WEBVTT 00:00:33.420 --> 00:00:36.219 Welcome to Pawprint Academy, your blueprint to 00:00:36.219 --> 00:00:39.140 raising better dogs. My name is Ryan, and I'll 00:00:39.140 --> 00:00:42.020 be your host for this journey. I've got my trusty 00:00:42.020 --> 00:00:44.640 co -host here, Brianna. Hello. And together, 00:00:44.659 --> 00:00:46.520 we're bringing you real -world training insights 00:00:46.520 --> 00:00:49.259 built on leadership, structure, and proven methods. 00:00:49.920 --> 00:00:52.520 We record this podcast with live clients on the 00:00:52.520 --> 00:00:55.780 line in one take with live, unscripted questions 00:00:55.780 --> 00:00:58.579 and answers. At the end of the day, this podcast 00:00:58.579 --> 00:01:00.600 is a lot more than just teaching your dog to 00:01:00.600 --> 00:01:04.950 sit or stay. creating calmness, and becoming 00:01:04.950 --> 00:01:07.909 the kind of leader your dog truly needs. We do 00:01:07.909 --> 00:01:10.349 that with our three pillar method of trust, obey, 00:01:10.569 --> 00:01:13.810 and perform. Together, we'll show you how these 00:01:13.810 --> 00:01:17.310 three pillars shape every step of training. Thanks 00:01:17.310 --> 00:01:38.280 for being here. Let's get started. Hey, hey, 00:01:38.299 --> 00:01:43.760 hey. It's episode 21. We made it past 20. Oh, 00:01:43.799 --> 00:01:46.760 we did. I'm super excited about that. Chewing 00:01:46.760 --> 00:01:50.640 and destructive behavior. Why dogs destroy things 00:01:50.640 --> 00:01:54.579 and how to stop it. Tonight we are talking about 00:01:54.579 --> 00:01:58.959 the mindless chewing and the destroying of the 00:01:58.959 --> 00:02:03.060 house and the couches. Such a hard phase. It 00:02:03.060 --> 00:02:10.610 is. And it plagues puppies. Primarily, but it's 00:02:10.610 --> 00:02:14.770 not just puppies and they can be any dog and 00:02:14.770 --> 00:02:18.050 it can develop later in life, too. So we're going 00:02:18.050 --> 00:02:24.110 to talk about that tonight. Additionally, a couple 00:02:24.110 --> 00:02:28.990 of news things. I should I should get some like 00:02:28.990 --> 00:02:32.050 transition music and then do like a little like 00:02:32.050 --> 00:02:34.509 newscast of like different statistics as they're 00:02:34.509 --> 00:02:37.849 coming up or the little. I don't know what that 00:02:37.849 --> 00:02:40.650 is, but it sounds cool. Yeah, I know, right? 00:02:40.750 --> 00:02:44.569 It is cool. Sweet. So where I was going with 00:02:44.569 --> 00:02:51.229 this was we are up to 500 downloads, which is 00:02:51.229 --> 00:02:54.650 exciting. That is exciting. I mean, we're not 00:02:54.650 --> 00:02:57.990 holding a candle next to very many people, but 00:02:57.990 --> 00:03:01.610 you know what? We have more than three, and so 00:03:01.610 --> 00:03:05.169 I'm excited about that. It's like my mom and 00:03:05.169 --> 00:03:09.930 my dad. Right. And you. You. Yeah, exactly. Not 00:03:09.930 --> 00:03:12.210 me, you. Right. I don't think you even listen 00:03:12.210 --> 00:03:17.349 to it. I do not. I participate. All right. So 00:03:17.349 --> 00:03:21.909 anyway, super excited. We're up to 500 downloads. 00:03:22.110 --> 00:03:26.729 So I don't have a perfect metric of how many 00:03:26.729 --> 00:03:28.750 people have actually listened or how many times 00:03:28.750 --> 00:03:32.169 they've listened after downloading or how all 00:03:32.169 --> 00:03:35.650 of those metrics play out. That is an encouraging 00:03:35.650 --> 00:03:42.349 number. And additionally to that, we have a really 00:03:42.349 --> 00:03:50.090 cool announcement that I intend to fully release 00:03:50.090 --> 00:03:57.949 a Pawprint Academy app as early as 1st of May 00:03:57.949 --> 00:04:08.680 for normal folks. But we are looking for beta 00:04:08.680 --> 00:04:11.439 testers, basically. Yeah, basically. It's not 00:04:11.439 --> 00:04:15.080 really a beta. I don't know anything about this 00:04:15.080 --> 00:04:17.439 stuff, to be honest. We'll just throw that out 00:04:17.439 --> 00:04:22.139 there. But put in a lot of work into creating 00:04:22.139 --> 00:04:28.220 a kind of an atmosphere or a all -inclusive type 00:04:28.220 --> 00:04:36.360 environment clarity to our clients and to uh 00:04:36.360 --> 00:04:40.160 private lesson uh people clients that are um 00:04:40.160 --> 00:04:43.279 that are local but also being able to reach out 00:04:43.279 --> 00:04:46.439 a little further and help people out that that 00:04:46.439 --> 00:04:50.560 aren't able to be local um through a bunch of 00:04:50.560 --> 00:04:52.879 different avenues and we'll talk more about that 00:04:52.879 --> 00:04:56.459 later but super excited about that um instead 00:04:56.459 --> 00:05:00.240 of going down the um the school or patreon route 00:05:00.240 --> 00:05:03.889 uh we're trying to reach some people in our own, 00:05:03.889 --> 00:05:09.449 uh, pop run Academy way. And the podcast is integrated 00:05:09.449 --> 00:05:13.949 into it. So you can listen to it inside. Um, 00:05:15.110 --> 00:05:20.019 so we'll hit that where more. as the time gets 00:05:20.019 --> 00:05:23.000 closer. But if you are interested in testing 00:05:23.000 --> 00:05:27.240 it out or helping us work through the bugs and 00:05:27.240 --> 00:05:31.060 develop the things, I am very certain that if 00:05:31.060 --> 00:05:32.980 I were to just throw it out there on the app 00:05:32.980 --> 00:05:36.759 store, everything would crash immediately. I 00:05:36.759 --> 00:05:40.579 have no faith in what I've built. So always looking 00:05:40.579 --> 00:05:44.120 for people to help out and always looking for 00:05:44.120 --> 00:05:46.819 constructive criticism. I'll even take regular 00:05:46.819 --> 00:05:50.389 criticism. If there's anything that we're doing 00:05:50.389 --> 00:05:55.569 with the app or in more accuracy, if there's 00:05:55.569 --> 00:05:58.269 anything we're doing on the podcast that we can 00:05:58.269 --> 00:06:00.550 do better or you know some equipment that we 00:06:00.550 --> 00:06:03.850 can use that like fixes a problem or maybe the 00:06:03.850 --> 00:06:05.949 volumes aren't like leveled out or something 00:06:05.949 --> 00:06:10.970 like that, I don't know what I'm doing. So I 00:06:10.970 --> 00:06:14.930 am open to suggestions. So as you have those. 00:06:15.389 --> 00:06:17.810 Please, by all means, I try my hardest. I'm the 00:06:17.810 --> 00:06:21.449 hardest trier. But I don't always nail it. So 00:06:21.449 --> 00:06:24.310 please let me know what I can do better. And 00:06:24.310 --> 00:06:26.670 what we can do better. And we will absolutely 00:06:26.670 --> 00:06:30.610 give it our best shot. Okay. Those are the announcements 00:06:30.610 --> 00:06:33.009 for tonight. That was it. That's it. Now, let's 00:06:33.009 --> 00:06:36.870 get into the core idea for the night. Chewing 00:06:36.870 --> 00:06:43.350 and destructive behaviors are not spite and revenge. 00:06:44.860 --> 00:06:46.839 I'm going to say it one more time. Rule number 00:06:46.839 --> 00:06:53.180 one. When your dog is acting up, it is not because 00:06:53.180 --> 00:06:55.980 they're trying to get revenge on you. Right. 00:06:56.040 --> 00:06:58.720 They are not upset at you. That's not why dogs 00:06:58.720 --> 00:07:03.139 do what they do. That is a human based emotion 00:07:03.139 --> 00:07:08.720 slash behavior. And we put that on the dogs all 00:07:08.720 --> 00:07:12.410 the time. I get calls about it. I have, and I 00:07:12.410 --> 00:07:15.129 don't know why recently, spite has come up multiple 00:07:15.129 --> 00:07:18.449 times. And it's like, well, there's spite peeing 00:07:18.449 --> 00:07:22.449 over there in the corner. What is, can you explain 00:07:22.449 --> 00:07:24.949 that to me? What is the spite peeing? Well, it's 00:07:24.949 --> 00:07:27.250 because they just went out and then they go over 00:07:27.250 --> 00:07:28.610 there and they're like, well, you didn't let 00:07:28.610 --> 00:07:31.310 me out fast enough or you didn't, you put me 00:07:31.310 --> 00:07:33.790 in my kennel or whatever. So I'm going to pee 00:07:33.790 --> 00:07:36.410 over here. So then you have to clean it up. I'm 00:07:36.410 --> 00:07:39.810 going to take quarrel with that because. The 00:07:39.810 --> 00:07:44.189 science says, not Ryan says, but the science 00:07:44.189 --> 00:07:48.250 says that that's not how dogs think. They don't 00:07:48.250 --> 00:07:51.089 think second and third level like that. They 00:07:51.089 --> 00:07:54.430 are opportunistic, yes, but manipulative, no. 00:07:55.850 --> 00:08:00.949 Opportunistic is the door's open. I want to go 00:08:00.949 --> 00:08:03.970 outside. I'm going to go outside. Manipulative 00:08:03.970 --> 00:08:08.149 is I'm going to go outside so that then my. Mom 00:08:08.149 --> 00:08:13.730 has to chase me around and she will, you know, 00:08:13.730 --> 00:08:18.589 be next to me when this dog next door barks at 00:08:18.589 --> 00:08:21.509 me. So now I've got backup. Right. And also it's 00:08:21.509 --> 00:08:24.209 like they build patterns of knowing like how 00:08:24.209 --> 00:08:28.670 to get what they want. So even if we if a dog 00:08:28.670 --> 00:08:32.669 develops a pattern of something that's advantageous 00:08:32.669 --> 00:08:37.149 for them, they've learned that because. It worked 00:08:37.149 --> 00:08:41.549 for them at least one time. And so they're going 00:08:41.549 --> 00:08:43.750 to do it again. It's not that they were like, 00:08:43.870 --> 00:08:48.389 well, I'm going to do this because I know that 00:08:48.389 --> 00:08:52.210 this is going to happen. They just tried it one 00:08:52.210 --> 00:08:55.769 time most of the time. And they were like, it 00:08:55.769 --> 00:08:58.090 worked. I'm going to keep doing that. They just 00:08:58.090 --> 00:09:01.860 tie it to exactly. What happened following that 00:09:01.860 --> 00:09:05.419 behavior? So I've said a lot in recent lessons, 00:09:05.559 --> 00:09:09.059 I use the example that dogs are little scientists 00:09:09.059 --> 00:09:12.419 and they're always running experiments all throughout 00:09:12.419 --> 00:09:15.299 the day. And I feel like that's a really good 00:09:15.299 --> 00:09:20.779 analogy because when you run an experiment, you 00:09:20.779 --> 00:09:25.120 might get a result that even as a human, as a 00:09:25.120 --> 00:09:28.000 scientist, you get a result and you attribute 00:09:28.000 --> 00:09:32.559 that result. to one thing yeah but actually it 00:09:32.559 --> 00:09:34.759 happened because of something else right and 00:09:34.759 --> 00:09:36.259 that's why they tell you in science experiments 00:09:36.259 --> 00:09:38.539 you have to change one thing at a time you can't 00:09:38.539 --> 00:09:40.379 change multiple things because then you don't 00:09:40.379 --> 00:09:44.120 know what developed that result yeah 100 and 00:09:44.120 --> 00:09:48.240 dogs are are no different they're the scientists 00:09:48.240 --> 00:09:51.559 though in this like analogy yeah and so they 00:09:51.559 --> 00:09:56.080 do something and um you know they pee on the 00:09:56.080 --> 00:10:00.399 floor and you freak out but at the same time 00:10:00.399 --> 00:10:03.960 as you freak out their toy fell off of the couch 00:10:03.960 --> 00:10:08.120 and landed next to them and they go oh well that 00:10:08.120 --> 00:10:12.799 was cool right for for just as a crazy example 00:10:12.799 --> 00:10:15.700 right and i i don't have a prepped example in 00:10:15.700 --> 00:10:19.480 my head but whatever it is that they see in that 00:10:19.480 --> 00:10:23.200 environment you might not have seen you might 00:10:23.200 --> 00:10:25.039 not have seen the same thing and so you're like 00:10:25.580 --> 00:10:29.259 Oh, they want me to freak out. They got pleasure 00:10:29.259 --> 00:10:31.700 out of that. That's probably not, probably not 00:10:31.700 --> 00:10:34.039 that. They probably saw something else, but they 00:10:34.039 --> 00:10:39.159 attributed it, attributed that to the reason 00:10:39.159 --> 00:10:45.139 or the result of what they did. Okay. I had to 00:10:45.139 --> 00:10:48.460 get that out though. The spite thing, I hear 00:10:48.460 --> 00:10:52.379 it more often than I would like. and it's just 00:10:52.379 --> 00:10:58.179 not a, uh, an attribute of the canine species. 00:10:58.659 --> 00:11:00.919 Right. And so chewing and destructive behaviors 00:11:00.919 --> 00:11:05.960 like both come from what? Instead, not spite. 00:11:06.139 --> 00:11:08.340 Right. Not spite. Not spite. Not spite. I'm going 00:11:08.340 --> 00:11:10.659 to get there. I'm trying to stay in line here, 00:11:10.779 --> 00:11:14.059 but yeah, it does not come from spite. You're 00:11:14.059 --> 00:11:18.440 right. So the results of unmet needs, right? 00:11:18.559 --> 00:11:23.899 Stress, lack of structure, poor management, or 00:11:24.720 --> 00:11:28.600 uh dogs can destroy things because it relieves 00:11:28.600 --> 00:11:33.940 pressure or it fills the time or it satisfies 00:11:33.940 --> 00:11:37.600 some sort of instinct that they have or you know 00:11:37.600 --> 00:11:39.600 something that they feel like they're supposed 00:11:39.600 --> 00:11:44.320 to be doing or just because it was there and 00:11:44.320 --> 00:11:46.539 they were curious they wanted to they're like 00:11:46.539 --> 00:11:49.679 i don't know what that tastes like yeah oh this 00:11:49.679 --> 00:11:52.240 isn't so bad and they didn't even know that they 00:11:52.240 --> 00:11:54.200 were going to enjoy it but it was there and they're 00:11:54.200 --> 00:11:59.919 like I'm going to try it. Yeah. Anyway, lasting 00:11:59.919 --> 00:12:03.580 solutions, though, come from prevention, structure, 00:12:03.779 --> 00:12:10.159 and providing appropriate outlets. Not just from 00:12:10.159 --> 00:12:13.659 yelling, screaming your head off, and punishing 00:12:13.659 --> 00:12:17.980 and correcting your dog. All right. Why dogs 00:12:17.980 --> 00:12:20.720 chew and destroy. Here's our major point one. 00:12:21.940 --> 00:12:24.279 Destructive behavior always serves a purpose 00:12:24.279 --> 00:12:28.360 for the dog. Always. Dogs don't do anything without 00:12:28.360 --> 00:12:31.659 purpose. Neither do humans. We say all the time, 00:12:31.759 --> 00:12:33.879 oh, I don't know why I did that. Well, but there 00:12:33.879 --> 00:12:37.000 was a reason. There was a reason lest you wouldn't 00:12:37.000 --> 00:12:38.980 have decided that. Well, dogs are no different. 00:12:39.259 --> 00:12:43.200 Everything they do serves a purpose. It's our 00:12:43.200 --> 00:12:46.919 job to figure out what that purpose was, and 00:12:46.919 --> 00:12:52.080 that's how we fix the problem. Bye. doing or 00:12:52.080 --> 00:12:53.779 something that we're going to, you know, talk 00:12:53.779 --> 00:13:00.580 about. So let's, let's first let's first zero 00:13:00.580 --> 00:13:04.899 in on, on, on what we're talking about. Puppies 00:13:04.899 --> 00:13:10.820 can chew to explore. They can chew out of a soothing 00:13:10.820 --> 00:13:15.000 feeling, right? Before their teeth hurt, right? 00:13:15.080 --> 00:13:18.100 We've all heard the, Oh, they're teething. Well, 00:13:18.179 --> 00:13:21.500 what is that? When a puppy's teeth are coming 00:13:21.500 --> 00:13:24.279 in or their mouth is hurting because their teeth 00:13:24.279 --> 00:13:28.740 are moving and coming through the gums and all 00:13:28.740 --> 00:13:30.940 of these things, that can be a painful process. 00:13:31.220 --> 00:13:35.860 And chewing is something that relieves or soothing 00:13:35.860 --> 00:13:39.679 to that dog. And so they find things to chew 00:13:39.679 --> 00:13:43.840 on. And it relieves stress in the animal. So 00:13:43.840 --> 00:13:47.320 that's puppies. Adolescent adult dogs can chew. 00:13:48.000 --> 00:13:52.159 Sometimes for the same reasons, as far as exploring 00:13:52.159 --> 00:13:56.720 or soothing some sort of discomfort, you'll find 00:13:56.720 --> 00:14:02.539 that a dog that is in pain, they've got a torn 00:14:02.539 --> 00:14:07.840 ACL or they've got a bad hip. You'll find that 00:14:07.840 --> 00:14:10.299 those dogs have a higher propensity of chewing 00:14:10.299 --> 00:14:17.940 than a healthy dog because it's soothing. And 00:14:17.940 --> 00:14:20.720 then, of course, you have excessive energy. It's 00:14:20.720 --> 00:14:23.820 like an anxious behavior. It's like tapping a 00:14:23.820 --> 00:14:27.279 pen in a meeting because you're anxious and you've 00:14:27.279 --> 00:14:29.240 got energy and you're nervous and you're just... 00:14:29.240 --> 00:14:34.799 You find something to let that energy out. And 00:14:34.799 --> 00:14:40.519 dogs are no different. All right. Next one. Anxiety 00:14:40.519 --> 00:14:43.039 and frustration commonly show up as destruction 00:14:43.039 --> 00:14:47.399 when dogs are left alone. And so... We talk to 00:14:47.399 --> 00:14:53.019 owners all the time about dogs getting items 00:14:53.019 --> 00:14:57.100 and things like that in a room when the owners 00:14:57.100 --> 00:14:59.799 aren't watching them or aren't able to watch 00:14:59.799 --> 00:15:03.159 them and the dog just has free reign. Well, then 00:15:03.159 --> 00:15:06.419 we come down to, you know, unsupervised freedom. 00:15:06.539 --> 00:15:10.320 It allows the dog just to rehearse over and over, 00:15:10.379 --> 00:15:14.470 like grabbing things and taking them. destroying 00:15:14.470 --> 00:15:17.350 them and just like we talk about dogs with reactivity 00:15:17.350 --> 00:15:19.769 right the more they get to rehearse that behavior 00:15:19.769 --> 00:15:22.929 on the front end before they know anything about 00:15:22.929 --> 00:15:26.029 training the more likely they are to continue 00:15:26.029 --> 00:15:28.750 that behavior and so it becomes a pattern and 00:15:28.750 --> 00:15:33.009 what we try to always stop in any dog that we 00:15:33.009 --> 00:15:35.830 don't want to see is a pattern that they start 00:15:35.830 --> 00:15:38.570 to develop at the very beginning it's way easier 00:15:38.570 --> 00:15:41.169 to stop a behavior that you see the dog going 00:15:41.169 --> 00:15:43.730 oh I'm going to try this. Yeah, I'm going to 00:15:43.730 --> 00:15:46.629 try this. Or this happened, now this happens. 00:15:46.830 --> 00:15:49.470 This happened, now this happens. And it's a behavior. 00:15:49.549 --> 00:15:52.230 And if it's a negative one, if you don't stop 00:15:52.230 --> 00:15:55.389 it early, it's just going to grow. And it's going 00:15:55.389 --> 00:15:59.730 to be way harder in the long run. And not giving 00:15:59.730 --> 00:16:03.750 them those outlets will also just have them make 00:16:03.750 --> 00:16:06.879 poor choices, to be honest with you. We hear 00:16:06.879 --> 00:16:09.580 that all the time too from owners is, well, I 00:16:09.580 --> 00:16:11.799 don't want to teach my dog to chew on things 00:16:11.799 --> 00:16:15.379 or bite things. And so I don't want to give them 00:16:15.379 --> 00:16:19.600 those items. But if we don't give them that outlet, 00:16:19.679 --> 00:16:22.419 especially like bully breeds and things like 00:16:22.419 --> 00:16:26.860 that, where they just are born to use their jaws. 00:16:27.379 --> 00:16:29.940 If we don't give them that outlet in some way, 00:16:30.259 --> 00:16:34.350 they're going to use it negatively. And so when 00:16:34.350 --> 00:16:38.029 we talk about dogs with, you know, a propensity 00:16:38.029 --> 00:16:42.129 to, you know, show aggression or bite things 00:16:42.129 --> 00:16:45.470 and, you know, use their mouths in ways that 00:16:45.470 --> 00:16:47.309 we don't want to, and we go, well, let's play 00:16:47.309 --> 00:16:50.889 tug with them. Inevitably, owners that have never 00:16:50.889 --> 00:16:52.509 played tug with their dog is like, well, I don't 00:16:52.509 --> 00:16:56.509 want to teach them to bite or like to chew things. 00:16:57.490 --> 00:16:59.350 Right, but they're going to do that anyways most 00:16:59.350 --> 00:17:02.330 of the time. Yeah. I just added, that's a really 00:17:02.330 --> 00:17:05.130 good point. I just added that into our, our, 00:17:05.230 --> 00:17:07.230 how we're going to fix this. Right. Cause it's 00:17:07.230 --> 00:17:09.410 like, if you don't, if you don't teach them the 00:17:09.410 --> 00:17:11.250 good things, they'll just teach themselves the 00:17:11.250 --> 00:17:15.269 bad things. Um, and so that is a really big one 00:17:15.269 --> 00:17:17.890 also that owners are, are kind of concerned about. 00:17:17.930 --> 00:17:22.329 Yeah. So if they don't have the outlet to do 00:17:22.329 --> 00:17:25.009 whatever it is that like is in their brain, their 00:17:25.009 --> 00:17:28.490 genetics to do. Then they're going to find other 00:17:28.490 --> 00:17:30.509 things to do. Right. And even if your dog is 00:17:30.509 --> 00:17:33.190 like, I want to run and they don't ever get to 00:17:33.190 --> 00:17:36.849 run. Well, like. Right. This applies universally. 00:17:37.369 --> 00:17:39.470 Yeah. It doesn't matter what. This doesn't even 00:17:39.470 --> 00:17:43.029 just apply to chewing. Yeah. It's all things. 00:17:43.089 --> 00:17:47.190 All of these dogs. This is a common universal 00:17:47.190 --> 00:17:51.230 theme. Dogs were bred for a reason originally. 00:17:51.490 --> 00:17:55.309 Yeah. And that's genetically they've been. they've 00:17:55.309 --> 00:18:02.529 been selected and bred to genetically perform 00:18:02.529 --> 00:18:08.930 certain actions. And then we take them and we 00:18:08.930 --> 00:18:13.029 put them in a living room and we're like, all 00:18:13.029 --> 00:18:14.630 right, just lay there. Sometimes you put them 00:18:14.630 --> 00:18:16.670 in a purse. Some people put them in a purse. 00:18:16.950 --> 00:18:20.569 You're right. You're right. But just in general, 00:18:20.609 --> 00:18:23.569 it's like, I just want a family dog. And I bought, 00:18:23.710 --> 00:18:32.819 it's like, Sorry, this is just a theme that it 00:18:32.819 --> 00:18:36.779 sounds silly when you talk about it, but people 00:18:36.779 --> 00:18:41.039 go and they find dogs and we ask them, we get 00:18:41.039 --> 00:18:44.339 to see this all the time where we ask an owner, 00:18:44.500 --> 00:18:46.519 why did you pick that dog? Yeah, that's my favorite 00:18:46.519 --> 00:18:49.700 question. And they're like, well, because look 00:18:49.700 --> 00:18:52.599 how cute he is. Yeah, that's the number one answer. 00:18:53.240 --> 00:18:55.400 It's like if we were playing Family Feud, it's 00:18:55.400 --> 00:18:57.019 like that would be up there. Is it the right 00:18:57.019 --> 00:19:00.900 reason? No. No. But is it the number one reason 00:19:00.900 --> 00:19:06.000 people give us? Yeah. Yes. Yeah, 100%. But we 00:19:06.000 --> 00:19:09.720 pick the dog because of how they look, but not 00:19:09.720 --> 00:19:13.000 because of like, what was this dog bred to do? 00:19:13.160 --> 00:19:17.799 What is the statistically highest chance of activity 00:19:17.799 --> 00:19:20.720 that this dog is going to feel fulfilled doing? 00:19:21.349 --> 00:19:23.809 Did anyone ask that question? I'll also give 00:19:23.809 --> 00:19:26.029 you a life hack right now. The cuter they are, 00:19:26.130 --> 00:19:28.009 the harder the time you're probably going to 00:19:28.009 --> 00:19:31.150 have. I'm going to just give you the ultimate 00:19:31.150 --> 00:19:34.630 life hack you should follow. The cuter they are, 00:19:34.950 --> 00:19:37.210 you should probably go. If we could go down in 00:19:37.210 --> 00:19:39.710 downloads, we would. People are going to turn 00:19:39.710 --> 00:19:42.470 this off immediately. No. I don't want to know 00:19:42.470 --> 00:19:44.450 anymore. Because I'll work with the super cute 00:19:44.450 --> 00:19:52.390 ones. But it's so true that. We try to adopt 00:19:52.390 --> 00:19:56.809 a mountain lion and then we're like, just sit 00:19:56.809 --> 00:19:59.690 on that place bed. Why won't you just chill? 00:19:59.769 --> 00:20:02.470 And it's like, you got a mountain lion. That's 00:20:02.470 --> 00:20:04.849 like the lady with the deer in her backyard locally 00:20:04.849 --> 00:20:07.329 that was like, I'm going to keep this deer. Right. 00:20:07.390 --> 00:20:12.970 And then it mauled someone. So you can't. Deer? 00:20:13.009 --> 00:20:15.829 Yeah. I shouldn't laugh at that. Right. But you 00:20:15.829 --> 00:20:18.230 can't go based on like cuteness. Gored someone? 00:20:18.549 --> 00:20:21.450 Is that with antlers? I don't know what that's 00:20:21.450 --> 00:20:23.490 called. It mauled someone? It seems like. I don't 00:20:23.490 --> 00:20:25.950 know if that was the right word. Anyways, that's 00:20:25.950 --> 00:20:27.869 not what I was going for there. The goal. It 00:20:27.869 --> 00:20:30.529 hurt someone. I got it. Yeah, it's cute. Right, 00:20:30.529 --> 00:20:33.430 because it was a wild deer. Yeah. Yeah, you can't 00:20:33.430 --> 00:20:36.250 do that. You got to train it, I guess. You got 00:20:36.250 --> 00:20:40.470 to get a deer trainer. that's obviously way off 00:20:40.470 --> 00:20:43.069 the rails there right get back on track if you 00:20:43.069 --> 00:20:47.369 know a deer trainer please please like and subscribe 00:20:47.369 --> 00:20:50.630 i want you to come on the podcast i have right 00:20:50.630 --> 00:20:54.369 i am very curious how how close to dog training 00:20:54.369 --> 00:20:55.930 deer training yeah i'm like is there relation 00:20:55.930 --> 00:20:58.430 there because like i know people talk about like 00:20:59.000 --> 00:21:01.319 human psychology when we will start talking about 00:21:01.319 --> 00:21:03.359 dog training they're like oh my gosh it's the 00:21:03.359 --> 00:21:05.640 same like we've talked to a child psychologist 00:21:05.640 --> 00:21:08.960 and she was like this is blowing my mind and 00:21:08.960 --> 00:21:11.880 a lot of it does relay back to the same exact 00:21:11.880 --> 00:21:15.500 like the the same exact behaviors and things 00:21:15.500 --> 00:21:18.400 and so yeah so if you are a deer trainer or you 00:21:18.400 --> 00:21:21.119 know a deer trainer please send them my way ryan 00:21:21.119 --> 00:21:25.140 ryan at top dog training nc .com i we we can 00:21:25.140 --> 00:21:29.359 set up a uh guest co -host situation virtually 00:21:29.359 --> 00:21:32.480 uh through zoom it'll be great this entire thing 00:21:32.480 --> 00:21:34.279 makes me want to start talking about koala bears 00:21:34.279 --> 00:21:36.259 that i just found out about yesterday but i won't 00:21:36.259 --> 00:21:39.799 that's next week's app episode yeah so on this 00:21:39.799 --> 00:21:44.500 week's episode we are talking about uh dogs that 00:21:44.500 --> 00:21:48.160 chew and so We're back on the train tracks. We're 00:21:48.160 --> 00:21:50.819 back on the train tracks. Let's talk about why 00:21:50.819 --> 00:21:55.420 punishment after the fact usually fails. So most 00:21:55.420 --> 00:21:58.539 owners are going to respond to the chewing too 00:21:58.539 --> 00:22:01.279 late. A lot of times, obviously, no one's going 00:22:01.279 --> 00:22:04.079 to let their dog just chew on the legs of the 00:22:04.079 --> 00:22:06.240 sofa. Right, while they're making eye contact. 00:22:06.359 --> 00:22:08.059 Right, exactly. You're not going to sit there 00:22:08.059 --> 00:22:09.460 and watch them do it and then be like, okay, 00:22:09.579 --> 00:22:12.450 well, this is fine up until a point. That's not 00:22:12.450 --> 00:22:15.869 right. You're like, okay. And it's been 30 seconds. 00:22:15.890 --> 00:22:21.869 No more. Usually you immediately jump in. But 00:22:21.869 --> 00:22:24.470 the problem is that most of the time when we're 00:22:24.470 --> 00:22:26.269 talking about a dog that actually like destroyed 00:22:26.269 --> 00:22:29.950 stuff, you weren't there at all. And so then 00:22:29.950 --> 00:22:33.890 you come back to it later. And this is where 00:22:33.890 --> 00:22:36.390 like the wheels fall off the train. Right. It 00:22:36.390 --> 00:22:37.890 really goes back to like the same thing with 00:22:37.890 --> 00:22:40.269 like potty training, right? You can't scold the 00:22:40.269 --> 00:22:42.630 dog after the fact. They have no idea what you're 00:22:42.630 --> 00:22:47.670 yelling about. Yeah. So when you start yelling 00:22:47.670 --> 00:22:51.529 about something and it's not directed at a behavior 00:22:51.529 --> 00:22:57.930 or better said, interrupting a behavior, you're 00:22:57.930 --> 00:23:01.609 likely going to lack clarity. Yep. And when you 00:23:01.609 --> 00:23:04.349 lack clarity, you're just not teaching the dog 00:23:04.349 --> 00:23:09.970 anything. Dogs do not associate delayed punishment 00:23:09.970 --> 00:23:14.809 with past behavior. It is widely accepted in 00:23:14.809 --> 00:23:17.849 the dog training world that you have somewhere 00:23:17.849 --> 00:23:23.650 in the ballpark of one to two seconds that you 00:23:23.650 --> 00:23:29.309 can properly relate what the dog just did to 00:23:29.309 --> 00:23:34.210 a reward or punishment. And the dog will understand. 00:23:35.420 --> 00:23:41.039 After that window, now it's no longer generally 00:23:41.039 --> 00:23:47.000 accepted. Now it's just a random shoot based 00:23:47.000 --> 00:23:51.140 on your dog's genetics, how old they are, how 00:23:51.140 --> 00:23:54.119 engaged they are to you, whether they're actually 00:23:54.119 --> 00:23:56.299 getting the message or not. Some dogs will pay 00:23:56.299 --> 00:23:58.200 attention for three seconds. Some dogs will pay 00:23:58.200 --> 00:24:00.279 attention for five seconds. Some dogs, they never 00:24:00.279 --> 00:24:03.839 made it past one and a half seconds. And so that's 00:24:03.839 --> 00:24:06.680 why we say. One to two seconds, that's your window 00:24:06.680 --> 00:24:11.660 to properly associate whatever the behavior was, 00:24:11.740 --> 00:24:17.059 good or bad, to a consequence, good or bad. You 00:24:17.059 --> 00:24:20.680 can have good consequences. Consequence for sitting 00:24:20.680 --> 00:24:24.700 when asked is here's a treat. There's your consequence. 00:24:26.140 --> 00:24:29.079 We usually talk about consequences with negative 00:24:29.079 --> 00:24:33.500 connotation, but a consequence is just the result 00:24:33.500 --> 00:24:39.819 of, that behavior so the next part is if we just 00:24:39.819 --> 00:24:44.460 scold the dog after we return home we're talking 00:24:44.460 --> 00:24:49.779 minutes if not hours later right you have no 00:24:49.779 --> 00:24:55.339 hope of truly breaking through that dog's mind 00:24:55.339 --> 00:24:59.160 and and and them being like uh yes the chewing 00:24:59.160 --> 00:25:03.420 was what i wasn't supposed to do If a dog destroys 00:25:03.420 --> 00:25:06.960 a pillow and you come home two hours later and 00:25:06.960 --> 00:25:09.599 then you hold the pillow and you're yelling and 00:25:09.599 --> 00:25:13.039 screaming at the dog, the dog might show like 00:25:13.039 --> 00:25:15.720 that they're remorseful and be like, oh my gosh, 00:25:15.799 --> 00:25:18.279 I'm so sorry. And they do the, you know, they 00:25:18.279 --> 00:25:20.000 get real low to the ground and they flip over 00:25:20.000 --> 00:25:22.099 on their back and all these things. And then 00:25:22.099 --> 00:25:27.680 people go, ah, they learned their lesson. But 00:25:27.680 --> 00:25:37.250 did they? Right. their action of chewing to all 00:25:37.250 --> 00:25:39.809 of that screaming that you just did. Instead, 00:25:40.190 --> 00:25:44.309 they have a hundred different variables and smells 00:25:44.309 --> 00:25:48.890 and the sounds and all of these things that you 00:25:48.890 --> 00:25:51.450 might not even pick up on that they're experiencing 00:25:51.450 --> 00:25:54.990 all at once. And they may pick one of those other 00:25:54.990 --> 00:25:59.369 variables and associate that for the reason why 00:25:59.369 --> 00:26:01.849 you're being hysterical at that moment. Yeah. 00:26:03.150 --> 00:26:07.829 So we can't do that. Removing freedom without 00:26:07.829 --> 00:26:10.829 teaching structure leads to frustration. So if 00:26:10.829 --> 00:26:14.410 we just, we roll back inside, we grab the dog 00:26:14.410 --> 00:26:16.769 when we toss them into their crate and slam the 00:26:16.769 --> 00:26:21.069 door. Ah, now they'll understand that they're 00:26:21.069 --> 00:26:25.410 in the crate because of this. I'm going to tell 00:26:25.410 --> 00:26:28.529 you highly unlikely, highly unlikely that you're 00:26:28.529 --> 00:26:33.890 doing yourself. a service and explaining clearly 00:26:33.890 --> 00:26:37.250 to your dog what they did wrong yeah deterrence 00:26:37.250 --> 00:26:40.710 alone fail without management and training we've 00:26:40.710 --> 00:26:45.089 got to be present for this training to actually 00:26:45.089 --> 00:26:49.990 take place and finally the inconsistency of when 00:26:49.990 --> 00:26:55.089 we respond and how we respond teaches a dog that 00:26:55.089 --> 00:27:00.650 sometimes destruction is allowed Sometimes it's 00:27:00.650 --> 00:27:04.130 not. And this comes into play when you have all 00:27:04.130 --> 00:27:07.329 of the regular human style variables that come 00:27:07.329 --> 00:27:11.950 into play. So you come home and you've had a 00:27:11.950 --> 00:27:14.069 bad day and you're dealing with this and you're 00:27:14.069 --> 00:27:16.170 dealing with that. And then you see the dog chewed 00:27:16.170 --> 00:27:18.769 just a little tiny bit on the, on the couch. 00:27:18.849 --> 00:27:23.670 And you're like, gosh, darn it. But you're just 00:27:23.670 --> 00:27:29.670 too tired to deal with it. Or, um, Maybe you 00:27:29.670 --> 00:27:32.569 didn't even find the accident that the dog has 00:27:32.569 --> 00:27:40.430 until the next day. And it's like, well, what 00:27:40.430 --> 00:27:44.430 did we reinforce there? That the whole situation, 00:27:44.509 --> 00:27:48.670 because you weren't able to do it, at what point 00:27:48.670 --> 00:27:50.990 is it bad and at what point is it acceptable? 00:27:51.670 --> 00:27:54.069 When that is confusing to a dog, you have no 00:27:54.069 --> 00:28:00.309 hope. Yeah, for sure. All right. We're trying 00:28:00.309 --> 00:28:06.789 this new format here, so I'm going to try opening 00:28:06.789 --> 00:28:10.289 it up if anybody has any of these types of experiences, 00:28:10.470 --> 00:28:20.369 both the why and how. Let me say it a better 00:28:20.369 --> 00:28:27.609 way. If anyone listening has an experience that 00:28:27.609 --> 00:28:32.619 they have, with chewing, destructive behavior, 00:28:32.819 --> 00:28:36.259 or just dogs doing something that they're not 00:28:36.259 --> 00:28:39.900 supposed to do that you normally would not appreciate 00:28:39.900 --> 00:28:45.259 in the home while you're gone, stuff like that. 00:28:45.339 --> 00:28:49.680 I'm going to open up the floor here to anyone 00:28:49.680 --> 00:28:52.200 who wants to jump in. I'll just give it just 00:28:52.200 --> 00:28:55.700 a minute here, and then we'll move on to how 00:28:55.700 --> 00:28:58.519 we're going to recommend you. Prevent and replace 00:28:58.519 --> 00:29:04.960 the behaviors. Right, because I have one, but 00:29:04.960 --> 00:29:08.059 mine goes back to how to prevent it. If nobody 00:29:08.059 --> 00:29:10.619 has one, it's totally fine. We can move on to 00:29:10.619 --> 00:29:13.779 yours. Right, well, I won't skip to mine. We'll 00:29:13.779 --> 00:29:15.400 just wait until major point three, because if 00:29:15.400 --> 00:29:17.680 so, I'll just spoil all of major point three. 00:29:17.839 --> 00:29:19.880 You're going to spoil all of them. Yeah, I will. 00:29:20.079 --> 00:29:24.349 All right, so we'll move forward with. This is 00:29:24.349 --> 00:29:26.710 how we're going to recommend that we prevent 00:29:26.710 --> 00:29:30.329 and replace these behaviors. Prevention and structure 00:29:30.329 --> 00:29:33.089 is going to stop the destruction before it starts. 00:29:33.369 --> 00:29:36.809 Obviously, the proactive way to deal with this 00:29:36.809 --> 00:29:41.089 is to start it before it starts. I said start 00:29:41.089 --> 00:29:44.809 it before it starts. Stop it before it starts. 00:29:46.549 --> 00:29:51.680 So I've been waiting to talk about this. You 00:29:51.680 --> 00:29:55.640 know what? Let me hit this one first. We can 00:29:55.640 --> 00:30:00.960 manage the dog's freedom. We can manage the dog's 00:30:00.960 --> 00:30:04.500 experience, their structure, what they're allowed 00:30:04.500 --> 00:30:07.519 to do and what they're not allowed to do so that 00:30:07.519 --> 00:30:10.619 we can provide one, clarity of expectations for 00:30:10.619 --> 00:30:14.759 the dog. Two, we keep them out of trouble. Because 00:30:14.759 --> 00:30:17.720 we prevent them from making bad choices in the 00:30:17.720 --> 00:30:22.240 first place. And three, it reinforces our relationship 00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:25.220 with the dog because it doesn't put us at odds 00:30:25.220 --> 00:30:31.200 with the dog. If you were to have a child and 00:30:31.200 --> 00:30:33.819 they were growing up and growing up, at what 00:30:33.819 --> 00:30:36.940 age can you leave this child at home? There are 00:30:36.940 --> 00:30:40.119 some states in the United States that have specific 00:30:40.119 --> 00:30:44.799 laws that it's like this old. That's not even 00:30:44.799 --> 00:30:46.880 what I'm talking about. I'm just talking about 00:30:46.880 --> 00:30:49.599 from a parent's point of view. We're in the 90s. 00:30:49.599 --> 00:30:52.220 Right, in the 90s. There was also an age where 00:30:52.220 --> 00:30:54.119 you could leave kids at home. Yeah, but it didn't 00:30:54.119 --> 00:30:58.940 matter. The concept is simply that if I was to 00:30:58.940 --> 00:31:03.920 ask you a pointed question, what age can the 00:31:03.920 --> 00:31:06.900 child stay at home? There's a lot of variables 00:31:06.900 --> 00:31:09.420 that go into that. But one of the most major 00:31:09.420 --> 00:31:15.789 variables, if it's your child, do you trust them 00:31:15.789 --> 00:31:18.430 to make good decisions when you're not there? 00:31:19.609 --> 00:31:24.829 And having a dog stay out at home is no different. 00:31:25.430 --> 00:31:29.430 If they lack the maturity to make good choices 00:31:29.430 --> 00:31:32.490 when you are not physically present and there 00:31:32.490 --> 00:31:37.890 and watching them, no amount of training makes 00:31:37.890 --> 00:31:41.720 them not. Or it makes them more mature or less 00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:45.519 mature. Time and that training helps them to 00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:47.380 mature. But you don't just take a dog and it's 00:31:47.380 --> 00:31:48.940 like, well, after they're six months old, then 00:31:48.940 --> 00:31:51.619 they can stay out. That's not going to make them 00:31:51.619 --> 00:31:56.859 successful. Showing them, guiding them, and using 00:31:56.859 --> 00:32:06.259 training in a systematic way leads the dog into 00:32:06.259 --> 00:32:09.769 making more appropriate decisions. But while 00:32:09.769 --> 00:32:13.269 that process is going on, you got to prevent 00:32:13.269 --> 00:32:17.730 the problems from starting. And that means put 00:32:17.730 --> 00:32:23.170 your dog in a crate. Put your dog on place. Tether 00:32:23.170 --> 00:32:27.170 your dog. Give your dog something to do. Put 00:32:27.170 --> 00:32:29.869 your dog outside in a fenced -in yard. Bring 00:32:29.869 --> 00:32:32.529 your dog back in. Don't leave them anywhere for 00:32:32.529 --> 00:32:35.650 an extended period of time. At the point where 00:32:35.650 --> 00:32:39.410 you can't physically watch them, It doesn't matter 00:32:39.410 --> 00:32:42.910 if it's 30 seconds, five minutes, or two hours. 00:32:43.109 --> 00:32:48.009 If they don't possess the maturity to make appropriate 00:32:48.009 --> 00:32:53.069 decisions, then they have to go into one of these 00:32:53.069 --> 00:32:57.130 management strategies. Yeah, I think pet owners 00:32:57.130 --> 00:33:01.750 a lot of times now, it's like they love the dog 00:33:01.750 --> 00:33:08.009 to the equivalent of a human child. But they 00:33:08.009 --> 00:33:12.190 are not willing or feel like they are able to 00:33:12.190 --> 00:33:21.170 hold the dog accountable. And in a. I can't. 00:33:21.210 --> 00:33:24.609 I lost the word I was thinking of in a. I lose 00:33:24.609 --> 00:33:26.849 words all the time. I know mine's on the floor 00:33:26.849 --> 00:33:31.009 now and I never lose my words usually in a. Gosh, 00:33:31.210 --> 00:33:33.089 it was right there still. I don't know. In a 00:33:33.089 --> 00:33:39.660 way that like you. Guide your children to yes 00:33:39.660 --> 00:33:43.259 or no right and wrong I think a lot of it like 00:33:43.259 --> 00:33:45.460 it comes down to like we love our dogs super 00:33:45.460 --> 00:33:48.960 hard but we don't see like structure and Like 00:33:48.960 --> 00:33:51.660 we see them as control rather than leadership 00:33:51.660 --> 00:33:55.500 Yeah I don't know if that's what you're going 00:33:55.500 --> 00:33:59.430 for but kind of One of the biggest things, and 00:33:59.430 --> 00:34:02.130 we're not going to go all the way down the road 00:34:02.130 --> 00:34:04.410 of crate training. We did a whole episode on 00:34:04.410 --> 00:34:07.890 that. But the value of putting your dog in selective 00:34:07.890 --> 00:34:13.949 temporary confinement will always resort back 00:34:13.949 --> 00:34:19.349 to this concept of structure. Discipline was 00:34:19.349 --> 00:34:21.510 the word I was looking for. We're willing to 00:34:21.510 --> 00:34:24.889 love our dogs to the extent of human affection. 00:34:26.170 --> 00:34:28.289 I feel like when we look at a dog, we have a 00:34:28.289 --> 00:34:31.230 hard time disciplining them to the same extent. 00:34:31.469 --> 00:34:33.710 Because we selected the dog because they were 00:34:33.710 --> 00:34:35.969 so cute. Because they were cute and man. It's 00:34:35.969 --> 00:34:38.369 like, oh. The number one wine. You're so soft. 00:34:38.929 --> 00:34:45.750 Soft and cuddly. So crates, pens, leashes, and 00:34:45.750 --> 00:34:50.730 place beds all come into play for selective confinement. 00:34:52.010 --> 00:34:55.739 If, yeah. I'm not going to circle back to that. 00:34:55.820 --> 00:34:58.019 I'll circle back to one thing. It's like if your 00:34:58.019 --> 00:35:03.000 dog has one ounce of training, been through one 00:35:03.000 --> 00:35:07.260 session, and your dog is not acting appropriately 00:35:07.260 --> 00:35:11.619 in the home, strap a leash on for three days 00:35:11.619 --> 00:35:14.460 in a row and tell me that your dog doesn't act 00:35:14.460 --> 00:35:18.519 totally different. Yeah. Right, because you are 00:35:18.519 --> 00:35:21.159 holding them accountable. Yeah, and they understand 00:35:21.159 --> 00:35:25.849 that difference. Yeah, that was it. Okay. Go 00:35:25.849 --> 00:35:30.969 ahead. The next thing, so that what we are talking 00:35:30.969 --> 00:35:33.769 about is management strategies. It's like when 00:35:33.769 --> 00:35:37.429 your dog barks at the front window and that's 00:35:37.429 --> 00:35:41.309 the only place where they bark in the home, why 00:35:41.309 --> 00:35:43.389 do you let them keep getting in the window? Right, 00:35:43.449 --> 00:35:46.329 they've lost that privilege. Right. Prevent them 00:35:46.329 --> 00:35:55.070 from getting in the window. You will never see 00:35:55.070 --> 00:35:57.869 with your eyes the level of motivation that a 00:35:57.869 --> 00:36:01.590 dog has to chew on the sofa. You'll never pick 00:36:01.590 --> 00:36:07.429 up on that. But you leaving the dog out next 00:36:07.429 --> 00:36:12.630 to the sofa is like, you know, it's just a huge 00:36:12.630 --> 00:36:14.550 amount of temptation if you've already identified 00:36:14.550 --> 00:36:17.860 that they really enjoy chewing on the sofa. But 00:36:17.860 --> 00:36:20.579 people are like, well, I trained my dog not to. 00:36:20.719 --> 00:36:24.219 And now I'm going to just leave the house, cross 00:36:24.219 --> 00:36:27.820 my fingers, and hope. And that's insane. And 00:36:27.820 --> 00:36:30.539 I'm not the only dog trainer that says that. 00:36:30.679 --> 00:36:33.519 There's some really high -level, high -profile 00:36:33.519 --> 00:36:35.500 dog trainers that literally call that out. It's 00:36:35.500 --> 00:36:39.800 like expecting the dog to just make good decisions 00:36:39.800 --> 00:36:48.699 because you told them to is crazy. don't put 00:36:48.699 --> 00:36:52.719 your dog in a position where they can fail and 00:36:52.719 --> 00:36:56.139 now you're mad at them. And now they're in a 00:36:56.139 --> 00:36:57.860 position where they're like, well, why are you 00:36:57.860 --> 00:37:00.679 mad at me? And now you've, you've like created 00:37:00.679 --> 00:37:03.579 this little rift in your relationship. Why would 00:37:03.579 --> 00:37:05.639 you, why would you do that? Just, just put them 00:37:05.639 --> 00:37:09.719 in a crate. Yeah. But that takes time and effort 00:37:09.719 --> 00:37:13.019 and, and other decisions like, well, I don't 00:37:13.019 --> 00:37:16.239 want to put them in jail. Why does it have to 00:37:16.239 --> 00:37:21.650 be jail? Yeah. So you can listen to the Cray 00:37:21.650 --> 00:37:25.030 episode. We talk a lot more about that if that's 00:37:25.030 --> 00:37:29.929 a big hang up. But selective confinement or just 00:37:29.929 --> 00:37:34.050 general environmental management is the number 00:37:34.050 --> 00:37:37.170 one way that we prevent bad choices in the house. 00:37:37.349 --> 00:37:44.130 Yep. Next one. Rule out a veterinarian issue. 00:37:44.969 --> 00:37:49.599 Right. A health issue. There are some dogs that 00:37:49.599 --> 00:37:56.159 they have a bad tooth. They have bleeding gums. 00:37:56.260 --> 00:38:01.820 They have pica. They have a health issue that 00:38:01.820 --> 00:38:05.619 increases their desire to chew on something to 00:38:05.619 --> 00:38:10.000 soothe them. Or, like we said before, they have 00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:13.400 a bad hip. They have a splinter in their paw. 00:38:13.960 --> 00:38:17.860 And they start licking that paw, trying to like 00:38:17.860 --> 00:38:21.780 fix their paw. And then they end up licking the 00:38:21.780 --> 00:38:24.599 carpet. And as they're licking the carpet, they 00:38:24.599 --> 00:38:26.940 don't really realize it. And then they are like 00:38:26.940 --> 00:38:28.780 kind of picking at it. And they're like, oh, 00:38:28.820 --> 00:38:32.900 well, that's kind of fun. And then they chew 00:38:32.900 --> 00:38:34.980 up your carpet. And you're like, what the heck? 00:38:35.780 --> 00:38:39.500 Well, it started very innocently while they were 00:38:39.500 --> 00:38:43.639 trying to, you know. self clean themselves yeah 00:38:43.639 --> 00:38:46.659 anyway and then you can figuring out what is 00:38:46.659 --> 00:38:50.260 going on is really important and sometimes all 00:38:50.260 --> 00:38:53.260 we're saying is that sometimes there can be a 00:38:53.260 --> 00:38:57.239 health issue that is involved yep and then also 00:38:57.239 --> 00:39:00.300 like giving them something to chew on that they 00:39:00.300 --> 00:39:04.139 are allowed to chew on providing appropriate 00:39:04.139 --> 00:39:09.619 chewing items correct toys bones yep things like 00:39:09.619 --> 00:39:14.989 that go ahead And then rotating them so that 00:39:14.989 --> 00:39:17.050 your dog doesn't get bored because the concept 00:39:17.050 --> 00:39:19.949 of a dog not getting bored with a toy or a chew 00:39:19.949 --> 00:39:23.630 item is super common, right? If you have a basket 00:39:23.630 --> 00:39:25.969 of toys and you dump them all over the living 00:39:25.969 --> 00:39:28.510 room floor, within a couple of days, the dog 00:39:28.510 --> 00:39:30.190 is going to be tired of all of those toys and 00:39:30.190 --> 00:39:33.510 he's not going to care. Yeah. And it's as simple 00:39:33.510 --> 00:39:35.730 as just getting bored with something. So keeping 00:39:35.730 --> 00:39:40.710 items. And rotating them so that the dog has 00:39:40.710 --> 00:39:43.750 access to one at a time is an important concept 00:39:43.750 --> 00:39:48.829 as well. Yep. Next one is increase their exercise. 00:39:49.710 --> 00:39:52.389 Increase their amount of structured exercise 00:39:52.389 --> 00:39:56.789 and mental exhaustion. The more that you wear 00:39:56.789 --> 00:39:59.650 your dog down mentally, the less they will find. 00:39:59.769 --> 00:40:01.429 Because we named like three or four different 00:40:01.429 --> 00:40:06.949 reasons why a dog chews. All, not every single 00:40:06.949 --> 00:40:10.389 one, but the major three, they're all related 00:40:10.389 --> 00:40:15.010 to a dog that is anxious with pent up energy 00:40:15.010 --> 00:40:20.349 and no outlet. Yeah. A mentally stimulated dog 00:40:20.349 --> 00:40:25.550 solves all of those. Yeah. So food puzzles and 00:40:25.550 --> 00:40:37.139 scent games. And food scavenger hunts. And all 00:40:37.139 --> 00:40:39.019 sorts of things. My new favorite is blowing bubbles 00:40:39.019 --> 00:40:42.320 for your dog. And blowing bubbles. Some dogs 00:40:42.320 --> 00:40:44.280 really love it. Right. And it is stimulating. 00:40:44.539 --> 00:40:46.079 Like they have to jump. They have to catch them. 00:40:46.179 --> 00:40:49.320 They have to do different things. Um, so it is 00:40:49.320 --> 00:40:51.760 a stimulating game for dogs. I know it seems 00:40:51.760 --> 00:40:54.420 silly, but non -toxic bubbles. Yeah. Non -toxic. 00:40:54.420 --> 00:40:57.079 Obviously. I think I don't think they make toxic 00:40:57.079 --> 00:40:58.940 bubbles. It's like kids eating crayons. It's 00:40:58.940 --> 00:41:00.679 like, we're all fine. We're just going to, we 00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:02.500 can eat the big selling point. These are non 00:41:02.500 --> 00:41:05.280 -toxic. Yeah. Um, whatever you need to buy to 00:41:05.280 --> 00:41:07.659 make you obviously don't put your dog in danger. 00:41:07.739 --> 00:41:09.679 I'm sure they make dog specific bubbles. They 00:41:09.679 --> 00:41:13.980 probably do. I'm sure. Um, if not. So finding 00:41:13.980 --> 00:41:17.159 activities for your dog to do to wear them down 00:41:17.159 --> 00:41:21.099 both mentally and physically will put you statistically 00:41:21.099 --> 00:41:26.079 in a much higher likelihood of coming home to 00:41:26.079 --> 00:41:31.179 a house that isn't one piece than not. And on 00:41:31.179 --> 00:41:33.320 this, I've been waiting to talk about this, but 00:41:33.320 --> 00:41:37.579 this concept of chewing, biting, tugging toys 00:41:37.579 --> 00:41:43.269 and the fact that some people. Avoid them completely 00:41:43.269 --> 00:41:45.329 because they're worried that it will increase 00:41:45.329 --> 00:41:51.550 the dog's drive to bite and nip and chew on other 00:41:51.550 --> 00:41:56.469 things. But I haven't really found that in my 00:41:56.469 --> 00:41:59.610 experience. And my understanding of the science 00:41:59.610 --> 00:42:05.389 behind it is that a dog, all dogs are like this 00:42:05.389 --> 00:42:09.389 body that's built around this mouth. It's their 00:42:09.389 --> 00:42:12.579 number one. way that they interact with the world 00:42:12.579 --> 00:42:15.079 it's their number one way that they defend themselves 00:42:15.079 --> 00:42:17.679 it's their number one tool that they use for 00:42:17.679 --> 00:42:22.099 everything so the concept that well i'm just 00:42:22.099 --> 00:42:24.599 not going to teach him how to use it so that 00:42:24.599 --> 00:42:28.659 then he doesn't use it is is null and void yeah 00:42:28.659 --> 00:42:34.579 instead show them and teach them and pattern 00:42:34.579 --> 00:42:39.400 them on what they should use it for That's where 00:42:39.400 --> 00:42:41.179 the tugging and chewing and biting toys come 00:42:41.179 --> 00:42:47.519 into play by teaching my dog what to bite. And 00:42:47.519 --> 00:42:50.380 inevitably, sometimes he gets real close to the 00:42:50.380 --> 00:42:53.900 hands. That's an opportunity for me to be like, 00:42:54.000 --> 00:42:59.980 whoa, no, don't do that. Do this. And I can move 00:42:59.980 --> 00:43:03.539 the toy and give him room to bite that again. 00:43:03.880 --> 00:43:06.440 And it feels very different to his mouth when 00:43:06.440 --> 00:43:10.519 he bites my hand or he bites the toy. But when 00:43:10.519 --> 00:43:12.539 it's in play and it's quick and it's all these 00:43:12.539 --> 00:43:15.900 things, right? We pattern it and it's not the 00:43:15.900 --> 00:43:22.860 same as a dog just like biting you. Where I was 00:43:22.860 --> 00:43:24.780 going with that though is that if you never teach 00:43:24.780 --> 00:43:28.380 your dog what to bite, then they may just make 00:43:28.380 --> 00:43:31.179 their own choice of what to bite. If you never 00:43:31.179 --> 00:43:34.409 teach your dog what to chew, They're probably 00:43:34.409 --> 00:43:36.750 just going to make their own choice about what 00:43:36.750 --> 00:43:40.570 to chew. I will always encourage all clients 00:43:40.570 --> 00:43:44.489 and dog owners out there to teach their dog what 00:43:44.489 --> 00:43:48.269 to do by showing them and by encouraging them. 00:43:48.329 --> 00:43:50.530 Let them run the experiment and then show them 00:43:50.530 --> 00:43:52.289 that they did a good job by choosing the right 00:43:52.289 --> 00:43:57.210 thing. Yeah. All right. Also, side note, they 00:43:57.210 --> 00:43:59.130 do make dog bubbles. They're peanut butter and 00:43:59.130 --> 00:44:03.920 bacon flavor. That is. It's not an idea that 00:44:03.920 --> 00:44:05.539 isn't real. I learned something new today. I 00:44:05.539 --> 00:44:07.260 did not know that they had peanut butter flavored 00:44:07.260 --> 00:44:09.039 dog bubbles. Me too. I was like, there's for 00:44:09.039 --> 00:44:11.820 sure a way we could market peanut or dog bubbles 00:44:11.820 --> 00:44:15.179 if there aren't any, but there are dog bubbles. 00:44:15.420 --> 00:44:18.639 Yeah. Somebody's thought of everything. That's 00:44:18.639 --> 00:44:22.539 crazy. I know, I'm telling you. Do you have something 00:44:22.539 --> 00:44:26.840 to add on the chewing and the opportunistic chewing? 00:44:27.619 --> 00:44:33.280 No, I don't think so. Okay. We want to teach 00:44:33.280 --> 00:44:37.960 calm independence rather than constant stimulation. 00:44:38.099 --> 00:44:41.639 That's the next one. Sometimes you need to, this 00:44:41.639 --> 00:44:43.500 is where place comes into play. And we've done 00:44:43.500 --> 00:44:46.800 a whole podcast on this as well. But place is 00:44:46.800 --> 00:44:49.440 an opportunity to tell a dog, no, no, no. I want 00:44:49.440 --> 00:44:53.039 you to go and lay right here or just stand here. 00:44:53.119 --> 00:44:56.900 Just be in this little vicinity and just turn 00:44:56.900 --> 00:45:02.199 off. If you don't, this is like the biting and 00:45:02.199 --> 00:45:08.519 chewing and whatever toys. If you don't teach 00:45:08.519 --> 00:45:12.820 your dog to do nothing, when are they going to 00:45:12.820 --> 00:45:18.260 learn to do nothing? That's a learned skill of 00:45:18.260 --> 00:45:22.739 chilling and turning off. You have to pattern 00:45:22.739 --> 00:45:27.289 that. And then. We want to reward engagement 00:45:27.289 --> 00:45:31.070 with the approved items. And we want to use it 00:45:31.070 --> 00:45:35.030 consistently across the board. So when a dog 00:45:35.030 --> 00:45:38.030 does the right thing, when a dog does a good 00:45:38.030 --> 00:45:41.849 thing, give them those items that you can chew 00:45:41.849 --> 00:45:47.309 and tear up or bite or whatever it is. Because 00:45:47.309 --> 00:45:52.010 we have to meet the dog's genetic disposition 00:45:52.010 --> 00:45:55.489 one way or another. Otherwise, the dog will find 00:45:55.489 --> 00:45:57.789 things to meet that. Yeah, that's never what 00:45:57.789 --> 00:46:02.969 we want. And so what also goes into this is that 00:46:02.969 --> 00:46:06.050 you can't just replace one thing with another 00:46:06.050 --> 00:46:10.730 in the same proximity either. We want to take, 00:46:10.889 --> 00:46:14.250 so if we're using chews or treats or something 00:46:14.250 --> 00:46:17.409 like that, we don't want to pattern these things 00:46:17.409 --> 00:46:21.539 right next to each other. So where this comes 00:46:21.539 --> 00:46:24.280 into play, if your dog is chewing on the sofa, 00:46:24.500 --> 00:46:29.300 on the leg of the sofa, you're not going to take 00:46:29.300 --> 00:46:33.940 your chew toy and put it right next to it so 00:46:33.940 --> 00:46:37.679 that then the dog relates that chewing behavior 00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:42.820 potentially to the sofa still. We want to remove 00:46:42.820 --> 00:46:47.010 that and put it in a different location. So by 00:46:47.010 --> 00:46:50.130 showing the dog with very clear, we want night 00:46:50.130 --> 00:46:53.789 and day clear communication with our dogs. Instead, 00:46:54.030 --> 00:46:56.690 I'm going to put that chew toy in their crate. 00:46:57.030 --> 00:46:59.530 I'm going to put that chew toy on their place 00:46:59.530 --> 00:47:02.710 bed. I'm going to put that chew toy in the places 00:47:02.710 --> 00:47:05.050 where I want the dog to hang out, not in the 00:47:05.050 --> 00:47:08.889 places where I want them to not go, if that makes 00:47:08.889 --> 00:47:11.710 sense. So that's the last little tip I've got. 00:47:12.469 --> 00:47:15.179 All right. So at this point, I'll open it up 00:47:15.179 --> 00:47:21.760 for questions. And there we go. Got them on here. 00:47:25.679 --> 00:47:31.260 Real quick. I was not prepared. I was like, where's 00:47:31.260 --> 00:47:34.760 our Jeopardy? Right, I know. Where is it? Jeopardy 00:47:34.760 --> 00:47:36.659 music or elevator? No, it's Jeopardy, right? 00:47:37.900 --> 00:47:39.440 Right. I'll just start doing it. Here we go. 00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:43.469 I found it. Thank goodness, because I didn't 00:47:43.469 --> 00:47:45.230 know how long I could do that for. All right. 00:47:45.489 --> 00:47:48.469 Probably not long. My tone was off. If anybody 00:47:48.469 --> 00:47:51.510 has a question, now is the time to ask. Then 00:47:51.510 --> 00:47:56.489 we will open it up for listener projects. I've 00:47:56.489 --> 00:47:58.829 got a question. Got a question. I'm turning it 00:47:58.829 --> 00:48:05.510 off. All right. Go ahead. So if you are giving 00:48:05.510 --> 00:48:07.969 your dog something that you want them to do on 00:48:07.969 --> 00:48:11.659 the place bed. And they keep taking it away and 00:48:11.659 --> 00:48:19.280 off of the place bed. What do you do? I quietly 00:48:19.280 --> 00:48:25.460 without any without any other real precursors 00:48:25.460 --> 00:48:28.500 or any other variables. I just quietly remove 00:48:28.500 --> 00:48:30.980 it from the dog and put it back on the place 00:48:30.980 --> 00:48:33.820 bed. Yeah. Usually it only takes about three 00:48:33.820 --> 00:48:38.199 times or so. Really like. average i'd say for 00:48:38.199 --> 00:48:40.320 the dog to be like well they just keep putting 00:48:40.320 --> 00:48:42.179 it back over here so i'm just gonna stay over 00:48:42.179 --> 00:48:44.320 here right because you'll increase frustration 00:48:44.320 --> 00:48:47.079 yeah with that and so i don't i don't correct 00:48:47.079 --> 00:48:50.579 it i don't say no i don't uh anything other than 00:48:50.579 --> 00:48:55.059 remove it from the dog um in a way that doesn't 00:48:55.059 --> 00:48:58.000 create a game that's the other thing you can't 00:48:58.000 --> 00:49:01.039 like rip it away and then run across the room 00:49:01.039 --> 00:49:06.380 with it um That can be useful in some times where 00:49:06.380 --> 00:49:08.719 we get the dog to chase us instead of us chasing 00:49:08.719 --> 00:49:14.280 the dog. But either way, that can create a situation 00:49:14.280 --> 00:49:16.420 where the dog then repeats the behavior because 00:49:16.420 --> 00:49:18.699 they know you're going to engage to them. So 00:49:18.699 --> 00:49:22.219 instead, just be real boring about it, but take 00:49:22.219 --> 00:49:25.000 that thing away, put it back on the place bed, 00:49:25.179 --> 00:49:28.039 and then walk away and observe from a distance. 00:49:28.480 --> 00:49:31.019 Also, if the dog isn't really experienced in 00:49:31.019 --> 00:49:34.780 extended place work, Using like a tether method 00:49:34.780 --> 00:49:40.300 for place can also work in some instances like 00:49:40.300 --> 00:49:42.639 for puppies and things like that where they haven't 00:49:42.639 --> 00:49:47.500 stayed on place for a long time. Thank you. Yeah. 00:49:47.559 --> 00:49:53.980 Yeah. No problem. All right. We will move on 00:49:53.980 --> 00:49:59.360 very quickly here to listener projects. All right. 00:49:59.380 --> 00:50:03.329 Listener project number one. Chew zone setup. 00:50:05.510 --> 00:50:09.150 Select a couple of approved chew items, whatever 00:50:09.150 --> 00:50:16.929 you're okay with. And then remove access to the 00:50:16.929 --> 00:50:20.769 household items you're not okay with. And put 00:50:20.769 --> 00:50:24.530 the dog in an area through selective confinement. 00:50:24.550 --> 00:50:29.590 Use a gate or block off an area or something 00:50:29.590 --> 00:50:32.949 like that. And show the dog that, hey, these 00:50:32.949 --> 00:50:38.389 items can be chewed on in this area, but not 00:50:38.389 --> 00:50:42.510 in that other area. Redirect calmly to the approved 00:50:42.510 --> 00:50:48.050 chews and then praise the correct choices. Number 00:50:48.050 --> 00:50:54.170 two, pre -departure routine. So one of the things 00:50:54.170 --> 00:50:57.730 that we hear a lot is that, well, when I'm getting 00:50:57.730 --> 00:51:01.019 ready to go. That's when my dog has a complete 00:51:01.019 --> 00:51:04.480 change in behavior. Right. Because they're running 00:51:04.480 --> 00:51:06.800 little experiments and you've shown them that 00:51:06.800 --> 00:51:11.260 you have certain things that you do reliably 00:51:11.260 --> 00:51:16.199 before you walk out that door. So what you're 00:51:16.199 --> 00:51:18.280 going to do for this project is you're going 00:51:18.280 --> 00:51:21.900 to add structured exercise or training before 00:51:21.900 --> 00:51:24.719 you leave. So you're going to back up your schedule 00:51:24.719 --> 00:51:28.239 just a little bit so that you can get. 10 or 00:51:28.239 --> 00:51:31.699 15 minutes, even if it's just five minutes, that's 00:51:31.699 --> 00:51:35.940 fine. But try to get that a couple of minutes 00:51:35.940 --> 00:51:41.079 in where you can try, you can either wear the 00:51:41.079 --> 00:51:45.400 dog out physically or you can wear the dog out 00:51:45.400 --> 00:51:51.239 at least mentally. And as you do that, then you 00:51:51.239 --> 00:51:56.380 provide a safe chew. at the end when you're about 00:51:56.380 --> 00:51:59.380 to leave and you walk out the door. And what 00:51:59.380 --> 00:52:02.099 you will find is that chew will be a lot more 00:52:02.099 --> 00:52:05.880 satiating than the other exciting things that 00:52:05.880 --> 00:52:08.719 the dog is finding that you would rather they 00:52:08.719 --> 00:52:15.679 leave alone. That is also... that goes with you 00:52:15.679 --> 00:52:18.000 have to condition them towards that if you get 00:52:18.000 --> 00:52:20.260 a brand new chew your dog has never chewed on 00:52:20.260 --> 00:52:22.280 anything before you get a brand new thing right 00:52:22.280 --> 00:52:23.980 out of the package and you just give it to them 00:52:23.980 --> 00:52:26.780 you walk off it's highly likely they they're 00:52:26.780 --> 00:52:29.940 it's going to be boring right and that's why 00:52:29.940 --> 00:52:33.059 they they make chew toys and and different toys 00:52:33.059 --> 00:52:36.820 that like are scented right to to draw the dog's 00:52:36.820 --> 00:52:41.619 attention to it um but it may take a little bit 00:52:41.619 --> 00:52:47.449 of play This project is recommending you use 00:52:47.449 --> 00:52:51.210 a chew that the dog already finds value in. Don't 00:52:51.210 --> 00:52:56.309 just use a brand new thing. By then combining 00:52:56.309 --> 00:53:00.849 those two projects and having the dog in an area 00:53:00.849 --> 00:53:04.889 where there are chew safe items, you're going 00:53:04.889 --> 00:53:07.650 to statistically lower the chance significantly 00:53:07.650 --> 00:53:09.730 that they're going to make bad decisions. Oh 00:53:09.730 --> 00:53:14.170 yeah, for sure. And then keep your departure 00:53:14.170 --> 00:53:16.769 calm. That's the last step. Keep it calm. Keep 00:53:16.769 --> 00:53:20.269 it predictable. You decide when to leave. This 00:53:20.269 --> 00:53:22.670 is a leadership skill. We're not looking to the 00:53:22.670 --> 00:53:27.070 dog. Okay, I'm out of here. Goodbye. No, you 00:53:27.070 --> 00:53:30.269 just get your stuff. You walk out the door. You've 00:53:30.269 --> 00:53:32.710 already said your goodbyes. You've already done 00:53:32.710 --> 00:53:35.050 all your other things. At the point where you're 00:53:35.050 --> 00:53:38.130 ready to leave, you leave. That's going to reduce 00:53:38.130 --> 00:53:41.079 your dog's anxiety to the whole concept. All 00:53:41.079 --> 00:53:45.139 right. That is all I've got for today. So we 00:53:45.139 --> 00:53:51.340 will close it out with, there's our music. Thank 00:53:51.340 --> 00:53:56.920 you for joining us today, tonight for Destructive 00:53:56.920 --> 00:54:01.909 Chewing. Destructive. Episode 21. Super excited 00:54:01.909 --> 00:54:05.730 to be into the 20s on episodes. We'll keep bringing 00:54:05.730 --> 00:54:08.590 them to you each week. If you are listening to 00:54:08.590 --> 00:54:11.630 this and you've got a comment, concern, something 00:54:11.630 --> 00:54:14.769 that you think we can do better, please reach 00:54:14.769 --> 00:54:18.670 out. Leave me a comment on whatever the app is 00:54:18.670 --> 00:54:21.769 or the platform that you're listening to. Or 00:54:21.769 --> 00:54:29.320 email me at ryan at topdogtrainingnc .com. All 00:54:29.320 --> 00:54:32.079 right. Thanks guys. Have a good night. Good night.