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back to Pawprint Academy. So today, this is a
bonus episode. And today, we've got a special
guest joining us. Her name is Sierra, and she
is the owner of Summit Kennels. So she's a military
veteran and a leader in the local dog training
community. She's someone whose experience spans
from tactical canine work to helping everyday
families build better dogs. And I've admired
her professionalism, her dedication to the craft,
and the impact that she continues to make in
our region. And because of all that, I wanted
to invite her onto our podcast. So this interview
is going to be about... learning from her journey
and celebrating her success with her business
specifically. It's kind of a spotlight on local
dog training companies and owners and really
showing listeners what true collaboration in
the dog training industry looks like. And so
with that, Sierra, welcome. Yeah, thanks for
having me. So today, the goal of today really
is just to kind of... interview you a little
bit and give you kind of a platform not that
we have uh you know all seven of our listeners
um but to give you a platform to talk a little
bit about your business and and the things that
um you know your experience in not just the dog
training community but also like your journey
through you know growing into this community
and like where you came from sounds good Um,
so with that, right. Um, the first kind of question
that I, uh, had written down to kind of guide
our discussion is, is really about your career
journey. And so that's what originally sparked
your interest in working with dogs. And like,
how did that evolve into building Summit Kennels?
Um, so I think starting out, um, what really
got me into like the dog training was my first
dog ever, started doing agility. At the time,
though, I didn't really think of it as a future
career. It was more of just like a really fun
hobby that I was super into. But then ended up
joining the military, was lucky enough to get
into the canine field, and that's when I really
just kind of thought of it more as a career,
what I wanted to do even when I got out, and
then getting into Summit Kennels. I didn't actually
found Summit Kennels, the founder I started working
for. And yeah, that's where I'm at now. So when
did you when did you take over? I took over the
beginning of this year. Oh, wow. Nice. So how
really has your experience in the military shaped
the way that you train dogs or kind of the way
that you lead your business? So I think just
being able to watch all of the different. training
styles out there from different people like all
of the courses i've been able to go to um team
my trainers everything like that's really just
kind of helped because before that i was just
kind of like oh this is how i've trained my one
dog and agility specifically i had my kind of
like my own style so it really just broadened
um so many different ways for me did you get
into the agility thing with just your dog like
before um you started doing this professionally
Yep. Just my dog. I had worked with a lot of
other teams cause we were in our own like little
community. So I worked and helped a lot of other
like trainers and teams, but yeah, it was just,
just the agility field. I gotcha. Right. I, I,
I don't really know anything about that. Like
I've never gotten into that field before. They
run real fast. They do zigzags. Right. Where
did you, um, do you do that? Did you learn that
locally or is that before you moved? Um, before
I moved, so I actually grew up in Colorado. Okay.
Um, and yeah, it competed all over the state
of Colorado, AKC, USDA. Um, but yeah, I did that
for quite a few years. Is that a dog that you
still have? No. Okay. Fortunately not. I gotcha.
Um, what about on the tactical canine experience?
Um, so you've worked in tactical and military,
like working dog environments. What lessons?
uh from that world still influence you know your
training philosophies today obviously like the
the agility work i'm sure you you've learned
different lessons and things on like how to to
pattern certain skill sets um what about on the
the tactical canine side i think what i learned
a lot from the military and just like that the
training and everything is just honestly like
structure like beforehand like growing up dogs
and everything like Our household didn't have
that. Like our dog just kind of did. Obviously,
I had a really strong bond with my dog. She's
very well, like very obedient and everything.
But just realizing and just the safety that comes
with structure, like that was new to me. And
that's definitely helped. It helps most dogs
that I worked with now is just the structure.
Yeah. Right. I think that's a big missing piece.
But I bet the structure is like on another level.
Right. Yes. Because you're dealing with dogs
that are going to like eat your face off. And
it's not even just like here with just pet dogs,
like structure is a big thing. But in the military,
like there's so many, like we use these dogs
as weapons. So there's a lot of things that go
into play for that. So how many years did you
do that? Four. Four. So yeah, you're just like
living and breathing that like every day. Yes.
It was fun. Yeah. Miss it. I bet. Um, we had,
um, we had an NPC handler come on the show a
while back and there were things he was talking
about. It's like, well, when you're like standing
outside of, uh, you know, like a target building
and you're, and then you have like a Kong in
your hand, you're like, where, what am I doing
here? What am I doing with this? And, uh, he's
going crazy and you're like, yeah, yeah. Good
job. Good job. So. Yeah, totally different experience
because obviously our entire brand is geared
towards pet dogs, home dogs. And so you're right.
People have a very different view of it. It's
like my dog won't sit. Yeah, it took a minute
to get used to, but it's all in all the same.
I love that. What has been the most rewarding
part of being both a woman owned business and
a veteran owned business? Uh, have you met any
or met and overcome any specific struggles through
your growth as a dog trainer or, um, has that
really not been a factor? Um, not really. As
far as like the dog trainer factor, I think honestly
the biggest thing with, um, And not even being
with a woman factor, I think a lot of people,
I've gotten just the vibe. People are like, oh,
it's a female dog trainer. She's just like, oh,
loves dogs, things like that. So just proving
kind of like, hey, I have this background with
all of this. So you do get that a little bit,
I've come to realize. And then just, I'm a mom,
so he's with me. So just kind of juggling all
of that. business right super busy it's chaotic
um so because you run you run the entire business
right um or do you have like a business partner
or do you you you just you run the operations
you're the ceo the coo the yeah all of it branch
out like my uh advertising like you guys take
care of that so that takes a lot of stress off
a little bit but still there's with that I gotcha.
But yeah. What do you, um, with, with that, have
you ever owned another business? Is this the
first one that you took over? This is the first
one that I've owned, like a legit, legitimate
business. Um, I have my own, I've got another
like side business going on. Um, it's a health
and wellness. Awesome. Gig. But yeah. First.
First business. Awesome. When, what would you
say? So when we talk about like Summit Kennels
mission, right? When people ask what makes Summit
Kennels different, what would you share with
them? So like, I guess the second question, what
would you say is your key difference? What makes
Summit Kennels different in the dog training
market? I think just because the Summit Kennels
as a whole, whether it be me, the founder. our
trainers just in general, like we have such a
serious and wide variety of training and that
we've been through. So not even just the styles,
but different backgrounds from agility work to
like military work, canine work, bite work, detection,
like it's someone knows it. So just having that
wide variety, I think really sets us apart. gotcha
is there any specific like is there any dogs
that you don't do or you don't take or that like
no no we don't touch that for instance right
top dog training we only we only do pet dogs
so yeah right now we're only really catered toward
just the pet dog so we have people that we work
with that do like the bite work and everything
like that um and we'll go and treat that more
of like a lesson work with them but we don't
have the gear so as long as you guys you have
the experience with that but we can like we can
work with you we can train with you but we just
don't have the facility one and then the equipment
to do that i gotcha um how about on the training
philosophy side like if you had to sum up your
training philosophy in like one or two sentences,
what would, what would it be? Probably working
with your dogs. Like we want clear, confident,
fulfilling training, like for every dog, no matter
what kind of dog you have, what your training
lifestyle is, what your plans, like that's what
we want. Like we want to help you on that. A
lot of dogs struggle with. confidence and but
then the owners on their part just having that
clear communication with their dogs is what kind
of sets them up right that's what we we we say
that like communication is huge right and if
you can't communicate with your dog it's impossible
for you to train your dog it literally a lot
of people struggle with it right right so on
the with all the canine experience is there a
difference that you found in like this is a better
way to like communicate with your dog or like
how, how has that influenced that? That like
baseline, right? It sounds like, I guess those
foundational concepts are like super important
to you. What is something that you've learned
on the canine or the tactical canine side that
you could bring into the pet training side? Just
honestly, like, having you like well for one
the dog wants to work for you like every working
dog I've worked with like they're just obsessed
with doing their job and it is a training mindset
that these dogs have to have so like on the pet
side a lot of dogs don't have that training mindset
so that's what's kind of blocking like that is
something you have to teach a dog that's something
you have to train and a lot of clients don't
have that structure they don't have that atmosphere
going on so that's right there it's already kind
of blocking gotcha um what if you had to give
top three advice for first dog owner from your
perspective what would it be like if they don't
have a dog yet they just well i guess like first
dog owner um they're you get that that random
call that's uh every dog training company gets
it they're like i've had my dog First six days.
Yeah. I just got my dog. I know it needs training.
I want you to train my dog. Typically on our
side, we we recommend that they spend about 90
days. Yeah. Right. Like getting to know their
dog, like building a relationship with their
dog and like creating. some of these like foundational
concepts in our like communication and our relationship
um so that in mind what would your top three
things that an own a first dog owner could work
on with their dog what would that be first starting
out bonding time like gain that trust with your
dog gain that um one -on -one with them you want
a lot of reps like for me like say you just got
a puppy I'm not even huge into the obedience
right away a lot of people are like I want to
hop on obedience like right away I want my puppy
really well trained and it's like there's so
much you can do beforehand just exposure um socialization
bonding time working on just long line drills
I'm huge into long line drills so um really just
doing that and but making like You have to make
time throughout the day to work with a lot of
dogs. Some people are just really bad with it.
They're like, oh, I just don't have time. They
work all day. I get it. Everyone works, but you
can still have those little times where you really
take time out of your day and just work with
that dog. Right. We inevitably get the nine -to
-fivers, and they're like, well, I just get home,
and then I've got to feed them dinner. It's like
having kids, right? When you get home, it's like,
I don't have time to play with them. It's like,
cool, but you've got to take five minutes. you
gotta take five five ten minutes like that's
it and the one thing we notice i think in most
dog owners or pet dog owners is like they don't
know how to play with their dog no that and that's
something i honestly struggle with sometimes
i've gotten better with it but um teaching people
how to play with their dog and yeah engaging
like a lot of people the dog the dog loves working
with me like completely different dog yeah they
go over the ends because they don't know how
to engage with their dog Sometimes we tell people,
we're like, you're boring. What are you doing?
You're boring as hell. They hate that. I wouldn't
want to play with you. You don't seem fun. If
you're not fun, your dog is like, be fun. I want
fun. I want fun. So show me fun. And you'll be
surprised how much your dog actually does engage
with you as soon as you're fun, as soon as you're
exciting. Super underrated concept. What's like
a skill or memory from the previous like high
stress environment world that you used to work
in? Not that dog training is really low stress,
but because they're always doing something wazoo.
But what's like working in that high stress environment
of the tactical side? teaches you a lot about
reading your dogs like quickly right and what
would you say is like a skill or a memory from
that previous world that you think that like
a pet owner or a home dog owner could benefit
from timing okay timing is a big big thing especially
um for for me we would do like these scenarios
or just the military does training. And, um,
I would use to go into the black lot where something
stressful would start happening and I don't know
what to do. And I just would almost freeze and
you just, you gotta go, you gotta make those
decisions. Um, but then even for your dog, like
you gotta tell your dog what to do. Like timing,
timing is everything. You a couple seconds off,
make the wrong move and you're just, you're done
for. So, um, but even like in the pet, pet side,
like training, there's so much timing involved
with training. Yeah. I think people find it like
harder to own a dog than what it used to be.
Right. We always have clients that are like,
well, my dog back in the day, like they just
used to stay in the yard and they didn't run
off and I didn't have to put them on a leash
and they never barked at other dogs. And it's
like, right. How's this dog doing? Yeah. They're
like, well, it's a lot crazier. Right. It's not
1942 anymore. We have terrible genetics in the
dog pool. It's bad. People are just like, well,
I just don't know how to work with this dog.
And it's like, yeah, there's it's just it's so
different than what it used to be. But inevitably,
we always get an owner that got a dog and they're
like, well, it's not like my last dog. My last
dog wanted to be with me. My last dog wouldn't
go anywhere. My last dog wouldn't bark at another
dog. It's like, right. But this dog is not that
dog. You always have that one golden dog. And
then, yeah, second couple dogs down. Right. I'm
in the same boat. I had a great dog. And now
and then I was like, oh, this dog looks like
that dog. Right. Not the same dog at all. What.
So what's a what's like a memorable dog story?
So every trainer's got that one dog that they'll
like never forget. What what's yours and what
did that dog teach you? I mean, I have quite
a few different. I probably have more just crazy
dogs where I'm like, damn, that's a way to do
it with pet training. But my first dog probably
taught me the most, just honestly my agility
dog, Molly, because I just didn't know anything
about training at all. So everything we were
doing, we were just learning as we went and a
lot of losses. But, yeah. I feel like I would
have zero idea what to do in agility, like scent
work. I feel like I'm a dog trainer. And if I
went into any of those situations, I'd be like,
what do I do with my hands? They're like whole
different worlds. I don't even know. What do
I do with this dog? Yeah. But once you start
getting it, like, and I think before that dog,
and she was a whole struggle case. Like she had
a lot of behavioral problems going on. So just,
I got a little bit of everything with that. She
was a border collie. Yeah. Rescued her. So she
was. She was a little cray -cray, but best dog.
But I learned a lot from her, honestly. What's
the funniest moment with a dog that you can recall?
Okay, I was going to say, Molly was pretty serious.
Let's see. My working dog, we would go on runs
on the sea while we had out in Japan. And one
time we got back, and we were just sitting. I
was just people watching, and this dog just starts
rolling down a hill. and just keeps going back
up, rolling down the hill, and just keeps doing
it. Oh, my gosh. Just dying laughing. 40 minutes.
Just rolled. He just would go up and just slide
down. Oh, just figured out that it's like, oh,
this is fun. I've seen videos of dogs doing that.
That's funny. Right. Talk about self -gratifying
behavior. So, like, actually, this is fun. I'm
going to do it again. Right. Self -gratifying
behavior. You don't need nobody. Yeah, you don't
need anybody. I can slide down this hill by myself.
Just having a great time. Love this. All right.
Love that. How about a challenge that you faced
when building Summit Kennels that kind of shaped
you into the trainer and the leader that you
are today? Probably, honestly, just the business
side of it. Because training, you're always learning.
There's always challenges. Every dog's different.
But the business side of it is really, honestly,
what got me. Wanted to work under someone initially.
That's why I was glad I was able to go under
Garrett for a little bit before because I've
always wanted to start my own. But just able
to work with him, kind of gauge it a little bit.
But yeah, that's a whole other thing. So you
have kind of shaped all of that and built a pretty
strong presence here locally. What impact do
you hope that Summit Kennels continues to have
on the community over the next few years? Honestly,
just a good, strong place that people can go
to. I love seeing even on the Facebook pages
and things like that where people drop Summit
Kennels. That's what I love. I want to just further
that. I obviously want to grow as a business,
but I never want to get super big. I never like
chain or anything like that. Just working with
more people in the community. We definitely want
to do some other training opportunities eventually
with like detection. I really want to get into
that and even like tracking. That's cool. As
far as that, I don't have any, like I'm not trying
to get crazy out of control. I was going to say,
you got any big plans you want to talk about?
Not anything crazy. All seven of our listeners.
I'll definitely be. In the UK. um definitely
be putting up like a bigger facility just on
our property nice and then um just to have more
of like an indoor training center and everything
um have like the detection side and just honestly
something that my clients who do want to continue
training and just kind of get into the routine
of things and they do want that and i want to
give that to them like hey do this um without
sending them to other people like i want to provide
that i gotcha um what so in your on the on the
subject of like collaboration and networking
what in your experience makes collaboration between
trainers powerful instead of competitive when
we first to kind of like lay the groundwork for
this question um when we first talked about socializing
the idea in the local community of like dog trainers
working together there's like immediately there's
always this apprehension of competition right
where it's like oh well these are my clients
or those clients or all of these things and and
uh the thing is that there's like a million dogs
around here there's so many dogs uh and and you
can't go anywhere without seeing a dog where
you're like i can help you i can help you and
and i don't say that like as an elitist i say
that as like uh like look just just a little
bit of communication could go so far because
your dog's looking to you for guidance your dog's
not even a bad dog it's just it's just looking
to you for guidance but you're but you don't
know how to communicate with them because no
one taught you to speak dog no one taught your
dog to speak english yeah this is like a real
easy thing we can work through um so um initially
There's kind of an automatic side -eye sizing
up of dog trainers when they get together. And
you see this at the IACP conferences and all
these other... I haven't been to some laundry
list of acronym different seminars and things.
it pains me to know that one of the running jokes
is in the dog training community is that the
only thing that five dog trainers will agree
on is that the sixth dog trainer is wrong, right?
Like when you, when you put a bunch of dog trainers
together, they will always disagree about something.
And I think that collaboration and networking
is super important. And I think that With the
really kind of tight knit military focus community
in the general area, it was just in the Camp
Lejeune, Hampstead, Sneeds Ferry like area. It's
very military heavy. And there's not really there's
not really a reason to be like that, I don't
think. So back to the question, what? Do you
see the like pros versus the cons? I think there's
a lot of good to it because I completely understand
there's a lot of people, just dog trainers who
do, like they immediately kind of like size you
up, which is natural, like we're human. But I
think it's good. Not only do you have like clients
that you can bring more into a community, like,
hey, if I can't help you, like, look, I've got
this huge team here. like with me um but then
also just you as a trainer as well as like owner
i can go and reach out to like hey like can we
help you set up those events just kind of work
together and it just brings a home of your vibe
honestly right and i heard you say that uh initially
that you didn't want to get too big and you wanted
that kind of like that supportive feel yes yeah
yeah we are super aligned on that same like concept,
right? I see a lot of value in collaboration
and I see a lot of value in how we can bring
value to the home and pet dog owner that way.
So super glad that you're kind of on the same
page with that. With advice to new dog owners,
what would you, we talked a little bit about
like what what you would tell a new dog owner
based on your like tactical canine experience.
But let's say that, um, someone got a brand new
dog and what's one piece of advice. If you just
had one piece of advice for them, what would
set them up for longterm success in your mind?
It's not dog training. Isn't just train it and
you're done. Um, it's continuous. Like it doesn't
matter. what you taught them like there's always
going to be different places new environments
um it just doesn't stop it is continuous and
a lot of people struggle with that they're like
why like with a board and train they go through
a board and train a lot of people get frustrated
like they're oh they're not doing it anymore
but since we had our turnover like you haven't
trained at all so I think a lot of people struggle
with like with that like training is continuous
and that's something like if you do want that
good and over time you probably will have to
do it less and less because it's so ingrained
in them on like what's expected um but just having
that constant oh i'm gonna do it for really hard
for a few days here and then not at all yeah
yeah for sure right consistency is key yep yeah
for sure uh what's your favorite skill to teach
um favorite command or behavior or something
recall or any weird trick honestly what is or
any weird trick yeah i don't know I've been teaching
a little mini Aussie to go around and then out
of things, which is actually a first for me because
I don't usually work with like the herding style
dogs. Oh, really? Yeah. And she just needs an
outlet. So I've been like doing those, which
I feel like is really fun. It's a first. Like
I said, it's a first for me. So little things
like that that I don't normally like get to do
with dogs because it's like I'm busy. teaching
them all the important things where he's just
like i just need something fun to do guys and
i'm like oh okay let's do some fun things no
because i i'm i'm bad i get bored so i'm like
yeah i get this talk and i'm like i could teach
you that real quick little weird things i like
doing it's like you bring it back it's like hey
they can turn off the light switch now they're
like what right right you're like why would you
want that no that they can turn it on too I taught
them both. Right. But how cool. The dogs over
there just. Yeah. Flipping it on. Electric super
high. So what's a, what's like a, like a funny
or unexpected or surprising thing that most people
wouldn't really guess about working with dogs
every day that comes up for you? I think most
people, well, cause you're. tell like what do
you do for a living oh i'm a dog trainer train
dogs they're like oh you're so lucky and right
yes i don't you get to work with dogs all day
yes yes i do they don't realize honestly how
much cleaning is involved and how much you work
like it's not just like oh i get to go play with
the dog for a little bit it's like it is all
day long yeah Right. Ours went to the beach today
and he smells like fish. Yeah. So we're like,
oh, now you. I've got a straight. Just made more
work for us. So glad you had that adventure.
People just think we pet dogs all day. They're
like, oh. Right. Yeah. We're not. Dogs not sitting
on the couch and I'm petting him. Yeah. I'm not.
I'm not. No. This is not Paulville. Totally different.
But I couldn't imagine working there either.
Because imagine the amount of noise coming out
of that place. I could hear them like a half
mile away. I believe it. And I'm like, oh, I
could not. Right. I think that the funniest byproduct
is communication, I think, for a dog trainer.
The way that people write those Facebook reels
of like what people think I do versus like what
I really do. And just the concept of communication.
Oh, you get to talk to dogs all day. And you're
like, no, don't do that. That builds anxiety.
I talk to no one all day. Right. Yeah. Because
you really. This is totally a sidetrack, but
we shouldn't be talking to the dogs because the
dogs don't understand you. So the concept that,
oh, it must be so nice to have this like, you
know, dog following you around. You have somebody
to talk to all day and you're like, no, don't
do that. That probably is why you need dog training
in the first place. Stop that. Yeah, that that
always cracks me up because I that's what I hear
a lot. Oh, you get to you get to work with dogs.
It's probably so nice to like just talk to dogs
all day. And you're like, no, no, totally different.
Don't do that. All right. How about really the
last thing I had written down and, and this could,
could branch off into whatever, but is your,
your future vision. So where do you see summit
kennels going next? And like what kind of partnerships
or projects like excite you about the future?
And, and this can go in, in whatever direction
you want. But, What do you got on the docket
coming up for you? Definitely putting up a bigger
facility for us just for the dogs, kind of separating
the business from home life a little bit because
right now it's kind of all integrated and lose
my cool sometimes a little bit at the end of
the day. So just kind of having that nice separation,
which I'm excited about, but then also we want
to partner with a shelter or something. Um, cause
when we do have the facility, we'll have a lot
more space. Yeah. So being able to take one or
two shelter dogs here and there and just kind
of work with them and help. Cause that would
be awesome. That's my goal too. Yeah. We have
a lot of shelter dogs that, um, would make it
great dogs. They just need a little help. And
sometimes you just have to get them out of the
shelter. Yeah. Literally just get them out, put
some foundation training on them, a little bit
of structure and they're going. Yeah. Love that.
What, um, so, and so finally, um, and then I'll
kind of open the floor to talk about whatever
you want. Um, what, what advice, let's transfer
this from dog owners to dog trainers. What advice
do you have for other dog trainers that might
listen or come across the podcast that, that
want to build what you've built, right? And what,
what you are continuing to kind of work on? Um,
Honestly, just get your hands on as many dogs
as you can, especially if you're first starting
out. You can watch as many trainer courses. You
can go to as many. But the real experience just
comes from dogs, like getting your hand on so
many different dogs. Whether you've been training
or you haven't, like I'm still learning. Every
dog I get, I swear there's something new I learn.
Yeah, every time. That's what's really going
to. going to help you nice i love that um yeah
i i totally agree with that right the the hands
-on experience that you get from dog after dog
after dog you just you learn something new like
every time i get to go and do a lesson or anytime
you get to go into someone else's house you see
something different you're like Why do you have
that? But they have it there because it made
sense to them. Yeah, I mean, you don't know what
you don't know. Right, exactly. So if you go
into every house, you're like, oh, this is all
messed up. You've got to do it this way and you've
got to do it that way. Then I think as a dog
trainer, you're missing out because I think you
can learn from each and every client that you
have, even if they're doing it technically wrong
to whatever your end state is. people are doing
the best they can. And so sometimes you can always
glean something from those situations. So I,
I, I love that how much I get to learn with that.
Um, what, uh, you, do you have anything else
that you want to talk about? You want to add
in? No, I mean, yeah, just honest. I do love
what I do. So, um, I am blessed to have my own
business, make my own hours and, I just want
to help many people out there with their dogs
because I enjoy it, and I get such a satisfaction
watching people pretty much have their lives
changed, their dogs changed, and that's what
makes me so happy with what I do. Awesome. Awesome.
Well, I am super thankful for you joining us
today. Thank you for your service to the country.
Super appreciative to all of our active duty
service members and things that are out there
fighting the fight. Talking with you today. I
mean, it's been an honor. I'm super glad that
you were able to come out. I'm glad that we got
the scheduling kind of nailed down. And I know
that our audience can kind of gain some real
value from both your experience and your leadership.
With Summit Kennels, it's kind of a standout
organization in the local community. And I'm
super grateful that we could highlight the work
that you're doing here. I think that it's important
to kind of figure out how we can raise the standard
of dog training in the community. I think it's
pretty evident that you're kind of committed
to that. I'm just excited that we could kind
of sit down and partner in a way that we can
raise that standard for the community. Yeah,
absolutely. Thanks again for being here. Thanks
for having me. All right. Thanks, Sierra.