:53.429 --> 00:55:57.190
are things that we can increase their mental

00:55:57.190 --> 00:56:00.389
stimulation and fulfillment in all these things

00:56:00.389 --> 00:56:06.329
that reduce at least three of the main reasons

00:56:06.329 --> 00:56:10.690
why a dog starts digging. We decrease boredom.

00:56:10.690 --> 00:56:15.710
We decrease that. Let me go back to the very

00:56:15.710 --> 00:56:19.909
first thing. Right. Not so much the prey drive,

00:56:20.030 --> 00:56:24.949
but the stress reduction. Oh, okay. Right? Relief,

00:56:24.969 --> 00:56:28.710
entertainment, stress reduction. All of those

00:56:28.710 --> 00:56:31.550
things were things that we named on the very,

00:56:31.590 --> 00:56:38.449
very beginning of this episode. The last thing

00:56:38.449 --> 00:56:42.849
that we do is we reward their calm, good choices.

00:56:43.719 --> 00:56:46.920
Because we've got to reward them when they're

00:56:46.920 --> 00:56:49.599
making good choices. And that can be as simple

00:56:49.599 --> 00:56:54.440
as them not digging. Yep. Right? Give them, like,

00:56:54.559 --> 00:56:59.940
cool. I left you for 20 seconds out there and

00:56:59.940 --> 00:57:02.619
you didn't dig? Awesome. Great job. Let me throw

00:57:02.619 --> 00:57:05.900
a ball for you. Hey, awesome. Let me do this.

00:57:05.920 --> 00:57:08.400
Let me do that. All of those things, we've got

00:57:08.400 --> 00:57:12.969
to give them some enrichment. that came from

00:57:12.969 --> 00:57:15.670
the fact that they were successful and they didn't

00:57:15.670 --> 00:57:18.630
go off and invent their own activities. Yep.

00:57:19.050 --> 00:57:23.849
All right. With that, let's open it up for any

00:57:23.849 --> 00:57:27.530
additional questions, comments, concerns, anything

00:57:27.530 --> 00:57:30.590
from anyone who is listening right now. I'll

00:57:30.590 --> 00:57:33.570
give you just a minute and then we'll go right

00:57:33.570 --> 00:57:51.690
into listener projects. Nothing. All right. And

00:57:51.690 --> 00:57:54.449
listener project number one, structured yard

00:57:54.449 --> 00:58:04.929
time reset. So we want to not leave the dog unsupervised.

00:58:05.110 --> 00:58:08.150
Yeah, supervised yard time only. Supervised yard

00:58:08.150 --> 00:58:11.349
time only. And we're going to set a time. So

00:58:11.349 --> 00:58:15.690
cool. Set five days, six days, seven days, whatever

00:58:15.690 --> 00:58:18.699
it is. We are not going to leave them unsupervised

00:58:18.699 --> 00:58:21.900
for that amount of time. Set a goal for yourself

00:58:21.900 --> 00:58:24.420
so that it's not like, oh, this is my new life.

00:58:24.500 --> 00:58:26.820
I can never leave them in the backyard. No, it's

00:58:26.820 --> 00:58:29.179
not forever. We just need to break down some

00:58:29.179 --> 00:58:34.460
patterns. If you've got a chronic digger, you've

00:58:34.460 --> 00:58:38.480
got to start with, cool, three days. For three

00:58:38.480 --> 00:58:41.059
days, I am not going to leave them unsupervised.

00:58:42.219 --> 00:58:44.679
The way that we change anything, this is where

00:58:44.679 --> 00:58:46.800
we go back to all of these other previous podcast

00:58:46.800 --> 00:58:51.179
episodes. The way we change any behavior is by

00:58:51.179 --> 00:58:57.820
letting behaviors die out by not repeating them.

00:58:59.000 --> 00:59:05.320
So we need to supervise them because there's

00:59:05.320 --> 00:59:08.199
very, very few owners that ever contact me and

00:59:08.199 --> 00:59:12.010
they're like, my dog digs incessantly. Every

00:59:12.010 --> 00:59:14.050
time that I go in the backyard and watch them.

00:59:14.170 --> 00:59:16.630
Yeah. That's not usually the call that I get.

00:59:17.030 --> 00:59:24.489
So watch them and engage them and let those patterns

00:59:24.489 --> 00:59:28.510
start to weaken naturally in the dog's brain.

00:59:29.449 --> 00:59:34.630
Then we can affect a change. Additionally, if

00:59:34.630 --> 00:59:37.210
your dog is a chronic digger, because it's not

00:59:37.210 --> 00:59:39.070
impossible. It's like, yeah, they go outside,

00:59:39.210 --> 00:59:40.730
they dig. They don't care whether I'm there or

00:59:40.730 --> 00:59:45.690
not. Cool. Put them on a leash. You got to maintain

00:59:45.690 --> 00:59:48.269
some accountability. Put them on a long line.

00:59:49.050 --> 00:59:52.829
And then if they do dig, we're going to interrupt

00:59:52.829 --> 00:59:56.690
it. Interrupt the digging calmly and redirect

00:59:56.690 --> 01:00:00.590
them towards a behavior that you do want. Don't

01:00:00.590 --> 01:00:03.610
just tell them, no, don't do that. No, don't

01:00:03.610 --> 01:00:06.630
do that. Tell them, no, don't do that. And then

01:00:06.630 --> 01:00:09.550
give them that redirection. Do this instead.

01:00:10.760 --> 01:00:17.719
And then keep track. Keep track of your attempts.

01:00:18.000 --> 01:00:21.519
Keep track of your progress. Actually write something

01:00:21.519 --> 01:00:25.039
down and journal. When we get to May 1st and

01:00:25.039 --> 01:00:27.579
we get to our launch date for the Pawprint Academy

01:00:27.579 --> 01:00:32.000
app, I am super, super excited for people to

01:00:32.000 --> 01:00:37.139
start using this. The app and the AI features

01:00:37.139 --> 01:00:40.059
and all of the planning and the courses, it's

01:00:40.059 --> 01:00:44.119
all built around a simple concept, which is logging

01:00:44.119 --> 01:00:49.460
and journaling. If you journal and you keep track

01:00:49.460 --> 01:00:52.699
of your dog and you just keep track of where

01:00:52.699 --> 01:00:57.059
you are, you will make more progress. 100 % across

01:00:57.059 --> 01:00:59.280
the board. But you've got to know where you are

01:00:59.280 --> 01:01:04.269
in order to decide where to go. You cannot get

01:01:04.269 --> 01:01:06.170
where you're going by looking in the rearview

01:01:06.170 --> 01:01:09.829
mirror. All right, project number two, outdoor

01:01:09.829 --> 01:01:13.949
default behavior. So let's choose a place down

01:01:13.949 --> 01:01:19.889
or a check -in, right? Choose something that

01:01:19.889 --> 01:01:24.250
you want your dog to do and then practice that

01:01:24.250 --> 01:01:28.190
outside when the dog normally would be digging.

01:01:28.989 --> 01:01:35.480
So put a place bed outside. Ask for a down. Ask

01:01:35.480 --> 01:01:39.760
the dog to come check in with you. Play fetch.

01:01:40.099 --> 01:01:45.960
Something, but do it reliably, consistently,

01:01:46.019 --> 01:01:50.519
and replace the bad behavior with that new behavior.

01:01:50.960 --> 01:01:54.360
Practice it daily. Practice it outside. Practice

01:01:54.360 --> 01:02:00.539
it in replacement of that bad behavior, that

01:02:00.539 --> 01:02:06.969
digging. reward that good behavior. Yep. That's

01:02:06.969 --> 01:02:09.489
how we're going to make that change. All right.

01:02:09.989 --> 01:02:12.309
That's what we got for you tonight. Thanks for

01:02:12.309 --> 01:02:17.010
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01:02:36.480 --> 01:02:39.099
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01:02:39.099 --> 01:02:42.900
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01:02:42.900 --> 01:02:46.599
to get better. I got a thick skin, so if you

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can't hear us or the sound's not leveled out

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or something like that, hey, let me know because

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I won't know if you don't tell me. Thanks for

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tuning in. Thanks for listening. Thanks for supporting

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us. I hope that you have a great night. With

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that, good night. Good night.
