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Welcome to Pawprint Academy, your blueprint to

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for being here. Let's get started. Hey, good

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evening. It's episode 13, Loose Leash Walking.

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Stopping polling before it starts. Hey there.

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Biggest one. Hi. Biggest one, right? So this

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is exciting because if, well, before I go down

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that road, this is exciting because we are into

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our second major, I guess, series. So this series

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is now on. basic obedience. So our first series

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was on puppies and foundation, foundation of

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leadership, foundation in how to raise a dog.

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And now we're segueing into the concept of obedience.

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And one of the biggest concepts and issues that

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we get calls about is my dog pulls on a leash.

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I can't stop my dog from just pulling everywhere

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we go. So we're going to talk about that tonight.

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And before we do, shameful plug, I am staring

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at the beautiful crystal glass shaped little

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award here that we recently got. We were recently

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voted top sales number one top choice award for.

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dog obedience program and we were super super

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blown away by uh all the votes that we got and

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uh somehow we were able to come out number one

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um it's basically a popularity contest it's a

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you log in and you vote and if you're listening

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to this um in another state not north carolina

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or you're listening to this across the across

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the pond um in the uk because Apparently we have

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a whole bunch of listeners in the UK now. So

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the, the top sale, top choice award. It's a local,

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it's a local award, but you know, humble brag.

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We, we want it. So you got to start somewhere

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and we're doing the best that we can. So yeah,

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I just wanted to highlight that because it's

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going on the little glass sculpture award got

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here today and it's going on the shelf. Yeah.

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But. Super excited about it. All right. Core

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idea for tonight. Loose leash walking. Loose

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leash walking is not just about controlling the

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dog with strength, right? And I think that immediately

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when we get into that concept, in the second

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sentence after, my dog pulls so hard on a leash,

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the next. sentence is i can barely control them

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and immediately that tells me two things one

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your dog doesn't know what leash pressure means

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and number two you don't either yeah or the client

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right the person yeah um because if you knew

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what it was then you wouldn't be framing this

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as i can't control the dog And the conversation

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would shift to I'm really having trouble getting

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my dog to engage with me or I'm getting my I'm

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having trouble getting my dog's attention or

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my dog is more interested in other things than

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me. And all of those things stem off of this

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concept of leadership. And that's where we want

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to talk about it. So the rest of this point,

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right, is that it's it's. It's not about controlling

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the dog with strength, but it's about teaching

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the dog how to follow calm, clear guidance and

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rewarding the behavior that you want. But early

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enough that before the bad habits take shape.

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Right, because that's inevitably when we always

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get the call, right? Because everybody's like,

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well, my dog pulls on a leash and I can't control

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them. But they've been dealing with that. for

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years usually at that point right and a lot of

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the times it comes down to the physical capabilities

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of the owner it comes down to the dog got bigger

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and stronger it comes down to a lot of factors

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that lead somebody to initiate a call to us but

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You can start these things really, really early

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and kind of avoid some of those pitfalls that

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you see a lot of the time. Right. Even when your

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dog is super small, super tiny, and you can't

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really go on long walks, it doesn't matter. You

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can be doing this around the house without even

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going on a walk. Right. And I think that's where

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I really blow people's minds when, when you first

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start getting into dog training, because our,

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like one of our like go -tos is like, I'll, Quick

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segue, a quick rabbit hole. So there are a lot

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of celebrity trainers or influencers and things

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on Facebook and whatever. That'll be like, I'll

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stop your dog's leash pulling in 10 minutes,

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right? And it's, okay, cool. It doesn't take

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very long to reframe the dog's mindset, right?

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Especially depending on the techniques and the

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tools that you're using. I try to aim more for,

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we do it in two sessions, right? And I do it

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that way because I know that I can do it very

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highly ethically. So number one, first session,

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we're teaching engagement. First session, I got

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to teach your dog that you are more interesting

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than everything else. I got to teach your dog

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and pattern with your dog that, hey, when they

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feel leash pressure, what does that mean? Oh,

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it means look back at you. Oh, it means look

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to you. Oh, it means we're about to do something.

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Oh, it means I'm doing the wrong thing and I

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should do something else. All of those things

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have to be learned first before I just go correcting

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and moving and doing directional changes and

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the dog is getting, you know, this leash pressure

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turned on and off and it's just looking at you

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like, what the heck? Yep. So I think. That we

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can very, very fairly and highly ethically teach

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the dog in two sessions. One, what they should

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be doing. And then show them how fun and easy

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and engaging a walk can actually be without all

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that pulling. And that's where the change happens.

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Yeah, because I think the first mistake people

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make with puppies or when getting a dog in general,

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you know, and bringing it home is you just start

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walking outside. But I never recommend, excuse

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me, I never recommend people do that, especially

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with puppies. It's like take your dog for a walk

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inside. Just walk up and down the hallway. Walk

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around things in a circle. Have the dog close

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to you with no distractions. Because if you throw

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a puppy outside, of course they're going to pull

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on a leash. They're going everywhere. Right.

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When we bring a dog into our program for that

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first three or four days, the only walks that

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we're taking are adventure walks where the dog,

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okay, sure, pull, pull all you want. Because

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that's not, we're not even worried about that

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right now. Instead, what I'm worried about is,

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oh, you want to go over there? Hey, check me

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out. Look at me over here. Oh, great job. Throw

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a party. And then, hey, guess what? I want to

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go over there. So we're reframing what the dog,

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in order for the dog to get to where they want

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to go, they have to go with me. But the actual

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leash walking lessons, they're getting taught

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in the living room. They're getting taught in

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the backyard. They're getting taught in a very

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small space, not on the road where the dog is

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going to see other dogs and other people and

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other kids running around and scootering around

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and whatever. All of those things are only going

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to work against you in that if you're really

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trying to compress your timeline. Oh, yeah. And

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when we're faced with... training a dog in two

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to three weeks or or fixing this leash pulling

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in just you know days instead of weeks well now

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every session counts yeah right so um so we're

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going to talk a little bit more about that um

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all right so understanding the root cause is

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going to one make your training a lot smoother

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but also a lot more effective um so pulling becomes,

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and the first thing here, right, to understand

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is that pulling's fun for dogs, right? Pulling,

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if your dog pulls and pulls and pulls and pulls

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on a leash, it's not because they're so uncomfortable

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that they can't stand it. Right. Otherwise they

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wouldn't do it. Right. So it's fun. It's exciting.

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It's something that the dog. enjoys doing yeah

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because dogs really only do repetitively things

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that they enjoy yep to one form or another you

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don't go dogs don't get out of bed or their kennels

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in the morning and and think like humans do where

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they're like really don't want to do that do

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this thing today but i'm gonna go ahead and jump

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in and do it right like uh cold plunges right

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humans will be hate cold plunges but i know it's

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good for me or i know i'm doing this 30 -day

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challenge or i'm doing something with whatever

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right and so they're they're gonna think through

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the discomfort and go this is good for me dogs

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don't do that dogs do not do that they do not

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think through something and go you know what

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i'll really be a better person for doing this

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nope they're impulsive nope they're just like

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I want that. I want that. I'm going to do that.

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I'm going to do that. Or I don't want that. Not

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going to do it. Not going to do that. Not going

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to do it. So when the dog is repetitively pulling

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and pulling and pulling and pulling, there's

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a reason. Yep. It's self -gratifying. It's self

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-gratifying. Right. And so one of the ways that

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it's self -gratifying is it's fun. Dogs naturally.

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love to pull and tug and throw their weight through

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an obstacle. Something that is holding them back

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and they push through it. They love that. That's

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really exciting for them. That's why tug toys

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are one of the number one sellers nationally

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every single year. You can go to the store and

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find 5 ,000 types of tug toys. Right, because

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dogs love to play tug. You can always find a

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dog that doesn't know how to fetch, right? But

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most dogs can figure out pretty quickly how to

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tug. Yeah. Because it's such a close contact

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game that you can teach it so easily for dogs.

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Absolutely. And that will get into a whole other

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thing about how I love tug. I love tug even more

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than I love fetch because fetch. increases the

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dog's drive away from you whereas tug increases

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their drive engaging with you yep um all right

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so most puppies and most dogs have never really

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learned to pay attention to the leash pressure

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instead it's just an obstacle that has to be

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overcame right because typically puppies start

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out on a flat collar right and most dogs do right

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most dogs yeah any dogs most dogs go on a flat

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collar And at the point where you hear your dog

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struggling, right? Because it's pulling so hard.

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Gasping, coughing, right? Yeah, exactly. Everyone

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knows exactly what it sounds like. The point

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where you hear your dog do that, I know nine

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out of 10 of you are flipping to a harness. and

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do i hold anybody hold that against anybody absolutely

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not nobody wants to hurt their dog or see them

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uncomfortable and that's their method of saving

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them that's what the harness was made for to

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to help dogs pull things and to increase their

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comfortability in pulling right so that's a twofold

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so one i want to draw attention to the first

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thing you said which is um most owners resort

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to the harness to protect their dog yep because

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they They don't want them to choke. We want to

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be the best to our dogs as possible. And so we

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resort to the harness because we feel it's a

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safer option for the dog, which it is. It absolutely

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is. Over a flat collar, 100%. You are protecting

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your dog. And so we love that. What we don't

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love is that when you put a dog in a harness,

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the harness was literally crafted. to help dogs

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pull right i .e a sled dog team yep so you put

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the dog in a harness and you tie them all together

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and then they can pull lots of weight very comfortably

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long distances yeah and inevitably when i say

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that and i break it down that way you see the

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light bulb go off in clients faces and they're

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like oh i did not realize but that that is exactly

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what I've done. Right. And it's like, cool. Now

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your dog's a sled dog. And it's like, I love

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bowling. There are some things with that though,

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that I think people don't realize either is one,

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like your dog can injure its neck or its shoulders

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pulling on a harness. Yeah. If they're turning

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and twisting their bodies in weird directions

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to kind of get in certain ways, they can definitely

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hurt something there. Right. So the pulling itself

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is not something we really want to encourage.

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Right. And then also the thing we always tell

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clients and worry about and hear about with harnesses

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is the fact that if that dog backpedals, nine

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times out of ten, they're free. they have nothing

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attached to them at that point. Right. Backpedaling

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out of a harness. And there's like harnesses

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have gotten more and more creative with the,

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with the little safety mechanisms and things

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that they have on it. Because one of the primary,

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you know, downsides to a harness is that a dog

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usually can backpedal out. Right. So as soon

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as, as long as they're pulling forward, they're

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well strapped in, but a lot of harnesses or basic

00:16:35.629 --> 00:16:39.419
harnesses, as soon as they, dart backwards and

00:16:39.419 --> 00:16:44.340
like duck their head right out yep and so when

00:16:44.340 --> 00:16:46.639
you switch over to the harness you kind of lose

00:16:46.639 --> 00:16:49.179
the ability to teach leash pressure at that point

00:16:49.179 --> 00:16:51.620
right because at that point it's self -rewarding

00:16:51.620 --> 00:16:55.120
because it feels good every time they pull Right.

00:16:55.179 --> 00:16:57.039
So now when you put that leash pressure on, you

00:16:57.039 --> 00:17:00.200
turn the pressure on. They're like, yeah. Right.

00:17:00.220 --> 00:17:01.980
It's like giving them a hug. Right. It's like

00:17:01.980 --> 00:17:03.720
pushing on their chest, giving them that like

00:17:03.720 --> 00:17:06.079
deep pressure therapy. And like most dogs love

00:17:06.079 --> 00:17:08.319
that. Right. You know who else loves it? Humans.

00:17:08.480 --> 00:17:11.920
Yeah. Humans. Weighted blankets. Yeah. Huge seller

00:17:11.920 --> 00:17:14.319
every Christmas that's coming up. They make dog

00:17:14.319 --> 00:17:16.799
thunder shirts. All of those things are creating

00:17:16.799 --> 00:17:20.599
the same effect in the dog's mind. Absolutely.

00:17:21.339 --> 00:17:27.519
All right. So. The lack of the structure of,

00:17:27.819 --> 00:17:33.259
I guess, what I want to say, the lack of structure

00:17:33.259 --> 00:17:38.339
in the dog's mind of where this pressure is coming

00:17:38.339 --> 00:17:44.640
from leads to confusion about what's expected

00:17:44.640 --> 00:17:52.099
on the walk. And so to boil this down very, very

00:17:52.099 --> 00:17:56.859
simply, In order to stop your dog from pawing

00:17:56.859 --> 00:18:03.460
on a leash, you have to teach them what the pressure

00:18:03.460 --> 00:18:10.799
that they feel on the leash means. And a dog

00:18:10.799 --> 00:18:14.079
that doesn't know isn't going to stop pawing.

00:18:14.180 --> 00:18:17.119
Yep. That's just how it is. They're not going

00:18:17.119 --> 00:18:19.619
to stop because of all of these reasons we've

00:18:19.619 --> 00:18:29.250
already mentioned. Yeah. What would your best

00:18:29.250 --> 00:18:32.970
advice be? For leash pulling? Yeah. So what do

00:18:32.970 --> 00:18:34.869
you tell owners if you are going to tell them

00:18:34.869 --> 00:18:38.450
in 60 seconds or less how to stop their dog from

00:18:38.450 --> 00:18:44.220
pulling? Like in practice. yeah i start inside

00:18:44.220 --> 00:18:46.599
i don't start with walking i start with the dog

00:18:46.599 --> 00:18:49.140
kind of going away from me holding steady pressure

00:18:49.140 --> 00:18:52.599
and as soon as they come towards me marking and

00:18:52.599 --> 00:18:56.579
rewarding yep so yeah it's not outside with five

00:18:56.579 --> 00:18:58.980
million distractions because people think that

00:18:58.980 --> 00:19:00.740
sometimes that's the way to do it and sometimes

00:19:00.740 --> 00:19:02.500
that works for some dogs some dogs don't really

00:19:02.500 --> 00:19:04.779
care and they adjust just fine but if we're starting

00:19:04.779 --> 00:19:11.440
from the very beginning scratch free dog I'm

00:19:11.440 --> 00:19:13.920
going to go with inside holding steady pressure

00:19:13.920 --> 00:19:16.559
on a leash. And we typically go with slip leads.

00:19:16.779 --> 00:19:18.619
You can also do that with a flat collar, right?

00:19:18.700 --> 00:19:22.920
There's nothing that says you can't teach your

00:19:22.920 --> 00:19:25.960
dog to walk on a loose leash in a flat collar.

00:19:27.119 --> 00:19:29.900
Will I say that it's not the absolute safest

00:19:29.900 --> 00:19:33.980
a lot of the times? Yes. But there's plenty of

00:19:33.980 --> 00:19:36.960
other tools and you get to choose that. The number

00:19:36.960 --> 00:19:38.599
one thing that you're going to see is if you

00:19:38.599 --> 00:19:41.519
do it outside with a million distractions, your

00:19:41.519 --> 00:19:44.400
dog's never going to really win. Right. Because

00:19:44.400 --> 00:19:48.819
there's too much going on. Yeah. So if I explain

00:19:48.819 --> 00:19:53.299
it, I go with delete all distractions. Yeah.

00:19:53.400 --> 00:19:58.319
Make a perfectly sterile environment. Put your

00:19:58.319 --> 00:20:01.859
dog on some sort of collar. Collars are going

00:20:01.859 --> 00:20:05.619
to translate the pressure better to your dog's

00:20:05.619 --> 00:20:08.839
brain. So they know exactly when it turns on

00:20:08.839 --> 00:20:11.400
and when it turns off rather than a body harness.

00:20:11.839 --> 00:20:16.180
Body harness is going to suck up a lot of that

00:20:16.180 --> 00:20:18.779
pressure and disperse it throughout the body

00:20:18.779 --> 00:20:22.400
in a way that is going to be less sensitive to

00:20:22.400 --> 00:20:29.839
the dog. So if everybody who's listening, if

00:20:29.839 --> 00:20:32.500
you guys could mute your mics for me, I turned

00:20:32.500 --> 00:20:39.609
you down there. Next thing is now I'm going to

00:20:39.609 --> 00:20:44.009
turn the pressure on from the dog or to the dog

00:20:44.009 --> 00:20:49.529
with my leash. And at the moment that they turn

00:20:49.529 --> 00:20:52.569
their attention away from whatever else is going

00:20:52.569 --> 00:20:55.450
on and they look at me, I'm marking and I'm rewarding.

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That then translates to eventually doing it a

00:21:03.609 --> 00:21:06.059
little longer distance. Then it translates into

00:21:06.059 --> 00:21:09.440
recall. Then it translates into walking. Then

00:21:09.440 --> 00:21:11.660
it translates walking around the house. Then

00:21:11.660 --> 00:21:14.119
it translates to walking around the driveway.

00:21:14.660 --> 00:21:17.480
Then it translates to walking out on the street

00:21:17.480 --> 00:21:20.079
and sidewalk. Yeah. That's the process. Yep.

00:21:20.359 --> 00:21:27.619
All right. Can. Let's see. Questions I wrote

00:21:27.619 --> 00:21:30.259
down. What's the number one reason dogs pull

00:21:30.259 --> 00:21:32.680
on the leash? We kind of answered that one because

00:21:32.680 --> 00:21:37.339
it's fun. It becomes self -gratifying. How do

00:21:37.339 --> 00:21:39.799
we explain self -rewarding behaviors to new dog

00:21:39.799 --> 00:21:41.940
owners? So we kind of talked about it, but a

00:21:41.940 --> 00:21:44.119
self -rewarding or self -gratifying behavior

00:21:44.119 --> 00:21:50.799
is a behavior that the dog no longer needs you

00:21:50.799 --> 00:21:57.319
for. A behavior that the dog gets the gratification

00:21:57.319 --> 00:22:01.720
from or gets the pleasure from on their own.

00:22:02.859 --> 00:22:06.839
without you becomes self -gratifying and that's

00:22:06.839 --> 00:22:09.599
usually when we get the call because that's when

00:22:09.599 --> 00:22:11.599
owners get super frustrated they're like i have

00:22:11.599 --> 00:22:14.640
stopped all of these things and i just cannot

00:22:14.640 --> 00:22:16.740
seem to get through to my dog right because the

00:22:16.740 --> 00:22:18.740
dog doesn't need you anymore yep because they

00:22:18.740 --> 00:22:21.160
they reinforced this and they reinforced it and

00:22:21.160 --> 00:22:25.980
eventually it became something that the dog could

00:22:25.980 --> 00:22:29.920
just do for fun and they don't need you at all

00:22:31.230 --> 00:22:32.970
Right, because if your dog's pulling on a leash,

00:22:33.049 --> 00:22:35.869
tell me that that dog even acts like they know

00:22:35.869 --> 00:22:39.609
that you're there. Right. You're right. They

00:22:39.609 --> 00:22:42.809
are escorting you with anything. Usually when

00:22:42.809 --> 00:22:45.910
a dog is pull, pull, pull, pull, pull, they don't

00:22:45.910 --> 00:22:47.250
care that you're back there. Right. You're like

00:22:47.250 --> 00:22:49.049
the carriage behind a horse. That horse does

00:22:49.049 --> 00:22:51.369
not see you. Right. You're the anchor that they're

00:22:51.369 --> 00:22:53.130
dragging. I'm just, yeah, dragging whatever this

00:22:53.130 --> 00:22:55.769
is behind me. I don't know. Right. It's moving,

00:22:56.009 --> 00:22:59.630
so it's fine. Yep. All right. Major point number

00:22:59.630 --> 00:23:02.009
two. um teaching leash pressure and direction

00:23:02.009 --> 00:23:08.509
so excuse me the leash should act as a communication

00:23:08.509 --> 00:23:14.569
line not just a uh the you're you're not supposed

00:23:14.569 --> 00:23:17.089
to just be the anchor that the dog drags around

00:23:17.089 --> 00:23:21.730
right um it's supposed to be just a line of communication

00:23:21.730 --> 00:23:26.230
it should i explain it in lessons how um it should

00:23:26.230 --> 00:23:29.509
be The differences in collars make the leash

00:23:29.509 --> 00:23:32.049
kind of the difference between dial up and broadband

00:23:32.049 --> 00:23:36.089
and like the new fiber optic cable. Right. Right.

00:23:36.130 --> 00:23:39.230
And the more sensitive a collar or more active

00:23:39.230 --> 00:23:43.410
collar that we use as a tool makes that line

00:23:43.410 --> 00:23:47.029
of communication between you significantly faster,

00:23:47.329 --> 00:23:52.789
clearer, crisper, more precise. Yep. So puppies

00:23:52.789 --> 00:23:56.920
and, you know, any dog. But especially puppies,

00:23:57.140 --> 00:24:00.440
we frame a lot of these conversations around

00:24:00.440 --> 00:24:04.319
puppies because by the time your dog is out of

00:24:04.319 --> 00:24:06.380
that puppy stage, they really should know how

00:24:06.380 --> 00:24:09.339
to walk with you on a leash. That being said,

00:24:09.559 --> 00:24:12.740
I don't want to sound like an elitist here that's

00:24:12.740 --> 00:24:15.940
like, well, if your dog's older and they don't

00:24:15.940 --> 00:24:18.220
walk on a leash, then you're lost. No, no, no,

00:24:18.240 --> 00:24:21.329
no. I got you. You can teach this at any age.

00:24:21.430 --> 00:24:24.990
But I framed most of these concept around puppies

00:24:24.990 --> 00:24:27.009
because that's usually where they need to learn

00:24:27.009 --> 00:24:31.829
to walk on that loose leash. So dogs got to learn

00:24:31.829 --> 00:24:36.569
to follow the direction of pressure rather than

00:24:36.569 --> 00:24:42.529
fight it. Now, all dogs have this natural reflex

00:24:42.529 --> 00:24:47.170
called the opposition reflex. And now all dogs

00:24:47.170 --> 00:24:49.410
have it. Regardless of what age they are. But

00:24:49.410 --> 00:24:53.690
puppies have it the strongest. Because eventually,

00:24:53.730 --> 00:24:56.829
just like a reflex, you're born with a reflex.

00:24:56.869 --> 00:24:59.650
You don't have a choice in like reacting to a

00:24:59.650 --> 00:25:02.869
reflex. But as you get older, you can kind of

00:25:02.869 --> 00:25:05.970
fight through the reflex and control it a little

00:25:05.970 --> 00:25:08.670
better as you learn to control it. All right.

00:25:08.710 --> 00:25:13.950
So the puppies are no different. They have an

00:25:13.950 --> 00:25:17.769
opposition reflex. And that opposition reflex

00:25:17.769 --> 00:25:23.109
drives the dog to resist against anything that

00:25:23.109 --> 00:25:25.990
is pulling or pushing them in a different direction.

00:25:26.230 --> 00:25:31.190
Yep. So right off the bat, we pull some pressure

00:25:31.190 --> 00:25:33.410
and the dog's going to shut down. And they're

00:25:33.410 --> 00:25:35.730
going to be like, oh, I'm going to pull against

00:25:35.730 --> 00:25:39.490
this. That's normal. That's natural. But we've

00:25:39.490 --> 00:25:44.230
got to work through that because that inevitably.

00:25:45.889 --> 00:25:49.029
starts this whole self gratifying process. Yep.

00:25:49.329 --> 00:25:50.890
And when we're talking about leash pressure,

00:25:51.049 --> 00:25:53.529
right? It's like, I want like two fingers on

00:25:53.529 --> 00:25:56.569
the handle of a leash. Usually I want steady

00:25:56.569 --> 00:26:00.069
light pressure. We're not choking the dog. We're

00:26:00.069 --> 00:26:02.269
not cutting off the air circulation, right? We

00:26:02.269 --> 00:26:04.170
are simply holding a little bit of pressure to

00:26:04.170 --> 00:26:05.849
where it's uncomfortable for the dog. And they're

00:26:05.849 --> 00:26:08.890
like, uh, why are you pulling me that way? And

00:26:08.890 --> 00:26:11.470
as soon as they take that one step, it's marking

00:26:11.470 --> 00:26:15.069
and rewarding. Yep. It's as simple as that. and

00:26:15.069 --> 00:26:17.349
it can it can sound confusing and it can sound

00:26:17.349 --> 00:26:20.369
crazy but as soon as you put it into play and

00:26:20.369 --> 00:26:23.769
you see the dog doing it you're like oh my goodness

00:26:23.769 --> 00:26:29.289
because it's so it's such a an important tool

00:26:29.289 --> 00:26:31.309
to teach your dog when you're inside is how to

00:26:31.309 --> 00:26:32.990
engage with you before you take them out into

00:26:32.990 --> 00:26:37.730
the crazy world yeah absolutely um so and and

00:26:37.730 --> 00:26:40.809
like she was just saying right using that gentle

00:26:40.809 --> 00:26:45.819
directional pressure it allows the dog to not

00:26:45.819 --> 00:26:48.500
feel like they have to turn on that opposition

00:26:48.500 --> 00:26:52.599
reflex even harder. So we don't want to just.

00:26:53.049 --> 00:26:55.549
yoke up our dog we don't want to yank on our

00:26:55.549 --> 00:26:58.130
dog right and especially on a collar now there

00:26:58.130 --> 00:27:00.990
are some collar options we talked about um collar

00:27:00.990 --> 00:27:02.970
options i think in like episode two or three

00:27:02.970 --> 00:27:05.329
yeah we talked about some different tools that

00:27:05.329 --> 00:27:08.410
we can use for accountability and there are collars

00:27:08.410 --> 00:27:12.349
that um the star mark collar the harmspringer

00:27:12.349 --> 00:27:16.890
prong collar both of those uh although they look

00:27:16.890 --> 00:27:20.329
crazy and people will get a you know they get

00:27:20.329 --> 00:27:23.210
a bad name for what they look like, they actually

00:27:23.210 --> 00:27:26.630
protect the dog's airway significantly against

00:27:26.630 --> 00:27:30.490
that pulling. And so when we take a really hard

00:27:30.490 --> 00:27:33.309
puller, sometimes those are great collars to

00:27:33.309 --> 00:27:36.289
incorporate right off the bat so that you can

00:27:36.289 --> 00:27:40.210
start to break down that habit and also keep

00:27:40.210 --> 00:27:44.069
your dog safe in the process. But that aside.

00:27:44.970 --> 00:27:47.990
We're talking about gentle directional pressure.

00:27:48.230 --> 00:27:51.250
So we turn that pressure on and we turn it on

00:27:51.250 --> 00:27:55.450
in a specific direction, back towards us. When

00:27:55.450 --> 00:27:58.829
that pressure turns on and the dog looks back

00:27:58.829 --> 00:28:01.109
at us, we mark it, we reward, and we throw a

00:28:01.109 --> 00:28:06.109
party. By continuing and being consistent with

00:28:06.109 --> 00:28:10.650
that, we teach the dog what we want them to actually

00:28:10.650 --> 00:28:14.240
do. when they feel that pressure the dogs do

00:28:14.240 --> 00:28:16.940
not realize there is a difference between when

00:28:16.940 --> 00:28:18.920
we turn the pressure on and when they turn the

00:28:18.920 --> 00:28:21.819
pressure on to them the pressure is the same

00:28:21.819 --> 00:28:26.900
yeah all right next we pair movement with our

00:28:26.900 --> 00:28:29.680
marker words like our yes and free and we move

00:28:29.680 --> 00:28:32.160
away from the dog which incites their prey drive

00:28:32.160 --> 00:28:36.039
and brings them towards us to make it even more

00:28:36.039 --> 00:28:40.730
clear to the dog yeah lastly We really want to

00:28:40.730 --> 00:28:45.069
avoid this like steady tension. And so we want

00:28:45.069 --> 00:28:47.910
to turn the pressure on, get the dog to realize

00:28:47.910 --> 00:28:51.150
that it's on, have them do something and then

00:28:51.150 --> 00:28:53.529
immediately turn it off. Yep. What we don't want

00:28:53.529 --> 00:28:56.470
to do is just pull pressure and just pull them

00:28:56.470 --> 00:29:00.710
or reel them back in towards us. Yeah. We don't

00:29:00.710 --> 00:29:06.549
want to do that. All right. Questions for this

00:29:06.549 --> 00:29:11.599
section. had how do we teach owners the time

00:29:11.599 --> 00:29:16.660
to release the pressure correctly? I know you're

00:29:16.660 --> 00:29:22.170
big on see one, do one, teach one. Yep. I also

00:29:22.170 --> 00:29:24.690
am really big on, I've watched. That was the

00:29:24.690 --> 00:29:27.349
answer? Well, no. Oh, sorry. I mean, that is

00:29:27.349 --> 00:29:30.069
a great, that is a great way for them to see

00:29:30.069 --> 00:29:31.829
you do it. And you're really dramatic with the

00:29:31.829 --> 00:29:33.829
movements. And I think that's like really helpful

00:29:33.829 --> 00:29:36.109
for most owners is just to be able to see the

00:29:36.109 --> 00:29:40.309
leash movement. Even if it's like with a sit,

00:29:40.430 --> 00:29:43.349
that's one of the like perfect ways because as

00:29:43.349 --> 00:29:45.650
soon as the dog's butt hits the ground, you release

00:29:45.650 --> 00:29:47.809
the pressure and just like kind of drop the leash.

00:29:49.480 --> 00:29:52.680
other than that outside of that i've also seen

00:29:52.680 --> 00:29:55.079
it by a lot of other trainers i don't think we've

00:29:55.079 --> 00:29:58.039
done this one too terribly often for loose leash

00:29:58.039 --> 00:30:00.920
walking or leash pressure but connecting it to

00:30:00.920 --> 00:30:04.000
another person right so let the owner hold the

00:30:04.000 --> 00:30:07.680
leash and you be the dog and then flip -flop

00:30:07.680 --> 00:30:10.960
yes uh that is one of my that's one of my favorites

00:30:10.960 --> 00:30:14.079
now yeah on the and the in the first lesson right

00:30:14.079 --> 00:30:17.740
because you don't want to go ahead sorry i i

00:30:17.740 --> 00:30:21.839
just don't like When owners are so worried about

00:30:21.839 --> 00:30:25.160
how, about messing up with their dog. Right.

00:30:25.160 --> 00:30:26.480
They don't want to, I don't want to mess up my

00:30:26.480 --> 00:30:28.220
dog. I don't want to mess up my dog. And it's

00:30:28.220 --> 00:30:31.660
like, your, your dog's already pulling, like

00:30:31.660 --> 00:30:34.660
they've got a, you know, like they got to get

00:30:34.660 --> 00:30:37.240
out of Dodge. So like, you're not going to mess

00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:39.460
them up. Right. By just pulling a little pressure

00:30:39.460 --> 00:30:42.779
here. However, cool. Let me be the dog then.

00:30:43.019 --> 00:30:46.339
Right. And that seems to work really, really

00:30:46.339 --> 00:30:49.509
well. Yeah. Um, but what that looks like because

00:30:49.509 --> 00:30:52.069
we're talking about it, but like you can't see

00:30:52.069 --> 00:30:55.569
anything cause it's a podcast. Um, so me being

00:30:55.569 --> 00:30:59.250
the dog, I'll hold the end of the leash and then

00:30:59.250 --> 00:31:02.470
I'll pull against it, pull against it, pull against

00:31:02.470 --> 00:31:05.670
it, have the owner turn the pressure on, pull,

00:31:05.809 --> 00:31:09.470
pull, pull, pull, pull. I turn, I look at the

00:31:09.470 --> 00:31:13.700
owner. And then have them rep out what I want

00:31:13.700 --> 00:31:17.119
them to do, which is immediately release that

00:31:17.119 --> 00:31:22.319
pressure, mark it, and reward it. Yep. In whichever

00:31:22.319 --> 00:31:26.880
way that you do, right? We recommend using free

00:31:26.880 --> 00:31:30.819
because that's our release word. That's what

00:31:30.819 --> 00:31:35.059
we teach our dogs with. And that releases them

00:31:35.059 --> 00:31:38.140
to come towards me and get the treat. Mm -hmm.

00:31:40.519 --> 00:31:42.799
All right, what's our next one? Early drills

00:31:42.799 --> 00:31:45.519
that help puppies understand directional leash

00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:51.220
pressure the fastest. So turn that pressure on,

00:31:51.380 --> 00:31:53.660
releasing as they come towards me. The other

00:31:53.660 --> 00:31:57.660
one that I like to do is get it free. So this,

00:31:57.799 --> 00:32:00.220
I take a little piece of treat. I've got them

00:32:00.220 --> 00:32:03.240
on a leash. I say. Get it. I toss the treat away

00:32:03.240 --> 00:32:06.519
from me and I give them slack on the leash so

00:32:06.519 --> 00:32:09.019
that they can go and they get it. As they're

00:32:09.019 --> 00:32:11.400
grabbing that treat and as they're getting that

00:32:11.400 --> 00:32:15.599
treat, I turn the leash pressure on just slightly

00:32:15.599 --> 00:32:18.940
back towards me. They're already having a good

00:32:18.940 --> 00:32:20.980
time. They're grabbing a treat. They're getting

00:32:20.980 --> 00:32:23.799
something. They're excited about it. It's kind

00:32:23.799 --> 00:32:26.400
of a game. And then I'm turning that leash pressure

00:32:26.400 --> 00:32:29.160
on. And then as soon as they turn back towards

00:32:29.160 --> 00:32:32.910
me, I'm saying free. Turning the pressure off

00:32:32.910 --> 00:32:35.329
and then offering them another reward for them

00:32:35.329 --> 00:32:38.410
to run and scamper back to me and get it. Super,

00:32:38.509 --> 00:32:41.569
super fun game for little puppies because they

00:32:41.569 --> 00:32:46.809
get a treat in both directions. That's my go

00:32:46.809 --> 00:32:51.609
-to. Mistakes that we see owners commonly make

00:32:51.609 --> 00:32:55.269
when introducing leaf pressure. My number one,

00:32:55.410 --> 00:32:57.509
not turning it off. Yeah, not turning it off.

00:32:57.769 --> 00:33:00.509
And so this happens when there's just too many

00:33:00.509 --> 00:33:03.049
things going on. And this is why I like to be

00:33:03.049 --> 00:33:07.630
the dog in the demo because inevitably owner

00:33:07.630 --> 00:33:10.630
pulls pressure. And a lot of times we see the

00:33:10.630 --> 00:33:13.490
hand just go up over the head. Yeah. And I don't,

00:33:13.490 --> 00:33:15.630
right. They raise their arm because they're like

00:33:15.630 --> 00:33:18.769
trying to take out the slack of the leash. And

00:33:18.769 --> 00:33:21.069
that's just natural for them to like keep it

00:33:21.069 --> 00:33:22.970
from dragging the ground. Right. And so they

00:33:22.970 --> 00:33:24.809
just raise their arm instead of pulling their

00:33:24.809 --> 00:33:27.809
arm back towards them. They're like raising their

00:33:27.809 --> 00:33:31.910
arm. And so what happens is. They turn the pressure

00:33:31.910 --> 00:33:35.509
on by raising their arm. And then it's just a

00:33:35.509 --> 00:33:38.349
coordination issue. And it's funny to watch,

00:33:38.390 --> 00:33:41.450
but it's totally natural and normal. But then

00:33:41.450 --> 00:33:44.009
the arm just stays there. It just stays above

00:33:44.009 --> 00:33:46.789
their head. And then they're like rewarding their

00:33:46.789 --> 00:33:49.009
dog. They're like, yeah, good job. With their

00:33:49.009 --> 00:33:52.650
other hand and their arm, their opposite hand

00:33:52.650 --> 00:33:55.670
is still up above their head. And the dog is

00:33:55.670 --> 00:34:01.380
like, I'm still like on the pressure. And what

00:34:01.380 --> 00:34:04.519
that does is it just doesn't teach the dog how

00:34:04.519 --> 00:34:08.559
to turn the pressure off. We've got to teach

00:34:08.559 --> 00:34:11.480
the dog how to turn the pressure off because

00:34:11.480 --> 00:34:16.079
that is the lesson that stops leash pulling.

00:34:16.300 --> 00:34:20.920
Yep. We said this a different way, which was

00:34:20.920 --> 00:34:25.380
here's how we stop it. We teach this, but the

00:34:25.380 --> 00:34:29.260
actual true lesson that stops leash pulling.

00:34:30.090 --> 00:34:35.630
is teaching the dog how to turn off the uncomfortable

00:34:35.630 --> 00:34:40.250
pressure. No dog really wants that pressure of

00:34:40.250 --> 00:34:43.989
the leash, but they will generally just either

00:34:43.989 --> 00:34:50.010
deal with it because they want whatever else

00:34:50.010 --> 00:34:53.079
it is that they're going after. Right? No dog

00:34:53.079 --> 00:34:54.619
really wants to choke. When we're talking about

00:34:54.619 --> 00:34:57.159
the dog that's like choking, yeah, there is a

00:34:57.159 --> 00:35:00.460
self -gratifying behavior of like pulling against

00:35:00.460 --> 00:35:02.159
something. But at the point where it becomes

00:35:02.159 --> 00:35:05.659
choking, the dogs don't really want that. Yeah.

00:35:05.739 --> 00:35:09.139
Right? No dog really wants to choke. But most

00:35:09.139 --> 00:35:13.079
dogs are very willing to choke in order to get

00:35:13.079 --> 00:35:15.920
what they truly want, which is maybe a dog, a

00:35:15.920 --> 00:35:19.699
person, a treat, a squirrel. Yep. Whatever it

00:35:19.699 --> 00:35:26.219
is. All right. So the way that we fix it is by

00:35:26.219 --> 00:35:29.619
teaching the dog, this is how you turn pressure

00:35:29.619 --> 00:35:34.059
off. And then all of those other things go away.

00:35:34.159 --> 00:35:38.599
All right. So the last key to this loose leash

00:35:38.599 --> 00:35:41.980
walking is really building engagement on the

00:35:41.980 --> 00:35:47.840
walk. So this is why I say that we, this is why

00:35:47.840 --> 00:35:51.230
that I really frame. Our lessons around stopping

00:35:51.230 --> 00:35:53.610
leash pulling in two sessions instead of just

00:35:53.610 --> 00:35:57.030
one. Because I want to use that first session

00:35:57.030 --> 00:36:00.889
to build and bolster the dog's engagement with

00:36:00.889 --> 00:36:04.230
you. Or you're the owner, the handler, the whatever.

00:36:05.469 --> 00:36:09.969
A dog that pays attention is a dog that's going

00:36:09.969 --> 00:36:14.550
to walk politely. A dog that pays attention is

00:36:14.550 --> 00:36:17.559
one that's going to give engagement to you. And

00:36:17.559 --> 00:36:21.460
engagement prevents pulling before it even starts.

00:36:22.079 --> 00:36:26.860
A dog cannot physically be engaged to you and

00:36:26.860 --> 00:36:31.360
also pulling away from you at the same time.

00:36:31.639 --> 00:36:34.539
Yep. Got to be looking at you. Right. They're

00:36:34.539 --> 00:36:37.579
inversely proportional. Yeah. So the more engaged

00:36:37.579 --> 00:36:39.860
to you, the less they're going to pull. The more

00:36:39.860 --> 00:36:41.739
engaged to you, the less they're going to react

00:36:41.739 --> 00:36:44.239
to other dogs or other people. So how do you

00:36:44.239 --> 00:36:48.960
get that engagement? Right. we we use turns yep

00:36:48.960 --> 00:36:53.000
right so um at the point where your dog is going

00:36:53.000 --> 00:36:56.440
to like forge ahead or stop engaging to you and

00:36:56.440 --> 00:36:59.280
go where they want i'm just going to turn around

00:36:59.280 --> 00:37:00.920
yeah i'm going to turn around i'm going to go

00:37:00.920 --> 00:37:03.420
the other way and then what's going to inevitably

00:37:03.420 --> 00:37:06.980
happen is that dog's going to end up at the end

00:37:06.980 --> 00:37:10.179
of the leash and they're going to do one of two

00:37:10.179 --> 00:37:12.139
things they're going to notice they're going

00:37:12.139 --> 00:37:14.679
to turn around and they're going to join me on

00:37:14.679 --> 00:37:17.639
their own or They're going to get a correction.

00:37:18.320 --> 00:37:20.679
Right. That leash is going to get tight. Yep.

00:37:20.960 --> 00:37:23.860
And they're going to feel that pressure. Yeah.

00:37:23.940 --> 00:37:26.699
And when we see owners trying to teach their

00:37:26.699 --> 00:37:28.900
dogs how to walk on the leash, it's inevitable

00:37:28.900 --> 00:37:31.519
that they give them like 24 inches to walk on.

00:37:31.579 --> 00:37:33.699
And they think that that's like helping kind

00:37:33.699 --> 00:37:35.840
of the situation. Right. Because they want to

00:37:35.840 --> 00:37:40.659
control more. So they shorten their leash. But

00:37:40.659 --> 00:37:44.579
when we teach loose leash walking, we teach it

00:37:44.579 --> 00:37:47.010
on like a 10 foot leash. 15 foot leash sometimes.

00:37:47.250 --> 00:37:51.090
Yeah. Mostly 10. But you want to be holding and

00:37:51.090 --> 00:37:54.130
it feels weird and it feels like you're doing

00:37:54.130 --> 00:37:57.869
it wrong. But you want to just hold the handle

00:37:57.869 --> 00:38:00.809
loop of that leash. Yep. And that sounds crazy.

00:38:00.849 --> 00:38:03.389
You want to give them as much leash as you have.

00:38:03.650 --> 00:38:06.030
And then because when you turn and go, that gives

00:38:06.030 --> 00:38:09.489
them more time to pay attention to where you

00:38:09.489 --> 00:38:12.510
are and realize that you turned. It makes it

00:38:12.510 --> 00:38:18.460
more clear to the dog. Yep. that if you were

00:38:18.460 --> 00:38:23.360
on 12 inches of leash and you were the dog, if

00:38:23.360 --> 00:38:26.280
you go left, you're going to get tightness. If

00:38:26.280 --> 00:38:27.559
you go right, you're going to get tightness.

00:38:27.579 --> 00:38:28.960
If you go forward, you're going to get tightness.

00:38:29.000 --> 00:38:30.119
If you go back, you're going to get tightness.

00:38:30.179 --> 00:38:33.159
There's not enough leash for you to even make

00:38:33.159 --> 00:38:37.380
decisions. And so if you don't speak English

00:38:37.380 --> 00:38:39.639
at all or you don't speak the same language and

00:38:39.639 --> 00:38:42.539
everything that you try ends up with a correction,

00:38:42.860 --> 00:38:45.719
you're going to get frustrated. Right. I just

00:38:45.719 --> 00:38:47.280
said that to an owner yesterday. I was like,

00:38:47.300 --> 00:38:49.059
you have to give your dog the opportunity to

00:38:49.059 --> 00:38:51.980
fail or they're not going to learn. If you keep

00:38:51.980 --> 00:38:55.360
them in a bubble and don't let them make the

00:38:55.360 --> 00:38:57.119
wrong choice, they're never going to know the

00:38:57.119 --> 00:38:58.719
difference between the right choice and the wrong

00:38:58.719 --> 00:39:01.239
choice. And I'm going to add to that and raise

00:39:01.239 --> 00:39:05.579
you. You also have to let your dog succeed. Oh,

00:39:05.579 --> 00:39:09.400
yeah. Right. And a long line allows you to do

00:39:09.400 --> 00:39:12.280
that because either they're going to succeed

00:39:12.280 --> 00:39:15.539
or fail. Yep. But you've now stacked the cards

00:39:15.539 --> 00:39:17.559
in the favor of learning. Right. You've given

00:39:17.559 --> 00:39:20.900
them ample opportunity. Correct. Fair opportunity

00:39:20.900 --> 00:39:23.599
to pay attention. Whereas if you're on a short

00:39:23.599 --> 00:39:26.780
leash. Yeah. It's like I've stacked the cards

00:39:26.780 --> 00:39:29.500
in the favor of you failing. You're going to

00:39:29.500 --> 00:39:31.820
get a correction for sure. Yeah. Correction.

00:39:31.860 --> 00:39:34.260
Left. Right. Forward, backward, doesn't matter.

00:39:34.500 --> 00:39:36.599
Yep. So we just, yeah, we turn and go. If the

00:39:36.599 --> 00:39:39.300
dog is like super far forging ahead or like really

00:39:39.300 --> 00:39:41.059
just not paying attention, we just turn around.

00:39:41.219 --> 00:39:44.440
Use your turns. Use pace changes. Yep. And then

00:39:44.440 --> 00:39:48.179
use your verbal markers. Use a verbal marker

00:39:48.179 --> 00:39:51.500
rather than a treat marker. Yeah. On the walk.

00:39:51.639 --> 00:39:55.760
Because treats and food are stimulants. Yep.

00:39:56.119 --> 00:39:59.139
And usually when we're dealing with leash pulling,

00:39:59.360 --> 00:40:01.440
we're already dealing with an excited dog. We're

00:40:01.440 --> 00:40:04.469
not dealing with a scared dog. And we could.

00:40:04.650 --> 00:40:08.050
We could. But most of the time. It's not a scared

00:40:08.050 --> 00:40:10.090
dog. It's not an anxious dog. It's a dog that's

00:40:10.090 --> 00:40:13.130
like, I love it. I'm so excited to be outside.

00:40:13.750 --> 00:40:16.329
And so they're just pulling where they want to

00:40:16.329 --> 00:40:19.969
go. Yep. All right. Reward the dog for staying

00:40:19.969 --> 00:40:21.750
in position. Here's the next thing that I see

00:40:21.750 --> 00:40:25.170
people mess up all the time. Is that, cool, they're

00:40:25.170 --> 00:40:26.889
doing the right thing and you're not doing anything

00:40:26.889 --> 00:40:29.989
about it. Yeah. But they do the wrong thing and

00:40:29.989 --> 00:40:32.519
you're correcting them. Or they do the wrong

00:40:32.519 --> 00:40:35.980
thing and they're getting pressure. But what

00:40:35.980 --> 00:40:38.099
about when they're doing the right thing? Tell

00:40:38.099 --> 00:40:40.619
them. Tell them that they're doing the right

00:40:40.619 --> 00:40:42.420
thing and that's why you need to have a marker

00:40:42.420 --> 00:40:45.460
that doesn't necessarily have a treat connected

00:40:45.460 --> 00:40:51.519
to it and doesn't mean you're done. I watched

00:40:51.519 --> 00:40:55.139
a guy earlier on a video teach his, he had a...

00:40:57.549 --> 00:41:00.090
Great Pyrenees and he would walk around the fields

00:41:00.090 --> 00:41:01.829
and he said the dog would follow him by his side

00:41:01.829 --> 00:41:03.349
and he would just like reach down and like scratch

00:41:03.349 --> 00:41:05.869
his chin and then he realized that it was like

00:41:05.869 --> 00:41:08.469
a perfect heel position and so he just built

00:41:08.469 --> 00:41:11.889
the chin scratches in to make like the perfect

00:41:11.889 --> 00:41:14.750
heel. I've never even seen a Great Pyrenees heel

00:41:14.750 --> 00:41:18.670
like a professional like engaged heel and that

00:41:18.670 --> 00:41:21.070
dog was healing so crazy just for some chin scratches.

00:41:21.369 --> 00:41:23.650
I love the chin scratches. And I was amazed.

00:41:23.769 --> 00:41:26.130
It was so cool but he was like The dog is what

00:41:26.130 --> 00:41:27.869
the dog is. The dog likes what the dog likes.

00:41:27.889 --> 00:41:29.690
If the dog wants chin scratches to stay in a

00:41:29.690 --> 00:41:32.570
heel, cool. We've reshaped that. Like, awesome.

00:41:32.690 --> 00:41:35.630
Love it. Yeah. Give him what he wants. Yeah.

00:41:36.789 --> 00:41:41.489
Yeah. I love that. So we want, so we were talking

00:41:41.489 --> 00:41:44.110
about rewarding the dog for staying in position.

00:41:44.309 --> 00:41:48.170
Yeah. Reward what the dog wants. Yep. What is

00:41:48.170 --> 00:41:52.710
important to the dog. Yeah. And then last, just

00:41:52.710 --> 00:41:56.210
use these short structured sessions because they're

00:41:56.210 --> 00:41:57.809
going to build better habits than these like

00:41:57.809 --> 00:42:01.769
long drawn out chaotic walks. So when I take

00:42:01.769 --> 00:42:05.670
a dog out and it goes poorly, we don't get to

00:42:05.670 --> 00:42:07.530
the end of the street before I'm coming back.

00:42:07.670 --> 00:42:10.789
Oh, yeah. Right. Because it doesn't do me any

00:42:10.789 --> 00:42:17.510
good to draw out these long walks for like more

00:42:17.510 --> 00:42:22.070
practice. at doing the wrong thing oh yeah sometimes

00:42:22.070 --> 00:42:23.829
i'll try to go to the mailbox and if i can't

00:42:23.829 --> 00:42:26.429
make it there without like six turns i'm like

00:42:26.429 --> 00:42:28.030
well i'm gonna just take the dog we're gonna

00:42:28.030 --> 00:42:29.849
we're gonna go back now i guess i'm not gonna

00:42:29.849 --> 00:42:31.690
make it to the mailbox i'll go by myself and

00:42:31.690 --> 00:42:38.750
that's okay yeah because you you don't um another

00:42:38.750 --> 00:42:44.289
concept here you do not have to walk your dog

00:42:44.289 --> 00:42:50.920
only for exercise um larry crone says this in

00:42:50.920 --> 00:42:54.440
all of his videos but he says this uh and and

00:42:54.440 --> 00:42:59.760
he he sticks by it here right the um why are

00:42:59.760 --> 00:43:03.340
you walking your dog right and people are like

00:43:03.340 --> 00:43:05.300
well my dog pulls and my dog does this my dog

00:43:05.300 --> 00:43:08.280
does that but i i walk him every day how often

00:43:08.280 --> 00:43:14.179
do you walk him every day why well because something

00:43:14.179 --> 00:43:17.380
right and inevitably it's well because they need

00:43:17.380 --> 00:43:20.079
exercise or because it lowers their stress level

00:43:20.079 --> 00:43:22.440
or because i saw it on a youtube video and it's

00:43:22.440 --> 00:43:25.159
good for my dog i like walking or right because

00:43:25.159 --> 00:43:31.119
i like it uh the inevitable answer that he gives

00:43:31.119 --> 00:43:36.300
is but can you accomplish those things in another

00:43:36.300 --> 00:43:40.199
way because when you're when you're taking your

00:43:40.199 --> 00:43:44.960
dog out and they're not walking well you're reinforcing

00:43:45.820 --> 00:43:50.659
that behavior yep so shorten your walks shorten

00:43:50.659 --> 00:43:54.960
your sessions or walk them in other less distracting

00:43:54.960 --> 00:43:59.099
environments until they're showing you that they're

00:43:59.099 --> 00:44:02.699
ready to then graduate and go to the next challenge

00:44:02.699 --> 00:44:08.059
yeah but we see it all the time people will take

00:44:08.059 --> 00:44:11.960
their brand new puppy or whatever it is and it's

00:44:11.960 --> 00:44:16.280
like walking on the side of uh you know the the

00:44:16.280 --> 00:44:18.199
boardwalk in the surf city with all the cars

00:44:18.199 --> 00:44:20.860
going by and bikes and dogs and everything else

00:44:20.860 --> 00:44:23.079
skirting by and they're going over the bridge

00:44:23.079 --> 00:44:26.000
and there's like a hundred people walking past

00:44:26.000 --> 00:44:29.320
them and everything yeah it's like that if if

00:44:29.320 --> 00:44:31.719
your dog is doing great then they're then great

00:44:31.719 --> 00:44:34.949
they're doing great no problem But that's not

00:44:34.949 --> 00:44:37.250
usually the ones that even call us. So we're

00:44:37.250 --> 00:44:39.809
not really talking about them. Right. When you

00:44:39.809 --> 00:44:42.090
when your dog is doing great, then cool. You

00:44:42.090 --> 00:44:44.849
you nailed it. You hit the genetic right. You

00:44:44.849 --> 00:44:47.050
turn this off. Don't even listen to us because

00:44:47.050 --> 00:44:51.289
you hit the genetic lottery. Right. Like or you're

00:44:51.289 --> 00:44:54.610
super astute and you are nailing down all of

00:44:54.610 --> 00:44:56.329
the basics and you're leading your dog. Great

00:44:56.329 --> 00:45:01.500
job. No change necessary. But most of the people

00:45:01.500 --> 00:45:03.400
who do listen to this and most of the people

00:45:03.400 --> 00:45:07.159
that do call us don't have that situation. And

00:45:07.159 --> 00:45:09.460
then they're like, well, I take my dog to the

00:45:09.460 --> 00:45:12.719
park. And you're, okay, cool. Does your dog listen

00:45:12.719 --> 00:45:14.599
to you? Does your dog engage to you? Well, no,

00:45:14.679 --> 00:45:16.480
they're really interested in the squirrels and

00:45:16.480 --> 00:45:20.260
the birds and the whatever. Okay, cool. We found

00:45:20.260 --> 00:45:23.679
the problem. So let's minimize that. Take them

00:45:23.679 --> 00:45:27.260
somewhere quieter. Take them somewhere with less

00:45:27.260 --> 00:45:29.219
volume. Take them somewhere with less distraction.

00:45:30.089 --> 00:45:32.510
Start there. Right. I think a lot of people build

00:45:32.510 --> 00:45:35.670
on it. Expect the dog to step up to their standard

00:45:35.670 --> 00:45:38.550
before they're willing to go down to where the

00:45:38.550 --> 00:45:42.530
dog is at. And not like on a hierarchy. Right.

00:45:42.650 --> 00:45:45.949
It's on a learning curve. Right. The dog needs

00:45:45.949 --> 00:45:49.550
to learn how to do it. The dog just doesn't know.

00:45:49.710 --> 00:45:52.690
I think some people think that the dog just wants

00:45:52.690 --> 00:45:54.230
to get away from them and just doesn't care.

00:45:54.309 --> 00:45:56.590
And this and the other. But the dog just doesn't

00:45:56.590 --> 00:46:00.239
know. And so you need to drop yourself down to

00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:02.820
their level and be like, how do I teach them

00:46:02.820 --> 00:46:07.199
what that means? Instead of just expecting my

00:46:07.199 --> 00:46:12.019
dog to be a rock star in the craziest environment.

00:46:12.480 --> 00:46:15.800
Yeah. Right. Initially. Initially. Right. You

00:46:15.800 --> 00:46:18.920
can build that rock star status. We want to see

00:46:18.920 --> 00:46:21.300
that. Everybody should be encouraged to do that.

00:46:21.380 --> 00:46:23.760
I want to see those dogs walking in all those

00:46:23.760 --> 00:46:26.610
environments. That's great. But you can't start

00:46:26.610 --> 00:46:32.550
there. And we understand that as humans. We're

00:46:32.550 --> 00:46:36.610
like, oh, well, my little baby has to crawl before

00:46:36.610 --> 00:46:38.510
they walk. And they have to walk before they

00:46:38.510 --> 00:46:40.530
run. And they have to run before they can join

00:46:40.530 --> 00:46:44.030
the track team. But with puppies, they seem so

00:46:44.030 --> 00:46:46.869
much more capable. And it's like, I want my dog

00:46:46.869 --> 00:46:50.630
to sit and then stay. For 10 minutes. Right.

00:46:50.750 --> 00:46:52.929
Like, hold on a minute. Right. Have they done

00:46:52.929 --> 00:46:54.670
that for two? Have they done that for 30 seconds?

00:46:54.690 --> 00:46:57.869
Yeah. Then 45 seconds? Then a minute? Yeah. Exactly.

00:46:58.170 --> 00:47:04.190
All right. What do you recommend to keep a young

00:47:04.190 --> 00:47:07.030
puppy engaged in those distracting environments?

00:47:07.949 --> 00:47:12.369
Food and movement. Okay. But how do you characterize

00:47:12.369 --> 00:47:15.789
food, right? Earlier I had said, well, I don't

00:47:15.789 --> 00:47:20.219
recommend food as a stimulant. So where do you

00:47:20.219 --> 00:47:25.320
draw the line? I usually draw the line. I give

00:47:25.320 --> 00:47:27.460
it a little bit of practice first, right? I will

00:47:27.460 --> 00:47:31.139
rep out some things with food before I kind of

00:47:31.139 --> 00:47:35.840
fade the food out. And that's where we kind of

00:47:35.840 --> 00:47:37.619
start with everything, right? We always start

00:47:37.619 --> 00:47:40.380
with food lore, leash pressure, verbal. Those

00:47:40.380 --> 00:47:43.480
are our languages. I think especially when we're

00:47:43.480 --> 00:47:45.199
talking about puppies, like you should be using

00:47:45.199 --> 00:47:49.199
food for most things, right? And you're not going

00:47:49.199 --> 00:47:51.840
on long walks here. You're going on little training

00:47:51.840 --> 00:47:54.880
walks. And that's the difference I think and

00:47:54.880 --> 00:47:57.460
the boundary for me is whether I'm just on a

00:47:57.460 --> 00:47:59.260
walk because I need to go get the mail and I

00:47:59.260 --> 00:48:00.940
just want the dog to walk with me and I'm like,

00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:04.280
hey, this is our expectation. Or whether I'm

00:48:04.280 --> 00:48:06.690
like, hey. We're going to do some training and

00:48:06.690 --> 00:48:08.849
I'm going to work with you and make sure you're

00:48:08.849 --> 00:48:11.349
super motivated and I want you to have a great

00:48:11.349 --> 00:48:14.429
time with it and I'm ready to like do a session

00:48:14.429 --> 00:48:17.349
with you. I have time. I have the motivation.

00:48:17.690 --> 00:48:20.110
I have the capacity. I'm going to take some food

00:48:20.110 --> 00:48:21.829
with me and we're going to have like a really

00:48:21.829 --> 00:48:24.699
amped up session. Because that's what makes the

00:48:24.699 --> 00:48:26.400
dog want to do it over and over and over again.

00:48:26.480 --> 00:48:29.059
It's not you making them do it every time with

00:48:29.059 --> 00:48:32.059
no food and no reward and nothing to be given.

00:48:32.320 --> 00:48:34.800
If they're a food motivated dog, especially if

00:48:34.800 --> 00:48:37.079
they're a puppy, they should be working for that

00:48:37.079 --> 00:48:40.260
food, building that engagement with you and having

00:48:40.260 --> 00:48:42.400
a good time so that when you do go to the mailbox

00:48:42.400 --> 00:48:43.820
and you're just like, hey, let's go for a walk.

00:48:43.920 --> 00:48:46.800
I don't have any food. It's okay. Because your

00:48:46.800 --> 00:48:48.980
dog still understands that you're valuable and

00:48:48.980 --> 00:48:51.579
give them something when they get back. Yeah.

00:48:52.650 --> 00:48:59.190
Um, one last question. What role does handler

00:48:59.190 --> 00:49:04.530
body language play in all of this? So, right.

00:49:04.670 --> 00:49:09.929
And, and I don't want to, uh, close out the podcast

00:49:09.929 --> 00:49:12.670
without talking about body language because this

00:49:12.670 --> 00:49:16.869
is on one more like really big final defining

00:49:16.869 --> 00:49:22.420
detail in this whole process. Dogs don't speak

00:49:22.420 --> 00:49:25.880
English. We all laugh at this and know this and

00:49:25.880 --> 00:49:28.099
roll our eyes because everybody likes to say

00:49:28.099 --> 00:49:30.739
this. Oh, dogs don't speak English. Right? They

00:49:30.739 --> 00:49:36.039
really don't. So if you know that, what do you

00:49:36.039 --> 00:49:38.900
think your dog pays attention to the most? Your

00:49:38.900 --> 00:49:43.820
body language. Dogs are experts at reading body

00:49:43.820 --> 00:49:46.349
language. And you can find all sorts of funny

00:49:46.349 --> 00:49:49.050
videos on this on Facebook and YouTube and stuff

00:49:49.050 --> 00:49:51.929
like that where people will just be very quiet,

00:49:52.010 --> 00:49:54.969
not say a word, and not even talk to the dog

00:49:54.969 --> 00:49:58.030
or engage the dog, but just display these different

00:49:58.030 --> 00:50:01.530
major changes in emotion and watch the dog's

00:50:01.530 --> 00:50:04.170
body language. Yeah. And they change with you

00:50:04.170 --> 00:50:08.070
because they pick up on the body language. They

00:50:08.070 --> 00:50:10.030
are experts at that because they don't know what

00:50:10.030 --> 00:50:12.650
the words mean. So they pick up on that way better.

00:50:12.989 --> 00:50:15.710
And that's how they communicate from dog to dog

00:50:15.710 --> 00:50:21.889
as well. So that's their language. So when you

00:50:21.889 --> 00:50:25.630
are walking and you're looking around and you're

00:50:25.630 --> 00:50:28.590
looking to the sky and you're, you know, just

00:50:28.590 --> 00:50:34.909
waddling through this walk, the dog is going

00:50:34.909 --> 00:50:37.489
to be like, all right, this guy doesn't know

00:50:37.489 --> 00:50:42.630
where he's going. I need to lead. And then they're

00:50:42.630 --> 00:50:47.670
going to. Yeah. So instead you need to walk confidently

00:50:47.670 --> 00:50:50.130
and you need to walk with purpose. You need to

00:50:50.130 --> 00:50:52.969
walk like you've got somewhere to be and you're

00:50:52.969 --> 00:50:58.590
going there. Yep. And then go. So we teach owners

00:50:58.590 --> 00:51:03.349
to walk with intention. Use your body language.

00:51:03.409 --> 00:51:07.010
Show where you're going and that you're going

00:51:07.010 --> 00:51:12.139
there now. Yep. That will help your dog so much.

00:51:13.619 --> 00:51:19.139
And it's completely nonverbal. All right. So

00:51:19.139 --> 00:51:25.460
at this point, I am going to. We've got our listener

00:51:25.460 --> 00:51:28.500
projects here at the very end. I'm going to open

00:51:28.500 --> 00:51:34.460
this up here to. uh questions so if you are listening

00:51:34.460 --> 00:51:37.940
to this live now is the time to unmute your mics

00:51:37.940 --> 00:51:43.400
ask your questions um we'll handle anything that

00:51:43.400 --> 00:51:45.480
comes up here and then we'll go into our listener

00:51:45.480 --> 00:51:50.760
projects so at this point let me turn this guy

00:51:50.760 --> 00:51:57.400
up does anybody have a question i don't have

00:51:57.400 --> 00:52:00.400
a question i just have a comment for you um She

00:52:00.400 --> 00:52:02.380
always still likes to pull unless she has her

00:52:02.380 --> 00:52:05.739
prong collar on. Okay. Um, but I did order another

00:52:05.739 --> 00:52:08.800
collar that has like, it is a harness collar,

00:52:09.059 --> 00:52:12.860
but it has the, the, the, um, hook at the front

00:52:12.860 --> 00:52:15.019
of it. Okay. So it says when they, when they

00:52:15.019 --> 00:52:17.179
go forward, since at that point they're going

00:52:17.179 --> 00:52:19.760
to be pulling on that and it, it's supposed,

00:52:19.820 --> 00:52:21.840
it's supposed to mimic what you've taught, how

00:52:21.840 --> 00:52:25.059
they to turn around and come back. So I'll let

00:52:25.059 --> 00:52:27.699
you know how it works. I gotcha. I gotcha. So

00:52:27.699 --> 00:52:31.320
yeah, a, Oh, here. I don't know why I've still

00:52:31.320 --> 00:52:35.340
got this thing going here. My bad. Missed the

00:52:35.340 --> 00:52:41.380
mute button there on the music. So with Chinoa,

00:52:41.420 --> 00:52:45.719
the harness that has the little loop in the front,

00:52:45.820 --> 00:52:50.050
right? When a dog. pulls the concept is that

00:52:50.050 --> 00:52:53.909
the leash kind of naturally redirects them uh

00:52:53.909 --> 00:52:56.929
back left or right and and kind of turns them

00:52:56.929 --> 00:52:59.929
around in order for them to pull against it it

00:52:59.929 --> 00:53:03.269
automatically redirects their body weight and

00:53:03.269 --> 00:53:06.449
so that is that is the concept there um with

00:53:06.449 --> 00:53:10.650
chinoa uh being the little bulldog that she is

00:53:10.650 --> 00:53:13.570
uh we're always going to deal with that like

00:53:13.570 --> 00:53:18.559
headstrong desire to lead um the interaction

00:53:18.559 --> 00:53:23.820
and so what i will recommend is um especially

00:53:23.820 --> 00:53:26.139
as you're waiting for that harness to get here

00:53:26.139 --> 00:53:31.320
because i am uh you know every dog is different

00:53:31.320 --> 00:53:34.519
so you're going to have to experiment and see

00:53:35.159 --> 00:53:37.820
If that works, then by all means, go for it.

00:53:37.900 --> 00:53:40.300
But right now, while you're waiting for that,

00:53:40.400 --> 00:53:44.980
I would love for you to try to work through not

00:53:44.980 --> 00:53:50.920
moving forward if she is in front of you. So

00:53:50.920 --> 00:53:55.380
at the point where she tries to, and also we

00:53:55.380 --> 00:53:59.679
can do a refresher lesson on this, right? All

00:53:59.679 --> 00:54:02.119
of our clients that have been through any of

00:54:02.119 --> 00:54:04.320
our programs, we do free refresher lessons for

00:54:04.320 --> 00:54:09.059
life for their dogs because we really want to

00:54:09.059 --> 00:54:13.519
commit to the success of their dogs. So for Chenoa,

00:54:13.579 --> 00:54:19.960
if she forges ahead, at the point where her tail

00:54:19.960 --> 00:54:23.280
or the base of her tail goes ahead of your leg,

00:54:23.400 --> 00:54:26.860
that's usually for pet dogs our threshold, that

00:54:26.860 --> 00:54:33.099
moment, No more forward progress is made because

00:54:33.099 --> 00:54:37.199
at that point she is now leading that interaction.

00:54:37.460 --> 00:54:41.760
So you turn the pressure on, you give her no,

00:54:42.000 --> 00:54:47.380
give her heel, move her back into position. And

00:54:47.380 --> 00:54:50.260
at that point, once she is in position, you allow

00:54:50.260 --> 00:54:54.199
the walk to continue. That is going to be the.

00:54:54.489 --> 00:54:58.250
Best way to eliminate that pulling. Because the

00:54:58.250 --> 00:55:02.869
tricky thing with pulling is that even if it's

00:55:02.869 --> 00:55:09.769
eliminated initially, it's kind of a gradual,

00:55:10.010 --> 00:55:14.809
it's like reshaping a beach, right? Every wave

00:55:14.809 --> 00:55:18.250
that comes in is going to take a little bit of

00:55:18.250 --> 00:55:23.840
sand out. So every time she's allowed to get

00:55:23.840 --> 00:55:27.980
in front of you and continue moving forward,

00:55:28.119 --> 00:55:32.820
she's going to find a little more confidence

00:55:32.820 --> 00:55:37.699
in that position. And as that grows and grows

00:55:37.699 --> 00:55:40.440
and grows, she feels better and better and better

00:55:40.440 --> 00:55:45.539
about it and will continue to do it because it

00:55:45.539 --> 00:55:50.900
was. allowed initially but it might not have

00:55:50.900 --> 00:55:52.900
been something you were really against right

00:55:52.900 --> 00:55:55.619
because cool she's not really pulling but she's

00:55:55.619 --> 00:55:57.739
just walking a little in front of me ah that's

00:55:57.739 --> 00:56:02.199
okay i'm fine with that well it just slowly kind

00:56:02.199 --> 00:56:06.519
of unravels the thread and then eventually she's

00:56:06.519 --> 00:56:10.340
pulling again and now we're like oops well the

00:56:10.340 --> 00:56:14.579
best way to stop that is to change your direction

00:56:14.579 --> 00:56:18.119
change your direction quickly change it very

00:56:18.119 --> 00:56:22.099
confidently, and then also not allow forward

00:56:22.099 --> 00:56:25.659
progress or not allow her to go in the direction

00:56:25.659 --> 00:56:30.420
she wants when she's ahead of you. Does that

00:56:30.420 --> 00:56:35.199
help a little bit? Yes, it does. I've been sick,

00:56:35.219 --> 00:56:38.219
so she hasn't been out a walk for a couple months.

00:56:38.519 --> 00:56:42.980
Oh, I gotcha, I gotcha. There's no judgment whatsoever.

00:56:43.610 --> 00:56:47.110
I just want to, I really want to make sure that

00:56:47.110 --> 00:56:50.809
I am bringing you guys as much value as possible.

00:56:51.010 --> 00:56:55.809
And we love Chenoa. There is no part that if

00:56:55.809 --> 00:56:57.690
you're feeling well enough and you would like

00:56:57.690 --> 00:57:00.309
to get a refresher lesson, I would love to come

00:57:00.309 --> 00:57:03.190
out and do that for you guys. I love that. But

00:57:03.190 --> 00:57:05.489
part of the thing is that that's why I love listening

00:57:05.489 --> 00:57:07.170
to these because you're bringing up these topics

00:57:07.170 --> 00:57:10.329
that I've forgotten my training. So it's not

00:57:10.329 --> 00:57:11.949
necessarily that she's forgotten her training.

00:57:12.050 --> 00:57:15.269
I forgot my training, so I need to... Well, we're

00:57:15.269 --> 00:57:17.909
here for you, too. Right, the refreshers are

00:57:17.909 --> 00:57:23.730
for you, technically. Right, right. So we took

00:57:23.730 --> 00:57:25.630
her to the chiropractor today, and there was

00:57:25.630 --> 00:57:28.570
a lot of pulling, and I was trying to get her

00:57:28.570 --> 00:57:31.030
to go back, but then I'm listening to you guys,

00:57:31.030 --> 00:57:33.090
and I'm realizing, well, I didn't do that. I

00:57:33.090 --> 00:57:36.329
didn't do that. I didn't do that. So no wonder

00:57:36.329 --> 00:57:40.139
she just kept pulling. And then, um, cause I,

00:57:40.179 --> 00:57:43.239
I'm, I'm struggling with her too. I was trying

00:57:43.239 --> 00:57:45.780
to get her to be in a place in the chiropractor

00:57:45.780 --> 00:57:48.360
office. Why? Why he worked on my back and she

00:57:48.360 --> 00:57:50.440
kept wanting to get up and move around his office.

00:57:50.619 --> 00:57:53.360
I gotcha. It's a very dog friendly office. Thank

00:57:53.360 --> 00:57:55.820
goodness. But still she was, I want her to be

00:57:55.820 --> 00:57:57.840
in that one spot and she was not wanting to cooperate.

00:57:57.980 --> 00:58:00.460
So yeah, probably refresh will be great. Yeah,

00:58:00.519 --> 00:58:03.659
absolutely. So we'll do that after the holidays.

00:58:05.019 --> 00:58:08.139
chaotic with right yeah the holidays always are

00:58:08.139 --> 00:58:11.579
for for everybody it's uh it's hard to to find

00:58:11.579 --> 00:58:15.699
that like level normalcy uh in the in the holidays

00:58:15.699 --> 00:58:18.500
with family coming in and out and traveling and

00:58:18.500 --> 00:58:21.440
all of that he's got a couple things that we've

00:58:21.440 --> 00:58:23.059
actually been meaning to reach out to you guys

00:58:23.059 --> 00:58:26.019
about but it's just like say with illnesses Just

00:58:26.019 --> 00:58:28.840
busy, but I will get with you. That's the exciting

00:58:28.840 --> 00:58:31.579
thing about puppies though, right? And one of

00:58:31.579 --> 00:58:33.860
the reasons why I think it's so important to

00:58:33.860 --> 00:58:37.079
offer those refresher sessions is because puppies

00:58:37.079 --> 00:58:41.119
are going to act a little bit different than

00:58:41.119 --> 00:58:44.519
they are when they get full grown as adults because

00:58:44.519 --> 00:58:46.199
they're going to think about the world different.

00:58:46.400 --> 00:58:50.119
And so it doesn't mean that she's forgotten,

00:58:50.400 --> 00:58:54.449
but she will. always be just like every dog they

00:58:54.449 --> 00:58:57.309
will be opportunistic and when they're allowed

00:58:57.309 --> 00:59:00.949
to do something they're gonna they're gonna do

00:59:00.949 --> 00:59:03.949
it because they're like oh yeah hey i'm i want

00:59:03.949 --> 00:59:08.829
this so yeah and the the interesting thing the

00:59:08.829 --> 00:59:11.050
dynamics between her and steve has changed a

00:59:11.050 --> 00:59:13.510
bit over the last several months right and you

00:59:13.510 --> 00:59:18.369
have yeah yeah it's been uh there's there's he's

00:59:18.369 --> 00:59:21.480
more tolerant But then she tries to get into

00:59:21.480 --> 00:59:24.960
his space more. We're trying to get her into

00:59:24.960 --> 00:59:29.619
the place where she'd like leave him. But then

00:59:29.619 --> 00:59:31.840
she'll get over there by him. But he's he's like,

00:59:31.840 --> 00:59:34.679
I'll allow you to be by me. Yeah. But but then

00:59:34.679 --> 00:59:36.619
when he's done, he's done. Right. Well, that's

00:59:36.619 --> 00:59:38.699
an interesting change in the dynamic from when

00:59:38.699 --> 00:59:42.219
we first started, where Steve was, you know,

00:59:42.219 --> 00:59:47.239
very. But as she grows, right, she's gaining

00:59:47.239 --> 00:59:49.619
confidence. And that's also what you're going

00:59:49.619 --> 00:59:54.320
to see is that she will create a situation where

00:59:54.320 --> 00:59:57.800
you have to show additional leadership than you

00:59:57.800 --> 01:00:00.280
had to initially because now you have a more

01:00:00.280 --> 01:00:04.380
confident dog. Right. Thank you guys for all

01:00:04.380 --> 01:00:06.949
you do. I really appreciate it. Yeah, no problem.

01:00:07.070 --> 01:00:09.969
Awesome. All right. Does anybody else have any

01:00:09.969 --> 01:00:18.449
questions or shall we wrap it up tonight? All

01:00:18.449 --> 01:00:22.469
right. We will get to wrapping it up here. All

01:00:22.469 --> 01:00:25.889
right. Our listener projects for tonight. Project

01:00:25.889 --> 01:00:30.260
number one. Five minutes of backyard leash pressure.

01:00:30.519 --> 01:00:34.320
So spend five minutes walking small loops in

01:00:34.320 --> 01:00:36.880
the backyard or in the living room. Somewhere

01:00:36.880 --> 01:00:41.480
where the dog is very comfortable, very few distractions.

01:00:42.059 --> 01:00:45.960
Apply gentle pressure when the dog moves off

01:00:45.960 --> 01:00:50.059
course, left, right, forward, backward. And release,

01:00:50.400 --> 01:00:55.480
release the pressure the moment that they yield.

01:00:56.559 --> 01:01:00.480
Mark with yes or mark with free or whatever your

01:01:00.480 --> 01:01:02.760
marker word is when they return to your side

01:01:02.760 --> 01:01:05.500
and then reward them. All right, project number

01:01:05.500 --> 01:01:09.599
two, turn and follow game. So walk in one direction,

01:01:09.699 --> 01:01:17.760
then turn 180 degrees and when, turn 180 degrees

01:01:17.760 --> 01:01:22.199
if your dog forges ahead. So at the point where

01:01:22.199 --> 01:01:24.280
they forge ahead and they get ahead of you, I

01:01:24.280 --> 01:01:27.710
want you to turn 180 degrees, And if the dog

01:01:27.710 --> 01:01:31.449
ends up at the end of the leash, they're going

01:01:31.449 --> 01:01:33.349
to correct themselves. So I don't want you to

01:01:33.349 --> 01:01:37.070
say anything. Say nothing during the turn. Just

01:01:37.070 --> 01:01:41.829
let the leash communication do the work. Mark

01:01:41.829 --> 01:01:45.369
with yes or free or whatever your marker word

01:01:45.369 --> 01:01:49.349
is when the puppy catches up and then follows,

01:01:49.730 --> 01:01:53.340
right? And follows you calmly. Reward the dog

01:01:53.340 --> 01:01:56.019
with a positive marker word when they're right

01:01:56.019 --> 01:01:58.579
there next to you. And if they forge ahead of

01:01:58.579 --> 01:02:01.360
you, do the same thing. Turn 180 degrees silently.

01:02:01.460 --> 01:02:03.840
Just turn around quietly. Walk the other way.

01:02:04.800 --> 01:02:08.420
They're going to correct themselves or they're

01:02:08.420 --> 01:02:10.659
going to see you turn and they're going to follow

01:02:10.659 --> 01:02:13.780
you. And when that happens, mark it, reward it.

01:02:14.539 --> 01:02:17.880
All right. That is all I've got. You got anything

01:02:17.880 --> 01:02:20.920
to add? No, that was a great one. All right,

01:02:20.920 --> 01:02:25.170
guys. So we're going to end it here. This was

01:02:25.170 --> 01:02:29.909
episode 13, all about loose leash walking. So

01:02:29.909 --> 01:02:33.909
ideally next week, we're going to have another

01:02:33.909 --> 01:02:36.929
local trainer with a whole nother dog training

01:02:36.929 --> 01:02:43.750
company on the podcast. And super excited to

01:02:43.750 --> 01:02:47.449
get them on here. It should be Sierra from Summit

01:02:47.449 --> 01:02:51.530
Kennels. Yeah. So. Hopefully you guys can tune

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in for that. It should be a little different

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dynamic with a couple of an extra trainer. Thank

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