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Welcome to Pawprint Academy, your blueprint to

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raising better dogs. My name is Ryan, and I'll

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be your host for this journey. I've got my trusty

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co -host here, Brianna. Hello. And together,

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we're bringing you real -world training insights

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built on leadership, structure, and proven methods.

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We record this podcast with live clients on the

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line in one take with live, unscripted questions

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and answers. At the end of the day, this podcast

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is a lot more than just teaching your dog to

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sit or stay. creating calmness, and becoming

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the kind of leader your dog truly needs. We do

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that with our three pillar method of trust, obey,

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and perform. Together, we'll show you how these

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three pillars shape every step of training. Thanks

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for being here. Let's get started. All right,

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episode nine, crate training, building security

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and independence. So when we're talking about

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crate training, a lot of people tune out. They

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tune out real quick because they're like, oh,

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well, I am either not interested in a crate or

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my dog's too big for a crate or my dog's too

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old for a crate. And just going to call it what

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it is. None of those things are true. to pawprint

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academy and tonight we're talking about crate

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training we're talking about the so this kind

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of builds on last week's episode last week's

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episode was on potty training and we talked a

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lot about how we're going to use the crate to

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help with potty training well that goes so much

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further than that right because we can use the

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crate to do all sorts of things and one of the

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biggest reasons why we use crates is to deal

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with just anxiety. And a lot of owners see the

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crate as being the center of their dog's anxiety.

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That has not been my experience. And so tonight

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we're going to bring you a bunch of examples

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and some stories and things, and we're going

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to talk through crate training. As we do this,

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we talked about it on the intro, but we've got

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live clients on the line and I've got the questions

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open here. Just a second. Yep. So I've got the

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questions open. So as you guys think of questions,

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please jot them down, send them over so I can

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monitor that as we're going through this. And

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we'll try to. Answer them as we go. That seems

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to help some of this. And then at the end, we'll

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open it up to a live Q &A for all of your questions

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and concerns and things related to what we're

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talking about. And even if you've got a random

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other question, we can deal with it. All right.

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So as we get into your core idea, the crate is

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not punishment. Right. I cannot say that loud

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enough. I cannot make this a big enough exclamation

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point. So the crate cannot be punishment. And

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when I say it cannot be, I mean like when you're

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trying to train your dog and people are calling

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me asking about, hey, how do I do this? You cannot

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afford to let the crate become a punishment.

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And right off the bat, I haven't even gotten

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through the entire core idea, but that's like

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just the first sentence that I wrote down, right?

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And it's like, we got to talk about that. No

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matter what you do and no matter what you hear

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me talk about tonight, if you don't learn anything

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else, circle back to that one. The crate cannot

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be a punishment. You cannot use the crate to

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punish. Your dog. Yep. Because if you do that,

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none of this other stuff that we're going to

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talk about is going to work. Yeah. All right.

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So back to the core idea for the entire podcast

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episode. The crate is not punishment. It is a

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tool that creates safety, structure, and independence.

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When introduced properly, it becomes one of the

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most valuable foundations in our. Training regimen.

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Yeah. All right. So that's a little bit to unpack.

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So let's kind of just break it down. So number

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one, dogs are den animals by nature. They, you

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know, grew up that way, evolved that way, if

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that's what you believe, whatever you want to

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call it. Dogs have been den creatures in the

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past. And the crate. provides a safe space for

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them to thrive for them to decompress for them

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to feel protected for them to feel uh confident

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yep all of these things are attributes that we

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want our dogs to feel so um um let's see here

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i'm gonna refer back to my notes um first thing

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uh that that kind of supports that point so the

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crate creates a calm environment away from overstimulation

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so let's talk about that for a second because

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we're all of this is going to circle back to

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that one major point right the crate's not punishment

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and it's a tool that creates safety structure

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and independence so when we are talking about

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that what we're talking about is creating a space

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where your dog can just go and they can see what's

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going on they can kind of feel like they're part

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of it they're informed they're experiencing the

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things that the family is experiencing but they're

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not necessarily in the middle of it yeah because

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when they're in the middle of it that's where

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you get overstimulation and we say this part

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all the time but an excited dog is not the same

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thing as a happy dog A happy dog is not the same

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thing as an overstimulated dog. And excitement

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and overstimulation has a razor thin line between

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it. Yeah. And you can get right up to the edge

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of excited and everything can be totally fine.

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And as soon as just the one little paw pad. goes

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past that line and you're on the overstimulation

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side, your dog's going to behave differently

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and they're going to make different choices in

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that state of mind. So we can use a crate to

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control some of that overstimulation. Right.

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And I think when people mistakenly see it as

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is like, Oh, it's a cage that I'm putting my

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dog in. Right. Cause there's like, Oh yeah, for

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sure. Stories of like, you know, Crazy things

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where people leave their dogs in crates for like

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days, right? That's not what we're talking about.

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Not what we're talking about at all. I want people

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to reframe their mindset when they look at a

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crate and think of it as like a bedroom, right?

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Because where do you go when you're exhausted

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and you're like tapped out for the day and you

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just want to relax and it's your personal like

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space that you get to go into and you're like,

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yep. And now it's time to relax. That's why people

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sometimes don't put TVs in their bedroom, right?

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Because it's a space meant for sleeping and for

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relaxing. And that's what the crate needs to

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kind of be looked at as. Right, because it offers

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a predictable place that reduces anxiety when

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the dog is alone. Now, when you never leave your

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dog alone, Like remember, remember, no matter

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what, remember this, your dog only knows what

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you taught them. If you got your dog, which a

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lot of people do. And so this, this isn't a hundred

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percent across the board, but most owners that

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we deal with get their dogs when they're very,

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very young. Usually that eight -week time frame

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is about the earliest that you can take them

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home from a breeder and get them their first

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shots and all of these things. So eight, nine,

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ten weeks old, your dog barely knows how to walk.

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It learns everything that it knows from you.

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Because unless you've got another dog in the

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house that it's learning from, or unless you...

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you know, brought its mother dog with it. Like

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it's not learning from those things. It's learning

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from you and it's patterning from you. So if

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we never take the time to teach our dogs to calm

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down and we never teach our dogs that it's okay

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to be away from us, when are they going to learn

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it? Right. So a lot of times, and we saw this,

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we saw this across the entire country during

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the COVID times where. There was this huge, a

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second pandemic, right? Not the COVID one, but

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the other one for on the dog space. Excuse me.

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On the dog space, it was about these anxious

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and anxiety riddled dogs that like super separation

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anxiety because everyone was home. Right. All

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the time. And your dog was never away from you.

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Right. And even if you didn't have a dog when

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COVID hit, you got a dog because you were home

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by yourself. Huge influx of dogs. Yeah. Huge

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influx. And that was something we saw across

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the entire country on the demographics. So this

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concept of you need to leave your dog alone.

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sometimes rubs people the wrong way and they're

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like, well, what do you, what do you mean I need

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to leave it alone? Like I got the dog to be a

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companion for me. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah. I

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totally understand. But is there ever a time

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where you're going to go somewhere where you

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can't take the dog? Right. Right. We're talking

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about regular dogs, usually not service dogs.

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You go to a movie at a movie theater, the dog,

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where, where's the dog even going to go? Like

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you can't, you can't take a dog everywhere. So.

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There are places where you are not going to take

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your dog. And when you do leave, inevitably,

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then what? And not only that, but let's make

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a different argument. Do you think that your

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dog is ever going to get sick or hurt in their

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entire life? At some point, it's highly likely

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they're probably going to have to go to a vet.

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they ever have a surgical procedure or they hurt

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themselves somehow or whatever, it's highly likely

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that a vet is going to need to put them in a

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crate or a kennel, even just temporarily. Oh,

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yeah. So there's a high, high likelihood that

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at some point you're going to need to control

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the space that a dog is allowed to be in. And

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when that happens, you've not really prepared

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your dog if you're not working on this concept

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of crate training. So that's the dog trainer

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side. Now, let's make this a little less bleak

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because we're both completely supportive of you

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taking your dogs everywhere where they can go.

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So there's no problem with that. There's no issue

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with that. But I think that we're going to present

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a couple of other concepts in here that I think

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will apply to more than just crate training.

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Because if you think about the crate as just

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the crate, I think you may miss out on this second

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level to this, which is... Let me see how I can

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say this. It is selective confinement. Confinement

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and really forced confinement between a human

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and the dog can be an immense builder of one,

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your relationship, and two, the most highly sought

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after factor in dog training. And that is anticipation.

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When we train a dog, the dogs that learn fastest

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are the dogs where we can help to increase their

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anticipation. Because when you increase anticipation,

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suddenly you've got a dog that is dialed in and

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ready. They are excited to do something. And

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now you have a tool that is a huge, huge step

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up that you can use to train your dog to do anything.

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Yeah. So and we're going to bring up a whole

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bunch of other reasons here as we go. But right

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off the bat, confinement is not a punishment.

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Confinement is a tool and it's a tool that builds

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your relationship. It does not break it down.

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By you controlling the space of the house and

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teaching a dog that sometimes that is their place

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of existence is like, well, it's time for you

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to go into your crate. That is not a zero -sum

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game where you're the winner and they're the

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loser. You both can win here. Right. So. I have

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like so many things to say. I know. I know. I'm

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really trying to stay in order. Yeah. I'm trying

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not to say anything. There's really like a hundred

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good reasons why you should invest the time to

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teach your dog to take its own time in a crate

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or a kennel. Just take a nap. Just take a nap.

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Just take a nap. All right. So the next one that

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I've got written down though is that it helps

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puppies and adult So if you, if your dog looks

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to you for every bit of confidence in its life,

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the moment that you are away from it, it will

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be a nervous wreck. It will be an anxious mess.

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Yep. And we see that usually that's when we get

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the call and we're like, well, We're like, usually

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a client calls me on the phone and they're like,

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hey, I've got a dog that is destroying my house

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when I'm gone. Or I've got a dog that is barking

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incessantly every time I leave. But as soon as

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I come back, they're fine. Both of those issues

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circle back to the fact that that is not a confident

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dog. And they're anxious and they're anxiety

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ridden and they're they're trying to find their

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own confidence. One things in a dog's mouth typically

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increases their like self soothing. Right. They

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by them having their mouth around something they

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feel more in control and stronger in that moment.

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Right. So that's usually how we. What is it for

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babies when they. What is the, oh my gosh, it's

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been so long. I'm a dog expert, not a baby expert.

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I don't know. Right, but that is exactly, I always

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relate it back to like kids and babies, I feel

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like, because it's something a lot of people

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can relate back to at some point. Somebody's

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interactive. Right, I just can't help you with

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this one. I'm not sure what you're talking about.

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Self -soothing. So I'll keep going. If you think

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of it, you jump in. So on the dogs, right, the

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chewing. When a dog has something in their mouth,

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a lot of times they feel a little more in control

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of that situation. And so that's where that soothing

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comes from. So oftentimes when you have a dog

00:18:05.509 --> 00:18:10.710
that chews things when you leave or when you're

00:18:10.710 --> 00:18:13.950
not there to watch them, it's not that they're

00:18:13.950 --> 00:18:17.329
trying to be ornery. It's just that they found

00:18:17.329 --> 00:18:22.029
soothing in the concept of having something in

00:18:22.029 --> 00:18:24.289
their mouth. And then it kind of gets out of

00:18:24.289 --> 00:18:25.970
control and then they're like, oh, wow, I ate

00:18:25.970 --> 00:18:28.950
the entire pillow and the pieces are all over

00:18:28.950 --> 00:18:31.569
the place. And then you see the video pop up

00:18:31.569 --> 00:18:36.829
on Facebook later. The other side of it is the

00:18:36.829 --> 00:18:40.630
anxious dog that is now, as soon as their owners

00:18:40.630 --> 00:18:44.849
leave, has never had an issue with like barking

00:18:44.849 --> 00:18:47.750
at the windows and scratching at the doors and

00:18:47.750 --> 00:18:50.920
trying to get out. But suddenly. A dog walks

00:18:50.920 --> 00:18:55.180
by and the dog goes crazy because they're behind

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a barrier and they are longing for that confidence

00:19:02.599 --> 00:19:11.460
complex. And they can get that by reacting to

00:19:11.460 --> 00:19:13.460
the external triggers, which is the dog walking

00:19:13.460 --> 00:19:17.460
by. They get a huge internal flush of dopamine

00:19:17.460 --> 00:19:22.170
and other neurotransmitters increase their self

00:19:22.170 --> 00:19:25.710
-gratifying behavior by continuing down that

00:19:25.710 --> 00:19:29.230
process and ramping up. And all of that stems

00:19:29.230 --> 00:19:32.869
from the concept that the dog wasn't really confident

00:19:32.869 --> 00:19:36.869
enough to just let a dog encroach on their area

00:19:36.869 --> 00:19:40.809
or let another person, a UPS guy or a mailman

00:19:40.809 --> 00:19:43.130
or something like that, come up to the house.

00:19:49.440 --> 00:19:54.380
they kind of shed light on your dog's, I guess,

00:19:54.440 --> 00:19:59.079
thought process. Yeah. I'm sorry. You were looking

00:19:59.079 --> 00:20:02.700
at me like I was missing a major point here.

00:20:02.960 --> 00:20:07.579
No. All right. So how, we kind of alluded to

00:20:07.579 --> 00:20:12.240
it, but how would you explain to a client that

00:20:12.240 --> 00:20:16.180
crates are comforting and they're not cruel?

00:20:17.049 --> 00:20:20.309
I think my original analogy of like comparing

00:20:20.309 --> 00:20:23.190
it to a bedroom and not a cage, right? It's something

00:20:23.190 --> 00:20:26.730
natural for a dog to go in and relax. And yeah,

00:20:26.769 --> 00:20:29.589
it is forced relaxation, but also it comes back

00:20:29.589 --> 00:20:33.329
down to when you think of like a baby and you

00:20:33.329 --> 00:20:36.529
have them out and exposed in a stimulating environment,

00:20:36.769 --> 00:20:38.869
they're not going to usually fall asleep. They

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start crying. They start whining. They start

00:20:41.210 --> 00:20:44.589
doing things to express that they're tired, but

00:20:44.589 --> 00:20:47.819
they can't. take a nap they can't turn off they

00:20:47.819 --> 00:20:50.839
can't get away from everything that's going on

00:20:50.839 --> 00:20:54.500
it's like a whole fear of missing out thing um

00:20:54.500 --> 00:20:58.519
it's the same way with a dog so if you if you

00:20:58.519 --> 00:21:00.720
take the baby put them in a crib they're like

00:21:00.720 --> 00:21:02.319
okay well i'm just gonna go to sleep now there's

00:21:02.319 --> 00:21:05.440
nothing going on same thing with a dog you take

00:21:05.440 --> 00:21:07.259
them out of that environment you go hey we're

00:21:07.259 --> 00:21:08.940
gonna go in here we're gonna take a nap in your

00:21:08.940 --> 00:21:13.720
room yeah got it that's that's the only thing

00:21:13.720 --> 00:21:18.359
that there is to do And that doesn't mean, excuse

00:21:18.359 --> 00:21:21.079
me, that doesn't mean that if you go to leave,

00:21:21.140 --> 00:21:23.160
you can't give your dog like a bone or something

00:21:23.160 --> 00:21:25.339
to chew on or something to enjoy for a little

00:21:25.339 --> 00:21:29.779
bit. But it is time for them to relax when you're

00:21:29.779 --> 00:21:32.819
home and you give them kennel time. Yeah. So

00:21:32.819 --> 00:21:37.019
I like to explain it or explain a concept that

00:21:37.019 --> 00:21:42.079
there's very, very few dogs. that are mentally

00:21:42.079 --> 00:21:45.359
prepared to make as many decisions as we typically

00:21:45.359 --> 00:21:52.539
put on them or in front of them on a daily basis.

00:21:52.940 --> 00:21:57.380
So the very, very confident dogs that are or

00:21:57.380 --> 00:22:01.480
would be the natural alpha leader of the pack,

00:22:01.799 --> 00:22:06.940
those are dogs that might be a little more prepared

00:22:06.940 --> 00:22:12.750
to make... some decisions in the household but

00:22:12.750 --> 00:22:17.170
the but most dogs they're not prepared to do

00:22:17.170 --> 00:22:21.309
that and they just want to follow most dogs are

00:22:21.309 --> 00:22:25.309
really really happy just following a confident

00:22:25.309 --> 00:22:31.170
leader they don't want to be that the concept

00:22:31.170 --> 00:22:36.130
of every dog should get to choose what toys they

00:22:36.130 --> 00:22:38.730
play with or choose what they get to do today

00:22:38.730 --> 00:22:41.829
or choose what they're going to eat today those

00:22:41.829 --> 00:22:45.490
are thoughts and processes and emotions that

00:22:45.490 --> 00:22:49.869
we value as humans and we put them on the dog

00:22:49.869 --> 00:22:54.930
and it's not actually accurate because the dog

00:22:54.930 --> 00:23:00.069
doesn't want to choose all of those things and

00:23:00.069 --> 00:23:04.980
when they have to it oftentimes results in some

00:23:04.980 --> 00:23:09.660
anxiety. So the way that we can avoid that is

00:23:09.660 --> 00:23:14.220
by making decisions that are educated because

00:23:14.220 --> 00:23:17.380
we know our dogs, but making decisions for them

00:23:17.380 --> 00:23:22.000
and guiding them, leading them, showing them

00:23:22.000 --> 00:23:25.920
what is expected. And when the dog then follows,

00:23:26.910 --> 00:23:30.470
Their anxiety goes down because you're leading

00:23:30.470 --> 00:23:33.369
from the front and you're explaining and showing

00:23:33.369 --> 00:23:36.890
and giving clear expectations. And then the dog's

00:23:36.890 --> 00:23:39.369
able to follow that and go, I'm doing the right

00:23:39.369 --> 00:23:45.829
thing. And that almost is, I'm not going to say

00:23:45.829 --> 00:23:49.289
it's the only thing, but it is a huge, huge percentage,

00:23:49.470 --> 00:23:53.710
a huge piece of the pie that when a dog can confidently.

00:23:55.319 --> 00:23:59.160
operate within your expectations and they know

00:23:59.160 --> 00:24:01.700
that they're doing the right thing you see a

00:24:01.700 --> 00:24:08.880
ton of anxiety go away in dogs so if that is

00:24:08.880 --> 00:24:11.500
true which all of those things that i just explained

00:24:11.500 --> 00:24:20.019
then controlling what the dog gets into and controlling

00:24:20.019 --> 00:24:23.180
and keeping the dog from making more of those

00:24:23.180 --> 00:24:27.170
decisions that are made without your supervision

00:24:27.170 --> 00:24:31.650
is really, really important. We want to limit

00:24:31.650 --> 00:24:36.009
as much of those issues as possible. And so anytime

00:24:36.009 --> 00:24:39.630
that we can't supervise the dog, I'm going to

00:24:39.630 --> 00:24:42.250
highly recommend that the dog goes in their crate.

00:24:42.369 --> 00:24:46.670
It's not a punishment. It's an opportunity. Think

00:24:46.670 --> 00:24:50.910
of it as a proactive opportunity for you to not

00:24:50.910 --> 00:24:56.980
clash with your dog. If they go and make a silly

00:24:56.980 --> 00:25:00.359
mistake because they weren't mentally prepared

00:25:00.359 --> 00:25:03.079
to make the right decision or they didn't have

00:25:03.079 --> 00:25:06.339
the like faculty to think about this and pick

00:25:06.339 --> 00:25:09.160
the right thing. Now you're in a position where

00:25:09.160 --> 00:25:11.359
now you have to correct them and you'd be like,

00:25:11.420 --> 00:25:14.079
I can't believe you just ate that or I can't

00:25:14.079 --> 00:25:16.000
believe you just pooped on the floor or whatever

00:25:16.000 --> 00:25:19.059
it was. But if we would have just controlled

00:25:19.059 --> 00:25:21.869
that, if you just would have stepped up. As the

00:25:21.869 --> 00:25:27.529
leader of that pack and been like, I can't predict.

00:25:27.670 --> 00:25:31.650
I can't predict with a high degree of certainty

00:25:31.650 --> 00:25:34.869
that you're going to make a good choice. So I'm

00:25:34.869 --> 00:25:36.990
going to place you in your kennel or your crate.

00:25:37.970 --> 00:25:42.250
And then I'm going to come back and I'm going

00:25:42.250 --> 00:25:43.809
to let you out. We're going to be best friends.

00:25:44.910 --> 00:25:51.589
Without all of that. Like clash. I hope that

00:25:51.589 --> 00:25:55.250
that makes sense. That's how I typically the

00:25:55.250 --> 00:25:57.549
outline of, of how I try to explain it. Yeah.

00:25:57.769 --> 00:26:01.990
It just helps you to avoid so much. Like, like

00:26:01.990 --> 00:26:05.769
I'm really struggling for the right word. There's

00:26:05.769 --> 00:26:07.730
usually a word I like to use and it's just the,

00:26:07.849 --> 00:26:12.990
the concept of just clashing with your dog. And

00:26:12.990 --> 00:26:14.349
you're staring at me. You're not helping me.

00:26:14.369 --> 00:26:17.089
I can't think of the word that's in your brain

00:26:17.089 --> 00:26:19.130
either. I don't know. It's not coming to me.

00:26:19.170 --> 00:26:22.049
Well, neither one of us is bad on a thousand

00:26:22.049 --> 00:26:23.829
on guessing what the other one was trying to

00:26:23.829 --> 00:26:29.769
say. Share a story of a dog whose anxiety improved

00:26:29.769 --> 00:26:34.509
through crate training. Definitely Gabe. Gabe.

00:26:34.589 --> 00:26:39.230
So her dog, Mr. Gabe, was the most, the world's

00:26:39.230 --> 00:26:43.799
highest. Level anxiety talk. The worst one that

00:26:43.799 --> 00:26:46.660
I've ever, ever gotten to work with. Still wins

00:26:46.660 --> 00:26:49.259
at a word someday. Still wins. Yeah. He's crazy.

00:26:49.500 --> 00:26:52.059
Yeah. But yeah, never really went in a kennel

00:26:52.059 --> 00:26:55.200
after he was rescued out of the shelter. Kind

00:26:55.200 --> 00:26:59.309
of just like stayed in a room or like. Slept

00:26:59.309 --> 00:27:01.529
in his little like dog bed all day, but mostly

00:27:01.529 --> 00:27:04.849
in like the spare bedroom. Like could not walk

00:27:04.849 --> 00:27:08.069
through doorways, could not go outside, would

00:27:08.069 --> 00:27:12.089
shake like a leaf. If you know anything, if you

00:27:12.089 --> 00:27:15.609
walk towards him, he would just pee on the floor.

00:27:16.509 --> 00:27:18.829
Forget some of these things. Right. It's been

00:27:18.829 --> 00:27:21.109
a little while. I know. Right. And when I first

00:27:21.109 --> 00:27:23.690
got him, actually, he was a couch dog. I brought

00:27:23.690 --> 00:27:25.549
him home and he immediately jumped on the couch

00:27:25.549 --> 00:27:28.140
and I was like, oh, well. I don't know what to

00:27:28.140 --> 00:27:30.279
do with that. Never had a couch dog before. Usually

00:27:30.279 --> 00:27:32.299
they just like, I've always taught dogs like

00:27:32.299 --> 00:27:33.920
you don't just don't, you don't get on the couch.

00:27:33.960 --> 00:27:36.359
And most of the time it's not a problem. My old,

00:27:36.359 --> 00:27:40.000
my last dog before Gabe used to never get on

00:27:40.000 --> 00:27:42.000
the couch unless I left. And then I'd come home

00:27:42.000 --> 00:27:44.119
and his two back legs were still on the couch

00:27:44.119 --> 00:27:46.380
as he was stretching off of it. And I was like,

00:27:46.500 --> 00:27:49.759
okay, cool. But he always respected the fact

00:27:49.759 --> 00:27:52.940
that he wouldn't get on it if I was home. So

00:27:52.940 --> 00:27:55.920
Gabe definitely was like, I'm going to sleep

00:27:55.920 --> 00:27:58.869
on this couch. I got a new couch, moved it to

00:27:58.869 --> 00:28:00.750
a different wall. He never touched the couch

00:28:00.750 --> 00:28:03.589
again. He was like, this is the worst couch.

00:28:03.609 --> 00:28:06.150
Yeah, the worst couch. He hated it. It was so

00:28:06.150 --> 00:28:08.250
different. He was like, I'm never going to touch

00:28:08.250 --> 00:28:13.250
it. And then we introduced Crate, and he took

00:28:13.250 --> 00:28:17.470
a long time to adapt to it. I remember I put

00:28:17.470 --> 00:28:22.289
a bowl of food in there for like two days, and

00:28:22.289 --> 00:28:25.170
he was like, I'm not going to touch that. I don't

00:28:25.170 --> 00:28:27.599
need it. And I was like, he's going to get hungry.

00:28:27.759 --> 00:28:30.799
He's got to get it. And sure enough, he did.

00:28:31.019 --> 00:28:34.319
But he could stretch so far. He's like a spaghetti

00:28:34.319 --> 00:28:38.819
noodle. He could stretch so far that he didn't

00:28:38.819 --> 00:28:40.380
even have to get all the way in the crate to

00:28:40.380 --> 00:28:45.359
get the food. So he got it. But I think the day

00:28:45.359 --> 00:28:48.019
that he realized that you could close the door

00:28:48.019 --> 00:28:51.609
and nothing could touch him. It was like 100%.

00:28:51.609 --> 00:28:53.789
He was like, this is my house. I live here now.

00:28:53.869 --> 00:28:56.509
Put me in any kind of box with a door and I love

00:28:56.509 --> 00:29:00.470
it. And fast forward now. Right. It's not just

00:29:00.470 --> 00:29:07.150
the crate, right? He goes in any. We have, we've

00:29:07.150 --> 00:29:09.549
got metal crates. We've got big four by four,

00:29:09.589 --> 00:29:14.470
like four foot by four foot wire, like kennel

00:29:14.470 --> 00:29:18.400
setups. We've got. We've got travel kennels.

00:29:18.420 --> 00:29:22.000
We have big ones, small ones. He goes in all

00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:25.880
of them. He jumps to second and third story stacked

00:29:25.880 --> 00:29:31.859
crates. He does. Right. He loves those. And he

00:29:31.859 --> 00:29:36.940
goes in them even like if he hears a noise or

00:29:36.940 --> 00:29:39.000
there's something that he is worried about or

00:29:39.000 --> 00:29:40.519
something he's scared of. He's like, which door

00:29:40.519 --> 00:29:42.440
is open? Instead of him. Right. He will look

00:29:42.440 --> 00:29:45.640
for one of the kennels to just go into. Yeah.

00:29:45.960 --> 00:29:48.480
And he'll just lay down and chill. He's like,

00:29:48.539 --> 00:29:52.140
yep, I'm good in here. Because it's never, ever

00:29:52.140 --> 00:29:55.559
been a punishment. It's always been safe. It's

00:29:55.559 --> 00:29:58.359
always been, hey, nothing has ever gotten me

00:29:58.359 --> 00:30:01.279
in here. And so it's become something that he

00:30:01.279 --> 00:30:06.980
relies on to deal with his own anxiety. Common

00:30:06.980 --> 00:30:10.440
misconceptions owners have about crate use. The

00:30:10.440 --> 00:30:12.039
punishment thing. That's the biggest thing for

00:30:12.039 --> 00:30:15.910
me. The punishment or... The concept that, oh,

00:30:15.930 --> 00:30:19.809
well, but the dog's going to be sad because like,

00:30:19.890 --> 00:30:23.029
I don't want, I wouldn't want to be stuck in

00:30:23.029 --> 00:30:27.250
the crate. So I don't want to make my dog go

00:30:27.250 --> 00:30:29.710
in there. Right. And so it's also like the fact

00:30:29.710 --> 00:30:31.430
that when the dog gets in there, like they're

00:30:31.430 --> 00:30:33.529
going to whine. Right. But that doesn't last

00:30:33.529 --> 00:30:35.930
forever. And if you let it out because it whined,

00:30:35.930 --> 00:30:40.210
he or she, I say it because I don't know. But

00:30:40.210 --> 00:30:43.809
if you do it because they whine. Right. They

00:30:43.809 --> 00:30:47.089
will whine every time because you're going to

00:30:47.089 --> 00:30:48.829
let them out. Because you taught that to them.

00:30:48.890 --> 00:30:52.789
Right. And so it's an entire process, kennel

00:30:52.789 --> 00:30:54.789
training, right? Yeah. Yeah, you might have to

00:30:54.789 --> 00:30:57.710
put on some noise -canceling headphones. Right.

00:30:57.750 --> 00:30:59.890
I mean, we've got... There's no shortcut to this

00:30:59.890 --> 00:31:02.109
either. Right. There's really not. We've had

00:31:02.109 --> 00:31:04.430
a dog that... We do this over and over and over.

00:31:04.609 --> 00:31:07.430
...has screamed for like three, four days in

00:31:07.430 --> 00:31:09.269
a row going in and out of the kennel. And it's

00:31:09.269 --> 00:31:10.690
like, I don't want to be in here. I don't want

00:31:10.690 --> 00:31:13.630
to be in here. Cool. Yeah. But... you have to

00:31:13.630 --> 00:31:17.410
right there's always like a moment where an owner

00:31:17.410 --> 00:31:21.150
needs a kennel whether they will admit that they

00:31:21.150 --> 00:31:24.430
need the kennel or not but they will need a kennel

00:31:24.430 --> 00:31:29.690
and their dog will not be used to that yeah absolutely

00:31:29.690 --> 00:31:38.809
um all right so let's see here right my brain

00:31:38.809 --> 00:31:40.730
has been going down different rabbit holes here

00:31:40.730 --> 00:31:45.069
um Crates as management and leadership tools.

00:31:45.289 --> 00:31:51.470
So the crate really sets a boundary and it prevents

00:31:51.470 --> 00:31:55.890
bad habits from developing. So this is what we

00:31:55.890 --> 00:31:57.750
were kind of talking about on the last episode

00:31:57.750 --> 00:32:01.410
of like the triangle. And by crate training,

00:32:01.630 --> 00:32:05.849
you prevent the bad habit of dog peeing on the

00:32:05.849 --> 00:32:10.809
floor or dog pooping around the house. By confining

00:32:10.809 --> 00:32:15.299
the dog, and then creating this environment where

00:32:15.299 --> 00:32:19.279
the dog doesn't want to soil their own space,

00:32:19.539 --> 00:32:27.880
they will be less likely to not go outside, to

00:32:27.880 --> 00:32:31.880
go to the bathroom somewhere else, right? Including

00:32:31.880 --> 00:32:34.720
in their crate, as long as we don't make it too

00:32:34.720 --> 00:32:38.279
big. But those specifics we already covered last

00:32:38.279 --> 00:32:43.359
week, so I'm going to try to stay on track. I

00:32:43.359 --> 00:32:48.779
talked about already, I talked about how by confining

00:32:48.779 --> 00:32:51.660
your dog and using a crate, a lot of times you

00:32:51.660 --> 00:32:55.240
can just avoid those crazy moments where you're

00:32:55.240 --> 00:33:00.500
like, oh my gosh, why did you do this? Whatever

00:33:00.500 --> 00:33:03.460
that is, whatever that looks like, I've heard

00:33:03.460 --> 00:33:08.779
a lot of them. When that happens, inevitably,

00:33:08.920 --> 00:33:15.700
my question to owners is, why were they out?

00:33:15.920 --> 00:33:20.960
Why were they left out? And almost always, it's

00:33:20.960 --> 00:33:24.380
rarely, well, because I was going to be gone

00:33:24.380 --> 00:33:28.799
for 12 hours in a row. That's almost never what

00:33:28.799 --> 00:33:31.539
I hear. Usually it's like, well, they've never

00:33:31.539 --> 00:33:37.539
done it before. Or, well, I just feel bad putting

00:33:37.539 --> 00:33:43.430
them in there. Or, well, I guess I just, I didn't

00:33:43.430 --> 00:33:46.549
think that this would happen. All of those things

00:33:46.549 --> 00:33:49.369
kind of revolve around the same concept, which

00:33:49.369 --> 00:33:54.230
is we're really thinking about the crate like

00:33:54.230 --> 00:33:57.569
you would think about the crate, but you're not

00:33:57.569 --> 00:34:02.049
a dog. Yeah. And so we've really got to focus

00:34:02.049 --> 00:34:04.329
on like what we're dealing with. We're not talking

00:34:04.329 --> 00:34:07.269
about a hairy human on four legs. We're talking

00:34:07.269 --> 00:34:14.480
about a dog. And dogs, if taught that there's

00:34:14.480 --> 00:34:19.940
no negative connotation to this space, dogs will

00:34:19.940 --> 00:34:24.059
really enjoy that. And they can really enjoy

00:34:24.059 --> 00:34:27.519
that. And we can cultivate that. And we can use

00:34:27.519 --> 00:34:30.679
that to even bolster our relationship with the

00:34:30.679 --> 00:34:36.639
dog. So don't feel like... You should never feel

00:34:36.639 --> 00:34:39.420
like you're a bad dog owner because you crate

00:34:39.420 --> 00:34:42.739
your dog. Right. That's just not how the dog

00:34:42.739 --> 00:34:47.119
thinks about it. Yeah. All right. So it stops

00:34:47.119 --> 00:34:50.900
destructive behaviors when dogs can't be supervised.

00:34:50.980 --> 00:34:54.099
We really nailed that one down. The next thing

00:34:54.099 --> 00:34:58.719
is that it teaches impulse control by structuring

00:34:58.719 --> 00:35:06.659
when they have freedom and when they don't. You

00:35:06.659 --> 00:35:08.820
think about this a little differently. Instead

00:35:08.820 --> 00:35:12.659
of being like, cool, you have ultimate freedom

00:35:12.659 --> 00:35:15.480
in the house. And then when you go in your crate,

00:35:15.599 --> 00:35:18.719
that's when you're in jail and you have no freedom.

00:35:19.420 --> 00:35:23.340
That is the negative connotation that we're talking

00:35:23.340 --> 00:35:26.519
about and encouraging you to not instill in your

00:35:26.519 --> 00:35:30.400
dog. If you thought about it differently, like

00:35:30.400 --> 00:35:34.980
the crate is your normal, the crate is your baseline.

00:35:35.849 --> 00:35:41.150
And then sometimes you get to come out and interact

00:35:41.150 --> 00:35:46.110
with everything and you get these freedoms. It

00:35:46.110 --> 00:35:48.389
might lead you to a different thought process.

00:35:49.190 --> 00:35:51.789
Now, once again, I'm not saying that the dog

00:35:51.789 --> 00:35:56.369
has to live in the crate, but if you instill

00:35:56.369 --> 00:36:03.630
it in short bursts, it can do a lot to increasing

00:36:03.630 --> 00:36:08.960
the value, of the freedom in the house so that

00:36:08.960 --> 00:36:12.179
you can even use just the regular freedom of

00:36:12.179 --> 00:36:14.840
it, of the dog being able to meander around the

00:36:14.840 --> 00:36:21.519
house as a rewarding activity. Yep. All right.

00:36:23.260 --> 00:36:26.480
And the last thing with this is that it reinforces

00:36:26.480 --> 00:36:30.659
the owner's role as leader by controlling access

00:36:30.659 --> 00:36:36.000
to space. Almost all the time. When we're dealing

00:36:36.000 --> 00:36:39.360
with a dog with resource guarding or dealing

00:36:39.360 --> 00:36:44.400
with a dog that sees their place in the pack

00:36:44.400 --> 00:36:50.239
as being above the owner. That dog does not either

00:36:50.239 --> 00:36:57.860
does not often spend time in a crate or has had

00:36:57.860 --> 00:37:02.019
a like definitive issue with going in a crate

00:37:02.019 --> 00:37:09.019
in the past. Yeah. almost all the time um so

00:37:09.019 --> 00:37:12.440
this is where this is why we're harping on this

00:37:12.440 --> 00:37:16.480
and it may sound like we're just like just beating

00:37:16.480 --> 00:37:20.460
the horse right the dead horse yeah yeah that's

00:37:20.460 --> 00:37:22.860
the phrase right right i said it wrong i'm sorry

00:37:22.860 --> 00:37:27.179
um hey how do we incorporate how do you incorporate

00:37:27.179 --> 00:37:29.199
create time into structured daily routine so

00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:33.659
how do we do it at top dog training So we do

00:37:33.659 --> 00:37:35.760
it kind of like, I don't know, I relate it always

00:37:35.760 --> 00:37:37.840
go back to kids and babies, right? It's like

00:37:37.840 --> 00:37:41.539
a lot of those examples. I know because it just

00:37:41.539 --> 00:37:45.300
makes a little bit more sense when you think

00:37:45.300 --> 00:37:47.539
of it this way and can relate it back to like

00:37:47.539 --> 00:37:50.920
humans. Even though we always encourage you like

00:37:50.920 --> 00:37:53.340
don't put your emotions on your dog, like you

00:37:53.340 --> 00:37:56.980
can still find those correlations for sure. So

00:37:56.980 --> 00:38:01.000
we do nighttime, always in a crate. Right. Travel

00:38:01.000 --> 00:38:04.619
kennel or the big four by four kennel, depending

00:38:04.619 --> 00:38:08.179
on the dog. But always sleeping in a crate. We

00:38:08.179 --> 00:38:09.920
don't let the dogs like free sleep anywhere.

00:38:10.059 --> 00:38:12.800
We don't do like in the bed, in the bedroom,

00:38:13.119 --> 00:38:18.440
any of that. Always in a crate. And then we do

00:38:18.440 --> 00:38:22.860
morning letouts. We do back in the crate really

00:38:22.860 --> 00:38:26.219
quickly for breakfast routines. And then we're

00:38:26.219 --> 00:38:28.739
out and kind of working. We do middle of the

00:38:28.739 --> 00:38:33.670
day nap times. just like babies um and then we

00:38:33.670 --> 00:38:37.289
do like a little afternoon session in there before

00:38:37.289 --> 00:38:40.730
dinner and with dinner um and then it's back

00:38:40.730 --> 00:38:43.809
out again and then back in at night time for

00:38:43.809 --> 00:38:47.750
sleeping right so the concept is in and out right

00:38:47.750 --> 00:38:50.389
in and out in and out in and out yeah um and

00:38:50.389 --> 00:38:53.869
and it happens it happens throughout the day

00:38:53.869 --> 00:38:58.429
with to create those breaks yeah right it's not

00:38:58.429 --> 00:39:02.179
about well i'm just gonna put them in there so

00:39:02.179 --> 00:39:05.940
that then i can you know go to the store it's

00:39:05.940 --> 00:39:10.119
like i'm sitting right there but this is a structured

00:39:10.119 --> 00:39:14.639
rest right that is a concept that i think a lot

00:39:14.639 --> 00:39:16.880
of people just don't get it's not about well

00:39:16.880 --> 00:39:23.000
i mean i so i got asked um i got asked one time

00:39:23.400 --> 00:39:25.940
An owner was pretty frustrated with dogs that

00:39:25.940 --> 00:39:28.440
were just peeing and pooping in the house all

00:39:28.440 --> 00:39:31.760
the time. And they were like, well, at what point

00:39:31.760 --> 00:39:35.920
in this training do I finally get to just like

00:39:35.920 --> 00:39:38.719
let my dogs out around the house so that they

00:39:38.719 --> 00:39:43.019
can just, you know, be dogs? I'm like, well,

00:39:43.119 --> 00:39:46.139
that depends on the dogs that you have. You might

00:39:46.139 --> 00:39:49.059
not have the dogs that get to do that. Yeah.

00:39:49.739 --> 00:39:52.510
Because every dog is different. There's some

00:39:52.510 --> 00:39:54.610
dogs that they never have to be in a crate one

00:39:54.610 --> 00:39:58.469
time. Right. Yeah. But we're a dog trainer company

00:39:58.469 --> 00:40:01.530
and we have, we're, we're putting this podcast

00:40:01.530 --> 00:40:05.869
out for people that if you've got a, an amazingly

00:40:05.869 --> 00:40:08.510
trained dog, you're probably not listening to

00:40:08.510 --> 00:40:10.389
this podcast. Yeah. If your dog's never needed

00:40:10.389 --> 00:40:12.329
to be in a crate. If your dog is never needed

00:40:12.329 --> 00:40:14.710
to be in a crate, you're probably not the demographic

00:40:14.710 --> 00:40:17.570
that's listening to this. Right. Or you've certainly

00:40:17.570 --> 00:40:21.090
not like solicited professional dog training.

00:40:21.269 --> 00:40:24.789
Yeah. Because there are dogs out there that just,

00:40:24.789 --> 00:40:27.690
maybe they just don't need that. Right. That's

00:40:27.690 --> 00:40:30.230
fine. We get asked that a lot with like reactive

00:40:30.230 --> 00:40:31.969
dogs. And it's like, well, when can I let my

00:40:31.969 --> 00:40:35.909
dog play with other dogs off leash? i mean probably

00:40:35.909 --> 00:40:39.050
probably never depending on the dog it just depends

00:40:39.050 --> 00:40:41.929
but it depends on the dog you have a reactive

00:40:41.929 --> 00:40:44.250
dog right and they're like well i want to i want

00:40:44.250 --> 00:40:46.690
to keep it i see other people right but is that

00:40:46.690 --> 00:40:49.889
dog reactive yeah has that dog needed any kind

00:40:49.889 --> 00:40:52.530
of training right is that dog genetically sound

00:40:52.530 --> 00:40:55.329
we don't get so many questions right and we don't

00:40:55.329 --> 00:40:57.809
get to this isn't just kicking the can down the

00:40:57.809 --> 00:40:59.769
road and being like well you either get the dog

00:40:59.769 --> 00:41:04.210
no we can definitely make positive changes but

00:41:04.570 --> 00:41:08.510
When your dog, what we're trying to address is

00:41:08.510 --> 00:41:11.929
the answer to the question of, well, when does

00:41:11.929 --> 00:41:15.510
the dog finally get to do this? That's kind of

00:41:15.510 --> 00:41:18.670
up to the dog. Right, but it doesn't, crate training

00:41:18.670 --> 00:41:21.769
doesn't even come down to that. It's like we.

00:41:22.480 --> 00:41:25.179
I'm going down the reactivity road now in my

00:41:25.179 --> 00:41:27.539
head and I'm like answering questions. Right,

00:41:27.539 --> 00:41:30.239
and we talk about crate training in the instance

00:41:30.239 --> 00:41:33.019
that you need to travel with your dog, right?

00:41:33.619 --> 00:41:36.300
Almost all the time, if you put your dog just

00:41:36.300 --> 00:41:38.460
like randomly in a car, they're all over the

00:41:38.460 --> 00:41:42.539
car, right? It's also not the safest. Like you

00:41:42.539 --> 00:41:44.039
could have your dog in a kennel and it could

00:41:44.039 --> 00:41:45.880
be laying down and it could be comfortable and

00:41:45.880 --> 00:41:49.860
a lot safer. Traveling on an airplane, going

00:41:49.860 --> 00:41:52.050
to the vet's office, like you said. boarding

00:41:52.050 --> 00:41:54.349
them somewhere if you think they're not going

00:41:54.349 --> 00:41:57.610
to be like in some sort of kennel on their own

00:41:57.610 --> 00:42:00.630
in a different environment you're wrong you're

00:42:00.630 --> 00:42:02.630
throwing them right into the deep end of the

00:42:02.630 --> 00:42:05.590
pool without giving them any kind of like lesson

00:42:05.590 --> 00:42:08.429
on how to swim which could potentially be an

00:42:08.429 --> 00:42:11.829
incredibly life -altering and traumatic event

00:42:11.829 --> 00:42:16.190
right when the dog is hurt And already having

00:42:16.190 --> 00:42:19.949
a terrible day going to the vet is not the time

00:42:19.949 --> 00:42:24.369
to try to talk it calm and put it into a crate.

00:42:24.469 --> 00:42:26.349
It's exactly how we talk about like muzzling

00:42:26.349 --> 00:42:28.530
dogs. It's like you don't throw a muzzle on a

00:42:28.530 --> 00:42:31.969
dog when you're in a 911 situation and it's like

00:42:31.969 --> 00:42:34.190
red line. That's the first time. Right. It's

00:42:34.190 --> 00:42:37.730
not the first time. So, right. I think what you

00:42:37.730 --> 00:42:39.900
were. You were saying that's not the time to

00:42:39.900 --> 00:42:41.519
try to teach. Right, that's not the time to like,

00:42:41.599 --> 00:42:43.840
yeah, try to just like put it on and be like,

00:42:43.920 --> 00:42:48.940
hey, let's do this. Right. And so we muzzle train

00:42:48.940 --> 00:42:53.199
our dogs and we crate train our dogs for that

00:42:53.199 --> 00:42:57.380
specific event. Yep. Because at some point something

00:42:57.380 --> 00:42:59.960
bad could happen. Right. And that's the time

00:42:59.960 --> 00:43:01.760
when you want to be able to just slide a muzzle

00:43:01.760 --> 00:43:06.869
on so that a doctor, a vet, a somebody can. manipulate

00:43:06.869 --> 00:43:09.710
a broken limb or something like that without

00:43:09.710 --> 00:43:12.250
getting bit and without creating a whole bunch

00:43:12.250 --> 00:43:16.530
of other issues so um yep that is a segue try

00:43:16.530 --> 00:43:19.309
not to go down the road too far but on the reactivity

00:43:19.309 --> 00:43:23.130
part what i was trying to say here without going

00:43:23.130 --> 00:43:28.530
all the way down the road is that the dog is

00:43:28.530 --> 00:43:37.539
going to control when you get to not lead them

00:43:37.539 --> 00:43:43.119
anymore right because the dog and and i say that

00:43:43.119 --> 00:43:46.079
really even carefully because there's really

00:43:46.079 --> 00:43:48.340
never a time when you're never when you're not

00:43:48.340 --> 00:43:52.179
going to lead them but the concept of like having

00:43:52.179 --> 00:43:56.699
to intrusively lead every interaction that the

00:43:56.699 --> 00:44:00.199
dog has during the day should eventually subside.

00:44:00.360 --> 00:44:03.800
And when that is going to happen, I cannot answer

00:44:03.800 --> 00:44:07.420
for you. It is not a certain point in training

00:44:07.420 --> 00:44:12.059
where suddenly you're able to do that. It comes

00:44:12.059 --> 00:44:15.079
down to the dog and it comes down to, do you

00:44:15.079 --> 00:44:17.800
trust the dog? Do you trust the dog to make those

00:44:17.800 --> 00:44:21.500
decisions that you would make yourself, make

00:44:21.500 --> 00:44:24.880
appropriate decisions? Like don't chew up the

00:44:24.880 --> 00:44:29.599
door. Don't chew up the trim on the wall. All

00:44:29.599 --> 00:44:36.639
right. Positive association and consistency is

00:44:36.639 --> 00:44:40.340
the key to all of this, right? So introducing

00:44:40.340 --> 00:44:44.280
the crate in the right way is incredibly important.

00:44:44.519 --> 00:44:46.860
So now we're going to talk about that. So number

00:44:46.860 --> 00:44:51.400
one, never force a dog inside. Use food. Use

00:44:51.400 --> 00:44:56.469
their toys. Build value. One of the ways that

00:44:56.469 --> 00:44:59.309
we do that, right? So we food lure. I like to

00:44:59.309 --> 00:45:03.650
get a dog right off the bat. I just got another

00:45:03.650 --> 00:45:06.030
dog that started a program just a couple days

00:45:06.030 --> 00:45:09.789
ago. And the first day, we start crate training.

00:45:10.570 --> 00:45:13.449
And it's cool. Let me take a little bit of food.

00:45:13.630 --> 00:45:17.769
And let me just hold the food into the crate

00:45:17.769 --> 00:45:21.769
until I can get the dog to just move their head

00:45:21.769 --> 00:45:25.360
in. Just enough to sniff. And then I'm not going

00:45:25.360 --> 00:45:28.159
to make them go into it. I'm going to feed them.

00:45:28.239 --> 00:45:30.940
I'm going to pull my hand back towards them and

00:45:30.940 --> 00:45:34.199
reward. And I'm going to mark that the same way

00:45:34.199 --> 00:45:35.699
that we've talked about a whole bunch of the

00:45:35.699 --> 00:45:38.699
past. I'm going to mark it and reward. And then

00:45:38.699 --> 00:45:40.039
I'm going to do it again. And I'm going to do

00:45:40.039 --> 00:45:41.840
it again. And then I'm going to hold the food

00:45:41.840 --> 00:45:43.760
just a little bit further. And I'm going to get

00:45:43.760 --> 00:45:47.059
that one paw in. And as soon as that one paw

00:45:47.059 --> 00:45:50.239
goes in, they're like, oh, wow, I got another

00:45:50.239 --> 00:45:53.719
treat. And they start to see, oh, wow, the crate

00:45:53.719 --> 00:45:58.579
didn't suck me in. And the door didn't just slam

00:45:58.579 --> 00:46:02.619
on there. Nothing pulled me into the crate. And

00:46:02.619 --> 00:46:06.420
then we slowly increase that. And we get two

00:46:06.420 --> 00:46:08.139
paws. And we get three paws. We get four paws.

00:46:08.380 --> 00:46:12.300
And maybe we take the whole door off of the kennel,

00:46:12.320 --> 00:46:15.309
if you've got a kennel that can do that. Or the

00:46:15.309 --> 00:46:17.809
kennel just stays open. Make sure that the door

00:46:17.809 --> 00:46:22.010
doesn't swing closed and tap the dog as you're

00:46:22.010 --> 00:46:23.769
doing a lot of this because that will weird them

00:46:23.769 --> 00:46:30.590
out. So it's a slow building block process. But

00:46:30.590 --> 00:46:34.650
there's no shortcut to this. Once we can get

00:46:34.650 --> 00:46:38.570
the dog reliably in and out of the crate, then

00:46:38.570 --> 00:46:41.809
I start rewarding the dog while they're in the

00:46:41.809 --> 00:46:47.289
crate more than once. Then two times, then three

00:46:47.289 --> 00:46:49.349
times, then four times, then five times. I start

00:46:49.349 --> 00:46:53.289
to build this duration while the dog's just having

00:46:53.289 --> 00:46:56.469
a great time. It's like, oh, wow, I get so much

00:46:56.469 --> 00:47:01.690
attention, so much good stuff inside here. It

00:47:01.690 --> 00:47:08.130
makes them naturally relate more pleasurable

00:47:08.130 --> 00:47:11.469
things to being in there. And then we let them

00:47:11.469 --> 00:47:21.369
out. At some point, we eventually increase the

00:47:21.369 --> 00:47:26.570
amount of time that we're able to do that. And

00:47:26.570 --> 00:47:31.690
then we increase that duration. One minute, two

00:47:31.690 --> 00:47:34.610
minutes, three minutes, four minutes. Right.

00:47:34.630 --> 00:47:37.610
And I think one good thing to like a good tip

00:47:37.610 --> 00:47:40.719
is also like. put a bowl of food in there like

00:47:40.719 --> 00:47:42.719
first thing in the morning and close the kennel

00:47:42.719 --> 00:47:46.440
door and just leave it there right you can leave

00:47:46.440 --> 00:47:48.519
it there all day with the kennel door closed

00:47:48.519 --> 00:47:51.260
the dog is going to constantly if you have the

00:47:51.260 --> 00:47:53.320
kennel in the environment where they are like

00:47:53.320 --> 00:47:56.360
in the living room um the dog is constantly going

00:47:56.360 --> 00:47:57.800
to be like man i wish i could have that food

00:47:57.800 --> 00:48:00.130
man i wish i could have that food And then by

00:48:00.130 --> 00:48:02.250
the end of the day, just open the door and let

00:48:02.250 --> 00:48:04.610
the dog kind of casually go in and eat the food.

00:48:04.690 --> 00:48:08.269
It doesn't have to be this big entire thing.

00:48:08.369 --> 00:48:11.809
Like you can build that anticipation to go into

00:48:11.809 --> 00:48:15.969
the crate. And I think that works wonders for

00:48:15.969 --> 00:48:19.610
some dogs. And different dogs are going to react

00:48:19.610 --> 00:48:23.750
differently, right? They're not all going to

00:48:23.750 --> 00:48:26.989
be like, yeah, I'll go in there for food. Right.

00:48:27.050 --> 00:48:29.880
First time off the bat. sometimes you're going

00:48:29.880 --> 00:48:31.840
to have to build it up and it's going to take

00:48:31.840 --> 00:48:36.800
a lot longer time. But it really is super dog

00:48:36.800 --> 00:48:39.460
dependent. And I think that's the thing that

00:48:39.460 --> 00:48:43.739
some people lose track of is sometimes we'll

00:48:43.739 --> 00:48:45.320
get a dog that's like never been in a crate,

00:48:45.420 --> 00:48:48.699
right? And most of the time when we start with

00:48:48.699 --> 00:48:51.099
a dog that's never been in one or never really

00:48:51.099 --> 00:48:55.679
like stayed in one, we will start them in a kennel

00:48:55.679 --> 00:48:58.869
in the living room. Right? Because one, they

00:48:58.869 --> 00:49:01.090
can see us. They're like, oh, they're still right

00:49:01.090 --> 00:49:06.110
there. And then maybe if the dog is having a

00:49:06.110 --> 00:49:09.650
really hard time, you can move it into the bedroom.

00:49:10.190 --> 00:49:12.710
Because then it feels closer to you at nighttime.

00:49:12.829 --> 00:49:14.989
Because nighttime is when a lot of people struggle.

00:49:15.849 --> 00:49:18.070
And they're like, well, my dog is screaming.

00:49:18.710 --> 00:49:21.530
Right? But when you have a baby, it's screaming

00:49:21.530 --> 00:49:24.389
also. Like you have to think of it that way.

00:49:24.469 --> 00:49:27.690
Like the dog needs support through that. especially

00:49:27.690 --> 00:49:29.690
if it's like an eight week old puppy, right?

00:49:29.809 --> 00:49:33.289
It's like away from its siblings, its mom, like

00:49:33.289 --> 00:49:35.750
those are really big emotions that the dog is

00:49:35.750 --> 00:49:38.650
going through that it can't like show you. But

00:49:38.650 --> 00:49:42.210
it's a big thing for a puppy. And so even if

00:49:42.210 --> 00:49:44.869
it's not a puppy, the dog is experiencing something

00:49:44.869 --> 00:49:47.929
new being away from people. And that may be hard.

00:49:47.969 --> 00:49:51.010
So start closer to you and build it out from

00:49:51.010 --> 00:49:53.949
there. And I will say some dogs do better if

00:49:53.949 --> 00:49:57.690
they can't even see you. You know, when we first

00:49:57.690 --> 00:50:00.309
brought Dexter home, like it was, okay, does

00:50:00.309 --> 00:50:02.409
he do better in the bedroom where he can see

00:50:02.409 --> 00:50:04.190
us? Okay, that worked great for the first couple

00:50:04.190 --> 00:50:07.590
nights. Now let's try moving him away from us.

00:50:07.630 --> 00:50:11.389
Does he do better? Does he do worse? Is it manageable

00:50:11.389 --> 00:50:14.929
to where we can build out the fact that he's

00:50:14.929 --> 00:50:18.969
moving greater distances away from us? And ideally,

00:50:19.150 --> 00:50:21.230
you know, you don't want to hear a dog like he

00:50:21.230 --> 00:50:23.809
slams around in his kennel and kicks his legs

00:50:23.809 --> 00:50:27.210
everywhere like a gorilla. And so it's like you

00:50:27.210 --> 00:50:28.750
don't want to listen to that at night. So obviously

00:50:28.750 --> 00:50:33.010
the bedroom is not ideal. And so you have to

00:50:33.010 --> 00:50:34.989
figure out what works best for you and the dog

00:50:34.989 --> 00:50:37.150
and change it up. Don't be afraid to change it

00:50:37.150 --> 00:50:39.869
up, but also don't change it up too frequently.

00:50:40.090 --> 00:50:42.329
Right. It's like you have to give the dog time

00:50:42.329 --> 00:50:44.789
to adjust. And yeah, it might whine and cry,

00:50:44.969 --> 00:50:48.849
but that's a natural. thing for a dog to do and

00:50:48.849 --> 00:50:53.949
you have to let them like get and gain that independence

00:50:53.949 --> 00:50:57.630
and sometimes it takes some big emotions to like

00:50:57.630 --> 00:51:01.530
do that but I promise you like there's dogs we

00:51:01.530 --> 00:51:04.570
have that have never touched a crate or been

00:51:04.570 --> 00:51:06.530
made to stay in a crate when somebody is around

00:51:06.530 --> 00:51:08.809
and those are the hardest ones because they're

00:51:08.809 --> 00:51:10.289
like no no I just want to be with you I just

00:51:10.289 --> 00:51:11.449
want to be with you I just want to be with you

00:51:11.449 --> 00:51:13.710
I can see you but I just want to be with you

00:51:13.710 --> 00:51:18.530
and it's like cool we're a weekend Still like

00:51:18.530 --> 00:51:21.170
dealing with like some whining and some like,

00:51:21.269 --> 00:51:25.670
oh, I don't want to be in here still. But it's

00:51:25.670 --> 00:51:28.590
it's the progress that's been made in a week

00:51:28.590 --> 00:51:31.329
when the dog could be like a year old, two years

00:51:31.329 --> 00:51:34.110
old, still never been in a crate. But for some

00:51:34.110 --> 00:51:37.869
reason now people are like, I need to I need

00:51:37.869 --> 00:51:40.730
the dog to go in a crate and be OK. Almost right

00:51:40.730 --> 00:51:42.630
with the thing that we see all the time. And

00:51:42.630 --> 00:51:44.230
then, Jen, I'll get to your question in just

00:51:44.230 --> 00:51:51.159
a second. I see it a lot, and this isn't me headhunting.

00:51:51.179 --> 00:51:56.519
I'm not coming after you. I am empathetic. However,

00:51:56.719 --> 00:52:01.800
there's no magical process that dog trainers

00:52:01.800 --> 00:52:06.599
get dogs to love their crate that dog owners

00:52:06.599 --> 00:52:10.400
couldn't do. Right, we put on some headphones.

00:52:10.400 --> 00:52:13.340
We put on some headphones. We try some things

00:52:13.340 --> 00:52:15.820
until something clicks and it's like, oh, this

00:52:15.820 --> 00:52:20.360
is it. And when the dog stops whining, we let

00:52:20.360 --> 00:52:24.440
it out. Yeah. But when the dog is whining, that

00:52:24.440 --> 00:52:29.480
is not the time to let the dog out. Nope. You

00:52:29.480 --> 00:52:35.099
have to own it. Yeah. You put the dog in there.

00:52:35.920 --> 00:52:39.900
And it is now testing you. Yeah. And it's like,

00:52:39.940 --> 00:52:43.679
I'm going to make this really unbearable. Right.

00:52:43.719 --> 00:52:45.420
It's like a kid screaming in the grocery store

00:52:45.420 --> 00:52:46.840
for candy. It's like, I'm going to scream louder

00:52:46.840 --> 00:52:49.739
until you buy it. But when you let the dog out

00:52:49.739 --> 00:52:54.219
of the kennel, you are offering the candy to

00:52:54.219 --> 00:52:57.940
that kid. Right. When they are thrown a fit in

00:52:57.940 --> 00:53:00.900
the middle of the aisle, that is the same thing.

00:53:01.639 --> 00:53:04.320
And we just can't do that. There's no amount

00:53:04.320 --> 00:53:06.659
of force that you have to put on your dog. It's

00:53:06.659 --> 00:53:10.159
completely force free. You're just checking out

00:53:10.159 --> 00:53:13.760
and ignoring the behavior that you don't want.

00:53:14.019 --> 00:53:16.780
And then you're rewarding the behavior you do

00:53:16.780 --> 00:53:23.639
want. There is no better way to do that. So now

00:53:23.639 --> 00:53:27.880
the only caveat to that, the better way to do

00:53:27.880 --> 00:53:30.460
that is to introduce it right at the beginning.

00:53:30.889 --> 00:53:34.510
Yeah. Before those bad habits start. Right, yeah.

00:53:34.750 --> 00:53:37.409
But once the bad habit is there, the bad habit's

00:53:37.409 --> 00:53:39.590
there, you can't go differently. I mean, you

00:53:39.590 --> 00:53:43.710
can pay a professional dog trainer to do the

00:53:43.710 --> 00:53:50.170
work for you, but that is the same process. We're

00:53:50.170 --> 00:53:53.690
not, like, casting a spell on this dog. We're

00:53:53.690 --> 00:53:58.550
just sitting with a dog. We're sitting next to

00:53:58.550 --> 00:54:02.769
the kennel. And letting the dog whine. And then

00:54:02.769 --> 00:54:05.869
when the dog stops whining, we reward. Yeah.

00:54:06.610 --> 00:54:11.010
That's how you undo it. All right. So Jen said,

00:54:11.269 --> 00:54:14.510
so she said sometimes she needs a kennel for

00:54:14.510 --> 00:54:20.030
herself. But sometimes Chenoa will get in her

00:54:20.030 --> 00:54:22.489
kennel with the door open instead of her place.

00:54:23.710 --> 00:54:27.630
Nothing wrong with that. So there is a concept

00:54:27.630 --> 00:54:35.269
that you create. There's a more advanced concept

00:54:35.269 --> 00:54:38.469
where you kind of control that space and then

00:54:38.469 --> 00:54:42.190
only allow the dog to go into their kennel at

00:54:42.190 --> 00:54:46.150
certain times. for chenoa specifically i don't

00:54:46.150 --> 00:54:48.750
i don't see that being an issue um so there's

00:54:48.750 --> 00:54:50.550
nothing that i would recommend with that yeah

00:54:50.550 --> 00:54:52.510
it's totally fine most of the time that comes

00:54:52.510 --> 00:54:54.429
down to like a problem when it's like a multi

00:54:54.429 --> 00:54:56.650
-dog household because then dogs can just go

00:54:56.650 --> 00:54:59.010
into whatever kennel whenever they want and it's

00:54:59.010 --> 00:55:07.780
like i i don't ever usually like vouch for a

00:55:07.780 --> 00:55:10.900
dog having specific things in a multi -dog like

00:55:10.900 --> 00:55:13.659
household like toys or like whatever right that's

00:55:13.659 --> 00:55:16.320
this dog's right yeah that's this that's their

00:55:16.320 --> 00:55:19.860
ball it's like it's my ball and we share we all

00:55:19.860 --> 00:55:21.599
share it and if we're not going to share it we

00:55:21.599 --> 00:55:24.699
won't play with it but when it comes to kennels

00:55:24.699 --> 00:55:29.219
like i said i relate a kennel back to a bedroom

00:55:29.219 --> 00:55:33.199
and that should be their private space to go

00:55:33.199 --> 00:55:35.699
and relax they shouldn't ever have to worry about

00:55:35.699 --> 00:55:39.219
another dog invading that space or or trying

00:55:39.219 --> 00:55:42.920
to argue with them over that space so that is

00:55:42.920 --> 00:55:45.559
one of the things that i do always like tell

00:55:45.559 --> 00:55:49.280
people is don't let dogs like swap kennels it's

00:55:49.280 --> 00:55:51.280
if it's their kennel it's their kennel put it

00:55:51.280 --> 00:55:52.940
on opposite sides of the room if you have to

00:55:52.940 --> 00:55:55.519
to like differentiate but when our dogs come

00:55:55.519 --> 00:55:57.420
out of their kennels like we close the doors

00:55:57.420 --> 00:56:00.239
yep for safety because the way our kennels are

00:56:00.239 --> 00:56:02.639
set up and two because we don't want dogs just

00:56:02.639 --> 00:56:05.800
like randomly going into those kennels yep i

00:56:05.800 --> 00:56:12.400
was ready to jump in and then i swallowed air

00:56:12.400 --> 00:56:16.699
the wrong the wrong way um jen also said only

00:56:16.699 --> 00:56:19.559
recently has chenoa whimpered about going into

00:56:19.559 --> 00:56:21.840
her kennel but she settles down and then snores

00:56:21.840 --> 00:56:25.989
um I would say that a lot of times that can be

00:56:25.989 --> 00:56:29.550
fixed with just a little extra time or extra

00:56:29.550 --> 00:56:32.489
repetitions of going in their kennel. Yeah, that's

00:56:32.489 --> 00:56:34.989
like a teenage dog phase right there. It's like,

00:56:34.989 --> 00:56:37.989
I don't want to. It's like, well, the rule has

00:56:37.989 --> 00:56:41.670
been that rule and it's still the rule. And then...

00:56:42.829 --> 00:56:45.050
Still Jen. Jen, you got a lot to say tonight.

00:56:46.670 --> 00:56:49.929
So the, which is totally fine. I'm just razzing

00:56:49.929 --> 00:56:54.369
you. The baby scenario is a true schedule. I

00:56:54.369 --> 00:56:57.610
do that. I sit. in my recliner due to my mobility

00:56:57.610 --> 00:57:00.829
after playtime with chenoa she goes into her

00:57:00.829 --> 00:57:04.289
kennel for about two hours then out to potty

00:57:04.289 --> 00:57:07.230
and then play time and interaction time yeah

00:57:07.230 --> 00:57:10.550
uh that's like the triangle um so now this is

00:57:10.550 --> 00:57:13.070
me talking so that's the triangle that we always

00:57:13.070 --> 00:57:15.489
recommend right uh being the top of the triangle

00:57:15.489 --> 00:57:17.949
is the kennel or crate time then they go straight

00:57:17.949 --> 00:57:20.289
outside they go potty and then that way they

00:57:20.289 --> 00:57:23.960
can come inside and immediately start their interaction

00:57:23.960 --> 00:57:28.099
time, that is the highest statistical chance

00:57:28.099 --> 00:57:29.599
that they are not going to have an accident,

00:57:29.719 --> 00:57:35.960
they're not going to have an issue with potty

00:57:35.960 --> 00:57:40.280
-based behaviors. And then at the point where

00:57:40.280 --> 00:57:42.820
we, and when we're working on potty training,

00:57:42.980 --> 00:57:45.099
at the point where we get done with that interaction

00:57:45.099 --> 00:57:48.159
time, then they go back into their crate so that...

00:57:48.429 --> 00:57:52.630
they start to expand and work the muscle that

00:57:52.630 --> 00:57:57.269
then allows them to, to hold it longer. Um, and

00:57:57.269 --> 00:58:01.170
then we repeat the process. Um, so yeah. And

00:58:01.170 --> 00:58:03.969
then she said then, uh, onto a two hour kennel

00:58:03.969 --> 00:58:06.610
time during child pickup. Yep. So that's great.

00:58:06.650 --> 00:58:10.389
If you can't, uh, watch her and you can't observe

00:58:10.389 --> 00:58:15.130
her or supervise, uh, crate is definitely a great

00:58:15.130 --> 00:58:19.019
thing for her to, to go into. And then she said

00:58:19.019 --> 00:58:22.519
Steve only goes to her kennel in order to taunt

00:58:22.519 --> 00:58:28.780
her. So if you have that where one dog is like,

00:58:28.920 --> 00:58:31.500
oh, I really want to come out. And the other

00:58:31.500 --> 00:58:36.079
dog is not really respecting this space around

00:58:36.079 --> 00:58:38.920
the kennel. I would probably restrict the other

00:58:38.920 --> 00:58:42.559
dog from getting near that crater kennel. Yeah,

00:58:42.579 --> 00:58:45.699
because we do like rotate dogs out in and out

00:58:45.699 --> 00:58:49.960
of kennels. It's one to work with the dog to

00:58:49.960 --> 00:58:53.320
get rid of that like FOMO, right? The fear of

00:58:53.320 --> 00:58:55.719
missing out. It's like we want a dog to be able

00:58:55.719 --> 00:58:59.639
to sit in a kennel and not whine or bark at another

00:58:59.639 --> 00:59:02.480
dog, like working through a training session

00:59:02.480 --> 00:59:05.760
outside of the kennel. And then we will put that

00:59:05.760 --> 00:59:08.519
dog that just trained in the kennel, bring the

00:59:08.519 --> 00:59:10.460
other dog out. And it's kind of teaching the

00:59:10.460 --> 00:59:13.679
rule of like, like taking turns, right? It's

00:59:13.679 --> 00:59:16.760
like, wait your turn. it's generally what the

00:59:16.760 --> 00:59:20.840
concept is in like a multi -dog household yep

00:59:20.840 --> 00:59:24.699
so i the questions i had for that section uh

00:59:24.699 --> 00:59:27.239
was what's the step -by -step method for introducing

00:59:27.239 --> 00:59:29.199
a puppy to the crate and i talked through that

00:59:29.199 --> 00:59:31.420
with the whole one paw two paw three paw four

00:59:31.420 --> 00:59:34.719
um how do we troubleshoot whining or barking

00:59:34.719 --> 00:59:38.360
the crate you wait it out yeah it takes a long

00:59:38.360 --> 00:59:42.199
time there is not a magical way um there are

00:59:42.199 --> 00:59:48.699
um Air duster. So there's a bunch of these methods.

00:59:49.960 --> 00:59:53.719
It's really dog dependent. Right. It's 100 %

00:59:53.719 --> 00:59:55.599
dog dependent. I'm going to give you three or

00:59:55.599 --> 01:00:01.099
four options. Some of these are popular in some

01:00:01.099 --> 01:00:05.239
dog training circles. Some of them are frowned

01:00:05.239 --> 01:00:07.420
upon. I'm going to let you make your own decision.

01:00:07.780 --> 01:00:12.019
However, a couple of options. One, a can of air

01:00:12.019 --> 01:00:15.960
duster. Not at the dog, but just to make a loud

01:00:15.960 --> 01:00:21.820
sound, which can interrupt the pattern. Number

01:00:21.820 --> 01:00:25.940
two, a squirt bottle of just water. Some dogs

01:00:25.940 --> 01:00:29.139
will that will kind of shock the system and be

01:00:29.139 --> 01:00:32.320
like, oh, I can't believe he's. What was that?

01:00:32.440 --> 01:00:36.280
And once again, it's not in order to spray it

01:00:36.280 --> 01:00:38.820
in the dog's face or anything like that. You

01:00:38.820 --> 01:00:42.059
can oftentimes not even hit the dog at all and

01:00:42.059 --> 01:00:45.300
just. Just spray like at the kennel. And it's

01:00:45.300 --> 01:00:48.039
something that just breaks the dog's pattern.

01:00:49.039 --> 01:00:55.179
You can a jar or a little cup or something of

01:00:55.179 --> 01:00:58.679
pennies or small pebbles or rocks, something

01:00:58.679 --> 01:01:04.559
that you can jingle. There are a whistle with

01:01:04.559 --> 01:01:09.480
a nothing that's like too crazy loud, not a dog

01:01:09.480 --> 01:01:12.250
whistle or anything like that. you know, creates

01:01:12.250 --> 01:01:16.130
a big aversion issue, but just something that

01:01:16.130 --> 01:01:19.070
is noise dependent, something that just like

01:01:19.070 --> 01:01:23.550
breaks the dog's concentration and kind of resets

01:01:23.550 --> 01:01:29.829
the dog. Um, other things are, um, uh, vibrating

01:01:29.829 --> 01:01:33.449
remote collars, um, a little vibration. Some

01:01:33.449 --> 01:01:38.489
dogs find vibration incredibly aversive. That's

01:01:38.489 --> 01:01:40.670
probably not the dog that you want to use that

01:01:40.670 --> 01:01:43.679
on. Uh, some dogs don't care about vibration

01:01:43.679 --> 01:01:46.960
at all. Uh, that's also not the dog that you

01:01:46.960 --> 01:01:49.559
want to use it on. So it's very dog dependent,

01:01:49.739 --> 01:01:53.519
but, um, some dogs, I, my, my Dutch shepherd

01:01:53.519 --> 01:01:57.440
works very, very well with vibrate. It doesn't

01:01:57.440 --> 01:01:59.940
shake his head or anything, but you can tell

01:01:59.940 --> 01:02:02.360
that his little ear perks up and he's like, Oh,

01:02:02.400 --> 01:02:05.219
that's, that's my dad. That's my dad saying.

01:02:05.769 --> 01:02:08.889
Stop it. That means no. Right. That means no.

01:02:09.750 --> 01:02:13.269
So those are a whole bunch of options that you

01:02:13.269 --> 01:02:17.550
can use to just break the pattern. But the end

01:02:17.550 --> 01:02:22.090
all be all the most appropriate technique is

01:02:22.090 --> 01:02:27.050
ignore it. Yeah. And don't reward it. Yeah. Because

01:02:27.050 --> 01:02:30.349
sometimes like so we go to no. Right. Sometimes

01:02:30.349 --> 01:02:34.199
it's just going no. and verbally correcting the

01:02:34.199 --> 01:02:38.460
dog. Sometimes that works. Sometimes negative

01:02:38.460 --> 01:02:40.539
attention is still attention. Right. I was going

01:02:40.539 --> 01:02:43.579
to say, we had one dog that every time I would

01:02:43.579 --> 01:02:47.659
go, no, they would bark more. Yeah, right. And

01:02:47.659 --> 01:02:51.000
it was very quick. And so we sit here and I'm

01:02:51.000 --> 01:02:53.079
giving you all these ideas, but then you might

01:02:53.079 --> 01:02:55.699
have one of those dogs. You might have that dog

01:02:55.699 --> 01:02:57.420
that you do all these things and you're like,

01:02:57.440 --> 01:03:00.300
well. That guy's crazy. He doesn't know what

01:03:00.300 --> 01:03:01.880
he's talking about because none of that stuff

01:03:01.880 --> 01:03:04.760
works. Right. It's possible. We had another dog

01:03:04.760 --> 01:03:06.920
that that none of that worked. You know what

01:03:06.920 --> 01:03:10.239
worked the best was just completely removing

01:03:10.239 --> 01:03:14.559
their ability to see anything that was going

01:03:14.559 --> 01:03:17.360
on outside of the crate. Yeah. Right. So just

01:03:17.360 --> 01:03:20.239
placing something like a screen in front of the

01:03:20.239 --> 01:03:23.719
crate, not, you know, blocking the crate from

01:03:23.719 --> 01:03:27.710
airflow or anything, but just angling it. And

01:03:27.710 --> 01:03:30.690
placing a screen a couple feet off so that they

01:03:30.690 --> 01:03:33.469
couldn't see anything. And then we didn't talk

01:03:33.469 --> 01:03:35.690
to him. We didn't say no. We didn't say anything.

01:03:36.090 --> 01:03:38.269
Right. So that was like with Dexter. Like when

01:03:38.269 --> 01:03:40.230
we first brought him in, we were like, oh, cool.

01:03:40.389 --> 01:03:42.030
Let's put him in the bedroom. And then let's

01:03:42.030 --> 01:03:43.909
put him like out of the bedroom and further away.

01:03:44.070 --> 01:03:47.869
Because like I said, some dogs work better when

01:03:47.869 --> 01:03:50.050
they can see you. And some dogs work better when

01:03:50.050 --> 01:03:54.389
they can't. Yep. Absolutely. All right. So that

01:03:54.389 --> 01:03:57.940
is a bunch of the troubleshooting. techniques.

01:03:57.940 --> 01:04:00.519
Last one I've got written down. Thank you everyone

01:04:00.519 --> 01:04:03.000
for bearing with me. I really try to keep these

01:04:03.000 --> 01:04:05.480
just under an hour. We're going over. We're at

01:04:05.480 --> 01:04:08.460
an hour and four minutes. How do we teach owners

01:04:08.460 --> 01:04:10.840
to keep the crate a positive tool for the long

01:04:10.840 --> 01:04:17.840
term? Do not use it to punish the dog. What that

01:04:17.840 --> 01:04:21.159
means is that if you're using it because the

01:04:21.159 --> 01:04:23.000
dog just pooped on the floor and you need the

01:04:23.000 --> 01:04:25.739
dog out of there, you've got to step up and control

01:04:25.739 --> 01:04:31.050
your emotions. And you've got to hide the fact

01:04:31.050 --> 01:04:35.030
that you are so pissed and you got to be like,

01:04:35.150 --> 01:04:40.349
come on, buddy, let's go over here and then put

01:04:40.349 --> 01:04:43.449
the dog away. Now that's separate from however

01:04:43.449 --> 01:04:46.070
it is that you're going to react to or correct

01:04:46.070 --> 01:04:48.050
the potty training thing. That was a different

01:04:48.050 --> 01:04:49.750
episode. I give you a whole bunch of options

01:04:49.750 --> 01:04:52.090
for that on the last episode. But what I'm getting

01:04:52.090 --> 01:04:56.559
at here is that. Dog chews up wall. You grab

01:04:56.559 --> 01:04:59.699
the dog by the collar and toss him into a kennel

01:04:59.699 --> 01:05:04.639
and slam the door. You messed up. That is now

01:05:04.639 --> 01:05:08.980
showing the dog that when they're being punished,

01:05:09.280 --> 01:05:12.659
that's where they're going to go. You can't do

01:05:12.659 --> 01:05:15.159
that. And I know that it's frustrating. I know

01:05:15.159 --> 01:05:17.500
it's incredibly frustrating to come home and

01:05:17.500 --> 01:05:19.360
I've done it. I've come home and I've been like,

01:05:19.420 --> 01:05:24.199
oh man, I messed up. And by me messed up, I mean

01:05:24.199 --> 01:05:29.159
my dogs chose the wrong thing. Right? It happens.

01:05:29.159 --> 01:05:35.239
And it happens to us too. And that can be incredibly

01:05:35.239 --> 01:05:38.820
frustrating. But separate your emotions from

01:05:38.820 --> 01:05:41.920
that moment because you are now faced with a

01:05:41.920 --> 01:05:47.079
moment to either lead your dog or to simply react.

01:05:48.199 --> 01:05:52.000
And I'm going to. I'm going to try to empower

01:05:52.000 --> 01:05:56.139
you here through my voice right now to please

01:05:56.139 --> 01:06:01.659
own your emotions, their human emotions, and

01:06:01.659 --> 01:06:05.219
then lead your dog, guide them to what you need

01:06:05.219 --> 01:06:14.199
them to do. All right. Let's see. I'm just scanning

01:06:14.199 --> 01:06:16.139
through there. All right. So the only thing I

01:06:16.139 --> 01:06:19.119
got left is listener projects. So we'll hit those

01:06:19.119 --> 01:06:22.659
in just a second. I'm going to open this up to

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two questions here. I get my Jeopardy music.

01:06:29.360 --> 01:06:34.579
See, just waiting for the lawsuit from Jeopardy.

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All right, so if anybody's got questions, now

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is the time. Go ahead and unmute your mics and

01:06:42.230 --> 01:06:57.369
we'll handle. Hey, guys, it's Heath. Hey, Heath.

01:06:59.190 --> 01:07:03.250
So my question is, how do you know or how do

01:07:03.250 --> 01:07:06.769
you determine, I guess, What size crate is good

01:07:06.769 --> 01:07:12.409
for your dog? So we recommend kind of the blanket

01:07:12.409 --> 01:07:16.190
statement of the dog should have enough room

01:07:16.190 --> 01:07:21.170
to turn around in the crate and have enough room

01:07:21.170 --> 01:07:26.730
to sit and the top of their head should not like,

01:07:26.869 --> 01:07:30.150
they shouldn't have to like hang their head,

01:07:30.250 --> 01:07:32.289
right? They should be able to sit up in the crate.

01:07:36.119 --> 01:07:38.679
Gotcha. So those are like the two major measurements.

01:07:38.739 --> 01:07:41.000
And then obviously the third measurement is like

01:07:41.000 --> 01:07:43.260
the dog should be able to lay down without having

01:07:43.260 --> 01:07:47.019
to like curl up in a tiny little ball. Yeah.

01:07:47.260 --> 01:07:50.500
Yeah. We've been obviously doing a lot of kennel

01:07:50.500 --> 01:07:53.179
time with Luna since she's been back. And so

01:07:53.179 --> 01:07:54.579
that's, there's one thing we've been looking

01:07:54.579 --> 01:07:56.739
at is like, I wonder if she just needs just maybe

01:07:56.739 --> 01:07:59.239
just a hair bigger crate than what we have currently.

01:07:59.739 --> 01:08:02.019
Yeah. And so that's another thing is like that's

01:08:02.019 --> 01:08:04.619
minimum size. But if the dog is older and doesn't

01:08:04.619 --> 01:08:07.320
have a problem with like pottying in the kennel,

01:08:07.320 --> 01:08:10.780
we'll give them a much larger space than we would

01:08:10.780 --> 01:08:14.179
like a puppy. Right. So if I have no concern

01:08:14.179 --> 01:08:17.699
of her like using the bathroom in a kennel for

01:08:17.699 --> 01:08:22.380
for several hours, but I am. more apt to give

01:08:22.380 --> 01:08:24.579
the dog more room to kind of like walk around

01:08:24.579 --> 01:08:27.020
in the kennel and like kind of have their space

01:08:27.020 --> 01:08:29.979
if they're an older dog and they're there they

01:08:29.979 --> 01:08:31.939
have no problems with being in the kennel but

01:08:31.939 --> 01:08:34.140
a lot of times it's it's no issue as long as

01:08:34.140 --> 01:08:36.399
they have the potty training down that's a really

01:08:36.399 --> 01:08:39.100
good point so that recommendation was was me

01:08:39.100 --> 01:08:42.220
right into dog trainer potty mode yeah but luna

01:08:42.220 --> 01:08:47.119
specifically um uh heath is luna's owner and

01:08:47.119 --> 01:08:51.600
luna is a Very, very, very good and highly potty

01:08:51.600 --> 01:08:56.060
trained. So I don't think that she had in her

01:08:56.060 --> 01:08:58.439
entire program with us. I don't think she had

01:08:58.439 --> 01:09:02.619
a single accident. So definitely not a potty

01:09:02.619 --> 01:09:05.920
training is a risk that we would worry about.

01:09:06.899 --> 01:09:12.199
For my dogs, I measure from their chest to the

01:09:12.199 --> 01:09:16.140
base of their tail. And then I add about six

01:09:16.140 --> 01:09:19.060
to eight inches on that. And then that's usually

01:09:19.060 --> 01:09:22.899
about where I go for length of the kennel because

01:09:22.899 --> 01:09:26.140
they'll usually that allows them to kind of like

01:09:26.140 --> 01:09:31.500
sprawl out a little bit, but still have, you

01:09:31.500 --> 01:09:34.800
know, be nice and cozy. If it's if it's too big,

01:09:34.819 --> 01:09:40.359
then. That can sometimes not feel as soothing

01:09:40.359 --> 01:09:46.920
as we have kind of let it to be. Yeah, Luna slept

01:09:46.920 --> 01:09:51.060
in one of our larger travel kennels for the most

01:09:51.060 --> 01:09:55.699
part. And it was one of the, what is that brand?

01:09:56.880 --> 01:10:00.699
Creek kennels. Rock Creek. Rock Creek kennels.

01:10:00.699 --> 01:10:03.500
It's a metal kennel and it's actually for anxiety.

01:10:04.380 --> 01:10:08.659
It has like. different hole positionings in the

01:10:08.659 --> 01:10:10.699
crate and everything like that it's metal had

01:10:10.699 --> 01:10:15.560
a pad in it we typically give pads softer pads

01:10:15.560 --> 01:10:18.600
to dogs in the travel kennels if they won't chew

01:10:18.600 --> 01:10:22.140
them up or or ruin them and destroy them so she

01:10:22.140 --> 01:10:25.140
always had a pad on the bottom of hers but they

01:10:25.140 --> 01:10:29.609
do make Lots of kennels for higher anxiety dogs.

01:10:29.710 --> 01:10:31.590
And it's all about like the positioning of how

01:10:31.590 --> 01:10:34.409
much they can see. But that is the one that she

01:10:34.409 --> 01:10:36.369
spent most of her time in. I'd say it was probably

01:10:36.369 --> 01:10:40.310
like four times maybe the size that like she

01:10:40.310 --> 01:10:44.149
would need at like a minimum. But she tends to

01:10:44.149 --> 01:10:47.470
like curl up in a little like ball or lay flat

01:10:47.470 --> 01:10:49.989
on her side. So dogs that I know like to sleep

01:10:49.989 --> 01:10:51.989
like that, I typically go for a big enough size

01:10:51.989 --> 01:10:54.649
to where they can lay on their side. you know,

01:10:54.649 --> 01:11:01.029
stretch their legs out entirely. Yep. Awesome.

01:11:01.229 --> 01:11:03.310
Thanks so much guys. Yeah. Yeah. No problem.

01:11:03.369 --> 01:11:07.989
All right. Anybody else got a question tonight?

01:11:09.229 --> 01:11:11.829
I do. I do have one question. Steven Harmon.

01:11:12.449 --> 01:11:18.369
Hey Steve. Hey, hello. So my question, it doesn't

01:11:18.369 --> 01:11:20.069
come from the crate training. I guess it's just,

01:11:20.090 --> 01:11:22.569
it's going to go into like more of your overall.

01:11:23.199 --> 01:11:25.079
uh training and stuff and you just mentioned

01:11:25.079 --> 01:11:27.739
something off offhand but when you have a dog

01:11:27.739 --> 01:11:29.939
that you tell him no and he doesn't really respond

01:11:29.939 --> 01:11:32.939
to no and he kind of gets a little bit more agitated

01:11:32.939 --> 01:11:34.939
not actually in a bad way just a little bit more

01:11:34.939 --> 01:11:38.279
playful i think in the game um what is the best

01:11:38.279 --> 01:11:41.680
way of going about uh that is it do we introduce

01:11:41.680 --> 01:11:44.920
the bottles do we introduce the vibration collars

01:11:44.920 --> 01:11:48.630
at that point or what's the best bet So it depends

01:11:48.630 --> 01:11:52.670
on why they're ramping up to no. Sometimes when

01:11:52.670 --> 01:11:55.449
a dog starts to learn, and so with your dog being

01:11:55.449 --> 01:11:58.890
as young as it is, when a dog starts to learn

01:11:58.890 --> 01:12:02.390
what no means, you start to get an increase in

01:12:02.390 --> 01:12:07.550
frustration when the dog's being faced with,

01:12:07.609 --> 01:12:09.989
this is what I want, and you're telling me I

01:12:09.989 --> 01:12:14.739
can't have it. That excitement, right, where

01:12:14.739 --> 01:12:17.100
the dog starts to ramp up is really based in

01:12:17.100 --> 01:12:20.000
frustration. And so there's a couple of different

01:12:20.000 --> 01:12:23.380
things that we can do. One, we can kind of control

01:12:23.380 --> 01:12:29.920
the whole situation with a leash right off the

01:12:29.920 --> 01:12:32.560
bat, right, with that drag line and us just kind

01:12:32.560 --> 01:12:35.579
of grabbing up that drag line and being like,

01:12:35.659 --> 01:12:38.800
no, no, we're going to. How about down? We're

01:12:38.800 --> 01:12:41.460
going to work on down. And then we can just kind

01:12:41.460 --> 01:12:46.340
of reward that like calm energy. Anytime we can

01:12:46.340 --> 01:12:49.840
reward for calm, we want to do that. And that

01:12:49.840 --> 01:12:52.920
will help to counteract some of that. If the

01:12:52.920 --> 01:12:55.960
dog is just like, no, no, I'm going to initiate

01:12:55.960 --> 01:13:00.020
this game. What I recommend that you do is based

01:13:00.020 --> 01:13:03.060
on your time and if the situation is appropriate,

01:13:03.220 --> 01:13:06.319
I recommend that owners initiate their own game.

01:13:06.840 --> 01:13:09.220
Right. Rather than playing the game that the

01:13:09.220 --> 01:13:13.020
dog wants to play, you take control of the whole

01:13:13.020 --> 01:13:17.279
situation and and embark on a different adventure.

01:13:17.640 --> 01:13:21.140
So that could be, hey, actually, we're going

01:13:21.140 --> 01:13:24.000
to go for a walk or, hey, actually, no, we're

01:13:24.000 --> 01:13:26.479
going to play this game over here with this with

01:13:26.479 --> 01:13:30.260
this object or no, we're going to go in the backyard

01:13:30.260 --> 01:13:36.060
or no, we're we're going to go. Now's some place

01:13:36.060 --> 01:13:41.060
time or crate time or whatever. Whatever it is,

01:13:41.159 --> 01:13:45.939
I just recommend that you own that decision and

01:13:45.939 --> 01:13:51.119
don't meet the dog at their level when they're

01:13:51.119 --> 01:13:55.920
just responding in a frustrated manner to you

01:13:55.920 --> 01:13:58.600
controlling your house. It's 100 % very much

01:13:58.600 --> 01:14:01.590
just a frustration. Yeah, I feel that. I feel

01:14:01.590 --> 01:14:03.569
that it is very much just him getting frustrated

01:14:03.569 --> 01:14:05.890
that, wait, now I can't do what I want to do.

01:14:06.010 --> 01:14:08.529
Exactly. And going back to the crate training,

01:14:08.670 --> 01:14:11.550
so what if, like, he gets the zoomies, so I tell

01:14:11.550 --> 01:14:13.310
him no, he gets the zoomies, he thinks it's a

01:14:13.310 --> 01:14:15.149
game, and then he nips a little bit, not hard,

01:14:15.250 --> 01:14:18.149
he's a little puppy. Would it be okay if I calmly

01:14:18.149 --> 01:14:20.189
took him and put him in the kennel at that point?

01:14:20.250 --> 01:14:24.029
No discipline or nothing like that. Should we

01:14:24.029 --> 01:14:26.130
go back to the crate training on that part? So

01:14:26.130 --> 01:14:28.069
if it's the zoomies, he's nipping, I can't really

01:14:28.069 --> 01:14:30.170
get him to play another game or I can't really

01:14:30.170 --> 01:14:33.270
get him to settle. Should that be when I just

01:14:33.270 --> 01:14:36.909
say, okay, buddy, let's go relax? Yes, 100 %

01:14:36.909 --> 01:14:41.130
yes. As long as you introduce that in a calm

01:14:41.130 --> 01:14:45.420
manner, you won't have an, you won't. create

01:14:45.420 --> 01:14:50.680
a bad habit you just can't be like ah you you

01:14:50.680 --> 01:14:54.199
bit at me or you you know you nipped at me and

01:14:54.199 --> 01:14:57.319
then you grab him and you kind of force him into

01:14:57.319 --> 01:15:01.800
a kennel instead i just recommend that you just

01:15:01.800 --> 01:15:05.779
take 10 seconds interact with him just enough

01:15:05.779 --> 01:15:09.460
that you've kind of taken the control of that

01:15:09.460 --> 01:15:11.539
situation and then you're like you know what

01:15:11.539 --> 01:15:17.399
i've got an idea let's go into our crate absolutely

01:15:17.399 --> 01:15:22.380
thank you so much but yeah you can definitely

01:15:22.380 --> 01:15:27.260
use that is the best times to use a crate for

01:15:27.260 --> 01:15:31.140
confinement right is like cool dogs ramping up

01:15:31.140 --> 01:15:35.579
and like that's not appropriate for this situation

01:15:35.579 --> 01:15:38.500
so we're going to institute some additional confinement

01:15:38.500 --> 01:15:43.920
so that then the dog can self -soothe and calm

01:15:43.920 --> 01:15:47.520
themselves down rather than you trying to like

01:15:47.520 --> 01:15:56.140
have to force them to. All right. Thank you so

01:15:56.140 --> 01:15:58.579
much. No problem. No problem. All right. I'm

01:15:58.579 --> 01:16:01.260
going to close it down if we don't have anything

01:16:01.260 --> 01:16:10.989
else. Give it about 10 seconds here. All right.

01:16:11.090 --> 01:16:14.189
I think that's it. So, um, thank you everybody

01:16:14.189 --> 01:16:17.189
for tuning in tonight. I really appreciate it.

01:16:17.229 --> 01:16:19.890
Thanks for being engaging and, uh, asking your

01:16:19.890 --> 01:16:26.149
questions. Um, as we are getting back on schedule

01:16:26.149 --> 01:16:28.630
here, uh, we had missed a couple of weeks, but

01:16:28.630 --> 01:16:30.310
we're back in the swing of things. We'll get

01:16:30.310 --> 01:16:33.750
these out pretty much every week. Um, Wednesdays

01:16:33.750 --> 01:16:36.670
is when we do our recordings Wednesdays at 7

01:16:36.670 --> 01:16:39.289
45 PM, just for everybody that's listening. This

01:16:39.289 --> 01:16:44.829
is a kind of our, targeted time um anyone who's

01:16:44.829 --> 01:16:47.449
tuning in after the fact uh feel free to leave

01:16:47.449 --> 01:16:50.310
us a comment leave us a like and uh leave us

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01:16:51.890 --> 01:16:56.449
you want to what you want to see um i think that's

01:16:56.449 --> 01:16:58.569
all i got brianna you got anything no that was

01:16:58.569 --> 01:17:03.569
a great one no all right guys we'll sign off

01:17:03.569 --> 01:17:04.270
from here good night