WEBVTT 00:00:33.060 --> 00:00:35.820 Welcome to Pawprint Academy, your blueprint to 00:00:35.820 --> 00:00:38.719 raising better dogs. My name is Ryan, and I'll 00:00:38.719 --> 00:00:41.600 be your host for this journey. I've got my trusty 00:00:41.600 --> 00:00:44.240 co -host here, Brianna. Hello. And together, 00:00:44.259 --> 00:00:46.100 we're bringing you real -world training insights 00:00:46.100 --> 00:00:48.859 built on leadership, structure, and proven methods. 00:00:49.539 --> 00:00:52.119 We record this podcast with live clients on the 00:00:52.119 --> 00:00:55.380 line in one take with live, unscripted questions 00:00:55.380 --> 00:00:58.140 and answers. At the end of the day, this podcast 00:00:58.140 --> 00:01:00.179 is a lot more than just teaching your dog to 00:01:00.179 --> 00:01:04.540 sit or stay. creating calmness, and becoming 00:01:04.540 --> 00:01:07.500 the kind of leader your dog truly needs. We do 00:01:07.500 --> 00:01:09.939 that with our three pillar method of trust, obey, 00:01:10.159 --> 00:01:13.400 and perform. Together, we'll show you how these 00:01:13.400 --> 00:01:16.920 three pillars shape every step of training. Thanks 00:01:16.920 --> 00:01:37.290 for being here. Let's get started. Alright, welcome 00:01:37.290 --> 00:01:41.609 back to Pawprint Academy. So today, this is a 00:01:41.609 --> 00:01:45.569 bonus episode. And today, we've got a special 00:01:45.569 --> 00:01:48.569 guest joining us. Her name is Sierra, and she 00:01:48.569 --> 00:01:52.670 is the owner of Summit Kennels. So she's a military 00:01:52.670 --> 00:01:55.189 veteran and a leader in the local dog training 00:01:55.189 --> 00:01:58.540 community. She's someone whose experience spans 00:01:58.540 --> 00:02:01.560 from tactical canine work to helping everyday 00:02:01.560 --> 00:02:04.819 families build better dogs. And I've admired 00:02:04.819 --> 00:02:07.079 her professionalism, her dedication to the craft, 00:02:07.239 --> 00:02:10.219 and the impact that she continues to make in 00:02:10.219 --> 00:02:13.740 our region. And because of all that, I wanted 00:02:13.740 --> 00:02:16.439 to invite her onto our podcast. So this interview 00:02:16.439 --> 00:02:19.340 is going to be about... learning from her journey 00:02:19.340 --> 00:02:22.500 and celebrating her success with her business 00:02:22.500 --> 00:02:25.979 specifically. It's kind of a spotlight on local 00:02:25.979 --> 00:02:29.800 dog training companies and owners and really 00:02:29.800 --> 00:02:33.219 showing listeners what true collaboration in 00:02:33.219 --> 00:02:35.439 the dog training industry looks like. And so 00:02:35.439 --> 00:02:39.280 with that, Sierra, welcome. Yeah, thanks for 00:02:39.280 --> 00:02:44.759 having me. So today, the goal of today really 00:02:44.759 --> 00:02:47.849 is just to kind of... interview you a little 00:02:47.849 --> 00:02:51.150 bit and give you kind of a platform not that 00:02:51.150 --> 00:02:53.509 we have uh you know all seven of our listeners 00:02:53.509 --> 00:02:57.030 um but to give you a platform to talk a little 00:02:57.030 --> 00:02:59.710 bit about your business and and the things that 00:02:59.710 --> 00:03:04.830 um you know your experience in not just the dog 00:03:04.830 --> 00:03:08.469 training community but also like your journey 00:03:08.469 --> 00:03:12.090 through you know growing into this community 00:03:12.090 --> 00:03:16.789 and like where you came from sounds good Um, 00:03:16.930 --> 00:03:21.110 so with that, right. Um, the first kind of question 00:03:21.110 --> 00:03:23.969 that I, uh, had written down to kind of guide 00:03:23.969 --> 00:03:25.930 our discussion is, is really about your career 00:03:25.930 --> 00:03:29.729 journey. And so that's what originally sparked 00:03:29.729 --> 00:03:32.569 your interest in working with dogs. And like, 00:03:32.569 --> 00:03:36.449 how did that evolve into building Summit Kennels? 00:03:37.629 --> 00:03:41.789 Um, so I think starting out, um, what really 00:03:41.789 --> 00:03:44.319 got me into like the dog training was my first 00:03:44.319 --> 00:03:47.560 dog ever, started doing agility. At the time, 00:03:47.560 --> 00:03:49.919 though, I didn't really think of it as a future 00:03:49.919 --> 00:03:53.000 career. It was more of just like a really fun 00:03:53.000 --> 00:03:57.120 hobby that I was super into. But then ended up 00:03:57.120 --> 00:03:58.759 joining the military, was lucky enough to get 00:03:58.759 --> 00:04:01.960 into the canine field, and that's when I really 00:04:01.960 --> 00:04:04.860 just kind of thought of it more as a career, 00:04:04.979 --> 00:04:07.080 what I wanted to do even when I got out, and 00:04:07.080 --> 00:04:11.000 then getting into Summit Kennels. I didn't actually 00:04:11.000 --> 00:04:13.099 found Summit Kennels, the founder I started working 00:04:13.099 --> 00:04:19.199 for. And yeah, that's where I'm at now. So when 00:04:19.199 --> 00:04:23.139 did you when did you take over? I took over the 00:04:23.139 --> 00:04:27.540 beginning of this year. Oh, wow. Nice. So how 00:04:27.540 --> 00:04:30.620 really has your experience in the military shaped 00:04:30.620 --> 00:04:33.660 the way that you train dogs or kind of the way 00:04:33.660 --> 00:04:36.339 that you lead your business? So I think just 00:04:36.339 --> 00:04:39.689 being able to watch all of the different. training 00:04:39.689 --> 00:04:42.310 styles out there from different people like all 00:04:42.310 --> 00:04:45.750 of the courses i've been able to go to um team 00:04:45.750 --> 00:04:48.290 my trainers everything like that's really just 00:04:48.290 --> 00:04:49.790 kind of helped because before that i was just 00:04:49.790 --> 00:04:52.550 kind of like oh this is how i've trained my one 00:04:52.550 --> 00:04:55.129 dog and agility specifically i had my kind of 00:04:55.129 --> 00:04:56.930 like my own style so it really just broadened 00:04:56.930 --> 00:05:00.009 um so many different ways for me did you get 00:05:00.009 --> 00:05:03.410 into the agility thing with just your dog like 00:05:03.410 --> 00:05:05.730 before um you started doing this professionally 00:05:06.279 --> 00:05:08.319 Yep. Just my dog. I had worked with a lot of 00:05:08.319 --> 00:05:11.439 other teams cause we were in our own like little 00:05:11.439 --> 00:05:14.160 community. So I worked and helped a lot of other 00:05:14.160 --> 00:05:16.500 like trainers and teams, but yeah, it was just, 00:05:16.519 --> 00:05:20.060 just the agility field. I gotcha. Right. I, I, 00:05:20.120 --> 00:05:22.800 I don't really know anything about that. Like 00:05:22.800 --> 00:05:24.959 I've never gotten into that field before. They 00:05:24.959 --> 00:05:28.939 run real fast. They do zigzags. Right. Where 00:05:28.939 --> 00:05:33.759 did you, um, do you do that? Did you learn that 00:05:33.759 --> 00:05:36.449 locally or is that before you moved? Um, before 00:05:36.449 --> 00:05:39.050 I moved, so I actually grew up in Colorado. Okay. 00:05:39.129 --> 00:05:41.509 Um, and yeah, it competed all over the state 00:05:41.509 --> 00:05:46.949 of Colorado, AKC, USDA. Um, but yeah, I did that 00:05:46.949 --> 00:05:49.250 for quite a few years. Is that a dog that you 00:05:49.250 --> 00:05:52.670 still have? No. Okay. Fortunately not. I gotcha. 00:05:52.910 --> 00:05:56.629 Um, what about on the tactical canine experience? 00:05:56.910 --> 00:05:59.990 Um, so you've worked in tactical and military, 00:05:59.990 --> 00:06:03.269 like working dog environments. What lessons? 00:06:04.079 --> 00:06:08.199 uh from that world still influence you know your 00:06:08.199 --> 00:06:10.399 training philosophies today obviously like the 00:06:10.399 --> 00:06:13.500 the agility work i'm sure you you've learned 00:06:13.500 --> 00:06:16.339 different lessons and things on like how to to 00:06:16.339 --> 00:06:19.319 pattern certain skill sets um what about on the 00:06:19.319 --> 00:06:22.759 the tactical canine side i think what i learned 00:06:22.759 --> 00:06:24.839 a lot from the military and just like that the 00:06:24.839 --> 00:06:27.480 training and everything is just honestly like 00:06:27.480 --> 00:06:30.040 structure like beforehand like growing up dogs 00:06:30.040 --> 00:06:32.360 and everything like Our household didn't have 00:06:32.360 --> 00:06:34.259 that. Like our dog just kind of did. Obviously, 00:06:34.259 --> 00:06:36.060 I had a really strong bond with my dog. She's 00:06:36.060 --> 00:06:37.680 very well, like very obedient and everything. 00:06:37.740 --> 00:06:42.060 But just realizing and just the safety that comes 00:06:42.060 --> 00:06:44.660 with structure, like that was new to me. And 00:06:44.660 --> 00:06:47.319 that's definitely helped. It helps most dogs 00:06:47.319 --> 00:06:49.399 that I worked with now is just the structure. 00:06:49.620 --> 00:06:52.920 Yeah. Right. I think that's a big missing piece. 00:06:53.139 --> 00:06:55.740 But I bet the structure is like on another level. 00:06:56.060 --> 00:07:00.259 Right. Yes. Because you're dealing with dogs 00:07:00.259 --> 00:07:01.699 that are going to like eat your face off. And 00:07:01.699 --> 00:07:04.779 it's not even just like here with just pet dogs, 00:07:04.879 --> 00:07:06.519 like structure is a big thing. But in the military, 00:07:06.620 --> 00:07:08.839 like there's so many, like we use these dogs 00:07:08.839 --> 00:07:12.660 as weapons. So there's a lot of things that go 00:07:12.660 --> 00:07:16.079 into play for that. So how many years did you 00:07:16.079 --> 00:07:19.259 do that? Four. Four. So yeah, you're just like 00:07:19.259 --> 00:07:21.500 living and breathing that like every day. Yes. 00:07:21.620 --> 00:07:27.310 It was fun. Yeah. Miss it. I bet. Um, we had, 00:07:27.329 --> 00:07:31.850 um, we had an NPC handler come on the show a 00:07:31.850 --> 00:07:34.470 while back and there were things he was talking 00:07:34.470 --> 00:07:36.730 about. It's like, well, when you're like standing 00:07:36.730 --> 00:07:40.329 outside of, uh, you know, like a target building 00:07:40.329 --> 00:07:43.470 and you're, and then you have like a Kong in 00:07:43.470 --> 00:07:45.370 your hand, you're like, where, what am I doing 00:07:45.370 --> 00:07:50.610 here? What am I doing with this? And, uh, he's 00:07:50.610 --> 00:07:52.709 going crazy and you're like, yeah, yeah. Good 00:07:52.709 --> 00:07:55.980 job. Good job. So. Yeah, totally different experience 00:07:55.980 --> 00:07:58.720 because obviously our entire brand is geared 00:07:58.720 --> 00:08:03.500 towards pet dogs, home dogs. And so you're right. 00:08:03.540 --> 00:08:05.920 People have a very different view of it. It's 00:08:05.920 --> 00:08:12.379 like my dog won't sit. Yeah, it took a minute 00:08:12.379 --> 00:08:14.899 to get used to, but it's all in all the same. 00:08:14.959 --> 00:08:19.389 I love that. What has been the most rewarding 00:08:19.389 --> 00:08:23.009 part of being both a woman owned business and 00:08:23.009 --> 00:08:26.370 a veteran owned business? Uh, have you met any 00:08:26.370 --> 00:08:30.009 or met and overcome any specific struggles through 00:08:30.009 --> 00:08:33.169 your growth as a dog trainer or, um, has that 00:08:33.169 --> 00:08:36.649 really not been a factor? Um, not really. As 00:08:36.649 --> 00:08:38.889 far as like the dog trainer factor, I think honestly 00:08:38.889 --> 00:08:43.360 the biggest thing with, um, And not even being 00:08:43.360 --> 00:08:46.039 with a woman factor, I think a lot of people, 00:08:46.120 --> 00:08:48.879 I've gotten just the vibe. People are like, oh, 00:08:48.899 --> 00:08:51.039 it's a female dog trainer. She's just like, oh, 00:08:51.059 --> 00:08:53.860 loves dogs, things like that. So just proving 00:08:53.860 --> 00:08:57.100 kind of like, hey, I have this background with 00:08:57.100 --> 00:08:59.580 all of this. So you do get that a little bit, 00:08:59.580 --> 00:09:04.559 I've come to realize. And then just, I'm a mom, 00:09:04.600 --> 00:09:08.220 so he's with me. So just kind of juggling all 00:09:08.220 --> 00:09:13.029 of that. business right super busy it's chaotic 00:09:13.029 --> 00:09:17.389 um so because you run you run the entire business 00:09:17.389 --> 00:09:20.909 right um or do you have like a business partner 00:09:20.909 --> 00:09:23.809 or do you you you just you run the operations 00:09:23.809 --> 00:09:28.029 you're the ceo the coo the yeah all of it branch 00:09:28.029 --> 00:09:31.029 out like my uh advertising like you guys take 00:09:31.029 --> 00:09:33.769 care of that so that takes a lot of stress off 00:09:33.769 --> 00:09:36.440 a little bit but still there's with that I gotcha. 00:09:36.539 --> 00:09:42.440 But yeah. What do you, um, with, with that, have 00:09:42.440 --> 00:09:44.659 you ever owned another business? Is this the 00:09:44.659 --> 00:09:47.039 first one that you took over? This is the first 00:09:47.039 --> 00:09:49.340 one that I've owned, like a legit, legitimate 00:09:49.340 --> 00:09:53.240 business. Um, I have my own, I've got another 00:09:53.240 --> 00:09:56.580 like side business going on. Um, it's a health 00:09:56.580 --> 00:10:00.480 and wellness. Awesome. Gig. But yeah. First. 00:10:00.960 --> 00:10:03.759 First business. Awesome. When, what would you 00:10:03.759 --> 00:10:07.139 say? So when we talk about like Summit Kennels 00:10:07.139 --> 00:10:10.820 mission, right? When people ask what makes Summit 00:10:10.820 --> 00:10:13.960 Kennels different, what would you share with 00:10:13.960 --> 00:10:18.720 them? So like, I guess the second question, what 00:10:18.720 --> 00:10:21.200 would you say is your key difference? What makes 00:10:21.200 --> 00:10:23.039 Summit Kennels different in the dog training 00:10:23.039 --> 00:10:26.779 market? I think just because the Summit Kennels 00:10:26.779 --> 00:10:29.360 as a whole, whether it be me, the founder. our 00:10:29.360 --> 00:10:32.159 trainers just in general, like we have such a 00:10:32.159 --> 00:10:38.019 serious and wide variety of training and that 00:10:38.019 --> 00:10:40.620 we've been through. So not even just the styles, 00:10:40.740 --> 00:10:43.759 but different backgrounds from agility work to 00:10:43.759 --> 00:10:47.799 like military work, canine work, bite work, detection, 00:10:47.879 --> 00:10:51.519 like it's someone knows it. So just having that 00:10:51.519 --> 00:10:54.700 wide variety, I think really sets us apart. gotcha 00:10:54.700 --> 00:10:58.080 is there any specific like is there any dogs 00:10:58.080 --> 00:11:01.360 that you don't do or you don't take or that like 00:11:01.360 --> 00:11:04.679 no no we don't touch that for instance right 00:11:04.679 --> 00:11:07.720 top dog training we only we only do pet dogs 00:11:07.720 --> 00:11:12.059 so yeah right now we're only really catered toward 00:11:12.059 --> 00:11:14.919 just the pet dog so we have people that we work 00:11:14.919 --> 00:11:16.480 with that do like the bite work and everything 00:11:16.480 --> 00:11:18.960 like that um and we'll go and treat that more 00:11:18.960 --> 00:11:21.179 of like a lesson work with them but we don't 00:11:21.179 --> 00:11:23.500 have the gear so as long as you guys you have 00:11:23.500 --> 00:11:26.299 the experience with that but we can like we can 00:11:26.299 --> 00:11:28.860 work with you we can train with you but we just 00:11:28.860 --> 00:11:31.960 don't have the facility one and then the equipment 00:11:31.960 --> 00:11:36.559 to do that i gotcha um how about on the training 00:11:36.559 --> 00:11:40.139 philosophy side like if you had to sum up your 00:11:40.139 --> 00:11:43.019 training philosophy in like one or two sentences, 00:11:43.220 --> 00:11:50.480 what would, what would it be? Probably working 00:11:50.480 --> 00:11:52.360 with your dogs. Like we want clear, confident, 00:11:52.500 --> 00:11:56.039 fulfilling training, like for every dog, no matter 00:11:56.039 --> 00:11:58.600 what kind of dog you have, what your training 00:11:58.600 --> 00:12:01.299 lifestyle is, what your plans, like that's what 00:12:01.299 --> 00:12:03.700 we want. Like we want to help you on that. A 00:12:03.700 --> 00:12:06.779 lot of dogs struggle with. confidence and but 00:12:06.779 --> 00:12:08.580 then the owners on their part just having that 00:12:08.580 --> 00:12:11.620 clear communication with their dogs is what kind 00:12:11.620 --> 00:12:14.480 of sets them up right that's what we we we say 00:12:14.480 --> 00:12:19.159 that like communication is huge right and if 00:12:19.159 --> 00:12:21.720 you can't communicate with your dog it's impossible 00:12:21.720 --> 00:12:24.159 for you to train your dog it literally a lot 00:12:24.159 --> 00:12:28.519 of people struggle with it right right so on 00:12:28.519 --> 00:12:32.220 the with all the canine experience is there a 00:12:32.220 --> 00:12:35.840 difference that you found in like this is a better 00:12:35.840 --> 00:12:38.379 way to like communicate with your dog or like 00:12:38.379 --> 00:12:42.799 how, how has that influenced that? That like 00:12:42.799 --> 00:12:46.759 baseline, right? It sounds like, I guess those 00:12:46.759 --> 00:12:49.799 foundational concepts are like super important 00:12:49.799 --> 00:12:53.559 to you. What is something that you've learned 00:12:53.559 --> 00:12:57.460 on the canine or the tactical canine side that 00:12:57.460 --> 00:13:03.379 you could bring into the pet training side? Just 00:13:03.379 --> 00:13:06.860 honestly, like, having you like well for one 00:13:06.860 --> 00:13:10.360 the dog wants to work for you like every working 00:13:10.360 --> 00:13:11.940 dog I've worked with like they're just obsessed 00:13:11.940 --> 00:13:14.820 with doing their job and it is a training mindset 00:13:14.820 --> 00:13:17.059 that these dogs have to have so like on the pet 00:13:17.059 --> 00:13:20.460 side a lot of dogs don't have that training mindset 00:13:20.460 --> 00:13:22.840 so that's what's kind of blocking like that is 00:13:22.840 --> 00:13:24.980 something you have to teach a dog that's something 00:13:24.980 --> 00:13:27.759 you have to train and a lot of clients don't 00:13:27.759 --> 00:13:29.779 have that structure they don't have that atmosphere 00:13:29.779 --> 00:13:32.700 going on so that's right there it's already kind 00:13:32.700 --> 00:13:39.399 of blocking gotcha um what if you had to give 00:13:39.399 --> 00:13:44.519 top three advice for first dog owner from your 00:13:44.519 --> 00:13:48.620 perspective what would it be like if they don't 00:13:48.620 --> 00:13:50.799 have a dog yet they just well i guess like first 00:13:50.799 --> 00:13:55.440 dog owner um they're you get that that random 00:13:55.440 --> 00:13:59.460 call that's uh every dog training company gets 00:13:59.460 --> 00:14:03.809 it they're like i've had my dog First six days. 00:14:04.370 --> 00:14:09.509 Yeah. I just got my dog. I know it needs training. 00:14:10.690 --> 00:14:15.250 I want you to train my dog. Typically on our 00:14:15.250 --> 00:14:18.549 side, we we recommend that they spend about 90 00:14:18.549 --> 00:14:21.090 days. Yeah. Right. Like getting to know their 00:14:21.090 --> 00:14:24.129 dog, like building a relationship with their 00:14:24.129 --> 00:14:28.600 dog and like creating. some of these like foundational 00:14:28.600 --> 00:14:31.340 concepts in our like communication and our relationship 00:14:31.340 --> 00:14:37.860 um so that in mind what would your top three 00:14:37.860 --> 00:14:41.460 things that an own a first dog owner could work 00:14:41.460 --> 00:14:46.480 on with their dog what would that be first starting 00:14:46.480 --> 00:14:50.639 out bonding time like gain that trust with your 00:14:50.639 --> 00:14:54.659 dog gain that um one -on -one with them you want 00:14:54.659 --> 00:14:56.940 a lot of reps like for me like say you just got 00:14:56.940 --> 00:14:58.980 a puppy I'm not even huge into the obedience 00:14:58.980 --> 00:15:01.179 right away a lot of people are like I want to 00:15:01.179 --> 00:15:03.100 hop on obedience like right away I want my puppy 00:15:03.100 --> 00:15:05.120 really well trained and it's like there's so 00:15:05.120 --> 00:15:10.340 much you can do beforehand just exposure um socialization 00:15:10.340 --> 00:15:13.940 bonding time working on just long line drills 00:15:13.940 --> 00:15:17.600 I'm huge into long line drills so um really just 00:15:17.600 --> 00:15:20.860 doing that and but making like You have to make 00:15:20.860 --> 00:15:22.440 time throughout the day to work with a lot of 00:15:22.440 --> 00:15:24.659 dogs. Some people are just really bad with it. 00:15:24.740 --> 00:15:25.899 They're like, oh, I just don't have time. They 00:15:25.899 --> 00:15:29.019 work all day. I get it. Everyone works, but you 00:15:29.019 --> 00:15:30.919 can still have those little times where you really 00:15:30.919 --> 00:15:33.360 take time out of your day and just work with 00:15:33.360 --> 00:15:35.980 that dog. Right. We inevitably get the nine -to 00:15:35.980 --> 00:15:37.740 -fivers, and they're like, well, I just get home, 00:15:37.779 --> 00:15:39.820 and then I've got to feed them dinner. It's like 00:15:39.820 --> 00:15:41.799 having kids, right? When you get home, it's like, 00:15:41.820 --> 00:15:44.700 I don't have time to play with them. It's like, 00:15:44.759 --> 00:15:47.049 cool, but you've got to take five minutes. you 00:15:47.049 --> 00:15:49.529 gotta take five five ten minutes like that's 00:15:49.529 --> 00:15:51.970 it and the one thing we notice i think in most 00:15:51.970 --> 00:15:54.769 dog owners or pet dog owners is like they don't 00:15:54.769 --> 00:15:58.409 know how to play with their dog no that and that's 00:15:58.409 --> 00:16:00.549 something i honestly struggle with sometimes 00:16:00.549 --> 00:16:03.809 i've gotten better with it but um teaching people 00:16:03.809 --> 00:16:06.470 how to play with their dog and yeah engaging 00:16:06.470 --> 00:16:09.769 like a lot of people the dog the dog loves working 00:16:09.769 --> 00:16:13.230 with me like completely different dog yeah they 00:16:13.230 --> 00:16:14.389 go over the ends because they don't know how 00:16:14.389 --> 00:16:16.570 to engage with their dog Sometimes we tell people, 00:16:16.649 --> 00:16:18.470 we're like, you're boring. What are you doing? 00:16:18.870 --> 00:16:23.210 You're boring as hell. They hate that. I wouldn't 00:16:23.210 --> 00:16:26.230 want to play with you. You don't seem fun. If 00:16:26.230 --> 00:16:31.990 you're not fun, your dog is like, be fun. I want 00:16:31.990 --> 00:16:36.129 fun. I want fun. So show me fun. And you'll be 00:16:36.129 --> 00:16:38.830 surprised how much your dog actually does engage 00:16:38.830 --> 00:16:41.909 with you as soon as you're fun, as soon as you're 00:16:41.909 --> 00:16:48.750 exciting. Super underrated concept. What's like 00:16:48.750 --> 00:16:53.590 a skill or memory from the previous like high 00:16:53.590 --> 00:16:57.830 stress environment world that you used to work 00:16:57.830 --> 00:17:01.649 in? Not that dog training is really low stress, 00:17:01.789 --> 00:17:05.250 but because they're always doing something wazoo. 00:17:05.390 --> 00:17:09.349 But what's like working in that high stress environment 00:17:09.349 --> 00:17:13.460 of the tactical side? teaches you a lot about 00:17:13.460 --> 00:17:17.720 reading your dogs like quickly right and what 00:17:17.720 --> 00:17:20.539 would you say is like a skill or a memory from 00:17:20.539 --> 00:17:23.319 that previous world that you think that like 00:17:23.319 --> 00:17:27.059 a pet owner or a home dog owner could benefit 00:17:27.059 --> 00:17:32.299 from timing okay timing is a big big thing especially 00:17:32.299 --> 00:17:37.160 um for for me we would do like these scenarios 00:17:37.160 --> 00:17:41.230 or just the military does training. And, um, 00:17:41.369 --> 00:17:43.910 I would use to go into the black lot where something 00:17:43.910 --> 00:17:45.390 stressful would start happening and I don't know 00:17:45.390 --> 00:17:47.890 what to do. And I just would almost freeze and 00:17:47.890 --> 00:17:50.549 you just, you gotta go, you gotta make those 00:17:50.549 --> 00:17:53.269 decisions. Um, but then even for your dog, like 00:17:53.269 --> 00:17:55.730 you gotta tell your dog what to do. Like timing, 00:17:55.829 --> 00:17:58.029 timing is everything. You a couple seconds off, 00:17:58.150 --> 00:18:00.769 make the wrong move and you're just, you're done 00:18:00.769 --> 00:18:04.869 for. So, um, but even like in the pet, pet side, 00:18:04.970 --> 00:18:06.769 like training, there's so much timing involved 00:18:06.769 --> 00:18:10.160 with training. Yeah. I think people find it like 00:18:10.160 --> 00:18:12.920 harder to own a dog than what it used to be. 00:18:12.940 --> 00:18:15.440 Right. We always have clients that are like, 00:18:15.480 --> 00:18:18.440 well, my dog back in the day, like they just 00:18:18.440 --> 00:18:20.299 used to stay in the yard and they didn't run 00:18:20.299 --> 00:18:21.779 off and I didn't have to put them on a leash 00:18:21.779 --> 00:18:24.359 and they never barked at other dogs. And it's 00:18:24.359 --> 00:18:29.140 like, right. How's this dog doing? Yeah. They're 00:18:29.140 --> 00:18:31.400 like, well, it's a lot crazier. Right. It's not 00:18:31.400 --> 00:18:34.039 1942 anymore. We have terrible genetics in the 00:18:34.039 --> 00:18:39.390 dog pool. It's bad. People are just like, well, 00:18:39.470 --> 00:18:40.730 I just don't know how to work with this dog. 00:18:40.890 --> 00:18:43.150 And it's like, yeah, there's it's just it's so 00:18:43.150 --> 00:18:44.990 different than what it used to be. But inevitably, 00:18:45.130 --> 00:18:46.930 we always get an owner that got a dog and they're 00:18:46.930 --> 00:18:49.329 like, well, it's not like my last dog. My last 00:18:49.329 --> 00:18:51.509 dog wanted to be with me. My last dog wouldn't 00:18:51.509 --> 00:18:53.349 go anywhere. My last dog wouldn't bark at another 00:18:53.349 --> 00:18:56.670 dog. It's like, right. But this dog is not that 00:18:56.670 --> 00:18:59.170 dog. You always have that one golden dog. And 00:18:59.170 --> 00:19:02.509 then, yeah, second couple dogs down. Right. I'm 00:19:02.509 --> 00:19:04.809 in the same boat. I had a great dog. And now 00:19:04.809 --> 00:19:07.390 and then I was like, oh, this dog looks like 00:19:07.390 --> 00:19:12.450 that dog. Right. Not the same dog at all. What. 00:19:13.190 --> 00:19:16.890 So what's a what's like a memorable dog story? 00:19:17.089 --> 00:19:19.849 So every trainer's got that one dog that they'll 00:19:19.849 --> 00:19:23.130 like never forget. What what's yours and what 00:19:23.130 --> 00:19:27.950 did that dog teach you? I mean, I have quite 00:19:27.950 --> 00:19:31.009 a few different. I probably have more just crazy 00:19:31.009 --> 00:19:33.450 dogs where I'm like, damn, that's a way to do 00:19:33.450 --> 00:19:36.849 it with pet training. But my first dog probably 00:19:36.849 --> 00:19:38.730 taught me the most, just honestly my agility 00:19:38.730 --> 00:19:40.789 dog, Molly, because I just didn't know anything 00:19:40.789 --> 00:19:44.009 about training at all. So everything we were 00:19:44.009 --> 00:19:47.549 doing, we were just learning as we went and a 00:19:47.549 --> 00:19:52.059 lot of losses. But, yeah. I feel like I would 00:19:52.059 --> 00:19:54.480 have zero idea what to do in agility, like scent 00:19:54.480 --> 00:19:56.119 work. I feel like I'm a dog trainer. And if I 00:19:56.119 --> 00:19:57.859 went into any of those situations, I'd be like, 00:19:57.900 --> 00:19:58.960 what do I do with my hands? They're like whole 00:19:58.960 --> 00:20:00.779 different worlds. I don't even know. What do 00:20:00.779 --> 00:20:03.480 I do with this dog? Yeah. But once you start 00:20:03.480 --> 00:20:06.980 getting it, like, and I think before that dog, 00:20:06.980 --> 00:20:09.000 and she was a whole struggle case. Like she had 00:20:09.000 --> 00:20:11.599 a lot of behavioral problems going on. So just, 00:20:11.680 --> 00:20:13.279 I got a little bit of everything with that. She 00:20:13.279 --> 00:20:15.940 was a border collie. Yeah. Rescued her. So she 00:20:15.940 --> 00:20:19.349 was. She was a little cray -cray, but best dog. 00:20:19.589 --> 00:20:23.309 But I learned a lot from her, honestly. What's 00:20:23.309 --> 00:20:28.490 the funniest moment with a dog that you can recall? 00:20:28.710 --> 00:20:30.390 Okay, I was going to say, Molly was pretty serious. 00:20:31.390 --> 00:20:36.009 Let's see. My working dog, we would go on runs 00:20:36.009 --> 00:20:39.690 on the sea while we had out in Japan. And one 00:20:39.690 --> 00:20:42.349 time we got back, and we were just sitting. I 00:20:42.349 --> 00:20:45.970 was just people watching, and this dog just starts 00:20:45.970 --> 00:20:48.869 rolling down a hill. and just keeps going back 00:20:48.869 --> 00:20:51.609 up, rolling down the hill, and just keeps doing 00:20:51.609 --> 00:20:53.829 it. Oh, my gosh. Just dying laughing. 40 minutes. 00:20:54.029 --> 00:20:56.950 Just rolled. He just would go up and just slide 00:20:56.950 --> 00:20:58.970 down. Oh, just figured out that it's like, oh, 00:20:58.970 --> 00:21:00.569 this is fun. I've seen videos of dogs doing that. 00:21:00.670 --> 00:21:03.190 That's funny. Right. Talk about self -gratifying 00:21:03.190 --> 00:21:05.930 behavior. So, like, actually, this is fun. I'm 00:21:05.930 --> 00:21:07.789 going to do it again. Right. Self -gratifying 00:21:07.789 --> 00:21:10.549 behavior. You don't need nobody. Yeah, you don't 00:21:10.549 --> 00:21:12.769 need anybody. I can slide down this hill by myself. 00:21:12.829 --> 00:21:14.589 Just having a great time. Love this. All right. 00:21:15.759 --> 00:21:19.519 Love that. How about a challenge that you faced 00:21:19.519 --> 00:21:22.700 when building Summit Kennels that kind of shaped 00:21:22.700 --> 00:21:24.900 you into the trainer and the leader that you 00:21:24.900 --> 00:21:29.259 are today? Probably, honestly, just the business 00:21:29.259 --> 00:21:32.880 side of it. Because training, you're always learning. 00:21:32.980 --> 00:21:34.839 There's always challenges. Every dog's different. 00:21:36.319 --> 00:21:38.740 But the business side of it is really, honestly, 00:21:38.779 --> 00:21:42.630 what got me. Wanted to work under someone initially. 00:21:42.789 --> 00:21:44.430 That's why I was glad I was able to go under 00:21:44.430 --> 00:21:46.029 Garrett for a little bit before because I've 00:21:46.029 --> 00:21:49.730 always wanted to start my own. But just able 00:21:49.730 --> 00:21:52.470 to work with him, kind of gauge it a little bit. 00:21:52.630 --> 00:21:57.829 But yeah, that's a whole other thing. So you 00:21:57.829 --> 00:22:02.130 have kind of shaped all of that and built a pretty 00:22:02.130 --> 00:22:05.910 strong presence here locally. What impact do 00:22:05.910 --> 00:22:08.349 you hope that Summit Kennels continues to have 00:22:08.349 --> 00:22:12.750 on the community over the next few years? Honestly, 00:22:12.809 --> 00:22:15.849 just a good, strong place that people can go 00:22:15.849 --> 00:22:19.089 to. I love seeing even on the Facebook pages 00:22:19.089 --> 00:22:21.029 and things like that where people drop Summit 00:22:21.029 --> 00:22:25.269 Kennels. That's what I love. I want to just further 00:22:25.269 --> 00:22:29.910 that. I obviously want to grow as a business, 00:22:30.029 --> 00:22:33.869 but I never want to get super big. I never like 00:22:33.869 --> 00:22:38.250 chain or anything like that. Just working with 00:22:38.250 --> 00:22:42.009 more people in the community. We definitely want 00:22:42.009 --> 00:22:45.230 to do some other training opportunities eventually 00:22:45.230 --> 00:22:48.410 with like detection. I really want to get into 00:22:48.410 --> 00:22:51.890 that and even like tracking. That's cool. As 00:22:51.890 --> 00:22:54.109 far as that, I don't have any, like I'm not trying 00:22:54.109 --> 00:22:57.549 to get crazy out of control. I was going to say, 00:22:57.549 --> 00:22:59.809 you got any big plans you want to talk about? 00:23:00.130 --> 00:23:03.789 Not anything crazy. All seven of our listeners. 00:23:05.069 --> 00:23:11.460 I'll definitely be. In the UK. um definitely 00:23:11.460 --> 00:23:14.039 be putting up like a bigger facility just on 00:23:14.039 --> 00:23:17.619 our property nice and then um just to have more 00:23:17.619 --> 00:23:19.700 of like an indoor training center and everything 00:23:19.700 --> 00:23:25.180 um have like the detection side and just honestly 00:23:25.180 --> 00:23:27.819 something that my clients who do want to continue 00:23:27.819 --> 00:23:29.480 training and just kind of get into the routine 00:23:29.480 --> 00:23:32.059 of things and they do want that and i want to 00:23:32.059 --> 00:23:35.480 give that to them like hey do this um without 00:23:35.480 --> 00:23:38.660 sending them to other people like i want to provide 00:23:38.660 --> 00:23:43.720 that i gotcha um what so in your on the on the 00:23:43.720 --> 00:23:46.400 subject of like collaboration and networking 00:23:46.400 --> 00:23:51.819 what in your experience makes collaboration between 00:23:51.819 --> 00:23:54.259 trainers powerful instead of competitive when 00:23:54.259 --> 00:23:57.359 we first to kind of like lay the groundwork for 00:23:57.359 --> 00:24:01.500 this question um when we first talked about socializing 00:24:01.500 --> 00:24:04.599 the idea in the local community of like dog trainers 00:24:04.599 --> 00:24:08.930 working together there's like immediately there's 00:24:08.930 --> 00:24:12.250 always this apprehension of competition right 00:24:12.250 --> 00:24:15.890 where it's like oh well these are my clients 00:24:15.890 --> 00:24:19.150 or those clients or all of these things and and 00:24:19.150 --> 00:24:22.750 uh the thing is that there's like a million dogs 00:24:22.750 --> 00:24:27.630 around here there's so many dogs uh and and you 00:24:27.630 --> 00:24:29.849 can't go anywhere without seeing a dog where 00:24:29.849 --> 00:24:34.329 you're like i can help you i can help you and 00:24:34.329 --> 00:24:37.990 and i don't say that like as an elitist i say 00:24:37.990 --> 00:24:41.289 that as like uh like look just just a little 00:24:41.289 --> 00:24:43.789 bit of communication could go so far because 00:24:43.789 --> 00:24:48.710 your dog's looking to you for guidance your dog's 00:24:48.710 --> 00:24:50.670 not even a bad dog it's just it's just looking 00:24:50.670 --> 00:24:52.569 to you for guidance but you're but you don't 00:24:52.569 --> 00:24:54.809 know how to communicate with them because no 00:24:54.809 --> 00:24:56.849 one taught you to speak dog no one taught your 00:24:56.849 --> 00:24:59.549 dog to speak english yeah this is like a real 00:24:59.549 --> 00:25:04.650 easy thing we can work through um so um initially 00:25:05.529 --> 00:25:12.069 There's kind of an automatic side -eye sizing 00:25:12.069 --> 00:25:17.470 up of dog trainers when they get together. And 00:25:17.470 --> 00:25:20.950 you see this at the IACP conferences and all 00:25:20.950 --> 00:25:26.029 these other... I haven't been to some laundry 00:25:26.029 --> 00:25:29.769 list of acronym different seminars and things. 00:25:35.150 --> 00:25:42.230 it pains me to know that one of the running jokes 00:25:42.230 --> 00:25:45.750 is in the dog training community is that the 00:25:45.750 --> 00:25:48.109 only thing that five dog trainers will agree 00:25:48.109 --> 00:25:51.109 on is that the sixth dog trainer is wrong, right? 00:25:51.269 --> 00:25:54.009 Like when you, when you put a bunch of dog trainers 00:25:54.009 --> 00:25:57.369 together, they will always disagree about something. 00:25:57.789 --> 00:26:01.309 And I think that collaboration and networking 00:26:01.309 --> 00:26:05.799 is super important. And I think that With the 00:26:05.799 --> 00:26:10.119 really kind of tight knit military focus community 00:26:10.119 --> 00:26:15.660 in the general area, it was just in the Camp 00:26:15.660 --> 00:26:19.339 Lejeune, Hampstead, Sneeds Ferry like area. It's 00:26:19.339 --> 00:26:25.160 very military heavy. And there's not really there's 00:26:25.160 --> 00:26:27.799 not really a reason to be like that, I don't 00:26:27.799 --> 00:26:33.660 think. So back to the question, what? Do you 00:26:33.660 --> 00:26:40.279 see the like pros versus the cons? I think there's 00:26:40.279 --> 00:26:42.660 a lot of good to it because I completely understand 00:26:42.660 --> 00:26:45.299 there's a lot of people, just dog trainers who 00:26:45.299 --> 00:26:47.799 do, like they immediately kind of like size you 00:26:47.799 --> 00:26:51.819 up, which is natural, like we're human. But I 00:26:51.819 --> 00:26:54.779 think it's good. Not only do you have like clients 00:26:54.779 --> 00:26:57.400 that you can bring more into a community, like, 00:26:57.480 --> 00:27:00.180 hey, if I can't help you, like, look, I've got 00:27:00.180 --> 00:27:04.059 this huge team here. like with me um but then 00:27:04.059 --> 00:27:07.579 also just you as a trainer as well as like owner 00:27:07.579 --> 00:27:10.859 i can go and reach out to like hey like can we 00:27:10.859 --> 00:27:12.880 help you set up those events just kind of work 00:27:12.880 --> 00:27:15.519 together and it just brings a home of your vibe 00:27:15.519 --> 00:27:19.720 honestly right and i heard you say that uh initially 00:27:19.720 --> 00:27:21.599 that you didn't want to get too big and you wanted 00:27:21.599 --> 00:27:25.960 that kind of like that supportive feel yes yeah 00:27:25.960 --> 00:27:30.210 yeah we are super aligned on that same like concept, 00:27:30.289 --> 00:27:32.089 right? I see a lot of value in collaboration 00:27:32.089 --> 00:27:36.789 and I see a lot of value in how we can bring 00:27:36.789 --> 00:27:41.690 value to the home and pet dog owner that way. 00:27:42.569 --> 00:27:45.750 So super glad that you're kind of on the same 00:27:45.750 --> 00:27:50.630 page with that. With advice to new dog owners, 00:27:50.869 --> 00:27:54.650 what would you, we talked a little bit about 00:27:54.650 --> 00:27:57.230 like what what you would tell a new dog owner 00:27:57.230 --> 00:27:59.750 based on your like tactical canine experience. 00:27:59.970 --> 00:28:05.009 But let's say that, um, someone got a brand new 00:28:05.009 --> 00:28:09.170 dog and what's one piece of advice. If you just 00:28:09.170 --> 00:28:11.849 had one piece of advice for them, what would 00:28:11.849 --> 00:28:15.150 set them up for longterm success in your mind? 00:28:16.650 --> 00:28:20.430 It's not dog training. Isn't just train it and 00:28:20.430 --> 00:28:23.630 you're done. Um, it's continuous. Like it doesn't 00:28:23.630 --> 00:28:26.230 matter. what you taught them like there's always 00:28:26.230 --> 00:28:28.150 going to be different places new environments 00:28:28.150 --> 00:28:31.730 um it just doesn't stop it is continuous and 00:28:31.730 --> 00:28:33.589 a lot of people struggle with that they're like 00:28:33.589 --> 00:28:36.650 why like with a board and train they go through 00:28:36.650 --> 00:28:38.210 a board and train a lot of people get frustrated 00:28:38.210 --> 00:28:39.730 like they're oh they're not doing it anymore 00:28:39.730 --> 00:28:43.049 but since we had our turnover like you haven't 00:28:43.049 --> 00:28:46.150 trained at all so I think a lot of people struggle 00:28:46.150 --> 00:28:48.490 with like with that like training is continuous 00:28:48.490 --> 00:28:50.170 and that's something like if you do want that 00:28:50.170 --> 00:28:52.089 good and over time you probably will have to 00:28:52.089 --> 00:28:54.619 do it less and less because it's so ingrained 00:28:54.619 --> 00:28:58.099 in them on like what's expected um but just having 00:28:58.099 --> 00:29:01.099 that constant oh i'm gonna do it for really hard 00:29:01.099 --> 00:29:03.940 for a few days here and then not at all yeah 00:29:03.940 --> 00:29:08.460 yeah for sure right consistency is key yep yeah 00:29:08.460 --> 00:29:11.000 for sure uh what's your favorite skill to teach 00:29:11.000 --> 00:29:15.619 um favorite command or behavior or something 00:29:15.619 --> 00:29:19.720 recall or any weird trick honestly what is or 00:29:19.720 --> 00:29:23.079 any weird trick yeah i don't know I've been teaching 00:29:23.079 --> 00:29:25.700 a little mini Aussie to go around and then out 00:29:25.700 --> 00:29:28.259 of things, which is actually a first for me because 00:29:28.259 --> 00:29:30.420 I don't usually work with like the herding style 00:29:30.420 --> 00:29:32.700 dogs. Oh, really? Yeah. And she just needs an 00:29:32.700 --> 00:29:34.519 outlet. So I've been like doing those, which 00:29:34.519 --> 00:29:37.039 I feel like is really fun. It's a first. Like 00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:39.099 I said, it's a first for me. So little things 00:29:39.099 --> 00:29:41.400 like that that I don't normally like get to do 00:29:41.400 --> 00:29:44.569 with dogs because it's like I'm busy. teaching 00:29:44.569 --> 00:29:46.410 them all the important things where he's just 00:29:46.410 --> 00:29:48.930 like i just need something fun to do guys and 00:29:48.930 --> 00:29:50.809 i'm like oh okay let's do some fun things no 00:29:50.809 --> 00:29:54.150 because i i'm i'm bad i get bored so i'm like 00:29:54.150 --> 00:29:57.049 yeah i get this talk and i'm like i could teach 00:29:57.049 --> 00:30:00.549 you that real quick little weird things i like 00:30:00.549 --> 00:30:02.450 doing it's like you bring it back it's like hey 00:30:02.450 --> 00:30:04.130 they can turn off the light switch now they're 00:30:04.130 --> 00:30:07.170 like what right right you're like why would you 00:30:07.170 --> 00:30:13.240 want that no that they can turn it on too I taught 00:30:13.240 --> 00:30:15.420 them both. Right. But how cool. The dogs over 00:30:15.420 --> 00:30:19.380 there just. Yeah. Flipping it on. Electric super 00:30:19.380 --> 00:30:24.599 high. So what's a, what's like a, like a funny 00:30:24.599 --> 00:30:27.619 or unexpected or surprising thing that most people 00:30:27.619 --> 00:30:30.940 wouldn't really guess about working with dogs 00:30:30.940 --> 00:30:35.319 every day that comes up for you? I think most 00:30:35.319 --> 00:30:38.029 people, well, cause you're. tell like what do 00:30:38.029 --> 00:30:40.029 you do for a living oh i'm a dog trainer train 00:30:40.029 --> 00:30:42.890 dogs they're like oh you're so lucky and right 00:30:42.890 --> 00:30:47.609 yes i don't you get to work with dogs all day 00:30:47.609 --> 00:30:53.650 yes yes i do they don't realize honestly how 00:30:53.650 --> 00:30:56.390 much cleaning is involved and how much you work 00:30:56.390 --> 00:30:58.410 like it's not just like oh i get to go play with 00:30:58.410 --> 00:31:01.049 the dog for a little bit it's like it is all 00:31:01.049 --> 00:31:04.240 day long yeah Right. Ours went to the beach today 00:31:04.240 --> 00:31:06.440 and he smells like fish. Yeah. So we're like, 00:31:06.460 --> 00:31:11.039 oh, now you. I've got a straight. Just made more 00:31:11.039 --> 00:31:15.160 work for us. So glad you had that adventure. 00:31:15.339 --> 00:31:18.380 People just think we pet dogs all day. They're 00:31:18.380 --> 00:31:22.380 like, oh. Right. Yeah. We're not. Dogs not sitting 00:31:22.380 --> 00:31:25.819 on the couch and I'm petting him. Yeah. I'm not. 00:31:25.900 --> 00:31:28.829 I'm not. No. This is not Paulville. Totally different. 00:31:29.009 --> 00:31:30.829 But I couldn't imagine working there either. 00:31:30.970 --> 00:31:33.750 Because imagine the amount of noise coming out 00:31:33.750 --> 00:31:36.589 of that place. I could hear them like a half 00:31:36.589 --> 00:31:39.230 mile away. I believe it. And I'm like, oh, I 00:31:39.230 --> 00:31:53.130 could not. Right. I think that the funniest byproduct 00:31:53.130 --> 00:31:56.369 is communication, I think, for a dog trainer. 00:31:57.069 --> 00:32:02.650 The way that people write those Facebook reels 00:32:02.650 --> 00:32:05.430 of like what people think I do versus like what 00:32:05.430 --> 00:32:08.450 I really do. And just the concept of communication. 00:32:08.670 --> 00:32:10.410 Oh, you get to talk to dogs all day. And you're 00:32:10.410 --> 00:32:13.250 like, no, don't do that. That builds anxiety. 00:32:13.690 --> 00:32:19.230 I talk to no one all day. Right. Yeah. Because 00:32:19.230 --> 00:32:23.289 you really. This is totally a sidetrack, but 00:32:23.289 --> 00:32:26.369 we shouldn't be talking to the dogs because the 00:32:26.369 --> 00:32:29.589 dogs don't understand you. So the concept that, 00:32:29.630 --> 00:32:32.809 oh, it must be so nice to have this like, you 00:32:32.809 --> 00:32:34.490 know, dog following you around. You have somebody 00:32:34.490 --> 00:32:36.609 to talk to all day and you're like, no, don't 00:32:36.609 --> 00:32:39.369 do that. That probably is why you need dog training 00:32:39.369 --> 00:32:42.569 in the first place. Stop that. Yeah, that that 00:32:42.569 --> 00:32:45.329 always cracks me up because I that's what I hear 00:32:45.329 --> 00:32:47.250 a lot. Oh, you get to you get to work with dogs. 00:32:47.349 --> 00:32:49.829 It's probably so nice to like just talk to dogs 00:32:49.829 --> 00:32:53.339 all day. And you're like, no, no, totally different. 00:32:53.680 --> 00:32:59.819 Don't do that. All right. How about really the 00:32:59.819 --> 00:33:01.859 last thing I had written down and, and this could, 00:33:01.900 --> 00:33:05.119 could branch off into whatever, but is your, 00:33:05.119 --> 00:33:08.119 your future vision. So where do you see summit 00:33:08.119 --> 00:33:12.480 kennels going next? And like what kind of partnerships 00:33:12.480 --> 00:33:15.019 or projects like excite you about the future? 00:33:16.380 --> 00:33:18.920 And, and this can go in, in whatever direction 00:33:18.920 --> 00:33:22.779 you want. But, What do you got on the docket 00:33:22.779 --> 00:33:26.779 coming up for you? Definitely putting up a bigger 00:33:26.779 --> 00:33:31.079 facility for us just for the dogs, kind of separating 00:33:31.079 --> 00:33:35.079 the business from home life a little bit because 00:33:35.079 --> 00:33:37.579 right now it's kind of all integrated and lose 00:33:37.579 --> 00:33:39.420 my cool sometimes a little bit at the end of 00:33:39.420 --> 00:33:42.180 the day. So just kind of having that nice separation, 00:33:42.539 --> 00:33:46.460 which I'm excited about, but then also we want 00:33:46.460 --> 00:33:51.119 to partner with a shelter or something. Um, cause 00:33:51.119 --> 00:33:53.759 when we do have the facility, we'll have a lot 00:33:53.759 --> 00:33:56.460 more space. Yeah. So being able to take one or 00:33:56.460 --> 00:33:58.119 two shelter dogs here and there and just kind 00:33:58.119 --> 00:33:59.859 of work with them and help. Cause that would 00:33:59.859 --> 00:34:02.839 be awesome. That's my goal too. Yeah. We have 00:34:02.839 --> 00:34:06.299 a lot of shelter dogs that, um, would make it 00:34:06.299 --> 00:34:08.760 great dogs. They just need a little help. And 00:34:08.760 --> 00:34:10.780 sometimes you just have to get them out of the 00:34:10.780 --> 00:34:13.619 shelter. Yeah. Literally just get them out, put 00:34:13.619 --> 00:34:15.420 some foundation training on them, a little bit 00:34:15.420 --> 00:34:19.190 of structure and they're going. Yeah. Love that. 00:34:19.289 --> 00:34:24.070 What, um, so, and so finally, um, and then I'll 00:34:24.070 --> 00:34:26.869 kind of open the floor to talk about whatever 00:34:26.869 --> 00:34:30.929 you want. Um, what, what advice, let's transfer 00:34:30.929 --> 00:34:35.449 this from dog owners to dog trainers. What advice 00:34:35.449 --> 00:34:38.110 do you have for other dog trainers that might 00:34:38.110 --> 00:34:40.929 listen or come across the podcast that, that 00:34:40.929 --> 00:34:43.510 want to build what you've built, right? And what, 00:34:43.550 --> 00:34:47.210 what you are continuing to kind of work on? Um, 00:34:47.690 --> 00:34:51.090 Honestly, just get your hands on as many dogs 00:34:51.090 --> 00:34:53.429 as you can, especially if you're first starting 00:34:53.429 --> 00:34:58.409 out. You can watch as many trainer courses. You 00:34:58.409 --> 00:35:02.969 can go to as many. But the real experience just 00:35:02.969 --> 00:35:05.889 comes from dogs, like getting your hand on so 00:35:05.889 --> 00:35:09.650 many different dogs. Whether you've been training 00:35:09.650 --> 00:35:11.610 or you haven't, like I'm still learning. Every 00:35:11.610 --> 00:35:13.670 dog I get, I swear there's something new I learn. 00:35:13.789 --> 00:35:16.070 Yeah, every time. That's what's really going 00:35:16.070 --> 00:35:21.489 to. going to help you nice i love that um yeah 00:35:21.489 --> 00:35:24.769 i i totally agree with that right the the hands 00:35:24.769 --> 00:35:27.369 -on experience that you get from dog after dog 00:35:27.369 --> 00:35:29.969 after dog you just you learn something new like 00:35:29.969 --> 00:35:32.469 every time i get to go and do a lesson or anytime 00:35:32.469 --> 00:35:34.449 you get to go into someone else's house you see 00:35:34.449 --> 00:35:37.349 something different you're like Why do you have 00:35:37.349 --> 00:35:39.030 that? But they have it there because it made 00:35:39.030 --> 00:35:41.269 sense to them. Yeah, I mean, you don't know what 00:35:41.269 --> 00:35:44.230 you don't know. Right, exactly. So if you go 00:35:44.230 --> 00:35:46.610 into every house, you're like, oh, this is all 00:35:46.610 --> 00:35:48.610 messed up. You've got to do it this way and you've 00:35:48.610 --> 00:35:50.730 got to do it that way. Then I think as a dog 00:35:50.730 --> 00:35:52.829 trainer, you're missing out because I think you 00:35:52.829 --> 00:35:55.690 can learn from each and every client that you 00:35:55.690 --> 00:35:58.329 have, even if they're doing it technically wrong 00:35:58.329 --> 00:36:06.699 to whatever your end state is. people are doing 00:36:06.699 --> 00:36:09.719 the best they can. And so sometimes you can always 00:36:09.719 --> 00:36:12.139 glean something from those situations. So I, 00:36:12.139 --> 00:36:14.480 I, I love that how much I get to learn with that. 00:36:14.820 --> 00:36:18.380 Um, what, uh, you, do you have anything else 00:36:18.380 --> 00:36:21.820 that you want to talk about? You want to add 00:36:21.820 --> 00:36:28.119 in? No, I mean, yeah, just honest. I do love 00:36:28.119 --> 00:36:32.300 what I do. So, um, I am blessed to have my own 00:36:32.300 --> 00:36:35.119 business, make my own hours and, I just want 00:36:35.119 --> 00:36:37.059 to help many people out there with their dogs 00:36:37.059 --> 00:36:40.239 because I enjoy it, and I get such a satisfaction 00:36:40.239 --> 00:36:43.860 watching people pretty much have their lives 00:36:43.860 --> 00:36:47.440 changed, their dogs changed, and that's what 00:36:47.440 --> 00:36:51.679 makes me so happy with what I do. Awesome. Awesome. 00:36:51.780 --> 00:36:54.780 Well, I am super thankful for you joining us 00:36:54.780 --> 00:36:57.920 today. Thank you for your service to the country. 00:36:58.880 --> 00:37:02.000 Super appreciative to all of our active duty 00:37:02.000 --> 00:37:04.719 service members and things that are out there 00:37:04.719 --> 00:37:08.699 fighting the fight. Talking with you today. I 00:37:08.699 --> 00:37:10.800 mean, it's been an honor. I'm super glad that 00:37:10.800 --> 00:37:12.860 you were able to come out. I'm glad that we got 00:37:12.860 --> 00:37:15.880 the scheduling kind of nailed down. And I know 00:37:15.880 --> 00:37:18.820 that our audience can kind of gain some real 00:37:18.820 --> 00:37:21.500 value from both your experience and your leadership. 00:37:23.800 --> 00:37:26.699 With Summit Kennels, it's kind of a standout 00:37:26.699 --> 00:37:29.760 organization in the local community. And I'm 00:37:29.760 --> 00:37:31.940 super grateful that we could highlight the work 00:37:31.940 --> 00:37:35.360 that you're doing here. I think that it's important 00:37:35.360 --> 00:37:39.380 to kind of figure out how we can raise the standard 00:37:39.380 --> 00:37:43.480 of dog training in the community. I think it's 00:37:43.480 --> 00:37:46.679 pretty evident that you're kind of committed 00:37:46.679 --> 00:37:53.449 to that. I'm just excited that we could kind 00:37:53.449 --> 00:37:57.170 of sit down and partner in a way that we can 00:37:57.170 --> 00:37:59.309 raise that standard for the community. Yeah, 00:37:59.369 --> 00:38:01.469 absolutely. Thanks again for being here. Thanks 00:38:01.469 --> 00:38:03.030 for having me. All right. Thanks, Sierra.