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Welcome to Pawprint Academy, your blueprint to

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raising better dogs. My name is Ryan, and I'll

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be your host for this journey. I've got my trusty

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co -host here, Brianna. Hello. And together,

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we're bringing you real -world training insights

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built on leadership, structure, and proven methods.

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We record this podcast with live clients on the

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line in one take with live, unscripted questions

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and answers. At the end of the day, this podcast

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is a lot more than just teaching your dog to

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sit or stay. creating calmness, and becoming

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the kind of leader your dog truly needs. We do

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that with our three pillar method of trust, obey,

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and perform. Together, we'll show you how these

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three pillars shape every step of training. Thanks

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for being here. Let's get started. Hey there.

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Episode 17. We are on a roll. That's not the

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name of the episode, though. Drop it and leave

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it. Stopping resource guarding early. That is

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the goal tonight. Resource guarding. And resource

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guarding is tricky. Yeah, a little bit. So, a

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couple of news items before we start. So we are

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in the process of trying to incorporate video

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into the podcast. And that would be a lot easier

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if I had any idea what I was doing. But I don't.

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So it's a constant work in progress. And as you

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may see little clips surface and eventually we'll

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be able to upload like the whole thing to YouTube.

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And eventually I would love to get it like. Going

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live and I have kind of like a little video board

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thing that I'm trying to incorporate and trying

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to figure out, but I'm not the best at this.

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So I would love feedback. I have a very thick

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skin. And as you hear things, see things or otherwise,

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uh, that are top dog training related or the

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paw print Academy related, please, by all means,

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I am always open for suggestions. So please.

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Let us know what we're doing right and wrong.

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All right. So for tonight, we're talking about

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drop it and leave it. Two really, really important

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commands to not to stop resource guarding in

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its tracks, really, because once you have resource

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garters, there's it gets real complicated. Yeah.

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There are a whole bunch of. cues and timing issues

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and variables and reasons why a dog learns resource

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guarding. Resource guarding is not typically,

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it is, let me say, let me back up for a second.

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There are parts of it that are, some dogs are

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genetically predisposed to be more likely to

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be resource guarders. However, It's almost always

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learned. We're not going to say it's almost always.

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It is always learned. It's just some dogs pick

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it up faster than others. Right. No dog is born

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guarding their resources. It's always a learned

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behavior. And so teaching your dog leave it and

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drop it early can help to neutralize that and

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also not reverse the process but prevent it.

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We can really help to prevent it and slow the

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process down, especially even in those genetically

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predisposed dogs. Right. And just kind of like

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reduce the conflict between you and the dog.

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Right. Right. And we're going to do that tonight

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in. the same way that we kind of break down everything,

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every call that we do for our clients. We've

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got clients listening in right now and we'll

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open it up for questions. Anyone who's dialed

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in or listening in, if you're in the Zoom app,

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you can just chat. You can open up the little

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chat and throw a question in there. I'll answer

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it as we go. And if not, if you're just dialed

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in like on the phone. then we'll give you a chance

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towards the end to ask any questions that you

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have. So let me open that little chat guy. Cool.

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I am ready. So tonight, our main core idea behind

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the episode tonight is drop it and leave it.

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The commands, they build trust. in the dog because

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it's a process where you're temporarily taking

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away something from the dog but then you're showing

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them that that's not threatening yeah so it builds

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trust it builds safety because the dog is not

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going to be like hey why are you taking that

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away from me once it's trained yeah and then

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it builds really good clear communication between

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you And your dog. The two commands, drop it and

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leave it, can help you prevent conflict. It can

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help you prevent resource guarding. And it teaches

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your dogs how to disengage from objects calmly

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and in a more relaxed environment. Yeah. Rather

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than, oh my goodness, I just lost something of

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value. And that's an important distinction. So

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early clarity. prevents serious behavior later

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yep behavior issues later yeah um cool let's

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talk about it so why if that description doesn't

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explain why they matter then i think you missed

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the boat so just rewind listen to it again but

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let's break it down further so drop it and leave

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it they prevent that conflict because we reduce

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the risk of the dog Feeling a sort of like a

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loss. Right. By teaching the dogs to disengage

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on cue rather than rather than waiting for the

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dog to just get tired of something of value.

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Yeah. And showing them that giving up an item

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or losing something is still valuable. Say say

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that again. I'm sorry. I'm. Asking them to give

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up an item or leave an item is still of value.

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Right. Right. Because we can train that. We can

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use that and then reward them for giving something

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up. Yeah. Because if you think you're just going

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to ask your dog to leave something and not give

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them something in return, then you're not motivating

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the dog to leave something alone. Right. And

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I think a lot of people. This one's good. I think

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that a lot of people. miss the boat early on

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because they're thinking about the end state

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too early and dog training really goes in phases

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right you can't expect if your your thought process

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on this is well i want my dog to just willingly

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give this thing up that they find very valuable

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because i said so that's a fine end state to

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have but that's not how it starts right and that's

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really really important is it's not how it starts

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yeah it starts by rewarding the dog and giving

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them something of more value because i've broken

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this down a couple of times now but if you ask

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your dog to let go of a a a 50 item you better

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have 60 worth of something to give them right

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at the beginning when you're first trying to

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teach them this otherwise maybe like if it's

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a 50 if you're offering 50 worth a treat for

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a 50 item they might be like well i actually

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really like the color of this one better right

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like they're if they're equal what's the reason

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why they really want to trade right and that

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doesn't mean that you're trading the dog like

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in a crisis when they're holding like your most

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valuable like piece of jewelry or shoes or whatever

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it is in your house of course it means during

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your sessions when you're working on this because

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they don't just know how to do it in that moment

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right then you're practicing with those rewards

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right because if if you are expecting them to

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drop it or leave it without teaching them what

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it is and teaching them the value of it, and

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then you're expecting them to do it with something

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that is valuable to you, well, then you're already

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behind the power curve. So we're going to focus,

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so that this podcast doesn't go for three or

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four hours, we're going to focus in on how we're

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going to train it and how we're going to start

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with the dog. both your imagination and your

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experience with your individual dog to build

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on it from there so resource guarding often starts

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with small victories at the dog's level right

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where the dog is able to either scare someone

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or something away or they're able to do they're

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able to punk someone or something right right

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they're like get away from me and then because

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they won in that little situation they were able

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to keep that resource that's a reinforcing event

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right but does it even start with like aggression

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or does it start with like the dog just being

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able to keep something away from you a lot of

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the time at like a little tiny level right so

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if you're trying to get something away from the

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dog even if it's a toy and the dog just starts

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with the catch me if you can game is that where

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it starts to some degree and i think that's where

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it kind of goes with what type of dog do you

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have from there whether it keeps being a playful

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little game or whether it kind of transpires

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into something different yeah i think that the

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I think resource guarding starts at the point

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where the dog takes ownership of a thing. Yeah.

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Of a resource. But the resource, so I guess let's

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define all the terms. A resource can be anything

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that the dog finds valuable. Yeah. And we've

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dealt with dogs that they are guarding toys,

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food, water, shelter. like their crate or kennel

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humans humans a love affection space rooms couches

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beds right whatever it is that the dog finds

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valuable or desires in that moment can be the

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resource and that's why we call it resource guarding

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rather than couch guarding or crate guarding

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or whatever yeah um okay so we've defined that

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and i think a hundred percent really by the definition

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of what What resource guarding is, is it starts

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at the point where a dog sees an item that they

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want and decide to, in the slightest capacity,

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keep it for themselves or reduce the likelihood

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of someone taking it away. They have decided

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this is mine or at least is mine in the short

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term. I want this. Don't take it. At that point,

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it can be really cute because it could just be

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a puppy grabbing a sock and running around with

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it. Now, that doesn't mean that just because

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your puppy grabs your sock and runs around with

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it and doesn't bring it back right away that,

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oh my goodness, I've got to hire a professional

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dog trainer because he's resource guarding. No,

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no, no. But what we're saying is that those little

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decisions, that's where it starts. Right. And

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I think a lot of times, like I immediately go

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to the thought of people trying to teach their

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dog how to play fetch, but not on a leash or

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anything. And so the dog learns really quickly

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because they don't know how to fetch it and bring

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it back to you, that they can just keep the ball

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and then run away from you. that starts off like

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a catch me if you can game immediately. And it

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either stays. All dogs' favorite games. Right.

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And it either stays fun and gets more annoying

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for you or it turns kind of sour and the dog

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is like, oh, well, I kept it away one time. I'll

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figure out how to keep something away again.

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And it becomes self -rewarding. Yeah. Right.

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And at the point where the dog is rewarding themselves

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for keeping something away, you are on the downslope

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because now. The dog's just rewarding themselves.

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And the more that they keep it away, the more

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they win, the more they want to do it. And so

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it just kind of circles on itself. All right.

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Another reason that, so let me go back and stay

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on track here. So teaching a dog to surrender

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items early in their life, is going to help prevent

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escalation into those more guarding behaviors

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when the game kind of stops and it starts to

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become a little more serious. So let's go back

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to the puppy example. We are not saying that

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you can't play catch me if you can. And we're

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not saying that you can't play with a dog who

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grabbed a sock and it's super cute and you're

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having a great time. What we're saying is that

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those decisions, if left unchecked, begin to

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grow into more decisions. Yeah. And those bigger

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decisions can sometimes, as the dog goes through

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their maturity levels, sometimes they can then

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be like, I'm a pretty big dog now. Right. We

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do this with Dexter all the time. Dexter is our

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Dutch Shepherd. He's like 100 pounds now. And

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he's not quite that big, but he's a big boy.

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And he does this all the time. He's just got

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that working dog mind where he's like, Dad, I

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know you've always been in charge, but I'm a

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pretty big man now. I think I might be able to

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run this place. Right. And then he tests things

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and you're like, gosh darn it, get back here.

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So when those happen and the dog inevitably kind

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of pushes those boundaries and we don't check

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them there, that's when they grow. And then they

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grow and grow and grow until eventually you're

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like, whoa, how did we get here? How did we get

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to the point where my dog's showing teeth at

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me? Well, that's just them communicating. It's

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not always aggressive. It's not even the dog

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being like, I'm going to bite you. A lot of times

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it's just the dog being like, no, this is mine.

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It's the same way they correct another dog. Same

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way they communicate with another dog. They don't

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communicate verbally. They're not going to speak

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to another dog. They show their teeth. They put

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their hackles up. They look at the dog sideways.

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They give them that whale eye. There's a lot

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of ways that dogs communicate just through their

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body language. Right. Ear positions. I always

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go to like checkers. And one of the little dogs

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we're working with now, it's like you can see

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like when they're uncomfortable, their ears kind

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of like point outwards and like go halfway back.

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But like you see Nala and people always think

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like she's unhappy because she like as soon as

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you start petting her, she like flattens her

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ears all the way back. But she's not upset. She's

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just like, yeah, I love that. That feels nice.

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So leave it, the command leave it, prevents fixation

00:17:56.279 --> 00:18:01.640
on dangerous or off -limit items. And ideally,

00:18:02.859 --> 00:18:08.339
it allows you a opportunity to prevent the dog

00:18:08.339 --> 00:18:12.440
from getting to that off -limits area, item,

00:18:12.500 --> 00:18:17.259
or whatever prior to them either reaching them

00:18:17.259 --> 00:18:20.259
or taking ownership of them. Oh yeah, because

00:18:20.259 --> 00:18:22.059
if you say leave it and the dog gets it, it's

00:18:22.059 --> 00:18:51.259
like you're backwards. can disengage the dog,

00:18:51.380 --> 00:18:58.700
you can prevent that resource guarding. Looking

00:18:58.700 --> 00:19:02.779
at my notes here real quick. So we want to start

00:19:02.779 --> 00:19:05.759
building cues. And we want to build those cues

00:19:05.759 --> 00:19:11.759
in order to build trust in the dog's mind that

00:19:11.759 --> 00:19:16.740
giving up those items first in the training session

00:19:16.740 --> 00:19:20.380
leads to a positive outcome. And so that's where

00:19:20.380 --> 00:19:23.059
those cues come into play. So I want to be like,

00:19:23.180 --> 00:19:27.059
leave it. Dog leaves it. And then boom, throwing

00:19:27.059 --> 00:19:32.500
or let me back up and boom, I'm rewarding the

00:19:32.500 --> 00:19:35.539
dog. Yeah. So that the dog is getting something

00:19:35.539 --> 00:19:40.619
of value that builds the repetition and the decision

00:19:40.619 --> 00:19:46.579
in their mind that leave it is a positive opportunity.

00:19:47.339 --> 00:19:50.750
Right. And then. working with drop it you work

00:19:50.750 --> 00:19:52.730
a lot of the times we work with play with drop

00:19:52.730 --> 00:19:55.430
because that's where you can kind of always start

00:19:55.430 --> 00:19:57.509
with a dog where it's safe for the dog to have

00:19:57.509 --> 00:19:59.690
something that they can drop but i think where

00:19:59.690 --> 00:20:03.349
people go wrong without knowing is you ask them

00:20:03.349 --> 00:20:05.750
to drop it and then when you're teaching that

00:20:05.750 --> 00:20:08.089
it's super important to immediately give it back

00:20:08.089 --> 00:20:11.009
to the dog as soon as they drop it yeah not making

00:20:11.009 --> 00:20:13.569
them wait because they've done what you asked,

00:20:13.750 --> 00:20:16.450
you immediately give it back. That's their reward

00:20:16.450 --> 00:20:19.289
for dropping it is getting to do it again. And

00:20:19.289 --> 00:20:23.289
that's what we're going to in just a couple of

00:20:23.289 --> 00:20:26.190
minutes, we're going to break down exactly my

00:20:26.190 --> 00:20:29.029
favorite way. And we'll talk about your favorite

00:20:29.029 --> 00:20:32.789
ways of, of actually teaching this. But right

00:20:32.789 --> 00:20:34.930
now we're just setting up all of the value for

00:20:34.930 --> 00:20:38.170
why is this important to you? And the last one

00:20:38.170 --> 00:20:42.170
that really goes along with that is that. We

00:20:42.170 --> 00:20:46.509
want to build emotional neutrality to the act

00:20:46.509 --> 00:20:50.650
of giving something up because that's really

00:20:50.650 --> 00:20:54.690
where that resource guarding part comes from.

00:20:55.349 --> 00:21:00.069
The guarding comes from the emotional attachment

00:21:00.069 --> 00:21:05.410
the dog has to the value in their item, whether

00:21:05.410 --> 00:21:09.170
that's food, a toy, a water bowl, a person, the

00:21:09.170 --> 00:21:12.900
couch, the bed, whatever. when they're like,

00:21:12.920 --> 00:21:17.980
Oh, I have this already. You're going to take

00:21:17.980 --> 00:21:21.940
it from me. And that is, I'm going to lose this.

00:21:23.519 --> 00:21:26.740
That's where that comes from. And so if we can

00:21:26.740 --> 00:21:29.339
build early on in the dog's life, we can show

00:21:29.339 --> 00:21:34.400
them that they can be emotionally neutral to

00:21:34.400 --> 00:21:39.750
losing an object because another very valuable

00:21:39.750 --> 00:21:42.549
object is going to come right in, but right behind

00:21:42.549 --> 00:21:46.210
it, we can reduce the likelihood that we ever

00:21:46.210 --> 00:21:51.990
get those resource garters. All right. I'm going

00:21:51.990 --> 00:21:54.690
to go right into it because we have, we've set

00:21:54.690 --> 00:21:58.529
this up. Now let's talk about how we do it. So

00:21:58.529 --> 00:22:08.150
teaching the drop it without conflict or, Destruction

00:22:08.150 --> 00:22:14.269
in the house. When we teach drop it, and I'll

00:22:14.269 --> 00:22:16.690
try to frame drop it first, and then we'll talk

00:22:16.690 --> 00:22:22.410
about leave it. So when I teach drop it, I like

00:22:22.410 --> 00:22:26.809
to teach it in the middle of play. And so the

00:22:26.809 --> 00:22:31.490
very first step I lay out in usually the very

00:22:31.490 --> 00:22:33.869
first private lesson that we do with clients.

00:22:35.500 --> 00:22:39.140
I lay out a game called, we just call it the

00:22:39.140 --> 00:22:45.259
get it free game. This is a game where I'm patterning

00:22:45.259 --> 00:22:50.380
the get it command and then I'm tossing like

00:22:50.380 --> 00:22:52.579
a treat or a reward or a piece of food or something

00:22:52.579 --> 00:22:56.640
across the floor. The dog runs to get it. As

00:22:56.640 --> 00:23:02.019
soon as they get the treat, I'm queuing free,

00:23:02.140 --> 00:23:06.529
which is our terminal reward marker. At that

00:23:06.529 --> 00:23:10.150
point there. So they ran away from me. They got

00:23:10.150 --> 00:23:12.309
the food and then I'm giving them free. They

00:23:12.309 --> 00:23:15.670
turn around and they zoom right back to me and

00:23:15.670 --> 00:23:18.289
then they get another treat. So you get a treat

00:23:18.289 --> 00:23:21.890
on both sides. That is how I'm going to start

00:23:21.890 --> 00:23:26.750
patterning eventually to incorporate like fetch

00:23:26.750 --> 00:23:32.569
because fetch the game fetch is how I'm going

00:23:32.569 --> 00:23:38.410
to initially. work with drop it so drop it or

00:23:38.410 --> 00:23:42.410
i'm sorry so the get it game allows me to do

00:23:42.410 --> 00:23:44.490
a couple of different things one i'm patterning

00:23:44.490 --> 00:23:51.490
pushing the dog away from me with value because

00:23:51.490 --> 00:23:54.329
when you first start training what you'll find

00:23:54.329 --> 00:23:58.170
is that that dog is going to zero in on you because

00:23:58.170 --> 00:24:00.630
you are the one who's continually giving them

00:24:00.630 --> 00:24:05.099
treats And sending a dog away from you on command

00:24:05.099 --> 00:24:08.259
is one of the most difficult things to train

00:24:08.259 --> 00:24:11.180
a dog to do. Because the more that you train,

00:24:11.299 --> 00:24:14.680
the more value they perceive in you. It's hard

00:24:14.680 --> 00:24:17.299
for them to be like, why would I want to go away

00:24:17.299 --> 00:24:21.299
from you? So that get it free game is a great

00:24:21.299 --> 00:24:24.039
opportunity to start patterning that movement

00:24:24.039 --> 00:24:27.380
away from you. All right. So we do that as a

00:24:27.380 --> 00:24:32.089
foundation. Then first step. We build value in

00:24:32.089 --> 00:24:34.990
the free. We charge up that marker so that I

00:24:34.990 --> 00:24:36.890
can always have that terminal reward marker.

00:24:37.089 --> 00:24:39.650
That's how I'm going to then reward to drop it

00:24:39.650 --> 00:24:45.630
later. The get it part is what I'm patterning

00:24:45.630 --> 00:24:48.609
in order to send the dog. And it's also the part

00:24:48.609 --> 00:24:52.470
that I'm going to replace with leave it later.

00:24:54.329 --> 00:24:59.009
So now second step, I'm going to adjust the game

00:24:59.009 --> 00:25:02.549
a little bit. I'm going to teach the leave it

00:25:02.549 --> 00:25:08.210
by one of two ways. I'm going to describe one,

00:25:08.309 --> 00:25:12.470
and Bree has another way that she likes to do

00:25:12.470 --> 00:25:17.849
it. So what I like to do for leave it, and I

00:25:17.849 --> 00:25:19.710
know I said I was going to pattern the drop it,

00:25:19.769 --> 00:25:21.769
but this is all kind of meshed together, so just

00:25:21.769 --> 00:25:24.549
bear with me. The way that I'm going to pattern

00:25:24.549 --> 00:25:28.369
leave it is I put the dog on a leash. I'm going

00:25:28.369 --> 00:25:31.980
to take a treat. Or something. And I'm going

00:25:31.980 --> 00:25:34.200
to calmly. I'm not going to zing it. Because

00:25:34.200 --> 00:25:37.400
movement creates value. So I'm just going to

00:25:37.400 --> 00:25:40.779
kind of drop the treat on the ground. Or off

00:25:40.779 --> 00:25:42.799
to the side. Just a little bit. And I'm going

00:25:42.799 --> 00:25:47.200
to pattern that. Leave it. Cue. When the dog

00:25:47.200 --> 00:25:49.500
tries to get it. I'm just going to hold them.

00:25:49.559 --> 00:25:52.299
I'm not correcting them on the leash. I'm just

00:25:52.299 --> 00:25:56.619
going to hold them. In that same spot. So as

00:25:56.619 --> 00:25:59.710
they go to get it. They turn on pressure. On

00:25:59.710 --> 00:26:05.349
the leash. And as they relax, the pressure automatically

00:26:05.349 --> 00:26:09.710
turns off. At the point where they leave it,

00:26:09.849 --> 00:26:16.130
I reward with a terminal marker. Free. And then

00:26:16.130 --> 00:26:18.789
offer them the reward in the opposite direction

00:26:18.789 --> 00:26:22.869
of the treat that I had dropped. And then as

00:26:22.869 --> 00:26:25.349
they get that treat, I reach down and I pick

00:26:25.349 --> 00:26:31.549
up the other treat. What this does is it keeps

00:26:31.549 --> 00:26:34.849
the dog from ever getting the treat that I said,

00:26:34.890 --> 00:26:39.549
leave it to. Yeah. That's really important because

00:26:39.549 --> 00:26:42.630
at the point where they get the treat that you

00:26:42.630 --> 00:26:46.910
say, leave it, they, you go back five or six

00:26:46.910 --> 00:26:50.109
steps. Yep. What's the other one that you use?

00:26:50.690 --> 00:26:53.650
For leave it? Yeah. I think it's the same method.

00:26:53.690 --> 00:26:56.349
I think it's just rewarding at me versus like

00:26:56.349 --> 00:27:01.299
on the ground. Yep. Um, just because I try, especially

00:27:01.299 --> 00:27:04.099
for dogs that are really scent driven, rewarding

00:27:04.099 --> 00:27:08.039
on the ground, they get lost in the ground after

00:27:08.039 --> 00:27:12.019
they get their reward. And even though you've

00:27:12.019 --> 00:27:14.039
picked it up on the other side, a lot of times

00:27:14.039 --> 00:27:15.660
if they're really scent driven and they like

00:27:15.660 --> 00:27:17.940
to sniff, they're going to just go check over

00:27:17.940 --> 00:27:20.319
there anyways. And then you're losing their attention

00:27:20.319 --> 00:27:23.039
for a little bit longer. So just rewarding at

00:27:23.039 --> 00:27:25.759
me versus on the ground. Gotcha. But still opposite.

00:27:26.410 --> 00:27:29.170
In like an opposite direction. Yeah. Yeah. Still

00:27:29.170 --> 00:27:29.990
in an opposite direction. Of what you told them

00:27:29.990 --> 00:27:34.529
to leave. Yep. Nice. Okay. So that's how we initially

00:27:34.529 --> 00:27:37.369
pattern the leave it. Then as you get it more

00:27:37.369 --> 00:27:41.349
and more brilliant in those, we always want to

00:27:41.349 --> 00:27:43.250
be brilliant in the basics. So we make sure we

00:27:43.250 --> 00:27:47.430
have that foundation. Then I can add in the leave

00:27:47.430 --> 00:27:50.529
it just like the get it free game. But instead

00:27:50.529 --> 00:27:57.759
of get it, I'm leave it. And. If the dog chases

00:27:57.759 --> 00:28:02.660
that treat that you zing, then they turn the

00:28:02.660 --> 00:28:06.920
pressure on. But a lot of times you'll see that

00:28:06.920 --> 00:28:08.759
they don't even go for it because they've already

00:28:08.759 --> 00:28:10.759
patterned this, right? They're like, oh, cool.

00:28:10.839 --> 00:28:13.420
That's a leave it. That's a leave it treat. Got

00:28:13.420 --> 00:28:16.220
it. Okay. I just got to wait. I just got to be

00:28:16.220 --> 00:28:18.980
patient. And then there's a free treat. Yep.

00:28:20.279 --> 00:28:23.980
At that point, you've broken through. Yeah. So

00:28:23.980 --> 00:28:26.920
now you've patterned leave it. And then you can

00:28:26.920 --> 00:28:29.960
start doing it with a toy. You can do it with

00:28:29.960 --> 00:28:31.740
a favorite toy. You can do it with something

00:28:31.740 --> 00:28:34.480
else of value, right? And now you're going leave

00:28:34.480 --> 00:28:40.720
it. And then when they do, free. Make them fly

00:28:40.720 --> 00:28:43.900
back to you. Go in the opposite direction. And

00:28:43.900 --> 00:28:46.019
then the most important thing is you just don't

00:28:46.019 --> 00:28:48.920
let them ever get what they're supposed to leave.

00:28:50.160 --> 00:28:53.339
I think that's really important. There are some

00:28:53.339 --> 00:28:57.599
trainers that just pattern the leave it off of

00:28:57.599 --> 00:29:04.880
they pattern it based on I just want you to leave

00:29:04.880 --> 00:29:07.259
it temporarily and then I'll let you have it.

00:29:07.319 --> 00:29:10.140
Right. And I don't like that. I think that that

00:29:10.140 --> 00:29:13.240
is much easier to explain to clients to just

00:29:13.240 --> 00:29:17.039
teach a dog wait. Right. Yeah. Use a different

00:29:17.039 --> 00:29:19.670
cue. And the reason I say that is because there

00:29:19.670 --> 00:29:22.190
are some things, I think it's really, really

00:29:22.190 --> 00:29:28.950
important to have a cue that tells the dog that

00:29:28.950 --> 00:29:35.630
they are not allowed to ever have that. Because

00:29:35.630 --> 00:29:41.390
what if it is a rattlesnake? What if it's a live

00:29:41.390 --> 00:29:44.750
electrical wire outside in the yard or in the

00:29:44.750 --> 00:29:47.670
park or somewhere where you're walking? What

00:29:47.670 --> 00:29:52.009
if it's another dog or a rabid raccoon or something,

00:29:52.190 --> 00:29:55.410
right? What if it is something that is dangerous

00:29:55.410 --> 00:30:02.190
for the dog? Yeah. You can't just tell the dog

00:30:02.190 --> 00:30:04.450
that, hey, I want you to leave this alone for

00:30:04.450 --> 00:30:09.109
like a little while. You need the dog to leave

00:30:09.109 --> 00:30:13.230
that for good. Yeah. And so that's why I think

00:30:13.230 --> 00:30:16.869
leave it should be a permanence. type marker

00:30:16.869 --> 00:30:20.990
yep you can follow that once you've trained that

00:30:20.990 --> 00:30:25.490
you can change the word to a weight or or any

00:30:25.490 --> 00:30:28.450
other word right dogs don't speak english but

00:30:28.450 --> 00:30:31.130
give the dog a weight and teach them cool weight

00:30:31.130 --> 00:30:34.650
means just be patient you're gonna get it in

00:30:34.650 --> 00:30:37.650
a minute yeah because that's how we can do it

00:30:37.650 --> 00:30:42.990
like with their food bowl weight free and then

00:30:42.990 --> 00:30:46.049
they get their food yep Um, I have no problem

00:30:46.049 --> 00:30:50.089
with that, but I think that you need a leave

00:30:50.089 --> 00:30:55.950
it command that is no fail. So that's the reason

00:30:55.950 --> 00:31:00.809
why we teach it that way. Okay. So we talked

00:31:00.809 --> 00:31:06.710
about the leave it. Let's add in here. Now drop

00:31:06.710 --> 00:31:11.230
it. So at the point where I've trained all of

00:31:11.230 --> 00:31:15.690
these pieces up to this point, Now I can pattern

00:31:15.690 --> 00:31:20.670
this with a toy and what I can do is I can throw

00:31:20.670 --> 00:31:23.690
the toy, right? And I've can alternate between

00:31:23.690 --> 00:31:29.710
leave it and get it with the toy. And as they

00:31:29.710 --> 00:31:38.750
get it, I give them free. Excuse me. So I give

00:31:38.750 --> 00:31:42.789
them free and they fly back to me nine times

00:31:42.789 --> 00:31:47.059
out of 10. it will be with the toy because that

00:31:47.059 --> 00:31:50.900
has value. And as they're coming back towards

00:31:50.900 --> 00:31:55.619
you, I can do a one -for -one swap with the treat

00:31:55.619 --> 00:31:59.759
because they're already patterned to come back

00:31:59.759 --> 00:32:03.200
and grab the treat. And what dogs will more than

00:32:03.200 --> 00:32:07.130
likely do is they'll run back with the toy. And

00:32:07.130 --> 00:32:08.569
I don't have to change a thing. I don't have

00:32:08.569 --> 00:32:10.490
to add any cues. I don't have to add any pressure.

00:32:10.589 --> 00:32:12.930
I don't have to change anything. And I offer

00:32:12.930 --> 00:32:15.930
them that treat and they drop what they had.

00:32:17.670 --> 00:32:21.809
And they go for the treat. Yep. And as that happens.

00:32:22.990 --> 00:32:26.450
I know there's a lot of steps here. This is dog

00:32:26.450 --> 00:32:30.950
training, right? So as that happens and they

00:32:30.950 --> 00:32:34.849
go to drop it, I'm watching that. And as they

00:32:34.849 --> 00:32:38.039
do it. I hit him with the drop at cue. Yeah.

00:32:39.200 --> 00:32:42.440
Right off the bat, I start naming the actual

00:32:42.440 --> 00:32:49.660
behavior as they're doing it. So get it, throw

00:32:49.660 --> 00:32:52.819
the ball. They run out there. They grab the ball

00:32:52.819 --> 00:32:56.960
free. They run back to me. I offer them the treat.

00:32:57.079 --> 00:33:03.309
I watch them as they. go to or as they approach

00:33:03.309 --> 00:33:06.069
me right they get in that closer proximity then

00:33:06.069 --> 00:33:08.170
they're starting to open their mouth i know they're

00:33:08.170 --> 00:33:11.289
going to drop the ball i go drop it and then

00:33:11.289 --> 00:33:16.210
offer them the treat that starts to pattern the

00:33:16.210 --> 00:33:21.809
cue at the right appropriate time yeah once we've

00:33:21.809 --> 00:33:28.920
patterned that what i want to do is I want to

00:33:28.920 --> 00:33:33.700
re -engage them quickly. This is the golden egg

00:33:33.700 --> 00:33:40.279
here because they just dropped something of value

00:33:40.279 --> 00:33:46.339
and that's not going to be permanent. They dropped

00:33:46.339 --> 00:33:49.579
it in order to get something else. What you need

00:33:49.579 --> 00:33:51.400
to do is you need to retrieve it and you need

00:33:51.400 --> 00:33:54.039
to make it come alive again and go right back

00:33:54.039 --> 00:33:58.089
into the next repetition. Because they need to

00:33:58.089 --> 00:34:02.289
see that, hey, just because I dropped this thing

00:34:02.289 --> 00:34:06.349
of value doesn't mean that it's gone forever.

00:34:06.589 --> 00:34:11.610
Yeah. It's just how we play the game. You reengage

00:34:11.610 --> 00:34:16.429
them and you start all over. Okay. Now let's

00:34:16.429 --> 00:34:19.489
talk about another way to do this. My favorite

00:34:19.489 --> 00:34:26.320
way to reinforce, drop it. is after I've done

00:34:26.320 --> 00:34:28.880
those things, my favorite way is to reinforce

00:34:28.880 --> 00:34:35.280
it with tug because tug is a heck of a fun game

00:34:35.280 --> 00:34:41.119
for dogs when they've learned it and when you

00:34:41.119 --> 00:34:45.039
do it the right way. So one, we want to play

00:34:45.039 --> 00:34:47.440
tug. We need to do a whole podcast episode on

00:34:47.440 --> 00:34:51.320
just play. But when we play tug, we want the

00:34:51.320 --> 00:34:56.300
tug, we want the toy to come alive. And the way

00:34:56.300 --> 00:34:58.300
that we make it come alive is through movement

00:34:58.300 --> 00:35:01.840
and through movement away from them. One of the

00:35:01.840 --> 00:35:04.320
number one mistakes people make is they take

00:35:04.320 --> 00:35:06.920
this tug toy and then they shove it in the dog's

00:35:06.920 --> 00:35:09.500
face and they're like, get it, come on, get it.

00:35:09.940 --> 00:35:14.179
And the dog's like, whoa, I don't, this is uncomfortable.

00:35:17.199 --> 00:35:21.119
You got to do the opposite. You have to get it

00:35:21.119 --> 00:35:25.559
and then be like, ha, ha, ha, here. And it goes

00:35:25.559 --> 00:35:28.739
away from them. And that's how you get that dog

00:35:28.739 --> 00:35:30.679
to ramp up. Because we've got to turn on prey

00:35:30.679 --> 00:35:35.139
drive. We've got to turn on that fun, chase it,

00:35:35.179 --> 00:35:38.699
I've got to catch it game. Because remember,

00:35:38.920 --> 00:35:41.480
that's dog's number one favorite game. Catch

00:35:41.480 --> 00:35:43.920
me if you can. You've got to switch it up on

00:35:43.920 --> 00:35:49.309
him. So we engage him with that. They latch on.

00:35:49.630 --> 00:35:52.230
We're playing. We're tugging. We're having fun.

00:35:53.210 --> 00:35:55.190
I'm certain that there's some people listening.

00:35:55.269 --> 00:35:56.929
They're like, oh, my dog won't play tug. Okay,

00:35:56.989 --> 00:35:58.730
cool. Well, there's some ways that you can get

00:35:58.730 --> 00:36:00.969
them in there. That's not really the purpose

00:36:00.969 --> 00:36:08.110
of this podcast. But hit me up offline and we

00:36:08.110 --> 00:36:10.210
can discuss it. I'll give you some tips on that.

00:36:11.650 --> 00:36:15.969
So dog latches onto the tug. Now I'm playing,

00:36:16.090 --> 00:36:19.510
I'm playing, I'm playing, I'm moving around and

00:36:19.510 --> 00:36:23.309
I'm also using my voice and I'm engaging them.

00:36:23.389 --> 00:36:26.050
I'm like, yeah, yeah, good job, good job, good

00:36:26.050 --> 00:36:34.670
job. And then I cue drop and freeze. The reason

00:36:34.670 --> 00:36:37.730
I do that is because one, I've already patterned

00:36:37.730 --> 00:36:40.570
the drop it. So I kind of understand it, but

00:36:40.570 --> 00:36:42.590
now is where we really like make the breakthrough.

00:36:45.260 --> 00:36:49.039
And at the point where I'm encouraging them and

00:36:49.039 --> 00:36:51.360
pulling them around and we're having all this

00:36:51.360 --> 00:36:54.239
fun and then suddenly I'm like, drop it. And

00:36:54.239 --> 00:36:57.440
I freeze. They're probably going to keep tugging

00:36:57.440 --> 00:37:00.280
on it for a minute. They're tug, tug, tug, tug.

00:37:00.639 --> 00:37:05.340
Cool. I just hold strong and don't move. And

00:37:05.340 --> 00:37:08.039
what ends up happening is the dog's like, oh,

00:37:08.119 --> 00:37:12.099
why did the toy die? Why did this die? What's

00:37:12.099 --> 00:37:14.920
different? Oh, all of a sudden this changed.

00:37:15.059 --> 00:37:16.860
And then they start paying attention to the word

00:37:16.860 --> 00:37:20.260
and they're like, Oh, this is, I'm supposed to

00:37:20.260 --> 00:37:25.300
like do something here. Yeah. At the point where

00:37:25.300 --> 00:37:29.679
they, so now you hold it in place and if they

00:37:29.679 --> 00:37:32.400
just won't drop it, that's where you reach and

00:37:32.400 --> 00:37:36.139
you introduce another reward of high value and

00:37:36.139 --> 00:37:40.440
you trade them. And as you trade them, they let

00:37:40.440 --> 00:37:43.650
go. You give them that treat, and you immediately

00:37:43.650 --> 00:37:47.750
give them free, and now the game, I'm sorry,

00:37:47.809 --> 00:37:52.889
now the reward is that tug. Yep. So free, and

00:37:52.889 --> 00:37:56.349
they grab the toy again. And oh, good job, good

00:37:56.349 --> 00:37:59.050
job, good job. Oh, we're having so much fun.

00:37:59.349 --> 00:38:04.309
Drop it. And I freeze. It only takes a couple

00:38:04.309 --> 00:38:07.369
of times for the dog to go, oh, if I let go of

00:38:07.369 --> 00:38:10.250
this, then the game starts again. Right. Yep.

00:38:10.909 --> 00:38:13.530
And at the point where the dog realizes that

00:38:13.530 --> 00:38:18.650
drop it, the faster that they drop it, the faster

00:38:18.650 --> 00:38:23.809
the game starts again, you're golden. Yeah. At

00:38:23.809 --> 00:38:27.469
that point, you're good. That's when the dog's

00:38:27.469 --> 00:38:30.710
like, yeah, tell me to drop it. Tell me to drop

00:38:30.710 --> 00:38:34.690
it. Yeah. Because the reinitializing of the game

00:38:34.690 --> 00:38:37.750
is more fun than the continuation of the game.

00:38:39.920 --> 00:38:43.619
Because there's anticipation. Right. Yep. They're

00:38:43.619 --> 00:38:47.960
excited to do it. Yeah. All right. So when a

00:38:47.960 --> 00:38:53.539
couple of top tips. So when we say drop it, say

00:38:53.539 --> 00:38:57.019
it once. Say it once. Say it loud for the people

00:38:57.019 --> 00:39:01.360
in the back. And then just pause. Let your dog

00:39:01.360 --> 00:39:06.940
have a chance to actually process and decide,

00:39:07.019 --> 00:39:13.349
make a decision. to drop it yeah so many times

00:39:13.349 --> 00:39:17.210
is the reason the dog doesn't do what you say

00:39:17.210 --> 00:39:21.050
to do is because in every other decision that

00:39:21.050 --> 00:39:23.610
the dog makes throughout the day you've decided

00:39:23.610 --> 00:39:26.590
for the dog what they're going to do and when

00:39:26.590 --> 00:39:28.449
they're going to do it and you never let them

00:39:28.449 --> 00:39:31.559
practice making the decision Right. Or you've

00:39:31.559 --> 00:39:34.320
told them 12 times. And so on the 12th time,

00:39:34.400 --> 00:39:37.059
they've decided to do it. But by the 12th time,

00:39:37.099 --> 00:39:38.699
you've given them body language and everything

00:39:38.699 --> 00:39:45.820
else. So that's helped. Yep. So anytime we can

00:39:45.820 --> 00:39:51.980
prioritize letting the dog make the right decision,

00:39:52.420 --> 00:39:59.139
we have to do that. Yeah. Give the dog a moment.

00:39:59.800 --> 00:40:04.840
to process, think about, and decide to do the

00:40:04.840 --> 00:40:11.699
right thing. And you will be amazed at how much

00:40:11.699 --> 00:40:14.840
better the dog listens on all the different things.

00:40:14.980 --> 00:40:16.679
There's two dogs that I'm working with right

00:40:16.679 --> 00:40:18.880
now, and the stare -offs that we have sometimes

00:40:18.880 --> 00:40:23.159
are intense. And they'd be awkward if it were

00:40:23.159 --> 00:40:26.000
a human. But it's just me and the dog, so it's

00:40:26.000 --> 00:40:28.659
not as awkward. But sometimes we just stare at

00:40:28.659 --> 00:40:30.480
each other, but I'm giving them an opportunity

00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:34.639
to think through what I ask them to do and give

00:40:34.639 --> 00:40:39.900
them that chance to do it. Yeah. Another tip,

00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:45.750
reward away from the object, right? What we don't

00:40:45.750 --> 00:40:48.670
want to do is rip the object away and make the

00:40:48.670 --> 00:40:51.030
object come alive. The other thing we don't want

00:40:51.030 --> 00:40:53.309
to do is rip the object away and then try to

00:40:53.309 --> 00:40:56.769
distract the dog with something else of value

00:40:56.769 --> 00:40:59.210
while you still have the other valuable thing

00:40:59.210 --> 00:41:01.809
and they're very close together. Because that

00:41:01.809 --> 00:41:05.789
builds confusion. So instead, at the point where

00:41:05.789 --> 00:41:07.809
they drop something, maybe you put your foot

00:41:07.809 --> 00:41:11.650
on it. Maybe you just let it lay on the ground

00:41:11.650 --> 00:41:16.380
and you reward the dog away from it. Then you

00:41:16.380 --> 00:41:19.280
scoop that thing up and you re -engage the game.

00:41:21.619 --> 00:41:26.579
Another one, avoid kind of what I just said,

00:41:26.659 --> 00:41:31.639
but avoid pulling the object out of the dog's

00:41:31.639 --> 00:41:36.539
mouth because that's going to really ramp up

00:41:36.539 --> 00:41:38.480
that drive. Right, and I think we've talked about

00:41:38.480 --> 00:41:41.340
toys for a little bit, but like in the last comment

00:41:41.340 --> 00:41:44.519
was like re -engage the dog, right? treating

00:41:44.519 --> 00:41:46.960
the dog away from whatever you're taking if it's

00:41:46.960 --> 00:41:49.599
not something of right if it's not something

00:41:49.599 --> 00:41:51.639
that you can like re -engage the dog then you're

00:41:51.639 --> 00:41:54.139
just rewarding the dog away from that item so

00:41:54.139 --> 00:41:56.880
that you can pick the item up yeah and then also

00:41:56.880 --> 00:41:59.400
with the pulling out of its mouth right we always

00:41:59.400 --> 00:42:03.059
you know you see all these videos of just like

00:42:03.059 --> 00:42:06.820
people like pulling shoes and towels and things

00:42:06.820 --> 00:42:08.980
that dogs pick up just like out of the dog's

00:42:08.980 --> 00:42:12.699
mouth and I always try to tell my clients and

00:42:12.699 --> 00:42:16.639
people it's like just walk the dog away from

00:42:16.639 --> 00:42:19.679
the item. Yep. All right. So let's give an example

00:42:19.679 --> 00:42:23.599
of that. Dexter's another really good example

00:42:23.599 --> 00:42:27.300
of this. So Dexter loves to go and grab the dog

00:42:27.300 --> 00:42:30.380
towels. We have a lot of dogs going in and out

00:42:30.380 --> 00:42:33.539
of the house sometimes, right? And sometimes

00:42:33.539 --> 00:42:36.460
it rains. And so you've got kind of this like

00:42:36.460 --> 00:42:40.519
pile of. You're not as nice towels down there

00:42:40.519 --> 00:42:44.139
in the corner. And Dexter loves, especially first

00:42:44.139 --> 00:42:47.800
thing in the morning, he is ramped up, ready

00:42:47.800 --> 00:42:50.099
to go, choosing violence first thing in the morning.

00:42:50.119 --> 00:42:54.460
And he runs over and grabs a towel out of that

00:42:54.460 --> 00:42:57.099
thing and just bunches it all up and then just

00:42:57.099 --> 00:43:00.980
prances around with it. Loves to have the towel.

00:43:01.679 --> 00:43:07.750
Now, we have never... played with him with that

00:43:07.750 --> 00:43:12.130
towel so nothing happens because there's never

00:43:12.130 --> 00:43:18.769
there's never any like satisfying event that

00:43:18.769 --> 00:43:24.150
becomes around this towel instead he grabs the

00:43:24.150 --> 00:43:27.710
towel he goes on a little lap i stand by the

00:43:27.710 --> 00:43:34.710
door and i wait then he comes over to me right

00:43:35.050 --> 00:43:38.210
I put a hand on his collar, just like his flat

00:43:38.210 --> 00:43:41.110
collar that he normally wears, and I don't put

00:43:41.110 --> 00:43:44.809
any pressure on it. I just hold it. Now I've

00:43:44.809 --> 00:43:47.409
taken away the ability for him to run around.

00:43:47.630 --> 00:43:50.929
I waited until he approached me. I've grabbed

00:43:50.929 --> 00:43:55.570
the collar, and now I just say, drop it. We use

00:43:55.570 --> 00:44:01.690
aus, which is the German drop it. And then I

00:44:01.690 --> 00:44:05.840
wait. He drops it. and then I open the door for

00:44:05.840 --> 00:44:09.420
him to go outside. But that is a process that

00:44:09.420 --> 00:44:15.079
has been built by him understanding that I can't

00:44:15.079 --> 00:44:17.719
go outside with the towel, and I actually want

00:44:17.719 --> 00:44:23.079
both. So now instead of me using a treat to give

00:44:23.079 --> 00:44:27.679
him to release the towel, it's simply the freedom

00:44:27.679 --> 00:44:29.760
of going outside. Well, you can't take the towel

00:44:29.760 --> 00:44:34.750
out there, so drop it. He drops it. Cool. Go

00:44:34.750 --> 00:44:42.050
outside. Yep. That is an example. Another example,

00:44:42.090 --> 00:44:46.449
real quick. We've had clients talk about like

00:44:46.449 --> 00:44:52.110
TV remotes. That's been a thing. So TV remote.

00:44:52.929 --> 00:44:55.849
Why would a dog go after a TV remote in the first

00:44:55.849 --> 00:45:01.690
place? Because that is an object that the dog

00:45:01.690 --> 00:45:06.260
sees. us interact with and so they perceive value

00:45:06.260 --> 00:45:09.480
in it yep it's not because the tv remote ever

00:45:09.480 --> 00:45:12.019
like did anything for them they're just like

00:45:12.019 --> 00:45:16.219
oh this is this is a good thing yeah i want this

00:45:16.219 --> 00:45:22.139
now initially the first time the dog goes and

00:45:22.139 --> 00:45:25.980
gets it there's no value really there anyway

00:45:25.980 --> 00:45:29.880
but the dog created that value because when they

00:45:29.880 --> 00:45:33.769
get it Everything stops in the house and everyone

00:45:33.769 --> 00:45:38.349
chases the dog or at least suddenly the dog goes

00:45:38.349 --> 00:45:40.989
up like three or four levels in importance because

00:45:40.989 --> 00:45:44.030
you're like, whoa, wait, no, don't grab that.

00:45:45.409 --> 00:45:50.449
So we have to lower the value. And the only way

00:45:50.449 --> 00:45:52.670
to do that, even though it's something that you're

00:45:52.670 --> 00:45:55.730
like, oh, please don't destroy this. You have

00:45:55.730 --> 00:46:01.670
to show the dog. That there's nothing valuable

00:46:01.670 --> 00:46:06.829
there. You have to. And so you've got to stay

00:46:06.829 --> 00:46:11.090
calm. You've got to redirect the dog. And in

00:46:11.090 --> 00:46:13.610
this case, I'd go to the door and be like, cool,

00:46:13.710 --> 00:46:16.449
let's go. Let's go outside. Cool. You want to

00:46:16.449 --> 00:46:18.010
go for a walk? You want to do this? You want

00:46:18.010 --> 00:46:20.070
to do that? Whatever it is. But I'm going to

00:46:20.070 --> 00:46:24.309
redirect that dog's energy until they get close

00:46:24.309 --> 00:46:27.289
enough that I can get a hold of them. Right.

00:46:27.739 --> 00:46:30.980
My dogs wear flat collars, so that's just an

00:46:30.980 --> 00:46:34.960
easy grab. And then now you have control that

00:46:34.960 --> 00:46:36.719
that dog's not going to go anywhere. And now

00:46:36.719 --> 00:46:39.480
you can just be patient. You can be like, nope,

00:46:39.599 --> 00:46:43.900
drop. And at the point where they drop it, you

00:46:43.900 --> 00:46:49.699
throw a huge party. You don't just go, all right,

00:46:49.699 --> 00:46:52.940
now that crisis is over. How dare you? I can't

00:46:52.940 --> 00:46:54.980
believe that you grabbed that. Don't you ever

00:46:54.980 --> 00:46:59.099
grab that again. You can't do that. Because even

00:46:59.099 --> 00:47:04.260
that negative attention is still a rise in your

00:47:04.260 --> 00:47:08.039
arousal levels in the terms and the view of the

00:47:08.039 --> 00:47:12.860
dog. And you reinforced how important that remote

00:47:12.860 --> 00:47:17.980
was. And we've seen that with replace the remote

00:47:17.980 --> 00:47:21.940
with anything, right? Slippers, shoes. Shoes

00:47:21.940 --> 00:47:28.150
are a big one. Pillows. blankets, you know, it's

00:47:28.150 --> 00:47:33.469
almost always things that we find valuable. It's

00:47:33.469 --> 00:47:36.389
rarely like, oh, the dog went over there and

00:47:36.389 --> 00:47:40.250
grabbed that encyclopedia with all the dust on

00:47:40.250 --> 00:47:43.690
it off of the bookcase, right? They didn't do

00:47:43.690 --> 00:47:46.190
that. You know why? Because they didn't even

00:47:46.190 --> 00:47:48.409
know it existed over there because you never

00:47:48.409 --> 00:47:52.469
look at it. Yeah. So it's always the things that

00:47:52.469 --> 00:47:55.750
are valuable that the dog goes after. But that's

00:47:55.750 --> 00:47:58.150
because they've watched you. Yeah. They're just

00:47:58.150 --> 00:48:00.289
laying over there just watching you, figuring

00:48:00.289 --> 00:48:04.130
out what is valuable and what's not. Yeah. All

00:48:04.130 --> 00:48:10.570
right. I think we have crushed that. Yep. So

00:48:10.570 --> 00:48:14.530
let's talk about the last point. So let's kind

00:48:14.530 --> 00:48:16.869
of put it all together. So teaching leave it

00:48:16.869 --> 00:48:19.960
prevents. Dangerous choices. Now let's put this

00:48:19.960 --> 00:48:26.579
together with the guarding parts. By teaching

00:48:26.579 --> 00:48:31.219
leave it early on and patterning it, you've built

00:48:31.219 --> 00:48:33.739
value in the command. You've built value in the

00:48:33.739 --> 00:48:37.119
cue. And you've redirected value of things that

00:48:37.119 --> 00:48:40.650
the dog found valuable in the first place. But

00:48:40.650 --> 00:48:43.309
you've shown them that it's not just the value

00:48:43.309 --> 00:48:45.550
of the object, but it's the value of the relationship

00:48:45.550 --> 00:48:48.210
that they have with you. Like, cool, you drop

00:48:48.210 --> 00:48:50.829
it and you get a party. Yeah. You drop it and

00:48:50.829 --> 00:48:52.829
then suddenly mom and dad want to play with you.

00:48:54.489 --> 00:48:57.429
So often we don't do that. We don't follow through.

00:48:57.590 --> 00:48:59.789
And so it's like, cool, I dropped it and then

00:48:59.789 --> 00:49:01.889
nothing happened. They just walked away. Yeah.

00:49:02.210 --> 00:49:04.269
And at that point they're like, well, I'm never

00:49:04.269 --> 00:49:07.599
dropping that again. Yeah, I did not win here.

00:49:07.699 --> 00:49:10.099
I didn't win. Yeah, there was no excitement.

00:49:10.659 --> 00:49:16.059
Yep. So keep that in mind. Don't miss the boat

00:49:16.059 --> 00:49:17.840
there. Right, and it's not just like the first

00:49:17.840 --> 00:49:20.239
few times, right? You have to build that over

00:49:20.239 --> 00:49:23.619
time with your dog. You can't just do it a few

00:49:23.619 --> 00:49:25.800
times, do it for a week. You can't even just

00:49:25.800 --> 00:49:29.960
do it for a month. You have to just make it a

00:49:29.960 --> 00:49:32.260
repetitive thing that you're showing your dog

00:49:32.260 --> 00:49:34.320
every time. They can trust that you have the

00:49:34.320 --> 00:49:39.300
same response. And the same like stability in

00:49:39.300 --> 00:49:43.179
what you're doing and asking them to do. Yeah.

00:49:43.400 --> 00:49:45.940
So where we want to go with this is we want to

00:49:45.940 --> 00:49:52.960
start introducing leave it with the get it and

00:49:52.960 --> 00:49:58.500
the chase it type behaviors. Because that's where

00:49:58.500 --> 00:50:02.519
you're most likely to actually use it. You're

00:50:02.519 --> 00:50:05.829
most likely to use a leave it. A no fail leave

00:50:05.829 --> 00:50:09.570
it when the dog either gets something of value

00:50:09.570 --> 00:50:12.989
that they're not supposed to have or they're

00:50:12.989 --> 00:50:23.489
chasing something. Yep. So remember that we always

00:50:23.489 --> 00:50:27.230
tell everyone that you will be far more successful

00:50:27.230 --> 00:50:32.429
teaching the dog what to do rather than what

00:50:32.429 --> 00:50:41.860
not to do. And more often than not, when a dog

00:50:41.860 --> 00:50:48.079
is chasing something, people go into immediate

00:50:48.079 --> 00:50:53.380
panic and, no, no, we're not going to do that.

00:50:53.440 --> 00:50:59.239
No, don't do that. No. And it's like, you're

00:50:59.239 --> 00:51:03.550
fighting an uphill battle, right? One. In the

00:51:03.550 --> 00:51:08.090
middle or the heat of the chase, it is too late

00:51:08.090 --> 00:51:13.409
to get the training in. It has to be done beforehand.

00:51:13.849 --> 00:51:18.489
Two, you need to always be prepared and have

00:51:18.489 --> 00:51:23.250
a strategy and an out for when something unexpected

00:51:23.250 --> 00:51:28.789
like that happens. Three, you have to, prior

00:51:28.789 --> 00:51:32.269
to that event, you have to build value. in some

00:51:32.269 --> 00:51:36.510
other behavior that involves them returning to

00:51:36.510 --> 00:51:41.690
you. And it's not just recall. But by patterning

00:51:41.690 --> 00:51:45.250
leave it with a huge reward and a huge party,

00:51:45.369 --> 00:51:52.070
you now have the option of disengaging a dog

00:51:52.070 --> 00:51:57.010
from something else of value in order to achieve

00:51:57.010 --> 00:52:02.599
something that they perceive valuable. Instead

00:52:02.599 --> 00:52:07.739
of just, cool, leave that $100 bill over there

00:52:07.739 --> 00:52:11.639
and just come over here for nothing. For nothing.

00:52:11.719 --> 00:52:15.059
For free. Yeah, for free. Right? Even humans

00:52:15.059 --> 00:52:17.280
will be like, no, no, no, hold on a second. I'm

00:52:17.280 --> 00:52:19.380
going to get the $100 first. Right. We don't

00:52:19.380 --> 00:52:24.019
like to do stuff for free. No. So without motivation,

00:52:24.480 --> 00:52:26.500
the dog's not going to listen. Even a competition

00:52:26.500 --> 00:52:29.360
trained dog isn't going to listen without value.

00:52:29.440 --> 00:52:32.980
It's just. the value changes with the more training

00:52:32.980 --> 00:52:37.380
that you put in. So now the dog finds value in

00:52:37.380 --> 00:52:40.300
the anticipation of the reward or they find value

00:52:40.300 --> 00:52:42.400
in the relationship that they have with you or

00:52:42.400 --> 00:52:46.440
they find value in how excited you are when they

00:52:46.440 --> 00:52:53.199
do the right thing. Those things add up to the

00:52:53.199 --> 00:52:55.739
amount of motivation that they need in order

00:52:55.739 --> 00:52:57.539
to come back from something highly distracting.

00:52:58.800 --> 00:53:02.699
But by itself, forget about it. It's not going

00:53:02.699 --> 00:53:11.800
to work. Nope. All right. How, let's go through

00:53:11.800 --> 00:53:15.719
a couple of questions. So what are, what are,

00:53:15.800 --> 00:53:19.699
we talked about the early signs of some resource

00:53:19.699 --> 00:53:24.380
guarding. What are some early signs? that are

00:53:24.380 --> 00:53:27.340
good news right that the that show that the dog

00:53:27.340 --> 00:53:34.219
understands disengagement um i think early on

00:53:34.219 --> 00:53:37.199
it's responding to the like free and coming back

00:53:37.199 --> 00:53:40.039
to you that's a really big one if your dog isn't

00:53:40.039 --> 00:53:43.199
recognizing or like coming back to you at a fast

00:53:43.199 --> 00:53:44.800
pace then they're not understanding that the

00:53:44.800 --> 00:53:47.239
reward is there when they get back to you yeah

00:53:47.239 --> 00:53:51.739
so one pitfall to watch for is right the dog

00:53:52.809 --> 00:53:56.989
the dog that just like merrily trots back versus

00:53:56.989 --> 00:54:01.690
the dog that's like, yeah, I want to get over

00:54:01.690 --> 00:54:05.250
there. Yeah. That can be a telltale sign that

00:54:05.250 --> 00:54:09.130
you're missing out on the motivation side. Not

00:54:09.130 --> 00:54:12.190
all dogs are going to just run full tilt for.

00:54:13.199 --> 00:54:16.360
a piece of free dried salmon yeah we love using

00:54:16.360 --> 00:54:19.719
salmon and they we have a couple of dogs that

00:54:19.719 --> 00:54:23.599
will that will jump through jagged glass windows

00:54:23.599 --> 00:54:27.980
for salmon yeah and other dogs are like okay

00:54:27.980 --> 00:54:35.579
yeah this is all right um so the reward's not

00:54:35.579 --> 00:54:37.880
always going to be the same you got to find what

00:54:37.880 --> 00:54:42.199
your dog is motivated by But the things that

00:54:42.199 --> 00:54:45.579
we look for that we are on the right track is

00:54:45.579 --> 00:54:49.400
when you can break the dog's concentration off

00:54:49.400 --> 00:54:54.679
of an event. Yeah. So first start with something

00:54:54.679 --> 00:54:58.940
that the dog kind of likes and break their attention.

00:54:59.960 --> 00:55:02.559
Just their attention without even movement. Then

00:55:02.559 --> 00:55:06.179
get them to come back to you rather than get

00:55:06.179 --> 00:55:12.139
it. Then add movement to the item of relative

00:55:12.139 --> 00:55:15.460
average value. Add some movement to it. Zing

00:55:15.460 --> 00:55:19.340
that sucker across the room. And then call them

00:55:19.340 --> 00:55:24.239
back. And then finally add in some other item

00:55:24.239 --> 00:55:28.380
that's of even higher value. And then just build

00:55:28.380 --> 00:55:33.039
from there. That's what you need to do. Let me

00:55:33.039 --> 00:55:38.159
look. Wise leave it considered one of the most

00:55:38.159 --> 00:55:42.699
important safety skills. This one's pretty easy.

00:55:43.239 --> 00:55:46.280
Because of cars. Right. That's where I go to

00:55:46.280 --> 00:55:49.940
immediately, right? Dogs that are off leash and

00:55:49.940 --> 00:55:56.019
inevitably they don't look both ways. They're

00:55:56.019 --> 00:55:57.559
just like kids, right? They don't look both ways.

00:55:58.840 --> 00:56:02.760
If they are chasing a rabbit, a fox, a squirrel,

00:56:02.980 --> 00:56:06.000
whatever, they don't care about anything else.

00:56:06.059 --> 00:56:09.000
And unfortunately, we see it all the time on

00:56:09.000 --> 00:56:13.440
Facebook of dogs that unfortunately, because

00:56:13.440 --> 00:56:16.500
we live by kind of a big highway, they get hit

00:56:16.500 --> 00:56:27.199
by cars. And so Leave It is the basis for strengthening

00:56:27.199 --> 00:56:31.079
the recall. Yeah. Right. Recall is important.

00:56:31.139 --> 00:56:33.940
We talked about recall, but in a previous episode,

00:56:34.019 --> 00:56:38.320
but leave it is the part that disengages the

00:56:38.320 --> 00:56:43.539
dog from something, even just temporarily so

00:56:43.539 --> 00:56:50.019
that then your recall has a better chance. And

00:56:50.019 --> 00:56:56.250
the follow on to that is. the reason why leave

00:56:56.250 --> 00:56:58.050
it is so important is because there's dangerous

00:56:58.050 --> 00:57:01.630
stuff out there that there's other dogs that

00:57:01.630 --> 00:57:05.550
will attack your dog. There are snakes. There

00:57:05.550 --> 00:57:11.750
are, I don't know. I always think of like you

00:57:11.750 --> 00:57:13.969
dropping like human food in the kitchen that.

00:57:14.400 --> 00:57:16.380
Dogs can't have their dangers. Cool. I was going

00:57:16.380 --> 00:57:19.380
like way high up with that. But yeah, that's

00:57:19.380 --> 00:57:22.119
also a good one, right? Let's go to more normal

00:57:22.119 --> 00:57:24.639
things. Everyday life. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:57:24.800 --> 00:57:28.119
Name a couple. Oh, that was the only one I had.

00:57:28.260 --> 00:57:31.079
Okay, so food. Yeah, drumming medications. Right.

00:57:31.099 --> 00:57:34.719
You have a kid at home and they spill, you know.

00:57:36.079 --> 00:57:39.039
or they drop food that maybe the dog's not even

00:57:39.039 --> 00:57:41.280
supposed to have. Maybe they have an allergy

00:57:41.280 --> 00:57:47.420
to it. Maybe it's a toxic food to dogs. All of

00:57:47.420 --> 00:57:50.179
those things are reasons why leave it would be

00:57:50.179 --> 00:57:53.960
super important. And unfortunately, a lot of

00:57:53.960 --> 00:57:58.260
owners on that food trend, a lot of owners are

00:57:58.260 --> 00:58:02.219
like, oh, well, we... When I'm finished with

00:58:02.219 --> 00:58:05.960
my food, I just toss the other bits on the ground.

00:58:06.460 --> 00:58:08.500
Well, when you're doing that, you're patterning

00:58:08.500 --> 00:58:11.920
the dog to just get those because you're not

00:58:11.920 --> 00:58:14.519
even using really a command for it. Right. And

00:58:14.519 --> 00:58:16.500
whatever's on the ground is the dog's. Right.

00:58:16.519 --> 00:58:19.019
And then that goes back into this whole other

00:58:19.019 --> 00:58:21.679
thing. So if you're going to do that, make sure

00:58:21.679 --> 00:58:23.880
that you're using some sort of a weight type

00:58:23.880 --> 00:58:29.000
command so that you have control over that situation.

00:58:29.320 --> 00:58:32.670
Yeah. rather than just allowing the dog to impulsively

00:58:32.670 --> 00:58:39.369
get it. All right. So I've got listener projects

00:58:39.369 --> 00:58:44.809
coming up here. I'm going to unmute the Zoom

00:58:44.809 --> 00:58:51.010
call here and set up my little Jeopardy music.

00:58:51.550 --> 00:58:56.119
If we have anybody with questions or... things

00:58:56.119 --> 00:58:58.699
that either we talked about or stuff that's going

00:58:58.699 --> 00:59:00.599
on with your dog that kind of relates to the

00:59:00.599 --> 00:59:04.519
leave it and stuff. Now is your chance to unmute

00:59:04.519 --> 00:59:10.860
and ask away. See if I can get my jeopardy music

00:59:10.860 --> 00:59:17.559
on here. Does anybody who is listening have any

00:59:17.559 --> 00:59:28.800
questions? Ah, got it. Hey, Therese. Is it okay

00:59:28.800 --> 00:59:31.480
to talk? Yep, absolutely. I'll turn the music

00:59:31.480 --> 00:59:36.679
down for you. As you know, Hiroshi learned the

00:59:36.679 --> 00:59:42.360
leave it and take it command every time he eats.

00:59:43.960 --> 00:59:46.659
Now, with that leave it, he's expecting to get

00:59:46.659 --> 00:59:49.360
a reward usually afterwards, which is he gets

00:59:49.360 --> 00:59:52.199
his food. Yep. Should I try and reverse that

00:59:52.199 --> 00:59:55.940
then? No. Um, at the point where you've already

00:59:55.940 --> 00:59:59.079
trained that maybe use a different command for

00:59:59.079 --> 01:00:01.800
your no fail. Like you can't have this and, and

01:00:01.800 --> 01:00:06.320
we'll never get it. Okay. Because at the end

01:00:06.320 --> 01:00:08.579
of the day, right? Dogs don't speak English and

01:00:08.579 --> 01:00:12.260
it's not even worth trying to re structure that

01:00:12.260 --> 01:00:15.059
if he's already doing really well with that.

01:00:15.380 --> 01:00:19.079
Um, Because I know that you specifically work

01:00:19.079 --> 01:00:21.380
with him a lot. You work with him on like every

01:00:21.380 --> 01:00:24.840
meal with that. And so I would just keep what

01:00:24.840 --> 01:00:30.840
you've got. And then I'm struggling to think

01:00:30.840 --> 01:00:34.280
up another word right now. What's another one?

01:00:34.280 --> 01:00:36.460
I didn't think of any words, but I always, you

01:00:36.460 --> 01:00:40.079
can use like. That's actually, you know what,

01:00:40.079 --> 01:00:43.599
that works. Yeah. So I usually we use like no.

01:00:44.360 --> 01:00:46.559
For for different things with the dog, but you

01:00:46.559 --> 01:00:48.460
could just come up with a different frame frame

01:00:48.460 --> 01:00:51.119
of mind for that and just use like. Right. It

01:00:51.119 --> 01:00:53.500
can be a sound. It can be a word. I mean, you

01:00:53.500 --> 01:00:56.900
can literally teach him that banana is the word

01:00:56.900 --> 01:01:03.099
that means like he he can't have it. Right. And

01:01:03.099 --> 01:01:06.440
so I would do the same thing that we were talking

01:01:06.440 --> 01:01:15.690
about. Right. And the. So I know that he. Um,

01:01:15.690 --> 01:01:18.449
I know that when he went through our program,

01:01:18.610 --> 01:01:21.650
he learned leave it was, yeah, he doesn't get

01:01:21.650 --> 01:01:26.489
this. Um, inadvertently we may have like taught

01:01:26.489 --> 01:01:29.889
him kind of both. And so it's not a, it's not

01:01:29.889 --> 01:01:35.289
a real big deal. I would, where you have, where

01:01:35.289 --> 01:01:37.909
you have commands that are absolute and then

01:01:37.909 --> 01:01:42.090
conditional will always error right down to the

01:01:42.090 --> 01:01:45.480
conditional level. So I don't think it would

01:01:45.480 --> 01:01:49.860
be fair to at the point where he's he's now learned.

01:01:49.920 --> 01:01:52.559
Well, he's learned that like leave it is conditional

01:01:52.559 --> 01:01:55.260
and is just like timeline based. You're going

01:01:55.260 --> 01:01:57.900
to tell him that he can have it eventually. I

01:01:57.900 --> 01:02:02.440
wouldn't bother trying to restructure his leave

01:02:02.440 --> 01:02:06.820
it command to mean that it is absolute. I would

01:02:06.820 --> 01:02:10.960
just transfer to another command and do the same

01:02:10.960 --> 01:02:15.599
process. When you say that other word or that

01:02:15.599 --> 01:02:17.619
other command or that other sound, whatever you

01:02:17.619 --> 01:02:24.400
decide, he never gets it. Yeah. Okay. Does that

01:02:24.400 --> 01:02:29.239
make sense? Cool. Yeah. Thanks. Of course. Anybody

01:02:29.239 --> 01:02:36.420
else have a question? Hello, Ryan. Can you hear

01:02:36.420 --> 01:02:40.500
me? Yep. I can hear you. Hi. So I have a question.

01:02:41.809 --> 01:02:47.329
The leave it part. So Bubba is still, as you

01:02:47.329 --> 01:02:51.369
know, very energetic. Yeah. Most of the time

01:02:51.369 --> 01:02:54.130
he goes in the kitchen and we tell him to leave

01:02:54.130 --> 01:02:59.210
it. But he would stop for like a second and then

01:02:59.210 --> 01:03:04.030
he would go back when what he wants to do. And

01:03:04.030 --> 01:03:07.409
as you know, he's very food driven. So even if

01:03:07.409 --> 01:03:10.789
he leaves and I get him a treat, he's good for

01:03:10.789 --> 01:03:17.389
life. In milliseconds. I gotcha. So for him,

01:03:17.409 --> 01:03:19.989
so it's going to be important, right? We're talking

01:03:19.989 --> 01:03:22.769
about a five month old puppy. And so when we're

01:03:22.769 --> 01:03:26.070
talking about, you know, a young dog, we're going

01:03:26.070 --> 01:03:29.510
to want to teach him that leave it on a leash.

01:03:31.510 --> 01:03:35.090
And that leash is going to give you the accountability

01:03:35.090 --> 01:03:38.889
to prevent him from getting whatever it is that

01:03:38.889 --> 01:03:47.679
you're talking about leaving. And so what is

01:03:47.679 --> 01:03:50.820
the object? I'm sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt.

01:03:50.900 --> 01:03:52.840
I think we've got a little bit of a delay. But

01:03:52.840 --> 01:03:55.820
what is the object that he is not leaving in

01:03:55.820 --> 01:04:06.199
your example specifically? Shoes is one of his

01:04:06.199 --> 01:04:11.079
biggest things. He loves to take our shoes and

01:04:11.079 --> 01:04:42.780
tear them apart. Aw, dang it. We lost you. But

01:04:42.780 --> 01:04:45.860
I think I can kind of answer some of that. So

01:04:45.860 --> 01:04:50.139
one, with puppies specifically, you're going

01:04:50.139 --> 01:04:52.659
to kind of want to keep a drag line on so you

01:04:52.659 --> 01:04:55.599
have some frame of control over the dog, right?

01:04:55.699 --> 01:04:57.860
So that the dog can't necessarily grab something

01:04:57.860 --> 01:05:01.780
and run away. So a drag line or like a leash

01:05:01.780 --> 01:05:04.300
is always kind of recommended, especially for

01:05:04.300 --> 01:05:08.079
five -month -old puppies. um relatively young

01:05:08.079 --> 01:05:11.219
so we will just buy like a super cheap like flat

01:05:11.219 --> 01:05:13.559
leash from like the dollar store or wherever

01:05:13.559 --> 01:05:16.159
and cut the handle off so they don't get snagged

01:05:16.159 --> 01:05:19.260
on anything um and just let him drag that around

01:05:19.260 --> 01:05:22.000
that way you have some control like if he gets

01:05:22.000 --> 01:05:25.280
the shoe it's like okay let's go and like let's

01:05:25.280 --> 01:05:27.420
go outside kind of that redirection ryan was

01:05:27.420 --> 01:05:29.880
talking about but you have a leash to where you

01:05:29.880 --> 01:05:32.590
can kind of show him where you want him to go

01:05:32.590 --> 01:05:34.449
because he's so young he's not going to know

01:05:34.449 --> 01:05:37.230
all of those cues probably right off the bat

01:05:37.230 --> 01:05:39.349
so giving him some body language and just picking

01:05:39.349 --> 01:05:41.889
up the leash and kind of redirecting will probably

01:05:41.889 --> 01:05:45.340
prevent him from At least he'll either drop the

01:05:45.340 --> 01:05:47.719
shoe, which a lot of dogs do. If they think they're

01:05:47.719 --> 01:05:48.940
going somewhere, they're like, oh, I'll just

01:05:48.940 --> 01:05:51.840
leave this then. I don't care. Or it gives you

01:05:51.840 --> 01:05:54.920
the ability to then be able to get the shoe and

01:05:54.920 --> 01:05:57.920
then work on that trading. Because he's so young,

01:05:57.980 --> 01:05:59.239
you're definitely going to have to work through

01:05:59.239 --> 01:06:02.480
a lot of patterning that trading where you're

01:06:02.480 --> 01:06:06.119
giving something of a higher value to him than

01:06:06.119 --> 01:06:11.780
what that shoe is worth. Okay, amazing. Thank

01:06:11.780 --> 01:06:13.619
you. You're welcome. And then with the kitchen,

01:06:13.800 --> 01:06:16.260
I know like we usually teach boundaries like

01:06:16.260 --> 01:06:18.599
for our kitchen where it's like if the dog steps

01:06:18.599 --> 01:06:21.539
past the cabinet, it's like, nope, out. And we'll

01:06:21.539 --> 01:06:23.679
just kind of give them some pressure and walk

01:06:23.679 --> 01:06:26.340
towards them. And eventually the dog will learn

01:06:26.340 --> 01:06:29.739
like the cues to look for and the space to know

01:06:29.739 --> 01:06:31.599
that they can't like cross that boundary. Or

01:06:31.599 --> 01:06:33.599
if they do, then you just redirect them and give

01:06:33.599 --> 01:06:35.920
them like an out command is usually what I use

01:06:35.920 --> 01:06:40.840
for that or go. yeah i usually use that and then

01:06:40.840 --> 01:06:43.920
he just runs out because i'm just like no kitchen

01:06:43.920 --> 01:06:46.519
yeah and the more you do that the more repetition

01:06:46.519 --> 01:06:48.719
like repetitions you get in with that and your

01:06:48.719 --> 01:06:52.440
consistency of where he hits that line and you

01:06:52.440 --> 01:06:56.820
tell him to go um building that pattern by the

01:06:56.820 --> 01:06:59.159
time he's like a year old he'll be like oh okay

01:06:59.159 --> 01:07:02.039
i'm not supposed to do that but we always are

01:07:02.039 --> 01:07:03.960
like fair to the dog right and it's like cool

01:07:03.960 --> 01:07:06.179
they walk past the kitchen and it's like no go

01:07:06.920 --> 01:07:08.880
Like our dog will want to come into the garage

01:07:08.880 --> 01:07:11.619
sometimes when, when I'm in there and I want

01:07:11.619 --> 01:07:14.280
her to stay out. And she knows like now if she

01:07:14.280 --> 01:07:16.519
walks past there and I'm working in the garage,

01:07:16.599 --> 01:07:19.239
I tell her to go and she backs up to the door

01:07:19.239 --> 01:07:21.960
and she'll lay down like right inside. So just

01:07:21.960 --> 01:07:24.780
being, being really consistent with patterning

01:07:24.780 --> 01:07:26.980
that will, will help him by the time he's like

01:07:26.980 --> 01:07:30.039
a year, really be consistent with it. I will

01:07:30.039 --> 01:07:31.960
be sure to do that. Thank you so much. Yeah.

01:07:32.039 --> 01:07:36.980
Yeah, of course. All right. I'll give it. A couple

01:07:36.980 --> 01:07:38.940
of seconds here. Anybody else have a question?

01:07:40.820 --> 01:07:49.659
And then we'll go into listener projects. All

01:07:49.659 --> 01:07:54.980
right. Okay. Project number one, the drop it,

01:07:55.000 --> 01:07:58.900
trade it game. So offer your dog a toy, allow

01:07:58.900 --> 01:08:01.980
light engagement, play with them. Scoop around,

01:08:02.159 --> 01:08:05.079
make it come alive, and then say drop it once

01:08:05.079 --> 01:08:10.960
and pause. Everything freezes. Trade calmly with

01:08:10.960 --> 01:08:16.659
a treat or something, right? A treat, trade him

01:08:16.659 --> 01:08:19.300
another toy, trade him something of value. But

01:08:19.300 --> 01:08:25.060
reward away from the object. Repeat five, ten

01:08:25.060 --> 01:08:28.520
times. Use that calm energy and really reinforce

01:08:28.520 --> 01:08:34.850
the calm energy. Project number two, the basic

01:08:34.850 --> 01:08:37.189
leave it drill. So place a low value item on

01:08:37.189 --> 01:08:42.829
the floor, maybe like some regular food or something

01:08:42.829 --> 01:08:46.609
like that, and ask the dog to leave it. Keep

01:08:46.609 --> 01:08:50.229
them on a leash so that you can enforce accountability

01:08:50.229 --> 01:08:56.170
in leaving it. This will backfire if you say

01:08:56.170 --> 01:08:59.869
leave it and then the dog is able to get to the

01:08:59.869 --> 01:09:03.920
food. That will backfire every time. So instead,

01:09:04.060 --> 01:09:06.560
keep them on a leash. And when they go for that

01:09:06.560 --> 01:09:09.760
food, it just increases. You hold your hand exactly

01:09:09.760 --> 01:09:11.720
where it is. You don't have to correct them or

01:09:11.720 --> 01:09:14.020
anything, but they'll turn the pressure on themselves.

01:09:14.579 --> 01:09:18.420
And when they feel that pressure, they know that,

01:09:18.479 --> 01:09:22.420
okay, something changed. When they yield to that

01:09:22.420 --> 01:09:26.939
pressure, that's when we reward. So when your

01:09:26.939 --> 01:09:30.050
dog looks away or backs off, Mark with your yes

01:09:30.050 --> 01:09:32.869
or your free and reward the dog in the opposite

01:09:32.869 --> 01:09:38.369
direction. If we're teaching a hard line, leave

01:09:38.369 --> 01:09:42.430
it where the dog should not ever get that item.

01:09:42.529 --> 01:09:46.869
Then I need to remember to then reach over and

01:09:46.869 --> 01:09:50.630
pick that low value item up so that they don't

01:09:50.630 --> 01:09:56.260
get it gradually. increase the engagement with

01:09:56.260 --> 01:10:00.340
your dog by doing this repetitively. All right.

01:10:00.399 --> 01:10:05.840
That concludes our call for tonight. Thank you

01:10:05.840 --> 01:10:10.680
for, uh, for dialing in and for listening and

01:10:10.680 --> 01:10:13.800
for downloading and for all of the support that

01:10:13.800 --> 01:10:15.960
we've gotten from the, the, from the community.

01:10:16.079 --> 01:10:20.420
Um, super, super appreciative. Like I have said

01:10:20.420 --> 01:10:24.380
before, I, I'm not a professional podcaster,

01:10:24.560 --> 01:10:28.680
not a videographer, not even a geologist. So

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I really, really would appreciate comments, constructive

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ones. I mean, I'll take whatever. I got a thick

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skin. But if you've got some ideas on how we

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could do this better or how we could do it more

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efficiently, I am all about it. But for tonight,

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we're going to say goodnight. Goodnight. Goodnight,

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guys. Thank you very much.