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Welcome to Pawprint Academy, your blueprint to

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raising better dogs. My name is Ryan, and I'll

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and perform. Together, we'll show you how these

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three pillars shape every step of training. Thanks

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for being here. Let's get started. All right.

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Episode 20. We made it to 20. Right. Excessive

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barking. Why dogs bark and how to reduce it without

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chaos. Maybe. Yeah, maybe. Barking. Barking is

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hard. Barking is awful. Yeah, it's a rough one.

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Because it's real quick, right off the bat. People

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usually think that their dog is saying something.

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Yeah. It's like, right, that's them. That's how

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they talk. And it kind of is, but it kind of

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isn't. So dogs can use barking to alert, but

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it's more theme -based. A dog will bark to alert

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or to protect or to claim something or to chase

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something away. Rarely is it, it's not like when

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we speak. Now granted, humans say and use a thousand

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words to describe one singular concept. But when

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we're talking, we're enunciating and using words,

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we're communicating a concept. The barking, I

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would say, is more like generalized theme based.

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Yeah. In the way that dogs communicate. Okay.

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So tonight we are welcome for everybody that

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is tuned in. Thank you for meeting us at this

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different time than we normally do. Usually we

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do them on Wednesdays and tonight we're recording

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on a Tuesday. Right. So I appreciate the flexibility.

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As we get started tonight, we are trying to introduce

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a little different, I guess, flow through the

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podcast or through the group call. And so what

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that looks like is after usually we have this

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concept broken into like three major like portions

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of my notes. And so after each one, we're going

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to try to elicit support from the audience. Input.

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Input. Yeah. Like, hey, what do you guys think?

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What have you experienced? And so instead of

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just waiting until the end and then being like,

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who has questions? And maybe at that point, maybe

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you do, maybe you don't. Maybe you fell asleep.

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I don't know. Yeah, maybe you had to disconnect

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and go to bed. Yeah. We're going to try to get

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folks more involved. And so as we open it up

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for that, I would love to hear from anybody who

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has something to say. If you haven't tuned in

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before, a couple of things. So one, obviously

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this is being recorded and is going to become

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our podcast episode later. You'll see it probably

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a week or two from now. And then additionally,

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we have the Zoom meeting going with the chat

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feature. So if there are random questions, you

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don't want to have your voice on there or you

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don't want to say something, by all means, you

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can chat it up. And I've got the little chat

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window open. So I'll pick those comments up as

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we're going. I think I covered all of the housekeeping

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items. So tonight we are talking about excessive

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barking and why dogs bark and how we're going

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to work through it. So barking is a totally normal

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dog behavior. Man, can it be annoying though?

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Although there are some dogs that just don't

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really bark. Right, that is fair. Just like there

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are some dogs that... are super yappy yeah and

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will bark incessantly all the time there are

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some dogs that never bark yeah um there are some

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dogs that um do something called baying yeah

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right right we have a hound a hound mix and uh

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And right when he is alerting to something, everyone

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knows. He makes sure everyone in the neighborhood

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knows. He kicks off the party. Right. He doesn't

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just go, you know. It's like a husky. It's like

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a howl. And so there are different types of barking.

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But either way, excessive barking is almost always

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a symptom of. Something that's like an unmet

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need or maybe they're unclear expectations or

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maybe they're just like habits that have been

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like kind of reinforced in the dog. Right. That's

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a lot of it. Most of the time I feel like. And

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so that's what we're going to try to break down

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tonight. So dogs bark kind of because at the

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end of the day, because it's it's something that's

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worked for them. Right. Either they have been

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able to alert. to these things in the past they've

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gotten their point across um before maybe they've

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defended um an area before and they felt like

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it was a successful strategy and so now they

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they continue to use it right and also like i

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think we we also forget that when and some people

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don't even know when a dog barks it releases

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a burst of dopamine that makes that into like

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an addictive habit forming behavior right and

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i think that's hard for people to kind of think

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of and see when you like look at a dog right

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and it's like an addictive behavior but anything

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that gives dopamine burst to a living you know

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animal or being can become addictive if they

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do it enough times and continue to rehearse it

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even dogs yeah when uh yeah you you watch uh

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like a professional sports game um and like one

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of the reasons why it's so fun to like go to

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that thing live and be there right it's like

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you're like screaming your head off and you're

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screaming for your team and everyone's supporting

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right and you feel a certain way because of that

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now for sure some of that is depending on everything

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that's going on around you, but a lot of it's

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your own physiology. Right. And when a dog is

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sitting there quietly, self -fulfilling, it's

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a totally different experience than if you sit

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there or you, you stand up and scream your head

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off. Right. For sure. And yeah, a dog when it's

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barking doesn't need anybody or anything really

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to like self -fulfill that. So it just becomes

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something that they can do on their own without

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anything even going on. Yeah. And so to reduce

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that, right, we got a, it requires, identifying

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what the motivation is behind it. And then once

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we've kind of diagnosed that and we figured out

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what is encouraging the dog to do that, then

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we can teach them a calm alternative. And then

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instead of relying on just like punishing the

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dog for it and telling the dog not to do what

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the dog, their genetics. tell the dog that they

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should do. Instead, we encourage the dog to do

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a totally different behavior that might be completely

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inversely proportional, right? It might be impossible

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to do the behavior we want them to do and bark

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at the same time. Yeah. And that's one of the

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best ways to deal with it. So we'll jump into

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that. With major point number one. Why? are why

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is my dog barking why is my dog barking and why

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is it i would categorize it excessive so let's

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talk about why dogs bark the dog can bark due

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to alerting we talked about that already i mentioned

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it right maybe the dog's alerting you to a noise

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or a sound or something that the dog things that

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everyone else needs to know about. Number two,

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frustration. Frustration can be a reason why

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dogs bark. That's why working dogs bark a lot

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of the time. That's how they teach them. They

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get them frustrated to make them bark and amp

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them up. I think everyone's kind of seen this

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one where they're playing with a dog or they're

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doing something maybe in a way that You can tell

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the dog wants something, but you're kind of like

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keeping it from them or you're playing keep away

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or something like that. And then eventually the

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dog kind of is like getting ramped up, ramped

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up, ramped up, and then starts barking at you.

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That's a frustration. Yep. Boredom. Where the

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dog's just like, there's nothing going on and

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I have nothing to do. I'm going to start a party

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by myself. Right. Anxiety. Right. Fear. both

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of those can can play a huge role and uh and

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then just in general like uh attention seeking

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oh yeah that's like one of the hardest ones right

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they're like no no one's no one's paying attention

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to me yeah why aren't you looking at me hey hey

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hi you uh so any of those can can be a thing

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um when I would say alerting, anxiety, fear,

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and attention kind of they go hand in hand for

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the number one reason why usually we get the

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call for barking. Yeah. And that can come from

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this concept of the dog a lot of times has free

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reign in the home and will go up to that front

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window. Right. The front of the house. And then

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be like, there's something out there. Yeah. Hey,

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everyone, come look. Right. Or there's something

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out there. Hey, get away from my house. Yeah.

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Or there's whatever. Right. Fill in the blank.

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So before we talk about how we're going to fix

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that. Right. Let's just let's go through all

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of this identifying the motivation behind what

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we're what we're talking about. Many dogs learn

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that barking produces results. And that could

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just be as simple as getting attention for it.

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Or it could be a change. And that's usually what

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it is. So dog barks. Let's put it. Let's just

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use another animal, right? So a cat. cat is walking

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past outdoors, some sort of stray cat, and the

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cat walks past, the dog barks, and the cat runs

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off. Well, it just learned that the barking created

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an environmental change and the cat ran away.

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Now the dog is like, cool, that's a successful

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strategy. Didn't want that cat near my house.

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And I accomplish that. The same thing can happen

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inadvertently and the dog can relate it to their

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behavior even though it's not related. The UPS

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man is the number one concept in my mind for

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that. So UPS guy comes to the door, rings the

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doorbell, dog starts barking, UPS man runs away,

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super scared, gets in his truck, drives away.

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So fast. So fast. And the dog's like, yeah. Scared

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him. Exactly. Got him. Knew it. I heard you.

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Yeah. I didn't want you here. I barked at you.

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You ran away. Yep. And now they're like, sweet.

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This is a successful strategy. I will continue

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to use this anytime that I'm nervous about someone

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approaching. Yep. Yeah. Which then can translate

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into all strangers. Right. Mine is coming out

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of the crate. You put your dog in a crate or

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some sort of confinement and they start barking.

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Right. And you let them out. They just learned

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that that's the number one way. There's an environmental

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change. That's a big one for sure. Yeah. A hundred

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percent. Yeah. Another one. So lack of. A lack

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of physical or mental outlet, right? Something

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that the dog has nothing to do. Yeah. And they're

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just, you know what? Let me cause some chaos

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or let me like pacify myself. Yeah. Let me, you

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know what? I think I heard something. Let me

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see if, if. A better example, right? So the house

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is nice and quiet. You're upstairs or in another

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room. Everything is calm and relaxed. Dog starts

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barking. Suddenly you go bursting through the

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door and you're like, hey, knock it off. That's

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an environmental change. Dog wanted to start

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something. Dog started barking. You came out.

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Even though that's like negative attention or

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negative like attention would be the, there was

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another word. It's just not coming to the tip

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of my tongue. As soon as you get a microphone

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in front of your face, a lot of like words just

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don't show up when they need to. But either way,

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I think everyone probably understands what I'm

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trying to say. When those changes pop up. The

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dog is always running these little experiments.

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They're all little scientists and they're trying

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to figure out how they can manipulate. They're

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not in a bad way, right? How they can influence

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better word. Yeah. How they can influence their

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environment. Yeah. Or get whatever it is that

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they want, you know, just satisfy themselves

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because, and I heard, I don't remember who I

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heard say this the other day, but. When we talk

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about a dog is barking at someone, right? And

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you're walking your dog or your dog is barking

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at someone or another dog, right? And some people

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will say, well, my dog is barking and being protective

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of me. Yeah. Super protective. I hate to break

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it to you, but 99 % of dogs are not barking to

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protect you. They're barking to protect themselves.

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Right. They're doing, most dogs are doing things

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for themselves in some way, shape or form. Right.

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And it can be pack driven. Right. It can be pack

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driven. And they're like, cool. I want to play

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ball. I'm going to bring you the ball. Right.

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That's a pack activity. It's not totally selfish,

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but it's still to satisfy themselves because

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they want the ball. So that is one of the things

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that I, I heard somebody say the other day and

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I was like, right, that is. that is one of those

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uh one of those things where it's like the light

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bulb turns on it's like oh yeah yeah right and

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so though the environmental triggers often create

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repeated rehearsal opportunities and so i wrote

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down that point because that was the mailman

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like theory right the the negative reinforcement

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where Something is being taken away or the thing

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is going away and that is creating in the dog's

00:18:31.089 --> 00:18:34.849
mind this reinforcement activity. This is the

00:18:34.849 --> 00:18:42.869
same concept as why dogs will. 10 when you have

00:18:42.869 --> 00:18:45.890
a reactive dog that is reacting to another dog

00:18:45.890 --> 00:18:49.309
when you're out on a walk and then you both go

00:18:49.309 --> 00:18:51.829
in your separate ways your separate directions

00:18:51.829 --> 00:18:56.390
and the dog is like yeah that's right i did that

00:18:56.390 --> 00:19:01.430
yeah because i blew up on this leash i barked

00:19:01.430 --> 00:19:04.829
my face off i scared that dog that dog and that

00:19:04.829 --> 00:19:10.029
owner ran away yeah but it's not accurate right

00:19:10.029 --> 00:19:12.670
it's just them right exactly you're like i've

00:19:12.670 --> 00:19:14.349
never seen them in my life of course we're gonna

00:19:14.349 --> 00:19:18.609
keep going but to the dog that could be the end

00:19:18.609 --> 00:19:21.250
of it right that's what they got out of that

00:19:21.250 --> 00:19:24.970
i barked at that those that pair of nefarious

00:19:24.970 --> 00:19:32.789
looking folks and they booked it yep um so those

00:19:32.789 --> 00:19:35.920
environmental triggers are a lot of times what

00:19:35.920 --> 00:19:39.240
we accidentally reinforce the dog with. Right,

00:19:39.299 --> 00:19:41.720
because we build a pattern with it. Dogs are

00:19:41.720 --> 00:19:44.660
all about building patterns. It's always a pattern.

00:19:44.740 --> 00:19:48.079
If you put your shoes on and grab your keys and

00:19:48.079 --> 00:19:50.140
your dog gets excited, it's because they built

00:19:50.140 --> 00:19:53.160
a pattern of you picking up your shoes and your

00:19:53.160 --> 00:19:55.359
keys and getting excited. And if you take your

00:19:55.359 --> 00:19:57.880
dog on a walk and they bark at every dog they

00:19:57.880 --> 00:20:00.599
see, but you just continue to take them on those

00:20:00.599 --> 00:20:05.029
walks and let them rehearse those habits. then

00:20:05.029 --> 00:20:07.170
they're just going to reinforce it stronger and

00:20:07.170 --> 00:20:11.970
stronger. Yep. And before we go down, I really

00:20:11.970 --> 00:20:14.569
try, I've been trying to do a lot better at this,

00:20:14.670 --> 00:20:19.250
but I want to break down one little science blurb

00:20:19.250 --> 00:20:24.990
per podcast here. And so today it's going to

00:20:24.990 --> 00:20:31.740
be, it's, I got the microphone in front of my

00:20:31.740 --> 00:20:41.279
face. Barking, walking, rehearsing. It's not

00:20:41.279 --> 00:20:43.940
operant conditioning. It's classical. Golly.

00:20:43.980 --> 00:20:46.119
I was like, I don't know. It was on the tip of

00:20:46.119 --> 00:20:48.599
my tongue. When you see someone, you're like,

00:20:48.680 --> 00:20:54.849
Mary is her name. Um, which is a lot harder when

00:20:54.849 --> 00:20:56.509
you're a dog trainer. Cause you have like four

00:20:56.509 --> 00:20:58.789
times, three times as many names. Usually you've

00:20:58.789 --> 00:21:01.730
got at least, at least it's hard. Yeah. Dog,

00:21:01.730 --> 00:21:04.869
two people. Right. Hopefully not another dog.

00:21:04.950 --> 00:21:07.569
Right. Two dogs. And I hope they look different

00:21:07.569 --> 00:21:11.569
if they don't. Oh my gosh. Um, okay. Sorry for

00:21:11.569 --> 00:21:15.009
my, my, um, we're back. My ridiculousness over

00:21:15.009 --> 00:21:18.130
here. Uh, my brain has been all over the map

00:21:18.130 --> 00:21:24.259
this week. So classical conditioning is, a process

00:21:24.259 --> 00:21:28.539
of conditioning the brain to where now the response

00:21:28.539 --> 00:21:34.380
is no longer the choice of the dog when you're

00:21:34.380 --> 00:21:37.440
talking about operant conditioning you're talking

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about a stimulus and a condition response and

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all of these things that the dog can have some

00:21:44.259 --> 00:21:48.359
sort of effect over their environment you're

00:21:48.359 --> 00:21:51.420
giving the dog the control when you're talking

00:21:51.420 --> 00:21:56.670
about classical conditioning, you're talking

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about a process that the dog cannot control.

00:22:02.130 --> 00:22:07.230
And so this is that Ivan Pavlov experiment where

00:22:07.230 --> 00:22:09.930
ring the bell, give the food, ring the bell,

00:22:09.970 --> 00:22:14.410
give the food. Now the food always produced that

00:22:14.410 --> 00:22:17.809
salivation. thing where when the dog's expected

00:22:17.809 --> 00:22:20.670
to get the food they're like cool i'm really

00:22:20.670 --> 00:22:22.630
excited about this and so they start slobbering

00:22:22.630 --> 00:22:26.930
well when we rang the bell in this experiment

00:22:26.930 --> 00:22:29.630
when he rang the bell then gave the food then

00:22:29.630 --> 00:22:31.410
rang the bell then gave the food then rang the

00:22:31.410 --> 00:22:35.609
bell then gave the food now the dogs start to

00:22:35.609 --> 00:22:40.130
relate the bell to the production of the food

00:22:40.130 --> 00:22:44.559
and so now they're they're This unconditioned

00:22:44.559 --> 00:22:47.539
response, which was initially the salivation

00:22:47.539 --> 00:22:52.759
to the food, becomes a conditioned response to

00:22:52.759 --> 00:22:57.779
the bell. So now the bell rings and they start

00:22:57.779 --> 00:23:01.220
salivating. Not because they care about the bell,

00:23:01.359 --> 00:23:05.099
just because they expect the food to show up.

00:23:06.140 --> 00:23:09.839
Now, when Brianna was saying the keys, when you

00:23:09.839 --> 00:23:13.559
go and you grab your keys. And suddenly the dog

00:23:13.559 --> 00:23:15.700
was freaking out because they want to go because

00:23:15.700 --> 00:23:19.599
they hear the keys. This is no different. It

00:23:19.599 --> 00:23:25.859
has become a conditioned response to the jingling

00:23:25.859 --> 00:23:32.119
of the keys because they expect whatever is coming

00:23:32.119 --> 00:23:35.480
next. Now, when we talk about barking and we

00:23:35.480 --> 00:23:37.539
talk about this mailman theory, we talk about

00:23:37.539 --> 00:23:41.650
the UPS guy and all of these, the. environmental

00:23:41.650 --> 00:23:49.069
cues here you can create a experience that conditions

00:23:49.069 --> 00:23:54.750
the dog and now without you even realizing it

00:23:54.750 --> 00:24:00.569
your dog is programmed to respond that certain

00:24:00.569 --> 00:24:06.730
way yep so now when they hear the brakes of the

00:24:06.730 --> 00:24:13.900
ups truck They start barking. And it has nothing

00:24:13.900 --> 00:24:18.160
to do with the actual sound. It has to do with

00:24:18.160 --> 00:24:22.759
them predicting that the UPS guy is coming to

00:24:22.759 --> 00:24:27.140
the door and that they are already barking to

00:24:27.140 --> 00:24:31.579
make him go away. Yep. If you understand that,

00:24:31.619 --> 00:24:38.819
then you have a fighting chance to analyze. What

00:24:38.819 --> 00:24:43.839
it is that's happening. Break it down. And then.

00:24:44.019 --> 00:24:46.460
Break it apart. And figure out what you can.

00:24:46.519 --> 00:24:49.599
Do to. Right. Dissolve. Condition. Yeah. Dissolve.

00:24:49.680 --> 00:24:52.940
That response. Exactly. Okay. So that was my

00:24:52.940 --> 00:24:55.460
science lesson for today. If you aren't. Fully.

00:24:55.640 --> 00:24:58.019
Right. I need a little. Sound effect. For the.

00:24:58.200 --> 00:25:01.339
You do. The nightly. Yeah. Like a little like.

00:25:01.380 --> 00:25:03.960
Science experiment. Noise or something. We're

00:25:03.960 --> 00:25:05.200
going to. We're. I'm going to figure it out.

00:25:05.259 --> 00:25:08.750
I'm going to get on that. Right. It's going to

00:25:08.750 --> 00:25:11.869
be Bill Nye, the science guy pretty soon. So

00:25:11.869 --> 00:25:16.910
I really want to leave you guys with things that

00:25:16.910 --> 00:25:19.609
you can action and that you like truly learn

00:25:19.609 --> 00:25:23.509
something new, not just create a talk show where

00:25:23.509 --> 00:25:29.150
we talk about dog behavior. So with that being

00:25:29.150 --> 00:25:32.250
said, what we're going to do now is we're going

00:25:32.250 --> 00:25:35.809
to open it up. Does anyone listening? Lila, this

00:25:35.809 --> 00:25:40.910
is where you come in. Does anyone listening have

00:25:40.910 --> 00:25:45.910
any personal experience that they can share,

00:25:45.970 --> 00:25:49.349
want to share, or want to throw out about why

00:25:49.349 --> 00:25:52.690
their dog barks or how their dog barks prior

00:25:52.690 --> 00:25:55.710
to us moving forward with identifying some of

00:25:55.710 --> 00:25:58.829
the fixes here? But what are some other reasons

00:25:58.829 --> 00:26:02.240
other than just what we already named? What are

00:26:02.240 --> 00:26:05.799
some other reasons that you have had your personal

00:26:05.799 --> 00:26:11.640
dog bark at stuff? I've got you, Ryan. Send it.

00:26:12.380 --> 00:26:18.319
So you guys helped Pip and I work through his

00:26:18.319 --> 00:26:22.920
demand barking at the refrigerator. All right.

00:26:23.039 --> 00:26:28.619
That is a good one. The whipped cream. Yes. Which

00:26:28.619 --> 00:26:31.660
is a word we still whisper because I'm afraid

00:26:31.660 --> 00:26:37.740
of what it might trigger. Love that. But he would

00:26:37.740 --> 00:26:41.019
sit at the fridge and demand bark at the fridge

00:26:41.019 --> 00:26:44.779
because he knew that if he did that, he would

00:26:44.779 --> 00:26:47.759
get whipped cream out of the fridge. Because

00:26:47.759 --> 00:26:51.779
every time somebody went in the fridge, they

00:26:51.779 --> 00:26:54.720
would give it to him. Or he knew that if he did

00:26:54.720 --> 00:26:58.220
that, he would. he would get it. Um, which is

00:26:58.220 --> 00:27:00.759
part of, and a lot of times you've talked about

00:27:00.759 --> 00:27:05.720
this on the pod that is a challenge of living

00:27:05.720 --> 00:27:08.900
with people, many people in a home that have

00:27:08.900 --> 00:27:13.160
different ideas of how a dog should be. Yeah.

00:27:13.220 --> 00:27:18.039
Of acceptable behavior, right? Yeah. So, um,

00:27:18.160 --> 00:27:22.000
great example. Yeah, Pip is six years old, so

00:27:22.000 --> 00:27:25.799
it was a hard habit to kick. Right, that's a

00:27:25.799 --> 00:27:28.019
lot of time to be addicted to whipped cream.

00:27:28.460 --> 00:27:31.819
Yes. My man was living his best life, though.

00:27:31.819 --> 00:27:36.000
He was. He still is. He still is, right. It's

00:27:36.000 --> 00:27:40.460
just a much healthier. Much healthier life with

00:27:40.460 --> 00:27:44.380
much more defined expectations. So that's a really

00:27:44.380 --> 00:27:48.559
good example. The demand barking for like when

00:27:48.559 --> 00:27:52.480
a dog finds that, hey, cool, this works and this

00:27:52.480 --> 00:27:55.359
gets me a treat or gets me dinner or gets me

00:27:55.359 --> 00:27:58.339
whipped cream in this case, right? That's a great

00:27:58.339 --> 00:28:02.599
example that I don't think we might have barely

00:28:02.599 --> 00:28:06.420
touched on but really didn't even include that.

00:28:06.539 --> 00:28:14.940
So I love that. Um, as that behavior was reinforced

00:28:14.940 --> 00:28:19.660
by whatever followed. Yeah. Right. And so that

00:28:19.660 --> 00:28:23.599
one was like to get to an end. Right. I want

00:28:23.599 --> 00:28:27.059
this. I want yummy snacks. I know they're in

00:28:27.059 --> 00:28:29.200
this white box. I know that they're here. Thumbs.

00:28:29.200 --> 00:28:33.220
Somebody open it. Yeah. Love that. Great. Uh,

00:28:33.299 --> 00:28:38.470
great example. Thanks Lila. All right. Because

00:28:38.470 --> 00:28:41.970
you helped break that because that was a really

00:28:41.970 --> 00:28:43.990
hard one. And that was a hard one for a really

00:28:43.990 --> 00:28:47.690
long time. It took a really long time for that

00:28:47.690 --> 00:28:50.150
barking to stop because it also happened at an

00:28:50.150 --> 00:28:53.990
only a specific time, like between 8 and 10 p

00:28:53.990 --> 00:28:56.930
.m. Yeah, that is a tough one, especially when

00:28:56.930 --> 00:28:59.660
the dog like. kicks into like the biological

00:28:59.660 --> 00:29:01.660
clock, right? And they've got it like down to

00:29:01.660 --> 00:29:03.660
a time and they're like, now I'm going to bark.

00:29:04.240 --> 00:29:07.480
It's like, oh man, it is a, it is a tough one.

00:29:07.519 --> 00:29:09.180
And that's what we try to tell people is like,

00:29:09.200 --> 00:29:11.519
when you first see the habit, it's like, you

00:29:11.519 --> 00:29:15.279
have to like try to break it down as soon as

00:29:15.279 --> 00:29:17.420
possible because the longer they rehearse it,

00:29:17.519 --> 00:29:20.700
the more like ingrained in them it becomes. And

00:29:20.700 --> 00:29:22.279
they're like, no, no, this is just what I do.

00:29:22.480 --> 00:29:24.839
This is what we do. We can't change it now. Right.

00:29:24.920 --> 00:29:27.339
Cause I don't think he was ever doing it. to

00:29:27.339 --> 00:29:30.859
be a jerk. Right. He's just like, no, this is,

00:29:30.880 --> 00:29:32.400
this is what I get. I would like my whipped cream

00:29:32.400 --> 00:29:36.920
now. It's, it's time. Yeah. Yeah. So thank you

00:29:36.920 --> 00:29:41.019
guys for getting rid of that one. Awesome. Um,

00:29:41.039 --> 00:29:44.000
okay. So now let's, we'll, let's break down some

00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:48.359
like common fixes, but all, but more so why some

00:29:48.359 --> 00:29:53.390
of these common things fail. Um, because If we

00:29:53.390 --> 00:29:56.769
don't frame this around how do we change the

00:29:56.769 --> 00:29:59.710
dog's motivation, then we end up focusing on

00:29:59.710 --> 00:30:02.730
the wrong part. So what I was talking about with

00:30:02.730 --> 00:30:07.609
the science was how if you need to understand,

00:30:07.809 --> 00:30:11.990
it wouldn't do me any good in the example I gave

00:30:11.990 --> 00:30:17.990
to play the dog's cue of the sound of the brakes

00:30:17.990 --> 00:30:22.180
on the UPS truck. to play that over and over

00:30:22.180 --> 00:30:27.099
and over and over that, because that's not really

00:30:27.099 --> 00:30:31.019
the reason why the dog was even barking. Now

00:30:31.019 --> 00:30:33.500
that was queuing the barking, but that wasn't

00:30:33.500 --> 00:30:36.500
the original reason. And so you've got to kind

00:30:36.500 --> 00:30:40.940
of attack the actual reason and replace those

00:30:40.940 --> 00:30:45.539
behaviors. Otherwise you're just chasing, you're

00:30:45.539 --> 00:30:48.740
chasing your tail. Yeah. That's a good one. All

00:30:48.740 --> 00:30:55.769
right. So yelling is typically the number one

00:30:55.769 --> 00:30:58.269
fix that people go for, right? Yeah, the dog

00:30:58.269 --> 00:30:59.789
is always going to be louder. They're like, hey,

00:31:00.069 --> 00:31:04.990
stop it. Knock it off. With real excessive barking,

00:31:05.190 --> 00:31:08.750
right? Yeah. Because I don't know why, but I

00:31:08.750 --> 00:31:11.089
mean, I think it's just a human trait. Right,

00:31:11.089 --> 00:31:12.750
we just try to match the dog where they are.

00:31:12.769 --> 00:31:16.049
Right. The dog's yelling at you, so you're going

00:31:16.049 --> 00:31:18.369
to yell at it. Yeah. And it's like, no, no, no.

00:31:18.369 --> 00:31:20.230
They're not. They're not really yelling at you.

00:31:20.289 --> 00:31:24.109
Right. It's not what they're doing. But yelling

00:31:24.109 --> 00:31:29.289
often increases arousal in the dog. Right. The

00:31:29.289 --> 00:31:32.710
dog doesn't really have a way that it can express

00:31:32.710 --> 00:31:38.170
in the same accurate or in the same accuracy

00:31:38.170 --> 00:31:43.450
as we can verbally. So a lot of times when we

00:31:43.450 --> 00:31:49.019
yell about barking or. surrounding the concept

00:31:49.019 --> 00:31:51.480
of barking, we just increase the arousal that

00:31:51.480 --> 00:31:54.460
then makes the dog try to match that energy.

00:31:54.720 --> 00:31:59.140
And so that often just reinforces the issue.

00:32:00.200 --> 00:32:05.619
Another thing is that regardless of what tool

00:32:05.619 --> 00:32:10.940
we end up using, if we don't use strong structure

00:32:10.940 --> 00:32:15.559
that builds clarity in the dog's mind, then...

00:32:16.140 --> 00:32:20.640
We just end up punishing a dog for doing something

00:32:20.640 --> 00:32:25.319
that we might not fully understand. And that's

00:32:25.319 --> 00:32:29.519
the one that I hate the most. Because the dog

00:32:29.519 --> 00:32:34.579
could be barking in one of these frames of mind

00:32:34.579 --> 00:32:38.420
to alert you of something that could be dangerous.

00:32:38.859 --> 00:32:42.380
And then you're over here acting like a fool

00:32:42.380 --> 00:32:46.019
because you're, you know. Popping their collar

00:32:46.019 --> 00:32:49.660
or using a bark collar or you're doing this or

00:32:49.660 --> 00:32:52.279
doing that. And the dog's like, look, I was just

00:32:52.279 --> 00:32:54.940
trying to tell you that this is real dangerous.

00:32:55.180 --> 00:33:00.279
You know, watch out. So we really need to figure

00:33:00.279 --> 00:33:04.880
out what is motivating them to bark before we

00:33:04.880 --> 00:33:09.259
recommend any type of fix. Another thing that

00:33:09.259 --> 00:33:13.230
erodes that clarity is inconsistent. correction

00:33:13.230 --> 00:33:17.210
or inconsistent enforcement so this is where

00:33:17.210 --> 00:33:20.049
i see the the biggest problem with any of the

00:33:20.049 --> 00:33:23.190
barking is because sometimes owners can identify

00:33:23.190 --> 00:33:25.950
what a dog is barking at and sometimes they can't

00:33:25.950 --> 00:33:29.029
but it could be the same thing and so when a

00:33:29.029 --> 00:33:34.250
dog is like um someone rings the doorbell and

00:33:34.250 --> 00:33:40.470
the dog barks at the person but the ups man comes

00:33:40.470 --> 00:33:43.160
to the door and the dog And doesn't ring the

00:33:43.160 --> 00:33:44.759
doorbell, just leaves the package and the dog

00:33:44.759 --> 00:33:50.259
barks. And one of those, the owner yells at the

00:33:50.259 --> 00:33:52.779
dog and freaks out because they're barking for

00:33:52.779 --> 00:33:58.500
no reason. Right. And the other one, people hear

00:33:58.500 --> 00:34:00.259
the doorbell and they're like, oh, someone's

00:34:00.259 --> 00:34:02.720
here. Of course the dog's going to bark. Yeah.

00:34:02.799 --> 00:34:05.240
But to the dog, both of those two situations

00:34:05.240 --> 00:34:09.619
are identical. They're like, yeah, yeah, but

00:34:09.619 --> 00:34:13.110
I heard something you didn't. Right. I, that,

00:34:13.230 --> 00:34:16.329
that UPS guys still tried to get into this house

00:34:16.329 --> 00:34:21.969
and I scared him away. So I don't know if I'm

00:34:21.969 --> 00:34:25.730
explaining that one. Right. But the end concept

00:34:25.730 --> 00:34:30.489
is that sometimes we try to fix one, but don't

00:34:30.489 --> 00:34:34.170
try to fix the other. And it appears to a dog

00:34:34.170 --> 00:34:38.699
as you're being inconsistent. Yeah. Yep. That's

00:34:38.699 --> 00:34:41.239
the end. Right. Because, yeah, there's a lot

00:34:41.239 --> 00:34:43.239
of things that dogs bark at that like you can't

00:34:43.239 --> 00:34:46.219
pinpoint because dogs can hear things that that

00:34:46.219 --> 00:34:49.639
we can't. So, yeah, I get where you're going

00:34:49.639 --> 00:34:52.760
there. And then the last thing that really builds

00:34:52.760 --> 00:34:54.539
a lot of frustration, which can increase the

00:34:54.539 --> 00:34:57.619
barking by itself, is suppressing barking without

00:34:57.619 --> 00:35:02.039
actually considering the cause. And that can

00:35:02.039 --> 00:35:05.480
escalate the whole thing. Yeah. And I think we've

00:35:05.480 --> 00:35:08.829
kind of. beat this to, to death. So we can, we

00:35:08.829 --> 00:35:11.889
can move on to some things that we can, we can

00:35:11.889 --> 00:35:15.309
actually do here. Right. Fix it. Right. So here's

00:35:15.309 --> 00:35:18.170
a couple of things that we can do. Number one

00:35:18.170 --> 00:35:24.369
on the, you know, canine hierarchy of, of, of,

00:35:24.690 --> 00:35:28.809
I lost it. I lost another word. There's like

00:35:28.809 --> 00:35:31.230
three or four words now that have just escaped

00:35:31.230 --> 00:35:33.329
my brain. I'm going to find them laying on the

00:35:33.329 --> 00:35:37.039
floor later and be like, there they are. So number

00:35:37.039 --> 00:35:40.760
one, we can teach an incompatible behavior to

00:35:40.760 --> 00:35:51.139
the barking. So usually when we teach a sit or

00:35:51.139 --> 00:35:54.239
we teach a down or we teach place, we're not

00:35:54.239 --> 00:35:58.900
teaching those behaviors with barking. And so

00:35:58.900 --> 00:36:05.650
what you can end up doing is you can ask, excuse

00:36:05.650 --> 00:36:08.929
me you can ask for one of those behaviors in

00:36:08.929 --> 00:36:12.389
the moment when the dog is barking most dogs

00:36:12.389 --> 00:36:16.949
will learn to bark standing up and they'll learn

00:36:16.949 --> 00:36:20.349
to bark in that standing position because it's

00:36:20.349 --> 00:36:24.210
on an arousal matrix that like makes more sense

00:36:24.210 --> 00:36:26.710
to the dog the dog is like hey there's something

00:36:26.710 --> 00:36:30.190
going on i need to stand up just because of like

00:36:30.190 --> 00:36:34.619
they're more ready that way yeah so Giving the

00:36:34.619 --> 00:36:40.280
dog something to do, a job to do, that doesn't

00:36:40.280 --> 00:36:43.099
allow them to stand up and doesn't allow them

00:36:43.099 --> 00:36:50.159
to bark will immediately neutralize some of those

00:36:50.159 --> 00:36:53.820
barking things. Right. So in most instances,

00:36:53.960 --> 00:36:57.659
you can put the dog into a down. There's no 100

00:36:57.659 --> 00:36:59.880
% on any of this stuff. And we'll talk about

00:36:59.880 --> 00:37:05.719
that. My dog is a perfect example of one that

00:37:05.719 --> 00:37:09.840
a down is not going to keep them from barking.

00:37:09.900 --> 00:37:11.960
They will bark in a down. They'll bark in a sit.

00:37:12.079 --> 00:37:14.679
They'll bark. Yeah. They'll bark in. They'll

00:37:14.679 --> 00:37:16.800
bark anywhere. In any position. Here, there,

00:37:16.800 --> 00:37:19.579
anywhere. Here, there. Yeah. So we'll talk about

00:37:19.579 --> 00:37:21.659
that. We'll talk about that in a minute. Right.

00:37:21.719 --> 00:37:24.679
And it's also that's a working dog that has like.

00:37:24.739 --> 00:37:30.610
Yeah. Barely a dog. More like a coyote. So. One,

00:37:30.730 --> 00:37:32.750
we can teach that incompatible behavior. Then

00:37:32.750 --> 00:37:35.130
we can hold the dog accountable to doing those

00:37:35.130 --> 00:37:40.889
behaviors. So in the midst of barking, no place.

00:37:41.869 --> 00:37:46.510
No place doesn't involve barking. So this makes

00:37:46.510 --> 00:37:51.909
sense. And this allows you to not just go, no,

00:37:52.050 --> 00:37:55.550
be quiet or something that you probably haven't

00:37:55.550 --> 00:37:59.309
trained. Now, there is another way that you can

00:37:59.309 --> 00:38:03.989
do this, which is by teaching your dog to bark

00:38:03.989 --> 00:38:09.650
and to be quiet. And we've seen some success

00:38:09.650 --> 00:38:12.869
with this if you can do it and you can do it

00:38:12.869 --> 00:38:17.269
reliably. So you teach the dog to bark. And usually

00:38:17.269 --> 00:38:19.829
that process is done through creating frustration

00:38:19.829 --> 00:38:22.909
to get the dog to elicit barking in the first

00:38:22.909 --> 00:38:26.699
place. And then you name the barking. Whatever

00:38:26.699 --> 00:38:29.239
the word is that you're going to use. So you

00:38:29.239 --> 00:38:35.800
name it. Then you name the not barking. Ideally

00:38:35.800 --> 00:38:39.639
with the dog in the same position. And you start

00:38:39.639 --> 00:38:43.659
teaching the dog discrimination between those

00:38:43.659 --> 00:38:47.280
two. Barking, quiet. Barking, quiet. Barking,

00:38:47.280 --> 00:38:52.739
quiet. Then you can name the behavior you want

00:38:52.739 --> 00:38:55.119
the dog to do and then reward the dog for that.

00:38:56.579 --> 00:38:59.519
So when they're barking, you can go, no, quiet.

00:38:59.780 --> 00:39:03.400
Yep. And then reward them for being quiet. So

00:39:03.400 --> 00:39:05.219
that. Right. And I think a lot of people miss

00:39:05.219 --> 00:39:08.139
that concept because it's like when we go to

00:39:08.139 --> 00:39:11.019
do puppy lessons. Right. And we teach them how

00:39:11.019 --> 00:39:12.860
to play with the dog and do tug and things like

00:39:12.860 --> 00:39:15.099
that. But they're like, well, my dog is biting.

00:39:15.360 --> 00:39:16.960
Like, I don't I don't really want to teach them

00:39:16.960 --> 00:39:20.619
to play tug. But you have to have a replacement

00:39:20.619 --> 00:39:24.230
behavior. You have to still give the dog the

00:39:24.230 --> 00:39:27.309
outlet that they're seeking, but in a different

00:39:27.309 --> 00:39:30.210
way. And so if you can teach them the right way

00:39:30.210 --> 00:39:33.530
or the right place to perform those behaviors,

00:39:33.710 --> 00:39:36.949
then you're going to be way better off than just

00:39:36.949 --> 00:39:38.969
shutting the dog down and being like, nope, we're

00:39:38.969 --> 00:39:41.159
just never going to do that. Right. Instead of

00:39:41.159 --> 00:39:42.500
being like, well, we can do that, but we can

00:39:42.500 --> 00:39:45.059
only do it here. And now when I tell you to do

00:39:45.059 --> 00:39:46.820
it. Right. And Dexter is a perfect candidate

00:39:46.820 --> 00:39:49.500
for that. Yeah. And Dexter, my dog that we were

00:39:49.500 --> 00:39:53.679
talking about, because he barks because it's

00:39:53.679 --> 00:39:55.960
like, it's like in his butt. He barks because

00:39:55.960 --> 00:39:58.780
for the same reason that he bites, right? Like

00:39:58.780 --> 00:40:01.539
he's, he's a working dog. It's in Tuesday. It's

00:40:01.539 --> 00:40:05.179
in his genetics. And it's like, I am gonna, I

00:40:05.179 --> 00:40:08.059
gotta bite something. And he'll run around and

00:40:08.059 --> 00:40:10.739
be like, and kind of look at you like, Can I

00:40:10.739 --> 00:40:12.440
bite something? Is there something to bite? What

00:40:12.440 --> 00:40:15.519
am I going to bite? And he'll do the same thing

00:40:15.519 --> 00:40:17.119
for barking. He's like, is there something to

00:40:17.119 --> 00:40:21.679
bark at? Let me bark at it. But that is a need

00:40:21.679 --> 00:40:26.599
that he is having and is showing. So give him

00:40:26.599 --> 00:40:31.380
an outlet for that. Then you can, once you've

00:40:31.380 --> 00:40:35.079
given him that outlet in whatever way that is,

00:40:35.179 --> 00:40:36.760
then you can bring him back. You can dial it

00:40:36.760 --> 00:40:39.230
back and be like, all right, now. We're going

00:40:39.230 --> 00:40:41.289
to go to our place. Now we're going to be quiet.

00:40:41.389 --> 00:40:43.969
Because as soon as we do like a tug session with

00:40:43.969 --> 00:40:48.449
him, he is like 70 % of a different dog than

00:40:48.449 --> 00:40:51.090
before you played tug with him just after like

00:40:51.090 --> 00:40:53.469
one round, much less like multiple rounds. But

00:40:53.469 --> 00:40:57.389
he's also a dog that just needs to be more fulfilled

00:40:57.389 --> 00:41:00.690
than like an average dog. He's just not an average

00:41:00.690 --> 00:41:05.840
dog. Right. And I think. I lost what I just had.

00:41:05.900 --> 00:41:09.440
I just had something. Something about 70%. 70

00:41:09.440 --> 00:41:12.320
% of a different dog. There's a lot of words

00:41:12.320 --> 00:41:14.800
flying on the floor over here. I know. It's just

00:41:14.800 --> 00:41:16.780
words all over the floor. They're all over. That

00:41:16.780 --> 00:41:19.179
was like a whole sentence too. All right. Well.

00:41:19.739 --> 00:41:25.199
Maybe later. We'll keep driving forward. Let's

00:41:25.199 --> 00:41:28.119
see. Where am I at? My notes here. Oh, I was

00:41:28.119 --> 00:41:30.619
going to say, he's also a different type of dog

00:41:30.619 --> 00:41:33.139
because he's the only dog that like we know that

00:41:33.139 --> 00:41:35.800
will bark in any position. He's also the only

00:41:35.800 --> 00:41:38.360
dog that can bark with a tug in his mouth that,

00:41:38.360 --> 00:41:42.360
you know, can play tug while barking. Yes. It's

00:41:42.360 --> 00:41:46.320
crazy. He can hold on to a full bite. Yeah. With

00:41:46.320 --> 00:41:51.719
a tug. And bark. And very clearly bark the exact

00:41:51.719 --> 00:41:54.320
same way. Through the pillow. Through the. Through

00:41:54.320 --> 00:41:58.300
the white pillow. Crazy. Yep. So you could have

00:41:58.300 --> 00:42:00.239
that one. I'll trade you. Right. Yeah. Anyone

00:42:00.239 --> 00:42:03.019
who's like, man, I cannot. You're having a hard

00:42:03.019 --> 00:42:06.059
time. I can't get my. We can show you harder.

00:42:08.579 --> 00:42:12.380
Just kidding. He's one of our faves. He's something.

00:42:13.579 --> 00:42:20.300
Okay. I'm trying not to make this. Let's stay

00:42:20.300 --> 00:42:22.900
on track. Don't do any more jokes. What we can

00:42:22.900 --> 00:42:27.940
do also is we can manage the environment to avoid

00:42:27.940 --> 00:42:32.300
or to prevent the rehearsal of those patterns.

00:42:33.059 --> 00:42:39.179
So a great example of this is when we get calls

00:42:39.179 --> 00:42:42.639
about, well, my dog runs to the front door and

00:42:42.639 --> 00:42:46.099
goes in this window. Right. And there's oftentimes

00:42:46.099 --> 00:42:48.820
there's like a bench or something like towards

00:42:48.820 --> 00:42:51.719
the front of the house or a couch or something

00:42:51.719 --> 00:42:54.679
that kind of butts up to this window. And well,

00:42:54.739 --> 00:42:57.199
my dog gets in the window and then just barks

00:42:57.199 --> 00:42:59.219
its face off at anybody that's like going by.

00:42:59.659 --> 00:43:03.139
Well, a management strategy for that environment

00:43:03.139 --> 00:43:07.559
is how can we block that off from being an option?

00:43:07.780 --> 00:43:11.619
How do we prevent the dog from getting into position

00:43:11.619 --> 00:43:17.670
for them to. rehearse that behavior remember

00:43:17.670 --> 00:43:23.449
that dogs will almost always do and perform the

00:43:23.449 --> 00:43:27.570
task that they have been allowed to do and perform

00:43:27.570 --> 00:43:31.289
and or encouraged and reinforced to do and perform

00:43:31.289 --> 00:43:33.670
right and they will just grow into that behavior

00:43:33.670 --> 00:43:38.210
right and not not just stop doing it so one way

00:43:38.210 --> 00:43:43.000
that we let that behavior die naturally is by

00:43:43.000 --> 00:43:47.039
prolonging the amount of time between successful

00:43:47.039 --> 00:43:51.699
rehearsals of those behaviors. And that is one

00:43:51.699 --> 00:44:02.420
way that Lila applied in order to get Pip off

00:44:02.420 --> 00:44:06.199
of the whipped cream demand barking behavior,

00:44:06.460 --> 00:44:12.920
is by elongating. the amount of time between

00:44:12.920 --> 00:44:17.260
those events to then be able to introduce a different

00:44:17.260 --> 00:44:21.019
behavior yep and replacing that behavior i remember

00:44:21.019 --> 00:44:23.860
she used play she would take them out for a walk

00:44:23.860 --> 00:44:27.139
so replaced some of those behaviors it's like

00:44:27.139 --> 00:44:28.800
cool when it's time for whipped cream we'll just

00:44:28.800 --> 00:44:30.900
go for a walk instead or we'll just play instead

00:44:30.900 --> 00:44:33.500
or we'll do a training session so yeah those

00:44:33.500 --> 00:44:35.460
were some introducing a different behavior yep

00:44:35.460 --> 00:44:43.659
and then um There was another point here about

00:44:43.659 --> 00:44:48.159
dogs that go outside. Dogs that go outside, they

00:44:48.159 --> 00:44:51.179
go into like a backyard and then they run up

00:44:51.179 --> 00:44:54.440
and down the fence and bark at the neighbor dogs.

00:44:54.719 --> 00:44:59.840
Or they go outside and they bark their faces

00:44:59.840 --> 00:45:05.320
off at sirens or noises or whatever it is. Well,

00:45:05.679 --> 00:45:13.429
the unfortunate reality. Is that if not prevented,

00:45:13.670 --> 00:45:17.570
dogs are going to continue to do what they reinforce

00:45:17.570 --> 00:45:22.650
that they want to do. Yeah. So we putting something,

00:45:22.789 --> 00:45:28.610
putting something in the way of their natural

00:45:28.610 --> 00:45:33.630
running spots. Right. Where they. They run up

00:45:33.630 --> 00:45:36.550
and down and that's when the barking starts.

00:45:36.829 --> 00:45:39.469
I've seen that one where they run up and down

00:45:39.469 --> 00:45:43.369
the fence and about by the third or fourth run,

00:45:43.670 --> 00:45:48.190
that's when the barking starts because that's

00:45:48.190 --> 00:45:50.849
when the frustration has finally got to a level

00:45:50.849 --> 00:45:55.250
that the dog's starting to bark. Well, if you

00:45:55.250 --> 00:46:00.559
prevent the third or fourth run, The dog never

00:46:00.559 --> 00:46:04.159
gets to that level of frustration to where the

00:46:04.159 --> 00:46:08.199
barking starts. The more and the longer that

00:46:08.199 --> 00:46:13.059
we go between those frustration events, we decrease

00:46:13.059 --> 00:46:18.119
the likelihood or the statistical chance that

00:46:18.119 --> 00:46:20.260
they're going to start that barking episode again.

00:46:22.119 --> 00:46:25.280
Same thing of just. putting the dogs out in the

00:46:25.280 --> 00:46:27.679
backyard and then there's cars going by or there's

00:46:27.679 --> 00:46:30.019
something going by and, and now they're barking.

00:46:30.159 --> 00:46:32.960
Well, we have to manage their environment. We

00:46:32.960 --> 00:46:36.340
have to manage the event. You can do that in

00:46:36.340 --> 00:46:38.460
a couple of different ways. And we're going to

00:46:38.460 --> 00:46:41.280
talk about some other things that you can do

00:46:41.280 --> 00:46:46.360
to kind of like interrupt those behaviors. But

00:46:46.360 --> 00:46:50.460
managing their environment is definitely number

00:46:50.460 --> 00:46:54.260
one. Yeah. Because if you don't, like change

00:46:54.260 --> 00:46:57.000
it somehow then they're just going to keep doing

00:46:57.000 --> 00:47:02.000
it yeah if if they are allowed to sit in that

00:47:02.000 --> 00:47:04.980
window they're gonna bark they're not going to

00:47:04.980 --> 00:47:08.199
one day go you know i don't think i'm gonna bark

00:47:08.199 --> 00:47:10.539
today i don't need to bark at that car right

00:47:10.539 --> 00:47:12.039
i don't need to bark at those people walking

00:47:12.039 --> 00:47:15.320
by they're not going to do that they're just

00:47:15.320 --> 00:47:22.909
not no um all right we can we can re we can reward

00:47:22.909 --> 00:47:28.769
the inverse pattern so rewarding calm behavior

00:47:28.769 --> 00:47:32.329
but being proactive about it that's a big one

00:47:32.329 --> 00:47:42.250
by what does that mean so um when a when you

00:47:42.250 --> 00:47:47.150
know that something is about to happen yes and

00:47:47.150 --> 00:47:53.820
you proactively interrupt the pattern and reward

00:47:53.820 --> 00:47:59.820
the dog for something else you've broken that

00:47:59.820 --> 00:48:06.340
behavioral pattern that's huge yeah by adjusting

00:48:06.340 --> 00:48:11.219
and avoiding the precursors that then like play

00:48:11.219 --> 00:48:15.840
this out it's like taking a record the old records

00:48:15.840 --> 00:48:21.360
cd or whatever right well The record would play

00:48:21.360 --> 00:48:25.099
by that like needle going around hitting the

00:48:25.099 --> 00:48:29.000
pits and valleys and all of that. And if you

00:48:29.000 --> 00:48:32.760
took an old style record and you scratched it

00:48:32.760 --> 00:48:38.860
up and then you put it back on the player, the

00:48:38.860 --> 00:48:41.900
record player, it would never sound the same.

00:48:43.139 --> 00:48:47.400
That's all that we're doing, right? One scratch.

00:48:48.199 --> 00:48:51.719
Makes it sound a little bit different. Two scratches,

00:48:51.840 --> 00:48:54.179
three scratches, four scratches. Eventually,

00:48:54.280 --> 00:48:58.760
that thing will never play the same way. And

00:48:58.760 --> 00:49:02.079
that's what we're going for. By interrupting

00:49:02.079 --> 00:49:08.059
the pattern and then conditioning by being proactive

00:49:08.059 --> 00:49:12.099
about your conditioning, you can change the entire

00:49:12.099 --> 00:49:23.639
concept for the dog. Use structure. So what that

00:49:23.639 --> 00:49:25.159
might look like, that's where we're going to

00:49:25.159 --> 00:49:26.659
use our place beds. That's where we're going

00:49:26.659 --> 00:49:28.920
to use our crate time. That's where we're going

00:49:28.920 --> 00:49:34.440
to use different sounds and music and white noise

00:49:34.440 --> 00:49:38.980
and other things in the house. We can adjust

00:49:38.980 --> 00:49:49.269
the dog's experience in the home to change. what

00:49:49.269 --> 00:49:53.530
they are relating to and how they're relating

00:49:53.530 --> 00:49:57.369
to those, those variables. Yeah. Because if there's,

00:49:57.369 --> 00:49:59.929
if you don't give them something else to do,

00:50:00.030 --> 00:50:02.610
they're just going to continue. Yeah. And I think

00:50:02.610 --> 00:50:06.989
like place is my favorite. And when it comes

00:50:06.989 --> 00:50:10.469
to barking and things like that, a place is so.

00:50:11.480 --> 00:50:13.559
Good for that because it's so versatile and you

00:50:13.559 --> 00:50:15.320
can move it, right? If your dog is having a problem

00:50:15.320 --> 00:50:16.980
barking in the window, give them a place bed.

00:50:17.059 --> 00:50:20.119
Move it somewhere away from the window. Any of

00:50:20.119 --> 00:50:23.400
that stuff can be related to place. So it's definitely

00:50:23.400 --> 00:50:27.539
one of my favorites as always. Then you've got

00:50:27.539 --> 00:50:30.500
a couple other pattern interrupters. So there

00:50:30.500 --> 00:50:35.460
is a couple of our favorites. There's compressed

00:50:35.460 --> 00:50:41.880
air. So Pet Corrector is a brand. of compressed

00:50:41.880 --> 00:50:46.360
air. There are some Amazon knockoffs like Pet

00:50:46.360 --> 00:50:50.539
Educator and some other things that are all,

00:50:50.719 --> 00:50:56.380
it's all compressed air. The concept is that

00:50:56.380 --> 00:51:02.780
this air rushes out of this nozzle that is appropriately

00:51:02.780 --> 00:51:07.989
sized to make it much louder. than regular compressed

00:51:07.989 --> 00:51:11.230
air like think keyboard like cleaner type air

00:51:11.230 --> 00:51:15.809
yeah um usually that's not loud enough to um

00:51:15.809 --> 00:51:20.849
really like change the dogs right um the pattern

00:51:20.849 --> 00:51:22.690
yeah it's not it's not usually loud enough to

00:51:22.690 --> 00:51:26.309
to break the pattern or or for a dog to even

00:51:26.309 --> 00:51:31.750
hear it over their own barking however the um

00:51:34.059 --> 00:51:37.239
This pet corrector stuff has a little nozzle

00:51:37.239 --> 00:51:41.699
on it that can be really, really useful in making

00:51:41.699 --> 00:51:45.619
this compressed air significantly louder. And

00:51:45.619 --> 00:51:48.980
that is a great pattern interrupt because it's

00:51:48.980 --> 00:51:54.880
something very odd to the dog. And they usually

00:51:54.880 --> 00:51:56.480
have no idea what's kind of going on because

00:51:56.480 --> 00:51:59.449
it's just a loud noise. Right. It's basically

00:51:59.449 --> 00:52:02.150
the equivalent of having Cesar Millan like in

00:52:02.150 --> 00:52:07.889
your living room. Yeah. But like loud. And we're

00:52:07.889 --> 00:52:10.269
not poking them with it. We're just, it's like

00:52:10.269 --> 00:52:11.989
we're holding it behind our back. Right. And

00:52:11.989 --> 00:52:15.650
when we use that, we're not spraying it at the

00:52:15.650 --> 00:52:18.750
dog. We're not like hitting the dog with it.

00:52:18.769 --> 00:52:21.889
Right. We're. uh it's it's not quite the same

00:52:21.889 --> 00:52:24.170
i usually conceal the can honestly so that a

00:52:24.170 --> 00:52:27.050
dog doesn't like pick up on the fact of like

00:52:27.050 --> 00:52:30.929
what it is and then you don't even use it from

00:52:30.929 --> 00:52:32.690
then on out because the dog sees the can come

00:52:32.690 --> 00:52:34.489
out and they're like oh no i'm not gonna i'm

00:52:34.489 --> 00:52:35.949
not gonna do that right the funny thing about

00:52:35.949 --> 00:52:40.389
the caesar milan thing is that what he would

00:52:40.389 --> 00:52:46.239
always do on those tlc episodes was Was a pattern

00:52:46.239 --> 00:52:48.519
interrupt. Right. Yeah. He was just poking the

00:52:48.519 --> 00:52:49.980
dog to get their attention. He was just poking

00:52:49.980 --> 00:52:53.900
the dog and going. Yeah. I've poked a couple

00:52:53.900 --> 00:52:57.380
of dogs. I'm telling you. So I took a course,

00:52:57.699 --> 00:53:02.519
a very like, you know, highly sought after course

00:53:02.519 --> 00:53:06.340
and things like that. And they also do that.

00:53:06.400 --> 00:53:08.460
They don't do it in the same like silly way as

00:53:08.460 --> 00:53:12.610
much, but they for sure like. They use it as

00:53:12.610 --> 00:53:16.650
like a pattern interrupter and as like an energy

00:53:16.650 --> 00:53:19.710
expeller. Right. It's like it's like a little

00:53:19.710 --> 00:53:21.809
nudge to somebody being like, hey, take it down

00:53:21.809 --> 00:53:23.710
a notch. Like, hey, take it down a notch. Right.

00:53:23.969 --> 00:53:27.849
And it works because it's a pattern. Yeah. Right.

00:53:27.989 --> 00:53:30.150
And it makes the dog go, whoa. Yeah. What the

00:53:30.150 --> 00:53:33.429
heck was that? But yeah, I mean, we've we. I

00:53:33.429 --> 00:53:35.710
love some pet corrector for specific things.

00:53:35.769 --> 00:53:38.429
And it's also the equivalent of like a can of

00:53:38.429 --> 00:53:41.050
pennies or a jar of pennies or whatever it is

00:53:41.050 --> 00:53:43.110
of pennies. Right. And shaking the pennies. Yeah.

00:53:43.130 --> 00:53:46.050
Some coins in a cup or coins in a jar or something

00:53:46.050 --> 00:53:48.130
like that. Something like that. It's just a very

00:53:48.130 --> 00:53:51.670
little shake. Strange noise. Yeah. It's loud.

00:53:51.670 --> 00:53:53.869
That's a good homemade version of a pet corrector

00:53:53.869 --> 00:53:56.590
essentially. But pet corrector is just really

00:53:56.590 --> 00:53:58.690
good because it's really loud and it's just convenient

00:53:58.690 --> 00:54:01.929
to kind of like have. Yeah. But super good for

00:54:01.929 --> 00:54:04.530
dogs that just. they bark one really, really

00:54:04.530 --> 00:54:07.809
loud because loud barking is harder to interrupt.

00:54:07.889 --> 00:54:11.110
And two, if you just like, can't even get a break

00:54:11.110 --> 00:54:13.230
in the dog of like barking where it's like bark,

00:54:13.289 --> 00:54:15.510
bark, bark, bark, bark, bark, bark, bark. Then

00:54:15.510 --> 00:54:18.110
you can just like give a quick shot. We did it

00:54:18.110 --> 00:54:21.449
last week and the dog was like worried and stressed

00:54:21.449 --> 00:54:23.769
at first. Right. But it quickly interrupted like

00:54:23.769 --> 00:54:26.489
the bark pattern he had developed and he didn't

00:54:26.489 --> 00:54:31.019
bark again. And so I'm glad. You're going down

00:54:31.019 --> 00:54:33.699
the road that I was going to go down, which it's

00:54:33.699 --> 00:54:36.579
perfect. You're doing great driving down the

00:54:36.579 --> 00:54:41.539
road. But what I what I was going to highlight

00:54:41.539 --> 00:54:45.039
here is the dogs that this does not work for

00:54:45.039 --> 00:54:47.880
are the ones that are barking for a specific

00:54:47.880 --> 00:54:52.539
reason and then stopping. Yeah. That this isn't

00:54:52.539 --> 00:54:55.199
going to work. Yeah. Because you're not really

00:54:55.199 --> 00:54:57.659
interrupting. It's unlikely that you're going

00:54:57.659 --> 00:55:02.820
to get that. of the pet corrector at the exact

00:55:02.820 --> 00:55:05.940
moment that they also hear the brakes on the

00:55:05.940 --> 00:55:10.320
UPS truck. Right. So it's not really going to

00:55:10.320 --> 00:55:12.920
interrupt that type of pattern. Where this works

00:55:12.920 --> 00:55:15.900
really, really well is with the dogs that maybe

00:55:15.900 --> 00:55:19.320
they started barking for a reason. Yeah. But

00:55:19.320 --> 00:55:24.719
then they get into this self -gratifying loop

00:55:24.719 --> 00:55:29.159
where now they're barking. They end up barking

00:55:29.159 --> 00:55:31.219
for two different reasons in one episode. Yeah.

00:55:31.380 --> 00:55:34.699
At the beginning, they were barking at you. In

00:55:34.699 --> 00:55:37.960
the case that Brianna was talking about, that

00:55:37.960 --> 00:55:40.960
it worked really well. The dog initially started

00:55:40.960 --> 00:55:43.699
barking because they were nervous of Brianna's

00:55:43.699 --> 00:55:49.840
presence. Right. And then. Right. As a stranger

00:55:49.840 --> 00:55:53.739
coming into the home. And then. it just continued

00:55:53.739 --> 00:55:56.139
and continued and continued and continued and

00:55:56.139 --> 00:55:58.320
continued. And then it was like the dog's barking

00:55:58.320 --> 00:56:01.500
now just because that doesn't even know. I don't

00:56:01.500 --> 00:56:03.420
even know why I'm barking, but I'm barking because

00:56:03.420 --> 00:56:06.840
I've been barking for a while and it, and I feel

00:56:06.840 --> 00:56:08.659
better about it, I guess. So I'm just going to

00:56:08.659 --> 00:56:10.280
keep doing it. It's making me feel better. So

00:56:10.280 --> 00:56:12.679
I'm just going to keep going. It's self gratifying.

00:56:12.800 --> 00:56:16.460
So at that point, now it interrupts that pattern.

00:56:16.519 --> 00:56:19.239
The dog is like, wait, what was I doing? Yeah.

00:56:19.789 --> 00:56:22.909
And they don't go back into that same pattern.

00:56:23.130 --> 00:56:25.650
Right. It's also a startling effect for dogs,

00:56:25.849 --> 00:56:29.309
right? I think some people like see it and they're

00:56:29.309 --> 00:56:31.329
like, well, that scared the dog, right? Because

00:56:31.329 --> 00:56:33.849
it's loud and it probably will. It's not like

00:56:33.849 --> 00:56:36.929
equivalent to an air horn, but it's loud. And

00:56:36.929 --> 00:56:40.849
it does most of the time kind of startle the

00:56:40.849 --> 00:56:44.489
dog and bring a little bit of like, oh, what

00:56:44.489 --> 00:56:47.519
was that? And like anxiousness. But you're talking

00:56:47.519 --> 00:56:50.860
about a dog that when a dog gets into that pattern,

00:56:51.019 --> 00:56:53.480
it's not good for them anyways. It's not healthy

00:56:53.480 --> 00:56:58.579
for a dog to feel like they have to do that or

00:56:58.579 --> 00:57:01.000
their brains get stuck in this loop. It's just

00:57:01.000 --> 00:57:03.820
not, it's not even a healthy mindset to be in.

00:57:04.039 --> 00:57:07.000
And so interrupting that is honestly like the

00:57:07.000 --> 00:57:09.519
best thing that you can do for that dog is to

00:57:09.519 --> 00:57:11.139
just be like, hey, we're not going to do that.

00:57:11.199 --> 00:57:14.159
Everything is fine. But it does take that interrupter

00:57:14.159 --> 00:57:17.329
sometimes. Sometimes it's not like, you know,

00:57:17.349 --> 00:57:20.849
everybody's favorite, but neither is like incessant

00:57:20.849 --> 00:57:25.090
barking, to be honest. Right. There is the concept

00:57:25.090 --> 00:57:29.530
that it's worth being cautious, right? Because

00:57:29.530 --> 00:57:32.989
we don't want to be too aversive to a dog. But

00:57:32.989 --> 00:57:38.690
there's also the concept that's like, so are

00:57:38.690 --> 00:57:42.710
you going to just live with it because you don't

00:57:42.710 --> 00:57:48.519
like who's. who's the priority here in you just

00:57:48.519 --> 00:57:50.719
living with this aversive behavior, which is

00:57:50.719 --> 00:57:53.559
the bark, the excessive barking. It's pretty

00:57:53.559 --> 00:57:58.300
aversive to me. Right. Or are you going to use

00:57:58.300 --> 00:58:01.960
clear communication in order to fairly break

00:58:01.960 --> 00:58:04.780
down this pattern and change it so that then

00:58:04.780 --> 00:58:07.219
your relationship can, can increase in the end.

00:58:07.280 --> 00:58:10.900
Right. Because we always. teach fairness to our

00:58:10.900 --> 00:58:14.380
clients and not once have we ever been like well

00:58:14.380 --> 00:58:15.920
we're going to use a collar and a leash and we're

00:58:15.920 --> 00:58:18.139
just going to correct the dog for barking never

00:58:18.139 --> 00:58:21.820
i think the most extent is probably the pet corrector

00:58:21.820 --> 00:58:24.480
i mean honestly usually we teach redirection

00:58:24.480 --> 00:58:27.099
but every now and then if it is the loop and

00:58:27.099 --> 00:58:29.659
we can like see it and it's like something we're

00:58:29.659 --> 00:58:31.800
involved in and we're there and can help with

00:58:31.800 --> 00:58:35.420
it then 100 it's like okay cool let's just try

00:58:35.420 --> 00:58:37.739
this and if it works great if it doesn't then

00:58:37.739 --> 00:58:40.420
we'll try something else. But everything in dog

00:58:40.420 --> 00:58:44.780
training is fluid because dogs are all so very

00:58:44.780 --> 00:58:48.500
different and intricate. And one thing that works

00:58:48.500 --> 00:58:50.739
for this dog, in 30 seconds I'm going to see

00:58:50.739 --> 00:58:52.119
another dog and it's not going to work for that

00:58:52.119 --> 00:58:54.340
dog. And it could be the same breed dog. It could

00:58:54.340 --> 00:58:56.219
be around the same age dog. But it doesn't matter

00:58:56.219 --> 00:58:59.719
because every single dog is so different. Yeah.

00:59:00.619 --> 00:59:04.360
Last thing that I want to bring up is this other

00:59:04.360 --> 00:59:07.530
strategy. That I think is important to highlight

00:59:07.530 --> 00:59:11.849
and you can apply it. You're going to have to

00:59:11.849 --> 00:59:15.369
use your own creativity to apply it in your home

00:59:15.369 --> 00:59:18.590
in a way that makes sense. But it's the concept

00:59:18.590 --> 00:59:28.789
of showing the dog that you're taking their alert

00:59:28.789 --> 00:59:34.269
seriously. And I'm trying to, I want to make

00:59:34.269 --> 00:59:38.869
sure that I explain this properly. But it would

00:59:38.869 --> 00:59:44.650
be in our home, right? One of the dogs is barking

00:59:44.650 --> 00:59:48.010
because it hears something at the front door.

00:59:48.530 --> 00:59:53.969
What I would do is I would get up or, you know,

00:59:53.969 --> 00:59:58.190
reach my head around the corner and look at the

00:59:58.190 --> 01:00:03.309
door. identify what it is that the dog's alerting

01:00:03.309 --> 01:00:10.690
to, and then move forward from that experience

01:00:10.690 --> 01:00:16.289
with either a different task for the dog or some

01:00:16.289 --> 01:00:19.510
sort of dismissive body language that's like,

01:00:19.630 --> 01:00:23.489
all right, I've assessed it. It's not a threat.

01:00:23.630 --> 01:00:30.369
It's not an issue. Let's move on. Yeah. Can I'm

01:00:30.369 --> 01:00:32.409
like trying to talk through it because there's

01:00:32.409 --> 01:00:37.590
great videos about this on YouTube. But I'm trying

01:00:37.590 --> 01:00:41.190
to like think how I can explain it. When you

01:00:41.190 --> 01:00:48.389
see it in dog body language, when. When a dog

01:00:48.389 --> 01:00:53.010
is when a dog barks at something and another

01:00:53.010 --> 01:00:58.929
dog rolls up right next to it and looks. over

01:00:58.929 --> 01:01:05.489
there and then identifies what it was. And then

01:01:05.489 --> 01:01:10.090
they're like, Hmm. Okay. All right. We we've

01:01:10.090 --> 01:01:15.329
got the pack has now been alerted. Now this isn't

01:01:15.329 --> 01:01:19.510
such a big deal or, or okay, cool. I have done

01:01:19.510 --> 01:01:24.360
my duty. in alerting the other dogs or my family

01:01:24.360 --> 01:01:28.260
to this threat now everyone has kind of like

01:01:28.260 --> 01:01:31.019
they're showing me with their body language that

01:01:31.019 --> 01:01:34.599
they're that they hear it that they're taking

01:01:34.599 --> 01:01:38.280
it seriously all right now we can move forward

01:01:38.280 --> 01:01:42.059
yeah and it alleviates some of the frustration

01:01:42.059 --> 01:01:46.659
and the stress and the dog it also helps the

01:01:46.659 --> 01:01:52.610
dog trust you as a position of leadership so

01:01:52.610 --> 01:01:58.449
if you pretend to never hear this the noise whatever

01:01:58.449 --> 01:02:00.909
it is whether you hear it or not if you pretend

01:02:00.909 --> 01:02:04.210
to never hear it and it's something that when

01:02:04.210 --> 01:02:06.530
we first talked about our first point here where

01:02:06.530 --> 01:02:09.110
you need to diagnose why your dog is barking

01:02:09.110 --> 01:02:12.550
yeah if it's something that they think is threatening

01:02:12.550 --> 01:02:17.309
you need to address it And that could simply

01:02:17.309 --> 01:02:20.030
be looking at it. It could simply be assessing

01:02:20.030 --> 01:02:24.409
it. But if you show the dog that you've assessed

01:02:24.409 --> 01:02:29.269
it, rather than you just knowing, oh, I know

01:02:29.269 --> 01:02:31.929
that that's the mailman because I hear it. So

01:02:31.929 --> 01:02:34.030
I'm going to ignore it. Yeah. Well, the dog doesn't

01:02:34.030 --> 01:02:39.130
know that you know what that is. Right. So this

01:02:39.130 --> 01:02:42.230
is a concept that maybe I've talked around in

01:02:42.230 --> 01:02:46.269
circles, but hopefully I have. highlighted what

01:02:46.269 --> 01:02:50.150
what i am you know kind of trying to to talk

01:02:50.150 --> 01:02:54.309
through here um show your dog that you've got

01:02:54.309 --> 01:02:59.769
it show your dog that hey it's okay i i hear

01:02:59.769 --> 01:03:03.530
what you're saying i know what it is i've assessed

01:03:03.530 --> 01:03:06.489
it it's not a threat let's move on yeah that's

01:03:06.489 --> 01:03:09.030
what you got to do yep okay so at this point

01:03:09.769 --> 01:03:12.190
We're going to open it up for questions. We're

01:03:12.190 --> 01:03:14.010
running a little bit behind. I've gone a little

01:03:14.010 --> 01:03:19.329
bit over the normal hour that I try to limit

01:03:19.329 --> 01:03:22.449
this on. So open it up for questions as well

01:03:22.449 --> 01:03:28.289
as, hey, has anybody dealt with something similar

01:03:28.289 --> 01:03:32.969
or different? And is there something that you

01:03:32.969 --> 01:03:36.829
found that worked for your situation that everyone

01:03:36.829 --> 01:03:40.519
else could benefit from? So I'll open it up for

01:03:40.519 --> 01:03:51.420
anyone who wants to contribute. 10 seconds. You

01:03:51.420 --> 01:03:53.079
didn't play the Jeopardy music. I know because

01:03:53.079 --> 01:03:56.219
I wasn't prepared because my brain words are

01:03:56.219 --> 01:03:58.320
all on the ground. Right. I've been looking for

01:03:58.320 --> 01:04:01.480
them. There it is. All right. Hey, guys, it's

01:04:01.480 --> 01:04:06.159
Heath. Hey, Heath. Hey. Hey, so one thing we

01:04:06.159 --> 01:04:09.199
found with Luna, because she's good about, The

01:04:09.199 --> 01:04:11.219
whole mailman theory and, you know, about people

01:04:11.219 --> 01:04:13.340
coming to the door and alerting us for that.

01:04:13.679 --> 01:04:15.760
But one thing we found that's helped out a lot

01:04:15.760 --> 01:04:18.820
is putting her in her place and just that whole

01:04:18.820 --> 01:04:22.179
process. And that kind of gives her her space

01:04:22.179 --> 01:04:24.920
to calm down and relax a little bit rather than

01:04:24.920 --> 01:04:28.340
being up at the door and, you know, constantly

01:04:28.340 --> 01:04:30.719
aggressive towards the situation. So putting

01:04:30.719 --> 01:04:32.659
her in her place definitely gives her that space

01:04:32.659 --> 01:04:35.360
to chill out and kind of ease off and eventually,

01:04:35.460 --> 01:04:37.909
you know, kind of ease up on the barking. Yeah,

01:04:37.949 --> 01:04:40.349
and that's another concept, right? Because she's

01:04:40.349 --> 01:04:43.090
just more like fearful kind of and just like

01:04:43.090 --> 01:04:45.909
a little insecure, right? And a lot of dogs are

01:04:45.909 --> 01:04:48.030
like that when people come up to the door and

01:04:48.030 --> 01:04:50.170
come into the home. A lot of times it can evolve

01:04:50.170 --> 01:04:53.730
from fear. So giving the dog that space with

01:04:53.730 --> 01:04:57.070
their place or their kennel can just bring some

01:04:57.070 --> 01:04:58.909
of that security and be like, okay, this is my

01:04:58.909 --> 01:05:01.760
space. Nobody bothers me over here. I can relax,

01:05:01.920 --> 01:05:04.219
just watch them from over here and then get involved

01:05:04.219 --> 01:05:09.900
as I feel like it or if I want to. Yeah. Awesome.

01:05:10.000 --> 01:05:14.739
Yeah. Thanks for sharing Heath. So we'll jump

01:05:14.739 --> 01:05:18.699
into listener projects here. I've got two projects

01:05:18.699 --> 01:05:21.659
for you tonight. So number one, calm before the

01:05:21.659 --> 01:05:26.099
trigger. So try to identify your barking trigger.

01:05:26.199 --> 01:05:27.980
If you're dealing with a barking dog at home

01:05:27.980 --> 01:05:31.090
or you're dealing with an excessive barker, Try

01:05:31.090 --> 01:05:32.929
to identify the barking trigger. That's going

01:05:32.929 --> 01:05:35.510
to help you no matter what. Go through those

01:05:35.510 --> 01:05:37.769
triggers that we first talked about and see if

01:05:37.769 --> 01:05:41.369
yours line up with any of those. Then ask the

01:05:41.369 --> 01:05:45.030
dog for place or down before the barking begins

01:05:45.030 --> 01:05:47.489
right as that trigger is starting to arrive,

01:05:47.849 --> 01:05:52.349
whatever that is. At that point, reward that

01:05:52.349 --> 01:05:55.349
calm holding, right? Where we're holding that

01:05:55.349 --> 01:05:57.789
down, holding that place. Even if it's out in

01:05:57.789 --> 01:06:00.150
public somewhere or another dog's walking by,

01:06:00.210 --> 01:06:04.070
hold that good behavior and reward it with your

01:06:04.070 --> 01:06:07.650
continuation type markers. Practice that daily

01:06:07.650 --> 01:06:10.650
and see if that doesn't assist you in kind of

01:06:10.650 --> 01:06:13.869
reconditioning what it is that you're dealing

01:06:13.869 --> 01:06:17.719
with. All right. Project number two is going

01:06:17.719 --> 01:06:26.099
to be start to log it. So track what you think

01:06:26.099 --> 01:06:31.139
is triggering the barking. Write down the different

01:06:31.139 --> 01:06:33.340
things because like Brianna brought up at the

01:06:33.340 --> 01:06:37.039
beginning of this episode, there are things that

01:06:37.039 --> 01:06:39.900
you're not going to hear. There are things you're

01:06:39.900 --> 01:06:41.760
not even going to perceive because it's not going

01:06:41.760 --> 01:06:44.900
to make sense to you. The only way for you to

01:06:44.900 --> 01:06:48.219
start figuring those things out is to start writing

01:06:48.219 --> 01:06:52.239
down the different variables of that experience

01:06:52.239 --> 01:06:57.139
as it's happening. So start keeping a log and

01:06:57.139 --> 01:07:01.920
write down the time of day and what. immediately

01:07:01.920 --> 01:07:06.760
happened before that and um where were you and

01:07:06.760 --> 01:07:11.760
was there anything outside and was there a plane

01:07:11.760 --> 01:07:15.820
flying over did there was a car drive by were

01:07:15.820 --> 01:07:18.760
there dogs or other animals approaching outside

01:07:18.760 --> 01:07:21.900
where was the dog was the dog at the front door

01:07:21.900 --> 01:07:24.559
was the dog at the front window were they just

01:07:24.559 --> 01:07:27.519
laying in their their crate and all of a sudden

01:07:27.519 --> 01:07:31.849
they started barking what was the lead up what

01:07:31.849 --> 01:07:38.269
happened and, and by identifying all those variables,

01:07:38.510 --> 01:07:40.969
you'll start to figure out what those triggers

01:07:40.969 --> 01:07:45.289
are. So then you can attack those and you can

01:07:45.289 --> 01:07:51.590
actually adjust your dog's experience, um, from

01:07:51.590 --> 01:07:54.550
those things instead of just going, no, don't

01:07:54.550 --> 01:07:58.510
do that. No. Instead of just putting a bark collar

01:07:58.510 --> 01:08:01.389
on and being like, well, the bark collar works

01:08:01.389 --> 01:08:04.530
while they're wearing it. Right. Bark collars

01:08:04.530 --> 01:08:07.389
tend to do that. They work while the dog is wearing

01:08:07.389 --> 01:08:09.409
it. And then the dog figures out, hey, when I

01:08:09.409 --> 01:08:11.869
don't have it on, I can bark. And when I do have

01:08:11.869 --> 01:08:14.710
it on, I can't bark. Yeah. And then you're right

01:08:14.710 --> 01:08:17.109
back to square one, still trying to identify

01:08:17.109 --> 01:08:19.729
the triggers. Yep. Because it doesn't fix anything.

01:08:21.140 --> 01:08:24.880
All right. So use that data to adjust structure

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in your house and go about proper exercises in

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order to kind of work through those things. All

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right. That is all I got for tonight. Those are

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the listener projects. So I am going to close

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it out here because we're at an hour and eight

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minutes and that is a long time. It's too long.

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So I appreciate everybody tuning in and listening.

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We're going to close it out tonight. If you have

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another experience with some excessive barking

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and you want to contribute to everyone's knowledge,

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please leave us a comment. Leave us a like. Leave

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us a review on the podcast, wherever you listen

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to it. Happy to also accept comments on how we

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can do this better. I am no professional podcaster,

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but I always want to get better. All right. Have

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a great night, everyone. Good night. See you

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later.