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Welcome to Pawprint Academy, your blueprint to

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raising better dogs. My name is Ryan, and I'll

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be your host for this journey. I've got my trusty

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co -host here, Brianna. Hello. And together,

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we're bringing you real -world training insights

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built on leadership, structure, and proven methods.

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We record this podcast with live clients on the

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line in one take with live, unscripted questions

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and answers. At the end of the day, this podcast

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is a lot more than just teaching your dog to

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sit or stay. creating calmness, and becoming

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the kind of leader your dog truly needs. We do

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that with our three pillar method of trust, obey,

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and perform. Together, we'll show you how these

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three pillars shape every step of training. Thanks

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for being here. Let's get started. Hey, everybody.

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Episode 15, Place and Space Command. I had a

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whole thing lined up to say to that, and then

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I forgot it all. So I was laughing right before

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we started here, and I just totally forgot all

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of the buttons on the soundboard and how to do

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all this stuff. You just take one and a half

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weeks off, and then everything falls apart. Okay,

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so. Episode 15, place and space, teaching calmness

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in the home. Everything that we do is basically

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related to dogs and pets in the home. That's

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what we talk about. And tonight we're going to

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talk about our core idea, which is that place

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as a command teaches dogs how to stay calm and

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neutral around everyday household activities.

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It gives the dog a clear picture of having a

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job. And it reduces the chaos and the random

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things that are going on in the home. And builds

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impulse control, at least when practiced consistently.

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So as we jump into this, welcome back from the...

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A little extended break from our last episode.

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We had Christmas and then New Year's and then

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the one week or so that we take off each year.

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And we just work with our own dogs and go on

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adventures and try to survive the random North

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Carolina. Weather snaps, right? One minute it's

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31 degrees. The next minute it's 70 degrees outside.

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I know. It's so crazy. And you don't know whether

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to wear a parka or sunblock. And it's killing

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me right now. Just put both on. Just put both

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on early in the morning. You're ready to go.

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So as we get into our topic tonight, this is

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Brianna's favorite topic. Yeah. She loves some

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place. Yeah. Place and threshold banners are

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my two go -tos. To the point where she brought

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a place bed for her dog on vacation. Yeah, I

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bring them everywhere. Everywhere. Even if it's

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not like a place bed, it's like a towel or a

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rug or like a mat or something for sure. Right.

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And we're going to talk about why that's important,

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right? So why? Having those definitive boundaries

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on a place bed or space is really important to

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the dog. We'll get into that in just a couple

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minutes. Major point number one is why it matters.

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So why does it matter? So it provides something

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predictable for the dog and a structure that

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they can understand. It gives them a space to

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relax and to know that that's where they go to

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do that. So it just provides the dog with its

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own little space. Right. And when... I'm trying

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to think of how I can phrase this. So when we

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deal with dogs and owners that are like, well,

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when does my dog... just get to you know roam

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around the house and get to just be a dog the

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double -edged sword to that comment is that when

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a dog is just being a dog inevitably they're

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going to make dog decisions and if you I guess

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fairly, you can only expect your dog to do what

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you have taught it. Yeah. And so if you haven't

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taught it what to do in the home and you only

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constantly correct them for, no, don't chew on

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that. No, don't pick up this. No, don't take

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that remote over there. No, don't grab those

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eyeglasses. Those are mine. No, don't chew up

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this shoe. You put your dog and you and your

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relationship at odds. And now it's you against

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your dog because the dog's like, it kind of sucks

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here. I don't really get to do anything. I just

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get told, no, don't do that. No, don't do that.

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No, don't do this. So it's not, because we're

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going to talk a lot about this structure tonight.

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And someone listening is going to be like, oh.

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They're those people that just don't let their

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dog do anything. And that's not what we're trying

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to get across. But if you haven't, you don't

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fix reactivity, a dog reacting to another dog,

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without giving the dog a job to do. Telling them

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what you want them to do. You can't create or

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change behaviors without teaching a dog what

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you want them for. actually to do instead. So

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when we, we let the dog just be a dog. Well,

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the dog has different motivations than you do.

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They have different things that they find value

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in than you do. So they're not, obviously they're

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not going to make the same decisions that you

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would make. And that by itself can create stress.

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especially with a newer dog that, or with an

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owner that isn't used to having a dog around.

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And now they do have one and they're like, well,

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uh, the dog I had 10 years ago, they just like,

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they were just chilling. Yeah. They were fine.

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Well, the dog, the memories that that owner has

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of that dog is mostly like towards the end of

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its life. It's not all they don't. Usually people

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don't remember back to, oh, I remember that first

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year that I had this dog and things were crazy.

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No, they remember after they've been through

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all of those like crazy things. And now the dog

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just chills. Well, at that point, that dog has

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inevitably learned what is expected and what's

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not. So our conversation is more geared towards

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the owners as they're learning their dog and

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their dog is learning what's expected and what's

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not. This is where having a place for the dog

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to go that is definitive and has borders and

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the dog can succeed at being in is so important.

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That space is a fenced in little area, which

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we can apply to the backyard, the front yard,

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any yard, right? A definitive like fenced in

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area keeps the dog from making bad decisions

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like running away. Well, a place bed also gives

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the dog something that they're allowed to do

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and that they can understand and process. Hey.

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They throw a party and bring me treats and bring

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me ice cubes and all of these other things when

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I lay on this little area right here. This is

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a nice area. Yeah. I don't get yelled at. I don't

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get told no. I don't get chased around. I don't

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anything. This is great. And that can build confidence

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in the. Just the general like dog framework,

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right? You can increase their confidence because

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they have something that they now know this is

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acceptable. Right. Yep. And then that is a tool

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that you can apply in all these different ways.

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So we'll, I'm going to get off of my soapbox

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here because that was like my intro to this.

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When I, we first opened this episode and I was

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like, I had something lined up to say. We were

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going to talk about that. I couldn't. Couldn't

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get it out. So place teaches the, like a fixed

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location that then gives the dog this kind of

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like neutrality in the home where, Hey, this

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is, this is just a chill zone. I, nothing bad

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happens to me when I'm here. It's safe. My parents

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just like, let me relax. Sometimes they like,

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Bring me fun and yummy things. Or maybe I get

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to chew on a bone or play with a toy in this

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space. This is a cool spot. That's what we want

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to cultivate with a dog. We don't just want it

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to be, no, you go over there. No, we don't. That's

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not how we want to interact with our dog at all.

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But it gives us that. thumbs up to the dog that's

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like yeah this is what i want you to do so now

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you can very fairly and very clearly be like

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no don't chew on that shoe go over here and be

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on this in this space no don't go in that laundry

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room and go through all the laundry go to this

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space right it prevents the rehearsals of those

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like behaviors that you just don't want in a

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dog whether they're like chewing on things in

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your house grabbing things like you said um just

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kind of causing chaos in the home that's how

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you prevent those behaviors from just repeatedly

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happening and just having to shut the dog down

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right instead of doing that give them something

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to do right and then the the next thing is when

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you have guests over yeah right that is A place

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command is integral to our guest protocol or

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what we would explain to owners is this is the

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process of doorbell goes off and we want to teach

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that doorbell interaction as a precursor to going

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to my place. So that that's the cue, right? And

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now it's like, oh, I go to my place and then

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I can see who it is. and see who it is is not

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let me go crowd the door and and jump on someone

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it's let me maybe i put this place bed in a way

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that they can see straight line to the door yeah

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so that then when someone comes in they're like

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ah i'm one of the first ones to get to see who

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this is but i can only see that from my place

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yeah just as an example um so the the end state

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here is that place allows a reduction in the

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anxiety that can pop up in a dog from not really

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understanding why everything that they do, especially

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with young puppies, everything that they do is

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like a no -go. We deal with this with Dexter

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all the time. Dexter loves to create chaos. He

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loves to bite stuff. He loves to hold things

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in his mouth. Not so much like chew on them because

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we don't give them the opportunity, but he loves

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to pick things up and carry them around. And

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inevitably, if you allow him to just roam around

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the house, he's going to find something to pick

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it up because he invents a job. He needs something

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to do. Well, giving him a place command is a

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job. And it puts him in a position where he's

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like, I'm doing the right thing. I'm doing it.

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I'm doing the thing that they told me to do.

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Yeah. Instead of him deciding what to do, which

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is for sure going to be not what I want him to

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do. Yeah. He ping pongs around and he's like,

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I'm going to pick this up. I'm going to pick

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this up. I'm going to pick this up. Right. Looking

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for work. Yeah. Right. All right. So the next

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thing that it does is it strengthens or gives

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you the ability to start strengthening their

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impulse control because once they're on a place,

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Now you're dealing with the impulse control of

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whether they're going to stay there or not. And

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so now that gives you this, it puts you in position

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to then to work with your dog, right? And it

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puts you in a position where when they step off

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of their place, now this is a training event,

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right? And now it's no. I asked you to stay on

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your place. Oh, okay. And you see them like fidget

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or yawn, stress yawn or whatever, whatever it

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is. And maybe all you did was just step towards

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them and they're like, ah, spatial pressure.

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And they step back onto their place bed. Now

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their brain is processing, ah, I have to stay

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here. I got to stay here. I got to stay here.

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I got to stay here. That is super valuable. Because

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now you're able to actually work on that impulse

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control in a way that is simple. If you try to

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break down impulse control, but you're out at

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a park and dealing with squirrels and wildlife

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and you as an owner, let alone a trainer who.

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may be educated and looking for some of these

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things. If you're trying to sort through all

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of the variables and the nuances and the body

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language and the distractions to reliably and

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clearly communicate to your dog how you want

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them to control themselves. Yeah. or control

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their thoughts in that environment, good luck.

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Right, because the dog just doesn't ignore it.

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They have something else to do that's more important

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to them and more motivating to them than the

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outside. So that's just not going to be a successful

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strategy is to work on impulse control in the

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moment and in the heat of the moment of the impulse.

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Where you work on the impulse control and where

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you build it is in that controlled environment

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where... Hey, they want to come off of that place,

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but they're able to think through it. And that's

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where we build that pattern recognition and we

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build those successful repetitions. Okay. I'm

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referring to my notes real quick. I hit all of

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my other points here. So when owners get really

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wrapped around the axle of obedience commands

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and. And well, I just want my dog to come or

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I want my dog to down and I just want them to

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stay down. There is a lot of value in the place

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command. But when we're super focused on just

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commands like no, come stay down. What what do

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you use to kind of explain the value of that

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place command to. an owner that's kind of really,

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I guess, zeroed in on, on obedience more than

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what I would consider emotional regulation. Right.

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So that's what I always kind of like lean towards

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the conversation of is like, and we had this

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conversation this morning. It's like a lot of

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dog training is teaching a dog how to do nothing

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because That's not a part of training that anybody

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does with their dog. And if you do, cool. I'd

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love to hear about it. But I have never met just

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a regular pet dog owner who teaches their dog

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how to do nothing. You know, they're always kind

00:18:03.000 --> 00:18:05.500
of trying to teach them how to do something.

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And so a dog inevitably just learns how to go,

00:18:11.299 --> 00:18:15.339
go, go, go, go. And then at one, you know, one

00:18:15.339 --> 00:18:18.849
years old or however old, the dog is just so

00:18:18.849 --> 00:18:20.789
hyped up people are like i don't know what to

00:18:20.789 --> 00:18:24.809
do with all this energy but we've spent the dog's

00:18:24.809 --> 00:18:28.170
whole life teaching them to go go go and do something

00:18:28.170 --> 00:18:31.309
do something do something yeah so the value in

00:18:31.309 --> 00:18:33.970
teaching a dog how to do absolutely nothing other

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than just kind of be on this place and go relax

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while i do something is a crazy amount of of

00:18:44.730 --> 00:18:49.440
training that is invaluable to most people so

00:18:49.440 --> 00:18:52.759
give me another or give our listeners another

00:18:52.759 --> 00:18:56.940
example of like how you use place like out with

00:18:56.940 --> 00:18:59.619
those other distractions yeah so how does it

00:18:59.619 --> 00:19:02.059
translate right so it's building in like the

00:19:02.059 --> 00:19:05.640
ob to a degree place can be an obedience command

00:19:05.640 --> 00:19:09.099
right if you teach a dog place that's something

00:19:09.099 --> 00:19:12.539
that they know how to do And you can translate

00:19:12.539 --> 00:19:15.779
that into environments that make the dog nervous

00:19:15.779 --> 00:19:19.680
or, you know, just a different level of distracted

00:19:19.680 --> 00:19:22.000
really. It doesn't even have to be fearful or

00:19:22.000 --> 00:19:24.200
nervous or anything like that. But I do use that

00:19:24.200 --> 00:19:27.059
a lot for dogs. Like I set up in parking lots

00:19:27.059 --> 00:19:31.240
with a place bed. And I do a place bed because

00:19:31.240 --> 00:19:35.680
there's a difference of taking a dog out to a

00:19:35.680 --> 00:19:40.009
different textured. um environment like concrete

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or grass or dirt or whatever and asking them

00:19:43.789 --> 00:19:47.670
to sit or down most dogs are going to feel unnatural

00:19:47.670 --> 00:19:50.490
the first time or two doing that if not more

00:19:50.490 --> 00:19:53.049
times than that but if you take a place bed the

00:19:53.049 --> 00:19:55.950
dog is familiar with that and asking them to

00:19:55.950 --> 00:19:57.910
go to that place you can then ask for sit and

00:19:57.910 --> 00:20:01.150
down while on that place bed and build in more

00:20:01.150 --> 00:20:04.190
obedience while working through those distractions

00:20:04.190 --> 00:20:09.559
so it's just a familiar thing that you can give

00:20:09.559 --> 00:20:12.640
your dog right I mean a lot of people bring like

00:20:12.640 --> 00:20:15.720
blankets and dog beds and stuff like that with

00:20:15.720 --> 00:20:20.180
them um to different places because it's their

00:20:20.180 --> 00:20:23.200
dog's like comfort item I mean essentially like

00:20:23.200 --> 00:20:25.279
that's how I use a place but it's a dog's comfort

00:20:25.279 --> 00:20:28.680
item right I take it everywhere and it can be

00:20:28.680 --> 00:20:30.819
a soft one most of the time we just use the elevated

00:20:30.819 --> 00:20:34.829
but it's a dog's comfort item it's their space

00:20:34.829 --> 00:20:37.650
to relax it's like a kennel space to a degree

00:20:37.650 --> 00:20:40.970
but they get to be in the space with you and

00:20:40.970 --> 00:20:43.789
kind of hanging out so they're learning that

00:20:43.789 --> 00:20:47.309
they have the choice of hanging out with you

00:20:47.309 --> 00:20:51.269
in their own designated area and not be confined

00:20:51.269 --> 00:20:54.730
to the kennel right it's just laying on a place

00:20:54.730 --> 00:20:56.809
bed in whatever comfortable position they want

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and i think a lot of people always think that

00:21:00.190 --> 00:21:01.990
Even if you're on a place bed, the dog can't

00:21:01.990 --> 00:21:04.789
be doing anything. But we are all the time rotating

00:21:04.789 --> 00:21:07.269
like bones and chew toys and things like that

00:21:07.269 --> 00:21:09.470
for the dogs on the place because it gives them

00:21:09.470 --> 00:21:11.910
something to do. And inevitably they're like,

00:21:11.990 --> 00:21:13.470
okay, I'm kind of tired now. I'm going to take

00:21:13.470 --> 00:21:18.549
a nap. Yeah. Love it. Okay. So how do we teach

00:21:18.549 --> 00:21:24.690
it? So teaching the command clearly. Let's break

00:21:24.690 --> 00:21:30.769
this down. So when we. First start teaching place.

00:21:32.170 --> 00:21:43.069
I like to try to shape their behavior in this

00:21:43.069 --> 00:21:46.190
situation. And so what that means is I'll start

00:21:46.190 --> 00:21:51.890
with, I guess to back this up for a second. So

00:21:51.890 --> 00:21:56.579
there are elevated place beds. which is my preference

00:21:56.579 --> 00:22:01.599
to use when I first teach this. And a place bed

00:22:01.599 --> 00:22:03.680
can be anything, right? A place bed can just

00:22:03.680 --> 00:22:06.440
be, like you were saying, just a mat, a towel,

00:22:06.799 --> 00:22:09.559
a little square, a little carpet square, or whatever.

00:22:10.960 --> 00:22:15.619
The value of an elevated place bed is that it

00:22:15.619 --> 00:22:24.680
builds a very definitive, vertical, change of

00:22:24.680 --> 00:22:28.339
level right change of elevation when the dog

00:22:28.339 --> 00:22:31.920
steps off of it and i think that's really really

00:22:31.920 --> 00:22:34.579
helpful when you're first trying to teach a dog

00:22:34.579 --> 00:22:37.359
yeah for sure to to be on a place because not

00:22:37.359 --> 00:22:40.160
only does the dog have to break the perimeter

00:22:40.160 --> 00:22:43.960
but they also have to change levels yeah and

00:22:43.960 --> 00:22:47.619
when a dog has to step down and off of something

00:22:47.619 --> 00:22:53.900
in order to to break that it's very clear that

00:22:53.900 --> 00:22:58.599
the dog is now off of their place. When you do

00:22:58.599 --> 00:23:04.640
it on just a mat or like a fuzzy padded whatever,

00:23:04.880 --> 00:23:07.460
right? All the pet stores sell all sorts of different

00:23:07.460 --> 00:23:11.180
versions here. But let's say the dog, I'm going

00:23:11.180 --> 00:23:14.220
to try to describe it, but the dog's front paws

00:23:14.220 --> 00:23:18.859
are like well off of the place bed, but you know.

00:23:19.160 --> 00:23:23.059
three quarters of their body is all on the place

00:23:23.059 --> 00:23:27.319
bed. Well, are they on or are they off? Yeah.

00:23:27.720 --> 00:23:30.099
And this is always something that you usually

00:23:30.099 --> 00:23:32.039
gets asked in the middle of the lesson is like,

00:23:32.099 --> 00:23:36.099
well, when do I correct them? Well, that's, that's

00:23:36.099 --> 00:23:38.880
up to you, but whatever your level is has to

00:23:38.880 --> 00:23:41.980
be exact and it has to be consistent. Otherwise

00:23:41.980 --> 00:23:46.180
the dog's like, I am on my place. What do you

00:23:46.180 --> 00:23:49.039
mean? Right. And then we always end up seeing

00:23:49.039 --> 00:23:51.740
like the army crawl, right? Where the dog's just

00:23:51.740 --> 00:23:58.599
like, right. Yeah. I am just gonna kind of inch

00:23:58.599 --> 00:24:02.059
off of here, but I'm still in my place. Yeah.

00:24:02.599 --> 00:24:06.759
I'm still in my place though. Don't worry. So

00:24:06.759 --> 00:24:11.640
the way that you avoid that is it's except with

00:24:11.640 --> 00:24:16.220
maybe a certain Frenchie that I know. Who will

00:24:16.220 --> 00:24:18.900
just like hang themselves off of the edge of

00:24:18.900 --> 00:24:22.420
the bed. I know it's not even comfortable. So

00:24:22.420 --> 00:24:27.240
it's ridiculous. So but the elevation allows

00:24:27.240 --> 00:24:29.599
the dog to be very, very clear when they step

00:24:29.599 --> 00:24:32.539
off of that or they they come off that. Now they're

00:24:32.539 --> 00:24:35.299
touching the ground. You can correct them. You'd

00:24:35.299 --> 00:24:38.859
be like, no, that's wrong. and when we correct

00:24:38.859 --> 00:24:40.779
that we can just step towards them we take that

00:24:40.779 --> 00:24:43.940
space away that spatial pressure and in most

00:24:43.940 --> 00:24:47.980
of the times the dog will just back up yeah so

00:24:47.980 --> 00:24:52.759
i like to take that bed and i like to move it

00:24:52.759 --> 00:24:56.619
into a position where i can likely get the dog

00:24:56.619 --> 00:25:00.039
to cross that threshold or to to walk across

00:25:00.039 --> 00:25:05.569
it yeah if you have a dog that just refuses to

00:25:05.569 --> 00:25:09.230
like walk on it then we have a different issue

00:25:09.230 --> 00:25:12.990
right and we can start by just getting them near

00:25:12.990 --> 00:25:17.069
it and we can mark and then reward you guys can

00:25:17.069 --> 00:25:20.569
use um clickers we can use our verbal commands

00:25:20.569 --> 00:25:24.529
we can use any type of marking um process that

00:25:24.529 --> 00:25:28.690
you've already built into the dog so dog gets

00:25:28.690 --> 00:25:33.759
near the bed cool i mark it reward Mark and reward

00:25:33.759 --> 00:25:37.519
over and over and over. Then I'm able to get

00:25:37.519 --> 00:25:39.519
them a little closer and a little closer. Eventually,

00:25:39.519 --> 00:25:44.960
we get front paws onto the bed. We continue to

00:25:44.960 --> 00:25:48.420
mark that. Then we get the full, all four paws

00:25:48.420 --> 00:25:54.400
onto the bed. That's an important level that

00:25:54.400 --> 00:25:57.859
we've got to get to. Because once we get to four

00:25:57.859 --> 00:26:03.420
paws on the bed, now... We can start to name

00:26:03.420 --> 00:26:07.160
that as our behavior, right? Once that's reliable,

00:26:07.420 --> 00:26:13.420
that is the actual command place for pause on

00:26:13.420 --> 00:26:20.680
this space right here. Where I'm trying to stay

00:26:20.680 --> 00:26:23.500
on track in a way that is not rabbit hole -ish.

00:26:24.359 --> 00:26:29.180
So when I name it, I want to start naming the

00:26:29.180 --> 00:26:32.099
command. as they're doing it so right as that

00:26:32.099 --> 00:26:35.400
fourth paw comes off of the ground and touches

00:26:35.400 --> 00:26:39.900
the bed i'm naming it place and then hitting

00:26:39.900 --> 00:26:43.000
them with my reward marker whatever that is in

00:26:43.000 --> 00:26:45.980
this case ours is free and then i let them jump

00:26:45.980 --> 00:26:49.140
right back off of that because i don't want to

00:26:49.140 --> 00:26:51.460
build too much duration right at the beginning

00:26:51.460 --> 00:26:54.119
or try to require a bunch of duration with either

00:26:54.119 --> 00:26:57.319
a nervous dog or a dog that's just starting working

00:26:57.319 --> 00:27:00.740
on a brand new command so I release them. I give

00:27:00.740 --> 00:27:04.779
them that release marker that is a reward -based

00:27:04.779 --> 00:27:08.039
marker. I'm like, hey, great job. You're done.

00:27:08.200 --> 00:27:11.000
Go ahead and jump off of there. And then I set

00:27:11.000 --> 00:27:14.599
it up so that they can do it again. When the

00:27:14.599 --> 00:27:17.200
placement of the bed is a little important, at

00:27:17.200 --> 00:27:19.960
first, if I can just get them to walk across

00:27:19.960 --> 00:27:23.799
it, that's awesome. And right as they walk across

00:27:23.799 --> 00:27:29.539
it, I reward them. Yeah. I think also with like

00:27:29.539 --> 00:27:32.420
a little bit more fearful dogs, if you flip elevated

00:27:32.420 --> 00:27:35.039
beds upside down so that they're laying on the

00:27:35.039 --> 00:27:39.039
ground, a lot of times the dogs are more apt

00:27:39.039 --> 00:27:42.619
to walk over it or put their feet on it. Yeah,

00:27:42.640 --> 00:27:46.859
that's a great first step before you flip it

00:27:46.859 --> 00:27:52.559
back over. Okay, so once we've got a dog that

00:27:52.559 --> 00:27:56.700
will put all four paws on the bed. This is an

00:27:56.700 --> 00:27:59.859
important definition that I want to talk about.

00:27:59.960 --> 00:28:07.019
So the reason why we require four paws on the

00:28:07.019 --> 00:28:12.480
place bed and not a down or a sit is because

00:28:12.480 --> 00:28:18.759
those are even more demanding positions. If you

00:28:18.759 --> 00:28:24.319
put a dog in a sit and then the dog lays down,

00:28:25.519 --> 00:28:28.619
Do you correct them? Right. Or do you not? This

00:28:28.619 --> 00:28:31.859
brings up a whole nother conversation. So without

00:28:31.859 --> 00:28:33.319
going down the rabbit hole, cause we're going

00:28:33.319 --> 00:28:35.220
to talk about sitting down and some other things

00:28:35.220 --> 00:28:39.660
on another episode without going too far off

00:28:39.660 --> 00:28:44.980
the path here. I just want my place command to

00:28:44.980 --> 00:28:50.099
mean four paws in this space. You can lay down,

00:28:50.240 --> 00:28:53.299
you can sit, you can stand, you can spin around.

00:28:53.960 --> 00:28:57.200
All of those things are fine. I just want four

00:28:57.200 --> 00:29:00.359
paws on here. What that does is it builds some

00:29:00.359 --> 00:29:04.799
freedom in the fact that you don't have to constantly

00:29:04.799 --> 00:29:10.259
correct for something even more exact. If you

00:29:10.259 --> 00:29:15.019
put a dog on a place bed and then you tell them

00:29:15.019 --> 00:29:19.259
down, well now if they get up and they sit up

00:29:19.259 --> 00:29:22.569
or they like... fidget like turn around or they're

00:29:22.569 --> 00:29:28.230
doing whatever you are not building clarity in

00:29:28.230 --> 00:29:30.150
your dog if you're not correcting them or you're

00:29:30.150 --> 00:29:35.190
not telling them no i said down so to alleviate

00:29:35.190 --> 00:29:40.230
that whole issue we just want four paws on that

00:29:40.230 --> 00:29:44.529
place bed yep that makes it as simple and as

00:29:44.529 --> 00:29:48.309
easy and clear to the dog as possible You just

00:29:48.309 --> 00:29:50.289
got to be right there in that little perimeter.

00:29:50.430 --> 00:29:56.210
That's all I want. Okay. Let me look at this

00:29:56.210 --> 00:29:59.789
because I went off of my points, but I think

00:29:59.789 --> 00:30:02.990
I nailed the explanation there. Do you have anything

00:30:02.990 --> 00:30:08.130
to add on the explanation of just the hierarchy

00:30:08.130 --> 00:30:18.059
there process? We talked about duration. building

00:30:18.059 --> 00:30:20.980
short clean reps that one's really really important

00:30:20.980 --> 00:30:27.960
so we the next step once i am able to get the

00:30:27.960 --> 00:30:30.880
dog to go on to their place hop off come get

00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:33.660
the treat i do that a whole bunch of times then

00:30:33.660 --> 00:30:38.140
i can start building some duration really short

00:30:38.140 --> 00:30:41.480
right the three d's of dog training or of that

00:30:41.480 --> 00:30:46.049
come into play later the more advanced right

00:30:46.049 --> 00:30:50.009
is our distance duration and distraction those

00:30:50.009 --> 00:30:53.730
three things always work against us and we're

00:30:53.730 --> 00:30:58.230
always using them to try to proof our commands

00:30:58.230 --> 00:31:05.029
so once the dog will reliably go onto their place

00:31:05.029 --> 00:31:08.650
bed and hop off now we start building duration

00:31:08.650 --> 00:31:15.940
and with duration i want to start Real simple.

00:31:16.079 --> 00:31:21.079
Two seconds. Three seconds. Four seconds. That

00:31:21.079 --> 00:31:25.160
allows you to just hold the dog in place just

00:31:25.160 --> 00:31:28.299
for a little bit. And then you release them with

00:31:28.299 --> 00:31:32.359
that free command or whatever your positive release

00:31:32.359 --> 00:31:38.180
is. I hope that that makes sense. But speed and...

00:31:38.519 --> 00:31:41.900
Quick releases with short, clean reps is really,

00:31:42.119 --> 00:31:44.220
really, really important. And the number one

00:31:44.220 --> 00:31:48.839
thing that I see dog owners do wrong when they're

00:31:48.839 --> 00:31:51.720
training is that they get so excited that their

00:31:51.720 --> 00:31:53.740
dog's listening and they're breaking through.

00:31:53.940 --> 00:31:56.000
And they're like, yeah, this is awesome. And

00:31:56.000 --> 00:32:00.869
we go into testing too quickly. Right. And you're

00:32:00.869 --> 00:32:02.990
like, oh, I wonder if I can walk around this

00:32:02.990 --> 00:32:06.269
counter and get them to stay. Oh, wow. They did.

00:32:06.529 --> 00:32:09.369
This is so great. I wonder if I can go and disappear

00:32:09.369 --> 00:32:11.990
down the hallway. Oh, they did. I'm going to

00:32:11.990 --> 00:32:13.930
walk outside immediately. And it's like, no,

00:32:13.950 --> 00:32:17.369
stop, stop, stop, stop. Because at the point

00:32:17.369 --> 00:32:20.730
where you push it too far and they fail, you've

00:32:20.730 --> 00:32:23.849
actually taken three or four steps back and you

00:32:23.849 --> 00:32:27.309
don't realize that you have and you need to build

00:32:27.309 --> 00:32:32.910
those perfect. clear repetitions with enough

00:32:32.910 --> 00:32:36.269
frequency and enough repetition to drive that

00:32:36.269 --> 00:32:39.650
pattern home in the dog's brain before you make

00:32:39.650 --> 00:32:45.690
it more difficult. And so if I can advise anyone

00:32:45.690 --> 00:32:52.390
listening on the most important thing is just

00:32:52.390 --> 00:32:57.230
go slow. Go slow when those baby steps and really

00:32:57.230 --> 00:33:00.230
make sure that you've got it. I'm not talking,

00:33:00.329 --> 00:33:03.490
oh, well, he's done it like 10 times. I am talking

00:33:03.490 --> 00:33:07.470
way more than 10. And your dog is going to for

00:33:07.470 --> 00:33:11.390
sure decide on how many is appropriate. But way,

00:33:11.549 --> 00:33:17.730
way more. When we do a dog, we bring a dog in

00:33:17.730 --> 00:33:21.509
for a program, we're doing hundreds of repetition

00:33:21.509 --> 00:33:27.549
to build then the next step in. 10 is not enough.

00:33:29.210 --> 00:33:32.630
But it is excruciatingly painful to be like,

00:33:32.730 --> 00:33:36.410
well, I just did this for the 20th time. Right.

00:33:36.490 --> 00:33:38.349
I know. But that is that's what dog training

00:33:38.349 --> 00:33:40.589
is. Yeah. That's how we build that reliability.

00:33:41.029 --> 00:33:43.490
Yeah. You can't get around it over and over.

00:33:43.609 --> 00:33:47.069
Yeah. All right. What's your preferred first

00:33:47.069 --> 00:33:51.150
session for for introducing place? What does

00:33:51.150 --> 00:33:54.130
that look like to you? I mean, I think you kind

00:33:54.130 --> 00:33:55.970
of described it right. I set the bed up against

00:33:55.970 --> 00:33:59.109
a wall typically so I can just walk the dog over.

00:33:59.829 --> 00:34:01.849
Most dogs, especially if they already have a

00:34:01.849 --> 00:34:04.309
place bed, most dogs do, but they just don't

00:34:04.309 --> 00:34:07.910
have a command built in for it. Pretty easily.

00:34:07.930 --> 00:34:09.690
A wall is really good because you can stand on

00:34:09.690 --> 00:34:11.449
the other side and then walk them through between

00:34:11.449 --> 00:34:14.289
you and the wall. Right. And a lot of times dogs

00:34:14.289 --> 00:34:16.650
don't even like realize. And if you stop and

00:34:16.650 --> 00:34:19.269
take a pause right there. then you can just give

00:34:19.269 --> 00:34:21.010
them the release and they don't even understand

00:34:21.010 --> 00:34:24.829
what's happening at first. So yeah, that's pretty

00:34:24.829 --> 00:34:28.190
much, yeah. My favorite is just walking them

00:34:28.190 --> 00:34:30.849
over it. But like I said, if the dog already

00:34:30.849 --> 00:34:34.590
has a bed, then it typically, you know, clicks

00:34:34.590 --> 00:34:37.030
pretty quickly for a dog to be like, oh, okay,

00:34:37.090 --> 00:34:41.090
I'll just go lay on my comfy bed over here. What

00:34:41.090 --> 00:34:43.909
do you think is like some of the mistakes that

00:34:43.909 --> 00:34:46.179
make place training kind of fall apart? Early

00:34:46.179 --> 00:34:50.119
on. Not giving a break command and just letting

00:34:50.119 --> 00:34:52.780
your dog get off without saying anything. Okay.

00:34:52.820 --> 00:34:57.119
Yeah. So, so either pushing it too, too far,

00:34:57.139 --> 00:34:59.199
too fast. And that's my other one. Yeah. Right.

00:34:59.239 --> 00:35:01.440
And, and so I kind of like talked about that,

00:35:01.480 --> 00:35:04.260
but also the other one is more innocent. It's

00:35:04.260 --> 00:35:08.800
like, well, I, they were, let's say that you've

00:35:08.800 --> 00:35:12.480
got some duration, right? And your dog does go

00:35:12.480 --> 00:35:17.489
to place reliably. Well, now you're watching

00:35:17.489 --> 00:35:20.389
TV and you're distracted and then your dog breaks

00:35:20.389 --> 00:35:25.110
place. And maybe three or four or five minutes

00:35:25.110 --> 00:35:28.269
in and they break place and you don't notice.

00:35:29.690 --> 00:35:32.690
And then you just move on to another activity

00:35:32.690 --> 00:35:37.650
and you're like, oh, right. I forgot. And now

00:35:37.650 --> 00:35:40.809
your dog goes with you. Right. And you just move

00:35:40.809 --> 00:35:43.489
on because you're like, oh, well, I forgot. I

00:35:43.489 --> 00:35:47.030
wasn't clear. I didn't realize I didn't. And

00:35:47.030 --> 00:35:49.389
you blame. You're like, oh, well, it's not fair

00:35:49.389 --> 00:35:54.969
for me to correct them. I would disagree because

00:35:54.969 --> 00:35:57.250
and because you don't have to be mean about it.

00:35:57.469 --> 00:35:59.590
Yeah. But you for sure at the moment that you

00:35:59.590 --> 00:36:01.929
do realize you got to be like, oh, you tricked

00:36:01.929 --> 00:36:05.510
me. Like, cool. I'm not going to. I'm not going

00:36:05.510 --> 00:36:08.429
to punish my dog. Right. Like, but I'm for sure

00:36:08.429 --> 00:36:09.730
going to walk them back over there and be like,

00:36:09.789 --> 00:36:13.719
no, no. I told you to go onto your place and,

00:36:13.800 --> 00:36:17.460
and you tricked me and, and I didn't notice,

00:36:17.500 --> 00:36:19.420
but we're going to go back there and we're going

00:36:19.420 --> 00:36:23.599
to finish that out the right way. That's really

00:36:23.599 --> 00:36:27.760
important. Yeah. Because you'll make a lot of,

00:36:27.800 --> 00:36:30.980
uh, training dollars on this, on this subject,

00:36:31.039 --> 00:36:34.320
right? When it's just because you, you mess it

00:36:34.320 --> 00:36:38.719
up and you didn't catch it exactly on point doesn't

00:36:38.719 --> 00:36:41.619
mean that you can't. just guide them back there

00:36:41.619 --> 00:36:45.739
through leadership and being like, no, no, this

00:36:45.739 --> 00:36:49.639
is where I want you to be. Right, and it takes

00:36:49.639 --> 00:36:52.059
a few extra seconds or minutes, right? But those

00:36:52.059 --> 00:36:55.500
are the things that matter and add up in the

00:36:55.500 --> 00:36:58.300
long run of your dog learning the difference

00:36:58.300 --> 00:37:03.960
of whether you meant it or not. Yep, yep. The

00:37:03.960 --> 00:37:08.539
last subject that I think... Well, I want to

00:37:08.539 --> 00:37:12.420
bring up and then we'll, we'll move on to using

00:37:12.420 --> 00:37:14.480
it in real life. And we'll talk about a little

00:37:14.480 --> 00:37:19.940
more of those things is that your dog place is

00:37:19.940 --> 00:37:22.960
a great opportunity for your dog to test your

00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:29.400
desire and your, like the words that are coming

00:37:29.400 --> 00:37:31.360
to my head are like mental fortitude, right?

00:37:31.440 --> 00:37:37.579
Like what is your. True stomach for how involved

00:37:37.579 --> 00:37:42.440
you're going to get. Yeah. And I think that dogs

00:37:42.440 --> 00:37:46.760
have way more patience than we do. And place

00:37:46.760 --> 00:37:50.159
is a great command for a dog to kind of like,

00:37:50.260 --> 00:37:54.179
it's a play on words, right? Sniff you out for

00:37:54.179 --> 00:37:57.980
how serious you're really going to be. Yeah.

00:37:59.199 --> 00:38:02.840
And they're really good at it. Because they'll

00:38:02.840 --> 00:38:05.840
be cute about it. They'll be silly about it.

00:38:06.139 --> 00:38:10.639
We have a Frenchie that I was joking about earlier.

00:38:10.860 --> 00:38:13.820
We have a Frenchie that will just kind of slither

00:38:13.820 --> 00:38:18.699
off of this elevated place bed. And she's only

00:38:18.699 --> 00:38:25.400
like 14 inches long. She's like almost upside

00:38:25.400 --> 00:38:28.059
down. Right. She's almost upside down and her

00:38:28.059 --> 00:38:31.000
back legs are like sticking up into the air because

00:38:31.000 --> 00:38:32.980
she just doesn't have the length to like really

00:38:32.980 --> 00:38:36.139
slither off of this thing. But it will be like,

00:38:36.159 --> 00:38:39.300
you know, you're you're watching it and you're

00:38:39.300 --> 00:38:41.860
like, oh, my gosh, you are the most ridiculous.

00:38:41.960 --> 00:38:43.840
That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen.

00:38:43.900 --> 00:38:46.639
But you have to like stop yourself. It doesn't

00:38:46.639 --> 00:38:48.659
matter if it's ridiculous. Go correct it. Right.

00:38:48.820 --> 00:38:51.539
You got to be like, no, no. Get back on your

00:38:51.539 --> 00:38:57.800
place. If you don't, then as cute and as funny

00:38:57.800 --> 00:39:02.559
as it is, they still outbluffed you, right? They're

00:39:02.559 --> 00:39:05.659
like, you're not actually going to do anything

00:39:05.659 --> 00:39:10.980
about this. And when they find that. They're

00:39:10.980 --> 00:39:12.679
for sure going to be opportunistic about it.

00:39:12.699 --> 00:39:15.539
That doesn't mean they're manipulating the situation.

00:39:15.719 --> 00:39:18.380
They're just being opportunistic, which animals

00:39:18.380 --> 00:39:21.579
are. Animals are opportunistic. That means the

00:39:21.579 --> 00:39:26.039
door being open is usually not a, I'm going to

00:39:26.039 --> 00:39:29.659
go outside. The dog is not making a decision.

00:39:29.800 --> 00:39:31.440
I'm going to go outside and I'm going to run

00:39:31.440 --> 00:39:34.320
around and I probably see another dog and I might

00:39:34.320 --> 00:39:36.099
bark at that one. They're not thinking through

00:39:36.099 --> 00:39:37.820
the process. They're just like, the door's open.

00:39:37.920 --> 00:39:40.650
I'm going out. Yeah. oh there's food on the ground

00:39:40.650 --> 00:39:45.130
i'm gonna eat it right it's it's impulsive it's

00:39:45.130 --> 00:39:47.389
opportunistic as i say you know what helps with

00:39:47.389 --> 00:39:50.989
that impulse control right exactly so engagement

00:39:50.989 --> 00:39:55.170
in you and impulse control so the and the way

00:39:55.170 --> 00:39:58.269
that we train that is by being brilliant in the

00:39:58.269 --> 00:40:02.309
basics we have to correct those little things

00:40:02.309 --> 00:40:05.710
oh it's just one paw right oh it's oh they're

00:40:05.710 --> 00:40:09.940
just he's Actually, he's just trying to get comfortable.

00:40:10.579 --> 00:40:13.860
Right. And the dog kind of is like rolling kind

00:40:13.860 --> 00:40:18.219
of off of the place, but well, they're feeling

00:40:18.219 --> 00:40:21.219
you out. Yeah. Right. Are you going to correct

00:40:21.219 --> 00:40:24.260
that? Is it a big deal? Is it not a big deal?

00:40:24.739 --> 00:40:27.539
Well, those are your opportunities and what you

00:40:27.539 --> 00:40:31.559
do in those moments will define some of your

00:40:31.559 --> 00:40:35.679
other moments that you might not realize are

00:40:35.679 --> 00:40:41.219
related. Yeah. So inevitably when the dog is

00:40:41.219 --> 00:40:43.099
barking at something, you're like, hey, knock

00:40:43.099 --> 00:40:46.420
it off. Or dog is chasing something and you're

00:40:46.420 --> 00:40:50.559
like, hey, come, come back here. Or you are out

00:40:50.559 --> 00:40:53.360
somewhere and you're like, no, get back under

00:40:53.360 --> 00:40:57.340
this chair or on my side. He'll come do this,

00:40:57.380 --> 00:41:01.019
do that, whatever it is. Those things are related.

00:41:01.699 --> 00:41:04.760
If you're not holding your dog accountable in

00:41:04.760 --> 00:41:08.739
those calm, relaxed situations. You don't have

00:41:08.739 --> 00:41:12.960
a hope in the world at breaking through in those

00:41:12.960 --> 00:41:20.179
impulsive, crazy situations. Okay. The last thing

00:41:20.179 --> 00:41:22.380
that we're going to talk about tonight is using

00:41:22.380 --> 00:41:26.780
place in real life where integrating it into

00:41:26.780 --> 00:41:32.960
our daily routines allow a lot of power in, in

00:41:32.960 --> 00:41:36.690
our, not just our. training of a dog but also

00:41:36.690 --> 00:41:42.090
in building our relationship with the dog every

00:41:42.090 --> 00:41:47.969
bit of training dog training is not about control

00:41:47.969 --> 00:41:52.230
over the dog dog training is about building a

00:41:52.230 --> 00:41:55.230
relationship to where your dog wants to listen

00:41:55.230 --> 00:41:59.159
to you Because it's fun and it's engaging and

00:41:59.159 --> 00:42:03.000
it's in their best interest and they want to

00:42:03.000 --> 00:42:05.500
please you and they want to make you happy and

00:42:05.500 --> 00:42:08.960
it's just a great time, right? It's a positive

00:42:08.960 --> 00:42:13.099
experience. That is what dog training is all

00:42:13.099 --> 00:42:20.840
about. And so, let me not go down that rabbit

00:42:20.840 --> 00:42:24.980
hole. But in general, this comes up a lot when

00:42:24.980 --> 00:42:31.000
I'm, trying to explain the value of, of the training

00:42:31.000 --> 00:42:34.739
atmosphere and, and training in the home, because

00:42:34.739 --> 00:42:37.400
it's not just about when the dog trainer is there,

00:42:37.519 --> 00:42:42.739
right? Everyone here listening is, has to be

00:42:42.739 --> 00:42:47.219
the dog trainer has to be. And, and the dog trainer

00:42:47.219 --> 00:42:51.639
like concept, it's not just about that guy coming

00:42:51.639 --> 00:42:55.809
over and telling me what to do. The, The dog

00:42:55.809 --> 00:42:58.210
trainer aspect is you've got to be your dog's

00:42:58.210 --> 00:43:02.869
friend, but also your dog's leader. And you got

00:43:02.869 --> 00:43:06.269
to blend those two. And the more that you lead

00:43:06.269 --> 00:43:09.590
them and the more that you hold them accountable

00:43:09.590 --> 00:43:12.469
with that leadership, setting clear expectations

00:43:12.469 --> 00:43:15.750
and then holding them accountable for them, it

00:43:15.750 --> 00:43:17.730
builds your relationship to where your dog's

00:43:17.730 --> 00:43:21.699
like, yeah. Come back? Okay, cool. What are we

00:43:21.699 --> 00:43:24.840
doing next? Rather than, no, no, I'm not coming

00:43:24.840 --> 00:43:28.739
because there's a squirrel. There's a goose over

00:43:28.739 --> 00:43:31.360
there. I'm not coming back. That goose is awesome.

00:43:31.579 --> 00:43:35.400
I want to go check that out. You don't have a

00:43:35.400 --> 00:43:38.280
hope in the world of getting them to come back

00:43:38.280 --> 00:43:42.340
because you're boring or you're not a leader

00:43:42.340 --> 00:43:46.619
or you're not fun or you're not whatever. Dogs

00:43:46.619 --> 00:43:49.920
are always going to be that op. opportunistic

00:43:49.920 --> 00:43:56.440
animal. And it's like, if you don't, yeah, I'm

00:43:56.440 --> 00:44:00.659
super, super off on a rabbit hole now. But one

00:44:00.659 --> 00:44:02.840
of the ways I'll, I'll just finish with this.

00:44:02.900 --> 00:44:06.119
One of the ways, and I'm mostly talking to like

00:44:06.119 --> 00:44:08.559
my clients that are like listening right now,

00:44:08.639 --> 00:44:13.820
a new way that I've started explaining some of

00:44:13.820 --> 00:44:19.409
the like recall and obedience. pet owners is

00:44:19.409 --> 00:44:25.110
this. To get a dog to come back to you, to get

00:44:25.110 --> 00:44:27.730
a dog to sit, to get a dog to down, to get a

00:44:27.730 --> 00:44:32.210
dog to listen to you, you require whatever, if

00:44:32.210 --> 00:44:35.489
we put it into dollars and currency so that it

00:44:35.489 --> 00:44:39.389
makes sense, if you ask the dog for a $20 task,

00:44:39.949 --> 00:44:45.130
whatever that is, let's say it's come. It costs

00:44:45.130 --> 00:44:51.150
you $20 of something of this dog attention currency

00:44:51.150 --> 00:44:57.389
to break the dog's cycle of whatever it is that

00:44:57.389 --> 00:44:59.670
they're thinking of and turn towards you and

00:44:59.670 --> 00:45:04.670
come back to you. You have the ability to either

00:45:04.670 --> 00:45:11.190
provide a $20 reward. That entices the dog is

00:45:11.190 --> 00:45:13.809
like, oh, cool. I'm going to come and get that.

00:45:15.070 --> 00:45:21.789
Or you have to build $15 worth of relationship

00:45:21.789 --> 00:45:28.110
so that then you only need a $5 reward. That

00:45:28.110 --> 00:45:32.409
$5 reward might just be good boy. Oh, good job.

00:45:33.769 --> 00:45:37.579
But the reason why that now works. is because

00:45:37.579 --> 00:45:40.920
you built a relationship that fills the other

00:45:40.920 --> 00:45:46.820
$15 worth of void. And that relationship is,

00:45:46.940 --> 00:45:50.519
hey, I love doing stuff with my mom. I love doing

00:45:50.519 --> 00:45:54.239
stuff with my dad. I just can't wait to do the

00:45:54.239 --> 00:45:56.760
next thing, whatever it is, because it's so exciting

00:45:56.760 --> 00:46:02.039
and I love my life. That is $15 worth of your

00:46:02.039 --> 00:46:06.320
$20 ask, if that makes sense. Yeah. Hopefully

00:46:06.320 --> 00:46:09.510
it does. All right. All right. Now we're back

00:46:09.510 --> 00:46:12.849
on track. Back to place. All right. So things

00:46:12.849 --> 00:46:16.969
that you can use place for in real life. I'm

00:46:16.969 --> 00:46:21.190
getting a side eye. So you can use it during

00:46:21.190 --> 00:46:23.769
mealtimes to prevent begging or crowding. Always

00:46:23.769 --> 00:46:25.869
a big one with dogs like hovering around the

00:46:25.869 --> 00:46:28.550
table, right? Yeah. Sending them to place. It's

00:46:28.550 --> 00:46:31.989
going to be a great one. When guests arrive to

00:46:31.989 --> 00:46:35.869
prevent jumping and overexcitement, people. inevitably

00:46:35.869 --> 00:46:38.489
all the time we see clients and it's always dogs

00:46:38.489 --> 00:46:43.329
pummeling guests right yeah huge one of does

00:46:43.329 --> 00:46:45.789
your dog have a place but does he go to their

00:46:45.789 --> 00:46:49.130
place building in that guest protocol where it's

00:46:49.130 --> 00:46:52.110
doorbell rings dog goes to place yep and we can

00:46:52.110 --> 00:46:55.550
we can do that easily these days yeah doorbells

00:46:55.550 --> 00:46:58.449
you can pretty much ring them on your phone a

00:46:58.449 --> 00:47:02.539
lot of times yeah um And and even if not, you

00:47:02.539 --> 00:47:05.500
can create a distraction. You, you know, slip

00:47:05.500 --> 00:47:08.260
a hand outside, ring the doorbell and then act

00:47:08.260 --> 00:47:12.559
like you're going to get it. And the dog doesn't

00:47:12.559 --> 00:47:16.460
just go to place and come off place as soon as

00:47:16.460 --> 00:47:18.699
the guest comes in. Right. If your dog is level

00:47:18.699 --> 00:47:22.179
10 excited when a guest comes in, that dog has

00:47:22.179 --> 00:47:24.820
to stay on place until they are brought down

00:47:24.820 --> 00:47:27.420
to like a one or a two or whatever is an acceptable.

00:47:28.440 --> 00:47:31.239
level of excitement for the guest because if

00:47:31.239 --> 00:47:33.980
they come off at a 10 of their place they're

00:47:33.980 --> 00:47:36.320
just gonna be at a 10 or a 12 by the time they

00:47:36.320 --> 00:47:39.619
get to the guest yeah definitely um using it

00:47:39.619 --> 00:47:42.000
during kids play time or busy household moments

00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:44.760
to create calm structure that's a really big

00:47:44.760 --> 00:47:49.460
one like we have a lot of dogs that we see like

00:47:49.460 --> 00:47:51.400
with kids and things like that where they're

00:47:51.400 --> 00:47:54.400
not the most comfortable with kids or you know

00:47:54.400 --> 00:47:58.780
they just don't like kids or any of that um they

00:47:58.780 --> 00:48:02.420
just don't like you know guests coming over all

00:48:02.420 --> 00:48:07.519
of those things can be managed with a place bed

00:48:07.519 --> 00:48:11.780
giving that space to your dog and saying hey

00:48:11.780 --> 00:48:14.039
this is your space to go relax while all this

00:48:14.039 --> 00:48:16.440
chaos is going on you don't have to participate

00:48:16.440 --> 00:48:20.300
in it yeah and the dog Feeling like that is their

00:48:20.300 --> 00:48:22.480
option and their choice to be like, cool, I'm

00:48:22.480 --> 00:48:25.280
going to go over here and relax. Yeah. Gives

00:48:25.280 --> 00:48:28.659
them that security to not be stressed about the

00:48:28.659 --> 00:48:30.900
situation because dogs a lot of times don't want

00:48:30.900 --> 00:48:33.679
to be involved in the chaos. You see a dog ping

00:48:33.679 --> 00:48:36.960
ponging off of people in like a house party or

00:48:36.960 --> 00:48:40.099
whatever it is, a family get together because

00:48:40.099 --> 00:48:42.719
the dog is excited by all the energy going on.

00:48:42.800 --> 00:48:46.280
Yeah. Getting them a place bed to go to gets

00:48:46.280 --> 00:48:49.460
them out of that energy level. And brings them

00:48:49.460 --> 00:48:51.679
down to where they need to be. Right. And we

00:48:51.679 --> 00:48:55.099
can gradually increase the distractions. Yeah.

00:48:56.599 --> 00:49:02.820
As we build proficiency in that. Yeah. So then

00:49:02.820 --> 00:49:06.099
having people walk up and pet your dog while

00:49:06.099 --> 00:49:09.400
they're on place is actually a reality instead

00:49:09.400 --> 00:49:16.900
of just like a pipe dream. Yep. Release patterns.

00:49:17.559 --> 00:49:22.380
Let's talk about those. So when we build a release

00:49:22.380 --> 00:49:27.159
with a dog, it's really important of how we pattern

00:49:27.159 --> 00:49:29.199
that. And the reason is because of classical

00:49:29.199 --> 00:49:33.059
conditioning. So classical conditioning is the

00:49:33.059 --> 00:49:37.960
process of creating something the dog doesn't

00:49:37.960 --> 00:49:40.920
have control over but can predict something that's

00:49:40.920 --> 00:49:47.960
important to the dog. The Pavlov's dogs was an

00:49:47.960 --> 00:49:52.260
example of classical conditioning where he rang

00:49:52.260 --> 00:49:56.119
the bell and the dogs then got the food. And

00:49:56.119 --> 00:49:58.280
they rang the bell and then gave him the food.

00:49:58.920 --> 00:50:03.260
And after a whole bunch of times, the dogs did

00:50:03.260 --> 00:50:05.719
not have control over the fact that when they

00:50:05.719 --> 00:50:09.159
heard the bell, they began salivating because

00:50:09.159 --> 00:50:13.019
they predicted that the food was about to arrive.

00:50:14.090 --> 00:50:17.349
Now, we can use that same concept for the place

00:50:17.349 --> 00:50:21.150
bed release in that instead of releasing the

00:50:21.150 --> 00:50:24.889
dog from a distance across the room and randomly

00:50:24.889 --> 00:50:27.230
just being like, okay, you're free, go ahead

00:50:27.230 --> 00:50:31.030
and get up. Instead, we can do either a contact

00:50:31.030 --> 00:50:34.150
release or proximity release is what we would

00:50:34.150 --> 00:50:39.130
call it. What that means is where I walk to the

00:50:39.130 --> 00:50:44.650
dog and then either touch them, like on the head

00:50:44.650 --> 00:50:47.230
like give them a pet and say okay now you can

00:50:47.230 --> 00:50:50.190
get up or that would be a contact release where

00:50:50.190 --> 00:50:53.389
i actually physically touch them and then release

00:50:53.389 --> 00:50:57.389
them or proximity meaning i walk directly to

00:50:57.389 --> 00:50:59.550
them and then once i'm within that one arm's

00:50:59.550 --> 00:51:05.530
distance then i release them what that does is

00:51:05.530 --> 00:51:14.630
the you walking over there becomes the precursor

00:51:14.630 --> 00:51:18.809
to the release that's really important because

00:51:18.809 --> 00:51:24.309
otherwise the dog will predict or self -release

00:51:24.309 --> 00:51:29.170
more often Because they'll be like, I think he

00:51:29.170 --> 00:51:33.070
said free. I think I heard it. I heard it. And

00:51:33.070 --> 00:51:35.170
they come running off and they're like, yeah,

00:51:35.190 --> 00:51:37.869
I heard it, right? And you're like, no. And then

00:51:37.869 --> 00:51:40.389
you have to go back and put them on place. So

00:51:40.389 --> 00:51:43.769
we can avoid that by only releasing our dogs

00:51:43.769 --> 00:51:47.690
once after we have walked up towards them and

00:51:47.690 --> 00:51:50.210
either touch them if you're using a contact release

00:51:50.210 --> 00:51:53.349
or you've gotten very close to them as a proximity

00:51:53.349 --> 00:51:57.849
release. That way they will. Only predict that

00:51:57.849 --> 00:52:00.510
release is coming at the point where you've walked

00:52:00.510 --> 00:52:03.469
all the way up to them. Yeah. I think that's

00:52:03.469 --> 00:52:06.570
a much more successful strategy than releasing

00:52:06.570 --> 00:52:15.050
your dog across the room. All right. I am looking

00:52:15.050 --> 00:52:20.989
at this. What signs show that? What would you

00:52:20.989 --> 00:52:27.159
be looking for in the dog as proof? that we can

00:52:27.159 --> 00:52:30.599
start building longer durations what are you

00:52:30.599 --> 00:52:36.500
looking for i mean i'm looking for a quite significant

00:52:36.500 --> 00:52:41.099
string of like successful reps of them and usually

00:52:41.099 --> 00:52:45.500
i build it out right i i build in like some quick

00:52:45.500 --> 00:52:49.780
yes or continuation markers and then give them

00:52:49.780 --> 00:52:53.619
free so i will kind of increase it with that

00:52:54.960 --> 00:52:57.400
Along with adding just like one to two steps

00:52:57.400 --> 00:53:00.639
into my distance and making sure those are successful

00:53:00.639 --> 00:53:03.940
before I move on to like letting go of the leash

00:53:03.940 --> 00:53:07.380
or anything like that. So yeah, I kind of build

00:53:07.380 --> 00:53:10.920
in duration and distance at the same time, but

00:53:10.920 --> 00:53:14.440
only like one to two steps at a time. So typically

00:53:14.440 --> 00:53:17.559
I'll take one step back. mark with a yes step

00:53:17.559 --> 00:53:20.699
forward and as they're eating the treat still

00:53:20.699 --> 00:53:24.000
i will then take two steps and then i will mark

00:53:24.000 --> 00:53:28.340
and move forward and and reward so that way i'm

00:53:28.340 --> 00:53:30.380
getting some distance while the dog is pretty

00:53:30.380 --> 00:53:33.079
much distracted by eating the treat in the very

00:53:33.079 --> 00:53:36.260
very beginning so then i can build that distance

00:53:36.260 --> 00:53:38.659
and duration at the same time but i'm talking

00:53:38.659 --> 00:53:42.920
like Right. And like many steps. And if the dog

00:53:42.920 --> 00:53:45.920
breaks, when I take two steps back, I go back

00:53:45.920 --> 00:53:48.500
to taking one step back and I rep that out a

00:53:48.500 --> 00:53:53.000
couple of times. Yeah. So that's right. You alluded

00:53:53.000 --> 00:53:56.139
to my favorite way to build duration is actually

00:53:56.139 --> 00:54:01.679
to rely on distance first. And so what that distance

00:54:01.679 --> 00:54:04.860
you people hear distance. They're like, oh, yeah,

00:54:04.940 --> 00:54:06.500
like across the room. And I'm like, no, no, no.

00:54:06.780 --> 00:54:10.900
Like one to two steps. Yeah. Because the amount

00:54:10.900 --> 00:54:13.900
of time that it takes you to take that one or

00:54:13.900 --> 00:54:18.159
two steps back automatically starts to build

00:54:18.159 --> 00:54:21.559
those small little micro duration increases.

00:54:22.000 --> 00:54:28.019
Yeah. And movement always attracts dogs. So by

00:54:28.019 --> 00:54:31.780
you moving back and them holding that impulse

00:54:31.780 --> 00:54:35.719
control and not leaving their place bed. You

00:54:35.719 --> 00:54:38.780
can immediately move forward and I can start,

00:54:38.860 --> 00:54:41.360
I can basically do three things at once, right?

00:54:41.719 --> 00:54:46.940
My distance is building duration and it's also

00:54:46.940 --> 00:54:51.519
conditioning that proximity release. So by me

00:54:51.519 --> 00:54:55.960
backing up and never releasing them while I'm

00:54:55.960 --> 00:55:00.619
away from them, they start to see that, oh, regardless

00:55:00.619 --> 00:55:03.690
of how much he backs up, I have to wait until

00:55:03.690 --> 00:55:07.110
he walks back forward. So that's really helpful.

00:55:07.309 --> 00:55:11.230
Number two, the slower I walk, I can use the

00:55:11.230 --> 00:55:13.949
same amount of distance, but I can still increase

00:55:13.949 --> 00:55:18.849
the duration. And so I can use my win on the

00:55:18.849 --> 00:55:21.670
distance side or on the distance metric here

00:55:21.670 --> 00:55:24.929
to actually increase the duration at the same

00:55:24.929 --> 00:55:28.630
time. So yeah, that's the science behind it.

00:55:28.789 --> 00:55:33.679
Okay. Uh, I am going to, that's my last point

00:55:33.679 --> 00:55:36.539
that I've got for tonight on the place bed. I've

00:55:36.539 --> 00:55:39.619
got two listener projects, but before we jump

00:55:39.619 --> 00:55:44.460
into that, I'm going to, um, play my jeopardy

00:55:44.460 --> 00:55:48.159
music and, I'm going to open it up for questions.

00:55:48.719 --> 00:55:52.920
Anybody has a question? I'm going to unmute everybody

00:55:52.920 --> 00:55:56.280
here. What do we got? Happy new year, everybody.

00:55:57.400 --> 00:56:04.980
Yeah. Happy New Year. Hey, Heidi. Hey, I have

00:56:04.980 --> 00:56:08.219
a question. We have two place beds in the house.

00:56:08.480 --> 00:56:14.699
OK. Is it should we be calling both of them a

00:56:14.699 --> 00:56:16.960
place better? Do you think that's creating confusion

00:56:16.960 --> 00:56:21.099
for Maverick? So I think it would only be confusing

00:56:21.099 --> 00:56:25.380
if you're if you're using only the verbal and

00:56:25.380 --> 00:56:29.119
just being like, go to your place. I think that

00:56:29.119 --> 00:56:32.039
if you're using any type of body language that

00:56:32.039 --> 00:56:36.059
I've never had major issues with that. If I just

00:56:36.059 --> 00:56:39.780
most of the dogs that we run through any of our

00:56:39.780 --> 00:56:43.920
programs, we do use multiple place beds in like

00:56:43.920 --> 00:56:45.940
a living room setup. We'll have like four or

00:56:45.940 --> 00:56:49.579
five and I'll have them go place over here and

00:56:49.579 --> 00:56:52.659
I'll point to it and then place over there and

00:56:52.659 --> 00:56:55.480
I'll point to it place over here because the

00:56:55.480 --> 00:57:00.579
way that I want to use place. Hey, what I'm pointing

00:57:00.579 --> 00:57:04.000
to here, I want you to put your paws on it and

00:57:04.000 --> 00:57:08.800
stay there. Yeah. Gotcha. And so I will almost

00:57:08.800 --> 00:57:14.800
never just send a dog to place with verbal only.

00:57:15.260 --> 00:57:19.320
And the reason for that is because I use it interchangeably

00:57:19.320 --> 00:57:23.460
and I can use it with my dogs at the point where

00:57:23.460 --> 00:57:28.199
they fully understand it. I can. point to a couch

00:57:28.199 --> 00:57:32.340
cushion or on a chair or on a bench. And I can

00:57:32.340 --> 00:57:36.440
be like place and tap on like a picnic bench

00:57:36.440 --> 00:57:38.599
and they'll jump up on the picnic bench and then,

00:57:38.639 --> 00:57:40.840
you know, lay down or, or put their paws there

00:57:40.840 --> 00:57:44.820
and, and stand there. That is how I like to use

00:57:44.820 --> 00:57:48.260
place. So I don't think that you are, I don't

00:57:48.260 --> 00:57:51.619
think you need a whole nother command unless

00:57:51.619 --> 00:57:56.599
that. works for you and, and you want to have

00:57:56.599 --> 00:58:02.599
a different command. No, that makes sense. Cool.

00:58:04.000 --> 00:58:08.360
Thank you. Yeah, no problem. I hope that Maverick

00:58:08.360 --> 00:58:13.900
feels better with his, his poor, I saw a picture

00:58:13.900 --> 00:58:18.989
of him earlier. He looked so sad. But I know

00:58:18.989 --> 00:58:22.489
he'll pull through, right? He's got the cone,

00:58:22.630 --> 00:58:26.710
the cone of shame. But he'll pull through. He'll

00:58:26.710 --> 00:58:31.349
be good. I'm sure he will. All right. Does anybody

00:58:31.349 --> 00:58:41.050
else have a question tonight? All right. I'm

00:58:41.050 --> 00:58:44.289
going to jump in. Feel free to jump. jump in

00:58:44.289 --> 00:58:46.670
here if you're working on finding the the mute

00:58:46.670 --> 00:58:50.750
button i'm gonna jump into listener projects

00:58:50.750 --> 00:58:57.250
uh listener project number one so we we actually

00:58:57.250 --> 00:59:00.090
detailed this uh pretty well but introduction

00:59:00.090 --> 00:59:07.349
to place if you um when you're when you're using

00:59:07.349 --> 00:59:10.690
place and so i'll refer back to kind of our initial

00:59:10.690 --> 00:59:14.469
instructions The project here is actually going

00:59:14.469 --> 00:59:21.849
to be try to incorporate a toy or chew or an

00:59:21.849 --> 00:59:28.429
activity for a dog to only get to do on their

00:59:28.429 --> 00:59:32.019
place bed. And so what that looks like is you,

00:59:32.179 --> 00:59:35.059
uh, you place, uh, let's talk about like a little

00:59:35.059 --> 00:59:38.559
chew bone or something. So I'll take these, we

00:59:38.559 --> 00:59:41.900
use the Himalayan yak chews or the, the yak cheese

00:59:41.900 --> 00:59:45.400
chews a lot. Um, cause they're very, very simple,

00:59:45.480 --> 00:59:48.300
very highly digestible. Um, there's only like

00:59:48.300 --> 00:59:52.039
three ingredients in them. So they, I'll take

00:59:52.039 --> 00:59:54.000
one of those and I'll put it on the place bed

00:59:54.000 --> 01:00:01.670
and then dog goes onto the place. your dog grabs

01:00:01.670 --> 01:00:05.349
the toy or the treat or whatever and leaves the

01:00:05.349 --> 01:00:09.550
place bed, you just quietly walk over, take it

01:00:09.550 --> 01:00:11.929
away from them, and just put it right back on

01:00:11.929 --> 01:00:13.690
their place bed. You don't even have to say anything.

01:00:15.090 --> 01:00:18.150
About two or three times of that, the dog's like,

01:00:18.329 --> 01:00:20.489
well, I'm tired of you taking that thing away

01:00:20.489 --> 01:00:25.510
from me. But every time, they just keep dropping

01:00:25.510 --> 01:00:29.099
it right back here on the place. It doesn't take,

01:00:29.139 --> 01:00:31.639
I have, I have never seen it take very long for

01:00:31.639 --> 01:00:34.719
a dog to be like, okay, I'll just eat it here.

01:00:34.800 --> 01:00:38.039
Yeah. Right. It's like, well, they're not taking

01:00:38.039 --> 01:00:41.000
it away from me when I'm eating it on here. So

01:00:41.000 --> 01:00:45.079
I'll just eat it right here. Boom. That, that

01:00:45.079 --> 01:00:48.460
is the whole enchilada right there. Yeah. So

01:00:48.460 --> 01:00:52.659
super easy to incorporate. You can, you can introduce

01:00:52.659 --> 01:00:54.719
the place bed the way that we talked about earlier

01:00:54.719 --> 01:00:58.869
in the episode. And then you can use it in that

01:00:58.869 --> 01:01:02.630
way. Project number two, three minute calm session.

01:01:03.030 --> 01:01:06.769
Place your dog on the bed and stay nearby in

01:01:06.769 --> 01:01:09.929
the same room. And then just reward the dog periodically

01:01:09.929 --> 01:01:12.489
as they stay calm and relaxed. So using that

01:01:12.489 --> 01:01:14.230
distance, that duration that we were talking

01:01:14.230 --> 01:01:19.110
about, just walk away a little bit, hold it,

01:01:19.210 --> 01:01:23.030
and then walk back to the dog and drop a little

01:01:23.030 --> 01:01:25.699
treat right on their place bed. Yep. Let them

01:01:25.699 --> 01:01:28.139
eat it. And then just work through that. You

01:01:28.139 --> 01:01:31.119
can slowly build up that duration until you get

01:01:31.119 --> 01:01:34.940
to about that three minute mark. Three to five

01:01:34.940 --> 01:01:37.980
minutes is a good amount to start with before

01:01:37.980 --> 01:01:41.739
you start making things too complicated. So try

01:01:41.739 --> 01:01:44.199
to make it to that three minute mark. Release.

01:01:44.320 --> 01:01:48.619
We use free as a treat release. And then the

01:01:48.619 --> 01:01:51.719
dog flies back to us. grabs that treat from us

01:01:51.719 --> 01:01:54.199
and then is able to do whatever they want so

01:01:54.199 --> 01:01:57.980
uh we use so go ahead and release a dog with

01:01:57.980 --> 01:02:01.579
free and but make sure that we're only really

01:02:01.579 --> 01:02:03.900
releasing the dog when we're building duration

01:02:03.900 --> 01:02:06.840
we don't want to release the dog while they're

01:02:06.840 --> 01:02:09.840
doing the little tippy tappy like pause right

01:02:09.840 --> 01:02:12.239
while they're like vibrating because a guest

01:02:12.239 --> 01:02:15.380
is over that's a bad time to just release your

01:02:15.380 --> 01:02:18.179
dog because they're just gonna fly off of there

01:02:18.179 --> 01:02:21.880
yeah so Wait for the calm, wait for those, that

01:02:21.880 --> 01:02:26.340
relaxation and then release and watch how your

01:02:26.340 --> 01:02:29.139
dog's body language stays much, much more calm.

01:02:29.280 --> 01:02:33.500
Yep. All right. That is all I've got for episode

01:02:33.500 --> 01:02:38.460
15. Uh, thank you for joining us tonight. I'm

01:02:38.460 --> 01:02:41.420
going to sign off of here pretty quickly. Um,

01:02:41.519 --> 01:02:45.679
we got next week. I'm trying to remember what

01:02:45.679 --> 01:02:47.980
is coming up next week. I think it's sitting

01:02:47.980 --> 01:02:50.599
down. Yeah. So we're going through the rest of

01:02:50.599 --> 01:02:52.400
the obedience commands. We're going to talk about

01:02:52.400 --> 01:02:55.199
sitting down and incorporating those. They'll

01:02:55.199 --> 01:02:58.179
kind of incorporate back in here to place and

01:02:58.179 --> 01:03:01.719
stuff. But at the end of the day, my biggest,

01:03:01.800 --> 01:03:04.619
biggest thing is that you've got to build your

01:03:04.619 --> 01:03:06.739
relationship with your dog. If you don't build

01:03:06.739 --> 01:03:08.860
that relationship, you're not going to have that

01:03:08.860 --> 01:03:12.420
currency that you can exchange for your dog's

01:03:12.420 --> 01:03:16.150
behavior. Yeah. All right. All right. that's

01:03:16.150 --> 01:03:18.510
all i got thanks guys for tuning in thanks good

01:03:18.510 --> 01:03:19.809
night we'll see you next week
