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Welcome to Pawprint Academy, your blueprint to

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raising better dogs. My name is Ryan, and I'll

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be your host for this journey. I've got my trusty

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co -host here, Brianna. Hello. And together,

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we're bringing you real -world training insights

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built on leadership, structure, and proven methods.

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We record this podcast with live clients on the

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line in one take with live unscripted questions

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and answers. At the end of the day, this podcast

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is a lot more than just teaching your dog to

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sit or stay. It's about... building trust creating

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calmness and becoming the kind of leader your

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dog truly needs we do that with our three pillar

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method of trust obey and perform together we'll

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show you how these three pillars shape every

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step of training thanks for being here let's

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get started Episode seven, puppy socialization.

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Doing it right without overwhelming your pup.

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I am super excited about this one tonight because

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puppies are so much fun. Puppies are super fun.

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So tonight we're going to talk about the way

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that we introduce our puppy to the world. it

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kind of sets the foundation for confidence and

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stability. And we talk about confidence and stability

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like there are these buzzwords, but proper socialization

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is about controlled positive exposure and not

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just throwing them into chaos, but to map out

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their early learning patterns. And so this one

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goes back and forth. It's like, well, how old

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is a puppy? But right off the bat, I'm going

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to go with it depends on the breed and it depends

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on their maturity. Similar to kids. You're going

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to have grown -ups that are still kids. Right,

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exactly. At heart. But when we're talking about

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dogs. Stand by. Did you figure it out? We're

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having a mic issue. brie's gonna keep working

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on that i'm gonna continue on so when we talk

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about uh once again these are the these are the

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dangers of doing it live in one take um okay

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i think i'm good are you alive now yeah i think

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so there we go okay it was just funny okay okay

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um continue on when uh how how old is a puppy

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so um So right off the bat, if I was going to

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define a puppy, I'd say 18 months or less. Yeah,

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for sure. This whole concept of like, well, there's

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still a puppy at two years. Well, they might

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still exhibit some puppy behavior at the two

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year mark, but I just, I just can't get behind

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that. Right. They're definitely growing out of

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all of their puppy habits by that point. Year

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and a half, that's where I call it at. But when

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we're talking about early exposure, that early

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exposure and how they're exposed to things and

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what they're exposed to, it absolutely shapes

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their lifelong behavior. I just did an eval for

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a little puppy that was 10 weeks old. The puppy

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is going to, just like all puppies, is going

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to exhibit all of these behaviors, but it's learning.

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And so if we don't show up in its life, in every

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interaction that it has, it is constantly learning,

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it's constantly testing. So you got to show up

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and you got to show up with that leadership and

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that stability and that consistency, which we've

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talked about many, many times. in every interaction

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they're seeing the same example yeah which is

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uh you want me to be calm or oh you want me to

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be um you know what you want me to do this you

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want me to do that we don't have to train the

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dog well so most owners don't need to focus on

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training their dog to be excited the dog's gonna

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figure that out on their own right we gotta train

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the dog to be calm um Now, when you're working

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with a working line breed, there is absolutely

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something to be said for developing their drive,

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right? Yeah, absolutely. That's really important.

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But a lot of owners develop plenty of drive on

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their own inadvertently, and then they don't

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know how to develop the other side of the coin.

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Yeah. And so that's what we're going to talk

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about. But in the terms of socialization. Socialization

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is often defined in people's minds as dogs meeting

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other dogs. But that's not the end of it. Puppies

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are most impressionable between eight and 16

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weeks. So we're talking that two month to four

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month time period where you are able to just

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pattern things and that puppy is going to. like

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figure that out and it's going to leave a lasting

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impression no matter what it is, good or bad.

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So very impressionable time. And positive experiences,

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they build resilience and they reduce future

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reactivity. The more positive experiences that

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the dog has in many different facets and different

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ways. it's going to increase the likelihood that

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the dog's not going to react out of fear or aggression

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or, um, some other like facet of the buzzword

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that we like to throw around reactivity. Okay.

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Just like a positive experience will shape their

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their life, a negative experience can absolutely

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shape their life. So it's really important. Go

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ahead. So let's give some examples. I don't know

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if that's in one of your questions, but like

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what are some examples? Because I think when

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we say positive and negative experiences, we

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understand what those are. Okay. But I don't

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think that everybody kind of understands what

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a positive experience is because all the time

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we kind of see people with their puppies out

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and they're like, yeah, this is great. Right,

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it's great for the owner, but not for the puppy.

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Oh, that's a really good point. And so one of

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the places we train at, brewery, super busy,

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almost all the time. When we take dogs to socialize,

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we're there like at opening. And not because

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we want like a beer at 11 a .m., but because

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we want to work with the dogs in an environment

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where there's not floods of people in the room,

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right? There's one, maybe two. They're spaced

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out. The place has plenty of room. There's outside,

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there's inside. Like we still have the ability

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to work the dog in, but there's not an overwhelming

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amount of people. There's almost never dogs there.

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And if so, like I said, there's plenty of room.

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All the time we see people there with puppies

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on the busiest nights of the week. One, that

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puppy is doing nothing but scanning all of these

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feet, like running by him, all of the hands reaching

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down for him, the dogs that are pulling over

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to them, different things like that. And so positive

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experiences to us are slow environments where

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you can go and you can sit down and you can relax

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with your dog. And maybe one person comes up

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and says, hey, can I pet your puppy? And you,

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at that point, if your dog is nice and relaxed,

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then maybe that works for you. Maybe you give

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them a piece of food and you say, yeah, sure.

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I'm actually working with them right now on socialization.

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Can you try giving them some food? That's a positive

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experience because that person is giving the

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dog something that it wants instead of just sticking

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their hand out and petting them. And maybe the

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dog doesn't want that. But it doesn't know how

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to communicate that yet because it's a puppy.

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Yeah. Another thing I'll throw out. So the next

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supporting point that I had written down was

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that controlled introductions matter more than

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the quantity of the introduction. Right. It's

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like going out to the brewery and passing your

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puppy around everybody for everyone to hold.

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Yep. Too much. Right. You don't need a hundred

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interactions. Right. You need ten solid ones.

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Yeah. Okay. So what I was going to add to that

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though. Is that just because we're shaping this

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conversation towards puppies doesn't mean that

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older dogs don't benefit from this as well. We're

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just talking about how with puppies, it's even

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more important because of that very, very impressionable

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like age and time frame. Yeah. But that does

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not mean that if you've got a dog that's outside

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of there and your dog is two or three or four

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or five, that they can't still learn and they

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can't still adjust by doing the same thing. Yeah,

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for sure. And that quality of that interaction

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is better than the quantity. Yeah. Okay, so what...

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So what would you say that the most important

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thing is to expose a young puppy to in the first

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few weeks when somebody goes to a shelter or

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they go to a breeder, they buy this cute little

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fuzzy creature who has no idea how to even walk

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on their own feet. What are you, if you went

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and got a dog tomorrow, don't do that. She lights

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up. She says she's already thinking about it

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in her head. I was reading about a foster German

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shepherd. Just kidding. Just kidding. Were you

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really? Because someone, someone. Yeah, I was

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reading it in our inbox. Oh, right. I was like,

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yeah, because someone just reached out. If, by

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the way, someone just reached out to, I was like,

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wait a second. That sounds familiar. Right. Someone

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reached out to us that they are looking for a.

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uh a forever home for a little german shepherd

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puppy or a foster i think or a foster situation

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at this point uh if you are interested hit us

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up right there's not a whole lot of information

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we have i don't have a lot female german just

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reached out on the business page and was like

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right that she can no longer care for she was

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a temporary foster can she claims that the dog

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has no issues Just that her cat does not like

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it. Right. Gets bullied by the cat. I don't know

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really what that means, but I'm sure people that

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have dogs and cats probably know what that means.

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But I don't know anything about cats. We have

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too many dogs. Right. All right. Back on track.

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But side note, yes. Back out of the rabbit hole.

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First, most important. What are you exposing

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to your your your brand new puppy that you get

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tomorrow? Yeah. What are you exposing it to first?

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Grooming methods. I'm going to start touching

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paws. I'm going to start touching. Yeah. Ears.

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I'm going to start like lifting gums. I'm going

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to start working them through that in a calm,

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relaxed way, which means like treating them through

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it. Basically, I grab their paw. I hold it. I

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give them a yes. And then I give them a piece

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of food and I'll work that through their breakfast.

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I'm going to work on like real world noises that

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go on in your house every day. The vacuum, the

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doorbell, people knocking, blenders. If you like

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make smoothies every morning, that's a tough

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one. People like don't realize and you turn on

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a blender and that's like one of the loudest

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pieces of machinery in your house. It wakes up

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humans. Right. If you do a lot of yard work,

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yard tools. for guys like all the crazy tools

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you have that make all those weird noises um

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so i don't know you you're not gonna name any

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of them right i don't even know what the ones

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are called that are super loud so whatever um

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but different things like that um riding in the

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car that's a really big one yeah um because a

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lot of puppies will get car sick and people are

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like oh my dog gets car sick i just won't take

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them in the car right you have to take your dog

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to the vet right i mean there's mobile vets don't

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get me wrong but at some point you're going to

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need your dog somewhere right you got to take

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your dog somewhere if you don't want to you're

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going to have to and so those are the things

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where when you get to those moments you don't

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want it to be the absolute hardest moment or

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the absolute worst experience for the dog right

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So those are my things. Right. A lot of times

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the dog gets sick, not just because of the movement,

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but because of all the extra things. It's a new

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sight, new sound, new feeling, new all of this

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stuff. And all of it together creates a situation

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where the dog gets sick. Right. Dexter, when

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we first got him was car sick. And so you just

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took him on tiny, short little drives. Short

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little drives. Yeah. And worked on him laying

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down in a kennel. Correct. So start with a very

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small kennel so they can't move around. Then

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you get a little bigger and a little bigger and

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then they stay in the back of the trunk and then

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they can move to a seat. It's exactly like everything

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else that we do in dog training. You start small

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and you build on it. I was just talking to a

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guy that was driving from Burgaw and that's like

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an hour drive or something like that. He said

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always at the same exact moment in Hampstead,

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which is halfway, the dog would get sick. I was

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like, just stop your car like five minutes before

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you know where that location is and let your

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dog out. Yeah. And then put them back in the

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car and finish your drive. I guarantee you that's

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going to help your problem. If not like completely

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eliminate the pattern. Yeah. And then after a

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while, once your dog gets used to it, then you

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can do the entire car ride. Love that advice.

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Just tiny steps. Okay. Um, so, uh, I, Wrote down

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to share an example of a dog whose behavior was

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shaped strongly by early socialization. My example

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is going to be Dexter. Yeah. Because I did a

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ton of shaping with different things. And now

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he's attached my hip. And doesn't listen to Brianna

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at all. Right, you trained him too hard. He listens.

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No, no, he listens. But sometimes he challenges

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me for sure. But he listens, but he's always

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looking for like, you're not my dad, where's

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my dad? Right. Right, you're definitely his safety

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net, his dad for sure. Yep. So just like you

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can shape all of those things, it is important

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to vary. the experiences right and one of those

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things has to also be the handler and and and

00:16:14.559 --> 00:16:16.980
who works with them the most right right but

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that's something like to honestly like touch

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on because we're dog trainers right and so everybody

00:16:22.659 --> 00:16:27.320
expects our dogs to be top notch for one dexter's

00:16:27.320 --> 00:16:32.919
only 12 months old yeah and for two a lot of

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it goes into his breed Because we've known and

00:16:36.769 --> 00:16:41.850
had him since he was born. And know his parents

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and know the genetics and know like the dad,

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super stable, really calm, relaxed, like service

00:16:47.509 --> 00:16:52.549
dog -like handler. Brianna was putting little

00:16:52.549 --> 00:16:55.450
Q -tips between his little paw pads when he was

00:16:55.450 --> 00:17:02.409
six days old. Yeah, so cute. And even like when...

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you saw them growing and growing and growing.

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Like you could tell the differences in temperament

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between those dogs. And that was just genetics,

00:17:08.829 --> 00:17:11.289
right? Because they weren't doing training at

00:17:11.289 --> 00:17:13.450
those ages. So you can genetically see the difference

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in those dogs. And as hard as we have always

00:17:17.609 --> 00:17:20.910
worked for Dexter to like develop and things

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like that, there's still things where genetically,

00:17:23.569 --> 00:17:27.490
like the dog isn't going to like that or adjust

00:17:27.490 --> 00:17:29.650
well to that. And you really have to like zone

00:17:29.650 --> 00:17:33.339
in on it and focus on it for a while. Yeah. Yep.

00:17:33.440 --> 00:17:37.259
Um, then control. So let's, let's talk about,

00:17:37.259 --> 00:17:42.660
um, controlled exposure, right? Um, usually controlled

00:17:42.660 --> 00:17:46.460
exposure beats. Uh, so let's talk about the terms

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first controlled exposure where we're going to

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limit the variables that the dog is going to

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have to process in a certain amount of time.

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Flooding is the opposite where we're going to

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bring in a whole bunch of variables all at the

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same time. So that the dog doesn't necessarily,

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can't process all of those things and to a certain

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degree has to kind of let go of control towards

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whatever it was that they were initially reactive

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to or scared of or et cetera. And as long as

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we follow with that flooding technique, as long

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as we also provide the dog a very safe interaction

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and show the dog. with that action that, see,

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you're still okay, you're still safe, nothing

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bad happened. Sometimes flooding, and I will

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say sometimes, sometimes flooding works very,

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very well. That being said, we typically try

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to avoid flooding. And the reason for that is

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because we can do a lot with flooding. Controlled

00:19:01.579 --> 00:19:05.259
exposure. It's not that flooding is an irrelevant

00:19:05.259 --> 00:19:07.759
technique. It's not that flooding is a dangerous

00:19:07.759 --> 00:19:10.759
technique, but it's not necessarily the right

00:19:10.759 --> 00:19:15.799
technique for every dog. Yeah. Controlled exposure

00:19:15.799 --> 00:19:25.059
is pretty good across almost all the dogs. We

00:19:25.059 --> 00:19:28.579
only use flooding when our controlled exposure

00:19:28.579 --> 00:19:31.400
really doesn't work. If that makes sense. Yeah.

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All right. So socialization doesn't really mean

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to just let your puppy meet everyone and everything

00:19:39.000 --> 00:19:43.980
all at once. Right. We want to control all those

00:19:43.980 --> 00:19:51.119
variables. So when we are providing a nice like

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just a few calm positive encounters that outweighs

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dozens of chaotic. flooding ones yeah because

00:20:02.509 --> 00:20:08.390
it patterns to the dog what to expect right and

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one thing that i want to mention is that even

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if you don't necessarily flood the dog something

00:20:15.349 --> 00:20:17.829
else could flood the dog right right yeah flooding

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isn't necessarily me me flooding the dog right

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so the perfect example is taking your dog to

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the dog park for the first time and you take

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your dog, little puppy, and you even go into

00:20:33.019 --> 00:20:35.480
the small dog side, right? That's fine. Your

00:20:35.480 --> 00:20:38.799
dog's a puppy. But if that dog park already has

00:20:38.799 --> 00:20:43.619
six dogs in it, and I've seen those dogs parks.

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We work outside of them. When a dog comes up,

00:20:46.660 --> 00:20:49.759
those dogs crowd the gate 100%. Right, because

00:20:49.759 --> 00:20:52.160
we want to see the new guy. Yeah, who's this?

00:20:52.220 --> 00:20:53.859
Who's this? Yeah, I haven't smelled this dog

00:20:53.859 --> 00:20:57.509
yet. Let me smell you. Right. The dog immediately

00:20:57.509 --> 00:21:01.170
is like, whoa, especially as a puppy, right?

00:21:01.250 --> 00:21:05.670
Because it's all new dogs. And one, your dog

00:21:05.670 --> 00:21:08.210
is either going to be somewhat nervous because

00:21:08.210 --> 00:21:11.430
they're being overcrowded and flooded by the

00:21:11.430 --> 00:21:15.009
amount of dogs in their face. Or two, they're

00:21:15.009 --> 00:21:18.829
going to be super excited and learn that running

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up to dogs and just meeting them at the fence

00:21:20.849 --> 00:21:25.369
is an amazing amount of like fun and overstimulation.

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So fun. And and that's that's how it begins.

00:21:29.829 --> 00:21:33.690
Right. Right. And so flooding in that like sense

00:21:33.690 --> 00:21:38.670
flooding or overexposure it often backfires and

00:21:38.670 --> 00:21:41.670
then it ends up just creating fear instead of

00:21:41.670 --> 00:21:44.049
confidence. Right. It's like you take your first.

00:21:44.569 --> 00:21:48.650
It can go well. Right. But it also can not. Right.

00:21:48.769 --> 00:21:51.440
And we always shoot for. Let's just make sure

00:21:51.440 --> 00:21:53.599
it's a good idea, right? Right. I really want

00:21:53.599 --> 00:21:57.579
to stack the cards in the favor of it going well.

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Right. It's just like, oh, such a good one just

00:22:00.099 --> 00:22:02.400
popped in my brain. I can think of metaphors

00:22:02.400 --> 00:22:05.759
and things all the time with these. It's just

00:22:05.759 --> 00:22:08.440
like wearing your seatbelt in a car, right? It's

00:22:08.440 --> 00:22:11.160
like you could get an accident or you could not

00:22:11.160 --> 00:22:14.200
if you're like going at a slow time of day. But

00:22:14.200 --> 00:22:18.200
regardless of whether you could or not. You should

00:22:18.200 --> 00:22:20.160
probably just put your seatbelt on. Take precautions.

00:22:20.579 --> 00:22:22.960
Just take precautions. Just be safer on the safer

00:22:22.960 --> 00:22:25.900
side than on the side of, you know, I don't know

00:22:25.900 --> 00:22:27.819
that anything's going to go wrong today. I don't

00:22:27.819 --> 00:22:30.380
think anything's going to go wrong today. But

00:22:30.380 --> 00:22:32.619
it takes one dog, and I just witnessed it two

00:22:32.619 --> 00:22:36.619
days ago at the dog park of a, it's a Great Dane

00:22:36.619 --> 00:22:39.400
Border Collie mix. Only dog I've ever seen like

00:22:39.400 --> 00:22:41.480
that. It looked like a Dr. Seuss character. I

00:22:41.480 --> 00:22:45.140
kid you not. It was a huge dog, but with fluffy

00:22:45.140 --> 00:22:50.109
ears. It was crazy. and a Husky. And the Husky

00:22:50.109 --> 00:22:52.390
had been at the dog park by himself for a while.

00:22:52.970 --> 00:22:55.430
And the Great Dane came in. Everything was fun

00:22:55.430 --> 00:22:58.849
and games until it wasn't. And the Husky was

00:22:58.849 --> 00:23:02.089
way too overbearing trying to like mount the

00:23:02.089 --> 00:23:04.829
Great Dane. And that dog was not having it, but

00:23:04.829 --> 00:23:06.430
it's big and goofy and doesn't know how to work

00:23:06.430 --> 00:23:08.609
its legs. So it was like flailing everywhere.

00:23:08.789 --> 00:23:10.910
And then the owners are over there trying to

00:23:10.910 --> 00:23:12.849
separate it. One of them was like taking a nap

00:23:12.849 --> 00:23:16.019
in the hammock. What? Had no, yeah. I don't even

00:23:16.019 --> 00:23:17.299
know why they have a hammock. It's the only time

00:23:17.299 --> 00:23:20.740
I've ever seen that, but it just turned chaotic

00:23:20.740 --> 00:23:25.420
so fast. And I was like, all right, time to go.

00:23:26.619 --> 00:23:31.559
Oh my goodness. Okay. So other than that, what

00:23:31.559 --> 00:23:34.160
are some everyday mistakes that you see owners

00:23:34.160 --> 00:23:36.720
make when they're trying to socialize their puppy?

00:23:37.420 --> 00:23:39.980
We talked about the brewery or just a public

00:23:39.980 --> 00:23:42.799
place where you take them when there's too much

00:23:42.799 --> 00:23:48.920
going on. Right. Because I, I, this isn't, I

00:23:48.920 --> 00:23:53.920
really want to reiterate this. We don't, we don't

00:23:53.920 --> 00:23:57.539
get on the mic each week and talk about this

00:23:57.539 --> 00:24:00.619
stuff in a way that we are trying to be like,

00:24:00.720 --> 00:24:03.279
no, no, no, no. We know the right way to do this

00:24:03.279 --> 00:24:07.220
and no one else does. We're also not like we,

00:24:07.259 --> 00:24:11.000
we're bringing this to you really as a teammate,

00:24:11.099 --> 00:24:15.259
as, as a team member. We want. everybody to succeed

00:24:15.259 --> 00:24:18.140
we want everyone to get better and so we talk

00:24:18.140 --> 00:24:20.900
about these things not not in a way that like

00:24:20.900 --> 00:24:23.980
we haven't made a lot of these mistakes we've

00:24:23.980 --> 00:24:26.039
we've done all of this and we've learned from

00:24:26.039 --> 00:24:27.920
it and so that's why we're sharing it with you

00:24:27.920 --> 00:24:31.920
so um bringing your dog out in public that is

00:24:31.920 --> 00:24:36.680
what the it's what everyone wants to do so that

00:24:36.680 --> 00:24:39.759
then their dog's not scared right they know that

00:24:39.759 --> 00:24:45.769
in their mind it's just that we We see it a lot

00:24:45.769 --> 00:24:50.950
where the dog is just overwhelmed by way too

00:24:50.950 --> 00:24:54.329
much going on way too fast. And so that's what

00:24:54.329 --> 00:24:57.109
we're talking about with that. What's another

00:24:57.109 --> 00:25:03.289
example? I think my two probably big ones are

00:25:03.289 --> 00:25:09.029
letting kids chase puppies. Right. So the catch

00:25:09.029 --> 00:25:11.769
me if you can game. Right. Going both ways. Right.

00:25:11.910 --> 00:25:15.809
Yeah. For sure. It's just a natural thing that

00:25:15.809 --> 00:25:18.289
like kids typically try to do is just like chase

00:25:18.289 --> 00:25:20.529
a puppy around because they like to run. And

00:25:20.529 --> 00:25:23.849
one, it can either scare the puppy or they can

00:25:23.849 --> 00:25:26.490
find a huge fun in it. And then you have a puppy

00:25:26.490 --> 00:25:28.130
that's stealing your things and running away

00:25:28.130 --> 00:25:30.569
because they want you to play with them. And

00:25:30.569 --> 00:25:34.009
I think the second one for me would probably

00:25:34.009 --> 00:25:40.160
be not paying attention to body language. A lot

00:25:40.160 --> 00:25:42.619
of times we look for like tail tucked. That's

00:25:42.619 --> 00:25:45.160
a really like big sign that your dog is uncomfortable.

00:25:46.359 --> 00:25:48.420
The whale eye that we talk about kind of like

00:25:48.420 --> 00:25:50.859
side eyeing things where their eyes are like,

00:25:50.859 --> 00:25:52.500
they look like they're like, oh my gosh, this

00:25:52.500 --> 00:25:56.700
is way too much. And also one that people don't

00:25:56.700 --> 00:25:58.799
really pick up on is like lip licking. If they're

00:25:58.799 --> 00:26:01.019
like flicking their tongue and like licking their

00:26:01.019 --> 00:26:03.480
lips a lot, it's not because their lips are dry.

00:26:03.559 --> 00:26:06.059
It's because they're stressed out. Itching. Itching

00:26:06.059 --> 00:26:08.000
is a big one. They're like, oh, my dog is itchy.

00:26:08.200 --> 00:26:11.750
Not itchy. yawning your dog is not tired your

00:26:11.750 --> 00:26:14.970
dog is stressed most of the time yeah puppies

00:26:14.970 --> 00:26:17.210
can be a little bit different because they are

00:26:17.210 --> 00:26:20.269
they do sleep a lot more so they can yawn a little

00:26:20.269 --> 00:26:24.049
bit more excessively than adult dogs because

00:26:24.049 --> 00:26:27.650
they are tired more often but a lot of the times

00:26:27.650 --> 00:26:30.849
that falls back to stress so i started doing

00:26:30.849 --> 00:26:33.309
something that really really helped me um and

00:26:33.309 --> 00:26:36.569
that was when i'm watching dog behavior and a

00:26:36.569 --> 00:26:39.710
dog like just sits down right where they are

00:26:39.710 --> 00:26:44.490
and they start itching or they like just randomly

00:26:44.490 --> 00:26:47.789
like yawn. I just say in my head, sometimes I

00:26:47.789 --> 00:26:52.150
even say it out loud. I just go stress. And when

00:26:52.150 --> 00:26:58.069
I, when I go like stressed, it helps my brain.

00:26:58.150 --> 00:27:02.630
Like, look, are they, does that fit? Are they

00:27:02.630 --> 00:27:05.680
stressed about something? And almost like nine

00:27:05.680 --> 00:27:07.680
times out of ten, I can point to what it would

00:27:07.680 --> 00:27:10.599
be. Right. And be like, oh, right. I just I just

00:27:10.599 --> 00:27:13.619
told it to sit or go to their place. And they

00:27:13.619 --> 00:27:15.180
like didn't really want to go to their place

00:27:15.180 --> 00:27:17.000
or they came off of their place. And I said,

00:27:17.039 --> 00:27:19.819
no place. And I put them back there and they

00:27:19.819 --> 00:27:22.299
went back and then they got there and then they

00:27:22.299 --> 00:27:24.660
like sit down and they're itching. Yeah. And

00:27:24.660 --> 00:27:27.740
it's like stress. Right. It's like humans when

00:27:27.740 --> 00:27:29.700
we like pick our fingernails or like twirl our

00:27:29.700 --> 00:27:33.119
hair. It's a sign of stress is. Are we going,

00:27:33.180 --> 00:27:34.960
hey, I'm stressed and biting our fingernails?

00:27:34.980 --> 00:27:36.980
No, we're just nonchalantly biting our fingernails.

00:27:37.000 --> 00:27:39.220
And sometimes we don't even understand that we're

00:27:39.220 --> 00:27:41.579
doing that. We don't even notice. We're like

00:27:41.579 --> 00:27:43.279
biting our lip and somebody's like, are you okay?

00:27:44.000 --> 00:27:46.119
Yeah, why? Because you're biting your lip. Oh,

00:27:46.200 --> 00:27:49.920
I didn't even realize. But if you really like

00:27:49.920 --> 00:27:53.019
were to deep dive it, you could probably figure

00:27:53.019 --> 00:27:56.019
out why in that moment and be like, oh, right.

00:27:56.160 --> 00:27:59.259
I have been kind of worried about this one thing.

00:27:59.400 --> 00:28:02.630
Yeah. Yeah. For sure. So it's just a trick that

00:28:02.630 --> 00:28:07.049
helps me to kind of, I guess, be more cognizant

00:28:07.049 --> 00:28:12.230
of what the dog is feeling. Yeah. And maybe they

00:28:12.230 --> 00:28:15.630
did just have an itch. That's fine. Right. We're

00:28:15.630 --> 00:28:17.829
not saying this is 100%. Maybe they just had

00:28:17.829 --> 00:28:20.630
an itch and you're like, I actually, I have no

00:28:20.630 --> 00:28:22.809
idea why they would be stressed. Like I literally

00:28:22.809 --> 00:28:25.599
just gave them a treat. Yeah. Um, cool. Maybe

00:28:25.599 --> 00:28:27.500
it was just an itch. Maybe they have fleas. I

00:28:27.500 --> 00:28:29.500
don't know. Yeah. It could be a lot of different

00:28:29.500 --> 00:28:31.579
things. Right. A lot of dogs have like dry skin

00:28:31.579 --> 00:28:33.960
in the winter, you know, and they need like oatmeal

00:28:33.960 --> 00:28:37.519
shampoo baths or whatever. Like there's all sorts

00:28:37.519 --> 00:28:40.859
of things, but just be aware of what your dog's

00:28:40.859 --> 00:28:42.819
doing and just be like, Oh, they itched. And

00:28:42.819 --> 00:28:46.140
if you see it in another weird situation and

00:28:46.140 --> 00:28:48.240
it's not typical, be like, Oh, that's weird.

00:28:48.279 --> 00:28:52.490
They itched. So what would you set up? To be

00:28:52.490 --> 00:28:56.250
like a controlled exposure for a puppy. Oh, put

00:28:56.250 --> 00:28:58.990
that puppy on a leash when people come over.

00:28:59.690 --> 00:29:03.849
Right. Don't give it the ability to just charge

00:29:03.849 --> 00:29:07.130
the door. Don't do it. It's the worst habit.

00:29:07.190 --> 00:29:11.369
And it's, I understand it for sure, but it builds

00:29:11.369 --> 00:29:15.369
so much drive in the dog to do that so quickly.

00:29:16.430 --> 00:29:18.589
Right, because it's super self -gratifying. So

00:29:18.589 --> 00:29:20.470
self -gratifying. It's like, yeah, I get to go

00:29:20.470 --> 00:29:21.589
see these people. Like they're leaping into their

00:29:21.589 --> 00:29:23.430
arms. It's like when your kid runs up to you

00:29:23.430 --> 00:29:25.849
after like their first day of daycare and they're

00:29:25.849 --> 00:29:29.049
like, mom or dad. And they're like, yeah. And

00:29:29.049 --> 00:29:31.430
you just like open your arms and like grab them.

00:29:31.549 --> 00:29:34.430
Tons of excitement. Like, oh yeah, I am so excited

00:29:34.430 --> 00:29:41.130
to see you. Yeah. For sure. Okay. Socialization

00:29:41.130 --> 00:29:46.549
continues beyond puppyhood though. And so. It's

00:29:46.549 --> 00:29:48.910
really, it has to become like part of the dog's

00:29:48.910 --> 00:29:51.029
lifestyle. It's not really just something that

00:29:51.029 --> 00:29:55.329
we can do just when they're a puppy. Puppy socialization,

00:29:55.450 --> 00:29:59.809
super, super, super important. But dog socialization

00:29:59.809 --> 00:30:03.990
in general, equally as important. It never stops,

00:30:04.109 --> 00:30:08.470
right? And I can think of a whole bunch of ways

00:30:08.470 --> 00:30:14.690
that like you can socialize, quote unquote, your

00:30:14.690 --> 00:30:17.180
dog. You can take them places. You can have them

00:30:17.180 --> 00:30:19.039
meet people. You can have them meet dogs. You

00:30:19.039 --> 00:30:21.940
can have them not meet dogs. That one's really

00:30:21.940 --> 00:30:23.740
important. We do that in our group class all

00:30:23.740 --> 00:30:27.440
the time. Our number one rule at the group class

00:30:27.440 --> 00:30:32.700
is none of the dogs are allowed to meet. It's

00:30:32.700 --> 00:30:35.500
like, how are they going to socialize? They're

00:30:35.500 --> 00:30:39.960
socializing. They smell all those dogs. We walk

00:30:39.960 --> 00:30:42.539
them past the dogs all the time, but we're just

00:30:42.539 --> 00:30:45.319
not going to let them actually get Nose to nose.

00:30:46.240 --> 00:30:55.660
And it's not about anything other than creating

00:30:55.660 --> 00:30:58.859
the other side of the coin. You've got to balance

00:30:58.859 --> 00:31:01.740
it. Most dogs, when they get to be around other

00:31:01.740 --> 00:31:04.900
dogs, they get to play with those dogs. So when

00:31:04.900 --> 00:31:07.119
are you going to show them that sometimes they

00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:10.579
don't? And most people don't have other dogs

00:31:10.579 --> 00:31:13.839
that they can do that with. And so we do it in

00:31:13.839 --> 00:31:18.369
the group class. Yeah. That's why. All right.

00:31:19.690 --> 00:31:23.630
Continued exposure helps prevent regression.

00:31:24.609 --> 00:31:27.029
Regression. So when I wrote down this point,

00:31:27.130 --> 00:31:30.589
regression is this thing that everyone's like

00:31:30.589 --> 00:31:35.269
super scared of. Right. Because. Cool. I worked

00:31:35.269 --> 00:31:38.390
on this for like six weeks and it was going really,

00:31:38.450 --> 00:31:40.490
really well. But then I took a break and things

00:31:40.490 --> 00:31:45.009
got busy. And now I. Tried it again and suddenly

00:31:45.009 --> 00:31:51.410
my dog's super reactive again. Right? Consistency

00:31:51.410 --> 00:31:56.210
is key. Unfortunately, there's no perfect solution

00:31:56.210 --> 00:32:00.529
to that other than those little bits. It is much

00:32:00.529 --> 00:32:02.470
more important, and we talked about this in the

00:32:02.470 --> 00:32:04.769
consistency episode, but it is much more important

00:32:04.769 --> 00:32:09.150
to get those repetitions of that, even in short,

00:32:09.230 --> 00:32:13.720
tiny little durations, than it is to... Add up,

00:32:13.759 --> 00:32:17.859
you know, I worked on this all day. Much more

00:32:17.859 --> 00:32:23.180
important. Dogs that only see the same environment

00:32:23.180 --> 00:32:29.660
may develop new fears later on when they go into

00:32:29.660 --> 00:32:33.480
these other environments. And so we can avoid

00:32:33.480 --> 00:32:38.140
that by showing the dogs more and more and more.

00:32:38.440 --> 00:32:44.839
As much... new things and places and stuff that

00:32:44.839 --> 00:32:48.259
we can when they're younger it's impossible to

00:32:48.259 --> 00:32:51.359
introduce the dog to every single thing that's

00:32:51.359 --> 00:32:55.039
out there right it really is so the unfortunate

00:32:55.039 --> 00:32:58.380
reality is yeah your dog's gonna have some negative

00:32:58.380 --> 00:33:01.279
experiences they're definitely going to see some

00:33:01.279 --> 00:33:03.680
things they're like ah i'm scared of that yeah

00:33:03.680 --> 00:33:08.019
but when you realize that take a moment take

00:33:08.019 --> 00:33:12.000
the opportunity to work through that so that

00:33:12.000 --> 00:33:15.000
then the dog sees this is not so much of an issue

00:33:15.000 --> 00:33:19.660
all right let's let's highlight that so um right

00:33:19.660 --> 00:33:25.440
now in the uh where we are in the season is uh

00:33:25.440 --> 00:33:29.779
we have dogs that um that we work with that are

00:33:29.779 --> 00:33:33.269
super scared of the halloween decorations I mean,

00:33:33.289 --> 00:33:36.089
every dog right now is triggered by the fake

00:33:36.089 --> 00:33:38.410
cats in the yard that you guys have pulled out.

00:33:38.490 --> 00:33:41.049
There's multiple houses in our neighborhood with

00:33:41.049 --> 00:33:44.049
the fake cats, the same fake cats in their yard,

00:33:44.170 --> 00:33:47.069
all over their yard. There's like nine of them.

00:33:47.130 --> 00:33:49.289
First of all, why are there so many of them?

00:33:49.589 --> 00:33:51.990
They obviously came in a pack because both yards

00:33:51.990 --> 00:33:56.029
have so many cats. And now that I hate it, I

00:33:56.029 --> 00:33:58.849
love the opportunity. Right, but those dogs do

00:33:58.849 --> 00:34:01.230
not like that. They don't love them. They're

00:34:01.230 --> 00:34:02.549
two -dimensional flat cats. One dog is like,

00:34:02.609 --> 00:34:06.569
what is that? At nighttime, they look kind of

00:34:06.569 --> 00:34:09.590
real also. I walked by one last night and I was

00:34:09.590 --> 00:34:12.289
like, that one would get me even as a human.

00:34:12.969 --> 00:34:16.630
And so it's great exposure, but what I want people

00:34:16.630 --> 00:34:19.670
to realize is that if you walk by that cat and

00:34:19.670 --> 00:34:22.989
your dog like jumps or is like, oh, what is that?

00:34:23.050 --> 00:34:26.050
Or walks to the other side of you, you now have

00:34:26.050 --> 00:34:29.989
to stop. And you have to go back to those cats

00:34:29.989 --> 00:34:32.090
and you either have to do some laps back and

00:34:32.090 --> 00:34:34.110
forth until your dog is relaxed or you have to

00:34:34.110 --> 00:34:36.829
sit by them. Right. And you have to let them

00:34:36.829 --> 00:34:39.590
work through that stress because if that item

00:34:39.590 --> 00:34:42.230
stresses them out and they just walk by it and

00:34:42.230 --> 00:34:46.230
keep on going, they're going to just learn that

00:34:46.230 --> 00:34:49.750
that item was scary and I panicked a little bit

00:34:49.750 --> 00:34:52.190
and we just kept on going. You have to show them

00:34:52.190 --> 00:34:54.510
sometimes that things aren't what they think

00:34:54.510 --> 00:34:57.190
it is. Yeah. We walked by a pumpkin the other

00:34:57.190 --> 00:34:58.849
day and the dog I was walking was like, whoa,

00:34:59.050 --> 00:35:02.090
what is that? And I was like, go, go, go sit

00:35:02.090 --> 00:35:04.510
by it. Go sit by it. And she like sniffed it

00:35:04.510 --> 00:35:05.849
and she was like, I don't know what this is,

00:35:05.909 --> 00:35:08.329
but I guess it's not going to bite me. Right.

00:35:09.090 --> 00:35:11.210
So those are the things that you have to be willing

00:35:11.210 --> 00:35:13.250
to do is like work your dog through it. Be like,

00:35:13.289 --> 00:35:16.010
just go over and sniff it. You touch it. Right.

00:35:16.309 --> 00:35:19.210
So there was a, there was a good video on, um,

00:35:19.949 --> 00:35:24.250
alligator mom had a good video on Facebook on.

00:35:25.159 --> 00:35:28.480
because of halloween it was this little ghost

00:35:28.480 --> 00:35:31.659
like stuffed animal hello hello thing that was

00:35:31.659 --> 00:35:35.599
on a couch and her little malinois was like absolutely

00:35:35.599 --> 00:35:39.519
not i'm not dealing with that thing and um she

00:35:39.519 --> 00:35:43.239
was talking about how it's that is fine because

00:35:43.239 --> 00:35:45.639
it's an opportunity for them to learn yeah and

00:35:45.639 --> 00:35:50.539
so as they're scared of it you don't go in and

00:35:50.539 --> 00:35:53.179
coddle them. You don't go in and tell them, no,

00:35:53.179 --> 00:35:55.460
no, it's okay, it's okay, it's okay. No, you

00:35:55.460 --> 00:36:00.239
just stand there, check out, but at the moment

00:36:00.239 --> 00:36:05.079
where they take an opportunity, instead of being

00:36:05.079 --> 00:36:08.300
fearful, where they get curious, that's where

00:36:08.300 --> 00:36:11.039
you jump in. At the moment where they're like,

00:36:12.099 --> 00:36:15.519
well, what is this thing? That's where you jump

00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:19.000
in with that leadership to show them, yeah, yeah.

00:36:19.420 --> 00:36:22.920
Check it out. Look at it. Get close to it. Sniff

00:36:22.920 --> 00:36:27.719
it. And then they figure out. And in this case,

00:36:27.800 --> 00:36:31.300
their little Malinois figured out that, oh, I

00:36:31.300 --> 00:36:35.440
can bite this thing. And then she engaged the

00:36:35.440 --> 00:36:38.599
toy with them. And now it was a fun thing. It

00:36:38.599 --> 00:36:40.780
was like, ah, cool. I'm not scared of that anymore.

00:36:41.019 --> 00:36:46.340
Yeah. Yeah. Just as an example. But I felt like

00:36:46.340 --> 00:36:50.199
it applied. Yeah, for sure. We have no affiliation

00:36:50.199 --> 00:36:56.940
with Malligator Mom, just so you know. What else

00:36:56.940 --> 00:37:00.500
do I got written down here? Lifelong confidence.

00:37:01.920 --> 00:37:05.739
It comes from steady, varied experiences. It

00:37:05.739 --> 00:37:08.539
is time consuming and it's not done overnight.

00:37:08.920 --> 00:37:14.340
So you have to be patient. It's just about racking

00:37:14.340 --> 00:37:18.849
up those slow, consistent events. that take place

00:37:18.849 --> 00:37:21.869
naturally throughout the dog's life. We're going

00:37:21.869 --> 00:37:25.090
to react to these things the same way, day in

00:37:25.090 --> 00:37:28.289
and day out, as they learn and figure these things

00:37:28.289 --> 00:37:30.630
out. Right. And I think a lot of people get stuck

00:37:30.630 --> 00:37:33.070
on going to like one place and being like, well,

00:37:33.130 --> 00:37:35.690
I'm exposing my dog. I'm exposing my dog. It's

00:37:35.690 --> 00:37:37.530
like the brewery because it's the most dog friendly.

00:37:38.150 --> 00:37:40.190
And you can just go up there and sit for like

00:37:40.190 --> 00:37:42.969
hours with your friends, right? But that's not

00:37:42.969 --> 00:37:45.030
necessarily always like what you need to be doing

00:37:45.030 --> 00:37:48.550
for people that don't know. like stores that

00:37:48.550 --> 00:37:50.409
are dog friendly it's like dick sporting goods

00:37:50.409 --> 00:37:57.710
academy um hobby lobby uh was it home goods yeah

00:37:57.710 --> 00:38:01.050
home goods home goods um lowes home depot tractor

00:38:01.050 --> 00:38:05.150
supply um those are stores that a lot of people

00:38:05.150 --> 00:38:07.530
don't know about on top of all the restaurants

00:38:07.530 --> 00:38:10.110
and coffee shops and things like that but those

00:38:10.110 --> 00:38:12.429
are places most restaurants that have outdoor

00:38:12.429 --> 00:38:14.889
seating will let you have dogs in the outdoor

00:38:14.889 --> 00:38:17.699
seating right and those are places that you can

00:38:17.699 --> 00:38:21.699
go that you don't see 25 dogs, right? There's

00:38:21.699 --> 00:38:25.739
hardly any dogs. I've never seen a dog in Dick's

00:38:25.739 --> 00:38:27.940
Sporting Goods, but was I there with a dog? Yeah,

00:38:28.280 --> 00:38:32.019
for sure. I was. And I called ahead of time and

00:38:32.019 --> 00:38:34.059
made sure it was fine. And they're like, yeah,

00:38:34.099 --> 00:38:35.760
because as long as they don't, you know, pee

00:38:35.760 --> 00:38:39.809
on anything or eat anything. And those are the

00:38:39.809 --> 00:38:41.829
places that are really good exposure for puppies

00:38:41.829 --> 00:38:43.610
because you're not overstimulating them with

00:38:43.610 --> 00:38:46.449
things. It's a huge store. I don't think I've

00:38:46.449 --> 00:38:48.590
ever been in to one of those places when it's

00:38:48.590 --> 00:38:50.710
been like, oh, there's people like all over.

00:38:50.809 --> 00:38:52.769
I can't get down any aisles. So there's tons

00:38:52.769 --> 00:38:55.449
of room to move and just walk around for a bit,

00:38:55.550 --> 00:39:00.510
hang out, and then you can leave. Yep. Love that.

00:39:00.750 --> 00:39:02.929
You don't even have to have a vest for your dog.

00:39:03.210 --> 00:39:04.909
Right. Yeah. You don't have to have a, yeah,

00:39:04.949 --> 00:39:06.510
it doesn't have to be a service dog thing. It's

00:39:06.510 --> 00:39:12.539
not a service dog thing at all. Nope. What's

00:39:12.539 --> 00:39:15.099
a creative way that you would expose like an

00:39:15.099 --> 00:39:17.260
older dog to things without like overwhelming

00:39:17.260 --> 00:39:24.639
them? Distance. Right. For sure. For sure. The

00:39:24.639 --> 00:39:30.539
thing. So I teach this in in our in our six week

00:39:30.539 --> 00:39:33.760
immersion course is like the last lesson. I like

00:39:33.760 --> 00:39:37.340
to go out in public. Right. And actually like

00:39:37.340 --> 00:39:41.280
teach clients, okay, this is how I take my dog

00:39:41.280 --> 00:39:43.860
out. Yeah. And this is, this is the process because

00:39:43.860 --> 00:39:47.980
no matter where you go, your, your dog's at some

00:39:47.980 --> 00:39:49.500
point going to see something that's going to

00:39:49.500 --> 00:39:53.840
get them either riled up or like in a frustrated

00:39:53.840 --> 00:39:57.960
way or in an excited way. Yeah. Or in a fearful

00:39:57.960 --> 00:40:03.000
way. And we can kind of like damper that we can,

00:40:03.000 --> 00:40:09.349
we can, um, alleviate that if we go slowly and

00:40:09.349 --> 00:40:12.070
kind of work through it right so we get out of

00:40:12.070 --> 00:40:14.429
the car we go straight to go to the bathroom

00:40:14.429 --> 00:40:17.289
and then we start at a distance and we start

00:40:17.289 --> 00:40:20.170
closing that distance slowly and if we get too

00:40:20.170 --> 00:40:22.929
close to something that is triggering for whatever

00:40:22.929 --> 00:40:25.429
reason we just incorporate additional distance

00:40:25.429 --> 00:40:28.010
right and if you're working with an older dog

00:40:28.010 --> 00:40:30.349
or a super fearful dog it's like you can just

00:40:30.349 --> 00:40:33.110
go to the parking lot you don't have to go inside

00:40:33.110 --> 00:40:37.559
i think people set a goal in their mind when

00:40:37.559 --> 00:40:40.139
they take their dog out that they're gonna go

00:40:40.139 --> 00:40:43.639
to Lowe's they're gonna walk through like even

00:40:43.639 --> 00:40:46.579
certain aisles or through certain sections or

00:40:46.579 --> 00:40:49.699
you know do one lap around the store and go from

00:40:49.699 --> 00:40:51.539
inside to outside and then we're gonna leave

00:40:51.539 --> 00:40:56.539
yeah but if your dog is stressed when you get

00:40:56.539 --> 00:40:59.400
them out of the car they're gonna be stressed

00:40:59.400 --> 00:41:02.389
the entire time you're in that store yeah And

00:41:02.389 --> 00:41:06.429
they're going to be stressed and excited to get

00:41:06.429 --> 00:41:09.389
away from that stressor, which is the store,

00:41:09.489 --> 00:41:13.849
to get back to the car. And so you have to start

00:41:13.849 --> 00:41:16.789
at the very beginning of that process. And that's

00:41:16.789 --> 00:41:19.769
getting out of the car sometimes. For some dogs

00:41:19.769 --> 00:41:22.550
that are overwhelmed outside and so overstimulated

00:41:22.550 --> 00:41:26.050
that as soon as we have clients sometimes be

00:41:26.050 --> 00:41:28.570
like, as soon as I take them outside, they're

00:41:28.570 --> 00:41:30.989
stressed. You got to start at the front door

00:41:30.989 --> 00:41:33.460
then. Right. Inside the front door with the front

00:41:33.460 --> 00:41:35.840
door open. Smaller step. Maybe you have to start

00:41:35.840 --> 00:41:38.380
with the front door cracked, but you have to

00:41:38.380 --> 00:41:41.920
take such baby steps sometimes that I think people

00:41:41.920 --> 00:41:45.420
set really big goals and sometimes it can be

00:41:45.420 --> 00:41:50.920
counterintuitive in how it works for the dog

00:41:50.920 --> 00:41:54.340
based on how they are. And if you're at like

00:41:54.340 --> 00:41:56.340
a puppy stage, that's totally different, right?

00:41:56.420 --> 00:41:58.360
Because most of the time they're excited to go

00:41:58.360 --> 00:42:00.179
new places as long as they're not too like big,

00:42:00.219 --> 00:42:03.760
loud and scary. But for older dogs that also

00:42:03.760 --> 00:42:06.119
like maybe they're fearful, those are going to

00:42:06.119 --> 00:42:08.320
be the tiny like little exposure steps that you

00:42:08.320 --> 00:42:15.079
have to take. Michael and Heidi asked, what are

00:42:15.079 --> 00:42:18.940
the pros and cons of having a puppy visit and

00:42:18.940 --> 00:42:23.559
free play in a fenced area with Maverick? Is

00:42:23.559 --> 00:42:26.179
it a... puppy that they're going to be exposed

00:42:26.179 --> 00:42:29.460
to repeatedly would be one question of mine but

00:42:29.460 --> 00:42:36.940
i think if if it's a dog that they're going to

00:42:36.940 --> 00:42:39.260
meet over and over and it's going to be coming

00:42:39.260 --> 00:42:41.699
into their territory over and over i have no

00:42:41.699 --> 00:42:44.590
problem with two puppies meeting Especially if

00:42:44.590 --> 00:42:46.929
I know the temperament, which most puppies, if

00:42:46.929 --> 00:42:50.809
they're genetically sound and haven't had any

00:42:50.809 --> 00:42:53.289
terrible experiences, are generally going to

00:42:53.289 --> 00:42:59.110
be happy, excited puppies. But I would also say

00:42:59.110 --> 00:43:02.369
there's a cap on the age of which I will let

00:43:02.369 --> 00:43:04.349
a puppy do that because some puppies get real

00:43:04.349 --> 00:43:06.929
big, real fast. It's like, what's the size difference

00:43:06.929 --> 00:43:09.090
of those puppies? What's the energy difference

00:43:09.090 --> 00:43:11.409
in those puppies? Are they both ready to like

00:43:11.409 --> 00:43:16.159
go at it? Right. And once you start that process

00:43:16.159 --> 00:43:18.699
and they're already playing, are they going to

00:43:18.699 --> 00:43:21.039
listen to you when you ask them to cut it out?

00:43:21.519 --> 00:43:24.340
Right. So a lot of times like starting on a leash

00:43:24.340 --> 00:43:26.880
is a really good option for that because it gives

00:43:26.880 --> 00:43:29.019
you some like leeway and some leverage to kind

00:43:29.019 --> 00:43:31.619
of like step on it, pull the dogs back if you

00:43:31.619 --> 00:43:34.820
need to. But if we're talking about puppies and

00:43:34.820 --> 00:43:36.880
they're going to be repeatedly exposed to that

00:43:36.880 --> 00:43:40.480
dog, I generally am like, yeah. Just like let

00:43:40.480 --> 00:43:42.679
them go, let them play. And if you need to like

00:43:42.679 --> 00:43:48.719
just end it. Right. So the pros are it it can.

00:43:50.239 --> 00:43:54.260
It can lead to very successful interactions that

00:43:54.260 --> 00:43:57.059
are very gratifying to both dogs. Yeah. Right.

00:43:58.079 --> 00:44:01.179
And honestly, that's. probably the best case

00:44:01.179 --> 00:44:02.980
and that's why you would want to do it right

00:44:02.980 --> 00:44:06.039
is because cool the dogs get to run around and

00:44:06.039 --> 00:44:08.539
they get to socialize and they get to figure

00:44:08.539 --> 00:44:12.440
out who's who where it goes wrong is usually

00:44:12.440 --> 00:44:17.219
when you lose all control of the situation yeah

00:44:17.219 --> 00:44:24.579
and now the dogs can increase their um they can

00:44:24.579 --> 00:44:27.829
both increase their excitement levels and play

00:44:27.829 --> 00:44:32.269
off of each other to continue to spiral and increase

00:44:32.269 --> 00:44:36.090
the excitement levels till such time as they

00:44:36.090 --> 00:44:39.369
no longer, they have so much value. You've, you've

00:44:39.369 --> 00:44:42.630
brought such high value to their life in that

00:44:42.630 --> 00:44:48.750
moment that now when you say, Hey, come or Hey,

00:44:48.809 --> 00:44:51.650
knock it off or Hey, let's go inside or whatever.

00:44:51.730 --> 00:44:55.050
They're like, nah, don't care. Right. Because

00:44:55.050 --> 00:44:58.500
then you've now created, And the tricky part

00:44:58.500 --> 00:45:03.800
is you haven't created a bad situation until

00:45:03.800 --> 00:45:06.300
you've now told them to do something. Right,

00:45:06.300 --> 00:45:08.760
until you've given a command. And at that point,

00:45:08.860 --> 00:45:13.940
now you're teetering on a problem area. Because

00:45:13.940 --> 00:45:16.840
now they're so engaged to each other and they

00:45:16.840 --> 00:45:21.239
have so much value. You have lost value because

00:45:21.239 --> 00:45:24.460
they're so excited and so engaged and they don't

00:45:24.460 --> 00:45:29.099
want to. Stop that interaction. So now you say

00:45:29.099 --> 00:45:33.280
something and now you are bound to hold them

00:45:33.280 --> 00:45:37.739
accountable. Right. But you can't. And they don't

00:45:37.739 --> 00:45:41.639
care because they have all the value that they

00:45:41.639 --> 00:45:46.320
need. Yeah. And that is where I go. Well, we

00:45:46.320 --> 00:45:48.980
can avoid that in a couple different ways. We

00:45:48.980 --> 00:45:52.619
can maintain accountability by dogs dragging

00:45:52.619 --> 00:45:54.940
a line. Yeah. We can maintain accountability.

00:45:55.719 --> 00:45:59.460
By using an e -collar. We can maintain accountability.

00:45:59.699 --> 00:46:03.440
By limiting their interaction. And not giving

00:46:03.440 --> 00:46:08.420
them full freedom. To engage each other. But.

00:46:09.179 --> 00:46:13.960
I wouldn't see. Maverick specifically. Is a pretty

00:46:13.960 --> 00:46:18.380
happy go lucky dog. Right. He's not. He's not

00:46:18.380 --> 00:46:24.280
really dog reactive. He enjoys. being around

00:46:24.280 --> 00:46:26.280
other dogs. Right. Uh, we definitely saw that

00:46:26.280 --> 00:46:28.360
at the group class, but he's for sure. Like,

00:46:28.420 --> 00:46:30.079
Hey, Hey, my name's Maverick. What's your name?

00:46:31.059 --> 00:46:35.360
Yes, that's him. Uh, but he's not reactive in

00:46:35.360 --> 00:46:38.400
a overbearing way. He doesn't take other dogs.

00:46:38.480 --> 00:46:43.360
Uh, he doesn't really like try to dominate the

00:46:43.360 --> 00:46:47.860
interaction. He doesn't respect other dogs space

00:46:47.860 --> 00:46:51.190
though, either. Right. Right. Yeah. Right. It's

00:46:51.190 --> 00:46:54.170
a work in progress, which it is for all dogs.

00:46:54.250 --> 00:46:59.710
So to Heidi and Michael, those are the things

00:46:59.710 --> 00:47:05.510
that I would worry. So as you guys are the owners

00:47:05.510 --> 00:47:13.030
of Maverick, I would worry less about how that

00:47:13.030 --> 00:47:17.110
puppy is probably going to interact or negatively

00:47:17.110 --> 00:47:20.730
affect. And I would be a little more concerned

00:47:20.730 --> 00:47:25.650
about how Maverick's behavior could negatively

00:47:25.650 --> 00:47:29.809
affect the puppy's behavior. Yeah. Right. Because

00:47:29.809 --> 00:47:33.210
if Maverick and the puppy get along really, really

00:47:33.210 --> 00:47:37.750
well, that puppy is going to look up to Maverick

00:47:37.750 --> 00:47:42.329
significantly more and take on whatever Maverick's

00:47:42.329 --> 00:47:45.690
behaviors are. Yeah. More so than Maverick probably

00:47:45.690 --> 00:47:48.710
will the puppy. Right. For sure. And I also think

00:47:48.710 --> 00:47:52.530
that's a natural. When we like match dogs to

00:47:52.530 --> 00:47:56.730
play, we typically try to match energies. Yes.

00:47:56.929 --> 00:48:01.190
Not necessarily even sizes. My two. So four dogs

00:48:01.190 --> 00:48:05.110
combined. I've got I've got two bundles of dogs

00:48:05.110 --> 00:48:06.849
that I like to let out of time because I don't

00:48:06.849 --> 00:48:08.710
like to overwhelm myself and let four dogs out

00:48:08.710 --> 00:48:11.769
of time. It's too much. Right. I get it. It's

00:48:11.769 --> 00:48:15.880
too much. So I like to do. Our biggest, most

00:48:15.880 --> 00:48:20.860
rambunctious, Dexter, and little Frenchie checkers.

00:48:21.340 --> 00:48:24.099
They're my favorite combo. They will get out

00:48:24.099 --> 00:48:26.179
there and they will chase each other around.

00:48:26.340 --> 00:48:29.739
And he's super gentle with her out of all the

00:48:29.739 --> 00:48:33.079
dogs. So gentle with her. He'll like push her

00:48:33.079 --> 00:48:35.300
with his nose and she's like, oh, I'm on my back.

00:48:35.780 --> 00:48:38.579
And they're the most like relaxed combo. And

00:48:38.579 --> 00:48:40.219
they will disengage, go to the bathroom, and

00:48:40.219 --> 00:48:41.539
they're like, hey, we're ready to come in now.

00:48:41.679 --> 00:48:44.219
Yep. And they'll just stand next to each other.

00:48:44.320 --> 00:48:45.500
Yeah, they'll just stand next to each other.

00:48:45.559 --> 00:48:48.320
Great energies together. Nala and Dexter, I like

00:48:48.320 --> 00:48:50.400
to match them together because they're both super

00:48:50.400 --> 00:48:52.659
high energy. So they're going to wear each other

00:48:52.659 --> 00:48:55.780
out. They're going to like go at it, have all

00:48:55.780 --> 00:48:59.780
the fun in the world. Or. At the expense of the

00:48:59.780 --> 00:49:02.400
lawn. At the expense of grass. There's no grass

00:49:02.400 --> 00:49:06.000
left. There's grass. We have baby grass growing

00:49:06.000 --> 00:49:08.659
finally. Constant. Constant work in progress.

00:49:08.739 --> 00:49:11.280
Constant grass eating. I've never bought so much

00:49:11.280 --> 00:49:15.940
grass. But anyways, and I will tell you like

00:49:15.940 --> 00:49:19.000
the, the worst two would be like Dexter and Gabe,

00:49:19.079 --> 00:49:21.920
both the boys that they just get out there. Dexter

00:49:21.920 --> 00:49:23.980
likes to chase Gabe. Gabe's like, no, I don't

00:49:23.980 --> 00:49:27.239
like that. And then it's like, oh my gosh, guys,

00:49:27.400 --> 00:49:31.170
come on. So it's not that. Every dog is going

00:49:31.170 --> 00:49:33.090
to get along and want to play with every dog.

00:49:33.289 --> 00:49:35.590
It's just not going to happen. We don't like

00:49:35.590 --> 00:49:37.510
every person and we don't want to go to dinner

00:49:37.510 --> 00:49:40.750
with everyone we meet. And if I don't want to,

00:49:40.809 --> 00:49:43.269
I'm not going to. But sometimes we put dogs in

00:49:43.269 --> 00:49:45.710
situations where we don't give them that option.

00:49:45.929 --> 00:49:50.230
And if you see a dog that's like always on top

00:49:50.230 --> 00:49:53.730
in the like overhead position of another dog.

00:49:54.329 --> 00:49:56.289
That needs to be like disconnected. You need

00:49:56.289 --> 00:49:57.809
to be taking the lead and kind of taking that

00:49:57.809 --> 00:49:59.550
space and pushing that dog off and being like,

00:49:59.630 --> 00:50:01.510
no, you need to back up. You need to give that

00:50:01.510 --> 00:50:04.630
dog space. Yeah. Because at some point the overcrowded

00:50:04.630 --> 00:50:07.489
dog is going to be one fearful at this point.

00:50:07.489 --> 00:50:10.889
Yeah. Or two, it's going to try to come back

00:50:10.889 --> 00:50:12.869
at it and it's going to turn into something negative

00:50:12.869 --> 00:50:15.510
for both dogs because that dog's going to snap.

00:50:15.789 --> 00:50:17.869
The other dog is either going to take that correction

00:50:17.869 --> 00:50:20.489
or it's going to come back with another correction

00:50:20.489 --> 00:50:25.940
and then you've got chaos. Yeah. I think that

00:50:25.940 --> 00:50:27.800
was it. Okay. I love that. I'm going to cut that

00:50:27.800 --> 00:50:32.159
one off real fast, but I think that was it. Okay.

00:50:33.000 --> 00:50:38.920
Let's get into our question and answers. So I'm

00:50:38.920 --> 00:50:46.400
going to unmute. I think I muted one here. Anybody

00:50:46.400 --> 00:50:51.500
who has a question, you can jump in at this point

00:50:51.500 --> 00:50:54.570
here while I play the. That's a little Jeopardy

00:50:54.570 --> 00:51:01.630
music. What do we got? You're good. Go ahead.

00:51:02.530 --> 00:51:05.309
You had started talking earlier about introducing

00:51:05.309 --> 00:51:09.570
dogs at a very young age to daily noises they

00:51:09.570 --> 00:51:14.409
may hear. Maverick is extremely reactive to the

00:51:14.409 --> 00:51:18.750
vacuum cleaner. That's crazy. I vacuumed in front

00:51:18.750 --> 00:51:20.409
of him like two days ago and he didn't make a

00:51:20.409 --> 00:51:22.860
peep. And that's always like one that I kind

00:51:22.860 --> 00:51:25.280
of look for, to be honest with you. Now he was

00:51:25.280 --> 00:51:27.599
in his kennel, so that may have made a difference.

00:51:28.099 --> 00:51:30.699
So I will ask, do you have him loose while the

00:51:30.699 --> 00:51:34.079
vacuum is going? Yes. Okay. So that may be something.

00:51:34.119 --> 00:51:36.239
It kicks a lot of dogs into prey drive, right?

00:51:36.340 --> 00:51:38.860
It's making a fun noise. It's like going back

00:51:38.860 --> 00:51:41.719
and forth. It somewhat kind of makes it a toy

00:51:41.719 --> 00:51:46.079
to a degree. So I will say that he was in a kennel,

00:51:46.179 --> 00:51:48.960
but he wasn't barking at her being like, I need

00:51:48.960 --> 00:51:51.030
to play with it. I need to play with it. Um,

00:51:51.210 --> 00:51:55.170
but we do have definitely solutions for, um,

00:51:55.289 --> 00:51:57.949
vacuums and a lot with our dogs because they're

00:51:57.949 --> 00:51:59.909
Belgian Malinois and they'll eat anything that

00:51:59.909 --> 00:52:03.309
makes noise. They hate what they love. It's not

00:52:03.309 --> 00:52:07.510
really hate. They love to hate the vacuum cleaner.

00:52:07.590 --> 00:52:10.130
Right. It's like the sprinklers. Right. They

00:52:10.130 --> 00:52:11.949
love the sprinklers. You shoot water right in

00:52:11.949 --> 00:52:16.210
my face. Love it. Yeah. Love it. So we work really.

00:52:16.760 --> 00:52:19.480
Well, our dogs work really well and we build

00:52:19.480 --> 00:52:23.059
that into the other dogs to work on a place bed

00:52:23.059 --> 00:52:25.739
while the vacuum is going on around the house.

00:52:26.260 --> 00:52:29.280
And we also switch between a manual vacuum and

00:52:29.280 --> 00:52:31.260
like the robot vacuums because those are common

00:52:31.260 --> 00:52:33.760
these days. And when dogs see a thing moving

00:52:33.760 --> 00:52:35.800
on its own, right, they're like, what is that?

00:52:36.440 --> 00:52:40.659
Right. And so. Place beds and place work and

00:52:40.659 --> 00:52:43.519
your dog staying on that place bed is always

00:52:43.519 --> 00:52:48.820
a really good exercise for them to work on while

00:52:48.820 --> 00:52:58.880
vacuums and things like that are going. Did that

00:52:58.880 --> 00:53:02.710
answer your question, Heidi? It did. Thank you.

00:53:02.789 --> 00:53:05.289
Awesome. We'll have to work with him. We haven't

00:53:05.289 --> 00:53:07.010
worked with him a whole lot on the place bid.

00:53:07.190 --> 00:53:09.530
Oh, well, he'll come back preloaded with place

00:53:09.530 --> 00:53:11.650
bid. Right. We're working on his place. Yeah,

00:53:11.750 --> 00:53:13.929
we're working on place. Right. And now we'll

00:53:13.929 --> 00:53:20.369
just incorporate some vacuum. Yeah. I'm having

00:53:20.369 --> 00:53:23.889
a, it's Cliff, I'm having a situation with Chenoa

00:53:23.889 --> 00:53:28.170
where she's, you'll call her and she doesn't

00:53:28.170 --> 00:53:30.239
want to listen. she's gotten to that point where

00:53:30.239 --> 00:53:33.019
she's getting stubborn or she'll go under the

00:53:33.019 --> 00:53:37.019
little chairs that are by the the um the bar

00:53:37.019 --> 00:53:39.619
and just lay lay underneath the barstools thinking

00:53:39.619 --> 00:53:42.199
that she's hiding from us and that she doesn't

00:53:42.199 --> 00:53:44.280
have to answer is that just that we just need

00:53:44.280 --> 00:53:47.780
to pull her back and just do some basic training

00:53:47.780 --> 00:53:50.659
to get that back because she just kind of looks

00:53:50.659 --> 00:53:53.659
at you like i'm not gonna listen to you right

00:53:53.659 --> 00:54:02.280
so what what i would worry about um is all dogs

00:54:02.280 --> 00:54:05.360
are going to test whether you are going to hold

00:54:05.360 --> 00:54:11.360
them accountable or not um and so if she starts

00:54:11.360 --> 00:54:16.500
doing it more often it's likely indicative of

00:54:16.500 --> 00:54:20.840
some interactions where she was able to avoid

00:54:20.840 --> 00:54:25.380
doing exactly what you said and she latched on

00:54:25.380 --> 00:54:29.360
to some of that and been like Cool. Yeah, this

00:54:29.360 --> 00:54:32.519
works for me. Yeah. She's like, I got away with

00:54:32.519 --> 00:54:35.519
it. I pulled the treats out to kind of coax her

00:54:35.519 --> 00:54:40.539
to go. Now you changed the game up, Cliff. Now

00:54:40.539 --> 00:54:43.960
you're in a hostage negotiation. Right. So think

00:54:43.960 --> 00:54:46.760
about it. Think about it. So if she figured out

00:54:46.760 --> 00:54:52.360
that if she doesn't come, that you pull the treats

00:54:52.360 --> 00:54:56.110
out, what would you do? Then you're just going

00:54:56.110 --> 00:54:59.710
to wait for the tree. Yeah. You got to hold up.

00:54:59.809 --> 00:55:02.929
I'm going to get extra under this couch until

00:55:02.929 --> 00:55:06.070
he, until he pulls those out. Get five more in

00:55:06.070 --> 00:55:08.309
your hand and then I'll come out. Right. Yep.

00:55:08.510 --> 00:55:12.610
So, uh, the way that we, the way we undo that

00:55:12.610 --> 00:55:18.630
before we reinforce more of that is we go back

00:55:18.630 --> 00:55:24.250
to that drag line and we try to elicit that behavior.

00:55:24.840 --> 00:55:30.739
So take the opportunity to get a drag line on

00:55:30.739 --> 00:55:35.559
and then call her. And when she scurries under

00:55:35.559 --> 00:55:39.280
whatever it was that she scurries under so that

00:55:39.280 --> 00:55:42.059
you will go get the treat bag, it doesn't come

00:55:42.059 --> 00:55:49.380
out. And then we go, no, come. And at that point,

00:55:49.400 --> 00:55:53.460
we're going to reinforce our no with. leash pressure

00:55:53.460 --> 00:55:56.480
because she knows leash pressure she understands

00:55:56.480 --> 00:55:59.920
leash pressure and she is she reacts to leash

00:55:59.920 --> 00:56:03.659
pressure because we we know that we know that

00:56:03.659 --> 00:56:05.900
she does that through all of the other training

00:56:05.900 --> 00:56:09.320
that she's been through well she we had the drag

00:56:09.320 --> 00:56:12.309
line on her the other day and i guess we We were

00:56:12.309 --> 00:56:15.650
busy and the drag line has been a victim of the

00:56:15.650 --> 00:56:18.789
mouth. Oh, no. Oh, no. She hated. The worst.

00:56:19.489 --> 00:56:21.550
There's a couple of dog leash companies that

00:56:21.550 --> 00:56:23.570
actually make lifetime warranties that I've.

00:56:24.219 --> 00:56:26.840
Um, tried a couple of times because they will

00:56:26.840 --> 00:56:29.219
replace the leash at no cost, no matter like

00:56:29.219 --> 00:56:31.860
if the dog choose it or not. So there's always

00:56:31.860 --> 00:56:34.460
those small metal ones that she can't just, you

00:56:34.460 --> 00:56:37.820
can also, yeah. Metal ones are also, um, an option

00:56:37.820 --> 00:56:40.679
that they make for, for dogs that just are insistent

00:56:40.679 --> 00:56:44.079
on biting a leash. Um, but also I want to add

00:56:44.079 --> 00:56:47.679
in that when she does finally come, whether it's

00:56:47.679 --> 00:56:50.719
leash pressure or not. Always reward that. Be

00:56:50.719 --> 00:56:53.360
like, good job. Be excited that she still came

00:56:53.360 --> 00:56:55.659
back because if she gets a punishment or gets

00:56:55.659 --> 00:56:59.500
scolded once she finally is like, okay, I'm coming,

00:56:59.599 --> 00:57:03.099
she is going to be reluctant to keep doing that.

00:57:03.639 --> 00:57:07.940
You got to throw a party like a legit party.

00:57:08.179 --> 00:57:10.920
Even if you're mad. Even if you're mad. You got

00:57:10.920 --> 00:57:14.119
to throw a party. Alex, go ahead. Yeah, I try

00:57:14.119 --> 00:57:17.460
to do the happy dance and even if I'm mad, do

00:57:17.460 --> 00:57:20.550
the happy dance. Good. listen to me and and the

00:57:20.550 --> 00:57:22.989
sometimes i'll go towards get her and then she'll

00:57:22.989 --> 00:57:25.210
like oh she sees i'm coming and she's like she's

00:57:25.210 --> 00:57:27.789
out of there and go into her neck hiding spot

00:57:27.789 --> 00:57:32.570
well now that and then that behavior i'm sorry

00:57:32.570 --> 00:57:35.449
go ahead jen is it last two days she's been really

00:57:35.449 --> 00:57:38.670
really good okay he is completely terrified of

00:57:38.670 --> 00:57:42.539
our pumpkins because he likes to tap them. Halloween,

00:57:42.880 --> 00:57:46.380
man. Halloween is terrible for dogs. Right, Halloween

00:57:46.380 --> 00:57:49.280
is a rough one. Fourth of July, Halloween, Christmas.

00:57:49.440 --> 00:57:53.119
But today, the last two days, she has gotten

00:57:53.119 --> 00:57:55.840
into this thing where she likes to come and just

00:57:55.840 --> 00:58:01.420
sit with me in my chair and she will bring her

00:58:01.420 --> 00:58:06.880
bowl to me when she's done eating. So she'll

00:58:06.880 --> 00:58:10.000
pick it up and bring it to me. She does have

00:58:10.000 --> 00:58:12.039
some failures in times of bringing it to me,

00:58:12.119 --> 00:58:15.039
but I make her work at it until she does bring

00:58:15.039 --> 00:58:18.039
it. That's awesome. I'm sorry. I didn't mean

00:58:18.039 --> 00:58:19.440
to interrupt. You were going to say in regards

00:58:19.440 --> 00:58:22.340
to her taking off. In regards to her taking off,

00:58:22.420 --> 00:58:26.059
that sounds, just at the surface, sounds like

00:58:26.059 --> 00:58:29.900
a game in and of itself. So she may be trying

00:58:29.900 --> 00:58:32.039
to engage you. She's looking for your attention.

00:58:32.219 --> 00:58:35.119
She's looking to engage in some sort of game.

00:58:35.380 --> 00:58:40.079
So when that happens, What I would do is I would

00:58:40.079 --> 00:58:42.320
engage her in a different game, but on your terms.

00:58:42.940 --> 00:58:45.780
Okay. I got you. Because she's obviously looking

00:58:45.780 --> 00:58:50.880
for engagement from you. So give her what she

00:58:50.880 --> 00:58:55.940
wants, but on your terms where you initiate a

00:58:55.940 --> 00:58:58.699
different game. Yeah. So that it's not related

00:58:58.699 --> 00:59:03.739
to her trying to initiate. Okay. I got you. Also

00:59:03.739 --> 00:59:05.500
with the pumpkin thing, just put her bowl of

00:59:05.500 --> 00:59:07.420
food right next to the pumpkin. I guarantee you

00:59:07.420 --> 00:59:09.260
she's not going to turn down that food and she's

00:59:09.260 --> 00:59:11.159
not going to care whether that pumpkin's there

00:59:11.159 --> 00:59:15.019
or not. That's my like, that's my no fail like

00:59:15.019 --> 00:59:18.159
counter conditioning for dogs is like stack food

00:59:18.159 --> 00:59:21.579
around it. Just put treats around it and the

00:59:21.579 --> 00:59:23.300
dog's going to be like, I'm going to even, even

00:59:23.300 --> 00:59:25.679
if they stretch towards it, they're going to

00:59:25.679 --> 00:59:27.760
want to get that food as long as it's not like

00:59:27.760 --> 00:59:30.440
too close, right? So just work your way towards

00:59:30.440 --> 00:59:33.239
it and she'll. eat out of that bowl i guarantee

00:59:33.239 --> 00:59:36.719
you if you offer it next to a pumpkin yeah that's

00:59:36.719 --> 00:59:38.840
true well i've i was taking her out yesterday

00:59:38.840 --> 00:59:43.219
yesterday um night and she waited by the usually

00:59:43.219 --> 00:59:46.059
she'll you know i have to say stop let me go

00:59:46.059 --> 00:59:49.559
out first and like we talked about and And, you

00:59:49.559 --> 00:59:52.239
know, she'll do that. Sometimes I forget and

00:59:52.239 --> 00:59:53.800
we're just both out the door and we're like,

00:59:53.940 --> 00:59:56.260
it's a free -for -all. But I have to remember

00:59:56.260 --> 01:00:00.380
my own training usually is a problem. But she

01:00:00.380 --> 01:00:02.059
stopped and she wasn't going to go out. And I'm

01:00:02.059 --> 01:00:04.239
like, I was so impressed with her. We got outside,

01:00:04.340 --> 01:00:07.219
we were walking, and I didn't realize then we

01:00:07.219 --> 01:00:10.039
were coming back. Right, she stopped again. And

01:00:10.039 --> 01:00:12.599
then the pumpkins were right there. They're huge

01:00:12.599 --> 01:00:15.719
pumpkins. Right, she's like, oh my goodness.

01:00:16.300 --> 01:00:18.179
They're the kind you tap and then they start

01:00:18.179 --> 01:00:24.739
doing the Halloween noise. I usually just tap

01:00:24.739 --> 01:00:27.159
them. It's something I've done every year since

01:00:27.159 --> 01:00:29.519
we've had them. She bolted for the door like

01:00:29.519 --> 01:00:33.019
nothing. Then I realized she wasn't really being

01:00:33.019 --> 01:00:35.300
obedient going out the door. She just didn't

01:00:35.300 --> 01:00:39.559
want to go past the pumpkin. Sometimes we can

01:00:39.559 --> 01:00:42.059
look past that because we just don't realize

01:00:42.059 --> 01:00:45.420
the variables. Yeah, I'll put some little treats

01:00:45.420 --> 01:00:47.239
there and try to coax you that they're okay.

01:00:47.400 --> 01:00:55.860
Yeah. Nice. Okay. I have lost my place here.

01:00:59.579 --> 01:01:03.639
We're going to finish this up with our listener

01:01:03.639 --> 01:01:06.460
projects. We've got two listener projects for

01:01:06.460 --> 01:01:10.320
you this week. The sound game. Number one, the

01:01:10.320 --> 01:01:15.539
sound game. Put your dog in a place or in a kennel

01:01:15.539 --> 01:01:19.400
or just in and around you in your home and play

01:01:19.400 --> 01:01:22.300
different household sounds such as the vacuum,

01:01:22.460 --> 01:01:27.460
the blender, hair dryer, doorbells, dogs barking,

01:01:27.760 --> 01:01:35.639
etc. And as you do that, just mark calm behavior.

01:01:35.800 --> 01:01:40.760
Mark it with yes. Good job. And. Give a reward.

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The reward can be food. The reward can be praise,

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affection, whatever your dog responds to. Slowly

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increase the volume over time while keeping the

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puppy relaxed. Or your dog. Doesn't matter. Puppy,

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older dog, same, same. Project number two. Controlled

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stranger greetings. This is super important.

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So recruit your most trusted calm friend. And

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have this calm friend ignore your puppy at first,

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letting the pup kind of like approach and like

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at its own pace, nice and slow. And then when

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your puppy shows calm curiosity, mark it with

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yes and then reward. And then end your interaction

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before the puppy becomes super overstimulated.

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Having a friend or a neighbor or somebody who

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can like work through that with you, but doesn't

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live very far away so they can do it like repeatedly

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or over several days. Super, super important.

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Works really, really well. All right. Well, with

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that, that is all we have for tonight. So we're

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going to start closing this out once again. Well,

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thank you for tuning in to Pawprint Academy tonight.

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Thanks for the questions, Cliff and Jen and Michael

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and Heidi. I appreciate you guys being here.

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And for anybody listening or tuning in to us

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any cool ideas for us to incorporate. Thanks

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again for tuning in. Have a great night. Good

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night. Good night.